public-chat

[craggy rose]

So you won

:>

[strange elk]

P much, yeah

[craggy rose]

Heh

[strange elk]

But then switch 2, and idk if they are adding Denuvo to carts now

Decent problem for archivers

[craggy rose]

Just buy an Epson

The canon printers are nice too

[strange elk]

Brother seems to be the right choice for me

[craggy rose]

It's a company?

[strange elk]

I dont really trust the other brands at all. And the software is just bloat.

[craggy rose]

Brother

[strange elk]

Yea

[craggy rose]

Never heard of it

[craggy rose]

Well, we can't really trust anything nowadays

[strange elk]

Also unless you need color, laser > inkjet

[craggy rose]

Inkjet is nice

Decently fast and simple

[strange elk]

Ain't that the truth. I'm kinda on a kick rn where I'm replacing Microsoft products in windows with open source alternatives. Because I need windows for some things, but I dont need all the software, or have better options

Laser just lasts longer

[craggy rose]

Average Linux user

Kidding

[strange elk]

not a recommendation, just saw 33 pages per minute, over 30 a month, funny to me

[strange elk]

Hey at least I can vet the code, or have countless others do it for me

[craggy rose]

But I see your point, and it being open source you can just find someone on GitHub that did a nice update and boom

[craggy rose]

🤠

Heh

[craggy rose]

That's one beefy printer

[craggy rose]

Over 30 a month?

[mortal kraken]

My home printer can do like 3 or something even worse with good quality. Then my stationary printer can do 85ppm. Seeing that thing run everytime is so mesmerizing

[strange elk]

Instead of

[craggy rose]

Wait, you can just print 30 pages a month?

[strange elk]

With HP?

[craggy rose]

What

[craggy rose]

Yeah

[mortal kraken]

The monthly crap is HPs instant ink subscription yes

[dreamy prism]

Hi

[craggy rose]

That sounds illegal

[mortal kraken]

ppm is like speed measurement lol how fast can it pump out pages

[mortal kraken]

Absolutely not it's called HP being HP

[craggy rose]

O_o

[strange elk]

Well, HP is doing it so.. Idk sounds more like we need to crimp down the "free" market a bit

[mortal kraken]

That's why people call them evil :D which it is

[craggy rose]

My god

Why people keep buying them

[strange elk]

Y'all really don't realize how bad it is lmao

[strange elk]

Because brand recognition

[craggy rose]

Now I understood

[strange elk]

Nobody recognizes Brother so why get an expensive printer from them when you can get a cheap one from HP

This is the tradeoff

[mortal kraken]

I remember when we bought our last printer the salesmen was dying to get us to buy a HP

You can go to any general IT guy and they'd tell you to stay away from hp 😁

[craggy rose]

,_,

[strange elk]

Oh yeah and the other leeeetle tiny detail where they charge you even if your printer is offline, and you cant print with it offline either.

[craggy rose]

I can't believe that this is how HP printers work

I can't

[mortal kraken]

Let's not forget if you cancel the subscription they say you throw the cartridges even if it has ink (yes, it's part of the agreemt anyways)

[strange elk]

And the printer cannot be used normally ever again if you use a subscription but didn't before

[craggy rose]

That is borderline scam

[mortal kraken]

Some people made posts on Reddit and fired some rage

Everyone Hated HP there. Not one person was defending them in miles

[strange elk]

I dont even care about printers, but I will fight HP tooth and nail about this

They are the sole reason why I know about them

[neon mesa]

Does canon printers do the same shit

[craggy rose]

🐥

[neon mesa]

or is buying canon inkjets less problematic

i want laser but i think i'd print images more often than text

[fierce moth]

brother printers ftw

or old ass printers

[strange elk]

I dont think so? But I'd still recommend Brother over them simply because of the amount of bloatware they ship

[craggy rose]

I know that Epson have some good options

And they don't literally scam you

[strange elk]

Also a windows update forced the install of the Microsoft app for HP printers.

[craggy rose]

🦇

[strange elk]

Which idk what's up with that but oh my god I was so pissed

[fierce moth]

well

if you dont like bloatware

[craggy rose]

Imagine how much money they are paying Microsoft

[fierce moth]

use cups lmao

[strange elk]

Cups?

[craggy rose]

Just paint

[fierce moth]

https://www.cups.org/

open source software for managing printers

[strange elk]

Oh neat. I'd probably use Linux anyway considering they have drivers built in for that sort of thing however

Which is a huge benefit

[craggy rose]

Unbelievable how the open source community do what mega comparations don't

[strange elk]

Its almost like people care about the products they use on a day to day, and just want them to function

[fierce moth]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/CUPS
heres the archwiki article if you're interested

[craggy rose]

Lol

[neon mesa]

i'll look at their printers

definitely not gonna touch HP
i had one and it's shit as fuck for ink

so bad that i straight up left it at my old place when moving

[craggy rose]

Look for those brother printers too

People seem to like them

[craggy rose]

Bruah

[north escarp]

[strange elk]

Like bro you do one thing. Put digital writing on paper 1:1

It CANNOT be that difficult

Additionally on the ones that have scanners, I think those get kneecapped too in some way

I know my canon works to scan with no ink at least

[craggy rose]

you have to replace the scanner fluid
Hp

Wich is funny because their laptops are decent, it's just the printers that have those really messed up business practices

The HP printer division

[strange elk]

Ehh a lot of their laptops are shit too

[craggy rose]

They are?

._.

[strange elk]

Ewaste at best

[craggy rose]

Oh god

[strange elk]

They do make some good laptops but some have no reason to exist. But thats kinda the thing with most manufacturers

[craggy rose]

I mean, I've used some HP laptops and they were decent

[strange elk]

Some have soldered on memory though which is a no-no.

[craggy rose]

O_o

Why everyone copies apple

[strange elk]

Unless you are going for the ultra slim, but apple does it on all of their shit

[craggy rose]

And copy just the shit things

[jade lantern]

My hp victus is nice but I don't think I would buy it new at the price

[craggy rose]

Yeah lol

[strange elk]

From a right to repair standpoint its just atrocious

[craggy rose]

Well, if they do sell the chips I think it's fine

Wich I sincerely doubt

But yeah

[strange elk]

Who's gonna repair it even if they did?

Nah, that ain't the way

Its cheaper to get a new one at that point a lot of the time

Which is the point for them to make more money

[craggy rose]

I would love to laptops just come with a CPU socket ram slot

But sometimes it's just impossible

The technicians can still replace it all if they have access to the ics and chips

[strange elk]

Apple will sooner offer a replacement. They refuse to fix that stuff, and its expensive even if you find someone capable

[craggy rose]

It would be so cool if everything was just a bread board with components there

[strange elk]

Go back to the 80s, a lot of PCs were just motherboards with expansion slots.

[craggy rose]

Apple is funny

They are like, hey look we offered replacement chips

A single ram chip is 300 dollars

[strange elk]

They do the bare minimum to try to stay out of view of EU law.

[craggy rose]

It's a bargain

[strange elk]

Any loopholes that exist they will find and use

[craggy rose]

Pretty much

It's so funny

[strange elk]

Like it would probably be better to do it the way everyone expects. But instead we've got USB C iphones running at 2.0 speeds

[craggy rose]

that was so weird

[strange elk]

Still touted as a feature

Even tho they are 8 years behind

EVEN THOUGH every other product line they have has C.

[craggy rose]

Usb 2 exist since the 2000s right?

[strange elk]

Aside from airpods obviously.

