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[spiral zodiac]

If they could legally release a blu-ray edition of reboot i would so buy it

[digital hawk]

Like the TV show reboot

https://tenor.com/view/reboot-reboot-cartoon-bob-guardian-to-mend-and-defend-shock-surprise-realize-gif-23375669

[long briar]

Figured this was pretty interesting.

[digital hawk]

I love how it shows women literally staring at the rock face of a tunnel

There's literally nothing to look at but straight ahead in either scenario shown

[karmic kiln]

dude i been watching ltt for so many years idk why i never thought to join the dc

[wispy marsh]

MB neo anyone?

[wispy marsh]

What about trans people?

[timber wave]

the macbook neo is getting a surprising amount of praise, especially considering at A$900 its not even a good price to performance pickup

[calm swan]

well aus market sucks

[timber wave]

true

[calm swan]

at US$499 with edu discount it’s better than basically every new windows laptop in its price bracket

[timber wave]

wouldnt that mean the us is awful ? like the neo is not better than any M series which you could still purchase at the same price brand new, and refurbished you could probably get a m2?

[glad lichen]

u guys remember the 11" macbook air. 4gb ram and 128gb drive, what a time. https://x.com/ClassicII_MrMac/status/2029213898449014810?s=20

Mr. Macintosh (@ClassicII_MrMac)

The MacBook Neo is the lowest cost laptop Apple has ever released!

The previous lowest‑cost Apple laptop was the 11‑inch MacBook Air, which Apple reduced to $899 in 2014.

X · Mar 4, 2026, 3:14 PM

now if apple could fix the issues with MacOS Tahoe it would be nice

the Liquid Glass issues are annoying

[digital hawk]

I'm going to act like you meant the United States and Neo Tokyo

[glad lichen]

https://x.com/theapplehub/status/2029338954735206765?s=20
neo very much the student laptop

Apple Hub (@theapplehub)

M1 MacBook Air vs MacBook Neo

X · Mar 4, 2026, 11:31 PM

[digital hawk]

I just jumped in and saw your comment after taking a blood pressure break from Resident Evil requiem

I have a feeling like the neo is going to be the first of many new product releases that do their best to look better in the face of the crisis going on with hardware

And so far that checks

[full fossil]

[digital hawk]

Bracing for a really bad 2026 while also not having the means to put certain better components in this year's lineup of products

[glad lichen]

at least apple releasing it, most of the pc companies that showed up their laptops at CES you still can't order, pre-order or it's like only sent out to a handful people/infulencers/reviewers etc.

[digital hawk]

Some companies are literally just getting out of the hardware game

[glad lichen]

pc manufacturers be waiting week, another week, another week, just to check prices

[digital hawk]

As you all are well aware

[timber wave]

except thats the price for it in 2020, its far from 1k in todays market

[digital hawk]

You go buy your pastel colored MacBook and be happy. No one's going to hate you except your wallet but that's on you

I seriously can't even wrap my head around chasing PC hardware releases let alone Apple hardware releases. Jesus Christ

[timber wave]

pastel colored ipad*

[digital hawk]

With an unattachable keyboard, don't forget

Wait, does it even have a touch screen? Surely it does. I would love if it didn't though

[timber wave]

knowing apple you probably gotta buy a touchscreen version

[digital hawk]

AAAnd and it doesnt

[glad lichen]

yeah i wanna replace my pc laptop and fine with paying premium for it. but I assume many doesn't want to pay at all that premium in these times and skip it.

[digital hawk]

This is a corporation's spin on not being able to do anything better as if they would if they didn't have the crisis going on right now

[timber wave]

paying premium to buy a macbook neo 🥀

[digital hawk]

And they're not even doing the this is the MacBook for the common man. It's still priced like previous versions. Jesus dude pick a Lane

You can't downgrade from previous releases while acting like it's an upgrade just because you strayed away from brushed aluminum for fuck's sake

[timber wave]

but its new, so it has to be good

[digital hawk]

As my Grandpa said after Steve Jobs died. Apple was Tim cooked

[digital hawk]

Just like the last five iPhones

What pisses me off is they literally got caught soft locking people out of performance via iOS updates in order to force them to buy a new one and nothing happened

Same reason why they offer free free personalized engravings

[alpine gale]

Apple likely will NEVER make a touchscreen laptop so long as their mobile devices continue selling well. They certainly could, but they don't want to cannibalize sales. After all, if they can coerce people into buying 3x devices...

[digital hawk]

It's all a means to fight against resale value

I would willingly buy a used iPad that has Carlos etched in the back though

Or a myriad of other names for that matter

[glad lichen]

I’m still on the 14 pro . Peak iPhone design

Except for the lightning port

[digital hawk]

You mean the XR

Another fun fact about Apple. Guess why they went from lightning to thunderbolt

[calm swan]

xr

[digital hawk]

No it was not because they are finally doing what other brands did 5 years ago as usual

[calm swan]

not peak

[digital hawk]

It was because the European Union forced them to standardize their charging port

[glad lichen]

It’s ironic since the Mac and iPad got usb-c very early

[timber wave]

this is the the thing that genuinely pisses me off, an ipad isnt even its own device. you will never meet a student that owns an ipad that doesnt have a macbook. its not your 3rd device its you 2.5

[digital hawk]

So of course they marketed it as them inventing the revolutionary concept of USBC

[calm swan]

they don’t have thunderbolt. u mean usb-c

[digital hawk]

They're so cooked dude. I mean how much longer can this go on

[digital hawk]

Yeah I clarified that a few milliseconds before you posted that

I was honestly building up to that so that's not on you

[calm swan]

they did codevelop tb with intel iirc

[digital hawk]

I work for an extremely extremely large company and we have 48,000 individual workstations or computers in any way shape or form, desktop laptop whatever

And there are only 1,800 macbooks And I swear to God if it wasn't for the vanity of corporate executives that would be even lower

[glad lichen]

Yeah not a startup I see

[digital hawk]

Some things speak for themselves

[timber wave]

the people who think the neo is a good product probably bought the 16e

[digital hawk]

Apple devices in an Enterprise environment is a fucking nightmare

[digital hawk]

Well yeah of course because it's newer than the previous iteration

That's all that's ever mattered for what? 15 years now?

I remember when they revealed that copy and paste was going to be a new feature for iOS and it was like headlines across the entire world and Android had it for like 7 years

[glad lichen]

Too big companies and both Windows and Mac laptops isn’t fun to use. So much strangle hold

[timber wave]

but when you give you $1500 iphone 16 you get $200 off the 17

[digital hawk]

I had an iPhone as my work phone while being an Android user since KitKat

Their strategy is sucking you into the ecosystem

[calm swan]

it’s a good product for students at the $499 edu price

any more and you should just get a refurbed macbook air

[digital hawk]

It's like an extreme version of the console versus PC gaming argument

One is for people who type with two fingers.

[alpine gale]

We have the same thing - work iPhones. I don't feel sucked into the ecosystem though - I'm frustrated by it.

[digital hawk]

Yeah I'm not talking about the people who can't do anything but use the iPhone given to them for work

I'm just talking about I'm not one of those Apple haters that's never used Apple

[timber wave]

i heard the US typically doesnt use whatsapp

[calm swan]

i mean i do. lots of people here don’t

[timber wave]

is that why the ecosystem would drives you in ?

[calm swan]

rcs is a good enough alternative

[digital hawk]

I mean it's available but it's not like it is another countries

[alpine gale]

Ah yeah gotcha. Same here. I actually used to daily drive an iPad 4, then an iPad Mini 5, at least until I found that Android tablets had matured enough to justify selling the iPad Mini and get a Lenovo Tab Plus years later.

[digital hawk]

Matured enough compared to what?

[glad lichen]

Many of us just has to suffer using Teams

[digital hawk]

Android has been ahead of the game in almost every single way except for a superficial shit

[calm swan]

well no i just find every android phone sold in the us to be boring

[digital hawk]

Like retina displays or I'm at a loss for what else

[calm swan]

if i want an android phone i’ll probably just import some chinese phone

[digital hawk]

Test on whether or not I just got timed out!

[timber wave]

are xiaomis still banned

[digital hawk]

Ok whew

Yeah and the other

[calm swan]

you can’t buy any chinese phone except oneplus

[digital hawk]

Huawei

[calm swan]

samsung, oneplus, google, motorola is what you’ll see here

[digital hawk]

And fun fact. Guess why they are banned in the US

The same reason why the whole tick tock manufactured controversy is a thing

[timber wave]

i aint falling for the motorola bait

[digital hawk]

And yeah I'm not going to correct the spelling of that

[calm swan]

oh and redmagic but i’m not intersted in a gamer phone

[digital hawk]

It's because the US government doesn't like not having unilateral control over the hardware or software predominantly used in its country

[glad lichen]

Their cars is pretty cool

[timber wave]

they got watercooled phones now or some bs

[digital hawk]

They can strong arm back doors into anything produced in the United States

And this isn't some Crock-Pot conspiracy theory. This is all proven in leaks and shit

[calm swan]

at the cost of having horrid software support and cams

[digital hawk]

Same reason why they ban Chinese EVS in America

[timber wave]

sure, but you could play pubg mobile

[calm swan]

i don’t play games on my phone.

