cars

[feral reef]

Amsterdam is basically a different country

Don't look at people, if you do they get angry

[stoic ledge]

People claiming they've been to the Netherlands and only seeing Amsterdam

[feral reef]

or say hi

[stoic ledge]

Also people calling NL Holland 🤮

[woven leaf]

one wanders, do the dutch import soil to raise the land height when preparing a property for a house build

[feral reef]

Holland is the shit part

[feral reef]

what? hahah

[stoic ledge]

Heh no, GM is a master in destroying companies but they're still around, part of PSA -> Stellantis now

[feral reef]

We do not build hills just to put houses on them

[woven leaf]

like... is there a min sea level build rule or something .. since the sea level is rising all the time

[stoic ledge]

NL currently doesn't build houses at all

[feral reef]

We build dykes for that

[stoic ledge]

tOo mUcH nItRoGeN pOlUtIoN

[woven leaf]

I see

I guess most ppl build boat houses these days 😌

[stoic ledge]

Really depends on the engine... OPC is nice tho xD

[feral reef]

There is an OPC zafira? haha

[stoic ledge]

2

Zafira A and Zafira B had an OPC version

2.0 Turbo

[feral reef]

All those areas are surrounded by dykes

[stoic ledge]

Zafira B OPC had the 2.0 Turbo of the Astra H, 241hp

There has also been an OPC version of the Meriva A lol

[feral reef]

The second one had a "sport" button

[stoic ledge]

1.6 Turbo

180hp iirc

[feral reef]

So we had a Zafira A after that a B

The B was like a top spec

[stoic ledge]

Cosmo

[feral reef]

Yes

It has chrome trim on the windows and shit

[stoic ledge]

Oh yeah Cosmo's did have that

[feral reef]

it was black

So I actually looked it up recently

Lots of failed APKs 😂

Leaks and shit

As I said, shitbox

[stoic ledge]

Kek

Was it the 2.2?

If so, those weren't great

[feral reef]

Might have been

[woven leaf]

my 2019 S3 😌 I swear this thing does 0-100km in 4 seconds flat sometimes 😋 great car

[feral reef]

That's not a Zafira 🫵

[stoic ledge]

And sometimes it doesn't because it's an Audi and thus broken?

runs

[feral reef]

https://tenor.com/view/run-away-cute-baby-gif-15911985

[woven leaf]

well much prefer an audi than a bmw, way more reliable

performance difference is based on O2 in the air, temp, humidity, etc..

[feral reef]

hahahhahahha LIKE I SAID, SHITBOX

[stoic ledge]

1.6 was too small but reliable, 1.8 was acceptable in speed and quite reliable, 2.2 is quite a nice engine when it works but it can leak a bit... 2.0 Turbo (regular and OPC) is speed

[stoic ledge]

Still less fires than a Tesla 🙃

Improper repairs tho 🤔

[woven leaf]

what was repaired?

guessing fuel lines lol

[stoic ledge]

Apparently the resistor pack of the interior fan

Yes they can fail, and is quite cheap to replace, even with genuine parts.... but some probably swapped them with cheap eBay units which failed

[woven leaf]

hmm

[feral reef]

It was probably the 2.2

Don't remember the license plate so can't look it up

I also don't remember how I got the license plate when I looked it up recently

[woven leaf]

in other words, buy OEM if it is an engine part or an electrical item.
If it is cosmetic, feel free to buy from ebay/amazon

[stoic ledge]

Basically

[woven leaf]

or buy directly from bosch/denso for a nice discount

most parts are made by those ODM's...

[stoic ledge]

I imported a part for my parents Opel from the US as it was waaay cheaper as to buy it from here

[woven leaf]

oil filter from mayback $200, Mercedes $50, Bosch $15
same exact part, different P/N brand lol

[feral reef]

Did you try getting it from the dealer?

[stoic ledge]

Part is made in Germany, shipped to the US, I ordered it there, shipped to Europe, for 1/6th of the price it costs here

[stoic ledge]

Dealer, but also online

[feral reef]

Surprisingly dealer is often the cheapest place to get something

[stoic ledge]

Dealer was €240

I got it for €40

Including import fees, shipping fees and taxes

[feral reef]

ooof

wtf is the part

[stoic ledge]

EVAP purge valve

[woven leaf]

pfft dealers always add a 200% dealer tax

stealerships

[stoic ledge]

Well they didn't have it in stock so they also had to order it... wouldn't be surprised if, as they aren't part of GM anymore, GM charges ridiculous rates for the parts to get them

Ok no wait I also remembered a slightly different part number.... which was intended for the automatic version while we have the manual car

But I was like, it's a purge valve, it just opens and closes, why wouldn't it work? And in the US, the same purge valve was used in the same engine with a manual transmission

The slightly different part number in Europe was still like €120, so basically half the original valve

But then I got it for €40

Genuine GM ACDelco part with the Bosch valve

[woven leaf]

hmm

how can the auto have a different P/N to the manual, something isnt right there

its gotta be the same part ... surely

[stoic ledge]

Also stupid, I couldn't just buy the valve (which was just €25 even in Europe) but you couldn't seperate it from the hose as they used a heat shrink

[stoic ledge]

They're very slightly different, the automatic version is slightly thiccer, but the connections, mounting position, overall dimensions are indentical

Bosch valve number was also different

[woven leaf]

surprising, usually manufacturers prefer to create one part for multiple models to keep SKU costs down

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[stoic ledge]

Ever so slightly different

But I was like... it's a valve which opens when it has power, and closes when the valve is off

Why would it not work?

[woven leaf]

looks more like a revision change than a model difference

[stoic ledge]

I have the parts manual/numbers, it's listed as a different component, lemme check

[woven leaf]

sounds like EVAP is emissions related. maybe that is why the specs are strict

[stoic ledge]

Ah no it was for engines with Start/Stop and Engines without Start/Stop, that's the distinguishing thing

My bad

[woven leaf]

ah ok

[stoic ledge]

But I remembered the manual US cars having the same part as the European Start/Stop engine while the US cars didn't have Start/Stop

Idk looked it up months ago xD

Maybe a slightly larger EVAP "reserve" for the Start/Stop engine for when it needs it on start up?

Idk

I've fitted it in April and it hasn't shown the code since so it seems to work 😛

Also I'm not a mechanic, just tried to fix it for my parents without getting charged stupid fees for something this simple

[woven leaf]

"pfft" wouldnt they just use the larger EVAP part for both models to save SKU costs?

