public-chat

[oak pier]

best liquor, great in coke, or dr pepper (trust me, try it)

[white finch]

water is the best drink ☺️☺️

[oak pier]

ik alcohol and dr pepper sounds dumb, but trust

[obsidian horizon]

i mean what if i dont wanna try liquor at all

[oak pier]

Then don’t?

[split swift]

na, I like my juice and rum

[obsidian horizon]

also we dont have dr pepper here

[oak pier]

it’s entirely personal choice

[mystic tundra]

@obsidian horizon @split swift @oak pier just to be extra annoying what do you guys think

[oak pier]

i hate people that shame others for not drinking alcohol

[obsidian horizon]

yeah i usually dont try stuff cuz i fear getting addicted

[vapid smelt]

i shame people for not drinking water

[split swift]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-shirt-fireball-markus-gif-12346878

[oak pier]

Alcohol is pretty hard to get addicted to

[obsidian horizon]

i am thinking of eating something fried

what about you

[oak pier]

having a drink every now and then won’t get you addicted unless you have pre existing provlems

[split swift]

its easy if you drink it like water

[mystic tundra]

i had fried cheeze in 9 layers toda

[white finch]

alot of people get pressured into it or think it's cool to drink

[mystic tundra]

eidam

[oak pier]

It’s cool to drink, and it’s cool not to drink

[obsidian horizon]

oh shi he is getting drunk

[mystic tundra]

i will shove you into a trunk if no shushy shush

or a tree bark

[obsidian horizon]

🥺

[oak pier]

i know loads of people that don’t drink for religious reasons, them not drinking alcohol doesn’t make them any less cool

[obsidian horizon]

drinking alcohol is not cool

[oak pier]

it’s neither cool nor not cool, it’s just a thing

[obsidian horizon]

yeah

[vapid smelt]

put them in my it has not inside release handel and the seats dont fold down and have a steel wall behind it

[mystic tundra]

drinking is only cool if you make friends that benefit you overall

not when you make friends that you drink with only

[oak pier]

if your habits don’t hurt you or others, i see no issue

[split swift]

na, its fun to me, but I do it responsibly, mostly, i did alot recently to get the funny feeling then stopped

[mystic tundra]

deal

[obsidian horizon]

hmm

[oak pier]

“hehe head feel funny” then watch TV for the rest of night

[split swift]

yes but it was youtube

you dont feel it laying down until you move your eyes

[oak pier]

youtube is available on the TV

[split swift]

its massive input delay

[obsidian horizon]

i know people who started smoking just cuz it seems cool and attracts hoes

[split swift]

not for me, no internet

[oak pier]

what

[oak pier]

i promise you, it attracts the wrong kind of women

people who don’t care about their long term physical health are a major no no

[obsidian horizon]

ofc, thats what they want

[white finch]

smoking is so lame 🙏

[oak pier]

most of the smokers i’m close friends with tell me never to start smoking

[mystic tundra]

they should show every day in school what long term smoking does to lung hehe

[oak pier]

Never have smoked, never plan on it

[obsidian horizon]

they start by smoking at school to look cool but hiding it all from their parents

[mystic tundra]

everyone loves dark tar filled lungs no?

[split swift]

same, I also have asthma so it would only make it worse lol

[oak pier]

if you have to do something to “look cool” chances are it’s not a great idea

[mystic tundra]

i only vaped water vapour

[white finch]

irs pretty easy to spot a smoker inhome

[mystic tundra]

from a fan

[oak pier]

love me a humidifier and/or nebulizer

[obsidian horizon]

ik parents just observe

[oak pier]

cleans your lungs out real good

[mystic tundra]

it just felt funni so i did it

[split swift]

i run an air purifier

[obsidian horizon]

watched that asbestos videos from veratasium

crazy shit

[mystic tundra]

asbestor id good wdym

[obsidian horizon]

its not

[mystic tundra]

you need to eat asbestor

[obsidian horizon]

yeah yeah

[mystic tundra]

it’s so healthy

see you agree now

[obsidian horizon]

very health

you should breath in air filled with asbestos dust

[mystic tundra]

i recommend breathing asbestor

[obsidian horizon]

yesss

so you could die early

🥰

[mystic tundra]

no

so you become a superhero!

[obsidian horizon]

mhm

[split swift]

fuck

[mystic tundra]

@split swift no spamming

[split swift]

bro why is a disease censored, thats bs

[vapid smelt]

yeah you just need to take it in healthy amounts

[split swift]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-dance-gif-17141621827373830405

[obsidian horizon]

i make so many typos that even my keyboard started making typos

[white finch]

lol mentioned

[mystic tundra]

i just make typos that seem like my words get corrected, like the meaning flips

[obsidian horizon]

ok

[mystic tundra]

why yarr giving such a lukewarm response

[vapid smelt]

audiophile?

[obsidian horizon]

idk

i amma go eat

[vapid smelt]

who are you eating?

[mystic tundra]

ok bay

[mystic tundra]

canibalims itself

[obsidian horizon]

wanna get eaten?

[split swift]

😏

[white finch]

❓

[split swift]

☺️

[white finch]

⁉️

[vapid smelt]

dont think you are old enough

[split swift]

🚨

bruh

[white finch]

👮

[vapid smelt]

çancer

it works fine for me

[split swift]

https://tenor.com/view/enjoyoblivion-perfect-cell-dragon-ball-z-bully-gif-14923479581779811596

[vapid smelt]

call me names like handsome boy?

[split swift]

ugly girl

☺️

[vapid smelt]

[split swift]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-2-puppet-gangnam-style-gif-5017865932531913760

[white finch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/368511087139618830/1416186775680057397/togif-1.gif

thatas

thats sad

[strange laurel]

phew

[split swift]

https://tenor.com/view/loading-discord-loading-discord-boxes-squares-gif-16187521

[obsidian horizon]

i am

[vapid smelt]

o yeah then whats 9 +10

[split swift]

22

[pallid falcon]

Ez

69

https://tenor.com/view/pout-kiss-blowing-a-kiss-suspense-christian-bale-gif-16931550113965916217

[vapid smelt]

no thats us after date night

[pallid falcon]

[civic fox]

https://klipy.com/gifs/21-whats9plus10-1

there

[obsidian horizon]

21

[chilly creek]

Hmm 🤨 where message go

[sharp cradle]

did it get warshipped??

[tender glade]

no, it got momo'd

[chilly creek]

Possibly

[tender glade]

please keep the chat on topic

[chilly creek]

Sorrryyy i just had to Express the love

[sharp cradle]

😭 idk what you said man but ahhhh

[vapid smelt]

why is can cer in the warships target

[chilly creek]

Someting cool

[tender glade]

express ur love elsewhere. for me, theres only one love..

[chilly creek]

What da helly

Whst kinda remote is that the PlayStation 47?😭🙏

[pallid falcon]

What if I cheat on you with warship

[vapid smelt]

you wouldnt

[pallid falcon]

the holdback

It does not tollartate tacbell like you

[sharp cradle]

you CANNOT ring the bell here i guess

[small bear]

dong

[polar fern]

i cannot understand why anyone still eats fast food when there are better and/or cheaper options literally everywhere, including making your own meals

[vapid smelt]

because my fridge cant make me a burger and fries on the way home from work

[polar fern]

a burger and fries is carnival food

[harsh quartz]

A burger and fries is normal food

[polar fern]

not at all

[dusky jacinth]

Lmao whut.

[harsh quartz]

Except it is

[pallid falcon]

because my friend who works there gives me it free

[dusky jacinth]

That's the first time I ever read anyone saying that.

Burgers and fries is a meal.

And is not restricted to fast food only.

[harsh quartz]

Grilling burgers and baking fries? You live in a fucking clown house apparently

[polar fern]

its -carnival food- to be eatwn very occasionally luke 2x a year

[alpine gale]

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-gif-8224619332671874779

[harsh quartz]

It’s to be eatwn by you Luke two times a year

[polar fern]

yall deep in the propaganda. wow.

[harsh quartz]

The propaganda of… big grill and potato?

[dusky jacinth]

I never received any propaganda about that whatsoever.

Let alone does any of the sort exist.

[harsh quartz]

It’s Hank hill propaganda. Propane and propane accessories

[dusky jacinth]

That's a propaganda?

I never even heard of it till now.

[alpine gale]

Can confirm. It's all just Propane Genesis Evangelion from here on out.

[sharp cradle]

big potato??

[dusky jacinth]

[harsh quartz]

I like that video so much more than I like the actual neon genesis evangelion

[harsh quartz]

Typical, the Irish show up when potato mentioned

[polar fern]

i love when i encounter folks who don't question the origin of things - like tv dinners ... those were invented to get rid of a train full of frozen turkey

[sharp cradle]

true enough

[polar fern]

and the irish famine was caused by the british

sigh

[harsh quartz]

Or, and this is a wild concept, burger taste good, make burger, original doesn’t matter.

[dusky jacinth]

I mean really, most people don't have to whenever it becomes a norm.

