public-chat

[rare otter]

I'm just glad I only have minor injuries

[fossil frost]

had that happen to me a few years ago... its less than fun...

torn ligaments and tendons in my right ankle, knee and hip, torn calf muscle, 2 broken ribs, and a load of road rash... was..

[rare otter]

I almost got my neck broke

I have torn muscles around my neck and my ribs are kinda screwed up

So atm I can't move my neck

And it hurts when I breath

[rare otter]

It hurts when I do

[fossil frost]

yep. it sucks.. and yeah, stretched/torn muscles around the neck were less than fun too... stiff neck for a few days at minimum

if you are in the USA, go to the hospital if you can... if you live in a sensible country that offers free health care... definately go to the hospital

[rare otter]

I got to go home luckily

Since non of my injuries were life threatening

But they were close to being so

[gaunt shore]

Hey there, I’m currently looking for a specific program that I can set to look at a certain folder that then shows me exactly what files were added. Modified or removed from said folder while the program was running

Kinda like how you can view depots on steamdb and GitHub

[restive lion]

What platform

[prime solstice]

I’m gonna pray you have a better Christmas

[keen meadow]

HI

[full fossil]

huge vid just dropped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc4yL3YTwWk about honey

go wach it now

not rick rool

roll

[dusky jacinth]

[full fossil]

trust

[golden talon]

Hey Willem how you doing

[keen meadow]

HI

hi lpl

[golden talon]

how has your day been Mr. Finnegan

[keen meadow]

well

good

[golden talon]

great to hear

[keen meadow]

wbu

[golden talon]

same

i got my airpods maxes today

[keen meadow]

nice

[glass mural]

I wonder how Jensen feels watching Intel and AMD fight it out

[keen meadow]

i have WF1000-m5

ear buds

[glass mural]

Eh he’s probably too busy selling AI cards to AI startups

[hot thistle]

Wow, actually quite interesting revelations there. And yet another negative implication for LTT on the board

[unborn knoll]

I'm not sure where to put this but I think everyone needs to see this. It's huge if true. https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk?si=jmWu87A-31y9gZ0M

[grave sundial]

hi guys

[golden talon]

cringe

[grave sundial]

aww man

[alpine gale]

Affiliate coupon code marketing links are similar to scam-like activity? Who would have guessed!?! /s If only consumers knew the true cost of affiliate marketing, credit card "rewards", and other such schemes...

[compact panther]

I know that LTT loves their prusas but i think it would be cool for them to do a video on other 3d printers.

[grim belfry]

They have

They have done heaps

[compact panther]

no they havent

[grim belfry]

They literally have

What’s the bet mate

[opal thunder]

Lmao

2000 that they have

This is a joke so I don't get banned for breaking some ToS about illegal betting

[compact panther]

they have a video on a 95$ printer from 4 years ago, one on a dissolving plastic printer 7 years ago and another on the ultimaker 2 9 years ago

[grim belfry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E581GZ_dZbY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ02ZNYX7O4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MqtW3pjEDlk&pp=ygUJI25lcHR1bmV4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=miGSjY0kkDA&pp=ygUPI3ByaW50ZXJzZnJpZW5k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3SMUpNH_6I

[compact panther]

im talking about the main chanel i dont care about shortcircut

[grim belfry]

How are they going to make a main channel video about a 3d printer

[compact panther]

there are enthusiast grade printers that would make for an interesting video

[grim belfry]

Not on LTT.

[compact panther]

like vorons or ratrigs

[alpine gale]

A great suggestion for you to post in the appropriate place. 🙂 Though I agree with @grim belfry here.
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1322697-thread-for-linus-tech-tips-video-suggestions/

[grim belfry]

LTT videos have to appeal to millions, and they don’t already have 100s of thousands of subscribers in the 3D printing niche

[compact panther]

3d printers tie in with pc's they could revisit the 3d printed case concept, but bigger and better and historicaly people who are interested in general tech are interested in 3d printing

and im not talking about out of box consumer printers im talking about kit printers where you have to choose your own components according to what you are doing with it and set up web interfaces ect, even before i was acctualy interested in printers it was still interesting to see how they work

[grim belfry]

Which makes it even more niche 🙂

[lament magnet]

My cousins Christmas gift survived w

[compact panther]

what is it, gpu?

[lament magnet]

Yea 5700 he’s using a 5500 rn

Also have a power supply in my carry on bag too lol

Tsa didn’t pull me over surprisingly

[mint abyss]

does the 50hz refresh rate option on my side monitors make my cpu work less compared to 60hz? is the difference noticeable?

[civic fox]

the difference is not noticeable no

60 feels quite better than 50 though

less choppy ish

[manic torrent]

Wtf 50hz. What sort of ewaste garbage are you running

[hollow coral]

so my dads reasoning for doing this was “it wasn’t long enough thru the back” MY ASS IT WASNT

he also put all 12 screws in my rad

[raven bison]

sounds like a very practical man

[raven bison]

plenty of displays support a wide range of refresh rates. I run a 165 hz panel as a side monitor at 100 hz because its just there for discord

it also has a 50hz option in the windows display settings

[hollow coral]

yo wtf… the cpu power cable actually isn’t long enough???

boom i got it

top

he just put the radiator in before anything else for some fuckin reason

3 in 3 ex

1:1 ratio

[dire scroll]

i hate Microsoft for what they did

[hollow coral]

what they do this time

[dire scroll]

can't even use my G2 VR no more

they bricked them all

and they still sold them till 2022

[hollow coral]

yea i cant do under the gpu

got a 5000d

prolly gonna buy more corsair fans for the side and one for the back

i want corsair ones so they all look the same

so are the corsair ones.

i could NOT hear them while benchmarking cyberpunk on max graphics minus rt

i want fans that look the same

i only did it to check my temps with my new cooler

literally just moved my whole pc into the 5000d

h150i elite

from the cooler master ml240l and case being mb520

looks infinitely better

[manic torrent]

I'm well aware, but running 50hz for desktop use is absolutely unhinged

[hollow coral]

ryzen 9 5900x, rx6600, 32gb 3200 cl16

[hollow coral]

anything above 24hz is useless 🙄🙄🙄

[manic torrent]

50hz for 25fps playback makes a lot of sense, but that's a very specific and niche use case.

[hollow coral]

the motherboard, psu and 1 ssd and 1 hdd are original from 2020

gpu about 9 months and cpu 4 months

ram about a year and the 2nd ssd is about 6 months old

also just yesterday bought a 2.5” 2tb ssd

i’m gonna have to re overlock my cpu

all i did was undervolt and up the clock speed

cos my previous cooler wasn’t good enough

no room lol

drive bay and psu in the way

[dire scroll]

microsoft is a joke at this point

they think they can rip off people

i can see a big lawsuit is gonna happen

im downgrading my windows version so i can use my VR

[magic crane]

Is there a product similar to airtags that you can use with an android device?

can you just use an airtag with an android device?

[alpine gale]

No.

[alpine gale]

https://www.androidcentral.com/accessories/motorola-moto-tag-hands-on-review

[dire scroll]

Gonna stay on 23h2 for a while till I can afford a new VR

Since this is bricked from 24H2

Microsoft removed all the core components for the VR to function thats a scummy move considering meta still allows people to download drivers from a 2016 VR

[gilded quest]

TIL someone actually used a windows MR headset

[dire scroll]

iv been using it since 2022 that's when i bought it

@gilded quest i think offline drivers should be made for this

its still a dam good VR 4K res with speakers and a mic

and those clowns basically made it e-waste

[magic crane]

What's the best handheld PC doodad? Asus? Steam deck?

What for video game

[normal storm]

I farted ☹️

[surreal forge]

This MegaLag video about the honey extension is wild. Honey is stealing affiliate revenue from creators

https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk?si=2UVwzuH2DWSl1kwK

[hollow coral]

…

[normal storm]

Yea

Stank real bad

[long briar]

Chipolo One Point works alright

it's not as good as airtags on iPhone

but I have a Pixel so options are limited

the fix for Google Find My network is a software update away

[winged spire]

Someone needs to make a proper GPS tag

That would be very useful even if it needed a subscription

[alpine gale]

Those already exist. They are of questionable legality in certain jurisdictions, and have short battery life, unless they're made physically huge.

