public-chat

[grim belfry]

<@&750150305383186585>

lmao

[acoustic flame]

what went on in here

[grim belfry]

A "Giveaway"

[gilded quest]

you're just upset you didn't win

[grim belfry]

There was someone a couple weeks ago who went on a massive rant that all giveaways are rigged

Oop looks like they've since been banned

[past sigil]

hello does anyone maybe have a idea why my cpu under very heavy load in this case rendering with a AIO is running at a crazy 98c at some points

im using a intel I9 11900k with a Corsair H100i ELITE CAPELLIX AIO
and no overclocking

sorry if this is more of a tech chat question

[sturdy moth]

how many watts does it have when u render on ur 11900k?

[grim belfry]

More than 8

[covert cradle]

Depending on your motherboard manufacturer, it may be overclocking by default

[full fossil]

this ^^

[past sigil]

i have a msi z590 gaming edge wifi

[past sigil]

not sure how i can check that?

[sturdy moth]

in hwinfo

[mint sandal]

Man I can't wait for next week to be done and gone

Medical procedure next week 😔

[polar fern]

first time having my new pc on since wednesday morning. puts out too much heat & the AC already struggles. Hope yall are doing ok.

[grim belfry]

If your PC is making your AC struggle, it needs to get checked lmao

[gilded quest]

Maybe they have an undersized window unit?

[grim belfry]

Even then

[covert cradle]

MSI has been implicated in all the recent overclocking by default issues that broke AMD CPUs and made Intel unstable. I would assume their 11th gen mobos are also overclocked by default, but I can't really say for certain.

[gentle slate]

do small techy thing for company
company now wants you to setup license plate recognition cameras

guhhhhhhh

[mental narwhal]

With the msi mag panel m100r is there any of these models or similar that support an atx mother board??

[harsh quartz]

Fuck those things. They’re set up everywhere in our city now and I can’t stand them

[gentle slate]

Lundun?

[harsh quartz]

No it’s a city in Tennessee

[gentle slate]

this is for gate automation.

Keep track of who's entering and leaving and also operate the gates to permit specific plate numbers.

like cousin boss... All I can do is use simple functions on excel.

[grim belfry]

Frigate plus is probably your best bet if you want something cheap

You can also get ready to go kits on AliExpress

However for security’s sake a long range RFID opener would probably be a better idea

[harsh quartz]

That’s fine then ig, I just don’t like any plate tracking software as a rule of thumb, especially when they’re spread out around a city and recorded over a period of months

[pallid falcon]

Hey chat of that everyone can access,

Gimme a tech tip

[hearty aurora]

hi

[mint yacht]

You can put your AIO rad in an ice bucket for short bursts of extra cooling

[jaunty compass]

space heater gaming

[past sigil]

oh ok so should i underclock or is there like a overclocking option in bios?

or just limit the watts

[grim belfry]

#1027757333117415424

[pallid falcon]

Thank you for the tech tip you

A tech tip a day keeps the IT department at bay

Wait is Riley a banana

[ionic abyss]

how do i reinstall windows the usb stick only shows itself on the drive list

[flat steeple]

what do y'all think of PELADN?

[manic torrent]

Frigate is awesome

[fervent dragon]

Hi

[ionic abyss]

So how do I make windows see existing drives when trying to install from usb

Trying to format current windohs drive and do fresh install

[pallid falcon]

Good question

Maybe #1027757333117415424 could help you

[long belfry]

i am trying to delete a folder on my pc but it says that i need permission from my pc even though i am already an administrator
anyone know how to fix it?

[pallid falcon]

Good question

Maybe #1027757333117415424 could help you

[full fossil]

Watch bro be trying to delete sys32

[old current]

Hi!!!!

[pallid falcon]

Hiii

[polar fern]

@grim belfry The air conditioner is in the attic, which is not insulated and is open to the ambient air through attic events on either end. It struggles with keeping up when the temperatures go above around 90°F. Having my computer on pumping out heat of its own when the air conditioner is already struggling and falling behind the thermostat not a good idea.

People keep confusing this. My computer is fine. It’s the air conditioner that’s fucked.

[full fossil]

whens wan show man i was promised morning and morning has come and gone, if they dont start it right now im gonna cancel lmg

[pallid falcon]

I think within the next hour or so

[ionic abyss]

You need take ownership

I did delete sys32 that's why I need to reinstall windohs

I might have done so from linux

No clue why the windows install usb can't see the ssd

[warm pier]

does anyone have time to give me a hand? i have 2 monitors on a 2070 and one on a 3060. when i play most games it will use the card that is connected to the monitor that the game is displayed on, except for fortnight. it is displayed on my main monitor, 2070, but rendered on my left monitor, 3060. i tried a few things but cant figure it out.

[paper brook]

is floatplane broken? when i try login it just says:
Failed to process reCAPTCHA challenge. Please check your internet connection and try again.

strange works with firefox but not chrome

[harsh quartz]

Probably a chrome extension

[plucky urchin]

So the poll of 70% Firefox users was foreshadowing

[strange elk]

Hello

[steady hull]

Hi!

[strange elk]

Got quora to work without an account

[full fossil]

Damit can't do all caps...no Elijah keep watching wan the viewers are your boss not Linus

[pallid falcon]

They know of the issue

Do you have the recaptcha thing at the bottom right of your screen

[ionic abyss]

I've installed evry version of windohs from 3.0 and up but win 11 is a problem why

[pallid falcon]

Good question

Maybe #1027757333117415424 could help you

[gilded yew]

They live

[strange elk]

https://tenor.com/view/they-live-obey-scary-chuckle-gif-12292445

[pallid falcon]

I Obey

[ionic abyss]

Why can't win11 be easy

[strange elk]

Money

[pallid falcon]

Fam tbh it sounds like yous hasing a driver problem if your setup isnting finding your drive imma be honest dawg

We should boycott microsoft and ltt should make a floatplane OS

[plucky grove]

I love blender

[strange elk]

I ain't subscribing to an OS

[pallid falcon]

Fair

[harsh quartz]

SteamOS when

[pallid falcon]

It's on my steamdeck

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, that’s great for your steamdeck

[strange elk]

The "forks" dont count, they dont feel as good

[pallid falcon]

Forks of steamos?

I thought steamos was a fork already

[strange elk]

More so imitations

You can fork a fork of a distro that's what Linux Mint is

[pallid falcon]

Kobold os when

[strange elk]

Whenever you make it.

[rough temple]

love this firefox theme :3

[pallid falcon]

Fuck I'm to tired 24.7 to do that

[strange elk]

Ew.

I see the appeal but gross

[pallid falcon]

I love my theme :3

[strange elk]

Google

[pallid falcon]

Yea it's stock

[strange elk]

Something about a bridge

[pallid falcon]

?

[rough temple]

my steam is also steamed similarly :trollface:

[strange elk]

I just dont understand how people navigate that engine anymore.

Stopped using it as my main search engine years ago

[pallid falcon]

I use Google on my phone and bing on my PC

[strange elk]

Also used to use bing till earlier this year

[strange elk]

OK that actually looks really good

[pallid falcon]

Meow?

[strange elk]

I started using brave search, kinda considering searx though

[pallid falcon]

I don't like brave

[rough temple]

are hyperlinks blocked here?

[strange elk]

I dont use their browser. I use Firefox

[rough temple]

Why...

[strange elk]

Their search is solid though

[pallid falcon]

Disagreed

[pallid falcon]

Why..

[strange elk]

This is public chat, why not.

[rough temple]

Why...

[gilded panther]

how do we ask questions in WAN show?

[pallid falcon]

I guess, there's a reason I spent most my time in #pilot-toast

[rough temple]

read about markdown, discord supports some markdown syntax

[strange elk]

Buy merch

[pallid falcon]

I didn't ask to ask?

