public-chat

[dreamy rose]

so what if i am running an i5-2450m? you can't say that its unreasonable to be running 10 on this thng without issue because it will consistently outperform the minimum specs. and was literally the same age as peoples systems are now when 10 was out.

[night heron]

for sure yeah stock windows pro/home is awful

[dreamy rose]

its bad, Linux actually runs well.

[night heron]

i always install enterprise LTSC which comes without all the microsoft app bloat and preinstalled games and whatever else

and then i use “shutup10” to remove some more stuff and disable some of the telemetry

works quite well after that

[molten shuttle]

bro dont even get me started on Win's telemetry and lack of privacy

[dreamy rose]

and what? just because i'm actually stuck on a dead end piece of shit my experience is completely invalid, despite it lining up with majority of the cases explaining just how shit it is?

i bet you're the kinda guy that gets up in arms about Windows 7 being EOL and steam not supporting it anymore

then you'd understand how Windows has been on a death spiral since XP, and that they started to ramp it up after 10

people hold on to 7 for nostalgia, when its a matter of fact just VISTA with a couple of tweaks, that released at a time where hardware at minimum spec could keep up wirh Aero.

[dark urchin]

So much for not downloading a car ☠️

[lilac bear]

I love how a lot of issues are solved by "just buy new thing"

[dreamy rose]

well. they expect you to have internet and power and all that crap wherever you go now, so i can see this happen more often than ford themselves

[dreamy rose]

don't forget. made popular by apple.

[molten shuttle]

single 'update' of failure 💀

[dreamy rose]

INB4 you realise nvidia released a linux specific driver version for the GT 540M in 2022.

which it was 11 at that point.

yes maybe it was one thing that they had to fix. but it happened. if theres a need they can do. they might not want to. but they can do

[lilac bear]

even phones are like that
like we are now expecting hardware like the Galaxy S8 to be still viable
because of the S24 promising 7 years of updates

[dreamy rose]

are you forgetting about enterprise?

these MFs can still be using C64s and Windows 98 systems

[dreamy rose]

we shouldn't just now be expecting these to be viable still. we should have always been expecting the S8 to function as a daily driver at this point in time. because i'm pretty sure the hardware inside that thing can still be capable in modern day. likely better than the budget shit that ODMs make

[lilac bear]

legit it is a much better experience than whatever the fuck A15 has

[dreamy rose]

i had an A11. so if the A15 is that bad as you are descrbing then. you have no idea what i was dealing with

[lilac bear]

an A11, god

war vet here

[dreamy rose]

i'm pretty sure the A15 is a genuine bump up from the A11. you know, not running 32 Bit android. actual decent amounts of RAM and Storge.

you know. not a whopping 2GB RAM and 32GB Storage.

[night heron]

archaic specs

[dreamy rose]

ok. not good but its passable. A15 with 4GB of RAM and 128GB Storage, has 5g (if it even is actual 5g at this point)

it actually has a goddamn headphone jack too!

more featured than a fucking iPhone!

[lilac bear]

budget 5G feels like the 5G actively slows down the phone

[lilac bear]

I'm starting to hate the nostalgia for 3.5mm

[dreamy rose]

probably does

[lilac bear]

it's dead, I get it, you probably drank out of the water hose as a kid too

[night heron]

what’s the price on this man

[dreamy rose]

its not really dead, its just trying to be pushed out.

[night heron]

those specs are pretty doodoo even for a cheap phone i wouldn’t buy it

[dreamy rose]

350 AUD

[lilac bear]

might as well buy Pixel 7 at that point

[dreamy rose]

~220USD. maybe 200 since Australian prices have increases

[night heron]

oneplus 8t can be had for $150-200 depending on storage capacity and condition in the USA and one of those with a custom rom would be a way better phone

not sure how used phone prices are where you are tho

[dreamy rose]

i wouldn't buy that thing myself. obv i'd go for something with actual custom ROM support, like a Pixel those generally have decent support

[lilac bear]

galaxy A series overpriced for what you get

[night heron]

yeah budget samsung phones are NOT it

[lilac bear]

take that Linus

I'll never forget you shilling for the A53

[dreamy rose]

when i was thinking to upgrade from my S4 in 2018, i looked at the original pixel and saw it as a fine option. now thats absolutely not the case anymore

[night heron]

the first two pixels sucked ass

my pixel 2xl is the worst phone i’ve ever owned

[lilac bear]

except for the camera

gcam is strong

[dreamy rose]

could be worse. could have had an iPhone 6 in 2020.

[graceful burrow]

still using my 7t but im starting to feel the battery die and seeing minor screen burn in
might fuck about and shop around for a new phone

[night heron]

that would’ve been a better experience

the display on my pixel 2xl was horrifically inaccurate and the phone became unusable if i didn’t restart it every day

[dreamy rose]

in reality no. mine was always sluggish and everything not Discord was a pain to use. piddly 1GB of RAM and shit

[night heron]

one time it just hard locked and started playing a screeching tone that was shockingly loud in the middle of the grocery store

[umbral jackal]

Cameras and software were good
But the batteries died so fast
After a couple of years, my Pixel 2 would last less than 30 minutes on a charge

[night heron]

i almost slammed it on the ground to break it then and there but it stopped

[lilac bear]

according to Apple that is 2GB in Android

[night heron]

i was on the stock rom and barely had any apps installed

[graceful burrow]

are there any phones nowadays that have removable batteries?

[dreamy rose]

my mum got a cheap ODM Telstra brand phone. that has been an actual better experience than the 6 was

[lilac bear]

Fairphone
otherwise out of luck

[graceful burrow]

isnt that eu only or some shit

[dreamy rose]

true. just as dumb as the Intel naming scheme.

[night heron]

in my experience the hardware was great but the software was unacceptably bad

[dreamy rose]

except maybe if someone cared enough they coulda sued for them claiming bullshit like that.

[upper storm]

Bro why at&t 5G so ass

[night heron]

horrendous display calibration and became unusably glitchy if not restarted often

[dreamy rose]

its probably just a rebrand of 4G TBH

[upper storm]

I had better 5G in India

[umbral jackal]

I didn't have that issue
But then again, I didn't have the XL

[upper storm]

I thought US would have faster

[umbral jackal]

It was just the battery life for me

[night heron]

yeah the 2 and 2xl were made by two different companies

[upper storm]

I used to get 1.2 gbps in India

Atleast 500 mbps everywhere

[dreamy rose]

at least phones like the A15 have 5000Mah batteries, that actually last.

[night heron]

iirc the 2xl was a LG phone and the 2 was made by HTC

[upper storm]

I'd be lucky if i get 10 mbps with at&t

[lilac bear]

looks like they have options for outside of the EU if you can buy online

[dreamy rose]

i would like a phone that has both the 5000Mah battery and the headphone jack, that also isn't a piece of ass.

[graceful burrow]

i wish i could just buy another new phone like my 7t for like
200 bucks
phone tech has to have come that far in 5-7 years right?

or are they just gouging to gouge at this point

[lilac bear]

I mean if you can spare the penny then Xperia 5 V exist

[umbral jackal]

I mean, just keep a C to 3.5mm on the end of your headphones

[night heron]

i have no interest in using wired headphones with a phone

[dreamy rose]

i don't follow phones. but. i don't expect them to.

[night heron]

i do not miss having it tucked under my shirt all day

airpods for the win

[graceful burrow]

then why even reply
i wouldnt have taken any of your advice anyway

i wasnt asking you

[dreamy rose]

just saying, they probably don't progress like that

[night heron]

i mean phones haven’t really improved all that much in the last 5 years

the only things that have are the processors

and display brightness which is only relevant under direct sun

[graceful burrow]

shame
why the stagnation when everything else is goin wacko

[lilac bear]

I mean the ultra series phones go up $100 each iteration

[umbral jackal]

Phone prices are just getting insane
My 24 Ultra cost over $600 more than what I paid for my S21 Ultra when it first came out....

[night heron]

there’s not much to improve

we’ve had high refresh oleds for a long time

[graceful burrow]

then why do they keep costing so much every new iteration lmao

deadass might buy an iphone

[lilac bear]

unironically iPhone is good
coming from a android main

[dreamy rose]

they have taken the Apple Fan poorshaming too seriously, much to the dismay of people who actually buy phones for what they are. and want reasonable prices.