[strange elk]

Circa 2005 yeah I think so

[craggy rose]

Bruah

[strange elk]

I was referring to USB C itself though, started hitting mainstream in 2016

[craggy rose]

Even iPads

[craggy rose]

Oh yeah

But why ship with USB 2 speeds

[strange elk]

The CPU literally wasnt capable

[craggy rose]

I don't think that any other phone with USB c has USB 2

Even those early ones

[craggy rose]

Lool

[strange elk]

Not joking, the instruction set literally didn't support it

[craggy rose]

_ we can play resident evil village on a phone _

But still is incapable of transferring files at a decent speed

[craggy rose]

I can't believe

It would be even more messed up if they had support

[shut lichen]

...because they made it that way on purpose

[full fossil]

Bread

[muted tusk]

you'd be surprised just how many android phones use type C and still are rated for 2.0

[craggy rose]

I didn't know

[muted tusk]

so it was funny seeing iPhone users freak out base 15 was still 2.0

[craggy rose]

Wich ones?

[strange elk]

They were dead set on lightning. Theyve always made their own chips so why support 3.0 if they dont need to?

[muted tusk]

most non-flagships

[craggy rose]

Oh

[shut lichen]

they had usb 3.0 with lightning

on the ipad pro

IN 2015

[muted tusk]

OnePlus 12R is 2.0

Galaxy A54

[strange elk]

Oh well I stand corrected then

Wow thats.. A really weird and stupid decision

Think different™️

[craggy rose]

That's kinda expected for a 300 dollar phone

Not a 1000 dollar iphone 15 plus

[craggy rose]

Lol

[muted tusk]

you do know the base and plus share the same chipset....

[craggy rose]

Yeah?

[muted tusk]

oh sorry Im in public chat

[craggy rose]

I said something wrong?

._

[muted tusk]

ah yes baiting because you're biased

[carmine stirrup]

I've hit top 200 in the LTT folding@home team!

Top 100 here I come 😄

[craggy rose]

Biased

Could you explain why is that, I am willing to be wrong here

Don't worry, I am incapable of getting mad

[muted tusk]

got to love chum

very tasty

[craggy rose]

Wot

._.

[muted tusk]

saying "Apple expensive" is like saying the sky is blue

[craggy rose]

Well yeah?

I don't quite see your point

I'm sorry

[left venture]

it wasnt always that way

[craggy rose]

Why was I biased, I'm sorry I didn't get it

[left venture]

iphone 7 wasnt that expensive like 500 bucks

[left venture]

iphone X 999 year after

[strange elk]

Still on old iPhone SE, no new minis

pain

[left venture]

get the se 2022

[strange elk]

Its old

And doesnt have USB C

[craggy rose]

There are better options

[muted tusk]

lol Pixel 7 is 500 unless you buy it second hand or on sale

[left venture]

its barely 2 years old lol

[left venture]

like iphone 12 ?

pixel is pretty cope

[craggy rose]

But if you really need iOS I guess it's the only option

[left venture]

yeah comparing flagship of the time vs the most .....yeah..phone of like 7 years later

[craggy rose]

Like a Zenfone 11/10?

[left venture]

a what

[craggy rose]

Sorry

The 11 still didn't got released

[craggy rose]

It's a small but still capable phone

I should say, compact

[left venture]

having used a phone i had for a while, like its 6 years old or something, iphones got more expensive now lol

but i still wouldnt switch to android, feels like im downgrading

[craggy rose]

That's the thing

[left venture]

idk not like downgrade, just feels like youre forced to buy something else, feels kinda cope

[craggy rose]

If you are already on apple ecosystem it's almost impossible to consider anything else

[left venture]

i mean i have an apple watch and ipad

[craggy rose]

Yeah

[left venture]

but thats about it

i dont really have like homepod, imac etc

[left venture]

and one of those apple tv boxes

i guess its still part of the eco system

[craggy rose]

It is

And that is their strategy

Because there is a lot of competition and phones, laptops, (except tablets) that are really good

But you won't consider them because you are locked on the ecosystem

[night heron]

apple tv is goated

the newest model has the same processor as the iphone 13 pro max

[craggy rose]

And that means, you could play 8k HDR videos?

And movies

[night heron]

if they were available yeah easily

[craggy rose]

Well, that's great

[prime solstice]

I just use a raspberry pi 3 and I plan on getting a pi 4 soon and that’s my media player

[fierce moth]

8k is silly

[night heron]

8k makes sense if you sit close to a big tv

but there is no relevant 8k media yet

[fierce moth]

so why waste the money lmao

[left venture]

or if you have an 8k tv LOL

most people dont probably

[graceful burrow]

I should start playing old ass games at 8k internal res for no reason

[prime solstice]

I can’t really tell the difference between 1080p and 4k

[fierce moth]

curse you

[craggy rose]

It does have earc right?

[fierce moth]

i am shaking my fist in spite

[jade lantern]

im shaking in my boots

[graceful burrow]

I goy a whole ass 3090 I'm gonna use a whole ass 3090

[fierce moth]

its so silly tho

[craggy rose]

Play Minecraft with ray tracing

[fierce moth]

considering the textures arent even 720p in most older games

[graceful burrow]

Why would i play Minecraft at 720p

[craggy rose]

Hah

It's funny how heavy is the implementation on Minecraft

[left venture]

imagine thinking u need 720p res to play minecraft rtx

people been playing it on 2060s lmaoo

[night heron]

yah

[night heron]

you should because it looks great

[craggy rose]

I don't think so

I'm sorry

[left venture]

i remember it, rtx 2060 works

but like 60 fps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD0nHDb5_bE&pp=ygUWbWluZWNyYWZ0IHJ0eCAyMDYwIHJ0eA%3D%3D

bruh no embed

[craggy rose]

At 40 fps

[left venture]

60+

[craggy rose]

Sure

[craggy rose]

Hmmm

[fierce moth]

ngl

i have no use for RTX

[craggy rose]

Tom's hardware is lying 🤥

[left venture]

but depends on what shaders u use

[fierce moth]

solid gameplay is the only important thing to me

[left venture]

theres some that can get a 7900xtx on 30 fps

[fierce moth]

and a good story if its an rpg

[graceful burrow]

If I wanted over-bloomed out graphics on my screen I'd hook up my 360 and play any game from 2006 to 2013 on the console

[craggy rose]

I'm talking about the bedrock implementation

[graceful burrow]

Probably have more fun, too

[left venture]

bedrock?

[craggy rose]

Yeah

[left venture]

i havent played minecraft in a while im a bit behind 💀

[graceful burrow]

A bit?

[left venture]

wasnt bedrock the console version

[graceful burrow]

Is now

[fierce moth]

bedrock edition is console + mobile

[craggy rose]

Not exactly

[graceful burrow]

And a pc version

[fierce moth]

and MS store

[graceful burrow]

And the mobile version

[prime solstice]

Bedrock is console and mobile and windows 10 edition

[graceful burrow]

The ps4 doesn't run bedrock kek

[left venture]

yeah back then pc bedrock didnt exist. actually i think the windows 10 store minecraft mightve been bedrock

[craggy rose]

Bruah

[prime solstice]

It does

[fierce moth]

its an offshoot

slower updates iirc

[left venture]

yeah win 10 store minecraft was bedrock

[graceful burrow]

If I can't crossplay it with switch it isn't bedrock

[hot tartan]

I think you can now

[graceful burrow]

It's some bastardized version

[tired glade]

Bedrock is Microsoft rewrite of Minecraft

[graceful burrow]

They finally updated it?

