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What’s the best way to connect these wires? I’m soldering but I don’t know how to have them connected while soldering
hi
hi
I usually twist but these are really small
Hard to get them to sit
Ok
That should be good
I don’t have heat shrink so I’ll use electrical tape
Soldered
It works!!!
I'm really annoyed at the fact that there aren't any hdr image viewers on android
i asked an AI about DDR5 speeds xD, what do u guys think?
It's not even worth reading
how come haha
Aldo
I got the led strips installed
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Happens f. E. When the wire just doesn't like being tinned. Could try scraping it off or using crimp/screw/spring connectors.
The time to buy wuhahahaha
hello ltt public chat
evening everybody!
i see next LTT racing rig coming video script incoming 
https://fxtwitter.com/pakuri_sine/status/1819303831043559697
jake gonna fly
intel needs to get the message somehow and thats how they got it
Yo should I close GeForce now if it’s stuck
I’ve never seen this warning before 
hi
quick question to android users, should i use buttons or gestures?
this may sound stupid but i'm trying to make my phone look a bit timeless
That's entirely user preference. I personally loathe user interfaces where the user is expected to mentally remember a plethora of different gestures that have zero standard between app developers, so I enable software buttons on my phones. If there were consistent rules developers had to follow, I might do gestures.
I agree with kirashi
fair enough, i have been using gestures for like a year but when i wanted to switch back on my recently acquired phone, i wanted to try the buttons because they looked a bit better. but i noticed that they were enourmous and made it look disproportionate to the notifs bar. so i switched it back to gestures without the indicator for more estate
but idk which one would make my phone look modern for a while
I've been using gestures since android 10 and don't really have much complaints anymore. I do prefer 3 button on large tablets, though.
i used gestures
fair enough
i like gestures when they avalible
i think i'll keep using gestures considering it makes my phone look a bit more minimal
gives more space
Are there still slots open for the ECC squad?
I'm in a riot
true
plus i'm more used to it, guess i'll be using gestures
I miss my physical home button 😦
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I'd go for gesture, once you get used to it, it's more efficient to use your phone
Hey props to whomever it was (I think it was Aldonist? Idk one of the regulars lol) who suggested I look on reseller websites for good deals on consoles. Takes a bit of hustle to find legit deals that would work for me but I don’t mind that for saving hundreds of dollars
Also I agree it is probably one of the easier ways to upgrade my gaming hardware on the cheep.
lol I specifically thought to not ping you but you still found it lol
“Ahh I don’t want to annoy them with a random post lol”
Also it was technically Mac I guess but you were also there
(Looked it up because it was bothering me)
true, more screen real estate also
I also miss buttons
wait a sec
@uncut torrent that reminds me of the cheese
It is named after the cheese lol
One of my favorites
(profile pic unrelated)
What is actual going on with windows laptops?
The hype for arm seemed fizzle out
And why is everything catching on fire all of a sudden?
always been a pile of shit
Seriously I was just thinking that windows laptop might start looking appealing but nope they still are just tower PCs that are in a weird case with a built in UPS
Yeah but feels like it’s gotten worse these past few years with little attempt to improve.
Windows laptops?
Also, and imagine this is a specific problem for my own hardware. The sleep function is Compleatly broken
And hibernation isn’t much better
Good* fingerprint scanners. Underscreen ones just don’t do the same
Mine works every time lol
^at least droid users have the option
Broken sleep from windows & borked bios’s from manufacturers, together fuck it up
just realised that i have been overthinking about whether i should use buttons or gestures. i feel stupid
i only use disktops wghen i need a laptop i buy chrome books windows should only wor on desktops in my view
I have just as much trouble using the under screen fingerprint sensor as I did the dedicated fingerprint scanner on my old phone
Which is not much trouble lol
My problem would be that it would try to read any touch on the screen as a finger. The old home button wouldn’t just sit there and constantly scan in my experience. I got locked out of my Samsung more than once from it :p
Ok so maybe not that unusual makes me feel less incompetent
Sounds like a Samsung issue
No windows sleep is fucked. Hibernate is worse.
It’s definitely a Samsung issue. But I also just miss my button.
the problmem with em
For me hibernate actual somewhat works. I need to let it idle for a bit to fully “wake up” but it eventually gets there. Sleep would never be the same after trying to wake up and would need to restart to actual use properly.
But I can see that this is something where “your results may very” comes into effect
Makes me miss my surfacebook. Might not have been as powerful as the gaming laptop but it didn’t have these issues
(It just have other, stranger issues lmao
i disabled sleep and hibertnate on all my windows devices
i only let my linux and chromebooks do that thay acctuly wake up after sleep
@full fossil yeah I’m nearly 95% the next windows device I get will either be a desktop or a laptop so unportable it might as well be.
Huh I guess unportable isn’t a word? Or my phone hates it
50/50
not all words need to br reconised
Also did this or attempted to
You technically said Linux twice

windows laptops are exactly as describes desktops with inbult ups id recoment a chromebook or macbook for a laptop
Anyways yeah I think the goal is to get a good desktop and then remote in as needed
thats what i do powerfull stuff stays at home remote in
Yeah picked up an m1 2020 mbpro last semester for a good deal
Such a game changer and it’s not even the “current” gen or whatever
i will be buying a macbook and a chromebook for my laptops when i can afford to im just bilding out my home netwrk atm
i never buy as soon as comes out i wait a few years the issues are known at that pouint
But the best part is actually being able to charge on usb c alone. Can’t do that with most gaming laptops
good to buy what want sometimes as if wasnt price bound
20 mins at most and then its pluged in again
it works on some devices dont on most iv seen
Yeah that’s the annoying bit you just gotta to fiddle with it
Witch honestly is true for a lot of stuff and windows
….
