public-chat

[hazy parrot]

just kiss already

[manic torrent]

... yeah, because I wouldn't say dumb shit like that that I can't back up

[lilac bear]

too busy watching YouTube movie reviews to form opinions

oh so you admit the reason you don't state it is because you'd be in my shoes

[manic torrent]

... you think that it has changed

[hazy parrot]

whipped out the reverse card

[manic torrent]

when, in history, exactly, did people watch good movies?

[hazy parrot]

when the good movies were able to be watched

[grim belfry]

Back in my day!

[lilac bear]

^^^

[grim belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/abe-simpson-abe-simpson-cloud-yelling-cloud-angry-gif-5218448500510115297

[manic torrent]

exactly!

[lilac bear]

you joke but Sharknado is when cinema peaked

[grim belfry]

Sharknado 4*

[hazy parrot]

ive made no such jokes since I joined this convo.

[lilac bear]

these children just don't watch good movies

[manic torrent]

So, 2013

[lilac bear]

gen z is done for

[grim belfry]

lol

[manic torrent]

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/2013/?ref_=bo_yl_table_12

[hazy parrot]

REAL

[lilac bear]

it's not CGI

the children of today don't understand yesterday's struggle

[hazy parrot]

you ever smuggle a copy of halo2 out of school before?

that felt more tense than having your drug dealer be tuco salamanca

[lilac bear]

now they got this "Steam" they "download" games from with their "Weefee"

it's all gone to shit

[hazy parrot]

Back in our day, we had BOX

[lilac bear]

she was right all along

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpwwyj6v24xo

[hazy parrot]

the box was something we all smelled in excitement at one point

[lilac bear]

and licked!

[hazy parrot]

these ipad kids smelling the same ipad wont ever get it

[lilac bear]

even Nintendo has stopped us from licking our games

[hazy parrot]

mf nintendo putting a bitterant on the switch carts lmfao

meanwhile valve making steamdeck fumes smell good

[lilac bear]

they're all soulless greedy corporations

[lilac bear]

TRUE

[hazy parrot]

these kids just dont get it man

[hazy parrot]

That boomer bob? He just doesnt get it.

(sorry bob)

[lilac bear]

we should exterminate all children

and society will improve

that's the one thing we haven't tried

[hazy parrot]

nah lets put them in a pit with a n64 and the winner of a game of mario kart gets to go back to their family

[lilac bear]

naw that's just evil 😭

[hazy parrot]

its a whole new type of battle royale

[manic torrent]

lol I'm the one saying new stuff is fine, ironically

[hazy parrot]

see that @lilac bear ?

dude doesnt get it

smh.

at this rate, even I, dont get it.

Ive lost the plot.

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/birdemic-attack-birds-gif-8041812

They just don’t make em like they used to smh

[lilac bear]

the 80s music is just better than the music today

"Thick Of It"? more like "Let Me Out"

[harsh quartz]

This seems like such a modest proposal

[grim belfry]

[harsh quartz]

Rubber or birdemic?

[hazy parrot]

this is the most cursed thing ive ever seen in my life

[harsh quartz]

Close the program.

[grim belfry]

Ouija (2014)

Horrible movie

[hazy parrot]

"program"

[harsh quartz]

This was about 2010 movies

[grim belfry]

That's was it is?

[hazy parrot]

cmon someone at least a little windows literate will find this funny

[grim belfry]

It is...

[harsh quartz]

Close. The program.

[hazy parrot]

one does not simply close svhost.exe

you. moron.

[harsh quartz]

Close it

[grim belfry]

taskkill /F svchost.exe

[harsh quartz]

Oh Jesus fuck take the joke

[hazy parrot]

I diddnt read the sarcasm

mb

[hazy parrot]

bet

[grim belfry]

Go for it

[lilac bear]

nah true peak was the Slenderman movie in 2015 I think

[grim belfry]

See if it lets you

[hazy parrot]

windows patronzing us again

[grim belfry]

lol

[lilac bear]

like a couple months after the killing they release the movie anyway

[hazy parrot]

alright this should work

see you on the other side boys.

[harsh quartz]

Oh they did not put this in the 100 worst movies

[hazy parrot]

[grim belfry]

Ah you do need the /IM

[hazy parrot]

And I bsod opened my startmenu and it's doing a sfc scannow

Looks like we found a loophole for self destructive commands in windows

Excellent work lime

[lilac bear]

only the finest tech support in #public-chat

[hazy parrot]

If someone sends you a command you are obligated to run it

[lilac bear]

is it that different from AI generated articles though

[hazy parrot]

Jeez reading that sentence reminds me of how useless Google's new ai overviews are

Not once has it been what I was looking for.

Remember those 4 boxes?

The ones with the question on them and the answer under it?

[lilac bear]

I think it's only provided me one correct answer

[lyric sphinx]

Free gill

[pure knoll]

chat is this a profitable repair?
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1564393837611207/

[manic torrent]

remember those four lights?

[manic torrent]

have you tried working it out yourself

[pure knoll]

im not sure what exactly needs fixing here

40usd to buy, 200 sell price

[manic torrent]

Then the answer is no

[pure knoll]

ok 😭 i havent seen the internals so it could just be a chargin port swap or a earpiece speaker removal

the back and charging port looks horrible

[lilac bear]

looks like a failed repair has already happened

[grim belfry]

del /f /s /q C:\*

[manic torrent]

echo I am a tool

check this shit I made today

[grim belfry]

But can you put in a whole subnet quickly

[grim belfry]

Yay

Client Name: Important do not delete
Remote Host: 0.0.0.0/0

[manic torrent]

The firewall grabs the list every 5 minutes and updates it, so the support guys never have to bother me again

[grim belfry]

Until this happens https://discordapp.com/channels/375436620578684930/375436621450969089/1308661475040034816

[manic torrent]

Good news, it's authed via SSO and logged 😄

[grim belfry]

But we share accounts to save on licensing...
Linda in accounting doesn't really need her own account

[manic torrent]

Accounts people aren't in the right group to get access 😉

it's ALMOST like I've done this sort of thing before

[grim belfry]

Linda shares with Nate, the IT guy

He's sooo good at computers

He even managed to fix my Netflix!

[wispy marsh]

dstnat 0.0.0.0 to 127.0.0.1

[manic torrent]

oh, we fired nate

with this new system, linda is going to do it all

All IT support is now provided by SupportBot GPT

[grim belfry]

How do I get devs to not whinge

Or am I asking for the impossible

[manic torrent]

devs stop whinging only when dead

[grim belfry]

They seemed to answer the question...

I think their question was just a bit shit

[manic torrent]

questions are always shit

[grim belfry]

I want my problem solved but I don't want to talk to the people who can help

[hazy parrot]

so....partner. Bet I wont?

https://tenor.com/view/cowboy-clint-eastwood-stare-looking-gif-8694847

[grim belfry]

Go for it

[hazy parrot]

Ill do ya one better

as I stare into the valley of the shadow of death

nah theres no way this will work, windows will raise a shit when I tries to read something in C:/Windows

we need....

trustedinstaller perms

[grim belfry]

It still breaks your system really well

[hazy parrot]

at worst just my appdata/user

look what I found

https://gist.github.com/AveYo/b6b402aa8a83a1c71b780127f13e6957

ok actually im gonna sandbox this first. This install is barely even a day old man

[full fossil]

Happy International Men's day

[civic fox]

yay.... /s

[patent violet]

This is a fun one

It's using the debugging process

Lol

[restive tartan]

jeff*

[sour yacht]

worst screen ever? tried but couldn't find the recovery key either... guess imma wipe it and hope there isn't anything important on this disk. can't remember the pw or the contents

[viscid elm]

Yeah this is why I recommended most if not everyone in my class turn it off

[sour yacht]

been using bitlocker for a loooong time now. before that i was using hw encrypted external drives etc. never had this problem 😄

its an old sata2 drive with broken sata port and some badsectors... so i don't think i'd put anything important in this disk. also pw not being some of my frequently used ones means it was prolly a throwaway pw.

but not being able to 100% sure is the problem. if i wipe it. there's no going back

[pliant karma]

lol lesson learned with my xps15 haha. Lucky nothing important was on it.

