public-chat

[harsh cloak]

So I don't think price is the issue here

[edgy sun]

Not enough of it to matter on ssd random read and write?

[manic torrent]

Not the right question to ask.

[vapid smelt]

64 vs 94

[manic torrent]

Your GPU is not PCIe 5.0

[gaunt bloom]

teamgroup mp44q is a good value

[harsh cloak]

On the MSI meg godlike it has lane sharing between it's two PCIe slots. Putting anything in the other would bump the GPU down to 8 lanesn

[manic torrent]

also, you ONLY take that hit if it's a PCIE 5.0 SSD, why would you need that

[gaunt bloom]

although has no dram cache its still fast

[manic torrent]

also it's ONLY in one slot... just put your SSD in a different slot

[harsh cloak]

The SSDs don't have any lane sharing It's only the two PCIE slots like where a GPU would go

[edgy sun]

Yeah teamgroup somebody revealed to me on this disc actually

[harsh cloak]

The board comes with an attachment to put in the other 16 slot pcie 5.0 slot That I can put two more m.2s in so the board supports 7 m.2s

I was trying to find out if I did actually use that how much performance loss would I get from let's say a 5090 in the other slot going from 16 lanes down to 8

[edgy sun]

More decent than crucial n kingston n sht for the price. Last two m2 ssd i got was teamgroup

[gaunt bloom]

teamgroup ssds are so cheap and have the best performance

for the price at least

for $51 for the mp44q 1 tb all the drives at the same price are gen 3 or half the speed

[manic torrent]

gamers nexus tested it a while back, you will get SOME reduction, but it will likely be a few percent. I don't understand why you need a bazillion m.2 drives though

[edgy sun]

Id triple check your chipset/cpu has room for two nvme ssd and a gpu though

[harsh cloak]

MSI Meg x870e Godlike only has Lane sharing between the two PCIE 5.0 16 slots
None of the m.2 slots which it has five of have any lane sharing

If I wanted more storage in the future it's a lot easier to just pop that in with two more M.2 slots

[manic torrent]

if you wanted MORE THAN FIVE m.2

[harsh cloak]

I saw gamers Nexus video but it was PCIe 3

[manic torrent]

PCIe gen 3 x16 == PCIe gen 4 x8

[gaunt bloom]

an ssd takes up so little bandwidth it wont make a difference

[harsh cloak]

The board itself splits the PCIe Lanes in half when you plug anything in there which is why I was asking how much of a real world performance difference would I see from the GPU

[manic torrent]

the bandwidth used is irrelevant, it's the lanes

[harsh cloak]

I can't put any pictures in this channel or I would highlight what I'm talking about

[manic torrent]

you would see SOME. possibly detectable.

[gaunt bloom]

even the fastest ssds wouldnt have that big of a performance drop

[manic torrent]

which is why you would be insane to do it.

[gaunt bloom]

and if they did it would still be very very fast

[manic torrent]

That's not what is being discussed even remotely

[harsh cloak]

https://youtu.be/bMYCo08g0bw?si=ofhL-tHStTsjnjEa

[harsh cloak]

It has nothing to do with the SSD at all

[gaunt bloom]

???

[harsh cloak]

If you plug in a device to both pcie 16 slots

Then they get reduced from 16 lanes to only eight because the chipset only has 16 lanes going to both of them in total

[manic torrent]

talking about GPU PCIe lanes/speed

[gaunt bloom]

oh

[harsh cloak]

This shows the connections

It's a 1 minute video

[manic torrent]

But lets be clear, you are talking about a THEORETICAL future, where you want MORE THAN FIVE m.2 drives.

[edgy sun]

Honestly I still dont even fully understand all that sht. Like even if my ssd is plugged into the 'fastest' m2 slot. Then again maybe it doesnt make a diff

[harsh cloak]

Yes. But I'm also wanting to learn more about the technology and wanting to know what the real limits are right now. Because I don't think we saw any true oversaturation with PCIe 4.0 if I remember correctly

[manic torrent]

no, like I said, single digit percent impacts

[harsh cloak]

The godlike has 2 5.0 m.2 slots rest are 4.0 slots

Like up to 9% difference?

Or do you only think 1-3% with PCIe 5.0

[manic torrent]

There is no PCIe 5.0 GPUs

[harsh cloak]

50 series is

[edgy sun]

And also my GPU is plugged into the one fastest slot I know... but it's pcie4 card in pcie3

[manic torrent]

in which case, yes, 8 lanes is MORE than enough for anything, ever

I would expect margin-of-error differences

[harsh cloak]

So I basically won't notice a difference except like 1-2% at the most probably?

[manic torrent]

you won't ever notice a difference

[harsh cloak]

Okay thank you!

[manic torrent]

when you decide you want MORE THAN FIVE fucking m.2s

[harsh cloak]

Lmao

[gaunt bloom]

couldnt you just use a pcie to m2 adapter?

[manic torrent]

that is literally what the discussion is about

[harsh cloak]

That's what the board comes with....

[gaunt bloom]

im so braindead

[harsh cloak]

PCIe to m.2 adaptor that can cool 2 m.2s

[gaunt bloom]

i have had used godlike series motherboards but they never came with the adapter

[harsh cloak]

I've been starting to record my gameplay lately and video edit a little bit for one of my friends so the 4tb I have now filled up extremely fast

[manic torrent]

Meanwhile I am using m.2 to pcie adapters for my network card

[edgy sun]

Actually can not having full pcie connection for modern GPU actually have significant effect but only on certain things? Like I have pcie4 card in 3 slot; even has rebar support. But rebar we benched loosely and looks like it makes perf worse

[vapid smelt]

and if you do ever need more ssd space

[harsh cloak]

Jesus Christ

[gaunt bloom]

imagine how hot the controller on that contraption would be

[harsh cloak]

I didn't even know that existed holy crap

[edgy sun]

If anything the max frame time increased and it added stuttering

[gaunt bloom]

that tiny heatsink wont do a lot

[manic torrent]

.... the same as any other pcie switch/chipset?

[vapid smelt]

they make cheap 20ish dollars ones for a few drives to big boys like that for big money

[harsh cloak]

I think after 7 m.2 I'll be okay I can grab some 20tb HDD after that for 200-250

[gaunt bloom]

it has to handle 8 m2 ssds

i dont know what speed each one could be running at

[manic torrent]

It is a pcie switch.

[harsh cloak]

The case that I grabbed has room in the dual chamber part of the case for four 3.5 in hdds. An across the rest of the case I have enough room for 13 in total

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC03p4j_5Yc do you not watch ltt?!

[harsh cloak]

With the amount of games I play alone I could easily fill up 6TB

[edgy sun]

Bro no normal mobo will handle 8 m2 ssds easily. It wont even have 8 slots

[harsh cloak]

It's not the main channel I watch

I was going to go for the 9950x3d but 9800x3d will be fast enough for what I'm doing rn

[edgy sun]

Try seeing if you can maybe get way cheaper sata ssds like 1x4tb or 2x2tb

[harsh cloak]

I have my current CPU in my laptop an i7 11800h locked to never go above 3500 GHz. Because anytime it does it starts to repeatedly freeze and crash like all the time. And I have my mobile 3080 also power limited.

