cars

[wispy cloak]

There would be virtually zero gain from it

[gilded jackal]

Yup im also a small engine technician

Well learning

People on YouTube jerry rigged car turbos to lawn mower engines but you won’t achieve anything doing that.

The only way to make gains is to get higher rpm with those engines but then you’d have a ton more issues like extra heat and friction to worry about that those engines aren’t built for. So essentially you can’t exactly tune a lawn mower engine. You’d have to swap in a even bigger lawn mower engine, that’s the only upgrade.

[gilded jackal]

@fathom socket Saw a 280z parked on the road taking a bunch of beatings from the weather and the person put a huge not for sale sign on the back of it. Been like that years now. Hate how someone would rather see something wither away than sell it to someone that would bring it back into working order.

[fathom socket]

where

[gilded jackal]

In Trinidad

[errant shore]

Its a joke

[brittle totem]

Didn't know that you can spec a Audi a1 this low not even a infotainment system in a 2022 audi A1. Here in Sweden it comes as standard with the digital instrument cluster and in Spain you don't even get a infotamient at all in the base spec.

[brittle totem]

Its basically a base Dacia but with an Audi shell.

[stoic ledge]

In Germany you can also get it without an infotainment system

It's amazing

I spotted one for sale like that on Mobile.de, let me see if I can find it again

Hmm the add is gone, but here was the pic I shared somewhere else from it

It actually does have the digital instrument cluster

Has a radio tho as can be seen on the display, probably just controlled by the steeringwheel

Previous gen A1, you could spec it to 55k without ever selecting AC on it

[gentle heron]

That's a sign that you should buy a Škoda instead

[eager grove]

An A1 is such an odd choice of car for me--because I really want a bigger one, but my wife is learning in one and loves it

[stoic ledge]

Just get a Fabia, basically the same car

[eager grove]

Though I will say it's sort of odd that there is almost no demand for what americans would call subcompact luxury cars

it's basically a Mini or an A1

and you could maybe include the top end Polo

[stoic ledge]

I wouldn't consider any of those "luxury" tbh

[eager grove]

They sell plenty of Minis but Audi are ditching the A1

I didn't say they were

I said that's how they'd be classified in America

[stoic ledge]

Yeah, > 'Murica

[eager grove]

it's the luxury end of the segment tho

like it's relative luxury

[stoic ledge]

A1 Citycarver is even worse

[eager grove]

but there just isn't a lot of competition

[stoic ledge]

[eager grove]

Sooner have a T-Roc

[stoic ledge]

T-Roc has a really crappy interior ngl, basically Dacia plastics

[eager grove]

T-Roc has at least some actual advantages over a Polo though

[stoic ledge]

The smaller T-Cross has nicer materials

Which is very strange

[charred depot]

partsbin provides what it will provide

[eager grove]

It is really odd. Also VWs line up makes no sense

How do you have a T-Cross, a Taigo and a T-Roc

plus the T-Roc cabriolet!

It makes no sense

that's one size class

[brittle totem]

This is the absolute base spec here in Sweden pretty well equipped compared to rest of Europe.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah so the Taigo is basically a T-Cross "coupe" SUV, T-Roc is somewhere in a segment on it's on between the T-Cross and Tiguan without really any competitors

[eager grove]

How small is the friggin T-Cross though? Is it like Up sized?

[stoic ledge]

My sister in law had to get a T-Cross as a company car instead of the Peugeot 208 she had before, worse in every single way while costing more (24k MSRP vs 30k MSRP).

[stoic ledge]

No? Basically Polo CUV

[brittle totem]

Are your sure about that i have been in a t-cross and we hade a t-roc loaner and that care felt way better then the t-cross quality wise.

[eager grove]

I thought that was a TRoc though

[stoic ledge]

Yes and no

The line-up is very strange

But it's ~Polo sized

T-Roc is between a Polo and Golf

[eager grove]

Like the T-Cross and T-Roc are both roughly polo sized CUVs

[brittle totem]

Its like a polo but in a crossover chassi so very small.

[eager grove]

The TRoc makes sense to me as a car in the line up, because it has a bigger boot than a Golf in a narrower car

[brittle totem]

But the taigo is actually pretty good looking in my opinion way better then t-cross and the t-roc.

[eager grove]

and if you want something that looks SUV-ish, but isn't too big and is still practical, and your kids aren't huge, then you can see how you talk yourself into it

[stoic ledge]

Yeah so apparently Sweden's base model is the "Pro Line", other markets have one or two trims below it

[eager grove]

You'd be better off with a Karoq, for my money, but a VW badge is a VW badge

[brittle totem]

How much does the base cost in Germany ? the base one here in around 25k$. Yeah all the base audi is proline here so they everything that you aspect on a premium car.

[sturdy coral]

aaaand my dad's old vehicle AC compressor got stuck

I wonder if its the bearing or the compressor itself

[stoic ledge]

21700€

[brittle totem]

How much does it cost to go up to the proline trim ?

[stoic ledge]

In NL it's 29400 base

[brittle totem]

For proline or just the base ?

[stoic ledge]

Base But that's somewhere between Pro Line and German base spec

Apparently Germany doesn't have a Pro Line?

Just Base, Advanced and S-Line

Ok no our base is also Pro Line

My bad

[brittle totem]

Is it manual our automatic ?

[stoic ledge]

But the Swedish version had the 1.0 TSI 110 6spd as base, NL and Germany have the 1.0 TSI 95hp 5spd base

5spd manual

[brittle totem]

The "s-tronic" seems to be the only option for the 2022 models here.

[stoic ledge]

Ah lol then I misread it

German base spec Very premium indeed

This is NL base

[brittle totem]

The Spanish one is even worse I think they have 1 thing as standard and that ac for obvious reasons.

[stoic ledge]

But both Germany and NL have the 1.0 TSI 95hp 5spd manual as standard

[stoic ledge]

That's basically all the German one has as standard as well

[brittle totem]

Base in Sweden same as the NL one I guess but it probably has heated seat as standard to. For the Scandinavian/Nordic version.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah ours doesn't have heated seats as standard

Also those are optional wheels I think

16"

We get 15" as standard

Also those are the LED headlights

Do you get dual zone climate control as standard in Sweden?

If so, that's also optional here

[stoic ledge]

To get it to look like this, and have dual zone climate control and heated seats, it's 32.5k here

Ah wait that's also with the manual

With the automatic S-Tronic it's 35600

[brittle totem]

Most be the best option here on a1 wo doesn't want some ugly yellow trim in their car.

[stoic ledge]

Kek an A1 has a 5.5k emissions tax on it

[brittle totem]

That's like 2k less then my dads Passat with the 200hp diesel and awd with the elegance trim + business package and some other extras so pretty well equipped as well.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah but that car would've been 60k here 😛

Can't even get a 200hp 4Motion Passat anymore, but the 150hp DSG FWD starts at 53k

Aight no 50k for the Business trim, 53k for R-Line Business

[brittle totem]

Its standard here. but not basic cruise control that's a 6000 SEK option but the adaptive cruise control is 500 SEK more.

[stoic ledge]

Oh so we do get standard CC as standard but ACC is 350 euros extra

[brittle totem]

But not with the elegance trim just business is I remember correctly their is huge different between them. options use the elegance gets upgraded seats led matrix and travel assist and the digital cockpit. And some more nice things to have.

[stoic ledge]

Our current options are just Business, R-Line Business or GTE

Ergo comfort seats, travel assist and digital cockpit are included in our Business trim tho

Just not LED matrix, but just regular LED headlights

R-Line Business does get the Matrix LED headlights

Ah the ErgoComfort 14-way adjustable seats with massaging is optional

[brittle totem]

I guess that AWD is not that necessary over there so they just don't bother with offering that.

[stoic ledge]

Also gets even higher emissions tax

So wouldn't make any sense

The diesel option already makes 0 sense

Fully loaded it's 67k

For that price I'd get a Volvo V60 lol

[brittle totem]

Here in Sweden the volvo v60 is way more expensive the the Passat for the same level of equipment and that car is much smaller to the v90 is better compression.

[stoic ledge]

For 70k I can get a V60 with every single option except the B&W sound system

And it's large enough for me :)

Ah but the Ultimate trim already gets H/K sound system

Or for the same price as the Passat, I can get a "base" V90

But a base V90 is already very well equiped

[brittle totem]

The v90 starts at like 45k here in eith the same equipment as our passat it will cost a bit less then 50k the problem with the v90 os that it so huge on the outside with makes it Hard to park but the intrior space is a bit smaller then the passat. And th v60 is not big enough for ous when go on a trip with the whole family. And the biggest problem is that my dad company hade a price cap at 40k fir their company cars when we got the passat. So that was like the only option we hade witch we could get all of the options that my dad wants on the car. But thye have a new company car policy now for the his next car and the cap will be at 70k And it most be plug in hybrid or an fully electric.

[brittle totem]

Apprently it was the Executive trim bit i guess it very similer to elgance one. Hers is the option list on but it in swedish.