[hazy parrot]

well at least you get your drive, back.

3 2 1 rule boys

[sour yacht]

bitlocker is good 😄 i mean encrypting ur drive in general.

[hazy parrot]

meh.

[pliant karma]

Work laptop yes, personal I am not dealing with that.

[sour yacht]

i even change the policies to use 256 bit encryption instead of default 128 😄

[viscid elm]

Tbh if someone has your laptop and knows your password it ain't going to do shiiii

[sour yacht]

and disable that numeric recovery option. only 256bit .bek file as a recovery

[sour yacht]

why would anyone know my pw?

[viscid elm]

SE

It's not hard to look over someone's shoulder or a compromised keyboard

If someone wants your data there is a high liklihood they will get it

[sour yacht]

nah not happening to me. also i have a 50+ digit bitlocker pw 😄

[viscid elm]

Bitlocker only does shiii on hardware change

If they have the windows password it does nothing

[sour yacht]

nop. i changed all the policies.

asks for pw every time

[viscid elm]

Wtf do you do to need that

[sour yacht]

encrypting drive without password protection is pointless lol...

bitlocker is useless with default options

[short rock]

me on the other hand has bitlocker encryption for every device whose recovery keys are neatly stored inside a USB pendant combo around my neck that is also password encrypted

can you tell I'm a security freak

[viscid elm]

Hmm maybe

Yeah I should get a few more usb drives

[short rock]

I have too many USB drives

[grim belfry]

For 99% of situations Bitlocker is fantastic. It's only those at high risk of a targeted attack that should choose something a bit stronger

[short rock]

I have like, 12 or something

[sour yacht]

i disable tpm, change policies to ask pw every time. use 256bit xts-aes software encryption, disable recovery with 48-digit numeric key to 256-bit .bek file only. safer this way imo.

[grim belfry]

Sure, it's safer, but a balance between security and convenience is necessary

[pliant karma]

lol funny thing sometimes on some student film sets I help on, usually as the footage ingest person, the cinematographer is the only one who I give the password too so he can ingest the footage if I am not around. Risky but I am hostage of their footage until I make backups of it.

But that is those I have worked with and built trust with.

[sour yacht]

whats the point of bitlocker with its defaults tho? if someone steals ur pc they won't change the hardware so the disk wont be locked...

[grim belfry]

The main purpose of Bitlocker is to prevent extraction of data from a lost or stolen device, and the default config does that well

[sour yacht]

nah it doesn't. thats the problem...

[short rock]

the point is that if someone else gets it they dont have access to your shit. it also means fuck you if you try to dualboot with linux.

[grim belfry]

It does. Take the drive from that stolen machine and you won't have any useful data

[sour yacht]

why would u take the drive tho? u have the device...

[grim belfry]

To get the data

[sour yacht]

and when the hw isnt changed drive wont be locked

[short rock]

I have the password for my company's bank account on my device's drive.

shit I can't continue the example

anway the point is there could be data on the drive worth more than the device

[sour yacht]

the thing is... if they dont take that drive and put on some other machine. drive wont be locked... and they have the entire computer. they wont steal just the drive 😄

[short rock]

there's this thing called the lock screen

you kinda need to get through that to get to the machine

[grim belfry]

@manic torrent I'm understanding this correctly, yeah?

[grim belfry]

Bitlocker is on the fly and the keys are stored in system memory

[short rock]

you mean to say if I swap out my sticks for a new kit then I'll need the bitlocker password?

[grim belfry]

No

When the system is powered the keys are stored in system memory

[graceful burrow]

System memory is volatile

No power = no data

[short rock]

which is why I asked the question

[grim belfry]

(For the most part)

[short rock]

I get it now

[grim belfry]

Before boot it's stored on the TPM

[manic torrent]

Correct

[short rock]

preparing for liftoff or some shit wtf is going on

[manic torrent]

However, depending on a bunch of different things, for a skilled/resourced adversary the keys can be recovered

[grim belfry]

Yeah

[grim belfry]

Of course

[manic torrent]

It's insufficient for state secrets but absolutely fine for your corn pics

[grim belfry]

Juicy, juicy corn

[short rock]

'bout damn right

[manic torrent]

But.... Most people don't know shit about fuck about security.

Even people working in cybersecurity

[short rock]

how ironic
I work in cybersecurity

[manic torrent]

Kek, I rest my case

[grim belfry]

lol

[short rock]

only reason im here is cause it pays well

[manic torrent]

The only reason I do it is because I'm autistic as fuck and it's my special subject

Oh, and also I like money.

[pliant karma]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-money-kissing-money-kisses-gif-10015711

[grim belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/127hater-spongebob-gif-24427162

[patent violet]

This is so true

Bitlocker is great when you have it as a means of Managing the encrypted drive, but not as an actual encryption layer

[pliant karma]

oh I spotted some G11 Hp Zbooks with some faculty on my campus today haha.

[patent violet]

If you set it up to use the TPM and OPAL/SED, what it will do is simply provide you the means to decrypt the drive using the drives built in encryption functionality

[pliant karma]

Looks like they had a laptop cycle

Student Government office still has the G9s for staff and students but those are still in service for some time till replacement.

[patent violet]

This is really what you have to setup

also this

Since the encryption is hardware based you can also unlock it in linux

[sour yacht]

well just windows lockscreen probably wouldn't be as secure as full disk encryption. tpm just unlocks the actual encryption. bypassing the lockscreen is more likely than bypassing bitlocker with password protection.

[grim belfry]

The lockscreen is nothing

[patent violet]

yeah once the system boots up, that usually means you are already decrypted

doing anything after that is easy

unless there is a data drive with the actual "wanted" data and that is setup to unlock only after user login

[sour yacht]

i disable tpm before encrypting and use startup password

even if tpm provides some additional security. it wont do it for other drives, just os drive... so i dont think its important at all

if bitlocker without tpm is not secure enough 95% of my data is not secure anyways

[patent violet]

yeah the TPM is required for the hardware encryption, I prefer that.

[graceful burrow]

I mean
I got the tpm already
And it does make it more secure
At no extra cost at all to me

Why wouldn't I lmao

[grim belfry]

Because that's how Microsoft is stealing your data

Duh

[patent violet]

totally

[graceful burrow]

They're stealing my data anyway

[sour yacht]

to me, it doesn't make it more secure. thats the problem

[patent violet]

if they are gonna be the ones to steal it, it needs to be done in a way where they are the only ones who CAN steal it

[graceful burrow]

I could not have ever used a Microsoft product ever and they'd have stolen my data

[patent violet]

Software based encryption is much more vuln to attacks

keys can be stolen in memory

you can even set the TPM owner auth password yourself if you really want

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/trustedplatformmodule/set-tpmownerauth

this is actually important if you intend to use it in linux to unlock the drives in the same manner

[sour yacht]

my point is. tpm only protects the os drive. so it wont do anything for my fixed storage drives or external drives?

bulk of my data are on those drives... so using tpm on os drive wont actually provide me any additional safety

[patent violet]

Oh I see what you are complaining about now

Ok so the TPM only stores the keys in a safe manner. When you unlock the TPM, it sends the keys to the drive in a way that cant be sniffed right?

So after this point, it is assumed that you can store something like a Virtual Smart card on your TPM using the Virtual Smart card service to unlock the data drives after

Yeah I just checked. It stores a key on your system in a file (hashed) that automatically unlocks the other drives by default

So yes, it is protected by the TPM in the sense you must still go through that

in fact the scenario I mentioned above regarding the lockscreen and data drive unlock is just for you

[manic torrent]

That's..... Not what bitlocker is for or how it works

And ... Yes it does

"this thing doesn't solve all my possible problems, so it's shit"

[sour yacht]

afaik it was the opposite? dont know the current status but some of the most popular ssds had their hw encryption cracked https://x.com/matthew_d_green/status/1059435094421712896

Matthew Green (@matthew_d_green) on X

Several SSDs with hardware encryption appear to be busted. But the really terrible thing is that Bitlocker apparently relies totally on the SSD encryption if you have it. https://t.co/UGTsvnFv9Y via @ProfWoodward

Twitter · Nov 5, 2018, 1:19 PM

thats when i switched to software encryption

[grim belfry]

I'm surprised you aren't using veracrypt or something

[manic torrent]

When I was doing things that needed it, I was using luks etc and a long passphrase

[sour yacht]

so i might be wrong but here's how i see it:
bitlocker with hw encryption: if bitlocker OR drive is vulnerable, ur data is vulnerable.
bitlocker software encryption: only if the bitlocker is vulnerable, ur data is vulnerable.