[edgy sun]

And maybe nvme ssd for system and the rest 2tb

[harsh cloak]

I can get a 20tb Seagate for like 250

[edgy sun]

ssd? that has to be hdd you're looking at lol

[gaunt bloom]

was about to say the same

4 tb nvme is way cheaper than i remember

[vapid smelt]

ew a hdd in 2025?!

[gaunt bloom]

all around $200

[harsh cloak]

Show me where you can get a 20tb SSD for 250 bucks

[edgy sun]

Im just saying definitely if youre thinking 6tb total or more you probably want to split into at least 2 drives

[harsh cloak]

My friend that I'm editing videos for is doing all of his stuff in 4K rn. That takes up a lot of space really fast I don't make a lot of money I've been saving over 8 months to build the system I want right now

[gaunt bloom]

we kinda assumed you were talking about ssds when you replied to a message referencing ssds

[vapid smelt]

https://www.cdw.com/product/seagate-nytro-3350-xs15360se70045-ssd-scaled-endurance-15.36-tb-sas/7325360

[edgy sun]

But for the non system one im saying consider not even nvme

[prisma barn]

what temperature should i limit my 3060ti to? 80 C?

its at 82C rn and i feel that is a bit too high

[harsh cloak]

That's 4,600

[vapid smelt]

95c is max i think

[edgy sun]

For games easily any ssd good enough

As long as it's not hdd

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zxVmP6/mushkin-source-hc-16-tb-25-solid-state-drive-mknssdhc16tb 2.5k better?

[gaunt bloom]

are you using msi afterburner?

[slender marsh]

imagine if startisback++ works on Windows 11

[harsh cloak]

I only make 30k a year I can't afford thousands in storage like that

[gaunt bloom]

if you are then 83c might be your set max and the card might start reducing performance after 83 c

[edgy sun]

For system also running on it yeah m2 nvme

[prisma barn]

yea, my fans arent going above 60% though even on auto...

[harsh cloak]

That was part of my initial question as to why I asked it because if I could just slap on a couple more NVMEs I could get another couple terabytes for 100-200 bucks instead of thousands and have it fast still

[edgy sun]

82 is ok temp for gpu under heavy load

[gaunt bloom]

make sure your max temperature slider is all the way up

[edgy sun]

Especially overclocked

[harsh cloak]

If your GPU itself is at 83°, what is your hotspot at?

[gaunt bloom]

at 83 itll throttle and 82 is safe

[harsh cloak]

When my laptop GPU Is sitting at 82 to 83 it's hotspot is close to 100

[prisma barn]

idk on task manager it says 81 C

[harsh cloak]

Get GPUZ

That will show you hotspot temp

[prisma barn]

my fan speed on MSI afterburner is sticking to 60-61% though

okk ill get that

[gaunt bloom]

i remember i bought an rtx 2070 and half the die wasnt covered

[harsh cloak]

If you're able to increase the fan speed within their normal ratings and that helps lower your GPU temps I would say do that

[gaunt bloom]

hotspots were easily over 100

[harsh cloak]

Yeah that's kind of what killed my laptop

[prisma barn]

yea i took it off auto and put it to 85% speed

[gaunt bloom]

i keep seeing amd cards having issues hot gpu temps and hotspot temps

[harsh cloak]

I never replaced my thermal paste so after 3 years of heavy gaming it was completely dried up and not really doing its job and my GPU was easily hitting 110-120 hotspot

[gaunt bloom]

😭

[prisma barn]

this 3060ti is a few years old though, i just broguht it over from my old prebuilt

[gaunt bloom]

you should clean it out and replace the thermal paste

[harsh cloak]

With non hotspot in the high 90s

In the same games now after repasting everything the hotspot doesn't even go over 70

[prisma barn]

meh im gonna get a new gpu in a few months anyway so its probably fine

[gaunt bloom]

people who say clean stuff out and replace the thermal paste sounds like a broken record but its so true

[prisma barn]

itll be the next persons problem hehe

[harsh cloak]

I can't imagine what the hotspot was then with my current games that still push my GPU into about 80-85 with hotspot at 95

[harsh cloak]

I didn't and now I'm being forced to build a new computer I want it to build a computer anyways because I've never built one but I would have just ended up saving my money if my laptop wasn't dying

[gaunt bloom]

damn

[harsh cloak]

I7 11 800H
3200 Mt/s ram ddr4
Mobile RTX 3080

[vapid smelt]

ew you bought a laptop

[harsh cloak]

I got it in 2021

[gaunt bloom]

shut up poopy head

[random folio]

Anyone know what this is? It's out of a target security tag, looks like a magnetic generator type thing???

[harsh cloak]

Guess why. .-.

[gaunt bloom]

laptops are fine

[harsh cloak]

There was no way I was going to pay over $2,000 for an RTX 3080

[edgy sun]

Did they recently change cards to make settings with temp targets or something

[prisma barn]

maybe i should un-overclock my gpu then if its getting to 82 degrees at 80% load

[gaunt bloom]

just reminded me

[harsh cloak]

Considering I got this laptop for $1499

[gaunt bloom]

I got a laptop with a 4800h and 2060 for $637

[harsh cloak]

You couldn't even match that with MSRP very easily

[gaunt bloom]

Best purchase in 2021

[prisma barn]

oops i didnt click apply when i bumped the fan speed up lol

[harsh cloak]

It was on sale at Best buy

Aorus gigabyte 15p yd

[edgy sun]

Because at one point it was as simple as power target slider max and that's all basically lol

[gaunt bloom]

For a 3080 and 11800 I’d expect Liquid Metal

[harsh cloak]

Yeah it didn't have liquid metal

[vapid smelt]

you missed out

[harsh cloak]

It was normal paste

[gaunt bloom]

cheap manufacturing

[harsh cloak]

Considering that did not exist in 2021?

[vapid smelt]

no right now

[harsh cloak]

What am I missing out on?

[harsh cloak]

That won't perform better than what I have if it was working correctly

[gaunt bloom]

Those listings are discontinued laptops or no longer stocked

[vapid smelt]

do i need a 98" tv for my bedroom

[edgy sun]

Vram you could usually oc like a few dozen MHz max; always failed unless I autodetected it. Same w gpu clock but you could squeeze out a bit more

[gaunt bloom]

ptm 7950 is better than Liquid Metal

[harsh cloak]

A '98 inch TV with crap picture quality and a low refresh rate

[gaunt bloom]

so glad that ltt has it

[harsh cloak]

I would never go that big without OLED there's no point

[vapid smelt]

its a nice mini led and i dont need a high refresh rate for movies

[harsh cloak]

If you're going to spend that much money might as well get something with the best picture quality

[zenith fox]

help 😟

[harsh cloak]

Wait 6 months. Get micro led. That will look the same as OLED without blacks being gray because of the backlights

[harsh cloak]

What's up

[zenith fox]

idk what screws i need to use to get the motherboard put in the case neither the case nor motherboard came with any 😭

[vapid smelt]

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/qm7-qm751g-qled

[prisma barn]

yea ummm i think the auto setting on my GPU fan is messed up

anyone know what causes that?

[harsh cloak]

You should be able to go on to Amazon and find a bag of motherboard standoff screws or contact The manufacturer of the case or motherboard as they usually are included in one of those and they could probably tell you exactly which ones you need or send you a bag of them They could also be pre-installed in the case if you haven't looked yet

[zenith fox]

the male standoff?

