public-chat

[strange elk]

Like I didnt care before because its not like they were tracking absolutely everything early on.

[winged spire]

Ads are convenient

[lusty fulcrum]

🚀❤️

[winged spire]

If they track me, they’re more likely to be stuff I want and I love learning about all the new tech shit

[white pawn]

yep, that is one thing i don't compromise on. i paid to get a lifetime license for a really good system level adblocker for all of my devices

[dusty dove]

Idc for ads

If it's anything big purchase, u gonna do research regardless u saw the ad for it or not

[winged spire]

If I get 300 dog food ads a day that’s a nuisance

[dusty dove]

Maybe a $1 candy bar ok

[strange elk]

I dont have money, so youve got nothing to sell to me. If I want it Ill probably find it myself, theres so many options these days

[white pawn]

the ad thing for me is literally one of sanity. once i have heard a thing 3-5 times i have it permanently memorized

[strange elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/961169977203892244.webp?size=48&name=sansShrug

[dusty dove]

Those stupid ass jingles

[dusty dove]

I think the point is to put it subconsciously in the back of your head

So when u are ready looking to buy, their brand is on top on the list of research

[white pawn]

i am a walking encyclopedia of saturday morning TV commercials from about 80- 94 or so, and radio commercials from around 80 to 99

[winged spire]

1877 Kars 4 kids

[white pawn]

fuck. you.

🙂

[strange elk]

Programming

[winged spire]

😭

[strange elk]

Ive heard "raid shadow legends" too many times in my life to really care

[dusty dove]

Ppl are dumb

They fall for anything

Especially brain rot generation

Wait till those people are in their 30s and 40s. Then shit will be fun to watch

[white pawn]

i was about to say, the worst part is that i ALWAYS have a constant running personal radio station in my head of songs, tv and movie quotes, commercials, various conversations, dialogue from games, etc running thru my head all the time, that adjusts itself depending on what im seeing or hearing around me(and sometime stouch)

usually ads at this point are more likely to turn me away from a product

on the plus side, im GREAT at karaoke since i basically have all of rock, metal and alternative radio for like 2 decades memorized 😛

[strange elk]

I mean I dont care for refined sugars much anymore these days so thats like 90% of food commercials lmao

[dusty dove]

Maybe go out for awhile . Ya it get annoying

I had commercial and just regular songs stuck in my head

Or some random movie quote the radio host talked about

Sometimes it's a couple days sometimes is a couple months till it goes away for me

[white pawn]

it never goes away for me

[dusty dove]

Need to watch new content

That would 'push out" old stuff

[white pawn]

nope 🙂 i wish

[dusty dove]

Like ya everyone here probably head karts4kids and probably had it stuck for some time

But eventually most ppl here get over it

[strange elk]

The 90s. Probably sooner get amnesia or dementia

[dusty dove]

Maybe because ppl don't watch much TV anymore and those are TV commercials not on TikTok or YouTube like raid shadows

[white pawn]

i can still recite the first song i ever learned from start to finish, in tune, correct timing, at a moment's notice. but in my head i also hear the instruments

[dusty dove]

I bet kids these days probably never head of kar4kid song

[strange elk]

I dont think adults these days have

[dusty dove]

I have too much stuff to do to have boredom for my brain to keep song on repeat for months

Maybe a few weeks

[white pawn]

usually every night around 10:30pm i remember the kars for kids tune, cause thats around with the radio station in prison would start to play it every night back in 97 😛

[dusty dove]

Good memories lol

[white pawn]

yeah, for me, boredom is not actively doing anything while 20 different things are happening in my head

but, i do get some cool things out of it too

one of the reasons i got into wood working and lego is because i can look at the pieces, and then see them in my head like the way Tony Stark bulds things with his hologram thingy in the Iron man movies

[strange elk]

I HATE THAT

[white pawn]

but i not only see them in full 3d and color in my head, i can smell the wood, and feel it too

[dusty dove]

Go play some overwatch lol

[winged spire]

Dead internet theory is real lol

This is a fully AI account ran by Facebook bruh

[white pawn]

oh god no LOL was not a fan 😛

[strange elk]

I can do that but I can NEVER put it on paper. Everything I try to express comes out shit or abstract lmao

[white pawn]

but, i play Everqest, and a LOT of other games 🙂

[dusty dove]

Maplestory was my drug of choice

[white pawn]

i was lucky enough to have a friend for a while(he died in 2018, my personal year of hell) who could take whatever i said and translate it perfectly to paper so i could share it with others

[strange elk]

Honestly Zuckerburg would be the first one to do it wouldnt he

[dusty dove]

Only because that's the only game my crap PC would run

We couldn't afford video games, parents no credit card. There was no steam cards physically at target till i was in high school

[white pawn]

he was so happy that he finally found someone he could "see" what they were saying, and i had someone who could make what i saw real

[winged spire]

You can also tell they put literally 0 effort into keeping them coherent

“Momma of 2”

[white pawn]

hey, maplestory was not a bad game 🙂

[winged spire]

5 kids, 1 kid, 3 kids

[strange elk]

"your realest source"

[white pawn]

it honestly just wasn't complex enough to keep my attention for a long period, but it was a very fun year or so that i played

[dusty dove]

Ya Iwas sucked in

It was my personality, my world

[strange elk]

I mean the 2005 high school news pitch alone tells you

[white pawn]

well, complex in the weay that i liked

[dusty dove]

I was poor and had nothing irl

But in game I was semi rich

It was my escape

[white pawn]

that was EQ for me. i was trying the early access for Pantheon and it got me wondering what starting over in eq would be like, and now im addicted to EQ again LOL

[strange elk]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-gauss-gauss-prime-gif-2327414794049684011

[white pawn]

is thgat even a 2005 high school pitch? sounds like something straight outta the 90s LOL

[dusty dove]

Aren't u glad u did spend all that time in game?
I did

[white pawn]

mayve it's just that high school doesn't really change

[white pawn]

yeah, i actually have friends i've met in the real world from that game still

all over the world

has made travelling a lot easier cause i knew i would know someone in a lot of the places

[dusty dove]

Me too 🤗

[strange elk]

Well my peers didnt seem to give much of a shit about anything but fifa on PS4, shoes, cars and sports.

[deep fern]

is 4070 + ryzen 9 5900x a good combo?

[white pawn]

in my high school it was sega vs nintendo, skateboards, cars and sports 😛

[strange elk]

PS v Xbox was middle school/elementary

[white pawn]

yeah, i was 12 when the OG nintendo came out

[strange elk]

I was like.. -1 when the PS2 did lmao

[white pawn]

kinda funny to think my kids are younger than xbox LOL

oh! no they arent! the first one released in November of 01

[strange elk]

I mean Im at least older than the global release of the Xbox

[white pawn]

so they both are older barely LOL

[strange elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1144835608561336392.webp?size=48&name=Void_Loaf

[white pawn]

i'm less than a month younger than star wars 🙂

[strange elk]

lol

[white pawn]

thought i was older for the longest time, then i learned that the town i was born in was in the last wave of theater releases

[strange elk]

Radio show?

[white pawn]

pfffft you 😛

[strange elk]

rip

[white pawn]

wow

[strange elk]

I keep forgetting I did actually listen to the cds before I watched the movies (which I still actually havent done)

[white pawn]

lemme try that again. there was an am radio station that played old Flash Gordon and (the alternate name for Richard) Tracy radio plays tho. i used to listen to them at night once my parents went to bed

cause yeah, the alternate name for Richard gets warshipped LOL

[strange elk]

Thats cool lmao. It was mostly gospel on AM by the time I had my radio

So I just listened to local rock, alt and pop most of the time, not the most interesting.

[white pawn]

we had a really cool bunch of radio stations, cause it was a college town

one of the radio stations is still going under the same ownership in fact. still belting out rock/hard rock/metal stuff 24 hours a day

[strange elk]

Thats pretty awesome. Lot of dedication I suppose

[white pawn]

i think more it's always been a super popular radio station cause they basically let the college kids decide the playlist by voting, with some rules inserted to prevent anything being too overplayed

like, sure, you can have 12 pearl jam songs in a 2 hours period, but they have to be from different albums and you can only have two of the most popular singles. stuff like that

so it gets a LOT of b side tracks and stuff from a lot of different bands

[strange elk]

Thats awesome. It was a lot of the same stuff just by default here

[white pawn]

yeah, we had a station here in atlanta called 99X, that is sadly a shell of it's former self cause they bet HUGE on internet radio about 10 years too early

they basically went from being one of the largest radio stations in several states to being essentially off the air

they had a program called "99x Freeloaders" that got you into concerts for free, and discounts on food and drink all over atlanta, and even discounts at stores and stuff

during the time i was homeless, i saw a LOT of concerts, cause i really didn't have anything better to do, and a lotta the time, there was free food and drinks and some companies gave out shirts and stuff

[exotic gulch]

hello.