[rough temple]

ik, just want a reason to mess with hyperlinks rn

[pallid falcon]

One of the cheapest things you can get is a giftcard

[strange elk]

Anyone else having this open on them with no prompts whatsoever?

[pallid falcon]

No

[gilded panther]

so like one question per merch?

[strange elk]

Its happened twice now today.

Closed it earlier

[pallid falcon]

It's whatever you can fit in the box

[gilded panther]

oh

[pallid falcon]

Not all messages may be he responded to yadda yadda

[pliant karma]

Dan is the one that curates them also.

[pallid falcon]

I put that message so I'm not blamed if they don't respond :3

[pliant karma]

[pallid falcon]

[strange elk]

Yeah looks like a new feature. I want to leave discord so bad

[pallid falcon]

What new feature

[strange elk]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/24327230474263-Please-add-a-way-to-disable-block-the-Discord-Updates-DM

Just rolled out today for some people I guess

[pallid falcon]

It's been there for a while

[strange elk]

This is worthless

I dont need this at the top of my DMS

They have an update bubble already and a changelog

[pallid falcon]

Top of your dms?

[strange elk]

Yeah its appearing as if they just messaged me.

[pallid falcon]

Mines not at the top of mine

It's whenever they messaged me last

Tho I muted mine

[pliant karma]

yea I got messaged twice but did I check no I have notifications muted so I have no clue if someone is messaging me

[strange elk]

I dont know if I got a notif or not, I think it just.. Appears there like a fucking zit

[forest pike]

oh yea I got the update one earlyer

[pliant karma]

I'll get it at some point

either on my canary or regular client

[harsh quartz]

I think it showed up when I signed in after an update

On mobile at least

[forest pike]

desktop for me but only this one

[nova spade]

was there a recent ltt video that briefly showed 3d scanning with a phone by taking lots of pictures?

[jaunty compass]

I'm excited to get the katwalk c2+

[jaunty compass]

Yes, there was

I remember that too

[graceful burrow]

Photogrammetry is what you're referring to, so you have a better term to go off

[strange elk]

Yeah I got that both early this morning and about an hour ago

[minor tusk]

hi where do i ask tech related questions?

[forest pike]

down a chat tech chat 1 or 2

[minor tusk]

okayy, thank you

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, if you want a better video of it there’s plenty by corridor crew that go into depth about it

[nova spade]

I found Polycam on the play store so I'm trying that out

[real zinc]

hi

[untold hill]

hello

[full fossil]

Hey if there’s anyone who is familiar with the internal of a laptop or has experience in laptop repairs I would love some help over at tech support

[regal tinsel]

Did everyone enjoy early wan :]

[slow lake]

yup

cuz usually the show would be at midnight for me

[slow lake]

yoooo

[fierce tinsel]

Normally I have 2 streams playing at the same time on Friday.. in addition to other stuff I'm actually doing.. so no complaints about having that split up today. Though learning the actual reason for the change is depressing.

[wind dust]

i’m gonna have subway for the first time in 15 years tomorrow is it any good?

[untold hill]

whats up

[fierce tinsel]

No. Its more expensive, and much worse. At least from my experience in Canada.

They got rid of half the breads, the theres less meat per serving, and they don't have the same variety they used to have either.. remembers fondly the Pulled Pork Subs

[untold hill]

depends if you enjoy eating lead

[wind dust]

ok

[fierce tinsel]

I only get Subway now if I have a bogo deal doing on..

Or not at all

Been probably 8-10mo since I last got one..

[full fossil]

hello

[silver sun]

174

[rigid pawn]

@wind dust Really? Damn. I love Subway and think I ate there month lol

last month *

I would go there more often, I'm just too lazy, literally to walk there when I can either get dominos delivered or go to more convient places to eat

(its far more of a walk, then other places where I can just ride a bus with shorter walk bus stops.... lazy ass move I know... lol)

[plush trellis]

Hello, do any of you have a setup with dark/navy blue walls?

Im remodeling my room/setup and im having trouble finding any good examples that isnt just rgb everywhere

[harsh quartz]

It REALLY depends on the manager of the subway. Also they send out coupons every month but not a single subway in our area takes the coupons, so it’s literally just manufactured waste and is infuriating

[rigid pawn]

Really? I have never had a subway send out coupons

[inland cobalt]

Look at what I found

[summer folio]

Ruby!
I loved the ATI mascot, have the Ruby figurine

[inland cobalt]

It’s a windows 7 gaming pc

Idk the spec r currently

[graceful burrow]

Prolly smart to get a fan on that cpu cooler lol

[strange elk]

Man duckduckgo is just google with less traffic.

Ad ad temu

More ads

Also proof Amazon's "recommendations" are a joke

[jaunty compass]

I bought like $900 of stuff at microcenter

I got a 6950 XT, meshify C, and Ryzen 7 7700x

[leaden gale]

Fellow 6950 XT enjoyer spotted

🤝

[vocal raptor]

I was going through old dvds and found a totally legit version of windows 2000 pro

[cursive holly]

Hi!

[lost leaf]

@full fossil

[split briar]

@full fossil

[brisk slate]

hi all, great to be here.

[ember quail]

Computer 👍

[junior maple]

hi

[full fossil]

I have a hp prodesk 600 g2 mini.
Specs:
i3 6100T
8 gb ram
500 gb harddrive
i plan on hosting Minecraft servers on it should i buy a 128 gb disc or 256 gb

[torpid fractal]

should i buy bose qc 45 headphones now? (200usd from 350), or should i wait for bigger sales in 4th of july sale?

[graceful burrow]

New cpu it's gonna be pretty painful to run even unmodded on that

[shell wyvern]

Who said this

[vagrant sluice]

Cloudflare Warp+ is pretty awesome

[shell wyvern]

Black MOBO in a white build 🙌🙌🙌🙌

[chrome vector]

Is that quantam ram?

[olive stream]

True

[quasi belfry]

Sound cards?

[gaunt cave]

Didn't even know they still make those

[quasi belfry]

There’s a non zero chance we have PCIe 2d gpu’s

Thanks google, this is definitely what I meant by “2d only graphics card”

[near nymph]

Hmm knock off aeropress looks cooler and works better 🧐

[tidal lark]

hello chaps

[opal thunder]

[fierce tinsel]

I still have my Legit 95 RTM, B, C, Plus, 98, 98SE, and XP RTM disks.. along with my totoally not pirated ME, 2K RTM, SP2, SP4, XP SP1, SP2 disks..

[graceful burrow]

Ok

[fierce tinsel]

Never know when they will come in handy.. well I do cause I still have a P1 system I use for retro gaming stuff that doesn't always play nice in emulation..

[long moth]

Tough croud i get it

[inland cobalt]

I think

[solemn topaz]

Hi all, lil bit late getting here

[gilded stratus]

Why does bro need a soundcard RAH

[eager notch]

STRAIGHT TO THE GULAG

[strange elk]

They are upgrading an optiplex to make a "decent" gaming pc. Its got a Core 2 Duo E8400

I asked the same question. They ended up getting a full size with a serial port so it doesnt even fit, and I was looking for a suitable replacement

[fringe igloo]

Do public usb hackers also hack usb c ports?

[strange elk]

Its USB.

Universal Serial Bus.

[long moth]

he busted out the acronym

[fringe igloo]

Damn

[fringe igloo]

😭 facts

[strange elk]

I mean its essentially the same standard just moved around and faster lol.

[gilded stratus]

Hi v

[strange elk]

Hello

[rough temple]

linux display has some unfortunate acronyms, drm and kms. those being direct rendering manager and kernel mode setting

[graceful burrow]

Windows has kms as well

Key management system or smth

I'm probably very wrong on that but it does have kms

Key management service
Daaamn close

[grim belfry]

I meant the air conditioner

[full fossil]

Look, it's the color the bublegum in the 90s had!

