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[summer folio]

🤷🏻‍♀️

[near nymph]

Dangit

[summer folio]

Tough luck

[near nymph]

Mods got me?

Loool

[carmine stirrup]

Huh... I've never gotten a payment from them

[summer folio]

Well, I never said it was a great system.

[carmine stirrup]

Sounds like orc nonsense

[summer folio]

Believe me, I don't like paying extra for my harddrives just so Per Gessle(swedish folksong writer) gets Moar money.

[carmine stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-no-curse-in-elvish-treachery-tongues-of-men-gif-14489517

I'm here for it. At least some content creators get some of your cash after you steal from us all.

[shut lichen]

The only ones getting the cash are the ones already rolling in money lol

[ivory oyster]

Honestly, media that isnt being produced or given a reasonable way to own said media shouldnt be enforced to piracy

And if you say "Used Sales" are an answer it does not in any way benefit the publishers/developers/filmmakers, etc.

And it's not bad to buy physical media used, for modern game consoles it can help you save a buck for sure, but if were talking about PlayStation 3, or maybe GameCube games where there hasn't been a modern system, or for a lot of games, port even whats the point

[mint ore]

why is the ubiquiti doorbell camera thing so crusty 😭 and WHY IS LINUS' FACE LIKE THAT.

[graceful burrow]

Homie has never seen a wide angle lens

[old yacht]

Homie really can't take a normal ass selfie

[grizzled saffron]

Do i buy elden ring or cyberpunk

[mint ore]

me whe nthe cornflake

[wispy marsh]

Yes.

I've recently completed cyberpunk and I'm in my first leg of the Elden Lord journey

You can change car colors for the Rayfield Caliburn :3

[grizzled saffron]

I mean i mostly play on the go on my ally so elden ring should be better right?

[wispy marsh]

They took away the banshee sfx for it though

[wispy marsh]

They're both alright, just play 2077 on lower settings and difficulty

Elden Ring has one difficulty: the bosses will make you seethe and rage

Sooooooo pick your 🧪~~~~

I like Elden Ring because it feels familiar to DS2 but ymmv, yknow?

[chrome vector]

Don't awaken him. He's watching you, Elijah.

[wispy marsh]

[carmine stirrup]

I feel like that's a video. Have Linus test out selfie cams on cameras

[wispy marsh]

Omg elijah in the latest video

<3

[ancient pumice]

hi

[full fossil]

bogos

bint

whats on our minds today?

[sick coral]

this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcbluFyQXeA

the ps3 was such an interesting console

like even before you get into the games, the ps3 is a really ambitious project in terms of the hardware and the story behind it

it was quite literally a supercomputer for everyone to keep in their homes

[eternal hearth]

open na noor

[steel marsh]

that commerical is weird

i had a ps3 on release

[spark nimbus]

Got an iPhone 12 Pro, been holding off on upgrading to the 15 Pro. Now I'm wondering if I should wait for the 16 Pro. Nothing's wrong with my 12 Pro and it does everything I need it to do, but USB-C charging would def streamline my cables

[steel marsh]

i think its funny that ps3 emulation is more mature than 360 emulation with xenia

[sour merlin]

How big of a difference in performance are Ryzen 5 3600 and Ryzen 7 5800x? Big right?

[full fossil]

I swear most pc cases don't need to be as big as they are there usually so much dead space in it if you aren't custom water cooling

[dense coral]

Maybe your best option is to wait for the next one, then buy the current one at a hopefully reduced price used

No idea what the phone market looks like rn, let alone iphones

[full fossil]

Id say just hold off till it's not working for you anymore. There's no point changing just for a cable, you'll get the newest thing anyway it's just a case of when.

[spark nimbus]

Yeah one thing I've been thinking about is the new stuff (esp USB-C) hasn't had all the quirks nailed out

[thick silo]

Same

I still love lbp

[steel marsh]

lbp ?

[full fossil]

Exactly and if you get it now but then a couple of months down the line they inevitably sort out the problems with it you'll be so annoyed.

[thick silo]

Little big planet

[steel marsh]

oh, i like the resistance games plus its where i played og yakuza/like a dragon 3, 4 and 5 on

also skate

[thick silo]

I was 6 years old 💀

I did play uncharted tho

[full fossil]

Thought you were 7

[thick silo]

Was 7 when I made this username

[spark nimbus]

Yeah I remember in 2020 I ordered my MacBook Pro the day before they announced the new Macbook (still 6 months before the M1 chipset came online). Called Apple and got it upgraded for free. Double the storage and got the 4 USB-C ports instead of the 2 I had selected.

[full fossil]

Lol nice

[thick silo]

All the way back on animal jam

[carmine stirrup]

Agree

Fractal ridge can fit pretty much anything most people need and has good airflow to boot

[full fossil]

The cooler master qube 500 can fit a eatx mobo and a full length GPU and that case is small

[carmine stirrup]

or that, yeah

she says as she looks around at her 4 chungus cases

*saved only by the 3 SFF cases *

[full fossil]

We should abolish chungus cases unless you're doing a custom loop

[carmine stirrup]

convection isn't in play

[full fossil]

It's a non issue if you have good airflow

[carmine stirrup]

the force of convection is overcome by a single 120mm fan at 100rpm

Its a very, very weak force

[dense coral]

maaaan I remember playing aj all the time

I was so cracked on that game

[heady night]

I hate it when my hard drive doesn't show up in my files

[carmine stirrup]

Blowing air over the surface of the cooler isn't convection

[full fossil]

If it's such an issue why are we able to build teeny tiny systems which are extremely densely packed that have perfectly normal thermals and performance?

[carmine stirrup]

Last I checked, convection is movement in a fluid (or air). So we're talking air movement over the cooler/rad. We do that with fans.

Empty volume of air in the case really isn't an important factor

[carmine stirrup]

This. I have SFF cases that are just as cool as full size towers. Better in some regards because there's less turbulence

Agree on air

[north escarp]

[carmine stirrup]

At the boundary layer, of course convection is in play if there is no other force involved.

There's no situation that I can see where convection isn't related to the force of gravity (or inertia) pulling denser (generally cooler) liquid down.

Okay... so there's a second definition of convection

[full fossil]

But bro @full fossil what about this

[carmine stirrup]

or when a specific discipline creates a niche definition of a term, they don't get to invalidate the general use of the term

Either way, you're wrong with your own definition

In convection heat transfer from a solid, the term applies when the fluid is moving due to having different temps

aka the exact definition I've been using

it has to be flowing because of temp differences in the fluid to count as convection

because in pyhsics, convection is a measurable force

[north escarp]

Steel cage matchhh

[full fossil]

Bro ignoring this fact which disproves his whole theory KEKW.

[carmine stirrup]

Yup

laptops have to ensure that surfaces stay under 50C

they have requirements that a standalone PC doesn't have

[full fossil]

For user comfort

[carmine stirrup]

yup

and they're... wait for it... relying on convection at lower power states

😉

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/murder-the-office-michael-scott-i-do-declare-mystery-game-gif-17215500

[carmine stirrup]

Okay, we've come aalllllll the way back around to what I said at the very beginning

[grand trellis]

People were arguing about making 200k, hell cats, and now air cooling 💀

[carmine stirrup]

we have a force beyond pure thermal convection involved

All things I said, but you were lost in semantecs.

[grim cipher]

where do i put pictures for my pc/desk pictures?

[north escarp]

Meanwhile my derpy self, just more fans = better if facing correctly

[full fossil]

ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT let's all calm down, forget it and move on...here

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074269

Have some cat in bread

[carmine stirrup]

We're still waiting for the part where we need the bigger case for heat transfer

[old yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/im-feeling-a-little-tension-clive-schitts-creek-awkward-uncomfortable-gif-20848114

[carmine stirrup]

last I checked it's easier to pressurize a smaller volume though

[north escarp]

I often wonder if negative pressure is a thing in pc builds. Like when you have a window open in your house and a door slams

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/loof-and-timmy-loof-queen-king-prince-gif-14438215

[old yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-snake-eyes-orange-justice-dancing-dance-gif-22082452

[shut lichen]

Assuming the same air flow, a smaller space will have more pressure

[full fossil]

Yeah if all your fans are intake, the case will draw in air from the outside

[north escarp]

What effect would it have on the system though not that I care to test Probst just gets hot xD

[carmine stirrup]

I think the real reason why we generally have bigger cases is to make it so that bad builds don't block fans

[full fossil]

I'm pretty sure there's an old LTT video testing the theory, maybe another channel idk tho YouTube is your friend. M

[carmine stirrup]

Jayz2cents covers a lot of airflow stuff

[north escarp]

I'm sure there is maybe I'll check at some point

[sage quiver]

Dust, since you aren't controlling where air is entering from. Actual thermals aren't impacted much.

