cars

[stoic ledge]

Oh no wait

Those actually have an RPM meter

WHY

Ah no

Power %

[bitter compass]

I think its power output

Because it can go negative

[stoic ledge]

Yeah negative is charge

[bitter compass]

Also i thought why the f it stops at 160 but i think it's got a limiter at 140

[stoic ledge]

Toyota Hybrids have something like this

[stoic ledge]

Probably the same speedometer as regular up!s

Same with the fuel level

[bitter compass]

200kmh

[stoic ledge]

Ah

Apparently "fuel" display is also slightly different

Ah no it's the same for facelift models

[bitter compass]

Would be odd to have a topspeed of 175 but speedo stops at 160

[stoic ledge]

No way the official top speed of the 1.0 MPI is 175

[bitter compass]

Si

[stoic ledge]

Hmm 172 apparently for the 75hp version

More than I expected

[bitter compass]

Its actually with enough straight distance more like 180

[vocal mural]

In a laboratory

[fathom socket]

My fuel economy goes brrrr

[stoic ledge]

Meriva's says it's doing 5.7L/100km

Curious to see what it'll actually be

[bitter compass]

I know for a fact how much the up sips without looking at the fuel economy

[fathom socket]

It's cityl driving only tho

[bitter compass]

Because i pretty much get 550km out of that 35l tank which is about 6.4 liters

[fathom socket]

My mixed was 9.4l/100km

[bitter compass]

But i drive like an idiot at 160 on motorway

[fathom socket]

On highway i get like 7.4l/100 avg

I drive old car with large engine

And 2.0 for my standards is large

[bitter compass]

Average old car with tiny engine lets gooo

[stoic ledge]

For zhe Meriva it's a test for me, I'm taking it on longer trips so it's different from normal, usually it's 6.6L/100km or something similar. So I'm curious to see if it can actually do 5.7L/100km.

For the Corsa on LPG it makes 0 difference what driving I do, it basically always uses the same. Fast driving, city driving, countryside, eco driving, doesn't matter

My brother's 1er is reporting the exact same number

[bitter compass]

I actually could drive at like 4.2 liters if i stick to 100-120 max at mixed driving

Motorway just hurts

And living on a mountain also hurts

[fathom socket]

I feel

I wanted to day i drive a 2.0 dinosaur, but I have MPI

But I drive on highway basically heavily loaded

[feral reef]

I can do about 4.8-4.9 if I stick between 80-100

[bitter compass]

Ye that 6km mountain i have to go up before i reach my village is always murdering fuel economy

[feral reef]

I always find that I get most of it back on the descent

[hard stag]

Brrrrrrr brrrr

[fathom socket]

Mine is most efficient around 120 kmh

[feral reef]

really? that's quite fast

[fathom socket]

I do 130kmh max.
It becomes way too loud with engine revving at 5k

[feral reef]

I think somewhere between 70 and 90 I get peak economy

[bitter compass]

About 100kmh is it for most modern cars a good economic middle

[feral reef]

it doesn't increase by that much going up to 110-115

But after that it shoots up quite drastically

I think a 200 kph it's like 20l/100km or something stupid

[bitter compass]

Inefficiency is exponential

[feral reef]

drag indeed increases exponentially

[fathom socket]

I never to try go 200kmh

[bitter compass]

Like driving 200 is way more inefficient than double of driving 150 compared to 100

[fathom socket]

But I'm really heavily loaded

[feral reef]

My car is very draggy

[hard stag]

This is efficient all the time

[bitter compass]

200 is stupid and should be forbidden

But muuuh freedom

[feral reef]

lol, come at me

[fathom socket]

Meanwhile the guy behind me flashing their light and honking when I was going 180 kmh

[bitter compass]

I think most drivers are not capable of going that fast including me

[fathom socket]

180 was my max with a car

With truck I think it was 102 kmh

[feral reef]

Vroom

[fathom socket]

Also sometimes 20 kmh feels too fast in some trucks

[bitter compass]

I maxed out the golf once... But i wouldn't do it over and over again

[fathom socket]

My Ford Focus mk1 1.8 16v did top speed in 3 cylinders

With a blinking check engine light

[feral reef]

3 instead of 4?

That rated top speed must have been very conservative then, haha

[brittle totem]

5K at 130km/h the cars I have driven is usually around 1,7k-2,5k rpm at those speeds.

[fathom socket]

It's actually 3.9k rpm

I've meant driving any faster

Call me dumb that i assume people can read my mind

[brittle totem]

Still pretty high for those speeds I guess that only have 5 gears.

[fathom socket]

Yep

There were 6 speed ones

I wonder if I could upgrade my gearbox since mine one is broken

[brittle totem]

The weird thing is that my dads car runt at around 1,5-1,7k rpm at 130km/h but it has 7 gears. And my moms car sits at a bit over 2k rpm but it has 8 gears.

[fathom socket]

I'm like unable to downshift to 3rd gear without grinding gears

And up shifting to 3rd I have to manually synchronize

my dad's car exits gears

And that's also happens on 5th gear

I let off gas and my car goes off gear

And when I put gas it goes in gear

The lever literally moves on 5th

[fathom socket]

DIESEL or Petrol?

[brittle totem]

My dads car is a Diesel and my moms is a Petrol both have 2.0L i4s.

[fathom socket]

I usually like to keep my engine revving around 2.5-3.5k

Ofc it gets higher when goes fast

But I don't like go below 2.5k

Feels super sluggish below there

my dad's car

[feral reef]

My car does like 3k rpm at 130kph in 6th gear

2k at 80 kph in 6th

actually thinking about it, I think it's quite a bit above 3k at 130kph

mhhh maths says it should be 3.2k at 130kph

[fathom socket]

Still much lower than me

Imagine driving 15 hours with engine that stays around 4k rpm

Let alone 5k

Hope my new headgasket can handle this

[clear mortar]

Saw one of these mfs
Super rusty lookin and yellow

Either the seats were super low or there was no seats 💀💀

[fathom socket]

This looks like a chinesium mini that crossbreed with golf cart and VW thing/safari

[sudden pecan]

mozda power

https://cdn.rage.dev/pyotoxinemia-notothere-repacking-soiliest.mp4

these lights never work

https://cdn.rage.dev/nandu-nonconfining-expediences-unescheated.mp4

[crisp cedar]

Man I love the soapbox

[vocal mural]

@fathom socket What happened to your cargo?

[fathom socket]

🤣

[vocal mural]

https://www.gld.nl/nieuws/7780008/weg-bezaaid-met-purschuim-nadat-vrachtwagen-openscheurt

[fathom socket]

@deep zealot what's the first mod you'd do to a e36

[deep zealot]

tires. Those are the weakness to most old cars, and then go up from there

So coilovers, chassis work, ditch the rear seats, and then work on the engine

[slender tendon]

not the baddie chrysler 200

[deep zealot]

Depending on the transmission, that might need to go as well. Also depends if it’s gonna be used on the track or somewhere else

[slender tendon]

the way this is so accurate

nissan activities

[fathom socket]

whut happened here?

[vocal mural]

A polish truck have been hitting another car on the left lane, the side curtain came loose. The cargo is polyurethane, an isolation substance

[brittle totem]

This will be a bit interesting Tesla is apperently replacing their ultra sonic parking sensors with Vision/camera based instead. https://www.tesla.com/support/transitioning-tesla-vision

[stoic ledge]

Yeah it's inferior but they pretend like it's better, also the removal will probably benefit the buyer €/$/¥/£..0, so pure profit for Tesla

Also, apparently they didn't met their production goals, but still overproduced to the demand

[brittle totem]

Yeah the made 343.000 cars and they thought they would manage to make 346.000 car in q3 but it still a big improvement over q2.

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/yRdzIs4FJJg

[brittle totem]

Oh my numbers where a bit of off here are real ones for q2 and q3,

[brittle totem]

And the ultra sonics ones they have right now was very good to it even showed distance in cm and millimeter and it was really accurate too.

[civic spoke]

It's just ways to reduce costs. Sadge.

