public-chat

[lyric sun]

It was meant for Linus but then I got flagged by rule 8 lol

Because I tagged him

[hardy pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/sealyx-naked-gun-the-naked-gun-facepalm-facepalm-meme-gif-11743768702765397589

[alpine gale]

Ah, so not something you should be pinging mods for then. If you need to contact LMG for official business purpoises, using the official contact form is the best way. https://linusmediagroup.com/contact

[lyric sun]

Ok. thanks

[vapid smelt]

Then who have I been subscribing to on feet finder?!

[hardy pilot]

damn

[versed hedge]

realtek 8111H (2015) running natively on DOS

[echo path]

Chat I did the most jank macbook thermal paste replacement

[snow magnet]

I did the non replacement on my Mac

because I don't want to break it taking it apart

[echo path]

Non replacement?

[snow magnet]

I didn't dust or replace the paste 👍

In fact I haven't even opened it up yet, which I would normally do with any second hand computer I buy

[echo path]

Tbh I'd do the same with such an expensive laptop

The one i replaced tho was an old ahh 2013 mbp retina

[hollow token]

hey bro watch out bro I see ur IP address

[vapid smelt]

Who is brutman

[echo path]

That doesn't really do anything except give ur approximate location

[hollow token]

also I think it's just the router login page

but true

[versed hedge]

who tf knows he made the mTCP thing that provides the TCP thing

[versed hedge]

it is and even if it was my public IP, im behind a CGNAT, T-Mobile so it would show me in Minneapolis and not my actual location

[hollow token]

inb4 ur tim walz

[craggy comet]

yo wsg yall

can anyone help i linked my ltt fourm account and its not giving me the rolee

[winged spire]

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/o-t-lounge/spacex-to-acquire-30000-acres-in-vermilion-parish-for-spaceport/123435584/

A louisiana based spaceport is possible... @vapid smelt

[remote berry]

and there is no errors at all

[orchid walrus]

Just watched the RGDS video and boy do i have a few comments.

[snow magnet]

it's an Imac that I bought for $20

if it was one of the old CRT ones I would've taken it apart by now

[versed kelp]

Oh wait this is public chat

[echo path]

$20 💀 where did you find that

Absolute cheapest old imac i could find was $80

Also, do they make good monitors?

[snow magnet]

Richmond SPCA thrift store#tech-chat-1 message

[snow magnet]

forgot to mention, $20CAD

fully working

not even wiped HDD so I got all the old owner's Adobe licences for free

[echo path]

wild

Also is discord crashing for y'all as well or is that just me

[snow magnet]

nope

just you I gues

[vapid smelt]

Then would you buy an RV to camp outside the site?

[winged spire]

Lmao

Might buy a plot of land down there lol

[frail socket]

Just me but https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/378331971627122688 is buggen out

[north escarp]

Pretty much

[harsh quartz]

boomer

[echo path]

Man, I might move to bc just for that

Tho I would end up broke and with a house full of tech :kek

[shut lichen]

<@&750150305383186585>

[sage kite]

😮

would yall rather have a lightning 5090 or a astral 5090?

https://giphy.com/gifs/cute-pokemon-spheal-PolhGubb9tpbP2Y3mg

[wide ginkgo]

Bro why is even SD card prices raising up now??? From $28 to $75 now

What is this? I demand the price go back right now

[acoustic ruin]

I got a 512gb SD card for 50 quid

[gilded quest]

because all flash storage is slowly being consumed by scam altman

[west oar]

that one

[hollow token]

Your data centers need the precious chips

[wide ginkgo]

But they told me it only effect ram, this is SD card

[wide ginkgo]

Imma need this right now

[gusty leaf]

storage and ram is made by the same factories

[alpine gale]

Who is they? They should have told you it will affect anything that uses Flash NAND chips.

[wide ginkgo]

The TV news, and maybe the part of me that want to believe this whole ramcalypse will not affect me

[alpine gale]

Ah yeah... The TV news are mostly out of touch with anything related to tech. Or economics. Or literally anything that actually matters to society, because those things are boring and boring doesn't sell advertising spots so...

[acoustic ruin]

Sell me your kidney

[north escarp]

Be a shame if the same news company in 2 diffrent demographic areas spit 2 flip flop stories

[pine palm]

hi

[north escarp]

If im being really honest in all these years we can go to the moon but we cant put a whale back in the ocean 10 feet away most times

Like idkk theres problems is all im sayin

[west oar]

wait so dust covering the entire pc is fine until it overheats?

[north escarp]

We suggest cleaning it often, but yeah

[west oar]

i haven’t opened it since like june of last year

[north escarp]

I mean as long as the dust bunny doesnt ignite I suppose. Better sooner then never

[west oar]

i got spider webs, multiple through out the case

[north escarp]

Keks ive seen some builds in here, a dusting will do ya

[west oar]

maybe i should just clean the filter and let the rest be

[north escarp]

If you'd like

[covert cradle]

well, no, but they do share enough equipment that a factory production line could be converted. The DRAM node sizes for HBM4(+) and DDR5+ are much smaller than any of the large-scale NAND flash nodes

[north escarp]

As long as youre not using it as a scratch and sniff no reason for concern

[west oar]

i can still feel air passibg through

[north escarp]

But i do recommend cleaning it outside

[uneven stirrup]

Apparently my fans were wired incorrectly… and that explains why my 9800x3d was always at 85°C playing games using my aio smh

It’s now sitting at 40°C smh

Guess it goes to show how easy the 9800x3d is to cool

coughs intel 270 plus 300w

[north escarp]

Im convinced whess tried cleaning out that dust and has perished

Here he lies, fare thee well

[uneven stirrup]

I love that Intel is trying though… but damn 300watt is wild to just match the 9800x3d almost 110% more power than the 9800x3d

[north escarp]

Next gens gonna be noiceee if we can get the pricing under control

[uneven stirrup]

I agree, I think Intel still needs to figure out their power situation though… I have an Intel laptop… and it 100% has a power leak cause it gets only 2 hours of battery life with a 75wh battery

[gilded quest]

I agree, I think AMD still needs to figure out their power situation though… I have an AMD laptop… and it 100% has a power leak cause it gets only 2 hours of battery life with a 76wh battery

[uneven stirrup]

I think all companies need to figure out power management on mobile

[gilded quest]

where 300W in gaming?

[uneven stirrup]

Besides Apple… they kinda figured it out

[uneven stirrup]

More cpu bound it can hit 300w

The max the 9800x3d can do it 150w than that’s only after a insane oc

[gilded quest]

there is a CPU vendor and there also exists the integration OEM (oh yeah lets not forget windows too)
some laptop vendors are just pieces of shit

[covert cradle]

multiple serious issues, horrible products, etc

[gilded quest]

in most games most of the time you just aren't going to draw anywhere near 300W

don't get me wrong, intel will still suck back near 300W in cinebench on CU270K+, but that isn't a gaming workload

[uneven stirrup]

I’m just concerned how much power they can draw…

[gilded quest]

again, not 300

[uneven stirrup]

It’s not close to the 9800x3d in efficiency… can we say that at least?

[gilded quest]

I am concerned with how much AMD is using

so much power for no gains over 9800x3d kek

[covert cradle]

Did they test any cpu heavy games? RT Ultra gaming isn't usually all that cpu heavy. Something like CS2 I assume

[gilded quest]

I don't see provided power numbers for any of those

[covert cradle]

rip. most esports games should be relatively cpu-heavy presumably, but tbh I'm not an esports gamer (except deadlock)

[gilded quest]

whats an esports game

bruh wtf

how is counter strike 62GB

[covert cradle]

er, fps esports in particular. Games that would heavily prioritize framerate to make the game ideally fairer

[covert cradle]

damn, I don't remember it being that massive but I haven't played since it was named cs:go

[gilded quest]

i really don't think any esports title should draw that much power on CPU

i'd expect a sim like stellaris to be more power intensive

[uneven stirrup]

I do wonder how next gen x3d will be… efficiency and new gains on the architectural will be nice to see

[gilded quest]

in overwatch 2 with my original max settings, i was pulling 120W at 270FPS on 270K+
i set settings to low, hit engine cap of 300 FPS, and dropped to 50W

[covert cradle]

that's true only if you set an fps limit (which honestly, everyone should and it's often default). It depends on the game/engine, but they can hit the CPU pretty hard

[uneven stirrup]

My laptop cpu draws more ;-;

Intel 275hx

[gilded quest]

im sure you can bios fuckery your way into 300W while gaming on 270K+, but out of the box, it simply doesn't draw that much power (considering how much silicon there is)

[uneven stirrup]

I really like how efficient apples chips are and their apus

Like M5

[gilded quest]

apple chips could be tasty

[uneven stirrup]

Imagine they could run x86…

(Non emulators ofc)

I know it’s arm…. Just suspend disbelief

What makes apples chips so much more efficient? Like the a19pro is so insane for the battery life it gets

[gilded quest]

I think the most important factor is the insane amount of control apple has between the hardware and the software

[uneven stirrup]

Even then… Fortnite can run at 120fps using only 5-8watts.. like bro….