[vapid smelt]

and now i eat them for lunch at work

[polar fern]

its junk food

[sharp cradle]

L opinion

[polar fern]

anyways

[harsh quartz]

You eat tv dinners for lunch? Thats illegal

[vapid smelt]

mahsed potatoes and turkey is junk food?

[polar fern]

yes

[dusky jacinth]

The way tv dinners are made is what makes them junk in my opinion. Lmao.

[harsh quartz]

Vegetables and white meat is so bad for you

[dusky jacinth]

A tv dinner can technically be anything, even something you made yourself, and then you can just sit in front of tv with it and nobody can tell you otherwise.

[harsh quartz]

Burgers you can at least try to make… some sort of argument over fats content and red meat, but turkey and mashed potatoes?

[polar fern]

tv dinners are prepackaged set portioned meals sold en masse from grocery stores

[dusky jacinth]

In my opinion, while I get the marketing, to me it's too easy to cheat on that name.

[harsh quartz]

What about this makes it junk food?

[polar fern]

i am talking about the burger and fried bsing normalized as a meal

lots of carbs & fat & protein, no fiber

[harsh quartz]

You also said turkey and mashed potatoes is junk food

[vapid smelt]

is my Chicken Fajita also junk?

[polar fern]

i said it was the first tv dinner

and why

[harsh quartz]

Aww my crop failed

[vapid smelt]

embarrassing how can you fail so hard

[polar fern]

i fail to see where it says "tv dinner"

[dusky jacinth]

Okay, well then how to spin this to actual restaurants that make those professionally, some even at the high end with expensive ingredients just because they can? Also, how would you try spinning it to the people who "veganize" it?

[harsh quartz]

You’ve also failed to explain why this is considered junk food

[harsh quartz]

Fat thumbs

[polar fern]

anyways, its why we have such a huge uptick in colorectal cancer. we are addicted to instant gratification "food" that is better suited to carnivals

[dusky jacinth]

I get some of your argument, but like... It's really hard to make a point of it when it's been done already by way too many people over varying generations. Some even find a way to make it healthy and filling in some way, so as long as you eat such in moderation.

[sharp cradle]

excuse me i want my 6000 mg of sodium in one meal thank you very much

[polar fern]

yall acting like i'm insulting some long tradition of 1100 calorie fat & carb lumps sold as a "meal"

[harsh quartz]

No that’s ramen

[polar fern]

the ramen i ocassionally buy has like 12 grams of sodium, tf you all eating?

[vapid smelt]

the best vending machine lunch

[dusky jacinth]

I don't find it as an insult.
I just don't see how you'd be able to spin that argument, especially with how you're blanketing the statement.

[polar fern]

12 miligrams

[sharp cradle]

i actually just drink coffee and eat bread tbh

[harsh quartz]

Big az stuff always has a weird aftertaste

[polar fern]

🥖

🍞

[sharp cradle]

ew not the fr*nch variety

[polar fern]

[vapid smelt]

i love the extra micro plastics that gets into the food when you microwave it in the package like the instructions state

[pallid falcon]

Food poisioning

[harsh quartz]

That’s what gives it the taste

[dusky jacinth]

I basically just can't take it seriously if you say all of them as a meal is junk food meant for a carnival in terms of serving and kind of occasion.

[polar fern]

all i am saying is that the fast food addiction being treated as normal/acceptable is why we are having people drop dead of colon cancer and other diseases in their 30's and 40's

[sharp cradle]

enter cup noodle

[vapid smelt]

The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) considers 2.0 grams (2000mg
) of sodium per day to be a safe and adequate intake for adults.

[harsh quartz]

I didn’t realize the cup ones were even worse

[sharp cradle]

so eating two cup noodles back to back isnt good for me?

[dusky jacinth]

Well for actual fast food, is acceptable to a point, but is actually generally viewed as very unhealthy, given their prep and the kinds of ingredients that go in them.

[harsh quartz]

Wash it down with a Mr pepper

[vapid smelt]

1.5 grams damn

[vapid smelt]

humans crave salt

[dusky jacinth]

It's better to home cook or go with actual cuisine that have more control and scrutiny over what goes in those meals, versus paying for something "made real quick" and such.

[harsh quartz]

Gluten free ramen is just about the saddest thing I’ve ever fucking heard of

[vapid smelt]

i dislike most gluten free noodles

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, they’re noodles, they’re just gluten

[polar fern]

rice noodles are a staple of some asian quisine

[dusky jacinth]

But... Yeah...
Admittedly, if you put it that way, then yes. Burgers and fries the fast food way is not good for you to have too often.

[vapid smelt]

and low income people

[harsh quartz]

Love the joke John pinette made, the easiest way to find the gluten free section at the grocery store is to find the person with a gun in their mouth, cause bullets are gluten free

[dusky jacinth]

Do it yourself or go to a restaurant that pays attention to what goes in the food before and after it's served instead, when you're trying to avoid going with the unhealthy options... Like fast food.

[polar fern]

i prefer gluten free stuff, it has a richer taste & more moist.

[vapid smelt]

just look for the green signs that read organic

[harsh quartz]

The ones that don’t mean anything?

[graceful mortar]

gemini has been trying to help me with my conundrum.
other than what is posted all it really said was 25% more battery capacity, and better cooling for the m4 max chips.
apple users, did going to the m4 max chip make sense for you?

[dusky jacinth]

Well sure, but like... I do prefer it in moderation and all?
There are times where I question why need to use so much all the time.
Like really, having an excess of a good thing can be a bad thing. People really need to stop ignoring this moral.

[polar fern]

your first mistake was using a chatbot

[pallid falcon]

I know what you can do instead

[split swift]

throw it into your inventory

[vapid smelt]

wash you?

[polar fern]

HAHAHA

[dusky jacinth]

Ayoo!

[pallid falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-rainworld-five-pebbles-fivepebbles-slugcat-gif-994528064899346243

[polar fern]

my usual one is the jade pearl or the squid ink ramen

[harsh quartz]

Sounds expensive

[polar fern]

nah

[harsh quartz]

Sounds more expensive than top ramen

[polar fern]

hmm i dunno

nah its pretty cheap

[harsh quartz]

Top ramen is 8$ for 24 packs

[graceful mortar]

i made a post here https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1473571038528016518 and have been asking, but got zero feedback

2 days ago a project that should have taken 3 hours kept me up 9, and i got 45 minutes of sleep before another 16 hr day ... teh vast majority of that was waiting 8 minutes at a time for tasks to complete.

the battery life is 2-3 hours because we run it hard near 40W. hoping the larger battery can take me doen to charging teh laptop twice a day from my current 3 times a day minimum.

[polar fern]

looks like they don't make it anymore, the forbidden one. sadge

[harsh quartz]

I literally switch to another server and this is the first image I see

[polar fern]

looks photoshopped, no subaru has a bumper that clean

[obsidian horizon]

l🐖ve

[vapid smelt]

i posted that in the FP chat to a buddy with celiac disease xD

[polar fern]

based on a plate search, it is fake.

[split swift]

ppl can swap their rear plate for a fake one

pretty common

[pallid falcon]

gluten

[polar fern]

some states only have rear plates

[vapid smelt]

utah changed to rear plates only last year

[vapid smelt]

how dare you flash bang us

[mystic tundra]

i’m highly calculated evil

[split swift]

https://tenor.com/view/animatronic-freddy-freddy-fazbear-five-nights-at-freddy's-dance-gif-3092624429270279551

[mystic tundra]

4 more flashbangs

oh yeah i tried asking chatgpt and perplexity about minimum focus on certain 640x512 bolometer modules

recently, they just hallucinate stuff

one time they claim 2m focus, then it’s typically 0.5m, then 70mm?

[split swift]

ok nerd, now talk about fnaf

[mystic tundra]

better not tell me anything you clankers

[mystic tundra]

is that the bite of 87

oh you meant fnf?

⬇️⬆️⬇️➡️⬅️⬆️⬇️➡️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬅️➡️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️

[split swift]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-memes-reaction-mad-creepy-gif-15061886909209109371

[obsidian horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-fnaf-gif-347915695790527261

[mystic tundra]

die die die

[pallid falcon]

Wawawa

[vapid smelt]

could you send me Original price was: $4,963.00?

[pallid falcon]

Anything for you

[vapid smelt]

[mystic tundra]

this one only shoots pebbles

[old yacht]

nah

[vapid smelt]

seen any cute goth girls lately?

[polar fern]

Teamspeak is not free. Sadge

[vapid smelt]

if its under like 25 users it is

[polar fern]

The app is .99 usd

[old yacht]

always

[vapid smelt]

oh yeah the phone app cost money

[polar fern]

I think I may just stick to mastodon & xaohongshu after this nonsense

I’ve been on discord a really long time. It’s had its ups and downs, but I guess it’s time to move on.

Between the age verification creepiness & the us government requesting data on people who speak unfavorably about the government, definitely seeing the writing on the wall

It will join other fallen platforms like America online

If only we didn’t have a bunch of dudebros who think that wiping your butt makes you be sexually attracted to men running these companies.

