public-chat

[harsh quartz]

Official, they brought it back, iirc , it’s called new club penguin

[frosty quartz]

how do i find the process id of a window popup

[hollow mango]

Haven't heard of new club penguin but that's interesting

[placid mist]

SO anyone wanna tell me why the fuck hexos is useful when umbrelos exists?

for fr33

[fossil frost]

businesses exist despite free alternatives, all over the world... deal with it and stop getting angry over nothing

[hearty inlet]

nuuu 😭

[fossil frost]

does anyone here use amazon music (with or without unlimited)

[sudden gazelle]

i used to

[manic torrent]

Lol no

[placid mist]

what you really are saying is because linus will market it

[manic torrent]

Uhhh, ok yeah, sure.

[fossil frost]

ive got a 3 month free code, was gonna give it to anyone who wanted to push their renewal date back by 3 months.. dont care who uses what platform or why, its their own choice... i just want amazon to lose any little tiny bit of money i can get them to lose (which is why i gave away all my amazon prime gaming GOG games a few days ago)

[hollow mango]

I only use Spotify. I would use Youtube Music if my Spotify plan expires

[fossil frost]

if you are only here to argue and be a troll, mods are gonna make your stay here, quite short

[harsh quartz]

Looks like umbrel OS was released 9ish months ago. Hex was in development before that, multiple things can be created at similar timeframes. Also is umbrel built on top of truenas?

[hearty inlet]

hm

[placid mist]

this is an average user, why does truenas matter?

if anything, its more flexible than just a NAS os

[manic torrent]

What average user?

[distant locust]

In windows or Linux?

[harsh quartz]

Except, it’s not, it’s just an easier alternative. Being able to say fuck the easy part and get into the weeds when necessary is very useful

[frosty quartz]

in linux. I found the command top. Ill look into how to use it since, i was having trouble closing out of a window..

[placid mist]

home server person who just wants to do things like selfhost vids and pihole and other shit

[hearty inlet]

why is rust so hard to analyze its code patterns

[fossil frost]

thats what YOU want to do... doesnt mean thats what everyone wants to do

[placid mist]

so average user... coorperations will pay someone to not "fuck" the easy part because the configs exist for a reasohn

[harsh quartz]

A “home server person” could mean so many different things, especially in a discord like this, where what’s his name is running a small rack in his guest bedroom with lord knows what on that server

[fossil frost]

i paid for unraid, even though i could have set up something similar myself... because i just cant be arsed configuring that sort of stuff for myself anymore

[placid mist]

what else do u wanna do with a home server?

besides SELF HOST shit

literally thats the point

[hearty inlet]

/./././

[harsh quartz]

What do corporations have to do with someone wanting to know the ins and outs of how their server runs?

[placid mist]

Besides rampant pedantism, why would a person who would normally buy hexos, not go for umbrelos

im only here because i cant fihnd online comparisons

[fossil frost]

yes, i host stuff, but i dont have the time, or will, to go through configuring every little thing, every bit of redundancy, every update policy... it was worth paying $99 once, to have someone else make that effort for me... because my time is worth far more than that

[harsh quartz]

Wow, almost as if it’s brand new

[placid mist]

why not pay $0 for what seems to be the same ease of use

what in hexos makes it so special compared to umbrel

[harsh quartz]

UmbrelOS seems like you get what you see. Idk what it’s built on. HexOS is just a “easy version” of truenas for people who want to make it easier on themselves, but still want a truenas server

[fossil frost]

support... something breaks, its their problem, rather than yours

[distant locust]

Top gets you the PID, you then use kill PID#

[fossil frost]

you are paying for QA time too, they have tested their configs, they have made sure they work, they have made sure they are not going to trash a drive, or drive set... something that is free, doesnt always come with that

[frosty quartz]

"running /usr/bin/wineserver -w. This will hang until all wine processes in prefix=/home/dani/.wine terminate."

Does this mean to kill all the processes that i can find

[placid mist]

ALRIGHT now we are thinking

good point

[fossil frost]

you are paying for the convenience of somebody else having done a lot of work for you

[placid mist]

i mean umbrel does a lot of the work too, but the support thing is super helpful

contrary to popular belief im not against the idea of hexos

im trying to see where it fits, but as always the hexhuggers come out and think just because i challenge that I am the same as those people on reddit who say "bu bubbu just get truenas"

[hearty inlet]

🪳

[placid mist]

now what I AM against the idea of is trusting those pieces of shit b4 they have a good product

[harsh quartz]

What the fuck are you on about

[wispy vapor]

What is bro yapping about neofetch is neat

[placid mist]

the fact that linus needed to fucking drill into their brains that they need a self hosted ui

[harsh quartz]

Are you… okay?

[placid mist]

that is just fucking unacceptable

[fossil frost]

"just get truenas" are people who live in their parents basement and have all the time in the world to configure every little thing for themselves... i have a wife, 3 kids and 2 dogs, a full time job... i have no time, and just cannot be arsed to solve a problem that has already been solved for me

[placid mist]

agree

[hearty inlet]

mans living the dream

[placid mist]

but that still does not mean you hsould have an online only ui

[harsh quartz]

Well that’s where hexOS is cool, it’s truenas but easy

[placid mist]

if a whole company of people cant figure out that a non online ui is required... how can anyone trust them

i mean thats just scummy

charging people to not be able to control their own tech? thats exactly what the other guys do, like qnap

[harsh quartz]

You got a reference for this? Or are you just ignoring that they said it’s still a work in progress?

[placid mist]

wanshow

[frosty quartz]

hexos looks nice

[placid mist]

linus said that they need it

[harsh quartz]

The show where they said it’s still a work in progress?

[placid mist]

and community said too

thats why its a "work in progress"

the show where linus needed to flex on em a little to get em to get on board

honestly a LOCAL UI IS EASIER

[wispy vapor]

Company makes a product
Community requests feature
Company begins developing feature
Borked. is mad

[harsh quartz]

No, that’s just what happens when you have a new product, some parts are still “work in progress” when the software is being sold as beta

[placid mist]

the kind of product they are making, they should have known from the start

it was a mistake on their part, one they are fixing

[wispy vapor]

Aw many discord fucked up my greentext

[placid mist]

but until they fix it, i wont trust

forgive, not forget

[harsh quartz]

Then don’t, no one’s forcing you to, your the only one that seems bothered by any of this at all

[placid mist]

once they fix it, they can earn back the trust simple as that

its not a little "oopsie" its an attack on what the customers are doing

[wispy vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/uhh-cat-meow-meowmeow-confused-gif-8057852975940592422

[harsh quartz]

Damn I can’t remeber the person who used to rant in pub chat

[fossil frost]

there have been so many

[harsh quartz]

There was 1 in particular who would just write walls of texts only to themselves for like half an hour at a time

[manic torrent]

Dimmskii

[fossil frost]

dont say their name 3 times, it summons them

[harsh quartz]

yes, I knew it was a D, but yeah, this has real dimmskii vibes

[distant locust]

Just to make sure I'm understanding what you're trying to do. You ran the top command looking for wine. You're trying to close all instances of Wine. Is that correct? What you have posted doesn't look like output from top

[wispy vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/beetlejuice-headspin-movies-horror-comedy-gif-17717585334980323248

[distant locust]

It's pretty cool but as Linus mentioned its in the beta stage

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, and they’re not hiding that fact

Honestly, I like the idea behind it, just as a super user friendly UI that can be bypassed if needed

[crystal pike]

is there anything better than using a trackpoint when youre in bed

[harsh quartz]

Sleeping?

[fossil frost]

there are loads of other things you can do in bed that are far better than that

[frosty quartz]

That popup came up after trying to install windows fonts with wine tricks.

Earlier i had a pop up that wouldnt go away, It was installing fl studio. But it finally finished processing..

Im just trying to install the fonts now lol

[harsh quartz]

Sleeping, right?

[fossil frost]

that is 1 of them

[harsh quartz]

I don’t know what you’re talking about. That’s all there is.

[crystal pike]

idk but a trackpoint insted of a trackpad is just a lot easier

[distant locust]

What commands did you run to install the fonts?

[crystal pike]

its a lot more friendly

[fossil frost]

im generally to busy doing other things in bed, to care about track pad or any other device like that

[frosty quartz]

I used the winetricks app, through gui or clicking whatever its called..

