cars

[brittle totem]

Most often you get a Daily fines witch is based on you income. But you can loose your driver licenses to in the worst case scenarios.

[hoary pine]

So they actually have laws against drive when tired?

[brittle totem]

Yes why wouldn't it be its super dangerous thing to do.

[hoary pine]

How do they find out people that are tired tho?

[stoic ledge]

Smooth, more comfortable as the E91, but that was M-Sport which was too hard tbh, still needs to find a proper seating position tho, it is tight inside. Too tight for me ngl

[brittle totem]

Good question the probably follow the driver for a while and se how the person is driving and if they are "wobble" around in the lane witch you usually do when you are tired or drunk.

[fathom socket]

They cost like 100-200k euros

+cargo

[brittle totem]

Yeah and the cheapest cars on that ferry was like 250k and most of them where over 2-3 million before tax they are probably worth more now.

[fathom socket]

The ferry i was on iirc had 3 levels of just trucks and there were like 3-x the trucks per floor

+2floors of regular vehicles

[civic spoke]

How much trucks cost all depends on what trucks they are.

Normal tractors are fairly cheap.

[brittle totem]

Swedish emission tax logics Koenigsegg CCR 2005 2199 SEK per year. Volkswagen Passat 2021 8242 SEK yearly for the first 3 years and then 3744 a year.

[fathom socket]

Generally speaking it was like on avg 3 year old tractors with larger sleeper cab

[civic spoke]

A tridem Volvo FH with a hooklift and a decent crane can easily fetch towards the 4,000,000 kr mark. So like €400k

[hoary pine]

Doesn't seems effective but they tried and sent messages.

[fathom socket]

But it was a ferry to Ireland

[stoic ledge]

400k km, just broken in

[civic spoke]

Doing 475,000 km's in three years is honestly impressive.

175k km's each year.

[brittle totem]

How long does a truck usually last in terms of km ?

[civic spoke]

All depends on what it does. But if a company is buying new trucks for use. Then they generally just use them for about 6 years or so.

[brittle totem]

How long have the usually done before they get scraped ?

[civic spoke]

Not sure. Most of the trucks that I have driven have more or less all been below 500,000 km's.

And that's for like 10 year old trucks.

For the dump truck that I picked up off the lot with <100 km's on it. Then it had 50,000+ km's on it after 10 months.

[brittle totem]

Does that mean that those 2019 trucks for sale is almost done for already ?

[civic spoke]

I wouldn't say that. But many companies just don't like keeping trucks with too high of a mileage around. Extra servicing and the like.

[fathom socket]

it seems most of the truck had around that many km on them in my first company

around the same age

the one that I drove had almost 1 milion Km on it

but it old

[dusk ocean]

Dude I bought this game for my son and I to play

[stoic ledge]

I think it depends with those trucks, the ones you dee there were probably leased for 3 years or something, but often when companies actually buy them they use them for 10+ years, so 1.5M kilometers isn't that odd

But then they're often quite finished

[brittle totem]

But the 1er is m sport to right or was the m sport steering wheel not installed from factory ?

[stoic ledge]

Steering wheel is from the factory and is M-Sport, but the trim is a Sportline not an M-Sport. So it has the standard bumpers and standard suspension

M-Sport steering wheel is on the equipment list

[fathom socket]

they buy them out, but they use it for netherlands section of company

[stoic ledge]

Who?

[fathom socket]

Heisterkamp

They leaise trucks in poland then they buy for NL division

and they are usually in really bad conditions

[brittle totem]

Okay that's an unusual thing to spec from factory. How good is the fuel economy on the 116i ?

[stoic ledge]

They do many things apparently... See also leasing, rental, selling used and everything

[stoic ledge]

Probably also didn't like the stock steeringwheel Don't think it's a crazy expensive option, like 250€?

Fuel economy not sure, haven't refueled it yet

[fathom socket]

Never saw them in Italy, but I saw a rental truck there

[stoic ledge]

[fathom socket]

But when I was going trough Germany I saw a couple

I used to work there, it's not a bad company

But it's too much e weeks at work and I have to drive there 2000 km

[brittle totem]

Yeah that is the worst thing with my moms car the m sport one would have been so much nicer then this.

But at least we don't need to worry about the steering wheel getting stolen witch is kind normal thing for the m sport one.

[civic spoke]

The new BMW wheels are kind of meh.

Especially don't like the thicc boi wheels.

[dusk ocean]

tasty

I honestly think of all the german cars, BMW has the best wheels. Mercedes second, Porsche/Audi last.

[brittle totem]

In my opinion all the non m sport steering wheel has been kind of meh on all of the BMW generation until this day.

[dusk ocean]

oh sorry

steering wheels, im a derp

[timber oar]

I mean you were close you were on wheels at least 😂

[civic spoke]

I like the rims on my E46, at least.

[dusk ocean]

I need to replace the wheel in my E30

its standard lamer 4 spoke

[dusk ocean]

I like the wheels on my wifes X1, they're sick

[civic spoke]

Those are 'old' X3 rims. 👌

Got them from someone who sold them for €200.

[civic spoke]

And then I just slapped on some PS5 tires on 'em.

[dusk ocean]

Nice

on my e34

on my f30

Going on my E30

E34 steering wheel 🙂

[stoic ledge]

Luckily this one has alarm class 3 so hopefully no sequel to the E91 story

[severe geyser]

E39/e46 msport moment

[dusk ocean]

nah

E46 M3

[severe geyser]

Ahh, I didn't see the stitching. I have the same wheel in my e39 with black stitching

[dusk ocean]

Yeah is actually a CSL wheel

[brittle totem]

Here is the factory rims for my moms f45 i guess they are decent for a non m sport car.

[severe geyser]

Did not know that. I'm new to bmw, I've had old shitty Toyotas for years

[dusk ocean]

they look like 13s lol

[dusk ocean]

Yeah I had a 330 ZHP/Sport wheel

and when I figured out it fit, I bought a brand new OE E46 M3 CSL wheel/trim

[stoic ledge]

Sport Line I think

[feral reef]

I wanna get these wheels for my ND https://blog.demon-tweeks.com/performance/first-look-team-dynamics-pro-race-lt-wheel/

[dusk ocean]

I just ordered this for my E30

[brittle totem]

Hopefully not but 2 BMW 330 f30 got their steering wheels stolen like 1km from where I live and both hade the factory theft alarm.

[brittle totem]

Yes it has the sport lines package/trim. and I guess those are the standard rims them. Because a 67 year old Norwegian guy would probably not pay extra for bigger rims.

[dusk ocean]

My F30 is a sport line, it has 18"s that are not terrible, but they only just fit over my BBK

[brittle totem]

Don't mind the mud google maps decide t hat highways is for peasants and muddy gravel roads are the better choice ended up driving for like 20 mins on that road only to be stopped buy a roadblock at the end.

[severe geyser]

Like factory

[dusk ocean]

M Performance BBK

So 370mm

stock m sport is only 340mm

"M Sport Track brakes" were 340mm i mean

[brittle totem]

So those rims are factory Sportline's ones ?

[dusk ocean]

Yes Style 397

on F30

Stock brakes under those were typically 312mm, boo

[severe geyser]

I did break work on a pre lci f30 with the smaller breaks and that thing stoped pretty good so that has to be fucking nuts

[dusk ocean]

Yes it is ridiculous

It's a 14.5" rotor

There rears are 345mm lol

[brittle totem]

Looks really good for factory Sportline's I thought that those where m sport wheels.

[dusk ocean]

Those are the stock sportlines

[severe geyser]

Yeah I had a base rotor car in my shop and that thing grabbed harder than I expected for doing a pad slap on cheapo material for a lease return

[dusk ocean]

Yeah they brake really well

The weirdest part about putting the brakes on was that I had to code the car for it. Apparently the ABS module has a bias valve, etc. that adjusts based on the package/etc.