[snow magnet]

Huh

[sudden gazelle]

My friend signed up for "guns.lol" and wondered why his email was in the spam folder

[strange elk]

Im trying to get a bit more into music nowadays, trying to listen to more albums than singles

[white pawn]

anyway, here is a really good video that pretty much anyone who plays games will laugh at 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy-A3CLMunA

[strange elk]

Part of why I just want a dedicated device for it. Itll all be stored on my PC or something as well but itll just be easier to manage in one place and Ill have a good sounding device to do it on

[white pawn]

i like the youtube rabbit holes of of music, and amazon music has an option that basically uses my favorite stuff and then suggest stuff that i may not have heard. it's usually pretty good, but unlike spotify and pandora, turning down a new song simply turns down that song, and doesn't fuck your entire playlist you've been working on

[polar fern]

Well, I learned something today. Never try to pick up a terrified cat. Normally animals are super chill with me, but I guess he was just completely freaked out. Hopefully I won’t get an infection from the extremely severe punctures and gashes I received from his little paw mounted daggers.

[obsidian oracle]

cat

[polar fern]

Yis

[obsidian oracle]

i got bullied by cats my whole life, never died so ur fine

[fading scarab]

that is one aggressive kitty

[obsidian oracle]

including countless stray cats

[stray path]

guys what do i do with a G4 mac mini ?
could build an 8000 series ryzen gaming pc in it

[clever ibex]

Hello new here just wanted to say hi

[obsidian oracle]

hi

[clever ibex]

Hi

[polar fern]

He’s not aggressive at all actually, he was just completely terrified

Normally, he’s so gentle and passive

[cerulean talon]

I love your profile pic transitbiker

[polar fern]

😎🖖

[obsidian oracle]

i love triangles too

they have funky equations

[strange elk]

👽 🖖

[obsidian oracle]

from what tho

[polar fern]

Triangles have an insidious history and the reason why they’re incorporated into the progress pride flag is pretty grim.

My girlfriend got a treadmill for Christmas and he’s been completely freaked out by it since we took it out of the box

[obsidian oracle]

lololol

stupid ass black cat moment

how hard was ur grip to get that bad scars tho

[polar fern]

He’s a tuxedo, not black

I went to pick him up and he turned into a ball of claws and ran away

[regal lintel]

he's innocent

look at that goofy stare

[polar fern]

He’s an absolute sweetheart and extremely docile normally

[full fossil]

hes so cute

[slim barn]

It's faulty. Scrap it or open it up for parts. And get a new one.

[regal lintel]

😭

[polar fern]

Yis. Very cute. @full fossil

[idle nymph]

It's neat

[full fossil]

whats better amd or nvidia

for path of exile 2

[strange elk]

3d Voodoo Graphics

[regal lintel]

you don't buy a gpu solely for one game

[viscid elm]

looks like going amd might be better

[regal lintel]

amd is still wiser choice for budget

[viscid elm]

also from what i can see it does not have some crashing issue with PoE2

[regal lintel]

weird

[eager notch]

Ngl this seems a bit too hot for a USB charger

[bitter harbor]

At least there is no salmonella so you can safely eat it.

[tropic brook]

Hello

[thick osprey]

Reminds me of that time one of my friends bought this bargain bin electric kettle. Turned it on to make some coffee in the morning and allegedly forgot all about it, went to prepare his stuff for work, packed the laptop and all the necessary gear, went to take a shower and shave, came out of the bathroom to notice something smells off. The kettle melted over the counter. Probably the thermostat or whatever it was supposed to use just wasn't there or malfunctioned and it kept heating indefinitely

The worst thermal disaster I ever personally had was me trying to dry off a phone I got wet, using a desk lamp. Had the bright idea to turn the lamp upwards and just propped the phone on it. The phone melted..

[obsidian oracle]

high cat

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1220804864452333588.png?size=160&name=necoarc+passing+blunt

take this and get higher

[sweet panther]

crazy work

[calm swan]

god no

used 13p is $429

[full fossil]

No, you could buy a used 14 Pro

[calm swan]

or like p8p, p7p

[full fossil]

$429 in 2022 is $462.50 in today's dollars, so only an absolute decrease of $33.50

In 3 years

[sweet panther]

you mean increase right

[full fossil]

Decrease

[sweet panther]

brain no breian

[full fossil]

When accounting for that $429 in 2022 is worth more than $429 in 2025

[sweet panther]

o

[full fossil]

It costs like $100 used on eBay

[sweet panther]

yuh inflation

ebay bad place

very scary area

[glass flume]

hello

[cinder quiver]

hey guys, when do you think benchmarks for the new gpus are going to be released? Because I would like ot know if I want to buy current gen or new gen before they are actually launched

[viscid elm]

how in the hell should we even get actual performance numbers without the day one drivers that are needed to even get close to testing the performance of the card

[minor vale]

https://www.newegg.com/nvidia-founders-edition-900-1g143-2515-000-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-8gb-gddr6x/p/N82E16814132097T?Item=N82E16814132097T&SoldByNewegg=1

[cinder quiver]

i dont know bro, that's why im asking? 💀

[minor vale]

is this a steal??

[cinder quiver]

tech tubers get new phones before they are launched to public all the time, i don't know if the same happens with gpus, that's why im asking. chill

[river acorn]

Hi

[neon mesa]

They do, but there's something called embargo

[cinder quiver]

what's that

[neon mesa]

Tech tubers are not allowed to talk about the product in detail

Prohibited by the manufacturer

Until that embargo is lifted

[patent violet]

They basically want the reviews released the day of launch.

But the reviews need to happen 1/2 weeks prior

Because you know.. editing

[cinder quiver]

so when people buy cards at launch they normally just buy it "blindly"? of course not totally because the specs are there but without any actual benchmarks

[alpine gale]

Likely when the embargo / NDA's stipulate such information can be shared.

[cinder quiver]

oh ok that would be nice

[patent violet]

but yes people buy stuff blindly at launch all the time

in fact thats part of the problem with consumerisim that leads to trash products being allowed

[neon mesa]

Intel released the embargo for battlemage before launch iirc

[patent violet]

"Oh bigger number! Must get"

In fact, thats 90% of the purchases really

[cinder quiver]

yea! That's what im trying to avoid, It's not like I can buy something as expensive as a GPU all the time, I want to be sure i choose correctly

[patent violet]

You dont have to buy new

[cinder quiver]

Yea I know, that's also why I'm trying to see the benchmarks, so I know if current gen is a better deal

[patent violet]

Current released gen is a guaranteed outcome

"new" stuff is not, even after initial benchmarks

[neon mesa]

Used will always be the better deal

But of course there are tradeoffs

[cinder quiver]

true. I just don't want to buy now so close to reveal. I won't get my psu until the 10th so I have no reason not to wait for the CES reveal

[cinder quiver]

I have bad bad experience with used, when it comes to components I prefer new if possible

[white pawn]

it's an 8gb card that is likely gonna struggle with newer games very soon, but if you aren't pushing into the latest greatest games, thats a decent deal

[minor vale]

i currently have a 6gb 1660 super ive been using for 4 years so i figured this was a solid upgrade

[white pawn]

yeah, usually the attitude is "4060 MUST be better than a 3060 cause newer and higher number, yes?" doesn't always work out that way, but hey 😛

[white pawn]

oh yeah, thats gonna be a huge jump

[minor vale]

also this 1660 super has been serving me surprisingly extremely well

i average a good 90fps on most games sometimes higher

[white pawn]

i'm absolutely waiting, i have a 3060 12gb right now, ill either be getting the 24gb battlemage card when it comes out or selling my house for a down payment for a 5090

[white pawn]

my wife has a 1660 oc from gigabyte that she's rocking, and its a really solid card

[civic fox]

i'll probably get the B580 from a 1080ti when i have games that cant run well on my current card

but for now i am fine with my card

[white pawn]

i went to the 3060 12g from my own 1660 oc cause of a particular couple of games it was struggling with, and was a really good upgrade

[minor vale]

this should be a good purchase then huh

i honestly hate to say it but i have brand loyalty and i think this is the best thing within my budget

[white pawn]

when i got the 1660s, they were in prebuilts from dell that ended up being cheaper than just buying the cards themselves at the time LOL

[civic fox]

i have a 4gig 1650 on my desk atm. no idea what to do with it. My 1080ti is in my pc now.