[winged spire]

I mean obviously gps trackers exist lol

I haven’t seen any as easy/nice to use as like tile or AirTag trackers

Living in a place where gps trackers are legally questionable is some 1984 shit

[alpine gale]

I could argue being tracked by a GPS tracker without consent is also some 1984 shit.

[winged spire]

You do understand how that’s not at all what I said right?

Like entirely not the same thing lol

It being illegal to put a GPS tracker on someone without their consent is not the same thing as GPS trackers out right being illegal lmao

[alpine gale]

Oh that I agree with... but some governments believe the best way to keep people in line is to outright ban something... rather than, you know, teaching people to not be evil in the first place.

[grim belfry]

Well yeah, that’s literally the whole point of the extension

[grim belfry]

Actual GPS is very battery-heavy

[winged spire]

More than an AirTag, yes

[grim belfry]

A CR2032 or whatever an AirTag uses would be useless with real GPS

I used to have one for my motorbike, and you would send it an SMS and it would reply with the location etc

So it wasn’t always using GPS, only when requested (I assume)

[winged spire]

You absolutely can make a small device with GPS tracking, say if you cut a 13 pro max in half

Especially if you don’t need the battery to last for a year like on an AirTag

[grim belfry]

Yes but then you have to charge the darn thing

There are very few use cases for that that make sense

[winged spire]

I’d love one

[grim belfry]

Then buy one

[winged spire]

I’m at the point I might as well just make my own

50% off lol

I can’t bring my self to buy it

I do NOT need this to be the first thing anyone sees when they walk into my house

[long briar]

We all have one in our pockets already - our phone

[hot thistle]

I thought the point was to apply coupon codes. This whole thing with it inserting itself as a referral and taking commission is pretty weird, but I would think the creators working with them would’ve known that.

[long briar]

you could just glue any old phone with a cellular network and gps to something else and track it with GPS

I could glue my old phone to the inside of someone's bumper and not only can I track them with GPS, they can't detect that it's there

because phones warn against other trackers, not other phones

[winged spire]

Currently I use a radio based tracker for my drones/rockets

But that requires a dedicated base station

With a GPS tracker I’d presumably just use my phone with an app

And more accurate and such

[long briar]

you could even use a watch with cellular

[loud shadow]

sup guys

[winged spire]

True

[restive lion]

No that's the sell to consumers

[manic torrent]

They are not inherently legally questionable, but it's rightfully easy to get yourself into trouble

[winged spire]

Yeah that sentence applies to basically everything lol

[restive lion]

Easy to get into legal trouble with a screwdriver too

[winged spire]

Scissors

[manic torrent]

Mate it's a screwdriver... What are you gonna do, put up some shelving?

[restive lion]

Unscrew the power box of your local military outpost and see how long it takes to end up in a cell :)

[winged spire]

Unscrew the very accessible public infrastructure

[alpine gale]

Only if it's a sonic screwdriver though.

[winged spire]

Yeah

User just revealed they’ve never been outside

[restive lion]

Do you happen to have power to your house

Or... water

[winged spire]

Or gas

Or sewer lines

[manic torrent]

Do you have stairs in your house?

[restive lion]

Hell yeah

[winged spire]

When you’re old enough to be allowed to buy a gas stove let me know

lol

[hard elm]

You know gas heating is a thing right

[restive lion]

Idc what people say but I will always stand by my gas stove

[manic torrent]

And gas hot water

[winged spire]

When a hurricane hits and knocks your power out for 2 weeks good luck getting that electric stove working lol

[restive lion]

Just don't forget to stick a battery powered fan towards the window

Lest you suffocate everyone

[manic torrent]

Yeah ok.

Because the entire world has the exact same climate and infrastructure

[winged spire]

I would have been fucked without my gas stove

[winged spire]

What 💀

[restive lion]

Ah yes let's resort to personal attacks because we're losing the online argument

Guess that's a great place to end this

[winged spire]

<@&750150305383186585> riverence was just banned for a week for doing this Elon shit and harassing me like this for months and the second he’s unbanned he’s doing it again

[restive lion]

Huh that works too

[winged spire]

Yeah he has been saying I’m obsessed with Elon and shit like that non stop for like 3 months at this point

He literally JUST got off a weeklong ban over it

Counting the peace, yes

[hard elm]

Just block people not worth interacting with

[restive lion]

Yeah I'm with alleged elon enjoyer here you're being a bit of a <warship friendly word goes here>

[winged spire]

I’ve publically stated how much I don’t like Elon many times, I just happen to like SpaceX which negates that entirely I guess

[vapid moss]

a mute isn't a ban

[winged spire]

Sorry, yes mute

Misspoke

[restive lion]

I am WELL acquainted with this ideology

[winged spire]

😳

I’d use the block function way more if it didn’t have the stupid “blocked message” thing

The single worst part of discord

[restive lion]

Need to have it in some places but having it as a default is annoying

[vapid moss]

that would involve discord improving the user experience lol, they tend to do the opposite

[winged spire]

Yep 💀

[restive lion]

However it's there as a default so you can view conversational context

Usually it's not helpful but that's why it's there

[winged spire]

There needs to be like a “ignore their existence” toggle

Where you’d just never see anything related to that person again

[vapid moss]

like that time they added polls, if you had send messages permission you could send a giant poll

[restive lion]

That was fucking hilarious

"What if we tied poll permissions to the send message permission

[vapid moss]

so many people in testing said "this needs to be a seperate permission"

[restive lion]

Mason had a fantastic time ignoring literally everyone's feedback

[vapid moss]

and discord are like "yeah maybe, buy nitro please"

[restive lion]

As he usually does

[vapid moss]

polls like this could be sent by anyone lol

with 10 options

[restive lion]

lol understandable automod

[vapid moss]

yep, that and markdown text

[restive lion]

Masked links are so scuffed

Idk who thought that was a good idea

I can't even blame mason for that one

[vapid moss]

I've seen the masked links be used for good twice

[bitter harbor]

Was one of those a Rick roll?

[restive lion]

Off with your head

[alpine gale]

When used appropriately, they're a great way to shorten super long URLs. But yeah... the most common use for them tends to be phishing these days. 😦 I wish Discord did a better job showing where a masked URL went, or enforced a popup showing where the URL was actually pointing.

[vapid moss]

people still rickroll in 2024?

lol

[restive lion]

Those can usually be shortened by removing the tracking query params anyways

Good for tags though

Also it does enforce it unless it's a domain you've previously trusted

It's just that everyone is desensitized to that popup

[alpine gale]

For masked URLs I'd want it to always be enforced. That way nobody could say they "didn't know."

[bitter harbor]

Maybe https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=ln6Gx3XNwCDFcVz3

[restive lion]

Can we French him

[vapid moss]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-fill-his-stocking-with-coal-mods-christmas-lowtiergod-ltg-gif-12645377823045477295

[bitter harbor]

En passant is forced

[vapid moss]

holy hell

[lapis solstice]

https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk

[alpine gale]

Oi, hey, coal is expensive these days. Can we use something else? Stale popcorn, perhaps?

[white pawn]

ive always been a fan of half melted peeps. 3M needs to study that shit as an aerospace adhesive LOL

[pallid falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-other-mods-other-mods-revoke-his-mod-mods-revoke-his-mod-low-tier-god-gif-6016019212179330222

[bitter harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/judge-objection-overruled-gif-15995657

[left basin]

Random question. All versions of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 are 10% off. Should I get the standard or deluxe edition?

[short vortex]

What is up chat

What the sigma

Are these people

Are you guys ready to study tomorrow

???

[winged spire]

Brother my winter break just started

You’re about to catch me eepysleepy tomorrow

[short vortex]

I don’t think that me and you are brothers

I can’t wait to study

Sooo excited

[manic torrent]

Study what

[restive lion]

Nuclear medicine

[short vortex]

Study math science everything

[bitter harbor]

i^i=e^(-π/2)

[short vortex]

Isn’t this a study server

[short vortex]

Oh I have not learned that yet

[bitter harbor]

This is a server that talks about tech but there is the occasional rabbit hole

[short vortex]

Oh so this is not a study server

???

