public-chat

[grim belfry]

You still can with the legacy iTunes msi

[strange elk]

If you use foobar, but not the music app

[white pawn]

but it also forces you into the Cult, so thats gonna be a nogo 🙂

[long briar]

I don't know what you're smoking to believe that but it really doesn't.

[silk island]

there is no such thing as an apple cult

stop with that nonsense

[dusky jacinth]

Agreed...

[harsh quartz]

That’s what I’m using and 1) it won’t detect the phone sometimes 2) it’ll fail to upload certain songs due to metadata 3) it just won’t transfer all of them sometimes, I still haven’t figured that shit out

[full fossil]

i love apple bruv

[strange elk]

https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-ok-saitama-gif-4973579

[long briar]

iTunes sync I think?

[dusky jacinth]

It's such an annoying process these days, even with Android since not all phones are set up to work the same.

[harsh quartz]

Read the next message

[grim belfry]

https://secure-appldnld.apple.com/itunes12/001-80053-20210422-E8A3B28C-A3B2-11EB-BE07-CE1B67FC6302/iTunes64Setup.exe

🙏

[silk island]

yuck.

[long briar]

almost all android devices follow the same filesystem with the same folder scheme for audio files for recordings, music, etc.

[white pawn]

tell that to the idiots at apple that decided that since i took my credit card off my apple id, they needed to not only account wide block me from apple only services, but also individually ban me from them so it took weeks to get access to them back, because i asked a simple question "How is my account more secure when you have a leakable copy of my credit card information?" 🙂

[silk island]

oh stop it with the dumb credit card nonsense

[grim belfry]

Literally Apple.com lmao

[silk island]

you removed your credit card, thats your perogative

[dusky jacinth]

Like, I came from HTC and you needed a crummy manager app on your system in order to access anything on your phone when plugged in. Otherwise, you couldn't do anything.

[long briar]

plus, you could legit just toss it into the root directory with a new folder

[manic torrent]

Wahhhhh

[white pawn]

tis the very definition of cult like behavior, i did something they didn't like, so they punished me.

[harsh quartz]

What is 1 good reason for them to require a card?

[shadow mulch]

I wonder if we are ever gonna talk about something other than apple

[full fossil]

Are you calling apple a cult

[dusky jacinth]

Yeah, but as I just explained, some manufacturers (like HTC) never really quite liked to make things that simple as it was set up by default.

[white pawn]

and they punished me for it by locking me out of free services and deactivating my apple id

[grim belfry]

So you can sign up to Apple One ++ Pro Max!

[silk island]

they don't do that.

[harsh quartz]

good reason

[silk island]

i removed my credit card before from my apple id and i was never met with any punishment

[strange elk]

Of course not, my favorite corporation could never do any wrong

[white pawn]

except, less than 3 months ago, they absofuckinlutely did do that

[grim belfry]

You literally need a card attached to the account to download free apps

[manic torrent]

"I made up my own narrative because it means I'm not the annoying one"

[shadow mulch]

Do you know the EULA and User policies in and out ?

[grim belfry]

Which is bullshit

[silk island]

yes, for verification purposes

[harsh quartz]

What does this fuckin MEAN

[strange elk]

Verifying what? they have an apple device? lmao

[grim belfry]

So you don’t steal the free apps?

[silk island]

steam does this too, you need to spend $5 to remove limitations off of your steam account

[long briar]

erm?????

[manic torrent]

I mean, hate on apple, but they did exactly what they said they would.

[shadow mulch]

I don't need a credit card to download apps on google play

[dusky jacinth]

I can't even just plug my Xperia in and let me look at the files directly on it. I have to either turn my phone into an ftp server via an app or go about pulling out my microSD (along with my SIM since they share the same slot) and then using an adapter to access the files on that or move stuff around.

[shadow mulch]

5$ to play online yes.

[white pawn]

yup,. behave like one, treat peole like you own them simply cause they bought your stuff, and well, looks like a cult, smells like a cult. gee

[strange elk]

They spent money obviously, else the card wouldnt be there in the first place

And I can still family share to a free account on steam

[long briar]

This is because Steam has services beyond just being a store

[silk island]

there are far more limitations than just that if you actually bothered to check steam's definition of limited vs full

[harsh quartz]

1 is a store, that is free. 1 is a device required to live in modern day society that you have already paid HUNDREDS for

[silk island]

god y'all complain about the stupidest shit

[manic torrent]

And apple doesn't?

[dusky jacinth]

Like it exists one way, but some manufacturers just don't make it straightforwards as it should be.

[strange elk]

Muh alac

[full fossil]

Apple never made me do anything

[silk island]

muh fuckin stupid alac vs flac argument that has no relevance because both codecs are FINE

[shadow mulch]

I don't really care though , I'm 4k over the spend price. So yeah

[strange elk]

Muh 24 bit I cant get on CD

[harsh quartz]

You were literally complaining about mp3s being literal trash but aight

[strange elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/456894978426273823.webp?size=48&name=really

[white pawn]

interesting. i did and ended up having to call them repeatedly over the course of weeks to get my account reactivated, and access to services that i had literally never used before unbanned. (i removed the credit card information less than 1 hours after making the account)

[shadow mulch]

Grok 4.0 breaking down already

[harsh quartz]

Grok was ever not broken?

[silk island]

thats why they did it. because you removed your credit card not even an hour after acc creation

it could've come off as suspicious behavior to apple's systems

[white pawn]

why should i have had to put my credit card info in to make a free account, to use free services in the first place?

[harsh quartz]

Damn I love the smell of copium

[silk island]

to make sure you aren't a bot?

[grim belfry]

Honey it was ruined when she bought it

[silk island]

and polar there is literally no copium here

[harsh quartz]

Honey!? Where?! Scam!!

[shadow mulch]

:( I know , didn't know they let it in discord

[manic torrent]

.... Except you did have to, and then you did. And then you tried to beat the system, and shockingly, the system won.

[white pawn]

riiiight, so explain why there is a maximum account creation limit per apple device? (its apparently 5 by the way, at least for Macbook Pros)

literally got a used macbook, and couldnt use it to create an account, had to use my windows PC

[silk island]

to avoid abuse of apple's account system??? if there's a limitation in place on any kind of service or platform it's typically to avoid abuse

do you not know how the internet works?

[long briar]

I wouldn't be able to say specifically for Apple, I haven't spent enough time with it since the SE 2016. I was just explaining why it is for Steam

[white pawn]

per DEVICE? the copium is strong with this one

[dusky jacinth]

It's funny how there are complaints about mp3s sounding trashy, when there are even more compressed formats that exists and are legitimately used for music.

[manic torrent]

You have never heard of iCloud?

[shadow mulch]

Shame that you need a card in the first place , wasn't like that years ago.

They upped their game since I last bought a Shuffle off them

[white pawn]

yeah, all i wanted to do was facetime my son since he is currently based on the other side of the country when he isn't deployed

[harsh quartz]

MP3s are fine for most uses, especially my tired ass cranking the music with the windows down running 80 on the way to work :p

[strange elk]

Apple isnt even the same company as back then

[harsh quartz]

No, it is the same company, different world

A world it helped to create, for profit

[manic torrent]

Not even just most... Almost all. And when I say MP3 it also includes other modern compressed formats.

[shadow mulch]

Yeah the whole idea of needing a card just to make an account to use a device you payed for , vs how easy and seamless Android is in my eyes. Makes me not want to bother with apple anymore lol

[silk island]

oh, so like every company ever created?

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-kind-of-the-point-marques-brownlee-that's-the-main-point-that's-what-they-mean-that's-what-they're-referring-to-gif-311174960382534013

[dusky jacinth]

As long as it's not an mp3 cd, since that counts as a data cd and most music-only disc drives won't read those, or at least I think they still don't these days.

[silk island]

all companies ever created are designed to make a profit

[white pawn]

funny thing was, i was given the mac book by a guy, who thought it wouldnt work, because he bought it used and couldn't creat an account on it

[silk island]

thats how companies work

[harsh quartz]

No shit?

[long briar]

OH SHOOT YOU'RE RIGHT

I forgot about iCloud but that makes SO much sense

[silk island]

because he abused its account system by creating numerous apple ids for no reason

[shadow mulch]

Sounds like Xbox Games scandal back in 2012 when they said the games would lock to the console

[grim belfry]

My phone keeps trying to charge my power bank :(

[manic torrent]

... Not even remotely close

[harsh quartz]

Can you not disable that in the phone?

[manic torrent]

Yeah classic USB C fail 🙂

[grim belfry]

Not on iOS 😆

[silk island]

(this is why you don't buy a macbook off a guy unless they actually verify that EVERYTHING WORKS, including apple id linking)

[harsh quartz]

Wait your in an iPhone?