Prior to coding the car for the brakes the pedal was super mushy even with proper bleeding

Coded the car, right back to normal. Super weird.

I guess it's so they don't have to have separate master cylinders like the older cars didd.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I think those are the standard Sport Line wheels for the 2AT

[brittle totem]

This is probably the ugliest rims I have seen on car that has been an optional one for a extra cost. And the sales man at Volkswagen recommended those to my dad when he was specing out his new company car.

[stoic ledge]

Not a fan no

[severe geyser]

This is my project, and having a big sedan with tiny breaks with ceramic material instead of semi metallic it does not like to stop as. Being I'm manual swapped so I can just clutch in helps but man I need big breaks

[dusk ocean]

Here I am building a 2500 lb car with like 450 rwhp lol

[severe geyser]

Most cars do, even the electric assisted ones. It's just cheaper and less complicated

[dusk ocean]

Well these aren't assisted electrically, they're still hydraulic, but there is a variable programmable proportioning valve

[brittle totem]

And they where pretty expensive to I think they where like 16995 SEK to and the ones that he ended up choosing was included with the r line exterior package and they look so much better to.

[severe geyser]

4000lb and maybe 400hp because im doing nothing besides slapping bigger injectors on it, a gte head gasket, whatever turbo I get and an apexi neo if it has scary afr's 😂

[dusk ocean]

fat boi

[severe geyser]

That's actually sick

[dusk ocean]

my E34 has about 900 rwhp and comes in around 3450

[severe geyser]

Jfc

[dusk ocean]

But it has 14" wilwood 6 pistons on it

[severe geyser]

I was gonna go off the walls with my gs but I kinda lost the motivation for it so I'm just gonna slam it into a wall at a drift event at a track near me

If it survives long enough make turbo jz noises

[dusk ocean]

lol

yeah i care too much about mine

[feral reef]

ugh yeah, those looks terrible

Mazda has something similar as an upgrade, also very ugly

ewhhh

2.2 k for that

Could get BBS wheels for 1.3k

[severe geyser]

I've had awful luck with my car so I'm like eh. I had a tick when I bought it first jz kicked a rod through the block, 2nd one was a junkyard motor that was overheated to failure before I got it and I couldn't tell, 3rd one car chucked a ball joint and it's been 4 months and I have not touched it

[charred depot]

"Building" the saab to have 300hp

[severe geyser]

All of this while still being na

[charred depot]

Fwd peels

[severe geyser]

You scare me

[charred depot]

It feels like a supercar to me with its 130hp

My daily driver is an old diesel with 50hp

[severe geyser]

I drove a 9-3 5 hours for my buddy, he has probably the nicest saab I have ever seen but there's nothing about that car that screams yes this is a good@platform

[charred depot]

Og9-3

Like the NG900?

[severe geyser]

Actually no I can't say that, the v6 turbo has the power band of an ls while having 2 less cylinders

[charred depot]

Ah later one

[severe geyser]

It's the gen after I think, the weird cobalt one

Yes

The bump steer in that car is insane

But holy shit does it haul ass for being a gm econobox with just a tune

[dusk ocean]

I worked for a Jaguar/Saab dealer in highschool - Saabs are garbage

[charred depot]

B204's a great engine though

[dusk ocean]

but you need to put the car in reverse to remove thekey

and the key is.... at the shifter

[charred depot]

tragic

[severe geyser]

What

[dusk ocean]

its all so fuck

[charred depot]

I like it, means I dont have to leave my key in to unlock the steering

then leave the unit without the key to re-enter said unit

[severe geyser]

Yeah the center key absolutely fucked me up

[dusk ocean]

its horrid

[charred depot]

I dont really see any disadvantages to it

[dusk ocean]

its just typical for saab

no reason to fix that

[severe geyser]

It's goofy as fuck, that's all I got to say about it

[vocal mural]

Very known truck rental company from Oldenzaal

[charred depot]

I like it though, my mum would always ask if my car is in gear but in this case im like "I literally cant have the key if its not in gear"

[severe geyser]

I like parking out of gear so that would drive me insane

[charred depot]

I dont see why you would do that

[severe geyser]

Fuck it we ball

[charred depot]

We had a neighbours toyota corolla coroll our fence down due to a handbrake failure

corolla was fine

[fathom socket]

I used to work there

but mostly from Gent tho

[severe geyser]

I like to tempt fate, I also park on flat ground most of the time

[vocal mural]

Have you also worked for Rotra/Keuhne+Nagel (Doesburg), Mainfreight ('s Heerenberg), Rabelink (Wehl, Doetinchem) or Gesink (Zelhem) @fathom socket ?

[severe geyser]

I'm also an ape, I just drop the clutch after I start the car

[fathom socket]

I worked mostly for UK companies

and ireland

[vocal mural]

Until Brexit or still?

[fathom socket]

after brexit

I mean clients that do UK

[charred depot]

when I had 2 cars at home parked like this I did the first and only start in gear mistake

didnt hit luckily

[fathom socket]

caffrey international, BMW, DHL, AGI global

they gave me a truck with 16k km on it

[vocal mural]

Dachser?

[fathom socket]

I only did these

that livery makes the truck look like it's from early 2000's

[vocal mural]

Never heard of AGI and Caffrey

[fathom socket]

I see a lot of them in Germany

alltrough their HQ is a disaster

then I have moved to Italy and worked for 2 companies, but didn't really go that great

[opal jolt]

Breaking: apple car to have 70kWh battery, 307 mile range, 0-60 3.7s, 350kW charging, start at $65,000

[severe geyser]

Park on hills in gear only become, ungovernable

[charred depot]

often had cars with fucked handbrakes

[vocal mural]

I have only worked for 2 days at a transport company (Transmission) as a sorter. I hated it

[fathom socket]

here's the trailer I had from them

[charred depot]

My friend with a BMW had his like backplate break under the pressure of the handbrake shoe springs causing chaos inside his disc

[vocal mural]

Photo stolen somewhere

[fathom socket]

~~stolen from some poor chad on deviantart ~~

this one has a funi name

[severe geyser]

Funny enough I've had working handbreaks in all of my manual cars. Every car with an auto I've had has had fucked handbreaks

[charred depot]

I wore the saabs down trying to fit in with the RWD cars in winter

[stoic ledge]

Suus

Old Focus pic tho

[charred depot]

i30 actuator rusted solid despite being used

[fathom socket]

it's sadly long gone

[vocal mural]

My salary specifications, really bad payout

€44 for 1 day

[severe geyser]

In the us we have a trucking company called SWIFT, and there's a joke that swift is an acronym for see what I fucked up today because they are always crashed

[vocal mural]

@fathom socket

[severe geyser]

I believe it, snow sucks

[fathom socket]

I've been paid more or less at the lasty company

[charred depot]

noh its great

[severe geyser]

I hate it

[fathom socket]

Heisterkamp paid even less

[charred depot]

roads are empty here when it gets really bad so if you have winter tyres you can have it all to yourself

end up backwards into a ditch never to be found for 2 weeks

[vocal mural]

By the law, a worker should have a minimum wage of €10,13 a hour

[fathom socket]

by law in italy the minimal wage in Italy is 1800 euro per month for truck drivers

they have been underpaying me

[brittle totem]

Yeah the ones that he choosed was way better for no additional cost. They are a bit dirty right now but you chould get the point.

[feral reef]

Yeah, much better

[severe geyser]

I am the opposite, I live near nyc. So people usally still have to go to work and such when it gets really bad and people start getting stuck and you just end up with more traffic. New York and New Jersey drivers get more impatient the closer you get to the city

[stoic ledge]

@brittle totem the fuel consumption according to the car is 8L/100km But idk how accurate that is

[brittle totem]

In my moms 225i xDrive the average consumption is like 7,8l/100km since she bought in January last year.

[charred depot]

my saab is up to like 14l/100km 🗿

No long journeys in it since I got the 305, just the B road to the unit.

it gets like 7.5l/100km if you drive it smoothly at 50mph

[brittle totem]

This is the lowest i have ever achived in my dads car. But I dont trust it that much becuse it is still a Volkswagen.