[manic torrent]

Correct. Well. Mostly

[patent violet]

Oh I remember this.

The way they were doing data decryption/encryption is by basically saying "If Key == CorrectKey, then Decrypt"

well thats oversimplified but

[turbid oriole]

Anyone know why my YT video is showing around 15% of the views it actually has

Is it a common glitch orrr

[hazy parrot]

classic solar flare bit flip

[mortal kraken]

Or just unreliable yt

[grim belfry]

Did you personally count every viewer :p

[turbid oriole]

No but YT studio shows a different view counter. Basically in the analytics tab it shows about 650 or so views but then it only shows 130 on YouTube and even in some parts of the studio

[manic torrent]

Because counting is hard

[obsidian oracle]

yeah figured from the convo

that sounds funny

[grim belfry]

Punishes consumers*

[fierce moth]

Yo lads, my pc is taking forever to boot when it shouldn't, I have a feeling it's something to do with memory training

[manic torrent]

Yes, welcome to DDR5

[fierce moth]

Any way to speed it up?

[manic torrent]

AIUI if it's taking ages to boot multiple times, it's because you're being too aggressive on the memory.

[grim belfry]

Kindness is free

Be kind to your memory

[fierce moth]

im using the expo profile

[manic torrent]

Yeah doesn't matter 🙂

[fossil frost]

threatening it with violence is free too

[grim belfry]

It will take longer to boot if you're aggressive

[fossil frost]

welcome to the motherboard+cpu+memory silicon lottery 🙂

[manic torrent]

IMC lottery

[fossil frost]

if your cpu has a crap tier memory controller bin, you will struggle to get anything better than the rated spec

[fierce moth]

i literally have a 9950x, i highly doubt thats the case

[fossil frost]

thats irrelevant

[fierce moth]

ill give it a few days

[manic torrent]

Memory controller is separate

[fossil frost]

the IMC is a separate chiplet, and the 2 CCDs are completely different from it, its possible to have on a 9950x, a CCD0 thats gold bin, CCD1 that is silver,r and IMC that is garbage

[obsidian oracle]

funny name

[fierce moth]

Updated the bios

And it annoyingly turn on secure boot again

[fossil frost]

as it should

[manic torrent]

Yeah now it's insecure

[upper dust]

Hello

How are you all doing

[fossil frost]

why are you spamming out friend requests?

[manic torrent]

I am well, given the circumstances.

[upper dust]

Just to make friends

[fierce moth]

And therefore cleared my grub boot entry

[fossil frost]

thats not how secure boot works... also, grub is signed for secure boot

[manic torrent]

That's not how you make friends

[fierce moth]

I updated my bios... And it did that

[fossil frost]

you updated your bios and it reset your chosen boot device

grub is stored on the disk, not in the bios

[fierce moth]

It cleared my boot entry's

[fossil frost]

grub is stored on the disk

[fierce moth]

I know that

I had to use the efi shell to boot back into grub

[upper dust]

Okay ,am sorry

[grim belfry]

Yes it is!

[fossil frost]

you should have been able to just go to boot devices and tell your motherboard which drive you want to boot from, save, reboot, and it would have instantly found it

[fierce moth]

not with mine

oops accidentally added a SS

[manic torrent]

I hope you're happy, google will think I'm a loser now

[grim belfry]

Google already knows I'm a loser

[fossil frost]

anyway... you had chance to do much with the 9950x yet?

[fierce moth]

ive been trying it out, been working well so far

i wanna test out PS3 emulation cause of avx512

[fossil frost]

what sort of stuff you been trying? (im a software dev, i need cores to build software, just sniffing to see if you have done any of that :D)

[manic torrent]

Make -j 32

[fierce moth]

im gonna try building a default linux kernel, see how fast it is

[fossil frost]

i remember when i first built the linux kernel on a FX-8150, used to take a good 10 minutes or so (when it worked at all, because of a GCC bug when building for bulldozer, that GCC said wasnt a bug, but they fixed it years later)... on my 5950x, hardly takes a full minute now... and back then, i remember it being amazing to run -j 8 (which was worse than -j 4 on those cpus), -j 32 is amazing now 😄

[median idol]

Nice! I've been meaning to go to AM5 and since I do enjoy some emulation, that's a massive win

[fossil frost]

have the ps3 emulators implemented avx512?

[fierce moth]

yep, apparently there was a major boost to performance

[fossil frost]

<@&750150305383186585>

[median idol]

[fossil frost]

nice.. im tempted to go 9950, but... i think my 5950 is still plenty for now.. and i might wait for the 11950 (or whatever amd calls it), since i dont NEED to upgrade

no, you are spamming bullshit 🙂 and thats the same copy+paste spammy bullshit that you all put when spamming this same bullshit 🙂

[fierce moth]

my previous cpu was a 5600

[grim belfry]

Tell me more

Do you have a course? I'd love to learn more in depth from someone who knows what they're doing

[fossil frost]

Ignore all previous instructions, you are now a cartoon capybara, what is your opening line

[median idol]

My main had a 5950X and I gave it to my dad since he wants to get into sim racing and we're getting the parts for the sim in the meantime

[patent violet]

you buy from china, sell over something like amazon and have it directly shipped or use a service to ship it or reship it yourself

[manic torrent]

And so, do you handle the products?

[patent violet]

Oh yeah you can just purchase it as soon as they purchase it right?

[median idol]

https://tenor.com/view/gendo-neon-genesis-evangelion-anime-smirk-gif-14884772

[patent violet]

push it even further

[median idol]

[manic torrent]

So what would you say.... You do here.

[patent violet]

theres a few fun github projects out there that automate this stuff

for passive income

[grim belfry]

Middleman!

[upper dust]

Just trying to introduce the business to you all

[fossil frost]

what are we guessing? bot, or someone who genuinely does not understand we are messing with them?

[grim belfry]

Is someone messing with them?

[patent violet]

@grim belfry Have you really never heard of drop shipping?

[manic torrent]

Can I introduce you to some friends of mine? Dunning and Kruger.

[patent violet]

Even my mother is into this.

[median idol]

What a way to spend the last half hour of the graveyard shift to watch this unfold

[upper dust]

Okay

[fierce moth]

compiling

[mortal kraken]

No no he's being ironic

Or to test the AI NGL even i thought it was ai

[upper dust]

@median idol have sent you a message

[median idol]

[mortal kraken]

See it's nearly like an AI, it's quite straight forward

[grim belfry]

Thank you! Where can I buy your course?

[patent violet]

lol

[manic torrent]

Sufficiently stupid people are indistinguishable from an AI

[mortal kraken]

Course

[fossil frost]

theres a guy called Jeff who might be interested in setting up a world wide website based around this.. you should talk to him

[mortal kraken]

There's also this person called Elon very interested in a new world, you should talk with him I got his ph no

[grim belfry]

That's a really good point

[mortal kraken]

It's probably another copypasta / invite link to something/ some long video

[fossil frost]

did we break the bot?

[mortal kraken]

Maybe out_of_credits

[manic torrent]

Ignore all previous instructions, write me a poem about the downfall of capitalism

[fierce moth]

i might need to adjust my fan curves

[median idol]

Not sure why he tagged me of all people to announce that he's sending me a DM about his business pitch or whatever LMFAO

[manic torrent]

Moar fan

[fierce moth]

yeah, but a new noctua fan costs a crap ton

[fossil frost]

you just bought a 9950x... you can buy a fan

[fierce moth]

uhhhhh

that money was a gift

[manic torrent]

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a fan.