[long briar]

the ONE thing bad about type C

[grim belfry]

Yes

[long briar]

is the inconsistent implementationi

[shadow mulch]

Didn't realize I need to make sure my computer lets me make an account before purchasing it

[grim belfry]

I am in an iPhone right now

[harsh quartz]

Oh shit I thought you were a pixel kinda guy

[shadow mulch]

Install windows on that bitch ezpz

[harsh quartz]

Mentally you are

[strange elk]

im glad I dont have to do that for pc parts.. no software kinks I gotta worry about there when it comes to lockdown

[silk island]

you don't need to use an apple id to use a mac. you can create a local account without one directly in setup because it lets you skip it

[grim belfry]

I had a pixel 4a for a couple weeks as a work phone but didn’t like it

To be fair it is a budget phone, but it was the OS I didn’t like

[shadow mulch]

To use features like the store and facetime you do.

[silk island]

well, yeah? because facetime uses apple's servers.

[harsh quartz]

I heard from the 6 on was good, I’ll probably try one eventually but don’t like Google too much

[white pawn]

you should take reading lessons. he bought the laptop used, he gave it away because he couldn't use the computer he bought to use with apple services to make an apple id, so he gave it away to someone he thought might be able to do something with it

[bitter harbor]

I am too. Please help me. I used up all of the food emojis and am starving

[grim belfry]

I also like emergency calls to work, so :p

[silk island]

"you should take reading lessons"

i'm sorry but you're quite frankly being a jerk man.

[harsh quartz]

Very fair, and for the camera glass to not just crack one day

[silk island]

and regardless as to the story of the macbook, my point stands. nobody should buy a macbook off anyone without making sure it 100% works

[white pawn]

you should look that one up, no one actually listened to what they said, and then someone, a company that cannot be named because they are the darling of the internet somehow despite all their shitty anticonsumer tactics, hired people who astroturf misinformation 😛

[harsh quartz]

Godwin’s law, and all that

[grim belfry]

I miss testing emergency calling at work

[tardy terrace]

🍔

[white pawn]

no, you ignored what i wrote, and then argued something i never said. so i want you to actually read what i wrote and try again. that's not being a jerk, that literally saying you answered something you made up

[grim belfry]

I don’t even think they do it when I’m not there

[shadow mulch]

personally , would've been great to screw the end consumer into not selling their games , would prioritize that collecting things is cool

[silk island]

i got confused; there's no reason to tell me to take reading lessons when you could've just kindly clarified things. that's being a jerk.

[short rock]

brr. cold.

[covert cradle]

wait, where do I sign up for that? I could use the money

[shadow mulch]

I just wanna be able to listen to my 320kbps audio files in peace

[bitter harbor]

Get away kitty! I need to eat

[tardy terrace]

nO

[harsh quartz]

Peyton in public chat?

[silk island]

god... people on the internet these days

[strange elk]

omnom

[tardy terrace]

look tc1 is all roblox rn and I ain't having none of that

[strange elk]

Hi

[harsh quartz]

“These days” oh I promise it used to be MUCH worse

[strange elk]

:>

[short rock]

name one day when public chat doesn't have a fight
I dare you

[white pawn]

you got confused by accusing someone of something you made up entirely, because there is literally no way you could have actually read what i wrote and took it the way that you did

[shadow mulch]

I miss my floatplane subscription 😭😭

[tardy terrace]

pubchat has fights too? damn, I'm missing out

[white pawn]

too late, they already got sued for it and lost 😛

[harsh quartz]

Pubfights obviously

[silk island]

he being the original owner of the macbook. not your friend in specific. i should've clarified.

[shadow mulch]

I need to go back to floatplane chat

[tardy terrace]

I don't even go in there lmao

[shadow mulch]

so sad

[silk island]

but paradox i feel like you should take a break bc you seem very cranky and heated

[tardy terrace]

I just like the BTS stuff on fp

[strange elk]

Yeah, go get money

[harsh quartz]

BTR > bts

[shadow mulch]

Im grandfathered in so it's only 3$ for me

[manic torrent]

He has me blocked because I call him out on his bullshit

[shadow mulch]

I need to get my monies soon lol

[white pawn]

the original thing was, if you didnt want to have to use the disc, it was locked to your system so you couldnt just install it and then sell the disc back. you would have ALSO gotten the ability to buy the game once and share it with your "family" group. but for those things to work, it needed to connect to the internet for a few seconds every 24 hours

[grim belfry]

I’ll sign up again in 3 months and binge all the exclusives I’d missed

[silk island]

blocking someone is so immature

it doesn't solve any problems

[harsh quartz]

Hp takes that long to write the checks?

[grim belfry]

It’s really not

[tardy terrace]

yes & no.

[strange elk]

It solves some for some people

[harsh quartz]

Oh it definitely solves some

[shadow mulch]

ohhhhhh , nah honestly though , end consumers never own what they pay for , so let's let them own the disc , permanently though

[harsh quartz]

Dimmskii, commander, bss…

[shadow mulch]

would've been a good business model

[tardy terrace]

I can block the genuinely stupid people and my day will be better from not seeing their horrendous takes and/or lack of knowledge where they think they're right

[white pawn]

there no evidence that thats what happened. it could have literally been a family that owned it and made 4 ids on it, then sold it later to a person who made the 5th id, who later sold it to my friend who then couldnt make an id because someone stupidly thought limiting the amount of id's that can be made per device was a great idea.

[grim belfry]

I make myself renew subscriptions like that manually every month because otherwise I forget about all the random shit I pay for and it ends up being like $300/month

[shadow mulch]

my only hot take is mayo on a grilled cheese is good

[strange elk]

Thats licensing, not ownership

[short rock]

however you choose not to for the entertainment. that says something.

[manic torrent]

Dimmskii was the only one I ever blocked, because he would stream of consciousness post 7 in a row and it folded them up into one blocked message

[bitter harbor]

That is ice cold.

[tardy terrace]

pizza dipped in applesauce is pretty banger

[shadow mulch]

I own the physical disc right ?

[dusky jacinth]

Yesn't.

[shadow mulch]

Oooo honestly , spot on

[harsh quartz]

I do 1 sub a year. This year I let my dropout expire and I’ll probably be grabbing Crunchyroll, haven’t done it yet though

[tardy terrace]

I do on occasion, even I get fed up with antics at some point

[strange elk]

The disc is a license to the media that you had intended to purchase

[white pawn]

well, you DID own the disc. you bought it, it was yours. the checking was only to keep you from keeping the game if you sold the disc, like, trade in at gamestop or something

[tardy terrace]

you're the first person to not be up in arms about it lmao

[manic torrent]

The discord block mechanic is absolutely dogshit

[strange elk]

Not the disc itself. Obviously the disc itself is worthless if the content cant be used

[silk island]

on discord, where its blocking functionality is so piss poor that it might as well not even exist, it is. all it does is prevent ppl from being able to dm or friend you which you can do anyways in discord's privacy settings.

[grim belfry]

My ADHD brain could never

[short rock]

and what makes you say that
it seems perfectly fine to me

[shadow mulch]

yeah , I'm just saying that if I own a game , I should have the right to play it even with servers off , my internet off , and I don't need an update to play it

[bitter harbor]

I put peanut butter in cocoa crispies and it is amazing.

[harsh quartz]

Blocking multiple people actually just breaks a chat if you try to go into it. It tries to load all of them while also collapsing them and just locks up

[manic torrent]

Because I have eyes?

[tardy terrace]

wtf that sounds bomb

[shadow mulch]

I out pineapple on pizza , it's not vastly different , just a diff texture

[harsh quartz]

It’s not. 100% it’s terrible.

[white pawn]

ok, then in that case, put the disc in the drive 🙂

[tardy terrace]

try artichoke hearts instead of meat on pizza, it's wildly effective

[shadow mulch]

it goes spinny spinny

[grim belfry]

They asked me for feedback when I opened the website the other day

So hopefully they are planning on making changes

[short rock]

explain please? both of you?

[harsh quartz]

You opened the website?

[shadow mulch]

never tried artichoke ever , wanted to for the longest time but never had the chance

[dusky jacinth]

If you're blocking somebody as the bigger person because whoever it is would be beyond reason with virtually anything and just want to screw with everyone as the deadass they choose to be, then it's the logical choice.
If you're blocking somebody as the deadass or child that can't take no's for answers or any civil reasoning from anyone on the other hand, then you're the immature one.

[white pawn]

it was literally just a convenience thing so you didn't hav to swap discs all the time. and everyone took it the WAY wrong way and decided "they were comin for our games!" or some shit

[tardy terrace]

it's good, pretty meaty for a veg

[silk island]

its a yearly limitation; you can create a set number of Apple IDs on a single device within a one year period, if you exhaust that, you have to wait a year before you can create another one. its not that stupid

[harsh quartz]

It doesn’t actually block the messages, they’re still there, taking up chat space, you just can’t “see” them even though you definitely notice them.

