public-chat

[full fossil]

still a chance to go to jail

[winged spire]

You have a 0% chance of jail if you don’t get caught

Ez 😎

[full fossil]

yeah let me get right on not getting caught mate xD

[silk island]

bad shitpost

[full fossil]

would an older lg v60 or something be better?

[winged spire]

I’ll make sure to write “Evelyn doesn’t like my jokes” for next time lol

[full fossil]

I mean idrk any better phones that price range

[winged spire]

Can’t go wrong with an older iPhone

[full fossil]

well they could get a refurbished s21

[full fossil]

I suppose but they may want android

[winged spire]

Is the 21 before they switched to the flat screens?

[full fossil]

idk

[winged spire]

You couldn’t pay me to buy a Samsung with that curved screen

One of the dumbest things any phone manufacturer has ever done

It has literally no benefit and cracks from looking at it

[full fossil]

it has a flat screen

[devout pasture]

I thought mac mouse was smooth so i turned on mouse acceleration on windows and its absolutely bs

[silk island]

no because lg phones literally have zero support

[winged spire]

My first phone was an LG something

[full fossil]

true, he said amazon refurbished, they have an s21 ultra on there for 239

[full fossil]

nice

[silk island]

S21 ultra is also out of support iirc

[full fossil]

I plan to get a cheap one from the Q line to make a portable emulator

[full fossil]

really?

[silk island]

Oh, no, android 15 will be its last update

[rough creek]

I think I am never buying Android devices without unlockable bootloaders ever again. I still have an old S10 as a backup phone but I can't upgrade the OS

[full fossil]

that still sucks tho

[full fossil]

have you tried lineage os?

[silk island]

unlockable bootloaders don’t mean jack if there’s no support by third-party rom developers

[full fossil]

or does it not support it

[full fossil]

true

[rough creek]

I would if I could unlock the bootloader so I can install it

[full fossil]

gotcha,

[full fossil]

can you not install twrp or use a youtube tutorial?

well I guess it depends on the chipset

[rough creek]

can't install twrp because my bootloader version won't let me

[full fossil]

weird

[crude vortex]

@rough creek is that kirito in ur pfp?

[trim blade]

The rgb from my 5 v 3 pin is all flickering

[full fossil]

you probably need root access, have you tried a video on that using magikip

or whatever its called

[silk island]

lineage os is criticized by loads of people for not adding anything worthwhile on top of stock android

[crude vortex]

could be power supply,insufficient power

[full fossil]

gotcha, never knew

[solar galleon]

Unless you are building a museum of flagships of any major phone OEM, old flagships are not necessarily the way to go for--as Chris Pirillo coined the Nexus 4 during the launch year--a "go-to Android device".

[silk island]

honestly I just don’t like Android very much at all

I like iOS. It’s simple, it works, and it’s super damn snappy

[solar galleon]

Old flagships can be used as secondary/dedicated devices like an MP3 player, camera, or voice recorder, but I'd only recommend that if you can pay a certain low price for it, and not overspend.

[rough creek]

if I had not installed the last few updates from LG my bootloader would have a bug that could be exploited to unlock the bootloader, but I installed those which updated the bootloader to a version that patches the hole and as of last time I checked there was no new way to exploit a bootloader bug > install twrp > able to install 3rd party OS

[crude vortex]

yeah but upgrading every year is a shitty move

[solar galleon]

Was Cyanogenmod any better or not in comparison?

[silk island]

lineageos is cyanogenmod just under a diff name lol

[crude vortex]

im mentioning this cause most of the ios users do that (i got an ip 12)

[solar galleon]

Oh, it's been years since I heard much about them tbh

[silk island]

I upgrade give or take every two years.

I went from the 13pm to the 15pm this past April.

[rough creek]

it's at least better than being stuck on an old OS version because the vendor (Samsung) stopped updating the device

[silk island]

and the 13 pro max was released in 2021 so I actually think I had that phone for almost three years

[crude vortex]

that makes sense

[silver zealot]

🤑

[silk island]

what was the point of sending this emoji?

[rough creek]

I still use it as my main phone. I was going to upgrade to the 16 but Apple Intelligence flopped so far, so 13 works well enough

[silver zealot]

13pm to 15pm is dedication
are you made of money 😭

[crude vortex]

buying 16 is pointless,apple intelligence is still in beta,just get a ip 17

[fierce thistle]

yeah, that's what I said.

[fierce thistle]

There's people who go from 14-15 or 15-16 so it's better than that I guess

[trim blade]

I have 850 watts which supplies a i9 14900k and 4070ti super

[silk island]

13 pro max to the 15 pro max after almost three years, how the fuck is that dedication?

[fierce thistle]

2-4 years per upgrade is the sweet spot for iPhones.

[crude vortex]

not really,she probably got ip 15pm for way lesser than the retail price

[silk island]

yeah I traded in my 13pm

I upgraded 5 months before the 16 pro max released, that is not dedication lol

[crude vortex]

what rgb are you powering?your fans?

[crude vortex]

exactly

[trim blade]

Rgb for fans cpu fans cables and some other accessories

[silver zealot]

Yeah I personally find that crazy
not necessarily the cost, but the ewaste generated pisses me off

[crude vortex]

most of the iphones get refurbished and people buy them

[silk island]

I traded in my phone so there was no e-waste

[silver zealot]

🔥

W

[silk island]

plus, most phones don’t go to e-waste, they’re usually handed down after someone upgrades

[fierce thistle]

guys i finally found hotdog buns.

[silk island]

be it to a friend, someone’s kid, etc

[crude vortex]

i mean if youre upgrading to s new phone every year and just yeeting your old one in a drawer for no reason,youre the most dumb person to exist lol

[fierce thistle]

yeah, or just kept at home. I have a pc older than me and 2 phones. Me and mom used to share a phone 2020-2024.

[silk island]

putting them in a drawer is better than throwing them in a garbage can

[silver zealot]

me 😭 🙏
I'm the person who would totally buy after probably too long

[rough creek]

Yea I'm taking a wait and see approach. But because of how Apple AI has played out the 16 sales are bad and the stock is taking a beating

[fierce thistle]

for reference I do not yeet old ones into "le electronics drawer"; I honor my phone's service to me after I upgrade (every 2-4 years) and keep it in my drawer.

[crude vortex]

yes obviously,but why not just trade it

[silk island]

not a lot of people know that trade-in exists

or most people go through carriers anyways

[wide sandal]

Anyone want this?

[crude vortex]

iphones and samsungs are only phones in the market that have justified trade in value,others are shit

[silver zealot]

yh i've never normally bought a phone that was high end enought to have any value on trade in lol

[wide sandal]

OnePlus too

[fierce thistle]

what does it say when you click more details? If I don't need a payment method I'll take it

[wide sandal]

Google pixel too

[crude vortex]

but people prefer buying them brand new

[fierce thistle]

I'm gonna put this lukewarm take here: iPhones are better if you're not tech savvy

[silver zealot]

Still rocking my Samsung A22 😔
Takes phone calls and answers texts which is about all I need

[fierce thistle]

Yeah fuck no then I don't have a valid payment method

[silver zealot]

Agreed tbh

[wide sandal]

True but I'd say even for non tech savvy people Google is a known brand

[crude vortex]

yeah

[wide sandal]

I got plenty of iOS friends all of em know Google makes phones

[wide sandal]

Damn

[silver zealot]

Its borderline impossible to accidentally mess up IOS

[crude vortex]

google makes good phones,i got an iphone 12 right now,ill probably buy a pixel 8 or smth in a few months

[winged spire]

iPhones are better period.