[stoic ledge]

Do you know the WLTP CO2 emissions of it?

158g/km apparently

So that'd be 16.5k emissions tax on it here

[brittle totem]

157g/km but its volkswagen so you never know.

[stoic ledge]

True but only the value on paper matters

Cars get taxed to the emissions value from the WLTP test

https://youtu.be/G1qNofQY13I

[brittle totem]

So thats explain why there where spotted in the northen part of sweden like 1 year ago.

[charred depot]

atleast it didnt go into a bay everyday and had a 50% chance of being able to go into reverse

[tropic mulch]

not sure if it's awesome or i hate it

[undone sonnet]

Both its ugly and nice

[velvet leaf]

its abstract

[stoic ledge]

@brittle totem Just found this Seat Ibiza for sale

No radio OR air conditioning

[brittle totem]

who in the right mind would buy a modern car without a radio. A base Dacia would looks like a luxury car compared to that and i though that Dacia was the lowest spec car you could buy. Btw how much is it can be more then 5k right ?

[stoic ledge]

It's currently for sale for 16495

[velvet leaf]

my grandpas dacia logan from 2004 or smth still going strong

[brittle totem]

Yeah Dacia is pretty reliable right or in other words their not that much that can go wrong with them.

[velvet leaf]

he had minimal repairs on it

[brittle totem]

Guess the model year of this car ? One hint its from Russia.

[velvet leaf]

meanwhile a used renault my brother bought repairs costed more than the car itself

[sturdy coral]

lada?

[brittle totem]

You cant expect that much from a french car (:

[magic crow]

after year 1 ad

[brittle totem]

yes

[brittle totem]

Here is how it looks from the outside.

[velvet leaf]

yeah but i feel bad for him

his AC works half the time

[brittle totem]

Yeah you need to expect the worst when buying a car that's why you should always buy a car that you can afford twice so you have some money left for unexpected repairs.

[velvet leaf]

he bought it a few years ago and had constant problems

problems of an unsalaried young adult

i mean salaried since last month

[brittle totem]

"I bought" my first car like last fall to practice drive. because we didn't have a manual car at the time and i wanted to to have a full licenses so that i am allowed to drive manuals to. But like a week after I got my licenses the front right suspension failed and the parts hasn't arrived yet. and this was back in June so I haven't been able to drive during the summer break. So that's a bit sad and we are planning to sell before winter.

[brittle totem]

The right answer is 2019 and if you look closely on the drivers side is has already started to rust and it only has a bit over 20000km on it. And it from 2019 so Russia seems to have some great quality on their cars.

[velvet leaf]

rip

[brittle totem]

Interesting Tesla just released the base model y in Sweden and it seems to target the Skoda enyaq and Volkswagen id4 because the price is basically the same as them if you want the same options and equipment and the range is pretty similar to.

[brittle totem]

But the delivery time seems way better on tesla side if you order an Enyaq iv80 or id4 you will need to wait at least 9 months but most likely at least a year.

[brittle totem]

And its most likely because of the stupide high speed bumps that we have in our area. the exact same thing happened to my moms car to. So from now on we always drive like 10 mins extra just to go around them. Because for some reason the are just fitted on side of the road.

[charred depot]

Should have bought a old french car : )

Eat through springs in our mid 90's and up cars but 80's springs just seem to be the good shit

civic was the worst breaking half way turning into a claw blinding up the steering

[brittle totem]

Yeah german car is not always the best my car has litterly been in those tents since i got my driver licence. But is has some rust to that needs to be fixed to so know i have reason to fix it becuse the car is not driveble. So that one "good" thing.

[brittle totem]

And of top of that my brother decide to driver over that speed bump like a week ago and of course he got a puncture on his Abarth that he was planning to sell in like a week. And their apparently a "tire shortage" right now to that while take a while to.

[charred depot]

currently im having a moan about not being able to get a spring quicker than 3 days for a car

I was amazed that there is not a single i30 or kia ceed in the big scrapyard here

[brittle totem]

Same here we couldn't find any replacement suspension for my golf gti so it has been sitting there for the whole summer break. And its my last ever Summer break to. So that's a bit sad. But I cant complain that much i got to borrow my parents cars a lot during the summer.

[charred depot]

Im in the funny position where my parents borrow my cars heh, family of cheapskates

[brittle totem]

825,715 SEK witch is around is a bit over 78548$ for a fully specced Volvo v60 T8 with the T8 drivetrain and polestar package.

[stoic ledge]

T8 is more yes But compared it to a regular petrol version

Polestar Engineered is thicc tho

[brittle totem]

Some very realistic consumption for the Passat gte 1,2l/100km how do they even get it so wrong classic Volkswagen.

[stoic ledge]

That's with every PHEV

[brittle totem]

That's why they are so dam popular as company cars because you the tax that you need to pay is super lower if the cars has "low emissions" the benefit tax on diesel passat is like 550$ for the base one with the 200hp diesel and the hybrid is like 250$ a month.

[brittle totem]

Yeah but they don't make since all their is no way to get that such a low consumption they should base the emissions and tax of the combined consumption when the battery is completely dead to and only runs on the ice engine. And most company cars drivers doesn't charge them at all the just buy them to avoid the tax that you need pay if you go for a fully ice powered car.

[charred depot]

hahaha thats what my friend says never drive a car after listing it for sale

it moves

[velvet leaf]

dont tell the buyer that

you watched breaking bad?

[stoic ledge]

Yeah no it's based on a fixed course with the first X% with a full charge and then a bit on the hybrid/petrol mode with the battery empty

But yeah we had the same problem in 2013-2015 here, many Outlander PHEV/Golf/Passat GTE/V60 D6 as company cars but never plugging them in. They stopped the benefits on company tax luckily

Inb4 comes back immediately

[brittle totem]

That's the exact same thing that happened to my brother e91 lci I bet its common issue on e90s.

[brittle totem]

Yeah they have reduced the tax thing for company cars here to but it still cheaper for the driver to choose a Volvo T6 recharge over the base FWD D3.

[charred depot]

dads getting an EV from his company thanks to some tax fuckery

atleast no more having to deal with his shitty car

waiting time is like a year though heh due to shortages

[brittle totem]

Same thing here my dad will get a ev to for his next car it cheaper for the company to choose a 70k ev for a 40k diesel because of all tax benefits. But he very happy for that he can basically drive a nicer car for cheaper.

[brittle totem]

So the Volvo v90 T6 6 recharge is just 500$ more expensive then Passat GTE both are fully loaded but the Volvo v90 is so much nicer. But if i remember correctly the Passat GTE still sells better as company car the v90 recharge.

Maybe that's why you got that brake failure mid corner because the abs sensor where probably on its way out.

Are you planning on getting a new car after your current BMW ?

[brittle totem]

I guess that it is based on 100km drive on like a test track. And they start with a fully charged battery, And the avg consumption is how much fuel it consumed on that drive in my opinion they should to the test with a empty battery to and the combined the fuel consumption for both of the runs to get a more reasonable result.

With "new" I meant a new car for you not a brand new one that stupid thing to do.

How old are you ? here in Sweden you can insure any car for a reasonable price if you are under 25 specially a fast RWD drive BMW. So if you are under 25 you basically always need to have you parent written as the owner of the car. My brother friends where looking at buying a m2 f87 lci or or an m3 f80 but the insurance would have been over 1k a month. Only because of his age and not his "driving history" And my brother insurance on his abarth 595 would have been like 700$ a month for him but under my moms name it like less then 50$ a month.

Have you hade on before you got the e90 ?

aud or usd ?

That's actually pretty god for a 20 year old.

Or I don't know about other markets then Sweden and here is stupid expensive for some reason.

My 2006 golf gti would have 250$ a month in my name but I just turned 18 this year.

That's scary same thing has happened to me twice already and i have hade my license for 2,5 months. But luckily is barely gets dark in Sweden during summer so you can spot them pretty early. But my brother has been hit buy a deer once but luckily it just damaged the driver side mirror. And nothing serious happened to him our the car. But on of my neighbors totaled his moms car like 1 month after he got his license because of that.

[charred depot]

my cars are all in my name costing a random amount between £300 to 800 a year

[brittle totem]

Yeah and no ones knows why I bet the insurance companies just like to "scam" younger drivers because they can.

They never learn to.

[charred depot]

well usually they die heh

we pay for the assumption that we will have a crash

sadly the stats sort of agree with them : (

[brittle totem]

That's true but they other animals should understand after their whole "family" has died after they have passed a road.

[charred depot]

I just get annoyed when 30 - 40 year old people have a crash and their insurance barely goes up

give them 18 year old prices

If I crash I have multiple policies which would get sent to the moon

What sort of buggs me is I pay the same as people with shiny new cars

if they hit me its £500 pay out and piss off but if I total theirs its tens of thousands out the pot

[brittle totem]

Yeah i bet they do some people are just driving so carelessly the same neighbor that totaled his moms car has crashed 1 bmw e60 535d and e36 330i in less then year and both got totaled. Luckily he hasn't injured himself yet.

