public-chat

[zealous scroll]

the 5070 might be 5-15% faster then the 4070 super, but the 5070 (for now) is cheaper. wait for reviews.

[covert night]

Kk thanks

[pallid latch]

okay thank you, i got the h6 flow and hella fans so i hope it will look nice

[earnest warren]

Yea I would just say keep 7900xtx and honestly the dirt just shows you drive correctly and don’t baby them my lowered bmw probably hates me

[weak vault]

This has officially become the scene from iron man 2

Literally robots on stage

[ebon otter]

Metro, day of defeat, apex

[gaunt girder]

Yeah, I'd stick with the 7900xtx @pallid latch

Seems like they're trying to push DLSS and take our eyes on that which means rast performance isn't going to have a huge uplift like Twitter thinks rn

I bet the Founder Cards are going to be the only ones that touch that MSRP - partners seem to always add a hundred on or something

You already got it, and if you /really/ want a 5000 series card? You'd then need to wait for the 30th, and then wait for reviews and hope you get the card.

[silk island]

ultra doesn’t even mean anything, unless you look at a still image for 50 billion years ultra has no benefits over high settings

[glass nova]

awesome choices!

[zealous scroll]

Kerbal space program, helldivers, minecraft, sea of thieves

[glass nova]

hell yeah metro

[sterile garnet]

Damn it goes far

[uneven stirrup]

The 5080 has the same amount of cores as the 4090

[pallid latch]

gotta aim for some good cable managment then!

[silk island]

LTT literally said themselves that ultra settings are useless

[glass nova]

i get it i play a ton of source games. not exactly retro but still!

[ebon otter]

They are

[glass nova]

i usually play at medium-high settings on my games

[weak vault]

Ultron about to hit so different

[silk island]

Source 2 isn’t even a decade old yet 😭😭😭

[earnest warren]

I play rust so I never see over 200fps lol

[uneven stirrup]

fuck it we mod 24gb onto the 5080 or wait for the 5080 super for $1199 or something like that

[pallid latch]

thanks for your input, ive already waited a couple weeks for this thing now and lived with my 2070 for way too long so i think ur right 🙂

[glass nova]

i think you mean just source, source 2 is 5 years old

[gaunt girder]

Yeah but you're also relying on a keynote to make a future decision about a card.

I remember all the hype around people selling their 2080s as cheap as chips when the 30 series were announced.

[modern pier]

we'd have to get the new 24Gbit ggdr7 chips

[pallid latch]

i just dont wanna have to lower settings and shit to make a game enjoyable

[silk island]

I personally might sell my 7900 XTX to get the 5090 but that’s because I play at 4K144 and it doesn’t hit those frame rates.

[modern pier]

or you could theoretically mod 32gb onto it if those chips become avaliable

[ebon otter]

SEX ROBOTS!!!

[uneven stirrup]

Indeed when that comes out… I think as soon as that comes out we’ll see the 5080 super for 1.2k or the same as 5080

[calm swan]

it's probably not going to be a regression from 4080s, unless nv screws it up like intel

[silk island]

relying on ultra graphics to have a game be fun is the most ridiculous logic I’ve ever fucking heard

[covert night]

They claimed that the 5070 has the same performance as a 4090 right?

[ebon otter]

WERE IN THE ENDGAME NOW!!

[uneven stirrup]

Put a suit on it like a fursuit

[glass nova]

what if jensen got up and did the fucking worm

[calm swan]

w/dlss and mfg yes

[tawdry pecan]

I think the new DLSS Transformer model doesn't use temporal data?

That means TAA is finally dead.

[modern pier]

I think it would have to be a Ti if they increase the price. Correct me if I'm wrong but to my knowledge none of the Super cards increased the price, 20 series or 40 series

[glass nova]

fair enough

crazy how ahead of its time the source engine was.

[zealous scroll]

that's with a heavy *. the 5070 is uisng DLSS 4 + Frame Gen and other things to do that. In pure rasterization the 5070 will be no where close to the 4090

[uneven stirrup]

Interesting you sure the 2080S was quite expensive

[glass nova]

still so versatile and so fun!

[sterile garnet]

Ngl cosmos is a lil cool, I could see it being used to make games too

[modern pier]

2080 was quite expensive too

[pallid latch]

thats not what i mean, i just dont wanna have a shit looking game and worry that my gpu is too slow

[ebon otter]

Source games are so slippery and smooth for movement

[silk island]

maybe DLSS 4 will finally match native rendering

[covert night]

We’re so finished with this robot shi

[torpid zenith]

So is the RTX 5070 actually good?

[ebon otter]

So if robots can do all jobs what would we do?

[earnest warren]

Ok can we talk about how Jenson low-key was probably just ai lmao bros a goof

[silk island]

you can literally just drop the settings down to very high or high. games look good even at low settings these days tho.

[zealous scroll]

i'm sure that is what nvidia would hope for us to think

[modern pier]

5070 with dlss 4 required for 1080p 30 fps on new ubisoft slopfest unreal 5 game upscaling from 720p

[uneven stirrup]

Same price… so I think they might just do a super then for $999

[glass nova]

ok but what jf jensen got on stage, took off his jacket and said “Okay, we know what AI can currently do, but can it do THIS!!?” and did the worm??

[zealous scroll]

with all these horribly optimized games, i am amazed that GTA V was up and running on the xbox 360 with 512 MB OF RAM (correct me if i am wrong)

[pallid latch]

i dont wanna spend 1200 dollars on a gpu and play on low

[silk island]

buying a gpu to be able to max out graphical settings is dumb. you should only upgrade if you can’t play games at all with your existing GPU at your new resolution

[calm swan]

probably yeah

[uneven stirrup]

There’s 5080 super leaks… so yeah $999 for 24gb when the new vram comes out… so do we wait for 5080 super for $999???

[modern pier]

Yeah, it's still unbelievable to me. I remember reading about that a year ago and was so surprised I had to fact check the 512MB of RAM for myself.

[pallid latch]

yeah i dont care much at all for RT

[glass nova]

what if jensen did an ai powered worm

https://tenor.com/view/worm-bean-boy-benjamin-doing-the-worm-dance-dancing-gif-25923859

[uneven stirrup]

Jensen stutters a lot

[glass nova]

pulled one of these

[uneven stirrup]

Like he’s running on ai

[modern pier]

If you give me 100 billion dollars i'll make a 5070 killer

[silk island]

I was not saying that??? I’m just saying that you don’t need to run a game at ultra settings regardless of GPU.

[pallid latch]

should get around 100 on space marine 1440p then i hope

[gaunt girder]

Oh for sure, but looking at the graphs without DLSS it's not even touching 40% uplift on performance compared to the 4080.

I love the DLSS train, it breathed new life into older cards and allows for much better performance. But on the other hand, for me at least - there's still notable graphical differences I notice.

If DLSS 4 doesn't look like it's native, then I don't see a point in that whole train.

[uneven stirrup]

BRO ARE YOU THERE

[glass nova]

“and it was THIS big”WHERE DID IT GO

[earnest warren]

He needs a beer guys chill

[sterile garnet]

Really small

[silk island]

this camera is potato

[uneven stirrup]

Omg your there that’s insane

[modern pier]

5060 for 720p upscaled to 1080p with dlss 4

[sterile garnet]

He is walking

[glass nova]

shout at jensen to do the worm

[silk island]

What phone do you have 💀

[glass nova]

i really think jensen should do the worm

[sterile garnet]

Pixel 9 pro xl

[silk island]

😭😭😭😭

[modern pier]

I refuse to refer to upscaled resolutions as what they are being upscaled to, i always call it 720p upscaled to 1080p for example

[uneven stirrup]

L

[ebon otter]

If your at CES scream at him to

[glass nova]

dont forgot bros a bit far away

[sterile garnet]

W, its so good, i love it

[modern pier]

How dark is it? My iPhone 13 gets really grainy in night mode when it's remotely dark.

[silk island]

its SoC is garbage..

[calm swan]

40% is still quite large, would mean 25% better than 4090

for $999 that's pretty damn good considering 4090 is like $2100 rn (or $1700 usually)

[sterile garnet]

Well the lights are changing every 2 seconda

[pallid latch]

i feel scammed bruh, 5070 bros gonna smoke me

[modern pier]

Jenson should twerk

[uneven stirrup]

I’m just messing I like the pixel line

[silk island]

No they’re not.

[ebon otter]

How did we get here from sticks and stones?