😔

[vapid smelt]

wiping your butt makes you like men thats why i use a bidet

[frank gulch]

Anyone here got a google store coupon for the pixel 10a release that they don't need?

I'll send you some money in PayPal if you share it with me

[vapid smelt]

REF-91HCNALXJ077PDZAGUOUL6L

[slender briar]

Found this in the 26.4 beta notes. Thought some of ya'll might appreciate

[frank gulch]

That's not what I'm talking about, I need the one specifically for the 10a

That's just a random referral code

[stark idol]

it wasnt end to end encrypted before??

[slender briar]

nope, they finally began supporting rcs features like reactions and increased file sizes

but no encryption

[stark idol]

amazing

[slender briar]

until now that is

[pulsar kiln]

A bidet with no soap is not much better than no bidet. Better, but not much

[elfin jetty]

https://youtu.be/_bP80DEAbuo

[vapid smelt]

fake news

[elfin jetty]

Calm down trump lmao

[vapid smelt]

they talk shit about my small swollen hands and speak lies about our great amazing all American data centers

[elfin jetty]

your yuuuuge hands

[stark idol]

?si

[elfin jetty]

Si

[stark idol]

source identifier

[elfin jetty]

Yeah yeah I know

[stark idol]

check out the web plugin
cleanurls
itll do it for yt and all other sites as well

automatically

[elfin jetty]

I know all these things.

Im on mobile

I have all that crap on my pc

[stark idol]

ah

ios?

[elfin jetty]

No android

[stark idol]

ok

[mint sandal]

How impressive is being a tier 1 supplier

[uneven ravine]

bro i bild a cardbord pc

[modest gale]

This entire videos sounds more of a advocacy document than a scientific one

[elfin jetty]

Ya might just wanna watch the whole thing then

[modest gale]

Already have, I have alot of questions to do with his methods

[elfin jetty]

Like

[vapid smelt]

funny how he uploaded the video to company that uses huge data centers

[vapid smelt]

i did a real pc

[gentle slate]

I did an imaginary pc as components are too expensive.

[lime night]

Guys, i did a small project, am I allowed to showcase it here?

[hollow shadow]

hello.

[fossil frost]

#rules effectively say "look at cool thing i did" is ok... but "look at cool thing that makes me money or gets me views or subscribers" is not ok

[lime night]

Ok, it doesn't make me money. Sooo, i guess I can showcase it here.

[knotty lodge]

Man I hate going out for lunch and the salads warm

Gross!

Should be cool or room temp atleast

[fossil frost]

erm.. really? posting random exes for people, and posting soruce code you dont understand? probably best not doing that

<@&750150305383186585> probably not malicious, but, may be malicious

[obsidian horizon]

"sir, i would like my salad burning hot"

[obsidian horizon]

only way to tell is to check

[fossil frost]

thats what im doing right now 😄

[obsidian horizon]

whos gonna be the sacrifice

[obsidian horizon]

oh

[fossil frost]

so... reading the commit history made it super easy.. all the guy did was change a single jpg to a png (which i ran through virustotal), and took 5 commits to do that somehow... they didnt DO anything other than compile a binary from somebody elses source code, who already provide those binaries. unless the binary was modified outside of what is on github.. just checking that now

there we go.. intentionally using GetProcAddress on ProcessPing and NtCreateWaitCompletionPacket, typically what is used in stealth malware.. <@&750150305383186585> gonna update my previous ping to "it probably IS malware" now.. also gonna report this to github 🙂

[knotty lodge]

"nope sorry, I refuse to serve you that, would you like mash or chips instead?"

[hasty canyon]

heelo

[lime night]

I don't think it's malicious (op of deleted msg, btw)

[strange elk]

You don't think

So there's a chance it could be malicious and you don't know

[strange elk]

Lmaoooo

[fossil frost]

There are several indicators of malware when I run it though virustotal

[strange elk]

I'm extremely wary anytime someone mentions a "project they made" these days. Considering a developer I previously tested a modpack for got their account hijacked by someone who ended up hosting their malware site on my amazon account, literally on my dime

[lime night]

Oh, sorry, it was vibe-coded, can you share the results, btw aa a dm to me?

[strange elk]

Vibecoding being a thing now also ain't gonna help that case

[lime night]

Bruh

[strange elk]

Bruh what lol

Typed that out before I read your message, you saying that didnt change what I was saying

[fossil frost]

Don't mess with things you dont understand.

I've reported it to GitHub, discord and the mods of this server

[lime night]

Look man, i'm just a dumb teen, who thought "Hmm, can I run picoclaw on this?"

If i'm not mistaken, Picoclaw itself is vibecoded.

Sorry 🫠😭

[fossil frost]

That's the usual excuse that comes from malware pushers that get caught

[elfin jetty]

[lime night]

Oh

It's my mistake for telling you guys to trust something I never truly understand

[fossil frost]

If you are genuinely trying to learn software development. Don't touch AI tools at all for the first year. Learn the fundamentals yourself first. Learn how to do it on your own, learn how to understand the code that the tools produce. Learn how to debug the issues. Otherwise you are just blindly vomiting out slop that nobody wants to touch

[strange elk]

"AI, make my code not insecure"

[mortal nexus]

Hi there

[thick obsidian]

oooh AI slop me up please 🙏

anyways, when programming with AI I would at least recommend fully understanding the code, especially before releasing it for the public and asking people to check your app out. If it was local, it's only your risk.

[dusky jacinth]

And every time you use it, follow Linus Torvald's example and ONLY use it for toy/tiny projects that are NOT going to be for any critical applications.

[strange elk]

Gives my music app an rce vuln but turns off network permission

Ez

[elfin jetty]

[supple pawn]

I would be weary of using AI to code in general. It can save you time creating small parts of your code, maybe. However I would honestly only use it for small parts of the code rather than the whole thing and I would definitely clean it up yourself before adding it to your project.

[graceful mortar]

this is what Gemni suggested based on my workflow, and value per $ upgrades on ssd and RAM due to the DRAM prices that will continue to rise over the next 5 years.
currently have a m4 pro 12C and it lacks performance and the battery last 2-3 hours max when doing work.
is Gemeni missing anything here?

this is what i currently see for reference

[calm swan]

just wait for the new mac

march 5th is the announcement date

[graceful mortar]

worried the Ram upgrades will go from $800 to $2000 for teh same capacity, currently $800 to add 64 GB, same as on windows

[oak pier]

doubt it will increase in the short term

apple has contracts for ram years in the future

[graceful mortar]

why wouldnt it tho? its $800 same as at launch, back then 64 gb on windows was $100, now its $800 on windows. seams like bad business to not at least 3X what you currently charge when the only other alternative has 6X their price.

[sturdy dune]

samsung galaxy had to renegotiate with samsung memory because le ram shortage

[tranquil heron]

Another day in hospital IT

[calm swan]

64gb on pcs was never $100

[sturdy dune]

i added 64gb ddr4 for 150$ back in october

[graceful mortar]

and wouldn't everyone just buy mac and force MacBooks entire yearly capacity to sell out in a matter of weeks? like they do with GPU's? then your only option to get one is resellers?

i NEVER though upgrading from 64GB to 128GB on apple would be justifiable ... is is at cost parity right now 👀 even more so when you consider the performacne fo teh ram.

feels liek teh time to buy is now before the march price hikes for teh macbook pro line no?

as long as it will actually let me spend less time waiting on tasks to complete,

maybe i should order now? to lock in the good price?
can always resell at good profit later if needed.

[sturdy dune]

assuming that they do change their prices.

[graceful mortar]

They will, "based on the current memory market we were forced to increase our prices like others however you will see that we are extremely competitive for running AI models vs the competition"

And boom stock price goes goes up.

They just need an excuse to tell consumers to pacify them.

• See Samsung gently hinting that the next ultra will cost double its current $1600 price...

[sturdy dune]

if its 3k for an ultra the world is doomed

[graceful mortar]

I like to believe they will throw consumers and insane value bone when it comes to MacBook pros and completely wipe the floor with windows... But ... They have shareholders they need to appease

[sturdy dune]

12gb memory btw

[gilded quest]

Huh

No no, stop.
Go back and explain this comment

[graceful mortar]

16GB for my model.

[sturdy dune]

still

[graceful mortar]

That memory cost to OEM is 4x what it was in October?

[sturdy dune]

give me some kind of source or tabloid or something because 3k for an ultra cant be real at all

[graceful mortar]

Umm the fold is $2k and isn't anywhere near flagship specs, sure lower volume . But so was the 25U vs previous years .

[gilded quest]

next ultra
Are you claiming the S26 Ultra will be $3200?

[sturdy dune]

s26 u is starting at 1300

[graceful mortar]

Assuming you still get the 1TB model, yeah.