"pfft" lol

[stoic ledge]

I have no idea lol

[woven leaf]

yeah strange, could just be a revision change

[stoic ledge]

In the US they only used one valve, in Europe they made it different

[woven leaf]

maybe they made the larger one later on but they still had stock of the previous revision and had to get rid of them

[stoic ledge]

Could be that later models also got the valve we have now... when our car was made the Start/Stop version wasn't available yet iirc

[woven leaf]

yeah maybe just a rev change

non-start/stop and start/stop models probably use the same part now

[stoic ledge]

Yeah so the Start/Stop version was available from Jan-2012, ours was made in Oct-2011 and registered Dec-2011

So you're probably right

[woven leaf]

yeah perhaps

good reason why to buy from a dealer, you can almost guarantee the part is correct

even if it is 2x - 3x more expensive than ebay

[stoic ledge]

Dealer didn't tell me it was a revisioned part xD

And they could still order they old part

But thanks to the parts catalogue I did find the other one, and ordered by that exact partsnumber from an GM Parts retailer

[woven leaf]

the new P/N should substitute the original P/N which is probably out of stock

helps to have the correct parts catalogue for your exact car 😌

[stoic ledge]

Idk usually the parts catalogue shows revisions if there is one

Atleast I've seen it a few times

But maybe they updated it wrong here?

I'm already glad it's a free version which has literally everything xD

[woven leaf]

errors can happen

[stoic ledge]

Exactly

[woven leaf]

ODM's can often miss drawings of various items in the Parts Diagram

Especially when a product is half done, the parts catalog is half done, a month later the guy forgets to update it...

Service providers download these documents and try to find parts that are missing in the diagram

Part numbers have no description, part locations are missing or incorrect

All you can do really is to report the issue to the ODM and ask that they fix it

They fix it and it's all good ... until the next model lol (rinse and repeat)

[stoic ledge]

I have no idea where I can report it Or maybe they did keep using the old part for the slim amount of non-S/S they probably made until it was discontinued, and you could only get the S/S-version

And it's basically a Rolls-Royce so a €40 part to fix it is a win 😛

[woven leaf]

Well service centres would report those kind of things

but if it all works now, it's all good 🙂

[plucky flame]

Wheres the popout umbrella

And the lambswool floormats

[stoic ledge]

Previous owner kept them, we're stuck with velour floormats 🥲

[plucky flame]

Damn.

You can always buy new ones

https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/en_US/boutique/all-accessories/lambswool-floormats.html

You can get the umbrellas too

[stoic ledge]

Price on request

[plucky flame]

For the poor people in the room that means theyre expensive

I found some other ones online for like four fitty

[stoic ledge]

https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/en_US/boutique/all-accessories/metal-fuel-filler-cap.html

I also need this Metal Fuel Filler cap, previous owner replaced ours with a plastic GM part

[plucky flame]

The heresy

[stoic ledge]

https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/en_US/boutique/all-accessories/fire-extinguisher.html

Even the fire extinguisher is Price on request

[woven leaf]

umm why rolls royce? same part as GM?

I assume you are pretending your GM uses rolls royce parts 😏

[stoic ledge]

(it's a joke, because the car has the Meriva uses the same style backwards opening door (can't use the term or the bot will mute me) as a Rolls Royce)

[stoic ledge]

See picture

[woven leaf]

ahhh .. ok the sui___ doors

Got-ya

the MX-8 Mazda also has those

I dont know why they are called sui___ doors ... silly to name them that way IMO

[feral reef]

[feral reef]

RX-8 you mean?

[woven leaf]

should call them drunken exit doors instead lol

[woven leaf]

sry yeah RX-8

[feral reef]

You can get lambo doors for an RX-8 👀

[woven leaf]

umm lambo doors go upwards

RX-8 doors hinge in reverse

[feral reef]

Yeah and I said you can get them

[woven leaf]

oh... yeah u can get kits for various models

[feral reef]

Yeah but it's apparently quite common for the RX-8

[stoic ledge]

As back in the day, the wind could catch underneath the latch, blowing the door open and sucking you out -> dead

I think it was something like that

[woven leaf]

lolol ... omg I was considering getting lambo doors for my Civic 😹

[feral reef]

Lambo doors would make getting into my car easier, haha

[stoic ledge]

Also, different from the RX-8: the rear door can open without the front doors being open 😎

[woven leaf]

ah ok I see

makes sense

[feral reef]

if you google "RX8 doors". half of them have lambo doors

Okay same if I google my car, haha

[woven leaf]

google searches ... 2019 audi A3 lambo doors

😳

[stoic ledge]

I've seen Corsa's with Lambo doors It's hideous

[feral reef]

Convenient though

[woven leaf]

👀 dont tempt me

couldnt find ones for my specific model so all good for now lol

[stoic ledge]

Get a 1007 If you want convenience

[woven leaf]

I feel like you would need to WD40 spray that door rail once a week lol

[stoic ledge]

They aren't problem free, that's for sure

[woven leaf]

I can imagine

[stoic ledge]

They expected to sell ~175k/year... Iirc they made 125k in 4 years

[woven leaf]

just have a can of WD40 rigged to the hinge, every time it opened, it would spray a splash of WD40 lol

auto-lube 😎

[stoic ledge]

Kek yes

It's a Pininfarina design tho

Toyota had a similar car, the Spade

Although on the other side it had just regular doors lol

[woven leaf]

ah I see

[bitter compass]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[stoic ledge]

Ford has a minivan with sliding rear doors without a B-pillar

Ngl, minivans had some quite cool and innovating concepts

[bitter compass]

This looks stupid and is tiny, i love it

[stoic ledge]

Same

Such a shame we don't get those quirky Japanese cars

[bitter compass]

Best they can do is aygo for Europe

[woven leaf]

kids will squeeze through 25cm of space between seats/pillars, they really don't care about 1 meter of exit clearance lol

[stoic ledge]

Aygo isn't really that Japanese tho, developed in Europe, made in CZ, developed for the European market, based on a shortend Yaris platform...

[woven leaf]

they will find a wat to escape lol

[stoic ledge]

If other people then kids want to get in, a bit of space is nice

[woven leaf]

true

[bitter compass]

Child seats

Old people

[woven leaf]

adult child seats

[bitter compass]

Prefer wide openings over kids

[woven leaf]

fat-bastard-friendly

(I joke - austin powers style)

[stoic ledge]

Ngl the rear opening doors on the Meriva are very practical to get my grandparents in the car

[woven leaf]

'practical'

[bitter compass]

Just stick them on the roof

[woven leaf]

with 3M double sided tape

[bitter compass]

Meriva aint unpractical

[woven leaf]

indeed

[bitter compass]

Its just stupid

[woven leaf]

k fair enuf

[stoic ledge]

Heh you're just jealous of the mighty Meriva while you're stuck with an up!

[bitter compass]

Im also stick with a meriva

[woven leaf]

seeing that emoji, I wander what fish would be able to fit into that mouth

a Tuna may fit

[stoic ledge]

Yeah but the old one, the B is waaaaay better

[bitter compass]

And in every way i prefer my up because its tiny and stupid and one of the last good VW's

[bitter compass]

Except the rust its getting from being bullied through alpine winters

[wispy cloak]

Did they make a b5 passat with a 1.9tdi?