[fierce thistle]

if you're a person who knows what they're doing with phones you're better off with a android because you won't download "roblox mod apk" or "tiktok mod apk", and iphones won't let you do that because walled garden

[winged spire]

The issue with Google is you’re paying full price for like 3 year old hardware

[wide sandal]

Yep

[fierce thistle]

you tried to cook and couldn't recieve the spice shelf

[wide sandal]

Nah I wouldn't say theyre outright better

[winged spire]

What does that even mean

[silver zealot]

Lets agree to disagree lol

[wide sandal]

iPhones will NEVER be outright better than other brands

[fierce thistle]

^

[winged spire]

lol

[wide sandal]

You physically can't give a point that makes them outright better

id actually argue Samsung is better

[obsidian oracle]

but my iphone is an iphone!
said the average iphone owner

[winged spire]

How

[wide sandal]

😂or it's made by apple

[winged spire]

How is Samsung better lol

[obsidian oracle]

that too yea

[fierce thistle]

iPhones are better for ease of use, and non nerds who just want a phone they can use, or for people trapped in the walled garden to lazy to get out. If you're a nerd and know how to use a phone and not get scammed, the iPhone protection is useless to you, and android will give you much better performance or something specific you might want, eg. Gaming performance, then you'd get a redmagic etc.

[crude vortex]

GUYS,trust me we can go all day arguing between androids and ios😭

[obsidian oracle]

has a back button on the ui instead of different location for each app

that alone is worth the switch

[wide sandal]

It's android not iOS, so far more customisability and I can install apks with ease,

I love the spen, arguably better cameras too and more often than not better battery life

[crude vortex]

EXACTLY

[wide sandal]

Display is also better than iPhone displays

Actually I say iPhone displays but Samsung makes apple displays

[obsidian oracle]

i love it when my finger goes along the screen looking for where the back button is on each app 🥰

[fierce thistle]

If you have a dad that just wants to take pictures of birds for example, better off with a iPhone. Harder to get scammed unless he can sideload "taxes.ipa"

[wide sandal]

I guess it's displays are better than it's other displays?

[silver zealot]

1 of many) sideloading

[crude vortex]

1440p resolution and 1180p resolution dont have much difference on a 6’7 inch screen buddy

[winged spire]

This is just copium when the real answer is “if you like iPhones get an iPhone and if you like Samsungs get a Samsung”

Literally that simple

[wide sandal]

Yep, iPhones are for the people who don't wanna get into depth in phones

[fierce thistle]

Exactly. For people who want shit working out the box.

[winged spire]

I’ve literally never felt the desire to sideload apps on my phone

[wide sandal]

Samsung displays are much brighter and visual quality just feels better side by side

[fierce thistle]

kinda like how consoles are to a hypercasual gamer

[crude vortex]

i got an iphone too😭,and im not taking anyone’s side

[wide sandal]

Yep

[winged spire]

I frankly could not give less of a fuck about side loading

[keen cedar]

Me when I want to doomscroll and talk on discord instead of side loading

[wide sandal]

Because it's much more difficult

[fierce thistle]

can we PLEASE get off the iOS V. android topic? It's not going anywhere.

[wide sandal]

Installing an apk is considerably easier than sideloading

[winged spire]

No? Because I’ve liteallly never had a reason to

[keen cedar]

Because not everyone has a use for sideloading

[trim blade]

Just installed a new CPU along with new motherboard and RAM. i9 14900k + z790 Asus.

[winged spire]

99.99999% of people do not

[keen cedar]

The App Store has everything you need lmao

[silver zealot]

no need for 99% of people
its just nice to have for some uses

[still forge]

Yeah the phone you like is the phone you should buy but it doesnt change the fact that other brands have better hardware and price

[fierce thistle]

HA! buddy paid for a Intel cpu! 😂

[silver zealot]

and apple has 100% control over that 😦

[crude vortex]

update your bios or smth

[keen cedar]

It’s a good cpu

[wide sandal]

That's just an additional reason

[keen cedar]

Don’t really care

[winged spire]

“My reason for X phone being better is something that almost nobody will ever use”

[wide sandal]

Apks was just once of the features I mentioned bud but ok

[silver zealot]

tech server
gets made for people wanting android for techy things

[fossil frost]

it doesnt matter if "most people" want to sideload or not.. the problem is that they are being told they are not allowed, on a device they own, THEIR device... thats the issue that is being brought up with governments... choice... the freedom to choose whether you want to do or not... whether you DO or not, is irrelevant

[wide sandal]

real

[wide sandal]

Exactly

[fierce thistle]

someone tell bro about the i9 14th gen CPUs exploding or something I don't remember

[wide sandal]

I got plenty of users who want to sideload as I sell iOS tools

[winged spire]

Then you have the freedom to buy a device that lets you 🤷

[wide sandal]

They resort to trollstore and other shit instead

[trim blade]

And how am I meant to do that if I can’t load into my windows

[wide sandal]

Proving my point

[glass mural]

I got one of those codes from my nitro but no pc 💔

[crude vortex]

uhh right,contact support they’re quick

[winged spire]

Android vs iOS arguments are always the least productive conversation held here

[fierce thistle]

can we get off the topic of iPhone versus android?

[wide sandal]

I just never use Xbox shit 😦

[fossil frost]

thats apples argument, but for many people, there is no choice, which has been argued by several governments now

[wide sandal]

Ye they never go anywhere

[winged spire]

Please

[crude vortex]

yes lets talk about xbox vs playstations🥰

[winged spire]

Please no 💀💀💀

[fierce thistle]

brother,...... Dudirvfuvdc rxrtxdyxrcgy

[crude vortex]

(playstation’s better)

[wide sandal]

Playstation always better

[winged spire]

Everyone knows PC is better lol

😈

[wide sandal]

[crude vortex]

obviously,or else you wouldn’t be in ltt server

but the point is

xbox is complete dogshit

[winged spire]

Ok 👍🏻

[wide sandal]

I'll give the series s credit where it's due tho

[rough creek]

PC master race something something?

[wide sandal]

can get that shit £100 used and it performs somewhat well

[winged spire]

Always

[fossil frost]

still makes me laugh that people dont realise where PCMR comes from.. 🙂

[fierce thistle]

PC > PS > Xbox

[wide sandal]

💯

[fierce thistle]

Yay everyone agrees. Now let's talk about food.

[silver zealot]

yeah remove that ❌ BOI

[winged spire]

Cats

lets talk about cats

[fierce thistle]

Just added in case anyone wanted to add it

[crude vortex]

bro disagreed w himself😭

[wide sandal]

apple juice>orange juice

[crude vortex]

YUMMYYYY

[fierce thistle]

I am a cat.

[crude vortex]

🥰🥰

[winged spire]

Look at this cat

[silver zealot]

only if not from concentrate

[fierce thistle]

No buddy I js added it so people can vote

[fossil frost]

PCMR started as a joke by yahtzee from zero punctuation, equating PC elitism to the same type of elitism that was in germany in the 1940s...and some people with that 1940 germany attitude, ran with it, and now people have forgotten those beginnings

[wide sandal]

Yep

Pepsi>coke

[winged spire]

Look at this cat

[fierce thistle]

pulp in juice is ewwww blehhh

[crude vortex]

nahhh W

[fierce thistle]

grrrr

[winged spire]

Kitty !

[wide sandal]

It's alright

[fierce thistle]

Cute chicken

[silver zealot]

I dont mind it
depends on the juice

[wide sandal]

I'll engulf a freshly squeezed glass of orange juice ngl even tho I love apple

[crude vortex]

i can see a snake under it

[fierce thistle]

What's the size of caseoh

[keen cedar]

Ok

[fierce thistle]

He's massive.

[winged spire]

He likes rolling around on concrete

[fierce thistle]

You know what else is massive....?

[wide sandal]

Imagine if 🥷🏻

[fierce thistle]

LOWWW TAPER FA- shot down by the guy who bought a property in Egypt

[winged spire]

orang

[fierce thistle]

cowboy kitty

[wide sandal]

I been running into you

[glass mural]

Get out please 💔

[wide sandal]

You mean GETTTTT OUTTTTTTTT

[glass mural]

New Year’s resolution was to not have any more brainrot

[silver zealot]

I rate this
Orange hits harder when you havent had it in a while
I love the complexity you can get with apple, all the different flavours depending on the type
I know orange has different varieties too, but i feel it pales in comparison to the utility of apple

holy fuck i did NOT have to go that deep into juice meta

[wide sandal]

Ai?

[keen cedar]

Cranberry juice sweetened with apple juice

[silver zealot]

no?

[wide sandal]

Just checking I respect the dedication

[fossil frost]

dedication to what?