[gilded quest]

You lost me at fortnite

[uneven stirrup]

Uhhh idk… that’s the only high fps shooter besides like pubg

[covert cradle]

meanwhile my 12700h sucking 45W after hitting 70W but thermal throttling to hell and back all for an unstable 60-70fps

even in performance mode or w/e it was called I barely broke 120fps

but tbf to Intel, that's more on the laptop brand Multiple Serious Issues

[gilded quest]

Yeah you can design a laptop to cool an HX properly or you can design a laptop to thermal throttle a U series i3

[compact zephyr]

Don't even get me started on cooling for celeron/pentiumin laptops

[eternal trail]

i love using my autism for good

[pliant karma]

Lol you summed up the hp streams I dealt with in high school

passively usable is the best I can describe

[eternal trail]

i'll update yall when i actually get it but i may have just scored an Asus TUF B365M plus for 18$ plus tax

[graceful jackal]

Where can i ask about monitor buying advice im new here

[winged spire]

Love when they’ve got a fuckton of different payloads

45 on the launch tonight

[compact zephyr]

#peripherals would be your best option

[summer folio]

Librarys should have free to use 3D-printers

[alpine gale]

Lots do - you usually just pay for the supplies you use, and maybe a small, one time "booking fee" of $5 or something like that.

[long briar]

Can confirm - the public libraries here are 10c per gram of filament which.. is 10x the actual cost of filament but is a good price for what is effectively printer rental

[inland dagger]

not an advertisement, but seeking opinions:

https://colorwall.xyz

[torpid ice]

Very suspicious… don’t know if I want to download that. :P

[violet girder]

👋

[gleaming cove]

People are hating on the new Run menu for being faster than the old one 💀

[inland dagger]

welp, lots of people are using it, and you can run it through virus scans.

[inland dagger]

in the download page there is a virustotal link

[silver sun]

823

[tribal wyvern]

Man why are people hating on the MacBook Neo. Remind me when the ThinkPad has pretty colours, only thing that stops me buying one is the RAM

If it had 16 GB of RAM, easy purchase. I'd never be seen dead w a gaming laptop because i barely play games lol

[rose horizon]

I’m debating between getting a MacBook or HP so I can start building a home lab

[tribal wyvern]

Never fucking buy HP

Absolute shithole of a machine

If you absolutely need a Windows laptop: ASUS or Lenovo and basically forgot everyone else exists is my advice

[rose horizon]

What about Dell? Are those pretty solid for running Linux?

[tribal wyvern]

Yeah Dell is fine

[rose horizon]

I found a website that has a ton of practice exams for the compTi A+ since my goal is to get into a help desk role, certs help but I’ve read that employers like when you’ve built your own projects and home lab

[tribal wyvern]

But as someone who uses Linux, it's still garbage in 2026 unfortunately

I would HIGHLY recommend against it

[gleaming cove]

HP is fine for it's price
ig hinge is the problem?

[tribal wyvern]

Unless you literally just use it for browsing or gaming, then it's fine. Good luck with any creative tasks on it

[rose horizon]

I already have a degree even though it’s not tech related so that still looks decent, if I could redo things, I’d probably do an tech major even though the overall job market is rough right now

The big factors is building projects plus an home lab, and networking, last one is hard for me because I’m introverted as heck irl

[gleaming cove]

Thinkpad with a skin?

[pliant karma]

LG or HP hinge problem lol?

[gleaming cove]

ig: i guess

[pliant karma]

ah confused me for a second.

[gleaming cove]

I changed it to the lower case i instead of I 👍

[pliant karma]

Yea depends on the model you get the hinge is first to go when dropped.

[gleaming cove]

256GB storage also is an issue imo

[pliant karma]

tbf this is a Hp 2017 Pavillion

but damn for how this family friend dropped it was enough to crack the shell.

[gleaming cove]

that sucks
As long as no one drops it or doesnt have a hinge issue on it's own, I think HP laptops are good value for their price

[pliant karma]

And the older decomissioned buisness line is a deal to be had too

[rose horizon]

Stepped out for a second, but I’m curious, do I need Linux to build a home lab?

[pliant karma]

That's if companies are willing to sell it now with the longer wait times and all for them to get new equipment.

Cause I was supposed to get a shipment of them, but place I use to work at told me they're holding onto them till things get better.

[rose horizon]

I already have practice exam material and I’m trying to find some IT courses to get familiar, but the home lab and projects (I’m thinking 3 to 4 quality projects is a good number) are going to help just as much as getting a cert

[pliant karma]

I do however have permission to grab a couple of servers...I just have to rent a car and drive 7 hours up north to pick it up.

[gleaming cove]

Please tell me the 7 hours drive is a scenic route... 7 Hours driving straight is so boring

[pliant karma]

Yea it's scenic

And in an area that gets foggy at night so I gotta time the drive correctly to avoid it.

Since I am not staying the night in that town, so ima just head back after.

[gleaming cove]

Isn't there like a train or some other method you could use instead of you driving for 7 hours-

[pliant karma]

To transport servers back home no bingo.

[gleaming cove]

Soo 14 hours continuous drive? That's certainly a good idea

[pliant karma]

I've done that before

different but close

[gleaming cove]

wow
Get someone else to go with you

[pliant karma]

Back in December a family friend had one of his clients hacked so I was working with him plus 2 others for 48+ hours before Christmas to get them back online.

[gleaming cove]

You can do it in Windows itself, and if you need to learn Linux for anything, you could use WSL

[pliant karma]

Plus driving up north again to pick up equipment and back but otherwise I have that really odd ability to run days without much sleep once or twice throughout the year lol.

[gleaming cove]

Well, since you are driving for 14 hours, make sure to get good sleep before and after

[pliant karma]

Yea

[rose horizon]

So I don’t necessarily need to learn Linux for IT? I’m just trying to figure out the best way I can set myself up with a good system of studying/learning a field that’s kind of new to me, I’m good with troubleshooting on computers but this is going to be at another level

[rustic tundra]

you know linux is completely optional

[weak sluice]

It doesn’t matter what you use, but most use linux for server. Running headless, no gui will use way way less resources than a windows desktop

[rustic tundra]

we arent that resource starved to spare those few megabytes for not rendering a gui

[weak sluice]

Not that many companies use proxmox yet (i feel like they moving over slowly). Proxmox is really fun to use even with slow hardware

[rustic tundra]

i would still put regular w11 on the shittiest hardware possible

[weak sluice]

That being said i myself love to be more knowledgeable about windows servers

[weak sluice]

You doing something wrong if you not seeking every ounce of resource from you hardware

[rose horizon]

I have a Samsung Chromebook and those are usually horrid for running servers

[weak sluice]

I probably spend 90% of my time optimising my homelab for performance and security

[rose horizon]

I help my family with a reselling business and I’ve started to make some cash off it, so I could easily rack up more cash this month to save for a better laptop

I haven’t had as much luck with applying to jobs as of late the past few months so I’m ready to try something different and I at least enjoy learning anything related to tech

[rustic tundra]

thats a little stretch

what if i got enough resources

that extra 1gb of vram and 5gb of ram isnt a concern

1gb used vram might be a concern for those running 2 or 4gb gpus

2gb vram is absolutely getting killed these days

bought a 960 2gb and vram was maxed at THE DESKTOP with few apps open

at 4k*

[weak sluice]

You should only have a decent amount of headroom otherwise you just paid for hardware that not being used. Such a waste!

[white finch]

eye of rah

[rustic tundra]

eye of thra

[white finch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cyclops-one-eye-cat-JofHog9vnUwQj9bXBN

...

fahhhhh

[rustic tundra]

vram and ram isnt a concern for me

16 and 32 is plenty for my use case

[weak sluice]

You not listening

[rough socket]

Well I'd say 90% of the skill required to do a homelab is knowing Linux lol

[rustic tundra]

ram sure is a concern for servers

thats why linux is a choice

[rose horizon]

Someone earlier said it’s optional if I want to learn 😭

[rough socket]

It's just simpler and easier that's all

If you do a homelab on windows you'll use docker, which is a techno used a lot for that, but docker will run in the background in a Linux virtual machine...