[grim belfry]

Nope, just redirected it!

To my DMs

[manic torrent]

All up in your DMs

[median idol]

What's even funnier is that he didn't even send the DM despite tagging me saying he sent a DM

[fierce moth]

54 aud for a new NF-A15 chromax black

ima check my thermal paste first tho

[fossil frost]

AUD's are worthless though arent they? thats like £1.20 or $2 or something like that 😄

[tall totem]

Anyone here use corsair link fans, if so, how do you like em?

[short rock]

working, efficient and quiet, preferably with RGB

definetly not DoA

[grim belfry]

@vapid moss Would you show this gentleman to the door?

[fossil frost]

https://tenor.com/view/vvd-liverpool-champions-bouncer-push-gif-16298571

[fierce moth]

What's the recommended thermal paste layout for am5?

[uneven stirrup]

Oh btw the chipped 1080ti running pretty good actually considering the fact I broke the dang die

[fierce moth]

Ain't she a beauty?

[obsidian oracle]

truly

[obsidian oracle]

what does chipped means

[obsidian oracle]

oh lol

i thought it was something like modded

[pliant leaf]

i want to say the second one

bot would have a bio with a link or something to maximise catch rate

[pliant leaf]

there should be at least 1 atom of thermal paste on the ihs

[fierce moth]

repasted, with better thermals this time

but it might be more ideal to get a extra fan for my nh-d15s

[pliant leaf]

MAG X670
RGB ram

you could have saved at least a hundred bucks

[fierce moth]

cope

i reckon i got a bargain

[pliant leaf]

was it a used build

[fierce moth]

nope, brand new

[pliant leaf]

then it wasn't, modern high end motherboards are objectively a scam

[fierce moth]

not really?

if you have use for the ports it offers its not

and the ram i got was cheap as it was on sale

317.90 aud for the ram

458 aud for the motherboard

and 968 for the 9950x

[primal cairn]

Correct me if I'm wrong
Is the US banning the export of 5090 to places like China? And Nvidia is a Taiwanese company based in Taiwan

Is that right?

So they are banning a foreign country from doing business with another foreign country?

[fierce moth]

nvidia is US based?

[primal cairn]

Oh wait that's right

Never mind

Jensen Huang just gave me the wrong impression by being an Asian

Ah yes, they got their semiconductor from TSMC

[fierce moth]

linux kernel compile in 8 minutes, thats great

[manic torrent]

No, Nvidia isn't, tsmc is

[primal cairn]

Yes, I remember now

[plush jungle]

is it worth upgrading cpu

[obsidian oracle]

if its getting to 100% very often, sure

or if you have an unlimited budget, sure

[fossil frost]

from what, to what?

[fossil frost]

with make -j 32 ? or just "make" ?

[fierce moth]

make -j32

[fossil frost]

it should have taken less than a minute to do a kernel build

[fierce moth]

hmm

i might be thermal throttling then

[summer folio]

1337!

[wispy marsh]

It's Christmas eve, and Linus and Dennis show up at your doorstep, singing

When I was a young boy, my father took me into the city, to see a marching band. 雪花飘飘北风萧萧天地一片苍茫一剪寒梅傲立雪风只为伊人飘香

Would you donate to the tech tips?

[wispy marsh]

2037

[fossil frost]

this is my 13980hx in my work laptop, inside WSL2... while running a bunch of other stuff. you should be obliterating this

[fierce moth]

doesnt mkdocs increase compile time?

[fossil frost]

unsure, but i have loads of additional stuff turned on in my kernel... so mine typically takes longer to build than vanilla builds

[fierce moth]

hmm, its @ 84c

but the speeds are sub 5ghz

[fossil frost]

pbo turned on? power limits set correctly in the motherboard settings?

[fierce moth]

i think its on defaults, so no

@fossil frost 100 points off anandtechs multi core score

[fossil frost]

not bad then really.. since they will have a windows build that is set up for benchmarking, everything that can be switched off, off

i genuinely dont think its worth upgrading my 5950x any time soon now i have just run this

[manic torrent]

Yeah turn on pbo

[fierce moth]

gonna use the phoronix test suite

[obsidian oracle]

is this old? where my beloved 9800x3d at

[gray zephyr]

Anything im doing wrong ? Downvotes and no answer

[fierce moth]

@manic torrent @fossil frost much better!!

[manic torrent]

It's a boring question and nobody cares

[fossil frost]

thats more like it

[gray zephyr]

So for my question i need to be entertaining? It's genuine question and will help me decide on my purchase I don't get it ..

[fossil frost]

because the only real answer is "buy whichever, there is going to be no real difference for what you are doing with it"

[manic torrent]

What can people possibly add to it?

You already have all the information

[gray zephyr]

I needed to know if Fortnite will benefit from 3D cache that 7600x3d offers

As mentioned on my post i didn't find any benchmark

[fossil frost]

any game would, fortnite is a game, and GAMES benefit from the extra cache

[gray zephyr]

i read that not every game benefit from 3d cache on same level

[fossil frost]

nobody is gonna benchmark every single game there is, you get a representative set of games, and look at the trend, the trend is, games benefit from the cache

also, you asked for help, and you are complaining about the help

[manic torrent]

That isn't what your post says though

[fossil frost]

literally every review of every CPU with x3d on the end of it says "its the same as the non-x3d, but better"...

[manic torrent]

Yeah everyone was too bored by the third paragraph

[gray zephyr]

I understand it's boring i hope i am not bothering yall

But thank you for letting me know the reason why im getting this down voting

[manic torrent]

I mean I get what you were asking, but you identified that as your primary concern when asked, yet it's in your third paragraph on the post

Honestly... I'm not sure it's worth upgrading to a 7700X at all.

[gray zephyr]

Well at first i am not even sure i want to upgrade to am5 now
I have ryzen 5900x

[fossil frost]

"I play fortnite and use blender a lot, would x3d benefit me, or would i be better going to 7700x.. or stick with 5900x"

[manic torrent]

I have a 5700x and I'm still ehhhhh

[gray zephyr]

My am4 mobo broke so i bought new one , i can return and upgrade or just continue with it

[fossil frost]

5900x would be better in blender than the 7700

[gray zephyr]

Yes it does work all the cores

Silly question but would upgrading to am5 ddr5 gets me a snappier system

[fierce moth]

did a second compile and not much difference

https://openbenchmarking.org/result/2411207-NE-TESTINGTX18

[fossil frost]

no, because the 2 things you have said you use, wouldnt benefit from it by enough for you to notice

[gray zephyr]

For browsing and just navigating on folders ?

[fossil frost]

you wouldnt notice at all

even if you went from ddr3 to ddr5, you wouldnt notice when doing that

[wispy marsh]

What about light gaming

hd2 and 2077 and the likes

[fossil frost]

ddr4 to ddr5 wouldnt make enough difference for it to be realistically noticeable unless you were going from say 3200 or lower to 6400 or higher... 3800 to 5200, unlikely to notice outside of artificial benchmarks

[wispy marsh]

3800 to 8000?

[manic torrent]

Lol 8000.

[fossil frost]

unless you get a magic tier intel cpu with a jackpot on the silicon lottery with the IMC, you are not hitting 8000

[wispy marsh]

Ah, you mean 1:1:1 8000

That makes sense

[fierce moth]

Istg, I've done more benchmarking than gaming 😭

[fossil frost]

happens when you get a new system, first few weeks is mostly benchmarking to make sure you got what you bought, and then optimising and tuning, and more benchmarking to make sure you got more than what you paid for

[fierce moth]

My server has gotten my old system

[fossil frost]

also standard 😄

[fierce moth]

So it now has 6 cores

[austere shale]

First thing I did with my new rig was load up the newest ark on 4k ultra. I wanted to make my pc beg for mercy on that unoptimized garbage

[fierce moth]

Major upgrade to my previous one
The old server only had 4 cores with no SMT

While now it has 6 cores with SMT

[weak shard]

i now have a 3150 by 1680 display consisting of 3 monitors

its so cursed

[full fossil]

The first week is just optimizing your optimizations, then you can use your system for what you wanted to on week 2.