[wide sandal]

fizzy apple juice is Hella good too

[glass mural]

Idk but orange juice is bitter asf to me

[wide sandal]

To explaining which juice is better

[dusky jacinth]

Someone's own DIY project that isn't built on pc hardware > PC > PS > XB
Lol.

[silver zealot]

Average Cranberry just has too much added sugar in it imo
its basically just fruitier pop

[glass mural]

Also the texture of oranges makes me wanna vomit

[wide sandal]

Watermelon juice is ass too

[silver zealot]

hands down

[keen cedar]

I hate soda so it’s fire

[silver zealot]

its in the same tier as tomato juice

[fossil frost]

they wrote 5 sentences... its not like they did much, or anything at all... it took them a few seconds...

[wide sandal]

Bunch of synthetic factory made shit it doesn't taste anything like watermelon

[wide sandal]

Yep

[silver zealot]

yeah 😭

[wide sandal]

No one bothers to write long messages like that for something like juice ngl

Only reason I said that

[fossil frost]

how is that a long message?

[silver zealot]

idk it looks long on mobile ig

[fossil frost]

its 5 sentences... its not "long", its hardly even a paragraph...

[wide sandal]

5 average sized sentences is a decent sized message for a discord message especially on mobile

[silver zealot]

how did we go from juice to debating what makes a message long 😭

[winged spire]

Orange juice is crazy bro

[fossil frost]

5 sentences is long, if you are 5, and just learning how to read...

[winged spire]

I can drink a whole jug in one sitting.. it’s a problem

[wide sandal]

This looks fairly long to me

[silver zealot]

yh fair

[wide sandal]

Bro wtf? Why are you crashing out over a message I thought was fairly long

[glass mural]

This is my discord experience

[winged spire]

That happens here with a few choice server members

[glass mural]

My phone is OLED so the #000000 background is great

[wide sandal]

Yep I'm beginning to see now

[winged spire]

You’ll find out who the others are soon lol

https://fxtwitter.com/punchingcat/status/1879544377829368150?s=46&t=3yTVjStlJiHIgKJJFBuL0w

[wide sandal]

I needa get off this cheap OnePlus ngl

[glass mural]

Get a Samsung or something their base models are OLED

[silver zealot]

I love the super dark theme on mobile

[crude vortex]

i had an s8+ a few years back,i used to text on discord so much
“#✉️general-chat” got burnt onto my screen,my parents got so mad

[winged spire]

im on the strawberry banan theme or whatever the fuck

[glass mural]

It shuts those pixels off on OLEDs

[glass mural]

Yeah those phones had horrible burn in issues

[winged spire]

no I lied

[glass mural]

My mom’s S9 has the Home Screen burned in

[winged spire]

im on blurple twilight

[glass mural]

I used to use that theme but #00000 is more me

[winged spire]

I love blurple

[neon pollen]

GM

[crude vortex]

my mom’s vivo got instagram’s logo burnt onto the screen

[winged spire]

its such a peak color

[silver zealot]

colour tier list time?

[glass mural]

Me simple

[wide sandal]

Damn bruh

[crude vortex]

whaaa

[winged spire]

blurple is PEAK

[glass mural]

I don’t even use HBO max Hulu or Disney

[winged spire]

such a good color bro

[glass mural]

Lemme hide those

[silver zealot]

having folders when theres free space just doesnt make sense imo

[crude vortex]

i wonder what your lockscreen looked like before ios 18 @glass mural 😭

[glass mural]

Basically just stuff to move the stuff down

[urban haven]

Guys I just quit my job 10 minutes ago so I could switch stations (because stations from the same provider are sometimes split as their own company) wish me luck lmfao

[glass mural]

Also I’m left handed

[silver zealot]

they should totally make 10% of phone models have the buttons on the other side

[crude vortex]

for doing what exactly?🤨🤨🤨

[winged spire]

My lock screen

[silver zealot]

go too sleep 😭

[winged spire]

its 3 bro what

[wide sandal]

Damn

[crude vortex]

what lang is it on the widget

[silver zealot]

oh u us?

[winged spire]

those are my airpods

[wide sandal]

Hebrew it looks like

[crude vortex]

is it a oneplus?idk

[winged spire]

hebrew

[wide sandal]

Yes

[silver zealot]

yh so its 3am 😭

[wide sandal]

Nord 2T 5G

[glass mural]

My Lock Screen

[crude vortex]

clean

[winged spire]

no

I live in louisiana lmao

[wide sandal]

Thnx I try be minimalistic af

[silver zealot]

I said are u US 😭

[crude vortex]

are you too scared of burn ins😭

[wide sandal]

3pm there?

[winged spire]

Yes

[potent cedar]

they haven't made any real new cpus since am5 launched and almost certainly never will again
"support" is used pretty liberally here

[winged spire]

Central standard time is obviously the best time zone

[silver zealot]

they did a couple refreshes didnt they? but that was about it

[glass mural]

I just love how dark the screen can get

[winged spire]

Eastern timezone is by FAR the worst timezone

[potent cedar]

HALF LIFE 3 :p

[glass mural]

And also kinda scared of burn in (I’ve burned in the top icons

I wish the app tinting was better

[crude vortex]

my lockscreen

[urban haven]

How many of yall have been unemployed for 6 months or a year?
Kinda scared because I've been unemployed for 1.5 months rn

[potent cedar]

they're not really new cpus, they were all either mobile chips repackaged for desktop or desktop chips with slight binning
"hi, here's a 5950x but with 200mhz less boost clock speed" is not really a new cpu

[winged spire]

Im yet to see any iphone users change the flashlight and camera buttons on the lockscreen

[glass mural]

You get sliders instead of full color customization

[crude vortex]

my whole life fym?

what field are you in? @urban haven

[winged spire]

I mean as long as you’re not homeless you’re chillin lol

[glass mural]

I would change it but flashlight access when locked is non negotiable and it looks weird if the camera isn’t there

[winged spire]

Exactly

[crude vortex]

the app lock and hide system is so shit on iphones,its so annoying

[urban haven]

I'm a Paramedic, everyone else would think "well everyone wants you" but the fuck we have seven different emergency service providers JUST IN MY CITY and most of them are canceling current workers in favor of volunteer paramedics. Basically someone doing this for fun is taking the opportunity

[crude vortex]

do you live alone or with parents

[glass mural]

Eye tracing fucking sucks ong

[crude vortex]

real

[urban haven]

I just quit ten minutes ago via email because our station is ran by idiots firing people left and right because we got enough volunteers. I love this job, I couldn't think I'd do something else in the future

[urban haven]

Alone. But state pays my apartment because of unemployment

[austere shale]

What’re the odds that TikTok lets me into my dead friends account so I can download all his videos the easy way?

[glass mural]

I cant type anything

[crude vortex]

well,i dont live in usa so i cant advice

may i ask whats your age?

[urban haven]

I don't do either lmfao
But our system is fucked, Paramedics get payed 1600 a month. Which is below minimum wage

[urban haven]

23

[crude vortex]

well,youre fine since you dont have a family member dependent on you financially

take your time

[glass mural]

Back in my day we would work for one company until we dropped dead

[crude vortex]

and now people work for different fast food chains until they die💀

[austere shale]

I wish there was gains to be made this way

[silver zealot]

Imagine if they gave a good pension 😭

[urban haven]

Damn like I would start a family. Autism+social anxiety disorder
I love to be alone except when I'm on shift. It's amazing how fast I can switch attitude

[urban haven]

Fun fact: paramedics in my country get minimum pension because our occupation is not a legal recognized one which makes our status seem like we're illegal workers

[silver zealot]

:(((((

[crude vortex]

the hell what country is it

[silver zealot]

I've only ever worked under the table so far, so never got anything other than pay lol

[crude vortex]

have you been applying to other places?