So you'll still be using Linux....

The applications you'll want to run won't exist on windows that's all

[rose horizon]

I have a MacOs (Samsung Chromebook, which I’ve said is dookie) but I’m pretty sure I can run Linux on there, haven’t looked at any Windows servers. I have to put in some time on it and also look at which distro is going to run smoother

[rough socket]

Only thing you can do with windows is a network shared folder and I guess some form of software raid

[rose horizon]

Linux it is then

[rough socket]

What's the plan?

[rose horizon]

Well, I have to go to service with my religious folks later today so that usually takes up a large chunk of my time

Sundays kind of throw a wrench if I’m trying to plan something after

[rough socket]

Just install some stuff and try them out? You can use docker on macos/windows for that, it will run Linux in the background (well idk for macos) and won't be that great but you'll be able to launch your apps with it

If it's to make a real server you'll use.... Just use Linux believe me it will be 100x easier

[rose horizon]

That’s what I’m thinking. I might have to update to the newest version of MacOS before I start on downloading docker

I haven’t updated it in a good while

[rough socket]

Again, if it's just to spin up some random docker containers to look at the apps sure go for it on your main os

If it's to make any real server, install Linux on a real server

I didn't understand what was your goal

[rose horizon]

My goal’s to see if I can download Linux since there’s a developer setting on my MacOS that features being able to run it, or if it not I can do Docker since you mentioned it can run Linux in the background anyways

[rough socket]

Docker doesn't run Linux, docker runs on Linux *

Though I don't know how it works on macos

[rose horizon]

Ah, I see. I’m pretty new to this lol

[rose horizon]

I could probably check on some subreddits or ask in a post

[rough socket]

It doesn't matter

[dim agate]

linux isn't THAT difficult to learn for home servers

[rough socket]

You are clear with what you want

Do you want to make a real useful server or so you just want to f around with docker for 1 hour?

[dim agate]

you don't need to know that much, you just gotta learn how to move directories, edit files, use grep sorta, use systemctl, and like troubleshoot a little bit

[rough socket]

It's more like it's literally easier than anything else if you want a home server

Pretty sure I would be in a psychiatric hospital if my job was managing windows / macos servers instead of Linux ones

[dim agate]

yeah for home server use you don't actually need to know all that much about using linux since most things are premade off templates anyways, unless you're making something completely custom. then you might need to know a bit more

i cant imagine running macos server, windows is still ok

[rose horizon]

The first one

[rough socket]

OK

Do you have a dedicated computer for that?

Like a physical one separated from your mac

[rustic tundra]

im a windows shill but when it comes to anything that isnt a regular pc stuff i would recommend linux

[dim agate]

every homelab thing i run is either on a linux server or docker container

[rough socket]

Which runs inside a Linux vm anyway lol

[dim agate]

they're all running in linux vms

[rough socket]

99% of my services run on a nixos server and I have a few podman containers

[dim agate]

or an lxc container off a linux template

these are all linux

[white finch]

are the 5700x3d 5800x3d basicly the same or close enough

[rough socket]

What's the difference between basically the same and close enough

[atomic geyser]

hey guys so like i think these new AI benchmarks are pretty useless so i made a website which kind of uses the prediction market logic of wisdom of the crowds to actually know if a model is better or worse by polling.. dm me if you want the link

[cyan lion]

@glacial merlin

[frigid frost]

it does have an indent but 80€ and its negotiable?

dude even provided which one it is

its 1766 (H) x 800 (B) x 800 (T) mm

its 1,766 Meters tall

[rough socket]

What do you want to do with that

[frigid frost]

like I dont have a Server but I could buy one

[rough socket]

we are in 2026 for any home server a random normal case with consumer hardware is more than enough for anybody

This will be super noisy, servers for that will be either super expensive or super old etc etc

When you could just buy a mini pc base n100 that will consume virtually nothing, be silent, super small and you'll be able to run lots of stuff on it

Or just build a normal computer with a case that can take multiple HDDs, have the liberty to choose the cpu/ram etc and have something not noisy nor power hungry

Inside something like that you can even have lots of storage

Considering you can have 10-20TB per drive .... yeah I think it will be enough

No need for anything rackable

As for the networking, you will just need 1 switch
It doesn't need to be big, probably a 8-12 2.5GbE is enough even if you have a house with multiple rooms

Those are super small and don't take up a rack

So yeah, 80eur for a chunk of bent metal that will be noisy, not pratical, big, brings nothing and push you towards outdated expensive and power hungry hardware isn't interesting imo

[modern wraith]

hi!

[pallid falcon]

hi!

[dim agate]

??? 😭

[frigid frost]

Buy a server so I can say I got this server rack for dirt cheap

[dim agate]

what would you do with the server

do you have any plans or are you just buying it to buy it

[frigid frost]

It is a steal, dont have to put anything in it, or give it to the office

[dim agate]

if you put nothing in it, it's a scam

[frigid frost]

I have an av receiver i could put in it

[dim agate]

sure go ahead buy it

[frigid frost]

But im prop not gonna buy it, it would be a steal tho for someone building a xxl home lab

[pallid falcon]

power bill

[frigid frost]

At first i was looking for like a 50cm tall one and thought it would be like a small one, it didnt look like it eas 1.8 meters in the pictures

[hardy pilot]

Yes but second hand server hardware has features that consumer hardware will never have (ex:
ipmi)

[rough socket]

which is utterly useless vs all the drawbacks and you can also just buy the kvm ip thingy that I don't remember the name but will do the same

[hardy pilot]

Yeah, but I like my stuff to be builtin, it stoopid but there’s one less failure point

[frigid frost]

And if you like think that i paid 100€ for my nzxt h6 flow

[toxic crown]

hi

[vernal kelp]

Hi

[hardy pilot]

Wasn’t it this case that liked to burn?

[rough socket]

It's almost the same failure point and if it fails you can't change it or you need to change the whole mobo so idk

[uncut moat]

Hi

[hardy pilot]

Indeed, (consumer platform really don’t have a lot of pcie lanes tho)

[frigid frost]

Idk

[rough socket]

You don't really lots of pcie lanes

You'll put at most 2 SSD for the os and lots of hdd, any consumer hardware can handle that

Usually no gpu too so that helps

[hardy pilot]

For an all purpose server, you might need said lanes, for bulk storage you’ll need hba and/or sata controllers, etc, (im currently suffering from a lack of pcie lanes on am4)

[rough socket]

You won't ever need those

You can have 100TB of raid storage and multiple SSD for the OS on consumer hardware without any issue

[hardy pilot]

I need those, for my storage server, I’ll never have the money for ssd bulk storage

[rough socket]

yeah and you can have sata controllers on consumer grade hardware

except if you buy 40 2TB hdd ....

But we have 10-20TB HDD nowadays ...

[solid copper]

hii

[hardy pilot]

I need 11 drives with minimum 2 dgpus with and with am4 i can only get a lot of x1 or x4 wired slots

[rough socket]

yeah that's because you buy low density drives

[viscid elm]

why not just buy one 40TB HDD?

[viscid elm]

idle power use is going to be higher than my entire apartment

[rough socket]

Not 1, but a few 10+ TB ones yes

[hardy pilot]

Im not a millionaire and I need redundancy

[rough socket]

Well price per TB is lower with bigger drives

[viscid elm]

eh to a point

the ultra high like the 40TB's are ofc more spensive per TB vs smaller ones

[rough socket]

of course

[viscid elm]

from what iv seen 18-20 is the best price per TB range

[rough socket]

But the lowest price per tb is usually around 10 to 18TB per drive

[viscid elm]

i just use pcpartpickers price per tb thing

[hardy pilot]

I have a 750 80+ gold psu, I’ll need a 800-850 waters psu once im upgrading to an epyc 7452 (155 watts)

[hardy pilot]

Im not paying 430 CAD for a general use (not even rated for 24/7 power on time) 4-8tb drive

[viscid elm]

7432?