I just realized
I can put Linux on this
Yeah
That small detail
Maybe wait a bit then lol
i buy reconfigerd stuff so i dont gotta fiddle with it imma let dell do that for me
I understand that vibe @full fossil
dell is paid to fuck around with pcs imma let them do it
Dell is pretty decent, we use them at work.
everying is a webpage or disgised webpage
i only buy dell pcs expenisive but they know what they doing
After messing around with other brands I’m inclined to agree
13y old optiplex still going stong iv used a 6y old hp and it was on its last legs this has got 4-5y left before it can only be used for pihole
That’s what I have lol
good for cheap bad for quality
Tuf book or whatever
Aka budget ROG gaming
Yeah I’ve not even attempted to try to contact them about my sleep issues
i dont buy gaming stuff exept for my mics and speakers i do like some colour in my set up that looks like it was taken from an office
I’m gonna edge to Skibidi rizzlord tonight as I mog on dem betas while looksmaxxing
I have aura 5000
I’ve enjoyed acer monitors though
i buy whats cheap im only botherd about the pc being usable not how good the image is
Ahhh I do editing and stuff so kinda need a good screen
pc is just a tool to get some light tasks done to me
Damn what a sigma edgelord mogging on the server
My legion is definitely fucked. Mostly cause I can’t access the power settings in the bios to change the fucked up sleep
Those are defiantly words yeah
i remote into a newer dell and edit on that got the power needed fot that
Ahh that was almost the laptop I got too lol
Yeah fair fair. Tbh I can do my of my the photo editing stuff on the MacBook anyways lol
my laptops are for remoting in and browerser based stuff
Tell you what not fun is having two OS shortcuts styles. Probably going to make one like the other at some point not sure witch
mac has 2?
No I mean like I have Mac and windows style and they mess me up
I think I'm one of the few who wants to go for a laptop after a desktop lol
My desktop should last a while (even tho my mobo died on me) but I really miss the portability
laptops the portable remote in tool for desktops i think
That’s the thing @uncut torrent I’m going to try to make mine somewhat portable
Well yeah that's how I use my work laptop, we RDC into a workhorse desktop
You'll do a sffpc?
Exactly like console sized
best way to get pros of both
If not smaller🤪
If you have good internet
i have 2mb/2mb but its stable
Nice
high ping but its stable
In the rural area of US just starting to get fiber op
Yeah this, connection issues did happen and we couldn't work
Great laptop. Sleep is the only issue I have with it
Sleep/bios
Gotcha, good luck tho because cable management is quite difficult (or maybe I just suck at that
)
Yeah lag during game, annoying, lag during work? Momentum killer
Oh I know it’s going to be hard lol might shell out for Origin Pc or the likes to build most of it form lololol
Will see
i use a 4g hotspot to get internet then i have 2 pi holes as dhcp servers 2 ip ranges on the network 2 wifis are separate devices as well + main router
6 devices is hard to fix whn go wrong but great when works
I also had this crazy idea of building a PC inside like an old steamer Trunk with all peripherals and just lug that around lol
Sort of anti sff lol
Sounds like a good system😎👍
i think thwy could handle 2gb sppeds ( besides the 4g router) before they start to get loaded at all
they sit and do nothing at all 99.99 percent the time only do stuff when had powercut and all devices need to get coneted agin
i got it from ltts server set up i kinda copied it
Well I guess my idea isn’t too crazy someone else has already done it and made a video too
learn from the mistakes they made and do it better
i lost data years ago when i was first trying to learn it skills only reason i found ltt
well improve on them
Oh well happy to have you here bud
my nas is likw 0.01% of there storage this point
i will get to a few tb in a few years
Ltt is a good resource for this kind of stuff yeah
i wanted to go into IT missed the college dates for it
Ah bummer thinking about trying again or just going for it?
i leave the hardware to others i do the software and the networking i love networking
I can dig it
My thing is I went back to school to learn game design so it’s like Art stuff a computer stuff and I’m happy with both 😄
i can try to get into IT at without expernce im doing care certifcate at moment
Nice! Was going to recommend certs
Some employers value real experience and certification more
no intrest in hardware but what u do with the hardware love doing it
Then they might pay for you to get the fancy degree or whatever.
they might yea
Awesome! I'm a software dev but I'm getting back into art as a hobby
It's so cool that you can combine both in the gaming industry
i like simplity sometimes with tech why use iphones
Yeah it is. I just hope the industry isn’t going to implode over the next few years 😅
i will do care few years and try to get into IT on the side
Aren't iPhones simpler to use than networking machines?
turns on game link news “another Indy studio shuttered and converting to ai drones” 💀
(Nah not all that bad but still)
thats why i use iphones they are way simplar
Yeah the old “it just works”
Ah I thought you were asking why use iphones lol
But yeah the state of the tech industry in general is sad
yep i like it just works with my phone and laptops and then fixing the problems i caused in my other stuff
I mean I can always try to go back to what I was doing before that was shipping (like big cargo ships) ai might be coming for that too but I’m sure there still going to need people too for a while at least
iPhones are lame you can only choose from like 3 slightly different new models every year
A valid critique
some ppl prefer things to stay the same
not everyone has to like constant changes
Most android phones look alike nowadays 
dont pop the bubble of an android fan shitting on iphones
But you can get ones with headphones jacks, folding screens, thermal cameras, under screen cameras, trigger buttons for games etc etc
my grandparents lol. Let my grandpa use an android at some point when he had to get a new phone, it was nightmare helping him out constantly.