[left venture]

mhm

[prime solstice]

My friend who is a ps4 player plays with me on pc and my friends who are on switch all the time

[graceful burrow]

Glad they updated it
Took way too long kek

[hot tartan]

Yeah think so? I’ve been able to do crossplay and those official servers on it

[craggy rose]

I think it is because of directX

[tired glade]

Bedrock primary made for non pc platforms

[graceful burrow]

I wish bedrock was the version most pc players used so it had better mod support and such
It runs so much better than the Java version

[fierce moth]

i remember the 360 version getting mc updates for the longest time

i think upto java version 1.13

[prime solstice]

I still play that version

[graceful burrow]

Why

[prime solstice]

Because I have a Xbox 360

[graceful burrow]

Probably runs better on switch and modern phones kek

[prime solstice]

The only modern console I have is a switch

[hot tartan]

Bedrock to me just feels clunky and slow, even if it runs fine

[graceful burrow]

If I'm playing alone I play bedrock

I run a modded Java server for me and some buds on my nas

[prime solstice]

It still can play Fortnite compared to any iPhone

[hot tartan]

I’m setting up a modded server soon, just need the time to do it

[graceful burrow]

It hasn't gotten a proper updated hardware revision that adds performance if that's what you're asking

[fierce moth]

i might spin up my mc server again

[hot tartan]

I think they changed it, but bedrock menus feel much clunkier compared to java

[fierce moth]

since my server has more ram than it originally had

[prime solstice]

I run a bedrock server for me and my friends

[graceful burrow]

Takes 30 minutes if you can follow basic instructions, setting up a vanilla server couldn't be easier

[prime solstice]

Honestly I might just buy myself a raspberry pi 4 or 5 and run a server on it

[fierce moth]

my first server i deployed was a raspberry pi compute module 4 with 4gb of ram

[prime solstice]

Ok that’s not a big deal

[fierce moth]

mostly generation

[hot tartan]

Yeah I’ve done it at home a few times, need to do it here in the dorms, I’m just busy now that my break is over

[fierce moth]

loading is fine on pis

[graceful burrow]

I need to get an ssd for my nas so chunks don't load so slow

It's a prawnblem

[fierce moth]

but with a spigot plugin you can pre-generate chunks upto a certain radius

[prime solstice]

I have a pi 3b and it’s a bit slow for loading a server

[hot tartan]

Sounds like a skrill issue Aldo

[graceful burrow]

Mine is a pixelmon server so when someone's on a flying Pokémon and going fast and they hit a chunk edge that hasn't loaded it has a good chance to just kick the player off the Pokémon and they plummet to the ground

[hot tartan]

He made a crustacean themed joke, I like crustacean jokes, so I responded

[fierce moth]

fuck, fixed my terminology

🥴

[hot tartan]

Ohhh makes sense, do you only have hard drives in your NAS at the moment?

[prime solstice]

I might use spigot when I get the pi4 and use geyser so I can play use my java server so it can work on bedrock

[fierce moth]

paper is more performance efficient iirc

[mortal kraken]

Paper has a experimental multi threading plugin too

[fierce moth]

spring for an 8gb ver if possible

[prime solstice]

I will see what I can afford at the time also I will see if I can find a affordable one in Canada

[fierce moth]

i havent tried it on my pi 5 8gb yet

but id assume it would be better

[prime solstice]

Not a bad price

[fierce moth]

not like it matters cause my current deployed server is x86-64

https://files.bruhs.xyz/upload/firefox_v9ymAwKyPa.png
ngl might deploy my mc server again since im barely using my servers ram

[mortal kraken]

Other boards also exist, idk about their cpu but their availability is present at least
Orange pi is readily available in AliExpress, I wanted to also get one for a simple idling Linux server

[prime solstice]

My dad has a bunch of those

[fierce moth]

rpi does have the best support, both in terms of hardware and software

[prime solstice]

I think he also has a banana pi computer

[mortal kraken]

Probably, but then a MC server still is very easy to host. You just need java which definitely is available by their OS as well

Almost everything is usually available anyway, whatever it may be VPN or so

[prime solstice]

I still haven’t decided what to run the server on yet

[fierce moth]

i use cloudflare tunnels for tunneling most of my servers traffic to the outbound net

[full fossil]

lol I have to pay $60 for this a month

[jade lantern]

that one i sent was between my local servers

my actual internet is worse

[full fossil]

worse then mine? D:

[jade lantern]

lol nope

https://www.speedtest.net/result/15967952247

[full fossil]

mines the worst ngl

slowest I ever had was 512kbps at an apartment

that one was sasktel

[summer folio]

Epicc! Too many people have heard of Mullvad now, even when they don't pay YouTubers to promote 3 year plans like NordVPN etc...

My Download speed has dropped 50%+ on the Swedish owned RAM Wireguard servers. 😑

Or it's just Telia doing maintenance locally that dropped my speed earlier today

[jade lantern]

what

[summer folio]

I blame Mullvad VPN still having the same number of own Swedish servers as last year, even when Swedish FBI raided them in April & left empty handed.

I imagine they got a very big surge of users from the proof of concept

[summer folio]

VPN limits your speed

[jade lantern]

https://www.speedtest.net/result/15967994139

thats on my vpn

[summer folio]

Cool! At least Mullvad VPN have upgraded the servers from 10Gbps to 20Gbps since last year

[hybrid echo]

hi

[thin tulip]

You can save money on the fairphone by assenbling it yourself...about 280 USD.

[jade lantern]

im not using mulvad

[jade lantern]

idk why you keep saying that

[summer folio]

"Own" VPN?

[jade lantern]

no

[hybrid echo]

i got a qustion

[jade lantern]

i use windscribe

[jade lantern]

https://dontasktoask.com

[summer folio]

I see!

[hybrid echo]

ok i got a desktop, it is a pre built one, it's cpu is a (Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz) what budget graphics card y'all recommend

my desktop is a "slim" Dell Optiplex 9010

[fierce moth]

mullvad vpn ftw

[keen grove]

aw man im excited, building my first pc in a week 😄

[grand trellis]

I am in fact, worse

[night heron]

slow

🥱

[grand trellis]

:(

[night heron]

thats actually extremely fast im kidding

i get 940/40

[jade lantern]

Show isp or fake

[grand trellis]

10 gigabit Ethernet

[silver sun]

76

[polar fern]

I think I’m going to do some live streaming today using restream… first time I’m using it &very curious as to what the experience will be

If anyone here has experience with them, please feel free to message me and share your experiences good or bad

[graceful void]

hi

[indigo plume]

Yuzu has settled a Nintendo lawsuit and agreed to pay $2.4 million in damages

Guess Nintendo got something out it after all

[graceful void]

too bad

[indigo plume]

Ppl in this server said they didn't have a case so who's the clown now

When I said Nintendo would prob win due to the Parton earnings

[jade lantern]

are u sure its not on geforce now or something?

[grand trellis]

My motherboard supports 10g

And I thought GeForce now sucks

[jade lantern]

only if you have bad internet

[grand trellis]

I've seen people with Ethernet lag

[eternal hearth]

Didnt they claim that the zelda was pirated million times? so they got off cheap. But is yuzu shutdown now or what

According to a joint filing, Tropic Haze, LLC has not only agreed to pay $2,400,000 to Nintendo, it also agrees that Yuzu was “primarily designed to circumvent and play Nintendo Switch games,” and agrees to be permanently enjoined from working on Yuzu, hosting Yuzu, distributing Yuzu’s code or features, hosting Yuzu websites and social media, or doing anything else that circumvents Nintendo’s copyright protection.