[hardy pilot]

Sorry, forgor to say 7452 epyc cpu

[viscid elm]

ah

[hardy pilot]

Pretty good deal for 32c/64t and 128 pcie lanes

[viscid elm]

what do you need it for

[hardy pilot]

Cores for VMs and lanes for gpu and hba/sata controller

And also high speed networking

[hollow token]

Does Linus ever post or see this place

[hardy pilot]

Last message is from like 2019 if I remember correctly

[hollow token]

I want a nas so bad

I wanna make a huge collection of old game ROMs and store my photos and music on it so I can detach from Google photos and Spotify

Fuck off temu

[undone mountain]

just noticed my mouse is turning 7 years old today

[slender lark]

Is it boy or girl

[undone mountain]

may 3rd when i got her and man g502 hero this thing is still a beauty

2019

thats 2 relationships fellas a car crash and now im graduating my bachelors degree

[slender lark]

Send photo of your mouse

[undone mountain]

sure one sec lemme get my phone

[undone mountain]

Here ya go

Quite some gunk on it and a scratch on the rubber but still usable

[slender lark]

Dude i thought you had a pet mouse

But its a pc mouse

[undone mountain]

Hahaha wait what

Brother i mentioned a g502s

[slender lark]

I thought you got a pc mouse and pet mouse

[undone mountain]

Fair nough

Anyways any good mouse yall could recommend thats almost the same as my g502 heros

Love the weights on it

[slender lark]

A pet mouse

[hardy pilot]

Another g502

[undone mountain]

Got one back at 2013 but my uncle cooked it sooo nahhh taste like chicken if i remember correctly (mountain mouse not a city one)

[slender lark]

Eat your g502 then

[undone mountain]

Fair nough but theres no other brands thats almost same as the g502s right

[undone mountain]

If i do that id prolly be eating years
Worth of gunk sweat solder flux lotion proly some snacks etc etc

Soo ill pass

[slender lark]

Did you ever clean it

[undone mountain]

I did prolly 6months ago maybe 8

[graceful tangle]

"Apple! Shut up and Take My Money!" is something I thought I'd never say!
I just want to watch F1!

[uncut moat]

hi

[chilly egret]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-sabastian-legacies-gif-21836937

[graceful tangle]

To 🏴‍☠️ or to claim 🇨🇦 (VPN)... that is the question...

[west oar]

the metal on the scroll wheel of mine is oxidizing

[chilly egret]

Path of least resistance so no race time missed

[uncut moat]

wow

[hexed haven]

Found this dinosaur

[winged spire]

Crispy

[harsh quartz]

Man, turning off YouTube shorts just kinda resets the algorithm huh

[pallid falcon]

Wawa

[harsh quartz]

Wa

[hardy pilot]

Gotta fill the empty space somehow

[winged spire]

https://x.com/wholemars/status/2050510254103028123?s=46

Whole Mars Catalog (@wholemars)

U.S. loyalty rates by make, February 2026

1. Tesla — 61.1%
2. Subaru — 60.5%
3. Toyota — 59.9%
4. Ferrari — 59.7%
5. Honda — 58.2%
6. Ford — 57.8%
7. Lucid — 57.9%
8. Chevrolet — 56.7%
9. Nissan — 55.7%
10. Mercedes-Benz — 54.7%
11. BMW — 52.9%
12. Kia — 52.9%
13. Hyundai —

X · May 2, 2026, 9:38 AM

Kinda shocked at how high lucid is

And Chevy

Chevrolet makes SHIT vehicles

[harsh quartz]

That doesn’t really matter tho

[keen current]

hello guys ... i'm new here
i'm a third-year computer science engineering (cse) student ... with specialization in cybersecurity
i'm based in mumbai ... but planning to go to canada or australia for masters

[rustic tundra]

cool

[gilded quest]

Subaru buyers are insufferable

[winged spire]

It absolutely does

[alpine gale]

No need to send the same message repeatedly...

[harsh quartz]

Not when talking about us vehicles in the US, they’ve been making shit vehicles for 20 years, if it hadn’t changed yet, it ain’t gonna

[winged spire]

You don’t get brand loyalty by regularly making shit vehicles 🤷

[hardy pilot]

Oof

[harsh quartz]

Tell that to any US company or stellantis

[tidal pawn]

anyone know where i can get a windows xp download

[dusky jacinth]

Which ones?

[gilded quest]

All of them

[dusky jacinth]

I don't see how exactly, but okay.

[gilded quest]

Here in Oregon it's like 60% of the population and they never SHUT THE FUCK UP about their subarus

[dusky jacinth]

Well down here in Florida it's so par for the course, almost no one mentions anything about their car and have only some good and/or bad to say about them.

Now it just sounds like a location basis then. Lol.

[gilded quest]

I mean Subaru sells significantly higher in the PNW and Colorado than the rest of the country

I'd imagine if someone in Florida was talking about their Subaru, they would use words such as "my car"

Here they use words such as "my 2023 Subaru outback wilderness edition"

[dusky jacinth]

Well, they'd either just say the brand name, "my car", or the general model without mentioning much else. You'd probably even have them have to check their own car again just to remember what other details there are about it, like with the trim and package.

[hollow token]

Do you know chevrolet?

GM is the best American vehicle manufacturer

(Japanese cars are still the best)

[hollow token]

Libland

Idk why I keep getting laugh reacted. Gm consistently rates high in safety, rates low in recalls and collision severity, and ranges greatly in the affordable and the luxurious

Of the American brands, its the best. But also the best American brand is below the average Japanese brand

[dusky jacinth]

Well, except Nissan.

[hollow token]

Thats fair lmao

Aren't they supposed to be merging with honda

[pliant karma]

"Were" the deal fell through last year

Though I think they're talking again, we'll see how that plays out.

[gilded quest]

oh no, people here express humanity and compassion, the horrors 😱

[bold cliff]

I’m aware of the ram shortages but when did steam decks secondhand become so expensive???

I’m looking at a 512 gb lcd and they go for around $500-$600

[gilded quest]

new steam decks have increasingly become OOS -> used pricing goes up

[gilded quest]

yeah new decks just don't exist now

[silver sun]

824

[frigid goblet]

Good because they are way too expensive

5 year old hardware for the same price

[craggy comet]

i’d pay 600 for a 1tb nvme and 16gb of DDr5

like in today’s economy

[hollow token]

825

[hollow token]

Hot take its more cost effective to get a phone controller (like a backbone) and stream your games

[fossil frost]

how is it a "hot take"... that its cheaper to buy a cheap controller, plug it into your £1000 device you already own, and pay for yet another subscription service? instead of owning something else that is also expensive?

of course its cheaper to buy a cheaper thing to augment something expensive. when you dont take into account the cost of the expensive thing you already own

[hollow token]

A hot take means its the uncommon take

You're demonstrating why its a hot take

[alpine gale]

They're also the American company that's cost taxpayers the most amount of money for bailouts when they should have been left to go bankrupt. 😅

[fossil frost]

a hot take means its a controversial take

[hollow token]

Yup its uncommon

[gusty leaf]

cloudslopper 🫵

[hollow token]

Bro I mean your own hardware

[fossil frost]

no, it can be common, and controversial. and it can be uncommon, but also not controversial... controversial makes it "hot"

they are different non-exclusive things

[harsh quartz]

Is it really the most? I figured that would be one of the banks or Boeing?

[alpine gale]

I clarified "for bailouts" - my bad. I don't know if any other US company that's been bailed out as much as GM. Maybe there are others. Also, banks should never need to be bailed out. Ever. Period. If you have to bail out a bank, someone fucked up or was committing fraud.

[harsh quartz]

A hot take would also imply it’s an opinion, you said that a cheaper thing is cheaper, that’s not really an opinion tbh

[restive lion]

theyre keeping boeing WELL fed, no need for bailouts there

[harsh quartz]

That’s fair, doesn’t need a bailout if you just have a steady steam keeping them above water

[fossil frost]

didnt ford get 10s of billions, despite being highly profitable at the time, just because they asked for it, and everyone else got one, so the govt couldnt really deny ford without breaching some stupid rule of some sort?

[hollow token]

Fords second shit

Dodge should've been left to die

[fossil frost]

boeing can keep their head above water by pushing bankers out of windows 🙂

"you owe us money" "what a shame that you, deleted yourself.. by shooting yourself... twice"

[harsh quartz]

Looks like GM got about 12 billion out of the bailout, and Boeing is sitting at about 16 billion, but not explicitly for bailouts

At least per Google

[fossil frost]

also... today i learned, that the badge range on an EV is with "typical" driving.. and i have no idea who they used for "typical" driving.. because even with my lead foot, and my... excitable... driving style.. im getting WAY more range out of my car than it says on the manual

[harsh quartz]

But tbf they do have to account other things that take energy like AC into the average

And your probably not cranking the AC or heaters today

[restive lion]

im cranking my AC today

[harsh quartz]

Why? Is it already bad where you’re at?