[urban haven]

Austria.
We get minimum pay + minimum pension because we're not an official occupation but rather a "paid labor job that requires no training" despite having half a year of training

[urban haven]

Yeah but somehow most places are not looking for a Paramedic despite having a shortage in medical staff. Due to cost reason

I am a trained electric engineer and could work in that field but it's not what my heart wants. I feel happy and fulfilled as a Paramedic

[crude vortex]

i thought paramedics were required a degree in bio field

[silver zealot]

Sadly happy and fulfilled means little to employers these days 😦

[urban haven]

Nahhh
Our country had the lowest education in emergency medical services. It's three months but I took extra courses because I wanted to be informed

[urban haven]

Yeah, hoping this one application I sent gets accepted

[trim blade]

Blue screen of death says inaccessible boot device after installing new motherboard and cpu I have a 850 watt psu i9-14900k 4070ti super

[crude vortex]

thats fucked up.

[urban haven]

I tried to be on top. Provided them my courses I took and I'm still "just an applicant"

[hollow coral]

is this a usual score for the RX 6600 on cinebench with no OC?

[urban haven]

Our emergency system is fucked but I can't complain

[hollow coral]

you certainly can complain. what?

you have a mf voice

use it

[strong quartz]

Hey guys, I am new on this discord and new to pc building I have a pre-built I bought 4 years ago that has a 2060, I was planning to uograde it to the 4060TI 16GB, but seing as the new gpu’s are comming out I want some sugestions. Should I buy the 5070 or the 4060TI?

My budget is around $600

[crude vortex]

we live in democracy,doesn’t work that way lol

[hollow coral]

4060ti 16gb?

didnt know that existed

[obsidian oracle]

lol

[rough creek]

get the 5070 if you can afford it

[silver zealot]

I would NEVER get the 4060 16gb

[hollow coral]

5070... how is this a question

[urban haven]

Already got one lawsuit on my hand got pointing out shady stuff

[crude vortex]

what about your old work colleagues?

[strong quartz]

40060TI pro-art was what I was going for before

[hollow coral]

if you had to think about 5070 or 4060ti youre insane

[urban haven]

They don't complain. They fear the same

[hollow coral]

5070 with AI stuff outperforms the 4090

[strong quartz]

If I save up one more month while I wait for it to come out I could

[strong quartz]

Is it a bad card?

[silver zealot]

if you turn the ai stuff on the 4090 tho its not even close

[silver zealot]

not bad per say, just awful value

[hollow coral]

yea i know but its insane to think a card for a third of the price can beat the 4090 in any way

[strong quartz]

There was controversy that the card is not “actually good” because the fps is AI fake fps

[silver zealot]

multi frame gen is basically cheating

[hollow coral]

who gives a fuck

i use frame gen 🤷‍♂️

[silver zealot]

people who dont want latency?

[crude vortex]

ahh,just dont regret your choice.Give it some time,if youre so enthusiastic,youll definitely get a good job.all the best!

[hollow coral]

with frame gen i get the same frame times.

[silver zealot]

I highly doubt lol

[hollow coral]

i do

i also dont notice any latency

[silver zealot]

what gpu u got?

[hollow coral]

but still, 5070 is much better than the 4060ti

[strong quartz]

Thats nice to hear

[hollow coral]

6600

[silver zealot]

yeah agreed

[silver zealot]

fsr =/= multi frame gen lmao

[hollow coral]

like even just using DLSS on the 5070 will blow the 4060ti out of the water

[hollow coral]

it has frame gen on cyberpunk

[strong quartz]

On paper it sounds way better, but because of all of the talk of the AI frame gen bot being real performance I wanted to just double chexk to see if its worth waiting for the 5070 in february

[silver zealot]

not multi frame gen tho

[hollow coral]

good scores for pbo and no gpu oc?

[hollow coral]

no. the 5070 is quite literally way better

[silver zealot]

yeah i would defo wait

[hollow coral]

its a 60 vs a 70 + newer generation

[silver zealot]

I personally would go for the upcoming 9070xt instead, but im a bit of a value snob

[hollow coral]

ngl the specs dont even look that amazing but i havent seen the price

kind of seems like amd are doing what they did before and are tryna snipe a name

so when nvidia does eventually do 9000 the 9070 name is already in use

[strong quartz]

Thank you guys!!

Also planning to upgrade my motherbord, ram, cpu. To the B650 Eagle AX, Ryzen 5 9600X, 2x 16GB ram

This sounds good and is compatible with the 5070 gpu?

[hollow coral]

honestly

[silver zealot]

performs like the 7900gre -> xt
price is rumoured to be ~500
basically blowing anything in that price range out of the water

[silver zealot]

what cpu and mobo u have rn?

[hollow coral]

if youre gonna go am5, spring for the 9800x

[silver zealot]

doesnt exist?

[hollow coral]

oh shit i might get that

[strong quartz]

Great question, I can check real quick

[hollow coral]

i mean x3d

[silver zealot]

If you can afford it you can ig, but i would always recommend the 7600(x)
much more economical

[hollow coral]

and i mean if youre getting a really good gpu the cpu would bottleneck it

[silver zealot]

every am5 cpu can handle 5070 class gpus
with the excpetion of the 8000 series

[hollow coral]

yea but if theyre gonna get a 9070 instead, can it handle that?

[silver zealot]

Yeah i would say so
At 1440p and above 1000% (even more so)

[hollow coral]

hmmm

[fossil frost]

yes, any cpu that supports PCI-E can... what nobody has bothered to ask, is what are they trying to do, what games are they trying to play.. and instead, just throwing rorund "bottleneck" like they know what it means

[hollow coral]

i mean id assume theyre wanting to just game

[silver zealot]

any cpu is a huge stretch

[hollow coral]

yea lol

[fossil frost]

no, its not.. any cpu can run any gpu... depending on what you are planning on doing with it

[hollow coral]

a ryzen 5 2600 is gonna be horrible for any last couple year gpu in gaming

[silver zealot]

^

[hollow coral]

lol

[strong quartz]

Sorry for the delay.

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700F 2.90GHz (4.80GHz Turbo Boost), 8-Core 16-Thread
GPU: GeForce RTX 2060 6GB (Brand May Vary)
Motherboard: Intel B560 (Brand May Vary)
RAM: 16GB DDR4 3000MHz (2x8GB)

[silver zealot]

ryzen 5 2600 wouldnt even get the 6600 to like 80% usage in most games probably

[hollow coral]

thats why i upgraded my 3600 to a 5900x when i got my 6600

[fossil frost]

nothing was specified about gaming, everyrone just assumed and started shouting "BOTTLENECK!"

[hollow coral]

if theyre looking at a 5070 or 4060ti theyre likely gonna be gaming

[silver zealot]

No worries man!
Am5 seems like a lovely upgrade 🙂
Whats ur budget for everything?

Sadly theres not many parts you could utilise for the new build from this 😦

[fossil frost]

my son has an i7 7700.. and a 6600xt... maxes the 6600xt on the games he plays

[strong quartz]

For everything around 1K

I’m from the Netherlands so prices may vary a bit

[silver zealot]

👍

[hollow coral]

sillicon lottery

🤷‍♂️

[silver zealot]

Whats ur psu?

Wattage

[strong quartz]

Yeah I bought my pc in early 2021 so I think its time for an upgrade

[hollow coral]

ive been upgrading my pc as i go

[fossil frost]

not at all. its just that the games he plays are typically esports games and require very little from the cpu, or the gpu, he gets many 100s of fps in the games he plays, and very low latency.. and the person who built the pc for him, actually knew what they were doing and actually knew what he wanted to do with it

[silver zealot]

esports use a lot of cpu...

[fossil frost]

CAN use a lot of cpu, on certain games, yes

[silver zealot]

most

[strong quartz]

Currently I have a 650 Watt, but I bought a gigabyte 800Watt psu last year in preparation for my upgrades.

Trying to slowly accumulate the parts

[silver zealot]

Well done 😉

I was expecting you might have to upgrade that otherwise lol

[hollow coral]

i started with
Ryzen 5 3600
AMD HD 6850
MSI x470 Gaming Plus (still have)
2 Drives (NVMe and HDD)
Antec HCG 750w bronze (still have)
Silicon Power 16gb ram
Coolermaster MB520

[fossil frost]

you know what... im wrong... you are right... i have the pc in front of me, ive seen it, but im wrong... ok?

