public-chat

[full fossil]

Yep, and the OLED version

[vapid smelt]

do people really use/buy apple tv and music?

[full fossil]

I don't know

[graceful lark]

Yes

Apple Music is great

[cinder wing]

Apple music has better quality music available i believe. TV not sure

[graceful lark]

Apple TV is… a fun value add

[idle nymph]

steam deck

pretty cool thing

fun to mess with, and allow to play games in travel

[fossil frost]

thats what apple say, and the people who buy into it say... same for any apple product, then you look behind the curtain

[graceful lark]

I mean, it’s just true

The lyrics feature is also miles better

[fossil frost]

so, its not "better" which is objectively measurable.. its "your personal preference" which is entirely subjective and down to you as an individual

[graceful lark]

No, it is objectively better

[fossil frost]

very well explained, and very well backed up

[idle nymph]

nuh uh

[graceful lark]

Better quality music and lyrics features are something you can objectively analyze

[fossil frost]

very much an apple argument "no... its just better"

[graceful lark]

It is actually something that you can prove with metrics

It’s not an intangible

Music is encoded at a certain bitrate (where higher is better) and if a lyrics thing has more features you can say it’s better if it does more

[fossil frost]

better quality how? in what way? features that do what? objectively, anything more than "it plays music" is a personal preference feature, and not something that makes it objectively better

[idle nymph]

better quality is also something youre never gonna notice unless youre an absolute hardcore audiophile

[fossil frost]

incorrect... higher isnt better in bitrate, you get diminishing returns on any codec, to the point that going higher does not increase quality, it just increases bandwidth usage

[vapid smelt]

but people use bluetooth headphones mostly sooooo

[graceful lark]

I think the bitrate is higher but don’t quote me since I know that was true at one point in time (it may not be anymore) and their lyrics feature actually has more things that you can do with it — you can even turn down the lyrics to many songs and sing them karaoke with live lyrics

[idle nymph]

i could be wrong i suck on audio related thing

[graceful lark]

Not true

[manic torrent]

You are mistaking the subjective "quality" for the objective "sound reproduction"

[graceful lark]

If you have adequate hardware, higher is always better — same for displays or framerate or whatever. It doesn’t make something the same if two streams are at different bitrates but your headphones aren’t good enough to tell the difference

120fps is considered “better” than 60fps when running a game even if your monitor is 60fps… you might not be able to tell on that panel, but one is a measurably higher frame rate

When you upgrade your hardware you will then be able to tell

[manic torrent]

this is an entirely different concept

[graceful lark]

The way I worded it might have tripped some people up, that’s my bad. But my point is, something is still better even if you don’t have the hardware to tell

[fossil frost]

Apple uses AAC (lossy, mp4 style encoding, where you lose returns beyond 256kbit), or ALAC, which is also mp4 based, which allows for DRM to be added and also allows for "lossless" (no such thing really) encoding for audio, so its bitrate is variable depending on the audio being encoded... in the same way that any streaming service that also uses a lossless codec also has variable bitrate depending on the audio (spotify, amazon music, youtube music)

[graceful lark]

The numbers tell the story even if your hardware doesn’t

[vapid smelt]

i doubt people by apple music for the track quality

[manic torrent]

The way I would word it, which might trip people up, is "you don't know shit about fuck"

[fossil frost]

you have absolutely no idea about what you are saying, you think you do, but you dont, and you are trying to argue with people who have done this for a long time

[graceful lark]

Oh interesting! The way I would word that is “keep your nose out of someone else’s discussion if you’re just going to be annoying about it”

Note how I didn’t use any profanity there

[fossil frost]

its a public discussion, and im pretty sure bob knows far more about this than you do

[manic torrent]

Do you understand what a sample rate is? Do you understand why it matters? Do you know what the nyquist frequency is?

[idle nymph]

lets just bring a audiophile here

[graceful lark]

He may! And he may not, but I was raised to know how to talk to people, which I suspect he wasn’t

[vapid smelt]

stop eavesdropping bizz smh

[idle nymph]

shoulda closed his eyes fr

[manic torrent]

you're talking shit about topics you don't understand.

[fierce sinew]

You are all silly goofs

[graceful lark]

I hear plenty of people speaking out of their depth and I still know how to remain polite, somehow

[fossil frost]

between me and bob, we have actually worked on actual audio software, actual audio codecs at their software level, actual audio hardware at the most basic level... and there are plenty of other people in here that have done similar things... so... when we say you are talking shit.. please understand, we know that you are talking shit

[fierce sinew]

You are all clowns grow up

[manic torrent]

It's far too late for that my friend

[idle nymph]

please very kindly shut the fuck up

[graceful lark]

I mean I’m glad you know what you’re talking about, I guess between us we now have audio and manners covered

[fierce sinew]

Ok goofs lil boys fighting lmao

[vapid smelt]

pretty sure you where alive when the first headphones where invented too

[manic torrent]

Speaking confidently while wrong is far more offense to me than any insult.