[vocal mural]

5000km of fun

In 4 months

[hot nova]

saw this the other day

[timber oar]

Yeee

[feral reef]

Just saw a Roll Royce Dawn Black Badge, very nice

[fathom socket]

My 307 is so bad in City

I get like 13.7l/100km now

[feral reef]

What, how

That's actually terrible

[indigo knoll]

That's me day after tomorrow.

[feral reef]

You getting a new car or are you going to Germany?

[indigo knoll]

Going to Germany for a few days. In The Hague atm staying with friends.

[feral reef]

Nice

[stoic ledge]

The Hague

||hides||

Before the hooligans come

[charred depot]

Driving a car with a cracked radiator for months finally went wrong heh

Still got home fine

Friend laughed when I said I keep 10 litres of water just in case

used all 10 litres getting home

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

I got given a free radiator in what appears to be brand new condition by a friend though

I was putting it off as its £300 to be recored etc by a specialist and generally unobtanium for replacement

Needed to get it done for winter though so I could actually run antifreeze

I was expecting to end up on "cars you dont see anymore" facebook as I had to stop on the A92 during rush hour then do a XUD power wheelspin into 70mph traffic

no one in the slow moving traffic on the opposite side decided to photograph my despair however

[stoic ledge]

[wispy cloak]

I get 21.2L/100km in the city

[tiny axle]

My Avalon xls give 11.7-12.4L/100Km 3.6 btw

[random siren]

5.2l/100... but it's only 2 wheels 🙂

[warped aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-car-gif-22098603

on my way home from work

[deep zealot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1018678165369008188/1027431189759402024/trim.8917233B-E516-4F05-924C-F3AE81E12A31.mov

Sounds not bad for a stock car

[wraith rivet]

my mazda 6 has averaged 18mpg this tank but all i do is go to and from school which is like 100% stop and go traffic

or 13 liters/100km

[viscid saffron]

cool for stock

[deep zealot]

yea everythings stock

stock DME, stock exhaust, stock reso, stock muffler, both cats on there

[carmine summit]

my best is 4.5l/100km

big turbo, big injectors, cat delete

increased fuelling, stock boost for now

injection timing advanced about as far as possible

need to swap ECUs so I can add more dynamic injection advance and turn up the boost

[vocal mural]

Next year I will start with driving license A

[deep zealot]

Ive got a friend pushing 5 mpg on his single turbo 800 whp build

hes running port injection, Pure turbos, and methanol injection

[civic spoke]

Is that a...

[brittle totem]

Well we get this in in heavy wagon. But its an Volkswagen so you never know it tjose numbers are correct.

[stoic ledge]

Redbull Racing

[fathom socket]

That's what I get with a semi truck

[brittle totem]

OH and I thought the consumption in my moms car was bad maybe i shouldn't complain then. Seems like evereyone hets gets over 10l/100km.

[brittle totem]

Is Max Verstappen in front of you ?

[stoic ledge]

#33, old car

[civic spoke]

Meanwhile. This truck tells me average of 30 L/100km

[brittle totem]

Looks like Stockholm during rush hours just that the traffic jam lasts trough the whole city.

[acoustic igloo]

💀

whats your fuel prices

[civic spoke]

I think it was €2.40 a liter?

[acoustic igloo]

💀

i cant complain about my prices anymore

[civic spoke]

It was €2.45 even.

[acoustic igloo]

thats foul

[civic spoke]

Meanwhile. Some Americans are annoyed to pay that price per gallon.

[acoustic igloo]

mines 1.38 euro

[acoustic igloo]

they got it good

they just drive 3 ton boats

couple cents cheaper in us than aus

thats just going off the average i can find

[civic spoke]

Having big trucks here is useless. Since you're required to register hours driven and the like if you go above a certain limit.

I'm talking pickup dealios by that.

[brittle totem]

And this is before the diesel price "spiked" again its currently at 26,5kr/l. 1505 Sek is around 210 AUD for just one tank of diesel.

[acoustic igloo]

cost 700 to fill both tanks in my car

[acoustic igloo]

thats nearly 4aud a litre💀

[civic spoke]

I heard from another company that he ordered all of his drivers fill up all tanks before the weekend.

Maybe 9 trucks and 3 excavators, tractors and other fuel tanks.

Could be over 7,500 SEK saved from not doing anything special.

[acoustic igloo]

manager of a cattle station gets people to do something similar to that

he ran out of reserve tanks

[civic spoke]

Cattle station? Don't those get the red juice?

[feral reef]

What do you do, send it every time and then emergency brake to get to a stop again?

[acoustic igloo]

This one is more of a tax write off

Lil dodgey

They normally buy massive tanks

[stoic ledge]

Must be the worst fuel consumption of a Mazda 6 in the world

[feral reef]

haha, probably, 13L is actually impressive

[stoic ledge]

7.65km/l

You can get better fuel economy with a Range Rover

[acoustic igloo]

How big is the engine to suck up that much

Only 1L off from my cruiser

[stoic ledge]

I think US Mazda 6's have a 2.5L I4

[feral reef]

The Mazda 6 over here comes with the "same" engine as my MX-5

[acoustic igloo]

Baffled

[feral reef]

A 2 liter i4

[acoustic igloo]

💀

Sucks up that much

[feral reef]

They must be doing something crazy to get those numbers

[acoustic igloo]

My 4.2 i6 gets 15L to 100k

[feral reef]

That's crazy high displacement for an i6

What kind of vehicle is it?

[acoustic igloo]

100 series cruiser

Gxl

[stoic ledge]

US also gets a 2.5 Turbo for the Mazda 6 but iirc his wasn't that

[acoustic igloo]

It's a deisel

[stoic ledge]

2.5 I4 is also optional in Europe btw

[feral reef]

Ahh yeah, you need to upgrade the base trim to get that as an option

[feral reef]

What is this

[acoustic igloo]

Radio antenna

For up bush

Like a truck radio

[feral reef]

Ahh, cool

[acoustic igloo]

Also for in the desert incase U need help

Was built for cross country

[stoic ledge]

Yeah often see that in Australian dashcam videos

[fathom socket]

I wonder if I overloaded my car

love when I have random response selected and I'm not aware of it because I'm blind

[acoustic igloo]

Very common for a 4b to have them

Idk about other countries

[civic spoke]

Jokes on you.
I want to know if you overloaded your car.
(Not because I have the police on speed dial or anything...)

[fathom socket]

I'm worried more about the engine

I had my head gasket replaced

gotta have to drive up really steep mountain

[vocal mural]

Antenna for PMR, likely around 169MHz

[fathom socket]

undless I do it on reverse

[civic spoke]

Truck or personal vehicle?
You can just go slower in a lower gear, you know.

[fathom socket]

Personal vehicle

[fathom socket]

more worried about not getting grip

[civic spoke]

Why wouldn't you have grip? roads that bad?

[fathom socket]

because I have basically a big load in the trunk

and I already empty have issues with grip at that one particular incline

[stoic ledge]

Too much weight on the back, no weight on the front, going uphill shifting the center of gravity even more

[civic spoke]

So just no weight on the drive wheels?

Do a 5 head move, and drive backwards if you have a FWD car.

[fathom socket]

funny enough

my car is more stable when loaded heavily

it feel sometimes like it's gonna float away if there's strong winds

and I've heard someone telling the rear suspension is better than on a focus mk1

[civic spoke]

Many cars are like that.

You can probably feel it with trucks also.

[acoustic igloo]

when did you last get it rebuilt

could just have clogged parts

[fathom socket]

like 3 weeks ago

[acoustic igloo]

damn

wacky engine

[fathom socket]

I had it overheat

IDK how

but I've noticed the oil consumption is somewhat lower

[acoustic igloo]

but it struggles up hills

[fathom socket]

it's a fwd car

it will struggle up hill with load

[acoustic igloo]

i read the top part wrong💀

thought your engine was putting up hills

[fathom socket]

I'm more concerned to not overload the engine

[acoustic igloo]

makes sense

[fathom socket]

but I'm gonna be driving like most of the way on highway at high speeds

but last part worries me

where my mom lives there are 2 pretty steep hills

[acoustic igloo]

she'll be right

[fathom socket]

I think one is 30% and the other is 37%

[acoustic igloo]

crazy

[fathom socket]

not really sure, but I always do a burnout when going from stop

[acoustic igloo]

💀

[feral reef]

That's probably what Peter Griffin does in his Mazda 6 😂

[fathom socket]

I did fancy math

I should have around 250 kg of cargo in my car

[stoic ledge]

Not too bad

[fathom socket]

Idk where to put the water canister

[civic spoke]

That sounds like you are within your limits

[fathom socket]

I think my car can hold up to 500 kg

[feral reef]

What is all of that in there for and why is most of it wrapped in trash bags?