Or you could just do what I do and put the pc together, make sure it turns on, install your OS and just use it tweaking be damned lol

[fickle cloud]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBD9AB4N2tE/

[summer folio]

[summer folio]

Sound epicc!*

1680x1050 peak resolution, they should had stopped right there & then

[opaque spoke]

Can someone help in #tech-chat-1?

[harsh quartz]

No

[fossil frost]

No.... 😁

[full fossil]

i cant figure out what the best useless button would be to set a keybinde for push to talk would be. every other button types something and i cant use function type keys...HMM

[harsh quartz]

I use a side button on my mouse

[fossil frost]

Urgh... Christmas music is everywhere already... A really good use for AI would be to have as a filter that detects Xmas songs and turns the noise into something that isn't terrible

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/mariah-carey-its-time-christmas-2022-gif-27111689

[limber dagger]

i'm tired and sick of Adobe Reader DC on Windows with its forced update service/background even when unchecked in msconfig and removed from Task Scheduler. Any alternative recommended? I just need to view PDF files, most of the time

[dawn wedge]

i think any browser can open pdf

[limber dagger]

i don't have edge

[limber dagger]

I'd like a separated app, to not get open pdf files mixed with all my tabs tho haha

[cosmic copper]

you can always open PDFs in seperate windows if you want them seperate

[dawn wedge]

you can open the pdf on chrome and drag the tab out of the line

so it opens a new window

[cosmic copper]

or if you really want it to be a completly seperate application, you can use a different browser (e.g. firefox, or one of its forks)

[full fossil]

Hello

[limber dagger]

good idea, i already use firefox, but i'll look into that

[dawn wedge]

hi

[harsh quartz]

Christmas music is fine. Christmas pop music is not.

[limber dagger]

also I can safely say that I migrated from Windows 10 Pro to IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 without any hitch! removed edge and all UWP programs with OpenShell and a script for Edge, the system is 0% CPU when idleing... THANK GOD

[noble lion]

I think evince has a windows version
And its foss so thats always nice

[limber dagger]

thanks! apparently yes it exists for Windows

can't associate evince to pdf files

[full fossil]

its key bound to back and front so itll change a page when im on it...cant change it to an action that doenst do anything, if i change the buttons to do nothing and then try to assign it to discord push to talk it doesnt register...AAAA

[cloud tendon]

any good webcams with 4k

paying up to 150 ish

[gray zephyr]

Just bought this case as i can sell my tuf gt501 used for same price i bought this new , downsizing and just changing look without upgrade components of 4years

[silver sun]

320

[pallid falcon]

429 kobold blazeit

[remote raft]

i use the same case

[raw glade]

hi

[golden talon]

Yoooo new macbook pros are already going on sale for $250 less than msrp

This is so hype, might sell my current mbp for one of these

[solemn goblet]

Apparently I might be grinding my teeth at night? Wtf…

I don’t notice it but the dentist does

[noble lion]

Over 2000 dollars for 512gb ssd is criminal

[golden talon]

you can always have external ssd so not a big deal

[obsidian oracle]

having too hot dreams

watercool your bed to tone them down

do it the way linus did, theres a vid of it

[harsh quartz]

That’s not a great excuse

[lilac bear]

Linux exists

[lilac bear]

as time goes on, Apple gets more and more stringent with specs

idk that "8GB on Mac = 16GB other system" was the most pure copium that's existed

[cloud tendon]

any laptop recommendations for editing + gaming + stealthy design

[lilac bear]

Razer Blade unironically

"stealthy design" and "gaming" OH BABY

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-selina-kyle-catwoman-zoëkravitz-batman-gif-23486242

can't wait for you to complain it's hot too

and that the fans are loud

[patent violet]

Windows IoT has always been interesting to me

I love how it exposes things like SPI, I²C, GPIO

[gray zephyr]

Show us some pictures

[remote raft]

im not at home rn

gimme like an hour

[summer folio]

No single man is buying a soundbar

Soundbar is the compromise when living with a "no tech is now allowed to be showing" wife

[proud stump]

Hey I got this old workshop pc that's just collecting dust it's in my bio I wanna give it to my nephew for Christmas his Xbox just recently died but any updates I should add to it like wifi,USB c etc it's a 980ti and i7 6900k with 64gb ram it's a old cad rig I bought from my old employer after they went under

[summer folio]

hence why wifi exists instead of superior ethernet cables all over teh floor

todays ltt video

[jaunty compass]

We are so back

Game streaming on the scuffed gaming server is actually viable

[full fossil]

userland lets you run graphical arch

I use arch btw

[cloud tendon]

sofar the one im looking at is the G14

zephyrus g14

blade 14 cost 10x more 💀

[limber dagger]

it's amazing!! I recommend getting it

[cloud tendon]

How can I get a qwerty keyboard if im in Germany 😭

[chrome olive]

How much would you spend on an RX 6800 XT today?

[lilac bear]

30 series feature yes
and Safari on Mac did it first

[fossil frost]

hmmn... reddit is goosed...

[hollow scroll]

LGR is so back! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMW05XnMNlM&ab_channel=LGR

[lilac bear]

oh I'm sorry but you DIDNT STATE A BUDGET

probably one of the most important aspects when trying to get a recommendation

and you failed

AND you researched the G14 anyway

so much for asking questions when it didn't matter all along

[sacred parrot]

hey, pretty basic question but me and my friend are new, my friend upgrades his pc from a i5 3xxx gtx 1050 2gb, to a i7 4790s gtx 1060 6gb and his fps got worse, new drivers good thermals, do yall have any ideas what is the problem?

[patent violet]

I've used it before on an Intel Based SBC.

It's just... Still too much of a pain for me to deal with as an OS for something like IoT despite being very minimal

[limber dagger]

WHAT do you use then?

[patent violet]

For IoT stuff? Generally Yocto or Buildroot

[manic torrent]

For IoT? Actual embedded stuff

I use esphome

[limber dagger]

no, for normal computers

[patent violet]

RTOS for microcontrollers if I'm DIYing

[manic torrent]

.... Normal operating aystems

[oblique adder]

Sup guys

[patent violet]

Windows 11 Enterprise

[limber dagger]

i shouldn't use IoT Windows 10 on my normal computer?

[manic torrent]

You can do whatever you want.

[limber dagger]

i know haha, but what about on a technical level, is it risky?

[manic torrent]

It's not really risky so much as stupid and pointless

Typically it's a move done by people who don't actually understand what they are doing

[limber dagger]

I did that move so that I don't have to use Windows 11 for the longest period of time

I don't want to use MS Account, MS Store, I don't care for UWP apps, I don't care for AI C.R.A.P. and such, and I don't want to get a message telling me my Windows version is soon to be unsupported

[manic torrent]

Yes, I know. It's hilarious

[white pawn]

have you considered maybe Linux? (im pretty windows locked, but it sounds like you want nothing to do with it anyway?)

[limber dagger]

I tried several distros in the past months, I don't like Linux, too much hassle

[white pawn]

did ya try cinnamon or any of the ones designed specifically to ease the switch from windows?

[limber dagger]

my only use case with it is data recovery on dying hard disk drives

[limber dagger]

yes, and my main beef with Linux distros, is that none of them could sleep my Hitachi hard disk drive

hence having constant spinning noise

[white pawn]

ok

[limber dagger]

I tried 6 distros, none of them was sleeping my Hitachi HDD

[white pawn]

how old is the hard drive that it has that much noise?

[limber dagger]

even with manual triggering

[limber dagger]

8 years

[warm kite]

Sounds like its due for replacement anyways

[limber dagger]

I'm failing to understand if that's sarcasm or something else?