[stoic ledge]

Yeah, multiple

I think 3 or 4 different power levels

Regular TDI, red T DI, red TD I, red TDI

[bitter compass]

Which facelift of the b5 lul

[woven leaf]

low engine capacity VW engine cars seem decent. A 4cyl VW/Audi = not a bad purchase, unless it's ,an Audi 4cyl that has super-thin piston rings that drink 1 litre of oil every 3 days

...aka an Audi A4 or A5 2011

[stoic ledge]

Meh 1.2 / 1.4 chain driven TSI were horrible also

[woven leaf]

hmm

[wispy cloak]

Somebody should trade me a 1.9tdi passat or a 1.8t a4 for my 2.8 a4

[bitter compass]

Confused 1 liter noises

[stoic ledge]

The 1.0 MPI is fine

As it's an MPI, no direct injection

[wispy cloak]

I should put coilovers on my a4 so that I can dump it on some kid for $4000

[bitter compass]

Transmission they put together with that is bad

Also stupid thing about the b5 passat

Vr5

[wispy cloak]

I don't even understand why my a4 is rated so poorly for reliability

[bitter compass]

Ridiculous thing

[woven leaf]

I owned an Audi A5 (2011) and it would literally drink 1 litre of oil every days. The piston rings were designed too thin and would wear out. I was spending $18 a day to replenish the engine oil. This issue as fixed in 2012 models up

[bitter compass]

A4 depend really hard on what engine it is

[woven leaf]

Moral of the story, every manufacturer had its bad models....

[bitter compass]

But there are pretty much 2 options for old ones: maintenance nightmare or it doesn't doe ever

[woven leaf]

some more than others (Cough BMW) .. I will never own a BMW ... omg.....

A big engine BMW is a super wallet swamp

[wispy cloak]

I have a '97 with the sohc 2.8

Just did the timing belt

[timber oar]

Audi and vw are grouped in there with BMW for me lol

[wispy cloak]

114k miles

[woven leaf]

duude..my parents have owned BMW's .. VW/Audi are a godsend compared to BMW

[timber oar]

Oh I'm sure

I still don't have much use for them though

Not after working on a vw

[woven leaf]

yeah I get it, VW is no Toyota, but I would prefer an VW or Audi over a BMW any day

[bitter compass]

Honestly all 3 VW's i drive/drove absolute dreams in maintenance

[bitter compass]

Oh working on one is yeah... Pain

[wispy cloak]

In my opinion mercedes is like gm, vag is like ford, and bmw is like mopar

The bmw comparison is definitely there because it has a cult like following even for cars that are complete piles of garbage

[woven leaf]

hmm

[timber oar]

All the plastic shit is a good place to start

Who has a plastic oil dipstick tube??

[wispy cloak]

Vag is like ford because they have a gazillion brands and have some really really good cars and really really bad cars

Then mercedes is like gm where they don't really make much that's horrendously shit but they still produce some garbage

[woven leaf]

There is a reason the "Car Wizard" on youtube sends all BMW's to a poor BMW expert

[bitter compass]

I honestly don't know what to think about merc

[wispy cloak]

I own an audi and that's enough for me

[bitter compass]

Like unimog

[woven leaf]

hmmmm

[wispy cloak]

After this I'm staying away from German cars unless I have money

[bitter compass]

But also their cars are weird

[timber oar]

And you see i kinda wanted like an old early 2000s audi 1.8 convertible

[bitter compass]

But i like unimog

[timber oar]

But the jetta my friend has is the same generation

And it all makes me want to vomit

[wispy cloak]

I buy mostly domestic stuff

Because parts are readily available and cheap

[bitter compass]

I wonder sometimes why so many people in the us hate on the jetta which is just a weird golf and europe is like yeah.. golf

[timber oar]

Well what classified as domestic for you

[civic spoke]

Poor car.

[wispy cloak]

American

Also they tend to be easier to work on

[woven leaf]

My thinking:
VW/Audi are like the toyota of europe, but not quite as reliable.
BMW are just trash, cheap engineering, expensive parts, difficult to service ... avoid at all costs. Especially with big engine models V8+.
Mercedes, ... stick with the smaller engines for reliability. Avoid V8's and larger.... but generally more reliable than BMW power trains.

[wispy cloak]

The alternator on the audi was a front end off job

[timber oar]

Its not the jetta itself i dislike, its the way they put it together and the components they use

[bitter compass]

Oh i heard build quality in the us sucks but components?

[timber oar]

Components is a more general term here

But all the plastic shit like i said

Oil dipstick tube

Major parts of the cooling system

I don't remember what the parts were called

Fucking plastic sway bar links

[wispy cloak]

Wtf

How

[timber oar]

The stuff in the engine bay got brittle af

[wispy cloak]

At that point just don't have a sway bar

[woven leaf]

omg...plastic fantastic

[wispy cloak]

I'm fine with a plastic interior

[woven leaf]

if a sway bar is plastic .... it better be fricken premium plastic lol

[wispy cloak]

But plastic mechanical stuff

Aren't there bmws with plastic charge pipes?

[timber oar]

The electrical connectors on everything are annoying when they are from 2003 and just got brittle and broke in the engine bay

[wispy cloak]

Electronics

[timber oar]

The oil dipstick tube just snapped from the slightest pressure

[wispy cloak]

No

Don't remind me of those

[woven leaf]

yeah lots of BMW parts are now plastic fantastic

unfortunately cars today are designed to last their warranty ...

[timber oar]

Yeah sure let's put plastic, something sensitive to heat, right next to a giant chunk of metal that gets really hot

[woven leaf]

luckily they cannot use the same tactic on battery electric cars

[timber oar]

Great fuckin plan

[woven leaf]

yeah some ABS plastic pipe next to the exhaust 😳

[wispy cloak]

🙈

It only took a few thousand dollars in ford specific tools to see one code

[woven leaf]

I'm gonna buy an electric car next time, and avoid all this mechanical plastic BS lol

[wispy cloak]

But then you have to deal with possible battery degradation

Or recalls

Like the volt had for example

[timber oar]

Just buy old shit

[woven leaf]

Either lease the battery, or choose an EV that gives you a 10 year battery warranty

[timber oar]

Sure you might have to rebuild an engine here and there or replace a few vital suspension components

But you can't go wrong with an old toyota

Or maybe and old Chevy or Ford

[woven leaf]

for an ICE vehicle, a 2000's Toyota or Honda is your best buy.

2000-2022

[timber oar]

80s is where it's at

Imo

[woven leaf]

pffttttt .... 40 year old car? hmm

[timber oar]

I literally daily a first gen 4runner

87

[woven leaf]

most reliable ICE is probably a 2025 Camry

yeah 80's/90's toyota's and honda's are still going

cheap to maintain

[timber oar]

It just crossed 288k last week

[woven leaf]

nice

[timber oar]

Engine could use a rebuild, its not super happy

But still works and has good oil pressure for now

[woven leaf]

my 93 Honda Civic Si .. after 250 kilometres (155 miles) ... no major issues. I just needed a new distributor and spark plugs 😋

... If you want a reliable 4 banger ... just get a Toyota or Honda

[timber oar]

Thats that good shit from Japan that i like

[woven leaf]

indeed

[wispy cloak]

I was dailying a '00 dakota

Now I daily a '04 f350

And the audi is a '97

[stoic ledge]

Damn 250km / 155miles, did it almost survive half a tank?