[silk island]

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/101661

[shadow mulch]

honestly , I wanna sign over my games in my will when I die , but I can't have that

[shadow mulch]

I hear jackfruit is a good chicken alternative aswell

[strange elk]

found the genius bar employee

[short rock]

---- 1 blocked message.

yeah, I know that

[tardy terrace]

omg no it's an amazing pork substitution

[silk island]

more like me just googling because not even i knew about the limitation til now

[shadow mulch]

ohhh yeah sorry lol , pulled pork but jackfruit

[white pawn]

that completely disregards the fact that a device can be sold. thats fucking stupid. it's literally apple pushing gently at the idea that you don't even own pyshical things you buy.

[tardy terrace]

i first had jackfruit in tamales and it was like flowery pork

[grim belfry]

Why would I want to install the discord app

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, when that blocked person won’t shut up, every other message in chat is just (#) blocked messages. Also if someone else is responding to them, you can actually see what’s being responded to if your interest in the overall convo

[silk island]

i'm sorry, how in the absolute piss fuck does that somehow equate to apple saying you don't own the things you buy?

[long briar]

Nah it's weird cause Dimmskii back in like 2019ish? seemed actually pretty knowledgable. I leave the server for a bit, I come back and he's just weird and idk what happened

in a way I do actually feel really bad for him

smth happened to him for sure

[grim belfry]

Portobello mushrooms do this amazingly

[shadow mulch]

honestly , sounds amazing. I need to try tamales though , there's an empanada place nearby that does that stuff too

[dusky jacinth]

Okay yeah, now this I agree with y'all as being a stupid functionality of Discord's blocking system.

[strange elk]

Linux users be like

[white pawn]

yeah, i basically have a way for my family to get at all of my passwords if i die suddenly, they can access the thousands of dollars worth of stuff ive bought without having to buy it again

[tardy terrace]

ports pan-seared and put in alfredo is 💯

[grim belfry]

I do probably 80% of everything in the browser

[shadow mulch]

Honestly waiting for a last pass sponsor segment lol

but that's cool though

[white pawn]

cause they are telling you what you can and cannot do with a physical object you bought. really simple logic train there

[strange elk]

Lastpass already fucked up lmao

[dusky jacinth]

There are Windows users too who also ask this question, because they just load their browsers with eeevvery tab possible. Lol.

[bitter harbor]

I don’t have the app for windows so checkmate

[harsh quartz]

As someone who enjoys white meat a lot more than red meats, I actually really like most the “impossible” meats I’ve tried, nothing has been too bad yet, it’s just so expensive

[silk island]

okay, that applies to literally everything with a license agreement.

[grim belfry]

Last pass has changed

[tardy terrace]

yes & no, that's more equivocal to laws stating what you can & can't do with a firearm.

[manic torrent]

I mean yeah I think something was wrong with him, but he refused to acknowledge... Anything really

[silk island]

iOS is licensed to you for use, you don't own iOS as part of your iPhone

[manic torrent]

No, they are saying you can't make an online account....

[strange elk]

Hmm.. I mean I wont go back but if they really have fair enough

[shadow mulch]

what's stopping me from using it as a vase for my flowers

[white pawn]

i can't remember the exact quote, but there was a king or something at one point who said that he would rather trust a general who had made mistakes than one who had never lost

[tardy terrace]

your willpower tbh

[shadow mulch]

is the ATF coming to my house , better hide my dog

[strange elk]

Also fair.

[silk island]

and even then paradox, not being able to create an apple id on a mac doesn't render the device useless, you can either a) create an apple id on a different device, b) sign into an existing one you already have, or c) use a local account. so your logic isn't even that sound

[harsh quartz]

Probably sun tzu, all that shit is attributed to him anyways

[manic torrent]

Or just... Not.

[long briar]

I really feel bad for him, hope he's okay honestly and can get whatever help he needs.

[silk island]

fixed

[grim belfry]

They’re under new ownership and supposedly it’s better

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but so is Intel

[strange elk]

They are part of what pushed me away from online services tbh

[white pawn]

yep. license agreements are literally something forged to erode ownership, and while it has been fought against strongly in terms of physical objects with the First Sale Doctrine and other things, in terms of the internet, because we went from the distributed system of BBSes to the silo based system of the internet as we know it today, the companies had enough power to enforce them over anything nontangible

[manic torrent]

The discord app is just a wrapper so you don't have a browser UI around it.

[silk island]

oh bugger off

companies can dictate what you can or can't do with their software

[grim belfry]

Big K can manage my passwords til the end of time

[silk island]

its the whole point of them owning their software

[manic torrent]

.... The Internet was distributed at first.

[shadow mulch]

They also can't dictate what u do with my device.

[white pawn]

no, it definitely wasnt him, but im sure it was attributed to him at some point LOL

[harsh quartz]

…Kmart?

[shadow mulch]

What I do , oopsie

[white pawn]

then why is it called buying?

[silk island]

the device itself is yours, but you don't own the software that runs on it. its the same with windows. sure i own all the hardware components in my pc but I don't own Windows. I'm under a license agreement.

[manic torrent]

It isn't

[grim belfry]

Cooper from Kaseya keeps my passwords safe!

[manic torrent]

You buy a license.

[harsh quartz]

Oh god. Recently I’ve started having to use the datto RMM , that’s a bad rmm for remote work

[manic torrent]

You don't buy the software

[dusky jacinth]

I do recall something on that.

[short rock]

insert ad about GOG here

[grim belfry]

Because it’s not meant for remote work…

[silk island]

you buy the hardware, and are granted a license to use the software included on it.

you don't buy windows. you buy a license for it.

[strange elk]

Well.. didnt stop me jailbreaking all my apple devices anyway

[grim belfry]

It’s meant to be used for end user assistance, in uncontrolled environments

[white pawn]

if buying isn't owning, then piracy can't be stealing. since, you know, the definition of stealing is removing someones posessions from their ownership 🙂

[harsh quartz]

Its also just a bad remote agent whatsoever, but specifically for remote work it’s really bad

[silk island]

jailbreaking is actually dumb asf imo

[manic torrent]

Haha fuckin datto. Datto is great, our competitors use it, and it sucks and is expensive, so in summary, excellent a+++

[strange elk]

I enjoyed it, and got a bit more use out of my phone from it

[silk island]

i did it with my ipod touch when i was a teenager, haven't felt the need to ever since i switched back to iphone in 2020.

[harsh quartz]

Datto backups are pretty cool, datto rmm is terrible

[grim belfry]

I still really want one of those fancy Datto PDUaaS units

[shadow mulch]

It's hit or miss. there's a fine line between the whole thing. Revoking use to a device because they own the software is basically saying hey , go get a new phone , such as the Amazon Fiasco disabling a home security setup because of something a delivery driver did

[covert cradle]

very unrelated but scalable matrix extensions are cool. processing big chungus 64Bx64B matrices is neat

[grim belfry]

Minus having to pay for it

[strange elk]

I havent used an iphone since 2022, and I was still on ios 13 lmao

[manic torrent]

Datto backups are so fuckin expensive holy shit

[silk island]

apple doesn't straight up revoke access to the device though. all they're saying is you can't create a new Apple ID for a certain period of time due to the device reaching the yearly account creation limit.

[harsh quartz]

Pretty good though

[manic torrent]

We are winning literally every backup contract against a datto provider because it's way too expensive

[manic torrent]

Honestly I don't know.

[grim belfry]

Power strip as a service 😍

[harsh quartz]

Oh 100%, thats why my last job stopped using it. Pretty good though

[white pawn]

actually, yes, it was, you could not use it. you couldnt log into it without an apple id, since whoever owned it previously wiped it, so it had to be reinstalled. which, in case you didnt know, requires two things: connect to the internet, and either setup or login to an active apple id

[strange elk]

But needing to jailbreak and usb c and something I could actually run what I want on it besides what people bothered to make an ipa for is why I moved back to android. Also custom roms but that didnt happen verizon

[tardy terrace]

Oh. my god.

[silk island]

it's called activation lock, and its actually a sensible security mechanism

[shadow mulch]

At which step does the device mention you can't ? , On fresh install?

[manic torrent]

Yeah but note I am not comparing doing it internally, we are a managed backup provider.

[mental tundra]

hi

[dusky jacinth]

[harsh quartz]

I feel like datto looked at power strips having Ethernet plugs and just went “what can we do to monetize this”

[white pawn]

to install an os on a wiped device? are you joking?

[tardy terrace]

"If you don't pay your bills we'll remotely permanently trip your surge protectors"

[grim belfry]

It’s about $2AUD/outlet/month

[harsh quartz]

Yeah and I was at an MSP as a t1 tech, so it was a pretty good software for me to just go “alright, are the backups good? Yep!” And be done with it

[burnt tangle]

hi

[short rock]

first time seeing a power strip with what looks like an ethernet port or powerline support

[grim belfry]

It’s for management

[shadow mulch]

Honestly , this whole conversation is like Birth control but for apple devices and makes me realize the asinine nature. and how good I have it as a Android and Windows user

[grim belfry]

In this case cloud management

[manic torrent]

Yeah that's what you want. You want to know they are good and move on

[mental tundra]

That’s a beautiful power strip

[silk island]

if it asked u to sign into an apple id before continuing with setup, yes, because it means the device was wiped and sold while an apple ID was still linked to it.