[digital hawk]

It's either corporate interest or the interest of the government's ability to bully a company into giving them back doors

[calm swan]

i hardly play games at all

[glad lichen]

Huawei ever since banned of Google play store and things. Their own OS HarmonyOS is so smooth and runs same on your car as your phone and laptop. I wished Microsoft would take notes

[calm swan]

maybe cs2 sometimes

[strange elk]

..lol

rcs isnt even universal

[digital hawk]

The biggest slap in the face that most Americans are going to face is the realization that China is leaps and bounds, more advanced in a lot of areas

[calm swan]

i mean we already know

[digital hawk]

Anything from public infrastructure to to manufacturing obviously

[strange elk]

Well yea because american manufacturing got offloaded to china for cheap.Not really a secret

[digital hawk]

A lot of people don't know. For example, that China has the first space station other than the ISS

[glad lichen]

I was in China twice end of last year. And man their Cars feel like a next level, then you check the price they pay and it’s like… half the price?!

[digital hawk]

The entire reason why America is going to the Moon again is because of China

And we're trying to catch up

[digital hawk]

Yeah I dated a girl who speaks fluent Chinese and also went there through college a couple times

[strange elk]

Weird way to catch up when Zuckerberg drops 77B into the "metaverse"

[digital hawk]

She said it's eerily quiet when you're downtown even in the middle of rush hour because the majority of cars are EVs and they just don't make sound

[dusky jacinth]

Eeehhh I think a decent number of us are already aware of this.

[glad lichen]

In China several I talked to their new car be it AVATR or BYD or other brand, more luxurious and nicer than a Tesla or Polestar, is like 26k USD.

[digital hawk]

China is thriving 20 in the 2020s in the same way we thrived in the '50s

[calm swan]

most people are already aware of it

[digital hawk]

We just got lazy and started to pass that laziness on to the next generation over and over again and now we have half the country following somebody like orange man

[strange elk]

yea not really how that works either

[digital hawk]

We are Timothy cooked

[dusky jacinth]

Pret-ty much my point. Lol.

[digital hawk]

It's not how it should work but it's definitely how it's played out

[strange elk]

Its not laziness its cost consolidation

[glad lichen]

Tho. Then you go to HongKong feel like they have stopped in time compared to China. Their taxis and busses etc. same old stuff as 20 years ago. If you Uber then you can get a Tesla sometimes but that’s the “nice exception”

[digital hawk]

You spelled complacency wrong

[timber wave]

my next phone ill try a different phone brand, if not apple ill see if the oppo phones only cost an arm and not a leg

[strange elk]

\Placenta

[digital hawk]

I've been using a Google pixel ever since the first one and I seriously love it

You'll definitely hear more stories about people who switched from Apple to pixel and liked it than any other

[strange elk]

I guess Motorola is my next since thats where Graphene is going

[dusky jacinth]

Well, not really all of us did. Really, it was just corporate America didn't want to pay for the credible talent we actually hade, our education system got stifled, and then because China beat everyone globally at cost to quality, there was just no catching them.

[digital hawk]

But if you've been using Apple up until this point, Apple will make sure the transition is near impossible

[strange elk]

I loved iOS but I like freedom a bit more

[timber wave]

pixels are the android iphones tho, need something stand alone

[dusky jacinth]

Even the good product makers for really anything in the states don't make it so easily trying to do anything here because of how everything ended up.

[timber wave]

although i wish my s24+ had g camera

[digital hawk]

Really the fact of the matter is what is perceived compared to what's communicated. Of course you can look on the internet to find the truth but what's being chosen not to be told says a lot

[strange elk]

Flash Lineage, AOSP (if you are feeling masochistic I guess?) or Graphene on it

[dusky jacinth]

At cost, stuff is expensive and sometimes too cheap in quality, and then for anything actually quality, you pay an insane premium compared to anyone else doing similar in literally any other country.

[digital hawk]

As far as I'm concerned, the first space station in decades successfully getting into orbit would be international news, but it wasn't at least for Americans it wasn't

And there's a reason behind that

[strange elk]

Not like you need to buy pixel buds to listen to music

[digital hawk]

The only insane premium as far as any device is Apple products

[timber wave]

all tws earbuds are the same from budget to high tech

[glad lichen]

I remember going back and forward with android a while and the convenience of sync and airdrop was just the things keep me on iPhone. Most android solutions at the time some years ago was to upload a file to a service, then download it to share. Took battery and data, and was much slower because it wasn’t a direct transfer. But I’m told airdrop is maybe fixed now

[digital hawk]

Sony is gooded for earbuds

[dusky jacinth]

Well, ones worth buying anyway.

[digital hawk]

Goated too

[timber wave]

better hope so, theyre like 500 a piece

[strange elk]

Ehh higher end ones have leagues better ANC, but far as sound goes, Space Travels are just fine

[digital hawk]

Yeah and that one is the one that performs better regardless of the brand that makes it

And that is never Apple

[dusky jacinth]

They were goated for most of their audio equipment, even their tvs despite being mostly TCL-produced, and of course their bread and butter still to this day: the Playstation platform.

[timber wave]

im not the biggest fan of anc, i only use 1 earbud at a time, and if i wanna block out sound i put both in

[digital hawk]

I'll take that back. Apple performs better than almost every other company at marketing. Hard stop after that

[strange elk]

I thought Playstation was one of Sonys weaker lineups.. well obviously barring PS2 and 3 era

[glad lichen]

Yes, bought several generations.

[dusky jacinth]

Not at all. It's their only most profitable one now.

[digital hawk]

Me too! I'm currently on my 4th back-to-back generation of their noise canceling earbuds

I don't have the xm6s yet, but I have the xm5s

[glad lichen]

PlayStation/entertainment is where Sony makes all the money

[dusky jacinth]

The only other one they have is their camera division.

[dusky jacinth]

In terms of electronics, yeah.

[digital hawk]

Did you all recently see the headlines about Sony saying they're going to step back from releasing PC games

[glad lichen]

Sony make tech hardware on the side for fun now. Not for big profits.

[timber wave]

and you felt the difference in all 4? surely when theyre all that high quality they all seem the same

[digital hawk]

Despite the insanely successful launch of literally, every single exclusive they released on PC

[strange elk]

Aint gonna get me to get a PS5 THIS late lol

[glad lichen]

I remember the last of us was a bit problematic.

[digital hawk]

I felt the difference compared to others but from one to the other it was really just oh. I need new earbuds and I would do research and the next generation was still the number one rated

[strange elk]

I considered it back when Warframe didnt have adaptive triggers on PC yet

[glad lichen]

Before nixxes

[dusky jacinth]

Yep, and that's just because they're losing money from releasing to another platform compared to what they gain doing anything with their consoles.

[digital hawk]

Yeah well I'm assuming when they say they're stepping back from PC releases they're talking about their affiliation or business with nixxes

Nixxes made it all happen. Sony just allowed it

[dusky jacinth]

Plus, it doesn't make sense to anymore when they don't even have any exclusives and they're not moving hardware stock well enough.

[timber wave]

like i upgraded from Jlabs to galaxy buds 3 but they both do the same this, albeit the galaxy buds are better if it wasnt for the buttons, and anc theyre essentially the same

[strange elk]

Weird assumption.. are all of them Nixxes titles?

[digital hawk]

They're not titles

They were just the company contracted to Port it from PlayStation to PC

[strange elk]

WHatever you want to call them

[dusky jacinth]

If this kept up, they would've then struggled to sell the PS6 properly.

[digital hawk]

And having endured several absolute dog shit console ports to PC nixxes makes it look easy

[dusky jacinth]

There are varying reasons why the PS5 right now is struggling to be sold and that's simply because no incentive is there for anyone to bother.

[digital hawk]

Yeah that's exactly why they made that move is because they wanted to sell more PlayStations

Probably because they get a few more percents on the dollar with PS5 sales and they do with anything else

[glad lichen]

Going back 20 years ago. It used to be pc ports to console. Then 360 happened

[strange elk]

GTA 6 being delayed mustve hit them hard

[dusky jacinth]

And kinda need to if they want to justify keeping their gaming division intact as it once was, especially after they gave up their electronics division to their old partner in TCL.

[digital hawk]

Are you trying to say that developing a game for 360 was not remotely if not exactly identical to developing a game for PC?

[strange elk]

Arent consoles closer to PC than they ever have been atp anyway

[digital hawk]

The reason why the PS3 failed so bad is because of how alien the architecture was for developers

[glad lichen]

During the 360, a lot of studios shifted to console first approach.

[timber wave]

my ps5 is kinda just there, the only game i would play is fifa and thats basically pay to play since in a years time youre paying the games worth in monthly subscriptions to play the game

[dusky jacinth]

If they don't then they get relegated to just another 3rd party dev who won't get as much sales as they'd want to meet their quotas and shareholder expectations.

[digital hawk]

Yeah because it was the first true next gen console era and 360 hit the market and it was easier to develop for it

[dusky jacinth]

Which right now with their economy being worst off, that is not the best scenario for them.

[digital hawk]

I personally love what Xbox as a brand is currently doing for gaming

[timber wave]

what exactly are they doing?

[digital hawk]

They're biting the bullet. And acknowledging where the future is obviously leaving

And it is not going to be paying a bunch of money for a different box that does the same thing that another box in your house already does

[dusky jacinth]

I don't, considering what they're doing is moreso just killing themselves.