[crystal pike]

I mean i study in bed

[fossil frost]

i study things too, but i dont need a laptop to do that

[distant locust]

What does installing these fonts do for you? What Distro are you using?

[harsh quartz]

Bold of you to assume either of these things

Actually, nvm, the bio says angry man, so yeah, married man

[crystal pike]

wait no my mistake i read it 'i study other things'

[frosty quartz]

Fl studio requires these fonts. Im on ubuntu currently, just to test things out around here. Might end up having to dual boot, if after fixing FL its still buggy. I might just not have the cpu for this.

[harsh quartz]

I mean, I might

[crystal pike]

goodnight

[fossil frost]

also.. my 9yo has discovered "soundtrap" today... hes super happy that he no longer needs to pretend he isnt using garageband on his school ipad 😄

[distant locust]

If this install borks, would you lose anything or are you still super early in your testing phase?

[frosty quartz]

i have nothing to lose anymore. I lost it all when i was on windows about 2 months ago

[frosty quartz]

Main goal is to get used to moving distros, and be able to access what i need the most.

For the most part, that is making some music rn lol.

I would want to get back into the gaming scene as well, but wont be if i cant keep them files and data safe somewhere.

[fossil frost]

why get used to moving distros? just pick one and stick with it, they all do the same

[distant locust]

Genuinely sorry to hear that.

I'd look into either of these options for installing on Ubuntu and see if they work. If they don't then the super manual method you're using might be worth looking into

Snap, if you're not aware is a super easy way to install applications on your distro of choice. Snap is under the direct control of Canonical (the company who makes Ubuntu, much like Microsoft makes Windows)

https://snapcraft.io/install/flstudio/ubuntu
https://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?t=270394

[frosty quartz]

well, incase i need to move to windows, or come back to linux. not sure where my journey to learning pc stuff should be.

all ik is that ive never actually used linux like that, so might aswell be here for a while..

[harsh quartz]

Idk what any of this means

[frosty quartz]

Cool Ill give it a shot

[fossil frost]

he likes to make his own music. he has an ipad from school, for doing school work... but hes got garageband on it for when he has downtime at school.. but he wants to make music at home, and theres nothing quite like garageband for non-apple.. soundtrap is the closest thing ive found for him, and he loves it

[distant locust]

Lemme know how it goes and best of luck. I'll do my best to help but my experience of installing Windows software via Wine is pretty limited. Feel free to DM me to get my attention if it doesn't work. I rarely check this Server for messages lol

[bold echo]

Is it just me or does Linus sound somewhat different in the latest video

[fossil frost]

hes always sounded whiney and nasaly

[bold echo]

Compare at around 1 minute with at around 12

[gaunt bloom]

How long does it take for ptm to burn in?

[bold echo]

It's very noticeable

[hot tartan]

A decent emount of cycles. The best thing for this would be the 3d mark paid version stress test

[hot tartan]

Prob just sick

[gaunt bloom]

Thanks

Though the temps are higher I’m noticing better results in cinebench

just applied it about half an hour ago I’ll keep running benchmarks to keep it warm and then cool it

[hot tartan]

Is this on CPU?

[gaunt bloom]

Yes

[hot tartan]

Then just Cinebench cycles will be fine, run it for 30 minutes. Note that PTM is best for direct die applications, IHS it's about the same as paste

[gaunt bloom]

on a laptop cpu

so i think it’s already direct die

The result are already several degrees cooler than mx6 applied about 2 months ago

holy shit

ptm 7950 is crazy

mx6 was getting the fan on my laptop to around 5500 rpm

now its at 3900 rpm

at the same temperature and its running faster

[viscid elm]

Yeah that's what good Tim will do

[mossy fern]

I liked the video about windows activation I took the Yar-Har command and turned it into a batch file
PowerShell -NoProfile -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Command "[YAR HAR GOES HERE]"

[vapid smelt]

[mossy fern]

bat file is so much more convenient

[fossil frost]

.ps1 files are just as convenient

[patent violet]

there is a oneliner for powershell you can use anyways

thats way shorter

[mossy fern]

I'm stuck in my old ways of command line and batch everything

but it works 😄

[patent violet]

muahaha

[civic fox]

reddit yelled at me once for sharing that command to new pc builders

yet the comment is still up

[mossy fern]

well I live in the basement of a repair shop it's convenient to have it on a USB and autoplay it

reinstall windows is a VERY common solution to ID-10T errors

[hot tartan]

It is important because it will make Linus money

[mossy fern]

I love LTT and GN doing very expensive independant testing

[placid mist]

Both suck shit on mobile phones tho

Huge oppurtunity

[mossy fern]

it's all the shit you'd like to verify but you don't have half a million to do yourself

[placid mist]

I would love to see LTT start looking at phones

because currently you have skrubs like MKBHD and mrwhosetheboss doing bullshit reviews on them

[vapid smelt]

but ltt has been firing employees along the way like the host of mac address

[mossy fern]

LTT has the equipment now for phone testing so it could be coming eventually

[placid mist]

im hoping so

like sometimes reviewrs are fucking stupid

i fully expect LTT to not consider important shit but it cant be worse than the bottom of the barrel crap you have from mkbhd/mrwhosetheboss

[mossy fern]

"reviewers" is a loose term for some people... coughQuantumTVcough

[patent violet]

"ohh NOO piracy dont doo this!"

leaves comment up for everyone to use anyways
"dont use it guys"

[civic fox]

pretty much

[teal estuary]

reddit, or redditors?

[mossy fern]

I am extremely anti-piracy myself, but in this specific case microsoft can eat my tricorn hat

[civic fox]

reddit themselves

the redditors were fine with it

[teal estuary]

interesting

[mossy fern]

lol

the equivalent of being passively "community noted"

[placid mist]

so what phone is linus gonna try next

[mossy fern]

after upgrading the same PC multiple times and having "activate windows" pop up a lot I stopped caring, I already shelled out

[placid mist]

HOPEFULLY xperia

[restive lion]

honestly same

i paid for it once

[mossy fern]

exactly

[harsh quartz]

firing? theres been no firing here. theres only been forced restructuring compliance

[mossy fern]

it's the PC of Theseus, we say it's the same PC and Microsoft says it's a new PC lol

[teal estuary]

devils advocate here,
labs isn't expected to directly make money, it directly costing money is expected
MA was expected to directly make money, if it wasn't profitable, thats a problem, and a position eliminated
Horst could have potentially been moved into a different position, but we don't know the details of why that didnt happen

[harsh quartz]

i liked his videos but they were very niche and fairly few and far between

[fossil frost]

where i work has had the same thing... real redundancy is long winded, and requires legal announcements, and requires you to make a real and legal offer of that person to be first in line if you start re-hiring... if you offer them money to leave of their own free will, before you find a reason to fire them for "gross misconduct" (which is allowed to mean whatever you want it to mean)... they generally choose to leave

thats how it works in canada and the uk, and most of the eu... where workers have rights... in the US, you just turn off their keycard and they cant get into the office

[mossy fern]

I wonder if labs will do any commissioned testing. like you pay them to test something objectively.

[teal estuary]

US does have some (albeit less strict) requirements on layoffs, particularly mass layoffs

[restive lion]

ngl i think horst wouldve rather left than that lol

[teal estuary]

probably, but we dont know if he was forced out or given the option

[patent violet]

My friend who works at a private security company just got an offer for a security contract at a big Insurance companies office and he was like 'lol good luck' and denied it.