Bye guys have a nice Christmas and new years

[alpine gale]

[harsh quartz]

Give me the energy source

[grim belfry]

How did you think they made money?

[restive lion]

Linus study tips

[winged spire]

Anyone else see that satellite break up over the southern US?

I saw it in New Orleans but apparently people saw it from all the way in Arkansas

Around like 10:30 central

[hazy parrot]

if we were here we def diddnt see it

[bitter harbor]

I wasn’t outside to see it

[zealous quiver]

Nah

[west void]

Hey!

[pale bloom]

Where do you find events like this happening?

[winged spire]

This wasn’t publicized afaik

It was a Chinese satellite breaking up

GaoJing 1-02

Yeah we knew it existed but didn’t know where it was going to fall

It’s been dead since like 2023 and falling slowly since but we didn’t know exactly where within 2 hours

[prime solstice]

I know the i.s.s is slowly falling

[winged spire]

2 hours at orbit speed is more than a full round trip so realistically it could have fallen anywhere

[winged spire]

Always

Regularly gets rebooted

[grim belfry]

I think I need a reboot

[winged spire]

It falls like 3km per year

[winged spire]

One just happened

[grim belfry]

It didn’t work

[prime solstice]

I kinda miss hearing about the opportunity and spirit rover from nasa (I know it’s been a while since the rovers shut down)

[winged spire]

What

[grim belfry]

I said “I need a reboot” because I’m fucking wrecked

[patent violet]

I got a 4 hour drive in 6 hours

[winged spire]

It gets reboosted like once a month

There was that one 4chan post claiming some catastrophic thing happened to it which was total bullshit

It got so much traction nasa had to comment on it lol

[prime solstice]

I should get back into learning about mars rovers

[winged spire]

Yeah as of yesterday there was a successful reboost

[manic torrent]

It's a good thing that people aren't stuck up there for a year that went for a few weeks......

[winged spire]

They aren’t stuck

They could come home today, could have come home months ago

The dragon capsule is up there

[manic torrent]

The starliner works perfectly

[winged spire]

Starliner also would have brought them home safely

Better be on the safe side obviously but it did reentry fine

https://fxtwitter.com/cmdr_hadfield/status/1870485113001410762?s=46&t=3yTVjStlJiHIgKJJFBuL0w

This is really cool

[prime solstice]

I remember in elementary school for my music class we sang the song he and the lead singer of bare naked ladies made

[winged spire]

lol

[prime solstice]

It’s kinda a banger Ngl

[winged spire]

It’s a shame we are just gonna throw it into the Pacific Ocean in 5 years 😐

[sage kite]

gn

[winged spire]

Atleast some parts are staying up

Like a company has already bought the future ownership of the canadarm

If you know where the ISS is going to fall.. are you allowed to just fish the parts that didn’t burn up out of the water?

Like could I charter a boat to the spaceship graveyard and fish me some ISS chunks

It would be international waters

[prime solstice]

I think depending on where it falls it’s left on the hands of the government so I don’t think you can really go and fish the parts back

[winged spire]

A shame

NASA does just have a proper spaceship graveyard where they dump all their space junk and stuff somewhere in the pacific

I wonder if those are up for grabs lol

Point Nemo

[unreal oriole]

It would be a feat even with the most prepared team to actually do that

im sure there have been attempts too

[manic torrent]

Do you have 7 figures to piss away?

[unreal oriole]

iirc its considered an oceanic pole of inacessibility and considered very unlikely that more than a handful of people have ever even been there. It is so lonely that even wildlife is thought to be far and few, if not completely devoid of marine life in the water column

[neon mesa]

💀

[bitter harbor]

But how can the issue escalate, WITHOUT AN ESCALATOR!?

[hazy parrot]

it elevates

[unreal oriole]

cheeky ahhh brit moment

[full fossil]

Yo

[shut birch]

i’ve had this happen lol

[crude vortex]

y’all love kendrick

man his new album is amazing

[smoky badge]

no

[shut birch]

who and no

[gilded junco]

Hi!

[polar fern]

Happy Solstice, everyone!

[wide dew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc4yL3YTwWk

This is actually really interesting, and does show that honey steals commissions from affiliate links

[rigid inlet]

Would be surprised if even people still use them, never had it work ever so just got rid of it

[pearl grail]

Plus forced you to sign up to the stupid thing anyway.

[wide dew]

He also directly called out LMG for not publicly addressing honey after finding out what honey was doing, which is quite fair tbh

[rigid inlet]

Pretty sure LMG weren't the only ones to cut ties with honey

[wide dew]

Yeah, they may have privately informed other creators about it, or others may have found out by themselves

[tranquil bay]

does anyone know anythign abt tf2?

[viscid elm]

no never

i would never have 1.2k hrs in it

[tranquil bay]

okay pls terll me if this is rare

[solemn magnet]

Any game recommendations guys I’m looking to play something over the holiday break thx🥰

[viscid elm]

tf2

[tranquil bay]

idk what is that

[viscid elm]

subnautica

[viscid elm]

trash

[tranquil bay]

damn

i hoped i have smthing rare

[viscid elm]

you would need a premium account anyways to sell it or trade it

[solemn magnet]

I love games that I can get lost in the world like not literally but mentally

[tranquil bay]

what

premium accaunt?

steam has premium????

[viscid elm]

when i was little subnautica did that

[viscid elm]

tf2 premium account

[tranquil bay]

tf

[viscid elm]

it works the same way cs2 does

i think

[tranquil bay]

btw css is 2 euros rn bur my 2 stickers that i opend in cs2 are on trade lock i cant sell them

[tranquil bay]

cs2 if u wanna sell smthing its free

just some fees

ifu sell smthign for 2 euros u get like 1.80

[viscid elm]

thats steam marketplace

[tranquil bay]

yeah in cs2 u sell ur stuff in steam market place

u dont need premium

[vast bone]

Account that spent less than 5$ in steam are "Limited Accounts", Any more than that then you have a unlimited/normal/premium account, But steam doesn't have a premium subscription.

[tranquil bay]

oh okay

he needs help 94hr in 2 weeks?????

[fallow geyser]

rookie numbers

[solemn goblet]

Currently 14F (-10C) here

Gonna only be 22F (-6C) today

[viscid elm]

You should too

[left birch]

wow went out of your way to search my name to find that mesage didnt you creep

[viscid elm]

Creep?

Crapes are better

[left birch]

yeha why else look for my name and search messages. ?

[viscid elm]

Since I wanted to see if you had said anything bad before

[left birch]

Creep

[viscid elm]

Xd

[left birch]

its ok i reported yoru profile creep

[viscid elm]

How is it creepy?

[viscid elm]

Ty

[obsidian oracle]

i once had 2800h

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1093370691895697510.png?size=160&name=neco+arc+corndog

[grave kindle]

LTS should be held liable for Honey scam, literally knew about it and continued to promote it to millions of viewers for over 2 years. lmao so much for much consumer friendly tech company didnt have balls to say anything about paypal to viewers

[obsidian oracle]

whats lts

linus tech service?

[grave kindle]

linus tech scammers 😄

i literally installed and used honey because linus shilled it, lost money myself and money of the persons i wanted to support, well done

[modest copper]

Wur

[hazy parrot]

thats like getting mad at Shaquile O'Neil for gold bond not making your balls cold.

[onyx zephyr]

i got a question about ps5 backgrounds should I ask it here or tech chat

every time i try and get a good background it comes out so low quality

[rare pumice]

I just came here to discuss that - while I'm not raising a torch, I am VERY concerned with their lack of coverage on this. Either they signed something shutting them up, or they're massively dropping the ball by being complacent / "protecting" Paypal.

This video would have been among the most interesting / informative videos LTT has put out in YEARS, yet I just found out about it from a channel I've never heard of.

[crude vortex]

man.

[tranquil bay]

thats not possble do have 2800h whit 2 weeks

2800hr is 116 days

[obsidian oracle]

who says i played only one game

[obsidian oracle]

shame on you, i didnt download

[rare pumice]

Why are we shaming?

[obsidian oracle]

blaming your loss on the person that recommended you the thing

check what youre getting into if its something you care

[rare pumice]

Given that even Linus and crew didn't discover the issue for years, your request is completely unrealistic.