[night heron]

not a bad idea if you don’t care about sideloading or emulating or anything of that

[graceful burrow]

im past all that

[night heron]

it’ll be a great experience until its battery eventually degrades

[dreamy rose]

after like a week

[night heron]

idk my dad used his iphone 8 plus for its entire ios update lifespan

[lilac bear]

thats any phone except for Fairphone tbh

[night heron]

it never got glitchy and he never did a factory reset

[spice pine]

15 Pro Max user... love this thing to death

[lilac bear]

Samsung glues their batteries down

[graceful burrow]

i mean, i'm experiencing that right now

[night heron]

iphones deadass just work

[umbral jackal]

Newer Samsung phones have a pull tab to remove the battery

[night heron]

they just don’t let you do many nerdy things

[lilac bear]

but one thing I do like about Samsung over Apple
is the S24U has that anti-reflect screen

[night heron]

that does seem very cool

[lilac bear]

inb4 iPhone 18 has anti-reflect

[graceful burrow]

i dont want samsung in the event i get an exynos chip

[spice pine]

apple isn't typically a fan of the anti-glare coating on screens though

they love to show off their "retina" displays

[night heron]

the new corning gorilla glass coating is a genuine improvement unlike the last 10 years

[graceful burrow]

never heard anything good about them exynos chips

[umbral jackal]

Ye
It's great
But otherwise it feels very similar to my S21 Ultra
Pretty much just the AI features and raw performance at this point

[night heron]

every year they’re like “5x stronger glass”

[dreamy rose]

probably because you've never experienced what android has to offer at its best. but not everyone is there so what does it matter right?

[night heron]

scratched at level 6 and grooves at level 7

[lilac bear]

only difference of S24U to the rest yeah lmaooo

[spice pine]

i'm just glad they finally did away with the curved screens

[graceful burrow]

can you stop making wild baseless assumptions for once

[night heron]

but the new anti reflective treatment that corning is using is the real deal

the reflection handling on the s24u is crazy

[graceful burrow]

jesus man
no wonder, no wonder

[night heron]

it’s the same coating that “Dough/Eve” is using on their gorilla glass monitors

[graceful burrow]

does apple have a certified refurb store

or a list of certified refurb retailers

[night heron]

yah they do

[spice pine]

hey, i know this may come as a shock, but I spend my working days completely surrounded by android and ios devices of all calibers - i've used every major samsung, apple, google, tcl, oneplus, and motorola release in the last few years. I promise you, I know what I'm talking about ❤️

[night heron]

https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished

[dreamy rose]

who said anything about it being baseless? people who buy iPhones generally enjoy iPhones because they haven't found the sweet spot with Android.

[graceful burrow]

please read what she just said

completely fucking baseless

[lilac bear]

I mean if Apple opens more and more to slide loading then Android has some heavier competition

[spice pine]

if I wanted a samsung phone, i could get one completely free as part of the samsung partnership program that it does with carriers - i've opted out every year because I simply don't like them.

[graceful burrow]

hmmmmmmmmm
iphone 12 pro max lookin kinda hot at 320 ngl

[night heron]

samsung easily has the best hardware of any android phone manufacturer but the same cannot be said for their software experience

[dreamy rose]

which, it won't be very heavy since Apple will absolutely find ways to fuck the experience up.

[spice pine]

I had a 12 pro for two years, was a really solid phone

[lilac bear]

obviously they won't let you install a custom OS lol

[dreamy rose]

they did it with the repairability shit. they haven't changes

[night heron]

keep in mind iphones didn’t get 120hz until the 13 pros

[umbral jackal]

Isn't it $679, and $320 off?

[night heron]

if you’re wanting to buy a phone and keep it for a long time check out the 13 pro max it has no major issues

[graceful burrow]

yeah im reading it wrong lmao

they aint lookin too spicy

[night heron]

im on a 13 pro max and i really cannot justify upgrading because this is a flawless phone aside from its lightning port

[dreamy rose]

well obv they will not go to that level ever, but they will find ways to destroy any hope of sideloading being good and make people hate sideloading. they alreday have infected almost every iPhone individual with their bullshit on security

[graceful burrow]

yeah none of these are within budget

[tough siren]

Anyone ever play Jak And daxter?

[graceful burrow]

yes

[tough siren]

Thinking about bidding on this but not sure if it's good. PSP

[graceful burrow]

the psp games arent very good

[tough siren]

I can't link it but it's a psp game

[dreamy rose]

what price is it at right now?

[tough siren]

It's a bid for 7.49

Wasn't sure how high it would go and if i'd have to fight for it or whatever

[dreamy rose]

thats about what i'd pay for a PSP game at max.

[spice pine]

PSP seems like a pretty pointless buy when Vitas can be found just as cheap most of the time, but for less than $10 that's not bad at all if it works

[tough siren]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/355449504031

[graceful burrow]

can vitas play psp game carts tho

[night heron]

ps vita was an extremely cool console IMO

[dreamy rose]

but you know how things go. retro and older titles go crazy expensive because of demand

[graceful burrow]

brotha there's nearly 3 days left in it lmao

[lilac bear]

doesn't help that Google is trying to block APKs by testing out "security" in Singapore
forcing users that opt in to only use the Play Store (and Galaxy Store if Samsung device)

[graceful burrow]

and it's factory sealed
this goin for 30 minimum

[dreamy rose]

if it weren't for deck, it'd be the best handheld to ever exist.

[night heron]

220ppi oled screen in 2011

[spice pine]

Vita has a native PSP emulator built in - but the UMDs are a PSP only thing, one of the PSPs didn't even have the UMD drive

[dreamy rose]

wasn't that the Go? which tried to be like a phone PSP hybrid

[night heron]

retina oled gaming handheld in 2011 is actually nuts

massively under appreciated

[dreamy rose]

ewww, he called it the apple thing.

[upper osprey]

can anyone lmk if this pc part picker is good to buy https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZT3y34

[spice pine]

1st gen Vitas had the retina-quality OLED - but the rest had LCDs iirc

[graceful burrow]

why so much thermal paste lol

[spice pine]

was about to be my q

[night heron]

yah i think ur right

the slim had a LCD i believe

[upper osprey]

it taste good

[spice pine]

the OLED had some... issues, though

[upper osprey]

i accidentally clicked it just oops times lol

[dreamy rose]

not much wrong with this. go for it

just remove that seocond thermal paste,

[spice pine]

My OLED has some weird dark spots and in general, my Vita's practically dead. Steam Deck solos, truly

[upper osprey]

okay cool, i chose 7900xt over 4070 super, idgaf about dlss lmao

[night heron]

steam deck oled is very very good, they fixed basically everything that i hated about the original model

[dreamy rose]

the 2000 model. that one charged with, Micro B.

[upper osprey]

would i have to update bios for the 7800x3d or is it good out of box?

[graceful burrow]

amd has fsr and it's pretty good nowadays tbh
plus intel XeSS in the games that have it, good stuff all around tbh

[dreamy rose]

should be fine at this point

[upper osprey]

okay thanks !

[night heron]

if it existed before i bought my macbook then i would have bought it instead of my macbook

[dreamy rose]

also about this. DLSS is hella weak. not even any competition for driver level upscaling and such.

it works in every DX 11 and 12 title AFAIK

[upper osprey]

yes it doesn’t do shit for me on cod lol

[spice pine]

I want a macbook, but I don't want to buy one until they have a 5g modem in them

[dreamy rose]

why would they put a 5G Modem into a Macbook? or unless you mean 5Ghz capable wifi chips

[upper osprey]

i like nvdias UI but i like the price to performance with AMD, also 20 vram compared to 12 is huge

[dreamy rose]

or is that common nowadays too

[night heron]

i have nothing bad to say about my macbook pro 2021 16” after owning it all this time except that it doesn’t run everything that i wished it did

but i knew that before i bought it so thats not a fault i can pin

[graceful burrow]

i'd love an m1 mac

[spice pine]

I won't give up this ThinkPad until it's dead in the water, I love my cellular modem ❤️

[dreamy rose]

oh yeah those are pretty much never gonna come to macbooks

[night heron]

it has the most stunning display that i own, its battery life is insane, it runs everything that i throw at it flawlessly, and ive never heard its fans a single time the entire time that ive owned it

[neon mesa]

They're not comparable though

[dreamy rose]

why make one with when you can charge someone an Exuberant amount on a Phone and have them link together.

[neon mesa]

The 7900xt is like what $200 more?

[dreamy rose]

its been coming down to 700-750 again

[night heron]

250ppi with near-oled contrast and 1000nits is just insane

it makes everything on the monitor market look like a joke even today

[long hull]

wassup

[night heron]

hi

[graceful burrow]

waddup

[dreamy rose]

i just want my Display to feel like i'm looking torugh a window and feel like i'm viewing in VR

[pliant karma]

thinktank I still have a panasonic toughbook that is not dying anytime soon. Replaced the battery, swaped to ssd. It's thick but very much so alive

[night heron]

the macbook display is basically like that until you move the camera and see its slow pixel response time

but for still or slowly moving images it’s incredible

[dreamy rose]

oh yeah Macs have had ghosting on their screens. proving just even more why you DON'T game on a mac.