[glass nova]

jensen seizure warning

[calm swan]

solid phone with awful soc

[uneven stirrup]

How is it that small holy

[sterile garnet]

The phone works flawlessly for how I have it

[uneven stirrup]

Bro made the Mac mini

[glass nova]

what is he showing?? im not watching

[uneven stirrup]

Run crypto on it >:3

[silk island]

I like my iPhone. Android is a dumpster fire with its horrible optimization and downright abysmal memory handling

[glass nova]

i stopped when it hit the hour

[modern pier]

Requirements: a computer

[pallid latch]

people saying the 5070 is 4090 performance and 4090 is better than xtx (not VRAM)

[zealous scroll]

the A.I.puter™

[uneven stirrup]

We might have another crypto boom… this isn’t good

[modern pier]

Hey guys im new will a 5090 bottleneck my abacus?

[glass nova]

guys what is he showing

[ebon otter]

Like gpu scalping?

[silk island]

Bruh. Stop listening to people on the internet.

[pallid latch]

idk

[sterile garnet]

Well we could go all day on apple vs android but end of the day I like being able to flash a custom rom on my phone and customize it to the bone

[glass nova]

oh thanks

[uneven stirrup]

YES

[fading pagoda]

With dlss 4.0 which we don’t know how accurate it is yet

[glass nova]

i think its the other way around

[pallid drift]

"people on the internet" is the nvidia ceo

[fading pagoda]

For all we know the graphs were upscaled from 1/8th resolution

[ebon otter]

Great! I’m planing on getting new Pc this summer cause myn borked it

[fading pagoda]

Or something stupid like that

[gaunt girder]

You know what you want the card to do. If you want a card to run at Ultra/Highest settings? That's totally valid.

Don't worry about what's going to come out, because you'll never have fun. You'll be waiting for the 50 series, then the 50 Series Super, and then the newest.

5070 is ONLY better in select situations, and people hyping this up to be a 4090 killer are either new to the Nvidia cycle of releases or they're farming engagement.

[ebon otter]

This sucks

[modern pier]

it has 2 bytes of ram

[sterile garnet]

Both apple and android have problems, the difference is android typically has some fix you can force

[torpid zenith]

Nvidia CEO on the internet

[hidden dragon]

Jensen said it. Not people

[modern pier]

16 bits of ram

[glass nova]

https://tenor.com/view/huang-jensen-nvidia-ceo-gif-19751265

[zealous scroll]

shiny

[modern pier]

it is powered by my fingers

[calm swan]

4090 perf with dlss4 and mfg

raster it'll be 4070ti super most likely

[pallid latch]

im just a noob idk, its my first pc but i kinda forgot how old the xtx is getting now

[silk island]

what the fuck jensen

[fading pagoda]

Can’t wait for AMD to show up NVIDIA in price to performance as always

[ebon otter]

My girlfriends powered by my fingers

[silk island]

this entire keynote was about ai

[calm swan]

obviously?

[glass nova]

now youre getting it evelyn now you see the outrage i have

[modern pier]

true (i dont have a girlfriend)

[calm swan]

the entire world uses nv tech for ai

[eternal nimbus]

specs look like 4080 super no?

[silk island]

neither do I.

[glass nova]

I HAVE ONE

[earnest warren]

You won't be disappointed coming from 2070 I'm guessing your doing massive cpu upgrade too

[torpid zenith]

Yea Nvidia is an AI company now, they’ve abandoned games

[glass nova]

HAHAHAHA

[modern pier]

thinkpad users dont have girlfriends

[silk island]

cool for you? love lives don’t need to be talked about online.

[sterile garnet]

Idk what you mean by apple being more customizable

But sure

[silk island]

have you ever even had an iPhone?

[glass nova]

i was trying to have a laugh 😔 deeply sorry

[calm swan]

they make a shit ton more from ai than gamers 🤷‍♂️

[pallid latch]

from a r5 2600x to r7 9700x, im hoping its good :/

[ebon otter]

So the 5080 and 5070 are gonna get scalped to hell and back we can All agree on that?

[zealous scroll]

what universe is this where apple is customizable

[gaunt girder]

Again, if you keep worrying - you won't have fun. 7900xtx is going to be a great card for probably years to come.

There's always going to be an upgrade. But the 7900xtx will do what you want it to do for a long while

[modern pier]

i got a thinkpad t480 for 100 dollars

[glass nova]

looks over at my laptop shit

[modern pier]

brand new batteries too

[sterile garnet]

Uh yeah, and they just added homescreen customization 😂

[silk island]

ever since iOS 14 the os has been increasingly more customizable

[calm swan]

somewhat**

they added stuff that androids had for a while

[silk island]

and iOS kicked android’s ass in terms of widgets

[torpid zenith]

yea but lowkey hope the AI bubble bursts

[sterile garnet]

That maybe

[modern pier]

its more like 8 hours

[patent violet]

A world of imagination.

[pallid latch]

okay ty

[earnest warren]

Yes stop worrying it will be way better than your current pc and you will probably be amazed at preformance

[vestal lark]

Is there a way to add an adblocker on my Phone for YouTube?These ads with hypersexualized Anime Characters are driving me insane

[sterile garnet]

But i dont care as much about that

[zealous scroll]

oh, you mean software wise. i'm not watching the event so i high-key thought swapping SSDs in a mac or something

[pallid latch]

i hope so

[silk island]

and custom roms fuck up your camera btw because they don’t have the same processing that is in Google’s version of Android

[modern pier]

if i had a dollar for every time windows battery thing was accurate predicting how long it has left i would have no money

[dense mesa]

returning my meta quest 3 so i can get a 5070

[calm swan]

eh won't happen for a while compared to crypto

[earnest warren]

Maybe by the time 50 series are in stock I can get a 9800x3d

[calm swan]

gcam exists anyways, so does motion cam for videos

[modern pier]

@ linus can i have free computer pls

[sterile garnet]

Im using the pixel camera app and google sandbox so it should be fine

[patent violet]

Dont even need custom roms to make large customizations to the phone

[zealous scroll]

[silk island]

Except it’s not

[torpid zenith]

yea probably will have to wait until the software is actually optimized and Nvidia isn’t the only company that can manufacture power hungry chips to brute force it

[pallid latch]

i was gonna get one but it felt a little overkill for my use

[glass nova]

can i play half life 2 on my 5070?

[silk island]

Using the app alone doesn’t mean you get the exact Pixel processing

[sterile garnet]

Anyway I gotta walk the strip will see ya

[modern pier]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-free-robux-you-wont-believe-amazing-shocking-gif-21009840

[zealous scroll]

the event's over?

[earnest warren]

I am coming from am4 aswell I just don't wanna upgrade till am6

[glass nova]

jensen had to sit down and have a beer he’ll be back in 10

[idle blaze]

not really

[pallid latch]

am6? when is that coming, now im behind with my am5 aswell, damnit

[modern pier]

i am using discord client modifications discord you want to ban me yeah well go ahead i am using discord client modifications i am modifying my client

[silk island]

it was entirely about AI so it didn’t even rly matter, was hoping they would’ve focused on more than just ai

[idle blaze]

the 3d v cache is only on one ccd

[torpid zenith]

same amount of 3d V cache cores for all, 9800x3d is cheaper

[calm swan]

9950 is the same in games

[gaunt girder]

Don't listen to people getting crazy for the 50 series hypetrain either.

This is what the PC Industry does. They announce a new product at a show, with a longer fineprint than a loan contract.

It's always tested with their sweetest conditions in mind, and in this case their 5070 = 4090 claim was solely based on DLSS.

Just have fun. It's not like games are going to suddenly not run on the 7900 just because of these cards! 🙂

[earnest warren]

This and am5 is supported till like 2026

[pallid latch]

thanks ,really appreciate it

[silk island]

probably more like 2027 or later. They still support AM4 with new CPUs even.

[calm swan]

well cheaper*
it's almost always OOS and scalped for like $800+

[zealous scroll]

as expected. now i can get some sleep.

[glass nova]

alright im going to sleep. thanks jensen i have a headache now.

[pallid latch]

i just got worried seeing as my xtx gets delivered this week and someone said a 800 dollar card would be miles better

[glass nova]

gn linus cord or whateve rthis place is called it was an epic time jndeed 🩷

[earnest warren]

Is there price leak on 9950x3d

[calm swan]

nah, the only card that competes is like the 4080s which costs more

unless rt

[gaunt girder]

It could be, it could also not be. Just remember, that's MSRP for their founders card.