[alpine gale]

Same. It's hot out. 27 C where I'm at. (I'm the type who will walk the beach in shorts and a t-shirt when it's 10 C outside, so anything above 25 C is "too hot" for me.)

[fossil frost]

i never have the climate control turned off.. its always set to 19c.. be that warming me up or cooling me down.. the regen braking on my car more.. MORE than covers that though

[restive lion]

high of 26 in vancouver

[harsh quartz]

Oh, welp, it’s 70 today at the highest, was 40 last night and it’s supposed to stay fairly low

[restive lion]

it was like 11 last week

[fossil frost]

what i CANT find out is if they measure "typical" with regen on max

[harsh quartz]

It’s supposed to keep raining this week and I’m so glad cause ren faire is this coming weekend and I want to to stay cool and windy

[restive lion]

back to saskatchewan with you

[harsh quartz]

Probably not

[alpine gale]

Ick. No. I like the ocean too much.

[restive lion]

nova scotia then

[harsh quartz]

Looks like about 21-22 is where I start to bow out, I like it to be 60s, 70 maximum

[fossil frost]

tbh, i adapt quite well, its sudden changes that i dont like. ie. i was in egypt a few years ago when it was 37c every day outside (a cool day aparently) and was fine after the 3rd day... didnt notice unless i was going into or out of the air conditioned hotel

i also warm up in the cold very quickly too. i run in shorts and tshirt all year round, people look at me like i have something wrong with me when i go running in minus 10c in shorts and tshirt... because if i was to wear anything else, i would burst into flames after about 10 minutes

[hollow token]

You like 22f?

If so fair enough I like the cold too. Just a lotta f/c mixture happening rn

[rough socket]

what's "loyalty rates"

[rough socket]

You can see how those number are calculated, it's a precise protocol

[hardy pilot]

Saskatchewan gotta be one of the most boring province

[frail socket]

it is

actually nah

its quebec

[hardy pilot]

shush

[frail socket]

nuhuh

french bad

[hollow token]

Saskatchewan sounds like a Canadian version of siberia

[echo path]

fr

[frail socket]

How am i wrong???

[hardy pilot]

it sounds like it, but it really isn't

[hardy pilot]

Saskatchewan is worse

[hollow token]

Whats out there besides labor and grocery stores

[frail socket]

idk man

french...

[hardy pilot]

it's flatter than me (and I'm fucking flat)

very boring

[echo path]

Quebec's provincial rules are worse tho

[frail socket]

indeed

[hasty wyvern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194726153672462397/1500601432519344281/4cd96005-38ae-434a-be6f-e6829a907199.jpg?ex=69f9077d&is=69f7b5fd&hm=b9df74137557fc8cc80cdc95663aa2030a7b350dfa82edb5cb2ee6da5456bc7f& guys reset the counter

only the white is still available

[hardy pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-sigh-gif-5895699729383201961

sadge

[twin raft]

It's like an art piece

Just pour epoxy in it to fill the gaps and you can hold it together

And then put it back on

[hardy pilot]

[twin raft]

You can have a unique side panel

[hasty wyvern]

I'm not going to risk shredding my hands piecing it all together

[twin raft]

No balls

[hardy pilot]

tempered glass is made to break in non shark edges (iirc)

[hasty wyvern]

I would hope you don't get sharks from tempered glass

[hardy pilot]

shonks?

https://tenor.com/view/shonk-shonks-shark-sharks-blahaj-gif-23835377

[ancient mulch]

leenus

[harsh quartz]

No, I’m clearly talking about c

[echo path]

Same, anything above that is too hot for me

[winged spire]

Don’t think you’re supposed to do this bro

[queen glen]

Has anyone purchased something from steam, most specifically hardware?

I’m just wondering what is the final purchases, like is it only sales tax depending on your location and that’s it?

[gilded quest]

How does that work on a plane

[hollow token]

I guess it doesn't

but if you're making money to fly consistently to make that a problem you have the money to buy a steamdeck

[alpine gale]

The Steam checkout / cart will tell you the final purchase price based on your shipping address.

[queen glen]

Alrightyy

There’s only sale tax if you live in the United States right? And local tax

no other taxes so I can just calculate it on a website?

since I wanna get the steam controller

[hardy pilot]

depends

[alpine gale]

Only you can verify this based on the location you're shipping to, and whether or not a product has duty / import taxes. If Steam ships hardware from USA to a US address, they should list all fees during checkout. However, I've never purchased something physical from the Steam store, so don't want to give you wrong information.

[hollow token]

shout out to steam support

My valve index camera broke twice and I asked them about it and they said "eh your warranty expired some years ago but we'll send one out for good customer support. just please send us the broken one back eventually"

[west oar]

somebrands dont put a metal frame outside tempered glass?

[candid glacier]

Eventually???

That's so cool of them

[alpine gale]

Lots of brands don't? I've worked with more glass side panel cases where it was just a sheet of glass with holes in it for the thumbscrews.

[west oar]

fr? i thought it was a standard for cases by now

[hollow token]

Who does metal frames?

[west oar]

corsair, i use it

[hollow token]

My corsairs never did that

[west oar]

it have like 2 big steel frame wrapping around the glass side panel

[hollow token]

Yeah I've had 3 corsairs and one nzxt. They didn't have that

[gusty leaf]

the glass frame is becoming more standard now

anything to make tempered glass more stable I guess

[vapid smelt]

@winged spire https://www.youtube.com/shorts/E5i5crN2TvE?feature=share wanna go look for a free nuclear generator? we could repalce your tesla battery with it

[winged spire]

Based

[vapid smelt]

wait nvm its only 60watts ish of power output

[mystic tundra]

we love the cia

[wispy marsh]

Hello

[versed hedge]

I sure love DOS

very unintuitive to use but all I need is a C compiler and the networking driver I get

[errant narwhal]

Anyone buying steam controller

[zinc yarrow]

HIi

[frank dock]

Thought about it, and I was planning on it til I saw the price, Im not too big of a pc gamer anymore to justify it.

[cosmic lava]

Hi

[strange zephyr]

Hello (no sexual intent)

[cosmic lava]

I tried discord alternatives honestly they very ghost towns and alot of problems

[elfin jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/why-persian-room-cat-guardian-but-why-trendizisst-anyaboz-gif-2156104475561014590

Who the hell starts a conversation like that

[strange zephyr]

Do you want sexual intent?

[strange zephyr]

I do

[elfin jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/yuck-gif-8157463497652432250

[strange zephyr]

I'm joking twin😭🙏

[elfin jetty]

I am not

[strange zephyr]

I was speaking to THE linus

[strange zephyr]

Also are you good at over clocking

Genuine question

[left summit]

On a scale of 1-10 how realistic does this look as part of a trailer?

[mortal perch]

hi

[strange elk]

Theres a lot of problems here too

[mystic tundra]

something may show up in the future

[cosmic lava]

til that i will use discord

[wide ginkgo]

More Context?

[rough socket]

You hid the name but it's written bottom right

And it's your pseudo lol

BUt yeah it's the type of things we could see in a trailer at the end I guess

[hazy panther]

Hey folks
I onece found a Google sheet on reddit that was comparing all kind of software (VPN, browser, pdf...) to help degoogle yourself but I can't find it anymore. Does that ring a bell to someone?

[short rock]

a slight tint? like 12% or something

no, to be honest it looks more like a template for the ending screen for said trailer, as if there's a splash screen that's not been imported yet

[twin raft]

Have we had any news on when the 5800x3d is returning to shelves and available to buy

[sacred crow]

never

[twin raft]

Cheers

[sacred crow]

your welcome

[twin raft]

It's back in production so I mean it is coming back

[sacred crow]

ah itll be a few days tho seriously

[twin raft]

I'm just wondering if there's a confirmed date

[sacred crow]

since they gotta be shipped

[twin raft]

Yeah I'm thinking of getting one if it's under £200

For my friend

[left summit]

I hid it so I wasn’t sharing a URL.

[rough socket]

lol yeah

[left summit]

School project, movie trailer, that’s all the context really

[arctic basalt]

Are people still hating on linus for jet or nah? i wanna be included in trend. Its mr beast hate all over again

[gusty leaf]

There are very legitimate reasons to hate on mr beast

[rough socket]

Speaking of the jet is it used only for work stuff or for himself too ?

[outer basin]

hi!