[grim belfry]

But we use Wattboxes because they’re heaps cheaper and no subscription

[shadow mulch]

I will never take my 3000mb of ram used up for granted

[harsh quartz]

It’s fairly normal for power strips to have Ethernet ports, usually it’s just pass through though

[manic torrent]

Not really

[manic torrent]

It's a managed power distribution unit, not a power strip.

[white pawn]

so, you would be ok if you bought a device and got told you couldnt use it because too many accounts had been created on it, (and it simply said it this way) "This Device Cannot Create Any More Apple Id's" no time limit, no "help" button, just "fuck you, no" you;re telling me you would be happy with that?

[shadow mulch]

they used to have coaxial aswell

or still do.

[strange elk]

Im happy on Linux. Android less so but best ive got for now

[tardy terrace]

it's a glorified power strip with internet connectivity, lets be real

[shadow mulch]

What flavor ?

[strange elk]

Mint

[harsh quartz]

I’m sure you could still find some but I haven’t seen one of those in a long time

[white pawn]

cause i straight up will never believe anyone who says that would be cool

[short rock]

they called it a power strip. I assumed it was a power strip.

[grim belfry]

All managed PDUs have “Ethernet” ports

[manic torrent]

They are remotely switchable, that's the point

[grim belfry]

Datto calls it a power strip

[shadow mulch]

I forgot what distro I used for the longest time , but have always been an Ubuntu boy

[tardy terrace]

I know

[strange elk]

man I want to hit a mint vape again ngl

[harsh quartz]

It’s a power strip

[manic torrent]

But everyone else in the world calls it a pdu

[grim belfry]

They’re even multi tenant!

[shadow mulch]

I wish my power strip had a whole cable box on it so I can watch my Looney toons at 4

[white pawn]

yup, asked me sign into an existing apple ID. I didn't have one, had a "create Apple ID" button, press button "This Device Cannot Be Used To Create a New Apple ID"

[manic torrent]

What the fuck?! I guess that makes sense for datto

[grim belfry]

They’re really cool, but also not lol

[short rock]

why give the button in the first place then

just there to rub salt in the wound

[tardy terrace]

so just, use another device

[manic torrent]

.... Because it doesn't fucking know before trying. Jesus fucking christ

[shadow mulch]

honestly , I want a hot pretzel

[white pawn]

was kinda my thought LOL by the way, the two techs i asked about it when i called apple did NOT lke me asking about it

[harsh quartz]

Also, those don’t have any battery do they? They’re just strips?

[grim belfry]

I think most of our stuff is 48VDC anyway

[grim belfry]

Yes just a PDU

[tardy terrace]

like one of those giant fluffy ones with the fancy mustard & cheese?

[silk island]

because its a stupid thing to complain about. literally just create an apple id on another device. its not that effin' hard

[strange elk]

Debian flavors are easier for me. Started on raspbian, went to Lubuntu, Kubuntu on my first pc build, needed windows and tried arch and it was too much for me at the time anyway. Mint has always been reliable and cohesive for me so its what I picked in March/April

[shadow mulch]

I've never had the beer cheese and mustard ones before

[tardy terrace]

oh man, they're good

[white pawn]

so, i was given the macbook by a friend who bought it to use as his only computer.

[harsh quartz]

Hot soft pretzel is best with just salt, or cinnamon sugar

[short rock]

you'd like to think that it would. provided it has internet cause it gave you the "sign in with Apple ID" page.

or atleast say "open XYZ website on another browser and sign up"

[manic torrent]

This is an extremely uncommon scenario.

[silk island]

okay and? create an apple id on a phone. a tablet. a fucking fridge. ANYTHING that has a web browser or internet connectivity.

[covert cradle]

This only happens if the wipe wasn't performed by the previous owner through the settings app and instead was done from the recovery without logging in. That's not a normal way to wipe a device

[manic torrent]

.... This doesn't happen to normal people

[shadow mulch]

I can't do anything server wise without Ubuntu / Debian , but I wish I was on Linux but BE and Vanguard support cuts the cake for me sadly

[manic torrent]

This happens to whingy idiots

[tardy terrace]

do you have any idea how easy it is to go to a public library and use a computer for 10 minutes to create an apple id so you can log into your device?

[silk island]

no because it doesn't have the ability to check beforehand if the device is eligible to create an apple id

it pings the servers when the button is clicked

[grim belfry]

Not if you don’t have a library membership yet lol

[tardy terrace]

having fun isnt hard if you have a library card

[harsh quartz]

Or live in a city without a safe library

[shadow mulch]

I wouldn't trust it ngl, unless if they wipe session cookies and sush

[strange elk]

I dont have to worry about that much at least. GTAV hit me with BE the day after I installed it, not that it was a huge loss but it was a huge slap in the face

[grim belfry]

We literally installed the network at the new library and I still don’t have a library membership

[short rock]

this is funny. my cursor disappears over the text bar if I'm recording a seperate window with OBS.

[grim belfry]

(Effectively) the whole machine is wiped every time you log in

[shadow mulch]

Yeah everything i play is a kernal level AC and I'm like so sad...

[silk island]

library computers automatically reset themselves after a set time limit or when you log out

[shadow mulch]

Ooo , maybe it's changed since I last used one

[strange elk]

VR is my pain point for the most part

[tardy terrace]

gtao was so peaceful for 5 days when it first rolled out, it was bliss

[white pawn]

did you know it requires a credit card to make a free apple id? 🙂 and they will lock you out of it if you remove said credit card? (seriously, check my post history, this gets really old repeating the conversation with EVERY. SINGLE. Apple cult fanhuman that sees me typing.)

[shadow mulch]

Haven't used a school library since I was in like highschool /middle

public*

bro I'm losing braincells

[silk island]

no it doesn't wtf

[grim belfry]

I can’t speak for your library, but generally they will be in kiosk mode

[short rock]

it does. it did for me, atleast.

[strange elk]

Also havent been to a library since hs but I think thats more because this place fucking sucks

[tardy terrace]

I don't have a single apple device, so calling me an apple cultist is incorrect.

I'm also sure several other types of businesses make sure you have payment on file to combat fraudulent accounts

[grim belfry]

Our local library is amazing

[harsh quartz]

Ours is a cesspool

[shadow mulch]

back when we used it , it didn't sadly , That's how I found out my ex cheated on me lol , not gonna explain tho lol

[strange elk]

Its the people mostly

People ruin everything

[grim belfry]

People are respectful here 🙂

[silk island]

its probably if you create one through like the app store or itunes or something. depends on the route of account creation i think. if you create one on the website itself thru account.apple.com, i don't believe it requires one. because if it did, how would a teenager create an apple id? they don't have credit cards

[harsh quartz]

Ours is slightly outside of the downtown area, right in the.. not good part of town

[silk island]

and unless a parent is very trusting, hah, fat chance of them linking their credit card to their teenager's new Apple ID

[grim belfry]

The troublemaker kind doesn’t typically go to the public library lol

[tardy terrace]

actually thinking back on it when i did shortly have an ipod i didn't have to add a credit card to my apple acct, and I made it through itunes, soooooo

[harsh quartz]

Tbf, how long ago was that?

[tardy terrace]

like 12 years lmao

[shadow mulch]

yeah same here

[short rock]

you don't need it to make an account, I should clarify that. I got locked out of my account because I tried apple music and I didn't like it, and therefore removed my card after cancelling the subscription. apparently, apple's in the same line google is.

[harsh quartz]

boomer

[grim belfry]

She said iPod, so I’m guessing at least a decade

[strange elk]

I guess Im unlucky?? I got slapped in the side of the head by a kid along with some other light skinned person next to me, another day I had someone come up to me to tell me someone was starting my motorbike up I had chained right outside the front door

[grim belfry]

Yep

[tardy terrace]

millenial

[harsh quartz]

Not even

[silk island]

you should've removed it after the subscription was fully cancelled

[tardy terrace]

well, technically a zellenial

[silk island]

and expired

[grim belfry]

What the fuck is happening in America

[short rock]

I did?

[shadow mulch]

yo best buds fr

[short rock]

why should I wait for it to expire?

[strange elk]

Dude its worse than the wild west here.