[prisma barn]

my gpu is at 33 degrees C and is at 85% fan and not moving

[zenith fox]

the female stand offs are installed in the case already

issue is idk which male ones to screw it down with

is it the 6 32 johns

[prisma barn]

oh my gosh guys im stupid i didnt hit apply after hitting auto

[manic torrent]

my GPU is at 0% fan

[prisma barn]

[grim belfry]

There are some very very niche circumstances where a “proper” certificate is required, for example the domain we use for our SBC needs to be “proper” for teams direct routing

[edgy sun]

Do custom curve and turn off anything with 'quiet' in the name

[manic torrent]

yeah, nobody wants a quiet PC

[edgy sun]

Heh. Maybe one day official google chrome distributable will axe lets encrypt root cert. Gg no re my server lol

[manic torrent]

you are an idiot of the highest order

[grim belfry]

I’d say like 75% of “the Internet” uses let’s encrypt certs

[edgy sun]

Well no but its a threshold in around or above 30C usually right? The thing is I always had idle as a result in even 40s. Then fan would turn on, cool it down until 0rpm again. But the card idled like 20C higher than if I just converged high 20s with a very low rpm

[manic torrent]

It would depend entirely on the specifics of the card/etc

Not to mention the case and the environment

[edgy sun]

That rpm was inaudible because quieter than cpu regardless. And the chip its entire life always running 20C minimum higher I feel could easily make tangible diff

Also fan spinning up from 0 repeatedly isn't that worse than just constant low rpm lol

For the fan lifespan

[zenith fox]

can i get advice on if i chose good parts for my pc build

[restive lion]

no shot lol

[grim belfry]

For sure

[restive lion]

maybe 30-40%

[harsh cloak]

You got a PC part picker list

[manic torrent]

it doesn't matter. it's significant

[grim belfry]

I was close

[zenith fox]

i can name them i dont have the list on pc part picker

[restive lion]

damn thats wild

[harsh cloak]

Sure shoot

[zenith fox]

i bought some of them already

[grim belfry]

It makes sense

[restive lion]

i guess im thinking more by traffic than by "sheer number of sites"

by number of sites ig it makes more sense

[zenith fox]

so the cpu 7600x the gpu is 7900xt i got uh cl30 6000mt 32 gigs ddr5 2tb samsung 990 pro ssd uhhh corsair 850 e psu and a frostflow aio 240 @harsh cloak

[edgy sun]

I guess... I think real problem is I don't recall the 0rpm ever being adjustable. And the manual control doesn't go down all the way. I could be wrong tho

[zenith fox]

im scared the cpu not good enough 🙏😭

[edgy sun]

Mine i feel like if I had option to keep it on but usually around like 28C or something, I'd do it

[manic torrent]

and tbh a HUGE amount of the rest are going to be AWS and cloudflare

[grim belfry]

Cloudflare uses lets encrypt, no?

For the 99% of their users that are on the free plan

[manic torrent]

do they? yeah still, you get my point, it would be providers/CDNs doing the SSL

[grim belfry]

Yep they use LE and pki.goog

[edgy sun]

Real question is if Google decided to remove Let's Encrypt from its browser, would you along with the other like 99.9999% of human traffic switch to at least another fork of Chromium lol

[harsh cloak]

Personally I wouldn't go with a 990 pro. I remember reading that there is a software issue with some of the Samsung drives that once it happens it makes the drive read only. Also a different user here in the chat posted a graph of different SSDs and how they perform under load and the Samsung ones were not really the best performers. I would probably have the CPU as a 7800x3d instead of the 7600xx as well. Other than that I don't really think any changes would need to be made.

But I know the 7,000 series does run quite hot so maybe go with a higher end cooler like a beefy air cooler or a better 360 AIO?

[edgy sun]

Is 'making the drive read only' even allowed lol

Or is that just i/o error

If the file system was mounted rw...

[hard oriole]

do you ever consider being a whistleblower when your employer pirates software

cause like- i aint an angel here....

[smoky badge]

no

[edgy sun]

Not immediately lmfao. Save it for a rainy day?

[vast bone]

no

[hard oriole]

i did report a LED wall Ad board once to Teamviewer lmao
the free version notification was just right on the LED wall

[vast bone]

you won't earn anything and you might get punished

[hard oriole]

it was up with the "buy teamviewer" popup for like 2 weeks

[edgy sun]

Oh wow so technically commercial license needed?

[hard oriole]

oh yeah they def dont make it free for commercial use, which is why linus bought the lifetime license and is mad they try to get him to spend more

[edgy sun]

But can you argue that mirroring display internally with it is separate from displaying the ad board which happens to have TeamViewer open full screen lmao

[hard oriole]

thats a lawyers job

or, a team of them in this case

[edgy sun]

I mean its remote access/viewer tool. Idk whatever I feel like it either would or wouldn't hold up in court lmfao

[hard oriole]

but i can def see the argument they would make

[hard oriole]

if there is a jury adjudicating it i think they would see it as an infringment of the TOS

[edgy sun]

What about monetized videos on youtube with watermark of that infamous free recording tool i forget its name

[vast bone]

bandicam

[vapid smelt]

we should all kiss

[edgy sun]

Or regardless of monetizing video, youtube is commercializing views regardless with ads or something. But between you and google you could even have non commercial agreement

[vast bone]

https://tenor.com/view/real-and-true-cat-walking-gray-cat-gif-14865986020845776272

he's getting closer to kiss you.

[hard oriole]

companies arent exactly held to the same standard an individual is, especially if its a comapany with money

[edgy sun]

Yeah tht is true

[hard oriole]

If a company is held to a jury to the TOS of Teamviewer there is a higher standard that someone in the company, or contracted by, at least, read that TOS

the bigger the company the higher that standard rises.
working for a 100 employee company and using a work email for a service most dont might not hurt
but when you hit 200,000 employees or near it-

[plush sun]

hi

[vast bone]

hello

[winged spire]

Thermal take didn’t activate windows for their fucking CES Booth PCs lol

[hard oriole]

whatever comapny i works for doesnt have a macrium commercial license

windows is legit, reimaging software aint

[glad dagger]

guys dont u just love swithcing between mac and windows and everything being diffrent like i was just trying to close my browser on my pc and i was like where tf is my x button then i remembered oh its a pc

[vapid smelt]

can we ban the mac user

[patent violet]

Its kinda sad to see this because it shows a common degradation to operations. About 15 years ago these were the kinds of things you would have in your checklist and actually pay attention to because details matter

[pliant karma]

want panda to execute that order hehe

[long briar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD6zU_4LZQA
Chat I'm straight but I want

that mousepad is actually fire

[vapid smelt]

[winged spire]

Starship has broken the record for tallest spaceship ever for the 3rd time lol

[idle nymph]

im not straight yet i want that too

[neat gull]

New shirt I need to buy

[smoky badge]

Your mom

[keen sequoia]

buy 2 i am coming over 🔥

[idle nymph]

no yours

[pliant steppe]

Whats goodie

[smoky badge]

Nuh uh

[pliant steppe]

Yuh huh

Its both of yours

You’re siblings

And im the father

[neat gull]

This is how massive the low taper fade meme is

[summer folio]

YouTubers who upload in 720p+@60fps are the worst. Forcing me to use more power/data if I want higher quality than 480p? lmao

[vapid smelt]

your ego?