[stoic ledge]

Jetta is also made to an ever lower standard than the European cars... Made in Mexico, the quality is worse. The Jetta also did bad in Europe because of that reason. The Tiguan Allspace is also made in Mexico (regular Tiguan for the US) and it's less compared to our regular Tiguan

[fathom socket]

random thought

if I would have choose between CD player and Cassette player in my car, I would rather now have Cassette player

[civic spoke]

Because you can throw in AUX tapes?

[fathom socket]

yeah

some older CD player cars don't come with AUX ports

[civic spoke]

Like mine

[fathom socket]

and The new DAF trucks had CD radios from 2001 with no aux ports

had to take out of my car

[fathom socket]

hecc, I can even make it BT

[civic spoke]

I want to throw BT in my car

[fathom socket]

I'm using Aliexpress/Alibaba special

gonna build my own infotaiment system

the aftermarket android systems are just so shit for the price

[civic spoke]

I'm thinking about getting a Bluebus

[fathom socket]

freaking 400 euros and I'm getting sub par 600p screen with 3 GB of ram

and a cpu from 2017

[civic spoke]

I rather just have the stock look

[fathom socket]

I want to free up the clutter

have everything built in and start with my car rather than setting everything up every time I want to drive

using phone for satnav isn't the best idea, since it loves to screw everything and crash when someone call me

[wispy cloak]

I feel like you're one of the only people that I can find that agrees with me

I hate the look of most aftermarket head units

[fathom socket]

most of them just look crap

[wraith rivet]

there’s screws missing 🙃

damn dealership probably

[wispy cloak]

You got any car above that plastic?

[stoic ledge]

Same

[wraith rivet]

A lil bit 😛

[charred depot]

need a supercharged previa

[misty mantle]

Aren't those mid-engine?

[stoic ledge]

Yes

Also RWD (or AWD)

And was available with a supercharger

A real supercharger, not those Tesla things

[civic girder]

yes

[misty mantle]

Yes, I know what a roots style belt-driven supercharger is

I'm not one of those people that like electric vehicles

[wraith rivet]

my first oil change (that I did)

[brittle totem]

Same as the mazda mx 30 for some reason.

[brittle totem]

Reminds me of the new xpeng p7

[wispy cloak]

i wish that all filters could be that conveniently located 🥲

[wraith rivet]

yeah it was very easy

[fathom socket]

gawd thats ugly 💀

[fathom socket]

supercar?

[civic girder]

Effectively

[brittle totem]

Yeah its a Chinese car...

[covert lagoon]

I’m trying to hunt down an example of this fucking relic.

[wispy cloak]

what is that

[misty mantle]

Looks like a Hot Wheels fucked a Corvette and this was the result

[wispy cloak]

I looked it up and it's a Cimbria SS

It's a kit car

[misty mantle]

That explains it

[wispy cloak]

It had a 455 olds in it

there was also a v6 offered at some point

It used the engine and transaxle from a toronado

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2275541099266854/

kind of seems like they just put whatever engine that they felt like into it

[fathom socket]

✅ 90s
✅ JDM
✅ RWD
✅ Mid-Engine
✅ Supercharged
✅ Brown
✅ Manual
✅ Wagon
✅ Used
✅ Slow car fast

It just checks all the boxes

Also Toyota reliability so it even has Scotty Kilmer's blessing

[civic girder]

idk about the slow car fast part

the US models have solid rear axle so the handling is meh

While Japan got IRS, it doesn't really solve the inherent problems with the design

They sit very tall and feel top heavy.

[sinful creek]

"✅ Brown"

[timber oar]

Ahhh Toyota

[stoic ledge]

Is it JDM if it's not JDM-only? 🙃

Also, "wagon" 😛

[fathom socket]

@civic spoke so I drove a brand new man few days ago

and it doesn't do that shit when you touch the throttle it goes full throttle for a split second

[civic spoke]

Volvo only has trouble with pedal to the metal.

Then it can't ever decide if it wants to hold the gear, shift up or shift down.

[fathom socket]

never had trouble with that

but the old man had that problem

and DAFs I drove

I could floor it on the hill and it would still go on 12th gear till it stalls

[civic spoke]

What it does is that it changes up and down a whole bunch, without being able to decide what to do.

@fathom socket The law says that you can drive 4:30 right? Then damn it. I'm using all of that time.

[fathom socket]

I had that issue more with DAF than Volvo

and MAN too

[civic spoke]

In other words. All of them?

[fathom socket]

but volvo didn't gave me these issues

the dafs were set on Super eco mode tho

[civic spoke]

For me it only happens with the foot to the floor, and trying to accelerate.

[fathom socket]

the one i had for one week didn't have that issue

but it was for local roads only

[civic spoke]

One thing about this drive that I don't like is that finding a place to park for half an hour sucks.

[fathom socket]

now I'll be driving Iveco Stralis

[civic spoke]

Even more so when I know that I'm going to be using most of my driving hours today...

I don't think that I have driven any Ivecos.

[fathom socket]

I remember 1 hour wasn't enough to find a parking space in germany

but I always ended up looking for a parking space at 1 am

[fathom socket]

I drove a shitbox eurocargo from 10000 years ago

gearbox was like stirring bunch of bullcrap and 0 feel

could not find 3rd/7th and 4th/8th gears

[vocal mural]

Can’t you change that setting yourself?

[fathom socket]

nope

would need go to the dealer I guess

[vocal mural]

Sometimes you need much power, like going up a steep hill, or on slippery roads

[fathom socket]

you just stall on the hill and then go on crawling mode

because the dumb truck will put 3rd gear and stall

and you can't change them manually because everything is locked up

[civic spoke]

Threw in some blankets over the bed.

Helps to keep it clean, and makes it a bit more cozy.

[civic spoke]

And things don't slide around as easy.

[fathom socket]

don't you have a net there?

[civic spoke]

Negative

This is pure base spec

[fathom socket]

the eurocargo I drove had a net for stuff on the bed

[blazing cave]

cars

[fathom socket]

Trucks

[tropic mulch]

The new Gymkhana just came out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXzPkkQirnM

[tired sundial]

Yea I watched i would sh!+ myself doing that bridge jump

[civic spoke]

Other FE's that I have driven would have a small netted pocket in the back. But nothing over the bed.

[fathom socket]

the net was on the bed

[civic spoke]

Never had a truck with that.

Probably more of a thing with tractor units.

[charred depot]

Someone I know of had their E46 318i stolen, how desperate

makes me worry for the 305

My new insurance should have an agreed value which would be enough money to restore the parts car should someone stoop so low to steal a 305

as much as I despise insurance companies

[wise wigeon]

Found the pink lambo

[fathom socket]

looks way too good for a pink lambo

[timber oar]

Lmao

[strong plume]

way too clean to be the pink lambo, real one got "decorated" at ltx and then crushed

[night current]

That threat of no grandchildren lmfao

[timber oar]

ROFL

8cyl is pretty reasonable imo xD

[civic spoke]

Australia has weird rules for cars.