[full fossil]

Good point

[north escarp]

Makes sense ty

[carmine stirrup]

a typical 120mm fan will move between 20-80 cubic feet of air a minute. With that consideration, I don't see the the real benefit of an extra 1-2 cubic feet of air inside the case.

[full fossil]

@carmine stirrup he's they're new to the game, allow them. Let's all just drop it.

[carmine stirrup]

I could see the interior of the case having more thermal mass helping slow the ramp up of heat in the system, but eventually that will equalize

I suppose one angle would be the case itself having more external surface area, if it's metal, helping out

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074254

[carmine stirrup]

Now I want to build an experiment for this...

two Plexiglas boxes at different sizes. put the same system in each and use the same airflow...

I wonder if I could reliably do it without getting a calibrated CFM meter

[shut lichen]

Checkmate, loser

[full fossil]

HELLLL YEAHHHH BABYYYY

[carmine stirrup]

Can always count on Ethan

[full fossil]

That's a nice ass system

[shut lichen]

(not my build)

[full fossil]

Oh 😦 well I mean it proved the point I was making so doesn't matter if it's not yours KEKW

[carmine stirrup]

Now that's a solid argument.

Bigger case = more fans spinning slower = lower noise levels

[full fossil]

@shut lichen w8 w8 post a picture with a huge case with a ton of dead space aswell to see the comparison

[shut lichen]

As someone with a massive case, it doesn't help with thermals at all

[carmine stirrup]

I run 6 computers in my office doing science, so I've lost the sound battle (for now)

[shut lichen]

Sound? It's noctua fans, so they're still pretty quiet even if at max speed lol

[carmine stirrup]

Yeah, I agree with that. Larger case = easier to get air to fans with less turbulence for folks who aren't adept at planning out a build

Thus far I have been disappointed with every Noctua fan and cooler I've purchased

I keep trying them because they're supposed to be the bees knees, but they keep getting beat by cheaper options

[full fossil]

I just like the look of the chromax black stuff tbh don't really care about performance

[sage quiver]

They were never really value options

[carmine stirrup]

do you mean $ value or performance value $?

or sound value

[sage quiver]

Performance per dollar :)

[shut lichen]

Raw performance value

[carmine stirrup]

but they get beat in perf per dollar quite a bit

[full fossil]

We like raw 😉

[sage quiver]

That's my point

[devout pasture]

i cant see the window on the second screen

[carmine stirrup]

wait... where do they win then?

[shut lichen]

In every other way, they're great. Solid construction, nice fans that aren't loud, and of course, noctua support.

[devout pasture]

`on the right

[sage quiver]

They last forever, and are super well built

I also love their mounting system

[shut lichen]

They win in actual value

[carmine stirrup]

hmmmm

[sage quiver]

They held the overall performance crown for some time, but they've always been slow to iterate

[shut lichen]

They're not cheap, and that is the point

[full fossil]

They're support for new and old platforms is impeccable

[carmine stirrup]

I've not yet seen that. I think BeQuiet is built just as well for less $

[shut lichen]

You can ask them for am8 or Intel 4269 mounting in 20 years, and they'll give it to you

[sage quiver]

Next-gen D15 has been in development for some time

But they're a buncha engineers who don't believe in deadlines. Just passion.

[wispy quartz]

Hi

[shut lichen]

When you chase perfection, things tend to take time lol

[carmine stirrup]

I guess.....

[shut lichen]

They've probably made 50 perfectly fine new D15s, but not quite perfect ones yet

[carmine stirrup]

except that every cooler I've bought from them is outperformed by stuff 50% less $

[sage quiver]

Because that's never been their target

[carmine stirrup]

I'd have to have a pretty high failure rate on other brands to justify noctua

[shut lichen]

We covered that at the start of this convo

[carmine stirrup]

I'm lost.

[sage quiver]

They never targeted performance per dollar

[carmine stirrup]

But if I have stuff that is quieter, performs better, and costs less....

[sage quiver]

Stuff that wasn't around when the D15 was introduced

[carmine stirrup]

and if the cost difference is enough to keep a hot spare on hand for every cooler...

[sage quiver]

They're slow. For most, it doesn't make any sense to buy a D15 now.

[carmine stirrup]

To be fair, I've never purchased a D15. I've mostly purchased low-profile coolers from them

[shut lichen]

But I'll still do it anyway.... Not the best performing doesn't mean it's doesn't perform well enough

[sage quiver]

Buying Noctua for the color scheme >

[night heron]

[sage quiver]

How small, just out of curiosity? I've found that they're sometimes the only option in that regard.

[night heron]

i look forward to seeing all new beige and brown themed pcs when the new 140mm fan and new nhd15 release

[shut lichen]

If I need a low profile cooler for a server, I'm not going to fuck around with anything else, it's getting an L9 and then being forgotten about

[carmine stirrup]

The L9x65 performed only a hair better than the L9a

both of them performed like ewaste, tbh

[shut lichen]

And what were you comparing them to?

[shut lichen]

It's almost like they're tiny ass low profile coolers lol

[carmine stirrup]

that cooler spanked them

both Noctuas couldn't keep a 7600 under 93C on cinebench r23

The thermalright held it at 85C

I was massively disappointed to say the least

[shut lichen]

The L9 design is over a decade old now

[sage quiver]

If you have a full-thickness fan that's gonna make a difference, especially if it doesn't have direct access to fresh air

That's why Noctua released those foam duct things

[carmine stirrup]

I did the tests open bench

[shut lichen]

Let's play a game of "count the heat pipes and have realistic expectations"

[night heron]

the thermalright cooler is much larger from what i can tell so that is to be expected

[sage quiver]

Either way, that thing wouldn't fit in the last L9a/i builds I did

[night heron]

if i had a 7600 id be locking it to 65w anyway so it wouldnt matter to me

[carmine stirrup]

the thing that irks me the most is that the L9a-AM5 is a purpose built AM5 part that cannot be mounted to any other system.

Yet it can't adequately cool the second lowest power AM5 there is.

IMHO that's a product that shouldn't exist

[night heron]

kind of an am5 moment

if the ihs didnt rob you of like 25c it wouldnt be an issue

[carmine stirrup]

I really wish that with the 65mm version, Noctua had shaved down the cooler a bit and put on a bigger fan.

[shut lichen]

Am5 is designed to pin itself to the thermal limit unless it hits a power limit first.... So....

[night heron]

only with pbo enabled but yeah

[carmine stirrup]

Or put on 2 more heatpipes like the thermaltake that costs $40 less...

[carmine stirrup]

I get that, I do. but every other cooler can keep it under thermal limit before it hits power

[shut lichen]

Because those other coolers aren't based on a 12 year old design

[carmine stirrup]

I felt like I paid $40 more for a brand name... which then underperformed.

[carmine stirrup]

I thought Noctua was all about "if you can't do it right, don't do it"? 😉

[sage quiver]

The thermalright is 35mm taller

[shut lichen]

You paid more for a cooler not meant for the purpose you had for it

[carmine stirrup]

I put the fan underneath the heatsink, so it's the same hight

well, I think its 5mm taller

[carmine stirrup]

wait... I did?