[hazy parrot]

its extremely disingenuous to hold a sponsored content creator accountable to all the actions of a company unrelated to them

[rare pumice]

I've cheated online forms by looking at the web page code, I've spent hours in inspectors, I never noticed - 99% of people don't do that, they wouldn't know.

[obsidian oracle]

theyre not the owners of that company, nor supposed to know problems of it. its an ad and theyre only expected to show it in the vid as an ad

[rare pumice]

How's that relevant to a normal end-user finding something a tech giant couldn't?

Looking or not, you wouldn't have found it.

If you would have, 99% of others wouldn't - even if looking.

[rare pumice]

Thus my issue with this statement.

[obsidian oracle]

a tech giant isnt held responsible for things hes advertising, its an ad for a reason and not review

[rare pumice]

It's not about responsibility, it's about the moot point any effort would have made.

[hazy parrot]

its way too easy just to point the finger and be angry at people.

easier than putting yourself in someone elses shoes.

[rare pumice]

I'm not upset with LTT, I'm pissed at Honey, and surprised LTT isn't covering this more.

They cover every other massive scam, and this one hit them directly - why not cover it?

[obsidian oracle]

give it a time maybe? lmao

[rare pumice]

2022 was almost 3 years ago

Doign it NOW would be REACTING to the current viral video, not being upfront.

[hazy parrot]

main channel doesnt really post whole videos comitted to a single news event like this

[obsidian oracle]

and why do people realise theyre "scammed" now then

[steel marsh]

most likely honey hid what they were doing from sponsored creators

[rare pumice]

becaue MegaLag just did a huge video on it?

I'm assumiing you didn't know that.

[obsidian oracle]

then why do you expect lmg to cover it before anyone other did

[rare pumice]

Because they KNEW about it, go watch the video.

[tranquil bay]

still impossble?

[obsidian oracle]

very possible

[rare pumice]

They asked LMG about it, they answered via email, they dropped support, they knew.

[obsidian oracle]

just over 1 game

[hazy parrot]

seems like they played ball well then

[obsidian oracle]

good, go create a forum post and request a cover of this in a vid

talking in discord bout it wont change coverings

[rare pumice]

I was of the opinion that expressing my opinions in a live chat was just as viable, but thanks for the suggestion of alternative locations to drop my opinion.

I'm not trying to be the change, I'm simply conversing to hear the opinions of others.

[obsidian oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/979806958578188298.png?size=160&name=neco+arc+thumbsup

[rare pumice]

I'm interested in it, that's all.

[hazy parrot]

they're being rational and cordial. I dont see the problem here.

[rigid inlet]

Don't know where you got that idea

[obsidian oracle]

i dont say theres any problem lol

[tranquil bay]

no its not even if u play 100 game in a row its not possble bc when u play one game for 1 hour then another gamew for 1 hour u get 2 hours and waisted 2 hourst and u just do that whit 100 games u just get 100 hours not 2800hr

[obsidian oracle]

imagine 100 games open at the same time for 100 hours, thats 100x100

[hazy parrot]

in a perfect hypothetical world, how would you like to see LMG respond more than this?

what could they do?

[obsidian oracle]

make a 10:01 min long vid. win win for everyone lol

[tranquil bay]

are u dumb u may need do go back do first grade u still waisted 100 hours

[rigid inlet]

What

[obsidian oracle]

who says its wasted, keeping them open isnt wasting anything

[obsidian oracle]

another topic

[tranquil bay]

u didint waist more hours in game whit more games open u still use the same time u dont mutiply the time

[hazy parrot]

ironic cause you cant spell wasted

[rare pumice]

Simply cover the story, factually, leaving the questions they couldn't get answers to in the open for viewers to form their own opinion of. Simply state why they used them, the appeal (Honey's pitch), show the proof they're NOT giving users the best deal on purpose (in the video), and that influencers who pitched it ALSO got their affiliate commission yanked away. Objective coverage of this story is fascinating (I just watched the video, did not know MegaLag prior), and I think given LMG was the 3rd largest pitcher of Honey, AND is tech king (not the position of slot 1 and 2), it's just a perfect subject to cover.

[hazy parrot]

on the main channel?

[obsidian oracle]

yes you do multiply, ive done it myself and thats how i know lol

[rigid inlet]

If I played 2 games at the same time for 1 hour I've done 2 hours worth of game play now change the numbers and that's how it works

[tranquil bay]

yes ik im not the best at english but that guy is saying that he spent 2800hr in 2 weeks in a game

[rare pumice]

Think of all the ridiculous videos we've had in the last 2 years, now try to tell me there's not room for this, once you actually know the details.

[obsidian oracle]

i dont talk with "if"s, i did it myself and its multiplying

[tranquil bay]

yeah reira said that he spent 2800hr in 2 weeks for games im just tryna explain how thats not possble

[obsidian oracle]

okay okay, wanna bet 100$ on this shit?

[tranquil bay]

aight

[obsidian oracle]

i will get my 2 hours played time on steam to 3k+ in less than 2 week

[rigid inlet]

I know I know I just wanted to try and make a more easier to understand comparison

[hazy parrot]

I could agree with this. Just not on the main channel.

[obsidian oracle]

rn 35

[tranquil bay]

i dont mean play time i told my firend played 100hr in 2 weeks not he has play time of 100 hr

[rare pumice]

I don't have enough opinion of what content goes on main vs not, but what's the argument for not having it on main? (more exposure seems best to me)

[tranquil bay]

are u even reading what im saying?

[obsidian oracle]

i am

[tranquil bay]

since when i talked abt play time i talked abt my friend playing 100 hr in 2 weeks i didint say how much hours he had i my elf have 10000 hr in a game whit 1 year and a half game play

[obsidian oracle]

i will also play 3k hours in 2 weeks

just watch

[tranquil bay]

u cant play 3k hours in 2 weeks its impossble

[obsidian oracle]

go to my profile and look at that being 35h, come back in 16 days

[tranquil bay]

max u can get is 336 whitch is u just playing 24/7

for the 2 weeks

go learn math

pls your logic is hurting my brain

[obsidian oracle]

just relax and get your 100$ ready

[hazy parrot]

main channel videos are not investigative journalism or "reactions and critisim to current events"

main channel videos have a central educational theme.

to expressly cover this event and disclose their side of the story is far more suited for wan show.

[tranquil bay]

aight i b e waiting my 100 euros just come back at 116 days after u got the 2800hr in one week

very very possble

[rare pumice]

My issue with WAN show, is that that honey was a mass appeal to the entire userbase, where as WAN show is a pretty specific target audience - we'll all hear about Honey / make decisions on our own. Being on main channel would let the millions of viewers (casual and hardcore alike), form an opinion of something LMG informed them of, and nobody else will ever likely educate on the bad side of.

[tranquil bay]

typical american dosent know math or ur just very dumb europan or somehwre else

[rare pumice]

But I get it, there's content lanes, channels, etc, makes sense.

[rare pumice]

Let's do without the stereotypes, mate.

[vernal garnet]

Well who likes math anyways?

[tranquil bay]

some form of math is needed that guy said i can get 2800hrs gameplay in 2 weeks

[vernal garnet]

I'm lucky I even passed the first half of the year, I had a 72 until I turned in 2 assignments and got to 80

[tranquil bay]

16 days is 336hrs

[hazy parrot]

you're right, chances are a lot of people did get the extension from the sponsors. But I hope the pitchforks all point towards honey. LMG and other sponsored content creators dont deserve misfires

[rare pumice]

Wasn't the explanation that various apps running at once both count?

2 games running for 10 hours is 20 hours played, on the back-end at least.

If it's not that, I don't know, wasn't really listening, didn't care.

[tranquil bay]

dosent work like that

u still use the same amount of time

[rare pumice]

I kind of figured, considering Wallpaper engine and the like.

[tranquil bay]

u still play 10 hrs not 20 hr

[rare pumice]

Do specific apps block counting time, such as Wallpaper Engine?

[hazy parrot]

why do people want playtime?

[rare pumice]

Or do ALL?

I have no idea haha, thus my not listening.

[rigid inlet]

To show off how unproductive they've been!

[vernal garnet]

Who doesn't want it to show that you have 200+ hours in among us?