[charred depot]

I need to start recording fill ups in the 305

I know it sips fuel because I do hundreds of miles and barely ever fill it

[feral reef]

I've averages about 6.2-6.4l/100km over the past 6000 km in my ND

Can do 5L/100km if I don't hoon it every chance I get

Best I've done in a one hour mixed road drive was 4.8L/100km

[stoic ledge]

Yeah so idk how accurate it is, we'll see soon enough, it came with half a tank of fuel 🤑

[charred depot]

I also need to fix the odometer / speedo in the 305 for that heh, but could use my GPS speedo recorded distance.

[stoic ledge]

If it's 8L/100km it's a lot worse than the Volvo but ofc diesel

[feral reef]

the odometer is broken? lol

[charred depot]

speedo cable got lost in the dash when I replaced the engine, not bothered to reinsert it

You just listen to the sound of it spinning to know how fast you are going

[brittle totem]

Good thing is that my dad doesn't pay for diesel just the distance that we drive it privately and it converts to around 1€ per liter in fuel cost for him privately because his policy is super outdated and is from when he git his first company car in 2008.

[charred depot]

my dad used to have a fuel card shite at his old job

and a lovely gold mk3 mondeo, ages ago

[brittle totem]

Yeah my dad has the same thing but he just need to pay a little more tax to be able to drive it privately but its still super cheap compared to buying a car privately.

[charred depot]

I do find it funny how the 305's nasty diesel exhaust is pointed right at people on the pavement.

no chill

[brittle totem]

Not the case with the new Passat it twin fake exhaust on both sites witch looks really bad and the real one hided under them.

[brittle totem]

From factory to ?

[charred depot]

sort of, mine is tilted a little more as im missing an exhaust hanger

If we drove on the wrong side of the road it would be alright

[fathom socket]

Beautiful

[feral reef]

Hell yeah

It's a bit of a dream of mine to have an Impreza with the SWRT livery

[fathom socket]

Yeah

It’s even a first gen left steering

Those are pretty rare

[charred depot]

I have a first gen impreza :^)

I hate it

going to sell it to someone for something cheap like £500 just so I dont have to deal with the type of people that would want this.

[brittle totem]

But it is a French car they always need to make everything different but not in a good way. Like the "new" Peugeot 3008 who thought that this was good idea.

[charred depot]

theres nothing really quirky about the 305

my saab is quirkier than my 305

only quirk that has every made me go beh is the impreza having the indicators on the right side

[feral reef]

Spaceship

I like it

Except for the steering wheel area

Everything here I think is stunning

Okay that is a weird place for a start stop button

Couldn't you accidentally press that whilst driving? 😂

[brittle totem]

That's the problem for me with that design the steering wheel is way to low. And the instrument cluster looks like it will block a bit of the driver visibility.

[brittle totem]

Maybe it came out before Peugeot started to do a lot of things differently then the other car manufactures.

[feral reef]

I love the sabretooth headlights on new Peugeots

[charred depot]

All the peugeots I think about arent really quirky but I dont care for anything beyond a *06

its citroen that were up to stuff back then but even then most of that doesent bother me

[brittle totem]

I think you need to double press it force the car to stop while driving. At least that how it is on my dads Passat haven't tested it on my moms car yet but I bet its the same thing.

[feral reef]

mhhh interesting

I've never tried it on my car, and I won't 😂

How do your parents feel about you trying that on their cars 😂

[brittle totem]

I did it at very low speed at empty parking space just to know that happens when you do it they dont mind it at all as long as I do it in a safe way. Basically what happened in the Passat is that it just engages the electronic parking brake and stops.

[fathom socket]

I like it but its on an suv so I'll pass

[brittle totem]

I wouldn't call the 3008 a SUV can you even get it with AWD ?

[civic spoke]

And it's available with AWD as well.

[brittle totem]

That's what in the manufacture calls it but in my opinion its more like an mpv. Volkswagen even calls the t-cross a SUV

[civic spoke]

I think they just call it a Crossover.

[brittle totem]

That is correct but manufacture likes to call their crossovers for SUVs instead because they sell better then. The only real suv Volkswagen has on the market right now is the Touareg. But they like to call the T-cros,T-roc,Taigo,Tiguan,ID4 and ID5 for SUVs to but they all are crossover in reality.

[fathom socket]

if its phat, ugly and overly tall its an suv

doesnt need to have 4wd for that

[civic spoke]

Yeah. AWD/4WD isn't a requirement for a SUV.

[sinful tendon]

In North America this used to be exactly true in the era of 4Runners, Land Cruisers, GMC Jimmys and Blazers, but nowadays the slope angle of the rear window seems to be all that stands between a Crossover and a SUV, not that I think it's right but from what I can see that's it...

But what you posted would make more sense because as it is, a Mitsubishi RVR and a 4Runner are both SUV, yet they have fundamental differences.

[brittle totem]

Not a stupid idea at all here is video of me using it my dads Passat with the high beam on at all time and it didn't blind anyone. it was still pretty bright outside but you will get the point and you can clearly see how the lights changes to not blind oncoming cars or even cars in front of me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbcjdAljTVo

[feral reef]

Did I share the video of my car blinding people here?

Yes I did https://discordapp.com/channels/375436620578684930/375461451403624471/1016733093845016616

[brittle totem]

Does it have adaptive led matrix or just normal auto high beam ?

[feral reef]

It's the dumber of the 2

The low beams are "smart"

But the high beam is just on off

[fathom socket]

the key part being that it tries to not blind people, doesnt mean it's always gonna work 100% effectively

[pearl tiger]

just dont be lazy lol

[fathom socket]

exactly its just an excuse for people to keep their high beams on at all times

[stoic ledge]

Yeah as the Hybrid4

So the PHEV

AWD is just a rear electric motor tho

[feral reef]

Yeah you don't know until someone flashes you, and good chance people are blinded but then it corrects quickly enough to stop them from flashing you, but they were still blinded

But you won't know

[stoic ledge]

Modern Mini's with LED's look like they have high beams on when it's just low beam

Doesn't matter, I get blinded, so they get my high beam back

[charred depot]

techmology

[feral reef]

yeah the facelifted ND with the upgraded headlights has that too

[charred depot]

Still not as bad as people putting LEDs in old cars

My only proper "road rage" incident

[feral reef]

Context?

Actually another interesting thing my lights do is they light up signs next to the road

[charred depot]

called a kickup its existed for years :^)

[feral reef]

Just like a quick flash to light up the sign

[charred depot]

~2010 golf with LED shite following me

you can see his lights literally lighting up the air around my car

[feral reef]

ahhhhh

Yeah I was wondering what was up withthat

[tepid wing]

Does anyone know how the MAC works on Toyota security?

[wispy cloak]

Welp somebody hit the dakota while it was parked today

I exchanged info with them but now I need to chase down the insurance company for time lost

I have nothing to tow my trailer

So now I can't work

[magic crow]

thats horrific

[fathom socket]

laser headlights

i guess

hard to tell on video, but in real life it's easy for me to see if anyone has laser headlights

[wraith rivet]

damn

i like those dakotas they're cool

[wispy cloak]

sad thing is that the insurance is probably going to total it and undervalue it

[hoary pine]

They probably would go like "we will give you enough money to buy a similar thing on the market, if you think yours worth more give us some proof."

[sinful tendon]

You thinking of getting it fixed?

[hoary pine]

What happens when a car was "totalled" is the estimated cost of repair are more than getting a similar thing from the market so the insurance decided just give you what the whole thing worths (in the market), usually minis what the remains would still worth or take the remains themselves.
If you insist to repair they would just give you what they think it still worth and you pay the extra.