[timber oar]

wdym

i mean it is australia so dont even get me started tbh 😂

i didnt know there were rules around engine cylinders though

[civic spoke]

If you are a provisional licence holder, then you are limited to cars with a power of 130 kW per tonne.

Meaning that you can't drive a 1,500 kg car with more than 260 hp. More or less.

[timber oar]

well

if that applies to bikes

ive already blown way past that lmao

my firebird is going to have more than that

ls power hehehe

but thats honestly what i mean, australia out here trippin

[civic spoke]

We have special rules for bike license as well. Have different levels of them.

[charred depot]

how does that impact mortified cars

[timber oar]

yeahhhhh no

see the normal car license here is basically

everything up to literally a bus

and the bike license is just whether its 2 or 3 wheel

honestly if it were any different it would be pretty horse shit

dealing with the DMV as much as i have is already too much

[charred depot]

lol dmv

The joy of just doing everything online

my friend owns like atleast 50 different cars a year if he lived in murica would he have to visit the DMV for each one.

[timber oar]

oh yeah

its great 🙃

[wispy cloak]

That's dumb

[timber oar]

Hell of it is i probably would anyways lmao

[sturdy patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/audi-pe-balans-gif-20925050

Have a look at my car:

[copper oyster]

Can you just make up a VIN number in a way that it's reasonably difficult to go out of your way and confirm it?

Like dealer or something. If you make up a VIN number that makes sense for year, make, color, whatever else it is that's obvious to the DMV and such, can you actually do it? I'm assuming insider dealer or better yet manufacturer could have a series of VINs that ends production at a certain number. I'm remembering a year portion somebody pointed out to me

Is there like a make/exact unique sku-like retail-level/color portion which I'm assuming about and is the rest of the VIN determined by something along those lines with a remainder being just serial? If so, you should know a a VIN is unique if you know the last serial the same car contains.

Then how hard is it to change the VIN on the actual car? Isn't it tedious as hell?

[wraith rivet]

🤨

[wispy cloak]

No

It's impossible to change a vin

It's stamped into many locations on a vehicle

Including being programmed into the pcm

Vins have a checksum so that they cannot be created

Also with the amount of vin lookups it'd get found out immediately

Not to mention that you'd have to forge a title

Which is incredibly illegal

Along with the rest of it

[copper oyster]

Yeah that's why I was wondering about it. So basically San Andreas spray shop in real life has to be professional auto body shop and you have to etch out and replace more serials than a gun. Then, on top of that, there's no way to get a legit looking VIN in of itself.

So when a car is stolen, it stays stolen. But then again, your inspection usually has the guy check VIN. Or sometimes he asks as well. Then DMV takes paper's word for it. You need to create a history for it as well, true. That's basically the same step as making a new VIN I guess.

At this point it might be easier to fake your identity as owner lol

You also get title to house in addition to car

[sinful creek]

What?

[copper oyster]

It's impossible to make a stolen car legit

[sinful creek]

Essentially yeah, unless you find the original owner. Going through the process of forging a VIN and title is just so much work it’s almost not worth it. There’s some people who restore ancient cars but didn’t have a vin/title so it can never be road legal

[fathom socket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiIaSSwYcp0

[fathom socket]

https://tenor.com/view/cylon-by-your-command-robot-gif-17178504

[timber oar]

Well at least you can go through a process here to make a no title vehicle titled again

But it's basically a bonded title for like 5 years and the owner of the actual title can come forward and claim the vehicle if they want it

[sinful creek]

True, most cases it’s rare but can really bite you in the ass

[wispy cloak]

Well yes and no

It can be done but it isn't worth it

You can swap vin plates under the windshield but it's incredibly illegal

I know guys that have done it on cars with lost titles before

[wispy cloak]

My ford was F.O.R.D

I think my ipr valve went out

Either that or a fuel pump

[fathom socket]

The brakes on my peugeot 307 are so weak

Idk why.
Pads are still OK, rotors are in oj shape and it's still in spec

Yet after anjusting my handbrake it rolls down hill at max tension

[tired sundial]

So depending on what way you park it put it in revers or 1st so the transmission catches it

[fathom socket]

The problem is less about parking, and more about going up hill from stand still

[civic spoke]

My handbrake is also potato quality.

I had a bunch of issues with the truck today. But intermittent ones.

When all of the warning lights go out, ABS and all of that. When it's 'normal'.

Then the transmission flips out, and won't change gears as it should.

Coming from a stop, then it will stay in 3rd gear, and rev the snot out of the engine.

It will sometimes even change down to a lower gear, again, rev the snot out of the engine...

[wispy cloak]

Who made your trans?

Dodge?

[civic spoke]

When I say truck, I mean an HGV, or whatever you want to call it.

It's a Volvo FE320. 2016 year model.

[misty mantle]

rip

Thats just a 6.0 for you

[wispy cloak]

Heui moment

[misty mantle]

Correction, that just any Ford Diesel for you

[wispy cloak]

They stopped using heui after the 6.0 I think

[misty mantle]

the 7.3 had the Heui system

[wispy cloak]

The 7.3 was before the 6.0

[misty mantle]

Fair point

[wispy cloak]

And technically speaking

They aren't ford engines

They're navistar

[misty mantle]

Yeah

The Heui system was only used in the 7.3 and 6.0

https://www.motortrend.com/features/1304dp-heui-how-high-pressure-oil-injection-systems-work/

[vocal mural]

Bye Renault Twingo 😈

[misty mantle]

tf happened?

@vocal mural

[vocal mural]

Unknown reason

The driver is taken to hospital after inhaling smoke

[misty mantle]

Either way, its done

[wispy cloak]

Then they went to the 6.4

Which is what killed the ford navistar partnership

[fathom socket]

French

this happened I guess

[charred depot]

bloodeh punto

[safe bear]

ford = fix or repair daily

exposed

[wraith rivet]

found on road dead

[civic spoke]

I'm reminded of an accident that happened with a Focus, I think it was. Maybe in the Netherlands?

They cut through traffic to get to the exit. But uhh, the exit was jammed.

So they got stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Squished between two semi's. Luckily they made it through alive.

It was Belgium. And I'm only sharing this because they person survived. No matter what it looks like. ||https://youtu.be/CKNQG6pSYig||

Remember. Only ever do a single lane change at a time. And make sure that it's clear to do so.

[left merlin]

bro somehow survived 💀

[fathom socket]

honestly I feel like this backronim fits more to my Peugeot than Ford

as in everyday something breaks

[eager grove]

Ok so I'm looking at old golfs

[civic spoke]

It's a non-alcoholic beverage.

[eager grove]

and a lot of them have 'rear suspension arm corroded' or similar in the MoTs

how bad is that? Is it expensive to fix?

[civic spoke]

It depends. Labor is the bigger cost, since they will likely want to do an alignment after you swapped it out as well.

[eager grove]

I'll try and avoid any Golfs with that issue

Another one here that says the 'offisdie front outer drive shaft joint constant velocity boot is severely deteriorated' -- garage claims they've inspected it and can't see anything, but it doesn't look like they've got a receipt for it being fixed

[civic spoke]

That's the part that's rusted.