[near nymph]

I love it

https://youtu.be/a8QydmB-H_I?si=5CIAIkbZgTmFV7Ai

Oh no

[lilac bear]

we have gamers nexus at home

[turbid warren]

Anyone ever bought the thermal paste from mryeester? I doubt they would but it would be a cool ltt short for them to review it.

[pliant lintel]

I’m a second hand purchaser for a corsair liquid cooler; if I get the original receipt can I still qualify for warranty?

[vapid smelt]

we dont work for corsair

[graceful burrow]

Didn't we go over this for like an hour and a half yesterday

[pliant lintel]

This is a different peice

[graceful burrow]

Same brand?

[pliant lintel]

seller said there was no name on there

on the receipt

[graceful burrow]

You'd have to find the warranty paperwork for the part

[pliant lintel]

so if he gave me it can’t I qualify for warranty?

[graceful burrow]

And read it

[pliant lintel]

oh damn

[harsh quartz]

Sadge

[raw grove]

I need to know if i slot in a pci 4.0 nvme into a motherboard that has two slots one being 4 and one being 3 if that will negatively affect performance of the drives as well as the gpu?

[graceful burrow]

Ive read that 3 times I can't make sense of it

[raw grove]

i mean its pretty simple.... i have two drives.... one is a pci 3 one is a pci 4 and i wanna know if using both will affect perfomance

[graceful burrow]

Why would it

[raw grove]

the board is a b550

if that helps

[graceful burrow]

It's actually not really relevant info

Chipset alone doesn't inform at all for this

[raw grove]

there is a pci 4 slot and a pci 3 slot

[graceful burrow]

Yes

[raw grove]

i swear i watched a youtube video that stated this would cause an issue

[graceful burrow]

Some boards are built in a way that disables some sata ports if you use the second nvme slot
If your board does that, well it will do that
Not all boards do

[raw grove]

but maybe i was wrong

[harsh quartz]

Then go watch more YouTube videos

[graceful burrow]

Otherwise it doesn't matter

[harsh quartz]

Huh, I actually haven’t seen this before. Are the sata ports using the PCIe lanes or something?

[graceful burrow]

Yes

It's actually quite common

[harsh quartz]

Cool, I guess most people don’t use the majority of their satas anyways

[graceful burrow]

Exactly

[raw grove]

thanks for being "super helpful"

[graceful burrow]

"anytime"

[harsh quartz]

Now I’m curious what was warshipped :p

[raw grove]

see you next tuesday

[harsh quartz]

That’s vaguely threatening

[graceful burrow]

Hopefully not

[raw grove]

riiiiight

i came here for help and you demeaned me....... I totally see how I was in the wrong

[harsh quartz]

It’s wild to me how much storage standards have changed over like 10 years

[lilac bear]

for real

[harsh quartz]

Bruh he gave you as straight an answer as possible, idk what else you wanted

[raw grove]

yeah imagine having a question......

its mind blowing

[vapid smelt]

imagine having google

[graceful burrow]

I acted weird cause you were acting weird
I did give you a straight and accurate answer
Sorry for that I guess

[raw grove]

everyone quick pile on to the guy that had a question

[lilac bear]

7200RPM SATA HDD being "the good area"
to now NVME M.2 PCIE 5.0 being considered "over kill"

[raw grove]

quick send out the notis

[lilac bear]

storage evolved like crazy

[graceful burrow]

Ye it got wild fast

[vapid smelt]

your question was basically, does using ssds' impact gpu performance

[harsh quartz]

And to go from like a 120gb ssd being rare and hundreds of $s and now it’s like 100$ for a terabyte with dram cache

[lilac bear]

god yeah the nand pricing too

[raw grove]

i was just trying to fix my kids computer but thanks for being a dong

[lilac bear]

1TB at 3500 megatransfers a second is only $60

[graceful burrow]

I wish optane was still kickin

[vapid smelt]

np

[harsh quartz]

Like, taking A+ and hearing about pata, into sata HDDS, and the different sata standards, when then you start working on them and it’s all ssds everywhere, even the cheap 400$ computer people pick up

[raw grove]

THE DONG CONTINUES

[harsh quartz]

Why are you being… this

[raw grove]

well its simple

i asked a question that obviously i didn't know the answer to

and i was treated like the plague

[vapid smelt]

thats when you use google

[graceful burrow]

[harsh quartz]

And someone answered the question. Someone else also gave you an alternative means of finding an answer. What else do you fuckin want mate?

[raw grove]

if you know thats when.... you don't be a dick

[harsh quartz]

You seem to be ignoring the fact that the question HAS been answered multiple times

[raw grove]

I'm not ignoring the fact that a large youtube channel that purports to have a community that is helpful and willing to go the extra mile just treated me like a pile of steaming dog poo

[harsh quartz]

Tell Linus

[raw grove]

i will

[vapid smelt]

if onyl we had a #1027757333117415424 to help noobs with problems

[raw grove]

anywho have a great life.... being super rad humans!

[smoky badge]

lol

[graceful burrow]

I'm so confused

[lilac bear]

"if only there was something that could answer my question"

https://tenor.com/view/microsoft-copilot-microsoft-copilot-copilot-key-microsoft-copilot-key-gif-16414366656044479204

[harsh quartz]

I never understood optane. I always heard it referred to as something along the lines of “persistent memory” and I’ve looked into it, but I just don’t get the point of it

[graceful burrow]

Durability and latency was crazy

They called it persistent memory because it was so quick to access it might as well be ram

[harsh quartz]

But it was in ram slots right? Cause I saw computers that had it listed as ram

[graceful burrow]

Nope

Not afaik

Always just been regular ol ssd's iirc

[harsh quartz]

Okay, I saw a computer once that had it listed as ram by task manager, but I know windows is fuckin dumb too, which is what always confused me. I thought it was just like a ssd in the form factor of ram

[graceful burrow]

Nah the closest you'll get to that is dimm.2 but that was just a stupid proprietary m.2 slot

Thanks Asus so innovative

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, which is why it never made sense to me. Also it being listed as ram by windows is confusing, when it shows 24gb total, 8gb normal and 16gb optane

But with ram and high speed SSDs being so cheap I don’t figure it would be super useful for gaming

[graceful burrow]

Yeah they've kinda been obsoleted

I had a 32gb accelerator module

It was nvme x2, not the normal x4

Used it as a dynamic cache for my main system hdd

It genuinely helped, a fucking lot

Like actually it was great

And then that hdd died

[harsh quartz]

Ahh, if it’s basically a cache for the HDD then I can imagine that would be amazing, basically ssds before ssds

[graceful burrow]

Yeah

[harsh quartz]

Right, that makes more sense, and also makes sense why they’re no more :p

[graceful burrow]

It was technically the first ssd I've ever had

I couldn't go back I dropped 130 bucks on a Samsung 860 sata ssd, just a measly 500gb

[harsh quartz]

I went from an old 5000rpm drive straight to a Samsung 980 pro

[graceful burrow]

Yeah you feel it

You genuinely feel it

I've upgraded my buddies from HDD's to ssd's and they're like
I could never go back

[harsh quartz]

My old pc took like 20 minutes to boot, with that hdd, 4gb of ram, and an old fx 2 core “quad core” cpu

[graceful burrow]

Anytime I gotta use a hdd computer I feel horrible

Thank God they're so rare now

[harsh quartz]

Some are fine, but that thing was rough

Toplime, just the person I wanted to see

[grim belfry]

Yes

[vapid smelt]

did you really use a hdd for this long.....

[harsh quartz]

I was a broke bitch, like a broke broke bitch, want allowed to work till I was 18, then didn’t allow myself to spend money on a pc till I had my car paid off. Then I balled out

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnk6gnOBYIo to broke to buy a the chad fatty dove?