[pliant steppe]

You know what else is massive?

Oh hey coopa

[idle nymph]

yuh uh

[idle nymph]

cheese

[pliant steppe]

Why doesnt E exist in emojis

[smoky badge]

Oh it’s you

[idle nymph]

E

[idle nymph]

it is me

[smoky badge]

🇪

[neat gull]

Do tell

[pliant steppe]

It is I*

Not “me” get it right

[neat gull]

[pliant steppe]

Your mother

[neat gull]

Ohhhhhhhh snap

[idle nymph]

blows up with mind

[summer folio]

Hope you're getting a 16GB version of the Raspberry Pi 5
https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/16gb-raspberry-pi-5-on-sale-now-at-120/

[manic torrent]

why? 8gb is heaps

[modern marsh]

bob

[winged spire]

I met Stevie wonder today

Idk why he was at CES but he was inside the Panasonic booth

[modern marsh]

he wanted a 5090 sir

[gilded quest]

Nice
The only famous person I have met is Steve Wozniak

[tribal rivet]

Hi everyone

[winged spire]

Oh that’s cool

The woz is goatee

[gilded quest]

I didn't know who he was at the time lmao

[modern marsh]

my yt is on smth

[covert cradle]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC_circuit

[winged spire]

We at the canyon fr fr

[random folio]

My man 💪

[modern marsh]

e

[pliant steppe]

W

[winged spire]

I hope I brought my speaker

I’m gonna chill at the edge fr

[rocky epoch]

Hoe ysll dounh

How

Yall

Doing

Lol I messed up everything

[obsidian oracle]

lool

[summer folio]

I know, just wanted to post the news of 16GB Raspberry Pi 5 for sell now

[manic torrent]

I mean, it's very cool, there's a bunch of use cases, particularly using it as a desktop

[idle nymph]

please dont use a speaker in public half of the time no one want to hear your music 🔥

[winged spire]

It’s 3 am in a national park lmao

There’s literally nobody here

In fact there’s nothing here

I’ve never heard a place so quiet before

No bugs no birds no howling

Dead silence

[idle nymph]

then enjoy the silence 🔥

[winged spire]

I didn’t ask for judgment lol

[manic torrent]

First day on the internet?

[weak sonnet]

too late, you're getting it

[winged spire]

I’m rooting for you pal!

[winged spire]

😭😭 rip

[idle nymph]

youre still getting some 🔥

[winged spire]

I’m lying down on a BLAHAJ this very moment

😳

[idle nymph]

all your sins are forgiven

[winged spire]

I need gloves

[modern marsh]

hewo

aquaticscp wsp again

[winged spire]

Yo

[modern marsh]

strange you are always online when ever i come

i found a way to not fail this year
if i study 9 hours a day i can WIN

[winged spire]

I’m in your walls

[winged spire]

W

[modern marsh]

my walls are thick

[winged spire]

German walls ?

The Germans love bragging about their brick walls

[modern marsh]

lol yeh

brick walls unlike usa

[winged spire]

LMAO I guessed it ?

[modern marsh]

i heard most usa homes 's walls can be punched through easily

[idle nymph]

every europeans< do ngl

[modern marsh]

what part of the world does Egypt count as

[winged spire]

The only think I wish American houses had was the tilt turn windows

[modern marsh]

middle east or Africia

[winged spire]

Both

[modern marsh]

people donate to me i need bohoo of water

[idle nymph]

north of africa ngl (also middle east)

[modern marsh]

how do i escape egypt

[winged spire]

Plane

[modern marsh]

i love our president as much as the hair on his fore head

[modern marsh]

i cant make a visa

[winged spire]

Bro got a billboard god damn

[modern marsh]

fr

[winged spire]

Anywhere?

[modern marsh]

no

[idle nymph]

plane

[modern marsh]

you need a good reason

[winged spire]

Surely the Egyptian passport has some countries you can go to without a visa

That’s annoying

[modern marsh]

i found 2 ways
1- is studying abroad with a scholar ship
2- is making a job contract with a company aborad

abroad

[winged spire]

Yeah get an H1B visa or something

[vapid zephyr]

A lot of Egyptians 'escaped' by buying citizenships in Saint Kitts and Nevis, but afaik Egypt has started to block people from making those donations

[modern marsh]

wanna know something funny
they placed 40% taxes on phones coming outside egypt
for it 's sim to work

[idle nymph]

good luck bro

[modern marsh]

yeh I know
and im not that rich
all i have is trying get a scholarship outside egypt

[idle nymph]

is egypt really that shit

[modern marsh]

yes

average pay is 5k egp
and house cost start from 800k egp

[harsh cloak]

Egypt has like 20 times higher inflation then the US

[modern marsh]

more

[vapid zephyr]

Pretty much, yes
Most Egyptians also live in the densest city in the world, so

[harsh cloak]

Sorry 20 times per year lol

[idle nymph]

well good luck mate, can only wish you the best

[modern marsh]

yes

[modern marsh]

ay i found germany accepting students

[kindred seal]

Any budget phone for 70$ approx?

[modern marsh]

so im trying get in there

[modern marsh]

nokia

[vapid zephyr]

The inflation rate of Egypt is about 8 times higher than the USes

[kindred seal]

Everything tech in egypt is expensive bro, I've been there, I am talking about normal prices

[modern marsh]

is an average monthly pay of 5k egp
and average home prices of 800k seems fair

[modern marsh]

xd my rtx 4060 cost there 17k egp

340$ usd

and ryzen 5 5600x cost 8k egp

160$ usd

[vapid zephyr]

?

[modern marsh]

the average pay here is 5k egp monthly.

decent home prices and not that decent start from 700k to a million or more

[winged spire]

Average American salary is like 55k USD

Annually

[modern marsh]

yearly?

annually

[vapid zephyr]

The average annual salary in Egpy is 150k, which would be well over 13,000 EGP per month

[modern marsh]

lies

[vapid zephyr]

Ofc

[vapid zephyr]

Even the lowest search result I can find says 9,200 EGP

[modern marsh]

my brother gets 6k monthly and he is a doctor fu nfact

[winged spire]

5000/mo is 60,000

[modern marsh]

fun fact[

no country would show how poor it is online

everything and numbers on internet is a lie.

[vast bone]

is he a vet or chiropractor

[modern marsh]

guess

[vapid zephyr]

?
Yes, it doesn't
And yes, some countries do show how poor they are online kek

[modern marsh]

yes

my COUNTRY TRies to hide it to a certain degree

they only develop some areas for the rich and tourists

[modern marsh]

neurologist

had to translate the world from arabic

[vapid zephyr]

There we go, a good source

The average weekly salary of Egyptians in the private sector is about 950 EGP per week

[modern marsh]

here we go

[vapid zephyr]

In the public sector, so if you are an official, it's about three times higher

[modern marsh]

nope

[vapid zephyr]

Yes

[modern marsh]

my brother is working for public

not for his own what ever thing you call it

[fossil frost]

arent there only 2 really widely developed areas of egypt as a whole? the general Cairo area, and sharm ?