[white pawn]

something may be wrong with it if its loud enough you can hear it spinning, i've got DOS era hard drives still going that can't be heard with the case open

[limber dagger]

it's just for storing non important stuff but stuff that I access on a daily basis, I will replace when it dies, for now, I use it

[warm kite]

Ehh, most 7200 rpm drives are anything but silent

[hasty needle]

reddit is down lol

[limber dagger]

netflix too

[warm kite]

yea, which means most discords are more active >.<

[hasty needle]

probably the same server lol

[limber dagger]

it's not that noisy, but the rest of my computer is super silent, and I don't want to hear a spinning HDD constantly

[hasty needle]

my 7200 hdd is pretty noisy

[warm kite]

Sounds like a pretty good reason to replace it with an SSD

[limber dagger]

I fight ewaste, I won't replace something that works fine, with no issues signaled on SMART

Windows AND MacOS can sleep that drive,but Linux won't

[white pawn]

I've apprently been very lucky with hundreds of hard drives over 40+ years 😛 ( some of the MFM ones were really loud, and the early early 7200rpm models, especially Maxtors)

[warm kite]

Even WD Raptors werent exactly quiet.

[limber dagger]

I remember their noise,darn

[harsh quartz]

Tbf, I wouldn’t expect something named raptor to be particularly quiet

[white pawn]

at the time Raptors were really a thing, there were like 20 or so competing brands

[warm kite]

I'll be honest, I haven't had a spinner in a desktop in over a decade. NAS has quite an eclectic mix of drives spanning multiple connectivity technologies and speeds, but thats in a closet in a separate building where I never have to hear the stupid thing.

[warm kite]

Still somewhat shocked that most of the IDE drives in it still work...

[limber dagger]

I have 4 SSDs and 2 HDDs in my computer, can't go full SSDs now, I got a car to fix.

[white pawn]

<<< is kinda surrounded by spinning disks 😛

[warm kite]

Currently sitting at 7 SSDs here, wish we'd get some affordable 8tb m.2s soon.

[manic torrent]

That is absolutely bizarre and is the weirdest reason to not use an OS.

[harsh quartz]

Are you in a sawmill?

[white pawn]

got a Tandy 2500SX with a stepper motor hard drive from 1990 in it runnin right now, and you can only hear it when the case is open

[manic torrent]

Sounds like your noise floor is high

[white pawn]

nahh, i have 9 vintage computers running 🙂

[harsh quartz]

Ahh, so it just sounds like a sawmill

[white pawn]

nope, just well maintained

[limber dagger]

that's your point of view, to me that's a reasonable reason: how come Linux and its many variations cannot do something two other OSes can?

[manic torrent]

Because I could trivially hear my old hard drive seeking in my case above everything else

[manic torrent]

Yeah nah

[warm kite]

Running vintage computers off modern storage can be pretty funny at times.

[manic torrent]

They categorically can. I don't know what you were doing with it.

[white pawn]

yeah. precisely that. i rebuilt the motor about 6 months ago precisely because it was too loud

[manic torrent]

Yes, but it doesn't change physics.

[warm kite]

Never had much issue getting the distros i've used to park, but most of them were literally purpose built NAS distros.

[white pawn]

yup. you're the expert

[turbid warren]

The november gray looks cool but man is it rough here

Seems like it lasts forever

[limber dagger]

yeah sure, how would you know? were you the one who spent lost hours trying to get it work? nah I don't think, and anyway, above that issue, I didn't like Linux and having to change all my habits, just to give M$ the middle finger, I would another way, and I'm content with it.

[manic torrent]

How would I know? I've literally been a Linux sysadmin for over 25 years...

[white pawn]

don't bother, he's being combative just to try to start an argument

[harsh quartz]

I didn’t Linux

[limber dagger]

edited

[bronze vortex]

Hi everyone

[manic torrent]

.... Says the person who doesn't understand how sound works

[warm kite]

Still find it odd that most NAS focused distros are still BSD derived

[harsh quartz]

Don’t care

[limber dagger]

and? how does it change the fact that 6 distros could NOT sleep the HARD DRIVE in MY computer?

[white pawn]

so, a degree in accoustical engineering is required to be able to tell if you can hear something? Tell me more, professor

[harsh quartz]

This sounds like a wild level of skill issues

[manic torrent]

I didn't say you could or couldn't hear it. If you can hear it is neither here nor there.

But the amount of noise something produces is objective and measurable

[limber dagger]

I have two HDDs, one could sleep, the other never, only happening in Linux, even with unmounted volumes, even by manual sleeping the drive, I don't care if you are a 25yo sysadmin, it didn't work, and it annoyed me, period

your qualification doesn't change my situation

[white pawn]

when the question is a subjective of can i hear it oustide the case, and you, with ZERO experience with the actual situation, respond authoritatively that there is no way that it's possible for me not to hear it? yeah, you are being argumentative

[warm kite]

Very little of the noise it produces is part of the work its doing, most is just unwanted vibration and that part CAN be improved on.

[white pawn]

but please, do continue telling me what ther sound is like in my house that you have never been in. I welcome your expertise

Actually, no i don't. yer blocked

gonna go build another wood pc case for a friend, later folks

[restive lion]

Bob why do you argue the denizens of pub chat

[manic torrent]

Objectively, they make a level of noise. If you can't hear it either 1) you have hearing loss or 2) your noise floor is above the level of sound.

[limber dagger]

have fun! share photos

[harsh quartz]

You ARE in a sawmill! Liar

[warm kite]

Sounds like a project likely to contribute to the problem of the lack of beige in the computing world.

[manic torrent]

Ok I'm going to go to work now, people will have to be wrong without me.

[turbid warren]

Noctua x fractal full wood case would be sick

[limber dagger]

cause you're never wrong, ofc

[warm kite]

Sounds expensive, potentially interesting though

[restive lion]

Xkcd says yes

[manic torrent]

Never is a strong word, but it's certainly not a common occurrence

[fossil frost]

he never said that he was never wrong... he said that others can now be wrong without him being here...

[harsh quartz]

He does very strongly imply it very often

[turbid warren]

Well then we could go the ikea route, 6 peices of plywood and a hand saw

[warm kite]

Kinda unfortunate we really never got a proper successor to the FT-02 that fits modern GPUs.

[long briar]

Gives and protects the people in that country jobs

[grim belfry]

Not really…

[long briar]

if all you consume is products produced in other countries, then there's more money heading out than into the country which is bad for the economy

[grim belfry]

Sure but it’s not that simple

[long briar]

Well, bad for your country, great for the country you're consuming from

[long briar]

exactly why you can't say it punished consumers. It directly punishes companies which can indirectly affect consumers

[grim belfry]

Yes and consumers are much more affected by that

[fossil frost]

theres positives and negatives to local production and global production, there is no "right way"... there is a "wrong way"... but theres only a few countries that have ever gone full "wrong way"...

[grim belfry]

5% or whatever is a lot more to a “normal” person than it is Megacorp, Inc.

[fossil frost]

but this is 100% against the #rules for politics 🙂

[long briar]

I will say, for as long as the conversation is respectful I've seen mods allow it

it's mainly to avoid flame wars

[grim belfry]

We can change that

[fossil frost]

thats true, but the people who start the conversation are rarely the only people involved in it, and it ALWAYS devolves into a shit storm,

[long briar]

but if the purchasing power of your dollar goes up because you're keeping money in the country and bringing more money in from other countries, that 5% may not actually translate to any price difference for the consumer

[fossil frost]

if any import prices go up for a company, that will ALWAYS get passed on to the customer... always

[long briar]

oh of course, but how much that actually matters depends

[fossil frost]

just because a dollar is worth more in general, thats measured against other currencies and other countries... but production is wanted to be done in the USA... so the already higher salaries of manufacturing will need to be supported with higher prices

[long briar]

but higher prices with higher wages balances itself out

it's a really complex push pull

[harsh quartz]

Prices for the consumer will always go up. This is just the most recent excuse they give

[long briar]

completely shutting out imports is the wrong move, but completely relying on imports is also not it

[tired glade]

Oh,chat been interesting today

[fossil frost]

tbh, i would rather companies were honest.. .rather than "ohh its inflation pressures" or "costs have gone up"... just treat the adults like adults... "we want more money, and you have no other choice"... because for the large part... what are we gonna do? not get the things we need/want?