[timber wave]

they remove the only thing making people side with xbox and charging triple the price

[digital hawk]

The Xbox anywhere thing game pass for example

[dusky jacinth]

At this rate, that division is being given less a reason to exist.

[strange elk]

Idk what microsoft moving its platform to windows 11 is doing for gaming tbh

[timber wave]

they started increasing the prices drastically

[glad lichen]

Shipping games on PlayStation yes.

[digital hawk]

Ending Exclusivity and pretty much putting hundreds of games in the hands of anybody willing to spend 1/3 of the cost of a single game per month

[dusky jacinth]

And the original founders of the Xbox team fought to be relevant because everyone else at MS didn't see a reason for them to exist at all originally.

[digital hawk]

I've been paying for live game pass PC ultimate for like 6 years maybe and all it takes is downloading and beating one game to cover the cost of 3 months

And they have day one launch titles. On top of that it's not like Gog

[strange elk]

I mean exclusivity isnt ended. Nintendo still exists

[dusky jacinth]

They had to really prove themselves and Gates just used them as another means to get Windows everywhere as much as possible. Now, the justification for them exist is being lost.

[glad lichen]

Reason I bought a Series S was to play Microsoft games without dealing with Windows hassles..

[digital hawk]

Nintendo is I mean do I need to even say anything?

[timber wave]

$40 a month to play silksong or some bs is dumb asf tho

[calm swan]

well they have mario, zelda. pokemon

[dusky jacinth]

They're doing whatever they feel like. That's... Really about it.

[strange elk]

Literally people are flashing SteamOS on their Allys.. and vice versa to steamdecks to be completely fair

[glad lichen]

Nintendo is in their own corner, but lacking all tech innovations

[calm swan]

doesnt matter

[digital hawk]

Not only is that over twice the actual cost but silk song is...sure fine cope

[calm swan]

their consoles and games will still sell well

[dusky jacinth]

Because they're still using the vision they were set with since the Wii and it's benefitted them well since.

Why change the model from there?

[glad lichen]

The fact it’s 2026 and no trigger support is so nuts. Making any games like racing games absolute worst. It’s only made for kart racing. On/off

[digital hawk]

Nintendo is without a doubt making all their money off of parents

[dusky jacinth]

Not like they were even threatened with everyone going all out back in the 7th gen.

[digital hawk]

Or people who just really like Mario?

[strange elk]

How long has nintendo been owned by banks actually

Like it cant have been that long right?

[calm swan]

look at the switch; weakest console of its gen but outsold the ps4 and xbox one

[dusky jacinth]

Nintendo is basically milking the general crowd who wants "toys" in terms of gaming.

[digital hawk]

I fuck with Nintendo just because they put up the best challenge towards hardware and software cracking

As far as I'm concerned, that's their only value

[timber wave]

im not saying silksong is bad, im saying paying twice the price of a new release MONTHLY is braindead, xbox ultimate was great, now it just isnt

[glad lichen]

I mostly spent my time on switch 2 playing older games

[digital hawk]

That's not at all What's true? That's just what you're saying

[glad lichen]

New hot stuff, goes on my ps5

[dusky jacinth]

And then after that, the PS5 could never crack that barrier and the Xbox Series might as well have been a wash.

[digital hawk]

I'm saying you can pay $18 a month for access to hundreds of games and even if there's only one $60 game to play upon the day it is available to anybody. It pays for itself for the next 2 months

[strange elk]

opposed to the 360 that barely has a software jailbreak, XB1 who barely got a hypervisor exploit a couple years back and Apple? (idk what the jailbreaking scene is like these days)

[calm swan]

jb is basically dead on iphone

[digital hawk]

Wait a second. Are you talking about the Xbox 360 does not have a jailbreak

It's the poster child for fails. In that regard, I made a killing in high school not only modding 360s but selling burnt games

[dusky jacinth]

Ironically, this has not really benefitted Microsoft at all.
In fact, they lose to Valve and even lost out to a total newcomer doing similar, which Linus just recently made a video about: Nex's Playground console.

[digital hawk]

I actually had an entire PC build based around doing that

[glad lichen]

Apple: let’s introduce the Cydia features from iOS 5 over next 10 years , slowly

[strange elk]

It does, theres badupdate now but its unreliable as it stands, and the only mods for the 360 otherwise are hardmods

[digital hawk]

Because you needed very specific chipsets and DVD burners to do so

[digital hawk]

Microsoft is trying to edge into what steam has done which is literally create a multi-billion dollar industry piggybacking off of their own product

[dusky jacinth]

The Playground outshines the entirety of the Xbox platform, even if it offers less and has a not-so-much better subscription model.

[mint sandal]

Looking like openai could go bankrupt

[digital hawk]

Microsoft is dropped the ball so many times with so many different opportunities while they were ahead and the tech sector in general

[strange elk]

Yea, and Highguard ended GDC as well

[dusky jacinth]

Aaaanndd in the process, they still can't beat Valve anyway in terms of customer retention.

[digital hawk]

Also Condor was pretty good

[digital hawk]

Dude, did you think I was defending Xbox the console this entire time?

[calm swan]

i’m just going to wait for new exclusives

i believe at the moment the only sw2 exclusives are mk world and donkey kong bananza

new pokemon next year too

[mint sandal]

Can't believe the news im reading lol

[dusky jacinth]

No, I'm just pointing this fact out.

[calm swan]

can’t wait for a new 3d mario

[digital hawk]

You're not pointing any facts out

[calm swan]

really enjoyed odyssey on my switch

[abstract nimbus]

i agree, i love it

[glad lichen]

That Pokemon exclusive just came out like the other day? Pokepia? The RE competitor for GOTY

[digital hawk]

But I enjoy being a PC gamer not owning a console while letting Xbox do their thing for $18 a month to my advantage

[mint sandal]

There is a chance that David Ellison loses paramount in court 🤣

[digital hawk]

And then you know sailing the high seas for everything that is not on game pass

[dusky jacinth]

I am: Microsoft's Xbox division is being run into the ground and it's NOT beating Valve the way they're going. That's all I'm saying about where they're at right now with that.

[digital hawk]

That's kind of their strategy

Why do you think they bought up two plus dozen development studios and do shit like game pass ultimate for PC

[dusky jacinth]

GamePass has not made their situation any better either, even in terms of worth. From how the results turned out with that, it almost sounded like how OUYA failed in a way.

[glad lichen]

I’m excited to see Sony getting back in handheld gaming. And the new GabeCube.

[digital hawk]

They're not trying to sell you the next console. They're trying to sell you the next game or sell you access to the next game!

[strange elk]

Its gonna take something huge for me to ever look down at valve. They arent immune to criticism but overall they are a net positive

[calm swan]

so like 4 games

[digital hawk]

Yeah I would go gay for Gabe's pinky finger if I had the chance to put it up my butt

[dusky jacinth]

Yeah and since then, they're still losing to everyone else.

[calm swan]

i guess that’s okay considering it hasn’t even been a year

[strange elk]

And Im already done with Windows, Microsoft lost me on the Xbox and PC operating system fronts

[digital hawk]

What the fuck is the Xbox operating system front?

[glad lichen]

Windows need a actual reset

[dusky jacinth]

Like it's one thing that Valve won that field and that's valid, but it's another when you lose to complete newbie like Nex selling basically yet another modern EyeToy.

[digital hawk]

Valve invented the field

I remember getting the beta invite for steam when I was playing Counter-Strike 1.5 competitively

[strange elk]

You know, the metro ad ridden unresponsive hellscape that is Xbox Ones main menu

[digital hawk]

When seam launched, the only thing you could play on it was like Half-Life One Day of defeat and Counter-Strike 1.6. that was the allure

[strange elk]

Not "a front" but on "that front"

[dusky jacinth]

For a platform to download games from a storefront on with the system just being a platform for the OS that focuses on such?
Actually, Infinium Labs/Phantom Entertainment did that first... And that was a vaporware company too with a product that "technically existed".

[digital hawk]

I actually bought a physical copy of Half-Life wine from a bookstore of all places because back then there wasn't GameStop

[glad lichen]

Somehow what I don’t understand is that Ps5 online gaming is so more stable than my Xbox series. If I play long session it’s guaranteed to get drop outs on the Xbox. And then I’m told Xbox live is better than PlayStation

[digital hawk]

There was babbages which was somewhat close

And back then everybody was fear-mongering over the shift that valve was trying to do with steam

And the facts actually came true but the evil corporate aspect didn't. And that's why a lot of people love valve to This day is they didn't do that

[strange elk]

Ive never considered xbl better than PlayStation online. They didnt even make playing F2P games online possible without gold till after I left lol

[digital hawk]

There's no such thing as one being better than the other. They're both services you pay for that shouldn't cost money

[dusky jacinth]

You know which one they never topped though?
Nintendo WiFi Online back then. Lol.

[strange elk]

This I agree with though, why ive wanted a PC since before xb1 existed

[digital hawk]

Xbox One was pretty much actually quite literally a PC

[strange elk]

I literally only watched Netflix on my wii if I wasn't playing games

[dusky jacinth]

So was the OG.

[digital hawk]

They literally just had modified USB ports for their controller hookups but everything else inside was just PC parts

Man, the Homebrew Xbox days were insane

[strange elk]

Current gen is basically PC too

[digital hawk]

Wait a second. Are you talking about Xbone or Xbox One?