Like most “new” Apple features are ones that might have been on android in some form for years I’ll say it but Apple sometimes dose it better imo
it has to be proven to work well before apple will do it
ended up just giving him an iphone se 3rd gen I had from my bin of company phones that are no longer in use.
i stick to iphones cos i like its basicly the same phone with a diffent outside
Happy grand pa?
yep
That’s what counts!
All my grandparents use androids 
he had 4s previously so it was almost the same minus some changes
(I'm an android user lol)
but he adapted to it
good for them
Good points lol
Oh that’s another thing too what the rest of the family uses or dosent use
it comes down to what ppl want in phones
My grandma had an SE then she lost it while overseas so I am waiting for her to come home and I have to set her up with a new one.
But like if you want a phone with a tested design, good software support and nice set of features, you'll be looking at the standard pixels or galaxies which are very similar
This^ I do thing some of those androids are pretty damn cool looking
Like galaxy note would be my first android
Actual it was my first android
But I went back to fruit soon after
nice to know if i swich imma buy an adorid as a spare out of ones u said
Yeah the galaxy note is pretty cool lol, but the galaxy phone I bought for my dad was full of ads 😬
Partly because that model had a mass recall due to battery issues and also I was like @pliant karma grandpa
Ah the note 7 right
Sounds about right
one my smart lights not happy with alexa
Dang
I got one that I can just turn off with a physical switch not as fancy but don’t have to pair it anything to get it to work
Gtg was nice chatting tech with yall @full fossil good luck with the IT stuff 🫡
iv got 2 both bettry powered where light is needed all the time they alterante each hour being on i have the same thing in half my house like my bedroom and hallways
not the smartest set up but its simple to fix (1 is on 2 is off and revserse each hr)
(Also yeah I know I don’t have to say goodbye in discord lol I just like to never know when I might be back lol)
Have a nice evening!
i will try to find an IT job or traning relted see ya
I had to mess around with creating a routing for one of my smart plugs lol
small led lamp in my office has never followed the routing I set for it so it's been on 24/7 for the past 1.5 years
its hard to set up but once its done i leave it
half my lights i can turn off half i cant on purpose in places like hallways and near doors
Can regular Linux users explain why Linux is good? I'm only asking because besides the no-windows thing, I don't feel much else going for it, and I mean that in no bad way.
what no windows thing
It doesn't really work with most creative and professional software without wine
By that I mean that it's not Windows
A lot of people just switch to Linux because they hate Windows or Microsoft
thats the the entire argument realy
i dont like microsoft but it works so i still use em
Kinda same
although since I run debloaters everytime I install Windows of any kind, it's not bothering me much honestly
W11 is fine imo without the bloatware
i just use strandard windows with noting removed
Okay that's kinda psychopath behaviour ngl
I'm not a Linux user, but it basically boils down to :
- The design under it (it's based on UNIX)
- It's free and open source, and it gives you a lot of freedom to modify it
- Most distro tends to be more privacy-friendly than windows
i need my pc to just work
Yeah but the last two boil down to a distrust of Microsoft, besides the modifying part
Yeah pretty much
Well yeah but de-bloating it doesn't break it
I highly recommend it tbh
iv put more shit on it tham they have
What stuff is removed by debloating it?
anything that windows needs to woek it seems like
You get to choose but mostly like useless services, ads, OneDrive(optional) and stuff like that
They just remove stuff that you wouldn't need and it kinda speeds up your PC
Ah does it automate the process?
Well yeah
Because I think you can do most of theses stuffs manually
dont tell ppl to remove the stuff they use a suggestion
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Huh?
I said it's optional
sure you dont use onedrive but i do
One one again today tc1 is
Then just don't click the "remove onedrive" box?
Most people dont care or dont want it lol
Dont get offended being the exception
Exactly, that's why it's in a "debloater"
the "shit" they put on is usfeull if stop bitching about it beinh there
you can just block ads with pihole
Woah, we're just saying that most people don't use it and it's bad for performance
yeah but the debloater does it all for you :P
Yeah I uninstall OneDrive lol, you can actually do it easily from the control panel
What's more annoying is that's it's harder to use windows without an account now
no i will not i actaly like windows dont like it use something else

And you can't install Windows 11 without internet and logging into your Microsoft account
I like windows too. Windows 7.

wellcome to 2024 now here is your imgainary award
So, instead of trying to fix it, just throw it away and use something completely different..? You don't seem very patient
Technically you can... But it requires using the command prompt 
Which is not something that is easy to do for the average person
have a sperate emils for stuff if need one but wont give yours
I can't imagine explaining to my dad what to do 😂
Let's tell grandma
"Yeah just open the command line and write this two page essay on why you don't want to register"
seperete emial for each account with someting like proton mail or your own custom domain
Damn you're higher than I am
Windows vista was great 🙈
it was a shit tip i wiped it instaly and put ubuntu on instead
It kinda started the downhill trend and it was just repulsive at first but it got shaped into something decent by the end
But I think I'm the only one on earth who actually liked it lol
I liked it too, it was just ahead of its time and a bit unfocused.