[white pawn]

i've been an nvidia guy for a LOONG time, first one was a Geforce 2 MX 🙂 but if i can get similar performance for less than half the cost?

[white pawn]

retro gaming pc 🙂 that 1650 will render the everloving SHIT outta some dos games 🙂

or, you could setup your own MAME arcade unit with a little bit of woodworking and electronics tinkering(assuming you wanna make the stuff instead of buy it which is cool too)

[civic fox]

yea if i had more parts for a pc i would make a emulator pc of sorts

[pliant karma]

started with a 1050 since then 3 gpu upgrades but tis my last one until I build a whole new system

But part of me hunted for get a lower price on my current gpu so kudos there.

[white pawn]

yeah, my main bottleneck on a lot of projects is motherboards 😛 i have everything else in large quantities, but motherboards seem to be the one part that just does not end up staying alive over time 😛

[civic fox]

all i got is a spare gpu lol nothing else

[minor vale]

i think im gonna make the purchase should i

[white pawn]

you are a far more patient person than I LOL i build my systems with the intention that they will get one video card upgrade, usually around 4 years after i built them. then, 4 years after that, i build a new pc and the old one gets turned into whatever whacko thing i have on my mind at the time

[white pawn]

if it were me, i would probably do it, assuming i wasn't gonna hurt myself financially with the purchase

[pliant karma]

oh and all the gpu upgrades were due to game constraints too. FS2020 first then after that when I got into more racing sims

[white pawn]

yup, thats usually what pushes me for upgrades, altho my 660GTX lasted WAY longer than i thought it would, due to the game my wife and i were playing together at the time

[pliant karma]

7900xt still struggles a bit but I got 20gb at my disposal vs the 8gb I had before.

[white pawn]

i ended up goin from the 660GTX to a 1050TI

[white pawn]

you pushin 4k with it?

[pliant karma]

starting to yea

lowered to 1440 so it's better there.

[white pawn]

i'm still over here on 1080 cause i cannot stand the jerkiness of an inconsistent framerate

[pliant karma]

still cranked the settings maxed out cause why not.

[white pawn]

gimme the shittiest graphics in the world, just don't let the game hitch

[civic fox]

i still game max settings at 1080p

[fringe lance]

ur the one with the wife right?

[pliant karma]

The one thing I am battling with is AMD's Adrenaline application not opening like 90% of the time

[white pawn]

ive got twin 27 inch 1080 <1 ms response time monitors (only 60hz, but thats perfectly fine as long as its consistent with no drops)

[fringe lance]

do you not find them more blurry? i found 27 1080 was awful for tv

[civic fox]

i also got a 1080p 27 inch its curved though with a nice 144hz

[white pawn]

i would have switched up in resolution if i had gone with bigger monitors i think, to me 27 inch is about as big as ya really want for 1080

[pliant karma]

lol to update or not to update

[white pawn]

oh, i don't use em for tv at all, for gaming they are perfectly fine, altho im sure a 4k monitor would be noticeably clearer, i had no desire to spend the money on a video card to drive it

and besides, i still fire up my Atari 2600 on a CRT and play games, i'm definitely not lookin for top of the line graphics when i game 🙂

[pliant karma]

also wtf windows

[civic fox]

27 inches is to big for 1080p in my opinion but its alright

[fringe lance]

27 1080p on a qhd display looks good

[white pawn]

but, when i do upgrade, it will be to 4k low input lag monitors, but only once i have a video card that can drive 4k at at least 60fps consistently in everything, with 1% lows of 50fps or better at a minimum

[civic fox]

i'm kinda curious how do people use laptops with the scaling that big

[pliant karma]

I rarely use this laptop haha

[neon mesa]

Is it really the GPU?

[civic fox]

probably

[neon mesa]

Might be CPU

[civic fox]

ah alright i just never understood completely how people do it

[white pawn]

right there with ya, drives me nutso when the default window sizes are huge like that

[neon mesa]

My 5700x3D can only push like 60 on the ground 😆

[pliant karma]

5900x is chilling for the most part surprisingly.

[fringe lance]

i use amds super resolution to upscale my 1080p vertical

[civic fox]

yea i have to make it like 100 anything above is rough

[pliant karma]

tbf doing 4k on that gpu is a lot to ask especially what settings I play at haha.

[civic fox]

my card can drive 1440p i just don't own a 1440p monitor yet

[neon mesa]

I push 5k for VR on my 3080ti and it's still CPU limited :/

GPU usage only hovers 60-70

[white pawn]

have you tried Freeland VR? 🙂

[neon mesa]

Might need 7800x3D someday

[neon mesa]

Never heard of it

[civic fox]

i would love one lol

[white pawn]

it's basically the mmo that they invented for ready player one, just not a combination of existing properties. spaceships dragons swords magic and machineguns 🙂

[neon mesa]

Only interested in flight sims, that's what i use vr for

Well and extras like beat saber and blade and sorcery and pavlov

But mostly flight sim

[minor vale]

is it not a good idea to buy a refurbished gpu now im kinda worried

the deal seems great but people are telling me refurbished is like bad

[civic fox]

crazy how steam wants to install fallout 4 again even though its installed already

[white pawn]

ehh, does ths site you are buying from have robust customer protections and a good return policy where you are at?

if so, i wouldn't honestly worry too much

[minor vale]

it is newegg so probably?

i think newegg is pretty trusted right

[civic fox]

nvm i seemed to fix it its re-validating now

[white pawn]

yeah, they are pretty trusted

[small cosmos]

mind if i ask a quick question? whats the best affordable ipad that has apple pencil support

[covert cradle]

they have marketplace scalpers/sellers which will have their own return policy

[minor vale]

gulp

[white pawn]

that was a very slow question, put on your dunce hat, climb up the ladder and sit in the platypus

(i have no idea, so you got a smart aleck response)

[fringe lance]

ask google

[cyan creek]

Hello 🙂 I am new to this discord but have been watching LTT since like 2015

[obsidian oracle]

hii

[rapid jackal]

odd...WAN show on twitch keeps buffering for me.

but I can watch other twitch streams fine

[brazen lance]

My ass hurts from siting on my gaming chair

I got it only like 6 months ago

[rapid jackal]

you got your ass 6 months ago?

[quasi belfry]

Ok

[full fossil]

a

[obsidian oracle]

a

nice black sticker, disappears on my black background

[full fossil]

dang

[rustic tundra]

so 32gs95 is the ultimate monitor

[obsidian oracle]

the what now

ah 32" 4k oled, yea no

only if it was 27" 4k oled with 480hz 1440p 27" mode

so the monitor ltt reviewed the latest rn mixed with that one monitor short circuit reviewed a few weeks ago

[gilded quest]

No you don't want fractional scaling

Not in that firmware based mode

It would be 480hz 1080p as the second option

[obsidian oracle]

idk man 480hz sounds good to me

[obsidian oracle]

perhaps, perhaps

[gilded quest]

Plus at 480hz.... you're gonna need it to be 1080p

[obsidian oracle]

yea figured that

but 1440p 480hz sounds cooler

[hazy parrot]

the valorant / cs2 monitor?

wack.

[obsidian oracle]

cs2 is rough, idk 480hz 1440p for cs2

[hazy parrot]

gimme a G9 Neo

[obsidian oracle]

but valorant sure, its fucking roblox with guns

[tall sonnet]

is it known when windows laptop with thunderbolt 5 are coming?

[hazy parrot]

are people even saturating 4 already?

[tall sonnet]

seems like a big upgrade for docking (which is what i want it for mainly), and of course just transfer to an external drive quickly. mainly i just don't want to get a thunderbolt 4 laptop now only for thunderbolt 5 to come out in like a month or whatever if it's going to be that soon

[civic fox]

never even seen a thunderbolt port let alone used one yet

[tall sonnet]

if you've seen a laptop that came out in the last 5 years i would bet you have seen one, maybe not knowingly

[hazy parrot]

they've taken over the office and commercial world. Even thin clients are starting to see thin....laptops instead

[civic fox]

i mean my current laptop that i bought september doesn't have one so technecially i just haven't used one

it has USB charging but not thunderbolt according to google

[tall sonnet]

amd i would assume?

[civic fox]

no intel.

[tall sonnet]

oh that's interesting!