[glad lichen]

Before Sony hired people to rewrite PSN with ps4 gen, it was true. But not since.

[digital hawk]

One as in first

[dusky jacinth]

The original Xbox.

[digital hawk]

Ok good

[dusky jacinth]

And then of course, it wasn't the first to do that either.

[digital hawk]

The first to do what

[strange elk]

Fair. I literally never had an online sub so I wouldn't know

[dusky jacinth]

Pretty sure it was actually the Atari XEGS and Commodore 64 console to be the first systems that were basically like-for-like pcs hardware-wise (technically. I am aware those were microcomputers, but they existed regardless).

[digital hawk]

Leon Kennedy is going to ruin my gaming chair sheeeeit

[strange elk]

Uh

[dusky jacinth]

Oh yeah, since we were talking 6th before I mentioned 3rd-4th gen, the Dreamcast almost was going to be pretty much a pc too in a sense if Project Katana didn't happen.

Project Blackbelt literally was just a PPC pc with a 3dfx gpu in it pretty much, and that was a spec for the Dreamcast from Sega America. Project Katana, using the hardware the Dreamcast has had to this day, was from Sega Japan's side.

[glad lichen]

Every time someone mention 3dfx. I get a Unreal Castle flyby flashback

(Back when tim Sweeney did work and not shitpost on Twitter on how much he hates Apple and valve)

[digital hawk]

I swear to God if I have to wait for an elevator while four lickers get dropped in on me again

I will be pissed

[long briar]

It would depend, but I'd argue that trans is a psychological, sometimes physical but not biological difference. A man doesn't automatically gain all instincts of a woman just because they become transgender, and vice versa.

[digital hawk]

There is actually a term for what you're referring to

[long briar]

who me?

[digital hawk]

Dysmorphia yoink

Brb gaming

Also, while you're at it, quit feeding into public discourse rage bait

[long briar]

ragebait? I'm feeling pretty great

I personally don't support trans in the sense that they deserve special recognition - if you're trans I'll treat you like a human, like anyone else.

makes no difference to me

[strange elk]

[digital hawk]

I'm talking about the first time you ever introduced to the need to explain yourself on whether or not you support it or don't

[long briar]

I'm confused what's the ragebait about

or the ragebait that you mention?

[digital hawk]

All of that explaining yourself or arguing with people about it was time wasted from arguing about the actual issues

The ones that would you know tax the rich or cost the government money to provide

[long briar]

what do you consider actual issues?

[digital hawk]

Literally anything that people think is a problem that isn't spoon-fed to them as a problem

[long briar]

Because I realize the definition of "the rich" has become so vague that it doesn't bother me anymore

[digital hawk]

Wage gaps, healthcare, infrastructure literally anything else

The Epstein files unsanctioned wars

The list goes on

[strange elk]

Life? The systematic capitalist society at large?

[long briar]

I've been called broke by the same people that say I live too comfortably and should be taxed more

the result? I don't care what you do

[digital hawk]

I've lived long enough to experience both sides of the coin

And all I can say is all of that shit still stands

That's life. Suck it up and deal with it is such an American viewpoint to have

And they paid good money and spent decades making sure you thought that

If you disagree just literally talk to anybody anywhere else

[strange elk]

As if recycling is the issue

[fierce moth]

got myself a new gpu today

[digital hawk]

Hells yeah, Radeon army represent

[long briar]

who's they, who's you?

[fierce moth]

went from a 7800xt to a 9070xt

[digital hawk]

They is the powers it be and me is an American

Comfortable life as an American is by being under a rock or generational wealth. Everything else is varying levels of struggle or coping because something something American dream

[strange elk]

I mean that existed

Just not for this genration

[long briar]

I'm Canadian lmao

[edgy moss]

Dialing up a diabolical $250 poverty Homelab

[strange elk]

Or the one before

[digital hawk]

Then I understand why you don't know what I'm talking about

[edgy moss]

Do you notice much of an increase in performance?

[digital hawk]

I wish the worst thing at any given point in time about hour later was the Goofy socks he wore

I miss Trudeau to be honest

We need more chads with goofy socks on the global stage

[fierce moth]

in terms of raytracing defo

[digital hawk]

Yeah welcome to the club bro. And you didn't spend a few months wages to do so

I have a 7900 XTX

[fierce moth]

i spent about 900 aud on the card

[edgy moss]

I was going to choose between a 7800xt or a 4070 and I chose the 4070 due to ray tracing and DLSS

[fierce moth]

also spent 800 aud on a qd oled monitor to pair with it

[digital hawk]

That's about what I spent almost a year ago

[long briar]

Sorta, it's a similar situation

[fierce moth]

qd oled is a massive improvement over lcd ips tho

i can actually do HDR stuff now

[long briar]

nah

well, it's best of both worlds

nice blacks and decent colour gamut

[edgy moss]

Getting a good monitor would be a nice upgrade but unfortunately I put all my money into homelabbing now

[fierce moth]

unifi my beloved

[digital hawk]

I'm out of here like a Gucci suit with a wet toot

I'll holler at your boy suck something that reciprocates

[strange elk]

I wish

😔

[glad lichen]

I saw a legend today going to work. This dude carried a sun Microsystems laptop bag. More respect than any gucci bag

[digital hawk]

I'd rock that if I could steal it from work as well

[pseudo sand]

maybe i meant to send this in tech chat oops

[vapid smelt]

for how much over msrp (600)

[fierce moth]

900 aud

so 635 freedom bucks

[vapid smelt]

nice

[fierce moth]

was actually on sale lol

cause the regular price is abt 1100 aud

[tranquil heron]

While I’m working IT in hospital they gave me this workstation to clean

It’s a pretty interesting piece of hardware

The gpu is equivalent to a 1050ti so it can game and SLI too!

[oak pier]

"1050ti" and "game" in the same sentence in 2026 is wild

[timber wave]

linus joined the group of techtubers praising the neo 🥀

[oak pier]

it's a good product, why wouldn't they praise it?

[timber wave]

when the main selling point is it being cheap, its a slap in the face to genuinely good devices with the same price point or even cheaper, its not a product that "cannot be recommended enough", sure it can do what its intended to do, but so do the hundreds of other laptops while completely outperforming the neo. we dont have the numbers yet, but the specs speak for themselves. its an apple product with claims of being the most optimal device for student despite it being significantly underspeced for its price point.

[oak pier]

For a 600usd pricepoint, 16gb of ram, and an apple silicon chip it should be great

You will struggle to find a laptop with comparable specs (not just CPU+Ram) for the same price or less

Also you can get it for 500usd with the education discount, which is the price most people will actually pay

The appeal is the apple ecosystem, with their platform stability and lack of "fuss" for setup, at an incredibly appealing pricepoint

[timber wave]

except its not, its half the ram you mentioned, with it being simply an ipad with an undetachable keyboard and no touch screen

[oak pier]

Oh shit it is 8gb ram, okay i like it a fair bit less

[oak pier]

If you get an Ipad with associated keyboard, you'll be paying a pretty similar price

A lot of the appeal with Macs is their stability, and ease of use for the tech illiterate

It's a chromebook alternative, not a 1000usd laptop alternative

Also it's hard to really say anything about it's performance when we have zero metrics for it

since it's not M series silicon, we don't really have any sort of reference point

[timber wave]

the only appeal of that price point is the inclusion of an apple logo, its is nowhere near as good as an ideapad 5 slim for example which is better performing, has longer battery life, and found often cheaper. It being the same price as an ipad with full accessories highlights how much of a rip off it is, it does signify its "cheap" brand, an ipad isn't cheap, and an ipad doesnt perform. why get the neo when you could easily get a m1 chip laptop brand new that merks it completely for the same price, or an m2 refurbished for significantly cheaper

[oak pier]

500usd for a neo or 900usd for an m1

(both education discounts)

[timber wave]

900 aud for both, 700 for a refurbished m1, 950 for a reburbished m2, and 990 for a 24gb ram/512gb storage ideapad slim 5

[oak pier]

It's super reliant on what the performance characteristics are going to be, and we've yet to see

I am kind of sad to see usb 2.0 on it

The fact they went from including dual TB4/5 on their laptops to 1 USB3.0 and 1 USB2.0 is saddening

[mortal lion]

This isn't geared to the technologically inclined type people. I bought this for my wife for ease of use and price. I have had her on windows and android but she just like using apple better. She was due for an upgrade so I went with a value as she has an iPhone again.

[oak pier]

no dedicated charging port is also annoying

the magsafe 3 connector is genuinely awesome

[mortal lion]

Now for me. I wouldn't touch that neo mf with a 10 foot pole. I want upgradable ram, storage and actual usability out of my laptop.

[tame ermine]

Wsgd guys

[lean bay]

who is moving on to windows 12?
IDK windows 11 taking stuff out.
Where's mspaint. task bar can't move it to the right anymore, just middle look.
It's going to look like ios. it's starting to from windows 10.
Maybe i7 line of cpu vires. ipad, imac , i7 cpu. lol

[scarlet timber]

Windows 12 doesnt exist, so no one

Paint still exists and can be used

Right side task bar... Uhhhh... Im sorry for that

But I still use it on the left side

Can it not be put on the right? really?