[sturdy dune]

you are smoking crack

[graceful mortar]

They will likely limit to 512GB at around $2,000 then claim the price only went up $400

[graceful mortar]

They said the same thing when I warned in December that memory would 4X ... It has

[sturdy dune]

i could see them setting the 1tb model at 2000

[graceful mortar]

That doesn't even cover the increase in memory cost, much less the material cost

[gilded quest]

I'll take whatever you're smoking

[sturdy dune]

it doesnt add 1500$ to the cost of the phone

[mint sandal]

Man hopefully tomorrow goes smooth

[gilded quest]

Also the fucking fold costs more because it has a stupid gimmick. The price is nothing to do with the ram and storage

[sturdy dune]

and its low volume ^

[gilded quest]

Yeah he has a brain tumor. I forgot we're supposed to be nice to him

[sturdy dune]

if folds were more popular it would probably be closer to ultra prices

[mint sandal]

Yeah something about folding phones gives me a 2000s vibe

[gilded quest]

It's why Motorola called their the Razr

[mint sandal]

Phones were so ass back then

[gilded quest]

I mean, compared to now? Sure

[fossil frost]

It's best used as a bridge tool. If you can't think of the search terms, so you can't go and do the proper research, you speak to the LLM of your choice and explain to it what you are trying to do, then based on what it tells you, you then go away and do real research, real reading, and actively understand what it is you are trying to do.

That, and, when you have built a method or a class, and have written good tests for it, you can ask copilot "what bugs can you see that I haven't spotted" or "are there any obvious optimisations". And you can see how it changes what you wrote, step through it, and understand what it changed.

But blindly spitting out prompts to an LLM without understanding what it is doing, is always gonna end up p badly

[mint sandal]

Nokia needs to come back with another brick 🤣

[gilded quest]

The blackberry bold and Razr were state of the art in their respective times lmao

[mint sandal]

Fr fr thats why I love what google is doing with deepmind and aletheia

If im not mistaken major update later this year will have deepmind functioning on a system 4 type architecture

[graceful mortar]

That's would be $400, they said $2k it's currently $1600

Also don't forget interest rates were lowered so that means the

Buying ability of every US dollar is reduced so you need to also factor that in when you're looking at future cost expectations

[graceful mortar]

And blackberry had native .AVI support when nobody else did

Remember anytime there is a large Market place disrupter that justifies a price increase ... they not only increase it the actual price increase... they add 20 to 30% for additional profit because that's what's required. By law being a publicly traded company you must obtain the maximum value available for your shareholders

See Nvidia 40 and 50 series prices versus 30 series.

[fossil frost]

almost everything supported AVI, but not the codecs that were inside it, specifically, nobody else wanted to pay for the mpeg4-2 codec licence (divx)

[graceful mortar]

Anywho, The original question was will that configuration that Gemini recommended outperform my current setup that does not have the performance necessary to be useful in the manner required?

[fossil frost]

3GP/h263 were cheaper. so many went with that, and they also embedded their own metadata, in an effort to make it so only their own devices played their own videos.. and then quick sharing with bluetooth came along, and then they all quickly stopped that

im glad that everyone settled on h264 and then h265. and are slowly moving to av1, and its just universally accepted to use those codecs now

[vapid nymph]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cute-hi-oh-l0FF56cexcW2JAXCJj

[graceful mortar]

My basic understanding is between pro and Max is that the CPU cores are not any "better" performance Wise when it comes to CPU limited tasks.
But they shine where memory bandwidth is the restriction,

unfortunately my workflow also uses more RAM than I have available. So it's hard to gauge if the CPU is limited by capacity or simply just waiting on RAM

[graceful mortar]

265 10-bit is my personal fav

So is this good based on my what I currently experience?

[fossil frost]

i missed the early messages.. what IS the workflow?

[graceful mortar]

#public-chat message

[graceful mortar]

And #public-chat message

[fossil frost]

does it need to be a laptop formfactor?

[fossil frost]

is this a machine that is used for work, and earns you money?

[gilded quest]

Ya know

Samsung could leverage its own manufacturing and not increase prices for ram/storage in their smartphones and undercut everyone else to try and gain more market share

They definitely won't do that, but they could

[fossil frost]

there is a spreadsheet at samsung somewhere that puts the cost vs profit for increasing manufacturing, and the cost vs profit of just raising prices and doing nothing... samsung chose whichever gives them the bigger number in the "profit" column

[mint sandal]

Oh in terms of manufacturing as a supplier is tier 1 the best there is

[fossil frost]

it depends.. samsung the manufacturer, doesnt sell directly to customers.. they sell to samsung the retailer, and samsung the manufacturer cant give a discount to samsung the retailer, more so than they would give to any other bulk buyer. and samsung the buyer would have to pay for shipping and storage costs, the same as nvidia would if nvidia was buying that ram.. even though it wont be getting shipped anywhere, and will still be getting stored in the same warehouse, in the same space.. so samsung have to pay samsung, to do nothing.. and they have to pay people to manage all that doing of nothing... meaning samsung as a manufacturer, could end up being more expensive because of these anti-competition rules

anti-competition laws are great, and need to be there.. but in situations such as this, they create red tape for the sake of creating red tape, artificially keeping prices higher than they need to be.. its a poor side effect of good intentions

[lime night]

Thanks for the advice, man, after you said, i virustotal-ed my .exe, and it's fine?

[fossil frost]

no, virus total came up with "its not a known piece of existing malware". if you look at the sandbox results, and understand what is in the sandbox results.. and the full report... several things that the exe does, are red flags for malware.. each one on their own is usually "its fine", but several together, usually indicates something dodgy is going on

its also pinging discord webhooks, which is usually a dead give-away

[lime night]

@fossil frost Bro, it's supposed to kinda do that, that's the point, Because, Picoclaw (i just ported to windows-x86 with vibe coding, as a fun project) is supposed to be replacing Opnclaw / Moltbot

[fossil frost]

it also accesses a bunch of windows internals that it shouldnt be touching, its deliberately obsfucated to avoid detection

[lime night]

Ohhh, i see.

Man, how are you so good at this? You deal with cybersecurity or what? Cuz damnn

My guess is that you're really experienced

[fossil frost]

ive been a software developer for over 20 years, ive been an internet user for nearly 30 years, ive just learned how this stuff works over time

[lime night]

https://giphy.com/gifs/theoffice-nbc-the-office-tv-D8xNev92dfqdG9FPx4

Hats off to you sir!

[wispy holly]

@fossil frost what is the best way to learn the python language

[fossil frost]

do what i told my 14yo son to do.. come up with a stupid, and seemingly easy project.. and try to build it.. try to avoid AI tools when starting, and just look stuff up with "old fashioned" google searches. watch youtube videos.. the most important thing is to just try and understand what it is you are writing, rather than blindly C+P stuff without understanding it

[wispy holly]

I really appreciate @fossil frost This will really help a lot

[fossil frost]

easy starter projects that i gave to my son are: a basic random dice.. a number guessing game... and a rock-paper-scissors game (all text based). then move on to an intermediate project like a text based adventure game (look up text based mud)

if you can work your way through those projects.. writing anything more complex than that, is just layering the stuff you already know... more and more layers

i spend every day layering more and more of the same basic stuff on top of each other, which becomes something complex

[wispy holly]

I want to become a cybersecurity analyst

[fossil frost]

thats more about understanding behaviour rather than code.. but it is still important that you can write code of some sort, will help with your workflow

[wispy holly]

Ok thanks a lot this is a very great insight you have given to me but do you have any tip on how to be a good cybersecurity analyst

[fossil frost]

lowleveltv on youtube explains how exploits work as each new major exploit is found.. https://www.youtube.com/@LowLevelTV easy to follow videos.. he also does some coding videos too, and, he also has advice on where to start in cycbersec

there are people who are more knowledgeable and, better at cybersec.. but he makes it very easy to understand and to follow

[graceful mortar]

Ehh no, but for instance.

2 days ago I had to finish a project for the group, should she. Taken around 3-ish hours ... Took me 9. Most of that was waiting on the system.

The "poor" battery life is expected, running 40+W continuously will do that.
Going to the 16 inch just gives more capacity. It should also charge at 1C just like the 14. Hoping to go down to 2 completely charges per day vs the 3 I currently do.

Now why not just windows that takes literally 1/4 the time? Because when not doing something intensive I expect long batterylife.

New Intel MAY be the play, but once you add a dgpu SKU. I suspect price will be similar, without strong resale value Mac has due to apple long term support strategy

[fossil frost]

school project?

[lime night]

Hey @fossil frost, can we be friends man?

[wispy holly]

Ok @fossil frost I have learnt a lot under cybersecurity but i want to learn more and stand out just like when you said your adding more layers to what you have learnt

[graceful mortar]

Nope, that would be against shareholder interest , thus illegal. Also don't forget US vs Sony on the rechargeable batteries.

[fossil frost]

steve mold, well known science youtuber... gets a call and realises its an LLM with text to voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJVSDjRXVoo

[sturdy dune]

Ford v. Dodge brothers moment

[lime night]

OK btw, let's say a vibe coded application exist, how does one pentest it properly, and finds out it's vulnerabilities?

[fossil frost]

1. dont download it, because you cant trust it. 2. do something else

unless you are a professional.. then 1. download it in a well isolated sandbox.. and use your years of knowledge on it

[lime night]

Pretty good vid, thanks for sharing

@fossil frost - Can we be friends, man?