[sage quiver]

Ah, I didn't see the clearance for that given the angle in the showcase pic

[night heron]

do you think a 92mm aio would outperform that noctua cooler

[carmine stirrup]

Not sure... a 240 does--which would be expected since it has 2 full thickness 120mm fans

[night heron]

well yeah a 240 aio competes with a full size dual tower air cooler

[carmine stirrup]

The 240AIO is also the same price as the L9x65, lol

but that's still not apples to apples, so I'll not push that point

[sage quiver]

Time to do an AIO InWin Chopin build :P

The 65 probably can't fit in there either

[shut lichen]

Yes... It's an old design, and not meant for performance at all. As should be obvious by the lack of heatpipes, and it's size. It's meant to fit where no other cooler could... Typically not the type of situation where you're trying to squeeze every bit of performance out of something

[carmine stirrup]

I'll cede that. What surprised me most is that the 65mm L9 didn't do any better than the 35mm

[sage quiver]

But would it inside an appropriately-sized case?

[carmine stirrup]

it doesn't on the open bench

like... it takes a few seconds longer for the CPU to get to thermal limit, but it'll be there by the end of one cinebench run

so I guess in situations where the CPU is never going to be run at max for more than a minute, it'll be OK

[shut lichen]

Was it able to use more power at the same temperature?

[carmine stirrup]

I didn't monitor that closely, but the cinebench score was the same +/- 100 points

[shut lichen]

Maybe the bigger one just does better under a sustained load, once everything is fully heat-soaked

[carmine stirrup]

I'm more okay with the 65mm part because that can also mount on am4, or like a 6100 intel i3

so it has plenty of uses where it can do well

[night heron]

what is the power draw in these tests

if it's like 90w then try locking the cpu to 65w and see how the thermals are

[carmine stirrup]

whatever the cpu managed to draw. I didn't dig into it once I saw that the R23 scores were the same

It was definitely getting up over 65W

[night heron]

efficiency falls of a cliff with ryzen after about 65w on their 6 cores cpus, 85w on their 8 core cpus, and 125w on their 16 core cpus

[sage quiver]

There's also the L12S

[night heron]

which is why the 7800x3d gets praised for its efficiency, it's right at 85w out of box

[carmine stirrup]

Thing is... I didn't need to lower power because I replaced the $69 cooler with a $24 cooler and my problem was solved 😄

[night heron]

nice

im glad your problem is solved

[rotund raptor]

bread 👍

[night heron]

[full fossil]

Bread

[wispy marsh]

I thought I was in the wrong chat for a good moment, being there just blue and pink.

[north escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/big-huge-bread-slice-bread-gif-3544912

[silver sun]

49

[timber wave]

59

[full fossil]

wots goin on, why are almost all the lmg staff online ? !

[full fossil]

6........

[timber wave]

7

[full fossil]

oh thank god, defused that bomb

[shut lichen]

12 is not ~100

[timber wave]

😅

[full fossil]

true they have a lot more people then that

[dusk pollen]

tech tip of the day when?

[full fossil]

2AM mcdonalds

[tribal aurora]

Hi

[full fossil]

tech tip of the day: google tips if you're lacking in the tip department. and don't forget to tip the person who gives the tips.

[hearty spear]

They're always online. Doesn't mean they're in here.

[dusk pollen]

they watch our every move

[full fossil]

true tbf, only person i ever see actually in here is elijah

[hearty spear]

I've seen Jakkuh before. LMGCommunity occasionally pops in.

[elfin solar]

Poor buggers.

[sick coral]

yeah thats cause you can already play all the 360 games on pc

[full fossil]

HELL YEAHHHH the luke upgrade videoo!!! a promise is a promise linus 😉

[steel marsh]

not all

[sick coral]

yeah obviously you cant play the 360's shovelware and kinect games on steam but i dont think theres a game that people actually care about that isnt on either ps3 or pc

[rain sand]

entire tiktok fyp is the linus hard r meme🤣

[full fossil]

sounds like a u problem

[vagrant otter]

can someone please help me decide what parts to get for my pc

[rain sand]

doesnt sounds like a problem at all👀 its a funny meme its just good that the medias not overeating

[outer vector]

Hi guys

[sick coral]

a cpu would be a good start

[vagrant otter]

i want the best you can get

[full fossil]

best what tho productivity or gaming?

i mean if you want the best just sort by most expensive and get that KEKW

[novel notch]

4090
14900k
192gigs of ram
sounds like a start

[steel marsh]

you dont need 192gb of ram

[full fossil]

he said the best

[full fossil]

also like as many gen 5 ssds with the most capacity and cache and fill in the rest with gen 4 or 3 depending on the mobo

and maybe like the highest wattage titanium rated psu

[novel notch]

at least 8 tb each

[surreal willow]

You guys know if the pcie slot clip is needed?

[novel notch]

no its not but recomended at least by me

[full fossil]

i meannnnn if you wanna be sketch then no but i wouldnt recomend

[surreal willow]

Mine just broke off…

[steel marsh]

i feel like the only way to get 192gb of ram running is hedt

[novel notch]

no acording to intel
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/236773/intel-core-i9-processor-14900k-36m-cache-up-to-6-00-ghz/specifications.html#:~:text=Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type)

[full fossil]

oh, it'll be find, just make sure the card is screwed in properly and dont move it around too much or it might just loosen up the connection

[full fossil]

no you can get ledt mobos that support that capacity, youd just need those 48gb ram sticks, i think thats right

yes its offically called an ledt....well not officially but you know

[steel marsh]

isn't it only like a few very high end boards

that asus and msi make

[full fossil]

yeah....but he did say THE BEST

[steel marsh]

ye

[full fossil]

i might just create a pcpp list for them cause thats always fun

the real question is intel or amd...and the other real question is nvidia or amd @vagrant otter

[vagrant otter]

okay i wanted the intel i94900k and the 4070super

i can’t afford best of the best :p

[full fossil]

see now we're talkin!!

[novel notch]

officially ddr5 can have DIMMs with up to 512 GB
AMD EPYC 9654 12 memory channels
24*512=12.288 GB

[vagrant otter]

i’d say overall budget under £3000

[full fossil]

air cooled or liquid cooled?

[full fossil]

ill spec something for you and then someone else in the cord can sanity check it, im pretty sure with that budget you can have basically the top spec everything, just not the most expensive

[vagrant otter]

great 🙂

it will be used for gaming and video editing

[sick coral]

so a ryzen 7950x3d?

[vagrant otter]

i don’t mind

[full fossil]

personally i prefer air cooled, just cause im scared of liquid lol

[jade prawn]

same

easier to see if it breaks

easier to fix too

though in my life i never had a cooling solution break on me

[sick coral]

i think if youre not comfortable with doing maitanance on a water cooler, you always should go for air cooling

[jade prawn]

neither air cooled or water cooled

just slap nhd-15 and its more than enough

[vagrant otter]

i want it to be nice and quiet and safe

[jade prawn]

are you travelling with your pc a lot

or at all

[sick coral]

this is his first time building i dont think he can build a sff

[jade prawn]

well more of if you travel from place to place a lot, aka when renting a place

having a big tower cooler can be a con for shipping built system

[vagrant otter]

no it will be stationary and believe it or not i built a pc a few years ago but it took me two days

[jade prawn]

there is no hurry in building one, better safe than sorry

[vagrant otter]

yes but i might find a local pc shop to do it for me this time but i want to choose parts

[sick coral]

that means you have a slight bit of experience, which is 100% more experience than people who never tried

[jade prawn]

i dont know, imo building one yourself is more fun

depends on your goals

[vagrant otter]

true but i dented my cpu because the clamp wouldn’t close

[jade prawn]

i trust myself more than i trust our local pc shops

[sick coral]

well, make sure that wont happen this time

[vagrant otter]

i just don’t want to risk short circuit anything

[full fossil]

@vagrant otter https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FwLYh3 this is the "best" only thing that isnt the best is it doenst support gen5 ssd lol its a pretty stupid build if im being honest but you can use it to figure out what you need and dont need

you need to chose a case that fits all that aswell

[jade prawn]

that looks a bit maxed out lmao

but i didnt see the beginning of the convo

[full fossil]

exactlyyyy

[delicate junco]

14900K with an NH-D 15? Really?