[idle nymph]

im fairly certain than appart from me, everyone here is older than 30

[graceful lark]

I’m way too used to Dunning-Kruger to be annoyed about that at this point lmao

[vapid smelt]

hey im only 23

[manic torrent]

ease up there blink 182

[graceful lark]

I am curious why you say that your choice of streaming service doesn’t matter now, though, since I’m probably done arguing

[fossil frost]

no, but i do remember getting some headphones one Christmas where the "ear pads", were just a piece of cloth

[idle nymph]

well everyone here appart from you and me then

[fossil frost]

if you are aware of Dunning-Kruger, you should be aware that you are displaying an awful lot of it right now

[manic torrent]

The irony of you bringing up d-k here is hilarious

[graceful lark]

That was the point lmao

For being experts y’all don’t get out much 😂

[manic torrent]

So, you were only pretending?

[graceful lark]

It was a joke at my own expense lol — I admit when I’m wrong

[manic torrent]

ok you haven't though.

[fossil frost]

im on here now, because im sat at work, and i cant be bothered to do work, because its too early to be arsed.. so instead, im calling out bullshitters on the internet

[graceful lark]

Y’all will have to take the tacit admission of ignorance here, I just asked you to explain it to me and brought up Dunning Kruger lmao

[fierce sinew]

You are all over 30 acting like kids. Goofs

[fossil frost]

welcome to the internet

it must be your first day

[manic torrent]

and yet, you're the one that has done literally nothing but complain

[vapid smelt]

i just play half life on my steam deck at work

[idle nymph]

yapotron

[fossil frost]

im sat in my kitchen, i could quite easily turn on a mouse nudger and go and play on the xbox 😄

[idle nymph]

good taste

[manic torrent]

in any case - sound reproduction is complicated - because there's a whole bunch of tradeoffs. If you're talking about wireless headphones, there can be significant power impacts for increasing bitrate or using different codecs.

[vapid smelt]

going to be hard to play half life 3 at work

[manic torrent]

Not to mention that if you have different inputs of sound, they have to be converted and mixed to the final output.

[idle nymph]

lmao, by the time itll come out ill already be on retirement

[fossil frost]

especially since its never going to be released, because valve know, whatever they release now, it will never live up to what people expect... but... certain people will still buy it and give it 10/10 anyway, and cause valve to lose all credibility as a game dev

[manic torrent]

There are times when it makes sense to use very high detail audio, but it's typically internally in systems when mixing, because it means you have more data to work with over a shorter time so you can process it more quickly.

[idle nymph]

yeah, people expect the next game changing game from valve, when they have a small dev team, and an absolutely chaotic way of working

[graceful lark]

That I get — but is what you’re saying that at some point it doesn’t matter how detailed your file is on a music streaming service because it doesn’t matter, and both Apple Music and Spotify have reached that threshold of adequacy?

[manic torrent]

for almost everyone, almost all of the time.

[graceful lark]

That makes sense

For what it’s worth, I vaguely remember (this was a while ago) playing back different files, some high bitrate and some not on the Sennheiser HE1 and I can’t remember being able to tell

Or actually I did that on the HD800s, the HE1s were on Tidal

[manic torrent]

The thing is - even if you could tell - you may not care

[graceful lark]

But also I don’t think I have an expert’s ear… which kind of speaks to what you’re saying about it being good enough for most people

Yeah most likely not

[manic torrent]

the thing is you can spend a very modest amount of money (in relative terms) and go from dogshit audio to really quite decent.

[vapid smelt]

vavle is too small of a company to make half life or portal 3

"small"

[graceful lark]

I want to do this but I already have enough money pits that I’m burning my money in and I really don’t want to get into the audio one right now… I bought HD6xxs a while ago and I’m stopping there (for now)

[idle nymph]

i mean

[manic torrent]

that is exactly where you should stop - get some decent bookshelves if you want.

[fossil frost]

the environment you listen in also makes a HUGE difference... while im running, spotify on data-saver mode, playing podcasts where people are just speaking, or wireless jlab ear pods... is plenty good enough... but... i wouldnt have that same setup while working now, or even if i was in the office

[graceful lark]

I probably will when I have a need for speakers, I can’t remember what my friend has but it’s like an $800-1000 set of bookshelves and he seems happy with them, seems like a reasonable amount of money to spend

[manic torrent]

yep, the noise floor in my (home) office is stupid low.