[primal pelican]

hyundai nvision74 running

[midnight sequoia]

Looking for some advice. I'll be getting my driver's license soon (finally. Lol), and I'll be looking for a car for myself. What kinds of cars should I be looking at, and what amount of money should I expect to need? For reference, I'm located in Alberta, Canada

[hoary pine]

It largely depends on what kind of person you are and what you expect from your car.

[primal pelican]

what money you should expect is a completely wrong question, it should be "what would be best for the amount of money i can spend"

[brittle totem]

Seems to work pretty well no on blinked on me for having the high beams on and you litterly se how the lights changes when driving behind a car or pass uncoming cars.

[stoic ledge]

@brittle totem the F20 also has the phone holder in the center console

[brittle totem]

Is it for a phone that came out 5 years before the car or something that was new while the car was being sold. My moms has an iPhone 4 holder and the car was made in early2015 so the iphone 6 would have been the newest then.

[stoic ledge]

Ngl haven't looked that closely to it... My brother already put some crap on top of it. But I think I was the 30-pin connector, so probably iPhone 4

[sinful tendon]

With car prices currently high but parts prices pretty much tge same as before, I'm thinking it'd be better worth fighting them on the totalling since I expect them to open a book, look up Dakota, and offer a price he'll never afford an equivalent truck with in this economy.

Bob make sure you list every.single.feature this truck had i side and out to get the most out of them.

But part of my point was also that this look fairly repairable to me and I would definitely try to have it fixed.
New knuckle, ball joint, tie-rod, and sway bar link.
Fender.

Brake line.

[hoary pine]

Yeah, if their estimated market price too low and you can provide proof (might need to find an adjuster) the offer can be adjusted.

[wispy cloak]

I am 100% getting it fixed

I cannot get another one of these

They are too rare

[fathom socket]

man

2 weeks and the head didn't arrive

[stoic ledge]

[lone fern]

well shoot i done doordinged a car

working on finding the owner of the car

luckily it’s at school and they have a parking permit so someone can look up the permit number and tell me whose car it is

[stoic ledge]

[wraith rivet]

Smh

[lone fern]

wind blew the door into it

luckily it’s just a scuff so it’ll buff out

[timber oar]

Ding the other side and it'll match

Nobody will know

[vocal meadow]

not the most flashy, sporty, or high end but the first NEW car I ever bough my 2022 Ford Maverick Hybrid

[night current]

Congratulations!!! Great looking truck!

[vocal meadow]

Thanks! got a few months back but just joined the discord and still love sharing it (also know not many of them are in the wild just yet)

[fathom socket]

I swear to god the mini keeps getting new scratches every time I drive it

hitting a particularly dense cloud of midges clearly caused it

[feral reef]

I love the wheels

[stable grotto]

YO congrats man thats aa huge milestone, looks great! enjoy

[lone fern]

lmaooo yea I talked with the person who owned it, they don’t care and i gave em 50$ for the trouble

[feral reef]

You got off well then

[deep zealot]

@pallid sky E39 M5 or E46 M3 and why

although you seem like an E60 guy

[brittle totem]

Who doesn't want to have a v10 with a manual gearbox in their family car. I still don't understand why it was only available in north America and not in Europe we only got the one with the automatic transmission.

[civic spoke]

E39 is the better daily out of the three. Probably.

[deep zealot]

Yeah the manuals are just crazy rare here

[brittle totem]

Yeah the e60 is the opposite of reliability specially the EU version of the M5.

[brittle totem]

We didn't even get a manual m5 e60 that was an north America exclusive. So the ones that are manual are either manual swapped or imported from north America.

[deep zealot]

I would have it DCT swapped

Issue is it’s still hella heavy

[lone fern]

I did, luckily it should rub out with a good wash, I lucked out big time that it didn’t fuck up the paint or dent it

[brittle totem]

And unreliable and not that nice if you are planning of daily driving it of what I have heard from people that owes the e60 m5 or have driven one.

[feral reef]

I had 2 French people ding my car, both nowhere to be seen when I got back to the car

[deep zealot]

It’s not that unreliable just need to do TBAs and rod bearings

And get rid of that crappy SMG

[feral reef]

Only 1 of the dings rubbed of sadly

[brittle totem]

Oh i meant the SMG transmission and not a DCT one.

[dusk ocean]

So I realized my new speakers. the baffle of the speaker is taller than the mount, so putting my kick panel over it could result in the surround of the speaker rubbing the kick panel....

[deep zealot]

Someone put the S85 and a DCT into the E46 M3

[lone fern]

aww that’s unfortuanate

[deep zealot]

https://youtu.be/fHPAUnz68XQ

[feral reef]

This cleaned up without a mark

[lone fern]

I’ve seen people ding my car but mine’s a rolling pile of crap so I didn’t really mind, just asked for an apology

[lone fern]

wow

that’s pretty big lmao

[feral reef]

This hurts

They rammed that one hard

went straight through the paint

[feral reef]

Yeah, was horrified when I first saw it

[lone fern]

jeez

[feral reef]

But gladly I think it was one of those plastic trim pieces that hit the car

I guess that's what they are for

[lone fern]

i knew that people in paris were bad at driving/parking but wow

that’s good at least

[feral reef]

In general they are terrible at it, especially in the Marseille area

[lone fern]

mine’s made of steel so it takes a bit of force to do anything

[feral reef]

50% of their cars are literally held together with duct tape

[lone fern]

lmaoooo

it sucks that it can happen truely randomly pretty much

one gust of wind and wham

[bitter compass]

That's such a small ding but its gonna rust if you ignore it 👀

[marble stone]

Peugeot 405 my beloved

i really want one of these things as a first car

if not then the next option is either a 406 or a 206 RC

[fathom socket]

Get a 405 dope as hell

[feral reef]

Yeah I know, thanks for reminding me though, just ordered some touch up paint

[marble stone]

dont know how cheap they are over here in the uk, il have a look though

[pallid sky]

e46s are the most fun of the 2... but the build quality and chassis issues make it hard for me to be interested

so.... e39 m5.

[deep zealot]

Nice choice

I like both but they’ve got their own weaknesses

[errant shore]

Hi jake

[deep zealot]

the rod bearings of the E46 and Vanos kinda puts me off

S54 was a hell of a screamer though

[errant shore]

Agreed

[pallid sky]

the engine issues are easy to fix at least

try subframe cracking, strut top cracking

interiors that fall apart

[deep zealot]

Yeah with the E39 chassis rust issue

[errant shore]

My grand father put diesel into his bmw kinda dying now

[pallid sky]

its not that bad, maybe if car was parked aside its whole life

[errant shore]

Or my salt water

[civic spoke]

Matt Farah was basically told to always check the rear subframe with each oil change.

[deep zealot]

That would be a shame then. They’re both really fun to drive

The V8 in the E39 and the E9X M are the only two V8s from BMW I really like now

Their i6’s are where their engineering is strongest and it showed with the M54/2 and N52

And then the turbo phase came along and changed the entire game

[errant shore]

Tbf its from 2001

But only 95k km on it

[deep zealot]

Honestly the introduction of the S58 changed the game for modern 6 cylinders

It seems every manufacturer is downsizing their performance engines for efficiency

I’m not a fan of AMGs 2.0L 4 Cyl

[pallid sky]

you cant check it properly w/o pulling the subframe

[deep zealot]

the dream car is M3 GTR. Not as a daily but just for the driving experience

[errant shore]

My dream car is the 1969 Ford Mustang electric swapped

[deep zealot]

Oh no

[errant shore]

I just like the body

Looks cool

[deep zealot]

People who electric swap classic cars need help

[errant shore]

I mean like restore one with no engine ect

[deep zealot]

What’s wrong with the engine

[errant shore]

I wouldn’t ruin a perfectly good car

[deep zealot]

the car was meant to be driven with an engine not with a lifeless electric motor

[errant shore]

I mean if its just the body no engine

[deep zealot]

Just dump a bigger engine in it then

electric swapping is way more work than just dumping in another engine

[errant shore]

Yea? So? Electric is the way the world is going

[deep zealot]

Yes. Swapping electric into an old car just ruins it. Get a Tesla or something it would be cheaper

[errant shore]

But it doent look as cool?