[jade prawn]

why not

[full fossil]

yeah fuck it, obviously liquid would be better but d15 can hold its own

[jade prawn]

its not like you are compiling chrome 24/7 either

[vagrant otter]

i only need about 1TB MEMORY!

and budget was £3k lol

[jade prawn]

it seems they added all the options so you could choose the ones you like most

[full fossil]

@jade prawn he basically said he wanted the best, didnt give a budget, at first i was thinking fuck it lets get the most expensive everything then he said £3000 so i speced it to £5000 for him to narrow down what he needs and doesnt

[delicate junco]

if u spend that much on a pc then im pretty sure u have enough money to fit an AIO in that budget. Even if you go with an liquid freezer 360 it doesnt have to be that advanced

[jade prawn]

@delicate junco

[full fossil]

yeah ofc i just dont like liquid lol

[full fossil]

exactlyyy

[vagrant otter]

i think 32gb ram would be okay for now

unless you guys think 64gb will be more@useful

[jade prawn]

depends on what you do

[vagrant otter]

nothing crazy

[sick coral]

it will help with longevity

[jade prawn]

for gaming 32 is enough
if you often do 3d modelling / game development, might want more

[delicate junco]

i think he wouldnt have great times with an Air Cooler and that CPU

[vagrant otter]

why?

[jade prawn]

and if you ever get to the point where you need more ram you can buy more ram then

[full fossil]

@vagrant otter if you only need 1tb storage just remove all the 2.5 drives, remove one of the m.2s and youll have 4tb instead

[delicate junco]

Also i think he doesnt need like 24Terrybytes of SSD Storage

[jade prawn]

just read up man

smh

[full fossil]

and then you could go for 2 48gb sticks. that way you have the option to max it out if you ever want to

[sick coral]

if you get 64gb now, that means when programs in the future are going to use more than 32gb of ram you wont have to run out and upgrade your pc again

[jade prawn]

imo there isnt a reason to not buy 32gb more later

since ddr5 will be cheaper then

[sick coral]

that could also be an option

[stoic beacon]

It was funny when we all said that about GPUs too

[fathom kindle]

how closely related is webm and matroska?

[jade prawn]

you can add more ram sticks to the system, but you cant to the existing gpu

[full fossil]

bro £3000 for a pc youre LIVINGGGG thats literaly top spec everything

[vagrant otter]

can someone edit the list with only 1-2TB Memory and only 64GB ram

[sick coral]

i think u specced him with way more storage than he's ever going to use

[full fossil]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xWxNDZ

that knocks it down to 3400

[surreal willow]

okay. i kinda just pushed the clip back into place and it stays in.

[full fossil]

id say just gather the extra 400 and call it a day cause then you can max everything out without having to replace any components lioke the ram

[sick coral]

memory and ram are the same, you ahould say 2tb storage and 64gb ram instead

[vagrant otter]

still too much memory and ram 🤣

[surreal willow]

also used the opurtunity to install an ssd

[full fossil]

good good, maybe get like a ziptie and wrap it around the front of the gpu through to one of the cable management holes so you know its not going anywhere

[surreal willow]

i dont think i have any in a great position for that

i might get something to prop it upo

[full fossil]

ok then ill change the mobo to a cheaper one that only supports 128gb ram then you can get 2 32gb sticks and max out eventually that way

[sick coral]

wait where is the case

[vagrant otter]

okay!

[full fossil]

oh i said he can pick one, just needs to do the measurements, im not bothered to do that

oh...so apparently there are no 128 max mem boards, only 96 for some reason but we can work with that

oh w8 its cause of the ram ive selected,

hold on

[jade prawn]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2py9BL

my take lol
less ram, less storage, case which should fit gpu, albeit tightly

[vagrant otter]

are you guys serious that i need a 1600W power supply!?

[jade prawn]

those 40xx series connectors give me anxiety

[sick coral]

modern computers eat up that much energy, yes you do need 1600w psu for the power-hungy i9 14900 and even power-hungrier rtx 4090

[jade prawn]

thats still double the wattage pcpartpicker estimates lol

but idk how good its predictions are

[sick coral]

its based on what the board providers list

[jade prawn]

do you need a dvd rw reader in it?

[whole swallow]

14900k is not worth the money tbh

[vagrant otter]

no

[fathom kindle]

what exactly are you using the pc for

[jade prawn]

good

[vagrant otter]

linerider

[full fossil]

w8 there actually dont seem z790 ddr5 boards with 128gb max mem support

[long briar]

Drop to a 14700k, see if you can get a thermalright cooler instead, get a 850-1000w

[full fossil]

thats strange

[fathom kindle]

im serious

[vagrant otter]

basically video editing and gaming

general use

[long briar]

realistically 850w is plenty if you don't unlock power limits and cap out both gpu and cpu

[sick coral]

pick up a computer from the side of the road and take it home

[fathom kindle]

oh, well aslong as your not doing 4k you dont need the latest and greatest components

[vagrant otter]

it will be 4k

[fathom kindle]

oh ok

[vagrant otter]

with colour correction etc

[jade prawn]

then you should get 2 4090s

[fathom kindle]

you still dont need a 4090 lol

[jade prawn]

jk

[long briar]

single 4090 is good

[sick coral]

personally i wouldve gone with a ryzen 9 7950x3d for more efficiency and a future-proof platfom

[vagrant otter]

bro i originally said 4070 super but im open to ideas i want a good one

[long briar]

I'd still say either go 14700k or switch to AMD for efficiency

[long briar]

Maybe not 7950x3d

[jade prawn]

did they fix 7950x3d cache allocation stuff

[fathom kindle]

i still think a 4090 is a bit much tho

[vapid smelt]

And platform longevity

[long briar]

The higher clocks on non x3d matter more for productivity work in my experience

[jade prawn]

just 7950X is good imo

[full fossil]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BysW6D ive knocked it down a bit more from 3400 to 3200

[jade prawn]

do u still want intel tho

people be singing praises to amd

[sick coral]

he said gaming too

[vagrant otter]

intel seems good to me for combination of use case scenarios

[jade prawn]

wait its the same kit

[fathom kindle]

you still dont need the best of the best for most games

[full fossil]

is it?? i swear i changed it...

[jade prawn]

idk maybe motherboard changed

[full fossil]

pretty sure that stayed the same too

[vagrant otter]

64GB ram will be enough!

[full fossil]

maybe it was a 4x kit instead of 2x

[long briar]

I'd say go to a 7900x

[sick coral]

assuming power consumtion isnt a problem, the 13900ks/14900k would be what you should go for

[full fossil]

no but then you wont be able to max out the pc without changing the ram sticks!!!!

[full fossil]

he wanted intel

[vagrant otter]

yeah ^

[long briar]

ooo okok

get a 14700k instead

[full fossil]

m8 honestly that build i put together is SICK the potential for it is reall

[long briar]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/GVtsWt

[sick coral]

why go for a 14700k

[full fossil]

he also wanted i9 but the gpu he wanted 4070ti or somethign

[vagrant otter]

bro i want the i9 i said multiple times.

[sick coral]

if he had a 3000£ budget why not go for the i9

[long briar]

to fit a 4090?

[vagrant otter]

why do i need so much ram?

[long briar]

14700k is 90% of the performance at 150eur less

wait who configured the thing to begin with

[vagrant otter]

i want the extra 10%

[sick coral]

i think you should go for the 13900k instead of the 14900k, theyre almost the same but the older one is less efficient
you can easily overclock a 13900k to perform like a 14900k

[jade prawn]

why overclock

[vagrant otter]

guys i914900k is the one i’m getting 🙂

[full fossil]

im trying to explain this, the mobo supports a max memory of 192 so if you get 2 32gb sticks, if in the future you want to upgrade to the max potential of the mobo youd have to get entirely new sticks instead of just adding another 2 48gb sticks

[vagrant otter]

i don’t think il need more than 64gb

[full fossil]

im tryin to egg you on cause id love the potential to have a maxout build it would be so cool

[vapid smelt]

The 14700k and 14900k both have the same amount of regular performance cores of 8

[jade prawn]

even if they ever need more than 64gb upgrading to 128 is already more than enough

they were content with 32 man

[full fossil]

no no no no we want the MAXOUT POTENTIALLL!!!!!