Oh, and it will surrender the yuzu-emu.org domain name to Nintendo, agrees to delete not only its copies of Yuzu but also “all circumvention tools used for developing or using Yuzu—such as TegraRcmGUI, Hekate, Atmosphère, Lockpick_RCM, NDDumpTool, nxDumpFuse, and TegraExplorer,” and hand over any “physical circumvention devices” and “modified Nitnendo hardware” to Nintendo. It also agrees to not delete any other “evidence” that infringes Nintendo’s IP rights.

[hot tartan]

Yeah yuzu discord is kinda going nuts rn

[night heron]

that inspires me to pirate more nintendo games

i should download their entire game library for every console ever made for no reason

[hot tartan]

Yes I agree

I will be doing a lot of stuff when I get back to my laptop

[silk raptor]

hi

[restive lion]

You may be too late

[strange elk]

They didn't host or distribute that. Also you can nsp dump on hacked native hardware anyway

[hot tartan]

Yeah shit is hitting the fan rn lol

[restive lion]

I'm sure there's tons of copies already circulating though

[eternal hearth]

yeah but nintendo blames them

[strange elk]

Nintendo blames everyone but themselves

[restive lion]

I know a couple friends who grabbed the yuzu repo already

[strange elk]

I snagged it a couple days ago

Just to be safe

[hot tartan]

Is it gone already or nah

[eternal hearth]

but did they use memory-safe programming languages 😎

[restive lion]

Repo is gone

[strange elk]

Yikes.

[hot tartan]

Damn

People are def sharing it so we will see

[strange elk]

I dont get it. Dolphin is still up

And thats got a proprietary element to it

[carmine stirrup]

Okay, I know this is old, but Regina!!

(I was born there)

[fossil frost]

Yuzu switch emulator is dead.. Nintendo crushed them into submission out of court https://www.ign.com/articles/yuzu-emulator-lawsuit-settled-for-24-million-between-nintendo-and-tropic-haze

Nvm, didn't realise it's already been posted a bunch 😁

[strange elk]

How are they even getting these numbers

[hot tartan]

Yeah yuzu discord is having a melt down rn

It’s crazy, and the announcement they put out was 100% written by lawyers too

[fossil frost]

And everyone quickly grabbing the source from GitHub too? 😁

[hot tartan]

The original is down already, but there are tons of clones already up

[polar pine]

It over

[strange elk]

Well they are mad at valve apparently too.

[polar pine]

https://github.com/yuzu-emu/yuzu

It's 404

[strange elk]

Ur 404

[hot tartan]

Nintendo? Or yuzu

[polar pine]

turns to dust

[strange elk]

People in the Yuzu discord. Stuck in the lobby I guess, can't see the other channels as I just joined.

[hot tartan]

Why mad at Valve? What did they do

[strange elk]

Idk why you're asking me

[hot tartan]

Idk just nothing I see shows people mad at valve

[strange elk]

It was cleared I guess.

Was one guy I suppose

So they just didn't even fight at all then

[nova ingot]

Big news day all around it seems

[fossil frost]

Nintendo are a multibillion company... yuzu is 1 guy in a country where you pay your own legal fees, win or lose... he could have spent years, and been in debt for 10s of millions to try and fight this, on the off chance that he could find better lawyers than nintendo... but... nintendo could afford to wrap him up in red tape for 10s of years and they wouldnt even notice it on the balance sheet

[strange elk]

Nintendo is borderline terroristic in my eyes

[fossil frost]

they couldnt, it was lose lose for them... even if they won, they would have lost

[nova ingot]

Chilling effect

[echo canopy]

How did Nintendo win? While yuzu told you how to break their DRM they never actually made software to do so, besides that they respected the law

[strange elk]

Dolphin still got off way easier

[fossil frost]

documenting HOW to do something isnt illegal... so i wouldnt even qualify it with "besides that"... yuzu and the dev didnt break the law.... but... nintendo can afford to keep him in court for years... he cannot afford to be in court for years

[echo canopy]

Dolphin still breaks Nintendo DRM by having Wii AES keys in their source code

They are legally in more wrong then yuzu

It’s why dolphin never made it to the steam store page

[hot tartan]

They also in the early access gave special support to ToTK before the game was officially released, so technically paid piracy, and that was a big no no

[fossil frost]

tbh... yuzu on the steamdeck is what pissed off nintendo... its another hand held... THAT is why nintendo decided that NOW is the time

[hot tartan]

According to the yuzu discord

[strange elk]

Legit it just smells like it could've been considered a frivolous case.

[eager notch]

Isn't it open source?

[fossil frost]

if IS a frivolous case... but... if you cant afford to fight a frivolous case, you automatically lose

[strange elk]

Phones were already supported, so was Linux which.. Steamdeck surprise surprise is running

[fossil frost]

repo is dead, but there are many forks already

[eager notch]

This is why we need hardcore anti-slapp laws

[long briar]

Which is exactly what I expected with Yuzu, it's gonna become decentralized which makes it harder for Nintendo to take down

[echo canopy]

Even if it was windows only you could probably run it under proton lol

[fossil frost]

wouldnt matter... you would still be destroyed long before your counter suit succeeded

[strange elk]

Ehh maybe

[echo canopy]

Definitely

[strange elk]

I'm kinda curious how well though

Aw shit idk why I didn't grab separate builds. Just grabbed the source and windows versions

Eh. I'll build it.

[echo canopy]

No shader pre cache so it would be stuttery as shaders are first processed but you can optionally compute them asynchronous and just get slightly glitchy textures for a few frames

[strange elk]

So not.. Great but playable

[polar pine]

The worst part is that they got Yuzu to agree that it was designed to circumvent protection measures

And sets a legal precedent against any other Bring Your Own Device BIOS emulators

[fossil frost]

"sign the agreement that we wrote for you, or else we put you in the ground" is a good way of making people say whatever you want them to say

[hot tartan]

Yes

The statements in the discord are exactly that

[fossil frost]

tbh, im surprised nintendo didnt force them to delete the discord too, they are allowing a large number of people to sit there and be pissed off with nintendo

[strange elk]

I just feel like more could've been done

[echo canopy]

What about ryuxjin are they still in service?

I don’t think I spelt it right

[long briar]

Yuzu was the most popular one

[strange elk]

I'm definitely obtaining all my Nintendo games legally from now on

[long briar]

Ryujinx is likely next

[crude frost]

hi

[long briar]

There's nothing you can say or do about that part

[fossil frost]

never showed up on the steamdeck, so doesnt have as bad of a look as yuzu... as i said... steamdeck was the critical mistake

[strange elk]

Nintendo does anything they want, I thought that was obvious

[long briar]

Legally there's nothing they can do

[fossil frost]

they forced them to delete the github repo.. they forced them to release statements that nintendo wrote for them...

[long briar]

Freedom of speech is a right of everyone

[strange elk]

Legally Yuzu should still be alive but

Here we are

[echo canopy]

Could easily install it as a flatpak…. It supports Linux natively

[fossil frost]

none of what nintendo did was legal... but they have more money than 1 guy

[north escarp]

What is yuzu jeeezus Nintendo wipping out ye old switch

[long briar]

You can stop someone from helping people pirate your games through apps

you can't stop someone from speaking

[strange elk]

All this has done is made me more vindictive of Nintendo

[eternal hearth]

Remember: they dont care

[long briar]

All yuzu needs to do is become purely community driven and decentralized and Nintendo won't be able to go after them

[fossil frost]

the government cannot... freedom of speech only applies to the government stopping you... nintendo are a private entity and are allowed to tell you to STFU as much as they want, but its up to you to listen or not

[long briar]

They still have to go through court to "force" anything

[strange elk]

And legal repercussions can follow breaching an NDA

[fossil frost]

if you think freedom of speech laws applies to anything other than protecting you from the government... you shouldnt be speaking about freedom of speech, because you do not understand it enough to speak about it

[fossil frost]

they didnt go through court to force them to say what they wanted them to say... why bother going to court to stop them from saying what they dont want to say

[north escarp]

Why are they in trouble though did they make a free copy of a game? Or they made a remake? Gave access before release date to games or what?