[crystal flare]

https://giphy.com/gifs/starwars-star-wars-may-the-4th-3oKIPag5cpeU0u0Su4

[hollow token]

depends on who bought it. His bank account or linus media group

at the end of the day it's his to do with what he wants 🤷

[crystal flare]

you would think Linus is one of us, but no. he's a loaded millionaire. he's one of them.

[hardy pilot]

He spoke about a family trip so I guess he uses it for both

[rough socket]

why would you think that lol

[crystal flare]

because i've always said that the ultimate challenge for LMG is doing a full uncut video with no sponsors or shameless self promotion attached. (No floatplane, no ltt store, none of it.)

just do what you love because you love doing it.

[rough socket]

I don't see how it's "shameless" it's a company for-profit

[oak pier]

Youtube Ad Revenue just ain't enough to justify the cost of most videos

So yeah, they need a sponsor to justify making most videos

[shut lichen]

"don't make money"

"don't edit the video"

what

[crystal flare]

"Do ONE Video just for the passion and love of the tech world not the money."
"Don't cut out content (aka the good stuff) and lock it behind a Paid streaming site."
That is what i'm saying.

i'm also not saying that LMG needs to do it all the time, i'd just like to see one video, and only one where they don't have sponsors or promotions for floatplane and other ltt stuff.

[shut lichen]

people need to be paid for their work

[tawdry light]

no

slavery is the way

[crystal flare]

Interns.

[rough socket]

madman

[crystal flare]

they usually aren't paid for their work, most of the time their voluntary (at least in the usa)

[rough socket]

if you want raw video stuff without money don't watch ltt just watch some rando on yt without budget

[shut lichen]

Please experience a country where unpaid internships aren't legal

[crystal flare]

wait there are countries where unpaid internships are illegal?

[shut lichen]

yes, it's illegal to not pay people for productive work

Normal volunteering work of course doesn't fall under this but that's a completely different thing

[crystal flare]

here in the USA most interns are paid in College Credits and Experience and Connections.

but rarely are they ever paid in money for their work.

[shut lichen]

For Canada specifically, https://www.canada.ca/en/services/jobs/workplace/federal-labour-standards/interns.html

[shut lichen]

And America is a famously bad example for this shit

ya'll will squeeze people as much as possible and pay them as little as possible

[tawdry light]

i was just reading my third world country's constition and this shit is unbelievably unrealistic

[shut lichen]

if an intern does any productive work and isn't paid, it's slavery

[cosmic lava]

Yeah i realised somenthing discord alternative are scams
when they are growing they will be sold to corporations or become corporations

[crystal flare]

you can blame Ronald Reagan and his trickle down economics in the 80s for that.

the ripple effect is still being felt even today.

[frail shard]

hii

[frigid frost]

does someone know the aspect ratio ltt uploaded until few months ago when they changed to 16:9?

[tranquil yacht]

Wait what?

[frigid frost]

they had like one of the more cinema like aspect ratio a while ago

that one

[gilded quest]

Not sure what would give anyone this impression

[frigid frost]

i was so scared seeing you typing

i believe its 18:9

[strange elk]

This app has literally been corporate for years

[gilded quest]

Idk anyone who's had an unpaid internship

To me it seems you just sit at home and watch old movies/tv to develop your perception of the world.

[strange elk]

also alternatives may have open source back ends to host your own servers

[gilded quest]

Hey
Did you know
That discord
Isn't a search engine

[hot tartan]

where is the nearest mini golf course to me?

computah make discord a search engine

[tranquil yacht]

Looks pretty close to 2:1. Here's a guide. What you need to do is count the pixels and divide https://www.aspectratiocalculator.com/film-aspect-ratios/

[frigid frost]

thanks!

[strange elk]

Hey clawed, make discord integrate google ai search

[tranquil yacht]

NP 👍

[frigid frost]

i only want I, you now have to awnser questions 2 hours a day to keep discord for 1 day

so hyped for this years best of linus drops

[harsh quartz]

Volcano Valley Adventure Golf in Chisago City, MN, features the world's longest mini golf hole (701 feet, par 13), recognized by Guinness World records

[hot tartan]

are we sure this is the closest?

[harsh quartz]

Oh, sorry, my mistake, a closer option would be Camelot Golfland in Anaheim near Disneyland. southeast of the Los Angeles (LA Valley) area and just southeast of the Riverside area.

[hot tartan]

ah ok dope thanks

yeah 30 hrs of driving is super close, will get right on it

[harsh quartz]

There’s just no other options unfortunately

Idk why but Google keeps deciding my location is random places in the country

[hot tartan]

would you happen to know the par for this course?

[crystal flare]

that's exactly how i developed my perception of the world as i grew up, because i was usually too poor to go outside, or didn't have a car to go places and too socially awkward to talk to people. i watched a lot of tv and movies, until eventually switching to youtube and eventually discord and other social media.

[hot tartan]

I've met one person with an unpaid internship, I think it's more a thing in the law world

[crystal flare]

i also played a crap ton of video games (Well mostly the same ones because again poor so when i got a new game it was all i played)

[harsh quartz]

its somewhat common in tech too, luckily i had a paid internship but its not super common around here

but its because theyre required for college credits as far as ive seen

[harsh quartz]

Par is 99999

[hot tartan]

weird, I haven't seen anyone at my school go unpaid for tech related stuff, but interesting that it happens. Can you say companies if you know, or nah

[harsh quartz]

uhhh, no, cause i work for the company ive seen do it

I did do a paid internship at kirklands though

[hot tartan]

ah ok lol

I guess I know more people in the electrical engineering world, not tech specifically

[harsh quartz]

but colleges around here require internship or work experience hours for part of their IT degree programs, so unpaid internships are treated as like training, and paid internships are treated like normal jobs

[hot tartan]

ah ok IT

yeah I don't know too much about the internship landscape for IT

[harsh quartz]

yeah i just kinda assumed we were talking IT cause LTT and all that

[hot tartan]

that's on me, when you said tech I thought you meant like more hardware related, but I can see IT being unpaid

I have a student IT job rn, luckily I get paid for that

[tranquil yacht]

LOL that's fair

[hot tartan]

I start a hardware internship in two weeks though so that'll be much better

[crystal flare]

it's kinda effed up that it colleges REQUIRE an unpaid internship to be enrolled.

[tranquil yacht]

Lucky you

[hot tartan]

it's only some colleges

[harsh quartz]

it doesnt require an unpaid internship, it just requires an internship, you can find whatever one you like, so long as its related, and if you do paid or unpaid is on you

[hot tartan]

mine does not do that

you can go all 4 years spending your summers doing nothing and get your degree

[tranquil yacht]

Had to pull an all nighter and sacrifice my laptop just to get a person's computer back within 12 hours and still unpaid. 💀

A long story short: Their HDD exploded and they came in the evening requesting the machine be restored by tomorrow for a Zoom meeting. OS system, programmes, files, everything.

[hot tartan]

damn

[tranquil yacht]

At least I didn't have to do any date recovery from the drive. The drive is dead and the person already have a cloud backup

[frozen ruin]

hallo

[tranquil yacht]

Bonjour, hon hon hon

[frozen ruin]

ni hao ma

[tranquil yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/tsukihime-mario-gallo-bestino-melty-blood-gif-10902045962749150817

[frozen ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/stick-bug-stick-bugged-bug-dancing-bug-dancing-gif-18059923

[tranquil yacht]

[frozen ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-scroll-crying-depression-doomscrolling-gif-4138822033792608878

[tranquil yacht]

🪦

[frozen ruin]

[hollow token]

Enrolled? Or graduate

My compsci degree made internships optional, which thank God

[crystal flare]

idk i've never been to college.

[hollow token]

Oh

[gilded quest]

I think some sectors, like education, require student teaching (which would be similar enough to an internship?) to graduate

I was in engineering, however

[hollow token]

Yeah student education is common for graduating

Internship and the like

[marble crypt]

whats better qd-oled or oled

[hardy pilot]

Yep, school teachers have to do many internships over here to graduate (in qc, and I think they are paid)

[hot tartan]

bro I just answered you in the other chat

[marble crypt]

i wasnt told which is better you just said woled

[hot tartan]

WOLED is what you mean by OLED

the two main technologies out right now are qd-oled and WOLED

and tandem (W)OLED is a derivation of WOLED

[winged spire]

(Tandem oled is the best)

[hot tartan]

I agree

[marble crypt]

so oled is woled

[winged spire]

Wokeled

[hot tartan]

yes

[marble crypt]

then why do some monitors say oled and others say WOLED

[hot tartan]

OLED just refers to the generic structure of the panels

[hot tartan]

it doesn't really matter for monitors to get that specific about the monitors

QD-OLED and WOLED are OLEDs

like how a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't a square

[rustic tundra]

oled is an organic version of a self emissive display type

[winged spire]

Cameras are so expensive 🫠

I wanna rent a nice camera to film the next starship launch but even renting for a few days is a few 100 bucks 💀

[hardy pilot]

phone with a tripod

[winged spire]

Yeah no lol

[dim steppe]

contrast ratio on a qdoled with some backround lighting makes it worse than an ips.

woled is the way to go.