[harsh quartz]

I also went from an fx series to a am4

[graceful burrow]

Which fx chip

[harsh quartz]

And a gt730 to a 3070

[harsh quartz]

Uhhh, gimme a minute

[vapid smelt]

so did i fx 8350 black edition to the r5 3600 then finally to the r5 5600x

[graceful burrow]

How could you forget
I remember every component

[grim belfry]

How tf

[graceful burrow]

How tf not

[harsh quartz]

Because I hated this and did not care about remembering. Fx4100

[graceful burrow]

Ew

[vapid smelt]

what sku number was you ram that you used 9 years ago?

[grim belfry]

I can barely remember my fucking [insert personal info here]

[graceful burrow]

It was some red G.skill ripjaws
2x4 ddr3

That's what I remember

[harsh quartz]

It was BAD

[vapid smelt]

if you tell me the info i can remind you of it

[graceful burrow]

Had a 6300
Wasn't much better

[vapid smelt]

my oc fx 8350 wasnt much better to

[harsh quartz]

All those years I thought I had a quad core 😦

[vapid smelt]

all the years i thought i had 8 cores

[grim belfry]

How kind of you

[vapid smelt]

< nice guy

[harsh quartz]

Yeah I went straight from that fx4100 to a 5800x

And then literally like 2 months after I did that, the 5800x3d came out

[vapid smelt]

from crawling to driving

[silk island]

3 days until macbook yay

[harsh quartz]

Crawlin to zoomin

[vapid smelt]

how much dedicated wams

[silk island]

48GB

[harsh quartz]

I bewieve you mean Deditated

[harsh quartz]

Damn, there goes 7k

[silk island]

bit of an exaggeration there

[harsh quartz]

Damn, it was more?

[silk island]

less, significantly less

[vapid smelt]

2.8

[harsh quartz]

7k Vietnamese dong

[silk island]

AUD skill issue

[grim belfry]

The price I pay to not get into a $50k debt when I leave the hospital /s

[harsh quartz]

What is this, like 4k real money?

[grim belfry]

4600.94

[harsh quartz]

Jeez

[graceful burrow]

Plus tax

[grim belfry]

nope

[graceful burrow]

If applicable

[grim belfry]

inc gst

[harsh quartz]

For us, yes

[grim belfry]

it's cheaper in aus 👀

[harsh quartz]

Okay, so 7k was an exaggeration, but 5k is still a HELL of a lot for that

[silk island]

costs around the same as my desktop so no not really

and it has less RAM than that macbook

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but ram is like 100$

[silk island]

don’t care, i’m moving to apple lol because windows is at this point a joke

[grim belfry]

ram may be $100 but deditated wam is much more expensive

[harsh quartz]

and apple isn’t?

[harsh quartz]

Of all the memes to survive, why this one, I will never understand

[grim belfry]

Because it's much easier for me to understand than skibidi toilet

[vapid smelt]

because we can all relate to the kid

[silk island]

less so than microsoft at least

least apple doesn’t announce features like Recall that are insanely privacy invasive

[harsh quartz]

Okay but like, I don’t hear people quoting Charlie the unicorn, although llamas with hats pops up every now and again

[vapid smelt]

but we are getting the new update with our own dedicated spy i mean windows recall

[harsh quartz]

No, they just charge 1k for extra ram on a computer that you can’t open or repair :p

[silk island]

that kind of comes with being ARM-based and tightly integrated

[harsh quartz]

1k for ram is cause they’re arm based?

[silk island]

it’s because they integrate it onto the SoC.

[harsh quartz]

“8gb on our system is 16 on any other”

[grim belfry]

To be fair, Windows OEMs often charge similar prices

[vapid smelt]

imagine if someone gets your computer and windows recall saved a screen shot of your password manager/wallet

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but you can just not buy through those oems, you have options

[grim belfry]

Apple and HP get too much hate

[harsh quartz]

No fuck Hp

[vapid smelt]

dell needs to get more hate

[grim belfry]

They're just as bad, if not worse than HP

[pliant lintel]

any know a good cheap GPU vertical mount that goes in the o11 dynamic evo?

[grim belfry]

zip ties

[harsh quartz]

I love how they got slapped for anti competitive practices with edge vs chrome, cause they can’t sell your chrome data, so they’ll just record everything you do in chrome through other means 🙂

[vapid smelt]

proprietary parts on desktop pcs smh

[harsh quartz]

Hp laptops and printers are fucking atrocious

[grim belfry]

HP Laptops are pretty good

HP laser printers are also fine

[silk island]

i just tried to spec out a similar framework laptop configuration and it costs more than the top-spec macbook pro apple sells in store

[harsh quartz]

Once you get past the 7 hour setup and the virulent disease that is all the shit they put on there, it might be a decent laptop

[grim belfry]

There's no bloat on Elitebooks

[harsh quartz]

That’s because framework is specialty and for rich people. I have NEVER said framework is well priced and I never will

[vapid smelt]

just factory reset any new laptop you get ez pz

https://frame.work/products/laptop-chromebook-12-gen-intel $999

[grim belfry]

They also use the same OOBE as any other laptop

[harsh quartz]

We got 3 new HP laptops today, I’m gonna have to reset 2 of them.

[harsh quartz]

They most definitely do not

[silk island]

and why the fuck does framework charge $51 CAD for an ETHERNET port?!

[cobalt seal]

do you guys have any idea about Lenovo G24-20 monitor and does it have significant ghosting

[grim belfry]

They do?

What models are they?

[harsh quartz]

Does your Mac even have an Ethernet port?

[silk island]

no, but i can get an ethernet dongle for less than what framework charges 💀

[cobalt seal]

.

[grim belfry]

Elitebooks come with a USBC to ethernet adapter 😈

[grim belfry]

rtings.com

[vapid smelt]

its ips so it shouldn't have horrible ghosting

[harsh quartz]

Cool, like I said, framework is not cheap. But your also paying 5k for a ma, so quite frankly, meh

[silk island]

and the macbook isn’t thick enough to have an ethernet port, plus ethernet ports on laptops aren’t as common anymore in general as they used to be

[grim belfry]

Ethernet is now quite niche for consumers yeah

[harsh quartz]

My legion has an Ethernet port :p

[silk island]

a mac with significantly better build quality than a framework, and more powerful than the highest end ryzen config framework offers

[harsh quartz]

It also has (Mac users beware) USB-a 🙂

[grim belfry]

So do elitebooks (for now)

[cobalt seal]

does the monitor have ghosting

[harsh quartz]

Cool. You seem to be REALLY fixated on framework.

No one brought up framework but you

[silk island]

dell and hp aren’t any better

neither is alienware or lenovo

[grim belfry]

Both Dell and HP laptops are much more repairable than people give them credit for

[vapid smelt]

you said dell twice

[silk island]

(though alienware is dell)

[vapid smelt]

yeah

[grim belfry]

The only annoying thing is LPDDR

[silk island]

and asus is just, no

[harsh quartz]

Also I would argue that Lenovo is definitely better than frameworks for price to performance

[vapid smelt]

can you upgrade the storage on your own on the macbook?