[fossil frost]

likely given an "option"

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but as an employee you can also just walk out and have no obligations to even let them know

[patent violet]

these guys are screwed.

if they are asking his tiny little security firm to help out, that means the big ones were like "lol fuck off"

[fossil frost]

yeah, and they have no obligation to pay you.. at all.. everywhere else, they are required to pay you for what you did work

[teal estuary]

i mean, that depends on management and what the option(s) are

[harsh quartz]

No they are obligated to pay for work completed, otherwise you can sue

[teal estuary]

no, there are requirements on that, and the labor board (government agency) will go after companies for not paying workers

[fossil frost]

"you can choose to leave with this cheque, or you can choose to be fired for unspecified reasons"

[teal estuary]

depends on management

[teal estuary]

NLRB/DOL

[fossil frost]

ok fair enough, but in the uk and eu and everywhere else, you can also just leave by just not showing up anymore... ive done that 🙂

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but in American they can do the same to you

[teal estuary]

except for mass layoffs

[patent violet]

In the US you can leave by abandoning the job too

[teal estuary]

then they are required to give notice (though the maximum penalty of 8wks pay means they usually just give 8kws severance)

[patent violet]

Almost every work contract has a clause for "job abandonment"

If you just yeet out and dont respond in xyz hours, you have "quit"

my contract has that clause

[teal estuary]

i dont remember mine having that clause in it

[patent violet]

if its not in the contract, its gonna most certainly be in the employee handbook

[fossil frost]

yeah, thats how i quit my 2nd job.. just didnt turn up in the morning, because i had started a new job that didnt treat the employees like dirt, and wasnt a scam pretending to be a business

[patent violet]

Ive walked out of a job before while on a customers site

Thast was funny

Wheres the engineer?

gone

[restive lion]

both of those involve leaving with a fat cheque

[fossil frost]

"gross misconduct" is generally considered to mean whatever you want it to mean, and is in any/all contracts as grounds for termination without pay

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but typically there needs to be evidence or a paper trail

[fossil frost]

you would be surprised at how little of that they need

[restive lion]

where did this come from

[harsh quartz]

I’m aware, but it’s not like they can just avada kedavra you out of the building, they still have to have something

[restive lion]

and also, not in canada, which i thought was what we were talking about wrt LTT

[fossil frost]

the HR department of my previous job, and my ex-wife who is a hr manager at a multi national company.. and my friend who is a business lawyer

[patent violet]

Ooo these are always fun. This is prob the worst way to fire someone you just want to get rid of

If they come back at you in court and you cant prove gross miscounduct, you get hit with that 3x punishment

its considered a blantant attempt to illicitly layoff someone

keyword: blantant

[restive lion]

worker rights are so strong here that just about 0 companies are willing to take the risk of firing with cause, so anyone that gets fired gets full severance since its without cause

[patent violet]

and only a few different ways you can achieve "blantant" as defined by law

that would be one of them

[acoustic pond]

Oh hi again @patent violet

[manic torrent]

tbh it's easiest to give them money to fuck off

[acoustic pond]

isnt that what severence can be considered? fuck off money

[manic torrent]

yes

[acoustic pond]

"We no longer need your services so here is 3 months of pay to fuck off"

[manic torrent]

exactly

[acoustic pond]

Oh and you gotta sign this servence agreement to get the fuck off money and to agree to a non compete for a certain amount of time and that you cant take us to court for anything

[manic torrent]

noncompetes are unenforcible garbage unless you are effectively being paid enough not to work for the duration of the noncompete

[acoustic pond]

Remember kids if you get laid off, keep ALL of your paperwork they give you and get everything in writing, cause agreements will magically change where you were told 6 months of severance and it magically becomes 3 months

[fossil frost]

noncompetes may become illegal in the uk in the near future

already considered to be unenforceable by most courts.. but government are looking at outright banning them

[harsh quartz]

i thought that was already pushed through

[acoustic pond]

Texas view is its right to work, so if you dont like it you are free to leave lol

[manic torrent]

I mean it is an invalid contract, there is no compensation

[manic torrent]

"right to work" is hilariously fucked

Although I absolutely love it when businesses don't realise that people can just walk away

[harsh quartz]

my last job was mad i didnt give a "full two weeks" cause i wanted my last day to be a friday, i told them to shove it :)

[fossil frost]

they do realise it, but what they dont realise is that people are willing to do it... because the business acts like you owe them your life for the privilege of allowing you to work there

[manic torrent]

"feel free to sue me about it"

[harsh quartz]

"i can leave right now if you wanna test that theory"

its been a hot minute since ive seen a pre-game launcher like this

[manic torrent]

I negotiated four weeks of additional pay when I left a company I'd been working for for 10+ years. There was a questionable situation that honestly could have gone either way in arbitration and it was about 8 weeks of long service leave. So we split the difference and saved everyone a lot of fucking around.

[fossil frost]

ive just started playing the witcher 2 for the first time... so, saw one like this quite recently 😄

[acoustic pond]

ive seen people give 2 weeks and the company just says its fine dont come in anymore lol

[harsh quartz]

yea but even if you play it, you know thats stil an old game. the original horizon zero dawn didnt even have this, this is just on the remastered version, so its strange to see a "new" game with it

[harsh quartz]

this is always my favorite, or when the company lets you take the stored vacation as your last days

[fossil frost]

that happened to me, gave 4 weeks, and because of the nature of my job, and i was leaving... they didnt want me anywhere near anything that they did, so they just paid me to leave... i phoned my new job, told them, and i started the following monday 😄

[acoustic pond]

it used to be common your PTO was cashed out too, now its not as common, so if you had like 80 hours of capped PTO and you find out your getting laid off and they refuse to let you use any of it, its like oh well lol

[harsh quartz]

this is company dependent, ive had companies treat me both ways

[fossil frost]

in the uk they are legally required to either 1. make you take it, or. 2. pay you for it

[harsh quartz]

im the US theres no law on it, so if theyre not gonna let you take it, you have to start getting creative with planning your last 2 weeks

[acoustic pond]

my biggest pet peeves though was always dealing with HR, hearing the most annoying corp speak and trying to act like they care and it does the exact opposite lol

[fossil frost]

HR are not your friend, they are not there for the benefit of the employee... they are there to protect the company from the employee

[acoustic pond]

oh yea totally, and not a lot of people realize that.

[harsh quartz]

exit interveiws are my favorite "so did you not like the company" if i did do you think id be hop, skip, jumping out the door singing la vida loca on the way out?

[acoustic pond]

exit interviews are hilarious, like whats the point? lol

[fossil frost]

"what is the main reason that made you decide to leave" "someone else was willing to pay me more than you were" "its not all about the money" "what do you think i pay my bills with?"

[harsh quartz]

"its not all about the money" no but you also treated me like shit, so, theres that

also, they have higher benefits :P

[acoustic pond]

We are sorry you feel this way but you are not aligning with our company culture

[harsh quartz]

no, i quit, you dont get to use the firing language on me!

[acoustic pond]

oh you quit excellent! Then you void any claim to severance, have a great day!

[harsh quartz]

pffft, im in the US, i dont get shit anyways

[fossil frost]

"the culture of not paying people not even the industry average... but trying to justify the low salary with 'but the culture'... i dont pay my bills with culture... i pay them with money"

[acoustic pond]

same, imagine a company taking care of their employee lmao

[harsh quartz]

unless your in a union, the wokrer protections are a hard had and vest, and only cause those are osha mandated

[acoustic pond]

but you are getting paid with experience and exposure! You cant put a price on that right?

[acoustic pond]

union? sounds like communist talk to me

[fossil frost]

my current company took care of us very well, we got great benefits, great salary increases, always ahead of industry average... was great... then we got bought by an american company... and now it all sucks

i have a contractually obligated bonus in january... and then im leaving in february

[harsh quartz]

yeah, work culture in the US is fucked when looking at it compared to other industrial countries that also have labor laws

like, not even working conditions or anything, but the idea of working to the bone without ever taking vacations or anything, and not having social or free time is wild

[acoustic pond]

Im suprised how much this logo has grown on me over the years, initally I hated but now I love it

[harsh quartz]

this is better

[acoustic pond]

dont you mean this is..."breader"?

[harsh quartz]

no

[fossil frost]

thats the thing that gets me most when i see people talk about working in the USA... 2 weeks paid time off is something to be applauded... legal minimum in the uk is 4 weeks. most places do 5 weeks. im at 6 weeks where i work

[acoustic pond]

but we have freedom and guns!

[harsh quartz]

2 weeks paid time off, after your first year, and it accrues so you dont even get it at the start, also not everyone even gets that

[fossil frost]

i get 2 weeks off at xmas with my kids, who... have not been shot in school

[acoustic pond]

damn kinda jumped the "gun" there lol

no nothing?

[fossil frost]

im watching a video on F1 engines, and debating if midnight is the correct time to go to sleep, since i need to get up in the morning

[harsh quartz]

You can afford kids?