[night heron]

the clarity is simply unmatched by anything else currently available

(still image clarity) motion clarity is a joke

[tepid jasper]

woah wtf

[pliant karma]

I was doing parsec gaming off it. It was interesting to say the least

[tepid jasper]

250 ppi is almost double my main display

[night heron]

yeah it’s nuts

it has a basically infinite optimal viewing angle too despite being a locally dimmed lcd

if i look at it from the side the image looks the same

[tepid jasper]

so 4k 16" then?

or something close to that

[dreamy rose]

idk what my shitty pentium school laptop would have. but its like a 14 inch chassis with a 11 inch screen or smth like that the besel is immense

1080P screen

[night heron]

3456x2234

its like almost 4k 16:10

[tepid jasper]

huh

[dreamy rose]

200? dunno if that sounds right.

[night heron]

it is almost 4k resolution with a 16:10 aspect ratio

[dreamy rose]

oh 16:10 rocks. love that shit. just don't have one

[night heron]

not quite 4k but closer to it than it is 1440p

[tepid jasper]

yeah its just an odd res

74 more vertical pixels than standard 4k UHD lol

[dreamy rose]

why haven't we replaced 16:9 with 16:10 as the standard yet?

[graceful burrow]

the majority of content being made is still 16:9

games dont even launch with 16:10 modes sometimes still

[night heron]

16:10 is actually older

it was popular in the 2000s but we switched to 16:9 for god knows why

[dreamy rose]

did that stop us from switching from 4:3?

[graceful burrow]

no, the big push for that was massively increased image quality and clarity
are you just gonna ignore that to make a vapid point?

[calm swan]

linus mtl video 🔥

[night heron]

16:10 makes way more sense for a computer display because you can have a full 16:9 window and your taskbar on the screen at the same time

[dreamy rose]

i know 3kilcks would approve slightly more of 16:10. he's gone as far as to play CS with his screens mounted vertically because he believes its better.

[night heron]

i don’t know why they keep making computer monitors wider when 95% of computer content is portrait

[dreamy rose]

truly loves 4:3 more

[tepid jasper]

4:3 is just an fps player thing

[night heron]

i don’t blame them

i’d totally be down to use three 4:3 monitors

[tepid jasper]

they play it stretched cause bigger head or whatever

[night heron]

i don’t like having hud elements far off to the sides

16:9 27” feels super wide to me

[upper osprey]

only 70 dollars more lol

[neon mesa]

Since when is 7900xt 670

[upper osprey]

the 4070 super i was looking at was a tad bit more expensive

[tepid jasper]

huh personally i really like my 4k 32", even for gaming

[neon mesa]

There's your problem

[upper osprey]

also just bought the parts boys, wish me luck on my first time building a pc( I have a prebuilt rn)

[tepid jasper]

im not fond of UW displays personally, i prefer having more vertical space than horizontal

[night heron]

i’m in the minority of people that love small screens

most people are happy in the 24-32” range but id rather use 16-21” tbh

three 21” monitors is plenty of screen space for me

[manic torrent]

Wow that is certainly weird.

[manic torrent]

27" feels like a toy as a single monitor at a desk 😄

[night heron]

yeah i can understand that seeing as you daily drive 48”

when i was using the aorus fv43u all smaller monitors felt like toys

perspective

[manic torrent]

New chair, much less broken that the other chair!

[night heron]

W

[vernal fossil]

W chair

[gilded forge]

W child too

[pliant karma]

as bob said child claiming another piece of property

[cold prism]

My monitor size and layout preference changes based on what task I'm doing or even which game I'm playing

[north escarp]

This last week or so Probst sold out I'm seeing back up to 750 or so

[cold prism]

27" on the desk and 65" on the wall is a nice rounded setup

[velvet marsh]

Not on a single spool

[analog laurel]

so you know where i could get 6 miles of it 👀

[velvet marsh]

Yeah, it's about $21,000

[analog laurel]

that's fine

[velvet marsh]

Actually monoprice has it at about 4400

[cold prism]

What are you gonna do with it

[velvet marsh]

Buy 32 of these https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=8103

Don't know why you need 6 miles and don't know where to get bulk cabling lol

[swift lava]

stealing internet from walmart

[graceful burrow]

based

[manic torrent]

Steal everything from Walmart.

[velvet marsh]

Walmart typically would have a fiber connection. Probably 1gig minimum

[manic torrent]

yeah but that isn't exactly amazing. I have 1gig at my house, and it's not outrageously expensive

[vernal fossil]

guys

in your opinion, what is the best processor

[sturdy dune]

titan ftw, is that max size?

[manic torrent]

yes, XL

[graceful burrow]

Cyrix Cx486

[sturdy dune]

ah thought it looked wide

[manic torrent]

MP944

[vernal fossil]

what about fro computers

[cedar pebble]

VP1902

[tepid flint]

Hey y'all how is everyone doing?

[quartz maple]

can i get some tech support help on how to get egg out of my microwave grills

never microwave an egg 😭

[tepid flint]

yea, turn vegetarian 🤣

[quartz maple]

😭

[tepid flint]

Is there anyone in the vancouver area who would be willing to lend a hand to someone who is looking to buy their first NAS from marketplace? I found a deal but would love help testing if the system is all working. it doesnt come with drives, just as asustor nas system. I would be grateful and can offer compensation in the form of food or consultancy fees. Mcnuggets are also on the table.

[dusky jacinth]

The Sophon SG2042, mostly because it's just the most ridiculously core-filled SoC I've seen in a while for what it really is.

[chrome vector]

Step 1: Throw away microwave

Step 2: Buy a new microwave

[vapid smelt]

brush

[quartz maple]

ooo ima try a tooth brush tmw

[heady glen]

Okay so I know this will likely get overlooked but I really feel like Linus/LMG needs to do a video on the fact that VMWare ESXi will no longer have a free hypervisor and the overall life of ESXi as a whole is EOL.

https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/2107518?lang=en_US

[fierce moth]

Most serious people/companies use kvm/qemu for virtualization

[heady glen]

???

[stiff stream]

debatable

[heady glen]

My job just transitioned from Hyper-V to vCenter for a hypervisor

[fierce moth]

I'm saying that it isn't really a big topic

[heady glen]

Now that I think about it it would likely be an honorable mention or something in the Tech Quickie

[fierce moth]

If they were gonna cover it, it would be in a techlinked vid

[wispy marsh]

Covered as a quickbit

[crystal pike]

Exynos 9820 SoC

[manic torrent]

It's been covered on tech linked several times I think

[heady glen]

Ah gotcha

My b

[manic torrent]

Haha no they don't. It's a big landscape out there.

[manic torrent]

Oh, and it was on wan show

[heady glen]

Damn work really has me under a rock 😅

Been making too many security policies to watch videos

[manic torrent]

What sort of insane person would work in cyber security!

[wispy marsh]

Not me.

[heady glen]

[wispy marsh]

I am just a lowly servant in the outskirts of the empire where the corporate gods rule.

[pure olive]

don't steal at all

:)

[manic torrent]

That's not fun

[pure olive]

as someone who used to do that a lot; don't pls <3

[wispy marsh]

It's not stealing if you duplicate it.

[pure olive]

that's called plagiarism

[wispy marsh]

Well, that applies to physical objects.

If you apply that to concepts, ideas and literature then yes it's plagiarism

[idle nymph]

why it seem funny

[pure olive]

stop

[idle nymph]

not like im in the Usa wallmart is safe for now

[idle nymph]

why did you think this was a good idea

[manic torrent]

I mean, I'm more advocating for literally backing a truck up to Walmart and taking everything

[polar fern]

“It’s not stealing, it’s reverse inventory!”