[fathom socket]

Plastic wrap

Just so people don't look

Mostly some electronics, pc l, screens clothes and collectable things

Also stuff to sleep with

Some food

[feral reef]

Wait so why do you have it in there?

[fathom socket]

I'm moving out

[feral reef]

Ahhh

[fathom socket]

I'll comeback with a trailer for the rest of stuff

Unless someone breaks in and steals everything from my storage unit

[civic spoke]

Brb

[fathom socket]

Huh?

[feral reef]

He's gone to steal your stuff

[fathom socket]

I'm still there

[acoustic igloo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/724600973334675507/1021655943848665138/Snapchat-355760392.mp4

[random siren]

hah in go 2 blocks and stop for 5 minutes vancouver traffic that doesn't move 😂 I'm just glad not to be feeding the work truck; it's in the 30s easy.

[vocal mural]

Not a usual Dutch road

[brittle totem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf-JM6k7yrQ Can someone explain why this car even exits ?

[brittle totem]

Perfect panel alignment right here.

[wraith rivet]

Lmao no

When I say 100% stop and go I mean 100% stop and go

I live 2 miles from school and it takes me like 5-15 minutes to get there the traffic is so bad

I might be a little bit aggressive on the throttle though when I have 3 minutes to get to class and I’m still down the road 😳

[stoic ledge]

Lol 2 miles I'd bike to school lol

[fathom socket]

My fuel economy on highway now went from 13.5l/100 to 7.3l/100

Big difference between city and highway driving

[brittle totem]

But he is from the US if I remember correctly so its probably "impossible" to bike our walk anywhere outside his neighborhood.

[bitter compass]

Agreed 👀

Actually i and most other kids in my town had to walk like 5 miles to school in winter

In general driving your kids to school is kinda a weird thing to do here

The only way it's accepted by society is if your parents work in close proximity to the school and you're from a different village

[brittle totem]

Same in Sweden and probably most country's in Europe. You either walk or bike or take the public transport.

[bitter compass]

The kids who were driven to school got the image of having helicopter parents

[wraith rivet]

I could lol but then I’d have to get up earlier

I savor every single minute of sleep I can get

and I have work right after school now so I kinda have to hurry home to get changed

[bitter compass]

Driving 2 miles if you could avoid it is just a horrific idea

Very short distance driving is just a bad idea

[feral reef]

2 miles is like a perfect bicycle distance

[eager raptor]

found an lfa today

[wraith rivet]

Ooh those things are so cool

[civic spoke]

Nurburgring Edition of it is 👌

[deft socket]

V10

[stoic ledge]

Lol if you need 15 minutes for 2 miles, you average 8mph... You can bike twice as fast

So biking would actually be faster

[stoic ledge]

Same, I did 6 miles one way for years

[dapper folio]

vroom

[sharp ore]

So my new co-worker has a 2017 Cadillac ats without the big infotainment system. He's got this issue with the Bluetooth where phones will connect to it no problem, but they recognize it as a mono Bluetooth headset with no audio output. It does calls only. He's using an s9 and I tried my s22 ultra, but there was no option for playing audio in the Bluetooth settings. I even tried forcing a different connection type via dev controls, but it didn't change anything. Anyone have any idea why that happens?

[wraith rivet]

Maybe

The part where it gets close is because to get out of my neighborhood I drive through it, then up this road that connects to the main road that doesn’t have any traffic

The main road has all the traffic which then has a turn off onto the school’s road then into the parking lot

and it’s uphill and I’ve skipped leg day for the past… many days

[stoic ledge]

No need for leg day if you bike enough

https://tenor.com/view/think-smart-gif-22411928

[wraith rivet]

That is true

But until that point it would be torture

I get people like exercising to feel and look good after but some people who like the feeling while they’re exercising I just don’t get

[stoic ledge]

Idk biking is a second nature for many, especially here

I don't even consider it as exercise

[wraith rivet]

that sounds nice

i used to ride my bike on trails around my city but its interest to me kinda died

most of the time the weather is terrible anyways we get like 10 good days a year where it isn’t too hot

In my opinion anyways I hate the heat

[brittle totem]

When I was in elementary school the whole way home where nearly just uphill. And this was the worst part it doesn't look that bad on picture but its way worse in reality and keep in mind that I was 7 when I started to bike to school.

[wraith rivet]

Rip

Did you have gears at least?

[stoic ledge]

Bikes without gears are horrendous

Also 3spd bikes are horrendous

[wraith rivet]

ikr

[charred depot]

back in my day we rode our bikes to school uphill both ways

[stoic ledge]

Ordered a new bicycle

[charred depot]

I have a peugeot road bike

[wraith rivet]

I had to ride to my junior high school on a bmx bike with no gears both ways over a big hill

[stoic ledge]

Should arrive in ~8 weeks

Lol BMX, tiny wheels don't help

[wraith rivet]

😭

Once I got over the hill then zooming down was fun

[stoic ledge]

Heh we got that as a loaner bike when we dropped off the Peugeot at the Peugeot dealership

[brittle totem]

Not on my first bike. 😢

[wraith rivet]

I only had rear brakes iirc so it was kinda sketchy tho because there was a fence at the bottom of the hill I had to go through a tiny side path to get through

[wraith rivet]

Damn that must’ve sucked

[stoic ledge]

I barely use my front brakes ngl

[charred depot]

I did cyclocross so had a mountain bike setup for that, still mountain bike was far from ideal.

what could make or break the result was your ability to climb over a wall with your bike on your shoulder.

[stoic ledge]

[charred depot]

all these people cheating with like road bike frames 😤

[stoic ledge]

I just have a city/tour bike

No mountain bike thingy

[charred depot]

Have a few bikes but not cycled since I got my license

[stoic ledge]

Basically same

That's why I ordered a new one so I can cycle again :)

[charred depot]

I put brand new brakes on my fancy mountain bike.. then stopped cycling heh

[stoic ledge]

Well ngl my bike got stolen, so I got a handy down from my mom, but it's like 3 sizes too small so I don't like riding it. Also has like 25k miles on it lol

So now I got a proper bike again

Or well, soon

Largest frame size they create

Lol

[brittle totem]

Sadly bikes gets stolen quite often where I live specially if you leave them on the bike parking spot near the train station. Like if you have an fancy bike or any new bike it will nearly be guarantied to get stolen in less then a week.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I wouldn't park a good bike at the train station lol

Mine got stolen at the shopping mall while I was at work

🥲

Awesome

Also, definitely insuring the new bike lol

[brittle totem]

They even build this fancy "parking garage for bikes" for bikes this summer but nearly no ones uses because their bikes will most likely get stolen anyways.

[stoic ledge]

Stuff like that usually keeps them relatively safe here

Bike park here lol

[brittle totem]

And this is what happens if you decides to park you bike at the "old place".

[stoic ledge]

New ones are better tho

[brittle totem]

Most people uses shitty bikes to go to the station and then have fancy bikes for the weekends and stuff like that.

[brittle totem]

I can imagine it will take a while to get your bike out of there.

[stoic ledge]

I have no idea ngl

I never use public transport

[stoic ledge]

But yeah often same here

[brittle totem]

Public transport is completely free for me so i use it a lot specially now when "gas" is so expensive and the prices is Sweden just spiked again.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah no it's more expensive than my car for me

[charred depot]

I have free public transport but as I say, "its free for a reason" :^)

public transport so shite it has to be given away

[stoic ledge]

[brittle totem]

I mainly just use it to go to and home from school. Because it would be such of waste of money to drive to school mostly because parking is stupid expensive its like 15-20$ for 8 hours. And the it doesn't take that much longer to just use public transport either.