[acoustic pond]

man ifonly usa had decent mental health services and support.....oh well

[fossil frost]

3 of them, and 2 dogs...

[harsh quartz]

I can’t afford me

[acoustic pond]

You got married?

[fossil frost]

ive been married twice, yes

[acoustic pond]

I can't even get a girl to give me a time of the day

[strong kettle]

tutorial pls

🙏

[acoustic pond]

most be using hacks

[strong kettle]

ikr

[acoustic pond]

pics or it didnt happen

[harsh quartz]

You probably don’t want a tutorial from someone who had to do it twice

[fossil frost]

first one, get drunk in club, girl falls onto you, you both go home together... time passes... you have 2 kids and its 15 years later

[strong kettle]

true 💀

[acoustic pond]

mean 2 times is better then no times right?

[strong kettle]

is this the play?

[harsh quartz]

Debatable

[pallid falcon]

What if you swing the other way

[wispy vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-what-what-the-what-the-hell-confused-gif-5148050941166749560

[acoustic pond]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-balance-animal-gif-21807391

[fossil frost]

second one... shortly after divorce, have a friend steal your phone, install a dating app, sign you up to it, go through your photos and add them to the app, and fill stuff out for you... while you are busy eating lunch at work... then have some woman message you on an app you didnt know you had installled... then time passes... and you are married again and its 5 years later

[acoustic pond]

why dont you have your phone secure with face id or a lock?

[harsh quartz]

How do you lose your phone long enough for that?

[pale rock]

Hi
Does anyone knows why LMG uses iphones for teleprompters over android?
*linus complains so much about orientation lock, why not just use androids?

[fossil frost]

we got together at 17+18, broke up at 34ish... we just became different people and it was more or less mutually decided... we still speak, my ex-wife and current wife are friends

[fossil frost]

hes really fast at typing, he had my phone for about 4 minutes

[harsh quartz]

Mhmm

[acoustic pond]

really, your wife and ex wife are friends, im happy for you but that feels weird to me?

[acoustic pond]

I call bullshit lol

[fossil frost]

we babysit for her dog when shes away with work or friends

[harsh quartz]

They have children, if they don’t stay friends, it gets weird. I wish my parents had stayed friends

[fossil frost]

yep, its just easier this way

[acoustic pond]

mean true, my parents didnt when they got divorce, I was used as a pawn against my dad for child support money, so props to them

[fossil frost]

life is difficult enough as it is, i dont need to go out of my way to make it more difficult

[acoustic pond]

You would think but I hear people say that all the time and do the exact opposite

like man im going to be short rent this month so its stressing me out, so let me go get a tattoo for 200 dollars lol

[fossil frost]

ive also done that

fyi, your calves are a really painful place to get a tattoo

[acoustic pond]

ive hear your throat is too

[fossil frost]

down the side of your leg is fine... arms, fine

[vapid smelt]

did they set up a demilitarized zone between them?

[fossil frost]

guy who did my tattoos said his throat was worse than his balls

[acoustic pond]

dude sounds ballsey

[harsh quartz]

No, one was depressed and the other kept trying to get me to live with them when they didn’t even have a permanent place to live, and they kept trying to do it by, instead of making me like them, trying to make me dislike the other

Cause I had the choice of who I stayed with, there was no custody arrangement

[fossil frost]

common mistake in any relationships in general is trying to get someone to like you by trying to get you to dislike someone/something else... it never works

[acoustic pond]

well I don't have any friends or relationships so I dont need to worry about that

[vapid smelt]

they should have done nesting you stayed in the same house and they rotated

[acoustic pond]

like wife swapping?

[wispy vapor]

What is going on here

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but it was basically the reason for the divorce anyways, that parent was a little on the bonkers side. Anywhos.

[acoustic pond]

also fuck creative cloud for giving me a months head up telling me my student plan is going from 25 dollars to 36 dollars for no warning

[harsh quartz]

BWEKFAST!

[acoustic pond]

this wouldent of happened if they used Arch linux

[wispy vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/breakfast-come-over-pancakes-eggs-sausage-gif-19984940

[harsh quartz]

All my homies hate arch

[acoustic pond]

oh but did I tell you, I use Arch. Don't worry ill tell you again a little later

[harsh quartz]

All the sane homies hate arch

[acoustic pond]

because M$ bad

[acoustic pond]

casuals lol

[harsh quartz]

good to know, playstation account recovvery just doesnt work on firefox

[pallid falcon]

Why

[ember mason]

Hewuo :3

[grim belfry]

A months notice isn’t too bad

[grim belfry]

Becuz Firefox suckz

[pallid falcon]

Tru

[mystic tundra]

chromium reskin suck vs firefox suck

which one worse

[upbeat ermine]

chromium

[round pine]

hi

[mystic tundra]

hi

[round pine]

I mostly use FireFox. I would say both suck

[restive lion]

breaking news web browsers suck

[mystic tundra]

wait, chromium is better or firefox

[upbeat ermine]

chromium suck

[mystic tundra]

welp, i hope mozilla doesn’t make firefox even worse than it is

[upbeat ermine]

firefox doesnt really suck

[restive lion]

firefox definetly sucks lol

[upbeat ermine]

its just the lack of support that makes it suck

[round pine]

The only browsers that do not "suck"(in my POV) are NetSurf, Links, Lynx, and LadyBird. Most of the browsers I mentioned do not care about JS(only LadyBird does). For a Web site to not "suck"(in my POV) is for it to be accessible by any means.

[round pine]

agree

[mystic tundra]

it will soon get worse

[upbeat ermine]

My friend uses Edge and i gotta say.... it's much better than i thought it would be

[restive lion]

and the lack of support is because... it sucks

[mystic tundra]

i hope they don’t compromise some of the privacy policies

[upbeat ermine]

why

[restive lion]

ask any web dev

[round pine]

Edge is just Microsoft Chrome

[upbeat ermine]

i know but it has some cool features

[mystic tundra]

layed off staff, dropped some advocacy programs

last thing for them to do is going public

[round pine]

First we got DRM. Second, web standards are getting worse.(I am not specifically talking about Firefox, I am just talking about why every modern browser that is not Chrome is getting worse)

[upbeat ermine]

so youre a chrome user?

[round pine]

Under Ticker $MZLA

[round pine]

No. Mostly I use Firefox with Arc-WTF. If I use Chrome, I use Vivaldi. I miss Opera Presto

[restive lion]

thing is, chromium has such a huge market share it can just add whatever apis it wants and they effectively become web standards

[mystic tundra]

all of them are getting worse, google searches are more and more irrelevant when you’re actually looking for something

lack of deep web access

and also ad searches

searching anything that’s “budget” or “best” product gives you nearly always poor results

or straight up sponsored shit

[round pine]

yeah. I currently use DDG, and Qwant.

[supple pawn]

Ah, the good ol' days of the interwebs, when Internet Explorer ruled the web.

Or maybe netscape navigator?

[dusky scaffold]

Yeah, just a huntsman, the actually dangerous ones are usually a lot smaller than that

[round pine]

I missed Opera 12-14

[grim belfry]

Bing and Google are still the best search engines

[supple pawn]

Y'all remember when everyone was playing runescape and talking on msn messenger? Lol

[supple pawn]

No love for startpage?