[fossil frost]

i only accept friend requests from people i know IRL

because of historical reasons that have burned me

[lime night]

Ok, fair thing.

[graceful mortar]

This one was. 4k 60FPS video. Editing audio in Audiacity.
Obviously with apple focus being on device AI that's a factor when choosing configurations as well.
Being a windows user I 'feel' like I just need more "oomph".

My concern is, being already on a pro chip, seeing that 14C pro vs Max is identical in CPU tasks...

Will the 16C max be enough of an improvement over my current 12C?

Gemini said that being "memory pressure 2" is the biggest issue right now and that the CPU is waiting on the memory.

And that the memory bandwidth should help in the more expected real world tasks.

Here is the chart it just gave me

[graceful mortar]

it seems there aren't any like real world reviews on the max chips, they mainly focus on synthetics (rightfully so) , less on increased productivity it allows.
unless you are JUST exclusively doing video editing, then the extra encode/ decode matters, tho many say that if that is the bottleneck for your workflow, get a Mac Studio M3 Ultra

[restive lion]

Oh jeez Elijah's looking to get roasted today

[lunar coyote]

anyone else notice they keep reposting the Elijah Iphone video with different titles?

[graceful mortar]

but ya thats why i figured id ask real users
as it LOOKED like this config i first bought was MASSIVE overkill and that the M5 would have been better, thank god i didn't do that 💀
1/2 the cores would have had me crying.

[lunar coyote]

ive actually noticed this with a few other videos too

[restive lion]

Are they reposting it or just changing the title

Because changing the title is standard YouTube practice

[restive lion]

I jumped from a 2019 intel to an M5

Literal night and day difference

Although I miss my Touch Bar

[strange elk]

Title change happens a lot at LTT, beyond that they may have an A B title like the thumbnails

[lunar coyote]

both.

[lunar coyote]

i understand different titles but why is it showing as a new video

[strange elk]

Its older than 1h?

Ive never seen linus segue away from a segue to a sponsor before i don't think

[pliant karma]

lol my 2019 living on with a dent as its scar of its past life

[lunar coyote]

https://youtu.be/37xnWApYqqE?si=lDw20rmBpSbUpAyu

[graceful mortar]

ahh yeah im on a M4 Pro 12C 24GB, not enough cores, or RAM

[strange elk]

Gotta say I do miss iOS. Not enough to leave android though

[fossil frost]

Tbh, my main concern would be, is it worth 5+grand to speed up a couple more school projects

[pallid falcon]

Wym

[restive lion]

my school just dropped a couple hundred grand on replacing all of the computers in our studio building with mac studio m4 pro max chips. INSANELY overkill, but i can edit 4k raw NO PROBLEM now

making proxies for 500gb of 4k footage took like 15 mins or something ludicrous

[spiral zodiac]

Am I unc status then? Account on steam since July 2004 lol.

[restive lion]

yeah thats unc status

[spiral zodiac]

Probably in the first 100k to create an account

Hm...ok probably not. Id say first 150-200k

[lyric sun]

Because of the new Discord rollouts, here's a question:

Is this an 18yrs+ server?

[pallid falcon]

How's that "unc" lol

[old yacht]

lol I knew it was gonna happen

[lunar coyote]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sexy-look-madagascar-elhmwUMsAUbScKLLzl

[lyric sun]

The GIF and the Bluey PFP is an odd/hilarious combo bro! 😆

[lunar coyote]

just keeping it casual lol

[graceful mortar]

attached is a manufactured, for privacy reasons, but typical desktop layout for me.
I run native res to try and get as much space as possible (kinda why a 16 has been debated, tho i love the 14's "powerhouse in a micropakage" vibe, tho its MUCH heavier than i expected 😅)
Valid point,
here was the thinking, lost time due to needing to charge it 3 times a day.
that project should have taken 3 hours MAX, took 9 ... which ment 2 other assignments didn't get done AND i missed all my classes the next day.
I could be completely wrong, thats why i thought i would ask.

my other concern was Ram, and i was told 24GB should be enough for mac OS, it isn't, no where close to enough.
because ram is 6X what it was in October, and apple still charges "only" 💀 $800 to go from 64 to 128, which is the same as a laptop 64Gb kit rn (apples memory being of a higher performance caliber).

so i know i am going to have to accept defeat and order a new one regardless, its more about making sure i get enough for what i need this time.

at least with apple this will resell for only $400 under its orignal price.

[fierce cedar]

my screw driver doesn't close all the way anymore

it probably ain't supposed to look like this when open either

[graceful mortar]

I do know it is also simply possible Apple doesn't offer the performance level I desire. But they get cross shopped so often. I doubt that

[fierce cedar]

ah, the whole thing pulled out

[rustic rivet]

I have last second decided to go to the whale lan

Just booked my ticket and hotel room lol

I am flying standby though so hopefully I actually get a seat.

[pliant karma]

How hard are you pulling on it? I've abused mines but it's not gotten to that point yet

[small oasis]

Depends on the end goal, just like anything else. You want the right tool for the job. Although, I will say that is an annoying new trend in electronics that has gained traction over the past 5 years, or so. Companies are now manufacturing specialty items. Sony, for example, makes a couple of $4000 cameras - one excels for photos while the other is more video centric. Want the best for both? That's $8000. Companies are laughing all the way to the bank.

[pliant karma]

Although mines like to freespin now

[fossil frost]

does it NEED to be rendered in 4k for every attempt? can your work be submitted at 1080? yes its not AS good looking, but 1080 would still be plenty to get marked if 1080 is a possibility.

how old is the current one?

can you return the current one if it isnt that old? or at least PX it?

will it be useful beyond the obvious "i have a laptop" after school?

would it be cheaper/more efficient to keep the current one, and build a desktop formfactor "work server"? do all the low res 720p test runs on the laptop, then send the files to the server to do the full 4k renders

i.e. a mac studio m4 max with 128gb ram, costs a grand less than the same spec MBP

[fossil frost]

the studio will perform better for the same spec too, better cooling

[graceful mortar]

• 4k
• just before black friday,
• I mean, i wont be done with my masters until 2032-ish so maybe, basically up to Apple at that point lol.

[fossil frost]

ah, so its NEEDED for more than the next 2-3 years?

[graceful mortar]

as far as building a PC
not when 64GB of memory is $600 🙁 also at home i have 5g internet, so its unreliable. if you mean like just output at liow res, then do high res when i get home, sure ... but have you seen 5080 prices? i would say 5070 TI, but they are vaporware now...

just did a quick 3 minute part picker

[graceful mortar]

oh 100%

[sacred crow]

rendering in 4k sounds nightmarish

[graceful mortar]

and with inflation, raw material costs, and the DRAM prices that continue to rise for at least teh next 18 months and stay elevated at those levels at least 60 months.

i dont think upgrading reguarlly will be in ANYONES interest for any product that uses RAM (washer, stoves, fridges, computers, phones, TV's). I'm really gonna test "7 years OS support" from samsung mobile.

[graceful mortar]

not really, i just need more power. hell i can do it on my S25U, but i need more effects than galaxy studio offers

[sacred crow]

i see

[graceful mortar]

start talking 4:4:4 8k 60FPS .... yeah now you are in trouble and shoudl consider server heardware

[sacred crow]

what even is 8k? double 4k?

[graceful mortar]

wayy ycriazer than that

[graceful mortar]

this is an option. but i'm literally out of the house 14-16 hrs a day so IDK if investing in a home machine i cant remote into (maybe apple can??)
(yay modern student life... AI infection means everything is on site.. and tests are designed to make you struggle to weed out cheaters.....)

[restive lion]

You can absolutely remote into these

[graceful mortar]

ok, i know on windows you cant because teh internet is 5g and data managed.

[restive lion]

Easiest with another Mac ofc but there's lots of ways

[graceful mortar]

will getting data back be an issue with teh unstable upload speeds no? like when moving files back and forth

[restive lion]

I mean it won't be fast

But what can you do about that

[graceful mortar]

jeeze that was gibberish lol

[restive lion]

If you need to pop in to do some quick work without transferring things screen sharing is usually fine

[graceful mortar]

liuterally nothing, even syncing google driev i get errors because of how inconsistant it is

[restive lion]

Oh

Okay uh that's really bad lol

[sacred crow]

is it worth cloning my windows 7 hdd from one disk to another to put into my pc?

i’ll upgrade later

[graceful mortar]

like i LITERALLY could not geforece now... because sometimes it played fine like my first 3 games, the rest it was crazy bad. because it woudl go from 20Mbps to 2Mbps and ping cycle over 1000 at times.

[winged spire]

Starship Header tank washed up on shore

Madagascar

[sacred crow]

real?

[winged spire]

Yes?