[winged spire]

I’m filming a building with the sun shooting out of the bottom from 5 miles away

Kinda need more than a phone

[dim steppe]

or tandem oled.

[rustic tundra]

quantum dots just get brighter when they get excited with light, while they do make the display itself appear brighter its not ideal in bright conditions

[hot tartan]

unless you have the brightest light ever, it doesn't make it worse than an IPS

[winged spire]

I need to find a rich friend 💔lol

[hardy pilot]

Or a photographer friend (my grandpa is a photographer)

[rustic tundra]

i owned woled, was good in bright conditions but i prefer ips anyway

[hot tartan]

but the light issue is a problem with QD-OLED, but newer panels and coatings have improved

[earnest ridge]

HOly crap

[rustic tundra]

high quality 4k ips >>> average oled

[hot tartan]

loco

[dim steppe]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/342887041496907786/1499868099996946614/thanks-for-rtings-for-showing-us-the-true-contrast-rate-of-v0-gdb3w0xgdoqe1.png?ex=69f9a845&is=69f856c5&hm=ab01d39e0a747673a788d5a4a3e0e24b85083b2772498e5547fb6ee4e7d8e086&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=590&height=795

embed fail.

100 lux makes it 736:1 contrast, thats like a desk lamp.

thats extremely moderatly dim.

[hot tartan]

what monitor is this

nvm im stupid it's in the image

[dim steppe]

ye

[dim steppe]

I'm not sure if this occurs on the asus blackshield monitors

rtings hidden behind paywall now 🥀

[hot tartan]

yeah idk, I never had any huge issues with it in my dorm, but I'll trust rtings

I had some glossy QD-OLED

it was nice, but 27" was too small for me

I'm waiting for RGB stripe tandem to come to TVs

[frigid goblet]

High quality oled >>>> average lcd

[sacred crow]

aca p50 vs sentry 95 type answer

[hot tartan]

hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

[rustic tundra]

rarely can find a high quality oled with studio accuracy

[hot tartan]

https://www.asus.com/us/displays-desktops/monitors/proart/proart-display-oled-pa32dc/

pretty easy

[hearty spear]

lolwut

This video wasn't out long ago, and I suspect the tech making the colors this good are not too far from monitors:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnbxSCySgfQ

[rustic tundra]

thats miniled though

[oak pier]

Studio accurate monitors are generally miniLED

[slender lark]

Isnt the apple monitor the miniled

[oak pier]

The new Apple Studio Display XDR is indeed Mini-LED

[winged spire]

Mainly because oled can’t reach the same brightnesses if I had to guess

What’s the peak brightness on that display

5000nits?

[oak pier]

2000 nits peak (in HDR)

[winged spire]

Oh

[oak pier]

1000 nit full screen brightness i believe

[hot tartan]

5000 nits is only on mini-led TVs atm

there's some Hisense models that can do it

[slender lark]

Isnt apple tv also a mini led

[hot tartan]

there is no Apple TV

[oak pier]

Apple doesn't sell a TV

the "Apple TV" is a TV control box

[hot tartan]

there's the AppleTV+ streaming service, the AppleTV media box, and the Studio Display which is a monitor

[slender lark]

Oh

[oak pier]

that you then connect to a TV display

[slender lark]

I heard apple tv exists
So i thought its screen with the apple tv os instalped

[oak pier]

Apple TV

There's also the Apple TV App, and the Apple TV Streaming service

[slender lark]

Remote bigger than tv

[sullen ore]

Chat. Who is on KDE and owns an HDR capable monitor?

[hot tartan]

it's a really nice media box ngl

[sullen ore]

Is there a way to make the desktop not washed out in day to day use? HDR Youtube videos look amazeballs, but the other 90% of the time the screen is kinda meh

[oak pier]

#1027757333117415424

[sullen ore]

aight

[slender lark]

A box with apple logo

[hot tartan]

it beats any built in TV os, and other streaming sticks like a firestick or smth

[slender lark]

My parents just use a ps4 to watch stuff

[oak pier]

The Apple TV is genuinely the best TV box and OS out there

I've used a Roku, Firestick, Samsung's built in TV OS, and the Apple TV is so much more responsive and streamlined

I understand why a lot of people won't buy it, it is an expensive TV box product, but it's 100% worth it in my opinion

[hollow token]

never used google's TV OS?

[oak pier]

I have not

[gilded quest]

Okay did we break steam checkout

[harsh quartz]

Tvs have gotten so confusing for me over the last few years. MicroLED vs MiniLED, and Qled vs Oled

[hot tartan]

qled is bottom tier

[hot tartan]

I just wish it had proper audio passthrough, but C'est La Vie

[dusky jacinth]

I hardly notice a difference between both when viewing each one in person.

[gilded quest]

30th attempt worked

[hot tartan]

qled is just standard TV marketing nowadays

[oak pier]

Mini LED is a backlight technology that chunks it up into separate dimming zones that uses an IPS panel on top, OLED is more of an umbrella term for self emissive pixels, QD-OLED uses a backlight pixel that emits a purple light that then uses quantum dots to change it into the colors of the subpixels, WOLED uses a WRGB subpixel layout with a backlight per pixel, and microLED you have each part of the subpixel producing it's own light

[hot tartan]

watching SDR content sure, it's a lot closer between panels, but getting into HDR really shows differences

[harsh quartz]

also is qled the same as qdoled?

[hot tartan]

no

[oak pier]

Mini LED = better IPS (lots of dimming zones)
OLED = umbrella term for a pixel that produces it's own light
QD-OLED = changes the wavelength of light from the pixel's monocolor light
WOLED = uses a WRGB pixel layout, and simply blocks or lets through light, no color change
MicroLED = each subpixel produces it's own light, no backlight at all

[hot tartan]

qled is typically an LCD TV that uses quantum dots to enhance color volume

[dusky jacinth]

And only red and green ones specifically.

[dim steppe]

qled is va

[dusky jacinth]

Blue is just regular LEDs to excite them into emitting light.

[short rock]

i wonder what the delta in power consumption be between all of these

[oak pier]

Going to vary from model to model even within the same technology

[short rock]

ignoring other variables, just between mfd processes i wonder how different itd be

[oak pier]

You can't really say "ignoring other variables", it's pretty inherent to it

Within each technology, there's so many exact ways to go about it

[rustic tundra]

oled = organic pixels that produce light by themselves

[hollow token]

organic is certainly a word

[rustic tundra]

qdoled = oled but with an extra layer of quantum dots

woled = oled but with an extra white subpixel

[hot tartan]

nah not exactly

[rustic tundra]

microled = same principle as oled but without the organic part

[hot tartan]

WOLED refers to the bottom white OLED layer

the white subpixel just to help brightness, and will be going away with RGB stripe (W)OLED

[oak pier]

Got it, i just misunderstood what exactly the W in WOLED was for, but was right for how it is right now

[rustic tundra]

woled really looks like an lcd in structure lmfao

[oak pier]

It's different because each individual Pixel has control over it's brightness

[rustic tundra]

just without the lcd part

[oak pier]

instead of an always on backlight

there's still a "backlight", it's just that each pixel has it's own backlight

[rustic tundra]

lets not forget the emerging tech called qdel

qdoled without the o part

[oak pier]

Yeah she's weird

[rustic tundra]

speaking of a blue backlight

its more reliable than a white backlight

because white leds are just blue leds with a yellow phosphor that wears over time

making old lcd tvs appear extremely blue after age

[oak pier]

most white LEDs are just blue LEDs with a yellow phosphor

[rustic tundra]

havent seen a monitor turn blue from age though

its only on cheap tvs

[oak pier]

That's also why US street lights were turning blue-purple

They cheaped out on a large batch of White LEDs, and they started to have the yellow phosphor fail

[rustic tundra]

thats just one bad thing about white leds

[winged spire]

Yep, blue InGaN chip with a YAG phosphor coating

(Generally)

All sorts of shit you can replace with various effects

[rustic tundra]

when it comes to microled i really wish the manufacturing process gets strict as hell because leds can die randomly

[maiden path]

hey ho. can someone buy the steam controller? i just get an error?