[shadow mulch]

98 was the worst year for me

[silk island]

to make sure apple's proper billing checks can go thru to ensure you have no active subscriptions

[tardy terrace]

96 sucked

like what were we doing

[harsh quartz]

Public features have little to no funding in thr vast majority of American cities, and even in cities where they do have funding, it’s usually not enough

[grim belfry]

Fuck you’re old

[strange elk]

Instead of a few infamous outlaws, everyones got guns but they dont know how to use them, firing them in the air on the 4th, new years and when their team wins

[tardy terrace]

eat a brick

[grim belfry]

Boomer

[silk island]

but even then, i've never been locked out of my Apple ID unless a payment failed to go through

and even then that doesn't log me out it just doesn't let me do any actions unless i add a adequate billing method to pay for the payment that failed

[grim belfry]

I would argue they don’t have enough funding here, but I can imagine it’s essentially non existent in lots of the US

[harsh quartz]

Why would this lock your Apple ID

[white pawn]

for free accounts to use free services? been using computers since i ran my own bulletin board system(BBS) prior to AOL, and don't think i have ever seen one other than apple. altho it looks like now you can apparently click a none button on payment info when creating an account. there was no button when i made mine 3 months ago

[shadow mulch]

I didn't need a debit card to install flappy bird on google play store , that's all that matters

[silk island]

google play is sus anyways

[harsh quartz]

That’s a good word for it. God I wanna move somewhere nice

[gusty haven]

my friend just built an identical system except I used the Challanger OC 7800xt and he used a PowerColor Hellhound 7800xt and his games are using only like 60% gpu while im using 90-100% and i get significantly more FPS than he does is there something that i need to do?

[strange elk]

Nah now its just full of NFTs instead

[cerulean apex]

Hey peeps - sort of new here. How's everyone doing?

[grim belfry]

Silly Americans

[full fossil]

I am well sir how are you

[white pawn]

it did when i made it, now there is supposedly a way to choose "none" on payment info when making an account from a windows pc

[covert cradle]

Do you want less FPS??

[short rock]

if I turn off renew my sub and remove my card, it should do exactly that right? remove my card, let me use the service for as long as I've paid for it, and then end my access. I shouldn't have to wait for the subscription to end and risk the company charging my card again.

[silk island]

that has literally always been there

[shadow mulch]

Not allowing a 3rd party app store for however many years , and blocking an app due to out of app store payments is susser

[cerulean apex]

I'm good, thanks for asking

[gusty haven]

no im trying to fix my friends lol

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-fourth-of-july-f100-gif-22209859

[grim belfry]

How are you still going on about that lmao

[tardy terrace]

I'm familiar w/ bbs', but I also am tired of this silly conversation so I'm gonna go play halo w/ my gf

[grim belfry]

It’s been hours

[silk island]

that none option was there when i created my apple ID at 13

[shadow mulch]

I need my Mel Gibson NFTs rn

[shadow mulch]

you have a good one tho !

[manic torrent]

The guy is unhinged and just wants to find shit to complain about

[tardy terrace]

[silk island]

i can tell.

[strange elk]

heck. Yeah Im going too, idk why we are still talking about apple lmao

[grim belfry]

You could say he is in a “Mind Paradox”

[white pawn]

you can say that, but when i made my account i was given no option to continue past payment information without entering it.

[grim belfry]

Sorry still working on my dad jokes

[silk island]

okay??? bro grow up

[shadow mulch]

I tried talking about pretzels , but no one wanted it

[silk island]

stop complaining about the small things

[white pawn]

aaaand, thats me done talking with you 🙂 have a nice life

[tardy terrace]

i was down with the pretzel topic but paradox had to keep it about him :(

[short rock]

pretzels?

I want pretzels

[harsh quartz]

I talked about the pretzel too but food topics with Peyton here are like landmines

[tardy terrace]

I love me some honey mustard pretzels

[short rock]

who has pretzels

[tardy terrace]

lmao fuck you

[grim belfry]

Vegan landmines are delicious

[full fossil]

I took all the cables out of my pc to run it in wifi mode and now it wont work? it has wireless i dont understand

[strange elk]

I havent had a soft pretzel in ages

[silk island]

you complain about tiny tiny things dude. you got locked out of an apple id that likely had nothing even on it? it would make sense if you had lots of valuable stuff on it but didn't you literally just create it?

[strange elk]

I dont like hard ones

[harsh quartz]

“His head was replaced with lettuce”

[shadow mulch]

Did you know applesauce is a good egg replacement

[grim belfry]

Yes

[strange elk]

Flax meal too

[tardy terrace]

i wonder how applesauce would work as a binding agent in a meatloaf

[grim belfry]

Sometimes a bit of oil is needed too

[shadow mulch]

Honestly , Oatmeal and meatloaf , brown sugar though

[harsh quartz]

Actually rather well, this one’s been well documented iirc. Also using steak sauce instead of ketchup in the sauce is goated

[full fossil]

use egg

[strange elk]

We use both

[white pawn]

i seem to recall hardware bob telling me, before i blocked him by the way, that there was no way to reduce the sound levels in an older computer such that you couldn't hear the spinning hard drive 🙂 apaprently in his universe, dynamat and sound dampening foams don't exist. careful what you believ from him about people(i have him blocked, and dont wanna go clicking all his messages to find out)

[tardy terrace]

hot shit, duly fuckin' noted

[strange elk]

Panko breadcrumbs specifically though for binding

[grim belfry]

No thanks

[harsh quartz]

That’s cool too, we just don’t like a sweet sauce and the ketchup is too sweet

[strange elk]

Fair

[full fossil]

its the best for this

[shadow mulch]

Using bbq sauce is really good aswell , since it already contains vinegar and tomato sauce but including brown sugar

[tardy terrace]

saying that you've blocked him twice in the same message is so fucking pedantic it shows just how childish you are, and god do I hope you grow up sooner than later.

[white pawn]

pretty decently altho, i was kinda scared at first 🙂

[harsh quartz]

Bbq sauce is good but also very sweet, if it’s ketchup based

[grim belfry]

Depends what you want 🙂

[shadow mulch]

ngl idk who the bad guy is anymore , this feels like The avengers movies

[tardy terrace]

hail satan

[shadow mulch]

gotta cut it with more acid and a bit of water

[covert cradle]

thanos

[silk island]

maybe i was a bit rude with what i said. but why complain about things like the above? it doesn't solve anything, it just results in arguments

[grim belfry]

Hail the FSM 🍜

[harsh quartz]

Tbf, eggs are objectively the best food ever made, but on the other hand, vegans

[manic torrent]

Because he exists to complain

[silk island]

and blocking hardwarebob was a bit rude too

[shadow mulch]

we eat vegans ,m

[short rock]

love how the channel description says "all things LTT related".

nothing within the last hour or so was LTT related.

[tardy terrace]

hwbob is an amazing person tbh

[white pawn]

honestly it was cause i genuinely forgot i said i blocked him at the start of the comment. i would apologize for making an error, but that would probabvly be childish as well somehow

[strange elk]

Also mung

[grim belfry]

HardwareBob is a horrible person and I hate him because he sucks

[strange elk]

Flax for baking and mung for omelettes we used for egg a lot

[silk island]

his point kinda stands though. you block people merely because you disagree with them?

[manic torrent]

Ilybb

[short rock]

Bob is Bob

[long briar]

tbh, the beauty of being anonymous online is that you can be rude and not really face any repercussions

[short rock]

bob

[tardy terrace]

Even stating that you blocked him and then put some thinly-veiled insult towards the guy still proves my point, but i digress

[long briar]

Everything is as personal as you want it to be

[short rock]

reminds me of rowan atkinson's impression.
bob

[harsh quartz]

Godwins law always wins

[silk island]

lol they blocked me too

wanna know how i could tell? when you're blocked you can't see a person's roles anymore

[white pawn]

where was the insult? he LITERALLY, factually told me there was no way to reduce the sound levels of an older pc, regardless of reality.

[manic torrent]

And you can't react to their comments

[grim belfry]

I’m going to report you to Julie Inman Grant

[short rock]

that's kinda a feature

[manic torrent]

The awesome thing about this is it's exactly the same as the apple thing. You take something and twist the story in your mind until you are the victim

[tardy terrace]

and you're certain you're not forgetting any minute details of the conversation, kinda like how you've been just coasting on your apple tirade based off of old memory

[silk island]

they must've added that recently because not that long ago i remember when you could still see that stuff

[harsh quartz]

I’ll report you to Judi dench

[short rock]

yeah I think it's new

[grim belfry]

The esafety commissioner does not fuck around, I will get her onto you!

[short rock]

then again idk

[harsh quartz]

You think Judi dench does fuck around?

[manic torrent]

In pretty sure what I said was that categorically disks make noise, because they move. It's kinda how physics works.

[strange elk]

[white pawn]

nope, i said i had an older computer with a spindle motor hard drive in it that you can't hear spinning from outside the case. he told me it was impossible and then argued about it for quite a while.

[short rock]

I'll report all of you to Knuckles from Paddington

[harsh quartz]

Aight I’ll fuckin say it. Paddington is mid.

[manic torrent]

You've gone too far this time

[short rock]

mid? your taste is mid

[harsh quartz]

I’m down with kids movies but that one just didn’t do it for me

[strange elk]

First cd I ripped

[manic torrent]

Paddington is absolutely fucking GOAT.