[civic fox]

yea it kinda is

[hazy parrot]

if you ever had one of these cross your mind buying a laptop. You made sure your laptop had thunderbolt

[tall sonnet]

that's insane actually, even $500 intel laptops have thunderbolt

[civic fox]

erm mine was 622

[tall sonnet]

yeah i'm still surprised it doesn't have one

[civic fox]

me too

[slim knoll]

hi

[sinful dome]

Best nvidia gpu for 500-600 usd

[river acorn]

RTX 4070

[safe helm]

Yo guys i have one scammer what do I do with him?

[river acorn]

kill him

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-amd-ryzen-4070-rtx-4070-gif-16743319857322994151

[safe helm]

like I want to ban him

[river acorn]

Mmmmmmh

Block him

[safe helm]

ok but is gonna do this again and again

[neon mesa]

anyone know a software to mirror pc screen over LAN
like miracast but not miracast

basically like this. but this one is kinda garbage

i can just open the local IP on the browser

[bitter harbor]

Play this for them https://youtu.be/90DxSaOKAKY?si=7HT8Yq2rKlJo83Zq

[mortal kraken]

I've used nomachine before, it's more like a P2P TeamViewer like thing, not exactly workable by the browser on any side

[neon mesa]

the accesible via browser thing is kinda a must

because i wanna mirror to my shitty TV which has some weird OS

[gilded quest]

Sure, but not as a dual mode monitor

[obsidian oracle]

yea i figured that

[hazy parrot]

I use rdp with a pi4

[neon mesa]

RDP requires special software on the client

i need it to be accesible via browser

[hazy parrot]

Oh I see what you need. I have no idea though. But I'm sure it exists

[hazy parrot]

https://github.com/Ylianst/MeshCentral

Seems to hit the mark on the dot. If the client can open a local ip. You got your solution

[manic torrent]

And your TV doesn't have..... HDMI...

[neon mesa]

sure let me just move my entire PC downstairs

[hazy parrot]

The pi would make this way more viable for gaming

[neon mesa]

disconnecting the bezillion cables

it's overall pain

[manic torrent]

You are missing the point, you could plug anything in that's actually capable of remote display

[neon mesa]

if i have one on hand i would use that already

[worn idol]

i love how theres this one guy in linus' stream rn barking and mooing

[neon mesa]

and my TV does support miracast, my PC doesn't

that's the problem

[hazy parrot]

If the idea appeals to you if even partially? It's totally worth it

[grim lodge]

[hazy parrot]

Way lower latency over RDP

Gaming enjoyable over moonlight

[neon mesa]

i'm trying to cast from my PC to my TV

anything that requires client side software can't be used

[hazy parrot]

Worth buying a $40 lil doohickey that enables that

[manic torrent]

Why though

[neon mesa]

Because i want to

[manic torrent]

... To do what

[neon mesa]

the why is irrelevant

[manic torrent]

No, the why is always relevant.

[hazy parrot]

offering a far more optimal option seems like an opinion worth hearing

[manic torrent]

All of the options that are possible for you right now suck terribly.

[neon mesa]

the PC is the problem since it doesn't have miracast

[manic torrent]

Shit I have a 4k HDMI to 8p8c extender in the cupboard

[manic torrent]

Does it have wifi?

[neon mesa]

it doesn't

that's why i wanna cast over LAN

[manic torrent]

... You know Miracast is wifi, right?

[neon mesa]

YES I REALIZE THAT

that's why i wanna cast OVER LAN

via other software

[hazy parrot]

the thing I linked you is far from intended from....enjoyable end user media streaming

[neon mesa]

at this point imma just use freaking youtube stream

[manic torrent]

Since you haven't said what it is for

Understanding the pros and cons of different methods is not possible

[hazy parrot]

imagine yourself as someone who really insists they need a 120mm aio

but when presented with why its suboptimal. Its because it needs to be aio

[neon mesa]

i just want, a simple device mirror

that i can open in browser, like the image i sent first

[hazy parrot]

people buy apple tvs for that

I joke, its not what you wanted to hear

[worn idol]

people buy apple tvs?

[hazy parrot]

but still its true

[worn idol]

thought people where smarter

[hazy parrot]

I'd say its the most optimal solution when you already have an iphone and one of the vast majority of TVs out there with terrible non-display-related hardware

[worn idol]

thats the idea

majority own an apple

and then theres all the apple meat riders

[hazy parrot]

the kinda user I described is the kinda user representing a vast majority of marketshare in the US

elsewhere im not sure

[worn idol]

that think apple is "IT"

there gonna get an apple tv because it works with there phone

just more money in there pocket

thats all apple wants and cares about

look at there quality and there cutomer service

[hazy parrot]

shocker. capitalism.

[neon mesa]

now let me restart
i want something like the image below
captures screen, send it over HTTP
then i can open that URL on any device and get a video stream
that simple

[hazy parrot]

why doesnt that work

[neon mesa]

bad FPS due to the software itself

[worn idol]

yes capitalsm but apple is like call of duty level of money hungry

[shut birch]

what are you doing

[worn idol]

like shit apple is already promoting ai stuff on the iphone 16

[neon mesa]

and i just need a better alternative with this functionality

[bitter harbor]

You say that like a chrome cast or a Roku stick is objectively better

[patent violet]

Woah did this go beyond the Intel management features now?

[hazy parrot]

and what android based options arnt?

[patent violet]

the IntelAMT stuff

OH WOW IT DID

This guy is awesome, the dude who made this. He even showed that you could add your own webserver into the IntelAMT Firmware and have a custom webpage for the on device BMC

[hazy parrot]

I see remote desktop as a feature, I saw a flag they needed checked off. None of the companies I worked for before used this

[worn idol]

none of its better imo i dont like any of it but the fact its only exclusive to apple users tho is just wild

[patent violet]

Yeah this started off as a means to manage Intels AMT stuff built into the Intel vPro/ME

[hazy parrot]

glorious open sauce

you love to see it

[patent violet]

Ill be honest, IntelAMT is the most powerful IPMI/SMC/BMC system ive seen

You can configure basically everything about the computer from it, natively

[bitter harbor]

With how the chrome cast requires a google account and is a pain to cast to from your laptop or phone while having ads as well, chuck that under a hydraulic press.

[patent violet]

It also only conforms to standards that are established. It doesnt use anything "proprietary" in terms of communication or the configuration structure and management.

Which is really cool

[worn idol]

thats not what i meant every phone has ai (the google voice assistance) but apple made it REAL ai like it learns off what you do the "ai" like alexa or old siri isnt ai the new apple ai learns off what you do now THAT is REAL ai the kind of ai

[hazy parrot]

real ai?

what defines that

[viral pollen]

Hey guys i need a hand i moved my computer and for some reason I'm not getting any video output anymore. I reseated the gpu. I checked the motherboard and it's not giving any error codes. I didn't make any internal changes i just moved it.

Can the wall outlet not have enough power or something I'm at kind of a loss. It actually gave me a picture once before it started doing this. I don't even see the bios error.

[vapid smelt]

#1027757333117415424

[worn idol]

ok ngl screw chrome cast i dont blame you for saying that i was talking about roku and fire mb for not specifying i hatte chrome cast to

[patent violet]

Apple AI is also analyzing your photos because you are opted into it by default.

[worn idol]

exactly

REAL ai

ai like alexa isnt ai

[patent violet]

Throwing silent shade I see

Its true though, real AI is invasive lol

[hazy parrot]

voice dictation has made hands free eyes focused texting and driving safe to do.

maybe its worth giving a little

[patent violet]

""real""

Were still 2 double quotes and one italics away from the Real AI

[worn idol]

companies like amazon call alexa ai just for marketing

same as chatgpt

everything they say is an automated response and is programmed

[patent violet]

Idk ChatGPT is not afraid to say what I am doing is stupid and follows along + learns properly now.

[bitter harbor]

The one thing that Apple has that I wish Roku had is the ability to learn from a remote. That way, if the volume and power control doesn’t work, you can still change the volume.

[worn idol]

wdym?

[patent violet]

Everything is stuffed into an LLM and is basically black box so no one knows what its gonna say until DI/DO/DP analyisis happens on the branch.. for every branch

[viral pollen]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1324934492716269668 ah ty

[hazy parrot]

a lot of people naysay chatgpt but they dont query it as if you were its supervisor.