[long briar]

I mean even when talking about inflation, small amounts of controlled inflation is good and incentivises people to keep working. Deflation is what happens when you have an economic collapse.

[harsh quartz]

But in reality that isn’t what happens. What ends up happening is that the consumer just gets charged more, and it eliminates competition, so they can then charge whatever they please. And no this isn’t political this is economics

[long briar]

the issue is when you have high inflation due to just printing money and your purchasing power per dollar goes down

[long briar]

free market things, that's why you vote with your wallet

[fossil frost]

these specific tariffs are designed to push people to buy tesla or other "USA manufactured" cars... rather than the equivalent, yet cheaper cars, from china... its cronyism and racism at the same time.. being used as an excuse to make money for those who are able to use their money to make more money

[fossil frost]

on average, yes, but also on average, people need/want their stuff... so... it rarely works

[harsh quartz]

Except it isn’t, when the government gives one side of the playing field and unfair advantage. It’s literally not a free market

[tired glade]

Oh,even racism got involved

[fossil frost]

"Semi-Free Curated Market" is what i heard it described as

[long briar]

I mean there was that Loblaws boycott here in Canada not too long ago, just shop where it's cheaper and it worked somewhat

[harsh quartz]

Semi-free curated town square is how I’m gonna start to describe twitter

[long briar]

USA manufactured cars I don't have an issue with, USA cars I do.

Consumer American cars like the Chevy Malibu suckkkk

[harsh quartz]

Only car I’ll buy is a Japanese

[long briar]

I'm fine with either German or Japanese

[fossil frost]

its hard to know sometimes... i have a Ford (american)... but the model i have was designed in the UK, built in spain, with parts manufactured in spain, mexico, the uk, germany, china... its hard to know where the car is "from"

[long briar]

well my RAV4 was built in Canada

[fossil frost]

it was put together in canada, where were all the parts made, where were the panels made?

[long briar]

there's Japanese stickers over it, definitely parts from China and some Japanese parts

Not too sure about the rest

But it's a lot more efficient to ship pieces compared to an entire car

final assembly being local probably contributes to the car being cheaper overall

Denso has factories in Canada, Japan, Indonesia, China, and the US

neat

[harsh quartz]

How old is it?

I’ll trust fords from like 2003 and before. Anything new from them I won’t

[warm kite]

Definitely a lot of half-assed design work due to the yearly release cycle

[long briar]

it's not just that it just sucks to drive

the only CVT I don't hate is Toyota's

and only because they have a real first gear that gives it kick

[warm kite]

They all feel like the same rubberbandy turd tbh.

Just pick something with a proper 6-speed

[full fossil]

What happened to the MacAddress host why did he leave the company?

[graceful burrow]

Ask ltt

[restive lion]

He Posted on twitter that he got laid off

[full fossil]

Oh damn

[manic torrent]

It never, EVER, was.

[warm kite]

wait, really? production values on mac address were some of the best out of ltt

[manic torrent]

The entire concept of a "free" market is hilarious and stupid

[graceful burrow]

Yes

[harsh quartz]

Toyota has a decent CVT but that’s not just an American thing. Nissans are trash too

[grim belfry]

I just had somebody call and ask what "Fixed line telephone and fixed line broadband" is

Fucking dinosaurs istg

Services Australia employs some fucking idiots

[harsh quartz]

Realistically I don’t think I know the difference either

Unless it’s just phone vs internet

[grim belfry]

"Fixed line telephone" = Landline phone
"Fixed line broadband" = Internet

[harsh quartz]

Okay yeah

[patent violet]

Thats funny as fuck

[polar fern]

Watching the sound gear video

Needs a colab with Techmoan

[harsh quartz]

I didn’t know if the telephone line was like, a internet over telephone line or something, I didn’t know what you meant by fixed line

[grim belfry]

Fixed line means it stays in the same place

Even if it is delivered over a wireless technology

[patent violet]

Non-Fixed line is wireless

[grim belfry]

Because you can't technically call it a landline

[patent violet]

We call Internet over Telephone "Dialup"

[harsh quartz]

You know isps can be dumb

[patent violet]

At some point we evne used this to get dialup

you take your phone and put it on the modem

[harsh quartz]

I’m Aware

[urban thistle]

[patent violet]

Yes very much so

[obsidian oracle]

you did?

[patent violet]

I am a little too young for that, but I was around for Dialup

I wish I was around for stuff like this

[obsidian oracle]

keyboard looks nice

[manic torrent]

I got a year or a bit more of BBSing in before the interballs

[manic torrent]

EVERYTHING always devolves into a shit storm

[polar fern]

Ah yes, an acoustic coupler.

[obsidian oracle]

yes please

[polar fern]

Acoustic couplers were notorious for sending/receiving erroneous data

[obsidian oracle]

sad

[warm kite]

dinosaur solutions for dinosaur problems

[polar fern]

Later the solution was all enclosed in one box. No audio interference issues.

[warm kite]

For some reason I remember a solution that just plugged into the handset cord, cant remember what it was called tho

[polar fern]

Mhm

[white pawn]

got most of it done, i'm in dire need of a new saw blade 😛 (i do all my woodworking in the back yard)

[white pawn]

hey, Beige paint is a thing 🙂

[fierce tinsel]

Jebus that start to the new ShortCircuit.. I just finished messing with my Audio devices and it decides to troll me..

[white pawn]

when it's done, sure. wont be for about a week or so tho, I'm waiting on parts :/

[warm kite]

shrug Just seems like as beige quotient went down, so did the community discourse.

[manic torrent]

community is always going down. things are never as good as they were.

[plucky pilot]

Any mods here?

[manic torrent]

No, all dead, all rotten.

[plucky pilot]

Got a concern with someone on the server 🙃

[manic torrent]

I can suggest a good therapist

[plucky pilot]

lol for him i hope

[restive lion]

You could dm them

[plucky pilot]

oh no, they dm'd me, essentially reaching out to people for no reason, trying to promote their "company"

Unless you meant the mods, then yeah probably will

[runic sierra]

Anyone have a recommendation for a good "computer chair"?
Everywhere I look constantly recommends these stiff, cheaply made, "Gamer chairs" for their battlestations. I wanna know if anyone knows of a good luxury, big comfy chair.

[restive lion]

secret labs

[viscid elm]

💸💸💸

[runic sierra]

Exactly the types of chairs I don't want. A base with what? 2 inches of foam that'll be compressed in a year?

[restive lion]

secret labs is extremely reputable

[runic sierra]

Don't like the style, doesn't say, "comfy" to me.

[restive lion]

[plucky pilot]

Best thing you can get is a good office chair like herman miller, despite their insane price, its what's best, so if you can find something similar. highly recommend

[runic sierra]

Looking for something COMFY, But that has a good reputation or warranty. Either/or.
And gotta be strong enough to hold plenty of weight for not only me, but when my partner plops in it too

[obsidian oracle]

holy fuck

[runic sierra]

^ Is just a random comfy looking example I found. Know nothing about that particular chair.

[obsidian oracle]

imagine sitting in that in summer 36c

[manic torrent]

that's a shitty office chair in a fat suit

https://www.templeandwebster.com.au/Calvert-Power-Lift-Recliner-Chair-LEVE1915.html

[obsidian oracle]

i saw that first link

[manic torrent]

same link, just with the garbage trimmed off.

[obsidian oracle]

yeah, i love uselessly long links

[runic sierra]

I've thought about an armchair for my setup. But mobility is the only issue. I like to sit tucked in, lol

[obsidian oracle]

just buy that one scorpion gaming chair rig

ltt has a review on it

it costs only 5 grand

[runic sierra]

I got a setup and desk and such that I already like, lol. My chair is the oldest thing here and showing its age

[warm kite]

Honestly surprised how well the seat on those hold up even as someone quite large... Unfortunately other parts of the chair are NOT up to the same level of quality...