[deep zealot]

Real performance driving is still done with combustion engines

[errant shore]

I just want an electric classic i dont care for performance

Fyi my dream non classic is an audi rs7

[fathom socket]

What would your guys dream 3 car garage be?

[errant shore]

The elecric mustang, audi rs7, audi q5

[fathom socket]

Just the two words electric and mustang in one sentence is so foul 💀💀

[errant shore]

Bro let me have an opinion smh

Fine audi r8 convertible, red, audi rs7 black and audi q5 gray

I like audi btw

[errant shore]

U?

[fathom socket]

For me a 1988 Toyota Supra Turbo, a bmw M1 and a bmw e30 for my dad

[errant shore]

Nice

I personally dont like bmw but they are still solid cars

[fathom socket]

Yeah the m1 kinda weird for a list like that cuz you shouldn’t drive such a super rare and old care but it’s just cool asf

[errant shore]

Yea

For a daily what would you drive?

[fathom socket]

The mk3 Toyota Supra would be my daily

Just my dream car over all

[errant shore]

I mean not in the list just a good, low fuel consumption car

[fathom socket]

Maybe a bmw 540d

My dad has a g31 really cool car

My family kinda always been a beemer family lmao

[errant shore]

Honestly my daily would be th mx5

Such a cute lil car

[fathom socket]

What version?

[errant shore]

2022

[fathom socket]

Yeah the nd is cool asf

[native belfry]

I daily a 1985 Mercedes 190e and it's a ton of fun

[fathom socket]

190e‘s look so good fr

[errant shore]

Yea someone at my work has an emerald green one in immaculate condition

[native belfry]

I put the AMG style front bumper , and it's been lowered. I put the 16 inch wheels off a similar year car to fill in the gap

It's also manual swapped

[fathom socket]

You see a ton of them here in Germany but the majority of them are super dirty and rusty cuz the most people that drive them are old as hell

[native belfry]

Mine is taxi yellow lol

[fathom socket]

Dayum

[native belfry]

Oh in Germany a manual mercedes is nothing special

here in America it's a unicorn lol

[errant shore]

You see a shit load of them back in South Africa

Theres 6 just on my old road

[native belfry]

There's a lot of South African users in my enthusiast groups

[errant shore]

Lol

[native belfry]

If only shipping wasn't so expensive we could share parts to build our own unicorns

[errant shore]

I like this colour

[fathom socket]

In general bmw and Audis are so common here Germany like almost every 4th car is a beemer here. Was so surprised many Americans consider bmws as Luxury cars lol

[native belfry]

In Britain I beleive the engine sizes are much smaller generally than USA, so the 2.3 is rarer in Britain than USA. But manual trans is reverse popularity

[errant shore]

Same in South Africa bmws are too common

Wrong reply srry

[native belfry]

No worry

[errant shore]

Also the amount of landrovers in south Africa

[native belfry]

@fathom socket All Euro cars are marketed as luxury here. I assume it has to do with import taxes making them very expensive generally.

[fathom socket]

Kinda sad that euros are so expensive to maintain everywhere else around the world

[native belfry]

I think it's just the perception. I work on my own cars and own all nationalities. They all have their pro's and cons.

Book time and parts cost are about the same unless you're shipping from Europe or Japan

Also I guess I'm forgetting new cars exist

I'm a weird car guy dont listen to me as anything more than an "armchair expert"

[fathom socket]

I hate how the jdm hype boom has affected the car market like a na miata with under 150k km is way over 6k

[errant shore]

Who else wants this

[native belfry]

Korean car market will likely follow suit. Grab your G35's now before they're 15k

[fathom socket]

Yeah like the gt86/frs/brz still seems new to me even tho they came out in 2013

[fathom socket]

I actually really like Hyundais mindset on cars rn

[native belfry]

I was at the LA auto show in December and was very impressed with the new Hyundai Optima. I've never considered myself a Hyundai fan, but they had the best feeling manual trans that day.

[errant shore]

Grab a toyota century

[native belfry]

I want a Century so bad. Every since that Throttle House video

[errant shore]

Ikr

[fathom socket]

Like they don’t go with the trend of making all shit electric and expand development in internal combustion

[errant shore]

Im sorry but the new dodge is shit

[fathom socket]

fr

[native belfry]

I perceive Hyundai in a similar light to Toyota's racing development team. They just wanna go fast

[errant shore]

Either be an electric car or a gas car dont try and emulate one

Toy sounding exhaust ass

[native belfry]

Yeah the fake exhaust noises are always a disappointment

fake exhaust tips too

[fathom socket]

Yeah it’s kinda like the sound emulation with bmw just mich worse

[native belfry]

Like the new Toyota Tacoma pipes in V8 noise when it's only a v6. Like c'mon just own it and let the engine sing! I know many a V6 that are worth talking about

[fathom socket]

I swear to god so many „sportsy“ cars have massive exhaust tips but the actual pipe is tiny

[errant shore]

Just like every modern suv

[native belfry]

Looking at you Mercedes

[errant shore]

Volvo is fine

Volvo good

Buy a volvo

[fathom socket]

My neighbor has a 960 rotting in front of his house and it drives my crazy

[errant shore]

Steal it

[native belfry]

I drove an S60 recently and loved it!

[errant shore]

I drove the xc60 yesterday

[fathom socket]

Only thing I don’t like what Volvo did is limit their speed to 180kmh on all cars :/

[errant shore]

Why u going over that?

[fathom socket]

Because it’s fun?

[errant shore]

Quit racing a non racing car

[brittle totem]

Well i am from Sweden and I have newer driven a volvo yet. Maybe its time for me to that.

[fathom socket]

200kmh ain’t ain’t racing

[native belfry]

gotta go fast

[brittle totem]

But who is racing in volvo anyways.

[errant shore]

Exactly

[fathom socket]

Ooooh of you would know

[native belfry]

I learned to drive in a Saab !!! XD

[fathom socket]

There’s a ton of people who rally Volvos

[native belfry]

Also learned how to smoke and drive in a Saab 😛

[errant shore]

I learned to drive in an audi prolly why im such a fan

[fathom socket]

I think in general I don’t like speed limiters in cars just kinda feels like wasted potential

[errant shore]

Yea cuz you cant break them

[native belfry]

I am not a fan of speed limiters unless there's a valid reason. Some high performance cars go to a tuner shop that beefs the engine but doesn't touch the brakes or suspension.

[errant shore]

More power needs more breaks

[fathom socket]

Also rev limiters like cmon bro

@brittle totem Jesus how long are you typing

[brittle totem]

Yeah. My brother and some of his colleagues where testing their new parts witch they are developing for latest Porsche 911 generation on the turbo s at work. And he said that you felt that the car could handle a bit more but it just stopped att 330km/h becuse of the speed limit. But to be fair driving at that speed is probely no a good idea if you are not on track or a airstrip.

[native belfry]

oooo what is he developing? 👀

The boys at singer Porsche are just a mile down the road from me and I’m always seeing them test new toys. I might have been egging them at the red light by revving 😅

The ducktail wing has DRS and he was just flexing on everyone making it go up and down

I like to think that in my head we're friends because I always warn them of speed traps when I pass them. My ride is restored and I drive quick, it's hard to miss me lol

[brittle totem]

Mostly silcon hoses intercoolers, oil coolors and radiators and they are model adapted and spacially made for the plattform of course. If you want to read more about them they are called do88 Performance.

[native belfry]

@brittle totem That sounds cool, I wanna overheat a porche lol

for science

[brittle totem]

And they are selling specially made parts for the only fully swedish car manufacture thst still exits. You can probely guess witch company it is.

[native belfry]

Koenigsegg?

[charred depot]

Getting some do88 stuff for the saab

[wild tiger]

koenigsegg loves to use ford truck motors

[civic spoke]

Didn't they just do that for the first CC8S cars?