[modern marsh]

yes

[vapid zephyr]

Who owns the hospital

[modern marsh]

not hospital

[vapid zephyr]

Who owns the company then

[modern marsh]

not a company

its small for 1 doctor

[vapid zephyr]

Yes a company, jfc

[modern marsh]

clinic

[vapid zephyr]

There's always a company behind it, even if it's a clinic

[modern marsh]

nope

not in egypt sir

[fossil frost]

in the USA yes, not everywhere else

[vapid zephyr]

Yes, the difference is if that company is privately owned or not

[modern marsh]

nope

not in egypt my good sir

that is only in OP big clinic that are being sponsored by suppliers for medicine

that only exist in deveolped areas

[fossil frost]

not in the UK, clinics/hospitals/doctors offices, are all effectively owned/run by charities (other than the odd few fully private doctors)

[vapid zephyr]

Yes in egypt
Private healthcare does operate in Egypt and the largest of them is Cleopatra Hospitals Group

[modern marsh]

fun fact no one go there

[vapid zephyr]

That's what you think

[modern marsh]

im talking about average

you are giving in an example in 1 developed area

you are checking the 1 or 2 devolped areas.

[vapid zephyr]

So is the hospital owned by a private healthcare provider or owned by the state

[modern marsh]

it exist but not most

[vapid zephyr]

Because if it's privately owned no shit he's not getting paid shit

[fossil frost]

or a charity

[modern marsh]

like i said big ones

[modern marsh]

LMAO privately paid ones earn more my good sir

public ones are mostly cheap bad health care in egypt

[vapid zephyr]

I can't find a single source that supports that claim and I'm not gonna believe 'trust me bro'

[modern marsh]

you are not gonna find a single source

that says in every street of america you can get shoot in the head

trusted source

[fossil frost]

the practice/clinic, can also be "privately owned" by the individual doctor, but thats usually described as "independantly owned"

[modern marsh]

yes bizzehdee is right

that is for 99.9% here

the big companies you talking about are rare

OK lets go by you and me
average salary is 8k fun fact

and its not true

[fossil frost]

"average" is a terrible word... since it can mean several things... are we talking mean or median salary

[modern marsh]

here you go

software enginers barely earn 10k egp per month

and this guy telling me average of a worker here is 15k

those big guys who earn good are not working for egypt

[vapid zephyr]

That's still well above double what you stated

[modern marsh]

but online for foreign countries

that is for good pay my good sir not worker

you cant say average pay in a country is a software engineer 's pay

a software enginer's pay is not AVERage at all

[fossil frost]

again, "average" can mean anything... and usually does not take into account the unemployment rate, and that most egyptian households are single earner households

[modern marsh]

100k egp per month is not the average PAY here
its average for software enginers
Not for egypt

you gonna tell me a normal worker earn as much as a software enginer?

that is 100k per year?

8.3k per month for software engineers

[vapid zephyr]

I never said that
I explicitly stated that public sector and private sector (aka most people) earn vastly different salaries

Idfk why you're putting shit in my mouth I never said

[modern marsh]

ok

ima go with you and prove you also wrong

how much do you want the average salary here

you said 15k above right?

[vapid zephyr]

No lol

[modern marsh]

average house cost here 800k above
how you gonna afford it.

[fossil frost]

which is true practically everywhere, private generally earns much more than public for the same job

[modern marsh]

kazuma ya said i think 13k or 15k smth like that is average

[fossil frost]

the numbers dont matter, the specific statement of "the same job in private, earns more than in public" is true... everywhere, not just egypt... everywhere

[dusk forge]

You are now manual breath.

[modern marsh]

even if the pay is triple what i said
you still cant afford it

yo bizzehdee lets just treat it as 15k per month(which is impossible )

a home cost 800k

which is about years of working

[vapid zephyr]

I literally didn't lmfao
I corrected that after checking a normal source

[modern marsh]

and that is a home not buying the items inside home like a bed or tv

[modern marsh]

oh my bad

anyway my country is like this because of how the president treat some areas

99% of egypt 's part is pay is minium and trash and barely afford to live a month

while the 1% are for the rich and rich who are millionares

which is very bad to do

[vapid zephyr]

Other sources said 9200 EGP, clearly per month, which is clearly the public sector

[modern marsh]

for a doctor that has worked for 5 years yes

or 4 years yes that is the pay

[vapid zephyr]

Articles being articles, they never state those kinda details

[modern marsh]

4 years of experience to get 9k? seems awful to me

[modern marsh]

ya know they get suied

XD a police officer are greating treated badly
they take bribes alot here

if he dont he cant feed his family

well egypt is nice to live in by 1 thing

[dusk forge]

Hey everyone, you are now manually breathing

[modern marsh]

if you are getting paid by dollar

[modern marsh]

no i refuse

oxygen is a poisen to the brain

poison

[vapid zephyr]

You can't breathe for shit in Cairo anyway

[modern marsh]

lol we in debt of 170 Billion that is gonna increase by 30% each year

[fossil frost]

security guard at the hotel i stayed at when i went to egypt, was trying to learn english, and saving every penny he could get, to move to the UK, to work in security in the uk.... because the same job, just sitting there in a hotel, making sure people who shouldnt be there, are not there... gets him paid 10x as much.... so on 2 of the 7 nights we were there, where we had nothing else on, i sat with him for a hour, helping him practice his conversational english... talking about football mostly 😄

[dusk forge]

Then i cast self aware of own thoughts

[modern marsh]

egypt is a hell

[modern marsh]

i listen to 852 hz audio i cant hear my own thoughts

[vapid zephyr]

It is quite crazy how some people earn more at a European McDonalds than some entry-level engineers do in the US

[modern marsh]

lol expert levels engineers here in egypt earn less than mcdonalds workers in usa or euroape or anywhere

the average pay is like 3k usd ? or how much

like minium

[vapid zephyr]

Tbf McDonalds is a bit of an outlier even in the US, they pay more on average than their competitors

[fossil frost]

hotel i was in, had a 10ft concrete wall all around it, and huge iron gates to let taxi/coaches in and out... on our way out to the airport on our last evening, it was JUST going dark... about 10 guys, wearing all black, black hoods, all waiting outside of the gates, just round the corner... no idea what they were waiting for, but it wasnt the coach i was on... i ASSUME, they were waiting for a car or someone to be on foot, or, they could have just been stood doing nothing... but if you see that in the uk, those people are about to be up to something they shouldnt 😄

[vapid zephyr]

Since they don't do the tipping salary shit, otherwise McDonalds workers in the US would earn about as much as someone in egypt

[fossil frost]

McDonalds also has one of the best manager training programs on the planet

[modern marsh]

dwag

[modern marsh]

they treat rich people like that

they would be waiting for a millionare or someone coming

like to welcome him

[fossil frost]

welcome... or "welcome" 😄

[modern marsh]

XD

sir gib us money sir sir gib us money

[fossil frost]

friendly welcome, or a stabby welcome?