[jade prawn]

so basically that anyway

unless you wanna diff psu, but this one seems fine

[vagrant otter]

i14900k beats all video editing bench marks

[jade prawn]

consider looking at other PC cases

i just picked the one im using cuz it was easy to build in

[sick coral]

if you can afford to sped the extra 150€ go for the maxout build, if you cant just go for 32gb of ram and less storage

[full fossil]

well no cause the mobo supports max mem of 192gb so you want the 2x 48gb sticks instead of the 2x32gb sticks

[jade prawn]

but my gpu isnt a big ass brick so maybe 7000D airflow is your friend

[sick coral]

and also for a cheaper motherboard

[jade prawn]

what is it sized, like my shelf

[vagrant otter]

il never need 192gb of ram bro

64gb should be good 🙂

[rough saffron]

Rtx 3060 with ryzen 5 5600 Gud?

[full fossil]

yeah but like isnt it so exciting that you could potentialy one day just say you have 192 bro

[sick coral]

its fine, he doesnt need the maxout build

[full fossil]

😦 😦 😦 😦 😦 im upset KEKW

[fathom kindle]

heres a pc for those with unlimited budgethttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qq6LYN

[vagrant otter]

yeah but honestly i don’t think il utilize that much it’s unnecessary for me hahaha

[rough saffron]

Omg thank you dude i have been looking for one of these🙏

[full fossil]

its unnecesary....but its COOL

[jade prawn]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mFJPcH

i like asrock more, 20$ is 20$

[full fossil]

and you have the budget, just need to squeeze your pockets a teeny tiny bit more

[fathom kindle]

lol

[vagrant otter]

Azim this is the best one so far!

well done man

[jade prawn]

i just took Junaid's list and added a case man

[rough saffron]

Guys i just bought a 3060 for 20 euros

[sick coral]

where did you get that data? if you got if from a site like userbenchmark then it might be false info

[vagrant otter]

yes Jnaid the OG

[rough saffron]

Trust...

[vagrant otter]

youtube

[sick coral]

what youtubers?

[vagrant otter]

Technotice Amd vs Intel for Video editing

[full fossil]

m8 m8 m8 https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BRNDKX change the d15 to a 360mm aio which is slightly cheaper and will probably cool better....you dont have to squeeze as hard !!

[jade prawn]

consider 7000D airflow and if it even fits in your working space

[sick coral]

he doesnt need that expensive mobo

[full fossil]

they call me junaid the grenade 😉

[jade prawn]

then u choose one

[vagrant otter]

you still sneaked in extra ram ffs

[jade prawn]

i dont know intel mobo stuff

what comes and what doesnt

[full fossil]

no no no but the MAXOUT POTENTIAL!!!!

[jade prawn]

do their B670 come with thunderbolt even

[sick coral]

but then maitnance means replacing the entire cooler

[full fossil]

ok ill go for a cheaper air cooler thats just as good and cheaper, one sec

[sick coral]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1700

[full fossil]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/kQzjh3

[jade prawn]

im sorry Adon.
I appreciate your effort on teaching me, but im just too tired to think straight at midnight

[full fossil]

3240!!! from 3260!!! bargin m8 come on

[jade prawn]

i will give it a read tomorrow if i remember

but honestly, like all midnight conversations, i probably wont even remember i chatted here to begin with

[fathom kindle]

i changed it, got it down to 3149.77

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/B2Fq9c

[sick coral]

fair enuff

[jade prawn]

on this note, good night

it was so random and sudden, but certainly enjoyable

[vagrant otter]

too much memory and ram still. i need a monitor and keyboard aswell so too expensive 😄

[full fossil]

no but you dont have the MAXOUT POTENTIAL you see cause you went for the 32gb sticks instead of the 48gb sticks

[jade prawn]

this one good

[fathom kindle]

all i changed was mobo lol

[sick coral]

if u got less ram, storage and a b660 mobo this wouldve been the one

[full fossil]

bro one of these days im gonna convince someone to get a build with the intent of MAXOUT POTENTIAL

[vagrant otter]

not today

if i already had a monitor then perhaps

[jade prawn]

i wont have the money to max out my potential for the next 20 years of mortgage

didnt stop me from spending 1500$ on making a homelab server

[full fossil]

true, same here...but it would be nice, you could just dream about all the POTENTIAL your pc could have

[sick coral]

for the keyboard dont ask here,theres a whole subgenre of keyboard building you can get into for cheap

[vagrant otter]

are those power supply/case actually good ones or just cheap ones

[jade prawn]

id rather get a new table and chair

[jade prawn]

i have the same case and its a good one

XPG used to be good but idk if thats still the case

[full fossil]

send the link of the one youre looking at

[vagrant otter]

it’s the ones in the links you guys sent

[fathom kindle]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/B2Fq9c

[sick coral]

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[full fossil]

everyone sent like 10 different links with different parts tho

@north escarp gets the whole MAXOUT POTENTIAL vibes, right ??!

[gritty minnow]

I thought there was a deals alert on this server?

[north escarp]

Always get the best of the best

[full fossil]

exactlyyyy

[sick coral]

well if he buys 32gb now he can always replace it

he doesnt have to max out now

[jade prawn]

he doesnt have to max out period

[vagrant otter]

is the 4090 really that much better than 4070 super? what about AMD

[full fossil]

but thats the point of going for the 48 in the first place, it means he wont have to replace just buy the same ones and then its not a waste of hardware, he'll have to sell at a loss

[jade prawn]

for video editing you want nvidia

[full fossil]

its miles better....

[vapid smelt]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/K2Ry9c 3033pounds, a work drive and a game drive

[sick coral]

yeah but whats the point of that if 48 is so much more expensive

[vagrant otter]

why was you guys choosing that 4090 instead of FE

[full fossil]

cheapest one on pcpp

[jade prawn]

also looks cute

i love palit

[gritty minnow]

I doubt 5080 will match 4090

[jade prawn]

dont mind it translating from russian as "burns down"

[sick coral]

just switch the liquid cooler for an air cooler and itll be the one

[vagrant otter]

i want a quiet one

[full fossil]

nooooo but why is no on on board with the MAXOUT POTENTIAL 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[sick coral]

except wait it wouldnt you didnt choose a case

[vagrant otter]

bro that’s enough now haha

[sick coral]

cause nobody cares bro goddamn

[fathom kindle]

💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💸💸💸💸

[jade prawn]

iirc they all are quite similar in noise

[vapid smelt]

14900k is too hot for even the best aircoolers

[jade prawn]

and you can always tune them down in the bios settings if they are too loud

[fathom kindle]

underclocking your cpu? ew

[jade prawn]

actually

[full fossil]

alright alright 😦 ill just go cry in the corner for being a bad sales person and let my associates take it from here.

[jade prawn]

i know just the card for you

for quietness

[sick coral]

yeah but maitnance-wise he shouldnt get an air cooler

[fathom kindle]

not a bad sales person, just not convincing enough

[sick coral]

he can underclock/undervolt if he ever needs to

[vagrant otter]

haha if you sent me some money il do it

[jade prawn]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/FMcgXL/asus-noctua-oc-geforce-rtx-4080-16-gb-video-card-rtx4080-o16g-noctua

[fathom kindle]

ew

[jade prawn]

its not a 4090 tho

[full fossil]

can i use it on the weekends?? ill cover anything over the 3000 😉

[jade prawn]

but it quiet

[vagrant otter]

il just get the cheap 4090

[jade prawn]

palit are good dw about it

[vagrant otter]

i don’t mind about the fan noise tooooo much i want it to be a beast

[chrome vector]

My 13900k runs fine with my NH-U12A, I do have a cooler room than average, but still.

I do use a thermalright mounting bracket and MX-6 thermal paste. I score ~38000 on Cinebench, which isn't bad.

[jade prawn]

oh, right

[vagrant otter]

i suck at cleaning i wasted so much compressed air il probably take to a pc shop

[jade prawn]

the mounting bracket

someone add the mounting bracket to the list

[vagrant otter]

okay so where the up to date list everyone making different now

[full fossil]

tape your fans so they dont move in the air or you'll fry the pc, get a leaf blower and BLOWWWWW

[jade prawn]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/B2Fq9c

iirc thats the latest one with the case

why am i doing this instead of going to sleep

[full fossil]

im joking...dont do that unless youre a trained professional

[jade prawn]

imo its as good as it gets unless we start hunting for the A-tier psu now

which we could

[vagrant otter]

what’s a psu

[jade prawn]

power supply unit

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
basically go through the list one by one until you find the one which has enough power and is cheap

[full fossil]

its already the cheapest most powerful a tier psu...i accounted for that 😉

[vagrant otter]

it says parts incompatible at the top and says it will only use 850w

[jade prawn]

what a legend

[jade prawn]

it says you might need to update bios

[full fossil]

its not incompatible just needs a bios update

[jade prawn]

if you click details

[vagrant otter]

okay also i don’t need RGB Ram it seems expensive

[full fossil]

and obviously check the sizeing of everything if itll fit in the case, if the cooler is too short to where the ram doesnt fit etc.