GPU Partners (Asus, Sapphire, Gigabyte, etc) all price their cards higher. Especially if it's white.

[silk island]

Why do white cards cost so much? White paint isn’t even expensive.

[gaunt girder]

We have no legit performance graphs in the real world yet.

[pallid latch]

5080 :/

[torpid zenith]

they make less of them due to lower demand

[gaunt girder]

Idk, I've always wondered that myself. I just call it aesthetic tax.

[earnest warren]

We pay for it

[silk island]

5080 won’t matter unless u play at 4K or 1440p480hz

[calm swan]

i mean that's probably faster, not really a performance competitor

[pallid latch]

yeah it would have to be white i guess since every other component is

[calm swan]

price wise yeah since xtx is like $929 now

[silk island]

can we stop talking about this now? let the person enjoy their 7900 xtx when it arrives instead of trying to make them feel bad about their purchase

it’s ridiculous

[calm swan]

cancel button exists

[pallid latch]

i paid 1200 for mine although EU tax and its white

[silk island]

shut up solo

[calm swan]

ahhhh damn 1200

taichi?

[pallid latch]

yes

[earnest warren]

Ok so quick search 9950x3d is ruomered at 700 to 750 damnn

[silk island]

and then they’ll have to go weeks without a new gpu because the 50 series doesn’t come out until end of January.

if it’s really that much better than the 7900 xtx then they can just sell it. But there’s no point unless you go for the top dog 5090 because that’s the only card worth buying that’s anything equivalent to the 7900 xtx in specs

[torpid zenith]

rn 7900xtx is probably one of the best value cards out there

[pallid latch]

well my friend bought a 4060 and i a xtx right before 50 series launch so atleast were both stupid

[calm swan]

eh sorta kinda, unless you get a blower xtx the 4080s is like $30 more than the xtx

[torpid zenith]

i STILL might buy a 4060😅

[pallid latch]

idk i feel kinda stupid now buying a 3 year old card

[gaunt girder]

I'd also like to tell you a story from the old days.

Once, an 18 year old boy got his first job - and decided to splurge on a PC. I got a PC with an RTX 2060. I had fun, until the next week there was an announcement for the 30 series cards.

That youngling had fun on all his games, so I opted not to sell it. Meanwhile all his friends were selling their 2080s for cheap.

[silk island]

Man you really need to stop reading into what people say on the internet

[gaunt girder]

And then...the dark days came.

[calm swan]

at $829 like last month it was v v well priced though

[pallid latch]

sry ive just heard its really bad price for performance but idk

[calm swan]

longevity what?

[silk island]

it’s 2.1 years old. It won’t hit 3 years until the end of 2025.

[torpid zenith]

yea but the small form factor one is the only one that will fit in my new build

[gaunt girder]

Mass outages of graphics cards, none could be found for cheap anywhere.

Moral of the story is, enjoy becauee the universe has its ways of rewarding and unrewarding 🫡

Fin

[pallid latch]

well thats a bit better

[silk island]

I was incorrect in what I was saying. The 7900 XTX came out in Q4 of 2022

I don’t know the exact date. Think it was November.

[pallid latch]

what about b580? even though its kinda ugly

[torpid zenith]

it’s much too big, i wish i could use that tho

[pallid latch]

how long will there be driver updates and support for xtx tho? ive spent alot now so i hope to keep it a long time

[silk island]

Plus the 7900 XTX is still AMD’s best card as they aren’t replacing it with a new high end card

[pallid latch]

well the 4060 isnt a bad card, just a little too expensive from what ive heard, my friend is overall happy with his

[silk island]

If I had to guess, based on its only been 2.1 years since it came out, there’s probably another 4-5 years left of support. And even when support ends, it’s not like games are just going to no longer work anymore.

[winged spire]

Holy shit

That was fucking sick bro

[torpid zenith]

yea it’s either that or a workstation card and I am not shelling out $2000 for one of those

[pallid latch]

yeahhh, my 2070 is still getting updates so should be good i hope

[pallid latch]

woah

[silk island]

Polaris was just dropped last year after having been supported since 2016. I think you’re good.

[pallid latch]

okay great

[gaunt girder]

Nvidia GTX 980ti released on June 2015 and still runs God of War on High Preset 1080p with an average of 71 FPS.

I promise you're good with the 7900xtx for a long while.

[silk island]

the game struggles at 4k though 😭

[pallid latch]

okay ty

perhaps i will keep it then

[silk island]

i feel like I might get a dedicated monitor for gaming instead of using my tv and get a 1440p 240hz monitor or something.

[gaunt girder]

I mean if someone is running a 980ti at 4K you got hopes and dreams and I respect it 🫡

[gaunt girder]

You should. It's a very clever move.

[silk island]

I was more talking about my gpu 😭 god of war wasn’t ported by nixxes so it struggles. Spider-Man Remastered runs flawlessly in comparison.

[minor hull]

the used card market is destroyed with these prices

[fading pagoda]

Good

[silk island]

Spider-Man remastered runs at fuckin 4K144 at ultra settings on my 7900 XTX, but God of War struggles.

[fading pagoda]

Let the prices drop

[silk island]

Don’t know why.

[gaunt girder]

Ohhhh, I got you 😭 yeah it was the only benchmark I remember cause I helped my buddy source a 980ti for $70 cause he's building a ESport PC. Doesn't really game at all apart from GTA V and Marvel Rivals

[silk island]

😭😭😭

[earnest warren]

Buy someones 7900xtx for pennies lol

[austere kindle]

guess I'll buy a 5080

[silk island]

Btw I think you mean Nixxes. They ported the game, not Insomniac

[fading pagoda]

100%

I’ll prob get a used 7900xt tbh

Since it’s better price to performance new, it’s used market should be crazy good

[pallid latch]

yeah mine

[silk island]

💀

Come on

The 7900 XTX is good

[gaunt girder]

Don't do it, I may still have heebie jeebies from the 30 series launch but don't do it 😭😭

[silk island]

You’ll have no issues with it at all at 1440p

[fading pagoda]

Also why would you buy a 7900xtx over a 4080 super, at that point nvidia takes over at price to performance (at least in the us)

[pallid latch]

i hope its more than good

[silk island]

The 4080 super is worse than the XTX at raster

And, again, it has less VRAM

[left field]

Vram

[pallid latch]

vram and 4080 super is like 1400usd in eu

[fading pagoda]

I see, makes sense for u then

[austere kindle]

i dont believe in the AMD dgpu department

[calm swan]

by 5% while also having a worse feature set

https://tpucdn.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-founders-edition/images/relative-performance-3840-2160.png

[silk island]

cool, stick with your nvidia then

[austere kindle]

their igpus on fire tho

[gaunt girder]

Idk, I think people hate on AMD too much. They're COOKING. They just needed time to keep cooking.

[calm swan]

it's a $30 diff atm unless you like the blower card design

[pallid latch]

i always get excited when reviewers post gpu prices and then i look at my local market

[silk island]

“Worse feature set”

If by worse feature set you mean not having DLSS, that’s irrelevant because a lot of people don’t care for upscaling

[fading pagoda]

Interesting, doesn’t Tom’s hardware say the opposite?

[calm swan]

they cooked with xtx pricing then just abandoned the high end for some reason

[patent violet]

I believe in AMD and Nvidia because without one you only got one. And you cant have competition without another one.

[fading pagoda]

Nope I checked I’m just wrong lol

[gaunt girder]

Yeah that'll always be strange to me. I personally went Nvidia with my last two builds but AMD was cooking.

[calm swan]

rt is worse
upscaler is worse than xess
in a lot of productivity tasks it's worse

[fading pagoda]

Either way 7900xt still is price/performance king

[austere kindle]

i believe in intel gpus

amd just wont stop dropping the ball

[fading pagoda]

Wish I had one I got a 7700xt for budget 😭

[silk island]

RT doesn’t mean anything

[austere kindle]

too bad they wont make one thats 80 tier competitive

[silk island]

it’s just slightly fancier graphics that don’t matter because while you’re playing the game you don’t notice

[austere kindle]

why spend 1000+ on a card and be like "yeah bro idc about rt"

[calm swan]

to you sure

[raven grove]

Currently everything sucks at rt

[silk island]

To anyone who doesn’t sit and stare at graphics for 5 billion years.