[charred depot]

im thinking of hanging the rusty metal my drivers seat used to mount to from my center mirror as a reminder not to crash heh

[brittle totem]

Great idea until someone crashes into you.

[charred depot]

guess ill die

got this section chilling in my door pocket

[brittle totem]

This reminds me of the problem that new car with led matrix has some times they think that animals is passing cars because of their eyes reflections. And this happens skip to 01:30 and you will understand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2oBGITU3U0&t=90s

[charred depot]

in my older tosh it seems I need to flash my high beams to get them to turn off

[brittle totem]

I hope that will never happened to us in our Passat with matrix lights during winter. Otherwise they are so nice to have.

[charred depot]

Atleast I think thats whats happening, they turn off faster than I think someone would react

[brittle totem]

My moms f45 has them to and they work perfectly fins during the past 2 winters.

[brittle totem]

But 1 point for BMW for such a great handling in a huge SUV.

[charred depot]

sunrise!

wasnt even highbeams just a big suv

[brittle totem]

Sunrise at 21:18 ?

[charred depot]

yup

I do love these days when there is another car with nice headlights, a rare sight.

[brittle totem]

Maybe time for revenge then he has borrowed you cars and now it time for you to borrow his feature brand new ev (:

[charred depot]

They are too cheap to add me onto their policies

so two of the cars I own I cant drive but they can heh

[brittle totem]

You should have seen the headlight on my dads "old" Passat the high beam was at the same level as the average smartphone light. That car hade such a weird spec the car was pretty highly spaced but lights was worse then a car from the 70s.

[charred depot]

mines could be better but I deliberately run very warm bulbs.

fits the look

[brittle totem]

Do you pay extra for each driver in the UK ? Here we have traffic insurance withs al cars most have to be road legal and then we have half coverage and full coverage. And with the full coverage its latterly insurance for everything I was even allowed to use my dads brand new company car to do my practice driving.

[brittle totem]

Looks like the lights on my dads Passat from 2017.

[charred depot]

Every person has to be specified

Like I have my parents on my policies as it brings down the price a little, I guess the maths is that it wont be a honking pile of shit if your parents are using it or you will be more responsible.

If they add me to theirs the price goes up alot because.. young person alert

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I'd definitely go with the Volvo

[charred depot]

There is a policy for each car, I shuffle mines between cars to save money.

[stoic ledge]

V60 outsells the Passat here 3:1

V90 is more rare tho, as it's too large for our small country

[brittle totem]

I think you can get a pretty high specced 530e or an a6 55 tfsi e for the same price to but people still choose the overpriced Passat GTE over them.

[stoic ledge]

Lol Volvo has a 4-5% market share here

[brittle totem]

Not here the are latterly everywhere but i Live in Sweden so I am not surprised at all but most people go for d3 or d4.

[stoic ledge]

Diesels aren't offered here by Volvo anymore

I still really like them

[brittle totem]

Seems like Netherlands hates diesel cars a lot.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah over the last 5 years they discouraged them a lot

In 2015-2016 they were heavily promoted

[charred depot]

cmon guys look at diesel its so good buy buy buy

[stoic ledge]

Market share new cars was 40-50% back then

[charred depot]

oh shit go back

[stoic ledge]

Now it's <10%

[charred depot]

FOCKIN SCRAP THEM

[brittle totem]

Here is what we swedes uses the 80s Volvos for.

[charred depot]

Id like a 940 diesel

but so rare and those who have them cling onto them so

[brittle totem]

Yes it was the whole videos was them trying to destroy the car. And it wnt trough litterly evrething until it died.

His channel was just videos trying to destory old volvos and he did it for like 2 years staright. And he made alot of money of it. He bought an rs6 2021 fully loaded early this years and has order on a lamborghini huracan tecnica.

[stoic ledge]

Is he going to destroy them too?

Only reason I'd get a VAG car

[brittle totem]

Nah he has quitted her career of destorying old volvos. They nearly dies when they did christmas special with a caravan. They where supposed to eat traditional swedish 'jul bord" bascially traditional swedish christmas food. In the caravan while driving fast on like dirt road. And the whole caravan cought on fire while they did. So he basically are just doing vlogs now but they can be fun to watch to.

The yellow text translates to "Are they any gas bottle in here ?"

And they still deciced to continue untill they where forced to jump out while there going like 40-50km/h

[stoic ledge]

[brittle totem]

He bacially completed switched content from destroying old volvos to driving very expensive cars and a colab with koenigsegg. When he got a ride in koenigsegg regera together with Cvk son Sebasitan von koenigsegg. But its mostly car focused content still witch is Great. Not that many good car channels here in Sweden.

[high musk]

very sad news, we r selling a peugot 205 roland garros edition from 1985 i think but it kinda needs a new home

[fathom socket]

Does anyone know if the 3rd generation Toyota Supra has power steering?

[tropic mulch]

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1563063433222045697

Formula 1 (@F1)

BREAKING: Audi will join Formula 1 in 2026!

#F1

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2022, 7:18 AM

[brittle totem]

Are they joing as a new team or are they going to be engine providers ?

[tropic mulch]

that's what i'm wondering

maybe they bought williams

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.alfa-romeo-to-end-sauber-partnership-at-end-of-2023-season.4bKd4sn2aDCTbpbCAQWeGQ.html

looks like they're stepping in for alfa and bought sauber

[magic crow]

looks like it

[visual owl]

Sauber is the Rumor but not confirmed. however as alpha partnership has announced that its ending the same weekend as Audi has been announced its a safe bet that's what's happening !

[magic crow]

it'll probably be what bmw sauber was back in the day

rumor has it that audi has bought a 75% stake in sauber

[visual owl]

if that's the case though poor Sauber now has to survive for the 2-3 year gap which will be interesting

[magic crow]

i think audi will fill in for alfa romeo as title sponsor

[visual owl]

audi isnt entering til 2026

[magic crow]

if the 75% stake rumors are true, then they'll slap their name on it even with the ferrari engine

[visual owl]

either that or maybe just silent partner for a few years

cant see fez being happy tho they have lost their feeder team and cant see them liking Audi taking control over one of their engine packages

[magic crow]

they didn't have express control of one of the haas and alfa romeo seats this year

[visual owl]

Oh i know, but they are still loosing that relationship to another factory team, and if Audi and Porsche are going to bring what they brought to WEC, F1 could get real interesting real fast

really it can only be good for the sport having more factory involvement !

[magic crow]

i wish atleast one of them would come in as a new entrant instead of buying into a new team

but we finally have VAG in f1

wait that sounds really bad

*volkswagen

[fathom socket]

mfw mk4s go for more than mk5s

[brittle totem]

Yeah because the mk4 is become pretty rare and has good tuning possibilities. But in my opinion they are bit overhyped but i am nor really interested in Japanese car either so that's probably why I don't like them as much.

[fathom socket]

Tbh just get a miata

[timber oar]

If you can fit in a miata

I could probably wear it on my foot as a roller skate

[hollow python]

Yo, best / best budget / cheapest option to get audio from a phone (bluetooth or aux or usb, I have android usb-c) into a car that has an fm radio? I know they have little things that plug into like a dc power port and you can bluetooth to that and it broadcasts a little fm wave for you to tune into. Any other options or are there any of those that are particularly good or individual ones that go from aux or usb to bluetooth and use battery or anything?

[tropic mulch]

Miata is always the answer

[wraith rivet]

cleeter

[frank nova]

bugatti man

https://tenor.com/view/tate-andrew-tate-tate-bugatti-gif-26102951

[brittle totem]

Those dc powerd once works Great if you dont buy the absoulte chapest one my brother has hade them in all of his cars. And it has worked really well specially in older bmw without Bluetooth.

[fathom socket]

so the headgasket wasn't really blown

but it seems there was a seal problem

maybe head warped or something

[stoic ledge]

Is it fixed now?

[stoic ledge]

Didn't you put it up for sale?

So it now has an error and damage

Although the bumper was already damaged by the looks of it

[fathom socket]

no

waiting for the head to be resurfaced

[stoic ledge]

[brittle totem]

Ofcourse evreything bad happends when you already has listed the car for sale. Doesnt the e90 come with a rear and side parking senors as standard ? Or where they faulty to ?

[stoic ledge]

Nothing came standard on those BMW's

But that one appears to have it

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/are-tesla-yoke-steering-wheels-crumbling-apart-after-5000-miles/

[brittle totem]

Tesla should ad am option for a normal steering wheel to. But u guess that it good for the aftermarket companies that they dont have it as factory option. I have seen alot of People thst has repclaced the yoke with a normal wheel.

[brittle totem]

My brother has hade 3 bmw in the e90 generation and all of them hade rear and front sensors.

[stoic ledge]

Front was definitely optional

Most don't have them

I do think most had rear but not sure if they were standard

[brittle totem]

They are most likely standard here but maybe not in other markets i haven't seen any e90s without the rear once for sale. But the front once is an optinal extra i think that where included in the comfort package.

[stoic ledge]

Here is one without rear parking sensors

Told you, not standard 😛

[brittle totem]

Weird i havent seen any e90s without the rear ones even the cheapest 316i and d has them.