[native belfry]

I didn't think about engine production, now I must look into Volvo's engine platforms lol

[civic spoke]

After that I'm sure it was all their own engines.

[charred depot]

get me a discount on a do88 intercooler myes

[wild tiger]

the ccr also uses a ford

[charred depot]

I would be tempted by the do88 intercooler but id have to cut my nice NG900 bumper and I want to keep it discrete

[wild tiger]

shares motors with Continental

[feral reef]

That’s what I’m doing, very doable

If you’re tiny, and you don’t need any boot space 😂

[wild tiger]

this thing

[native belfry]

They almost used a Motori Modern based Subaru engine for the original CC

didn't realize that the original Koenigsegg CC were made in 1994

[wild tiger]

ford put the 3v of that motor in the explorer

bc every mom needs a mustang gt powered suv?

[native belfry]

Well it weighs like 5000 lbs or 2200kg you need that much power to move the thing lol

[wild tiger]

its 4400 rwd 4800 4x4

[native belfry]

I think we're splitting hairs lol

[wild tiger]

also beats a convertable v6 mustang

tho the v6 mustang of the time was sad

[native belfry]

I was about to say the exact same thing

[wild tiger]

the v6 escape is faster

i own a v8 explorer and its aways fun to take out lifted trucks at a stop light

the 0-60 (0-100) is 6.6S

[native belfry]

That's pretty quick for average non-modified cars

My 190e does 0-60 in 11

[wild tiger]

and being a box

its down to having a 6 speed transmission

[native belfry]

Yeah transmission makes or breaks a car

[wild tiger]

also that the 4x4 is shiftable

so its got 100% rw power

[native belfry]

Do you offroad?

[wild tiger]

kinda

[native belfry]

Niiice

[wild tiger]

mines more road setup than anything

but i have done a few trails

[native belfry]

I have a $300 chevy cobalt I wanna put big wheels on and rally it lol

reason #1293854 to learn to weld - to put a roll cage

[wild tiger]

have fun with it being fwd

and maybe being LSD

[native belfry]

open diff

[wild tiger]

weld time

[native belfry]

It's a $300 It'll be ok packed surfaces and auto-cross

fwd is easier for beginner drivers

[wild tiger]

the explorer if it wasnt so tall would be good at that

big v8 with a 4x4 TF

[native belfry]

put big off road tires on it and send it

send it 6 feet off a ramp, and fix what breaks, and do it again

[wild tiger]

someone put a 7.3 in a explorer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEZY3MCD6MU

[native belfry]

There's a guy in a crown vic with a Coyote motor in it lol

he drives around my town lol

[wild tiger]

5.0c is a common swap for 3rd gens

they take the 10r100 and 5.0c from a f150

and its bolt in

[native belfry]

I play with dinky lil 2.0 4 bangers lol 5L seems like infinite motor

[wild tiger]

i cooked the one car i had with a i4

the front sub frame left it

with motor transmission and suspension

[native belfry]

lol sub frame has left the chat

[wild tiger]

take a guess on the vehicle

[native belfry]

Ford Fiesta?

[wild tiger]

nope

not american

[native belfry]

190e? lol

[wild tiger]

is that even fwd?

[native belfry]

No didnt know

it's rwd

Uhhhhh a fiat 500?

[wild tiger]

my hint is its related to a Snail

[native belfry]

S-Cargo?

[wild tiger]

its related to the scargo

being its replacement

[native belfry]

Idk

[wild tiger]

NV200

[native belfry]

I've never seen an S-Cargo irl

[wild tiger]

this nugget

[native belfry]

I'm trying to think if I've ever even seen one before

[wild tiger]

its more french the the Scargo ever could be

its powered by a 1.6L french i4

[native belfry]

I think there's a Tesla service truck that's one of those

[wild tiger]

also has a CVT

[native belfry]

Well isn't this car right in the middle of the Nissan and Renault and Mitsubishi getting married?

[wild tiger]

yep

[native belfry]

hahahah

[wild tiger]

build quality

lower than a 90s ford

my 98 ford had everything working

this didnt even have working heating

or doors

passenger doors didnt open

[native belfry]

LOL the French did the mechanical work, and the Japanese did the designing. Top Gear already made that joke tho

[wild tiger]

it was my work van

till the motor was like im out

[native belfry]

aight imma head out

said your motor

to the chassis

[wild tiger]

my boss tried to get me to drive 60mi

with the motor held the body by gravity

[native belfry]

boss, you say the trip will take 60 miles, but the engine will need to take 61 miles to get there

[wild tiger]

the body hit the the wheels so it didnt move more than 2mph

so that makes my sold killed owned 1 ford one nissan one ford

[native belfry]

solution:

[wild tiger]

its fwd

so id have to push it

[native belfry]

LOL

[wild tiger]

its a pile

i kinda wanted to buy it for 250 usd

but i wouldnt have been able to get a trailer to pull it

stupid uhaul hating explorers

they claim the hitch can pull the bumper off

that is impossible as the hitch is a part of the frame

and the bumper is on the body

[native belfry]

I have an issue with cheap cars.

I bough my 3rd car today. I now own 3 cars. It was $600 with a new motor

[wild tiger]

i want a second beater

[native belfry]

2005 Chevy Aveo

absolute shitbox

[wild tiger]

bc the 17 hwy isnt good

was thinking a 2006 escape v6 awd

3500 for one

[native belfry]

my other shit is a same year Chevy Cobalt (I dont like chevy just coincidence) and that mf gets 35mpg hwy

idk man my budget for cars is usually less than $1000

[wild tiger]

i need rwd 4x4 or awd

[native belfry]

why spend money when you can spend time lol

Similarly, I don't have as strong of a preference for driven wheel type. However, I despise automatic transmissions. It's hot here in Socal, I choose to drive with no AC over automatic trans. I could easily just borrow my Dad's car, or a friends car, or uber. But I wanna play shifty

[wild tiger]

I like auto bc tc works with it

I do live were the road is ice for 5 months a year

[hoary pine]

People would pay ridiculous price for the BMW 1M here, especially black/white bc everyone went orange back then so black/white are extra rare.
Big part was for its among the dying breed of MT and MT only.

[wild tiger]

Also someone explain why anyone would buy a bmw?

They seem a lot more expensive to own next to a mustang charger or vette

[hoary pine]

Because too immature are just right?
JK aside, lot of people like BMW for their handling.
Not going to say that is the best, but they are different.

[wild tiger]

So apple of cars

think different, not right, different

[hoary pine]

If that is exactly what fits you then why not.
On other hand BMW tends to make the exact car people would sell their kidney for, as concept cars, and never release them.
So the few "just right" ones were highly sought after.

There aren't any perfect answers in terms of cars (many are outright wrong answers tho.) So people can like different things.

[wild tiger]

For me all the models I want have major issues

And the equivalent ford/Chevy are cheaper even after repairs

[hoary pine]

If you are mature enough to care about the cost of ownership then BMW are not for you.

[deep zealot]

Incidentally my parents have spent more maintaining their Toyota than I’ve spent maintaining my BMW

[wild tiger]

my parrents dont like me spending cash on my car

idk why

putting 200 a week would still be cheaper than a new car

[hoary pine]

200 a week aren't exactly low but that is pretty normal for cars.

[wild tiger]

this is also a 16y old car that hasnt been taken care of

im going to replace the heatcore lines this weekend

next weekend i will fix the steering rack leak

and under coat it

then i may fix the p0420 code

*the cats work but not 100% it still passes fed standards but not cali standards but im not in cali and dont smog test

[hoary pine]

Oh the price for cats are a bit too high now.

[wild tiger]

Cats are fine

they are like .2 of a point under

And triggering the p0420

Also my state doesn't test

[vocal mural]

🐈🐈‍⬛

[tepid wing]

The new Equinox doesn't look too bad.

[errant shore]

How tall are you?