[manic torrent]

that's more than you need to, but yeah.

[graceful lark]

Oh less than that? Probably will happen sooner then

[manic torrent]

My entire 5.1 surround setup was less than $1000 AUD (all second hand)

[graceful lark]

Oh wow, that’s impressive! I need to start shopping for audio gear now darn it

[elfin jetty]

[vapid smelt]

i use data saver mode and bone conduction headphones at my work (warehouse) sounds just fine

[idle nymph]

my dad got ours for 700 euro i think ?

[manic torrent]

I use pixel buds pro at work

[cinder wing]

thought its generally known Apple music quality of music is better hm. Just no one cares cuz everyone wearing headphones of 80 dollars. lul

[idle nymph]

some of the speakers are 20 year old i think

[manic torrent]

yeah that seems about right for older decent quality gear

[fossil frost]

i stopped using those because the battery doesnt last long enough... when im training for ironman, i need batteries that last 8 hours minimum. and those last less than 3

[idle nymph]

yeah, we got some from our grandparents who didnt need them anymore

[graceful lark]

I mean I guess the one “quality” difference (if you can call it that haha) for Apple Music that you can actually prove is the Dolby Atmos surround, since I don’t think Spotify has that… but even then that’s just kind of a gimmick

[manic torrent]

the pbp would do that (and much more) if you weren't using ANC

[vapid smelt]

i get mine to last 8

[fossil frost]

i would often have to take 2 pairs with me on a 4 hour bike ride and swap over half way through

had them back for warranty replacement 5 times before i just gave up

[fossil frost]

i wouldnt use ANC while i was on the bike, that would just be dangerous 😄

in fact, i need to grab my running earphones now to make sure they are good for running with the dog later, hes 6 months old now and is just about able to run non-stop for an easy (my easy) 5k (3.2mile)

[vapid smelt]

i just use wired over ear skull candy headphones for my bike rides

[fossil frost]

the mild inconvenience of the wire being slightly in my way... lead to me ditching wires while running/cycling 😄

[idle nymph]

godamn

[pallid wyvern]

Anyone know any good olden screen keyboards

[crystal pike]

maniac

its a compliment

[carmine stirrup]

I think we need more context

[crystal pike]

i think the message is supposed to be good keyboards with oled displays

[carmine stirrup]

So on phones?

Tablets?

[crystal pike]

physical keyboards maybe

Honestly i don't know

[carmine stirrup]

Oh! I read olden as on screen

I need coffee

[crystal pike]

As soon as i get my ipad ill take my mechanical keyboard and go to a coffee place

I will be a menace

[carmine stirrup]

That's a threat to all humanity!

[crystal pike]

i want to piss off every laptop and iPad user with a magic/keyboard folio

nah im joking i want to do it as a joke

[carmine stirrup]

You should bring a typewriter

[fossil frost]

he sees it as a game, he loves running with me because he likes chasing and being chased. he especially loves it when i have an interval session, because that is just a game of chase

[lilac bear]

this so much
if Im using ANC then IDC quality because so much other noise is being introduced, whether the static from ANC or the environment I'm trying to mute

[crystal pike]

you know what
I know exactly where to get one but unfortunately i made a deal with my parents to buy this ipad and I won't be able to buy anything for god knows how long

[carmine stirrup]

Ahhh, I know how that goes

[crystal pike]

worth it tho at least ill get to throw my old laptop away
I can't even use it without it just burning my lap or dying after just one hour when on battery power

Its just the most horrible piece of technology i have ever seen and used

[carmine stirrup]

That does indeed sound pretty awful

[sacred dagger]

Help

[pallid wyvern]

Shlawg a 75 percent oled keyboard

[sacred dagger]

Help

Bred

Buy me bred

[pallid wyvern]

No make bred

[sacred dagger]

Walmar

[pallid wyvern]

Bro just leaked himself

[polar fern]

Wha?

https://youtu.be/5Jo08wyCdUg

That’s the only song we need right now

[fierce moth]

Damn I love flacs

[carmine stirrup]

I want to see him sing that as the vampire he played in underworld

[polar fern]

Whys

Also, that movie was terrible, and the only one I have ever walked out of

🤣

I should wash my girlfriend‘s travel mug for her morning drive to work and get some sleep or something

[waxen notch]

Should I buy the airpods pro 2 or wait for the 3rd to come out?

[graceful burrow]

Wait for the 5th to come out it's gonna be wild

[waxen notch]

?

[carmine stirrup]

😮

I LOVED Underworld

[manic torrent]

We got our cleaners a $100 gift card for Christmas

[graceful burrow]

Based

[manic torrent]

Yeah wtf it was rad. Also Kate beckinsdale kicking ass is never wrong.