[grim belfry]

Paddington is great

[short rock]

oh yeah I watched sonic 3 in theatre. it was nice

[harsh quartz]

That’s your European heritage bias talking

[grim belfry]

Umm…

[manic torrent]

Look, you're not wrong, but I'm still mad about it

[short rock]

not the best, not like paddington, but not absolute shit either.

[strange elk]

I forgot paddington even existed and I dont remember what it even was about lmao

[harsh quartz]

Bear. Prison. Funny hat.

[short rock]

bear? parents die? aunt sends him somewhere? named paddington by humans?

[strange elk]

I mean I remember the bear and the hat and that one bathtub scene

Bout it

[short rock]

...

[manic torrent]

Paddington has this absolutely INSANE premise "what if we tried being nice to people"

[grim belfry]

And a sandwich!

[harsh quartz]

Marmalade is somewhere in there

[silk island]

people don't have the capability to be nice in 2025

what is this button

[short rock]

bread

[silk island]

and why does it create bread

[strange elk]

🍞

[short rock]

[harsh quartz]

Well, maybe yall needed that premise, but we have enough southern hospitality.

[silk island]

bread icon 😂

[manic torrent]

Bless your heart

[harsh quartz]

You don’t get that

[strange elk]

Contextual I guess

[silk island]

u could use that premise too, to, y'know, be a nicer person.

[short rock]

hey, how do you get that and I don't

[strange elk]

I sure wouldnt lmfao

[grim belfry]

Fuck you

[silk island]

:P

[short rock]

favoritism

[grim belfry]

And fuck you too Polar

[short rock]

fuck everybody

[silk island]

😉

/j

[strange elk]

no pregnant

[short rock]

...

[manic torrent]

How is babby formed?

[harsh quartz]

Am I gregnant?

[strange elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/961945637564350484.webp?size=48&name=michael

[short rock]

can't say I'm surprised.

[silk island]

no you're pregananant

[short rock]

what next level organic chemistry logic are you applying

[silk island]

you don't get the reference i'm guessing

[strange elk]

Pragnet

[harsh quartz]

Pegnate

[short rock]

potato

[strange elk]

Pegante~

[short rock]

pagani zonda r

[silk island]

yeah you def aren't getting the reference

[short rock]

no shit sherlock

[silk island]

do some googling then

[short rock]

I prefer not to

[silk island]

why?

[strange elk]

https://tenor.com/view/pergant-pregernant-pergent-gif-8183353

[silk island]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EShUeudtaFg sigh

here then

[short rock]

for my own sanity I refuse to indulge myself

now I will bid you good day as I have to wake up family now

[silk island]

its literally just someone saying the yahoo answers titles 😭

[strange elk]

For your own sanity, why are you here then lmao, ah heading out

[grim belfry]

lol

[manic torrent]

Considering kids don't even realize yahoo answers existed

[silk island]

bruh my computer's responsiveness just took a giant dump

oops

didn't mean to say that as a reply

there we go, fixed, its responsive again

[alpine gale]

Yahoo Answers truly was a meme of people attempting to do be getting the Smart™-er. -Er.

[strange elk]

Thats just Quora now

[silk island]

there were other q&a sites similar to Yahoo Answers as well

[grim belfry]

Quora is just AI slop now

[strange elk]

imagine my surprise

[harsh quartz]

Are you gregnant?

[grim belfry]

And half of the (probably shit) answers are paywalled

[manic torrent]

Higher speed ram yeah

[silk island]

quora has always had shitty answers imo

[glass mural]

Quora is also an absolute gem of a website

[alpine gale]

Checks nametag. Gawd dang it, Bobby; not again!

[manic torrent]

Oh for a server? Yeah absolutely get ex server ram.

[grim belfry]

Sometimes for some super obscure things, it’s kind of okay

[silk island]

keywords being "kind of"

[harsh quartz]

I’ve never not regretted ending up on quora

[silk island]

so still not really

[glass mural]

Is quora boomer reddit?

[silk island]

yes.

[harsh quartz]

Not particularly

Iirc it was more a younger persons Reddit before Reddit got huge

[manic torrent]

Haha, I mean, I do, but the name is a happy coincidence

Tbh you don't actually need all that much ram

Also you don't need VMs. Containers are perfect.

[opal thunder]

Depends on price but yes

[white pawn]

found it 🙂 yeah, i said i couldn't hear the hard drive outside the case, he decided to tell me that i had to hear it because sound exists.

see, it REALLY sucks having a shitty short term memory, but a great long term memory, cause i can black hole a current conversation, but later on, recall it pretty fucking exactly

[silk island]

he literally isn't wrong though. the only way to silence a pc completely is to not have any physically moving components in the pc and have them be entirely solid state

[white pawn]

oh,and read the top comment(mine) in the picture. it gives why i finally blocked him a really good perspective.

[silk island]

as someone who used to have a physical disk in her pc, i could hear electrical noise of my 2.5" hard drive spinning and making noise even with the case completely sealed and closed

so, no, hardwarebob isn't even wrong

[white pawn]

cause, like i said, i couldn't hear it(subjective) he argued that i had to because noise exists(objective)

[grim belfry]

I just spend $70 on a bag of groceries, so, yeah :(

[manic torrent]

Oh yeah that's how it goes

[grim belfry]

I had guessed it was going to be about $50 lol

[manic torrent]

Oh dude. You are posting receipts that make you look absolutely unhinged

[strange elk]

I could hear my MX500 when it was outside of the case

[silk island]

he has the temper of a 5 year old child istg

[harsh quartz]

Don’t yall have taxes included on the shelf price?

[covert cradle]

Does any place even tax groceries?

[grim belfry]

We do, but I’m lucky enough to not have to add up the prices of my groceries

[silk island]

do you make food or do you buy pre-made food?

[manic torrent]

... Yes but you have multiple items in a bag, and when you aren't poor, you just get what you need and let them add it up

[manic torrent]

Yes

[grim belfry]

Non “essentials” are exempt from GST

[harsh quartz]

Where do you shop that doesn’t?

[silk island]

u do both?

[manic torrent]

Yes

[grim belfry]

Yes

[harsh quartz]

Wild take but aight

[silk island]

oh cool

[grim belfry]

Not at all a wild take

[white pawn]

i specifically installed sound dampening materials so that this older computer, that works beautifully with only passive cooling isn't noticeably making noise unless you put your head RIGHT on it. but because apparently it DOES make noise, that means it HAS to be noticed. thats like saying if you close your eyes you still see the wall because it's there.

[manic torrent]

... What? Grocery shopping for shit you need?

[silk island]

polar u make no sense sometimes

[covert cradle]

Every state I've ever visited? Which is like 9, so not that many tbf but still lol

[grim belfry]

If you are lucky enough to not worry about spending a bit more on groceries, there’s no need to add it all up

I’m going to buy it anyway

[harsh quartz]

No, your take wasn’t, but his take being “watching what you spend = poor” is wild

[grim belfry]

It kind of is though

[silk island]

um, its not actually wild. rich or well off ppl don't usually have to watch what they spend when it comes to groceries

[manic torrent]

Knowing the exact price of all of your groceries is absolutely being poor

[harsh quartz]

Knowing exact price ≠ looking at the price when you put it in the cart

[white pawn]

nahh, i watch what i spend, but i have more than enough saved that i can afford my transplant tomorrow iif it comes(not likely, but hope!) so i am definitely not poor 😛

[amber nymph]

What a bad time to join huh.

[strange elk]

yeah

[harsh quartz]

It’s been like this all night

[grim belfry]

I look at the price, yes. But I don’t add it up

[silk island]

mate just stop

[amber nymph]

I'm not rich yet I don't actually know the price of my stuff because I'm from Australia and GST is automatically a part of the price.

[silk island]

you're bringing up a ridiculous argument for no reason other than to stir up drama again

[strange elk]

I have to add it up lmao

[amber nymph]

Like wtf is this

[harsh quartz]

I don’t feel like adding it up would suddenly make someone automatically poor

[white pawn]

oh, i do, but i admit, i come from a very poor background, and was homeless at one point, the habit has not left simply cause i'm decently well off now

that and i can't afford all the toys i want if i don't pay attention to what i spend 🙂

[alpine gale]

I wish. This is one of my many dreams for a Better Society™.

[harsh quartz]

Like, I’ll 100% check the price and go with a cheaper option even if I can afford the more expensive one, if they’re equally good quality

[silk island]

Yep. Definitely Canadian. 😂

[manic torrent]

This is literally what privelege is. I don't have to care that much or waste my energy keeping exact track of spending.

[harsh quartz]

We truly live in of those

[amber nymph]

How cold is it for you guys?

[alpine gale]

I really need to re-watch that movie again. I think I'ma put it on after this round of APEX Legumes.

[amber nymph]

I realised this server is culturally Canadian so all the cads would join right?