PCs that time weren't ready
i liked 7 didnt ned to sign up to everying to use your pc was nice
Most of its issues stemmed from it running badly on average PCs
I like linux.
Bet you couldn't go back to Windows 7
didnt day i wanted to
Yeah I ran vista on a PC that had the right specs so it was pretty cool (and I loved the design lol)
Kinda like the one in Mac?
Laptops were capable enough when I used it
i like it i use it when im not using chromeOS or windows
I liked XP more though, why my Mint install is themed that way
Noooo, wdym?
Agreed...
I actually like it tbh
It's not intuitive at all
Using protonmail and pihole? How? Is there a reason for that by the way?
It's just the bloatware that's annoying. Besides that it's very good because it has an amazing range of capabilities
Isn't Gnome very similar to how macos is designed?
encrpted emials everying stays in private and i foward to icloud to use my custom domains
I hate that they tied the Dock to the super key, and it only shows in that view
I mean if you're worried about privacy, windows is awful with that, especially 11
i ude stuff from every company cant get messed up when one comany goes doen then
imma be honest I don't see the privacy stuff being a problem
I self host, I dont go down unless my hardware fails
i can just move what i use that comay for to another
Thats the problem lol
They collect so much information its hardly even demographic, its personal
privacy is a myth anway so dont see ehy tryibg to get more
Is that a stage manager wannabe...?
It's just statistics lol
as long as they don't collect my files' contents specifically idc
And they make money off it. They take file hashes to improve windows defender (though understandable). Theres also the whole AI thing, I dont trust that.
just accept every comany will sell your data and get over it its not a problem if you dont live on the inteernt and have a life
Did Microsoft announce using your stuff for AI..? I thought only Adobe did that
If that's what it's called, yes
Linux doesnt sell my data because it doesnt collect it to begin with
Well they did say that by posting stuff on the internet, you agree to allow it to be used for AI training
Or something along those lines
That ig
That sounds very vague and not true
as soon as windows 10 stops i am going to fully ubuntu and chromeos
They can't really track you that deep
Googles Android and Chromebooks would like to have a word 
Idk its just a whole slurry of shit I dont wanna be in, especially going on in the future
i wil not use 11
Yeeeeah I dont count those. I barely even count Ubuntu. Far as I'm aware that IS just statistics though
The only reason why I could never switch to Mac fully is because of it's lack of VR and gaming capabilities
I think that with respect to content that’s already on the open web, the social contract of that content since the ‘90s has been that it is fair use. Anyone can copy it, recreate with it, reproduce with it. That has been “freeware,” if you like, that’s been the understanding.
have a life simple problem solved
From the CEO of AI lol
That unibrow is crazy
There's no such thing
only reason u have vr is to goon no need for vr if have a life
That's the title of the guy lol
Microsoft's AI department leader maybe but "CEO of AI" is not a thing
Thats a take lmao
Microsoft AI CEO
Buddy, if Beat Saber and Half Life Alyx counts as that, you have interesting tastes
GORN
great excuse now show me ur 3tb of goon tabs
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Dude what is wrong with you???
Great game
Someone took Mommy's credit card I think
Blade and Sorcery would be as good if not better if it had a more sensible Wave and Menu system
na on that gov money thats gonna run out soon
I barely touched B&S after the island update.
Just felt clunkier
Why do I gotta walk all the way over here to do smth, I dont get these new menus
YESS
And the "travel map" or whatever is so hidden away
I needed to look it up on YT XD
😀
Also new shit is good depending on who you get it from
There's no way @full fossil isn't just a troll
na
North America?
a troll dont pay for floatplane they would get banned in 15 mins and move on to another server
🤨
if i was its a very long game to play for no result is it?
And a troll wouldn't be old enough to have a credit card
Pfft you wish
gotta put the gov money somewhere
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its all gone on living expenses in 2 weeks better than noting
love the uk
only good thing is comapanys cant sell my data instaantly
Does GDPR make that much of a difference?
Depends on how well the laws are enforced
the uk will pull out off those rules and arreset ppl based on google searches
hi folks, i have an i5-13600KF, are there tools to diagnose any degradation / issues caused by the reported problems? (microcode and or oxidation)
You don't need a tool it's already happening
Maybe not the oxidation but the microcode and ring bus is
I want to diagnose the health of my CPU, specifically any permanent degradation that may have occurred as a result of these problems, how to do so?
I don't know what you mean that it's already happening.
Maybe you mean that the degradation is already happening, how can I see specifically how my CPU has degraded? Thanks
tbh it might just be best to RMA it if it has been running for a while, if you have not noticed any issues yet then you have a cache to be fine but for now the best ways is to make sure voltage is 1.3 or below (HWINFO64) if higher it might have some issues but you can also use tools like cinabech
are default (non overclocked) settings 1.3 and below?
I'd love to RMA but then I'm weeks without a CPU no? I have a lot of work to get done, it will also take a lot of time to disassemble the PC, put it back together. And I'd be getting another 13600KF as a replacement no?
Do you know any tools that could diagnose the level of degradation that a CPU such as mine may have undergone? Thank you.
silicon degredation can't be measured that easily I think
to my knowledge their are non yet as this has not been a issue before
thanks, I'll try to find something. I've never had to diagnose CPU health before.