[grim belfry]

No

Because it's crap

[mystic tundra]

yeah thought about switching from ff but there are like too many options

unsure which one of them are actually worth trying

[grim belfry]

It's Google with a crap UI

[mystic tundra]

idk what happened to google

[supple pawn]

Enshittification

I'd credit Google with inventing the phenomenon

Or at least perfecting it

[patent violet]

This Hawk Tuah coin thing is funny as fuck drama

[supple pawn]

Someone needs to find the bank where all the bitcoins are stored and burn it down

[patent violet]

They setup a company in the Cayman Islands

Thats funny as fuck

[vapid smelt]

i think thats every bitcoin miners computer

[patent violet]

That is correct

You also have some areas of the block chain which are not powered by people mining but more or less gateways/OOB transaction processors that handle transactions without the fees

I dont actually know how that works

the whole blockchain thing is so convoluted in some areas

[grim belfry]

Google is still the best search engine* for most things

[patent violet]

Idk I like edge over chrome still but its still just as invasive

[supple pawn]

I like the Librewolf

[grim belfry]

Brains not working

[patent violet]

https://x.com/HalieyWelchX/status/1864448384326881713
Kekekekekekek

[pulsar violet]

My chair lumbar support is to low and I’m about to crash out

[grim belfry]

I prefer edge

[patent violet]

Oh Search engine... yeah it is

but man has it become serious ass

[grim belfry]

It’s the least bad

[patent violet]

very specific search queries I know come up with what I am looking for in specific no longer work

and very obscure things which should have at least 1 relevant website linked to it come up with nothing now

I have to use Duck Duck Go to search for tools in the telecom industry

[grim belfry]

Bing is getting better but I only really use it for internal search

Really good at that

[patent violet]

Bing is indeed getting better

https://www.quentinsagerconsulting.com/ I had to use bing to find these guys again because I couldnt remember their name

[supple pawn]

Bing is good for searching certain types of content

[patent violet]

in fact, good luck finding anyone worth a damn that sells these DB's with google

https://www.telcodata.us/data-downloads Bing even found me these guys

Which gives you the exact same data for $15/month instead of 2.7K/yr

that was an amazing find

[grim belfry]

Your numbering system is so strange

Especially with LNP between fixed and mobiles

[patent violet]

It is and it isnt at the same time. Weve had to sort of... put more shit on top of old shit

[patent violet]

This isnt much of an issue anymore unless its a number thats locked to a provider

which only landline's can be

[grim belfry]

…Numbers can be locked to providers?

Yikes

[patent violet]

Yes. Anchor numbers

You pay extra for those

[grim belfry]

Vanity type numbers?

[patent violet]

No, actually its a type of reverse contract

An anchor number is a number you lock to a provider, but that provider is locked into whatever deal you get with that number

and they cant sell the contract or adjust it

It also requires that if they go out of business, before they are allowed to dip, they have to reanchor you at their own out of pocket costs

[grim belfry]

So no LNP with those numbers even if you didn’t want that contract?

[patent violet]

the number is physically coded into the LERG

Correct

But there are only so many anchor numbers allowed per block owned by a provider

[grim belfry]

👀

[patent violet]

its a dying breed anyways

[grim belfry]

Any number can be ported to any provider that does port-ins here

Unless an EU is no longer eligible for a local number

[patent violet]

Thats generally how it works now

LRN is still a PITA though

in fact all billing related bullshit with tel. stuffs is annoying

Our LNP actually gets even worse tbh

Carriers can port your number without actually following through with the damn LOA Process

so suddenly: number is ported... you dont know why

your carrier still says its active on your end

??? Oh nooo some random ass carrier ported it without sending the LOA

gotta do some SLAMMING tickets now (fuck you bandwidth.com)

i hate that picture

everyone always send it to me sand says "lol you look like linus/linus looks like you int his picture lolololol"

[main shard]

[vapid smelt]

damn the disrespect people think linus is in highschool / college

[wispy hornet]

Kind of an off topic question but can anyone help me choose a pc I have 2 choices and cant decide right now

[patent violet]

I still get asked what college I go to and sometimes which highschool

[vapid smelt]

i like option 2

[wispy hornet]

uh but its amd :c

[patent violet]

I always respond "I go to the college of Sr Telephony Engineer @ <Insert Company I work for here> and the cool thing is, they pay me to go to the college"

[civic fox]

yes this is what i like

[patent violet]

lol wtf is this

[civic fox]

So mi

[patent violet]

did you anthropomorphize your PC

[civic fox]

aka songbird from cyberpunk

[civic fox]

no i just put her as a png inside the config directory and thats how i did it

[pure knoll]

Me with neofetch ASCII art :)

[civic fox]

neo fetch isnt in the arch repos anymore

so fastfetch is all we got

[patent violet]

yeah neofetch got archived

[glossy niche]

why floatplane down?

[alpine gale]

The Floatplane website and the video streams themselves are working fine for me.

[north escarp]

Site loaded up for me, if it persiste try to clear your cache mayhaps

[heavy bane]

RTX on top

[supple pawn]

GTX on bottom?

[harsh quartz]

Secret access confirmed

[grim belfry]

Is there no validation?
Does the losing carrier/csp not have to accept the port request?

[supple pawn]

Today has been boring

[harsh quartz]

If not that’s fuckin wild. It’s like a 2 month process here

[pure knoll]

Yeah ik

[pure knoll]

Ofc it's on top, 4090 is like 100x faster then best gtx

I don't see your point

[grim belfry]

lol must suck to suck

[pure knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/trade-offer-gif-21546586

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-16348084597044947976

[grim belfry]

Most LNP SNAs are accepted same or next business day and then the cutover can be scheduled for any day after the SNA has been accepted

Emergency reversals are usually done same business day

Other than with Symbio and ABB
Ironically they’re the slow ones

[harsh quartz]

I’ve only ever done them with ATT here and they slow

But usually the client is also slow, and the receiver is not as slow but kinda slow, and then after all the paperwork is actually done they usually schedule the cutover for the next Friday, even if the paperwork is done on a Monday

[grim belfry]

That sounds like a mostly ATT thing

However I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s industry wide over there in the US

[harsh quartz]

Either it was an att thing or a Cytracom thing, idk which. The longer part was always getting the LOA and invoices from the client though

[grim belfry]

Why do you need invoices

Do they actually need to write a LOA? Can you not just get verbal consent?

[harsh quartz]

Idk, it was just part of the process, always needed the last 2 invoices, I guess to verify that they actually owned and were paid up on that number. Also yeah the LOA was actually paperwork that had to be filled out and emailed back

[grim belfry]

Yikes

[harsh quartz]

Which, although not hard, clients never liked doing anything you asked them to

[grim belfry]

They shouldn’t have to be up to date on payments to port out…

[harsh quartz]

I believe the line has to be in good standing with att for them to allow it to be ported

That might just be an att thing though

[grim belfry]

Into ATT or out of ATT

[harsh quartz]

Out of att, to Cytracom

[grim belfry]

That would be against industry code here

Sort of illegal

[harsh quartz]

Wait what

Yall can just change carriers even if not paid up with the last one?

[grim belfry]

Technically, yes

However that does not magically release you of your debt to the losing provider

[harsh quartz]

That doesn’t make a whole lotta sense. I mean it’s the same as them cutting service to a line that isn’t paid up

[grim belfry]

As long as the service is active and the ROU holder has provided the correct information the port is almost guaranteed to be accepted

[grim belfry]

You can't just cut someone's service if they haven't paid

[grim belfry]

Why? It's their phone number?

[harsh quartz]

Huh?

[grim belfry]

It's an essential service

You would be cutting someone off from the rest of the world

[harsh quartz]

What service exactly are we talking about

[grim belfry]

There are certain requirements that need to be taken into consideration before suspending or cancelling a service due to non-payment

[grim belfry]

A consumer or small business telecommunications service

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, that can definitely just be cut here for nonpayment

[grim belfry]

Small business meaning a spend of <$40,000 p/a on telecommunications

[harsh quartz]

So if yall don’t pay a bill what happens?

[grim belfry]

It depends on your agreement and the provider's financial hardship policy

Most carriers/csps will attempt to contact a customer multiple times regarding their situation, and offer a plan change or payment plan

[harsh quartz]

You sure?

[grim belfry]

If someone isn't paying their bill they are almost always classed as being in financial difficulty

[harsh quartz]

That gives you 10 days

[grim belfry]

Correct. But almost no carrier/csp would do that

[harsh quartz]

Well here it’s like 2 days and with no warnings

Our electricity got cut a few months back, the bill wasn’t paid and 48 hours after it was due to the minute, the electricity was cut. After 30+ years of not a bill missed

No contact or anything

[grim belfry]

Essentially, if someone is willing to pay the bill, but is unable to, they are in financial hardship

Or if paying that bill would put them into financial hardship

And it's very rare for a customer to be disconnected

Disconnecting a customer is just asking for a complaint

[harsh quartz]

Either way, original point, yeah our lines can be cut almost immediatly if not paid up, and att won’t transfer the line out if it’s in bad standing

[grim belfry]

And complaints are much more costly than just providing the customer with service until they pay their bill (if in financial hardship)

[grim belfry]

I believe electricity is similar here

[harsh quartz]

Electricity is similar to ours or the telecom one?