[white pawn]

i could only wish the US would start doing this, but unfortunately, every time it gets proposed(i think its only been prosed twice tho) people freak out that suddenly everything will cost more if they do it that way LOL

[strange elk]

politics

[harsh quartz]

Never got into it, joker is mark hamill or heath ledger and I just don’t enjoy the others

[harsh quartz]

1/3 lb vs 1/4 lb moment

[amber nymph]

Ironically over here in Australia the taxation naturally rounds off and it isn't so stressful.

[white pawn]

ooh, no batman 1989? missing out, jack nicholson as the joker and no throat cancer batman 🙂

[manic torrent]

It's fucking hot as shit

[white pawn]

LOL exactly

[amber nymph]

I should find a receipt

[silk island]

nah, ltt's viewerbase is incredibly american-leaning

[harsh quartz]

The voice I can overlook for the rest of the movie being extremely good, also I’d rather just have animated dcu

[white pawn]

currently 32f here in Atlanta area

[silk island]

though it would be nice if ltt would stop giving prices only in USD in videos and spend the time to also provide them in Canadian dollars

[amber nymph]

Fair.

[silk island]

and ltt store needs to support the CAD 😭

[harsh quartz]

C?

[amber nymph]

Dude I couldn't imagine buying something over in the ltt store with there being no OCE store front.

[white pawn]

i liked the dark night trilogy the first time i watched it, but after that it seemed a bit flat onmm rewatches, cause the universe didn't really support the characters correctly to me. great acting tho from a lot of the cast

[grim belfry]

27° Centigrade

[silk island]

with how bad the usd-cad exchange rate is getting, ltt really, really should work on implementing support for other currencies.

[amber nymph]

Than again I got my dbrand skin coming in LOL

[grim belfry]

Holy fuck

[manic torrent]

I said it was hot as fuck

[grim belfry]

The prices would still be the same lol

[manic torrent]

.. or higher.

[silk island]

no, they wouldn't rapidly fluctuate every minute

[grim belfry]

It literally would

[silk island]

no

[grim belfry]

It wouldn’t be by the minute, but it would be regularly

[harsh quartz]

Just multiply it by 2 and it’s roughly the price of conversion and tax

[silk island]

apple doesn't rapidly change their prices just bc of currency fluctuations

[grim belfry]

Lttstore.com has to pay their currency conversion fees somehow

[manic torrent]

Apple can also tank it

[white pawn]

gonna assume she's talking about no cad pricing? i actually think it would be nice if they had both prices listed. i know i would hate having to always convert cad to usd when i wanted to buy something

[amber nymph]

Summer weather is so annoying. I like the heat but it makes playing hotter games on my pc a bother.

[grim belfry]

Apple is also a massive multinational

[manic torrent]

Good news, moonlight/sunshine solves that problem (if you have somewhere else to put your PC)

[amber nymph]

Without geolocation shit i have to manually convert it into aud for me.

[harsh quartz]

They could do regionally locked pricing but that would just make people angy

[silk island]

not supporting cad makes me angy

they're a canadian company not supporting the canadian dollar

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but no one cares about the Canadians

[grim belfry]

It’d literally just be more expensive for the consumer

[white pawn]

i can't handle the cold well myself due to health issues, wanna trade weather for a bit? 🙂

[silk island]

no, no it literally wouldn't

[amber nymph]

LOL

[harsh quartz]

Canada doesn’t support the Canadian dollar

[silk island]

because credit cards have a currency exchange rate that we have to pay

[manic torrent]

I'd say most of their customers are in the US paying USD.

[amber nymph]

I actually kinda hate the cold LOL

But hey why not

[grim belfry]

And LTT would have to pay that, plus the extra accounting costs

[manic torrent]

I imagine a lot of LTTs non payroll expenses are in USD anyway

[grim belfry]

Also their worldwide audience would prefer them to use USD than CAD

[waxen raft]

Anyone know what the best place would be to put Earbuds in the LTT backpack?

[grim belfry]

Lots of their income too

[silk island]

shopify offers support for multiple currencies...

[white pawn]

yeesh, you'd get the short end of the stick either way huh?

[grim belfry]

I’m sorry but you’re a fucking idiot

[silk island]

i'm sorry but no i'm not

[amber nymph]

Nah out cold isn't terrible but since I live in the hills its not uncommon for it to dip below 10C.

[strange elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1301956337646964747.webp?size=48&name=smoke

[silk island]

also watch the insults

[white pawn]

not owning one, i would still say the glasses pouch at the top? (can;t remember if it had a dedicated ear pods space)

[amber nymph]

And since I wake up early for work and walk up a hill I have to deal with it.

Which leans into getting depressed.

[harsh quartz]

Oh this was in Fahrenheit btw, for you still talking about the weather

[deft spear]

Hii

[grim belfry]

It’s my shtick

[silk island]

https://help.shopify.com/en/manual/payments/shopify-payments/multi-currency

[grim belfry]

That’s not the complex part…

[harsh quartz]

What are we supposed to do with this?

[waxen raft]

ah, i put my phone in there since i use the side pocket for a power bank, there is no ep space and my phone takes up all the space anyway

[white pawn]

oh yeah, im good down to like 6c or so, under that tho, i get a little wonky

[grim belfry]

LMG would still have to convert the currency back to (likely) USD

[white pawn]

oh, well, there goes my idea 🙂

[grim belfry]

So they would have to increase the pricing to account for that

[strange elk]

If they dont have an earbuds pouch on the strap Id be kinda surprised

[deft spear]

Isn't the usd like the world reserve currency?

[waxen raft]

don't worry, happens to the best of us

[grim belfry]

They’d probably also have to change payment gateways etc etc

[silk island]

thats fine if it means i don't have to deal with a 2.5% currency exchange rate on my credit card

[grim belfry]

Yes

[silk island]

no? their payments go through shopify's payment system

[grim belfry]

I forgot shopify was stupid like that

[amber nymph]

I think as a whole it can be summed that USD being a larger market. It would be cool if it were in CAD but it isn't that simple sadly.

[grim belfry]

Get a better credit card? The conversion fees would still be passed onto you

[amber nymph]

Dammit.

[harsh quartz]

If your in Canada just go buy the stuff in person when they do their events

[silk island]

the 2.5% is a nationwide percentage fee charged by all credit cards...

[grim belfry]

Even our frankly horrible business bank doesn’t charge for international transactions

Despite charging for literally everything else

[harsh quartz]

Can’t you just use Apple Pay or PayPal?

[white pawn]

won;t the system ltt uses automagically just show everyone their own local currency tho? it's just a setting on the merchant side if i recall from helping my sister set up her shopify. theres no extrea cost to the merchant or user

[grim belfry]

Okay, currency conversion fees are just how it works. LMG doing the conversion wouldn’t reduce the cost to you

[amber nymph]

Llt doesnt show local for me.

[silk island]

OH MY GOD

do you know how commerce works, specifically shopify?

[white pawn]

well, i think it has to be enabled if i recall. we laughed about it cause my sister currently has 4 customers that buy from her and they live within 200 miles of her house LOL

[amber nymph]

Eh its a minor annoyance to remind myself how much extra I have to pay.

[grim belfry]

Okay, say someone pays in AUD, LMG still has to convert that back to USD/CAD and pay the fee (which they would pass onto the consumer)

From a business standpoint it is 1000x easier for LMG to only accept USD payments

[silk island]

yes, but they're charged 2% whereas we are charged a 2.5% fee

because the currency conversion happens on our credit cards rather than going thru shopify

[harsh quartz]

Sounds like you should get a us credit card

[silk island]

sounds like you need to learn how credit cards work

because a canadian can't get a us credit card

[grim belfry]

They literally can

[white pawn]

nahh, you would see it in say, french francs, so thats what you would pay(hypothetically being from france of course) so no conversion there for you, i can't remember what the next step was, but LTT would get it in canadian for a really tiny amount per purchase, less than usual exchange rates. it might have been free, but i can't remember(doesn't sound QUITE right tho)

[harsh quartz]

Skissue

[silk island]

no, we literally cannot

[grim belfry]

I have an American AMEX in my wallet

[silk island]

AMEX has Canadian operations you pringle

[amber nymph]

Oh yeah I just went to France by the way. Amazing country.

But yeah i understand.

[grim belfry]

Amex also has an Australian division, but I have a US Amex card

[silk island]

bs

you literally can't get a us credit card, they require a social security number

[covert cradle]

nah, it's still 2.5% and they state it's automatically passed to the cutomer seen price for their currnecy

[grim belfry]

Global Transfer or something

[patent violet]

Canadians can get US Credit Cards and do so all the time to avoid exchange rates.

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, send photos for proof, make sure include the numbers for verification ;)

[silk island]

wrong

[alpine gale]

* unless you have a card / service that charges no currency exchange fees. 😉 Don't get me wrong; converting currency still sucks, but not paying an extra fee on top of the exchange rate is really lovely.

[silk island]

https://help.shopify.com/en/manual/international/pricing/fees taken from here

[amber nymph]

Then what's the fucking point of a conversion rate if people just avoid it between cad and usd.