[silver zealot]

its cool man 😂

[silver zealot]

My current build i just started anew

[fossil frost]

im so glad im not a child anymore, and actually capable of thinking for myself and dont need youtubers to tell me what to think in short buzzword filled sentences

[silver zealot]

So just to check, you want a new gpu (5070/4060ti) and am5 as well?

[hollow coral]

ive now got a 5900x, rx 6600, 5 drives while keeping the original 2 and adding 3 ssds, 1 nvme 2 sata, changedthe ram 2 times for kingston fury beast and now corsair vengeance, doubled the amount since getting my pc and now have a corsair 5000d airflow

ive had some awesome upgrades over the last 4 years

[strong quartz]

Now that you mention it I do have a question, when I got the new PSU I tried to put it into my current (old) system and it wouldn’t boot I mase sure everything was connected correctly. After some testing I found put that if I remove the GPU it boots, everything spins and works as intended, the second I plug in the GPU I hear a small click in the PSU, the fan spins for 1 milimeter and the system doesnt boot. I read online that some GPU’s dont work with every PSU??? I was hoping once I got the new GPU it would fox itsself out

[strong quartz]

Thats the plan, yes

[silver zealot]

The system should 100% work with any gpu and/or psu

[hollow coral]

what power is the psu

[silver zealot]

800w

[hollow coral]

might just be a faulty pcie cable

[strong quartz]

The old one that works is 650 Watt, the new one is 800Watt and doesnt work assoon as I plug the gpu in

[silver zealot]

Do you have any idea on the models?

[strong quartz]

Of the new one?

[hollow coral]

yea as i said, might be faulty pcie cable

[silver zealot]

its possible the gpu is relying solely on the power from the mobo, and as such won't boot

[viscid elm]

sounds like some one should go to https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1027757333117415424

[silver zealot]

yh

[hollow coral]

benchmarking cyberpunk

[strong quartz]

I might have a video of when I tried, testing it

[hollow coral]

or because we are nice we can help here.

[harsh quartz]

Was an upgrade from an fx4000 to a 5800x worth it?

[hollow coral]

yes 😭

[silver zealot]

💀 ye

[silver zealot]

also W 5800x gang 🙂

[hollow coral]

upgrading to any zen cpu was worth

i love frame gen

[silver zealot]

is ur new psu a modular one?

[strong quartz]

Yes its a modular one

[silver zealot]

was your old one a modular one?

[hollow coral]

could try the pcie cable from the old one if its modular too

[silver zealot]

I was about to say this is what you shouldnt do lol

[hollow coral]

oh lmao

[silver zealot]

its possible OP did this

[rough creek]

Now I want to benchmark Cyberpunk. What software is that?

[strong quartz]

Its the gigabyte UD Gold
750Watt (not 800, sorry)
UD750GM modular power supply

[strong quartz]

No

[silver zealot]

good psu
was worried it was a P750GM

[silver zealot]

👍

[hollow coral]

that i used for the temps and power usage? just amd adrenalin lol

[silver zealot]

No reason why it shouldnt work
i have a feeling it was just a cable not being plugged in correctly

[rough creek]

ok I don't think I have that installed

I do have a ryzen cpu

[hollow coral]

you wouldnt if you dont have amd gpu

[rough creek]

oh poo poo

[hollow coral]

yea adrenalin is the gpu drivers

also gah damn that gpu clock speed

7.4ghz

[strong quartz]

I tried plugging reconnecting every cable multiple times, I spent 3 hours working on it but maybe I did miss something. As I said it worked once I unpligged the gpu but the second I plugged it back in it made a click and didnt boot, no lights no nothing

[hollow coral]

oh wait thats the memory usage 😭

[silver zealot]

@strong quartz couple final questions 🙂
Whats your use case? We assumed gaming earlier is this correct
ATX or Matx (how big is your current case)
Do you need wireless wifi

[hollow coral]

so this was all high settings

im doing all medium now to see the difference in temps

fps is lower?

[strong quartz]

Yes gaming, ATX (Phantex p500 A) and no I dont need wireless

[silver zealot]

no lights to me seems like a short circuit or lack of power somehow
I'm sure if you video it next time you come to use it, and it doesnt work, people here (myself included if im around lol) will happily see if theres anything wrong
its possible your psu is just broken, in which case you should be okay because the warranty on the ud750 is quite long

[silver zealot]

Lovely 🙂

[hollow coral]

i mean wifi boards are kind of a waste of money, just buy a wifi card if you really need

[harsh quartz]

Ehh, not really

[hollow coral]

oh i didnt have frame gen on that time, thats why fps was lower

[silver zealot]

Its often cheaper tbh to get the mobo

[hollow coral]

wasnt for me

australia might just be cooked

[harsh quartz]

Easier driver management and better on space constraints. And if your buying any higher dollar mobo it’ll likely have WiFi anyways

[silver zealot]

I mean it is pretty hot there 😂

[strong quartz]

I might have the video somewhere. I will lyk if I do

[hollow coral]

medium settings no frame gen

[silver zealot]

cool!
Will you be reusing the cooler from your current build?

[hollow coral]

lmfaooo not rn tho

[silver zealot]

5 degrees rn for me

[hollow coral]

ughhh lemme have

160fps on medium settings with frame gen, very nice

there is tearing but im on 60hz so

[frail wasp]

22F here

[hollow coral]

GIIVE ME

[frail wasp]

???

Cold?

[hollow coral]

i want cold weather

yes. i hate the heat

[silver zealot]

trade places 🙏

[frail wasp]

Oh. I love the heat

[hollow coral]

who wants to see my benchmark with max ray tracing and max settings.

[silver zealot]

I got the fire on rn, and its still fucking freezing
Hot water bottle as well

[frail wasp]

US sucks in that anywhere warm is expensive. If not it has crazies

[hollow coral]

time to see how much heat comes outa my gpu from this

10 fps, huge

surprisingly my gpu is only using 65-75w

[humble topaz]

unsure if this is a good place but:

looking to buy a power station with solar and a couple outlets, any good long lasting solutions? tysm! amazon preferred

[strong quartz]

I have the Corsair AIO, so yes

[rough creek]

-2 C / feels like -8 C here

[silver zealot]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/ypccMC

You suggested the eagle ax earlier, and its a great pick!
I selected the regular eagle, as its just the same as the eagle ax without the wifi, so it lets you save a few bucks
7600x is much cheaper than the 9600x rn in your country, and has barely any performance loss
Gpu is up to you, i personally would go for the 9070xt, but its totally your call

[rough creek]

that's 29 F / 17 F

[strong quartz]

I found a video from back in September when I was fiddling with it, I can try and see if I can send you

[silver zealot]

Yh I'd be more than happy to take a look if it helps 🙂

[strong quartz]

I think I originally chose the eagle ax due to my last house not having an ethernet connection, but after I moved thats not an issue anymore. Thank you so much for all the time and help you provided me

[hollow coral]

ray tracing overdrive is not good idea for me

[silver zealot]

ofc bro, anytime
lmk if you need anything ever, or just drop a post in this server, there are plenty of helpful people around 🙂

[obsidian oracle]

nah 9 images per second is perfect

[hollow coral]

so right

and thats with frame gen 😭

im so cooked man

[obsidian oracle]

lmfaooooo

[hollow coral]

rx 6600 is NOT a ray tracing card

[obsidian oracle]

good morning

[hollow coral]

why even enable it for that card

[silver zealot]

rendering maybe idk

[obsidian oracle]

rt can be done via software too, my 1660 super can do rt on cyberpunk even tho theres no rt cores

[hollow coral]

prob

😭

brudda gets negative fps

[silver zealot]

how many spf?

[obsidian oracle]

and that was the way for cards without rt cores on every game till indiana jones game made it hardware only and the game is rt only

[obsidian oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1279566310186946680.png?size=160&name=what+(arisu)

[silver zealot]

seconds per frame 😂 😂

[obsidian oracle]

why say spf

also i got like 20-25 but it was too glitchy on that framerate

rt is performing better visually for ghosting etc the more frames u have

and my gpu isnt 30 series so theres no ray reconstructing

appearently RR is on all rtx cards, cool

[potent cedar]

australia is definitely cooked

[obsidian oracle]

any place without a microcenter is, their deals are amazing

[polar fern]

I just saw Linus‘s segment on Tonight Show

Say what you will about popular TV but it must be a pretty good feeling to finally be acknowledged for all of the work you put in over the years like that

[lethal tulip]

Where do I ask for help

[manic torrent]

just scream it into the void

[rough creek]

do you have a link?