[charred depot]

ah when I went to uni the public transport was shite

like 3-4 connecting busses taking nearly 2 hours some days which I can do in like 20-30 mins in my car

[stoic ledge]

School parking is free, and I study abroad so no free public transport for me... Also trip time would be 6 times as long

[charred depot]

most infuriating thing arriving right as I see my next bus leaving

[brittle totem]

My school only has parking space for the teachers so I would need to use the public one witch is very expensive.

[stoic ledge]

Our parking is just too small, so if you arrive late there's no space left

Luckily I only need to be at the research center nowadays

So that's a private parking 😎

[wraith rivet]

I had to pay $23 for a parking pass idek if it’s for the whole year or just a semester

[charred depot]

my uni was like £200 or something for the year I think so I just parked my car in the residential streets near to the uni heh

[wraith rivet]

wtf that’s insane

[stoic ledge]

Private parking

😎

[charred depot]

they also limited the number of spaces to encourage greener transportation optionsTM

[stoic ledge]

Classic

[sinful creek]

Yo, how does e85 work in the winter? And if a car is tuned for e85, how hard is it to switch it to 91 when you have a turbo?

[serene surge]

Wouldn’t 91 be less likely to pre detonate

I’d assume no difference besides price unless your car relies on some property that needs lower compression detonations

[sinful creek]

Idrk that’s just what the engine was originally designed for

I’m just worried for the winter since it’s my first e85 car

[serene surge]

its the lowest quality fuel it was designed to consume

[sinful creek]

Idk if it has any of the precautionary things installed

[serene surge]

internet says going up in octane is 100% safe

[sinful creek]

Do I have to get it retuned if I have a flex fuel sensor?

[serene surge]

not likley

[sinful creek]

Well ethanol to gasoline is a bit of a difference idk

[serene surge]

your tune is probably designed to get maximum compression on E87 before detonation so if you put in 91 its gonna be fine unless you want more power and tune it for a higher pressure only then you need to retune for 87

[sinful creek]

Huh

I thought once you tuned it for ethanol/methanol you can’t go back to gas unless you retune it

Like how ethanol would deliver a wildly different AFR

[gloomy cove]

Ok would I be crazy for wanting to replace a transmission if it failed in a near 300k tahoe that is in great condition for the millage and still running like new with a lot of high quality parts

[wraith rivet]

tahoes are cool get a new transmission

[gloomy cove]

I knew that was the answer but my parents are saying NO how can I convince them

its got the 4l60e and it has a very violent shift from 1st to 2nd gear if I am at a low RPM but if I am at 2500 it shifts fine

[wispy cloak]

Just buy one and have it show up at your door

They can't say no if it's already there

[gloomy cove]

I never installed a transmission before

[wraith rivet]

Chrisfix

If you have the right tools it shouldn’t be insanely difficult as long as you get the exact correct new transmission

[sudden pecan]

https://cdn.rage.dev/archeopteryx-resuppress-sporozooid-colback.mp4

captured this lil gem today

[wraith rivet]

prius deserved it

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/xHEQG9pW9jU

[stoic ledge]

You sure it doesn't just need a flush?

[fathom socket]

So

The oil consumption drastically decreased

And also 5th gear pops out when I coast below 110 kmh

[feral reef]

e85 typically isn't actually E85 in winter

They change the composition throughout the year

Adding higher proportions of gasoline as it gets colder

[feral reef]

Going from E85 to almost any kind of regular gasoline is going down in octane rating, the octane rating of E85 is in the 100+ range

[feral reef]

At my office we only pay for like 3 or 4 spaces, but the parking lot is at most like 50% full, so sometimes we use like 10+

Technically we have assigned spaces too, but I don't even know which ones those are

[sinful creek]

My car is street tuned(not by me) on e85 for the summer how would that effect it?

[feral reef]

Well assuming the knock sensors still work, I would think less power on regular gasoline

You'd probably wanted the highest octane gasoline you can get

[sinful creek]

I’ve heard half e85 half 91 is a decent sweet spot but that just seems like a hassle

[civic spoke]

Problem with E85 is mainly just that some fuel systems can't handle the ethanol.

[feral reef]

Well that's not a problem here though, is it

[civic spoke]

For some, then even E10 is bad enough.

Yeah. It's not.

But the car might also not be tuned for E85.

Since the energy per volume is much lower with ethanol.

So you require a lot more fuel to reach the same level of output.

[feral reef]

My car is street tuned(not by me) on e85

[civic spoke]

Yeah. Then you ideally just want to run E85. Unless you also have a sensor that checks ethanol content.

[sinful creek]

Main thing I’m worried about is that in my state ethanol goes down to like 51% in the winter, regardless when it’s cold it doesn’t like vaporizing so cold starts can tend to be impossible in a below zero environment

Secondly I don’t actually know if it has the right sensors since it’s only been tuned in the summer

[feral reef]

Could you ask the person/company that tuned it for E85?

[sinful creek]

Individual, the person I bought the car from only used the software for two step

It was someone who owned it in like 2015 they tuned it

It’s been a garage car since

I don’t have a real way of contacting them

They had their email in some software but I don’t think it exists anymore

So uhhh

Tricky thing that

[civic spoke]

So ugly.

[vocal mural]

Still better than any IVECO

[wispy cloak]

That looks like a standard semi

[brittle totem]

Nah this looks like a standard truck to me.

[civic spoke]

The modern cabovers are actually super nice to drive.

[stoic ledge]

I'm always happy when I see a Ford F-Max

I know it's not sold in Europe but from time to time I see one

And it's nice to know as 99.9% of the people probably don't even notice it

[civic spoke]

I've seen a few of them

[stoic ledge]

Same, but not often

[civic spoke]

Yeah. Few and far between.

[civic girder]

what do you have agains the Prius

Those are nice cars, especially as a daily

[eager grove]

without looking

on US autotrader

what do you think is the price of the most expensive pick up truck

[gloomy cove]

it was flushed at 286k

it started having issues after the clogged cats caused a shutdown on the highway

[wispy cloak]

For a new one?

[eager grove]

It's used actually

[gloomy cove]

2011 6.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9PkcvgQ-Q

[eager grove]

$260,000

So nuts

[civic spoke]

I still hate those type of rims.

[eager grove]

So gross

[brittle totem]

So GMC is still selling this van in North America for 52k. Looks like a van from like early 2000s

[dense shard]

Because it is a van from the early 2000s

[vocal mural]

Nothing is worse than a FIAT

[gloomy cove]

ok you win on that one

[bitter compass]

That looks like it ran into a wall

[brittle totem]

But the fact that its still 52k in 2022 is just a bit crazy does anyone buy it for that price.

[night current]

I'm surprised it doesn't have a backup camera and display. I thought that was a requirement by law in the US.

Unless it does and pics are from 2013. Lol

[gloomy cove]

there just options that have become common but not a requirement there are still quite a few vehicles like that for example the work trim chevy colorado

[night current]

Damn Chevy...

[gloomy cove]

I mean a lot of work trim vehicles are like that and the full size gmc and chevy vans are mostly used for work and passenger transport

[dense shard]

Eh heavy duty work van that's got a strong following is bound to cost a dollar or so more

[gloomy cove]

Your mostly paying for a few things when you buy them a strong engine ,transmission and frame

[brittle totem]

🥹

[dense shard]

That's all there is

Sure as fuck ain't paint quality

[gloomy cove]

Or for them be turned into a box truck or mini bus

[night current]

Just Googled it, it's a federal regulation here to have a backup camera in cars produced in 2018 and after. Dunno how Chevy and a couple others get away with it. But I remember seeing base model Nissan sentras and other sub $20k new vehicles with them.

Wack

Maybe for commercial use it's regulated differently.

[gloomy cove]

Well they never really updated it since 2008 so im not sure

[night current]

In 2018 they did.