[fading pagoda]

Eh I’d say it’s noticeable, even as an AMD fanboy. Eventually graphics cards will get good enough to where ray tracing makes sense to use

[silk island]

It’s not noticeable LMAO

[fading pagoda]

Rn tho it’s 100% not worth it

[austere kindle]

nvidia is just building better kit

[fading pagoda]

Especially since you have to updscale to get usable fps

[austere kindle]

and even intel is doing a lot of good work on the software side

[silk island]

Ray tracing is pretty, but it’s useless because of how much of a perf impact it has

[austere kindle]

ok so why add it if no one uses it

[silk island]

Marketing.

[fading pagoda]

Intel is the Dark Horse I wanna see what they can do in 2 generations

[austere kindle]

yall gotta be the same person bruh

[calm swan]

drivers are still subpar compared to amd and nvidia, but they are putting in a lot of work

xess looks awesome

[earnest warren]

Ray tracing and ai are most used words ever bro

[austere kindle]

xess is goated

[fading pagoda]

B580 budget king for that price point

[pallid latch]

when i got my 2070 and knew jack shit about pcs i tried RT and was so disappointed

[silk island]

Just sucks that even AMD went the hardware exclusive route with FSR 4. Super disappointing.

[gaunt girder]

Raytracing imo is great in cinematic single player games. Stuff like Final Fantasy 16 where FPS doesn't matter as much (60 instead of 144 is okay with me in single player)

But it just hasn't cooked yet for me. Especially now with games somehow being less optimised.

[fading pagoda]

They were notorious for not being good at RT being the first ones to do it

[pallid latch]

wdym?

[austere kindle]

cyberpunk

[silk island]

FSR 4 is limited to the 9070 series.

[pallid latch]

ah shit

[silk island]

Meaning not even the 7000 series will get it despite it having the capabilities to support it.

[fading pagoda]

Yeah it’s true, I hate how new generations only get the new upscaling now

It’s some bs

[pallid latch]

how is fsr3 in comparison to dlss?

[gaunt girder]

Cyberpunk looked AMAZING with Raytracing but my lord that performance on a 2060 was insanely bad. I'm probably gonna try it with the 4070 Super though.

[austere kindle]

2060 is barely rt capable

[silk island]

Not great, because DLSS 3 uses AI while FSR uses standard algorithms

[austere kindle]

shouldnt have been marketed as an rt card

[fading pagoda]

Less accurate and worse performance than dlss 3 sadly

[silk island]

that’s because dlss uses tensor cores

[austere kindle]

30 series rt performance seemed to be quite a bit better honestly i was able to get like 90fps in minecraft rtx

[silk island]

It doesn’t use standard algorithms

[fading pagoda]

I see

[pallid latch]

i guess my friend lied that said amd uses AI upscaling too

[austere kindle]

whats the difference between ai and standard algorithms

[gaunt girder]

Yeah for me stuff like RT has always been about the person. I can deal with 60FPS for a game like Final Fantasy because it'll look amazing.

Fortnite RT? Idk why they even added it.

[silk island]

mimfraft rtx

why the fuck do u need ray tracing in mc

[fading pagoda]

I thought fsr 3 did use ai???

[gaunt girder]

It looks amazing tbh.

[austere kindle]

why the fuck are you so up tight about me playing minecraft rtx lol

[modern wigeon]

You can still consider it ai, just not deep learning

[silk island]

no.

[fading pagoda]

Oh no way maybe an fsr3 update could improve fps like crazy

[pallid latch]

me too

[austere kindle]

bro hasnt changed a lick

[gaunt girder]

For me - if the developer didn't cook with the standard look of the game, RT will make it even uglier.

[silk island]

im not lol

[fading pagoda]

I’d even take it if ai could help remove ghosting in fsr3

That’d be awesome

[silk island]

just confused, mc rtx looks great but id rather play Java edition because it has mods

[austere kindle]

it is a game that is benchmarked

also my priorities are different than yours plz understand 💔

sometimes i dont need mods

[silk island]

so your priority is just “muh graphics”?

[calm swan]

worse
https://www.techspot.com/review/2860-amd-fsr-31-versus-dlss/

[fading pagoda]

Ray traced Minecraft without shaders is diabolical lmfao

[austere kindle]

yes why are you upset about it

[earnest warren]

Peak minecraft was 1.7.10 I remember when dreaded 1.9 ruined it rip to the kid who played with who went to jail for stealing 290 million

[silk island]

because that’s why games aren’t as much fun as they used to be. Too many resources are put on making a game look good instead of having them actually be fun.

[austere kindle]

womp womp?

[silk island]

you didn’t even read that message

[austere kindle]

like bro ima do what i want with the games

i read what i needed to

[pallid latch]

you know what else is massive?

[silk island]

so basically you ignored the entire thing

[modern wigeon]

How are you enforcing your opinion of enjoyment on someone else 😭

[austere kindle]

also mate they already put resources into making minecraft fun

rtx was just a fun addition

[silk island]

this is becoming a more and more shared opinion that games that invest a lot into graphics are losing their fun factor

spider-man 2 for instance was considered worse than the original

[fading pagoda]

I’d argue that games are just rushed more now, they could easily look and play good but gotta have deadlines to make more $

Every game now is spaghetti code

[austere kindle]

ima be so fr nothing could have topped spiderman 1 and miles morales

only playstation studios games ive played in the last decade that i really enjoyed

[silk island]

because too many resources were put into its graphics, $300million was its budget. how much of that was invested into graphical technologies?

[manic torrent]

at least 7

[fading pagoda]

$7 not $7 million

[earnest warren]

This is so true look at cross bones the pirate game inspired by black flagg which failed

[austere kindle]

im waiting to get sm2 until it drops on pc

[silk island]

Spider-Man 2 should’ve been better than it was, considering Insomniac’s track record.

[pallid latch]

cant wait for oled monitors to get affordable

[austere kindle]

miles morales was already a significantly more enjoyable game, gameplaywise imo than the "remastered" original

[silk island]

I liked the original more.

[austere kindle]

story wise maybe i think the original hit harder

[fading pagoda]

Imagine getting an oled 144hz+ for 200 or less, I’d cream myself ngl

[austere kindle]

miles morales was more "fun" to control imo

[prime solstice]

im excited for doom the dark ages ngl

[silk island]

Miles morales was fun but I preferred the first one and miles morales was too short

[austere kindle]

doom 2016 to doom eternal was crazy gameplay wise

[pallid latch]

bro my 240hz 1440p was 500 dollars, idk what is going on with prices here

[earnest warren]

Some 1440p ones aren't terrible priced tbh I've been eyeing them O led is so worth it even for 500 its so pretty makes more impact then Ray tracing lol

[silk island]

The same thing applies to SM2 as well, it was a super short game too compared to the og

[gaunt girder]

I'm foaming at the mouth for Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth to come out on PC

[fading pagoda]

I’m a Pokémon fan, please kill me

[austere kindle]

i wont be buying any more games for the ps5

[pallid latch]

500 for oled? howww

[austere kindle]

steam or die for me ig

[fading pagoda]

Fr why is Gamefreak still so small

[silk island]

Switch 2 should see a significant graphical uptick in Nintendo’s first party games I imagine.

[modern wigeon]

I got an oled g6 for 750 cad new (pre tax) during sales

[silk island]

Since they’ll have a lot more horsepower to play around with.

[austere kindle]

sorry all of the employees are being poached by the legal department

[silk island]

I don’t think the switch 2 will get 4K. Probably still 1080p

[earnest warren]

Yea honestly worth it considering it will make such a impact

[austere kindle]

switch 2 maybe upscaled 4k ?? idk

i think 1440p native at least on switch 1 games could be a reality

[modern wigeon]

Agree so much, Fire emblems new style for engage made me not pick up the game

[fading pagoda]

Switch 2 is gunna get 1440p tho

[prime solstice]

should be 1080 from the leaks ive been reading

[silk island]

Yeah because they want to make fun games, not pretty ones with no backbone

[fading pagoda]

I’m actually hyped for the switch 2 it’s looking really good with specs

[austere kindle]

i dont think they have the hardware budget to be chasing graphical fidelity at all

thats why everything goes into gameplay

[silk island]

I just don’t like Nintendo that much because of their litigious nature. But the switch is great as are their games.

[fading pagoda]

Feeling like the switch 2 gunna have close to a laptop b580 (if it existed) performance

[austere kindle]

i have no reason to like nintendo atp tbh

[red girder]

LEGO people live in houses made of their own flesh

[prime solstice]

im excited to see what that social media nintendo is working on and what that optical sensor on the new joycons is for

[austere kindle]

also lots of dev time going to squishing the game into an 8 year old android tablet 😭

kicking and screaming in some cases but they usually do a good job

[silk island]

They mean hardware budget as in what the hardware allows.