[tranquil bay]

no its just when u have 2 games open it count how long have u played the games it dosent mutiply the hours u got its still 10 hrs

so no its not possble

[obsidian oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1093370691895697510.png?size=160&name=neco+arc+corndog

[rigid inlet]

If I collect 10 apples from person A and at the same time collect 10 apples from person B I have 20 apples

[hazy parrot]

show to who? Whos opening random peoples steam profiles? I only ever did that playing csgo cause I thought they're cheating

[rare pumice]

It would be additive, not multiplicative, but same idea. I don't know, never tested.

[vernal garnet]

Me

[tranquil bay]

if u play 2 games for 2 hours steam is gonna count it as 10 hr of gameplay easy as that

[obsidian oracle]

oh yeah additive

[tranquil bay]

its not gonna count 20hr bc u still payed 10 hours

[hazy parrot]

but why

[tranquil bay]

and even if it dose stack the hours then its dumb bc its not logical

[rigid inlet]

How so?

[tranquil bay]

u played 10 hours of 2 games how is that 20hrs of gameplay?

[vernal garnet]

Idk I'm curious

[tranquil bay]

liek u have 2 games open at the same time

u play 10 hrs

how is that 20 hrs

[hazy parrot]

what interests you to click on profiles

[rare pumice]

This gets into tricky territory if one game is an idle game, and only requires minimal attention on a second monitor, but you're playing a primary game the entire time.

[vernal garnet]

🤷

[rare pumice]

But again, who in the hell cares haha

[rigid inlet]

Who says you need to use the same computer

[tranquil bay]

idk that guy wanted do bet 100euros do smthing thats impossble

[tranquil bay]

but then its not on the same accaunt

[hazy parrot]

problem solved.

[rare pumice]

Doesn't really matter if it's the same one or not, if you have a laptop next to you and still click around every 20-30 minutes for 20 seconds, you were "playing" the game.

[obsidian oracle]

how will u send the 100 euro

[tranquil bay]

how does that slove that u can get 2800hr in a 2 weeks

[tranquil bay]

im not sending u anything u will be sending it

[obsidian oracle]

im in europe

[tranquil bay]

just use ur common sense

[hazy parrot]

because nobody would know if you did or did not

[obsidian oracle]

lets say that, what will u pick

[rigid inlet]

There are quite a few games you can play with only one hand (at least if you rebind all keys)

[tranquil bay]

im also frop europ

[obsidian oracle]

alr so what app to send it

[hazy parrot]

ive seen those games

[tranquil bay]

bc its not possble 2800hr is 116

[obsidian oracle]

im fine for 100$ of nitro for ease of gifting as well

[hazy parrot]

if your acc is private nobody would know if it was

[rigid inlet]

Like I could totally play fanf and a different game at the same time

[tranquil bay]

yeah then the bet would not count

[hazy parrot]

you wouldnt know tho

[tranquil bay]

no i dont need nitro thx

[hazy parrot]

you can take off the bet

[rare pumice]

You've both failed to define the actual bet - is it a READING output of 2800hr+ on Steam, or is it a logical playing? It seems like you're both having different bets, but argueing your respective logics.

[obsidian oracle]

the place i sent ss in that shows 35h will be over 3k, thats the bet as i defined and he accepted

[tranquil bay]

its impossble even if u have 33games on whitch is max u can have on steam it would still count one game play time so if u play the 33 games in a row for 10 hours boom 10 hours game play on ur 2 week

[obsidian oracle]

this, visible on profile to everyone

[hazy parrot]

oh shit guys

damn wheres my nitro

[obsidian oracle]

not funny, dont inspect it

[tranquil bay]

pleas tell me how the fak

[hazy parrot]

LOL

[hazy parrot]

now its funny

[tranquil bay]

steam is tweaking thats not possble

[hazy parrot]

you know how my convo with you started by cheating the bet?

well I cheated here too

[obsidian oracle]

inspect element

[tranquil bay]

inspect element?

[rare pumice]

Not hard, not evidence either.

[tranquil bay]

i mean still not 2800

[rare pumice]

It's whatever the hell we type 😛

[tranquil bay]

but how is that possble

[rare pumice]

If 1337 doesn't tip you off on that 😉

[obsidian oracle]

inspect element

[rare pumice]

View the profile on a web page, vs Steam client itself, inspect web page, edit content.

[rare pumice]

Wev dev 101

[tranquil bay]

so ur kinda atmitting that its not possble

[obsidian oracle]

no im saying thats how they did it

[hazy parrot]

nah, we just admitted its easy to cheat your bet

[obsidian oracle]

i wouldve did that the second u mentioned its not possible if that was my plan lol

[obsidian oracle]

its easy to cheat but not possible to cheat on everyone's screen

[tranquil bay]

yeah it is impossble its just possble do cheat it

[obsidian oracle]

it is possible

[tranquil bay]

its not

explain

[obsidian oracle]

i will reach 3k way before the time i claimed for theb et lmao

[hazy parrot]

oh shit

[tranquil bay]

just explain how is that possble

[hazy parrot]

this just got spicy

[obsidian oracle]

i did

[tranquil bay]

u did not

[obsidian oracle]

i said i achieved it before, it should mean that its possible

[tranquil bay]

yeah u can be lying to

[hazy parrot]

if you add him on steam

[tranquil bay]

ican also say that i got 10000hr in 1 week

[hazy parrot]

nothing he does can cheat it

[obsidian oracle]

i dont lie

[tranquil bay]

yeah yeah yeah

[obsidian oracle]

no need to add, its visible to public

[split swift]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-pissi-twitch-7tv-gif-7223094372649290081

[obsidian oracle]

brb 5m

[hazy parrot]

oh sorry I forgot other people use public profiles

[tranquil bay]

2800hrs is not possble in 2 weeks

2 weeks is 116 hrs

[hazy parrot]

lol man, if only software obeyed the laws of gravity

[tranquil bay]

wait or it was 336 or sm

it was 336

[hazy parrot]

it doesnt matter

[tranquil bay]

if he or she sayd i can get 336 in a 2 weeks id belive bc thats possble but 2800 is not possble

[mild nebula]

Linus, I am so sorry to hear about what Honey has been doing to you and others that are affected by that company. >.<

[tranquil bay]

whats the deal whit honey?

[mild nebula]

OK to DM you the link?

[tranquil bay]

no

just send the link here?

[mild nebula]

well, MegaLab had just made a video on it... https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk?si=POmACkGt48cusxG5

[tranquil bay]

so it was a scam thats all?

[mild nebula]

Yeah, basically stealing their money when it was suppose to be their sale. >.<

[tranquil bay]

eh its not rally their fault who promoted it bc they didint know unless they did know

[obsidian oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1093370691895697510.png?size=160&name=neco+arc+corndog

[obsidian oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1224472267820372088.png?size=160&name=eyebrow+raised+necoarc

[obsidian oracle]

people are mad that a big company like paypal have a big scandal, thats what its more like it

[mild nebula]

Oh, but Honey did know. they knew what they were doing when they changed the codes to their own.

[tranquil bay]

ok imma go now i have betgter stuf to do that argue or talk abt anythig nrlly i wanna sleep

[mild nebula]

Pretty much.

[gleaming silo]

[obsidian oracle]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/888081275628453979.png?size=160&name=Gura+Wave

[obsidian oracle]

gngn

[viscid elm]

Bad night 🙂

[obsidian oracle]

climbing so fast that steam has problems showing it properly so it chooses to not show at all

my pc also has problems with it, shit is laggy af

[obsidian oracle]

@tranquil bay nearly twice in like 30m lol

it wont be as high increase from now on because i closed a few games to be able to use the pc

if i keep all these open for 2 week, it will be well over 10k

[carmine merlin]

I do not know which naming scheme is worse. Intel's Core Ultra 9 285k or AMD's Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 395

Actually, I think it's AMD

[mild nebula]

Yeah I know whatcha saying. I think I seen a video once about the naming things... the most obsurd wins...