[dreamy rose]

runnig CUDA through ROCm. how intresting

https://www.phoronix.com/review/radeon-cuda-zluda

[neon mesa]

still needs linux

[fallow matrix]

help 😭

[fossil frost]

rocm doesnt need linux, rocm/hip are on windows and linux. and this dropin replacement could/should work on either

[neon mesa]

i'll believe when i see

and performance isn't bad due to translation layer on windows

[fossil frost]

i write stuff using AMD HIP+ROCm on windows now, AMD admits that the windows implementation of HIP+ROCm is the better implementation right now, and the translation layer is from CUDA to HIP, its dependant on the gpu rather than the OS

in fact... theres no need to port it, guy has already done the hard work

[neon mesa]

then i wanna see someone run something like stable diffusion
without any complicated workaround
and also run blender with cuda

if there are no more "catch" then i will probably switch over

because i'm highly skeptical of anything with the sounds of "it works with AMD too" inb4 needing to do some complicated shit workaround

considering how expensive GPUs are nowadays

can't afford to beta test it

[fossil frost]

im gonna give it some testing on my 6750xt when i finish work later... work computer has a 3070, so pointless testing it on here 🙂

"ZLUDA is currently alpha quality, but it has been confirmed to work with a variety of native CUDA applications: Geekbench, 3DF Zephyr, Blender, Reality Capture, LAMMPS, NAMD, waifu2x, OpenFOAM, Arnold (proof of concept) and more."

[neon mesa]

Though i'll probably need to wait until next generation
there's no worthwhile upgrade from my 3080ti

and i only got this thing for like 3 months lmao

[dreamy rose]

it might soon be time to retire the "but i need CUDA" argument soon.

[idle nymph]

and thats a good thing

[dreamy rose]

now the only thing that needs to be squashed is the argument for Nvenc.

then nobody has a reason BUT shilling to be buying Nvidia over any AMD option

(not that being an Nvidia shill is justifcation to buy Nvidia cards anyway)

[idle nymph]

eventually ray tracing (though 7000 series do it pretty well)

[idle nymph]

fr

[dreamy rose]

eh. RDNA4 should hopefully shorten the gap on RT.

it better.

[idle nymph]

guess we will see

[lapis lynx]

hi

[indigo atlas]

Hi

[signal spade]

Did bluestacks just start some kind of supply chain attack? Getting trojan warnings from its uninstaller, also 2 reddit posts from last 12h:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueStacks/comments/1apj7hm/bluestacks_installed_a_trojan_as_i_tried_to_do_a/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueStacks/comments/1apd2md/downloaded_the_latest_from_the_official_site/

[eternal hearth]

they have done some shady stuff before so it might just be

[topaz cairn]

hi

[meager slate]

hi

[cobalt pilot]

helloooo

[onyx nova]

Hi !

[crystal mirage]

hello!

[fossil rapids]

Well hello there

[dark idol]

Hi!

[scenic haven]

i havent see anything bad so far

[dreamy thorn]

Can't wait to fix the handbrake so I can Drive my little blue ULEV frog again

[carmine stirrup]

IS THAT A SUPRA!!!?

😄

[dreamy thorn]

Better than a supra

[fast parrot]

Kanye west's vultures 1 is possibly his worst album

[fallow sundial]

it's an MR2 spider

[carmine stirrup]

I knew it wasn't, but it's my default question whenever I see a 2dr toyota

[fallow sundial]

very cute car... wish i could get one

[fallow sundial]

oh hey girl hey

[carmine stirrup]

Yeah, was just gona say I recognize you 😉

[fallow sundial]

[north wraith]

Damn I really hope that Xbox actual make a handheld and it’s decent. A portable that is as powerful as an Xbox One and has all the games that can run on said console…

[fallow sundial]

lel same

[gleaming harbor]

i hope it's digital cause there is no way theres gonna be a disc drive unless it wants to be thicc

[fallow sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/emily-emily-hazbin-hotel-hazbin-hotel-gif-11342839887990233730

YAAAY it worked

[dreamy thorn]

it's the best thing that's ever happened to me

got a banger deal too

it even uses less fuel than my previous car 😭

[fallow sundial]

i also wanna get a BRZ

[dreamy thorn]

its a nice car

but i'd get the 86, i just like toyota a bit too much

too bad the mr2 will be banned soon 😭

[fallow sundial]

ye from what i've heard the BRZ is the nicest

[dreamy thorn]

on another news, just two days for my cameo at the european parliment, this will be fun

[fallow sundial]

it will?

[dreamy thorn]

ye, where i live

[fallow sundial]

wheres that?

[dreamy thorn]

(s)pain

[fallow sundial]

ah

yeah theres some here in Canada but they asking waay to much for them

[dreamy thorn]

if i get hired i could swap in a newer more polluting engine so it gets consider a less polluting car

[fallow sundial]

more polluting to be consider less???

[dreamy thorn]

yeah it's complicated

[fallow sundial]

[dreamy thorn]

essentially what decides whether or not your car is banned is its age, aka what EURO rule it follows

the problem is many cars were overbuilt in terms of pollution for one reason or the other

[fallow sundial]

but there not just outright banning them... there just banning the sale of those cars

[dreamy thorn]

no they actually are

[fallow sundial]

so like you can't even drive them?

[dreamy thorn]

only on weekends

and during the night

[carmine stirrup]

WOW

[fallow sundial]

lmao what the fuck

[dreamy thorn]

like the original measure made sense

[fallow sundial]

i guess unless your rich fuck you

[dreamy thorn]

ban cars from the centers of cities, that's reasonable

but the thing is these bans have extended to nearby towns and basically encompass all the city

[fallow sundial]

what if your only car is one thats getting banned

[dreamy thorn]

it doesn't help that my region (catalonia) has voluntarily decided to lower the popullation threshold to ban cars from 50k to 20k

so basically all catalonia will be off limits

[dreamy thorn]

you can get like, two years of public transport for free if you throw it away and don't buy another one

[fallow sundial]

what about trucks for shipping?

[carmine stirrup]

what does the 50k to 20k measure?

[fallow sundial]

cargo

[dreamy thorn]

people

[fallow sundial]

thats wack

[carmine stirrup]

so they ban cars when the populationis over a certain threshold? I'm not sure what that means

[dreamy thorn]

some places do give you a one year grace period but only for the place you live in

[carmine stirrup]

or below?

[dreamy thorn]

above, anything above automatically needs to start banning stuff

[carmine stirrup]

Ohhhh I see

[dreamy thorn]

even if your town complies with the european air quality standard

[fallow sundial]

i dooon't think thats the right solution

[dreamy thorn]

i agree, but the implementation here hasn't made much sense

[carmine stirrup]

so they don't ban all cars, just the older, theoretically more polluty ones. I get it

Except... passenger cars don't account for a large amount of pollution....

[fallow sundial]

literally this

[carmine stirrup]

like, most passenger cars are on the road for less than 5% of the day

[dreamy thorn]

in barcelona it's currently anything older than 2000 if it's gasoline

but they wanted to raise it to 2007

[fallow sundial]

ye meanwhile cargo ships and air travle are A SHIT TON of co2

[dreamy thorn]

this month, but i think the supreme court will prevent them

yes, but evs are expensive and public transport to many of these smaller towns is non existent

that's very expensive

[carmine stirrup]

hmmmmm

[dreamy thorn]

my family has never owned a car above 20k

[fallow sundial]

EV's aren't that great either because of the materials needed to make the batteries. as well and your just shifting the strain onto the grid

[carmine stirrup]

EVs are currently worse for the environment than gas cars

[dreamy thorn]

nah they aren't

[carmine stirrup]

Yup, batteries and the mines

[fallow sundial]

most places can't handel everyone charging there cars at the same time

[dreamy thorn]

they are better, but banning people's existing vehicles is idiotic

[carmine stirrup]

Look up tilling ponds used in mines. They're an ecological nightmare

[signal spade]

what about hybrids? my mom needs a new car very soon, and I'm considering getting her a hybrid (since poland isn't exactly ready for EV's, and we do 400+km trips sometimes)

[dreamy thorn]

specially when you do it by year

[dreamy thorn]

hybrid is the best of both worlds, go for it

in my opinion you can ban new production all you want, but banning existing vehicles is just a bad thing

[carmine stirrup]

There are thousands and thousands of tilling ponds sitting on top of mine waste that are holding down radioactive/toxic material and tose ponds will need to be maintained for the next 80,000 years

[dreamy thorn]

plus, this law outreach has made many people untrustworthy of laws like these

its a case of giving them a hand and they grab the whole arm

[sand igloo]

Whar are we discussing?

[fallow sundial]

i feel like plug in hybrids are a great compromise while we wait for the infrastructre to build around hydrogen electric fuel cell

[carmine stirrup]

oops... tailing ponds

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2023/02/03/opinion/sickening-reality-tailings-ponds

[dreamy thorn]

catalonia de facto banning old cärs

[signal spade]

nice, do you know if citroen has good hybrid cars? or other decent brands that look/work on par with a 1st gen citroen C4, that won't cost me a leg and kidney? worth looking at used hybrids?

[carmine stirrup]

Seriously, if you talk Hybrds, EVs, or Nuclear power (or just where to get copper) you need to udnerstand tailing ponds

[sand igloo]

I see.