[pulsar granite]

yeah, backup cameras are a US federal requirement for sure

there were a couple of cars that got caught in a weird retrofit solution limbo where they had a fugly screen tacked on to their existing cheap stereo

[night current]

🤮

Gotta do what they gotta do ig. But I'd hate that so much. Lol

[pulsar granite]

I think the 2018 Mazda MX-5 basically just had the camera stuck in the middle of the rear bumper, it looks terrible

2014-2017 it didn't have one

[stoic ledge]

Still better than the "new" Mitsubishi ASX

Oh very low res picture

[pulsar granite]

wow that's a honker of a back-up cam

https://tenor.com/view/zoidberg-walking-zoidberg-futurama-walking-funny-gif-13167961

I see it also has the trendy lobster-claw tail lights

[stoic ledge]

It's a rebadge of the Renault Captur... There it's hidden in the Renault logo. But taking the logo away, that's what's left of it xD

[pulsar granite]

mitsubishi is such a non-starter for me in canada, literally the only non-horrible car they've sold here my entire life is the evo x

and even then the option packages were a bit weird so I bought a STi instead

[night current]

Man, I miss og Mitsubishi. 🥲

[pulsar granite]

their current lineup is 3 SUV/CUVs, a hybrid version of one of those, and the Mirage, a car I would avoid in pretty much all situations

I would rather buy a $10,000 used car and keep $5,000 for repairs than buy a $15,000 Mirage

[stoic ledge]

The new Outlander is a decent car... But ofc it doesn't get sold in Europe

🥲

Mirage is called Space Star here 🥲

And then they have the Eclipse Cross, the very old ASX which will now get replaced with the Renault rebadge... And that's it

[pulsar granite]

I don't know if I'd go as far as calling the new Outlander "good", but it at least looks less shit than everything else they've sold in the last decade

[civic spoke]

???

[pulsar granite]

they've gone with a 2.5 litre naturally aspirated engine in something that big, which both does not make it particularly quick or efficient

[stoic ledge]

All "SUVs" are ugly, atleast the Outlander has a decent value, the PHEV is okay and the interior is actually nice

It's the best car they made in over 10 years, so obviously they don't sell it in Europe

[pulsar granite]

...and the PHEV is still the old gen in Canada so you don't get to argue "well it's a little engine because they designed it around the hybrid"

[stoic ledge]

Ah so the PHEV is the old gen in Canada 🤔

[stoic ledge]

You sure you can't configure the Outlander with the PHEV engine?

Also, RVR 🥲 Why different naming? In Europe it's the ASX, in the US it's Outlander Sport ( 🥲 ) ...

[pulsar granite]

nope. all 7 trim levels on the site are the 2.5 + cvt + awd

[stoic ledge]

Yikes

[pulsar granite]

"RVR" is technically the original name (it's used in Japan). I seem to remember having the outlander sport for like a year then they replaced it with RVR.

there were ads EVERYWHERE for the RVR when it launched

[stoic ledge]

The name RVR is only used in Japan, South Korea, and Canada. In most markets, it is sold as the Mitsubishi ASX (an abbreviation of "Active Sports Crossover"), and as the Mitsubishi Outlander Sport in the United States, Argentina, Brazil, and Indonesia. ```
Why also Canada lol

[pulsar granite]

Japanese car companies tend to treat Canada separately from the USA

[stoic ledge]

Also weird they switched it during it's production xD

[pulsar granite]

we have completely different trim levels across all the Mazdas

[stoic ledge]

Sure but to group it with Japan and South Korea is weird, both those markets are RHD

[pulsar granite]

I might be hallucinating actually seeing an Outlander Sport here at a car show. Maybe it was a pre-production unit... I dunno

Nissan also named a couple of things differently for a few years

[stoic ledge]

The RVR/ASX/... was also sold in Europe as a Peugeot 4008 / Citroen C4 Aircross

[pulsar granite]

I think we have the Qashqai when the USA doesn't?

[stoic ledge]

Qashqai is Rogue Sport in the US

X-Trail is Rogue

[pulsar granite]

yeaaaah we had Rogue, Rogue Sport, and Qashqai here for a bit

[dense shard]

Rogue Sport is going away in the US

[pulsar granite]

The Rogue was the new Rogue, the Rogue Sport was the old Rogue, and the Qashqai was the Qashqai

[stoic ledge]

[pulsar granite]

we used to have a body-on-frame SUV called the X-Trail based on the little truck in the early '00s

[stoic ledge]

You sure you aren't confusing it with the Xterra?

[pulsar granite]

oh, you're right

[stoic ledge]

Don't think there ever was a BoF X-Trail

[pulsar granite]

the original X-Trail was something else

[stoic ledge]

This was the 1st X-Trail

[pulsar granite]

yeah we had that in Canada when the USA did not

wikipedia says 2005 and 2006

[stoic ledge]

The new X-Trail is on the same platform as the new Outlander

I think the first X-Trail was from 2000 of 2001?

[pulsar granite]

also in 2006 Nissan got in shit with Canadians for making fun of Newfoundlanders and using a Cape Breton actor to play the Newfie in question

[stoic ledge]

[pulsar granite]

this is roughly like using a Scott to play someone Irish, to use a European frame of reference

[stoic ledge]

[dense shard]

They used a Canadian to play a Scotsman in Star Trek

[pulsar granite]

yeah and his family's from Northern Ireland

I'm surprised there weren't riots

(I love how the Scottish guy is somehow named "Scotty" too 😆 )

[stoic ledge]

Mitsubishi also made a small hatchback with Smart

[pulsar granite]

ah yes, the fourfour

for four

damnit

[stoic ledge]

Although the Smart was such a poor seller they discontinued it after 2 years

ForFour yes xD

The 2nd gen ForFour was a Renault Twingo xD

[pulsar granite]

Canada also got the ForTwo like two years before the USA

we got it with the diesel

some diesels were sold in the USA but it was a weird 3rd party import process, and they never properly sold them there until they switched to the gas engine

[stoic ledge]

Oh yeah the amazing 0.8 CDI, 3-cyl diesel

41hp

[wispy cloak]

I worked on a boxter this morning

Zero compression across all cylinders

[stoic ledge]

[wispy cloak]

[stoic ledge]

That's German engineering for you

😎

[wispy cloak]

She's blowed up good

[stoic ledge]

drives of in his German GM car

[wispy cloak]

Had to do a compression test from under the car

It got so hot that it melted coil packs

And probably warped everything

[pulsar granite]

we only had the 61 hp one, but even a 61 hp motor attached to a single-clutch automatic nightmare transmission on a highway here is practically just deciding "yeah I want to get crushed into scrap by a pickup"

[wispy cloak]

Also did you know that you have to disconnect the soft top to get to the engine cover

Which is also under speaker box

Worse than an audi to work on

The last owner was quoted $20000-$30000 for a new engine

For a 22 year old car

[pulsar granite]

what trim level boxster was this?! you could just buy another entire car

[sudden pecan]

https://cdn.rage.dev/sociobiology-cattails-noneclipsing-aspises.png

nice yaris

[pulsar granite]

meanwhile in north america the yaris is a mazda 2

it looks like they've discontinued it but you could buy a really ugly "yaris sedan" that was clearly a mazda 2 that got into a corporate accident

"i'm sad i'm a fish"
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/2017_Toyota_Yaris_iA_sedan_in_Blue%2C_front_left.jpg

[stoic ledge]

Hmmm our newer models got the 40kW = 54hp, no 61hp :(

[pulsar granite]

looks like the last year for them was 2020

oh yeah when the second gen fortwo came out they just ditched the diesel here entirely and went with the 1.0 turbo gasoline

oh gross I might've been wrong about 61 hp, that was a gas engine number. we had the 41 hp diesel.