[scarlet timber]

Yeah I would only view the neo viable at $500. For a new device with apples support looks okay

[strange elk]

Apple: innovative only when they want to be which is almost never

[lean bay]

there saying a subscription for windows 12
SOmething we can take off. A lite free version probably there.
Maybe software to take it all out. so we can not worry about it.
They took out the option to move the task bar to the right side. for windows 11 . there is software to move it that side now.
Got windows 11 now

[strange elk]

Who is "there"

I didn't know Ms Word was 3rd party

Bro what are you on about "risk your life" if it scares you that much use Linux or smth

Unless its Microsoft themselves saying these things about an official release or someone has their hands on the OS FROM Microsoft, its all needless conjecture

[dusky jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/pam-the-office-confused-confuse-confusion-gif-24583205

[frank lagoon]

linux is fun

[strange elk]

It does what its told

[frank lagoon]

Exactly!

[dusky jacinth]

Admittedly, that's where I'm strongly considering going once I upgrade my platform to AM5.

[frank lagoon]

not being like edge when you try delete it

[strange elk]

Linux doesn't have default programs, and you can rip apart the kernel if you really want

[frank lagoon]

i want to put linux on a ps3 as its possible, wonky as hell

[strange elk]

Ehh idk if Id recommend it. On a ps4 much less a ps3

[frank lagoon]

ps4 not in this house

ps3 had linux support before sony did evil things in 2010

damn them

[strange elk]

Yea I know, wonder what kernel its at for ps3

[frank lagoon]

no idea

[strange elk]

"Very modern 6.4" apparently

As of Aug 2024

Lol lxde

[dusky jacinth]

Hmmm speaking of Win12.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PpQp0UbR52w

[strange elk]

lmao.. ofc

[lean bay]

hehe
Youtube lady video
Ran away with windows 9 laptop.
I can't even buy that.
What place has windows 9 or lower?

Does windows versions matter of what content you get? Differences?
I see difference in same games from xbox and PlayStation. it's still same game.

[strange elk]

The internet is already completely dead now

All bots and the people that believe them

[dusky jacinth]

Well, unless you're in it's oldest places that are still untouched, like NeoCities and such.

[lean bay]

this internet is full of bad news.

[strange elk]

I gotta actually finish a neocities site

[strange elk]

Bad news is nothing new

[strange elk]

But yea like I said, needless conjecture

20mb hard drive in '89 on a laptop man

Crazy how far weve come with data density

[carmine dew]

https://youtu.be/iitq4Zrphdk?si=MNx8-KzkQzy1KfCQ

[strange elk]

https://youtu.be/_QlsGkDvVHU

[regal oxide]

heyy!

[hollow scroll]

He's addressing mac
https://youtu.be/Okhp89ilgaY?si=bqLsp1B4ySODwThq

[slender lark]

imac neo

[spiral zodiac]

Lol the video on the virtual boy accessory

Why would I be nostalgic for one and spend 100 bucks....when I have one lol.

100 bucks + subscription that is lol.

What would be a good idea is Nintendo pairing the stand thingy with a Bluetooth OG virtual boy style controller too.

[strange elk]

Would make too much sense

They have FANS anyway, they can get bled dry no problem because nostalgia

Didnt even know it was $100 and it doesn't even have actual IPD adjustment or anything lol

What a scam

Would've also made sense to ship it with a cartridge that has "virtual boy classics" or something written on it, though they'd probably make the better games other than maybe mario tennis dlc lol

[karmic kiln]

lmao one usb port on the back of my pc broke off and now all the usb ports in that area don’t work i’m cooked

it’s an alienware pc too so the motherboard is proprietary 🥀

[sand egret]

And AI

[strange elk]

Those are bots

[winged spire]

The US needs to stop testing ICBMs it delays the actually important rocket launches

[winged spire]

https://science.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/2024yr4.gif

That asteroid isn’t hitting the moon

We’re chilling

Look how close it gets though

2024 YR4 is expected to pass by the lunar surface at a distance of 13,200 miles

Insanely close lol

[half plinth]

Hi Everyone

[thorn cave]

[fossil frost]

for the US, the ICBMs ARE the important launches

[winged spire]

lame as fuck

atleast put a payload on it

we need to bring back nuke parties

[fossil frost]

put the ego of some people who run the USA on it... when those burst, they will cause a bigger explosion than any warhead

[junior wyvern]

apple is pulling me in with the new display they have, don't think I'm gonna get it this gen but I'm gonna keep it in the back of my mind

[versed wave]

The new video on the new macbook neo is the audio not synced with the video or is that just my computer doing something wonky

[fossil frost]

report it in the forum, nothing anyone in here can do

[plain gale]

was synced for me on both yt and fp earlier today

[versed wave]

dont have an account but thanks!

[fossil frost]

if only it was super easy, almost negligable effort.. to create one

[versed wave]

If only!

[fossil frost]

btw... you heard the phrase "its like walking through treacle" or "swimming through treacle".. i heard somebody described today as "thinking through treacle", its now one of my favourite insults 😁

[mystic tundra]

it’s interesting for sure but definitely not a bulldozer of a deal

remember… mobile soc, 8gb ram and 256gb storage for the base model

the screen isn’t impressive either for an lcd it is good but again… not impressive

[calm swan]

until you remember the displays on other laptops that cost $499-599 new

[mystic tundra]

vivobook oleds looked like a much better deal when they were under $500

[calm swan]

which are almost all lower resolution 45% ntsc displays

[mystic tundra]

unless you’re looking of macos and battery life

[fossil frost]

"mobile soc" is just closed minded and dismissive... its performance is somewhere between an M1 and an M1 Pro. which.. for most people is plenty.. 8gb of ram for most people, is plenty, 256gb for most people, is plenty... dont forget... most people use their phone for everything... the neo is cheaper than a lot of mid range phones.. and it will shit on their performance.. also... this is gonna get bought by schools... by the pallet load...

dont forget.. "most people" want a web browser..

[mystic tundra]

vivobook oleds used to be impressive for the price

[calm swan]

yes when they were on sale for $599. now they’re back at $749

the neo starts at $599

[mystic tundra]

i missed out on few for 399

kept staring at it until it sold out

cause i wanted a student’s discount on it and it’d be like $250 after

but unfortunately i was 1 year too early for that so i didn’t pull the trigger in the end even for 400

[mystic tundra]

yes, starts… you get a lame 256gb storage

$150 phones have that kind of storage amount

if you want to upgrade to 512gb you don’t pay extra +$15, +$30, not even +$50, you gotta pay a whole +$100

[fossil frost]

what you fail to see is.. everything you mentioned doesnt make the neo bad.. it just means you dont want one

[mystic tundra]

$150 phones have 8gb ram btw

[calm swan]

dude just don’t buy it holy

[mystic tundra]

i’m just saying it’s overhyped

[fossil frost]

if you dont like it.. just dont buy it... plenty of other people will, because its more than plenty for them

[mystic tundra]

it’s like the iphone se 2

[calm swan]

at $499 edu its a fine laptop for its target audience

[fossil frost]

no, you just arent its target audience

[mystic tundra]

for who is the laptop other than people that want macos and/or battery efficiency?

[calm swan]

if you want, pick up a refurbed 14” macbook pro for $630 if 8/256 bothers you

[calm swan]

the k-12 market, old people (or really anyone) that want a no-nonsense laptop for basic tasks

[fossil frost]

schools who are about to throw 1000s of chromebooks in the bin

[hazy parrot]

Bad value would be a better argument

[fossil frost]

guess what those kids are gonna buy after they leave school and go to university? £1500 macbooks... because they are used to macos, not windows

apple are giving kids their first taste for free... so they get hooked... and come back with their parents credit cards later

google tried it.. and massively fucked it up...

[mystic tundra]

i should’ve said who needs

[fossil frost]

nobody NEEDS it.. people will WANT it, because 1. its an affordable macOS device. 2. its an affordable device that provides a browser. 3. schools will get it heavily discounted, and with its battery life, it will last a whole school day, maybe several school days between charges, meaning kids wont be complaining that they cant do their work half way through a school day.

as i said before.. what you are pointing out are not things that are WRONG with the neo, they are just reasons that you wouldnt buy one for yourself, and that boils down to you not being in their target market.. which simply by being in this server, i could have told you that you were not.. because they are not aimed at the tech enthusiast at all

[mystic tundra]

that’s why we are here to discourage people from buying poor value products so they save money

[hollow scroll]

599 for it is a great price

[fossil frost]

you shouldnt be discouraging anyone from doing anything.. thats not your job at all.. you should provide them with information, and have them make their own decisions... its not YOUR decision to make for them, its theirs

and discouraging everyone from buying it, without knowing their use case, without knowing what they want and need from their device, is straight up idiotic, and counter productive, because you could very well be discouraging them from buying the best device for their needs for the best price

you would be actively encouraging them to waste their money on something that isnt suitable

[mystic tundra]

i already listed the reasons why they’d be buying the device… macos and efficiency… feel free to list anything else

[fossil frost]

you need to know that your opinion, and your usecase.. isnt everybodies opinion, and everybodies use case.. differnet people.. are different to you... and have different needs to you.. if you cant understand that, dont offer any help to anyone at all

[fossil frost]

macos, efficiency, they are already within the apple eco system and just need a browser, and it would be best for them to keep to the same ecosystem for simplicity. apps they need are more available on macos. they could have been specifically asked for one by a child/parent for their particular reasons, and being told to buy something else means that relative is no longer getting the present they asked for