[fallow sundial]

idk where you live but here in NA the grid is old af

[dreamy thorn]

plug in hybrid is the best option we have right now, it's the best of both worlds + its lighter than a pure EV

[barren lily]

hi!

[fallow sundial]

i lterally just said once the infrastructure is built up around it. plus technology is still developing and will become more eficient over time

i disagree

you saw this with EV... they've been around in some form for like 100 years

and its taken till now for them to really be viable... but there not the end all be all

[dreamy thorn]

that's not the problem at hand, how viable EVs or hydrogen cars are is irrelevant, what matters is that banning existing vehicles is something that overwhelmingly affects the less wealthy

[fallow sundial]

what about Nuclear power and fusion power

[dreamy thorn]

john carmack said something a while ago that I have to agree with him, once you go full nuclear you have so much surplus energy that you can afford things downstream being a bit less efficient to reduce the burden on ordinary people

[sand igloo]

Nuclear power is still... fairly insufficient.

And fusion just doesn't exist.

[dreamy thorn]

nuclear is the bee's knees

we don't need fusion, fission is more than enough

[fallow sundial]

ok so if the grid was powered by Nuclear power then there wouldn't be these efficiency concerns when it comes to water electrolysis

[harsh quartz]

It happens months ago, and technically it is positive, but it’s unreliable and unsustainable at best

[neon mesa]

Hydrogen cars literally has no benefit outside of fast refuel

[dreamy thorn]

for sure

[crystal pike]

guys

[dreamy thorn]

well, for enthusiast vehicles, but we already have gasoline for those already

[crystal pike]

just a tiny bit of help

[dreamy thorn]

which is good enough

[harsh quartz]

Well, yes, but again, it’s unsustainable and unreliable

[neon mesa]

We need more nuclear and for solar thermal to be further developed

Not photovoltaic solar

[fallow sundial]

and dismissing the fact that HEFC as an alterative option to EV's with how bad the cost is for mining is not really helping the issue

[sand igloo]

Ehh.... with a max of 40% efficiency for the amount of material to power. It's the safest, but it isn't the most efficient, infact it's about as efficient as solar.

[fallow sundial]

_(\

your a fucking idiot

im just going to not

[neon mesa]

You are

Just because we have nuclear doesn't mean we should waste power on electrolysis

[fallow sundial]

no one is talking to you

[harsh quartz]

Nuclear fission should be used as a 40-50 year holdover while developing infrastructure and technology to rely upon wind and solar 50-100 years from now

[neon mesa]

This is public chat

[fallow sundial]

yes however fusion has made a lot of progress as of late

[neon mesa]

You still need nuclear for baseline power

[lavish path]

going germany this year for a theme park🔥

[sand igloo]

We need to boost research on nuclear while increasing the prevalence of other means of clean energy production to help replace fossil fuel and coal.

[neon mesa]

Wind is well.. wind dependant and solar doesn't work at night

[dreamy thorn]

because higher efficiency has a cost, and the cost of efficient things is not a linear relationship

[lavish path]

i get a haircut, come back, people argue about nuclear energy, peak ltt server moment

[dreamy thorn]

so if you can reduce efficiency downstream just a little bit you can get cheaper things for consumers

[neon mesa]

But again solar panel sucks.
Solar thermal is a significantly better solution

[sand igloo]

But wind is the most efficient source of energy to date.

[dreamy thorn]

of course, nuclear is the cleanest source of energy there is, and it also creates a shit ton of energy so I think we should go all in on that

[harsh quartz]

Yes but it’s stilll nowhere close to where it needs to be, and a lot of nuclear fusion reactors atm rely on helium 3 which we don’t have enough of for it to be long term sustainable

[dreamy thorn]

in the meantime we have fission which is more than enough

[fallow sundial]

there lots of h3 on the moon which can be mined

[neon mesa]

Wind is unreliable because it relies on wind, it should not be the main source, just secondary.

[fallow sundial]

but in the meantime fission is what needs to be focused on

[neon mesa]

Solar thermal should be pursued instead of solar panels

[dreamy thorn]

tbh i never understood why we don't go full nuclear fission

[harsh quartz]

Yeah? And who the fuck is mining it. I know, I’ve seen the same kursgesagt video, but again, that’s 40-100 years in the future at least, and is not relevant right now

[neon mesa]

Solar panels are environmentally horrible compared to solar thermal which are just mirrors

[dreamy thorn]

yes, but existing vehicles can be converted to hydrogen, EV conversions are legally problematic in many places

but hydrogen conversion can be as simple as LPG

[fallow sundial]

fission till we get fusion online in full scale and plug-in hybrids till everything around HEFC gets to the point where it makes sense

[dreamy thorn]

i think banning new production is fine

[fallow sundial]

_(\

[sand igloo]

But it is inefficient (comparable to solar), we are using a lot of uranium for 40% converted to usable energy...

[dreamy thorn]

my problem is with banning existing things

[neon mesa]

Hydrogen has zero advantage over electric... So much sacrifice just to save 5 mins on charging.

[fallow sundial]

am just going to block anyone who has a shit take

[neon mesa]

Most of the time you charge at home anyway and wake up to a full battery

[dreamy thorn]

it's cheaper than solar, and kills less people than solar

[sand igloo]

While it's the safest and it could produce energy at any hour it's also really costly to maintain.

[dreamy thorn]

sounds good to me

[harsh quartz]

Aight how the fuck is my take “shit”? It’s literally the facts. You tellin me someone’s mining the moon right now?

[dreamy thorn]

also for motorsport and enthusiast vehicles, but otherwise EV and gasoline are king

[sand igloo]

Because it's more efficient compared to solar, but less efficient than any other means of clean energy.

[dreamy thorn]

no they aren't, for motorsports mild hybrids are still king

[harsh quartz]

It is useful but production and storing of liquid hydrogen for long terms are where it becomes impractical

[dreamy thorn]

pure EVs are too heavy

hell pure ICE could be faster than hybrids but no top level championship has dedicated to them in a while other than WRC

[neon mesa]

Nuclear -> electricity -> electrolysis -> hydrogen transport -> hydrogen fuel cell -> electricity -> electric motor.

As opposed to
Nuclear -> electricity -> battery -> electric motors

Long haul better of sticking to gasoline tbh

Most of the pollution is from the cars anyway

Cost wise no

Hydrogen is more expensive per mile

[harsh quartz]

The best long haul resource we have would be trains. We need to sort the power grid and invest in fast electric train transport and rely less on long haul trucking nationwide

[dreamy thorn]

anyways i'm off to have lunch, please enjoy this picture of my diesel-electric car

[signal spade]

i know right... more needs to be spent on public transport like trains and EV or electric grid buses

[neon mesa]

Need both

Let trains handle coast to coast hauls

[signal spade]

yeah for last mile or in places away from rails you're gonna need trucks

[harsh quartz]

Okay, so have hybrid/electric trucks for medium range hauls

[fallow sundial]

pure EV's are bad because of thee environmental cost on mining as well as the not being able to handle the strain of EVERYONE charging at once. plug in hybrids are a great stop gap while we focus on building out the grid and other infrastructure around HEFC as well as Nuclear fission... till fusion come's online in full scale then we switch 100% over to HEFC.

boom im done

thats all im going to say

[neon mesa]

Cool, just because we have nuclear doesn't mean we waste 4x power for the same mile
For personal transport hydrogen makes no sense

[dreamy thorn]

yeah, gasoline makes more sense than hydrogen

[neon mesa]

Nuclear is still not infinite energy

[dreamy thorn]

hell, E100 makes more sense than hydrogen

[harsh quartz]

No but it’s as close as we can realistically get for the time being. It’s stable, which is what we need

[neon mesa]

Solar thermal is an underrated underdeveloped technology

It's a better solar

Solar panel materials are an environmental concern

[fossil frost]

its both... any EV that does less than about 80k over its life, is about as bad as a ICE car, any car that does more than 80k over its life (so almost all of them) is a net positive for the planet...

[neon mesa]

While solar thermal is just a circular array of mirrors

[fossil frost]

i dont mean just the battery, i mean the car as a whole, everything that goes into creating either car... on average, an EV matches an ICE car up until about 80k miles, it WAS over 100k miles a few years ago... and its still improving

[neon mesa]

The battery is the big chunk of the CO2 emission tho...