I think.

The switch has a SoC from 2012 in it iirc.

[austere kindle]

2014

[silk island]

2014 then

[austere kindle]

i do believe

[silk island]

It’s an Nvidia Tegra X1

[fading pagoda]

It’s basically a 30 series chip right?

[austere kindle]

2015 i am sorry

[austere kindle]

hwat?

[fading pagoda]

That’s what I’ve been hearing

[austere kindle]

oh

[silk island]

In the switch successor? Probably

[fading pagoda]

As in uses the same architecture

[austere kindle]

dang it really taking them that long to develop the chip

[fading pagoda]

They got nvidia to make their gpus

[silk island]

From what I heard the Switch 2 will have power equivalent to a PS4 Pro

[austere kindle]

nvidia makes the whole sip

[fading pagoda]

Also heard 12GB VRAM for switch 2

[austere kindle]

played botw for like 2 hours and got bored and i havent even gone to try totk

[fading pagoda]

Aka I’m so hyped

[prime solstice]

actually when overclocked it will it will be underclocked

[austere kindle]

16gb of ram probably

[silk island]

I love the Switch UI. Just wish it had more social features.

[austere kindle]

i dont think the gpu will be seperate

[pallid latch]

thoughts on steam deck?

[austere kindle]

the switch crucifier

[silk island]

Like being able to actually fucking message your Nintendo Switch friends. 😭

[austere kindle]

i wish the nintendo switch had a web browser 💀

[prime solstice]

i think nintendo is working on something like that

[pallid latch]

sry idk what kotor is

[silk island]

Knights of the old republic

[rugged crown]

wait people still care about the switch?

[fading pagoda]

Also they fixed thumsticks apparently

[silk island]

Star Wars game

[prime solstice]

also the joycons are magnetic

[pallid latch]

oh ty

[fading pagoda]

So basically I’m predicting switch 2 best selling console of all time

[silk island]

um, it’s the 3rd most sold console on the planet. So, yes?

[austere kindle]

ps2 is the 1st and theres no one here talking about it 💔

[rugged crown]

i found it severely underpowered and outdated in terms of hardware for the year it was first released

[pallid latch]

anyone here use their xtx for VR?

[austere kindle]

even though sony keeps telling us that they actually counted the numbers wrong 💀

[pallid latch]

ive always wanted to try vr

[austere kindle]

my 1080ti is a vr beast

[silk island]

the point of it isn’t to be a graphical powerhouse, the point of it is to be a place where u can just pick up and play games.

[austere kindle]

the only things ive tried are vrchat and hl2vr though

[fading pagoda]

1080ti the real goat

[modern wigeon]

Nintendo hasn't cared about being caught up with current gen hardware, and look at their sales

[silk island]

and to be a fun environment where you can do so

[austere kindle]

well a computer can be both right

it is a technical disappointment

[silk island]

None of Nintendo’s consoles have ever been graphical powerhouses

[austere kindle]

the gamecube was

[earnest warren]

Nah 980ti

[austere kindle]

and n64 was

[silk island]

Yeah but it flopped in sales

[fading pagoda]

Both good

[silk island]

As did the N64

[austere kindle]

LOL

[pallid latch]

what vr headset do you use?

[prime solstice]

this is why https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/vbbdwe/comment/ic7an4d/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[austere kindle]

idk how sales numbers depict the performance of a computer

oh my lawd

[silk island]

That’s not what I was saying

[austere kindle]

i just use a q3

[pallid latch]

i was thinking quest 2 but that was a few years ago now and i havent done much research

[earnest warren]

My first pc I still have is like a 4700k and 980ti 32g of ddr3 bby

[austere kindle]

it feels like they get increasingly underpowered with each generation

[prime solstice]

yeah thats how they get to make the consoles cheaper so people would buy them

[silk island]

Yeah, whenever Nintendo goes ham on graphics their consoles always sell badly

We saw it with the N64, GameCube, and the Wii U

[austere kindle]

my dad has a 3570k and (what was once a 980ti, he upgraded to a 1080ti in 2017) pc

then he gave me the 1080ti

[silk island]

Though the Wii U was more because of its ugly gamepad and lack of games

[austere kindle]

that was the best controller ever made

[sterile garnet]

Ok so new note internally: apparently the DLSS4 demo had culling

I think they kinda cheating

[prime solstice]

the fact the switch can run most modern tripple a games and being a 7 year old console

[pallid latch]

what does culling mean?

[austere kindle]

kicking and screaming of course

[sterile garnet]

Like some lights are disabled

[silk island]

the switch is its own Wii U game pad but entirely standalone and nails its execution which Nintendo didn’t do with the Wii U

it was the Wii U gamepad but superior

[pallid latch]

interesting

[prime solstice]

yeah but it still can run them better than my desktop can

[gaunt girder]

Nintendo are for family friendly/cozy games and for people who just wanna feel cozy with a console.

Picking up a Nintendo Console for graphical fidelity is like picking up Counter Strike for a family friendly and warm experience.

[austere kindle]

wii u gamepad is 10 million times more comfy to use than the switch imo

too bad it wasnt like a good execution of the gamepad idea though

[silk island]

I hate the Wii U gamepad

It’s chunky and bulky

[fading pagoda]

Switch controller is never comfy

[austere kindle]

chunky and COMFORTABLEEe

[fading pagoda]

Switch controllers make me feel like a giant

[prime solstice]

i remember how bad nintendos marketing was during the wii u era

[austere kindle]

it was built like a little tikes but got damn it was way easier to hold than the switch ever was

[silk island]

I do agree though that the joycons aren’t comfortable because the switch is so damn wide

But apparently the switch 2 will be getting an 8” 1080p screen

[prime solstice]

but the wii u was one of my favourite consoles

[silk island]

So yayyy probably more uncomfortable

[torpid zenith]

same here wii u was peak

[silk island]

If it does get a 8” 1080p screen though that will probably kill the need for anyone to play it docked

[prime solstice]

what do you all think that 9 game would be that nintendo is gonna make a bundle for the switch 2

[fading pagoda]

Mk9 yeah

[austere kindle]

uhhhh

[silk island]

people already play it undocked in the vast majority of cases

[green fog]

So is the 5080 better than the 7900xtx? I was asleep during allat

[prime solstice]

i can only imagine

[austere kindle]

people buy tvs for a reason xd

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-gentoo-computer-destroy-robot-gif-26277729

[austere kindle]

my friends switch has never been played undocked at least when hes at home

its kinda amazing cuz his battery actually went spicy on him

[gaunt girder]

Nvidia being Nvidia - there was a fine print to all the performance claims.

[austere kindle]

so he had to buy a new one

[green fog]

Typical

[prime solstice]

i got the switch oled after my lite crapped the bed and i actually like the oled more than i did the lite

[sterile garnet]

So basically its not as good as they say hardware wise, they are just counting on DLSS

[gaunt girder]

Basically the whole "4070 Super is better than a 3090" stuff from last time (but we did a bunch of things to make the test seem like that)

[sterile garnet]

And even DLSS is kinda lying now

[silk island]

I can’t stand playing my switch on my tv because the switch only does 1080p max and as the tv doesn’t really do any upscaling it looks like utter garbage so I always play the switch in handheld mode

[austere kindle]

idk my friends never complained about it

[silk island]

and games on switch for the most part can’t even do 1080p anyways so handheld mode is the best option

[austere kindle]

ive also never had any problems with the res

yeah but like people wanna play on a tv lol

if you sit a good distance away from any tv then 1080p shall look good

[silk island]

the switch 2 will make it viable though I hope, if it has 4k output

[austere kindle]

my friend actually sits right up next to his monitor which is funny

[gaunt girder]

I still think 1080p looks decent anyways 👵👵

[silk island]

On a 55” tv, no.

[austere kindle]

yeah on a game console or like if youre immersed

[austere kindle]

looks fine on my 65" oled lol

[silk island]

you probably have an lg or something with upscaling

[austere kindle]

i have an lg oled from like 2020

[fading pagoda]

1440p since switch 2 gunna have upscaling

[silk island]

still counts

[austere kindle]

ive never seen anything about upscaling in the system

[fading pagoda]

I got that from the nvidia thing I said

[gaunt girder]

I'd rather have OLED > 1440P. Ngl. That's just my opinion though

[austere kindle]

dont think that was added till 2023

[austere kindle]

ill take both thanks 😭

[fading pagoda]

If it is in fact 30 series architecture

Idk I might be speaking out of my ass

[austere kindle]

1080p is unusable to me as like a pc monitor but with game consoles its fine

[fading pagoda]

I swear I heard it somewhere tho

[modern wigeon]

I've heard that from leaks somewhere but that was a while ago

[austere kindle]

the 720p output from my xbox 360 looks great on my 55" tv downstairs

lower yo standards

[gaunt girder]

I've not actually had 1440p PC monitor yet. I spent all my money on PC.