[echo canopy]

daily reminder NDAs exist

[nova ingot]

Also Freedom of speech ≠ Obligation to pay attention

[fossil frost]

we dont live in a perfect fantasy world, we live in a world where, if you have more money than someone, you can force them into things... because you can afford more, and more expensive lawyers than they can

[nova ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-ethan-bubblegum-tate-harlem-globetrotters-law-suit-hello-its-me-gif-22606149

[long briar]

That's true

but to make a case against a community of people who happen to talk about said thing is far harder

[echo canopy]

Just a reminder to not go full socialist because of this. It’s the same issues as capitalism but the government owns literally everything

[north escarp]

I had a judge tell me he would literally drop my case cause it was silly I just had to get a lawyer (tried to get a free one couldn't get ahold of them for 3 weeks) went to court again and apparently my lawyer just dropped my case and so I had to get another one. And by that point a clerk said I could just pay the fine and due to working two jobs just gave up and paid the fine so I wouldn't have to come back again xD. Moral being if your poor your lawyer is a waste of time, or if you got the funds just pay the court citation and don't waste your time whichever works lol

[strange elk]

They dont want it to be quiet, they want to set an example. And so they have

[fossil frost]

you dont have to make a case against the community. you just have to make a case against the owner of the server that hosts the community, and if the yuzu devs run the community, nintendo could have 100% told them to shut it down

[long briar]

That's only if the server was used to distribute or develop the emulator

[strange elk]

Do you think they, or the courts will care

[hot tartan]

I think Nintendo will also gain ownership of all of yuzus things like their discord

[long briar]

Nintendo might, Courts probably wouldn't

[strange elk]

They dont own Yuzu, they CANT own Yuzu as it was an open source project, they cantake it down though

[covert crest]

LT Tea? linus tech tea? pls sell

[eternal hearth]

it still has an owner

[fossil frost]

you fail to see that the yuzu devs are 1. saying things that nintendo have told them to say... 2. deleting things that nintendo told them to delete... we are dealing with someone who has been told that 2.4m is what they are paying... but read this statement... or it will be 10m... release this other statement or it will be 20m.... when somebody the size of nintendo comes after you, its a heavy weight boxer VS a 8 year old... you do as you are told, or you are going to die... so nintendo could have told them to delete the discord "or else"

[nova ingot]

Hmmm is LTT a LLC? Been wondering if it’s a partnership

[long briar]

Nintendo didn't tell them to delete it, they took over the social media accounts

[north escarp]

So it was an emulator of sorts that caused the ruckus

I mean there's always been n64 emulators since 05 with every game so that can't be the only thing

[long briar]

As part of the settlement, it was 2.4m + the domain + social media accounts

[echo canopy]

It was yuzu telling people how to break switch DRM and (apparently) supporting TOTK before the official release

[north escarp]

Hm

[long briar]

Everything Yuzu posted afterwards is Nintendo written, not Yuzu. Yuzu no longer owns their social media accounts

[hot tartan]

Yes

[strange elk]

I like how I pay for Nindeno slop and still get punished

[north escarp]

Why is it bad for the switch to emulate other games? I get pirated games but like otherwise it'd just increase the switch sales

[strange elk]

I kinda regret getting totk tbh. It wasnt even that good.

At least, considering I still didnt finish it and I got it last october

[long briar]

I never really got into TOTK, but I have it on Yuzu so there's that

[echo canopy]

Piracy is a preferable alternative to paying Nintendo

[long briar]

I also have no clue what version Yuzu is on

[nova ingot]

Always wanted to play windwaker in VR through an emulator

[echo canopy]

You can with dolphin

[long briar]

I had a beta version with this icon and that's about it

[strange elk]

Yuzu updates via repo doesnt it? Or cdn?

[long briar]

oh.

[nova ingot]

Having a wall of games

[strange elk]

I just hope more people turn to the high seas after this

Every company these days is just.. trash. THey dont deserve my working class money.

[long briar]

???

[nova ingot]

Wasn’t sure if it wasn’t still possible

[strange elk]

It was, and likely always will be unless some dependency gets lost forever. But the fact it isnt supported isnt great

[north escarp]

Dolphins alright (only decent GameCube emulator on android I could find) I use john gba or my boy for gba, haven't tested many other systems. One day though gonna build a pc and have it emulate every system and it'll just be a massive gaming rig for throwbacks

[mortal kraken]

Nice

[north escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/james-bond-007-pierce-brosnan-nightfire-camera-gif-13833730467309587229

[strange elk]

Also Mother 3

JP only release, why

[nova ingot]

I mostly use VR to explore environments to games I already beaten. Hear Howard’s legacy in VR is a treat

[strange elk]

The fans literally did thw translation work for them on the GBA version

[nova ingot]

Liminal spaces in VR is kinda cool

Been wanting to do VR exploring the ships in Star Citizen

[strange elk]

I want to explore Twilight Princess in VR

I want to play that game in VR

[nova ingot]

https://youtu.be/49Qja7s0DrI this thumbnail

[echo canopy]

So based and KDE pilled

[nova ingot]

https://youtu.be/CIdbw-cdbkc?

[strange elk]

Holy shit

How has nintendo let the UE5 remake even continue to develop

[nova ingot]

Sssshh

[echo canopy]

I hope with KDE releasing to a 6month release cycle like gnome it just flat out replaces gnome.

The gnome dev team is just full with assholes and it lacks basic Wayland features for FUCKING YEARS now because they can’t get their heads out of their asses.

Gnome is also like Mac OS aka it sucks

[fossil frost]

Got a very grumpy little dog here, he's being forced to wear a bandage because he's cut his paw wide open when he stood on something in the forest... He's not happy about it at all. Has to have time in the cone of shame too, because he keeps trying to pull his bandage off...

[indigo plume]

Good thing I already gave yuzu on steam deck

[humble jolt]

The post from Yuzu's discord:

[strange elk]

Yuzu patreon is still up though

[humble jolt]

oh, they can't keep stuff from the internet from disappearing

[strange elk]

a "small step" towards ending piracy.. uh huh

[humble jolt]

the development stops, though. Fuck Nintendo.

[restive lion]

clearly lawyer speak lol

[strange elk]

My switch is still unpatched.. so

[humble jolt]

makes you wonder what's next for Ryujinx and Atmosphere.

[fossil frost]

yuzu is distributed WITH many pirated switch games, not yuzu's fault, its the distributors fault... yuzu cannot be blamed for it... even though they have been blamed...

[strange elk]

Well now they are just gonna pack Ryujinx

[humble jolt]

Nintendo doesn't care. They do everything they can to shit on their users' good will in any way they can.

[strange elk]

I blame Gay Bowser

[humble jolt]

they'll probably go after Ryujinx and Atmosphere next.

[strange elk]

eh.. good luck scrubbing my systems.