[gilded quest]

Be mad at only 5gb for free iCloud, not 256gb for the MacBook

[fossil frost]

also.. about half of the POs and sales people at my work would use them, because they literally just need a device that displays spreadsheets and powerpoint presentations, and lasts the full work day while hopping from desk to desk and meeting room to meeting room. the other half would have MBPs, for the screen space, because they MAKE those spreadsheets and powerpoints

[mystic tundra]

your argument has a mild flaw, without that push some people may buy things like an explosive psu even with the information provided that it is an explosive or the push/counterargument is used alongside or is the information that is the push or someone else may push someone into buying a thing by saying things like “great value” as some people interpret it as generally for most

[fossil frost]

a PSU that explodes isnt a bad value, its a defective product that gets a recall.. we arent on about defective products, we are on about a new product that you dont like, and are looking for any way to tell people they shouldnt buy too, when its got nothing at all to do with you what people do with their own money

your argument has a MASSIVE flaw... its a bad argument

[mystic tundra]

psu that explodes is a bad value

and some don’t get recalled

[fossil frost]

no, PSUs that explode are bad products

[mystic tundra]

the manufacturer won’t repay you if it destroys your components

[fossil frost]

the neo hasnt exploded

the neo hasnt yet been shown to be defective

you are making a very bad argument just so you can claim the win

so ok.. you win.. i cant be arsed speaking with somebody who is making such a stupid argument

[mystic tundra]

bad product is a bad product because it’s expensive, even an explosive psu depending on the use case is good if you got it for free and you’re especially experienced to take it apart and reuse the good parts

[mystic tundra]

i don’t want to win i’m just explaining my logic

i should’ve used a properly regulated psu vs poorly regulated psu as an example

[mystic tundra]

also 8gb is not enough just for enthusiasts… even considering macos is well optimized 8gb won’t be enough if you want to run a software plus have open tabs in the background on the go, 256gb (236gb after os) is… it’s enough for like downloading things your teacher sends you and few applications but that job can also other oses/laptops do… the cpu+gpu is also not impressive for the price which only leaves us with battery efficiency and macos being special for some

[calm swan]

the laptop isn’t for enthusiasts in the first place

[mystic tundra]

i always mention that i’m overgeneralizing things which i do but most people do prefer more ram on a laptop (like 12-16gb), faster soc and larger storage which the neo lacks of

[calm swan]

it’s enough for like downloading things your teacher sends you and few applications

yes that’s exactly what it’s meant for

literally an apple chromebook

[mystic tundra]

you do not need to spend 499 to do that

[fossil frost]

i keep trying to say that, but they wont listen, because they have a bug up their arse about it, and think everybody is the same as them and has the same usecase as them and needs the same thing they need.. ive given up

[calm swan]

i too prefer 16gb but i’m also not the target audience for this laptop. i’m better served by a macbook air or pro

[fossil frost]

see, this is a sensible, well thought out opinion

[mystic tundra]

i feel like you’re missing that i acknowledged macos and battery efficiency

[fossil frost]

personally, if i was a mac person, MBP with 48gb of ram, but then again, im a software developer that runs very large complex projects, and i need the ram... if i just needed a browser.. i wouldnt waste my money

[mystic tundra]

there are cheaper laptops that can display work and open files.

[calm swan]

exactly

[mystic tundra]

or same priced laptops with better ram, storage or soc

[calm swan]

cheaper than $499? good luck finding anything that’s actually good under $500

[fossil frost]

ive just bought 2 £500 laptops for my kids at xmas... it was a struggle to get anything that was worth buying for what they wantedit for.. ended up getting lucky, and getting 2x £700 laptops for 2x £500 because of discount codes and cash back.. so i know exactly how hard it is to find something worth using in that price range

currently using a thinkpad p1 gen8 for work with a ultra 2 285, rtx pro 1000 and 64gb of ram. 5 grand.. but.. i wouldnt go round recommending that to everyone.. just because i use it.. nor would i tell people they shouldnt use something else, because its not what i would use

[karmic kiln]

anyone seen the apple tiktok account

the videos they’re making don’t seem apple like anymore

they’re becoming gen z what is this

kinda hilarious

[mystic tundra]

check out xiaomi redmi books with 210h cpu

accessibility is an issue with them but you can buy one

[calm swan]

so it’s not an option if you can’t get it easily

[mystic tundra]

for most regions it would take 1-2 weeks to arrive

ok whatever that is a hassle for most and i guess random sales don’t count such as with the vivobooks

but you can import from asian markets if your time isn’t scarse, a lot of the specs are up to 60% off compared to the us market so even if you get high import taxes high like 30-40% (always verify beforehand) it’s still worth it if you have a spare hour or two

there are like 10980hk laptops for dirt, dirt cheap with 16gb ram and 512gb for 2000cny

and 1800 for 256gb

[long fog]

I am sane

does anyone know if dolphins can chew on pc parts safely?

[tawny zinc]

yes

[strange elk]

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[wicked pagoda]

my pc wont open anything windows settings related, anyone got a fix?

[vapid smelt]

install linux or go to mac

[split swift]

do a windows repair or reinstall

[novel river]

Well. Gonna miss Bell

[split swift]

what

[novel river]

He just left

[split swift]

who is that

[novel river]

Bell? Shortcircuit?

[split swift]

oh

[novel river]

Yeah. Follow him on X, so saw his post. 🥲

[split swift]

yeah its unfortunate

alot of ppl have left recently

I wonder if ltt has became worse to work for

since they are becoming more and more corporate

[novel river]

Doubt it. I just think people want a change of scenery. The people who have left have been there for a long time. And it seems they decided to take what they learned at LTT and use it to make videos on their own channel but while being able to make videos on their own ideas

[split swift]

well jake left bc working thre got worse for him

which is why I said that

[novel river]

Yeah. But it doesnt seem like that for anybody else

[split swift]

yeah

[iron bane]

Guys im new to linux i just installed ubuntu

Is it good?

[split swift]

?

[grim hedge]

do you guys think that samsungs one ui is optimised? i don't.

main reason why this happens is that samsungs one ui forces stuff into swap wayy too quickly and then normal ram starts filling up once the swap is filled

[split swift]

I like the UI

[steel dragon]

I just rebuilt my pc with meshify 3 and NHd15 g2

My cpu is 13700k. While running cinebench multi core my cpu hits 98c while drawing around 260w

Is this normal?

I’m sure the fans are at full speed and there’s proper contact

[silk kettle]

i don't think so

[steel dragon]

So what’s the issue

[alpine gale]

Yes, it is normal. https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/yamo89/cpu_temps_issue_i713700k_thermalright_cpu_frame/

[steel dragon]

I watched gn’s review and it shows temp delta at around 55

[silk kettle]

+2c you could make some pasta

[steel dragon]

While drawing 250w

That means actual cpu temp is like 80 something.

[alpine gale]

Then ask GN how they achieved those temps... I don't buy this on a regular air cooler though.

[silk kettle]

that good a stove can use 1,000w-3,000w

[alpine gale]

Especially when running a synthetic benchmarking utility. The CPU is being taxed heavily. Expect heat.

[steel dragon]

Ok thanks

[grim hedge]

i used to like it but they bloated it up so much that it made me not like one ui

[covert cradle]

they tested in this open frame. Your constrained case could account for at least an additional 15C delta

[winged spire]

Why would you ever buy a MacBook neo when El Capitan is right there

[gilded quest]

It's fine

[mystic tundra]

what’s your ambient temp?

you’d be surprised how many factors play out… even humidity

even if your contact is perfect the mounting pressure can mildly vary between motherboards

the paste you used as well

[versed void]

Finally i also got ai search on google

Everybody had it for so long but i wasnt getting it but finalyl happened on my end also

I'm never gonna use it but whyt not stay it

[elfin jetty]

Only 600 mil? Thats nothing

[thorny halo]

Hi Everyone ! 🙏

[alpine gale]

Well, given how #rules 6 + 9 exists, couldn't tell you.

[split swift]

nice 😏

[long briar]

That's gotta be on purpose

like the wombo combo of rule slapping someone

rule 9 basically goes "not obeying the laws are illegal"

so one of the most common things to talk about in a tech server is piracy, soooo

[strange elk]

Its been discussed, seemingly can be discussed

Just not allowed to talk distribution really

[long briar]

well it's discussed for sure, half the internet was developed through piracy breakthroughs lul

but yeah you can't guide someone into how to get something pirated

but I don't think talking about how decentralized sharing works is a problem

[fierce hull]

Hi!

[civic abyss]

Hi Guys!

[teal estuary]

Afaik, it's within the rules to guide someone on how to setup a torrent server, setup an RSS feed, seeding rules, etc, for legal purposes (ie: actual Linux ISOs)
the line is with guiding to the illegal content, or for obviously that specific purpose

So long as you are being an upstanding member of the Linux community and helping seed Linux distribution ISOs, it's all fine

[silver sun]

771

[versed void]

has anybody watched show called "The Bear" yet not gonna lie this is nice wasnt expecting this

[chrome vector]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-hammer-futurama-scruffy-gif-20750885

[rough socket]

It's insane how many recruiters are contacting me and how few solid things it leads to

[lament garden]

hi yall here to learn

is entry level get your foot in the door certification CCNA still relevant in 2026?