[modern marsh]

no xd they fr do this shi bec some times they them money as their monthly pay

no friendly

they tip them about 2k egp some times which is half thier monthly pasy

pay

[vapid zephyr]

Quite hilarious for me to think about
I'm almost definitely overqualified to be a store manager and in the kitchen

Nobody is overqualified to be on the register

[fossil frost]

didnt know that, i tipped my security guard £20GBP on the last day, and the room cleaner £20 GBP too.. didnt think much about it at the time... only just thought to look at what it would actually be now, its around 1200 EGP

[modern marsh]

see he prob getting paid like 5k or 4k

and if that was a year ago or before it would be less pay

[fossil frost]

everything was included in the holiday that we paid for.. but we brought money "just in case we needed it"... and didnt need it, cleaner kept the room immaculate, and i liked the security guy. so they got a slice of what i had left over in my wallet

[wise tundra]

I know a person who made way more money at McDonald's than if she had worked in her own field (European)

[modern marsh]

capitalism fault xD

[fossil frost]

friends of mine are teachers, they would earn more being a shift manager at mcdonalds (uk)

thats not even store manager or general manager.. its effectively just team leader

[wise tundra]

She was some sort of professional in treating horses or something

[fossil frost]

tell her to move to the uk... horse people are paid quite well here

everything else will be terrible for her... but... she will get paid well 😄

[modern marsh]

xD

hm
should i go to germany or its also bad

im planning taking a scholar ship there then working there

or by putting a million egp in thier bank in a closed account for 4 years

which is my scholar ship time

that will earn my the citizen ship of germany

[fossil frost]

same as most places right now. there are good bits, there are some bad bits, and there are some super racist bits

[wise tundra]

Do you speak German?

[fossil frost]

also this... learn german, asap

[wise tundra]

If you don't know German you're not going to make it in Germany

[vast bone]

this is the "this powerbill is too high for what i use" ahh power plan

[fossil frost]

this is the "i take a moments thought to contemplate something, and my computer interrupts me by turning off" power plan

3 and 5 would be better, far fewer unintentional switch-offs

[vast bone]

yeah i actually set mine to 3 5

my brother loves to leave the computer on running beamng, so it uses lots of power and it isn't even being used

this should lower them powerbills this month

[modern marsh]

its my third language

learning it rn

they dont require also good german

they either need good german or english

[modern marsh]

wth xD 2 minsd

[modern marsh]

i know tho

its part of my study system for 3 years

in high school

[summer folio]

OLED life support option

[vast bone]

this is my dad's S20 it's so gone

[vast bone]

Commodore 64

[bitter harbor]

The one where the year it was designed approaches infinity

There will always be something better the next year

[vast bone]

how did commodore sell ~17 million 64s?

bruh what?

it's the first computer built for the masses

it's always changing, and there are many different computers for many different things

in a month or two 5090 with a 9950X3D/9800X3D

[modern marsh]

e

[bitter harbor]

Inaccurate, you need 3 5090s and you need to create your own dual socket motherboard to have 2 9800X3Ds

[vast bone]

oh yeah mb i'm sorry that was wrong

[modern marsh]

get a super computer for 20 million usd

there is no really the best computer
its about your money lol

[rustic tundra]

kids these days want the best but i didnt get the best when i was their age

[trim blade]

Is it worth overclocking rtx4070ti super

[hot tartan]

Eh, most people won't see that much of a gain in OCing 40 series cards

You can try, I think there is a guide in #overclocking

[trim blade]

Is it worth getting a new cup

CPU

[hot tartan]

What resolution do you play at

[trim blade]

1080p

Sometimes dsr 4k

It’s a really old cpu I got it second hand and then I instantly overcloked it to its limits

But I put it back to stock and saw some improvements

[hot tartan]

What game settings, and what FPS do you get?

[trim blade]

Dayz about 90 in dayz

Medium settings all anti analysing on max everything else on low

Aliaising

[hot tartan]

You can try cranking for higher settings see if that makes a difference

[trim blade]

I have tried ALL settings

4k slowed it down a little bit

[hot tartan]

I think you can also do DSR 1440p?

[trim blade]

I don’t think it’s the native one on my gpu

[hot tartan]

My recommendation would just be to try a 1440p monitor, that GPU is def more meant for 1440p ultra and 4k

[trim blade]

Do you think my monitor would affect fps?

No , right?

Just quality and refresh rate

Do you not think it’s worth getting a better cpu if mine is old and worn out

[hot tartan]

CPUs do not really "wear out" unless someone pumped ungodly amounts of voltage through them. A new cpu could help since you are on a 5700x, I would recommend 5700x3d if you plan to stay on 1080p.

But to me, it makes no sense to go from 5700 -> 5700x3d, I would try and upgrade to am5

[trim blade]

Then I have to get new motherboard

[hot tartan]

Yes

[trim blade]

Isn’t there a 5800x3d

Is that not good?

I also just bought this gpu new

[hot tartan]

5700X3D is essentially the same thing, just a little bit cheaper

[trim blade]

Ok

[hot tartan]

How much ram are you running?

[trim blade]

Or is it possible it’s a bottle neck

32gigs ddr4

[hot tartan]

2x16 or 4x8?

[trim blade]

4x8

[hot tartan]

Do you have EXPO or XMP enabled?

[trim blade]

I just did a bios reset with the battery so I think I have it off now

[hot tartan]

Turn that back on, then check perf

[trim blade]

Ok

Also

Is it worth getting a better monitor I have a 5 year old 165hz 1080p monitor

[hot tartan]

I personally would upgrade to 1440p with that GPU of yours

[trim blade]

But can’t I just use dsr

[hot tartan]

Yeah, but 1440p would still just look better on a native 1440p panel

[austere shale]

Man I love touching high voltage equipment

[hot tartan]

4070 Ti Super are cards meant for higher res

Sorry shitty SS, 1440p ultra on left, 4K ultra on right

Should have thought a little harder

[midnight pumice]

Just trolled another telemarketer

They got big mad. I found a way to use AI to screw with them pretty effectively

He reported me to the cops lol

[bitter harbor]

I play this for them they stay on the line for a bit and then hang up. https://youtu.be/90DxSaOKAKY?si=SMfg2FVwAI4q_7sc

[midnight pumice]

I will find their name, I will look them up on linkedin, Facebook, etc.. find the county they live in, go on their county property auditors site, find where they live and any other info I can

I used AI to edit a picture I pulled of their kid off Facebook to look like I took a picture of their kid leaving school

And I sent it to them along with their address

[bitter harbor]

Ok kitiboga.

[midnight pumice]

And asked them if they could verify their identity

Dude fucking spazzed

Told me he reported me to the police

And continued to try to act like I was threatening him somehow

I didn't break a law. Harassment and Stalking requires repeated contact

[midnight pumice]

#off-topic message

I just like to watch them squirm and realize that the company they work for offers them no protection from the real world

[ashen estuary]

ai mentioned lmao

[midnight pumice]

Had to loop it back to keep it computer related

I won't post the pic of his kid for obvious reasons

I'm too lazy to use Photoshop

So I just merge using stablediffusion

And trained a checkpoint on a couple of photos from their Facebook and merged it with a picture of the school with kids in front of it

[ashen estuary]

LMAO

stable diffusion mentioned

[midnight pumice]

AI is a boogeyman

But AI works well

I'm using it for a sentry gun project

Using thermal cameras and lidar

And have had some pretty good results

Using YOLO for detection and another model for segmentation

And then a custom regression model for servo tuning

[scenic anchor]

why are there no wal-marts in iraq

[hot tartan]

huh

[scenic anchor]

i have messaged the full joke

[obsidian oracle]

9800x3d is the way to go, 8 core is already plenty 😋

[austere shale]

I’ll sell my 7800x3d and 4090 as a combo so I can upgrade 🥴

[scenic anchor]

how much

for the 7800x 3d

[austere shale]