[dense sage]

Dusty, but she's my new fusion tank - our roads are dirt with small chunks of tarmac

[errant shore]

Is that a ford?

[dense sage]

yes, its a Ford Mondeo mk 4.5 (aka fusion for the Yanks)

it replaced my mk 4 that got hit by a bus back in May, I have only owned it for a couple of months

[stoic ledge]

That generation of Ford Mondeo was never sold as a Fusion

Only the last Mondeo/Fusion was sold as the same car under their "One Ford" strategy, where they wanted to make one car for every market

They've since abandoned that strategy lol

Apparently different markets ask for different cars

[stoic ledge]

Ngl, this is the most 🅱️ased thing I've ever read

[fathom socket]

That’s the best thing if read today lmao

The only people that are more wrong and cocky about performance then Tesla drivers are jdm 12 yearolds 💀

[fathom socket]

Like no bro a Supra won’t gap a Huracan 💀

[feral reef]

1.72m

[stoic ledge]

Toyota Z4 / BMW Supra

Ngl they co-developed the chassis and their suspension setup is entirely different, so just calling it a BMW with a roof doesn't give it enough credit imho

I'd drive the manual 3.0 Mk5

If it wasn't freaking 100k

[fathom socket]

Yeah also the rear and front bumper don’t look anything like on the z4

[fathom socket]

Yeah for a 100k you can get a hellcat and ACTUALLY gap Lambos lmao

[stoic ledge]

Yeah no I can't Hellcat with emissions tax is probably 200k or something

[brittle totem]

Yes 😀

[stoic ledge]

Also, don't want to corner with a Hellcat lol

[fathom socket]

Boat

[brittle totem]

Yeah one of his collogues owns a 9-5 that is extremally tuned with their parts i think it has around 700hp right now. And the fastest car they the company owns right now is Volvo 850 way faster then that's golf gti mk7 and mk8 at least in a straight line.

[brittle totem]

People that is not from North America mustangs here is very expensive and more expensive the a a faster BMW. I would take a BMW M2 every day over a Mustang GT.

[wild tiger]

I'm in land of burgers

So the pony wins

[brittle totem]

Those 2 are nearly the same price and the m2 competition is faster in every single way and more fun to drive to. But in the us the mustang is very cheap right for the v8 model ?

[wild tiger]

In the usa a mustang gt is 38k

The m2 base is the same cost

[haughty ridge]

A mustang starts at 110k euro in the Netherlands lol

[wild tiger]

the mustang isn't much more than a speced Camry

And that's for a gt

@brittle totem ^

Basically its the price of a nice Toyota 4 door for the v8 gt

[stoic ledge]

Heh V8 starts over €100k here

Idk if it's even available anymore, maybe just the 4-cyl

[wild tiger]

my top spec explorer v8 was also 38k

[stoic ledge]

Oh yeah it is starting at a mere €108690

Mach 1 being €125k

[wild tiger]

Here the bmw starts at 38k

And goes up

[stoic ledge]

So Mach-1 costs the same here as an M3 of M4, ~125k

[brittle totem]

Didn't know that mach-e was this expensive fully loaded.

160k for a Shelby that expensive you can get a used Lamborghini Huracan for nearly the same price. Or a m4 GTS

[fathom socket]

The Mach e is so ugly 😭

[errant shore]

How well do you fit?

[feral reef]

Well enough, but it's not particularly roomy

[errant shore]

So i wont fit then fuck

[brittle totem]

Why didn't they call it just Ford mach-e and not Mustang mach-e if they continue like this they are going to "destroy" the mustang name and lagacy.

[feral reef]

How tall?

[errant shore]

204

[feral reef]

Oh my

Yeah, no chance

[fathom socket]

The Mach e doesn’t deserve to have written mustang on it. They literally just called it a mustang so it seems more „sportsy“

[feral reef]

Whilst I I agree they shouldn't have called it a mustang, it does share a lot of styling with the the actual Mustang and looks great imo

[civic spoke]

Seen one in real life? They aren't bad.

[brittle totem]

Yeah they are decent but they should not be called Mustang. They are way better looking the what Audi is offering with the Q4

[civic spoke]

Eh. Easy enough to just call it "Mach-E"

[fathom socket]

I don’t live far from a ford dealership, I know what they look like

[eager grove]

I like it

But not very space efficient

new VW IDBUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ is roughly the same dimensions and has literally 3x the cargo volume

[brittle totem]

Seems like that all of the legacy manufactures is struggling with make space effcient evs. Just compare the luggage space that model y offers compared to lagecy manufactures in the catogery.

[eager grove]

If they can make me a 7 seat, SWB, dual motor ID Buzz with 300 miles of range then I would be so happy

[eager grove]

True, but I don't think they're measuring the same thing. The Model Y definitely has the biggest boot, but I'm pretty sure it's counted differently because it doesn't have a parcel shelf

[lone fern]

the mach e should have been named the ford edge, a discontinued car that looks somewhat similar

[brittle totem]

It has now so I think they have counted with that.

[brittle totem]

isn't the Id buzz already completely sold out already ?

[eager grove]

Well sure but they haven't announced the various variants yet

[brittle totem]

Here is two variant you can get here in Sweden. One for personal use and one made specific for cargo use.

[brittle totem]

The normal version has range of maximum 422km with 5 seats.

[stoic ledge]

There's no 7 seater version for now

Also, after all the "hype" over the last 20 years, barely has anything more to offer than the Stellantis vans

[brittle totem]

But that cargo one seems very cheap compared on what is on the market right now a electric Mercedes "cargo van" with like 150km of range goes for like the same price but its a bit bigger.

[stoic ledge]

The passenger version is the 1st edition which has quite some features, cheaper trims will come later

Same was also with the ID.3/.4

[brittle totem]

Base id3 starts at the same price as 1st edition buzz cargo.

With the smaller battery pack to.

[feral reef]

Does the cargo version only have a single seat?

[bitter compass]

Two probably

[brittle totem]

They don't specify that yet most likely two it can be three like most cargo vans.

[bitter compass]

Id say the id3 is too expensive but a golf is already at around 35k € soo the 39k for a base model isn't that far off

[feral reef]

mhh, a lot of cargo vans over here only have 1 seat for tax reasons

[bitter compass]

Id buzz is just an electric transporter like the id3 is the electric golf

Nothing too special

[brittle totem]

Base golf is 25k but with the same equipment as the id3 base model its probably around 35k if you want it with 200hp engine.

Not here and why would the tax be less if it can transport less people it should be higher then right ?

[bitter compass]

Ye in Germany base golf is 30k sooo yeah

[feral reef]

Base Golf is 33k here

That's for the manual 1.0 TSI with 110hp

[brittle totem]

In Sweden it 25k with the 1.0 TSI 110hp.

[bitter compass]

Oh ye it starts at the 1.5 TSi or 2.0 tdi here

[feral reef]

How much is a base GTI or R in Sweden?

[brittle totem]

Around 36k

[feral reef]

lol

So cheap

[brittle totem]

But the wait time is probably 2 years.

[bitter compass]

Well getting a new car rn fresh from the production line is good luck with that

[brittle totem]

If you wait long enough you will get it but then golf 8,5 is probably released by the time you get it.

[bitter compass]

I assume the next update will come rather sooner than later in its life to maybe fix the interior

Vw knows people hate it, if they are going to do anything about it is a different topic

[feral reef]

What's wrong with the interior?

[bitter compass]

Softwarebugs and everything is touch, capacitive buttons, some elements not being lit

The bugs being the actual reason why people return them

You can get used to the not buttons and everything in the screen even tho its just the worse way of controlling stuff

[feral reef]

Ahhh

[bitter compass]

But the software issues they're having are apparently pretty bad

[feral reef]

I've never driven the 8, so not been able to experience that

[bitter compass]

Its not just the 8 its every related model

Transporter, caddy, SUVs (idk how far they're updated yet but if they arent it'll follow)

[brittle totem]

They have finaly fixed the infotamient lag on gold 8. My brother company has one as test car for their products. When it was brand new the infotamient was litterly useless for like 3 mins before it finally booted up probely. But the worst thing is that the climat controls has no lights behind them so you cant se them at all when it dark outside.