[worn idol]

your going into more depth over stuff i dont know i dont know the specific stuff💀

[patent violet]

Exactly. You need to know how to use it. Its stlil pretty bad at some things though

[worn idol]

i was talking to a former IT that worked into the stuff like ai and stuff and he said everything im saying

none of the stuff companies call ai isnt actualy ai its just simpler and marketing

[bitter harbor]

Apple remotes can record the signal sent by a remote and replay that as if it was that remote. So if you could not set up volume control for a tv normally, you could still change the volume.

[patent violet]

I had ChatGPT call out my bad means of creation C++ Class Factories using templates and friend class Class<CurrentClass> telling me I am breaking encapsulation like an idiot

[worn idol]

damn😔

[patent violet]

It proceeded to actually change a significant portion of how I was doing it and it worked better

[worn idol]

i would have no idea how that works id assume its ai but i could be wrong

[patent violet]

Now I gotta do it like dis

[worn idol]

im strongly against ai i hate everything about it

[hazy parrot]

You ever have it rate it's own inference before?

[worn idol]

its stupid that people think ai is the future when its the end

[patent violet]

Ill do this to "QC/QA" and make sure im not stuck in a junky branch

[bitter harbor]

You have to point the tv remote at the Apple Remote and press vol up, down, and mute. The only other remote I have seen do that is an old AT&T uverse remote that my family has

[civic fox]

i dont worry about things like AI and whatnot since i don't control it lol

[bitter harbor]

So it is definitely not ai with how they do it

[worn idol]

thats kinda cool actualy

[patent violet]

I use my Flipper Zero as my remote

[worn idol]

are flipper zeros as what people say they are?

[patent violet]

I love mine

I also work on a project for another device that has similar but not all the same features

Def not as polished or near as good

[worn idol]

does it hack stuff like stop lights and stuff or is it just fake stuff ytbers say

[patent violet]

Thats bullshit

[worn idol]

thought so

i never looked into what they truely do

but what do they truely do?

[hazy parrot]

They got some antenna on them

[patent violet]

You can clone a garage door remote as an example..

So I also use mine as my apt gate opener

[worn idol]

ah

[vapid smelt]

Back in my day you could use your smart phone

[patent violet]

It can read and copy some (alot actually) but not all RFID/HID door tags

[worn idol]

it clones remotes

so it could kinda hack stuff if you have the remote copied

[patent violet]

The GPIO on the top is useful. I even used it to flash a BIOS chip manually with a clip

[patent violet]

Well thats not really hacking now is it? It does a have "brute force" kinda option but that is very limited

It can clone raw signals it cant recognize and then you replay it

[worn idol]

true thats on me

[patent violet]

Like a car key, but thats dangerous

itll only work once and it can cause the car key to desync because rolling codes

[worn idol]

itd be fun to fuck with teslas

[patent violet]

Thats one

Opening up the gas tank

Its a static signal

its an example signal saved in the default DB too LOL

[manic torrent]

It does things that other stuff already did but a bit easier and more in one

[patent violet]

It can "read" things like Credit Cards and if the credit card has it enabled, show the past like 10 transactions made on the card

[worn idol]

how would one say... get a flipper zero🤨

[patent violet]

buy it

[manic torrent]

Literally just .. buy it

[patent violet]

mine showed up in 5 days

[worn idol]

where

[manic torrent]

But if you have to ask how to buy it, I don't think it will be much use to you

[patent violet]

https://shop.flipperzero.one/

I also use it for hardware debugging All the time now

[worn idol]

i looked a while ago and couldnt find it

and i also dont mess with to much techy stuff

[patent violet]

I need to make an application that lets me do the hardware debugging over bluetooth

[worn idol]

my pfp prolly shows that im more outdoors

only do pc stuff in winter

[patent violet]

oh yeah it has ibutton

lol the only place ive ever seen this used .. or that I remember, is laser tag

[hazy parrot]

Can you think of a "timer based routine" this could do that a phone couldn't do?

[worn idol]

few youtube tutorials can fix that

[patent violet]

what do you mean

[hazy parrot]

Say you had a hard time waking up and wanted your flipper to blast your phone thru your bedroom soundbar

My phone can't do that

Could it?

[patent violet]

no. it has an onboard alarm though its not that loud

if you just pair your phone to the soundbar, the alarm should play through it

[hazy parrot]

Does it have the mechanisms for time based events

[patent violet]

If you make an application that does whatever you are looking to do yes.

[hazy parrot]

iPhone "shortcuts" and Android automations have been really...."IoT device" limited

[patent violet]

Tasker

and gadget bridge

Ive been wanting to toy with this but with Tasker and Gadgetbridge, you can actually trigger the flipper to do things

[hazy parrot]

"and more without the need for the vendor application."

LETSGOOOO

[fringe lance]

i have a new gaming pc but i feel burnt out

[hazy parrot]

In case it's not obvious I havent dailied an android since they had ir blasters as a standard feature

[patent violet]

I miss that

but the flipepr works just as well so meh

[hazy parrot]

Didn't we talk about that not long ago?

[patent violet]

yes

I said something about my HTC One M8

[hazy parrot]

Heh. You're a joy to talk to man

Always learn a lot

[patent violet]

BRING IT BACK

I havent seen a phone with microUSB in a long time and its hurting me looking at it

[hazy parrot]

Wow that design is really....pushing microusb to its limit

It diddnt seem that thin at first

Till this angle

[patent violet]

Yeah thats why its broken all the time

[mortal kraken]

I remember many designs, when ports would be at the top and such

Always offset, not in the center, heck yeah that's how they used to be

[manic torrent]

.... Uhhhh, any computer can do this

Shit, google automations can do that

[patent violet]

This guy figured out something cool. That USB C female ports pin row is actually about the size of a PCB.

this is so cool

[hazy parrot]

its input can change on something external?

[patent violet]

the male becomes female and the female becomes male

that sounds wrong

wait

I cant say that either shit I done fucked up

[hazy parrot]

as far as I can tell I'd need to spoof the remotes signal

[manic torrent]

It really sounds like you need home assistant and an IR bridge

Or ... Any smart speaker.

[hazy parrot]

got an echo spot to replace my 50x alarms in my phone, the ir bridge is a new concept though.

but for that example its not loud enough

[manic torrent]

I have the google nest hub in my bedroom Bluetoothed to a fosi audio amp going to some bookshelves

Excellent sound quality and can go plenty loud

[hazy parrot]

https://www.instructables.com/Alexa-Compatible-IR-Bridge-Using-an-ESP8266/

oh hey I could literally do this rn

[manic torrent]

My backyard speakers are on zone 2 of my desktop surround amp on a long cable and use the onboard audio output and it runs spotifyd

There are a lot of ways to skin this cat

[manic torrent]

There you go 🙂

This year I plan to move to entirely local voice functions and remove google as a requirement for as much of the home automation as possible.

The ongoing enshittification and random changes without even a change log is supremely irritating

[void crypt]

remove the need for spotify and rip cds like it's the 2000's

[hazy parrot]

the work always seems so daunting.

[manic torrent]

The irony is that Spotify gets the job done. This move is for far more practical than ethical reasons

[void crypt]

maybe go AM for cdq if ur blasting it out of speakers

[manic torrent]

My wife is the one that uses Spotify the most and her hearing is rubbish, so not enough impetus to move

[void crypt]

fair enough lmao

[manic torrent]

I had 40tb of local storage back in the day, then I went all in on streaming

[void crypt]

i listen to my cds a lot especially after ripping tbh

streaming is so convenient though

[strange elk]

why

[manic torrent]

Streaming has now reached a sufficient level of enshittification that I am re-establishing a local vault

[manic torrent]

Because it was way easier.

[void crypt]

literally, hence this lmfao

[strange elk]

Thats so much storage for back then

[manic torrent]

Well yeah overkill is the best kind

[void crypt]

mind you, you need a lot of storage

especially if you have a lot of cds

[strange elk]

But you got rid of it?

[hazy parrot]

We all like to think we can do this.

The commitment always gets tested when you stop paying for it though

[void crypt]

i have 3tb of drives laying around unused rn 💀 i'm turning my old pc into a server

so music roms pics wtv are going on there

[runic parcel]

Theres three chairs im looking at, autofull g5, autofull m6, and hbada e3. If any of you have knowledge on which is the “best” of them, pls tell me

[manic torrent]

I have 4x3tb in a microserver I need to plug in today and try to see what I was doing with it

[manic torrent]

Was taking up space!