[fading pagoda]

Idk if I can go back from 1440p

[prime solstice]

i do know from the leaks the switch 2 will have 12 gigs of ram

[austere kindle]

i have an apple studio display and a 1440p 240hz gaming monitor

[fading pagoda]

It’s worth it trust me lol

[gaunt girder]

I'm running a 4070 Super on a $120 1080P TN panel 😂😭

[austere kindle]

do you know that the gpu is discrete

[austere kindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1006343864606531715.gif?size=240&quality=lossless

ah man

[prime solstice]

Yes

[austere kindle]

oh you said ram not vram

im scared for power consumption if its not a single sip

[gaunt girder]

I spent all my cash on the PC 😂😂 I'll probably just get a used one.

[austere kindle]

i spent like 200 dollars i think on my pc

[fading pagoda]

I’m scared for heating issues in the switch 2 ngl

[austere kindle]

mac trade in 😁

[fading pagoda]

Idk how they will make that work might just be a laptop level usage before death

[silk island]

damn, rich

[austere kindle]

not really

[modern wigeon]

I don't think that's an issue that nintendo would release with considering how much they care about pr

[austere kindle]

i coulda bought a ridiculous ultrawide monitor w that money smh

[gaunt girder]

I think they'd probably make it the size of a Steam Deck or something now the precedent is there.

[austere kindle]

it has to be switch 1 sized

[fading pagoda]

Remember guys 70% of paycheck goes to pc build

[silk island]

Impossible because the screen is reported to be 8”

[pastel totem]

Hey guys! (I use arch btw)

[silk island]

Which is even bigger than the Switch OLED

[austere kindle]

it has to be in the realm of switch 1 portability

[gaunt girder]

I'm eating Maruchan Noodles for two weeks after this PC.

[winged spire]

1 pflop of ai performance in something smaller than a jetson is fucking wild

[austere kindle]

steam deck is a big ole idiot

[fading pagoda]

This is the way.

[silk island]

Try the rog ally 😂

[prime solstice]

it is switch 2 has magnetic joycons and its a bit bigger than the switch 1

[austere kindle]

i wanna buy one of them

[silk island]

Rog ally is a chonk

[pastel totem]

Yall wanna hear my builds specs

[fading pagoda]

Why not

Better be cpu and gpu balanced tho

[gaunt girder]

Intel i5-2500k with a 4090

[pastel totem]

5600x Crucial Ballistix Elite 32 (x4 8gb) 3733 16-18-18-38 and a 1660 ti in my cooler master praetorian [plus a tomahawk b550]

[pastel totem]

Oops

Don't question the ram

[fading pagoda]

That’s not what I’m worried about lol

[gaunt girder]

5600x and 32GB is good, 1660ti is good too depending on what you play.

[fading pagoda]

Sell that 1660ti and get a used 5700xt honestly

[gaunt girder]

I'd personally get a used 2070 (or even 3070) to balance stuff out.

[fading pagoda]

This also works

[pastel totem]

I'm planning to get a used 3070

About 300 refurbished off ebay

[gaunt girder]

Sounds good, used 3070 would balance stuff out great. I'd try and find a 3070 Super if you can, but if not I think a 3070 will go great.

[fading pagoda]

Hell yeah

[pastel totem]

A 3070 super?

That exists?

[gaunt girder]

Wait does it?

I may be tweaking cause of the AI shots I did during the keynote

[fading pagoda]

Maybe a ti instead ur thinking of

[pastel totem]

I'm gonna have the best fps/$

[pastel totem]

Naw fam

[gaunt girder]

I was thinking of TI

😂😂😂 mannnn this got me confused

With Nvidia there's TI, Super, STI (hah), Standard, Standard with less VRAM

[pastel totem]

I got the cpu ram and mobo for 250

And everything else (but my nvme) for free

[pastel totem]

STI haha

[gaunt girder]

In that case 3070 goes ham. You'll have a great rig for sure. CPU, RAM and Mobo for 250?? And it's 32GB with a 5600x?

If I had that deal where I was I wouldn't have gone new.

[fading pagoda]

Probably got lucky with Facebook marketplace or something, I sold my old Pc with 5600xt and 3600, monitor, controller, headset, ect for 350

Just needed to get rid of it

[gaunt girder]

Just thinking about it now.

With Nvidia, sometimes there are Super cards. Then Super TI (STI) cards. Some cards have Super but not TI. Some cards have TI but not Super. Some have both. Some also have none, but with different VRAM variants...

I hate Nvidia naming schemes.

[fading pagoda]

Either way I gotta go good luck @pastel totem keep getting those great deals man!

[stark kettle]

5070 any perf data yet?

[modern wigeon]

It's been 1 and a half hours since the gpu was announced why would there be any 3rd party data

[thick osprey]

That's about what I'm rocking with my current PC, difference being I have 16gigs of RAM and a non-TI 1660. It's running games well at 1080p at about stable 60 with a mix of medium to high settings, tho with some of them FSR is an absolute must

[modern wigeon]

Nvidia has released some charts on their site though if ur interested in those

[strong gale]

how did nvidia get the 4090=5070 stat?

personally i think 5070 got to use ai but 4090 didnt

[ruby basin]

ccurrently on one rn there great for medium 1080 p

and really good for pc vr

nvidia prices good for once?

[full fossil]

I found a way to hide files in each key of a keyboard and how to disable certian keys from being able to be typed at the kernel

I spent 8 hours with diffrent keyboards thinking my port was broken at first rofl

it disabled my 2 key and i was like how

so i re traced it

and figured it out

    0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, # Header
    0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, # Header
    0x02, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, # Number of mappings
    0x00, 0x00, 0x03, 0x00, # Disable Middle Mouse Button
    0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00  # Null Terminator

this is what I did to break it

i was trying to disable the mouse wheel click and ended up with that

[mossy iron]

5070 + DLSS 4 frame generation = 4090

[slow grotto]

this magnet may be a tad bit too small

[whole otter]

So does anyone know a good music app that i can just throw youtube mp3s into and make playlists. Natively on iOS?

I guess i could write my own shitty playlist app but that sounds like work.

Workflow: download mp3, add to playlist, listen offline

Tried Yt premium but it was too expensive and the subscription couldnt be cancelled once it was a few days away from renewal

Im willing to build from source or include libraries, just not write from scratch

[cosmic copper]

do you have a mac?

[whole otter]

Ya

[cosmic copper]

import the mp3s into the music app on the mac, then you should be able to sync them to icloud to get them to your phone

i did that for years

[grim belfry]

Literally the Apple Music app lol

[grim belfry]

You don’t even need a Mac

[cosmic copper]

you dont?

[grim belfry]

No it’s just like putting music on an iPod

You use the iTunes app and import the files onto the iPhone

[cosmic copper]

oh true

[whole otter]

i dont even remember how i used my ipod touch but i know it wasnt for music

[green fog]

People are panic selling their 4090s I've seen 3 listing for 1200 dollars

[manic torrent]

It might be close to finally time to upgrade my 3080ti.

Maybe to a ... Whatever the fuck rdna4 will be called.

[green fog]

I'm waiting for the reviews on the new cards before doing anything, I smell bs from nivida

[manic torrent]

Very very obviously the 5070 won't be as fast as raster as a 4090, but given it has better DLSS and better raytracing, it's going to give you similar performance on full DLSS+raytracing in some circumstances

[green fog]

Wdym raster is that like raw?

[proven lodge]

Hahahah no way

[hybrid echo]

Yeah,

[cosmic copper]

rasterization is non-raytracing

[vale pebble]

shld i take an $18 upgrade to klevv cras x 7200mhz CL34 over the Adata XPG lancer blade 6000 cl30 ($150), i am using a ASRock B650 Steel Legend Wifi MOBO?
i am a little hesitant as i dont want to run into stability issues with my PC if i enable XMP

[zealous barn]

Wait the nvidia prices are actually good ??