The rest doesn't need any miles driven to be equal to an ICE car because they're the same

[fossil frost]

its not me being against EVs, its been shown, by many studies, many times... its also been shown that its getting better... better batteries and better manufacturing of the motors, is making it better...

recycling metal uses fuck tons of water and other chemicals, no matter whether you use liquified ancient trees/dinosaurs, or... those same things but burned in a big factory

[neon mesa]

Water is renewable, it just evaporates and rain back down

[fossil frost]

sort of... but not always

[neon mesa]

Basically always, where do you think they go?

The sewers also go back to the ocean

[fossil frost]

if contaminated water is easily purifiable, why didnt all that radioactively contaminated water from fucashima get dumped as-is into the ocean, instead of being purified?

why did the fallout from chernobyl get carried, IN THE WATER, in the rain, over 1000s of km?

[neon mesa]

Because tritium is smaller than water molecule...

[fossil frost]

ohh yeah, because just evaporating water doesnt get everything out of it

[neon mesa]

It does...

But evaporating water with tritium is just aerosolizing the radioactive material

Which is... Not good

[fossil frost]

noope, especially not if those chemicals disolved into it have a lower boiling point than water, which several of the acids in batteries have

[harsh quartz]

Yes but we’re also working towards more sustainable battery technology, which seems to be getting ignored here. We’re talking about fusion like it’s already here but we’re ignoring techs that are also being worked on

[fossil frost]

you do realise that evaporating water, can still carry a lot of other shit with it right? you have done anything beyond basic chemistry and know that things are not as simple as high school chemistry books make them seem to be right?

[neon mesa]

Evaporated water don't carry anything

That's why we use differential in boiling point to purify stuff?

[harsh quartz]

So why are we not able to get 100% pure distillations?

[fossil frost]

https://www.youtube.com/@NileRed watch any of his videos where hes trying to evaporate water off something, and that he has to do it several times, because it ALWAYS carries some shit with it, and he ALWAYS vacuum filters it too

[neon mesa]

Because there will always be SOME contamination no matter what you do. What matters is if it's small enough

1 atom of contamination is basically enough to make it not 100%

[harsh quartz]

1-4% might not seem like a lot but on industrials scales that can be tons of material

[fossil frost]

Nile is a professional chemist... and shows that its not always that easy to purify water

feel free to go through the videos and then come back and tell me its super easy

[neon mesa]

I mean I'm not saying it is, but it is certainly trivial compared to say... Making nuclear fusion

[harsh quartz]

But right now that’s where the research is going, and it’s working. That’s what’s getting the funding

I’m sorry the fuck?

[neon mesa]

There are literal AliExpress water filters you can buy, the 3 stage one

[fossil frost]

hes a professional chemist in a professional lab... hes not backyard at all... but yeah, you want to dismiss me or nile because you are too closed minded to go and look and too closed minded to even look into something that contradicts your own thought process, then feel free, i dont care

[neon mesa]

Even at small scale it's quite cheap

[fossil frost]

the youtuber that is a professional chemist, and makes youtube videos on the side

[harsh quartz]

You do realize chemistry doesn’t change when it’s a big or small scale right? Atoms don’t care how much money your lab equipment costs

[sturdy dune]

i have arrived at the military entrance processing center

[fossil frost]

niles lab cost a lot... which this guy would know if he even bothered to watch one single video

[harsh quartz]

MEPS, I’ve been there a few times, prepare to have very awkward experiences and pee in a cup

[sturdy dune]

wouldnt call his lab professional but it is pretty nice

[neon mesa]

Water filtration on an industrial scale is very much trivial for the big guys...
Trying to make your own filtration is not

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but it’s not a hillbilly distillery either

[neon mesa]

Nile is a professional but he's still ONE person

Trying to basically DIY a filter

[sturdy dune]

all niles experiments are usually only done by him and his brother

[harsh quartz]

Who the fuck compared shit in 3d printers

[neon mesa]

It's an analogy

[fossil frost]

what you mean is, the comment you replied to supports your closed minded view, and everything else does not... so you are prepared to ignore everything else to avoid having be wrong about something

[harsh quartz]

It’s a weird and very niche analogy

[sturdy dune]

i hope it tastes good

[neon mesa]

like...
Making GPUs are trivial at this point for something like TSMC who spew millions a year
But you, one person, can't make a gpu more advanced than some shitty 4-bit one

That's an analogy i can think of

[fossil frost]

there are plenty of people who have made quite advanced GPUs on FPGAs and released the source on github

[harsh quartz]

It’s weird because not many people will know the names of industrial 3d printers , the whole point of the analogy will be missed by anyone who isn’t an enthusiast

[neon mesa]

Designing and manufacturing is very much different

Tell me when they DIY a 4nm chip

[fossil frost]

the only thing stopping them from being more advanced is that they are not a multibillion dollar company like nvidia and TSMC would just laugh at them

[harsh quartz]

I didn’t say it wasn’t valid I said it was weird and niche

[neon mesa]

Same thing as nile filtration

Nile is not a multi billion dollar water company

[harsh quartz]

That your aware of

[harsh quartz]

But again, why can we not distill 100% purity? Those are multimillion dollar companies that run those distilleries

[fossil frost]

its not, the gpu one is a matter of TSMC not wanting to do business with you because the low scale isnt worth it, the other is someone doing chemistry in the same way that anyone else would do it but with differently sized equipment

[neon mesa]

Anything 100% is impossible

[harsh quartz]

Again, that’s technically not wrong, but not exactly relevant

We’re talking about situations where we do need to

[neon mesa]

There is none

[sturdy dune]

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[harsh quartz]

Huh, can’t ping mod on mobile

[sturdy dune]

its gone

[neon mesa]

It's always 99.99999
Just add more nine if you need more purity

1 atom is enough to not make it 100% pure

[steel marsh]

the person with the shady af nitro link

[harsh quartz]

Doesn’t for me

[fossil frost]

but you said that distilation makes it "pure"... but now you are saying that its not pure? so pure is subjective...

[harsh quartz]

And the mods are probably watching this argument anyways since it’s gone on for so long

[harsh quartz]

Typically it’s closer to 1-4%

[neon mesa]

Pure within reasonable measures
When people think of pure, usually drinkable water

[fossil frost]

distillation is a purification process, but it doesnt make it "pure" on its own. especially not so depending on what is dissolved into the water

[neon mesa]

Going semantics on pure is just stupid

Of course it won't be pure atomic isolation of water

[harsh quartz]

Yes but it’s one thing to say it’s not pure because it has minerals and electrolytes and another to say we didn’t fully purify this sewage

[neon mesa]

Your average amazon distilled water had 99.9% purity... Lol

[fossil frost]

fyi, industrial, or home lab, or in a forest ... benzene and toluene, and many VOC's cannot be distilled out of water because they have a similar molecular weight and boiling point

dont have to believe me, just read https://extensionpubs.unl.edu/publication/g1493/html/view#:~:text=Certain pesticides%2C volatile solvents%2C and,is boiled in the distiller.

distillation is a purification process, but doesnt make water pure, its just part of the process

[neon mesa]

Anyway, we can filter these water enough to make it safe

Meaning those water is not wasted when recycling metal

[fossil frost]

yeah, they wont be removed unless you use another process

you are saying that distillation alone is enough... and im saying its not

[neon mesa]

Well it's basically zero on a practical sense

[fossil frost]

really?

[harsh quartz]

Why are we even on this topic, where’s the nuclear reactors go

[neon mesa]

Going for atomic level of purity is just going semantics on the word pure

[fossil frost]

you are now arguing as if i said water cannot be purified... i said that distillation alone isnt good enough, you both said that once evaporated, its clean... and now you are backtracking...

either way, my build has completed, all my tests have passed... so... back to work... bye 🙂

[neon mesa]

It's clean

Your tap water is dirtier than that "unpure" water

After evaporation

It's not 100% pure.
But it's enough to be called clean

Hell evaporation is probably overkill.
You can use a three stage filtration system which anyone can buy then use UV light disinfection at the end and it'll be clean and drinkable

[cedar pebble]

if you want overkill, buy ultrapure water

[elfin solar]

tap water tfw

[cedar pebble]

$1k per liter for ultrapure water 😋

[rain dust]

would that actually do sth to your body lmfao?

[cedar pebble]

it wouldnt be good to drink

[rain dust]

i thought so due to the fact that distilled water is bad too

good to know, i wont buy anymore ultrapure water :(

wasted my morgage and gambled my kidney for that water...

[cedar pebble]

i mean, its technically toxic

[rain dust]

im built different tho

technically.

[cedar pebble]

🗿

[lilac bear]

bro is built different

[valid trellis]

Distilled water is super simple to do at home. You are just essentially boiling water, having surface for it to condense on, and then a place to collect that condensation.