[strange elk]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[manic torrent]

It was 16 hotswap sata bays in a CoolerMaster stacker

[void crypt]

awesome, ngl i just took the drives out of a server that was given to me by a place i interned at for about 3 months, was a really old hp one that stopped working so i'm gonna recycle the case and psu, keeping the storage and ram

[manic torrent]

But now I have a 24 bay SAS jbod with 24x3tb drives. I am using 8 of them to start, but I will be switching to higher density drives later.

[strange elk]

Assume you already know, I want 8x8 to start with ideally

Already around 75% full on the two I have right now

[void crypt]

i'm probs just using the drives to make a server for my brother and i, it's gonna be a mc server and used for storage as well, it has a 9900k and 32gb ddr4 in it so 😭

[manic torrent]

You don't need to start with 8, you can expand

[strange elk]

Yeah but I want a dedicated machine at least

Need to figure out how to do that, could I maybe slice up a drive in a vm to do it?

How weird would that be

[manic torrent]

Hmmm? What are you trying to do

[strange elk]

Emulate a raid setup in a vm lmao

[manic torrent]

Yeah you can just create loopback devices and raid them

[sharp flare]

Does anyone have any thoughts on the XReal Beam Pro / Air 2 Ultra? I have been looking into it for a little while now and I'm thinking about purchasing one. At least to me at first glance, it seems like XReal may have the potential to succeed in the consumer market with AR glasses in ways that Microsoft could not when the hololens was released. Given that it has an Android backbone, wondering the practicality of loading something like Google maps or my bike trails app acting as a sort of heads up display.

[manic torrent]

Use DD to create a few 1gb files, use losetup to create devices backed by those files, then you can do dumb shit with them

What are you using for raid etc?

I am using ZFS these days, but have used mdraid in the past

[strange elk]

Nothing right now. Im thinking Truenas though

ZFS seems like the way to go. Not sure I trust btrfs

[manic torrent]

In this context they aren't really the same

ZFS is a complete layer violation 😄

[white pawn]

i still regularly pay for music, cause i do things like go camping where there is no cell signal 🙂

[boreal nexus]

guys help I was trying to change my GPU and accidentally ripped off my PCIE slot

[void crypt]

RMA your board

[manic torrent]

Get a new motherboard

[void crypt]

...if it's still in warranty

[boreal nexus]

i’m broke it’s like a 7 year old pc

but it’s all I got really

[void crypt]

do you have another PCIe slot?

[boreal nexus]

no 😭

[grim belfry]

Warranty won’t cover someone being an idiot

[void crypt]

lol ur fucked

[void crypt]

an ipod touch and a good few cd rips :D

[grim belfry]

Apple Music or Spotify :D

[void crypt]

well if he's camping

[deft spear]

hi

[grim belfry]

Downloads exist

[void crypt]

true but you then own the music + no risk of labels taking the music off of streaming

[grim belfry]

You don’t own the music

[manic torrent]

Omg amazing it's almost like they thought of this use case

[grim belfry]

And the likelihood that the music I listen to is going to be removed from Apple Music is very slim lmao

And if a song I really wanted got removed, I’d just buy it on iTunes :)

[manic torrent]

I mean, absolutely if you want to have music locally, do whatever you want, but "omg I go camping" does mean that you can't use Spotify.

I think this is why mind paradox has me blocked. Because I call him out on his holier than thou bullshit.

[long briar]

There's two things that have also changed since:

1. Music has become a lot more "consumable" since the 90s early 2000s.
2. Streaming codecs are efficient enough that the sound quality is going to be fine for 99% of users.

[grim belfry]

You never owned the music

[sharp flare]

So does anyone have any thoughts on the XReal Beam Pro / Air 2 Ultra? Mentioned at 10:41 LOL, also already put in the VR chat. Wondering if it's worth purchasing, If there is a potential that ex-real is able to break into the consumer market in a way that Microsoft was unable to with the hololens. Given that it has an Android backbone, wondering if practically you could look at it in terms of loading Google maps or a bike trail app when you're out and about.

[long briar]

You don't own the music, you own a license and a physical copy of the music. I think that's close enough

The point of "owning music" is that you didn't rely on a proxy to deliver music

[grim belfry]

Also buying songs is ridiculously expensive lol

1000 songs in your pocket? That’s $1500 in your pocket

[long briar]

Again, this comes down to the digitification of music and music industry becoming far more consumable than it used to be

[silk island]

jeeeeez

[grim belfry]

I’m just saying that purchasing music hasn’t made sense for a long time

[grim belfry]

Literally 10 years worth of Apple Music lmao

[long briar]

yea purchasing music hasn't made sense in the consumer standpoint for a really long time, buying music to support an artist is another issue though.

[silk island]

i'd rather not own my music and just have a licence to stream if it means being able to listen to literally anything i want for one monthly price

[long briar]

Some industries like kpop thrive on selling CDs with other things like photocards of the artists to make money, but again, just another example of music becoming consumable

[grim belfry]

Buying CDs doesn’t support the artist much better

[long briar]

It does

[manic torrent]

It does, but not as good as more direct merch or concerts

[long briar]

even 10 cents is an couple orders of magnitude more than they get from streaming

[silk island]

a lot of the revenue still goes to the record label.

[grim belfry]

Which is a much more viable thing to do

[neon mesa]

though this is more of a distinction without difference when it comes to physical media.
You can do anything, literally anything to your particular copy except making copies for redistribution without unauthorization. And you don't have to rely on any third party for access to that copy of music. As far as people are concerned that's owning.

[long briar]

Direct Merch is huge, concerts is actually reminicent of how music used to be

[grim belfry]

But Taylor Swift doesn’t need anymore money, so that doesn’t concern me 😆

[long briar]

in the early-mid 1900s and before that

[harsh quartz]

Small indie creator :(

[silk island]

i like streaming my music tbh.

i know it doesn't give as much, but its far more convenient

[manic torrent]

Yeah absolutely, just that you were not technically correct, because you were using comparison rather than absolute value. Buying CDs is an order of magnitude better than streaming, but merch is several orders of magnitude better again.

[long briar]

The creation of "celebrities" through record labels is a 2000s thing

[grim belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-futurama-the-best-kind-of-correct-yes-yep-gif-5787390

[silk island]

and how are u supposed to play the cd? laptops, desktops, etc, don't even have disc players anymore

[void crypt]

...cd player?

[grim belfry]

In your walkman

[harsh quartz]

Maybe yours doesn’t

[manic torrent]

I use "CD" as a stand in for buying the album digitally

[void crypt]

i rip all my cds and just listen digitally lol

[manic torrent]

.... None do. Anything else is the margin of error.

[long briar]

^

[void crypt]

sleeper builds exist

[silk island]

name a pc or laptop assembled in the past 3 years, pre-built or not, that includes a disc drive.

[manic torrent]

Margin of error.

[grim belfry]

Margin of error

[void crypt]

ah okay

[long briar]

with that said, dedicated CD players have been making a comeback with y2k and asian music trends

[silk island]

and sleeper builds aren't sold

they're built

[grim belfry]

Configurable on HP Z series desktops

[long briar]

Moondrop Discdream 2

[grim belfry]

Probably ThinkStations too

[harsh quartz]

Optiplex

[silk island]

ok so enterprise pcs

[void crypt]

jesus 😭

[harsh quartz]

Still pcs

[long briar]

these wallmountable CD players popular with kpop

[silk island]

let me rephrase: consumer pc.

[manic torrent]

Yeah, margin of error 🙂

[silk island]

not enterprise

[void crypt]

optiplex can be used as a consumer? lol?

[grim belfry]

For backing up the mission critical data :p

[sharp flare]

So does anyone have any thoughts on the XReal Beam Pro / Air 2 Ultra?

Wondering if it's worth purchasing, If there is a potential that XReal is able to break into the consumer market in a way that Microsoft was unable to with the hololens.

Given that it has an Android backbone, wondering if practically you could look at it in terms of loading Google maps or a bike trail app when you're out and about. Or potentially watching YouTube videos when on public transit.

[harsh quartz]

And how the fuck am I supposed to “name a pc” when I can just pop a cd player in mine, or use a usb one. Also, goalpost moving is dumb when regular people can ALSO just buy those enterprise PCs

[grim belfry]

Bud stop spamming this

[silk island]

nobody who is a regular ol jane doe or john doe buys a optiplex lol

[manic torrent]

They don't .

People do not have CD players.

[void crypt]

i do

[harsh quartz]

Who doesn’t what?

[grim belfry]

Anyone telling you you need more than a CD as a backup is just trying to scam you

[void crypt]

i have 2 cd players :P

[manic torrent]

Actual real world average people do not have CD players.