[jade prawn]

NHD15 has the space for ram

you can lift the fan to make space

[full fossil]

hey that wasnt my doing!! dont put that on me, i showed you what id get KEKW

[full fossil]

truers

its an edited list with most of my orignal parts, the ram and m.2 is different.

oh....the motherboard is different aswell

never mind... its outrageous....theres no MAXOUT POTENTIAL

[jade prawn]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qhtRRK

[chrome vector]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/898bTY

This is my PC build + the mounting bracket. If you use a bracket I would recommend the Thermalright one over the Thermal Grizzly one. The Thermalright one is easier to install, it actually touches the motherboard, the Thermal Grizzly one is harder to get the mounting pressure right without a torquing screw driver. Either way, watch the Gamers Nexus videos where they show how to install it. It's scary as fuck to install (especially taking off the bracket already on the motherboard, since you really don't want to drop something in the socket.)

Also remember to put the cooler bracked on before unscrewing the CPU mounting bracket, so the backplate stays on. Not putting that on first would be a massive mistake. It's so much harder to get the regular backplate on if you don't put the cooler bracket on the back first to hold it in place.

[tepid jasper]

didnt they fix the design with the thermal grizzly in the v2?

[vagrant otter]

honestly this the best one so far, are there additional components i need?

[tepid jasper]

but i mean its basically the same as the thermalright one now, just more expensive by far

[jade prawn]

see message above by AtomicAgeAce

[full fossil]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BysW6D and this is my build...with the MAXOUT POTENTIAL. i call it the maxout potential...and when you eventaully max it out i call it the PROJECT MAXOUT

[tepid jasper]

so no real reason to get one, unless you wabt to support TG / debauer

[jade prawn]

if you want to go a bit risky once for extra performance, get a bracket

and good thermal goo

[chrome vector]

Maybe? I don't know if they changed it or not. I just know at the time I got the thermalright one because it seemed easier to install.

[tepid jasper]

its not risky..?

[jade prawn]

my english is not great

icky? concerning? unskrewing this thing

[tepid jasper]

yeah they got rid of the torque markers and stuff so its basically the same now

i mean, the thermalright one is also cheap af, and helps with preventing IHS bending all the same

sooooo

i plan to get a thermalright contact frame myself when i get a 13900k/f

[full fossil]

contact frames are dope icl

[chrome vector]

The bracket is riskier to install because you are completely uncovering the cpu socket. It's scary tbh.

I wouldn't recommend it unless you have a magnetic screw tips and you're super careful. Honestly, it's easier to just get an AIO. Yes you might get better performance with the bracket even with an AIO. But still.

You could just use the aircooler and see if your performance is fine.

I did it with my first PC build, but I wouldn't recommend it to most people, lmao

[jade prawn]

exactly

[tepid jasper]

it's riskier sure, but it's really marginally risky at best

its not like deliding and running bare die or something like that

[jade prawn]

i wanted to delid

[full fossil]

its easy to install, just put the cpu in with the orignal mounting hardware, remove the orignal mounting hardware and screw in the contact frame, then you should be all good

[tepid jasper]

and the point is to help prevent bending anyways, not really performance since if there was minimal to no bending to begin with you won't see an improvement

[tepid jasper]

yeah its not hard

[jade prawn]

but then i installed it as it was, and saw that its already such a huge performance that i dont need delid

[tepid jasper]

you can fuck it up for sure, by overtightening i hear

[vagrant otter]

bro there’s no case haha

[chrome vector]

I thought about it, but I didn't want to risk flushing more money down the toilet and delaying my first PC build even more, lmao. I decided the bracket was the most risk I was willing to take. Maybe some day in the future. Might practice on an old CPU sometime. I actually won a CPU from LTT awhile back, and I still haven't done anything with it. I could try it on that.

[tepid jasper]

nah this is the kinda build that people post on reddit and go "did i do good guys??? =D"

[vagrant otter]

this way too expensive and in usd

[full fossil]

yeah yeah i said before thats for you to choose everything else is done, come on nowi cant spoon feed you the MAXOUT POTENTIAL

[tepid jasper]

i wouldnt on ryzen 5000...

[full fossil]

its all about the bragging rights 😉

[chrome vector]

It's riskier to the motherboard, but at least that's cheaper than the CPU (most of the time, lmao).

Just remember to watch the Gamers Nexus videos that show how to install the brackets. There is three videos, and they all have good information in them. One Thermal Grizzly one, one Thermalright one, and then the third one is the cheaper one that I can't remember the name. I know it was the Wal-Mart one, lmao.

[chrome vector]

Why not?

[vagrant otter]

why what do you mean haha

[tepid jasper]

soldered alr, i would just try to get some old ewaste cpu from like a local electronics recycler or something

no point in risking something perfectly good

[vapid smelt]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/H742YN fixed

[chrome vector]

That's true. Maybe I will, maybe I won't. I do have to do something with this CPU, I've been thinking of trying a small form factor build with it if I don't sell it.

Either way, free CPU ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I should have gone to LTX and got it signed by Linus and them, lmao

[vagrant otter]

why this case and fan 😄

[vapid smelt]

Cheaper and better

[full fossil]

i got my stream deck back from my friend LETS fookin GOOOOOO!!!!!!

[bright silo]

Spending all that money for a cheap ass case… ehhh

[full fossil]

let him borrow it for a week, 2 months later i get it back KEKW

[shut lichen]

case is cheaper, sure. but not exactly better lmao

[vapid smelt]

The 120mm beat the nhd15

[shut lichen]

have fun with that DLC usb-c on the front panel

[full fossil]

did they discontinue the cooler master qube 500 flatpack ?? maybe cause of all the bad reviews on thermals or something idk..its a great case, i have one but i think the thermals were an issue

[bright silo]

Why is that an issue? It’s easy to install?

[vagrant otter]

so is Coopa troops the winner and he gets the prize or what

i’m gunna order parts tonight hopefully

[shut lichen]

because you have to buy it seperately

[fathom kindle]

wait prize??

[dreamy ivy]

First ever rethermal paste today always just paid friends.

[fathom kindle]

i thought we were just helping someone find a pc

[vagrant otter]

haha maybe i will give a prize 😄

[full fossil]

do extensive research before you do, most of the people who helped you just threw together the list very quickly and tried to adjust it for your budget

including myself ofc

[vagrant otter]

this is my research lol

what do you mean

[vapid smelt]

Send me uk chocolate

[full fossil]

the pc will work, its all compatible, but id do a once over with everything to see if it fits your needs, if it suits your style interms of how it looks, stuff like that

[shut lichen]

this is not research

[full fossil]

also to check if the case will fit all the componets

[vagrant otter]

i’m not really bothered about the look of it to be honest and surely a PC case will fit it all in otherwise it’s rubbish

[full fossil]

literally lol this is asking for advice not research

[vagrant otter]

alright il get a macbook goodbye everyone

[full fossil]

WOOOWWWW all that for nothing ??!!!

[full fossil]

outrageous

[vagrant otter]

no but one min it’s a great setup now you clowning on it make up your mind

[full fossil]

im not clowning on you im just saying do a sanity check

hold on that might sound bad if you misinterprate it.

im trying to say, like with everything, do your own research

[vagrant otter]

well the parts are good i just mean is the motherboard gunna work? but surely the case will fit in these modern components

how can i speak to linus and get his approval

[full fossil]

linus is a busy man

[vapid smelt]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7rYq9c wait this will fit the psu way better

[vagrant otter]

will i need any additional fans/coolers with this?

[vapid smelt]

Nope this is a fantastic performing case with three included fans

[vagrant otter]

awesome!