[silk island]

no, but i don’t use much storage anyways

[vapid smelt]

i sorta under stand the baking the ram on the soc but non upgradable storage is super fucking lame

[grim belfry]

Different tools for different use cases ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[harsh quartz]

My legion, from almost 2 years ago, was just shy of 1400$, had a 6800h and a 3070ti in it, 1440p 16:10 144hz screen, great battery life, wonderful IO. Framework isn’t even close to that value yet and I would argue a Mac isn’t either

[silk island]

you still have to deal with windows

[harsh quartz]

Or I can install Linux

[silk island]

and windows is my main reason why i’m moving to mac in the first place

[vapid smelt]

chrome book ez pz

[silk island]

no thanks

[harsh quartz]

But I use it as my work laptop, which requires windows anyways, so the OS is irrelevant in that case :p

[silk island]

macOS has a superior app ecosystem

it doesn’t have as many apps, of course, but the apps it does have, are better made than windows equivalents

[harsh quartz]

That’s not a better ecosystem

[silk island]

such as Pixelmator Pro, Final Cut, Logic Pro, etc

[vapid smelt]

apple is just to closed off for me to buy anything from them

[silk island]

how is it closed off?

[harsh quartz]

It’s literally known as the walled garden

[grim belfry]

I vote TempleOS

[harsh quartz]

BreadOS

[silk island]

i would argue there is no such thing as the walled garden

people choose to use iMessage and their other services

[harsh quartz]

Still waiting for steamOS

[vapid smelt]

pretty sure its out

[grim belfry]

https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown

[harsh quartz]

You don’t know that, because They don’t have an alternative.

[manic torrent]

not when you install linux

[vapid smelt]

i just pasted it when saw you post

[silk island]

um, what???? apple is adding RCS with iOS 18

[harsh quartz]

ITS NOT OUT

[grim belfry]

Exactly

[silk island]

i said “adding” not “added”

[harsh quartz]

you can’t say people have this option already when the option doesn’t even fucking exist yet

[vapid smelt]

install it on your old pc it meets the minimum specs it seems

[silk island]

take a chill pill

[grim belfry]

The only bloat installed is HP Support Assistant

[harsh quartz]

Stop lying

[silk island]

I said they are ADDING IT WITH IOS 18

I DIDNT SAY ADDED

[harsh quartz]

“People choose to use messenger”

[silk island]

i explicitly said adding because i know it’s not out

[harsh quartz]

No, they don’t have an option

[silk island]

yes, they do

[harsh quartz]

What is the alternative

[silk island]

people can use whatsapp, messenger, signal, telegram, literally anything else

[harsh quartz]

Yes. Because everyone that I know definitely had all those apps and doesn’t just prefer basic texting

[lilac bear]

you know Linus tried out Signal

you're in the LTT server

[harsh quartz]

Who’s Linus?

[silk island]

w a t

are you just baiting

[lilac bear]

"no"

[harsh quartz]

I guess a /s is needed?

[manic torrent]

he's something -bating

[harsh quartz]

Hey it’s 1am, like Luke said, gotta get that me time

[silk island]

okay except that’s you

800 million people use telegram alone

even more with regard to WA

[harsh quartz]

I highly doubt all of those are active users regularly texting all of their contacts through telegram

[silk island]

800 million MAUs

[calm swan]

is it not?

[silk island]

and ios 18 is technically out as a developer beta

[harsh quartz]

Beta is, but most people aren’t using that

[grim belfry]

I think that's very American

[harsh quartz]

Even then, it was released a week ago

[grim belfry]

tbh, I wish we were like that

[harsh quartz]

What’s very American?

[calm swan]

i have it, didn't know they included it in the update

[silk island]

but your argument that apple has a walled garden is null and void because from the very start people chose to use iMessage when it was first released back in 2011

[grim belfry]

Everybody uses Whatsapp or signal or messenger as such I need an app on my phone just for a fortnightly committee

[silk island]

everyone has a choice

[calm swan]

thought it would come out later

[harsh quartz]

No, that’s just the text messaging app for iPhone. That’s not an option, that’s just the app that’s given

[grim belfry]

Preferring to do things over the native messaging apps

[silk island]

oh and Google Messages isn’t just the app that’s given on the Android side?

[harsh quartz]

your the one that focused on iMessage as the example

[silk island]

Hell, other vendors can’t even implement Google’s version of RCS because they use proprietary extensions

so apple has to use the Universal Profile

[calm swan]

especially when x elite laptops have upgradeable storage (except the book edge which uses ufs for some stupid reason)

[silk island]

which lacks E2EE

apple is working with the GSMA to implement E2EE in the universal profile though

[harsh quartz]

It’s like S mode on windows. Fuck S mode on windows. Yes you do technically have app options, but they’re not good options

[vapid smelt]

i love apple wars

[silk island]

are you calling imessage bad

[harsh quartz]

I’m saying it didn’t work well when I had family members on Samsungs

[silk island]

you still had SMS

[harsh quartz]

That didn’t work half the fuckin time

[silk island]

um, what

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, they just wouldn’t get messages

[silk island]

i have friends with Android phones and SMS still worked fine

[harsh quartz]

Cool. Your experience is everyone’s

[grim belfry]

I mean you aren't forced to use the App Store to download apps on MacOS

[calm swan]

who buys framework anyways tho, it's known to have pretty shit value

7940hs + 7700s for $2200 yeah no. the only thing that's enticing about the frameworks is upgradeability

[harsh quartz]

And that’s fair, but I wouldn’t call it a “better ecosystem” either

[silk island]

it literally is

[grim belfry]

👍

It's just personal preference

[silk island]

Apple’s ecosystem is the only one that has true integration across all of their platforms from macOS to iPadOS

[grim belfry]

Realistically both operating systems will do exactly what 95% of users will need to do (Which ChromeOS could also probably do)

[silk island]

fuck you can even use your Mac on Vision Pro

[vapid smelt]

ipad os now has a calculator app

[silk island]

(vision pro is stupid expensive, but yeah, only trying to point out that Apple has a robust first party ecosystem)

[calm swan]

but for some reason it's hard to implement this on ios? mac apps have to be notarized anyways

[harsh quartz]

I mean the app ecosystem. I would not call macOS a better app ecosystem when it’s a gamble if any given app even has a Mac version, and if it’ll work on that version of Mac

[grim belfry]

You can install unsigned apps on MacOS, it's just discouraged

[lilac bear]

Pixel ecosystem on top!!

[restive lion]

windows has the same thing though, most good macos tools arent available on windows

[lilac bear]

https://tenor.com/view/google-ok-google-google-pixel-google-pixel-watch-2-google-pixel-8-gif-14535445306208049843

[silk island]

almost every windows app has a valid alternative

the only major app that doesn’t have a Mac app at this point is Solidworks because for some reason they refuse to port it to macOS when macOS has hundreds of millions of users

[harsh quartz]

I would be willing to bet that that’s a much lower amount of Mac apps that don’t have windows support, as opposed to windows apps that don’t have Mac support

[restive lion]

not really

[lilac bear]

bro is out here defending Windows

[manic torrent]

Because supporting Mac is a fucking cluster fuck

[calm swan]

but they won't implement it into ios :(

[silk island]

although solidworks doesn’t support Linux either

[restive lion]

omnigraffle, final cut, logic pro, lightkey, are all extremely powerful tools in my field specifically that arent available on windows

[harsh quartz]

I’ll defend the daily usability of windows as opposed to Mac, I will not defend Microsoft or the recent windows changes

[manic torrent]

Macs are a massive pain in the ass to manage and apple doesn't help.

[grim belfry]

you can install unsigned ipas on ios

[calm swan]

with a 7 day refresh yes

[grim belfry]

Jamf works great, but as soon as you're working with a mixed network it's a mess

[grim belfry]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silk island]

the 7 day refresh is only a thing if you have a free developer account

[calm swan]

i'm not paying $99 for something that android users don't have to do

[restive lion]

use an android then

[calm swan]

i'd rather just wait until apple allows full ipa installation

[manic torrent]

Yeah the thing is everything sucks, but when you want to support MacOS suddenly you have twice the suck

[restive lion]

they never will lol

[grim belfry]

Lmao

MacOS only networks are just magic, but good luck having a MacOS only network

[manic torrent]

Because supporting stuff is hard.