[stoic ledge]

It wasn't easy finding this one, as even most 316i's have it yes

But this one doesn't

Also has manual AC, no iDrive system..

[brittle totem]

Here is the cheapest 316i currently for sale in sweden and it has them.

[brittle totem]

The idrive system is not very common on the e90s in Sweden my brother 330i e92 was basically fully loaded but it didnt have the idrive system. The only thing that was missing was the idrive and the adaptive cruise control if I remeber corretly.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah so apparently iDrive was not common in basically any other market than NL, I also see a lot of US E9x's without any iDrive or whatever

Almost all Dutch E9x's had it

My brother's E91 had iDrive Professional (so the large screen) and basically every other option except power seats, alarm (hence it got stolen) and ACC

[stoic ledge]

Many had just the smaller iDrive Business tho, Professional is rarer

[brittle totem]

This is most expensive e92 for sale in sweden and it doesn't have it but basically has evreything else that you could get on a e90.

Do you like that ugly wood trim to ? If it was black it would have been pretty decent. But it easy to replace if you want to my brother e92 hade that to when he got it. And he decieded to wrap it in carbon fiber.

[stoic ledge]

No I really like that

No heated seats tho

That's worse

My brother's had just black

[brittle totem]

My brother once was pretty ugly to before he wraped that wooden trim with 'carbon fiber"

[stoic ledge]

But that's a different wood, a worse wood

And the beige dash is also ugly

[stoic ledge]

This one has the black dash and dark woorden trim, that's classy. And camel seats, that's nice

[brittle totem]

I am not fan of wood trim at all. Sot thats probely why.

[brittle totem]

Probely imported nearly as swedes options heated seats on their cars.

[stoic ledge]

Light wood no, dark wood yes

[brittle totem]

With the carbon fiber trim it was decent but thats a reason why he sold it to he didnt like the intrior colors that much. He got a perfect m sport specced e91 325i after that according to me and him fully blacked out intrior but with the alcantara seats and the penoramic sun roof. And it was lemans blue to. But it didnt have the idrive system witch sucked becuse it was an lci so in build Bluetooth would have been included then.

[stoic ledge]

Bluetooth was included but audio bluetooth was not

So A2DP or whatever was still optional

My brother's LCI had the iDrive Professional + Bluetooth for phone calls but didn't work for music

Although his did have the black seats, and exterior was Alpinweiss

(also M-Sport)

And pano roof, which was quite large for an opening roof

[brittle totem]

Is that the car that got stolen because it didn't have the optional theft alarm ?

[stoic ledge]

Yes

[brittle totem]

My brother once had the optional logic 7/harman kardon sound system and if i remember correctly you would have gotten Bluetooth for music streaming to if it was optioned out with the iDrive Professional.

And the car was a bit special because it was manual 325i and it was highly specced to witch is very uncommon for the e91 in Sweden 95% of the highly specced once are automatic.

[stoic ledge]

Hmm yeah so my brother didn't have the H/K system but the HiFi system, but with iDrive Professional, it was an LCI but is didn't have A2DP audio streaming. So if it was included at some spec, it must've been with the H/K system

iDrive Professional is not a guarantee for the audio streaming

[brittle totem]

I think that the iDrive Professional + logic 7 did get the came Bluetooth streaming included at least in Sweden. But for some reason people either specced the logic 7 system or the iDrive Professional system so it hard to find one with both.

[wheat mural]

iDrive really sounds like something Apple would name a car.

[brittle totem]

I like how my Brothers old e92 hade the optional ski bag who even specs that it sporty BMW coupe.

[stoic ledge]

Hmm don't think I've ever seen the H/K system without iDrive Professional here

[stoic ledge]

BMW also had an iDrive NBT, Next Big Thing, which is also something Apple would name

It's the Next Big Thing

[brittle totem]

That's super common is Sweden people didn't seem to understand why you would want to have a "big" lcd screen in a car. But i like that the highly specced car before the lci often docent have the the iDrive system because it was pretty bad then before the released the cic system.

[brittle totem]

They hade a partner ship with apple for a few years right ? My moms f45 has specially made phone holder in the arm rest for an iPhone 4. the funny thing is that my moms care is a 2015 model so it came out 5 years after the iPhone 4 so it was already "useless" back when the car was new.

[stoic ledge]

Idk I just find it cheap looking having the small display, with those massive bezels

I'd mainly get it for the looks

[tropic mulch]

who wants to see a gigantic joke?

[stoic ledge]

Don't think that was a partnership, that was just a thing to do back then

[tropic mulch]

🤡

blitz 03's are one of the more hideous "enthusiast" wheels out there

[brittle totem]

Most of them doesn't have the iDrive at all in Sweden I think that the base iDrive was an option on even the 335i to witch is good in my opinion I wouldn't buy a e90 with the base iDrive it just looks so bad and rather take the old school stereo screen.

[stoic ledge]

Most new cars in NL are sold as company cars, which usually come as a Business trim which includes stuff like sat nav. Thats why most have atleast the base sat nav

[brittle totem]

BMW was the first car manufacture with Apple wireless carplay to so it seems like the hade some unofficial partnership pr something like that you could buy specially made apple accessories for your BMW to a few years ago.

[stoic ledge]

I don't think there's an official partnership

Opel also had a FlexDock with iPhone accessories, many brands had iPod/iPhone cables, other brands also had cradles for many phones including iPhones

[brittle totem]

This is the one my moms has in hers BMW from factory.

[tropic mulch]

iirc ferrari had a one (or few off) off car that had a molded in holder for an iphone 3 or something way back

[brittle totem]

I think that the one is my moms car permanently fitted to we haven't find away to remove it.

[stoic ledge]

Idk about the 2AT but some models require to change the insert of the center console

[brittle totem]

Is 2AT the "code name" for the phone holder option ?

[stoic ledge]

No 2 Active Tourer

😛

[brittle totem]

It is placed inside the armrest so you probably need to change the insert or the whole arm rest to ger rid of it.

[civic spoke]

I have a phone in my car, too.

That came with it.

Look at that lovely phone mount.

[brittle totem]

I thought you meant this.

[wheat mural]

Why would a BMW come with a phone?

It's not like someone buying one doesn't already have a phone 😄

[brittle totem]

Nah I would rather have the factory one from BMW that is inside the arm rest so it is useless and it designed for a phone that came out 5 years before the car was announced.

[wheat mural]

That looks more like 20+ years old rather than 5.

[brittle totem]

It was a cool thing to have in luxury car in the late 90s to mid 2000s

[wheat mural]

Car coming with a phone maybe made sense in the 80's or 90's, back in the bag phone era

but now? I don't see why

Curious what phone GlassBomb's car supposedly came with? Special edition BMW-edition of some flagship?

[brittle totem]

they don't have it know but the 7 series hade is a option until 2007.

[wheat mural]

Wait, your BMW came with a nokia?

😄

[civic spoke]

Yessir

[wheat mural]

Not sure I've seen a nokia in close to a decade

Actually, I probably have, but modern nokia's don't really have any distinguishing characteristics anyway

[brittle totem]

That most have been a very rare option on a 3 series ?

[brittle totem]

I thought that you hade a typical smart phone mount in the car and not for a Nokia.

[wheat mural]

Like that's a Nokia, but nothing about it screams Nokia

unlike the old ones

Just looks like any random android phone

[brittle totem]

Looks like an average 250$ android phone

[wheat mural]

Nah, $250 androids don't have even bezels

That's a $550 nokia

Actually, I guess the chin is a bit bigger than the top

but it's more even than most phones

[civic spoke]

It's a weird spec. Cloth seats, and the phone.

[brittle totem]

Yes they have this one costs 150$.

[wheat mural]

that's a more noticeably big chin though

but yeah a lot of budget phones don't look that different from flagships from the front

[brittle totem]

Someone hade some weird priorities. Do you know that "code name" for that option is ?

[brittle totem]

This one is 150$ to and looks the same as my s21 from the front.

[brittle totem]

But it is a m sport that is the most important thing in a BMW (:

[wheat mural]

That's what my phone looks like from the front, but doesn't really stabd out much

Other than curved sides, so no bezels at all on the sides

rear end looks more distinctive

[brittle totem]

Mine looks like this I cant se a different from that cheap Huawei but I bet that the feels a lot different in the hand and the panel it self is most likely 10x better on my a s21.

[wheat mural]

Yeah, there's a lot of phones with 720P LCD's that are 60 hz

that probably look like my display when turned off

but when turned on you'd notice the difference for sure 😄

I've got a Pixel 6 Pro, so it's 2130x1440 120 Hz OLED

[brittle totem]

Yeah even apple has a phone from 2022 with 720p lcd 60hz screen.

[wheat mural]

SE's probably just under 720p?

I know apple does weird resolutions

where they aim for a specific ppi rather than a standard res

750x1334
oh, just over 720P

I knew their flagship was just under 1440P, so assumed the SE was under 720

[civic spoke]

It's not. But I sort of sorted that out.