[vapid smelt]

But you would want the $15 intel thermalright contact frame

[vagrant otter]

okay someone said i would have to underclock the cpu with this setup is that true?

someone said the PSU is B tier and not very good

[vapid smelt]

https://a.co/d/9YnuGsH

[vapid smelt]

It'll be perfectly fine unless you do some hardcore overclocking with liquid nitrogen

[full fossil]

i really want to get a framework laptop

thing is, i have $50 lmao

[vagrant otter]

steal one haha

[full fossil]

i can relate

guys....i think ive turned into a gpt chat bot....ive been on the discord since 3:45pm.....its now 9:50pm....oh no

[slim creek]

https://tenor.com/view/work-work-work-workaholics-work-it-working-at-work-gif-16051895

[full fossil]

i see the reaction lol

[full fossil]

can't, im in school and my mom won't let me get a job til i graduate

[slim creek]

tell your mother to get you a laptop for educational purposes

[full fossil]

lets create a sales pitch for his mom

[slim creek]

i aint doing that shit 💀

[full fossil]

KEKW me neither, i was hoping i could get you to do it

[fossil frost]

tell her you really need a new laptop for... personal time...

[vagrant otter]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7rYq9c

Anyone able to research this build for me 🙂

[full fossil]

A
Warning: The MSI PRO Z790-S WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard supports the Intel Core i9-14900K 3.2 GHz 24-Core Processor with BIOS version 7D88v16. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, updating the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.

B
Note: A USB 3.2 Gen 1 to USB 3.2 Gen 2 header adapter is required.

C
Note: The Thermalright Frost Commander 140 BLACK 95.5 CFM CPU Cooler may require a separately available mounting adapter to fit the MSI PRO Z790-S WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard.

D
Disclaimer: Some physical dimension constraints are currently not checked, such as CPU coolers and RAM clearance.

thats your research.

for you to do

[full fossil]

nahh 😭

[empty dock]

in the new video Linus referred to his son as reddit

name leak?

[full fossil]

wot

[empty dock]

I'll look for timestamp

[lilac bear]

imagine trying to apply to a job with the name Reddit Sebastian

[empty dock]

15:24

proly a joke

rellit idk

overshot on the timestamp by few sec

[vagrant otter]

yes so how do i fix usb issue

[manic torrent]

have you tried turning it off and on again

[vagrant otter]

not yet

i haven’t bought the pc yet 🤣

[mint abyss]

my desktop is blocked by the aero effect thing after full window a chrome tab @.@

[indigo comet]

WHY IS THE BEARD GOING

[manic torrent]

desktop icons? In 2024?

[mint abyss]

do you use Start to open every program? am i doing it wrong?

[fossil frost]

press windows key, then just start typing what it is you are trying to run, and press enter... the search on the start menu is amazing these days

[empty dock]

it's just a trim

I like hairy Linus tho

[mint abyss]

so instead of double mouse click, i have to press maybe 4-6 keys to find the program first, then press enter?

[agile copper]

Looks like the next episode of ltt is sponsored by razor

[fossil frost]

instead of moving a window out of the way, probably other windows, moving your mouse around a bunch, you can leave your hands on the keyboard where they already where, and just tap 3-4 buttons

[empty dock]

wait WAIT

NOOOO

[mint abyss]

we use pc very differently then 👀 I almost never full window something, and I can always access my desktop icons, also dragging a window out of the way isn't that hard for me

[fossil frost]

ive been a software developer for 22 years, im super lazy, i try to move my hands as little as possible, and all the 1 or 2 seconds over the day not moving my hands around, means that i dont get fucked up shoulders or wrists and get more stuff done too

[mint abyss]

idk man, my right hand is 99% on the mouse, moving my hand over to the keyboard feels like a lot of work

[carmine stirrup]

Desktop icons?

I seem to be down for the spare look...

[verbal quartz]

Is ddr5 that much better than ddr4

[carmine stirrup]

These days it is, yes

Esp if you get DDR5 with low CL and good timings.

could be as much as 15% in some applications

[verbal quartz]

Thank you

[lilac bear]

when DDR9

[still ledge]

hi!

[full fossil]

If you have triple ti-fighter layout could you call it the triple H instead like the WWE wrestler, cause they look like H?

[meager herald]

windows 11 users be like

[meager herald]

depends on the cpu

but they test at 1080p with a 4090 so take it with a grain of salt

[manic torrent]

it's at least one better

[manic torrent]

... how many new programs are you starting.

... that are on the desktop

[meager herald]

i even keep some files on desktop

[fossil frost]

the stuff that is on my desktop, are .txt files or screenshots or grabbed images from somewhere, that i have not yet been arsed to move to their proper location

[carmine stirrup]

My desktop is covered up by windows. Using it as a place to access things is inconvenient, lol

[pliant karma]

👀

[pliant karma]

lol me using a wallpaper that comes with the Space Black macbooks on my system for the hell of it

[manic torrent]

oh mine is unticked, I turned it back on to show the screenshot

[hollow scroll]

I can't tell if this is real or not as I can't remember what prebeard linus looks like anymore

[cold prism]

[indigo sierra]

he-
really aged quite a lot over the past few years

the beard covered it pretty well

[carmine stirrup]

on whew

[carmine stirrup]

he looks like an adult now 😄

[indigo sierra]

probably a bit older than adult

it's pretty much all downhill after 30

[carmine stirrup]

PFT

I beg to differ

[hollow scroll]

He doesn't look like kid tech anymore

[indigo sierra]

it hurts me seeing people's bodies degrade. skin getting looser, parts start to hurt. chronic disease and pains. i really don't want to live too long after turning 30. humans' life expectancy has gotten so painfully long i just can't bear to withstand those things

[fossil frost]

we are on about 30 year olds here, not 60 year olds

[vagrant otter]

do you want some tissues to cry on

[fossil frost]

im 38, and have none of those problems at all.. and many people dont

[indigo sierra]

i don't know if i'll be one of you or one of them

a friend of mine recently got diagnosed blood cancer. he's only 27

[chrome vector]

This better not be true, I am unsubscribing if it's true.... NO BEARD NO SUB

[indigo sierra]

healthy life style throughout his earlier years. out of nowhere

[fossil frost]

in fact, i SHOULD have more injuries, pain and general feeling like death, since i do triathlon for fun, cycle race for fun... doing ironman this year (after i tore a ligament in my knee trying to do it a few years ago)

[fossil frost]

yeah, my cousins husband got testicular cancer at 19... was told at 21, he would never have kids, hes 35 now with 3 kids with my cousin

[hollow scroll]

Send your anger to no beard no sub Canada

[fossil frost]

just because shit CAN happen, doesnt mean it WILL happen... and just because you know somebody it happened to, doesnt mean you are next... stop living in fear of the world and just live in the world

[manic torrent]

hahahhahahahhahahahhahahahaha

I'm 42 and I'm getting old and my body gets sore and yeah I don't want to live forever but too long after 30? much kek.

[fossil frost]

my aim is 3 digits

[vagrant otter]

guys i know u all philosophical right now but i need help with my pc build

[manic torrent]

have you tried turning it off and on again

[vagrant otter]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7rYq9c someone built this for me but will this work together

[lavish narwhal]

which computer is the hardest to get into bios ?

[sick coral]

i feel like if linus kept his hair like this he couldve shaved and still looked good

[sick coral]

you need a cheaper mobo and a better cpu cooler

[fossil frost]

i feel like its none of anybodies business other than his own

[empty dock]

we need to respect lienus

it's his body choics

[hollow scroll]

I don't care if he shaves or not just been a while since he did

[vagrant otter]

Oh damn

[empty dock]

I don't agree with it but it's kinda weird seeing everyone judging him

[sick coral]

yeah obviously thats just my opinion, from experience i know its hard to maintain a healthy looking beard and hair so i respect him choosing to shave

[fossil frost]

you dont need to agree with it or not, its not your choice, and you get absolutely zero input, because its not your face

[empty dock]

yes

better said

[chrome vector]

Nevermind, I think I'm wrong about the bios flash thing. It doesn't have a BIOS flashback, but I don't think you'll have to flash it with a Z790 Would have to look it up again to be sure, though

[carmine stirrup]

er... people do Just. Fine. after 30

I'm 46 and rocking it

[vagrant otter]

Oooo la laaa

[heavy flare]

omg I love your collar!!!!!!