[grim belfry]

Similar to telecommunications

[harsh quartz]

Yeah I’d imagine if y’all have those regulations on telecom I’d imagine all your services are

[grim belfry]

I have heard of people going months without paying their electricity bill and being tens of thousands in arrears

[harsh quartz]

Arrears just debt?

[grim belfry]

Yes

[harsh quartz]

Kek

[harsh quartz]

Electricity, gas, water, telecom, it’s all the same here AFAIK

[grim belfry]

I would assume some customers would just open frivalous complaints so they can't be disconnected

Which is fair enough. Everyone deserves access to electricity

[alpine gale]

https://tenor.com/view/edna-mode-os-incríveis-the-incredibles-gif-12890054

[harsh quartz]

Can I be the guest?

[grim belfry]

Are there any RDP clients for Linux that don't suck

[harsh quartz]

I think we actually do have a similar thing here, I saw a meme about recently, there’s a guy who abused the “check is in the mail” system for years

[grim belfry]

Remmina is crap

[grim belfry]

Yeah I saw that one lol

[harsh quartz]

Idk where that was, I’d assume the US cause I don’t figure other countries would have a backwards system like that

[grim belfry]

Cheques are slowly starting to not exist here I'm pretty sure

Yep

2028 is when cheques die and lots of banks no longer issue them

[harsh quartz]

Checks exist very very rarely here, but some things still rely on them

[grim belfry]

Finland got rid of them in 1993 lmao

[harsh quartz]

When I did my car loan, I did a 13k check for the down payment and the last payment to the bank was required to be a check that was labeled as the last payment

[grim belfry]

When I was in high school working at the supermarket there was the occasional older person who'd pay with a cheque

[harsh quartz]

When I was at dollar general, we used to have check readers. People would pay like 8$ with a check

[grim belfry]

I'm pretty sure cheques are about $2 each here

Nvm $5 each at Commbank

[harsh quartz]

They’re not nearly that expensive here but they do cost. A checkbook of like 50-100 costs like 5$ or something

But you have to get them through your bank and each bank is different

[grim belfry]

That's the price to deposit/cash them at least

No clue how much it costs to buy a book

[harsh quartz]

Oh, I don’t think ours have a cost. AFAIK checks are just run like debit cards now

And realistically, most cards don’t cost now either, it’s very rare

[vapid smelt]

i have never used or owned a check

[harsh quartz]

I’ve used 2. Both for my car

[grim belfry]

I used to get cheques from my grandparents for my birthdays

[harsh quartz]

I still get those

[grim belfry]

It was really annoying when it would cost $5 or whatever to deposit them when they could've just given me cash

A $5 fee on a $20 cheque isn't super efficient lmao

[harsh quartz]

Yeah I never had that, maybe cause that’s a perk of my checking account? I think it’s fairly standard for modern checking accounts to do that transaction for free now

[alpine gale]

Never written my own, but have had to cash lots. Costs me nothing to cash them though.

[patent violet]

They are supposed to yes, but what happens is you submit the port information to NPAC and then wait for the S timer to expire and its ported. Many carriers are not monitoring the NPAC notifications (because they suck and only work half the time) and rely on the LOA's from other carriers

So what happens is that LOA never comes and NPAC just by default ports it

[eager notch]

It costs you to deposit checks?

I deposit them for free on my phone to my bank

[patent violet]

then after its ported... eventually the LOA Does come in

but by then its too late... their porting team took forever and too long

[harsh quartz]

Oh yeah that features really cool except I don’t like then having to keep/burn the check

[patent violet]

This happens when carriers outsource their porting

[grim belfry]

I'm sure there are some seniors bank accounts that it's free for but one of my banks charges $3-$5 and my other bank doesn't accept them

[sullen ingot]

Hello

[patent violet]

The only time I paid to deposit a check is to pay for an immediate funds service.

[eager notch]

I assume you're not in North America?

Because I've legitimately never heard of a bank charging to deposit a check

[grim belfry]

Australia

[manic torrent]

cheques are very very dead here

[grim belfry]

We don't use payment methods that fell out of fashion 40 years ago

[eager notch]

I've written one check in my life

[grim belfry]

Also most personal accounts don't come with an account keeping fee, so it does make sense to charge for admin-heavy transactions like cheques

[manic torrent]

I have used cheques probably single digit times in my life

and I'm older than most people here

[grim belfry]

A boomer

[eager notch]

I get paid in them still to this day

[harsh quartz]

Most modern checking accounts can be opened and kept for free

You can get paid ones for extra perks and whatnot but most are free

[patent violet]

I use them to pay my bail/bondsman every 2 years when I get tossed in adult time out for smoking

thats about it

[harsh quartz]

For smoking?

[patent violet]

weed

[harsh quartz]

Oh yeah that’s a crime still. Crazy how that slips the mind

[patent violet]

when I inevitably get caught

it happens every 2 years like clockwork

literally within a week of the "Anniversary"

[sullen ingot]

i need help clearing some space on my laptop i tried everything i could find on YouTube im confused what took up space

[patent violet]

I can always feel it coming

[harsh quartz]

I think you just got a bad strand

[patent violet]

get thrown in jail, either pay the bail bondsman the $200 (lol) or get the PR Bond and watch as they do nothing but drop the case a week later

[eager notch]

This will get rid of literally everything on your laptop

https://dban.org/

[patent violet]

Its always teh same reason too

"Dismissed in the name of justice"

[manic torrent]

perfect

[patent violet]

thats the most generic dismissal you can ever get too

[sullen ingot]

Lord please save me but thanks

[eager notch]

If you like keeping files then I would suggest buying a bigger hard drive

[sullen ingot]

Im on a laptop and drives are a lot

[sullen ingot]

I did that already

Hold on let me send you a picture after i did that

[grim belfry]

@manic torrent :p

[manic torrent]

I use remmina

[grim belfry]

Hmm

[sullen ingot]

Look at your message

[grim belfry]

It doesn't seem as good as Microsoft RDP on Windows

[manic torrent]

If you DMed me, I'm not going to read it

[manic torrent]

I rarely use RDP and I don't give a shit 😄

[grim belfry]

:(

[sullen ingot]

Oh ok

[grim belfry]

I might give ThinLinc a go and if not I guess I'll be going back to Windows on my new laptop

[manic torrent]

because of RDP client?

Damn

[grim belfry]

Yes

My laptop is basically just a thin client anyway

[sullen ingot]

But yeah im confused because i only have 16 gb worth of games on my laptop and the app i do have dont even take up a lot space i delete all the temp files and all the other files i dont need

[pure knoll]

You are right tho, windows Rd is so silky smooth even on pretty trash networks

[manic torrent]

wiztree

[sullen ingot]

Uh ok thanks

[grim belfry]

It can cope with like 500kbps for most text based programs

[pure knoll]

Yeah, very impressive compared to other alternatives such as pascal

[grim belfry]

And you get used to latency very quickly if it's under about 50ms

[grim belfry]

Parsec?

[pure knoll]

Sorry, me being me :P

[grim belfry]

I believe parsec works more like VNC and is effectively just sending a video stream to the remote client

[rapid sleet]

hola

[pure knoll]

Ah, I see

[pure knoll]

Only english please (I'm just kidding) 🤓☝️

[grim belfry]

Whereas RDP renders the UI elements on the remote client, and is aware of fonts etc

[manic torrent]

correct

[pure knoll]

I'll need to read up on how that works, I always assumed it worked differently

[rapid sleet]

hehe. hello 🙂

[pure knoll]

Hallo 🤠

[grim belfry]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-server/remote/understanding-remote-desktop-protocol

[pure knoll]

Thanks 👍😊

My ass went straight for Wikipedia 😭😭

[grim belfry]

Wikipedia works too

Probably a bit better actually

[pure knoll]

I'll read both

Hmm, so the data from an application is packaged, encrypted and sent to the client instead of a video stream?

[manic torrent]

yes, it's structured data about the window and display, rather than a video stream

[sullen ingot]

Im just going to use darik and wipe my laptop ....

[pure knoll]

Ah, ok

Does that increase efficiency?