[pallid falcon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vybLi25Q8Fw

[rough creek]

thanks

quick question folks:

I have 2x16 GB DDR4 RAM sticks from G Skill. I want to upgrade the 32 GB. Is it really necessary to try to find the exact same RAM or change brands altogether or can I just buy 2 more RAM sticks from whatever brand is good now? I bought this RAM over 3 years ago so it might not be so easy to find the same brand and model

[obsidian oracle]

even takes long to read, very short question

u can get different brands but thats as far as i know, ask further in #overclocking and state that u dont plan to overclock and just came there to ask about it cus they know rams very well

[alpine thistle]

Hello. I'm new here and my first languets isn't English.

[obsidian oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/859913580987547648.png?size=160&name=MenheraOK

[pallid falcon]

[keen cedar]

Chat

I cooked when I made this support today 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[obsidian oracle]

sick

overkill af but still cool

how much infill did u use

[keen cedar]

20%

[obsidian oracle]

gyat

[keen cedar]

All my filament is free to me so I don’t care about using a bit more

[obsidian oracle]

u really dont want that gpu to fall into void of bottom fans

[obsidian oracle]

oh how so?

[keen cedar]

I sell prints

Infinite filament hack

[obsidian oracle]

so u mean free as in cheap?

[keen cedar]

No that’s the only thing I spend that revenue on

[manic torrent]

soooooo it's a sunk cost, it's not free.

[keen cedar]

So I call it free

[keen cedar]

Something like that

Free enough

[obsidian oracle]

fair

[keen cedar]

But now my gpu is within 0.1mm front to back

[obsidian oracle]

is the front higher?

[keen cedar]

Idk

[obsidian oracle]

how did u figure out 0.1mm then lol

[keen cedar]

It’s hard to measure with calipers in that tiny case

[keen cedar]

I measured with calipers and it looks like that

And I modeled it for that

[obsidian oracle]

i see

considering u have a front fan, i wouldve gone for a support that is supporting on 2 parts of the gpu so theres no blockage to airflow at all

[keen cedar]

I get enough airflow that it’s fine

[obsidian oracle]

yeah thats just me being airflow nerd

[vapid smelt]

just pull out your johnson to see if your sagging

[obsidian oracle]

lol

[keen cedar]

I have a case that gamers nexus calls bad

It’s like it’s a 33l case

[vapid smelt]

the coolmaster case?

[keen cedar]

Coolermaster qube500 yeah

[obsidian oracle]

compared to other cases, please dont hate on gn 🥺

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3n80GxU-Zs they did the q500L

[obsidian oracle]

did i just watch a yt video not embed?

[vapid smelt]

the power of < >

[obsidian oracle]

wha

[vapid smelt]

if you put the link it < > it doesn't embed

[obsidian oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/959916687682043974.png?size=160&name=Live+neco+reaction

i was expecting to see that when i hovered my cursor over the link, wish it was shown

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ i will demonstrate, and now poof its gone

"this is the time when you clap"

[vapid smelt]

spreading lies smh they never tested that case

[lone crystal]

Anyone else hearing rumors of the official discord email servers being hacked?
Hearing a lot of confusion about it

[manic torrent]

what is an "official discord email server"

and is there unofficial discord email servers?

[pure knoll]

Tiktok ban + Gaza ceasefire is wild

[keen cedar]

Close enough

[obsidian oracle]

lets not take politics here

[pure knoll]

I don't see anything mildly politic here

[obsidian oracle]

war is related with politics

[pure knoll]

Except the fact that tiktok ban was ruled by congress

[pure knoll]

No it isn't, I'm not giving an opinion

[obsidian oracle]

someone will when you start such topic

[fossil frost]

its political discussion, its against the rules, mods take a dim view of it

[pure knoll]

Fair enough

[obsidian oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1085874717740773437.png?size=160&name=AuraSmile

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rTBo6GltZis

[pure knoll]

I thought they concluded

[obsidian oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-council-high-council-pepe-council-frog-pepe-king-pepe-meeting-gif-12446664013382150789

[obsidian oracle]

pepe council

[lone crystal]

I can't be bothered to argue with you,
Can't even tell if it is real or not. So probably not as it's already been buried in this chat

[manic torrent]

It's almost certainly not real because "official discord email server" makes no sense and sounds like it's written by a 12 year old.

[vapid smelt]

[hollow coral]

said to this picture of my pc

ion need no back fan, 3-3 intake and exhaust

[obsidian oracle]

the top right image lol

[obsidian oracle]

yeah sure, it looks great without it too

[hollow coral]

you got a problem with my waifu 😔

[obsidian oracle]

nah

[vapid smelt]

you know the official discord email server the one they use to message death squads and send HR emails to employees

[hollow coral]

guys ngl tho what you think of my pc

ima buy a white gpu when i get a 5070

or i could paint the shroud and backplate, idk

[obsidian oracle]

its hot, just needs a better gpu

[stark idol]

Nah that’s the 5000

[manic torrent]

and put RGB in it

[fossil frost]

you dont want my honest opinion 🙂

[obsidian oracle]

3d printing over it is better than painting it

[hollow coral]

yea im gonna get a 5070 when i got the money

[obsidian oracle]

i wouldnt recommend it but go ahead if u really want ig

[hollow coral]

dont have a 3d printer

[hollow coral]

i literally asked for it 💀

[obsidian oracle]

get one, theyre sick

[lone crystal]

I am reminded why I blocked this server because everyone thinks they are superior in every way

[obsidian oracle]

nah its just that guy when it comes to pointless topics like that

i mean not just him but mostly just him rn

[hollow coral]

i have no clue about that space, id be in the dark on what to buy

[manic torrent]

I mean, I literally am. It's my job to understand security.

[stark idol]

The figure on the Aio tubes is funny

[fossil frost]

ok... fair enough... with the picture on it, and the colour scheme, and the fact that you feel the need to show off the gpu, and you are asking for the opinions of strangers on the internet... it all seems like you have a huge void where your personality should be, and are filling that void with shiney things and the meaningless opinions of internet strangers 🙂

[obsidian oracle]

#1027757333117415424 is there for a reason, dont hold yourself back from it

[fossil frost]

(told you that you didnt want my opinion 🙂 )

[hollow coral]

cyber security major?

[quasi belfry]

What damn server

[obsidian oracle]

he said pc, not him breh

[fossil frost]

thats what his pc says to me

[manic torrent]

lol, cyber security didn't exist when I went to uni.

[obsidian oracle]

yeah sure, totally not a thing someone who wanted to say what they wanted to say would say

[vapid smelt]

bob grew up with type writers

[fossil frost]

i remember netsend'ing the entire campus once, before MS patched that out 😄

[hollow coral]

just simply want to see my gpu fans instead of the backplate, the sticker is a nice and funny addition plus it matches my pc, the colour scheme i am getting a white gpu in the future and just cos i want to hear peoples opinions doesnt mean i have a void in my personality lmao

[manic torrent]

you joke, but I literally used typewriters for one year in school 😄

[hollow coral]

i see

so i assume you got into it after uni obviously

[vapid smelt]

i would have put the aio money into a better ssd

[hollow coral]

thanks, had it there for a while

[hollow coral]

my dad bought it and i have an MP600GS behind the gpu for boot drive

[manic torrent]

Someone who is actually Good[tm] at coding/sysadmin/devops/cyber understands all of them.