[rough socket]

Getting certs is always useful tbh considering how easy they are to get
If you can get them close to free that is

But nowadays there are way more work in devops stuff so if you have to pay for one maybe go towards more devops related stuff

[plush jungle]

Time to clean it up

[stone igloo]

hi

[scarlet owl]

Clean it ya skank

I’ve seen less dust on an Egyptian tomb

[warped jay]

was the pc left in the sand for 10 years or what?

[steel dragon]

I took off the side panel while testing

Also I got same result with side panel on and off

I have 2 140mm fan pushing air directly into the cpu cooler

Running at 100% while testing

[plush jungle]

Had no idea it just got so dusty

[plush jungle]

Not that bad

[plush jungle]

Had it n shed n it is dusty out their

[echo sluice]

only 600 mil

[flat pivot]

🥳 50k orbs - is this world record?

[frank lagoon]

all you will get is "oh cool"

[sand egret]

50k orbs like so much real money for discord, also kinda shows how much time you spend on here watching ads and stuff

[forest chasm]

It's a sad time, Myrient rom server is getting shut down by the end of the month it seems going by a post on r/ps3 there is a archiving project to keep items available though luckily

But who knows how long that'll last

[strange elk]

That I don't know is OK to post

[plush jungle]

Best tool for cleaning pc

Works so good blows the dust right away

[vital cypress]

Just bulit my new pc

[vital cypress]

Thats one dusty pc 😆, is that the asus rog strix 1080TI i use to have that gpu

[vital cypress]

I have one off these ones bought it a long long time ago though

[analog brook]

Or just use equicord

automatically does quests for you without doing anything

[gilded quest]

I have the silver version (WF100 or something?) of this
It's awesome

[kind vine]

He has ram people, slime him out-

[frozen falcon]

you guys wont belive me when i say this

am a racist

yk why

cuz i go racing

i said that as a joke on a job interveiw and landed the job

that was lowkey my first ever job interview too

either am lucky af or the world is rigged

b4 i went a guy like asked "first time" in that one tone

[tired glade]

I would quit, this sounds like a lot of red flags

[frozen falcon]

i was already a temporary worker

the job interview was for a formality

the entire interview went with dad jokes and small talk

[strange elk]

New job strat, label myself a racist

[forest chasm]

Hadn't heard of that, but I'll give it a quick search, not sure what you mean about automatically doing quests tho 😅

[analog brook]

you dont need to play games/watch vids to complete

if u know what vencord is, equicord is just a better version

[alpine gale]

And both of which violate Discord's Terms of Service. 😁

[analog brook]

very low chance of being banned for it

[forest chasm]

I'm just struggling to figure out what that has to do with a rom repository being closed at the end of the month.

It's late in the day and I'm sleepy so reading comprehension is low and I'm sorry about that

[analog brook]

i replied to the wrong message sorry 💀

it was meant for the guy above u, sorry about the confusion

[forest chasm]

We're cool man no stress sorry I didn't realize sooner 🤣 I'm off to bed lmao

[analog brook]

allg broskie

[grave lynx]

ive seen a lotta ppl being banned for vencord

in other servers n stuff

[analog brook]

i’ve used it for like 2 years

most people get banned for using plugins that are more advanced

not small ones

[grave lynx]

maybe not in this server but in others i have

[grave lynx]

like this one

[analog brook]

yeah ik some servers don’t like it

[strange elk]

Here? Try them lol

[alpine gale]

It's not a case of not liking it. Knowing that users are violating the ToS but not doing anything about it can quite literally get an entire server banned. Sometimes Discord will even punish users who were in that server just for being there too. Community Servers are required to uphold the ToS much more stringently than non-community servers, too.

[strange elk]

Almost said that

[flat pivot]

how do mods even figure out someone is using vencord, did they like share screenshots of veconrd plugins "haha look at this cool veconrd I have installed guys"

[hearty spear]

I mean, I've seen at least a couple dozen people banned for basically doing that

[flat pivot]

oh so people who openly admin to using discord mods can get banned on some servers

but the discord account itself I haven't heard getting banned for this

[hearty spear]

using alternate clients is directly against the Discord ToS.

And since mods of affiliated servers care more about the server than some random dipshit using an alt client?
They're gonna ban that scrub.

That's the long and short of it.

[pallid falcon]

lets all agree that if we (allegedly) violated the discord tos we'd not admit to it, thus, no one would know of the violation

[flat pivot]

https://giphy.com/gifs/smile-grinch-maniacal-x7gjmBuaHrWak

[pallid falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-tech-tips-linus-sebastian-no-gif-4987727964430313371

[hearty spear]

I mean, people have just posted screenshots that included deleted messages on the client side?

So, clearly, yeah. that's a thing they do to get banned.

[grave lynx]

you wouldnt believe how stupid some people are...

[rigid arch]

Did y’all know that Bell left LTT?

[hearty spear]

yup

[pallid falcon]

tasty bread

[ruby belfry]

Suppose this could be called a tech question but I want people's opinions... Do you think that if you use Microsoft's cloud that your files will be used to train AI?

[long fog]

Guys my husband's girlfriend just found out that my uncle is actually her husband 💀💀💀

[plush jungle]

2080ti asus

[somber loom]

Yes. Also have heard reports of Microsoft accounts being closed no questions asks or appeals therefore losing all files , licenses etc because the person uploaded photos like family photos and Microsoft ai mistakenly marked them as illegal content.

[ruby belfry]

Does that include a business account?

[plush jungle]

my amd 3600 ios starting to lag with two monitors n multi tasking whats a cheap but gopod upgrade

[strange elk]

Themeing via css. Any of that is considered it I suppose

[hearty spear]

assume that anything in the cloud is

[ruby belfry]

Again I assumed as much but thanks for confirmation. At least this melting pot of information will always give me options

[hearty spear]

this is the weirdest shitpost i've seen in a while

[somber loom]

Correct. There might some controls depending on your region

[flat pivot]

in this case you need a boyfriend that is actually married to your husband's aunt 😀

[shy lance]

hey question what app does LTT use for messuring power draw with graphs and a total system power draw

[hearty spear]

probably a hardware solution

apps are inherently unreliable

[harsh quartz]

They’ve shown it before iirc, long time ago though. Just something you plug the pc into and it measures power draw from the wall

[ionic abyss]

ok if a neighbor who lives 2 roads down if listing a steam deck oled for $50 is it worth picking up

i can litteraly walk and pick it up

[languid aurora]

Ofc it would be

[ionic abyss]

i suspect there is many searches for steam decks right now

[lean bay]

is there difference in content you get from different windows versions?
I think i can still talk to buddy's online with social media. i dobt they have the exact pc os as me.

[thin fjord]

It’s all the same more or less

[fossil frost]

unless they specifically tell you they arent, then assume the are.. and even if they tell you they are not, assume they can and will change the ToS silently at some point and allow themselves to do so

also... look mum no computer with the this years uk eurovision song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XR2RvfZ-68

[hearty spear]

I'll pay you 100+ shipping for it

[silver sun]

772

[versed void]

can leds increase the temprature or i'm just psychologically thinking that its hotter

like 4 meters of leds

[fossil frost]

they will warm up to a certain temp, then likely reach a set temp and stay at that

[versed void]

gotcha

[latent wagon]

Watching someone that does PC builds on twitch. Apparently $2,000 gets you an i5 and 8gb 5060 now

[fossil frost]

only if they specifically went out of their way to craft that narative

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WxsYrG no that gets you a 7800x3d and rtx 5070 with a 2tb SSD and 32gb ram

[karmic wedge]

god, seeing 32GB DDR5 at NZ$650 is a very sobering view

it's just vile

[full fossil]

Thats like maybe 50 euro

[karmic wedge]

it is defo more than 50 euro

[full fossil]

I know im making fun of your worthless currency

[karmic wedge]

Kiwi dollar to the euro is like 2:1

so NZ$650 is like 330 euro

[full fossil]

Thats cheap ram nowadays

32gb ddr5 is 600 euro

[karmic wedge]

oh fr?

[full fossil]

Thats 1200 nzd

[karmic wedge]

The european prices are even more cooked?

[full fossil]

Some prices are lower but always out of stock

Its somewhere between 350 and 700

😭

[karmic wedge]

yeah I just checked German PCPP

and then I remembered I can't read German

[full fossil]

And I felt like I overpaid for my ram in 2023

[karmic wedge]

But I think it said something about getting added to a mailing list when stock is available, it was a GSkill kit for 365 euro

[full fossil]

I paid 170 euro for 32gb 6000-cl36

In feb 2023

[full fossil]

Im dutch, our prices are always higher

[karmic wedge]

ok yeah this one is available

[full fossil]

Even though we help create alot of modern networking and internet

WiFi was created here

[karmic wedge]

maybe a dozen or more kits throughout the entire country

[karmic wedge]

Thought that was Australia who invented Wifi?