[eager grove]

Right

probably not that expensive a part

and not that difficult to fix

but might be expensive because they'll want to do a full alignment after, so a lot of labour

[eager grove]

this, by the way, is the most specific thing I've ever seen described!

nine word descriptor

[charred depot]

alot of testers advise for corrosion on suspension parts many years before it will be anything to speak of

[fathom socket]

Welp

Looks like glue turned in to dust

[stoic ledge]

Oof

[fathom socket]

Niw I need to remove it

And I'll wrap it in some black vinil

It ate the thing when I wanted to close it

Or I'll just put some loosely for now

Since I need like 3 days to do this

And good weather

[stoic ledge]

If you don't care about the looks... staple it back?

[fathom socket]

I only have one piece

the others are gone

also the freaking glue is flaking

[civic spoke]

The One Piece is real!

I want to replace the broken handle on the tool box for the truck...

[patent basalt]

It be brake day for the 275k mile denali

[vocal mural]

Let’s try this out on my moped

[misty mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[wispy cloak]

About $500 per upper control arm on the dakota

With labor

Plus alignment

Just for a comparison

Oh you're in Europe

[hidden flower]

ayo i got a question what do you guys think about a e36 328i automatic with 200k miles that runs and drives no major mechanical issues, good body for 2k usd?

[wispy cloak]

Ehhhhhhh

Not a bad price but I'd be prepared to work on it

[hidden flower]

yeee, i plan on doing the work myself so i'd be fine with that

[civic spoke]

Sounds fairly good. But will likely require a lot of on-going maintenance to keep it on the road.

[hidden flower]

yeee, willing to keep up with it ill probably be keeping it a while

its a green sedan

which i want sedan because 4 doors better for me

sun roof too

[woven leaf]

👀

[sturdy lily]

Guys quick question, it’s been like 6 month since I got my tires rotated and I assume the dealership torqued it over the Max limit. However, I want to practice changing a tire. Is it a bad idea to have 3 tires torqued higher than 1?

I’m just taking it оff, putting a spare on, then putting the original back, but at 76ft/lb like my manual says

[civic spoke]

Could always just retorque all corners. No need to actually remove the wheels to do that.

And if you want to practice doing a tire change, then you can just remove the tire, and put it back on again. No need to put on the spare.

But still good to check that you have all equipment required for a tire change.

[wispy cloak]

I doubt that a dealer would do that

And also torquing the wheels is good practice but I don't do it on my own stuff half of the time

[wraith rivet]

dealerships are pretty bad from what I’ve heard

[wispy cloak]

Usually they'll follow the correct service procedure

Price wise they're horrible though

And time wise

They take a lot longer than private shops in my experience

[sturdy lily]

I really don’t want to do the other tires since I have to remove the hub caps and they’re fragile, to even get access to the lug nuts

My dealership just depends cuz sometimes they’re fast and sometimes they’re slow, and I just go there for the free stuff for my car, I’ll do stuff on my own once they expire

[civic spoke]

The worst places are usually the tire dealers.

Other company I worked at used one, and they swapped between summer and winter tires.

The nuts were so stuck that the air impact couldn't remove it.

Guy had to bring out a long-ass breaker bar.

[wispy cloak]

Sounds like you didn't have a 3/4" drive air impact

[misty mantle]

Every good mechanic should have at least 3 of those

Even if they dont work

[civic spoke]

I don't know, it wasn't me who did it, I had to call the tire shop to come out and swap out the punctured tire.

[wispy cloak]

My main impact is a milwaukee compact 3/8" drive and it does basically anything you could need to do on a regular duty vehicle

Except maybe crank bolts and stuff like that

[sturdy lily]

Jeez I hope my battery 1/2” impact can remove lug nuts, I bought it just for this occasion, but 650ft/lb breakaway torque should be more than enough and specifically since my dad never does maintenance on his car so I started doing everything for him

[wispy cloak]

But you shouldn't be impacting crank bolts anyways

[civic spoke]

I couldn't remove it while jumping to try and get the nuts off.

[wispy cloak]

How long is your breaker bar

[civic spoke]

That one wasn't a long one, just whatever was available in the car for doing the emergency changes.

So I guess a foot?

Maybe a bit more.

[misty mantle]

Thats why jack handles exist

[wispy cloak]

Oh that isn't very much

[misty mantle]

But you prob didn't have one with you

[wispy cloak]

I've been meaning to get a 1/2" drive milwaukee

[civic spoke]

But still. 75 kg jumping on that is a lot of torque.

[wispy cloak]

Especially now that I have the f350

[misty mantle]

Yeah

That would be a good investment

[wispy cloak]

They advertise around 1400ft-lbs if I remember right

Only about $300 for the tool

[misty mantle]

For the fuel version

[wispy cloak]

The only one that's worth it

[misty mantle]

yee

[wispy cloak]

The non fuel isn't worth it

[misty mantle]

HOLY SHIT

[civic spoke]

Never seen one?

[wispy cloak]

I've seen the 1" milwaukee d handle

But not that

[misty mantle]

Same

[civic spoke]

It's a big impact. Goes pretty slow, but lots of weight behind it.

[wispy cloak]

What are the advertised specs

[civic spoke]

Trying to find them.

[charred depot]

thankfully my wheels are on and off enough generally so they don't seize up.

Didnt have a spare for a while which with my luck is risky but fixed with a tyre sling for a mercedes sprinter

[wispy cloak]

I'm probably going to start buying some snap-on stuff in the spring and summer

[civic spoke]

Up to 3000 Nm

[wispy cloak]

The sears craftsman set has served me well but the low tooth count hurts

[civic spoke]

1,1 kW 400v 3-phase

[wispy cloak]

That's only like 200lbs-ft more than the milwaukee

https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-Electric-Tools-2868-20-D-HANDLE/dp/B08CRYYQH6

[civic spoke]

The design is like 70+ years old at this point.

[charred depot]

always take the numbers with a grain of salt

[wispy cloak]

Milwaukee is pretty close to advertised

If I remember right

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/3MU66_qevK8

Most will have triggers on the handle to put it in forward or reverse.

[charred depot]

sadly im too much of a cheapskate for a decent impact

[misty mantle]

That the non-fuel version of the 1/2 inch impact?

[charred depot]

having to heat it and smack it aswell, was just lifting the car up heh

[misty mantle]

rip

[wispy cloak]

It isn't milwaukee

[misty mantle]

Just noticed that

[charred depot]

oh I misunderstood

yeah im too cheap for that shit

einhell

one hell of a piece of shit

[misty mantle]

Yeah

I have a pile of shit Ryobi impact wrench that wont even take 4-wheeler lug nuts off

Yet my dads Milwaukee version of it takes them right off

[charred depot]

mines can do that fine its actually alright

paranoid about my spare wheel carrier vibrating loose and dumping my spare wheel on the motorway

[misty mantle]

It held up by a bolt?

[charred depot]

yeah

[misty mantle]

Crank on it with the impact and it should be fine

[charred depot]

cant do that as will just bend the carrier

[misty mantle]

Blue loctite

[misty mantle]

What is that? Rebar?