[restive lion]

yeah all the mac houses i work at are amazing

[silk island]

i disagree, you just have to learn how it works and apple has severely robust user guides for pretty much everything, including Apple Configurator. And with regard to Solidworks it’s not hard to port an app to Mac

[grim belfry]

[harsh quartz]

Maybe so, and that’s why macOS has a reputation as the creators computer, but he’ll, even things as simple as print drivers, which are fully Taken for granted on windows, just aren’t guaranteed to have a Mac version, and even then sometimes don’t work with the McOS version installed

[manic torrent]

All irrelevant. I'm talking about actual corporate support.

[silk island]

what specifically with regard to corporate support?

[restive lion]

omnigraffle and lightkey are certainly not creator tools

[pliant karma]

👀 hehe same then again I end up troubleshooting both ends and you know which other system I want to shoot everytime

[harsh quartz]

(Idk what those are but they sound artsy fartsy)

[manic torrent]

Compiling it for a different platform is not the issue at all. It's that you then have to have a whole QA and bugfix etc for it

[grim belfry]

What printers don't support MacOS?

[manic torrent]

Cheap consumer garbage

[restive lion]

omnigraffle is for stage plots and lightkey is for stage lighting

[grim belfry]

Yeah, papercut makes everything easy

[silk island]

most printers are natively supported on mac because apple explicitly builds in native drivers for them, and our Epson printer even supports AirPrint

[restive lion]

(unless creators spent thousands on stage lights ig?)

[silk island]

unless you have, like, a really cheap and unknown printer, macOS will likely have support for it

[restive lion]

idk none of my consumer garbage printers at home have ever not been able to receive prints from macos

[harsh quartz]

Some (maybe all? Idk?) Brothers just use AirPrint, and they don’t use it well. Konica minoltas have legacy drivers that work sometimes but, again, do not work well

[grim belfry]

User error

[pliant karma]

oh you see those videos of performers on stage kicking the lights off the stage. Hurts me everytime

[restive lion]

im inclined to agree ngl

[manic torrent]

Yeah I suspect it may have been a transitional issue with printers at one point they made them super fucking dumb and put too much software in the drivers.

[restive lion]

crime time

[grim belfry]

Do people use the stock Konica Minolta software?

[gleaming harbor]

can someone tell me the ps5 controller buttons in xbox terms

[silk island]

if i had to guess, you print over the network right?

[restive lion]

either way

[harsh quartz]

It’s not software package or anything, it’s just a driver

[silk island]

our epson supports both airprint and general network printing over wifi

[restive lion]

usually over net though

airprint is only really useful for ios

[grim belfry]

I meant you don't use mobility print or uniflow?

[silk island]

true

but yeah if your printer supports any common network printing protocol it’s almost guaranteed that macos will be able to print using it

[harsh quartz]

Not really a need to set up 3 people with a printer server, when the windows machines can print directly, and there’s just 2 Mac’s that are fuckin up

[restive lion]

ngl i had better luck with my mac than the windows laptop work gave me when working with a "professional" printer

[silk island]

it supports AirPrint, HP Jetdirect, LPD, and IPP

(why the fuck does hp have its own printer protocol)

[grim belfry]

Because it makes it easier

[harsh quartz]

Because fuck HP printers

[grim belfry]

Windows, MacOS and Linux support it natively, and it works with decades of printers

[silk island]

but yeah if your given printer supports any of those listed protocols, there’s no reason it shouldn’t work on Mac

apple doesn’t have a compatibility list for printers connected over USB though, although i think that’s going out of fashion in favor of just printing over the network

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but just cause it’s technically supported doesn’t mean it works well. And when it has issues, there’s no options to change, nothing to troubleshoot, it’s just “oh, airprint doesn’t like this one particular website I guess”

[grim belfry]

Most cheap consumer garbage printers don't even have USB anymore

[silk island]

what do you mean by “doesn’t mean it works well”

[harsh quartz]

I mean sometimes it’ll print, sometimes it won’t, sometimes it’ll sit there for 5 minutes before doing anything , sometimes it’ll sit there for 15

And on windows, you can change the printer configuration to figure out what’s wrong, on apple it’s just “oh, the AirPrint doesn’t like this website, but it’s fine on the others”

[silk island]

heh

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, printing preferences, that doesn’t change anything about this though

[silk island]

much ink

[silk island]

macos does have printing options though

[covert cradle]

I highly doubt that. I've got the cheapest garbage consumer model from HP and it still has USB. USB 2.0 is an extremely cheap thing to implement

[harsh quartz]

Aight, show me where I can change the protocol used for a brother printer connected to a Mac?

[manic torrent]

to be fair that goes wayyyyyyyyy back

[lilac bear]

because it's HP

printers suck ink and you will endure it

[harsh quartz]

Buy a toner printer and use it twice a year

[manic torrent]

no, it's because it's literally decades old

[silk island]

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/mac-help/mh14004/14.0/mac/14.0

and you can iirc change the protocol for an already discovered printer via the cups webui since macos uses CUPS under the hood

[harsh quartz]

I know how to add a printer to a Mac, I promise, and I know how to install drivers, and I’m usually pretty good at getting things going even when I’m not familiar with them. But that doesn’t help when this is the only answer

“We don’t make drivers, if AirPrint doesn’t work, fuck off”

[silk island]

holy shit i found apple’s compatibility list for printers https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201311

[covert cradle]

Probably older than most people here lmao. From 1991 apparently

[lilac bear]

and?

[manic torrent]

http://www.csgnetwork.com/hppclhist.html

The first printer in HP's LaserJet series, the HP LaserJet was released in 1984 with the PCL 3 version of the language.

[silk island]

AirPrint uses IPP under the hood by the way

so it already uses the most common protocol

[lilac bear]

at least you actually posted a link

just saying "oh because it's always been like that" doesn't mean HP doesn't suck

[manic torrent]

oh HP sucks

[harsh quartz]

That literally doesn’t matter. I need options, which I don’t have on Mac because the software developer said fuck it we don’t support Mac

[covert cradle]

That's the age of LaserJet, but jetdirect didn't arrive until the LaserJet IIIsi. I'm just reading off Wikipedia lol

[manic torrent]

jetdirect is just PCL on IP though

[silk island]

okay then get a printer that does?

[harsh quartz]

Yeah it sure would be a shame if that wasn’t my call to make

[silk island]

although our ET-2850 has literally no issues with AirPrint

[lilac bear]

skill issue for not complaining to management

[harsh quartz]

And as I’ve said, most things are fine, but there is one specific website that doesn’t work well. And there’s nothing we can do about it. It works fine on other printers.

[silk island]

what website???

[lilac bear]

the website

[silk island]

and what exactly goes wrong when trying to print content from it

[lilac bear]

god you need to be brought up to speed

everyone heres knows about the website

[harsh quartz]

It’s a website one of our clients uses, I don’t remember what it is, just that I had to try to get it to work. And I’ve already said what it does. That’s not the important part here, the important part is that there fuck all I can do to troubleshoot it

[lilac bear]

how much of a rock you live under for not knowing about the website

[silk island]

and you’re blaming apple for this instead of the printer vendor????

[harsh quartz]

NO

IM NOT

[lilac bear]

that was your whole case dude

[harsh quartz]

oh my god we’ve gotten so far away from the original point.