I need a stable, performant, reliable CPU, I can't have this
we all do
when did you buy it?
have you had any issues?
you could undervolt it and see how low voltages it'll take, although I'm not sure how indicative that would be of the actual health of the cpu
You can downgrade to 12th gen or upgrade to Ryzen
november 2022, i don't think i've had issues i could unequivocally attribute to the CPU, so I will say no. if anything it has been "subclinical" (degradation that is not perceivable in day to day life)
ryzen wouldn't work on my mobo would it?
It would not
thanks
12th gen, same socket, true
ye that is a earlier unit, i suspect if you have had no issues it might be fine
oh wow thanks. this is surprising no? i thought earlier units had the oxidation thing, which apparently was fixed after?
CPU problems are masters of disguise, for example a common 13/14th gen problem throws a low GPU vram error
ye your unit can have it but if its been running fine then maybe not
Yes
hm right, this is what i thought, i may have had issues that were not attributable to the CPU on first look
i saw some one get a new mobo as they had some issues with not getting the right amount of fps
i see, thanks
like what
hm. now that i think about it, i've been able to resolve everything so perhaps it's indeed no the CPU. i'm just very alert because i did consciously try to overlock this thing hard when i bought it, i do have a massive noctua fan so perhaps that helped things
This degradation... is it by overheating? or what exactly? it kills some of many submodules? i'm not familiar with CPU architecture
not heat
he was getting killed by voltage
maybe the best health diagnosis i can do is benchmarking
But then i should wait until intel releases the "fix" mid August (IIRC)
And then it's safe for me to push the CPU. Does this sound half-sensible to you guys?
Flippin' heck. Is this why intel stock is eating dirt?
That and the layoffs
And the recession scare
since your cpu has alredy been running i would not be surprised if it already has a major amount of silicon degradation and when the "fix" comes out you can loose lets say 20%+ of performance just for the cpu not to die any more
how do you estimate that number, 20%?
20% of what, btw
its just a quick basic estimate from what i have heard online but its suspected to be even more for some cpues
please send link
just watch some GN vids on the issue
20% of what? single thread performance? cinebench score?
they just said performance so is suspect both cina and gaming
but in short intel pushed too close to the sun and got burned and now its hard to see who might have been affected
The stocks are trashed due to them hitting 1/5 of their projected earnings. The reasons for that are many
sorry i'm focusing on your number of 20% which you estimated from what you've seen, do you mean 20% lower cinebench score? what is gaming? what benchmark?
Those fuckin bananas costin them too much
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thanks i've seen this already, love Thor
What hasn’t Thor been quoted on at this point?
i dono like i said its a massive estimate on what you might have as it can be more but it can also be less i cant tell withou having tested the cpu the same day you got it and when the update comes
surely i don't need that, and i can compare benchmarks from the day the update comes to the top scores in benchmark rankings online?
it's ok i get the general gist. 20% is a very big number, wantd to know which data you used to estimate that, seems like it was more of a guess
It's easy to see who is affected they are named Intel 
There's no way to know what % performance loss if any is gonna happen from the microcode update
We just have to wait and see
So tossing out rumor numbers does nothing to inform
At a certain point it just becomes fear mongering
Whether intentional or not
some reports even suggested on unharmed cpues it can affected them with a around 20% loss in performance but since we still have no microcode update that i know of it means we cant do any testing so we have no real clue
Pro tip
If an outlet is throwing out "concrete" numbers based on pure speculation, you should probably find a different outlet.
ofc its why i said its fine if he has not had any issues crashes or strange things coming up
Userbenchmark never does this so they must be a good source 
Brother that's all ubm does
i havent decided whether ill be updating to the new microcode yet because my cpu is fine as it is
Might get pushed to you via windows update
it better not, thatd be cringe
It could be, they have that ability
i agree with the rest of your points but to be clear my idea is to wait until the update drops (when it's safe to push the CPU) and then compare the performance I get to the peak performance seen on benchmarks for my CPU (13600KF)
perhaps this was clear already
My point was purely targeted at the mention of 20% performance loss.
do we even have a choice about these things, as Aldonist says i imagine these things get pushed to us through OS updates
thought so, sorry and thanks
You're fine lol
it absolutely will be
watching the GN video what the frick is a boxed/ tray CPU, a CPU you buy in the box and install yourself?
OEMs buy a tray of CPUs, they don't need boxes.
ah makes sense, trays like cookies. i wish i had cookies. sorry i got distracted
Welp, if CPU already felt like a commoditized component and arbitrary choice in PC building, this sure is pushing me all the way to AMD for the first time ever
i mean commoditized in the sense of undifferentiable good, like salt or gold or oil, not in the newfangled liberal arts way of "turned into a product"
i know CPUs are not totally undifferentiated, i just mean for me they mostly are for me (CPU performance is not so important for machine learning)
I could sit you down at a computer and have you use it for 100 hours and I guarantee you wouldnt be sure what the cpu was without looking at specs
mainly it sounds Intel are being dishonest and untrustworthy, this is a serious break. i wonder if berkshire hathaway holds any intel
exactly yeah
Yeah Intel is being extremely slimy
i have very very strict rules about not giving a cent (or a second) to slimy people or companies. sounds like i'm moving to AMD in the future
Every company is slimy but Intel really pulled out all the stops on this one lmao
i dont think so, every company makes mistakes and every company will have psychopaths / malignant narcissists in them, but whether it's part of the company's identity is different. i look up to berkshire hathaway portfolio companies generally
what if you're getting "subclinical" degradation? degradation in your CPU that is gradual enough to be hard to diagnose. why not just update and be safe. i don't think a performance penalty is in the cards
this has been years in the making
where can i read about this? should be an interesting story. GN's video tries to illustrate that intel wasn't like this in 1993. Change of management?