[manic torrent]

it increases responsiveness.

[pure knoll]

Ah, ok

[harsh quartz]

Does Microsoft not have a Linux version of RDP?

[grim belfry]

Huh what

What do you mean?

[harsh quartz]

They have a Mac version

[grim belfry]

Oh

[harsh quartz]

Idk if they have a Linux one or not

[grim belfry]

Yeah there's no Linux RDP client made by Microsoft

[harsh quartz]

Huh. I would’ve just assumed there was, there’s one for Mac and IOS. The IOS one works quite well actuallly

[grim belfry]

Windows App*

[harsh quartz]

?

[grim belfry]

The app formerly known as Microsoft Remote Desktop on iOS, macOS and Android is now known as Windows App

[harsh quartz]

Oh that’s fuckin hilarious

[grim belfry]

You can also download the new Windows App app from the Microsoft store on a Windows PC to access another PC remotely, or a Windows 365 Cloud PC

[harsh quartz]

Sure enough, I haven’t used it in like a year :p

[harsh quartz]

Or you can just use RDP like a normal person

So is there a “windows app” for Linux?

[grim belfry]

No

[grim belfry]

The Windows App app works better for Windows 365 Cloud PCs

Easier UI for end users

[harsh quartz]

Damn

[grim belfry]

It looks exactly like the iOS and macOS Windows App apps

[harsh quartz]

Huh? All they have to do is double click it and then they’re in the remote pc. Idk what could be easier

[grim belfry]

Double clicking the .rdp file is hard for some people

The Windows App app makes it pretty

[harsh quartz]

That is a them issue

[grim belfry]

There are also apps inside the Windows App app

[sullen ingot]

BOB THANK YOU

[harsh quartz]

Oh they’re trying to make yet another “everything” app dashboard

[grim belfry]

You can access lots of apps from the Windows App app

[harsh quartz]

You can access windows apps from the windows app. Who could’ve seen this coming.

[grim belfry]

They also have a ChromeOS version

[harsh quartz]

…can you use that?

But yeah I forgot there was already a chromeOS RDP app

[grim belfry]

On Linux, no because it's just the Android app

[harsh quartz]

Oh, Linux, so customizable, so free…

[grim belfry]

Maybe with a slightly different UI for the bigger screen

[pure knoll]

remmina

if you mean like hosting rdp, i believe not

[harsh quartz]

No I meant like an official Microsoft one, they have it for seemingly every other OS

[grim belfry]

Incorrect

[pure knoll]

ok, maybe like freerdp or something i have no clue

[grim belfry]

Ubuntu has an RDP server built in now

[harsh quartz]

But not an RDP client?

[grim belfry]

Not a good one

[harsh quartz]

Sadge

[grim belfry]

Remmina is crap

[pure knoll]

its okay tbf

[manic torrent]

honestly I don't even know what 'good' looks like in terms of what you want

[grim belfry]

Lmao

[manic torrent]

it works for me, and lik eI said it doesn't matter

[grim belfry]

Not bad, duh

[pure knoll]

im assuming no office 365 for windows, therefore no client

[harsh quartz]

Oh btw while bob is in chat imma just say how fuckin awesome the satisfactory arachnophobia mode is. It’s hilarious

[grim belfry]

ThinLinc has already crashed once

:(

[harsh quartz]

Tell it to stop

Oh wait, it already did

[manic torrent]

haha yes, they were like... ok I guess we need to do this so ... MINIMUM EFFORT

[pure knoll]

oh dear

[grim belfry]

No it froze and I had to remember how to end a process on Linux

[harsh quartz]

It’s so much more effort than I’ve seen like ANY other game do and it’s done in such a funny way I love it. Still irks me a little bit but it’s playable

[manic torrent]

one of their devs had arachnaphobia

[harsh quartz]

Whacking cat.png with a candy cane

[full fossil]

this kinda looks like citrix?

[grim belfry]

Yes

Citrix uses RDP

[static thistle]

Yo I’m getting abt 350 fps on fn and 120 on dayz is this normal for a 4070ti super

I’m on 1440p 144hz and max settings on all game I want the max fps but do not want my game looking like it’s playing from a potato

[civic fox]

some games are just more intense then the others and the higher the settings the lower the fps can be

[alpine gale]

Forknife and ZayD are very different games, each with their own codebases. The former is designed to run on almost anything, the latter is (or at least, was) an unoptimized mess of spaghetti code.

[supple pelican]

Lol so Linus has been using his Note 9 for 6 years as well, I need to beat him and keep using my S7 and wait for him to upgrade xD

But I mean to be fair he's tried out lots of other devices so he hasn't used it for 6 years straight like i have

[civic fox]

i have my first phone which is a S8

[karmic veldt]

i have you beat lol, ive had my note 5 since 2016 only had to replace the s pen twice

[long briar]

He upgraded tho

he just... broke his phone

and went back to the reviewer lifestyle of bouncing around phones

[supple pelican]

Wow nice, which Android version is it on?

Mine's at a point where most apps are still supported since Android 8.0 is the min version for plenty of apps

always annoying when apps aren't supported though

[supple pelican]

nice, my S7 is my first phone as well

[long briar]

always annoying that they want to run on phones with adequate security?

[supple pelican]

oh I was just confused watching the iPhone video

[karmic veldt]

7.0

[supple pelican]

ah okay, you have touchwiz? xD

I have Samsung Experience which is decent, not horrible like touchwiz and not oneui

I remember when I got my phone I quickly upgraded it two Android versions and I loved Samsung Experience far more than touchwiz, I think I just hated it lol

[supple pelican]

No I get that, it's just annoying for me

[long briar]

Touchwiz is so bloated

[supple pelican]

fr

[supple pelican]

as someone who's started to use Reddit a lot more in the past few months this is why I love Discord so much more, you get to actually discuss stuff 😭

but I mean they both have their places

[civic fox]

the S8 is amazing still works and runs android 9 i would definitely go for another samsung for sure

[long briar]

OxygenOS 11 is I think my favourite ui hands down

[supple pelican]

mm nice

[long briar]

shame Oneplus merged with Oppo for Coloros

[supple pelican]

if I do upgrade I'd go for an S24 with 7 years of software updates

[karmic veldt]

It’s gotten so slow I’m actually upgrading this year for Christmas to an iPhone 13 Pro

[supple pelican]

Not sure what the S25 will bring though

[civic fox]

yea thats the plan when i can afford it

[supple pelican]

Also I was S23 with its curved sides was tempting at a discount, I liked it more than the S24's boxier design

[granite tinsel]

qi2 or there's no point

[supple pelican]

felt worse to hold

[supple pelican]

I use my G14 laptop mostly so I don't have much need to

[karmic veldt]

I like Samsung devices for their parts but I just like the apple os ecosystem more

[civic fox]

yea i also use my laptop 90% of the time

[long briar]

Nobody wants qi2

adds too much bulk and Qi2 magnets interfere with S pen

[granite tinsel]

i do; add it or i'm never switching back to android

[long briar]

Get a case

Qi2 EPP and MPP are two different Qi2 protocols

[civic fox]

wireless charging is not smth i prefer

[long briar]

EPP doesn't have magnets but still has the Qi2 handshake for 15w

[karmic veldt]

Most of the time they never work anyway XD

[long briar]

MPP adds the magnets, both are Qi2

you can get a phone with 15w+ Qi2 and slap a magnetic case on it

[civic fox]

yep i will buy a phone regardless if it has it or not but i probably won't use it

[long briar]

but for now while for some reason every company wants to make their phones slimmer, no point adding magnets for a niche feature

[long briar]

It works fine, I use it every day

[long briar]

I assume you use a case? or no

[granite tinsel]

i do

[long briar]

so why not just... add the magnets into the case?]

[cloud marlin]

is the sama brand trustable?

[long briar]

People who can handle the bulk caused by magnets can use a case

People who don't use a case often cite hand feel which they'd want a thinner phone somehow

then there's the weird people who want thicker phone but no case like naked iPhone users

[fresh ermine]

I somehow found this street fighter machine in a barbecue shop

[patent violet]

I just played Star citizen for the first time

the lag was insane

idk what I was expecting

[south stone]

What is this 'loop buffer' thing that was disabled on agesa 1.0.0.6 affecting the ryzens 7x00?

https://elchapuzasinformatico.com/2024/12/amd-desactivo-zen-4-ryzen-7000-funcion-loop-buffer/

Article in spanish. 😦

[manic torrent]

How much do you understand about coding, and how much about CPU design?