[brittle totem]

Just why their is 350$ android phones with a 1080p 120hz this days.

[wheat mural]

1284x2778 on the pro max, not sure why they always use weird proprietary resolutions

[brittle totem]

Aftermarket parts ?

[civic spoke]

New springs and shocks. Different 17 inch rims.

[brittle totem]

Or original from like scrap yard ?

[wheat mural]

It always amuses me how much some people get angered by any parts that aren't OEM. Not saying OEM is always worse, but it certainly can be.

My mother's an insurance adjustor, so she writes estimates for repairs on cars, and she quite frequently gets customers screaming at her, saying that it's unacceptable for any aftermarket parts to be used on their cars.

[brittle totem]

My brother usually tries to find a part car on car scrap yard to get some OEM parts that is still good cheap instead of buying after market parts specially for the interior. But he doesn't like to modify his cars that much he likes to keep them as stock as possible with a few improvements. He used to buy m sport steering wheels from a nearby scrap yard to put in his non m sport BMW that he has owned.

[wheat mural]

I'm not saying there's no merit to OEM ever, but there's definitely some instances where aftermarket parts are just a straight improvement over OEM, in terms of reliability, safety, etc. But a lot of people just always want OEM no matter what

[brittle totem]

Wait are that first picture that you send the interior from your e46 ? Or just random pic from google ?

[brittle totem]

I don't mind aftermarket parts that much it up to owner of the car to choose. And their are a lot of good aftermarket parts to. But the OEM parts usually fits the cars way better then aftermarket once.

[wheat mural]

Generally insurance companies go for whichever is cheaper, if the owner demands OEM, they usually have to cover the cost difference themselves

[civic spoke]

Mine when I bought it

[brittle totem]

But isn't that the M sport interior ?

[civic spoke]

Think I looked up my vin and couldn't find the sport package there.

[brittle totem]

Did you use the m decoder website ? but it looks like you have the m sport shift leaver and the m sport steering wheel and the m sport seats. You can try with car.info website to and it should say m sport like this.

But you should already know if the it is a an m sport or not because the m sport version goes for a bit more then the regular e46s same with every BMW that I know of.

[civic spoke]

Let me find a decoder site again, and check.

[brittle totem]

Their is a free one witch is called m decoder that works great for BMW.

[civic spoke]

Yeah, can't find a sports package for mine.

Has the sports seats. But that's it.

And the steering wheel

[brittle totem]

Probably the regular sport/sport line package then. But does the steering wheal have the m sport logo that means that the owner before you changed it an m sport one.

Witch engine does it have ?

[civic spoke]

Doesn't have the M logo on it.

It's just the 2.2 liter. Small 6 cylinder.

M54B22

So E46 320i

[brittle totem]

Seems like the e46 coupes has gone up in price a lot lately. They used to sell for around 7-9k$ like 2,5 years ago.

[civic spoke]

I'm happy that I got mine for 50,000 kr, seven years ago. Or whatever it was.

Still don't like the pre-LCI E46

[brittle totem]

My brother bough a 2003 330i e46 estate like 3 years ago for 30,000SEK it hade some rust on it but he fixed it like a week after buying it and sold it for like bit under 60,000sek just 6 months later.

[viscid palm]

man i want a motorcycle so bad but laws suck here

gotta be 20 to start learning and then you are still limited to 35kw

24 for no power restrictions

by that time petrol bikes wont even be sold anymore

[tropic mulch]

Motorcycles are fun, but goddamn dangerous

i got hit/run by a prius about 8 years ago and still havn't gotten 100% the feeling back in my right leg

[viscid palm]

Yeah i know

But all fun things are dangerous

Its just if i die i die its inevitable so better do it while having fun than regret not having fun

[brittle totem]

Yeah my dad best friend crashed pretty hard yesterday on his Motorcycle because of some stupid caravan driver that basically just switched lane without watching at all and it was at motorway speeds. I hope that he will recovery well. At least it seems like he didn't sustained any life threatening injuries.

[tropic mulch]

that's the thing, when i got hit, it was super slow (around 25mph), and the car clipped my rear tire when i was going through an intersection. I was wearing boots/jeans/leather jacket/full face helmet, and it still fucked me up horribly

was in full body pain for a good 2 weeks, and even a month after that, every 5 minutes or so, for 30 seconds, my right leg felt as if someone was holding a blowtorch to it. The doctors said it may be permanant and I honestly thought of ending things if that was the case

it was that bad

luckily the nerve just died and i can't feel anything on the outside of my leg instead of it being the worst pain in my life

[gilded jackal]

My cousin died cause a drunk driver was driving on the wrong lane with no lights, he hit my cousin head on. Was a closed casket funeral.

^ cousin was on a bike

[viscid palm]

Tbh i dont really think vehicle matters a head on is rarely survivable atleast at highway speeds

[hoary pine]

For this reason virtually all roads people might reasonably accelerate over 30 mph are divided when possible in my city.

But I think getting T-boned are more deadly because modern Vehicle are quite equipped for head-on, but it is just hard to buffer the sides.

[gilded jackal]

correct

u would have a better chance in a car though

[viscid palm]

Well yes sure but the chance of surviving with no permanent damage is next to nothing

And like that i would rather die doing somthing i enjoy than live with permanent brain damage after

[wheat mural]

It's quite often survivable in a car

On a bike it's nearly always a death sentence though sadly

[viscid palm]

A head on at highway speeds is 200kph relative speed depending of the weight of the vehicle of course still but that speed crash isnt survivable in most cars. Especially in the us we're cars are much heavier on average

[wheat mural]

With each car going 112 kph, so 225 kph combined speed, chance of survival of a head on accident is around 25%, it's not "that" low

accidents rarely happen at those speeds though

since even if cars are going that fast

they usually at least try to stop, and slow down

prior to impact

Looks like it depends a LOT on the specific car too though

Says if a SUV and a car collide head on

the SUV driver is roughly 8x more likely to survive

[wraith rivet]

Is that rubbing?

[wraith rivet]

rip

is it still driveable day to day or does that tire rub constantly I mean

from that angle it looks like the tire is touching all the time

[brittle totem]

So not the same problem as my brother hade in his car iw was on of the abs sensors that failed. So it was a bit sketchy for him during winter he drove for like over a month without traction control or abs at all during Swedish winter in RWD BMW.

[vocal mural]

@stoic ledge https://24liveblog.tradingfront.cn/event/3021704356326304412/20220828132139_051052.png

Another Peugeot ready for scrapyard

[stoic ledge]

Atleast he's not a blokeertokkie in a VW
https://www.dumpert.nl/?selectedId=100039799_04119669

[timber oar]

Meanwhile I'm 20 here and i started on a gl1500

I just got a zx7r a couple weeks ago

[viscid palm]

Yeah na is somthing else

[timber oar]

You just have to get your endorsement here in Colorado

Which i did

And that's it

[viscid palm]

Only advantage i have is i live 20 minutes away from the german border

[charred depot]

Yep

Head gasket consumer

[viscid palm]

Yeah i have to get multiple test fun fact we have the hardest driving test in the world

[timber oar]

I think we are too easy

For normal driving at least

The motorcycle testing is about right I'd say

[viscid palm]

40% of people that take the test actually make it first try

60% fail

[timber oar]

Yeah see for normal driving it's like 15 minutes with some stop signs and signaled lane changes

No parking, no highways

People still forget what turn signals and stop signs are

Usually have their eyeballs glued to their phone screen

Etc

I'm fortunate that I'm vigilant enough to have avoided accidents and also haven't been pulled over at all even though I've been driving for what 5 years

Other drivers have definitely done their best trying to hit me though i stg

[viscid palm]

Yeah i hope i wont be pulled over fines here are absurd

[wraith rivet]

in California people don’t understand the concept of faster traffic on the left slower on the right

you’ll have people every day be going 60 in the passing lane with the rest of us going 80 having to go around them

😤

[fathom socket]

that looks reparaible

I bet mine was imported in state like that

[civic spoke]

I'm in this picture.
And I don't like it.

[charred depot]

imagine washing your car

wouldnt be me

[lone fern]

man fuck the summer

phone mount suction cup melted to the dashboard and now it smells like burnt plastic

[civic spoke]

One more reason why I don't want one of those phone mounts.

I rather just modify the old-ass Nokia mount that I have.

[lone fern]

i wish i could use a vent mount but I end up hitting it with my shifter or blinkers

[civic spoke]

Thanks for giving me PTSD.

[fathom socket]

I wish I had plastic dashboard so I cold mount my satnav without taking 40% of the view

but I feel ya

[brittle totem]

I need to listen to that every time I am going for a drive in my moms BMW because of stupid common issue with the parking brake sensor so it beeps every time you open the drivers door and when you engage the parking brake. And if you want to fix it you need to like dissemble the whole middle console just to replace that sensor.

[timber oar]

its the same here thats why i like motorcycles, i just go around them easily

[fathom socket]

this is my PTSD

[civic spoke]

Oh, I know that warning as well.