... yes, things have changed in 30 years.
i run a lower allcore clockspeed with a manual voltage offset that i verified is stable with xtu av2 and occt so im not worried about any invisible degradation or performance loss
it's just annoying that ill have to change my voltage offset once they change my voltage behavior with the microcode update
and stability test for hours again
my boys at berkshire don't miss "The investor sold all their shares in Q2 2012 and doesn't own any shares in Intel anymore."
sorry why is it again that you dont want the update?
Tbf the retail ones also come in little trays in the boxes
i explained why in the two comments below the one that you replied to
sorry i see now
i thought you meant "i'll have to retune (...)" after you do your lower clockspeed + manual voltage solution
not after the Intel update
"It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it." Warren Buffett
Intel always had a bad rep
From shady deals with dell' to many security vulnerabilities
With consumers maybe, but corpos have loved them. Companies choose Intel even when it's blatantly objectively worse
regarding affected Intel CPUs, is there any benefit to updating mobo bios?
Not currently
so this is BS no? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3EW5lRIZYc
how would I keep up my group chat of 9 alts and one random unsuspecting person
Not in a position to watch a 20 minute video
i was merely pointing at the title, and sharing in case you may have watched it or be aware of it, it recommends bios update
wow wait a minute so my Asus Prime z690m plus d4 LGA1700 socket which i use with the 13600KF is also usable for 14th gen??
i thought it was 12th and 13th gen only
Yes
You may need to update the bios to support 14th gen
14th gen is 13th gen with the name scratched out lmao
new bios update for my mobo explicitly mentions voltages and intel https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/prime/prime-z690m-plus-d4/
downloading right now
Surely people would stop stealing/selling accounts so only the person who created the account would be using it
how tf do i tell the manger of where i volenter i dont wanna anymore
id rather eat fibreglass at this point
just say it politely and leave
tell them you don't wanna anymore
"I'm not going to volunteer anymore"
I've seen people come at you for it in here
No call no show
iv started to i cant ve otherd to show up anymore
Well that's rude to generalize such an insane amount of people
i need a good referance
just text or email them
iv done it 8 montha at 6 it became id rather do anying else thatn this
Hi [manager name],
For personal reason I will not longer be able to continue volunteering at [place name]
Thanks,
[your name]
imma get the good manger ans telll em
Yeah, cancel culture is great when confined to celebrities alone, we should definitely change it to be everyone on the planet
was it Ukrainians being hostile to you?
Someone said a word you don’t like so you ruin their career?
what sorts of things did they say to you?
well they had a similar situation and they started a revolution. they fixed it
i meant the other people
how would one fix this?
well this is better than nothing. i hope you guys go all the way
counting on you
one of my Ukrainian friends has just been enlisted. He is going to kill or be killed by invaders to his home country
If you have the source code you can try to debug it, or you can send a support ticket to the creators
yer fine i just dont wanna see you guys get in trouble for something avoidable, even if it's a genuine topic u no
how would i do that. i barly use java and my main use is mc plugins
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
man i just used an old wired mouse after years on a bluetooth mouse. so responsive. it felt amazing what the hell hahahah
You don't have the source code or an IDE then. Contact the makers of this program
isn't fabric for servers
nvm I'm dumb that's paper
have you tried just redownloading it lmao
i've tryed redownloading java, redownloading the .jar. trying other .jar's and messing with settings. nothing works
open a cmd and go there and do java -jar "jarfilename.jar"
see what it says
done that, says the file cant be found
Hey let’s drop that one too 🙂
then you typed it wrong
the filename
there's no such thing as a low latency bluetooth mouse right? i almost dont wanna go back to the bluetooth one after using the usb cabled mouse. so so so so smooth
sorry, i'm a bit stupid. how do i do that?
how stupid, but it left me smiling lol
Alternatively, use MultiMC to make life easier. 😉 https://fabricmc.net/wiki/player:tutorials:install_multimc:windows
at this point fuck it
I don't know how I lived before
playing modded minecraft with prism is actual life changer
I use it because linux lmao
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incredible way to get an emoji
Especially when it’s already an emote in the server
oh didn't know
Fuck off
whats vencord?
web works fine for me in everything except audio while streaming
I cannot for the life of me get it to work
that client is really stupid btw
dont ever touch it
It uses injection, and the website to work anyways
oop
didn't know
what's a good client you'd recommend, I haven't looked too deep into this
The native client (app) or official web-app. All other clients violate the ToS.
yeah I should've seen that coming
If you are on linux, you could emulate the windows app if its such a problem
i dont really know wtf that other guy was on about
What's the best GPU for 480p?
name checks out
4090
You've heard about unofficial discord clients
What about unofficial discord servers?
You really don't have to. Most distros have a native port of the desktop client that's usually up to date anyway.
I can sudo apt install discord on any Debian based os
I’m in a few of those
Dunno bout the others
then whats that persons problem with the discord linux app
ive used it before and it worked amazingly
Well, I wouldn’t say any discord app works “amazingly”
well, its discord
I don't even have to use sudo let alone a terminal to install it as a gui user.
web extensions are against tos, right?
like, google translator, ublock
no
why
those have nothing to do with discord
doesn't have streaming with audio on fedora
The mods don’t make the TOS
long standing issue with no fix
they do modify the DOM too
and ublock blocks discord packages for telemetry
idrc about specifics
to be quite frank
and dont know about them
go do your own research
Yo discord is gonna hate my capital one shopping extension
discord when it hears about my osu pp calculator extension
It just would be nice to know the line
ew a pp farmer
Widescreen video extension absolutely ruining discord
If you have to ask if it’s over the line, it probably is
Bitwarden? probably no, altough it injects into dom
Nvidia resolution scaling my discord videos
honestly, its actually better for everyone to not talk about tos specifcs
who knows... what if im against tos
catgirls are against tos
Well that's just the plot twist in it all. Lol.