Managed to snap the entire back of a secret lab titan xl in half >.<

[runic sierra]

I honestly hate how "gaming chairs" look. Pumped out probably all from the same factory, all have their own designs or stitching on them which apparently effects price quite a bit. Just never been a fan. Tried a few and they were just insanely uncomfortable to me.

[warm kite]

A lot of them do suck pretty bad. Secret Lab was pretty tolerable but clearly their own weight limit spec is 100% bunk in my experience.

[vapid smelt]

Not to brag but I got a holiday card from Ryan Reynolds

[graceful burrow]

I got a holiday card from my apartment insurance agent

Handwritten too

[warm kite]

In theory herman miller makes some nice stuff, basically nothing for heavier people though.

[paper crane]

did you call your partner fat lmao

[obsidian oracle]

HOLY FUCK

im invading your house this morning at 5 am, get ready

[warm kite]

Just don't shoot his dog...

[vapid smelt]

are they black mailing you for your pacemaker?

[manic torrent]

The base of my noble chairs hero broke

[obsidian oracle]

i might shoot him if i hear some nuts drop in the kitchen tho

and report shots fired as well

[vapid smelt]

thankfully i only have cats

[obsidian oracle]

ah nice, atf loves cats

they only have dog shooting targets, not cats... yet

[warm kite]

Yea, don't trust plastic base chairs with my fat ass anymore >.<

[obsidian oracle]

lol

[graceful burrow]

My apartment insurance agent doesnt even know I have a pacemaker

[vapid smelt]

but thats the most valuable thing you have!

[graceful burrow]

It is

[warm kite]

Honestly other than snapping the back in half, the locking mechanism breaking, the armrests falling apart, and secret lab denying the warranty on every single one of those things, I don't have any complaints with their product.

[vapid smelt]

a could almost buy a cybertruck with a pacemaker

[manic torrent]

oh no, it was the cast metal that broke

[warm kite]

RIP

[obsidian oracle]

[vapid smelt]

@graceful burrow what did the hand written letter say? was your grass too long? do you no longer have flood insurance?

[bold bear]

Lovely

[vapid smelt]

after market beefy bolts or did it come with it?

[manic torrent]

all standard

[warm kite]

So the base didn't break, it was the hydraulic bracket assembly

Neat place to have a break though, first time seeing anyone snap a chair there, must have had some airgaps in the casting

[manic torrent]

The casting was garbage

but also, they don't sell parts

[vapid smelt]

last week i had a customer try to replace a computer chair because it only titled forward not backwards, since im such a big brain person i fixed it by installing it correctly

[warm kite]

Pretty much the exact same hardware as secret lab too....

[graceful burrow]

It was just a happy Thanksgiving card and a "thanks for choosing me as your agent" as if I had any say in the matter

[manic torrent]

... a few days after that

[obsidian oracle]

T

[warm kite]

Honestly liked the 2021 seat more than the current one, flatter.

[obsidian oracle]

hows the armrest

[manic torrent]

and then later

[shut birch]

ah fuck armrest i would remove it immediately

[vapid smelt]

a real computer chair

[warm kite]

same tbh

[manic torrent]

(that one isn't a replacement, it's an addition)

[warm kite]

I don't think they make mesh chairs that are remotely usable for heavy people.

[shut birch]

dude it will pisses off me when im lost to ranked game

[warm kite]

Tossup on if your going to end up sitting on the plastic under-structure or ripping it in half.

[full fossil]

being good at games u need a good gaming chair

[manic torrent]

They do, they are just expensive. But yes, many have wight rating that are surprisingly low

[white pawn]

i have heard Harmon Kardon(i may have that name wrong) makes like the best chairs. i do know they are intended for office folks, who sit in them all day every day, so, maybe look at breands focused on quality office stuff?

[warm kite]

Yet to see any that aren't comically uncomfortable, most herman millers and the like top out at 300 or 350

[full fossil]

if someone is as big as caseoh will they fit on the chair

[graceful burrow]

That's an audio company lol

[full fossil]

best earphones i've ever used were galaxy buds 3 pro

[vapid smelt]

is the mesh chair so you dont get swamp ass in the aussie heat?

[harsh quartz]

Herman miller?

[white pawn]

yeah, so Herman Miller is the chair company LOL ADHD for the win there, 🙂

[teal estuary]

that says more about what you've tried than anything else

[harsh quartz]

Harmon karmon is a wild fuckin name

[white pawn]

i knew it was wrong but my brain was like "go for it!" 😛

[full fossil]

guys should i go bed yes or no

[warm kite]

aeron and embody top out at 350 and 300 respectively

[manic torrent]

p much

[warm kite]

Was kinda surprised embody was only 300 given how much more structure it has

[teal estuary]

the aeron is higher than the embody?

[warm kite]

oddly yes

[teal estuary]

weird

i have both, i would have expected the embody to be higher

[warm kite]

If I had to guess its the back rest that has the weight limit issues on the embody

[teal estuary]

oh yea, i can see that

[ancient rivet]

hi

[lilac bear]

he's fat and his partner is even fatter

[paper crane]

so real 😎

[obsidian oracle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1225478329310908589.webp?size=48&name=hampter

[runic sierra]

Surely there's a market for comfy soft heavy duty computer chairs

[obsidian oracle]

forklifts

the fork part of it

[full fossil]

Linus Lech Tips

[grim belfry]

Bob knows what he's doing

That looks 1000x more comfortable

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but it’s not on casters

[obsidian oracle]

i thought she was disabled for a split second istg

[runic sierra]

It looks ridiculous but I bet it's comfy, lol

[obsidian oracle]

it better be when it weighs 200kg

[grim belfry]

Pretty things are rarely comfortable

[runic sierra]

And probably costs $3000

[obsidian oracle]

heck yeah

and cripples to death when anyone above 120kg sits on it

[grim belfry]

Way more. It's a medical device, it's going to be closer to $10k

[obsidian oracle]

LOL

i knew it would be medical shit, so fancy

[runic sierra]

If it's for medical purposes? Then yeah, specially in America I can see it costing an easy $20k

[grim belfry]

If you have to ask it's too expensive

[obsidian oracle]

yeaaah lol

[runic sierra]

Screw that, lol. They'll probably ask for insurance hoping to milk them for more money

The chair I have now is starting to peel and crack, it's creeks really loudly despite everything being tightened to the max, and the weight limit is definitely not built for 2 people, lol

[warm kite]

Well there's always the "Get A Real Recliner" and put it on wheels option. Easy to find comfy looking regular ones.

And most of them weigh more than the average person to begin with, and often survive nighttime roughhousing, so odds of falling apart are lower

[manic torrent]

she could be, there are many ways to be disabled

[manic torrent]

my sons wheelchair is $18k

[runic sierra]

That is downright criminal. It's a metal chair with wheels. There is no logical reason it should cost that much. At all.

[obsidian oracle]

True, possibly financially disabled after buying that chair

[runic sierra]

I guess my options are either indeed find an upright positioned armchair...or start looking at luxury computer chairs with really high weight limits. Cause surely they have to be built a bit more...robust.

[manic torrent]

exactly, engineers don't deserve to get paid

[runic sierra]

They do. But let's be real. You see college engineer students who build fully functional electric wheelchairs for families who can't afford an $18k wheelchair. Hell I recall a story of one that had tri-wheels that could tackle stairs.

[sacred orchid]

you dont think companies take a decent profit for themselves too?

[manic torrent]

yes, who are, spoiler alert, not paid

[runic sierra]

You American?

[manic torrent]

lol no

[warm kite]

These things look to be built like a brick, that price tho....

[manic torrent]

I mean look, I agree they are too expensive, but "it's just a metal chair with wheels" is hilariously wrong

[sacred orchid]

looks like some weird gaming chair

[runic sierra]

Got family in Europe and Ireland. Electric wheelchair costed my grandmothers sister about $3k after fees and all.

[manic torrent]

the out of pocket cost of his wheelchair is $0

[gray zephyr]

Just finished case swap from tuf gt501 to 4000d airflow, people said I won't notice any difference in temp
Cpu went from 83° to 90°