[twilit pewter]

a

[carmine stirrup]

Word

Kate Beckinsale also has the best Instagram

and her movie Jolt is amazing

Pardon me while I fangirl over Kate Beckinsale for a minute here

[soft swan]

Just buy em now if u want it’s an endless waiting if u keep waiting for the next thing

[fierce moth]

got a psp memory stick pro duo adapter coming in the mail

assuming amazon is fast ill get it christmas eve

[native tulip]

maybe

[carmine stirrup]

My fancy motherboard organizer will arrive today 😄

[fierce moth]

might buy if theres a sale

[eager venture]

Confused on how a sim game gets 35k reviews

[jaunty compass]

the original was really popular

[jaunty compass]

the original has 184k reviews

[gleaming ginkgo]

I've gotta thank AAA publishers for saving my money by publishing awful games

[eager venture]

Damn

[gleaming ginkgo]

I would have upgraded in a heartbeat if new games were good lmao

[hot mulch]

KSP 2 is now good

[gleaming ginkgo]

I am mostly playing 2019 and older games so my i5 8400 and 1660 ti are chugging along

[gleaming ginkgo]

It's not really my cup of tea

I don't think my cpu can even handle it

[hot mulch]

im using med-high settings on a 3600 and a rtx 2070 i get a stable 70fps

when launching or some of the more high part counts it dips to 40's

[gleaming ginkgo]

My pc is like comparing a shitbox to a civic compared to yours

[hot mulch]

heh

[fierce moth]

i have a 1080, it still goes strong

[hot mulch]

1080 bangger card

[gleaming ginkgo]

I wish I would have gotten it

[hot mulch]

i wonder how long till nvidia stops supporting 10 series

[jaunty compass]

I'm rocking a 6600 xt for now

[gleaming ginkgo]

I went for a 1060 at the time

[hot mulch]

its been like 7 years

[jaunty compass]

I have a 4080 coming

[gleaming ginkgo]

the 1660 ti is a hand me down

[fierce moth]

700 series is still supported iirc

[hot mulch]

i had a 1660 super, did well eought but DLSS and some mild RTX was something that made me upgrade

[gleaming ginkgo]

Did you upgrade for the sake of it?

[hot mulch]

it was a used 2070

[fierce moth]

my bad, its 900 series

[hot mulch]

im upgrading my r5 3600 to an r7 5700x this cwimmis

[gleaming ginkgo]

they won't kill them anytime soon

[jaunty compass]

MSI is sending me one for free, I wouldn't have Bought one

[hot mulch]

[gleaming ginkgo]

by the time support will end those gpus would be obsolete

[hot mulch]

should be a reallly nice upgrade for overwatch

[eager venture]

4060 8gb vram or the 6700xt at 300 usd for each

[gleaming ginkgo]

warranty?

[gleaming ginkgo]

6700xt

[jaunty compass]

no i won one of their christmas season giveaways

[gleaming ginkgo]

damn nice

[jaunty compass]

the giveback program 4

[hot mulch]

my friend is getting a pc and i somehow specced out a 6700xt

[jaunty compass]

i'm also getting a monitor lol

[gleaming ginkgo]

I never got jackshit out of their giveawys

I wish i could have gotten their stickers

[eager venture]

Alr. I thought that dlss on the 4060 would make it better

[fierce moth]

fsr > dlss

[gleaming ginkgo]

dlss won't make up for the worse perfomance

[jaunty compass]

I'm getting quite a bit lol
Im also getting a plushie

[gleaming ginkgo]

I'd rather burn in hell than end up using fsr again for a 1080p monitor

[gleaming ginkgo]

send me your address

I will do you a favor

[jaunty compass]

No I don't think i will

[gleaming ginkgo]

I will take the 1080 for your sake

[jaunty compass]

I don't have a 1080 i have a 6600 xt

[gleaming ginkgo]

oh right

wrong guy

[jaunty compass]

[gleaming ginkgo]

is the 6600xt like a 3070?