[humble jolt]

But then again, I guess having patreon is a big reason they targetted Yuzu

profiting off of it in some manner

[strange elk]

And ofc APK hosting apps arent gonna be affected even if Google Play is

[long briar]

Meanwhile Nvidia is now blocking all Cuda translation layers and seems to be less of a deal than yuzu here?

[humble jolt]

sad though. The Yuzu team has been big since Cemu was running BotW

[fossil frost]

nintendo is big news, not seen anything about nvidia... but, if they are doing that.. its an equally arsehole move

[strange elk]

How does that work even

Already wasnt supporting Nvidia, give me another reason

[long briar]

@fossil frost https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-bans-using-translation-layers-for-cuda-software-to-run-on-other-chips-new-restriction-apparently-targets-zluda-and-some-chinese-gpu-makers

[strange elk]

The clause was absent in the EULA documentation that's installed with the CUDA 11.4 and 11.5 release, and presumably with all versions before that. However, it is present in the installed documentation with version 11.6 and newer.

[long briar]

CUDA is Nvidia's IP, they can do whatever they want with it and developers have to respect that....

like whether it's a dick move or not, they do actually kinda have to in order to maintain their IP

[strange elk]

Nvidia is a multibillion dollar company

Theyll be fine

Just like Nintendo

[long briar]

you're an order of magnitude off

they're at 2+ tril rn

[strange elk]

Well that just solidifies my point even more

[long briar]

no it really doesn't

CUDA is absolutely huge for Nvidia

[nova ingot]

Nvidia should buy Canada

[long briar]

Legally, if they don't stop people from trying to reverse engineer CUDA, their intellectual property rights could be revoked... which is actually a big issue

[nova ingot]

Do it

Anyone remember when Bethesda had to sue Mojang over “scrolls” even though they didn’t want to

[long briar]

It's been seen before where someone doesn't enforce their IPR and is thus seen as "abandonment"...

[strange elk]

Scuse me? ^^^

Scrolls?

Im suing Toby Fox for Papyrus

They own Windows, that wouldnt work. They tried to sue Lindows for the same thing, I dont remember if that succeeded or not

In July 2004, Microsoft offered to settle with Lindows.[6] As part of this licensing settlement, Microsoft paid an estimated US$20,000,000 (equivalent to $30,986,610 in 2022), and Lindows transferred the Lindows trademark to Microsoft and changed their name to Linspire.

Didnt go well for them it seems at least

[long briar]

@light epoch They were required in order to keep the trademark "The Elder Scrolls" because it was another game with the name Scrolls. The settlement was Mojang can release Scrolls, but the trademark was Bestheda's, meaning Mojang was not allowed to use the Scrolls name without Bestheda's permission, including to create a competing game with the name Scrolls

it's actually not ridiculous if you think about it

[strange elk]

"the elder scrolls" is what they own. Not "scrolls"

Id consider that pretty ridiculous

Capitalist trash

[long briar]

IF Bethesda didn't fight for the name Scrolls (not the word) then, Mojang could use that to create a competing game with a similar name to their own game and Laches Doctrine would mean Mojang would get away with it

[strange elk]

Mojang, competing with bethesda... just sounds unlikely

[long briar]

That's the key here

[long briar]

It doesn't matter likely or not, they have to fight for their own trademarks otherwise it's revoked

[strange elk]

Papyrus

Honestly the Zluda thing I somewhat get. I dont like it, but I saw it coming.

[long briar]

Unfortunately. So until Devs recompile for OpenCL, Nvidia is gonna hold the crown with CUDA

[strange elk]

But 1m pirated copies of totk... I wonder how they got that number if they weren't the distributors.

[long briar]

As for Nintendo... I think they're stretching it

If they want to take down Yuzu, honestly that's justified

[calm swan]

nooooooo

[strange elk]

I disagree

[long briar]

but 2.4m + domain and social media accounts seem incredibly harsh for what it is

[strange elk]

Again I bring up Dolphin but obv it doesnt matter now

[wispy plume]

rip yuzu/citra Holy shit

[strange elk]

Importantly enough I still have access and they cant patch my switch so

[wispy plume]

HOW are they so asshurt about their ip when literally no other company is

[graceful burrow]

They were paywalling emulator fixes for totk before totk actually released
thats why Nintendo is taking legal action

[calm swan]

i am pirating my life out of nintendo lol

[graceful burrow]

That's why ryujinx isn't getting sued

[wispy plume]

it's not even about japanese copyright law bc sony doesnt do this shit

[strange elk]

Ohhhh... ok yeah, thats another issue entirely..

Seems late though..

[graceful burrow]

Paywalling emulator fixes for a game that isn't out yet was the dumbest move they could have made

[hot tartan]

It’s the main issue I think

[graceful burrow]

Lawsuits take time, and Nintendo's lawyers are thorough

[stable trout]

yep

[calm swan]

its alright ig we got ryujinx now

[stable trout]

i have seen them take 1-4 years

[strange elk]

Ryu is pretty inferior atm

[graceful burrow]

Yeah and yuzu is still gonna be available as it is rn
Just won't get updates anymore

[strange elk]

They hit Dolphin basically immediately

[graceful burrow]

With luck the yuzu devs will move to ryujinx

[strange elk]

Hopefully. Would be ideal

[graceful burrow]

Yep

I think Nintendo is also still riled from the palworld situation so

[strange elk]

lol..

[muted tusk]

I thought people stopped playing Palworld

[strange elk]

I dont really have interest in that game, but I hope they get out clean in the end.

[left venture]

nintendo finding someone else to sue after they couldnt get palworld lmaoo

[long briar]

I mean Yuzu still works fine

[left venture]

hell divers apparently adding mechs, boutta become another titan fall 💀

[long briar]

illegal distribution of games is decentralized so it's realistically impossible to stop

[graceful burrow]

This gotta be the dumbest comparison I've ever heard

That one's actually impressive

[strange elk]

They added mechs to warframe. TITANFALL 3???

[graceful burrow]

Damn anyone remember hawken
Titanfall 0.5

It had mechs!!!

[long briar]

that's not the issue. Also read up, if companies don't enforce their IPRs, it can easily be revoked from them

[wispy plume]

emulators arent even their ip

[muted tusk]

I can't believe Armored Core 6 is Titanfall 3!!

[graceful burrow]

Holy fuck you're so right

[strange elk]

Armored Core 9 Titanfall 4 wen

[long briar]

yea, so as I said... it's not the issue.

Yuzu had a source of revenue from its users

[calm swan]

so does ryujinx tho

[strange elk]

Paywalling unreleased game patches though

[calm swan]

ah

[long briar]

yea... this

[calm swan]

yeah thats why it was prolly taken down

[eager notch]

Why the hell is an audio driver 300 MB?

[long briar]

but to take over social media accounts then impersonating the yuzu team on them?

[long briar]

deep integration into windows audio driver probably

so it can interact with DSP and such

[strange elk]

Wonder if Louis Rossmann will say anything. I know Muta will have something on it soon

Probably out of his territory though

[humble jolt]

probably also comes with some crap software that you don't need as well

[long briar]

Rossman on Yuzu?

[long briar]

nvm it makes no sense

[humble jolt]

like printer drivers coming with software that is usually garbage

like Brother printers are great

[calm swan]

mutas gonna be mad depressed

[humble jolt]

their software? not so much

[calm swan]

he was already depressed when the lawsuit was announced

[strange elk]

yeah..