[sacred crow]

dang that’s cool

what even is the aim of spacex

they haven’t really done anything have they

[summer folio]

Free Space Ship!!1

[winged spire]

They account for 90% of all mass ever brought to space

[graceful mortar]

NASA, but for profit

[sacred crow]

no wonder we have a ring of shit around the earth

[winged spire]

We don’t

[sacred crow]

we do

there is a ring of trash floating around earth

[graceful mortar]

it is 😭

shopping macs is hard when you are used to windows so dont know how ot interpreat teh behaviors you are experiencing, and what is necessary to solve them

like you see this, you know its fine because 5GB is just chilling, but then you get "memory pressure 2" wich according to Gemeni is teh equilivant of page file hits.

then you get stuck because, is the CPU at 100% all core because its waiting on the data from the page file? or is it actually doing the maximum work it can per clock?

[rustic rivet]

Bruh how’d yall break them? Lol. I’ve had mine since the retro edition came out

I use mine on my car and electronics lol

[pliant karma]

abuse and worn in completely I've had mines since the first batch of the OG ones.

[rustic rivet]

I’m so hype for the whale lan

[restive lion]

macos handles paging way better than windows

[rustic rivet]

[graceful mortar]

slowed to a crawl and took forever to get anything done

[restive lion]

hmm, ive never had an issue with it

and ive done some stupid shit on my macs

[graceful mortar]

let me see if i can replicate, this is all i have from that session, normally i am CPU likmited not Ram

[restive lion]

i did run out of ram once

but it also handled that better than windows (exploding)

[graceful mortar]

i /think/ this is from that session

like i was working the system but i also wasn't WORKING the system if you know what i mean

[restive lion]

idk i regularly put mine through some bullshit and it handles it fine. not sure what kinda workload youre putting on it though

at one point i had a whole pro tools session open along with premier and also mightve had media composer open?

[graceful mortar]

it just took crazy time, i though iut was teh workload, did back to back with intel laptop and it took 2 minutes .... mac took 17 minutes ....

[restive lion]

mightve had a memory leak somewhere

restart usually fixes that

[graceful mortar]

i did an actual side by side when i did the test vs intel. it was just a snapshot of what is did probably 10-12 times 4 days ago.
now granted the intel was using over double the power... so not actually looking for as fast as that, but i def need faster than this.

[tranquil furnace]

Can someone help me out with my keyboard problem. I just bought a wooting 80he and the problems I have now is the same one that happened to my last one (Apex Pro)

[frigid frost]

Am I the only one where the link from the instagram story with asus doesnt work?

[strange elk]

There's hardly anything macos handles worse tbh far as i can tell. At least as far as the things that are made for it/have in common with other OSes go

Maybe some of the UX, I don't have personal experience with it tbf

[solemn vessel]

Yo guys does anyone know why my pc is on but if i leave it afk for a lil bit it just disconnects everything like it shows no display doesn’t register any inputs from mouse or kb but my pc is still on and the only way i can fix this is if i do a hard restart like turn off the psu and boot up my pc again. Can smn help me

[graceful mortar]

like the known windows sleep bug? where it wont come back on?

[solemn vessel]

Yeah but i have turned off the sleep mode from windows entirely

Also idk if its related buy when my screen turned off i went to look at my pc and the red flash bios light was blinking

[polar fern]

So what’s everyone’s plans to avoid your discord usage & personal info/data being used by baby eating pdf goose steppers? I’m on mastodon & xaohongshu. I’m not going to touch bluesky because it’s run by basically the same people.

[fossil frost]

https://tenor.com/view/nobody-cares-nobody-cares-spongebob-imagination-gif-8176136

[polar fern]

I think my current plan is just to delete my discord account. They’re counting on people having FOMO and not caring enough to leave.

[dusky jacinth]

Ngl, I might try starting a Stoat backup server for my old (and mostly dead) community server.

[fossil frost]

just delete it.. stop talking about it.. stop attention seeking about it.. just do it

[polar fern]

This is a serious topic that needs discussing, especially amongst people like myself who have been using discord for an extremely long time. What are you in league with them? Do you agree with their tactics? May as well be one of the ones that shows where the yellow stars are hiding.

I don’t think you grasp the situation that is currently unfolding, which is why you will stay blocked

Damn my sense of curiosity

[fossil frost]

the thing is, you have to choose between punched really hard in the face with a left hand.. or.. behind punched really hard in the face with a right hand... because.. the only viable alternatives to discord, are ran by the same type of people, because there are a very limited number of companies capable of funding something on the scale of discord. there are plenty of systems that will do something similar to discord, but not at the scale discord does it, or not with the ease of use that discord has... so yes... it is a topic that needs discussing.. but this isnt an airport... there is no need to announce your departure, there is no need to have people wave you off at the gate... if you dont like discord, dont use it, dont continue to use it and pretend that you are against it... leave.. or shut up

[silver sun]

758

[strange elk]

The alternatives can be self hosted

[fossil frost]

which makes them not viable because of the reasons people use discord.. its scale and ease of use

self-hosting a live platform with 32k+ online users and 175k+ total users. its not straight forward to do with minimal latency. especially with voice calls as part of it.. and to do that where the server is the intermediary, to avoid p2p, to avoid the security issues with p2p.. its not cheap or easy

[fossil frost]

what you fail to grasp is.. anything.. anything at all. you make up your narrow mind on a topic, and then thats it, everyone else is wrong, no matter what they say, no matter how they back it up.. and when you have had enough of being shown to be wrong, you block people and run away, and then continue spouting off shit like you are a fountain of knowledge, yet you understand very little of what you are saying... tbh.. i dont know why the mods allow you to still be here.. you are very clearly a troll and derail the chat and destroy the spirit of why people are here, any time you show up

[polar fern]

I guess I’ll be using the forums a lot more

The worst part about it is that there are lots of communities that have integration through their discord servers which have things like Minecraft server whitelisting and so on

[oak pier]

Apple isn't going to renegotiate it's preexisting contracts to spend more on RAM

[sturdy dune]

not if they dont have to anyway

[oak pier]

In the samsung samsung case, there was no need for long term contracts since it's the same parent company

[oak pier]

The whole point of a fixed price contract is that they don't have to

that is the entire point of buying ram that far into the future

[sturdy dune]

ah this makes sense

thank you for the words of wisdom iroh

[oak pier]

when was the last time apple raised prices?

Apple is consistently expensive, but they almost never raise prices

plus people buying 64gb of ram on a mac, likely aren't comparing to 64gb on windows

[fossil frost]

apple price rises come with new models. so nobody notices them

[strange elk]

Definitely fair. I think for small communities even just to start can switch over fine though. Most people won't but thats just how it is

[silk dune]

hello world

[oak pier]

People buying 64gb of ram on a mac, are doing so because they can benefit from the unified memory structure

or they're doing so because they have more money than sense

[fossil frost]

if you dont need voice, IRC is plenty viable still

[sturdy dune]

5 mac studios make a cool ai cluster

[oak pier]

up to 2.5tb of lpddr5x in that config

[strong ruin]

Has anyone here heard of the company MSI?, they make monitors

[sturdy dune]

lol

they make a bit more than monitors

[strong ruin]

Are they good

[sturdy dune]

depends on what monitor

[oak pier]

brand doesn't determine if something is good or not, the product itself does

judge the brand based on their customer support, judge the product based on the relevant criteria

[strong ruin]

msi mag 27c6x full hd 27" curved va Icd monitor

[oak pier]

never judge the product based on the brand

[sturdy dune]

if its an oled its good. if its lcd / va / ips its case by case

[fossil frost]

search for that phrase on google with "review" after it.. and figure it out

[strong ruin]

I did

[fossil frost]

then you know more than we do

[oak pier]

Cool then you already have your answer

[sturdy dune]

im only up to date on modern oled panels ngl

ive stopped caring about most LCDs

except the new pulsar ones

[oak pier]

LCD/IPS/VA exist, that's about all i really care about

[pallid falcon]

[oak pier]

i hate when IRL tasks don't multithread

like i have a boatload of work, and a bunch of people that can help, but it's genuinely easier to just do it solo

[sturdy dune]

@strong ruin if you have a budget for a monitor, its probably more useful to ask about that than a specific single monitor

oleds start around 400$ in the us, so getting an IPS / VA panel still does make a lot of sense

[strong ruin]

I was looking to buy that monitor, I was just asking if people thought it was good

[oak pier]

you did it in a very confusing manner

[fossil frost]

*was looking for someone else to make the decision for you

[strong ruin]

Sorry

[strong ruin]

No

[sturdy dune]

probavly wont find many people with that exact monitor. however, MSI doesnt make panels. so there are many other companies that make the same exact monitor

[hazy parrot]

this is one way to paraphrase "society"

[sturdy dune]

@strong ruin how much is the msi monitor you are looking at

[strong ruin]

€169

$198

[sturdy dune]

seems kinda shitty for the price ngl

can get a 1440p at the same refresh rate for around that

[strong ruin]

It has the specs i need

[sturdy dune]

what country are you shopping in?