[bitter compass]

But the new polo which came out after golf got better buttons, and climate controls

So i assume they will work on that with a facelift

[brittle totem]

The golf R in Sweden is even cheaper then that.

[brittle totem]

They have already fixed that with the 2022 model year of the golf.

[feral reef]

haha

[feral reef]

Pain

[bitter compass]

Well climate control is still in a screen

[feral reef]

How often do you change climate control parameters?

The beauty of climate control it's set and forget

[bitter compass]

In winter quite often actually because of fogging up windshield

[feral reef]

That shouldn't really happen if you have climate control turned on

Unless you mean when you're getting into the car

[brittle totem]

That's more expensive then a M340I xDrive in Sweden. I avtully never knew that ice car was so much cheaper here then the rest of europé.

[feral reef]

Well I think it's mainly that cars in NL are stupidly expensive compared to everywhere else

Not that Sweden is particularly cheap

[bitter compass]

It happens especially if you have the car filled up with people and a cold day

[brittle totem]

It has separate touch climat controls buttoms under the screen to.

[bitter compass]

I just want the spinny boys back

[feral reef]

That's actually not too crazy, probably because it's a mild hybrid?

Saved a bit on tax

[brittle totem]

That's explains it i thought you where fron Germany.

[feral reef]

Bit like the Panamera, the higher end hybrid version is actually cheaper than the lower end non hybrid version

[brittle totem]

Same here penemera e hybrid basically has no annual tax here becuse of the hybrid battery that is only their to make car faster at acceleration.

[charred depot]

The second time i pay a professional to do car related work for me they fuck it up.

[stoic ledge]

[civic spoke]

https://youtu.be/Iyp_X3mwE1w

[brittle totem]

Here is how to tow the proper way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvZuSxibyYE

[civic spoke]

https://youtube.com/shorts/txT9Mc_cBFM?feature=share

[vocal mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7ipFApsFec

Fun to see DAF/Volvo reversing

[stoic ledge]

And that's how 95% of them died

[charred depot]

305 driving like a brhand neew cah with the new bushings

[tepid wing]

I wonder, would a reversible heat pump be more efficient in ICE cars? You wouldn't need the heat exchanger for the heater and you'd be pushing more energy into the cabin than you're using. I'm just not sure how much power routing the waste heat into the cabin takes compared to running a heat pump.

[feral reef]

I thought the routing of waste heat into the cabin was incredibly efficient

A reversible heat pump seems like an incredible waste of energy for a car

[stoic ledge]

Does your car get more efficient with the AC running? ;)

AC is basically a heatpump

[feral reef]

It is a heatpump right, just not a reversible one

ICE cars are heated by waste energy

[stoic ledge]

Engine heat is free basically as you need to cool it down anyway, so giving it to the interior doesn't cost anything

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[feral reef]

I'm wondering how electric cars are heated now

Probably just resistive heat?

Ahh seems like it's a mix of resistive heat and reversible heat pumps

Depending on the car

[stoic ledge]

Reversible heat pumps is mostly EV's

Sometimes optional

Ah you mentioned EVs, missed that

Back-up is resistive heating

Or cheaper EVs only have resistive heating

[brittle totem]

Most of them are using a heat pump and some older evs uses the motor in uneffcient mode to generate heat.

[tepid wing]

Yeah I just don't know how much effort goes into the routing, I suppose that would be super efficient.

I do find EVs with a unidirectional heat pump to be quite silly.

Most EVs just use a restive heater, which is dumb.

That's 1W of electrical power for 1W of heat.

You can use a heat pump to get 1W of heat from 0.5W of electrical power.

(They can be more or less efficient than that of course)

[sinful tendon]

Do we have two different units named watt for heat and electricity?

[tepid wing]

It's the same amount of energy.

[sinful tendon]

Well then the output can't be twice the input. Watt am I missing here?

[tepid wing]

You get the extra energy from the outside air.

[feral reef]

Heatpumps transfer energy

[tepid wing]

Just like with A/C, but you take it from the cabin and dump it outside.

There is still a lot of energy even when it's 0 outside.

[wraith rivet]

yep

[sinful tendon]

Oooh

[wraith rivet]

zero energy is when it's absolute zero right?

[tepid wing]

Yeap.

[wraith rivet]

nice

[tepid wing]

Though they stop being efficient at around -25 or there about.

[fathom socket]

just out of curiosity.
does the 3 litre VW have electric heater?

[tepid wing]

Highly unlikely.

[glad mantle]

I'll be taking this car home in a couple days

Wish I was able to take more video or some proper photos of it but I only had a couple minutes since we were short for time

Very excited to be getting an E39. It's been on my bucket list for a while and I'm hoping to keep it mostly stock, do a bit of restoration, and build the powertrain up a bit

[stoic ledge]

You mean the Lupo/A2 3L? Don't quote me on this, but I think they had an additional electric heater element besides the regular heating system, to heat up the cabin while the engine heat was kept for the engine to heat it up faster and reduce emissions.

[stoic ledge]

Keep it stock? Doesn't look stock to me

[sinful tendon]

It looks completely stock even cosmetically. It has a flashy paintjob and tinted taillights but that's it.

Congratulations @glad mantle , we don't see those in such good shape everyday.

Don't know about where you're from but over here blacked-out taillights are against the rules and are a cop magnet.

[drowsy depot]

did gus won?

[brittle totem]

Gus?

[drowsy depot]

gustavo fring

[fathom socket]

I honestly start fearing what that did to my car won't fix my overheating issue

[grave creek]

naw i rather talk motorcycles lol

[drowsy depot]

bikes are the best

[grave creek]

i daily ride a 2008 yamaha vstar 650

living in southern US has its benefits for riding

[drowsy depot]

nice

i need to get a higher grade license

[grave creek]

my boss laughs at me when i carry computer equipment between offices. i strap it either my cargo rack or to back seat

[drowsy depot]

but i wanna get a gixxer

[grave creek]

we don’t have license grades in the us for personal licenses only when it comes to commercial

[drowsy depot]

ik

[grave creek]

for us here in the states we take a class for 2 weekends. if we pass we get a certificate we can take to the dmv and get our endorsement

we do have to get certified to ride a motorcycle tho it’s roughly a 40 hour class

[deep zealot]

CBR600RR pull 😋

[drowsy depot]

here we need to go to a school and in the end u have a test and if u pass u get the license

[drowsy depot]

should go to 300km

[grave creek]

is it a school or a class that’s in a destination with a driving course?

[drowsy depot]

for all 600 superbikes

[deep zealot]

it’s in mph

and it’s a bike from 2008

[grave creek]

for us we have to do driving course and written test

but i’m glad it’s only 40 hours and not weeks

that’s my gear in the bag for when it is raining or if i have to care equipment between offices

[drowsy depot]

yes its a kindda school its a business u start at the training area and if u fell u good with it and the teacher approves it u can go to an open lesson like u can go for a ride in traffic and staff

[drowsy depot]

ik but 150 miles is like 240 kmh

[grave creek]

we don’t do traffic ride it’s all closed course

[drowsy depot]

its so u can feel how you operate in traffic

[grave creek]

yea we don’t have that luxury they don’t trust us

[drowsy depot]

lol

[grave creek]

atm i am trying to find a new battery charger for my bike

[drowsy depot]

but we start on auto and up to 125 bikes or 14.6 hp

[grave creek]

because of the electronics on it i have to maintance charge it over my weekend

ours are 250cc bikes

like the honda rebel

[drowsy depot]

but its not auto

[grave creek]

nope

[drowsy depot]

more fun

not auto

[grave creek]

we don’t do auto unless you want to be made fun of