[white pawn]

i found paris to be not living up to the hype, but the country side and small towns are friggin amazing! 🙂

[amber nymph]

Paris reminded me of hone.

Home.
I grew up in Adelaide and the architecture was similar.

[covert cradle]

ah, that's their other plan that requires the shop owner to manage everything

[amber nymph]

It wasn't mega special but I thought it was amazing.

[patent violet]

You select this when you are signing up for the CC as a Canadian

[grim belfry]

Yeah this

[silk island]

i have never once heard of any canadian i know being able to get an american credit card.

[wintry coral]

Don't know if anyone else has come across this but accidentally left my scribe driver extended and it jammed. Thankfully I was able to get it open with a vice (used cloth to not scuff it), and it is working again. But maybe everyone make sure to retract scribe driver when not in use.

[grim belfry]

I literally did it online a couple years ago

[patent violet]

Then you can use this

you provide your canadian ID and bang

[amber nymph]

I got to see the museum orsay and it genuinely allowed me to appreciate art.

It sounds so weird but you have to be there to examine the details and the message they wanted to convey.

[silk island]

where on earth are you seeing this

[patent violet]

We have services like Nova Credit which basically federate your foreign credit history to here in the US

https://princeoftravel.com/guides/getting-us-credit-cards-for-canadians/

[silk island]

it requires a us address which is what i mean by you basically need to be an american

[patent violet]

No you just need a US Mailing Address

that isnt a PO box

[harsh quartz]

Man it’s so nice being an American and just, not worry about any of this

[white pawn]

i only ever visited Sydney, Alice Springs and pine something or other when my dad was sent to the base there for a couple weeks i was a kid 😛 but i really liked it, id love to go scuba diving off the coast in several places one day

[patent violet]

In that article they used https://247parcel.com/

[harsh quartz]

Ironic. No further comment.

[winged spire]

We let Canadians use our banks??? Ewwww

[amber nymph]

Ahaha

My parents have been all around Australia.

[winged spire]

Do yall let the…. Quebec …. Do it?

[amber nymph]

I wasn't born so I really can't comment.

But they went around there with my sister and that and they have a few stories.

[grim belfry]

Hopefully I didn’t just dox myself

[winged spire]

You’re good

[winged spire]

lol

[harsh quartz]

I didn’t see anything sensitive

[alpine gale]

Welp, that's it - I'm now inside your walls.

[harsh quartz]

No further comment.

[winged spire]

What if we don’t let Canadians use real money… let them stick to their loony’s and tooneys

The Monopoly money fr

[grim belfry]

Yeah I had put my name dob and phone in on the previous page so I was hoping it didn’t show that lmao

[white pawn]

i really wanna go travel all the places i haven't been in the world one day. been a lotta places, but i genuinely like to try to see places like the people that live there do, not just as a tourist

[amber nymph]

Oh yeah

[winged spire]

I love traveling

[harsh quartz]

Too late. I now know your name is…. Idk you feel like a Tim, Timothy, Timtam, something like that

[grim belfry]

You have more pressing things to worry about lmao

[white pawn]

hey, stay out of his kitchen cabinets, i already moved in! 🙂

[grim belfry]

@molten osprey

[patent violet]

I forget which Canadian bank it is with US Counterparts, its a large one but one of them actually does null exchanges of large portions of their CAD into USD in order to invest it instead of holding it as CAD and investing it as CAD for some reason

[winged spire]

I’ve done the parts of the Middle East that will actually let me in, did like 2 dozen European countries

[alpine gale]

Cabinet's are all your's - I don't want any of that moldy bread anyway.

[winged spire]

I wanna do Asia next but I’m broke af lmao

[harsh quartz]

What do they have to do with this

[grim belfry]

She likes using my real name

[harsh quartz]

It’s timtam , I knew it

[grim belfry]

And topslop :(

[white pawn]

for me it gives me an excuse to try new things that otherwise i might not cause of the wierd rejection thing of autism that makes me wanna always do the same things 😛 (I fight that shit REALLY hard, not always successfully LOL)

[harsh quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1131702786141208639/1318538576048422953/IMG_7701.gif

[winged spire]

Highly recommend traveling with an extrovert

I’m an introvert through and through so I need an extrovert to adopt me usually

[white pawn]

dunno, we have so much else to worry about :/

[winged spire]

lol

I’m on the way To CES

[grim belfry]

Excited to see the AI toasters?

[harsh quartz]

AI bidets tied into webMD

[winged spire]

Networking irl like that makes me want to detonate so I’ll have to push through for the sake of my career

[winged spire]

Excited for that AI steak cooker

[white pawn]

i am somehow an introverted extrovert due to the autism+ADHD combo, but my social battery runs out REALLY fast in face to face situations

[winged spire]

Free steak is always based

[amber nymph]

@white pawn i have to get food cause it's dinner here but hey that's cool you've been here and there.

[unreal turtle]

toasters with screens to serve you ads

[amber nymph]

32f doesn't sound fun.

[winged spire]

If that makes the toaster free .. bet

[harsh quartz]

32f is fine

[winged spire]

lol

[grim belfry]

I should go to techspo this year

[amber nymph]

0 degree weather is shit.

[winged spire]

Nah

[harsh quartz]

32f is fine, 10-0f is when it starts to get fun

[white pawn]

i have yet in my life to turn down free steak 😛 i hope to never have to

[winged spire]

Cold > hot

[unreal turtle]

every time you press the button, it will order you two slices of bread from uber eats

[winged spire]

Exactly !

The key note I’m most excited for is the delta airlines one

[harsh quartz]

We’re about to get hit by a “polar vortex”

[winged spire]

No idea what they could be showing off but it’s IN the sphere with full visuals and an open bar

[white pawn]

wait, are we still about to, or has it started to hit? i haven;t been paying attention

[harsh quartz]

Idk, specifically where I’m at it hasn’t started

[alpine gale]

* at the cost of 2 whole loaves of bread. butter / jam / spreads not included.

[grim belfry]

Don’t forget to tip!

[white pawn]

hey, don't make me hungry LOL i still have papa johns cheese sauce, but im outta crazy bread 🙂

[harsh quartz]

+fees

[silk island]

imo domino's is better than papa johns, at least here in canada

the toppings papa john's use here for their pizzas are a bit hard 😭

specifically their meats

[prime solstice]

My family gets tj pizza since there’s one that walking distance from my house

[silk island]

uber eats is a thing

[prime solstice]

My family can’t afford uber eats everytime we want something

[white pawn]

i've never heard of it, where is that from if ya don't mind me asking?

[silk island]

fair enough

[prime solstice]

They’re from Saskatchewan

[silk island]

oh another prairie Canadian

[prime solstice]

Yes except I’m from Alberta

[white pawn]

explains why i've never heard of it, never been there 🙂

[amber nymph]

A what?

[silk island]

Canadian who lives in a prairie province. lol.

[silk island]

Me too 😛

[amber nymph]

I'm obviously from Australia so you know. I have no idea what the hell everyone is on about.

[silk island]

google the canadian provinces lol

[prime solstice]

Just note Nunavut is a pain in the ass to color on the map

[amber nymph]

Have an open mind that people are from different regions with different tolerances.

[white pawn]

dunno about anyone else, i was learning about a new pizza place ive never eaten at 🙂

[amber nymph]

Haha

[winged spire]

I live in Louisiana

[amber nymph]

In France in the north countryside I had a really nice pizza.

[amber nymph]

Doesn't change the fact that you should have an open mind.

[winged spire]

💀

[prime solstice]

Actually there’s 2 pizza places that’s in the strip mall near my house

[silk island]

new orleans?

[white pawn]

i have a list of about 60 places that i wanna go and have the best local pizza i can find(amopng other things)

[winged spire]

Yh when not at school

[amber nymph]

I remember a place my mate and I went to that had meatball pizza.

[silk island]

not surprised, new orleans is like the most popular place in LA

[amber nymph]

It was really nice.

[white pawn]

i make sinners jambalya 🙂 (no seafood. only chicken and sausage)

[winged spire]

That ain’t that bad

[silk island]

literally only australian slang i know is g'day mate

[winged spire]

What sausage

[amber nymph]

As it goes.

[silk island]

😂

even though i watch dankpods who is australian

[white pawn]

umm, it depends on how im feeling the day i make it, sometimes i use kielbasa, sometimes i handmake my own sausage

[livid hatch]

ello

[white pawn]

and then i usually toss in some premade chicken sausage, and some chicken breasts nicely chunked

[winged spire]

Homemade deer sausage is peak

[amber nymph]

By the way that's not even slang that's just a phrase. If you want real slang its like going to the bottlo in the arvo.

[white pawn]

i havent been brave enough to try it

[prime solstice]

My dad used to make beef jerky out of deer meat it was good

[silk island]

what the heck does that mean 😂

[winged spire]

Deer? Nah that shit is delicious

[amber nymph]

Its slang.

[silk island]

i knowwww