[jaunty compass]

between 3060 and 3060 ti

[gleaming ginkgo]

gotcha

[jaunty compass]

closer to 3060 ti

[gleaming ginkgo]

I have to go with team green for vr so I don't have a choice

[night heron]

closer to 3060

average across a dozen games at 1440p from hardware unboxed:

[jaunty compass]

when was this data from

[night heron]

the launch review

[jaunty compass]

yeah that's way out of date

[gleaming ginkgo]

it has a good price for what it's offering then

[jaunty compass]

it changed a lot since launch

like a lot a lot

[steel marsh]

what card

[jaunty compass]

6600 xt

[steel marsh]

plus allot of driver updates since then

[gleaming ginkgo]

fine wine aka it was unoptimized at launch

[night heron]

the position hasnt changed

[jaunty compass]

that's what i'm talking about

[night heron]

fine wine isnt real anyore

[gleaming ginkgo]

it remainds me when rx 580 matched 1060 6gb but a few years later it matched 1070

[night heron]

data from the rx 7600 launch review 6 months ago

it actually places worse now

[jaunty compass]

what game and what resolution

because that doesn't seem right

[night heron]

same as before, the average across all games tested at 1440p

[jaunty compass]

does that include RT on?

[hot mulch]

amd ages like wine though

[night heron]

nah

[hot mulch]

their performance goes up with time, no?

[night heron]

fine wine isnt really a thing anymore

[eager venture]

Under what setting

[gleaming ginkgo]

are the most sold games on steam h e n t a I ? or am I seeing things

[hot mulch]

its based off of your searches and history

so erm

[night heron]

there are a ton of them yeah

[jaunty compass]

🤨

[hot mulch]

bro getting cooked

[gleaming ginkgo]

I didn't even search that

[hot mulch]

search what

[night heron]

max without RT

[gleaming ginkgo]

I looked for some anime games but not sexual ones like dragon ball

[night heron]

to put as much load on the gpu as possible

[fierce moth]

thats true, new and trending is filled with them

assuming you have adult content enabled in steam settings

[formal stump]

anyone seen the new fortnite season

🥱

[gleaming ginkgo]

I enabaled it beacuse it censored witcher

have they added a new filter?

[fierce moth]

i dont think so

i think its nudity or no nudity

ah here it is

[jaunty compass]

I'm looking at the hardware unboxed numbers and something feels weird about all of these averages but i'm not completely sure what

[night heron]

it just depends on the games that the reviewer picks

[jaunty compass]

okay i think i found it

[night heron]

techpowerup reviews often have radeon placing higher than other outlets because of game selection

[gleaming ginkgo]

I think disabling the last one would also filter witcher

[jaunty compass]

the last of us part 1 is definitely skewing some data here

[gleaming ginkgo]

because there is a sex scene iirc

what a pointless one, they had sex on a huge unicorn plush

[night heron]

not really

he included modern warfare which runs better on radeon

the 6600xt almost touched the 3060ti in that game

it's a pretty balanced game selection

[gleaming ginkgo]

People will always hate him for no apparent reason

[jaunty compass]

if i'm being completely honest I play literally none of the games in this game selection so i have no idea of which way all of them skew

[gleaming ginkgo]

people also said that when he compared pascal vs rx 500 series

[night heron]

i dont like that hardware unboxed and gamers nexus inaccurately represent intel's power draw by acting like youre required to run their cpus with power limits disabled

[gleaming ginkgo]

me too honestly

[night heron]

but otherwise they provide good benchmark numbers

[gleaming ginkgo]

I sometimes watch gamer nexsus simply in order to find new games

he has a good taste

[jaunty compass]

wait my bad I do play re4 remake

so there's one game in this lineup I do play

and that's literally it

[gleaming ginkgo]

lol goat sim 3 is on gamepass

[night heron]

yeah i dont play any of the AAA games that reviewers test

[jaunty compass]

If I'm being completely honest who is even buying like half of these AAA games

[night heron]

i only really play free multiplayer games

not a fan of single player games and not a fan of paying $60-80 for one game

[gleaming ginkgo]

it's why i like gamepass

[night heron]

ill pay $200 for gta 6 but that's an exception

[jaunty compass]

I mostly play indie titles and older AAA titles

I have no intention of ever buying gta 6

[night heron]

youre missing out on a huge portion of gaming culture if you dont ever play gta 6

[fierce moth]

thats if my pc could run gta 6

[jaunty compass]

it's at the very least going to be a waste of $70

[gleaming ginkgo]

He never said "i would never play it"

[fierce moth]

lol

[jaunty compass]

I played like 2 hours of gta 5

[night heron]

youll probably have a newer gpu by the time it comes out

[gleaming ginkgo]

for me it was the same experience as rdr2

[night heron]

but who knows, gta 5 is very very cpu single core demanding for how old it is

[jaunty compass]

honestly gta really just isn't my thing

[night heron]

hopefully they do a better job of porting gta 6

[gleaming ginkgo]