[carmine merlin]

I think AMD's is a steam gift card code

[mild nebula]

Maybe one day it will be a gift card code? 🤣

[quasi parcel]

most likely a scam, but i found a 4090D on aliexpress for 360$

yeah no way im trusting this

[obsidian oracle]

[shut birch]

steam?

suspicious

[obsidian oracle]

it will go past 3k+ hours on that place

[obsidian oracle]

yea it has max+pro like iphones do

atleast intel keeps words same, only number change

amd changes all

[wide dew]

It must be a hobby of these companies to try and confuse customers at this point

[obsidian oracle]

more like a must

[wide dew]

Yeah, AMD and INTEL still use the 3,5,7,9 naming convension, and I know people who it does fool

[rigid inlet]

Yeah i can only assume how confusing it must be for people that aren't deeply into tech to try and upgrade or buy a pc

[wide dew]

Luckily I stopped someone buying the U9 285K, and convinced him to go with the U7 265K instead

Couldn't convince him to go towards AMD, but atleast he's saving over £100 for minimal performance difference

[rigid inlet]

I don't understand brand loyalty like that

[wide dew]

I don't even think it was brand loyalty, but he sees 20 core CPU and thinks it's significantly better than a 8 or 12 core CPU, even though the single thread performance is bigger factor, atleast for gaming

[rigid inlet]

I guess when it's other people's money it's their problem if they like to spend more for less

[ionic lagoon]

yall saw the honey video?

[wide dew]

That wasn't even the worst part of his build, he was dead set on a £1200 msi motherboard, it took me weeks for me to convince him to go for a cheaper (still expensive) motherboard

[wide dew]

The one by MegaLag?

[ionic lagoon]

Yeah.

[mint yacht]

Can't wait for them to learn that disabling most of the P-cores will net them the best performance in games

[rigid inlet]

Jesus what the fuck did that motherboard even have to be £1200

[ionic lagoon]

Bro, that legit caught me off guard

[mint yacht]

Probably the godlike

[wide dew]

Yeah watched it earlier, it was a pretty good video

[wide dew]

You are spot on, he wanted it for the screen, which is useless since he's getting an AIO with a screen too

[ionic lagoon]

Yeah, I hope everything is gonna be good with him. Very dangerous to make those types of videos in this generation

[rigid inlet]

I have an old b450 board I bought 4 years ago for like £80 and I couldn't imagine spending any more than that for a motherboard

Spending shitbox car money on a motherboard is wild

[graceful burrow]

The most I've spent was 129 but it was during an am4 board shortage a few years ago, nothing else to buy and scalpers only on ebay

[wide dew]

Spending over £200 for a board is wasteful unless you need specific features, although im one to speak since I have a X670-P board that cost nearly £300, but it was the cheapest one for the chipset at the time

[rigid inlet]

Fair enough

£1200 is just wild tho

[mint yacht]

Most I've spent on a board is £180 for a used crosshair 8 impact
Funny little thing

[wide dew]

Motherboards don't need to be as expensive as they've gotten, especially ones with a seven segment display

I get the fun of overspeccing a system, however sometimes it's very unnecessary

[wide dew]

Also the part where he did call out LMG for not properly addressing honey publicly when they found out what they were doing was a fair point, however we don't know if LMG where informing content creators behind the scenes

[daring thistle]

That is honestly irrelevant. The only thing that could have saved the creator ecosystem from more damage was taking it public

Because the whole issue is that people need to uninstall honey for the damage to stop

[wide dew]

That's true

I worded it poorly, it was less of a call out and more of a criticism

Overall, it less about LMG, but more about honey

[daring thistle]

Idk man. LMG is very in the wrong here too

They knew for 3 years man

[wide dew]

That's also true, and should be addressed

On their more public channels, not a forum post

[daring thistle]

Not even on the Wan show imo

Because I'll bet that nearly 100% of wan viewers already uninstalled honey or never had it in the first place

[wide dew]

Yeah, I don't know if they were worried about angering paypal, however for integrity reasons, that shouldn't even be considered

[wide dew]

Yeah, because what Honey was doing to content creators that they where sponsering, let alone everyone else, is really scummy

[austere shale]

whats going on with honey?

[wide dew]

They where stealing commissions of sales via the extension

I would go watch the video by MegaLag for the full run down, but it was bad

[daring thistle]

Basically honey was stealing any affiliate revenue for all users that had it installed

[grave sundial]

ello

[austere shale]

thets bad but id probably do the same thing if i made honey so i cant blame them

[wide dew]

It was much worse, it wasn't just taking commisions from sales, it was changing the cookie that linked the affiliate link to there own, so anyone actually advertising a product wouldn't get any money from the sale

MegaLag went more in depth, but it was a huge amount of money they were stealing

[clear wigeon]

Hey, guys, how do you manage your python virtual environments?

[wide dew]

Also the deals with Estores to avoid using the best coupons codes so customers wouldn't get the best price

[daring thistle]

I feel like that has to be illegal somewhere

[austere shale]

i mean anybody who didnt see something like that coming probably deserved it. like big shock a company that marketed itself being pro-consumer is actually anti-consumer and just out to steal a bigger piece of pie. its only like the 1,000,000th time this has happened

[wide dew]

It doesn't take away just how bad this behavior actually is though

[rigid inlet]

It's the lack of transparency
If I install something to find coupons I wouldnt expect it to purposely hide coupons from me

[daring thistle]

The problem really isn't individual consumers. The problem is that it's screwing over every creator's affiliate revenue

[wide dew]

I think that's a loophole they exploited unfortunately, I think they'll get away with it, the best thing that could be done is to destroy their reputation so as many people as possible stop using the service

[daring thistle]

Which means that they don't get more sponsors because they can't show good affiliate revenue numbers

[rigid inlet]

I mean they've been on the decline anyway, many stores don't really offer coupons anymore and just have major sales instead

[wide dew]

Yes, also the fact that they where easily stealing more money from affiliate links than they would've paid any size creator

[wide dew]

Idk, most Ecommerce stores I've seen still has an option to apply a discount code, despite them not really being used that often

[mint yacht]

It's fraud
It's just fraud

[wide dew]

Yeah, considering they never disclosed anything about how they would change cookies

[austere shale]

oh no so sad shitty company does shitty thing however could this happen again

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[wide dew]

It's less big company bad, and more the implications this sort of fraud has on the content creator community and Ecommerce sites

[daring thistle]

Honestly LTT not disclosing it for 3 years is also dumb as bricks in a business sense since if they at least tipped somebody off about it they would also stop hurting themselves

They probably couldn't say anything themselves because contracts

[wide dew]

Yeah, I'd say that does come down to more incompetence more that anything, doesn't make it any better though

[gentle slate]

Lots of crying

[wide dew]

LMG did immediately cut all ties and advertising campaigns once they found out, so Idk if contracts could really come into it, unless they signed some form of NDA for cutting ties

[gentle slate]

Is there drama

[full fossil]

lmao

[wide dew]

Watch the MegaLag video on honey, it's an interesting watch

[daring thistle]

Nah, if someone takes a sponsor they usually can basically never say anything bad about them

[wide dew]

That's fair, either way, still a bad look

[restive lion]

you should tell them that about anker

he was pretty fast to say shit about them

[daring thistle]

Yeah...

[wide dew]

Yeah that's fair, publicly calling out and cutting ties with one sponsor but not another, that looks hypocritical

[daring thistle]

The whole mutahar established titles video comes to mind

[clear wigeon]

Woah, What do you want?

[graceful burrow]

Probably easier to manage python virtual environments

[clear wigeon]

I have this problem where I don't know what to do exactly making a big env related to one topic like data science will make me download a lot of libs in one place and some projects don't need most of these libs, however If I make small env srelated to each subtopic I will have to install extra libs that will probably be in the rest of these envs beacuse most projects will mostly need the same libs that are in an another env.

how do you do it?

[wide dew]

Or the Gamers Nexus videos on asus

[clear wigeon]

I don't want to make an env for each project as I have limited space!

[restive lion]

you should have a venv per project

do not share them across projects

thats how you end up in the exact situation theyre meant to fix

[wraith skiff]

Is the 3050 good?