[strong ruin]

Ireland

[sturdy dune]

https://amzn.eu/d/08QmkAt2

i think this clocks to 280 out of the box but i may be wrong. still 240hz

[strong ruin]

I need 250HZ with full hd

[sturdy dune]

full HD means 1080p.

https://amzn.eu/d/0hG2HrIY

1440p 240hz

250hz is not a significant enough gap from 240hz to make any difference

you have a lot more options at 240hz so i would look there. or even jump up higher in refresh rate. 250hz is a weird spot

[strong ruin]

Ok

Thank you

[sturdy dune]

common HZ ranges right now are typically 144, 165-185, 240, 280, 360, 480, 500, 540

[graceful mortar]

they raise them from time to time.

[oak pier]

It's almost always with a new product lineup, not just the same product but more expensive

[graceful mortar]

This isn't normal though
it's the tech equivalent of COVID mixed with Chernobyl.
We’re seeing a 6x jump in months, not years, and realistic relief is 5+ years away.
Demand is surging despite skyrocketing prices...
meanwhile you have ballooning raw material costs.
also they need to "generate" shareholder value before they all jump on the hype train of Nvidia. If you don't make stock holders enough money, If they fail, investors leave, the stock price death-spirals, liquidity vanishes, and they go bankrupt overnight.

[oak pier]

When you don't have to raise prices, you have the option to retain your consumer base at the same price

higher price does not always mean more profit

[graceful mortar]

why not though? i was assured 16GB would be enough since "its like" 64GB was enough on my windows, I went 24GB and it isn't even close to enough.

[oak pier]

When was the last time you played the newest COD on a mac studio

[graceful mortar]

well and they want local LLM, and GPT to not have access to all their medical info, their therapy chats, their intimate thoughts, etc.
since thats how a SHOCKING amount of ppl used to use GPT before they nerfed it.

[oak pier]

also no one in their right mind is actually claiming 16gb on mac is equivalent to 64gb on windows

the one apple engineer that claimed that 8gb on mac was like 16gb on pc got promptly laughed at by the entirety of the tech community

and that wasn't even the actual stance of apple, just some overconfident engineer

[graceful mortar]

it does when your cost stay the same...
windows already about to cost more since you cant just buy a lower ram sku and upgrade its cheaper to pay dell that extra $1k for ram upgrade. oh and u know we are all integrated memory on teh new CPUs

[oak pier]

Higher price also means reduced volume of sales (assuming stock isn't the limiting factor which is isn't for apple)

[graceful mortar]

i was told it would be enough for what i do. lol not even close hence time to sell my 4 month old mac and buy a diff configuration one.

[oak pier]

Then you were told by someone who had absolutely no clue what they were talking about

[graceful mortar]

not when the alternative is higher than your new raised price.

[oak pier]

a windows machine isn't a 1:1 alternative, especially when you're speccing a high ram capacity mac model

[graceful mortar]

yep they actually told me to get an Air 💀💀 i was like nah they overheat .... man my 9 hrs projetc woulr have taken 20+

[oak pier]

the higher the capacity, the more likely it's intended to be used in a workload that benefits from unified memory

[graceful mortar]

wym? before ram prices shot up Apple was the same cost as a comparable windows machine and sometimes even cheaper.

[graceful mortar]

ahh i see what you are talking about

[oak pier]

Depends a LOT on the workload

[graceful mortar]

yep currently getting 128GB RAM from apple is one of teh cheapest ways... since 64GB is now $650+ ....

i mean this was my build list... its a $2500 build .... somehow costs $5k ..... that show mental prices are RN,

[dark mauve]

I just won the lottery.

I traded my dirty Nintendo Switch 1 from literal launch, with no joycons for an Xbox series s.

[restive lion]

well now im going to go download it on the heavily MDM'd school mac studios

ITS fears me

[winged spire]

https://fxtwitter.com/tivent_1/status/2024644724565422419?s=46

isabella🪼🎏 (@tivent_1)

he’s so dripped out… they’re hating on him cause they AINT him!!!

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[wispy frigate]

something keeps using my microphone on windows but i dont know what it is and settings is not showing me it (its only showing me things that i actually know accessed my mic like fl studio or firefox or obs studio)

is there a way to view whats going on here

[wispy frigate]

yeah i checked there already

it shows stuff that i know used my mic but like before i even open those things smth is using my mic

like the moment i start windows

[hazy parrot]

the icon on your taskbar would only point to things here, unless you're using an app for a recording indicator

[wispy frigate]

weird

thank you for the info

[hazy parrot]

if you're paranoid (like the rest of us)

unloads the driver entirely

and just allow it when you actually want to use it

[formal pilot]

can anyone help me with the retroid dual screen touchscreen fix because i cannot figure this out https://github.com/RetroidPocket/Retroid_Dual_Screen_Add-on_Support/blob/main/RDSTouchUpdater_portrait.exe

[obsidian horizon]

not the best chat for that

try either #1027757333117415424 or tech chat 1 or 2

[lethal belfry]

Hello

[echo canyon]

Hey Uh, Is it normal for kali linux to show in windows defender as 100+ viruses or am I cooked chat?

[noble violet]

You may be cooked. I'm not the best with this area of computer technology

So you should ask someone more qualified

[echo canyon]

It all pointed to the ISO file, deleted and ran a scan again, clean but uhhh that was a flipping long ahhh list.

[noble violet]

Where did you get the file

[echo canyon]

offical sorrces, kali is usually used for pen testing, something Im trying to get into for bug bountys.

but given kalis use of a ton of included exploit tools it may of been a fluke?

[noble violet]

Yeah

Windows defender doesn't just look at if it's a virus and it's license verified by Microsoft it also looks at the files behavior to see if it acts like a malicious thing

So that could be it

[echo canyon]

but flukes dont usuaslly make windows defender display 100+ viruses when I had this for awile on my PC already.

[noble violet]

Yeah

I'm stumped, and unqualified

You should go into the tech help chat

[echo canyon]

I just restarted after deleting all the files, clean as a baby. but not sure if that is something to worry about.

Given Kali is used for pen testing it makes sence windows would mark it as malware.

[pallid falcon]

Check drivers

[digital lava]

I'm so sad that optical drives are dying

I love owning my media

but my pioneer drive died last month, its motor specifically, and I don't even think it's possible to replace that

[oak pier]

optical isn’t even the best way to store your own media

HDDs are the easiest way to have redundancy and parity

[digital lava]

I'm not storing

Specifically when it comes to tv shows and movies

[digital lava]

^

[strong totem]

Hello 👋🏽

[modest beacon]

i hope optical drives die faster

[digital lava]

I hope you end up enjoying life one day

[strange elk]

Hackthebox and parrotOS

[modest beacon]

both usb a can optical drives can die and no one will bat an eye

[strange elk]

Nice opinion. Go subscribe to your 15 streaming services and still not find the movie or show you want

[long briar]

type A died and everyone batted an eye

lmfao

[digital lava]

bro's just a troll

trolls are a very sad people

[long briar]

no I know dw not the first time around the block

[digital lava]

I hope bro one day gets happier from things other than trying to rage bait

like genuinely

[long briar]

Idek if it's ragebaiot

[digital lava]

🤷 i guess

[modest beacon]

im not even baiting no point of usb a anymore in the big 26

like please stop calling eveything a "ragebait"

[strange elk]

[digital lava]

I will keep you in my thoughts @modest beacon , best of luck in life to you

[modest beacon]

best of luck to you too

[digital lava]

Aw, thank you

[winged spire]

Ugh

I’m sick as fuck

Just been dying in bed for 2 days now

[long briar]

it's because there's years before 2026, that type A has a point

history doesn't reset every year

[hazy parrot]

get the fever dreams yet?

or is this the kinda sick where its just slightly less than that

thats the worst level of sick

[winged spire]

Wow

[winged spire]

I can’t even get to sleep

<@&750150305383186585>

[hazy parrot]

oh dawg someone has gotta get you some syrup

[winged spire]

I ordered nyqill with overnight delivery and Amazon delayed it

😐

[hazy parrot]

you'll be over it before it even arrives smh

thats a tragedy

[formal pilot]

Check which drivers?

[long fog]

what about screw locked usb a

[lament crystal]

Y'all remember when phones came with a charger brick, cable, headphones and all that stuff? I miss those days

[hazy parrot]

5 watt wall wart, cable that you never strained but still split open exposed wiring, and some pocket buds that you shake vigorously to have the cable long enough to reach your ears.

Yeah. Rose tinted glasses are nice

[lament crystal]

Still better than literally nothing

[hazy parrot]

While I agree in principle, I can't help but feel, because our expectations were lower, it wasn't necessarily better.

[lament crystal]

If you were buying a phone for someone who had never had one before (admittedly more common back then but still not uncommon today), you didn't have to buy anything extra

[hazy parrot]

We would have to pay more if we had that today, assuming the cost wasn't leveraged out of the quality of the phone.

[pallid falcon]

I use rnicrosoft all day

[mystic tundra]

i didn’t see it at first

[versed void]

I think i dont know how to play games every time i play a game I'm having like +%100-%400 more time then them to get there

Even if its linear game i dont get it

Lets take the last of us as example
In 25 hours i've only done 4 hours of content that other people plays at

I dont stay afk at all when i play the game i fully play it without distractions too i dont get how its always the case

[rough socket]

Do EU people have import taxes when buying from the UK ?