[whole otter]

that's if you use DLSS4 tho

or buy for work, then any price is good

[uneven stirrup]

The price leaks aren’t wrong

But this is for Japan… rip being in Japan

[uneven stirrup]

These are probably the prices you’ll actually see manufactures use tho… so don’t get those hopes up… NVIDIA is being slimy

[zealous barn]

I mean depends

bcos I was thinking of buying a 4070 super

but now that I see the possible specs and prices it seems a good deal

[whole otter]

its only a good deal because everything is going up and the good gpu price times are gone.

[zealous barn]

Wait…

[green fog]

Wait come to think, how will amd counter?

[zealous barn]

Prices, also performance

I mean if they somehow make the games run good without fsr and frame gen then they would peak

[green fog]

Let's hope they pull something

[green fog]

But which one would u pick, 9070 slightly better than 5070 raw, but much worse in rt, probably cost 50 or 100 less

[hybrid echo]

Wait dumb question but am getting 9 FPS in counter strike, it very bad , it’s thee same even if it’s on the lowest or very high presets, could this be a ram issue, as it is currently set at 1066 mts

[fossil frost]

counter strike is very cpu limited

[hybrid echo]

The cpu is a Xeon 1660v2 and a titan xp

The cpu is oc at 4.5 ghz

[zealous barn]

But do you really need rt?

[scenic anchor]

any one saw dan dan dan anime ??

[zealous barn]

Nope, it’s good ?

[fossil frost]

should be getting way more than 9fps then. i would check task manager to see what is going on

[scenic anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-unsee-how-to-unsee-blind-homer-simpson-simpsons-gif-17613101

[zealous barn]

I mean then again… it’s cs. They still have the smokes dropping fps like mad

I should be running it easy but instead I go in smoke and lose 20 fps for a bit

[fossil frost]

yes, but it can run at 60fps on a i3 with an igpu

[zealous barn]

Yea true

[scenic anchor]

do u like your eyes ?

[hybrid echo]

I rlly don’t know why is this happening, am thinking this is a ram issue maybe, as it is set to 1066 mts, but would that be the case

[green fog]

Idk man but it's the same shit with amd every year

[fossil frost]

unlikely to be ram. as i said, check task manager while the game is running, see what resources are being used by what

[hybrid echo]

When I checked that too, nothing seemed to be wrong there

I mean I am running it off of a 128 gig nvme ssd , so the amount of storage left in My c drive is about 3 gigs, would that be the issue

[fossil frost]

how much ram do you have?

[hybrid echo]

16 gigs dual channel

[fossil frost]

how much ram is being used by the system as a whole when you are in game??

[hybrid echo]

Abt 13 gigs or so

I mean it gets sometimes to 70 FPS or higher, but states for a couple of seconds then goes back to 9/8 FPS

[fossil frost]

try closing other stuff to free up ram, and then play. im gonna guess, you are doing a lot of ram paging

[humble heath]

Quick question. Does LMG have a video about building a budget home NAS? I have wayyyyy too much shit on my computer from work.

[manic torrent]

Ehhhhh, sort of.

[hybrid echo]

Nah, I have nothing opens while playing, so that’s not the problem here either

[manic torrent]

Servethehome, level1techs have better diy server content

[humble heath]

Gravias

[fossil frost]

ok, so you are just here to complain, not look for solutions... fair enough

[manic torrent]

Just get a bunch of drives

[hybrid echo]

Mb,I might’ve sounded rude or offensive, but that wasn’t what I meant to say, I am kind of frustrated by that srry

[fossil frost]

just because nothing is running in the foreground, it doesnt mean that nothing is running... you are using 13gb of ram, so something is running

[hybrid echo]

Yeah, I’ll see later tmrw when I get the chance to mess around with it and see what’s in the background, but yeah thnx for the help tho

[pliant steppe]

What is dell doing 😐

And its only 120hz

[manic torrent]

oh no! basically garbage!

what sort of horrible peasant would have a monitor that ONLY does 120hz

[pliant steppe]

Lmao

Im just saying compared to the previous model this is a joke

[winged spire]

Someone screamed “I’m switching to Linux” at Jensen during the keynote

[pliant steppe]

Wild

[winged spire]

Literally just as he was getting to the Linux part

He must have been embarrassed as hell when Jensen started talking about the robotics stuff they’re doing in Linux

[fossil frost]

because nvidia started to use linux for non-gpu non-gaming stuff, and used it for machine learning? the guy who clearly meant linux for desktop/gaming use... must have been embarrassed?

[pliant steppe]

You wont be getting a good monitor

[winged spire]

Are you a Linux user

[fossil frost]

i use both windows and linux

[pliant steppe]

No human can see 240hz and ir doesnt mess up ur eyes

[winged spire]

Checks out 🌚

[pliant steppe]

Ur alr 😂

[grim belfry]

?

[winged spire]

My laptop is 240

[grim belfry]

I don't see the problem?

[winged spire]

I can definitely tell with that compared to my 165hz monitor for my desktop

[fossil frost]

buy whatever you want, whatever suits you best... what other people on the internet think, is completely irrelevant.. most people are lying about whatever it is they are saying anyway

[winged spire]

Most of the LG ultra gear lineup is good

[pliant steppe]

Ok so since you clearly dont understand the previous model dell made last year was 4k 240 hz and made for gaming now this year they made a 4k 120 model with a massive speaker bar made for content its really just stupid imo

[winged spire]

Use rtings.com @spring fractal

[pliant steppe]

I wont be

[grim belfry]

Okay?

It's not a gaming monitor...

I don't see the problem

[pliant steppe]

But its previous model is

Do you not get the issue here

[grim belfry]

Okay, and?

[winged spire]

Can it display things?

[pliant steppe]

Its like calling that one car ford made a mustang

[fossil frost]

so, a completely different laptop was aimed at a completely different market sector based on what was selling well at the time?

[winged spire]

This is actually real yeah

[grim belfry]

The iPhone 7 had a home button, and the iPhone X didn't! How dare they!

[winged spire]

The ford mustang Mach E literally isn’t a mustang

It’s a completely different car that is also electic

[pliant steppe]

But thats an improvement

[grim belfry]

It's very obviously not a gaming monitor

[grim belfry]

I would rather better speakers than a higher refresh rate

[fossil frost]

try telling that to visually impaired people who need the tactile feeling of a hardware button

[grim belfry]

So Dell made an improvement as far as I'm concerned

[idle nymph]

its a fucking fat ass car

[winged spire]

This is the Steve Jobs argument

[pliant steppe]

No

[winged spire]

Anyone that cares about the sound will buy their own speakers

[grim belfry]

It's literally not

[winged spire]

..

[pliant steppe]

Because they turned a gaming monitor into a movie watching monitor

[winged spire]

(It is)

[pliant steppe]

Or headphones

[grim belfry]

I am not going to notice the difference between 120Hz and 240Hz, but I am going to notice a better speaker and mic

[pliant steppe]

Yes you will

[grim belfry]

I literally won't

[pliant steppe]

You literally will

[winged spire]

Literally

[pliant steppe]

Literally

[grim belfry]

95% of my day is spent in a browser and Microsoft Office. I will not notice.

[manic torrent]

dudes buying 360hz monitors to sit on their card tables with fucking cereal box speakers and no bedframe

[fossil frost]

so they can mouth off to strangers on the internet about how it makes them better than everyone else

[pliant steppe]

I dont understand the point of going above 240

[winged spire]

Now you’re just talking about Linux users lol

[viscid elm]

what was that link

[grim belfry]

My OF

[winged spire]

Link??

[pliant steppe]

People with blue bubbles:

[viscid elm]

male living space something

[fossil frost]

linux users dont think they are better than everyone else... some do... but thats not exclusive to linux users, there are plenty of windows users and macos users that think they are better than everyone else

[grim belfry]

I tried to send a picture but sent the wrong link

[pliant steppe]

Send?

[winged spire]

I’m sad my phone died during the keynote

I only got a couple photos before it started

[viscid elm]

yeah there is a reason why i went for a 240 evne if a 360 was "only" like 200 more

[manic torrent]

I am slumming it here with my 120hz 4k 48" OLED

[viscid elm]

how long have you beeen awake now?

[viscid elm]

aint that a TV

[winged spire]

I got up at like 8am or something

[manic torrent]

nope

[winged spire]

It’s 1:41 am now

[viscid elm]

how much gaming do you do where you get over 120 fps?

[winged spire]

I got a lot of walking to do tomorrow 💀💀💀💀

I’m gonna wear through my shoes

[manic torrent]

very little.

[pliant steppe]

Do you live in the bay area? 🤨

Perchance?