[oak pier]

Someone earlier mentioned the checkout being fucked

[maiden path]

.... i just wanna give gabe my money

[winged spire]

Flight 12 might be a week away 👀

https://x.com/amazon/status/2051241496737628587?s=46

Amazon (@amazon)

TODAY: Amazon is opening its entire logistics network—freight, distribution, fulfillment, and parcel shipping capabilities—to every business, of all types and sizes. 📦

Amazon has built one of the most reliable and efficient supply chains on Earth. Now, Amazon Supply Chain

X · May 4, 2026, 10:04 AM

What

Amazon is going to take over global shipping now? 👀

[harsh quartz]

…doesn’t Amazon use other shipping companies for last mile anyways?

[oak pier]

They can at times

A lot of more rural shipping is handled by USPS for the final mile

Anytime it doesn't get enough packages to fill a truck

[twin raft]

Wicked cushions uses amazon delivery

[tawdry light]

oh yeah and i still need to pay atleast 40$ for delivery from usa to egypt

although sometimes its worth it since i would be saving over 100$

[winged spire]

Sometimes

But literally every other part of the process is absolutely mastered by Amazon

Last mile has also been coming inhouse more and more

[winged spire]

Polymaker too

MASSIVE filament manufacturer

[twin raft]

I guess it's cheaper or better or something

[winged spire]

They basically drop shop their own products from Amazon

[winged spire]

Which is fucking insane how people want to get rid of USPS

It’s the only service that delivers to every single residence in the county

[oak pier]

Many people flat out could not get their mail anymore if the USPS didn't exist anymore

[winged spire]

Millions of people

It’s fucking insane

And obviously they handle all the mail fraud and shit otherwise

The postal service swat team is scary as fuck

[harsh quartz]

USPS has its issues, but its honestly an incredible service

[strange elk]

Wonder how long steam controllers been out of stock lol

[pliant karma]

lol you got to it late too?

[strange elk]

I finally checked the site

[pliant karma]

I overslept

[winged spire]

Hmm

[strange elk]

I didnt plan on buying it out the gate tbh

[pliant karma]

And now have second thoughts

[winged spire]

270$ for a GoPro hero 12?

[sage quiver]

GoPro still exists?

[strange elk]

unfortunately

[winged spire]

The new GoPro things are super sick

Micro 4/3rds mount

[sage quiver]

ooh

[pliant karma]

Hell yea the mission ils and other mission ones are pretty interesting

Tempting if I’m gonna be honest

[gilded quest]

Yes and they just launched a (technically) interchangeable lens camera

[winged spire]

50mp 1” sensor, 1080p960, 8k30 4k240

Open gate and a non-16:9 sensor

[pliant karma]

innovation finally

[sage quiver]

I wanna see a 15 year sales chart

[gilded quest]

No contacts for lens control tho

So like set the lens to infinity I guess?

[winged spire]

I imagine all action camera sales are down from 15 years ago now that phones are atleast as good in quality, good enough for most people I suppose

[hot tartan]

this is interesting

[hot tartan]

wow

[winged spire]

You use to buy a GoPro as a cheap and easy vlog camera or whatever, now you only do it if you need a durable camera

[gilded quest]

It's weird

[winged spire]

I’m excited about 1080p960

[hot tartan]

I have like a GoPro series 4 or 3, this are huge changes

[winged spire]

Not many cameras in that price can do 960fps slowmo

[pliant karma]

Still on the hero 11. Later upgrade when it’s time.

[sage quiver]

Less brutal than expected

[hot tartan]

I'd want to see the biggest lense you can fit on there

[pliant karma]

Gotta see if the contacto accessory I got got mines carries over unless go pro changed the design which I’m pretty certain

[gilded quest]

Hm, what happened in 2020 that would impact people buying cameras to take outside?

[mystic tundra]

Btw make sure the sensor is 1" and not 1" type sensor

[gilded quest]

I mean technically you can adapter your way into pretty much anything...

[mystic tundra]

or 1" tube sensor

[gilded quest]

Pretty sure it's 1" type

[hot tartan]

I suppose, it's just a really interesting move from them

[gilded quest]

Oh? GoPro uses the words 1" sensor

2 possible situations
(1) It's actually 1" diagonal
(2) They wrote the specs language incorrectly

Petapixel uses the language "type 1 sensor"

[mystic tundra]

Looks like type 1 from what i can find

so yeah... a professional photographer would say it's a lot smaller sensor

for most it's good enough

[hot tartan]

you're telling me I'm not a professional photographer with my GoPro Hero 13?

[gilded quest]

I need a medium format action cam

[hot tartan]

iPhone 17 Pro Max

[mystic tundra]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

1.5% chance

Jokes aside a professional would take good use of even a garbage sensor if there are no other options

[winged spire]

Yall are camera nerds I guess huh?

What are y’all’s thoughts on the Sony a6700

I need a better camera to film rocket launches with, so I need REALLY good autofocus, good dynamic range so the exhaust doesn’t blow out the image

[hot tartan]

I am not a camera nerd sorry

[mystic tundra]

i’m a thermal camera nerd

not so much a regular camera nerd

[north escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-the-next-generation-commander-data-singing-life-forms-song-commander-data-star-trek-the-life-forms-song-the-next-generation-gif-3936029120771971212

Need cobras for cams

[mystic tundra]

hmmmm idk

i’m not nerdy enough to give any camera recommendation

‘cause there are way too many models

and way too many features of said cameras

[pliant karma]

It's a decent gateway into sony and uses pretty much all their e mount lens.

[long briar]

It's solid but not perfect

[pliant karma]

hehe funny it shares the same sensor as the FX30

[winged spire]

Is Sony better than Nikon?

[long briar]

Nikon what

gotta judge based on camera

Tho personally i'd maybe even say look at a used Canon R6

[pliant karma]

R6 Mark II I'm eyeing

[winged spire]

I’ve also been recommended the Nikon D7500

[long briar]

Actually wait nvm don't get the R6 I forgot that generation had a stupid record limit in place still

[winged spire]

Specifically using a Nikon 200-500mm f/5.6E, I’ve seen MANY of those at launches

[long briar]

uhhhh completely different price range and camera

oh that's a great lens

but the body is questionable

[harsh quartz]

i think slow motion cameras are cool but i dont understand the science behind them at all, only that they can have like a 1in x 1in frame running for 4 seconds and get 70GB or some shit

[pliant karma]

Also overheating and all but I think that was an inherit thing on the 1st gen, 2nd kinda improved it.

Still not perfect but as a hybrid option checks all boxes.

[winged spire]

Seems like its only ~100$ more

[long briar]

the D7500 and lens is about the same price as the A6700?

D7500 can't really record 4k.

its autofocus in video is also pretty mediocre

[winged spire]

Oh fuck me 💀yeah the 6700 is too expensive for me it seems

I thought it was closer to like 800 used

[hot tartan]

oh don't get me wrong I think camera's are interesting and I like them, just haven't dedicated time to them. As for slow-mo, it's just they take a bunch of frames per second

[long briar]

its photo autofocus is not bad since it uses the D4s af system

[harsh quartz]

at the extreme end i think it gets more complicated than that AFAIK

[long briar]

but if you're looking at video I'd avoid Nikon here

[pliant karma]

with or without lens?

[winged spire]

Without

[long briar]

A6700 without lens is still like 1.2k

[winged spire]

I can’t do more than like .. ~1300 all in for a telephoto lense and body

[pliant karma]

damn those things are holding their price

[long briar]

how telephoto are u hoping to get

[winged spire]

Very

[hot tartan]

maybe, but it's also just a butt load of frames captured lol

[winged spire]

Several miles

[hot tartan]

https://petapixel.com/2021/07/20/the-entry-level-phantom-tmx-5010-can-shoot-1-16-million-fps/

[long briar]

daytime only?

and video or photo primarily?

[winged spire]

Preferably night aswell but I guess not strictly needed, video primarily

[long briar]

Oh boy....

[winged spire]

I have a nikon p900 that can do some OK photos

ABSOLUTELY nothing at night with it 💀

[long briar]

how often do u use the closest zoom on the p900?

iirc it's like a 1" sensor that's yeah kinda sucky at night

[harsh quartz]

like this has always piqued my interest but just cause its cool https://youtu.be/BTkZ36g4GOs?si=uuWyaFdCoFJCiqfx