[charred depot]

just steel

spare wheel not fitted

[misty mantle]

I wouldn't be trusting it anyway with the amount of rust holes in that trunk floor

[charred depot]

mot pass : )

it did fail on the boot being too rusty

[misty mantle]

Man, am I happy to live in a place where we don't have rust problems and don't have inspections

[charred depot]

Works out well for me as gives cheap access to cars

Sometimes its annoying failing on some bs which isnt even dangerous

[stoic ledge]

Inspections are generally a good thing

If you worry about your car not passing inspection, it shouldn't be on the road

It's the bare minimum of safety it requires

[charred depot]

most of us fail every year heh

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

the time of year of actually having to fix your car

Thankfully all my MOTs are in summer

or not thankfully

[misty mantle]

I get why part of the reason it failed was because of the rear being rusted to shit, the brakes being worn out, and the wheel bearings being worn, but when was the last time you had to use the horn?

[stoic ledge]

Well mine failed also ... Because the rear indicators were showing some white beams while they're only allowed to be amber or red But that's like a 2€ fix

[charred depot]

Honestly the horn worked then died as the MOT tester pressed it

[misty mantle]

rip

[stoic ledge]

Classic

[charred depot]

Its got some moped sounding horn on it now

[stoic ledge]

Our Peugeot was the opposite

It never worked

Except during an inspection

[charred depot]

we had a civic that would conveniently turn its ABS light off around the month of the inspection then go on the rest of the year

[misty mantle]

I would say something about my Ranger, but as soon as I do, something is going to break

[misty mantle]

Its like it knew you didn't want to fix it

[charred depot]

The tester I use for my MOTs is definitely at the lenient end.

Used to have a very lenient place but under new management : (

I dont personally see the issue with holy outer sills but the rules are the rules

Very lenient MOT

lenient to normaish MOT

1 year apart

[misty mantle]

holy mother of frame rust

[fathom socket]

I wanted to buy a 24v 2000 watt inverter for my truck

but holy fuck, they are expensive

[wispy cloak]

I have rust problems and no inspections

You ever seen a truck bent in half going down the road?

[misty mantle]

This is the most rust that isn't surface rust you will find where I live (California). That is 25 years worth of battery acid that has been eating at this battery tray

And this is on a 1996 Chevy Pickup that mostly sits

[misty mantle]

Nope

[civic spoke]

Oh, dang. The last Boeing 747 has rolled off the assembly line now. Over 50 years of production.

[dense shard]

Truly the trabant of the skies

Ignoring the fairly dramatic and extreme changes over the years

[plucky flame]

My grandma is having the time of her life down in florida right now

She saw another one as she was going to her hotel last night

[fathom socket]

These cars give me anxiety

[plucky flame]

I like the aston

The lambo is too generic

[wispy cloak]

that thing is clapped

the bumper is missing, turn signal is missing, paint is horrible, needs tires, most likely leaks a ton, has a bad interior, etc.

i would advise saving a little bit more for a nicer car personally

[hidden flower]

Ah okie that’s fair

[wraith rivet]

after fiddling with the eq and settings for the past few days I think I finally perfected it

might need a little more detail on the high end but it’s good

[plucky flame]

one lb ft for every rpm

it starts at 1100 lb ft at 500 rpm

methanol is one hell of a drug i tell you hwhat

[patent basalt]

Auto e36 bad

They have a junk gm 4l30e stay away from em

My e36s auto shit the bed at 153k. A very well maintained 153k

[winged aurora]

okay, what do yall think about 1957 Chevy Bel-Airs

[dawn glade]

Friend of mine is building a Chevrolet 150 ... it's a nice car

Bel-air just have more chrome than the 150

Kinda "cheap" to build since they were quite popular
Also it's surprisingly not that heavy of a car and can be fitted with modern engine, drivetrain and suspension if you want to.

[winged aurora]

yeah, tbh i don't know much about them specifically, but ive seen a fair amount of em and just love them so much lol. Absolutely beautiful cars in my opinion. If I had any choice of a car it would be one of those

[wide hemlock]

car

took it on a 3000 mile road trip earlier in the year and the battery cables gave up 13 hours in

still runs like a champ

[fathom socket]

If I ever get a Volvo I'll definitely put on that moose badge

[wide hemlock]

get a clover too

so it doesnt explode

also have an old one

[fathom socket]

Nice, love those old bricks

[wide hemlock]

240s kinda suck but hipsters have made the prices outrageous again

swedish honda civic

[civic spoke]

Could also go with a horseshoe on the grille.

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/ZmWREtcDVBE

[zealous void]

Just got new car good fixer upper as need middle exhaust and new front left wing

[timber oar]

It's very... blue

https://tenor.com/view/blue-da-ba-dee-eiffel65-gif-14330492

[winged mica]

Its red line time... (headphone warning)

my ears are still ringing

[feral reef]

How to get hearing loss 101

[tepid wing]

Does anyone know if the Bolt EV (23) will come with a bidirectional heat pump?

[fathom socket]

why these sound like motorcycles?

[brittle totem]

My dads passat just got an check engine light after 51k km 🤔

[wispy cloak]

Did to check to see if the engine is still there?

[fathom socket]

Are there 3 seater Euro 5 pickup "trucks" that isn't like delivery van sold in EU?

[stoic ledge]

Wait what?

You want a 3 seats Euro 5+ vehicle which isn't a van

But a pick-up truck is allowed

Did you mean that?

[fathom socket]

Ye

[fathom socket]

I mean there are havicles like a transporter iveco daily or something with a bed

But if something like this exists here

[fathom socket]

the mazda miata is so hot. Never in the history of automotive technology has there been a hotter car. it is more than a car to me, it is a person. it is a little tease but its's basically my wife. The designer know what they did with that car. The aesthetic paired with its headlights make it such an attractive car. Nothing gets me going better than a small cramped sports car with pop up headlights. Every inch of it is so hot. its wheels up to its interior and it headlights. Every inch of it is perfection incarnate. I would stop driving it on a busy highway just to feel the intimacy between us. I crave more than lustful fantasies with it, I seek deep romantic involvement. The craftsmanship of its shell surpasses everything I expected from mazda. its revving and interior formats and its looks. The choice of color with red or a deep blue show its beautiful wheels and complements its black droptop roof and more. it is my wife, and nothing dissuades me from this

[fathom socket]

do even a reputable brand PD3.0 car chargers exist?

[civic spoke]

What kind of output do you need?

[fathom socket]

a 45 watt one for a steam deck

[civic spoke]

https://www.spigen.com/collections/car-charger/products/car-charger-arc-sa?variant=41508003905583

[fathom socket]

do they ship in european onion?

[civic spoke]

No idea. But it appears that I can buy them here in Sweden, at least. Check around locally.

[fathom socket]

all I find are something I had melt

so I did check and the only things I get are off-brands

[civic spoke]

A general problem that I have checking with chargers is just the whole "This charger is 45W!" (Pst. It's actually just 30+15W)

[fathom socket]

I found one that has a 100 watt output from a brand that has some reputation

but it's sold only in Poland

[civic spoke]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B0BD462WV7

[fathom socket]

TY

but sadly unaviable

[civic spoke]

Oh welp.