[shut birch]

woah sticker

[hollow coral]

i see, i have a friend who has a cyber sec degree

[manic torrent]

You really cannot be good at one without understanding the others

[fossil frost]

just ordered the 4tb of that same nvme yesterday, swapping out my 1tb wd blue nvme

[hollow coral]

nice

i wanna get a 2tb NV2 to replace my SA2000

[fossil frost]

which menans they were able to pass a standardised test.. means nothing in the real world... the real world is far dirtier than a test environment

[manic torrent]

most cyber is just... fairly banal pentests and reviews, and lots of compliance paperwork and bullshit

[hollow coral]

it also means he is qualified in that area

and the tests are changed often

[fossil frost]

no.. it does not.. passing a test gets you an opportunity to start working somewhere, once you start working there, THEN you become qualified... experience is worth far more than a test score

[hollow coral]

and what gets you the job? the test score

[manic torrent]

IMHO cyber security shouldn't even be an undergrad course.

[hollow coral]

true

[fossil frost]

i literally said that...

[hollow coral]

i wanna do comp sci

[manic torrent]

how can you do cyber security if you don't actually understand the systems

[silver sun]

371

[hollow coral]

i have a friend who did data analysis in uni

[winged spire]

I got a friend that dropped 100k in loans for a cyber engineering degree lol

[hollow coral]

hes almost finished

[fossil frost]

even that is too broad of a subject these days, they try to cram everything in so you can get a surface understanding of many things, but no real knowledge of any individual thing

[winged spire]

Bro is still looking for a job 9 months out of uni lmao

[hollow coral]

see im in australia where schooling isnt gonna put me in major debt

[stark idol]

Did he pick them back up?

[hollow coral]

nah he just faked his death and then got his degree changed to his new name fr

[stark idol]

Ohh frfr

[hollow coral]

dying is easy way to lose all debt

[winged spire]

Real

[fossil frost]

it can be, its also a good way to force your family to pay off certain types of debt too

[north escarp]

[hollow coral]

faking your death isnt even illegal unless its to evade tax or loans

[fossil frost]

some debt doesnt just go away

[hollow coral]

you took this too literally

[fossil frost]

because i have experience 🙂

[winged spire]

In America debt isn’t passed down like that so he would be chilling

[north escarp]

https://youtu.be/uH4sD-FzqlM?si=H5WepNx8BFDiUy41

[winged spire]

Passing debt down family lines is actually an insane concept 💀

[fossil frost]

my ex-wifes uncle actually died.. and they tried to saddle certain secured loans, against his estate, and since he left his estate to his sister... (my ex mother in law), she had to go to court to dispute the will, and not have to pay the debt, took years

[manic torrent]

unless you're married

[north escarp]

Lol

[hollow coral]

fr, your dad dies and then youre hit with "you now have 3m in debt!"

[manic torrent]

In america people get divorced so their spouse isn't saddled with literally millions of dollars of medical debt

[hollow coral]

like what a way

first time america does something right

[winged spire]

That’s some dystopian black mirror shit lol

[hollow coral]

for real

[fossil frost]

they do it so they can hide their wealth with their spouse so they dont have to pay billions of dollars in criminal liability from their radio show too

[manic torrent]

yep

[vapid smelt]

my brother got a job at Motorola working with the servers for the first responders with no college degree whatsoever and made 100k+ year then he left after they made record profit and laid people off putting more work on him and his team

[hollow coral]

when did a radio show come into this

[manic torrent]

whoosh

[hollow coral]

no it literally made no sense to say radio show

[manic torrent]

whoosh

[hollow coral]

im sorry that i dont have old person humour

[fossil frost]

alex jones got divorced and his wife "won" almost everything he was worth in the divorce... so now he has nothing he can have taken away from him... he owes billions of dollars because of lies he told on his radio show

[manic torrent]

do you know what whoosh means

[hollow coral]

yes...

[tender wyvern]

i just found a website that claims the UK has more costa than the US has starbucks wtf 😭

[hollow coral]

im not an idiot

[quasi belfry]

Doubt

[tender wyvern]

https://www.scrapehero.com/location-reports/Starbucks-USA/ https://www.scrapehero.com/location-reports/Costa Coffee-UK/ look for yourself

[manic torrent]

it doesn't "make no sense", it's a reference you didn't get

[fossil frost]

depends if they count "costa express" which is just a machine in another shop, but isnt actually costa

[quasi belfry]

Again, doubt

[winged spire]

Remember when Starbucks had good coffee?

I don’t

[manic torrent]

no

[quasi belfry]

I’ve never had it

[manic torrent]

I remember when they collapsed in australia

[hollow coral]

i swear i hate the auto mod here

[quasi belfry]

Lmao

[hollow coral]

they still here too

[tender wyvern]

it must do cause its insane if the uk has more costa than us starbucks

[hollow coral]

who do i have blocked here that cant react to my msgs?

[fossil frost]

yeah, it counts costa express, which can be a machine in a petrol station, or tesco, or anywhere else

[manic torrent]

technically, but they closed most of their locations

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym7YwFq8ZuM

[tender wyvern]

still, the density of costa express is quite impressive

[hollow coral]

ion remember blocking anyone here

[fossil frost]

those machines are easily hacked for free coffee too

[winged spire]

Is this about the stupid fuckin thing how you can fully use your gift card balance? That shit is so annoying

[hollow coral]

good, coffee not good enough to pay

[tender wyvern]

there's a costa express for every 4000 people

[hollow coral]

i actually hate coffee

[vapid smelt]

1.6 billion in gift cards

[fossil frost]

yep, makes it super easy for me to get free coffee whenever i want 😄

[winged spire]

It’s crazy how Starbucks managed to convince grown adults that having a 10$ 7am milkshake every day was a normal aspect of life

[hollow coral]

mostly women

i dont really see men in starbucks

[manic torrent]

... everything about american breakfast is manufactured

[winged spire]

Coffee is so fucking cheap too it’s just wild

[dusky glade]

So besides being a Joint account holder/Cosigner the only way to have debt passdown to someones next of Kin is student loans afaik

[hollow coral]

and its shit

[winged spire]

I can’t imagine dropping 10$ on a drink that’s like 100g of sugar and 10% coffee

[hollow coral]

how can you enjoy coffee?

[winged spire]

Coffee is delicious

[hollow coral]

no its not

[manic torrent]

because you're better than all those idiots buying drinks, right?

[winged spire]

Definitely depends on what coffee

[hollow coral]

id rather drink bitters than coffee

[fossil frost]

all debt other than secured debt (ie. you specifically sign over ownership of some THING), is wiped out on death in the uk

[hollow coral]

cappucino is what id drink if i wanted one even tho i hate the taste

[winged spire]

No I mean like the specific coffee beans

[hollow coral]

oh

[winged spire]

The climate their grown in has a massive impact on taste

[hollow coral]

hmm

ive tried many coffess tbf, all tastes the same to me

[fossil frost]

you tried the civet shit coffee?

[hollow coral]

like all cappucinos tasted the same, all lattes and all mochas

[fossil frost]

you have only tried crap coffee then

[vapid smelt]

i take healthy methylphenidate so i have no need for coffee

[hollow coral]

no, ive tried coffee from top cafes and shit

[dusky glade]

Okay yes, So same in america BESIDES student loan debt is basically the only transferrable debt. Cause you're making it seem like IE. If Dad A buy house, Dad died, Son A wants to own that house, to do so Son A can take control of that mortgage, but isn't forced, cause cosigning sounds equvalent to secured debts fundamentally but I could be wrong.

[fossil frost]

doesnt matter where you bought it from, shit coffee can be sold in the best places

[winged spire]

Like for example, coffee grown on islands tends to naturally be sweeter and less acidic

[hollow coral]

i drink the most healthy monster

[hollow coral]

well everyone who gets coffee from the certain cafes i got it from always praise it

i just hate coffee lol

[fossil frost]

i read that as "healthy methamphetamine" at first 😄

[fossil frost]

tbh, sounds like a scam run by the student loan companies, who can afford to buy politicians to allow them to do that

[dusky glade]

Yea it sucks to be frank. I know someone who died last year while attending his second year of college and it sucks to know that not only does his family need to mourn him, they need to financially recover from the expenses still

[fossil frost]

so glad i never had to bother with all that student loan crap 😄

[reef ice]

how do i open game filters with my nvdia card?

[supple pawn]

Student loans in America are a fucking racket.