[lilac bear]

apple bad HP good

a lot of people here seem to be struggling to know what the website is

[harsh quartz]

No, the original case was that software support was better on windows than Mac because developers, in my experience, will sometimes just not have a Mac version

[harsh quartz]

No, both are bad

[silk island]

i just don’t understand how a printer can break with a very specific website

[lilac bear]

the website

[harsh quartz]

Fuck if I know, and if it was windows maybe I could do something about it, but it’s air print, so there’s literally nothing

[silk island]

does the printer support USB

[lilac bear]

I've been saying it

THE WEBSITE

[grim belfry]

Cheapo epson inktank printers don't have usb anymore :)

[lilac bear]

oh my god do you guys not know what the website is

[silk island]

okay respectfully please stop

[harsh quartz]

Yes, tried that, same result, because it won’t print through the usb, it just uses USB to establish the AirPrint link and then uses that. Because they didn’t feel like supporting MacOS

[covert cradle]

I'm only doubting that it's most

[lilac bear]

it's a simple google search to figure out what the website is

[silk island]

with AirPrint they do support macOS lol

that’s the whole point, to not have to build a niche driver for it because AirPrint works with literally any Apple OS that supports printing

[near nymph]

HP is a dirt bag company to work with... Lol

[harsh quartz]

….aight I’m out this is clearly gone nowhere fast and you ain’t understanding

[lilac bear]

she needs to know about the website

I've said this countless times

[grim belfry]

🥹

I mean, the printer works perfectly fine without an Instant Ink subscription

[silk island]

look, the issue only happens with a very specific website, maybe the website just doesn’t like being printed from

[near nymph]

I'm trying to work with them 😂

[grim belfry]

Print as a service has been a thing since the dawn of time

[lilac bear]

theres multiple??

[grim belfry]

HP All in One Plan

[full fossil]

printers are just tech demons

[lilac bear]

oh no

[harsh quartz]

Except it prints fine on any device that has a functional driver. Like I said, you’re not understanding this so I’m out. Peace

[lilac bear]

yeah she needs to understand what the website is

[silk island]

drivers aren’t necessary

and brothers not going to bother supporting both AirPrint and a dedicated driver on macOS

[lilac bear]

I assume everyone here knows what the website is

very easy to access

[grim belfry]

HP has been doing device as a service for years, and print as a service has existed for even longer

[lilac bear]

been around for decades

it is a website of all time

[silk island]

i understand it fine, fyi

[harsh quartz]

My guy can you stop pinging

[grim belfry]

Yep, but you can still do it the old fashioned way if you don't like subscriptions

[silk island]

what exactly am i not understanding lmfao

[grim belfry]

Print as a service has been around for decades, it's nothing new

[lilac bear]

she is the problem, not me

she needs to understand the website

[harsh quartz]

You can fuck off too

[silk island]

why are you so mad over a single printer not having a macOS driver

AirPrint was created to explicitly not have to develop legacy drivers for printers as it allows for easier compatibility

[lilac bear]

sounds like you also need to check out the website

[harsh quartz]

Jesus fuckin Christ can it be dropped holy shit

[lilac bear]

everyone knows about the website

[grim belfry]

Sure, it's insane for you, but people have been using and enjoying similar services for ages

[silk island]

no. because your point with regard to better windows support isn’t valid lol

[lilac bear]

I think you would be more calm if you visited the website

[harsh quartz]

My bad, apple is perfect and AirPrint is perfect and there’s no need for any customizability or troubleshooting methods. Everything needs to be locked down and if it doesn’t work that’s okay too. See? Now we agree, so it can be dropped 🙂

[lilac bear]

again just please visit the website

it will fix your problems

[silk island]

you can change the protocol the printer uses for AirPrint from the printer web user interface, by the way

[harsh quartz]

Except the printer ONLY SUPPORTS AIRPRINT

Jfc you have got to be dented or something

[silk island]

read what i said again

[harsh quartz]

How can I change what protocol it’s using, if it doesn’t support any other protocol

[silk island]

no idea what port9100 is but this is what is shows me

[grim belfry]

I know plenty of individuals who are on very similar services from other businesses. Just because it doesn't make sense for you, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense for someone else

[harsh quartz]

I really would love to

[harsh quartz]

THATS AN EPSON

[lilac bear]

visit the website

bro just check out the website

[silk island]

please stop you’re being insanely annoying

[harsh quartz]

I’m just so flabbergasted that you will 1) not take in any of what I’ve said or 2) drop the fucking conversation so I can go to sleep. Please just pick one or the other so I can move on

[lilac bear]

hey if all you did was know about the website this would all be solved

[grim belfry]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sacred surge]

Yall think the newegg clearance section is legit cuz the products be mad cheap

Sketchy

[lilac bear]

I think if everyone went onto the website we would all be happy

[silk island]

dude stop

[grim belfry]

I just saw a video on Facebook of a kid being forced to make a public apology lmao

[harsh quartz]

Meanwhile the amount of people that buy a 200$ printer, print twice, and then the ink dries out before they print again

[lilac bear]

impressive sleeping you're doing

typing with your eyes closed

[harsh quartz]

Who pissed in your cheerios this morning

[smoky badge]

I did

[grim belfry]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lilac bear]

[harsh quartz]

Can you not do that again

[smoky badge]

He deserves it

[harsh quartz]

He does but then we end up with this shit

[lilac bear]

you two need to visit the website

[grim belfry]

lmao

[harsh quartz]

Kek

[silk island]

consider it dropped but windows doesn’t really have better printer support which was your whole point and i don’t really consider it to be valid over one website not working over airprint. yes it sucks that brother doesn’t have a fallback macOS driver to avoid using airprint but it doesn’t make windows’ printer support any better

[grim belfry]

plus the subscription gets you scanning, and staying at home

[silk island]

anyways now i’m done.

[harsh quartz]

Just use the 2 AM excuse

[smoky badge]

Only one week Okay

[lilac bear]

do you work at blizzard by any chance

[harsh quartz]

If you really need a scanner that bad, just buy a scanner

[silk island]

the subscription is still insanely stupid

[harsh quartz]

And I’m surprised scamming scanning isn’t an extra charge

[silk island]

you’re not stupid lol

[silk island]

fuck i get 50 pages of printing for free through my local library, 25 if you print in color

[lilac bear]

hey we don't need to resort to vulgar language such as this

if you visited the website you would have known

[silk island]

DUDE QUIT IT.

[grim belfry]

Australia. And FYI, I would assume that the All-In plan is $6.99AUD, as the Instant ink plans are 1USD = 1AUD

[harsh quartz]

Ahh, fake dollars

So that 15 is closer to like 9

[grim belfry]

Even after conversion the subscription is still cheaper

[grim belfry]

$10

[lilac bear]

10

[silk island]

also how did my conversation about me getting excited to be getting a macbook turn into a discussion about printers in the first place

[harsh quartz]

Yes but only if your doing it every month, if it’s a one time print, it’s worth your time to just get it done once there and be done

[lilac bear]

the website

[grim belfry]

Absolutely

[lilac bear]

kinda unironically though

[silk island]

dude i swear to god if you don’t pipe down i will banish you to the 7 depths of hell

[harsh quartz]

And Tbf, if your doing it every month, just get a printer

[manic torrent]

Ever had a conversation before?

[restive lion]

no, enlighten me

[silk island]

lmfao

[silk island]

…yes?

[smoky badge]

[lilac bear]

yeah but Polar brought it up because it's something that pertains to his printing and experience with apple

[manic torrent]

And the topic never shifted?

[lilac bear]

it's always a gremlins reference

[harsh quartz]

No, it was a rebuttals against software support being better on Mac, but since your just shitposting you probably didn’t give 2 shits about reading the conversation

[manic torrent]

I mean don't get me wrong, riverence is very irritating but the conversation is perfectly normal

[grim belfry]

[silk island]

i don’t really consider printer drivers to be software

[lilac bear]

I actually read it because guess whats thats what A CONVERSATION is

[harsh quartz]

Benadryl

[manic torrent]

Lol that is a terrible take

[smoky badge]

Is that my juice?