[versed void]

UK is in europe

[rough socket]

It's not in the EU though

Nor the schengen space or whatever it was

[green glade]

not in the European Union anymore

[mystic tundra]

yes

[rough socket]

Well I believe it's not in the schegen space ?

[mystic tundra]

import taxes + duties

[rough socket]

Erf

[versed void]

what changed

[rough socket]

Brexit

[versed void]

damn its actually thruth

[mystic tundra]

if you country has 20% VAT then expect around 20% + duties tend to be ~5% + minimum processing fee ~€3-5

[versed void]

didnt know that

[green glade]

today you learned (:

[versed void]

Yeah

[rough socket]

I see thanks, though the website is already showing prices in EUR, so maybe it includes vat

[versed void]

But uk still in europe though

[green glade]

yes

[versed void]

Just not in union

[mystic tundra]

they left

[green glade]

as in continent europe

[mystic tundra]

EU - brexit

[versed void]

Continent

[rough socket]

Where are you from lmao

[green glade]

UK for sure

[versed void]

land of taxes

[rough socket]

Probably yeah

[rough socket]

I believe I live in one of the country with the highest % of overall taxes

But to my country credit it's also one of the country where it's the most "given back" to us so eh

Pretty sure we are the country closest to "cool" commies lmao

France

[versed void]

My country rug pulled on us

[green glade]

pourqoi

[rough socket]

Well we are one of the country with the biggest amount of socialist policies, like 100% free healthcare, guaranteed income even without working, guaranteed retirement wage (or whatever it's called in english) etc etc

Lots and lots of small stuff that is utterly unthinkable in the USA for example

(we do have our own problems but eh)

Anyway, I guess i'll try to find another website than a UK one to buy what I need

(like we CAN'T get fired from a job except if you really explicitely did something super duper bad)

Oh wait apparently if the product is made in UK you won't pay customs fees 😮

[sacred crow]

took 8 hours but it’s done

i cloned my 2009 win7 install to a new healthy disk for longevity

[winged spire]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg3n7j8xyqo?l

[pallid falcon]

I just went on the Highguard website and the motionsickness is too much.

[oak pier]

i hate overly stylized websites that impede their function

[echo sluice]

[merry gull]

lol I love my team
I give them a problem
They ask for expected behaviour
I give them an expected behaviour: "not this"
"Fuck you"

[fossil frost]

The UK is part of Europe, but not the EU.

[mystic tundra]

i know

[hazy parrot]

This is fascinating. I heard buzz about AIs using emdash even when explicitly prompted not to, and have it break some simple code first hand

It's almost like someone replaced all the hyphens for emdashes in a large training data set

And now it can't help itself

[mystic tundra]

none of the llms could tell me what was the thermal resolution of the cam based on the picture quality

they either listed the resolution of the pic itself when i explicitly asked for the thermal resolution or they got it completely wrong

like 256x192, 384x288, 640x512 and they would just choose 256x192 when it was 640x512

one even told me it’s like 16x10

i managed to count 580 by simply trimming 90% of the image and counting the jaggedness then multiplying by 10

yes i know it’s only 90% accuracy but the llms got it wrong even after listing possible resolutions

like 2-40% accuracy

[graceful matrix]

Lsc is linus secret club

[hazy parrot]

funny thing about image inference, if the image has no traceable metadata to online sources, it essentially "barfs" text from its own text to image diffusion data. Im surprised you diddnt blow your token budget right then and there

maybe they refined it a bit more but its still in its infancy

[fossil frost]

"90% accurate" is good or bad, entirely depending on the situation

[pliant sun]

het
does someone use an pulsar mouse?
i have problems with connecting to the app

[errant sun]

KITTY

[gilded quest]

Yes I use one
No I haven't used the app since day 1 when I changed my dpi settings then deleted the app

[pliant sun]

aa yeah i cant even find my mouse in the app

but i configged it online

[fossil frost]

whats the oldest ipad that will still get ipados 26?

nvm.. 8th gen and later

[graceful matrix]

How do I do one that goes inf and crash my pc?

[fossil frost]

meh, github links blocked

[torn forge]

[graceful matrix]

Would it be funny to make a specific brick that crash your game in roblox and everything is dark

[strange elk]

TIL you can resize picture in picture on android 😳

[gilded quest]

You've only just realized this? 😭

[jagged bay]

Hi, I’m new here but been watching LTT for a while. I build odd handheld consoles and repair arcades… I specialize in the Famicombox hotel unit. Anyhow, looking for advice about a video that was made on the FP-60 projector there was mention of a service manual and figured worse that would happen is I get made fun of for asking how one may go about requesting a copy to share so others may fix their projector.

[small bear]

https://youtube.com/shorts/-UapfRYFras?si=mXE8j_i0tswjjnlK

[harsh quartz]

(It’s not android specific)

[strange elk]

Well I dont use iphones so

Irrelevant to me

[strange elk]

Tbf I dont use PiP often

[polar fern]

Sounds like a forums question. 😎

[jagged bay]

Honestly I did not know there was a forum lol 😂

I’ll Check it out thanks l

[harsh quartz]

It’s also relevant on any computer that uses Picture in Picture, or any other OS, it’s a very common thing

[long fog]

I think my computer is a computer?

[graceful mortar]

why does gforce now not work on this connection? just keeps disconnesting and lagging

[viscid elm]

aint that a double negative

[graceful mortar]

talkd to ISP they said tehy only limit Youtube, netflix, prime to 3Mbps

[viscid elm]

WTF

they limit those to 3Mbps

[graceful mortar]

no net neutrality rules with new administration so they allowed to do whatever they want

[graceful mortar]

ya its all video feeds

[viscid elm]

are you using ethernet and your home network is fiber?

[graceful mortar]

ethernet, 5g hoem internet

DSL was double price ($89) for 1.5mbps /786kbps

[viscid elm]

think i found your problem

[vital lintel]

Get starlink bro

[mighty mist]

seaghan whatchu typing

[graceful mortar]

why, its home broadband

[viscid elm]

why do you think most pro gamerinos use ethernet

[graceful mortar]

it is ethernet

geforce now is for casuals taht thing xbox s is good

[viscid elm]

but the internet is not

5g has A LOT more overhead as its well wireless

[graceful mortar]

so i shoudl do the 1.5mbps/786kbps DSL?

[viscid elm]

DSL also sucks

but its a bit better but wow you are getting shafted

its so strange to hear these issues where i live, like 80-90% of people can have fiber installed

[graceful mortar]

okay, its 1.5mbps for $90 per month. this 600mbps 5g is $25 a month, so i though was better than using telephone lines.

[viscid elm]

juse use 5g

use the extra money you save for the ability to rather do what geforece does locally

[graceful mortar]

remove $349, add $2,000 for the gen 3 dish to get reasonable upload speeds in this area.

[graceful mortar]

railroad easement 1,000 ft behind, they dont wanna pay monthly to UP for crossing under

[graceful mortar]

ok

[winged spire]

What

2000$?

Starlink hardware is not 2000$ 😂

[viscid elm]

thought you also got loaned the kit

[winged spire]

It’s 349

Before any deals and whatnot

There are deals like no hardware fee with a 12 month deal and stuff too

[winged spire]

You can go to bestbuy right now and buy a standard kit off the shelf for 349

[graceful mortar]

hmm , idk if i can reach that when the goal post keeps moving. this is a $2,500 build ... some how its $5k rn, probably $6.5k by summer, $8K by next Christmas.... :/ but ill try lol, $60 a month auto draft

[graceful mortar]

Gen 3 dish

[winged spire]

No

[viscid elm]

why do you need 6TB of ssds and those kinda ssds

and a 9850X3D and a AIO and that board

this entire list is funked

[strange elk]

I dont need it on desktop, the video is already a movable box

[viscid elm]

i think the performance geforce now really offers is like i dono zen 3 smn and a 4080 or smn

[graceful mortar]

for holding games, 5g has hard limit at 1

[viscid elm]

why not just buy SSDs later?

[winged spire]

Send me this link

[graceful mortar]

to hold the game library and my laptop has 5TB rn
1.5TB/ month then you get 1000ms pings, packetloss, and 8-10mbps max speed due to " network abuse" for 30 days.

[winged spire]

Oh that’s the performance dish

[harsh quartz]

It’s so nice being able to pin a video over the top of a game

[winged spire]

Yeah literally no reason for you to get the performance dish

[covert cradle]

or just buy a large HDD, given that'll still be faster than downloading still

[graceful mortar]

i built it in 30 seconds, need wnough CPU to keep up with the inevitable 5090 i chose to buy instead lol.

[graceful mortar]

https://satellitephonestore.com/catalog/sale/details/starlink-performance-gen-3

[strange elk]

I dont need a video over my game. I'm playing a game.

[winged spire]

The performance dish is an enterprise offering

[graceful mortar]

yes, needed for this area otherwise 6mbps upload speed in this area

[viscid elm]

i completely forgot you can just move games