[graceful burrow]

No

[wide dew]

It is one of the worst value gpu's around, id look at different options, if you want nvidia card, something like the 3060 or 3060 ti would be better options

It would be more expensive, but atleast they would be able to play some modern games

[neon mesa]

B580

[wide dew]

That's a great shout, if you can get your hands on one that is, I'm pretty sure the B580 sold out pretty quick

Or even an rx 6600 xt, they're quite good value

[abstract coyote]

Guys ive got some overheating issues on my gaming laptop any thermal paste recommendations that dont dry up quickly like thermal grizzly? ( I Also dont wanna use liquid metal as its risky and ptm 7950 is gonna take ages to arrive at my place so anything else would be great)

[prime solstice]

New egg says it should be back in stock on January 3rd

[wide dew]

That would be a solid choice then, depends where you live, we get pretty stuffed on computer hardware in the UK

[rigid inlet]

I would say semi stuffed

Used market here is also kinda meh

[wide dew]

Yeah it is, just never sell to CEX, they'll give £3 and half eaten cadbury bar for a RTX 4090

[prime solstice]

Sounds like GameStop

[wide dew]

It's worse, It's a corporate pawnshop that has less interesting and worse prices than cashconverters

[prime solstice]

Cashies

[ionic lagoon]

Yeah it's true because I know, for example, MKBHD silently stopped supporting them

[rigid inlet]

I find cashconverters aren't that great in the UK or maybe I just don't live near one of the good stores

[wide dew]

They still aren't good, but sometimes they can have some cool stuff, badly priced but more interesting than a wall of old phones consoles

Hell, I saw them selling a steamdeck for more than Valve charges for a new one

[rigid inlet]

I swear CEX is the same

Or they at least charge the same as new for one

[worldly frost]

[wide dew]

I'd say its a bit worse, but neither are any good

Charity shops are the way to go

[rigid inlet]

The thing that surprises me more is that people still buy them at those prices

I know the shipping isn't the greatest if you buy it directly but still (mine took like 2 weeks to arrive)

[wide dew]

I think it's people who don't really know the real value, or overly suspicious of ebay (despite better consumer rights when ordering online)

[wide dew]

That's really bad, I've ordered stuff that shipped from north america that's taken less time

[rigid inlet]

I'm pretty sure they have distribution in Europe

But I'm also pretty sure it is not delivered by plane but probably by trucks then across the channel

[wide dew]

I'm talking shipped from north America, not from a distribution centre in the Netherlands

[rigid inlet]

Mb

[wide dew]

No worries, tbf it ships from mainland europe most of the time

[rigid inlet]

Yeah but my guess is that stuff that far will be delivered by air while from mainland Europe they'll try and save money by using trucks

[wide dew]

It makes more sense to use trucks from Europe anyway, not just for price, but it also isn't much slower, since it will need to go to one or two distribution centres in the UK anyway

[gleaming compass]

Holy crap the MegaLag video about LTT promoting affiliate link sniping is not a good look. I hope LTT gets in front of this because MegaLag's claim they refused to answer the majority of questions about Honey and Karma kind of would go against Linus' claim of being transparent about sponsorships in the future. :(

[lament crystal]

I gott a wifi adapter today, is there any way I can use both that and a wired connection for even faster internet?

[gleaming compass]

Yes

[torpid zenith]

what wifi adapter did you get? I am looking for one

[lament crystal]

How?

[lament crystal]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C79H8S7P?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

Just plugs in to my computer with a usb connection

[gleaming compass]

On your wifi router, implement either LACP, LAG or balancing to a proxy server such as a SOCKS v5 or a HTTP proxy

[lament crystal]

I have no clue how to do either of that

[gleaming compass]

You probably don't want to do that

While you will improve bandwidth, you will also take on the latency of wifi for several of your packets

Unless you also establish a complicated set of QoS rules of which packets should only go over ethernet and which can be demoted to wifi

If after that warning you still want to try, then I recommend starting with installing OpenWRT on your router or switching to a router that either already has OpenWRT on it or that you can install it on

[gleaming compass]

Cool, I had also been using TP-Link. You might find this article interesting (I would take it with a grain of salt):
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/12/report-us-considers-banning-tp-link-routers-over-security-flaws-ties-to-china/

[lament crystal]

I am not in the US so that's irrelevant

[gleaming compass]

If it has a higher rate of unresolved vulnerabilities then it would still be relevant

[lament crystal]

It's also just an adapter

[gleaming compass]

You are trying to accomplish higher bandwidth for download, upload or both?

[gleaming compass]

Oh, ok.

[rigid storm]

Hey, so what would be an ideal and reliable 4tb SSD to stick in my PC?

[gleaming compass]

stick = nvme?

[rigid storm]

M.2_1 Source (From CPU) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 22110/2280 devices
M.2_2 Source (From CPU) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices

Yes pls

[gleaming compass]

ideal depends if you want to go with cost or price

[rigid storm]

I'm sorry if it's a simple question. I'm very new to PC world

[wide dew]

Samsung 990 pro for performance, crucial p3 for price

[rigid storm]

Middle ground

[gleaming compass]

yeah, I was going to say Samsung for performance, crucial or wd blue for price

[rigid storm]

10-4. That points me in a good direction. Ty

[gleaming compass]

read your motherboard manual carefully because using M.2_2 may disable other features of the motherboard

[rigid storm]

Damn.

[wide dew]

tbf, the 990 pro has gotten cheaper with gen 5 nvme's hitting the market, only about £50 more than a WD Blue SN5000, for more performance, although if its for games, around 5000mb/s would be the sweet spot for price to performance

[rigid storm]

It's a MSI b650-vc wifi

[wide dew]

Ill have a look into the specs for you

[rigid storm]

Yeah, it's going to be specifically for game storage

[gleaming compass]

going AMD for your first build? good choice :)

[wide dew]

The second NVMe slot will be disabled when using a Ryzen 8500/8300 series processor

[rigid storm]

Yeah, got a r7 7700 and a 4070

[wide dew]

Great choices, also you'll be able to use both NVMe slots with no issues

[rigid storm]

Fantastic!

[wide dew]

Have you already got a seperate boot drive?

[rigid storm]

Yeah, I've got a 1tb drive that well.... Everything is on atm

[wide dew]

Id keep your boot drive seperate from your game storage, if you clog your boot drive to much, you'll slow down your OS

[gleaming compass]

you trying to RAID 0 or RAID 1 the nvme sticks?

[wide dew]

Good man

[rigid storm]

I have no clue what that means

[gleaming compass]

you don't need to know for a first build

it over complicates things

[rigid storm]

I just need it to work as intended 😂

[gleaming compass]

like a Mac? :P

[wide dew]

Yeah I was gonna say, no real need to setup data striping for a gaming computer

[rigid storm]

I'm upgrading my ram today and that already makes me more than a little nervous

[gleaming compass]

I know some insane people :P

[rigid storm]

Went with 2x 32gb sticks of Kingston DDR5 6000mt

[wide dew]

Overkill, but good choice

[gleaming compass]

you avoided the RGB?

[rigid storm]

Nah fam. It's rgb.

[gleaming compass]

Good :)

[rigid storm]

I don't think it comes without it

[gleaming compass]

oh, it is

well, shrug maybe you can still turn it off

[unreal goblet]

https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/201946123_-radeon-rx-6750-xt-mech-2x-oc-12gb-gddr6-msi.html

[unreal goblet]

god DAMN that's what I call black friday scalping

800€ for a mech 6750XT

[rigid inlet]

I have 3tb of storage and I still want more (I must have every game installed)

[wide dew]

Id double check a couple things, make sure that the RAM kit support expo instead of XMP, and for a 6000mt/s kit, Id look at a CL30 latency, that's the sweet point for gaming

[scenic veldt]

would any of yall want to join a server i just made

[rigid storm]

So for clarity, this PC is a pre built that I'm upgrading over the course of this year. I snagged one of the Wally world IBuyPower specials for 999

[gleaming compass]

it is ok, the website is scalping in some greek or germantic like language. maybe klingon?