Like everything. If you're breaking rules, know what rules you're breaking.... And stfu about it
Maybe don’t say that?
"guys is it illegal to stab people? Because I'm stabbing people big time"
Whoa, whoa, whoa - look officer, I ain't don't not knowing any nothings aboot whatever doesn't maybe not potentially happen behind the store at 1342 on Tuesday afternoons. I shouldn't have said that. Nope.
I don't use Web discord, so as long as i don't open the web discord i might be fine
“Is tax fraud illegal? I really am committing tax fraud guys, I’m writing everything off”
Speaking of which... I still need to play this sometime. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1205450/Turnip_Boy_Commits_Tax_Evasion/
Take control of an adorable turnip who happens to be an absolute menace to society. After failing to pay taxes and getting evicted from your home, you must go on an epic quest to pay back your massive debt to Mayor Onion. Garden tools to solve plantastic puzzles, meet eccentric vegetables and fruits, and take on treacherous fights against animal...
$14.99
8091
72
Turnip boy is what they called me in high school
I’m still evading taxes to this day. Got them jukes
🚟
If your monitor happens to mess up HDR colors, you might infringe discord tos because you are applying custom theme using it /s
computer
Hi
Shikanokonokonokokoshitantan

Gotta love ATM tech
Anyone know what is going on with Srapyard Wars?
Probably some kind of wars. Of a scrapy variety.
Wdym
Like if or when part 2 is coming out?

Oh that i'm not sure
lol
It's live on Floatplane right now
hi
Moral of the story, people with floatplane are better.
😔
People who pay money are better. Got it.
Correct
Mac user?
No, what the hell
Guess you aren’t better then.
womp womp
Pay for premium features or don't complain
it's like people using adblock on youtube then saying they'll boycot youtube if youtube blocks adblockers
Who is complaining?
you
Make your argument clear. Because all I did was challenge the assertion that people who pay money are “better”.
does anyone have suggestions for ghosting
don't buy cheap VA monitors
damn thx man
yw
it wasnt THIS bad until today
I mean, has LTT stratified their community into those who are prepared to pay and those who are not/cannot? Is being a blue name a sign of superiority? Is having a green name a sign of weak will and a lack of resources?
Should we force 24 children of green people to fight to the death for our entertainment? Who knows!
You don't need to force 24 children of green people to fight to the death
they'll happily do it without any prompting
Pay money, or don’t challenge that people who are blue are better?
You're not gonna be the next Napoleon that's for sure
I can tell this isn’t going anywhere.
Your statement was DOA
Pay me or don’t complain.
Guess you aren’t better.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/strix-halo-guide AMD is taking integrated graphics to another level.
Do you really not get the inherent sarcasm?
hi
Hi
and zero value is lost 
There's actually value gained
they don't need to serve someone who actually uses their resources and provide nothing in return
iirc the RPM of premium users are like 1000 times those of free users (source: LTT)
nah, just let em fight scrapyard wars
Rotations per minute
Finally got working on my instruction set, got 40 down rn and still have some to go
Should prolly get that looked at
Guys I have a small question and I am not sure where to ask it. If I where to subscribe to the LTT Floatplane, am I allowed to watch it together with my friends through a Discord stream? Thanks for the help in advance!
You shall not archive, download (caching excepted), reproduce, distribute, modify, display, perform, publish, license, create derivative works from or otherwise infringe on, offer for sale, or use (except as explicitly stated herein) the content and information contained on or obtained from or through the service without prior permission from Floatplane Media or the Creator, as applicable.
https://www.floatplane.com/legal/terms
i just realised something
can't really stop you if you really want to.
the navigation bar on android is only like 1mm bigger than the notif bar
people still use buttons?
yea
a lot of people i know still do
i switched back from gestures
(although last night i just said i'd keep using them from now on)
damnit i can't even decide no more
Gestures is so fire
no way people really use buttons?
probably
no way people really use gestures
we exist and oh yeah we hate fruit ninja
most people use gestures nowadays
i like being able to go back basically from anywhere, from both sides
What if in the final episode of scrapyard wars, Luke's PC is just this?
Would he be docked points for no case? Or win by default
Docked points for running windows 7
😦
Did Linus reveal the price of the precision screwdriver?
The room is the case
10000L case
Giga ATX
hi
Which one? It's not in the latest one, I've watched it
Oh alright, I was watching it right now
He didn't say it there
Oh wait, there's a part of the video called "Precision screwdriver pricing, benefits of the driver"
Maybe it's there
Heya! I just joined this server.
I did not know Linus had his own Discord server. 😅
13:37!
I just heard the price, I'm shocked.