[timber oar]

what is that obnoxious noise

[civic spoke]

Can't use too much caps.

Bot doesn't like that.

[timber oar]

lol did you just get botted xD

[fathom socket]

fREAKING BRAKE LINE DISCONECTED WHEN DRIVING ON HIGHWAY

[fathom socket]

i GOT CAPSED

[timber oar]

that sounds like a bad time

[lone fern]

riiiiip

[civic spoke]

Hah. Maybe you can just use one non-caps.

[timber oar]

im pretty sure you use brakes at some point

i havent had to a whole lot

[civic spoke]

Speaking of that. I have had the 3rd axle bellow blow on me.

[fathom socket]

I mean air brake line to railer

[civic spoke]

The air bellow that lifts the third axle didn't want to live anymore. And it took an air line with it.

[fathom socket]

I had trailer front tyre explode

[timber oar]

oh

[fathom socket]

I think it broke the rear light

[timber oar]

the air feed for trailer brakes?

[fathom socket]

nothing else

[civic spoke]

So it dumped the third axle down, and I was able to roll away from there with barely enough brake pressure to keep me above the low-pressure locking.

[civic spoke]

Yeah, I remember that.

Steering-axle blowouts are nasty.

[fathom socket]

not working for that company anymore

[civic spoke]

Oh, speaking about working for other companies.

I'm changing a few weeks from now.

Still driving the same stuff. But at a higher pay.

[fathom socket]

I'm trying to fix my car overheating and find a new job

don't really wanna work in Poland because they just force you to commit crimes here

[timber oar]

how so? am curious

[civic spoke]

I'll be getting like €2,900 before taxes. According to the conversion rate we have today.

[fathom socket]

Driving an unsafe vehicle and drive without card or with tachograph emulator

if you don't, I'm gonna fire you and not pay you, and there's jack shit you can do

[timber oar]

what on earth is a tacograph emulator

[civic spoke]

Guessing that it fools the tachograph.

[fathom socket]

yep

[timber oar]

so i had to google that

[fathom socket]

one of the people I took the truck driving course had a job like this

[timber oar]

so tachograph basically is something like a gps tracker then

[fathom socket]

but there was a problem with him

[civic spoke]

I don't like driving without my own card. But it has been something that I have done like 3 times in the last three years.

[fathom socket]

if he got fired or quit, he would have to pay a fine of 3500 euro

[timber oar]

are those tachographs required by some entity?

i really know absolutely nothing about how stuff works over there

[fathom socket]

it's required in all vehicles above 3.5 tons in europe

there are exceptions like firetrucks, ambulances etc

[timber oar]

is it commercial vehicles specifically or just everything over that weight?

[civic spoke]

Commercial.

[timber oar]

i was gonna say i think some of the bigger pickup trucks might go over that

but thats pretty heavy so idk

[fathom socket]

don't you need even if it isn't commerical?

[timber oar]

motor homes/rvs would though i bet

[civic spoke]

You can probably get around it. But then you'd also have to prove that you're only using it for personal use.

Would probably just be easier to have it installed. And use OUT all of the time.

[timber oar]

and i would be very displeased if i was required to be tracked just for owning a motorhome

theres a reason i drive stuff thats 25-30 years old

[civic spoke]

The big thing in Europe is that most just don't drive vehicles that are above 3.5 tonnes.

[fathom socket]

I remember someone got halted by police because the tachograph wasn't inspected even if it was for personal use

[civic spoke]

It's all just bothersome.

[timber oar]

well its not like i was planning on living in europe anyways lmao

[civic spoke]

Boss got fined a while back. Because he hadn't taken a 30 minute rest in the last 6 hours since starting work.

[timber oar]

out here i think companies will want their drivers to be gps monitored mostly for speed but thats all i know about

[fathom socket]

Taking a break in my previous company was like

set it to break while you unload

and work like that for 18 hours

[civic spoke]

Work until you can't anymore.

[fathom socket]

• 2 hours so I can get home and work

so I had 4 hours off

[brittle totem]

The volkswagen one is not stressful at all (:

[fathom socket]

whut?

[civic spoke]

You're essentially allowed to work from 05 until 01. As long as you drive for less than 9 (10) hours total. And you still have your rest stops that's required.

[fathom socket]

is the screen blinking or camera thing?

my speeding record in DAF

[brittle totem]

The screen is blinking to. This was right after our Norway road trip i guess that our car didn't like Norway or something. the car needed to be towed back to Volkswagen it was some computer failure after just 45000km not worrying at all at least it didn't happened while we where driving.

[charred depot]

friend who uses a pickup truck to transport cars for dinero has a tachograph

[fathom socket]

I miss the days where you could have a blinking check engine light and still drive

[civic spoke]

Oh, that reminds me.

I got a nice low coolant warning in the truck recently.

Those are always fun.

[fathom socket]

when I started the colleagues got a wrecked daf that drank coolant and oil

[charred depot]

Miffed that ive had my first breakdown, old tosh was going so well.

[fathom socket]

and then got stuck somewhere in UK because oil warning light came

[charred depot]

To be fair it wasnt out of the blue I knew the engine was hooped I just expected more than 20 miles.

[fathom socket]

meanwhile they gave me a brand new DAF to destroy

[timber oar]

ok i may have not known whether brakes were terribly useful but

i know oil is important

thats a big one

[fathom socket]

honestly the only breakdown I had that wasn't my fault was a bearing that snapped

[charred depot]

only breakdown is the 305 with its worn piston rings

[fathom socket]

My 307 never really broke down, but has issues

[charred depot]

I didnt quite calculate that it would send oil up the breather filling the airbox with oil

[civic spoke]

Low coolant came up this Friday, because I had a to drive up a steep hill.

Don't really see the elevation change, or how narrow it is. But it wasn't really wider than 3 meters. If that.

[fathom socket]

I need to drive as fast as my cars allows me to in Germany

[civic spoke]

Picture was taken Level.

[fathom socket]

I drove on steeper

and I got stuck

[civic spoke]

Having to dump it right next to lines are also fun.

[timber oar]

i often forget cars even got to the point where they would warn you about coolant level

[gilded jackal]

Yall get warn about coolant levels must be nice

[charred depot]

My 80's car has a coolant level sensor

[fathom socket]

honestly I don't think that's advanced

it could be a pressure switch or something like in the gas tank

[charred depot]

has worn pad sensors aswell : )

[timber oar]

well ok i take that back

one of my cars can do that

the other one you just find out when the engine overheats and locks up

[fathom socket]

that would be useful of my peugeot when all my coolant drained away

[civic spoke]

The worst thing to happen is when sensors are failing.

And doesn't report failures.

Or low levels.

Like what I had with the crane/hooklift truck I drove a while earlier.

I checked the oil level with the computer. It wouldn't show a level...

So I checked the dip stick. And it was dry.

[gilded jackal]

Got to keep an eye on that heat gauge

[charred depot]

Its less of an issue with newer stuff but on my older stuff all the sensors are normally open

so if they are say disconnected it wont show anything

[fathom socket]

I think that was too late then

[gilded jackal]

Rip

Almost lost my RB cause the clutch fan flexed and hit my radiator, but i caught it in time when i saw the gauge going up in temp.

[fathom socket]

at the end I filled my car with auter and the radiator exploded when I parked

[civic spoke]

I had to add 10 liters of oil to the truck with low/no oil in it.

[gilded jackal]

Did you allow the radiator time to cool naturally?

[civic spoke]

The oil temp was also showing hothothot while driving.

Anywhere between 110~120 C while driving.

[charred depot]

my friend has a old nissan bluebird, his electric radiator fan bearing got worn allowing to fan to start cutting into the radiator.

[fathom socket]

I mean I put water and drove for like 30 km

then parked and all the water barfed on the road

also I left coolant cap open

[charred depot]

french cars generally arent er self bleeding

[gilded jackal]

Dang

[charred depot]

airlocks in the head are pretty common

[gilded jackal]

Probably shouldn’t of left the coolant cap off lol

[civic spoke]

My BMW was pretty damn bad with coolant as well.

[brittle totem]

But in new cars like to beep on you like 50 times in a row if the Windshield washer fluid gets low.

[gilded jackal]

But you live and you learn so now you have the experience 👍

[fathom socket]

I think if it was running on pure water I should

[gilded jackal]

No

[charred depot]

it needs to pressurize to give it a higher boiling point

[gilded jackal]

You should tighten the cap for it to build pressure

[civic spoke]

The radiator on it had blown out on my car.

[gilded jackal]

Yup

[fathom socket]

then when I put my cap back it barfed like 2 mins after

[gilded jackal]

Did your radiator have a hole in it?

[fathom socket]

yes

[gilded jackal]

Eh well then it didn’t really matter

[fathom socket]

I didn't wanna overpressurize the system

[charred depot]

most of our cars have screwed radiators, we just run K seal in them heh. As soon as they dont have K seal in them they start leaking again.

[timber oar]

well i mean

[charred depot]

Ultimate cooling

[timber oar]

you could replace the radiators

[charred depot]

too expensive

[timber oar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[charred depot]

alot of them need recored by a specialist, unavailable new.