[silk island]

well, not the kind of software we were specifically talking about anyways

[harsh quartz]

As someone who has to set printers up every day, it definitely is. You just don’t think about it because out of sight out of mind

[grim belfry]

Sowwy

[silk island]

we were talking about apps

and a driver isn’t an app

[harsh quartz]

No but it is still software support

[grim belfry]

I do not HP Envy you

[lilac bear]

if you visited the website you would know about this

[manic torrent]

I mean, I'm glad you are happy and Macs are great, but the complexities of why certain software supports XYZ is generally much more complex than purely technical limitations.

[harsh quartz]

Happy ten year anniversary to that weird story of a kid killing his brother over flappy bird

[silk island]

except the printer still supports airprint which is an apple-exclusive protocol

regardless as to its bugs with that printer

[harsh quartz]

Cool, and I don’t give 2 flying fucks, I am WELL beyond that point

[lilac bear]

you should visit the website

[silk island]

dude are you just trying to get blocked

[harsh quartz]

I was also joking but it probably was a bit dark

[lilac bear]

hey that wasn't meant for you

okay

[silk island]

“foxxy.boi”

is that for foxxy?

[harsh quartz]

ngl making notes on users is kinda strange

[lilac bear]

you put transphobic because you got upset when I used "guy" as gender neutral

[silk island]

to be fair not everyone likes being called guy even if used in a gender neutral context

[manic torrent]

I doubt it, it's probably because you reacted poorly when asked not to 😄

[lilac bear]

well they made it gender specific and got upset off that and not that I used guy

I stopped using guy

[silk island]

i have far too many people i have blocked to make a note for all of them

[restive lion]

too bad discord randomly deletes them

[silk island]

i think i have like 110 ppl blocked

[vapid smelt]

i thought it was normal

[restive lion]

it happens quite often

[manic torrent]

I have one person blocked, and they are banned now, so winrar.exe

[harsh quartz]

Who out here making notes on people?

[lilac bear]

yeah you should take notes

[harsh quartz]

Dimskii?

[manic torrent]

how else are you supposed to keep track of who is an idiot and why

[restive lion]

yeeaahhhhhh...

[silk island]

JESUS CHRIST

[manic torrent]

yes 🙂

[silk island]

and i thought i had a lot of blocked people

[harsh quartz]

I don’t have to, the idiots will make themselves well known every time

[harsh quartz]

Oh, yeah that was my one blocked too, didn’t know they got banned, cool

[lilac bear]

yeah if people visited the website that would solve a lot of problems

yo shout out to me

[restive lion]

ive had to clear it out cuz i hit the relationship limit

fun times

[silk island]

i’m just going to say this: i consider a lack of software support to be something akin to not having support at all. if something doesn’t have a driver, but still works on macOS, i still consider that to be software support

[lilac bear]

I wonder how many block boxes people see here

[harsh quartz]

Bruh, can we just leave it, holy hell

[lilac bear]

yeah you both need to visit the website

[silk island]

why is toplime just leaving reactions

[lilac bear]

he's eating popcorn

[harsh quartz]

Is this humorous?

[grim belfry]

I actually am

[harsh quartz]

Like, good popcorn? Or microwaved

[lilac bear]

the website would explain it if you checked it out

[silk island]

sorry. consider it dropped

[grim belfry]

DIY cinnamon sugar

[silk island]

DUDE SHUT UP

[harsh quartz]

Oh nice. Any popcorns acceptable other than microwaved 🙂

[grim belfry]

Delicious

[lilac bear]

you just upset that I am trying to respect your pronouns

[manic torrent]

it's ok because its' the internet

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but you know how it goes

[restive lion]

i am going to go microwave some popcorn now

[harsh quartz]

Your loss

[restive lion]

true

[lilac bear]

yeah some people need to admit whenever they're wrong

[harsh quartz]

Kek

[restive lion]

i have a video on standby for whenever the brits come around with their "tea must come from the kettle" bs

[silk island]

foxxy is obnoxious in the apple server too so i didn’t expect their behavior to change from there to here

[restive lion]

(its me putting a cup of water in a toaster oven)

[harsh quartz]

Plus it’s 2AM here, they probably ain’t even awake

[silk island]

why doesn’t this server have more mods

[restive lion]

oh. oh no.

[grim belfry]

[harsh quartz]

I just microwave my water :p

[vapid smelt]

we scare them away

[silk island]

for a server of 140k people only having 3 mods is absurd

[grim belfry]

Tbh I think the moderation here is pretty good

[restive lion]

yeah but they get so mad when you put it in the toaster oven

[smoky badge]

Hi coopa

[harsh quartz]

Is this… whipped tea? Tea cream? wtf is this

[silk island]

both

[harsh quartz]

They get pretty mad about the microwave too

[manic torrent]

it is a curse to all who gaze upon it

[lilac bear]

but why

[grim belfry]

I mean boiling water is boiling water

[restive lion]

not to the british

[harsh quartz]

“But it can super heat the water and burn you” yeah that’s why I don’t stick my hand in it

[manic torrent]

Americans just don't believe in kettles, because things that draw full power out of their terrible wiring burn the house down

[restive lion]

super heat the water above boiling

[harsh quartz]

I would like to have a stovetop kettle but we don’t have room to store it, and the microwave is right there

[lilac bear]

must live in new york

[native vault]

hi, i got a thrustmaster ferrari 458 spyder steering wheel and its only compatible for Xbox but i know theres a software called xboxwheelcompatibility. its latest version is 1.2.1, but when i download and scan it with virustotal it gives me a virus flag

[restive lion]

i just dont drink tea problem solved

[manic torrent]

you store the kettle ON the stove, because you drink tea 24/7

[silk island]

jesus. is this really what the mods do? shouldn’t lmg be preventing that?

[harsh quartz]

I switched to tea over coffee, I feel better, more hydrated at least

[restive lion]

i stick to water and whatever juice i happen to find in the fridge

[lilac bear]

sounds like you'd want to be a mod

[harsh quartz]

Heh, no, the only thing there is that weird little spoon holder for some reason I still don’t understand

[harsh quartz]

Juice makes me incredibly sick if I drink a lot. I think it’s an acid problem. I’m too cheap to go to the doctor tho

[lilac bear]

all I learned tonight was that printers are evil

[covert cradle]

You learned that tonight?

[lilac bear]

I'm trying to make it look good

[covert cradle]

Yikes

Report to the accused so they can sue if necessary, ig

[manic torrent]

yeah that's not helpful in any way

[covert cradle]

What?

[covert cradle]

If someone "publicly outed" you, you wouldn't want to be told?

Ah

[cobalt seal]

what do you mean by 40 percent ghosting in monitor

[cobalt seal]

is it good enough

[manic torrent]

Finally... After many times, I have compressed air in my makerspace with the compressor in the shed.

[grim belfry]

Sweet silence

[manic torrent]

Silence is not quite right but certainly much less noise - also it's on a wifi switch connected to home assistant so I can turn it on/off from inside

Which means that if I need to clean some stuff up with some compressed air, it's ezpz, not a whole thing.

[grim belfry]

~~I just use liquid hydrocarbons ~~

[remote jetty]

I recomend you this gpt is the best gpt in tech https://chatgpt.com/g/g-csyGt2OHb-tech-gpt

it has been releasen

[full fossil]

keep a loaded firearm next to your bedside table incase it makes a strange noise

[neat gull]

Anyone know if there is a way to surf old versions of tor browser? Specifically before October of 2013

[covert cradle]

Are you asking about access to old and dead onion sites? I'm not aware of an Internet archive equivalent for .onion, though maybe it does exist. You don't want to be using an outdated Tor browser itself, that's just asking for problems.

[manic torrent]

.... Try that again. And I think the answer is no.

[neat gull]

I’m just asking here Bob

[manic torrent]

You aren't "just" asking - your question doesn't make sense.