[silk island]

i have a usb dvd player that also plays cds but it's slow as fuuuuuck

thanks LG.

[shadow mulch]

I have wdym

[void crypt]

yes, average

[sharp flare]

Genuinely just thought that no one saw it. Anyway.

[harsh quartz]

Lots of people have usb optical drives, or cars that still have cd players

[silk island]

cars are not PCs

[shadow mulch]

Cars do use computers to do timings etc

[simple flax]

Hey guys

[manic torrent]

Cars, yes, absolutely. USB optical? Fuck no

[grim belfry]

My MY2016 car came with a CD/DVD player and it has never been used lmao

Supposedly it can play movies when the car is stationary

[void crypt]

bro what did i start all i said was i like to rip my cds 🧍‍♂️

[manic torrent]

Your understanding of "lots" is broken.

[harsh quartz]

But if your someone that likes cds, you can

[shadow mulch]

Real gamers put Linux Live images on CDs

[manic torrent]

... Normal people do not "like" CDs.

[grim belfry]

But I don’t know if I believe the car salesman

[harsh quartz]

Well, they still sell them for some reason

[manic torrent]

Disable handbrake sensor, plays movies all the time.

[silk island]

yeah, despite the fact that cd sales are falling off a cliff

more people buy vinyls than CDs

[void crypt]

okay so i'm not normal?

[manic torrent]

No

[grim belfry]

It makes you be stationary for everything

[void crypt]

tbf some cds have exclusive songs you can't get on streaming

[grim belfry]

Can’t even adjust the volume of alerts without stopping

[shadow mulch]

I didn't know it's not normal to like something.

[silk island]

what, like the target exclusive editions? 😂

[void crypt]

no lmao

[shadow mulch]

I guess it's not normal to own an Optiplex MFF 7090

[manic torrent]

Actually for real, fucking "run" by Katharine McPhee

[long briar]

From Moondrop's instagram, this is how they market the discdream2. It's basically a walkman

[silk island]

a walkman nobody's going to buy bc this isn't 2005 anymore

[harsh quartz]

I feel like this would be a walkwoman

[shadow mulch]

I miss when your mom/dad would hit a speed bump and your Three Days Grace CD would skip

[long briar]

it's sold enough that they made a 2nd version, never underestimate audiophiles

[harsh quartz]

Well, clearly it’s made for somebody, maybe not you

[strange elk]

Ayo??

[silk island]

sure, but its niche. i worded that message poorly

[long briar]

EXACTLY

[manic torrent]

What the fuck are you on about

[long briar]

it's very niche, but there's been a small comeback in these things with asian audio market

[shadow mulch]

I feel like niche and retro audiences will buy anything for nostalgia

[shadow mulch]

uh huh

[strange elk]

I mean I wouldnt be as excited if it wasnt moondrop lol

[long briar]

same as those trash point and shoots

[manic torrent]

Yes, that's literally the point

[grim belfry]

Nope, it’s not

Nothing is normal

But especially not that

[shadow mulch]

:( why is everyone so rude today

[long briar]

Like there's this from Aespa

[strange elk]

Well if its good quality, I want to switch to CDs anyway so why not?

[silk island]

cds are worse quality than apple music lossless

[harsh quartz]

Someone woke the angry Australian

[grim belfry]

Fuck you

[strange elk]

I wanted a legit cassette walkman at first, but not attainable atm at the very least

[shadow mulch]

I mean if you believe it is up to your standards then it's all that matters!

[manic torrent]

Because your passive aggression is being met with actual aggression

[grim belfry]

Owning a desktop computer in general isn’t “normal”

[silk island]

it is lol

[harsh quartz]

Not you, your the midfruit

[shadow mulch]

It's discord and no one is being passive aggressive

[grim belfry]

It’s not

[silk island]

yes it is

[manic torrent]

Not in 2025

[long briar]

not anymore it isn't

[manic torrent]

Normal people have a laptop and a phone.

[silk island]

there is no such thing as "normal"

[grim belfry]

It’d be less than 15% of people that have a desktop computer

[strange elk]

It is, thanks. Whether it is up to my standards is still up for debate though

[grim belfry]

And lots have just a phone

[manic torrent]

Yep

[grim belfry]

I don’t know how they do it

[harsh quartz]

This heavily depends on what y’all’s definitions of normal is. If yall mean average, sure, maybe, but most people take normal to mean “not fuckin weird”

[grim belfry]

How do they purchase expensive things?

[shadow mulch]

If you end up getting a more hifi setup , definitely trying FLACs is good aswell.

[grim belfry]

Expensive things need to be bought on a big screen lmao

[manic torrent]

They are not millenniums 🙂

[long briar]

most people don't even spend more than 1k on their primary computer be it a laptop or desktop

[grim belfry]

How do they book flights?

[glass mural]

Why did I immediately think that’s some wacky 120mm fan?

[strange elk]

Im already there, but I appreciate your concern

[silk island]

millennials*

[long briar]

nerd

[grim belfry]

You need a big screen for this! 😆

[harsh quartz]

Yall book flights?

[silk island]

a bad one. 😛

[manic torrent]

I bought my mother in law a laptop for $500 AUD and it's perfect for her.

[shadow mulch]

No worries! Love going from MP3's to Flag

[covert cradle]

there is such a thing as stats though: https://gs.statcounter.com/platform-market-share/desktop-mobile-tablet

[harsh quartz]

Normal ≠ average

[strange elk]

You know you can rip flac off cds right?

[grim belfry]

Web browser user agents are horribly inaccurate for this sort of thing

[shadow mulch]

Yes but majority of CDs are burned with MP3 quality 320mbps I believe

[silk island]

yeah but its still limited to 16-bit 44.1 kHz. thats why buying digital or using apple music is better, because it supports more than just cd quality

[grim belfry]

Plus just because someone is browsing on a desktop doesn’t mean they own that desktop

[covert cradle]

eh, it's good enough to make the point clear

[manic torrent]

What the fuck

[grim belfry]

They’re probably reading click bait at work

[white pawn]

nahh, my phone plays MP3s quite well even when there is no signal, and keeps me from having to deal wth apple bullshit 🙂

[long briar]

tell me you don't know what you're talking about, without telling me

[silk island]

what apple bullshit?

[void crypt]

fair

[silk island]

i've had zero problems with AM

also MP3s are literally trash

[void crypt]

i rip mine in WAV

[grim belfry]

It doesn’t differentiate between desktop and laptop, because as far as the browser is concerned, a laptop is a desktop

[long briar]

https://abx.digitalfeed.net/

[strange elk]

Fair, but Im not too concerned about it right now. If I can get a lot of CDs for like $20 or smth, I wouldnt mind doing that every once in a while in addition to whatever I grab off bandcamp or hdtracks

[void crypt]

they're not burned with mp3 lmao

[shadow mulch]

Yeah what a good place to talk about tech when being corrected could be done but rudeness is met. LOL

[long briar]

If you wanna claim mp3s are trash, prove your credibility with this test first

[harsh quartz]

Again, not literally, they’re fine for most use cases

[strange elk]

My brother you are instigating it

[silk island]

mate i literally have a schiit stack & sennheiser hd 600/650's

[harsh quartz]

The generalizations go crazy in this chat tonight

[silk island]

i think i know what i'm talking about

• i have a macbook pro with a high fidelity DAC in it

[long briar]

That proves you have some money, that doesn't mean you have the critical listening skills to tell the difference

[shadow mulch]

Not instigating anything. Crazy to think that though , legit talking about CDs and I mistyped a bit of information

[manic torrent]

You are saying things that indicate you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and stating them as fact.

[grim belfry]

I hate people like you

[harsh quartz]

MP3 not being the best ≠ literal trash

[grim belfry]

Stupid Americans

[manic torrent]

That's not mistyped.

[white pawn]

all of it. check my post history, you can find out about my fun of having my account fucked over because i dared to remove my credit card from the account after being forced to use it to make an apple id

[manic torrent]

I hate him specifically

[long briar]

cause even for me who can tell the difference between an 320MP3 and FLAC, I honestly couldn't care less 99% of the time

it only becomes an issue at 192kbps and lower where the artifacting begins to become really apparent

[silk island]

i can tell the difference too, don't assume what my ears can or can't discern

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/america-truck-patriot-murica-gif-26712418

[strange elk]

Besides I need a car before I think about a proper stereo setup in my 10x10 sqft of space

[harsh quartz]

Damn, that’s wild, hating people is cool.