[brittle totem]

In our BMW you cant even check the engine oil levels manually the only way to so it is trough the infotainment screen so if the sensor is broken you have a pretty big problem. And wont notice until the engine gives up.

[timber oar]

really?

even looking on like rockauto

[charred depot]

bro I cant even get bushings

[timber oar]

they have a lot of parts

[fathom socket]

can't you just put a random radiator that fits?

[charred depot]

I live in the UK

you can but its more effort making up custom hoses.

[timber oar]

yeah i was gonna say just grab a radiator and stick it in there

its not that deep

[civic spoke]

Same thing with newer trucks. No dip stick in them. Cause it's cheaper to produce.

[gilded jackal]

You can make a custom radiator, if you had a 1 core or 2 before if you have room you can make a 3 core

[charred depot]

They are fine with K seal so its pointless putting more effort in

[timber oar]

they want you to take it to them for service instead of doing your own work

[gilded jackal]

Dude wtf

[timber oar]

that right there is exactly why i refuse to ever touch newer bmws

[charred depot]

tis spreading

[gilded jackal]

Worst trend ever

They bringing apple behavior into cars now

[civic spoke]

But actually. It really is cheaper to make cars without a dipstick. Since you require the oil level sensor regardless.
So they just don't have to drill a hole, and install a dipstick tube.

[gilded jackal]

But… but… i wanna check my oil level 😢

Manually

[charred depot]

Never seen a BMW with a failed oil level sensor :^)

[timber oar]

ill do you one better

not only do i have oil dipsticks

[civic spoke]

Tough luck. To check it manually, you have to do it with the computer now.

[timber oar]

i have transmission dipsticks >:)

[gilded jackal]

Same here

[timber oar]

well

for my one automatic i have

[gilded jackal]

Our engines are superior

[brittle totem]

Yeah the BMW manual doesn't even tell you how to disconnect the 12v battery but their is a step buy step instruction on how to use the launch control correctly (:

[timber oar]

then to be fair if you need directions for taking the battery out you really shouldnt be doing it

[brittle totem]

Yeah I know that but they should at least tell you that instead of how to use launch control.

[gilded jackal]

Why

[charred depot]

but they can just visit the dealer : )

[civic spoke]

You even have to reprogram the car for a fresh battery.

[timber oar]

are you shitting me?

how does it even know or care

[civic spoke]

I think that they have programmed the alternator to provide more power as the battery ages.

[timber oar]

why???

how???

[charred depot]

start stop AGM battery shite

[timber oar]

isnt the point of the voltage regulator in an alternator so it just automatically holds a voltage and adjusts to load anyways??

like come on

we need to stop making this so complicated

[charred depot]

AGM's are more sensitive than normie batteries

[timber oar]

how so

[charred depot]

i don fuckn know chemisty or some shit

[timber oar]

if anything thats the opposite of what ive come to understand about them

they are more robust

[charred depot]

higher performing at the cost of being more sensitive

[fathom socket]

abshorbent glass battery or something

I guess

[brittle totem]

That's probably the reason why it needs to be reprogramed for a new battery so it knows how to handle it correctly. Most new car more like a computer on wheels then a car and that's probably why a modern car is so complicated compared to old once.

[timber oar]

compared to a flooded lead acid cell it was my understanding they are both way more tolerant of physical shock as well as the higher electrical loads placed on them by modern cars

as the lead "plates" are physically supported by a glass mat absorbed in the electrolyte

and that allows shock tolerance

[fathom socket]

honestly I just prefer to have old shitbox that is modern enough that has Port EFI and OBD2

[timber oar]

and also means the lead can be more pure as its not having to support itself

which contributes to more desirable electrical properties

[charred depot]

They are better but need more special charging

[timber oar]

where have you seen that at

[fathom socket]

wnat about

[charred depot]

I know you cant throw an AGM on a normal charger.

[fathom socket]

super capacitors

[timber oar]

ive already done that repeatedly

its the same chemistry and has the same cell voltages

[charred depot]

you can do alot of things and get away with them that you shouldnt

[fathom socket]

I think with super caps you might be able to start your car with 7 AH battery

[timber oar]

they just changed the physical construction of it

[fathom socket]

ofc it would take some time to charge and you could crank your engine for so much

[timber oar]

im not telling you that you are wrong im just telling you that everything you are saying is contrary to what ive been taught

so if im wrong i would like you to show me where you are getting your information from

[charred depot]

Well I ask you this if normal chargers are fine why do AGM chargers exist.

[fathom socket]

My neighbour has a golf MK.3 that takes 2 minutes of cranking to start

[timber oar]

i didnt even realize they had agm chargers

[charred depot]

https://vehiclefreak.com/std-vs-agm-battery-charging-whats-the-difference/#:~:text=To summarize%2C the main difference,specifically designed for AGM batteries.

normal chargers can go a fair bit higher voltage than a AGM would be happy with

[timber oar]

not to be a squeaky wheel but

they couldnt even describe what a normal sealed battery is properly

completely skipped over the fact that its a gelled electrolyte

[charred depot]

Theres plenty more articles

I scrolled through most of it

[timber oar]

i can somewhat follow the logic of not needing such a high charging voltage because the plates are better compared to a flooded cell

[charred depot]

I dont know fuck about the science I just know the reality.

[timber oar]

but thats probably why my charger works just fine as i manually set charge current to maybe 1A

as im not impatient and just dont try to pump to much into batteries

[charred depot]

maybe, it could also just take many occurances to see a negative affect.

[civic spoke]

Does it like 18 volt?

[charred depot]

💀

[civic spoke]

I had a fucky alternator before. And it would overcharge my whole system.

[timber oar]

alternators should do like 14.5v maybe?

18 seems like a malfunction

[charred depot]

That would be fucky

[civic spoke]

I mean. That's why I had it replaced.

[timber oar]

actually

now that i think about it, the volt guage in one of my cars maxes at 18

thats when the magic blue smoke comes out

[charred depot]

Its sobering that this guys lada is faster than my 305

both in cornering and power heh

[gilded jackal]

Time for a turbo

[charred depot]

Im trying to track down a XUD11TE (2.1L turbo diesel) but they are rare

Can always stick in a modern HDI but id rather not deal with computers.

[brittle totem]

Swedes in their natural habitat (:

[dusk ocean]

speaking of swedes

i am converting to copper-nickel brake lines

[charred depot]

Smart

was decent everywhere else just totally rotten at the 90 degree bend which you wouldnt really see easily.

had a civic's brake line explode at the MOT center.

they like stamp on the brake proper hard and see if it slowly moves in

:^|

[strange sonnet]

yk what sucks

my FJ got fucked in a crash

and now I drive a shitty honda civic that can't accelerate

[wraith rivet]

Oh that’s good

[brittle totem]

If modern trucks gets coolent issues after that how are they supposed to handle roads like this in Norway ?

[stable grotto]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/742811656953790475/1013804320719904888/74724145-800B-498E-879A-41BCC3A12087.jpg?width=507&height=676

morning everyone

[civic spoke]

The altitude wasn't the problem. The grade was.

[tranquil marlin]

Real neet engine sim, can peruse and play with it yourself, as well as add or design your own
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPCMNnM6D0k

[tropic mulch]

this van will never not be funny

[stoic ledge]

@brittle totem do you like the interior of my brother's new BMW?

[brittle totem]

That's nice but is it equipped with the theft alarm this time ?. Witch model is it a 3 series again or something new ?

[civic spoke]

116i

[stoic ledge]

Yup this one has Alarm Class 3

And it's a 1er now yes

Prices are crazy high atm, 3er was too much, but he wanted to get rid of the diesel

[civic spoke]

The only real reason I want a diesel. Is to take advantage of it with work.

[stoic ledge]

At work they only have electricity for the ID.3's 👀

But as he's often working from home because policy, but also due to medical conditions, he wasn't driving that much so the high road tax wasn't worth it anymore... And diesel is now also more expensive as petrol, and insurance for diesel is more as they expect you to do more miles... It was getting quite expensive

There was nothing wrong with the Volvo, and with 145k km barely broken in lol, but those reasons + it needing a timing belt and accessory belt at 150k, now was the time according to him

[brittle totem]

Is it a 116i ?

[stoic ledge]

Yes

The lovely N13

[brittle totem]

Have never seen a 116i with such a high spec here in Sweden. How much was it my brother is maybe replacing his Abarth 595 competizione with a F20 125i.

Her is the typical 116i in Sweden.

[stoic ledge]

Hehe not even an armrest or CC

I'll DM the price

Ngl there are a lot here like that as well

A spec like this is also quite rare here

[brittle totem]

didn't even notice that its probably open or something that cant be an optional extra on BMW.

[stoic ledge]

4AE is the option code for armrest, so it's probably an optional extra

[brittle totem]

What is even the base spec for f20 1 series. Can you get one without seats to ?