[long briar]

I took alook... Realtek driver with the app is 88MB... EqualizerAPO (debateably the most advanced DSP on windows) is about another 40MB

Why is it 300? Bloatware

[strange elk]

I wish I could just tell windows

"I want to install and maintain my own drivers"

[long briar]

you can

[strange elk]

"Because you are horrible at it"

[long briar]

wait

no? Windows drivers are usually functional and stable

[strange elk]

I mean sure usually but I hate that windows update wants to install software for my razer mouse that is working just fine on generic

[long briar]

like I trust it enough that if I think there's a bad driver, I'd uninstall and install from device manager

[long briar]

Windows doesn't install that, Razer and logitech peripherals have a pop up that's built into the mouse firmware to push you to download their app

That's actually the mouse's fault

[strange elk]

also that time HP printer software was installed

On everyones pcs whether or not they had a printer at all, or HP anything

[long briar]

Dunno where you got that from either

[strange elk]

It happened to me

[long briar]

Lol

Didn't happen to anyone else

Windows does not automatically install software, only drivers

the exception is if you're running an OEM copy of windows with their customizations ie. certain apps or wallpapers/customizations

[strange elk]

My PC is custom built, and a certainly didnt go to windows store to install it myself

[long briar]

then it's a skill issue

[strange elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WindowsHelp/comments/186qmgd/hp_smart_had_installed_itself_today_when_i_turned/

It was 3 months ago

[calm swan]

welp cant download citra 💀

gg time to find a repost

[long briar]

bahahaha

wait

[strange elk]

OneNote apparently used HPs API as a dependency.. which I dont even think I had that installed

[long briar]

windows home or pro

[strange elk]

Pro, obv

[long briar]

interesting

I have onenote but never got that

I also have an HP printer...

[strange elk]

I dont remember it being easy to purge either

[long briar]

purge?

[strange elk]

Uninstall

[long briar]

Weird

[strange elk]

Going forward I made the decision to replace nearly all Windows apps with FOSS alternatives to mitigate the issue. And disabling as much Microsoft online services I can like Store and copilot

The nuclear option clearly but Im just tired

[nova ingot]

Yeah I get that when a printer joins a network

[strange elk]

Last time I used a printer was in 2020 and it was just the scanner of a Canon

No printers have connected wirelessly or not since then, and I had a windows refresh since

[nova ingot]

I use a printer probably 2-3 times a a week to print out 10-20 pages. I feel like such a boomer admitting it though

Because my eyes just want paper once in a while

[strange elk]

Meh. I get that. I wont read an ebook

[nova ingot]

Usually in the form of a checklist I don’t want to constantly be swiping to check off

[strange elk]

Also just more handy in some cases still.

[nova ingot]

Something visceral about having a paper with the 10 things you need to do

Plus you can just throw it away afterwards/recycle

In a way it becomes digital clutter having a checklist

[strange elk]

Well I mean thats what stuff like Logseq is for

But I get it

[nova ingot]

I have an app tracking my assignments for this class I’m taking. And I get like 8 per a day. I just screenshot it and print out the page as my”daily do this”
Technically I can use the app but it becomes a mental distraction constantly swiping through the app

Plus I can add notes and colors to help me prioritize. Literally faster than using ANOTHER app tonorganize what my duties are for the day

[strange elk]

Yeah as far as mitigating distractions paper is better, also yeah quick scribbling

[nova ingot]

HP is such a pain though. I’m getting brother from now on

I only use toner so it’s not too much of a problem in terms of supplies

[long briar]

???

how is that a bad thing

paper is so nice

[left venture]

i got an epson printer rn, and it does NOT want to work at all unless all colored carttridges are filled

even if im printing black and white 😭

[nova ingot]

Plus pens are nice

[left venture]

gel pens nice

[long briar]

how do you even write with .2

[nova ingot]

I use a tablet but sometimes I work alongside someone who’s paperless

The 0.2 is for fine not taking and subscripts

[long briar]

Also Lihit lab Teffa? I think?

Good stuff

[strange elk]

I like smaller tips, they generally feel smoother

[nova ingot]

Yeah I’m glad I splurged

I use a kuru toga 0.3 for my math

Since I use graph paper

The mechanical pencils came as a premade assorted sampler set

[long briar]

this is what i've got on me rn

[nova ingot]

Looks well used

[long briar]

Very

it's my main set, I've got a bit more at home

[nova ingot]

Which is why I’m like “yeah I’m okay spending $3 on a pen I’ll be using every day for the next 2 years

[long briar]

Also waiting for some refills for the pens, a number are missing because they're dry ;-;

[nova ingot]

If I’m doing collaborative. Sure. Paperless/stylus

If it’s something I actually need to process. Bring on the colors

[long briar]

I love the muted colours of Sarasa Vintage

I just... need refills

I write a lot

[nova ingot]

I wish color eink camedown in price as much as SSDs did

[long briar]

Orenz is a 0.5 for when I want zero play in the lead

kuru toga advance .5 most of the time though

Also got a Delguard and waiting for a 925-35

😄

[long briar]

SSDs are going back up though-

[nova ingot]

I bought a few 4TB last year. Glad I did

My mechanical pencils

I was really hoping for a 4TB PCIe 4.0 to be $180 by this point last year

[graceful burrow]

You could make one with an nvme enclosure but it's gonna be a hell of a lot more spendy

[nova ingot]

I have 3 NVMe in my current system looking to make it 4.0 once I transfer the drives to a new build

Man backup is fast on NVMe

[long briar]

I have a 1tb drive on a 4 dollar nvme to type C board (I think it's usb 3.0?) in a 3d printed enclosure

[devout shore]

hi

[graceful burrow]

Yeah but if they want pcie they're gonna need Thunderbolt

[long briar]

old gen 3 ssd

nah

you're just limited by speed by using a usb nvme controller

but it works shockingly

[graceful burrow]

Yah
You can't pipe pcie through usb 3/.1

If they want pcie they require Thunderbolt

[long briar]

I mean Ijust had a spare drive so I was like

[graceful burrow]

I'm not talking and have not been talking about what you've done

I'm talking about what they specified in their original message

[long briar]

oh it's a 10gbit

ah yea

[nova ingot]

I got a kid a used 1tb Samsung 970 I used for 18 months before upgrading to a 2 tb PCIe 4.0

It’s his first gaming Pc and his boot was a 500 gb Sata

It’s not bad to “gift” used hardware right

[long briar]

It's a gift, computer hardware isn't like a personal item

[nova ingot]

Used video cards feel like they’re top of the list for “yeah I’ll take that” but got to admit that “used storage “ feels kinda iffy

[long briar]

it's fine

[nova ingot]

Bottom is used mouse with hand cheese

Want some cheese with your mouse

[strange elk]

Used SSDs are less of a big deal than used HDDs. Also a bit different coming from a friend than a rando

[long briar]

idk I don't usually gift computer hardware

[strange elk]

Just mention the history of the drive, as a common courtesy. Info will be in CrystalDiskInfo anyway

[long briar]

last one was a 980ti in the middle of covid when gpu prices were... bad

[nova ingot]

I used to “gift” iPhone users 10 ft Anker cables with nano sized chargers.

it was so damn bulky because they were one cable users

[strange elk]

Im taking a 250gb SSD where I dont know the history, all I know is its infected with malware, not gonna stop me from wiping and using it though

[long briar]

I still need to get a 65w nano ii

[nova ingot]

The cable loop was the same size as the phone. The troll was intentional

[long briar]

those things seem tiny for 65w'

[strange elk]

uGreen

[nova ingot]

I got an Anker Atom III. Traveled with me through 10 countries so far

[long briar]

I have a Topvork 100w...

weird gan charger that is sketchy

[graceful burrow]

I'd be pissed if someone gifted me anker lmao

[nova ingot]

GaN kicks ass

[strange elk]

Id prefer not to buy from anker anymore but I dont really care.