[long briar]

It's absolutely fair for me to assume you can't rather than you can.

[silk island]

tbh you are kind of annoying polar

[white pawn]

yet i bet you use bluetooth to listen, which completely kills any audio advantage lossless formats have 🙂

[grim belfry]

For work, yes. But it’s amazing how many DINKs I know who fly 5+ times a year for leisure

[harsh quartz]

And your making wildly generalized statements

[silk island]

no, i do not.

i have zero pairs of bluetooth headphones

[grim belfry]

I’ve got no idea how they afford it, they probably can’t

[manic torrent]

I don't understand how anyone affords anything tbh.

[shadow mulch]

I swear I gotta get some popcorn

[harsh quartz]

Pffft, 5+? If they were Taylor swift that’d be ridiculously low

[strange elk]

I cant but I buy it anyway.

[long briar]

Flights aren't actually that expensive

[shadow mulch]

Also Toplime were you the one I was speaking to about the CD thing ?

[grim belfry]

It’s not too bad without dependants or much of a social life

[silk island]

i have fidelio x2hr's as well as a low-impedance headphone for portable DACs like Apple's own headphone adapter which can't comfortably drive either of my senn's

[white pawn]

ok, then for you, mp3 might be trash. for the rest of us that think radio is fine, and don't need to drag full stereo setups into the woods when we camp, i'm perfectly fine with MP3 and a bluetooth speaker 🙂

[harsh quartz]

Flights, plus whatever your doing on the other side of the flight, are relatively expensive to a large part of the US population

[manic torrent]

Yeah but like... Rent and food and shit. I make lots of money relatively but it still isn't that much!

[long briar]

Yikes I don't like the X2HR

[dusky jacinth]

The bad masters that come out these days are, since badly mastered discs do exist.

[silk island]

i don't need to listen to neutral, perfectly flat headphones all the time.

[long briar]

they hide the artifacting in MP3s better than most decent headphones on the market

[strange elk]

Idk why we are shitting on audio standards anyway this isnt #audio-tech

[grim belfry]

Yeah I have no idea how those on minimum-ish wage do it

[long briar]

X2HRs and SHP9500 both do actually

[strange elk]

We were just showing interest in a CD player lmao

[silk island]

for what reason?

[long briar]

both of them sound the same with a flac and even 256mp3

[void crypt]

one day i will own senn's.

[long briar]

they have no resolution

[strange elk]

To.. listen to music?

[long briar]

SHP9600 is not bad, though.

[white pawn]

i happen to like redbook audio 🙂 (the format CDs use)

[void crypt]

my partner will kill me for spending stupid amounts of money on cool music headphones but i want senn's sooo bad

[silk island]

in what world is a cd player better than apple music lossless or tidal

[strange elk]

Why the fuck do I have to care about alac? I dont use itunes lmao

[manic torrent]

Summary of the last while: some people are hilariously out of touch with what the average person has/does.

[harsh quartz]

1. not everyone has an iPhone, 2) why do you care what they use?

[silk island]

spoiler alert apple music is available on android and windows too you pringle

[strange elk]

I use flac, and Ill have another device for that

[long briar]

wait evenlyn how would you describe the difference between well encoded 320MP3 and FLAC?

[strange elk]

Fuck apple standards

[harsh quartz]

Okay, 2) why do you care? What they use?

[white pawn]

who gives a shit? do you NEED to police how others listen to music?

sorry, that was a bit rude

[long briar]

Spoiler alert it doesn't technically matter since Android didn't have bit perfect playback until very recently with very specific devices

[grim belfry]

No idea why anyone on android would use Apple Music unless they had a family plan or something

[shadow mulch]

I've heard worse today

[long briar]

it has always been sampled to 48khz

[grim belfry]

Also the iTunes app for Windows is hilariously craptastic

[harsh quartz]

Samsungs built in audio player actually has a fuckin mixer unlike anything Apple has

[shadow mulch]

Just good ole Spotify over here

[silk island]

i am well aware of this, iOS is the only mobile OS to actually have seamless bit-rate/sample-rate switching

[strange elk]

Like bro have fun with your apple vision pro or smth leave me alone with my chifi

[white pawn]

i really try not to be rude to people who haven't been rude to me, i think im just cranky 😛

[strange elk]

XD

[grim belfry]

Like they update it regularly, but it really just sucks still

[dusky jacinth]

And was pretty much left that way.

[shadow mulch]

No worries! Make sure to drink your caffeinated beverage!

[silk island]

apple music is its own standalone app now on Windows...

how do ppl still not know that they moved to a dedicated app like 2 years ago

[winged spire]

It’s not very good

[covert cradle]

you don't have to use the itunes app. unfortunately the apple music app is just as craptastic

[shadow mulch]

Owning music is nice.

[strange elk]

The microsoft store version? Its horrible

[grim belfry]

There’s now an Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Podcasts app for Windows too

[long briar]

Couldn't be more correct rn

[harsh quartz]

Because we don’t give a shit

[silk island]

it really isn't

[white pawn]

already did! had my Mellow Yellow as a treat earlier 🙂

[grim belfry]

The standalone app is just as bad

[shadow mulch]

remember a world where you can own the music you listen to...ah yes , CDs

[strange elk]

Id rather use regular itunes from their site

[silk island]

spotify is absolute trash in terms of app ergonomics and user ease of use especially with how bloated they've made it

[dusky jacinth]

And I don't want any of them. I just wanted iTunes. That's what I downloaded it for.

[shadow mulch]

oooh , love me a good mellow yellow

[grim belfry]

Also you still need the “old” iTunes if you want to do anything to an iOS device

[strange elk]

Who is talking about spotify, are you fucking high?

[silk island]

Wrong.

Apple Devices exists.

[grim belfry]

Correct

[harsh quartz]

If your gonna be on windows desktop, just use YouTube, or Spotify, or… pandora? Or Klove! Or 102.3 the dragon fuckin rock station

[dusky jacinth]

Which you can rip and even burn more if you wanted to.

[white pawn]

i have to be careful with buying it cause i will guzzle it by the liter LOL

[grim belfry]

Lmao so now I need 4 seperate apps?

[winged spire]

“Owning music” is really the audio version of using Linux and telling everyone about it

[grim belfry]

What an improvement

[shadow mulch]

that and Baja blast got me

[silk island]

they split them off because iTunes is a) a maintenance nightmare and b) too bloated

[shadow mulch]

I own the house I live in and the car I drive.

[long briar]

Apple is hilarious to me, who thought ALAC was needed?

[white pawn]

for me my other addiction was Green Squall Powerade, but they stopped making that years ago

[strange elk]

I have linux too, if you couldnt guess about how adamant I am about flac

[harsh quartz]

No, apparently Apple Music is, cause they won’t shut up about it

[grim belfry]

The UWP version of iTunes lost a bunch of functionality so I doubt the Apple Devices app would bring it back

[shadow mulch]

never had it.

[silk island]

both codecs are open source LMAO so what does it matter?

and ALAC is supported on more things

[strange elk]

Like apple devices?

[covert cradle]

UWP? More like universally worse program

[long briar]

it really isn't....

[silk island]

yes it really is

[white pawn]

it was deliciously radioactive toxic sludge green and was some mix of weird melons and other fruit

[harsh quartz]

Never understood Baja blast, it’s just fizzy Gatorade, with way too much sugar

[grim belfry]

Murica

[shadow mulch]

It's pretty much just blue Powerade and spirte

[white pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/aflac-duck-aflac-duck-whaaat-what-the-hell-gif-16768596783886279480

[silk island]

what functionality are you even talking about?

[white pawn]

AFLAC!!!!(i know)

[harsh quartz]

I am pure blooded diabetes American and I do not like that shit

[shadow mulch]

crazyyyyy , haven't heard of it before. I wish I had more of that stuff before it went bye ye

[dusky jacinth]

Funny thing is everyone did before streaming and now people want it back. It's less of being like Linux and more like it all existed, a propriety solution widely used, and now making a comeback because they keep taking stuff we want so that we can never have them again or things just don't work out for everyone.

[strange elk]

Well.. Im sold on Rockbox so Ill have a 5th gen eventually

[grim belfry]

USB sync lmao

[silk island]

the apple devices app literally has that.

[shadow mulch]

When are we gonna just 1v1 MW2 rust to see which is better.

[strange elk]

Seriously? thats hilarious and proves my point

[harsh quartz]

Not being able to put a local library on my phone is so fuckin infuriating.

[harsh quartz]

It doesn’t work half the fuckin time