[full fossil]

802.11 was made by Vic hayes

A dutchman

Well he was chairman

[karmic wedge]

hmmm, neato

also, look at what we once had

Price tags in NZ include the 15% sales tax

[full fossil]

WiFi’s predecessor, wavelan, was made in Nieuwegein

[karmic wedge]

yeah, so Nederland invented the Wifi standard, but Australia begun work on the test bed for WLAN in the first place two years prior. That was done in 1992 after that standard your fellas made was completed

[full fossil]

Yeah

Thats correct

Bluetooth was made here too iirc

Like the standard

Or it was a dutch guy who made it

[alpine gale]

The Swedes started Bluetooth. Good old Ericsson Mobile. ❤️ 2x swedes and 2x dutch, all working for Ericsson.

[lyric sphinx]

Both named after vikings

[stark idol]

discord moved the new post button ig

[alpine gale]

Oof. Now that there's a UI/UX design blunder if I ever saw one. I see it too on my Discord Mobile.

[olive basin]

Whattup

[hidden bramble]

I need a good browser to replace chrome on my Chromebook

[alpine gale]

Chromebooks natively run ChromeOS which only uses Chrome as the browser...

[hidden bramble]

I’m working on building custom Chromium

[alpine gale]

Ah see that context is extremely important. In that case, pick whatever flavor of Chromium browser you feel works best for your needs.

[hidden bramble]

It’s a school device btw

Lenovo 300e Yoga Chromebook Gen 4
Disabled: dev mode LDE crosh USB boot

[carmine dew]

https://youtube.com/shorts/lGbJfK1Y3ms?si=1-DzKyudMlQfBPHh

[full fossil]

Hey 👋

[long fog]

I have a idea :
Since alot of people are struggling to find a job I'm thinking of introducing a pay to work system where the workers pays the employers to work at their prestigious workplace.
this not only put people back into jobs but also grants opportunities for experience and learning

[olive basin]

Sounds like a Jake Tivy comment

[long fog]

it's like university, you pay to learn and get knowledge and experience

[olive basin]

If you want to pay for something, go to college. Jobs are jobs. People make their living by jobs. Nobody is ever going to pay an employer a 30k-100k salary a year just for experience.

[mystic tundra]

so money gets converted to negative money and you need to work in order for your money to get into the negatives? and you pay with negative money?

[alpine gale]

If I am providing value to another entity, they must compensate me, not the other way around. Full stop. The fact that I happen to receive experience and knowledge whilst working is simply a side effect.

[versed void]

would you guys take a loan to start a business?

loan from bank

[long fog]

no you pay with loans and after you have enough experience you can finally pay back those loans to continue working

[oak pier]

most people do, yeah

[long fog]

with interest ofc

[versed void]

Sick of freelance work

it beats the fuck out of my system

[long fog]

so it's a closed loop system
you pay for work using loans
you get paid for working to pay for your loans

so nobody gets rich

which as we know being rich is unfair

[long fog]

they should make freelance workers pay for a license to freelance

[versed void]

that would be lit

but wont happen obviously

[long fog]

the only way to be rich is to already be rich which is fair

[mystic tundra]

what about abolishing the monetary system and establish “help each other”
those that don’t want help (unless they can’t) don’t get helped
i don see where ma idea could go very wong /s /s

[versed void]

i dont care about being rich i care about like having an actual work that pays you not deadly amount

[long fog]

it should be made illegal

[versed void]

Like when i get in a job i get paid 490 dolalrs a month as minimum salary

But the problem is everybody pays the minimum out here

So you work 12 hours a day 6 days a week and get paid 490 dollars a day

that fucking hurts me badly

[long fog]

12 hour work week is a dream I wish all my workers worked that hard for the same amount of salary

[mystic tundra]

every system has it’s disadvantages due to someone always taking advantage

[versed void]

so you also want slaves 😭

[long fog]

nah they get paid

[versed void]

They even get you unpaid overtimes you cant even say no if you say no they just kick you out and get another person

[versed void]

but like at least they can afford something

[long fog]

You go to university to get a job
you go to a job to pay for your university loan
your job pays 2000$ a month
your university interest is 1500$ a month

[versed void]

We also have heavy taxing on anything

[sturdy dune]

fast food pays 2k a month bro

have you ever worked before

[long fog]

we already see it in 3rd world countries, hire workers don't pay them and replace them

[versed void]

I've got studied at 3 different universities i still cant find job

All 3 was full scholarship so no money was spent

[long fog]

yeah I manage multiple properties

[versed void]

yeah i'm in 3rd world country

it was probably like 1st world before but not anymore

[pulsar kiln]

That was your first mistake

[long fog]

exploitation ruins a nation

[versed void]

No cause there was a reason why i have done it

I also worked at the same time by the way

[pulsar kiln]

For what reason?

[versed void]

Mandotory military service for 12 months to 6 months if you are not actively studying

so i worked and studied instead of military

[pulsar kiln]

Can't you exploit the "studying" rule?

By not having to go to university

[versed void]

thats what i'm doing right now

[versed void]

if you dont go 3 times per season you get kicked out

[pulsar kiln]

Do something that is classified as studying, but not university

[versed void]

that doesnt work no you gotta be in a school

just studying doesnt work

[pulsar kiln]

Are you 100% positive? You've had a lawyer look at the fine print?

I'm sure a lawyer could find a loophole. That's what they do

[grand pasture]

help my keyboard is so fucked i cant type anything on the bottom row

[versed void]

No i havent but i'm sure you either gotta get active student perk or you going

[pulsar kiln]

There are some stupid laws here too, but lawyers find ways

[versed void]

and cant afford lawyer :d

[pulsar kiln]

Cheaper than university here

[pulsar kiln]

Plug in a different one

[versed void]

Like i said i got full scholarship in all of them

[pulsar kiln]

Gotcha

[versed void]

so no money spent i even gained money by doing homework for others :d

[grand pasture]

easier said than done

|ZXCVBNM|ZXCVBNM<

[pulsar kiln]

They are like $2 these days. Then use Bluetooth from your phone to the PC. Use phone as keyboard.

[grand pasture]

W kb

[pulsar kiln]

Good on them for standing by the law

https://github.com/c3d/db48x/blob/stable/LEGAL-NOTICE.md

[left summit]

Other than X and Threads is there any other social media platforms with a huge tech following?

[pulsar kiln]

YouTube

[left summit]

I meant text-based platforms

[pulsar kiln]

Telegram

[winter cedar]

hello :3

[pulsar kiln]

Have you every purposely lit your GPU on fire just to see what color it burns?

I always figured AMD would burn red, and Nvidia would burn green. Unfortunately my expectations were not met

[cyan prism]

had to do a double take on this one I thought I read this wrong
what

[pulsar kiln]

I was curious, so I lit them on fire. I kept hearing this team red and team green thing and kept wondering what the hell that was about. I'm still confused

[cyan prism]

I'm confused about why you lit them on fire

[pulsar kiln]

To see if they would burn red and green

[cyan prism]

you were that curious huh

[pulsar kiln]

Yes, I still have no idea the meaning of team red or green. No one ever explains

[ornate prawn]

normal hulk or red hulk?

[cyan prism]

I couldn't explain it to you either, I don't know the meaning as well 🤔

[cyan prism]

I prefer normal hulk I guess

[ornate prawn]

team green baby!

[cyan prism]

Green is a nice color

[pulsar kiln]

Like a frog

Red is like my pee in the morning

[cyan prism]

don't think that's supposed to happen

[cyan prism]

or green like US cash
money money!

[pulsar kiln]

I thought it was just due to the reflection of the sunrise as I was pissing off the balcony into the rice field

[pulsar kiln]

Never seen

[cyan prism]

dude what

[cyan prism]

how come

[pulsar kiln]

Yeah man. You know how the sunrise and reflection...?

[pulsar kiln]

Don't care for their cash.

[cyan prism]

I mean yeah I suppose

[cyan prism]

fair

[pulsar kiln]

You've never experienced this?

[cyan prism]

Nope

[pulsar kiln]

It devalues too fast

[pulsar kiln]

Shit... I thought this was just normal

[cyan prism]

I don't even know what to say for this man

[cyan prism]

my double chunk chocolate cookie from costco says otherwise

[pulsar kiln]

Just buy that and sell to SEA. You'll probably double your money instantly

[pulsar kiln]

Sorry to confuse

[cyan prism]

I've probably bought it like once for the shits n' giggles then never got it again

[cyan prism]

🤷‍♂️

[pulsar kiln]

Very unfortunate situation n

[cyan prism]

Just is a very big cookie

[pulsar kiln]

Doesn't exist in SEA

[cyan prism]

what is that

[pulsar kiln]

South East Asia.

[cyan prism]

ah

[pulsar kiln]

Kinda important part of the world...

Also insanely cheap part of the world to live

[cyan prism]

I actually just didn't realize you were talking about that
I'm kinda drowsy atm forgive me

[pulsar kiln]

It happens

Moved here 3 years ago. Such a great place to live

[cyan prism]

What's great about it 🤔

[pulsar kiln]

Life in general. So easy and enjoyable.

Compared to North America, it's not even comparable. Quality of life is substantially better in SEA

[cyan prism]

I live in California, so I really don't know

[pulsar kiln]

I'll tell you this. Go live in other countries if you never have. It's an education and lifestyle you should know. Do it for a few years. Not weeks or months. You can't know in that short time. You need time you actually see and understand things.

Been the best thing I ever did in life, live all all-round, especially outside of typical propaganda zones

[cyan prism]

Maybe in the future. I don't have many plans to live in other places, I like living more quiet where there's not really much to bother me