I got into the hype and after some hours I got overwhelemed

[jaunty compass]

gta SA was good, I liked it

but that's the only one i really put any time into

I didn't really like any of the other ones

[fierce moth]

they'd think to at least make it dual core or quad core optimized

especially around the time the game released

[night heron]

i wish game devs would optimize for 8 cores

they do for console but then games come to pc and dont utilize 8 cores

[fierce moth]

thats currently the minority of users atm

but 6 cores are getting more popular

[night heron]

consoles have 8 cores, one ryzen ccx has 8 cores, intel processors have 8 performance cores

phones have 8 cores

the only people that dont have 8 cores are lesser fortunate pc gamers

i mean heck the i5 12600k was $90 on newegg's tiktok shop on cyber monday and that has 10 cores

[gleaming ginkgo]

I think 2 cores are assigned to the os iirc

at least for the ps5

[night heron]

i dont know but that would make sense

[gleaming ginkgo]

I wish my ram would arrive soon,16gb isn't enough but I could also blame docker

[night heron]

more ram time

[fierce moth]

the majority has 6 cores

[night heron]

im glad to see that it went down by 8%

[jaunty compass]

honestly idk what i'm even going to do with a 4080

[fierce moth]

so devs should optimize according the the steam hardware survey

[night heron]

push core counts higher

[gleaming ginkgo]

I probably represent the majority of the userbase

[fierce moth]

23% of people still have 4 cores lol

[gleaming ginkgo]

People don't upgrade as frequently as they used too

lol most of my pc parts are 7 years old

[dusky jacinth]

Given how balanced resources probably are with the dedicated hardware and because multithreading is a thing with it's cpu, they probably even just make-do with one core only.

[gleaming ginkgo]

Fair point

[sour stag]

hi

[gleaming ginkgo]

Should I cap rdr 2 to 60 or deal with dips from 90 to low 73 inside towns?

[night heron]

up to you my man

whichever looks better to you

[gleaming ginkgo]

I guess I could also lower cpu intensive settings

The fps gets lower because of the cpu

I5 8400 is definitely showing it's age

[night heron]

for sure

[gleaming ginkgo]

Are there any rumors cpu wise?

[night heron]

with a current generation cpu you could double your performance in cpu bottlenecked scenarios

[gleaming ginkgo]

I am considering doing a new build and reusing my 1660 ti because it's still good for 1080p

[night heron]

intel's next generation processors are expected to have around a 25% ipc improvement but clockspeeds are unknown

i think the landscape will be pretty similar to how it is right now except AMD will be taking the multicore performance crown at the high end

intel is ditching hyperthreading and not raising core counts until the 16th generation refresh

[gleaming ginkgo]

Did they finally ditch 14nm?

[night heron]

theyve been using 10nm for a few years yeah

but next generation is jumping down to 2nm

[night heron]

though the names are mostly arbitrary

their 10nm is similar in performance to TSMC's 7nm so they named it intel 7

[sharp anchor]

Howdy, folks. Another nerd gamer has dropped in.

[night heron]

hi

[gleaming ginkgo]

I've lowered the shadow quality

Maybe it will help, high quality looks unrealistic anyways

Even if I've had a top of the line rig I would probably still end up optimizing my games

Yep it's much better a drop from 90 to 80 is much less noticeable

[urban vale]

put a laptop desk in my car so I can live stream a little easier on the road

[night heron]

i do

i cant just click ultra and then start playing and be happy

i have to spend an hour testing every graphics setting before i can start playing to be happy

[urban vale]

I do too

[gleaming ginkgo]

Sometimes it's the reason I simply play on my PS5

[night heron]

i want the maximum frame rate possible without looking bad

[crystal pike]

streaming?

[night heron]

gta 5 runs at a very stable 180fps for me at 4k with my 14900k and 6900xt

took trial and error to get there

[gleaming ginkgo]

You must have an OLED

[night heron]

i do own oled monitors but im not using one right now

[urban vale]

i storm chase, and I discovered last year that trying to stream through a cellphone was ridiculously complicated for no reason

[night heron]

ive been using the eve/dough spectrum 4k

[gleaming ginkgo]

The eye candy never stops

[crystal pike]

So you follow storms

are you this obsessed with rain

[gleaming ginkgo]

I even watch remuxes exclusively on my LG c8

[urban vale]

tornadoes actually

[night heron]

nice

[gleaming ginkgo]

Luckily radarr exists

[night heron]

i care about my displays and audio way more than i care about pc specs

id rather have a high end display and a low tier pc than vice versa

[crystal pike]

what kind of hobby is that lol no offense of course ive simply never seen this much dedication for a hobby like this

[night heron]

i dont understand what you are asking

[gleaming ginkgo]

I lost my mind when my brother opted for a better pc than with a mediocre headset (cloud 2)

[urban vale]

there’s people who have built tanks to drive into tornadoes and record them from inside

[gleaming ginkgo]