29.99
I thought it would have been like 40 bucks
I mean it's fully aluminum and stuff
I'll definitely buy it then
fair enough
i honestly like both
so it's hard to choose
So Linus’s recent video about the home server rack, cooling loop thing got me thinking
I’m wondering if they could install a flow sensor connected to a valve to stop the flow of coolant in the case that the input and output levels are mismatched
Kind of like a ground fault circuit interrupter, but for liquid
The other idea I had was installing some kind of non-conductive drip tray between each unit in the rack
Absolutely
The flow sensor could also send a shut down command to everything in the rack similar to how a UPS does
It just adds complexity and cost
Maybe just a signal to the UPS because then the UPS itself could send the shutdown signal
Unless the computers turned off on their own when they start to get toasty
You could hook the flow sensor up to a rack control module… they have these at theme parks with water rides and stuff where things stop if the water loop has a fault
As far as the corrosion goes, I can only assume that there may have been stainless steel in there somewhere that shouldn’t have been
Some of those automotive grade hoses can have steel reinforcement bands in them
The other issue I could see is the iodine reacting to some thing creating a pretty powerful electrolyte
Alternately there could’ve been a bootleg part not up to proper specifications
Guys help
I just finished my first pc
And my mb is flashing orange
And I won't get display on my monitor
BardwareHob
check the motherboard manual to see what the flashing orange light means.
I can't find it in the manual
what mobo is it ?
do a quick google search for it
The lights don't mean much
The problem is my PC won't display
try using the mobo hdmi to plug in the monitor, sometimes it bugs out on the first boot, happened to me and then after i just plugged it back into the gpu and it was fine
I did
and you have intergrated graphics on the cpu?
Damn it why can't I send images
Idk does 5800x have integrated
You let's move to tech two I want to send a video
nope apparently not
Why does cellular data cut out randomly
could someone help me in #tech-chat-1
hey all, this is probably a stupid question but drivers aren't installed on the bios or anywhere on the mobo right?
my wifi and bluetooth stopped working, and i want to plug in another HDD with my old OS, just to check if it's the card or the drivers
Yeah wifi and Bluetooth drivers should be installed on your HDD
hdd????
(yeah maybe upgrade to an SSD soon lol)
hey, anyone here that does video editing by any chance?
maybe
what do you want done?

well, i actually have a question, if i record most of gameplay for later editing and youtube, and i probably almost never going to need slow motion, are there any advantages in recording higher than 60fps?
i use like 60/80k bitrate for 1920 and 100fps currently for mp4 with h265
Discord changing ui again?
idk about ultrawide but 1440p is nice
then you know what you must get 💸
ips or oled for color
i thought nobody buys 1080 uw
tn yikes
just get a lg uw and not an oled bc youre gonna burn it in quick
linus.
(it won't)
Turns out all these years of technology advancement means oleds don't burn in like they used to 
Tech advances so cool
i wouldnt get an oled until microled becomes good enough

and able to fit 4k on a 27 inch
there are no gaming 4k oled monitors that are 27 inch
thus why i dont want an oled
You could at least not fear monger people who do or would like to have an oled
Something to think about
my current one is a 27 4k and it has some good ahh colors
even for a cheap one
i had to do a little calib but now it looks more than good
rtings
they got a lot of tested monitors
mine is going against the apple studio display with panel quality
i heard those use lg panels too
this probably wont ever exist
😭
microled is more than a decade away from being used for gaming monitors and 4k 27" will not be a premium combo by that point
i feel like 27 4k is perfect size
surprised nobody has made a gaming oled in this size yet
why do we need larger monitors?
samsung did make a 27" 4k qd-oled panel and brought it to a trade show, but we wont see it used in a monitor for another year
i want 21.5" 4K 240Hz
<@&750150305383186585>
rip dudes account
that was quick
can anyone help me making decision for headphones?
airpods pro
hi i wna ask whats the difference of arm and x86
sure
arm is reduced instruction set
It would take longer for someone to explain it here properly than it would for you to google it
just wonderin since theres a new update for davinci resolve
bro thinks i am ballin
indeed
If it's a desktop it's x86
check #audio-tech have 3 options
jokes on you i am broke
its public beta just curious
aight thx
and i am not😔
skill issue at this point ngl
tbh i would ask the audio nerds
well new laptops do come with arm cpus yk
i dont use headphones and got airpods so i just recommend them
@drowsy canyon sent u a message there
exactly thats why its in audio tab
kinda need fast suggestion lol
I'm not gonna break down the differences between that shit when all he wanted to know was which version to download
The chances of him actually running arm right now are so astronomically insanely low it's not worth even thinking about
whats your cpu
i have airpod pros (replicas) they feel hella good for what i got it for lol
like for what use to be specific just day to day driver?
gaming?
or music production editing etc?
Can't wait to be proven right
yeye
its my good old i7 7700 but im looking forward to upgrade to a amd cpu next month also anyrecomendations for a budget under 3k?
Woah I'm right
thats x86
day to day
have a gaming one working fine till now lol
So insane
Who could have guessed
demn son
#1106613567966429224 is a better place to ask
with that budget youll be able to get whatever you want, so id say the ryzen 9950x if you're building in one month
am5 mobo first then something from 7000 series
youre giving too much of a budget
It's his pc?
pcs arent expensive like houses anymore
Who are you to say what budget he has lmao
It's his budget
Let the dude have his budget
BALLS
So real
Glad that didn't embed
NUHUH
yhep
SADGE
Keep trying you'll get it
im looking for something that is future proof n upgradable
Future proofing isn't really an actual thing
People bought 3090's to future proof and now they're mid-range
@undone mountain laptop or desktop?
desktop of course i hahaha
This should be entertaining
3k for the tower or whole setup?