Shiiiii maybe $300? I feel like that’s a fair price after doing a little searching

[scenic anchor]

sure but u will have to ship to india i will pay 60 percent first

then the rest

[austere shale]

Yk honestly the only thing I’m hesitant about is it making it all the way there, plus I’d want to buy a 9800x3d first so I’m not sitting without a computer for a while. And that’ll probably be for a bit because I’m not paying scalper prices for one

[scenic anchor]

i mean i will buy during may or jjune only so

[scenic anchor]

here 9800x3d is available but not 7800x 3d

[austere shale]

Yea if you remember definitely hit me up around that time I’ll probably still consider the idea, wouldn’t hurt

[scenic anchor]

ok

i will add u as a friend

[austere shale]

Definitely hope this doesn’t last long. I wanna pay the $475 microcenter price not the $600 amazon scalper price 🥴

[scenic anchor]

lol

https://tenor.com/view/amd-intel-conor-mg-gregor-gif-14599805

[scenic anchor]

in india it is valued at 589 cheapest

i ma wait 4 months

[rich mortar]

Did you see this? I bet Luke really enjoy his car even more now! https://cybersecuritynews.com/volkswagen-data-breach/

"Volkswagen has inadvertently exposed the personal information of 800,000 electric vehicle owners, including their location data and contact details."
"..The exposed information included precise GPS data, which allowed for the creation of detailed movement profiles of the vehicles and their owners..."

[idle nymph]

Volkswagen, das Auto

[fossil frost]

inconsequential for most people. but for high profile people, or vulnerable people... not good... VW are gonna get raked over the coals for this though, especially with the diesel emissions cheating still hanging over them

[idle nymph]

typical VW

[fossil frost]

ICO in the UK can/will likely fine them 10% of their entire turnover in the UK if this is within the UK too.. EU will fine them 10% of their EU turnover too (GDPR breach)

[rich mortar]

I doubt they will get the maximum fine from either ICO or the EU, but they're likely to get atleast a reprimand and a nominal fine

[fossil frost]

sorry, should have said "up to" on both of those.. .but with the diesel thing still being so recent, its likely to be more than a slap on the wrists

[obsidian oracle]

oh nyooo, they will know my home address and how many miles i drove!!

[oblique raptor]

sup

[obsidian oracle]

sup

[cursive pumice]

sup

[wraith sonnet]

||frick|| the 15ITL05 all my homies hate the 15ITL05

absolute nightmare to repair them

[quaint salmon]

are there devices that take one hdmi out and split it? I have one hdmi slot on my laptop and would like to use 2 monitors.

[obtuse arrow]

🧐

[vast bone]

@rainy_h aliexpress cables

[fading mortar]

Hey guys

[cerulean canopy]

for hdmi nope
maybe you have type c port with displayport capability

[stark idol]

HDMI splitters🥰

[raven grove]

Too bad hdmi doesn't daisychain

[obsidian oracle]

lool

[wispy marsh]

It does

[wispy marsh]

tv <-> hdmi with arc <-> speakers <-> hdmi <-> source

[pastel totem]

Is a 500 watt psu good enough for a 424 watt est build

[obsidian oracle]

sure

thats 424 if all run at 100%

[viscid elm]

i would get a msi a550bn or a650bn

[pastel totem]

I mean I have parts i just found a really good deal on a 980ti

[raven grove]

That doesn't work going from 1 monitor to a second monitor. They would need to use a splitter like mentioned above

[viscid elm]

what psu do you have?

[viscid elm]

is it for 30 or 50$?

[pastel totem]

Earthwatts 500w from like 2009

[viscid elm]

xd

bomb 100

[wispy marsh]

An external module to treat all the displays as each individual one

[pastel totem]

Not that ome

[pastel totem]

80 for a rog strix

[viscid elm]

its not worth 80

how much is the cheapest gtx 1660 super?

[pastel totem]

Ok

[pastel totem]

I have a 1660 ti

[viscid elm]

the 1660 ti is a lot better?

[pastel totem]

A 5600x and msi mag b550 tomahawk 32gb ram

[pastel totem]

A noticeable amount but not that much

[viscid elm]

then why get a 980 ti?

[pastel totem]

Its faster

[viscid elm]

a gpu that will lose support real soon from the looks of it

[pastel totem]

Fair point

[viscid elm]

have you tested it?

[pastel totem]

But I'm on linux

[pastel totem]

Not personally

[viscid elm]

the 1660 ti is 12% faster

[pastel totem]

Its benmarks are better though

[viscid elm]

but its not

[pastel totem]

That better not be userbenchmark

[viscid elm]

can you not see the difference

[pastel totem]

Oh

Yeah no

[viscid elm]

only one site i know has that thingy

[pastel totem]

Anyway ig the 980 ain't worth it

[viscid elm]

so why did you buy it?

[modern marsh]

.......

[pastel totem]

I didn't

[supple pawn]

Lmao everyone here only using official USB cables for their PS5, I hope. 🤣

[viscid elm]

ok very good

save that money and save up for a actually better gpu

[supple pawn]

Wait for the RX9070xt

[hexed seal]

ill never understand them people that always say go team amd like they the king when some1 brings up intel

🙃

ya intel with they 13th and 14th gen instabilities lost the trust of gamers but them 13th and 14th gen cpus are still great cpus

[viscid elm]

the 5700X3D beats it in some games

also how many people have youneeded to talk to with unstable intel cpues?

[hexed seal]

as long as ur cpu wasnt among them effect cpus

i have had 0 issues with my cpu

[viscid elm]

yeah you

some people got golden chips

[hexed seal]

meh still confused on why u guys demand to switch to amd as soon as some1 mentions intel lol

[viscid elm]

well we do not demand

[hexed seal]

ik im just joking

[viscid elm]

thats not how joking works

[harsh quartz]

Price to performance, not fucking over customers, chips not imploding themselves, solid upgrade path, company not current digging itself out of a trench. Ya know, reasons.

[civic fox]

Oof

[green fog]

i have orderd the 9800x3d but is the 9950x3d alot better or is it the same for gaming?

[vapid smelt]

Should be really close

[austere shale]

Probably the same deal as the 7000 series, the ryzen 9 one was better for work station stuff but the ryzen 7 was better for gaming

[civic fox]

Lol talk about slow Internet

[cobalt canyon]

HI

[cobalt canyon]

what internet provider do you have

[civic fox]

Not sure

[cobalt canyon]

what do you mean by that

[civic fox]

I mean I don't know

[cobalt canyon]

Ok

But how do you even play games

[civic fox]

I download them and then play them

[cobalt canyon]

online games

[civic fox]

Those aren't affected my ping is pretty good

I play online games all the time

[cobalt canyon]

i wonder how much it takes to download cod

[civic fox]

Black ops 3 took about 2 days

[cobalt canyon]

hell naw

i would upgrade

[civic fox]

It's what poor people deal with it just be like that

[cobalt canyon]

i think you can afford a 15 dolar plan

[civic fox]

Nope sure can't

[cobalt canyon]

then you can only pray

[harsh quartz]

Heavily location dependent. In the US 15$ is about 1/4 of the cheapest internet plan

[cobalt canyon]

i live in germant

[civic fox]

The slow Internet doesn't bother me I've had it my entire life I'm used to it by now

[harsh quartz]

I know. That’s why I said it’s a US thing.