[winged spire]

In Las Vegas for CES

[viscid elm]

that is the main thing, no reason to get a high hz monitor if you cant even reach it

[pliant steppe]

Ahh

[winged spire]

Thankfully I don’t live in Vegas lol

[grim belfry]

It all makes sense now

[pliant steppe]

😂

I dont get how my age makes a difference

[manic torrent]

I mean, I could, but I play satisfactory and sniper elite and forza horizon and fallout etc.

[viscid elm]

multiplayer fps is where you see the biggest improvment with a high refresh rate display.

[fossil frost]

children, especially teenage children, think they KNOW things, but they dont.,.. and they are very confident on what they KNOW, even though they dont...

teenagers are generally the epitome of dunning-kruger

[pliant steppe]

All i said is that the new dell monitor is ass compared to the old one

[grim belfry]

For you, and you are not the target market :)

[viscid elm]

60hz even for word is a bit sad when you have tried word on 60+

[fossil frost]

yes, and we are saying that 1 dell monitor, is completely different from a completely different other dell monitor, because they are completely different

[pliant steppe]

Thats the point. Im upset they changed the target market

[viscid elm]

only one day and i will get my inky blacks

[pliant steppe]

But why did they have to make it the only new monitor

[winged spire]

Something something

[fossil frost]

this is the first time you have said that... you have spent 2 days bitching about the "the same laptop has a different monitor now"... when it doesnt... its a completely different monitor with a similar name

[pliant steppe]

Who the hell said anything about a laptop?

[fossil frost]

my brain broke for a second...

[neon mesa]

printer toner/ink estimation on whatever app printer has is the very definition of fkin useless

"very low" somehow prints the next 100 pages in crisp quality, with who knows how much left

[pliant steppe]

All i want to say is im mad that Alienware took one of the most perfect monitors and turned it into something completely different

[fossil frost]

also, i wouldnt advertise that you are 14 with a 3 year old discord account... because thats advertising that you spent 2 years violating discord TOS. and the mods are obligated to report you, and discord will terminate your account 🙂

[grim belfry]

I wonder how much HP Sprouts go for nowadays

[neon mesa]

well, you're not going to get banned for formerly breaking the age rule

[grim belfry]

Such a cool concept

[pliant steppe]

Exactly

[long briar]

not necessarily, especially now that he's of age

[pliant steppe]

And im almost 15 so it wasn’t 2 years

[long briar]

still not recommended

[fossil frost]

discord do go back and check and kill previously violating accounts

[grim belfry]

Holy shit they're only like $400 now

[modern marsh]

bob

[neon mesa]

for different offenses sure

[modern marsh]

breh that bizzehdee dude is here

[fossil frost]

even if it was 15 minutes, discord can and do still go back and kill accounts

[grim belfry]

I want it

[modern marsh]

wsp

[pliant steppe]

Cool

[long briar]

It won't be delete but rather requiring proof of age of some sort

suspension, if you will.

[modern marsh]

my acc got suspesneded

before
i had to show my ID card

[grim belfry]

😍

[modern marsh]

and i got un suspended

dont say the im ## years old

[grim belfry]

Minus Windows 8

[modern marsh]

under 13 it ban xD

[manic torrent]

I'm 43 years old

[long briar]

I made a joke a while ago about being 10 + 2 (they'll flag exact words) but yea this account got cucked lmao

I'm way older than that, just for the record.

[grim belfry]

So. Fucking. Cool.

[pliant steppe]

Interesting

[pliant steppe]

Was that like hp trying to copy apple or the other way around?

[grim belfry]

It's got a built in 3d scanner

[grim belfry]

Not at all, this is completely original

[long briar]

okay you might be under 14

[pliant steppe]

Im 14

[long briar]

wait 14 is born 2010 oh shoot

this was wayyy after the iPhone

[grim belfry]

And the bottom pad is touch sensitive

[quasi belfry]

Wait what now

[manic torrent]

looooolllll

[pliant steppe]

Not that long

[grim belfry]

And removable for when you want to use a keyboard and mouse

This is only like 7 or 8 years ago

[long briar]

it was after iPhone revolutionized the phone industry by a few generations, yes it's that long.

[pliant steppe]

It was a year

[long briar]

I've officially sorted kids by those before and those after the iPhone

[pliant steppe]

The first iphone with a touch screen was 2009

[long briar]

buddy, the first iPhone was 2007

[pliant steppe]

Oh wait yeah

[long briar]

you were born 3 years after that

[manic torrent]

I remember when steve jobs was all like "lol I'm not dying of cancer, I am going to eat apples about it" ... and then died.

[long briar]

Jobs was a marketing genius, though.

[grim belfry]

You can even scan documents on the touch mat

[fossil frost]

being good at marketing, didnt make him a medical genius though

[manic torrent]

not very good at understanding cancer though

[long briar]

Imagine throwing out a prototype because the lines on the pcb weren't straight enough

that's ballsy

[pliant steppe]

Ocd at its finest

[long briar]

it's not ocd

it's far from ocd

[pliant steppe]

I didnt say i wasnt 14

[grim belfry]

174 months old

[manic torrent]

OCD is HAVING to switch the lightswitch 16 times exactly or you will die. It's a fucking terrible thing, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

[pliant steppe]

You just did

[modern marsh]

5 ft ?
how long is 183 cm

[grim belfry]

Not 5ft

[manic torrent]

1.83m

[long briar]

"mild ocd" really is just someone who likes order, OCD is terrible.

[grim belfry]

https://google.com

[modern marsh]

in ft lmao

we use cm here not ft im 183 cm

[pliant steppe]

Yeah in response to me saying im almost 15 as in you are saying that i said that im not 14

[long briar]

https://tenor.com/view/google-exists-google-search-it-geekboy-geekboy-cz-gif-25933207

[grim belfry]

1830mm

[modern marsh]

;-;

[fossil frost]

its not nothing to do with OCD, its to do with being able to see the final product and how it works in your head, before its ever even been drawn on a piece of paper, never mind fully designed.... and then instructing everyone around you to design and build exactly what is in your head... OCD is a mental/medical disorder

[long briar]

he wouldn't know he thought the iPhone was 2009 so he was born "only" a year after the iPhone

[pliant steppe]

Whatever im not gonna argue with you how old i am

[modern marsh]

lets go im older than iphone 2007

[long briar]

he doesn't know anything about the Apple I

[grim belfry]

It came before the Apple II

[fossil frost]

"mild ocd" is something that people with no personality use as a label for themselves when they like things to be ordered... and are using that label in place of having an actual personality because they think having that label makes them "edgy"

[manic torrent]

I have been married for longer than most people on this server have been alive

[fossil frost]

in total... so have i... but i have split it between 2 wives 😄

[pliant steppe]

1 karma on reddit says alot

[long briar]

You can have a personality and still like order, but yea nobody actually says mild ocd unless they just want to be special

[manic torrent]

https://raspberry.piaustralia.com.au/products/pcie-slot-for-raspberry-pi-5-p02 I think I will get one of these, a pi5, and that will be my audio management system for my desk

[long briar]

Oh no what is he gonna do with that roast

[grim belfry]

Judging people based on Reddit karma says a lot

[long briar]

seriously what does Reddit Karma have anything to do with someone

[grim belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/ghostbusters-earned-it-internet-points-reward-gif-16182618

[manic torrent]

Like this. Lovely and ordered... not OCD.

[pliant steppe]

Its a joke 😐

[fossil frost]

its the same type of person who HAS to say "yeah, i have mild autism too" or "my autism is playing up"... no, they dont have autism, they just have no personality and want to be "edgy"...

[fossil frost]

your brain would explode if i showed you my cable management 😄

[long briar]

Bob has seen mine it's bad

[manic torrent]

It really wouldn't 😄 Under the desk I'm at right now is a disaster

[modern marsh]

brain rot

[grim belfry]

Bob has seen everything

[winged spire]

I really want the project DIGITS computer dude

[long briar]

I have a banker's desk and this cable tray behind this divider

[long briar]

and every cable is just jammed in there along with a big power bar

[winged spire]

1 pflops for 3000$

[pliant steppe]

Woah, id die if i had to move something

[grim belfry]

That's 333333333333 flops per dollar!

[long briar]

you'd die if you had to change a tire you're 14

[grim belfry]

Great value

[long briar]

it doesn't say a lot yk

[pliant steppe]

How is that relevant?

[winged spire]

Small as fuck

[long briar]

it's a really low bar of what could kill you