[wispy cloak]

Probably not very high

It was a manual though

My automotive instructor is the one that owns it now

He got it for free

His friend has an engine for it

[pulsar granite]

0-100 km/h on that diesel fortwo in "maybe, how windy is it?"

well a manual boxster engine swap sounds like a fun project

[stoic ledge]

We also got a 3 cyl, 0.6L Turbo

xD

[pulsar granite]

I was in France in 2017 for a couple weeks on vacation and I saw an Aston Martin Cygnet

what a dumb car

[stoic ledge]

Toyota IQ

[pulsar granite]

yeah we had that as a Scion iQ

I've seen like five of them ever

it didn't help they cost basically the same as a Yaris and were worse in almost every way

on the other hand I was in the Renault store eyeballing the Twingo and I thought it looked awesome

this guy

meanwhile across the street at Peugeot

[stoic ledge]

iQ also sold poorly in Europe, positioned higher than the Aygo but no one cared xD Aygo (+ sibbling) was way cheaper

Latest Twingo also didn;t perform as expected

Sad as it's RWD

Modern Peugeot's look great

[pulsar granite]

that's half of why I liked the idea of it, a new manual rwd econo car sounds like fun

just without being as soul-crushingly tiny as the smart

[stoic ledge]

There was even a turbo version of the Twingo... Turbo manual RWD

Also that's literally the 2nd gen Smart ForFour xD

[pulsar granite]

when the 3rd gen smart fortwo showed up here in Canada at the car show I was trying to open the "hood" (the front panel) to see what was in there and I discovered it wasn't hinged like a normal thing, but instead had a weird panel that popped off and I couldn't reinstall it properly 😆

it was held on with a canvas strap

[brittle totem]

They are very common here in Sweden basically the only Mitsubishi swedes are willing to buy for some reason. But I think they changed the name to Eclipse after 2020.

[wraith rivet]

I didn’t even know a Mazda 2 existed until you said it

[pulsar granite]

the second gen mazda 2 sold decently in canada, i'm not sure you could actually buy the newest (third gen) as a mazda in north america though

the mazda cx-3 is a slightly lifted mazda 2 with awd though

they reallllly should have called it a cx-2, because then they could have called the cx-30 the cx-3

[brittle totem]

This is Mitsubishi whole line up of cars in Sweden as of 2022.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah no the Eclipse Cross is a different model, but basically same, it was a car you could drive for free and later for basically free as a company car for a few years

[pulsar granite]

I am jealous of all the Volvos you have over there

[stoic ledge]

Can anyone spot the free company car years?

[pulsar granite]

oof

lol

[stoic ledge]

Volvo ❤️

[pulsar granite]

I have owned a 1987 740 Turbo, then a 2004 S60 2.4i, a 2005 S60R, and a 1991 940 Turbo

my parents had all sorts (got the 740 Turbo from them), they have a 2015 XC70 now

[brittle totem]

0-100km/h = Yes

[pulsar granite]

pretty much anything over 10 seconds is asking for trouble in North America

that one's like... 16?

[brittle totem]

Classic Porsche 😀

[stoic ledge]

My dad had a 360 GLT, crashed it xD Basically the hot hatch Volvo of it's time

My brother had a 2015 V40 diesel but sold it as diesels get bullied by the government, thanks VW

[brittle totem]

Yeah for that price you could a get way newer boxter and probably nicer one too.

[pulsar granite]

we never saw the 300/400 series here, I do like a 480 turbo

I love how crazy they look

[stoic ledge]

My dad even worked at the 300 series assembly line

My cousin had a 480 Turbo

Nice car

[pulsar granite]

my uncle was stationed in west germany in the '80s, they had a really ugly looking 344 😆

[stoic ledge]

300 wasn't the best looking... also originally designed as a DAF

Especially as a sedan with the automatic it was really an old people car

[pulsar granite]

I have a photo of it somewhere, they had towing mirrors on it too, it was really goofy

I don't know why anyone bothers with a sedan version of those small cars (like, why anyone would want one instead of a hatchback)

[brittle totem]

Yeah they where very popular as company here in Sweden mostly because it was one of the cheapest if not the cheapest plug in hybrid that you could get at the time. Witch means that "benefit" tax was basically at 0. Nowadays the rav 4 has taken its spot and is one of the best selling car for private buyers and as company car too.

[pulsar granite]

like just look at the dumper on this stupid versa sedan

[brittle totem]

Yeah we have them all (:

[pulsar granite]

V90 is now factory special order only here 😦

we stocked them for one year

[wraith rivet]

I had an outlander phev as a rental car in New York once and it was really cool

granted it was like a 2018 model and not the highest end model but it was nice still

[pulsar granite]

I would love a small polestar hatchback someday

[deep zealot]

Todays episode of no hesi

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1018678165369008188/1027966680103661608/trim.5FAB13EF-7DFF-46B9-B297-F1332E1C2393.mov

[brittle totem]

But the sad thing it that the only Volvo that private buyers get is the xc40 the rest is just company car and has been like that since they become so expensive after Geely bought Volvo back in 2010.

[brittle totem]

So you can't order a new one anymore in Canada ?

[brittle totem]

Diesel is still very popular in Sweden it has outsold "gas" cars over the past 6 years and 9 months.

[brittle totem]

And here is an list over all of the different Volvos models that we have in Sweden.

[stoic ledge]

Idk that was just a thing of the time... I mean, even some hatchbacks were a sedan back then, like this Kadett D: the glass doesn't open, just the bottom part

[pulsar granite]

you can, but it's an expensive custom order and there aren't a lot of options you can choose from

[stoic ledge]

Yeah so as a company car you could drive them with 0% tax, a.k.a free 🥲 (same with later EV's in like 2019, hence the Model 3 was popular then but sales dropped like 90% since)

[pulsar granite]

everyone buys XC60s or XC90s so they stopped stocking the big wagons

[stoic ledge]

If I was buying a 70+k car, I'd definitely want to spec it myself lol, no stock car for me

Most cars here are built-to-order, especially for private owners

[pulsar granite]

that's fair enough, and I'd be fine with that, but built-to-order is really weird in north america for some reason

something something dealerships

[stoic ledge]

For company cars it's often some special Business Edition with limited options, so most are in stock (in normal conditions)

[brittle totem]

Volvo doesn't have that many options anymore you can choose from between 2-4 different trims depending on model. And color and rims and that's basically it.

[stoic ledge]

It used to be like 50/50, last year diesel sales were like 2%

[stoic ledge]

They recently renamed their trims to garbage names

[stoic ledge]

They didn't really get more expensive after the Geely purchase... they did "ditch" the cheaper models like the V40. The replacement of it, in the shape of the XC40, is lik 10k more as it's an CUV and apparently that warrants a 10k upcharge

All CUV's are basically priced as a car from the class above

[pulsar granite]

yeah I'm not a fan of crossovers

the closest I'd drive myself is the "lifted wagon" type

[stoic ledge]

I want a low wagon

:)

[pulsar granite]

my parents have the 2015 XC70 T6 middle-of-the-range model, it has parking sensors and rear heated seats and stuff but doesn't have the bigger screen. I think they would've gotten the V70 if it was actually available...

[stoic ledge]

Volvo V60 or Opel Insignia (Buick Regal TourX without the cladding) is on the top of my list

[brittle totem]

The company car drivers over here still got to pay for them but it was like 50% less sometimes even more then a similar fully gas powered car. But nowadays the have removed the tax benefit for plug in hybrids completely and you only get lower tax on fully electric cars. So specially the sales of new Volvos has gone down a lot but Tesla sales has gone up a lot. And all other evs too.

[stoic ledge]

But with the current car pricing I won't get another car

[pulsar granite]

I'm not a fan of automatics but with the polestar tune that thing kicks butt

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I see that a lot on other market cars, here sat nav + big screen is basically always standard. Also often as they first start life as a company car, and that's inclused in the Business package

[pulsar granite]

the big thing for me is comfort, the seats in every modern volvo I've owned are amazing

[brittle totem]

Yes they did get more expensive a v60 is the comparable model to the v70 and the base price an v60 is like 45k€ and a nearly fully loaded v70 used to be like a 40-45k€

[stoic ledge]

The company still pays for the car, but usually a driver has to pay a tax based on the value of the car to use the company car as a personal car... and for PHEV's that was 0% between 2013-2015 and for EV's that was 0% until like 2019 🥲

[stoic ledge]

✨ inflation ✨

[stoic ledge]

Yeah, + the styling is just great

[brittle totem]

How is the T6 a middle of the range engine isn't the T6 the top engine for v70/xc70 ?