Most people just use a large bot with a lid upside down and a small cut suspended under it. You add ice to the top to help aid the condensing process and wait for the water to fill the cup. Rinse and repeat until you have the amount you want

[neon mesa]

Two of them was going semantics on how it isn't "100% pure"

And how it's also very difficult to do at home

I mean sure difficult if you're trying to achieve 99.9% super pure shit considering even your container is probably contaminated but not really if you just need drinkable water.

Not hard for the industrial bros however

That's why these distilled water are so cheap

[cedar pebble]

Yeah you definitely shouldn’t go overkill for drinkable water

[fossil frost]

no, what was being said by you and the other guy was "distilling water removes everything from it", and i pointed out and provided sources, that isnt true... it can remove stuff from it that is heavier than it... and has a different boiling point, but you require other processes to remove things that have a similar molecular weight and boiling point such as benzene and toluene and certain VOCs. and its not arguing about the levels of purity, its pointing out that saying "distilling removes everything", which is what you said... .is wrong

so rather than backtracking, provide all the info

[neon mesa]

It basically removes anything

The rest is rounding error

[fossil frost]

ok

[cedar pebble]

For most things, distilled water is good enough. But for some lab stuff or even semi manufacturing, there’s wayyyyy too much in it still. Definitely not a rounding error for precision stuff

(eg UPW is essentially 100% H2O)

[calm gyro]

Call me the Furry that touches grass (Schritte means steps in german)

[eternal hearth]

17 steps, nice

[stoic beacon]

In case this wasn't sarcasm, the . is their version of the comma, so that's 17,161 steps

[eternal hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-mr-fresh-multiverse-cat-cat-eating-cat-eating-kibble-gif-11742453605070230556

[lilac bear]

me fr

[hearty spear]

god damnit:

Do I return the 5600x3d I got for 200$
and upgrade to the (new) 5800x3d bundle (CPU, ATX Board, 16GB 3200CL16 RAM) for 300

And flip the board/RAM?

[sand igloo]

Yes.

[stoic beacon]

Dare I say....it depends?

[sand igloo]

The 5800X3D is a gaming beast.

[split swift]

Until you play city skylines 2

[hearty spear]

It's a really good Asus TUF B550

• 32GB RAM, I figure I can get at least 100 bucks for the pair

[split swift]

Then all cpus shit the bed

[sand igloo]

That is an exception...

[hearty spear]

fuck that stupid, unoptimized, poorly made game

[split swift]

I got like 10 fps going from a 5800x3d and 32 gigs at 3200mhz to a 7800x3d and 32 gigs at 6000mhz

[split swift]

It would be fun if it didnt have shitty frame time lag spikes and low fps on 1440p low with my 7800x3d and 4080

[hearty spear]

it's actually a really tough decision to make

[mortal kraken]

edge? Dang. Dead coverage

[full fossil]

guys

if y=ax if y=1 and a=6 is x=0.16?

[spice pine]

go somewhere else to do your math homework

[marsh aurora]

Is anyone here good with vyos?

[full fossil]

vyos?

yes lmao

[marsh aurora]

Its a networking router

[full fossil]

I thought of Sony vaio

[hearty spear]

X= 1/6

[full fossil]

1/6=0.16......

[hearty spear]

1/6 doesn't reduce to an even decimal

[full fossil]

yes ik

why are we still talkin bout it

[hearty spear]

you asked a question and I wanted to give the correct answer

[silver sun]

56

[polar fern]

There is in fact a forum where people can ask some of these questions

[quartz maple]

because we ran out of clean water to boil the eggs

[quartz maple]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-throwing-trash-can-at-someone-guy-trash-can-sleep-gif-19448922

[molten drift]

i think i just had an amazing idea

WWE has a ppv called Tables ladders and Chairs... now get a corperate sponsor of ikea for the ppv....

[calm swan]

linus math tips

[full fossil]

fr

[idle nymph]

How did you think this is a good idea

[hasty needle]

What are the best cheap indoor cameras? Like Wyze, Eufy, Reolink, etc? I used Wyze and Eufy and I liked Eufy a fair bit, I just haven't been up to date on smart cameras.

[lavish path]

i never would

[graceful burrow]

eufy is great if you dont care about serious privacy concerns

[hasty needle]

I don't really, it's just to see my grandmother as she's just getting out of rehab.

[graceful burrow]

i feel like that kind of situation would make me more wary about privacy concerns

[hasty needle]

What about using eufy with homebase 3?

[crystal pike]

anyone has a good apple music playlist

[meager belfry]

👋

[wild vine]

whats the term a gpu suffers from unbalanced weight placement?

idk what itz calld

[left venture]

gpu sag

[wild vine]

sag on deez nuts

gottem

[lilac bear]

mods

[vapid smelt]

But yours haven't dropped yet

[vapid zephyr]

That's a good one

[fair swallow]

hello people of the internet!

[left venture]

"your mom was there to catch them" wouldve been such a good comeback 🤣

[lavish path]

hello

[indigo atlas]

no

[waxen verge]

Hi

[manic torrent]

dont ask to ask

[manic torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/meat-meat-popsicle-gif-11100443

[fossil frost]

found myself being too happy and too pleased with myself this afternoon, after a decent day at work and after eating many chocolate covered pancakes... so i decided to scroll through twitter for 20 minutes, and now i hate the world, everyone in it, and myself, but mostly, everyone else

[manic torrent]

twitter is even worse for this now

[fossil frost]

yep... everything about it is terrible... i follow like 11 people, i wanna see what they have to say, and nothing else from anybody else... yet.. i seem to see all the worst bullshit from the world, and nothing from the people i actually want to see

[dreamy rose]

i realised that one part of windows is actuallt pretty solid. that would be the task manager. only because its literally nessasary for it to be rock solid

[vapid smelt]

You need to follow more cat/dog accounts

[fossil frost]

yet it spikes even a 5950x to 100% cpu usage for a second or so when its first ran 😄

[ionic abyss]

hi

[dreamy rose]

ah yes, thats what twitter is like. feeds you shit you don't wanna see in hopes you interact.

[ionic abyss]

i must admit i missed this discord

[dreamy rose]

really?

[ionic abyss]

yes

[vapid smelt]

Hey it's not nice to lie

[dreamy rose]

i call bullshit on that Damon

[ionic abyss]

i am embarrassed i got hacked

[vapid smelt]

https://futurism.com/cybertruck-owners-already-rusting

[fossil frost]

a tesla vehicle sucks balls and hasnt been been built or tested properly? never

[ionic abyss]

your windows are bullet proof just avoid medium sized steel balls

[fossil frost]

"its perfectly bullet proof as long as you dont try and shoot it with bullets"

[ionic abyss]

when i say bulletproof im speaking will stop 50cal ap rounds

[vapid smelt]

Welders blankets" with resin are just as bullet "proof" resistant as the cyber truck

Just slap them in your interior door panel

[manic torrent]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8WXB0rBLaAo

[fossil frost]

hmmn... ironman uk have annouced the new routes for this years race... not only were previous years races close to where i live, making it easy to train for... the new course goes past the end of my street... making it even easier for me to train on course 😄

[vapid smelt]

Now your kids can pass you a water bottle when you pass by the house

[ionic abyss]

so i dont need a fully armoured f450 with outer plating rated to stop 50cal non ap and 1.7" interal bulkhead of armoured and lvl 4+ bullets stopping pannels behind that?

i would be fine with just a cyber truck

right?

[fossil frost]

the 12yo claims he can cycle the bike route with me... i disagree 😄

[vapid smelt]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3583320998607689/?ref=browse_tab&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&referral_story_type=top_picks nah you need this

[ionic abyss]

umm

[vapid smelt]

If they had a ebike they could

[ionic abyss]

that is a toy

lol

the f450 doors are rated to stop a 75mm round if you include the external plates and internal bulkhead

that and they doors require hydraulics to open and close

[vapid smelt]

The Sherman's gun

[fossil frost]

doubt.. 😄 ... im on my own this weekend though, so im gonna do a lap of the course and see how it feels... may even do the full route (since its a 70.3 rather than a full distance)... should be able to get through 56 miles in about 3 hours without overdoing it

[vapid smelt]

So you're cycling across the whole UK?