[olive stump]

33 here and my bones creak now

[sick coral]

i think its mostly genetics and how youve treated your body in the past that makes you look good and healthy at an older age

[vagrant otter]

Which one

[sick coral]

case in point, she clearly ate her veggies

[sick coral]

wdym

[cold prism]

My joints are kinda fucked and I'm only 29 but that's due to many years of contact sports and pushing heavy weights in the gym

[vagrant otter]

Which cool et mobo

[south stone]

Frameworks laptops not worth imo.

The equivalent of apple going modular. Would only work if a lot of people adapt to it to create a second hand 'framework parts' market.

[coarse trellis]

Any ETA on the vision pro video?

[fossil frost]

ill save you the trouble of watching it... they are gonna gush over it and then complain about the price

[coarse trellis]

TBF the price is outrageous

2k max

[fossil frost]

apple tax

it costs a lot of money because apple know that apple people will spend a lot of money on it

[south stone]

Watch the careful disassembly by Jerry on the vision pro. Very thorough and detailed.

[fossil frost]

is that the one where it goes all crosseyed when they put it back together?

[restive lion]

jerry's teardowns are very much a one way street

[bright plume]

[full fossil]

agreed

[sick coral]

https://youtu.be/ow0crBSKIXw
check the video for coolers
mobo-wise i cant help you, all i can do is tell you that realistically a b660, b760, z690 and z790 mobo will all function the same, with the exception of overclocking being more compatible on z series boards

[sick coral]

good thing alotta people are adapting to it, then

[dreamy rose]

why did they give you a 14900K?

[neon shoal]

guys why is only 50% of my gtx 1650 being used for the finals i want it to ba at at least 95% cuz thats why i only get 60fps

[fossil frost]

im gonna say you have a 60hz monitor, and you have vsync turned on

[neon shoal]

no i have a 144hz monitor and vsync is offfffff

i even set up the finals to high performance

[manic torrent]

skill issue

[dreamy rose]

shouldn't that be a boast?

[sick coral]

he didnt want anything else

[dreamy rose]

so he's speficially asked for the dumbest buy because he likes intel?

[cyan charm]

💀

[sick coral]

he said the i9 14900k is the best for editing and that the 13900k and 14700k are way worse for that

[cyan charm]

Tf

[raven mauve]

Hello chat

[dreamy rose]

not necessarily the case but sure

[cyan charm]

Isn’t the 14900k like a slightly ocd 13900?

[sick coral]

dont shoot me im just the messenger

[fossil frost]

not even. its the same thing with a different sticker on the box

[dreamy rose]

it is, and its a shitty prduct too. its even more expensive

[sick coral]

its more power efficient than the 13900k

[cyan charm]

Ngl you shoulda gone for AM5

[fossil frost]

its the same

[cyan charm]

wayyyy moremupgrade route

[sick coral]

hr didnt wanna

[chrome vector]

It's a bit better. Not much, but it is better.

[dreamy rose]

literally fact.

[raven mauve]

The AM5 is more future proof

[cyan charm]

L bozo

[dreamy rose]

there is very few reason to be buying intel in 2024

[sick coral]

dont shoot the messenger

[fossil frost]

messengers always get shot... dont be the messenger

[cyan charm]

💀

[chrome vector]

I kinda wish I would have over the 13900k. I just really wanted the Intel build I always wanted to way back when. Finally did it. Next time I am likely going with AMD if things keep going the way they are. I am just sick of Intel changing the socket & chipset so much.

[dreamy rose]

this is the united states. everyone has a gun. messengers get shot

[chrome vector]

https://tenor.com/view/kick-sparta-leonidas-fall-gif-8139307

[sick coral]

i told him to get a 7950x and this is what he said

[dreamy rose]

i mean intel will be intel. and create reasons to buy AMD

[raven mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/hurricane-michael-fun-this-is-america-gif-12676272

[sick coral]

i dont live in the usa

[dreamy rose]

https://tenor.com/view/hurricane-michael-fun-this-is-america-gif-12676272

[raven mauve]

[elfin jetty]

Chat just got nuked

[raven mauve]

Dayum

[spice pine]

imagine flagrantly violating the rules in front of the mods

[raven mauve]

[dreamy rose]

bruh it got wiped

[raven mauve]

Yup

[elfin jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/toast-toaster-bread-fly-bryce-gif-3493099

[raven mauve]

Mods weren’t having it

[elfin jetty]

Breadposting

[raven mauve]

🍞

🥖

[elfin jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-are-sleep-post-bread-gif-18334685471993301874

[raven mauve]

[sick coral]

man i really need to watch 300 someday

[dreamy rose]

https://tenor.com/view/toast-jumpscare-gif-21501288

[raven mauve]

Green Toast 💀

[sick coral]

its in my backlog somewhere alongside the sopranos and chernobyl

[dreamy rose]

yummy

[elfin jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-gif-24391972

[raven mauve]

God that looks tasty asf

[elfin jetty]

Damn now I'm hungry

[raven mauve]

Same

[tender glade]

please stop spamming

[raven mauve]

Hungry gang 🍔

[elfin jetty]

Sorry :(

[tender glade]

the bread era is over

[dreamy rose]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074266

[raven mauve]

The bread era is never over

[elfin jetty]

The bread era shall never die

[jaunty compass]

but my e cores

I bought a used 12700kf lol

[sick coral]

its 3am rn youre making me hungry i have to go to school tomorrow

[left dragon]

Ah, indeed, we witnessed the pre-life crisis Linus, neatly shaved and composed. Then came the post-COVID crisis, which only served to exacerbate Linus's stress levels. And now, amidst the post-social drama surrounding the business and CEO changes, Linus has fully embraced the bearded look. All that's left is for Linus to sport longer, blonder hair, and we could aptly dub him SSJ3 Linus.

[tender glade]

can you find anything better than sliced bread

[raven mauve]

🍞

[dreamy rose]

ppl actually dunna give a fauck about ecores even

[dreamy rose]

yes a really good book

[jaunty compass]

I mean, i give a fuck mostly because I can use them for virtualization

[raven mauve]

[dreamy rose]

Zen C cores are your friend

[polar fern]

Sliced bread is actually not great

[dreamy rose]

also Threadripper

[polar fern]

It goes stale more quickly, and it can also be more easily spoiled by mould because the inner part of the bread is open to the air

[dreamy rose]

Bread? nah, its controlled history. litearally

[elfin jetty]

Sliced bread is love. Sliced bread is life

[left dragon]

Sits in never having got to try European bread yet, homemade bread next best thing.

[jaunty compass]

boy i bought a used 12700kf when was threadripper ever in the budget

[dreamy rose]

since we mentioned cores for vitualisation. Threadripper was there

[jaunty compass]

clearly not in my budget so it's silly to recommend threadripper

an older threadripper would be in the budget technically but it wouldn't have high enough single core perf

[polar fern]

Aldi has bread they import from Germany, Italy, and France.

[jaunty compass]

if i wanted a ton of cores i could get an older lga 2011-3 xeon and get like 22 cores and a board for under $100

[sick coral]

copping a ps3 on friday, any games i should get for it?

[jaunty compass]

demon souls is an obvious pick

the original red dead, also

[sick coral]

yeah obviously, i already have my eyes on a few black label versions

[sick coral]

same thing

[dreamy rose]

wangan midnight

[sick coral]

whats that

[dreamy rose]

Street Racing on the Wangan Highway in Japan. based on a Manga series. very good. spawned a series of arcade games that go hard.

home spinoffs too

like the one on PS3. and PS2

[jaunty compass]

I can get one of these for like $50 on ebay

3.6 ghz boost clock, 18 cores 36 threads

can toss it into one of the remanufactured boards

[restive lion]

black ops 2

supposing you have friends irl to play with anyways

[jaunty compass]

chat should i snag it

[dreamy rose]

Motorstorm Pacific rift, Driver: San Francisco, Modnation Racers. theres a bunch to go for here.

[jaunty compass]

i'm gonna do it, cpus are hardy