[stoic ledge]

No trim

Not engine

[pulsar granite]

they only sold the XC70 with the 3.2 and the T6 here

[stoic ledge]

Mid-spec equipment

[pulsar granite]

and the 3.2 was only in the cheapest ones

[bitter compass]

With a lot of imagination there is no inflation

[stoic ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375461451403624471/977217293035651144/IMG-20220514-WA0000.jpg

I miss the V40

😢

[pulsar granite]

I'm mad the V40 never came here at all

[bitter compass]

I miss boxy volvos

[pulsar granite]

I wanted a T5 C30 manual, but they only sold like three of those where I live

[bitter compass]

Had... more charm

I gotta say to modern volvo

They're pretty especially polestar

[pulsar granite]

for some reason all the C30s in Canada were ugly too, gross colours and almost none of them got the R-Design body kit

[stoic ledge]

"Our" V40 had R-Design

[pulsar granite]

when my S60R was written off I was looking at an S40 T5 AWD R-Design, basically a "baby S60R"

but it sold before I could go look at it 😦

[stoic ledge]

Oh a friend of mine has an S40 T5, I think it's FWD tho, Polestar engine tuning on it

2010 or 2011 model iirc

Manual ofc 😎

[pulsar granite]

my neighbour has one, it might even be the exact car I wanted to buy

same colour, transmission, engine

I see it in the parkade and go "damnit man I wanted that"

[brittle totem]

True but the inflation in Sweden wasn't that before covid hit. And the prices of the v60 was still way higher the the v70 used to be.

[pulsar granite]

Volvo has been moving up-market to justify their lower sales quantities, simple as that

it's pretty much impossible to get a European brand in Canada with cloth seats unless it's sold as some weird "eco friendly" option that costs more

[pulsar granite]

nice

this is my S60R before a deer rearranged its face like 6 hours later

[brittle totem]

Very nicely spaced for a d2 most of them are just base models in Sweden.

[pulsar granite]

if anyone looked at the D2 here they'd just laugh, like "wtf a luxury car with 118 hp come on"

[stoic ledge]

Still 1%/year is over 10% over 10 year... I don't think it's really gotten way more expensive

[stoic ledge]

Most Dutch models are alright, you basically can have it 2 ways: very cheaply specced (but with sat nav) for those who couldn't really fit it in their company car budget but still wanted it... or well specced 😎

[pulsar granite]

10.5%!

[stoic ledge]

We remapped it to 170hp 😎

[stoic ledge]

Yes 😛

And the average is probably more than 1%

[pulsar granite]

the thing most people don't care about is where it gets 4.5 L/100 km

[brittle totem]

Here in Sweden they seem to be very common with the r design package but for some reason the all have the d2 engine. Seems like a weird choice engine on a small "sporty" coupe. https://www.blocket.se/annons/sodermanland/volvo_c30_d2_momentum_r_design_ny_servad_drag/104118162

[pulsar granite]

anything under 10 is all the same to most folks here (which is stupid)

yeah this is what a T5 looks like usually

nasty grey-green, dark body cladding

those are S60R wheels on this used one, factory wheels were ugly too

[stoic ledge]

V40 D2 and D4 sold well here as diesel was still 🥳 back then... and they emitted just 88g/km with a special gearbox and eco tires: Volvo made a special trim just for NL, and they sold a lot of them. Sadly diesels now are considered 🤮 , it drove really nice and it was very fuel efficient but it's taxed like crazy which didn't make financially sense to keep it anymore. And next year, a new test for diesel will come for inspection, and apparently like half of the Euro6 diesel Volvo's fail the test... so it was time for it to go

[pulsar granite]

like yuck

[stoic ledge]

Lol a T5 with those wheels

That's something you only find on base DriveE or Kinetic versions or something with the 1.6

[pulsar granite]

to be fair that's a winter wheel kit

but this is what most US C30s looked like...

[stoic ledge]

For winter on the V40 we had 17" Mannan

Which didn't look to bad on an R-Design

[pulsar granite]

mannan is alright

[brittle totem]

Yeah and they are focusing on the premium market to which you can clearly see on how they new ones are designed compared to "old" ones. They just look more expensive and classy compared too the previous generations of Volvos.

[stoic ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375461451403624471/889108513039740959/IMG_20210919_124651.jpg

I quite liked the looks of it on an R-Design V40, didn't expect to like it ngl

[pulsar granite]

my 940 turbo had hydras

[stoic ledge]

[pulsar granite]

and even in 2015 I still had all four hubcaps 😆

[stoic ledge]

I just run summer tires all year long 😎 (it's the white hatchback in the top left)

[pulsar granite]

running all-seasons all year round is an asshole move in Edmonton, 'cause you're the one holding up traffic

proper summers is just asking for trouble

my STi came with summer-only tires and for like all of fall and all of spring you don't know if you're going to be able to get out of the parking lot on the way home

it can be +20 in the morning then -3 and snowing on the way home

[stoic ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375461451403624471/935529571271454770/IMG_20190201_072558.jpg

This is snow here... like once a year

Not buying winter tires for that

[pulsar granite]

I went to high performance all-seasons in the summer, and I still use winter tires

[stoic ledge]

Best here would probably be summer tires for the summer and all season for the winter

[pulsar granite]

you could probably do those nokian all-weather tires in the winter

[charred depot]

I was laughing at my friend running his wide semi slicks on the roads here temporarily, rained a bunch...

aquaplaning 24/7

[pulsar granite]

they look like a regular all-season got 1/3rd of a winter tire stuck in it

[stoic ledge]

That's probably already overkill for here lol

[pulsar granite]

nah, it gives you sipes for when there's a tiny bit of snow and the rubber stays softer in slightly lower temperatures

[charred depot]

winter tyres are needed here but alot of people just take the L on not being able to drive some places for a week or two.

[pulsar granite]

it's kinda like +7 C or higher is summer, -7 and higher is all-season, below -7 is winter

see, here, those people just drive anyway

[charred depot]

cant even get out my street

[pulsar granite]

meanwhile, me in my subaru sti with 3 locking diffs and winter tires... pull away from the light, two seconds later I'm like "wtf where is everyone" and I see them all back at the intersection spinning their tires

[charred depot]

its funny seeing people try and scary when they come down, a few years back someone came down jumped the kerb and hit my neighbours car

[stoic ledge]

Below 7 is like never here, hence my suggestion summer for summer, all season for winter :)

[charred depot]

cars indeed

[stoic ledge]

Hell, probably best to drive off in the morning with all seasons and switch to summer in the afternoon

[pulsar granite]

every time it snows here it's like a circus act for two days until people remember how to drive in the winter

like it doesn't happen every year, multiple times a year

[charred depot]

alot of people clattering into kerbs

[pulsar granite]

I've hit a curb once, it was in the 740 turbo when it was still my parents' car

they only had winter tires on the rear 😐

this was before I knew that was a horrible idea

[stoic ledge]

Some woman crashed in to the electicity box at our old house/street... we lived at the bottom of a slight hill back then, and at the bottom there was a corner, and on the other side of the corner was the electriciy box

No electricity for hours tho 🥲

[charred depot]

my friend only runs winters on the front wheels but his are ofcourse FWD

[brittle totem]

Volvos emissions isn't that great I think they are one of the worst brands in 2022 emissions wise. "Volvo Cars among Europe's worst climate offenders Carbon dioxide emissions from new cars in Europe increased last year to the highest level since 2014. It is the second year in a row that the emissions curve is going in the wrong direction. Three car brands stand out as the worst climate offenders and had the biggest emissions increases last year: Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Volvo"

[pulsar granite]

there's a few houses on roads with bends in them here. perfectly level road but apparently it's too hard to drive at a slight curve on a 50 km/h road... both have warning lights now, and one has a massive boulder because they got tired of rebuilding their fence

[stoic ledge]

I only run winter tires on my spare

[charred depot]

pretty much unstoppable in his 305 compared to all the NPC traffic :^)

[stoic ledge]

Just kidding, I don't have a spare tire

[bitter compass]

Damn i could never imagine not having winter tires

[stoic ledge]

2019 👀 Well most back then were still just ICE, now they've got plenty PHEV's and even EV's (X)C40 Recharge

[stoic ledge]

I had winter tires for zhe Corsa.... sold them

[bitter compass]

Tbf im also scared for life since my mum had a pretty bad accident because someone drove around here and hit us because well summer tires + harsh winter sucks

[pulsar granite]

yeah I think Volvo was busy developing their BEV/hybrid stuff in 2019

so they were just running older combustion engines to the end of their lifecycles

[stoic ledge]

If our climate was different I'd get winter tires, but it's so not worth it for me

Last time we needed them was in 2010

[bitter compass]

Actually made her stop driving for like 20 years

[brittle totem]

In Sweden it is illegal to drive with summer tires during a set period each year. Which is between December 1 - March 31. Doesn't Canada have a similar thing ? or are you allowed to drive on summer tires during winter.