[south stone]

Basic english works for me. Haha

[patent violet]

This was actually something that was meant to be a power saving feature

The current theory is that there is an exploit that uses this

The loop buffer is basically a small memory storage feature inside Zen 4 CPUs that can hold instructions for loops. These loops are sequences that are repeated several times when a program is executed. With the loop buffer, the process of fetching these instructions from the cache or the memory is canceled/bypassed, which saves power and improves efficiency.

No need to redecode the instructions into microops

[quartz garden]

Hi👋

[patent violet]

just keep the microop inthe queue

and run it again

this right here is considered the "Front end"

that they were talking about

they would shut this down actually

[uneven stirrup]

My new 240hz monitor

Sorry here’s a better picture

[tepid jasper]

ew what is that, 2x32 + 2x8?

[uncut trench]

hurts my soul if it isn't measurable by minecraft stacks

[winged gust]

1 stack and 16 dirt blocks

[uncut trench]

hell yea

[tepid jasper]

just get two stacks smh

[uncut trench]

im running a stack of gigs myself

[vapid smelt]

is that even legal?

[uncut trench]

windows will support 128 i think

[tepid jasper]

can confirm

[uncut trench]

this just in windows supports 2 stacks of dirt

[tepid jasper]

oh wait I run pro anyways

[restive lion]

god i hate that this is what people think it is

[tepid jasper]

multiples of 2

[uncut trench]

well its more akin to binary lines being measured in 8's and then being scaled up, but yea i hate happiness also

[uncut trench]

idk the difference but i have pro

[tepid jasper]

moar ram

up to 2tb

[uncut trench]

oh damn

well guess i'm covered

[obsidian oracle]

nice

i never managed to fill it to 60% let alone 110% to see that feature lol

[pulsar violet]

Shower thought, how many average sucks can you get out of a standard sized juice box

8-10 got it

[civic fox]

Shower thoughts do be weird

[obsidian oracle]

my sips arent average

i do it small to enjoy the taste for long time

and its been decades since i last used a straw lol

[uncut trench]

whenever i get a cup of coffee i cut a hole in the lid so i don't have to sip it, and also chug it when it cools off

[obsidian oracle]

coffe moment

[uncut trench]

big caffiene addict right here

i blame my mom for owning a coffee shop

[austere ruin]

I just got fucking kicked out
Of my school for and Im not joking about this because I had to go to the doctor

[patent violet]

lol for what

[manic torrent]

unreliable narrator

[uncut trench]

dude fr

[austere ruin]

Nah I’m not

Listen to this absolute story

[vapid smelt]

i got kicked of 3rd grade for stomping on the principals foot

[austere ruin]

So I was kicked out of my apprenticeship because of my political party that I can’t even vote for

I’m not kidding the other person was trans and I had an apprenticeship in the kitchen

And this bumasss talked smack about this and that and blah blah about how my opinion was so wrong

[patent violet]

awh thats a sexy tranny right there

[austere ruin]

And I said and I quote “this is a kitchen not a political debate could you please cut the carrots so I can put them in the pot-“

[austere ruin]

Transgender

[patent violet]

he knows

[patent violet]

Where do you live?

[austere ruin]

But apparently that single single sentence was discriminatory words sexist racist and threatening

[austere ruin]

The Netherlands

[vapid smelt]

https://www.mbusa.com/en/behind-the-mercedes-benz-star/4MATIC ofc its Mercedes

[idle nymph]

imma be real it do be sounding like an unreliable narrator either on your side or the trans person making up shit

[austere ruin]

And this was about the man trump

I live in the eu

[uncut trench]

how dare you want to do your job

[austere ruin]

All I said about the statement was personally I think he was a better option

Oh yeah and the transgender almost attacked me because of a tank fact-

Which you know is like very interesting

Because me and another guy were in one side of the kitchen

[patent violet]

tank fact like... the one that shoots things and blows them up

[austere ruin]

Talking about tanks form ww2

He said yeah I don’t get why the Sherman tanks were so shit built

[uncut trench]

my favorite part

[idle nymph]

slippery slope

[austere ruin]

And I said that the reason was that a German tiger could take out 4 Sherman’s but there were always 5

That is a fun fact cuz that was fr the tactic for a little

Just have 5 Sherman’s go together instead of 4

[patent violet]

Thats actually what they did

[austere ruin]

And he went offfff on me

Like OFFF

[patent violet]

the Shermans were not bad but they were not as good as the germans tanks

[austere ruin]

The transgender went

[patent violet]

but we had more every fight during the initial deployments to the theater

[vapid smelt]

we just needed to wait a little bit for the tiger engine to catch on fire on its own

[idle nymph]

i think the reason you got kicked was more about the trump part prolly

[austere ruin]

(Full caps) you shut the fuck up with your political talk

I said now how in gods green earth is a tank from world war 2

Political

Like someone explain to me on how in gods green earth a fun fact about history political is

Like I just had a fun tank fact man ☹️

[uncut trench]

someone at the bar got pissed at me because i said microsoft teams sucks

[patent violet]

it does suck

its absolute trash

[grim belfry]

It's better than the Google Workspace alternative lmao

[uncut trench]

EXACTLY

[grim belfry]

That crap is such a joke

[patent violet]

Slack

[austere ruin]

And then they didnt do anything to the person who almost stabbed me with a knife over a tank fact but when I say that trump was a better option for president I get a literal 4 page essay About how he is bad

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/teams-microsoft-teams-gaming-rage-gamer-rage-gif-19036770

[grim belfry]

Never been touched :p

[patent violet]

awh how cute

[austere ruin]

Like this seems a little weird that I get a 4 page essay and they didn’t get shit for almost stabbing me-

[vapid smelt]

your parents named you after Thomas the tank engine?!

[grim belfry]

Correct

[patent violet]

choo choo

[uncut trench]

but she got so mad that she walked out and then told her friends i was bullying her. i had to remind her that i'm 21 and she's a 47 year old woman getting pissed off over a billion dollar company's app

shit was surreal

[austere ruin]

That’s insane

But I mean I personally think that getting stabbed over a ww2 tank fact is also close to that level insane

Or getting kicked off your apprenticeship because that same person that tried to stab you wanted you gone

[uncut trench]

that is top tier goofy for sure

[vapid smelt]

should have let them stabbed you so you could sue them

[austere ruin]

Like I didn’t do anything that is just discrimination

[austere ruin]

Oh no I said they could

I said be sure to hit a good spot

Because then I would be rich 🙏

[uncut trench]

rent for 6 months!!!

[idle nymph]

tf you mean stabbed you where tf do you work

[patent violet]

in a kitchen

which kinda makes it make a little sense

sadly

[austere ruin]

Yeah

[idle nymph]

i mean still ? tf ?

does bro work at hell kitchen

[patent violet]

kitchens get heated in more than one way

[uncut trench]

ha ha

[austere ruin]

The kitchen is dangerous last one I worked at threw a fryer at my head-

[vapid smelt]

crack den kitchen

[grim belfry]

I don't think I've ever met someone who works in a commercial kitchen with even slightly okay mental health

[patent violet]

Ok now see, were tossing hands after that

[austere ruin]

There was still oil in it and fries that were getting made in it

[austere ruin]

Nah nah I didn’t toss hands I gave him 1 and he went night

[grim belfry]

Incredibly stressful industry

[austere ruin]

Probably because I hit him against the fucking wall

[patent violet]

lol

[austere ruin]

It is

[uncut trench]

dude there's blood on my cheeseburger!

[patent violet]

see this all kinda comes together, and having someone like that in a kitchen ill be honest here.... i couldve seen that coming from a long ways away

[grim belfry]

Extra flavour

[patent violet]

especially if they were mouthing off like that

[austere ruin]

Yeah and the worse part is

I got kicked out not them

[patent violet]

Take a guess why

[austere ruin]

Like I didn’t do shit and somehow got the shitter for it

So I’m sueing

[patent violet]

there you go

[austere ruin]

Political beliefs