[wide dew]

I have 24tb of storage, sometimes I feel like I dont have enough SSD Storage (8TB)

Data hoarding goes hard

[rigid inlet]

Damn

[rigid storm]

Yepp, it is 6000 and cl30

[wide dew]

Fantastic then, you've made the best choice

[rigid inlet]

All my storage is on SSDs I can't be bothered to deal with hard drives

[rigid storm]

Also, it is overkill on ram I know but I play Star Citizen and it needs ALL the ram

[rigid inlet]

I look at sata SSDs but I swear they aren't even cheaper than the NVME drives

[wide dew]

I use a HDD for bulk storage, although 16TB is far too much for bulk lmao

[gleaming compass]

Ok, we will do our best to judge giving ibuypower money in silence :P

[rigid storm]

Ik ik. It certainly needs a better PSU. But overall it was a decent deal

[wide dew]

Tbf, buying a cheap pre-built and upgrading it over time is not the worst thing to do, it's how I started getting into PC's

[wide dew]

How much wattage?

[rigid storm]

And more ram. Because it only came with a single stick of 16gb

[wide dew]

For a DDR5 system, thats pretty bad, hardware alocation is gonna take a chunk, also multitasking would feel slow

[rigid inlet]

Could be worse, you could've bought a GPU during a shortage

[gleaming compass]

Or since it is an AMD and two sticks of NVMe, there is the option to use one stick for AMD StoreMI :P

[wide dew]

Buying a pre-built is how I got an RTX 3070, this was during the 2020-2021 gpu shortage, that was really bad

[rigid inlet]

I bought a 1650 late 2020

[gleaming compass]

I agree, there are just some brand that I don't react nicely to hearing outloud :P

[wide dew]

My condolences

[rigid storm]

Unknown. My guess is 800-850? But I know it's gotta be cheap. Otherwise I'm not sure how they made any money on the sale

[rigid inlet]

I now have a 3060ti so it isn't that bad but the few years I had the 1650 was rough

[wide dew]

That's not bad, that will comfortably support your system

[rigid storm]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/iBUYPOWER-Y40-Gaming-Desktop-Ryzen-7-7700-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4070-16GB-DDR5-1TB-NVMe-SSD-Liquid-Cooled-RGB-Windows-11-Home-64-bit-Y40BA7N4701/2688289785?clickid=Ve6UXTTflxyKUUQz4YQ2cxKtUkCXto3R2Q6tws0&irgwc=1&sourceid=imp_Ve6UXTTflxyKUUQz4YQ2cxKtUkCXto3R2Q6tws0&veh=aff&wmlspartner=imp_482924&affiliates_ad_id=565706&campaign_id=9383&sharedid=

[gleaming compass]

who is affilate id 565706? :P

[rigid storm]

Probably google

[gleaming compass]

ah ok

[rigid storm]

Idk

[gleaming compass]

It is ok, I am teasing

[wide dew]

That says 700w, that's not good for a 7700 and a RTX 4070

[rigid storm]

I already feel ashamed enough owning a ibp PC lol

[wide dew]

If there is a power spike (bound to happen with an Nvidia GPU, it may pull too much

[gleaming compass]

it could be worse, it could be an IBM PC Jr, a comptuer so awful that SNL made fun of it

[wide dew]

Could be worse, could be buying an alienware pc

[rigid inlet]

Yeah lol

[gleaming compass]

At this point, isn't that just another word for Dell?

[rigid inlet]

I mean they are owned by dell

[wide dew]

Yes, but with a "gamer" name

[rigid inlet]

Do they still make the urinal case

[wide dew]

Although they do make pretty good monitors, but thats about it

[rigid storm]

I have this on my buy list

be quiet! Dark Power 13 850W Quiet Performance Power Supply | 80 Plus Titanium Efficiency | ATX 3.0 | PCIe 5 | Modular | BN660 https://a.co/d/bZi9zD2

[gleaming compass]

So if we are recommending he upgrade his power supply to higher than 700 watts, do we warn him now or later the Gigabyte PSUs may explode? :P

[wide dew]

The RM850 is a good choice, and might be cheaper

[rigid storm]

Or this
ENERMAX Revolution D.F. 2 850W Full Modular Power Supply - ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 Compliant - 600W 12VHPWR Connector - 80 Plus Gold - 100% Jap Capacitors - ECO Mode - 140mm Size ATX PSU https://a.co/d/3SSCi1U

[rigid inlet]

Nope

[gleaming compass]

RM850 connects out the back or the side?

[wide dew]

It may or may not suddenly expload you or your components

[rigid inlet]

More likely that it just trips and everything turns off

[wide dew]

I think the regular version would be cheaper than the shift

[gleaming compass]

ok

I was about to say we don't know if the case can handle a shift

[wide dew]

Yeah that would be a concern, sometimes the back panel is too flush with the back work

[rigid storm]

How do I know which one? There are numerous rm850 on Amazon and all of them seem different and different prices

[wide dew]

Iv'e never heard of ENERMAX, so I don't know how reliable their PSU's are

[wide dew]

Just get the cheapest one that is rated 80+ gold

There is no real difference between the different versions

[rigid storm]

And 850 is enough?

[wide dew]

Yes

[rigid storm]

With added ram and SSD?

[wide dew]

Yes

[rigid storm]

Okay good. Just wanted to be sure

[gleaming compass]

Wait, he said he upgraded the RAM to a pair of stick for 32GB? Is there any reason not to populate all four RAM slots for 48GB of RAM?

Do we really care about keeping the CL30 that badly?

[wide dew]

Different RAM sticks, it's a 50/50 chance that it may or may not work

[gleaming compass]

as long as you keep then on different channels

there should be two different channels with 4 slots

[wide dew]

Also the ram that comes with the system is 5200mt/s

Thats pretty bad for DDR5

[gleaming compass]

That is the max memory speed for that processor

I would take the 48GB of RAM

[rigid storm]

Doesn't amd admit that 6000 is what it actually is?

[gleaming compass]

latency

just because a processor says it can boost to 5Ghz doesn't mean it will always accomplish an instruction on every tick

sometimes it has to wait for the RAM to return something

[wide dew]

Thats before EXPO is enabled

[gleaming compass]

so if the RAM is faster then the CPU can make use of more of the clock ticks

[rigid storm]

The sticks I ordered say AMD Expo

[gleaming compass]

otherwise the times it waits for RAM to return something becomes a no operation on that cpu clock tick

but I consume a lot of RAM so I am willing to sacrifice a little on benchmarks to get some more RAM

[wide dew]

For gaming, 32GB will be enough, and would benefit more from less latency, rather than the extra 16GB

[gleaming compass]

yes, for gaming with everything else closed it will be fine

[wide dew]

It will do for multitasking

[rigid storm]

Corsair RM850x SHIFT Fully Modular ATX Power Supply - 80 PLUS Gold - ATX 3.0 - PCIe 5.0 - Zero RPM - Modular Side Interface - Black https://a.co/d/ejwAMR2

[gleaming compass]

shift comes out the side

[wide dew]

Ive got 4 applications loaded with a game running and its currently using 22GB, 32GB would be enough

[gleaming compass]

it requires more room between the side of the power supply and the back of the case

[wide dew]

I agree, look towards non shift variants, just incase your case doesn't have that much room with the back panel

[rigid storm]

CORSAIR RM850x Fully Modular Low-Noise ATX Power Supply – ATX 3.1 Compliant – PCIe 5.1 Support – Cybenetics Gold Efficiency – Native 12V-2x6 Connector – Black https://a.co/d/4YChO6K

[gleaming compass]

that should work

[wide dew]

That looks good

[rigid storm]

Good good

Ty for all the help! I really appreciate it

[gleaming compass]

one very important thing to know when replacing the power supply....

[wide dew]

NEVER USE THE ORIGINAL CABLES!

[gleaming compass]

12vhpwr connectors into the video card must be FULLY PRESSED IN

or they will burn!

[wide dew]

That is alos very important

[rigid storm]

Will the PSU come with new ones?

[wide dew]

Yes

[gleaming compass]

Yes,

but make sure they are fully pushed into the video card

or they will melt

[wide dew]

Use them and replace all the power cables from your old one

[gleaming compass]

try tro also be neat with routing your cables as that impacts air flow

[wide dew]

And as @gleaming compass is saying, make sure your cables are fully pressed in, especially the 12 pin into your GPU

[rigid storm]

So aim for a rats nest. Gotcha

[gleaming compass]

12vhpwr is a poorly designed standard :(

[wide dew]

That's the way to go, since the PSU would be pulling air from the outside of the case anyway

[viscid elm]

good thing its not being used anymore