[bitter compass]

I literally had to teach her driving again last year because she needed to

[pulsar granite]

it's only illegal in Quebec

which is fucking insane, it should be illegal everywhere except maybe Vancouver/Victoria

[stoic ledge]

Damn March 32

I think in Germany it's "illegal" to drive on summer tires in icey/snowy/... conditions? Correct me if I'm wrong ( @bitter compass 🙃 )

[bitter compass]

I actually don't know

[stoic ledge]

[bitter compass]

Im automated to have winter tires from October to eastern

Because well alps

[stoic ledge]

Makes sense

[bitter compass]

I think minimum is you get the blame if you crash, and illegal could be

[pulsar granite]

I watch the weather every year, if the highs are below 7 for more than a few days in a week or if snow is sticking, I switch

[charred depot]

Honda Jazz infront of me today just blew through the speed check at 40 in a 30, common jazz L

[brittle totem]

We hade like barely 1c during night like last week here in Sweden. So not that long until its time to switch to winter tires again.

[bitter compass]

It could just be like speed limit, you can drive 250kmh but if you crash into someone you're responsible or at least partially, if you drive 130 then its fine

[stoic ledge]

It was 18 here today :)

I'm still walking around in shorts and t-shirts xD

We didn't even put on the heater in our home

[pulsar granite]

personally I think Canada should have a 'winter driving' certification on the licenses, and if a region declares winter driving conditions you should get fined for driving without the certification

[dense shard]

...

[pulsar granite]

even just basic shit like "don't floor the accelerator if you're stuck" and "steer around stuff instead of laying on the brakes until you hit it" would be awesome

[dense shard]

That's not really possible in Canada

[brittle totem]

The t6 and t8 recharge was stilly pretty common in Sweden at that time.

[dense shard]

Considering it's about as car centric as the US

[pulsar granite]

i mean if you're making that argument, everyone should just get free licenses

why make testing or knowledge of safe operation a barrier at all?

[worthy mango]

can yall help me with my lon capa

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603054769568874509/1028054525862482030/unknown.png

[stoic ledge]

Sure, but also still plenty of other vehicles/drivetrains, and it was probably very different for basically any other market except Sweden, NL and maybe Finland? Also, if it's an article from 2019, data is probably from 2018, which was only the T8 in the XC90 since 2014 and the XC60 since 2017

[pulsar granite]

not to mention the T8 was the most expensive one

there wasn't really a "cheap" hybrid

[stoic ledge]

Lol just fill in the formula's

[brittle totem]

that's so stupid I guess that there is a lot of stupid accidents then if you are allowed to drive with Summer tires during winter. And the insurance company's cant be that happy when the need to pay for it.

[pulsar granite]

it is as stupid as it sounds, yes

[stoic ledge]

Due to emissions tax it was barely more expensive as the regular petrol version here, like a 3k difference

So most were T8's

[brittle totem]

Yeah its illegal to drive with summer tires before that or after that if it is "winter condition" on the roads like icey or we get snow early or late witch happens sometimes. We got snow in Stockholm in early may last year.

[viscid vault]

Finland recently removed the obligation to use winter tires, it's now up to you to determine if conditions require them. It's just stupid.

[brittle totem]

14c will be the peak for the coming week. northern Sweden will probably get their first snow in like 1-2 weeks.

[stoic ledge]

Nights cool down apparently 😛

Similar weather forcasts tho xD

[charred depot]

basically the same here but add in constant rain

[stoic ledge]

[brittle totem]

Well no heater for us during winter that will be fun. because the electricity prices will be insane this year during winter.

[charred depot]

thankfully im an avid cold enjoyer

hate summer even though we only really get a rare high of like 23C, none of my cars have AC so beh

[pulsar granite]

at least in Finland driver's education might actually give you enough information to figure out what winter conditions are

[stoic ledge]

Oh yeah we will need to put it on, but we haven't yet :)

Also, our electricity prices are way worse :)

Like everything is way worse here

[viscid vault]

You'd think so, but every year we get headlines how "winter surprised drivers" .-.

[charred depot]

year do go by fast : )

[brittle totem]

Yeah we need to go and practice on a skid track in Sweden to even be allowed to take you licenses. Weird that Canada doesn't have a similar thing seems like only the Nordic/scandinavian countries have that as mandatory course.

[pulsar granite]

here you can go to a small town, get your license at age 16 puttering around on some local roads in the summer, then maintain your license for 64 years without ever driving again and buy a 40 foot motorhome age 80 and take it through downtown Vancouver or on a mountain highway

I have been having some medical issues and I had to give up my license a few times. Just got it back recently (after waiting like 8 extra months, thanks covid)

the people who tested me initially at the rehab hospital said "yeah just go do a driver's test again and you'll be good to go"

then they called me back later and said "oh you don't actually need to redo the road test, AND WE RECOMMEND YOU DON'T DO IT BECAUSE YOU MIGHT NOT PASS"

like what the fuck, if I don't pass, shouldn't I not be allowed to drive?!?!

[brittle totem]

Volvo still doesn't over a cheap hybrid option it all just T6 and T8 which is the the top engines. Or I guess the T5 in the xc40 is a bot more accessible for the "average buyer" but you can only get it as FWD.

[brittle totem]

And in Sweden the "benefit tax" for company car driver where like 25% cheaper on a fully loaded t8 then a base D3.

[brittle totem]

Yeah the insurance companies wont be happy with that. Doesn't Finland have a similar course that we have in Sweden when you get to drive on ice and get to learn how important winter tires really are.

[brittle totem]

We haven't gotten to that time of year in Sweden yet.

[charred depot]

basically a constant heh

another reason I like older french cars, basically impossible to aquaplane

[brittle totem]

Oh we get up to 33c in Stockholm during summer and I hate I am just sweaty 24/7 and nights when it doesn't get colder then 20c are the worst.

[charred depot]

id just die

[stoic ledge]

Only +33 🥲

[charred depot]

my BX turbo diesel pretty quick car is on 165's

quick by my standards anyway

10 second 0-60

[brittle totem]

Our electracy bill for February this year where like a bit over €1000. I cant imagine how high it will be during the coming winter this year.

[viscid vault]

Yup. Wet metal if it's summer. I think it's more about learning car control than "why to avoid it" :D Which might not be that helpful with getting people to take proper tires seriously (no amount of skills help if you set off with summer tires and end up on snow. Those reduced traction training conditions don't really prepare you for that, but I guess people think it does)

[brittle totem]

Reminds me of this classic Swedish video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBtrEZpa6OQ

[charred depot]

so classic its gone

[viscid vault]

I hadn't seen that one :D Nice

[stoic ledge]

As far as I have heard, electricity in Sweden is currently ~€0.28/kWh? Depending on the provides it's 3-4 times that here

[viscid vault]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYhOhJm7Njg

[stoic ledge]

Unless my intell is wrong

[charred depot]

about €0.36 here in scootland

[brittle totem]

Yeah that's an legendary one😀

[stoic ledge]

€1.03479/kWh during the day 🥲

Also gas €4.63/m³ 🥲

[charred depot]

just leave :^)

[stoic ledge]

Probably cheaper to run a diesel generator

:)

Although we still have a fixed rate, + solar which cover our usage so we're good 😎

At least for this winter we are 😎

[charred depot]

I need to get a turbine that doesent require planning permission

[stoic ledge]

Turbine

[charred depot]

wind will be more reliable than the sun here

[stoic ledge]

Don't think I can get a turbine here

Will probably get more solar, and then when it's viable a battery

But for now that's not viable yet

[charred depot]

I can get electricity for free anyway : ) just not at home

will just need to get a big battery

[stoic ledge]

My parents pay for it so it's free anyways

[charred depot]

where my unit is the connection to the grid is owned by us

old mine

[feral reef]

Oh god

[brittle totem]

29,84 öre/kWh during it peak where I live today. Which converts to €0,024/kWh.