[fossil frost]

no, but i plan to do that next year, and in a few years, i plan to do it from top to bottom too

[vapid smelt]

What's the shortest point across main land UK isn't it like 70miles

[fossil frost]

john o grotes to lands end is about 1200 miles, northern most tip to southern most tip, and the route is less than flat... 😄

[fossil frost]

yeah, theres a point thats 70 miles wide, but thats in a straight line, the shortest navigable distance is about 120 miles or something like that

the one nearest to me, the route is called "the way of the roses" because it passes through lancashire and yorkshire.. and that is 170 miles long... my ex-father-in-law did it over 3 days a few years ago, several members of my cycling club do it in 2 days... myself and some other members of the club plan on attempting to do it in a single day, single stint

[ionic abyss]

in the next day or 2 ill load linux and reinstall windohs

[shut lichen]

this is the equivalent of a delorean owner complaining about surface rust because they haven't looked after the steel properly

[ionic abyss]

malwarebytes gave me a clean bill of health but i belive a fresh windows install wont hurt

[peak phoenix]

I mean, making a car out of steel that you don't coat with clear coat or paint is...stupid.

Fuck knows what Tesla was thinking.

[fossil frost]

i know exactly what they were thinking, its cheaper to not bother

[harsh quartz]

It’s kinda funny too

[scenic charm]

Isnt the cyber stanless?

[fossil frost]

stainless can still rust, just slower

scratches speed that up too

[scenic charm]

There will always be something an AV can miss

[ionic abyss]

i agree

malwarebytes is good not perect

perfect*

spybot s&d is a must have for the imunization function

[fallow pulsar]

Hello all, idk why it just dawned on me that ltt had a discord

[cursive grove]

am i an idiot to buy trident z royals?

[merry nacelle]

Wait. There's no clear coat on the cybertruck?

[scenic charm]

ive never seen stainless rust

[ionic abyss]

i rember when spybot was a must have program

[fossil frost]

clearly you have never left cutlery in the bbq by accident 😄

left some in the bbq over winter a few years ago, came back to the rustiest shit

[ionic abyss]

i found hickory smoked knives arent easy to chew

lol

[scenic charm]

i have

spotless

Tho thats pure pure stainless not the alolys you get today

[wind heart]

You bought that ugly ram...

God have mercy.

[fickle jolt]

NV7 or NV5?

[dreamy rose]

i mean are you satisfied paying too much for RAM?

may as well buy a Macbook with 32GB of RAM for an extra 600 Dollars over the 200 they force on you for 8GB alone

[fickle jolt]

Any recomend some thick 140mm non rgb black fans?

[cursive grove]

I got them used for like 90 cad

So idk. And there 4 sticks of 8g 3600mhz

[dreamy rose]

huh, used. thats better

probably still not good

[cursive grove]

It performs decent with a 5800x3d

Just that I can't run it at full speed cus maybe mobo limitations?

[fallen rover]

which color scheme should I go for?

[crystal pike]

Ask a villager

he'll give you the perfect answer

[fallen rover]

I live in a town that's dark atm

I have cerfew at 9 pm

[lilac bear]

yes and no
because the cybertruck literally has no coating

and Tesla states it must be dried immediately and washed often to prevent stains from oils such as your hands on the door

[crystal pike]

Sarcasm

Minecraft is what I meant

[eager notch]

I bought a refurbished ROG ally,

Here's how the SSD was secured in place,

Ie, not at all

[fallen rover]

my mate has a realms server but I don't wanna play on it atm as I'm on a call with another mate

[crystal pike]

Id say previous owner did this

and the heatpipe is bent

Should've just gotten a steam deck

[eager notch]

I have both

[crystal pike]

what a waste of money

but who am I to judge

I don't care but the bent heatpipe is there dock

[wise pumice]

noot noot

🐧

[wheat karma]

Damn - Rebel Moon has CGI like crap… didn’t expect this from my greatest hero Zack Snyder

[wise pumice]

i heard its terrible

[wheat karma]

But it’s Zack Snyder! Gotta support the man!

[wise pumice]

meh

i support people when they make good movies

[eager notch]

Well I have a few things I don't like about the deck, the performance and screen being two of them.

I'm probably going to sell my deck, the SSD upgrade on the deck was quick a bit more of a pain than the ally. I watched like 1 video that was 3 minutes long and then it took me like 10 minutes to do.

On the Ally

[upbeat pelican]

Why is Broadcom ruining VMware?

[hoary cairn]

VMware is going through a shit time now

[harsh quartz]

That’s a very broad question

[hoary cairn]

Ha

[manic torrent]

for money

[left venture]

same except for discord, its pretty bad

[wheat karma]

Damn - I was wrong. Zack Snyder is the God Emperor of Hollywood

[whole swallow]

Technically that's Henry Caville currently

[spare thicket]

Didn’t expect the b650 Aorus elite ax ice to be gray 😅

[wispy marsh]

Happy Valentine's Day!

[tawny venture]

Another person leaving?

https://x.com/JakeDaynes/status/1757574652388393086

Jake Daynes 🇨🇦 (@JakeDaynes) on X

If anybody needs a software contractor let me know! Proficient with GoLang, NodeJS, Android tooling, desktop application development, etc

Twitter · Feb 14, 2024, 1:17 AM

[gilded stratus]

Hi people

[lilac bear]

LTT has fallen

[gilded stratus]

0-0, i can post images here?!?

[trim kindle]

O my gosh I knew it!

lol

[wispy marsh]

Yes post images

[ionic abyss]

was that potato vision the game or just bad video

[mystic tundra]

bread.
what is going on

[ionic abyss]

im activating humble choice keys that a hacker didnt manage to sell yet

not sure about other folks

so many games i didnt care about

[ionic abyss]

but i wont let them make them any cash if i can grab them

[full fossil]

yo guys what will happen if you update bios with its current version

[ionic abyss]

you will get a updated bios?

[mystic tundra]

if everything works, i’d probably not update the bios

[ionic abyss]

or it may reset if its the same

[mystic tundra]

which cpu do you have

[full fossil]

unless you need a new cpu that doesnt support it

[full fossil]

a4-6300, just having an idea of updating it because a8-7680 only support to 2015 bios versions

and yes im upgrading my cpu

[mystic tundra]

damn old bulldozer cpus

[full fossil]

I'm brokie

i only have like 50 dollars on me

[full fossil]

anyways

50 dollars to a a8-7680 and rx 560

compared to what i have right now

a4-6300 and gt 720

[mystic tundra]

i mean, it’s an upgrade but i would probably not invest money into ancient athlon cpus

save somehow and get smth better

steal some pc from an office lmao

[full fossil]

im not waiting another 5 years

[full fossil]

thats how i got my gt 720

[mystic tundra]

save sum $200 dollars

[full fossil]

i dont even have a job

[mystic tundra]

enough you to get some 3rd gen i7 and a rx 470 prolly

[full fossil]

im into AMDs

i dont understand intel language

[mystic tundra]

eh, amd sucks up right until ryzen if we’re talking about modern’ish’ish cpus

[full fossil]

literally

[mystic tundra]

either intel or ryzen

[full fossil]

i dont understand intel

their brands are confusing

[ionic abyss]

intel is more complex now

[full fossil]

the only thing i know is their latest

[mystic tundra]

save up another hundred bucks to atleast

and snap/snipe some really good deal

[full fossil]

im not using this a4-6300 for another year barely 20 fps

[ionic abyss]

you have core and core ultra and pentium and celerons

[mystic tundra]

takes some patience and luck but it’s possible to get something like 3770k with rx 470 for $150

[ionic abyss]

then you have xeons and server chips

[mystic tundra]

not that uncommon

[full fossil]

rx 470 is powerful than rx 560?

[mystic tundra]

rx 500 is basicly just rx 400 refresh so, definitely

isn’t rx 560 just rx 460 refresh

[full fossil]

huh

[mystic tundra]

just like 470 -> 570, 480 -> 580

[ionic abyss]

the 470 is faster

[mystic tundra]

they perform like 5% apart

[full fossil]

wtf intel cpu are confusing but amd gpu are also confusing?

[mystic tundra]

haven’t seen recent stuff

[ionic abyss]

xeon once had a version with more than 4x the cache than normal version but i dont think intel does that now

[full fossil]

just let me run max 1080p for now 🥱

[ionic abyss]

intel realy didnt make that avalible to us normal folks

[mystic tundra]

old athlon bulldozers won’t prolly let you that

save up

[full fossil]

i dont play demanding games

[mystic tundra]

which games

[full fossil]

im also too broke to buy games

[full fossil]

team fortress 2 aint demanding

[ionic abyss]

so everyone cant play all games on 1080p ultra settings?

[mystic tundra]

man just buy off some office pc at garage sale

don’t upgrade that system it’s crusty old

[full fossil]

phillipines doesnt have a garage sale

[mystic tundra]

save a little, that a8 won’t probably get you even 60 fps in tf2

[ionic abyss]

u can build a nice pc if you have a decent gpu