[civic fox]

I just like sharing it and watch people react to it 😄

[harsh quartz]

Most people who say internet is less than 20$ are in the EU

[cobalt canyon]

yeah

but vodafone is 40 euros for 250 download and 50 upload

[civic fox]

The good ol overnight download lol

250 down and 50 up that is uh something

[modern marsh]

e.

[harsh quartz]

Cheapest you’ll almost ever see in the US is 60$ for a base package, typically 250 down, sometimes symmetrical sometimes not depending on if it’s cable or fiber. If your on an old copper line or any form of DSL, your gonna be paying closer to 80 for maybe 10 down

[modern marsh]

uh i pay 26$ monthly for wifi

download stuff from chrome is 3 mb/s

[cobalt canyon]

dude

[modern marsh]

im from egypt i have 600 gb for each 25$

[civic fox]

Max I get on steam is 6Mb the browser gets like 700kb/s

[cobalt canyon]

dude

[modern marsh]

?

[cobalt canyon]

why

[modern marsh]

wdym why

[cobalt canyon]

is it their so cheap

[modern marsh]

WDYM SO CHEAP

its literly 1/4 of someone is monthly pay

[civic fox]

Do you mean Mb not gigabit?

[modern marsh]

here

yeh miga bye

[cobalt canyon]

i pay 10 euros for 5gb

[modern marsh]

downloading gta V takes i think 4 days?

[modern marsh]

im not talking mobile data

[cobalt canyon]

oh

[modern marsh]

im talking about fabric wifi

[cobalt canyon]

than its bad

[modern marsh]

we pay for gb not inf

we pay 50$ for 10 gb for mobile data

[cobalt canyon]

how much up and down do you get

[modern marsh]

uh i think 50 and 30

[civic fox]

I have unlimited mobile data so

[modern marsh]

mega

i dont even have unlimited fabric wifi

let alone mobile data

[cobalt canyon]

howww

[civic fox]

Because it's common here to have unlimited

[modern marsh]

where?

[cobalt canyon]

usa i think

[civic fox]

The US

[modern marsh]

welp

i pay wifi in gb for my router

not mobile data

[civic fox]

My wifi is free so that's why it's probably slow

[modern marsh]

how slow is it

[cobalt canyon]

bruh

[modern marsh]

let me go to speed.net rn

https://www.speedtest.net/

[harsh quartz]

Unlimited mobile data is normal here but we also pay a lot for contract plans and our internet as a whole is significantly more expensive

[civic fox]

Less than like 5mb/s

[modern marsh]

do this both of you

do this https://www.speedtest.net/

[civic fox]

Don't need to

[modern marsh]

and send results

[cobalt canyon]

i cant

[modern marsh]

no do it i want to compare

[cobalt canyon]

i try

[modern marsh]

breh

[civic fox]

I already know the results and they are not accurate

[modern marsh]

wanna know why

that is mbps not mbs

you gotta divide by 8 to get accruate

[cobalt canyon]

look at your dm

[civic fox]

Either way my stuff is slow, oh well not a big deal

[austere shale]

I have 1 gig down and 40mbps up, for $50 a month. And the internet man said they’re trying to go mirrored soon

[modern marsh]

eh

[modern marsh]

mobile data?

e

[civic fox]

No that's Internet

[modern marsh]

that is unlimited monthly?

[austere shale]

Yea house internet

[harsh quartz]

You got some sort of government stipend around there or something?

[modern marsh]

my house internet cost also 50$ monthly
its 50 mbps down and 25 upload to get real result not mbps divide mine by 8
i get 600 gb wifi for 30$

[civic fox]

A friend of mine has 400 down and roughly 150 to 200 up for about 60 bucks

[modern marsh]

meanwhile me..

[cobalt canyon]

nah

[austere shale]

No I just know a guy at the ISP who does sales. So we canceled it under by name which was $120 a month. And re-did it under my girlfriends name to get the “introduction rate” but he was a G and locked in that price for 2 years

[civic fox]

I would stress her Internet by downloading big files and seeing how long it would take

[cobalt canyon]

you cut it

[austere shale]

And it includes equipment too

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, that’s not a typical thing though, we were talking typical rates

[cobalt canyon]

uh

[modern marsh]

that thing is not accurate
let me find another website

eh i cant find an accurate website but let me start a file download rn

found one

[civic fox]

Btw I don't get anywhere near this speed on anything I download

[austere shale]

It does suck tho because I only get about 650mbps since the game run from where it comes into the apartment complex to my apartment is long as hell so there is a lot of signal degradation

[modern marsh]

like i said that is mbps divide by 8

is your real speed

[civic fox]

Yes I'll go grab a calculator 🤓

[modern marsh]

you want mb/s not mbp/s

[civic fox]

Yea I don't achieve this either

[cobalt canyon]

guys

has someone over 150

or am i the only one

[modern marsh]

that is the average

it matters by the server you are downloading from

[civic fox]

I don't even achieve that average either

[austere shale]

Idk how you do it

[civic fox]

Used to it I guess

[tepid lake]

I get 400mbps down

[civic fox]

I didn't even use the Internet until I turned 15, it used to be all console games via disc and whatnot

[austere shale]

I mean same but every game I play now is multiplayer

[modern marsh]

moincraft

[civic fox]

I can still play online games just fine downloads are the only thing affected

[modern marsh]

valorant

[cobalt canyon]

do you need help

mentaly

i can give you the best advice

leave

[modern marsh]

ii cant...

immm trapppedd..

its adddiction

[cobalt canyon]

its lol. 2.0

[austere shale]

At least they aren’t a concord player

[cobalt canyon]

buy new skin for 40 dolar

[modern marsh]

iii....

[modern marsh]

ii did........

[cobalt canyon]

just for a few pixel

[royal rapids]

Its called an uninstall

[modern marsh]

erm..........

[civic fox]

I never spend money in game

[modern marsh]

it was good. looking.....

[cobalt canyon]

me too

[cobalt canyon]

is it worthy

[modern marsh]

it makes me headshot.

[civic fox]

Can't afford to 🤣

[smoky badge]

lol

[modern marsh]

trust

[cobalt canyon]

i know

[modern marsh]

the sound of bullets and way it get shot actually make us get better shots

[cobalt canyon]

i have my friends account and was playing

[modern marsh]

its a p2w game but no one knows.

[cobalt canyon]

but my optiplex mothboard pins bent

[modern marsh]

welp.

[austere shale]

Yea I mean the people who dunk on cosmetics I’ll never quite understand, because if you’re enjoying a game and you like the skins they put out and you have your finances in order to buy it then who cares

[civic fox]

I mean I have game pass although I'm not the one paying for it

[modern marsh]

ay its not just cosmetics

it actually change the gameplay

its like a p2w

[cobalt canyon]

yes

[modern marsh]

i tried lol and unistalled it after the tutiroal

cant spell it but who cares

[austere shale]

I bought the unheard edition of tarkov because I like the game

[modern marsh]

sus

[austere shale]

Good game

[modern marsh]

yes

[frigid flower]

whats the highest quality black full desk mat i'm gonna get for around $50 CAD no design or anything preferably

[obsidian oracle]

lttstore.com had a similar one but i dont know the price

it might still be there, check it out

tho it might not be full desk size, whatever that size is

[prime solstice]

its $30 usd