Do you really require that 45W charging rate, though?

[fathom socket]

yes

I mean technically it can charge from regular phone charger

but it won't charge if I want to play on it unless it's 45 watts

finally

https://www.amazon.it/SAMSUNG-Tipo-Max-USB-Cavo/dp/B084CNN3Y7/ref=sr_1_8?crid=1S3N7GCNWR8KC&keywords=pd%2B45w&qid=1670763970&s=electronics&sprefix=pd%2Celectronics%2C230&sr=1-8&th=1

found this buried

[fathom socket]

How much do carburated v8 engines go for

[civic spoke]

All depends on the engine. If it's a scrapyard engine, crate engine, or whatever.
Not to mention that the engine really isn't dictated by the carb.

It's kind of like asking "How much do N/A cars go for?"
As it all depends.

[charred depot]

door fell off into my hands today 🗿

Got nice tyres on the front though now

would prefer proper winters but all sneezons are better than nothing and free so

[frank trout]

Opinions on MG

[sinful creek]

Expect that somebody did repairs on it
Don’t expect the repairs to have been done proper

[frank trout]

Ah I meant the EV range. Looking to buy one

[sand viper]

https://youtu.be/HSA3XL8XDC8

[frank trout]

Seen that vide

What do you think about the car

[stoic ledge]

I think it's hideous

Specs are alright

Especially for the price

Wouldn't really want a Chinese car tho

My cousin bought an Marvel R and thinks it's the best car in the world and that he is better than everyone else

Which is an okay car again for the price but many things are just not like you'd expect them, or like mistakes in the design process which you wouldn't find with for example a European car manufacturer

Although that might exclude VW's ID-range as that's 100% an ergonomics failure

[sand viper]

I like it, reasonably priced and it has good features. I love the way it looks, it's different from all other EVs

Have you taken a look at the Chevy EUV? It's probably the most boring looking electric car out there, but it's feature rich and well priced. Only downside is it's charging rate, it isn't slow by any means, just not up to par to the rest of the market

[stoic ledge]

Don't think any Chevy is available on markets where the MG 4 is

[stoic ledge]

Also, I'd like to differentiate here between a state-owned company like SAIC vs a privately-owned company like Geely. I wouldn't really want a state-owned company Chinese car

[brittle totem]

German quality 🤔

[stoic ledge]

Well that's just VW things 🙃

Also I'm not really talking about reliability stuff, but more like some odd design choices on the interior for example

[charred depot]

I forget the classic peugeot parts specialist doesent work mondays 🗿

[brittle totem]

And don't forget the check engine light and the ecu failure.

[charred depot]

Think even with my shite ive had one check engine light for a vacuum leak

[stoic ledge]

Again, more VW things

[charred depot]

riding in luxury

[stoic ledge]

That's one modern looking door handle

Wait that's actually how they looked? Why did they ever go back to those black plastic doorhandles on the 306/405/... ?!

[charred depot]

yeah

[stoic ledge]

306

Convertible I think because our Break (Wagon) had the power window controls in the center console iirc

Or was that just the power mirror controls

[charred depot]

505

[stoic ledge]

Ah no that's a Peugeot 206 thing

Some weird design thing on the 306 Break I never understood... the rear speakers were in the tailgate lol

So if you filled up the boot they were entirely blocked so you couldn't hear a thing

[charred depot]

My saab has them all the way at the back to the sides of the parcel shelf

[stoic ledge]

That's slightly better, that's still in the cabin

[charred depot]

I think its actually too povvo spec for front speakers cant remember

I believe those are the only speakers

[stoic ledge]

https://preview.redd.it/5gluchejoj481.jpg?auto=webp&s=c3194666921b394f7246e433dd4101c892545d51

This is peak Peugeot interior

605

[charred depot]

way too many electrical things going on here heh

[stoic ledge]

Lol that's a weird choice lol, you'd expect only front speakers and the rear to be optional

[stoic ledge]

There was a more basic version with no radio, and dials for the HVAC system

But for the time that was very modern to have it like that

[charred depot]

mhm

heater controls on the 305 are vacuum powered

[stoic ledge]

I have no idea what the 605 used

Probably not vacuum

[charred depot]

got different colours for each line

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

this is the best car

[plucky flame]

Disagree

[wispy cloak]

Probably a bait account

Look at the profile

[lament vigil]

The battery is fine, but sometimes little difficult to start the vehicle.
What side effect if the engine oil dirty?

[fathom socket]

Italians are the worst

Like I'm going minding my business and someone decides it will be a fucking good idea to overtake on a left turn where they can't see anything coming towards them

[lament vigil]

It was bad idea if someone overtake when turn, the worst are the vehicle will crash

I have no idea why people so confident with their decisions like that

[fathom socket]

In to me

[vocal mural]

That actually looks nice

[lament vigil]

Exactly

[wispy cloak]

I would just get it changed

And when it's hard to start is it when it's cold or warm

[lament vigil]

First start, around 80⁰C(176⁰F)

[lament vigil]

Like cold start

[wispy cloak]

So it's hard to start when cold or hot? The temperature you just said sounds like when it's warm but you're saying cold

[lament vigil]

Like both of them, even the engine hot or cold it's still difficult to start

[wispy cloak]

Do you have a video?

[lament vigil]

No i didn't, but when i start the car there's is like pause

[fathom socket]

We participate in a wee bit of tomfoolery

[feral reef]

What’s up with the Adolf stache

[civic spoke]

Efficiency

[fathom socket]

It's pretty spacious

[fathom socket]

ETS 1 💀

[fathom socket]

Why 1?

It reminds me of it

[civic spoke]

Could be worse. Could be driving my truck.

Got another warning message. This time it's just saying "Sensor error. Drive to service."

[fathom socket]

No car can outlast the 1997 Toyota Corolla

[fathom socket]

If doesn't biodegrade

[civic spoke]

Looks decently fresh.

[fathom socket]

It's kinda falling apart inside

Mostly cracked plastics

[fathom socket]

It was just washed and services

[fathom socket]

At least it got a table

[fathom socket]

Is that a French license plate?

[fathom socket]

Italian

Oh

How much does it cost to obtain such a unit 😳

And what kind of taxes does the government demand for ownership of such a vehicle.

[stoic ledge]

I think it depends per country, but commercial vehicles aren't taxed that heavy usually

In 🇳🇱 it depends on the amount of axles and the Euro-rating, Euro 6 is €750-1250 per year

Euro 0 is €1400-2400

Which isn't too bad if you consider a 1300kg diesel car is taxed at €1400/year

[vocal mural]

Still better than owning a car privately in the Netherlands

[fathom socket]

Wait till you see how much money the government steals from people owning a car in Austria. 😁

[stoic ledge]

Probably less than in 🇳🇱

😛

@charred depot https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/zjv87l/chaos_in_the_snow_in_the_uk/ what are you doing? Maniac

[charred depot]

They didnt tell me it was a writeoff scammed!