My headset isn't amazing but pc37x does the job

It is like hd599

[night heron]

yeah pc37x is ight

better than what most people use but lacking in bass

[crystal pike]

Next level shit

Its something i feel like im into

I love rain

[night heron]

i use my truthear nova in ear monitors most of the time but i put on hifiman sundara with eq sometimes

[gleaming ginkgo]

I am more into warm audio so it's fine

I find too much bass distracting for fps games

I think it's one of the best "performance" headset for gaming

I opted for them because they were the best option I could afford

[gleaming ginkgo]

But sometimes being an audiophile puts you out of perspective

It's not like pc37x is a piece of garbage

[night heron]

yeah it's not

it's better than what the vast majority of pc gamers use

[gleaming ginkgo]

It's mind blowing how gaming manufacturers are charging those prices for mediocre headsets

[night heron]

yeah i can really only pick 3 headsets that im willing to recommend to people

the rest all stink

ive owned my fair share of terrible audio equipment though, it took me a while to truly learn about audio

[steel marsh]

me using 50 buck closed back headphones with audio interface and shure sm58

[night heron]

(sennheiser pc37x, sennheiser pc38x, and audeze maxwell)

i think that one of the models that hyperx makes is alright for the ultra budget tier but i cant remember which one

[steel marsh]

cloud ?

[night heron]

yeah it's one of the cloud models

cant remember which one specifically

[gleaming ginkgo]

My newest obsession is targeting a certain fps cap for every game

The frame time changes make me go insane

[night heron]

sounds like you need a cpu upgrade my man

[gleaming ginkgo]

I even do it when I play on my brother's rig

He has r5 3600 rtx 4060

His cpu is much better than mine

Basically even 5 fps drops make me go insane

I am using gsync on both rigs

I managed to get a stable ish 80 fps on rdr2

The visuals look fine imo

[mint abyss]

gmail is so nice I wrote an email and pressed send, then gmail reminded me that I wrote "see attachements" but I forgot to add them, gave me a chance to add the files, thanks gmail

[covert zephyr]

Am i the only one who clears a cmos by taking out the battery and smashing the power button?

[nocturne mauve]

can my friend that has a bad pc connect to my pc and play like something for better fps?

[gleaming ginkgo]

I prefer shorting the pins

[night heron]

i do that on boards that dont have a button

[surreal oxide]

I have an image that is cursed but idk if it’s bannable

I wanna share it super bad

[gleaming ginkgo]

should I have a global rivatuner cap with ultra low latency ?

my current setup is global vsync on gsync borderless 141 fps cap

[prime roost]

Hello fellow pc enthusiast. Anyone here with a MSI Motherboard B550 series? I have a Msi B550 motherboard and would like to know what the PBO modes are. I know Auto is Disabled. I would like to know what the enhanced mode means, 1,2,3 and 4. And which would be the best setting for my ryzen 5 5600x. I have a beefy be quiet cooler on it.

[gleaming ginkgo]

my display is 144hz

[sweet jetty]

Wussup lttcord

[spice pine]

if you have to ask, chances are it is

[night heron]

@gleaming ginkgo

[gleaming ginkgo]

so basically ultra low latency caps my fps?

[gleaming ginkgo]

I forgot to mention you, I changed my setup to 138 fps instead of 141 then

[gleaming ginkgo]

why is it 5 instead of 3 now

is the difference that noticeable between ingame and rivatuner?

[night heron]

i believe ingame caps lead to lower latency

that guide is for achieving zero stutter or frame tearing with the lowest latency possible

[gleaming ginkgo]

I guess I will disable it only for games which let me set an arbitrary number

for example in high on life the fps limiter is 30 60 90 120 240

[idle nymph]

i bought a dt880

i love it

[lilac bear]

protogen L

[gleaming ginkgo]

I think I will stick with rivatuner, the frametimes are the most consistent

the differences in latency are minuscule anyways

maybe i will stick with in game for dx 12 games though

[night heron]

[gleaming ginkgo]

sometimes those stuff give me a headache

[mint pagoda]

hi!

[night heron]

hi

[gleaming ginkgo]

ok so now I am doing nvidia control panel and ingame for games with good presets

[mint pagoda]

Arr!! sail the high seas

[gleaming ginkgo]

Maybe I have gotten to deep into the rabbit hole If I am worried about different fps limiters

[rancid dock]

based

[night heron]

nah learning stuff isnt bad

[gleaming ginkgo]

I keep micromanaging my hobbies, i spent so much time managing my plex for instance

[green linden]

Is there any way to build 300V buck conventer DC DC step down? I have high power mosfets

[ember holly]

Ok, so I'm in a weird situation. I play a movement intensive game so im heavy on WASD and Lshift. Problem is my shift key comes out sometimes because the clips holding it in the hole broke. Anyone have any idea that might work to fix this?