[graceful burrow]

I really care

[long briar]

Like it works and supports PPS and everything, charges my laptop at 100w (Zephy G16) but it's still scuffed

[nova ingot]

Yeah this was a pre Eufy controversy purchase

[strange elk]

Unless its anything internet connected, fuck that

[graceful burrow]

They don't deserve the money

Baseus/ugreen >

[strange elk]

Id sooner buy from ugreen though yeah

[long briar]

That's fair. But to me a product is a product and I don't care about the brand

[graceful burrow]

Shame

[long briar]

if Nano 65w is the smallest 65w there is, then I guess it's also the best value

[nova ingot]

uGreen and Ravpower really tried the game the Amazon system with Howe gift cards

[graceful burrow]

Consoomer

[nova ingot]

lol had a guy in another chat earlier pissed off I had Asus stuff

[strange elk]

Also have a few anker products from literally a couple weeks before this lmao

[nova ingot]

“Smash that 💩”

[strange elk]

Asus sucks

[long briar]

take that back right now

Asus laptops are fine if you avoid their lower end stuff

[strange elk]

If the hardware is good, its good though. But I likely wont buy their stuff again

[graceful burrow]

I say if you owned anker before they were known to be shit that's fine
I have and use some anker cables I bought years ago
Catch me never considering their shit again

[strange elk]

I was honestly kinda annoyed, but they are still good products.

[graceful burrow]

They simply don't deserve the money if they're gonna be shitty

🤷‍♂️

[long briar]

but they aren't..

the company is, the products except eufy. Screw eufy. fine

[graceful burrow]

Yeah not requiring verification to see into my home is pretty cool
Pretty rad

Totally not dogshit

[long briar]

they aren't doing that through their chargers

[strange elk]

My stance on Nintendo. And HP. And Dell. And Microsoft. Sort of Sony, but their hardware really doesnt have competition rn as far as the controllers. Valve for the love of god help me.

[graceful burrow]

I don't care

[long briar]

or at least I hope not...

[strange elk]

I never got a steam controller. Want one so bad still.

Dualsense is veeeery nice though, even if the sticks are shit out of the box :>

[graceful burrow]

It's an egregious breach of trust why should I trust the other side of the company just because it's "technically not the same" or "they're sister companies"
Especially when ugreen and baseus have both shown anker is overpriced as hell at this point

Considering anker is dumb

[long briar]

idk

Nano aren't even overpriced

[graceful burrow]

Doesn't make them worth the dosh

[long briar]

Baseus is based

[graceful burrow]

Anker can stick it

[native tulip]

total bullshit

[long briar]

Ugreen I have no opinion on they're fine

[native tulip]

did yal hear about Yuzu/Citra shutting down?

[long briar]

I have a couple of their chargers

[native tulip]

screw nintendo

[strange elk]

I didnt know Citra was also hit ngl

[long briar]

clearly you haven't been playingallday

dimwit it's almost old news atp

[north escarp]

All I'm saying is after the Bush administration and the laws passed after September 11th no one has privacy rights technically

[native tulip]

damn

this is what I get for going outside trolley

[strange elk]

It just dropped like 2 hours ago calm down

[native tulip]

fr

[north escarp]

But it is lame non the less

[graceful burrow]

Me when I'm endeavouring to get muted and bring up politics for zero reason

[long briar]

lmao ye that's the fun part

[north escarp]

[strange elk]

When Mutahar has a day old video on it, thats when Ill consider it old news

[long briar]

What does this have to do with anything? Privacy varies from perspective

[strange elk]

Or at the very least stale

[long briar]

Google has my location and probably knows me better than I know myself. That doesn't mean you know me at all

[strange elk]

That just means now I know where to look

[long briar]

Of course. the jackpot. They're not gonna make it easy.

[strange elk]

Not if your opsec is good anyway

And theirs obviously

[north escarp]

Aldonist mentioned a company allowing to access your files. But it's kinda always been a thing as much as it sucks. Twitter used to. Facebook still does. Not sure if there's still the issue with the Chinese made social platform (controlled by their gov) its all the same but I'm just jumping in the convo lol don't mind me

[graceful burrow]

I didn't mention that

Quote me right if you're gonna quote me

[strange elk]

Nah he was referring to random people being able to access baby monitors inside their homes with no authentication

[long briar]

Aldonist mentioned a company that made access to your home wherever you use their products dead easy

[north escarp]

Whatever this was didn't back read

[long briar]

that's not files

that's your fucking home. That's your life.

[graceful burrow]

Don't you have kids

[north escarp]

I'm missing context time to vanish lol, and 3

[graceful burrow]

You want randos lookin into your house?

[north escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-dissapear-vanished-gif-13003152

[spice pine]

embed failure

[long briar]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[strange elk]

Context here is definitely important. Why LMG dropped them as a sponsor basically instantly

[north escarp]

Not preferably but what's a guy to do

[graceful burrow]

There isn't a good defense for what eufy did and for that they got fucking dragged across the internet and back justifiably

[strange elk]

Not buy anker, or any "cloud security" products you cant host yourself

See link in bio

[graceful burrow]

Not use horribly unsecured products that allow strangers to look at my kids whenever they want?
Idk man
Seems preeetty simple to me

[long briar]

LMG wanted to work with Anker because they're apparently super nice to work with, so they gave Anker a second chance and they messed it up further than you could iamgine

[strange elk]

They were dropped before this?

Or a second time

[long briar]

nono it was when Linus found out on Wan show

[graceful burrow]

It wouldn't have been hard to set up a script to just scrape valid eufy ip camera url's since there was zero verification whatsoever

[north escarp]

Preferably, all I was saying. Is there's likely more things compromising your security, cameras, etc then we realize. Not that I disagree

[long briar]

he was willing to give them a second chance to fix things

but then Anker pretty much double downed on their actions

[strange elk]

Not in that way, there would be backlash

[graceful burrow]

Sure
That doesn't give credence to the idea that because there may be other things, that we shouldn't worry about eufy
That's asinine

[idle nymph]

What did they do

[north escarp]

But I also have no idea what eufy is or the context of this convo so I'm just chillin

[strange elk]

Anker

Idk man its pretty publicly known

[north escarp]

I live under a rock and don't socialize except when I poke at you guys

[strange elk]

Me neither lmfao

[graceful burrow]

It's OK you'll be gone eventually

[long briar]

it's pretty well documented, they messed up big time with how their web access to their cameras was done

which also meant they lied about how it was developed

at which point Anker was like "nop you're lying we're secure" which then some guy was like haha here's ur proof suck it

[craggy rose]

Watchdogs vibes

[north escarp]

I'll go catch up real quick lol

[craggy rose]

🙋

[wary summit]

im bacl

back*

[north escarp]

Ooo I see I share there was a few like this in the early days of the internet
https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/30/23486753/anker-eufy-security-camera-cloud-private-encryption-authentication-storage

[strange elk]

Literally Aiden Pearce

Privacy invasion minigame

[craggy rose]

Yay

[nova ingot]

Had a guy in another discord start foaming when I started talking about my Asus and Nvidia stuff. Told me to take a hammer to it

[strange elk]

How dare you

[north escarp]

I'm not saying your wrong home slice now that I know the context yeah they suck

[strange elk]

Even SPEAK of Assus and Novideo

[graceful burrow]

I'm the one who says hit it with a hammer they're stealing my schtick

[long briar]

Not likely. I host a local setup with no external access.