[stoic ledge]

If you ask for it, probably

That one in the picture also has an optional radio, I've seen them cheaper

premium

[brittle totem]

I like how the 116i has a sport+ mode buy my moms 225i only goes up to sport.

This seems to be the highest spec that I can find in Sweden. It has the optional adaptive cruise control witch isn't that common on f20 1 series even most 135-140i doesn't have it.

[stoic ledge]

ACC but small navi 👀

Yeah my brother's doesn't have ACC

[civic spoke]

Big screen would be mandatory for me

[stoic ledge]

Same

[civic spoke]

Small screen just looks so wrong

[stoic ledge]

This was the only one in a 50km radius <20k and <125k km with the large nav

[fathom socket]

meanwhile me with screen that it's black because of the heat

[stoic ledge]

@brittle totem this one doesn't have Sport+ tho, just Sport or Eco Pro?

[fathom socket]

I want to make my own sat nav one day

[stoic ledge]

With a RPi

[fathom socket]

yepo

I do have a RPi, but I need a screen and some modules

but it's gonna cost less then those aftermarket bullcrap that's overpriced

[civic spoke]

Most BMW's here are just pre-made cars. So they are often just bottom of the barrel spec.

[fathom socket]

I know it has an amp and big screen, but when they cost 300 euros and come with 1 GB of ram

[brittle totem]

I think it pops up on instrument cluster and you just need to press the sports mode again to engage sport+. Witch disable all of the driver's assistentes like stability and traction control.

[brittle totem]

Like this.

[fathom socket]

is there something else than eco pro?

[brittle totem]

Comfort ?

[fathom socket]

I mean different eco mode

[stoic ledge]

Ah uhm idk what all the modes are, I'm quarantined so my brother visited it alone, and he doesn't have it yet (needs to get a service etc)

But i'll have a look when he has it

[brittle totem]

I don't think so. And eco pro mode is kinda useless it doesn't help that much at all and the throttle response becomes super sluggishly pro tip dont try to overtake someone with the eco pro mode engaged.

[fathom socket]

eco pro mode sounds kinda weird and suggests me that there is a different eco mode

[civic spoke]

I'd be down for this. Problem is just the steep price.

2017 with 70,000 km's on it.

[brittle totem]

I like hot the 128ti is cheaper then a golf 8 gti. I would never choose a golf over a BMW 1 series for the same price is not less the news golf gti seems to go for like 50k.

[civic spoke]

I don't like the new 1 series.

Rather just have a Mk 7.5 GTI

And the older I get. The more I want a tow hook on my car...

[brittle totem]

The exterior is not that good looking bit I think the nailed the interior looks way better then a golf 8 in my opinion or the golf 8 gti just looks like a cheap copy of the 1 series interior. But then golf 8 has way better exterior then new 1 series.

iDrive from wish ?

[civic spoke]

Don't like the interior of the new 1 series with the screens and everything.

[hoary pine]

The eco pro mode feels more like range anxiety panic button when you desperately want a few more miles out of your last 1/10 tank of gas.

[civic spoke]

150,000 km's isn't that bad.

[brittle totem]

I would have gone for this but the mileage is a bit high on it. https://www.blocket.se/annons/ostergotland/bmw_125_i___m_sport___h_k___navi___skinn___218hk/100918506

[brittle totem]

And that steering wheel is bit ugly to this most of been tight before the good looking m sport steering wheel came out.

[civic spoke]

Here's a fun one.

Guess which engine this one has from the interior alone.

[brittle totem]

Can it be a 135i without the m performance package ?

[civic spoke]

M140i.

And it has the M sport package from what I can tell of the description.

Yeah, it does. Has the M sport calipers.

You can see the blue calipers there.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah so an 114d or M140i look identical insde

Well with M-Sport interior in the 114

[brittle totem]

If it called the M140I it has the m sport package otherwise is would have been called 140i but i don't think they exist in Sweden. Without the m sport package,

[civic spoke]

All 140i are M140i.

https://www.blocket.se/annons/stockholm/bmw_m140_i_5d_eu6_340hk_m_sport_harman_kardon/101557195

[brittle totem]

Here is an base m2 and it looks nearly the same the only differents is that is has leather seats.

[civic spoke]

Yeah. Most M1/2's with the manuals are base specs.

[hoary pine]

Which line of leather is that? Dakota?

[civic spoke]

Want.

[brittle totem]

Nah I want this one (:

[civic spoke]

That's been up for 'sale' for years and years.

[brittle totem]

Yeah because their is probably not that many swedes that is in the market for a real f1 car.

[stoic ledge]

So my brothers F20 has optioncode LEDE and LCL5, idk what type of leather that is

[brittle totem]

If you have the win number you can check it trough the m decoder website.

[hoary pine]

Nice, now many base config "leather" from BMW are Sensatec.
I think BMW don't sell them as leather but many dealer does, they feel close enough tho.

[stoic ledge]

Yeah I do have it, it's on the printout from the dealer with the options list the gave us, but I can type it over xD

[brittle totem]

the leather is not base the base option is "alcantara seats" on the M2 like the 140i that Glassbomb showed us. Basically the m2 and 1 series with m sport package has the exact same interior. Before the m2 got its facelift.

[brittle totem]

Probably the same type of leather but in a different color. And the red seats is pretty rare even on full m cars so on 116i it most be extremely rare.

[stoic ledge]

Transmission is wronk tho

But Leder Dakota

[brittle totem]

Didn't know that used Teslas was this "cheap" in Norway less then 23k$ for a used model s 85d with only 95865km on it.

[odd steppe]

Can someone tell Subaru to stop gimping its car batteries

We left for 2 weeks and our Outback's is dead. That car isn't even 2 years old. Everyone reports this lol.

[hoary pine]

Alcantara actually quite nice too, but it lack the touch of luxury only leather could offer.

[brittle totem]

I prefer Alcantara over leather. Its way more comfortable and it doesn't get hot during summer. The only advantage with leather is that it easier to clean then a alcantara seat.

[brittle totem]

Even a e61 with the a Tesla p85 drivetrain is way more expensive then that in Sweden.

[civic spoke]

Reported it to the FBI for you.

[stoic ledge]

Probably broken as all those early Model S's are

[stoic ledge]

Ngl heard it more this summer, not only from SubuWu drivers

[brittle totem]

Doesn't specify that it broken it has some scratches but not that bad. Some early model s here in Sweden has over 400000km on them that is still in good condition and drives perfectly fine.

[stoic ledge]

Very sure they all got critical stuff replaced by now 😛

Especially the early Model S's all break down

Motors, battery, door handles, all go

Hmmm the BMW has 6NS Enhanced Telephony With Extended Sm according to the decoder 🤔

[brittle totem]

Thats probely True the first gen parts was not that Great in terms of realibeilty have you seen that norwegian youtuber "Björn nyland" he hade like 3-4 break downs in old school model s and his founder edition model x wasnt that Great ehiter. But he drove alot to like 350,000kn in 3 years with both cars.

[stoic ledge]

I know the guy but haven't watched all his videos, actually I watched barely any of them

[brittle totem]

My moms car has that to i think it has something with the Bluetooth to or maybe is just another word for it so it sounds better. Or it can be that phone holder thing to in the arm rest.

[stoic ledge]

Ah no that's just the better bluetooth system which can copy you agenda and stuff, and also stream music

Wait base plate in center console

Ohno it has the cradle as well?

Ah wait that's for the X1

But maybe it's similar for the 1er

Ah no that's a generic overview

Hmmmmm

[brittle totem]

I can recommend if you want to se how smart people from or neighbor country really is (: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie79Jk9Ob2s

[brittle totem]

We have that in our active tourer so it probably a thing on the 1 series to.

[charred depot]

certified "suv"

[brittle totem]

Certified off-roader according to Norwegians so "good" that he thought it would be a good idea to take it on a muddy tracks for jeeps.

[lone fern]

There might be a ghost draw constantly pulling power

like the power hatch

could be a short

[hoary pine]

Ouch it hurt looking.
BTW that reminds me the Smart For two offroad commercial.

The commercial was pretty well played.

[wraith rivet]

anybody have a favorite a/c recharge kid that isn’t overpriced?

my a/c isn’t cold it’s just kinda cool

it’s supposed to be 108 in a few days so I definitely need it ice cold

[stoic ledge]

Doing AC stuff yourself here is illegal as far as I know

Also "recharge" is bad lol, vacuum it and refill it then

[stoic ledge]

It's basically what you'd expect from it offroad

[brittle totem]

Yeah like nearly all of the other new suvs/crossovers. But what did he expect would happened with it on a muddy track that just real off road vehicles should be driving on.

[stoic ledge]

Heh yeah all the FWD 1.something liter "sUv"'s

Can barely drive over a speedbump in the snow

But the views were probably worth more than the damage to the car

I'm certain he made money on that video

Especially with the repair coming up in a separate video

[charred depot]

I need to get the gear ratio's off the 305's gearbox to calculate how much the engine is revving

It can achieve almost 80mph at many many rpm's for a old diesel

Can only achieve a band A fine in a 60 or 70

maybe if I wash it the aero will improve