[winged spire]

I think I’ve had 7? Cups of coffee today

[supple pawn]

Everything about school is, really.

[fossil frost]

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+do+i+open+game+filters+with+my+nvdia+card%3F&oq=how+do+i+open+game+filters+with+my+nvdia+card

[reef ice]

mmmm no

[hollow coral]

i just got beans on toast

[hollow coral]

fym no?

[winged spire]

I know a girl who’s like ADHD hyperfocused on China and she plans to finish school then just go MIA to China without paying them back lmao

[hollow coral]

they sent a google search for what you want?

[fossil frost]

if you are too lazy to read for yourself, we are too lazy to do it for you 🙂

[winged spire]

It’s uh.. quite the plan

[supple pawn]

Lol might as well. Fuck the loan companies, and fuck the schools.

[vapid smelt]

just file for bankruptcy 😛

[obsidian oracle]

i love it when public chat becomes boring-real-life-related-topic chat

[winged spire]

I mean if you don’t wanna buy a house ever sure

[manic torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/i-declare-bakruptcy-bankrupt-yelling-announce-declare-gif-15663557

[reef ice]

i js dont trust random links

[hollow coral]

ITS A GOOGLE SEARCH

[supple pawn]

Also it takes a special case for it to be waved in bankruptcy, it's not like a credit card.

[fossil frost]

or do what i did... be born earlier, stumble into tech, not need a degree, and earn more than everyone around you who DID get a degree, and be somewhere near the top of the field by today

[manic torrent]

... where do you think we are getting the information from

[fossil frost]

its google...

[vapid smelt]

its not like our generation has a chance anyway

[obsidian oracle]

lolololol

[hollow coral]

bro doesnt trust google, fs a bing user

hold on guys i got this

[manic torrent]

essential things not listed: being good

[winged spire]

Renting for life 😎😎😎

I just gotta marry an old lady and keep the house fr

[pliant karma]

0.5x of the miot I see. Unless it is not 0.5x

[hollow coral]

https://www.bing.com/search?q=how+to+enable+nvidia+filters&qs=LT&pq=how+to+enable+nvidia+filters&sc=10-28&cvid=ECF6D0B74A1247A4993C49ED148349CA&FORM=QBLH&sp=1&ghc=1&lq=0

there we go, bing search

[fossil frost]

tbh, the essential thing was being born in the 80s and growing up in the 90s 😄

[winged spire]

Don’t go shitting on bing now

[obsidian oracle]

idk not my pic, still a cute miot, woul-

[pliant karma]

ah

[hollow coral]

bing is dookie man

[winged spire]

Those Microsoft rewards points got me a 2tb SSD

I’m not allowed to shit on bing

[hollow coral]

😭

crazy

is the ssd any good tho

[winged spire]

Yeah it’s a Samsung 980 2tb

[supple pawn]

As I understand it, college attendance has been steadily declining anyway. Soon people will be calling new generations lazy for not going to college lol

[fossil frost]

bing likes it.. its their "thing"... they want you to do it

[hollow coral]

damn

[vapid smelt]

hey those headlights can kill people!

[winged spire]

Interesting… graduate is going up?

[pliant karma]

lol I've been dabling with fisheye and 0.5x for fun. Quirky pics but some fun contact photos for my friends

[winged spire]

That’s cool

[hollow coral]

they have a certain kink

[obsidian oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/975143120759042079.png?size=160&name=neco+arc+celebrate

[obsidian oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1288448714075279463.png?size=160&name=confused+miata

so can i, does this make me a bad thing to exist

[winged spire]

Pedestrian safety is less important than how cool popup headlights are

[obsidian oracle]

(ik ur not serious)

[hollow coral]

real

[obsidian oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/861000217767837736.png?size=160&name=Masha+Thumbs+Up

[hollow coral]

nah he is, they look so cool they make ppl get hit

[winged spire]

I really wanna EV swap an old Miata

[hollow coral]

...

[winged spire]

Give it like 800EVHP

[hollow coral]

you are now shunned from cars

[supple pawn]

For now yes. If graduate falls, there will be a delay until a while after undergrad falls. The new graduate attendees are departing undergrad, the people who enrolled at the peak of undergrad enroll for graduate school well after.

[winged spire]

In a smol little Miata… 1.0 second 0-60

[obsidian oracle]

yea everyone get lost in them and forget to move away frfr

[obsidian oracle]

based

[hollow coral]

listen, ev swapping any car is a sin BUT A MIOT?

[obsidian oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1266059561509326928.gif?size=160&name=ibuki+eating+the+screen

[winged spire]

It’s not like Miata’s are particularly rare lol

[obsidian oracle]

lmfaoooo

[hollow coral]

thats not the point...

the engines in them are sacred

[winged spire]

There are Miata shitboxes in every single scrap yard in the country

[winged spire]

Then I’ll sell you the one I’m taking out lol

[hollow coral]

or you keep it in and turbo it

[fossil frost]

my dad and i plan on getting an old mini cooper, and sticking a 15hp electric winch motor in it, but feeding it through the gearbox.. and loading where the back seats used to be, with batteries... it SHOULD have about the same, if not better performance, than when it was new with a petrol engine 😄

[obsidian oracle]

its just a random i4 1.6 and 1.8

[hollow coral]

random...

[obsidian oracle]

yeah nothing special besides it being in a miata

[hollow coral]

yea you guys arent car enthusiasts 💔

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRnFzklXi4o

[hollow coral]

ev owners need some help man

[obsidian oracle]

youre saying that to a person that has this many hours on fh5 alone

[hollow coral]

i have like 4k on fh2 and 3k on fh3 🙏

console tho cos i didnt have pc then

[manic torrent]

gatekeeping car enthusiast, eyyyyy

[obsidian oracle]

so, watch ur words, boy

[fossil frost]

essentially that.. but.. the old 1970s one that he was told he wasnt allowed to do 😄

[hollow coral]

no its just how can someone love cars and not understand how sacred a miot is

am race

[vapid smelt]

as a cooper i wanted a mini cooper then learned bmw owns it

[pliant karma]

damn not even close to you but like 1/4 of the way there with 512 hours.

[obsidian oracle]

its not about the miot, its about the engine in it

[obsidian oracle]

thatd be 2/5 if any

[manic torrent]

what, an LS?

[hollow coral]

that engine is what make miot special

[obsidian oracle]

no just a random i4, im not the one saying its sacred

[obsidian oracle]

hell nah bruh

[manic torrent]

if miata had a 5cyl, that would be epic.

[obsidian oracle]

its number 1 as weight and 2 as pop up

[obsidian oracle]

heck yeah

[obsidian oracle]

ah well, 2 as open roof and 3 as pop up more like

[hollow coral]

infinitely better than ev swapping 😭

[pliant karma]

any new updates on that monitor arm crane bob?

[winged spire]

A well done EV swapped Miata will objectively be a better drivetrain then anything you can do to the stock engine lol

[manic torrent]

Did you see the video?

[hollow coral]

and the car loses all its character from the engine sound

[pliant karma]

not that I know of I can look for it lol

[winged spire]

It’s a Miata lol it’s got enough character.. especially when given a 1 second 0-60 lol

[obsidian oracle]

than* yeah but thats just dependant on the driver's preference

[hollow coral]

combustion engine is so much better man

[hollow coral]

and how you stopping the wheels from spinning the whole way?

[winged spire]

A 1000lbs battery pack usually does a pretty good job

[obsidian oracle]

✨ traction control ✨

[winged spire]

Maybe give it some fatter tires which I’d probably do anyway

[manic torrent]

like this

[hollow coral]

traction control is NOT that good lmao

[obsidian oracle]

it is when u have electric engine that controls itself thousands of times a second

[pliant karma]

now I have some ideas haha. flipping the monitor from landscape to portrait mode with a button haha.

[hollow coral]

any car will spin the wheels even with traction control

[fossil frost]

doesnt that do 0-100 in less than 1 second?

[hollow coral]

even electric cars spin the wheels

[obsidian oracle]

its not any car when u have electric drivetrain, dont confuse evs with non-evs

[obsidian oracle]

duh, so?