Image for reference, Shift key vs a key that has working clips

[ocean narwhal]

How much does custom liquid cooling just a CPU with soft tubing cost nowadays?

idk where you even find parts i just wanna gauge the price

[eager venture]

Depends on what cpu but I’d assume this is higher end https://www.ekwb.com/shop/kits/quantum-power-series

[ocean narwhal]

I was just going thru EK to look actually, like $600 minimum 👀 holy cowe

[eager venture]

Eh seems like a steal but I have no clue what the market price is

[eager venture]

Ye they are on the higher end price wise so I assume it’s cheaper from others

[ocean narwhal]

yeae

i have zero clue what i want to do with my pc rn lmao

was running a sff case with a riser cable which crapped out. decided im not going back to a case that requires a riser that costs like $50 plus 3 weeks shipping, just doesnt work.
Not actually considering custom liquid bc i am soo error prone theres no way itd work out

but not sure if i want to just stick with the super tiny itx form factor or upsize into a case that can take an aio at least or what

[eager venture]

Do u live near a micro center

[ocean narwhal]

like 1.5hr away i suppose

never been to it

[lilac bear]

buying new key caps or 3D printing them

[carmine stirrup]

What do you think of the NR200's (coolermaster) looks?

it's an ITX case that can take a 3-slot GPU without a riser

and you can fit an AIO in it

[ocean narwhal]

Yeah my current selection was uhhhhh

[ocean narwhal]

SGPC K88 (went out of stock on amazon for a reasonable price :(. 240mm stock rad, but i bet you could rig a 280mm aio on)
NR200 (itx only, 280mm tho)
meshroom D (idk if u lose pcie slots with matx)
AP201 (very large but fits anything)

and im thinking i just do 280mm rad so it can handle next gen high end cpu

matx seems nice because then i could do monsterous amounts of ram if i need it, but appraently matx mobos are really bad and i wont get good ram compatibility, which makes me think i should just stick with itx but get something that fits everything else i need

on MATX do you always lose a pcie slot?

[slender mauve]

what happen to the meme of can it run crysses?

[ocean narwhal]

pewters got too good

they can run crysis now

[merry gull]

you can build your next monitor

[slender mauve]

naaa

[merry gull]

Pixar lamp PC

[full fossil]

one fart and that thing collapses

[carmine stirrup]

Oooooo! I like! What is that?

[opal thunder]

buy some keycaps

[prime solstice]

New keyboard

[merry gull]

No clue, I searched PC case on Amazon, sorted from price high to low and found it

[merry gull]

Found it again

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7H7N1N3
ugly PC case

[carmine stirrup]

thanks! 😄

[merry gull]

hai

just got home

[polar fern]

That computer case is ridiculous and no one should buy it

[sick berry]

For those interested, the first half of the stream today with Sarah will be on twitch, and we have a thumbmail+title on floatplane, so it is hopefully starting soon!

[polar fern]

A wild Floatplane employee

Thanks for the heads up!

[sick berry]

also Live!

[jaunty compass]

A $20 GPU and $3 adapter was totally worth it

This was worth it

[sick berry]

lol I wish, maybe someday

[silver sun]

2

[carmine stirrup]

This... this is just

like wow... a pile of 3080s on top of a threadripper

7 3080s to be exact

[gilded grove]

Hi!

[carmine stirrup]

Hey there 🙂

[chrome vector]

The Sebastian Foundation for Lonely Graphics Cards

pls donate

[carmine stirrup]

LOL!

[polar fern]

I am fucking done

This month keeps getting worse and worse

[rotund dew]

Hi!

[indigo atlas]

damn

[golden talon]

Hi!

[indigo atlas]

No

[golden talon]

Yes

[indigo atlas]

No

[prime solstice]

Something like that happened to me once except it was a mug cake and I burnt it

[golden talon]

payday this weekend super hyped

might be high time to splurge on a 4090

[polar fern]

Yeah well that’s like a third of my breakfast so so much for food I guess

Just gonna have the tea and oh well

[gilded quest]

Did you microwave some vomit?

[merry gull]

not the instant oatmeal!

[wary grotto]

resilio sync is based

[stoic beacon]

Synctrayzor/SyncThing

[wary grotto]

i use that for mobile backup

resilio for copying game files from one pc to another

full 1 gig

through da wires

[proud kernel]

the new discord ui looks crazy good

and is way faster than the other one

[rare horizon]

Are we allowed to put up our listings for computers we're selling on this server?

[spice pine]

Read the rules

[silk island]

holy fuck

[tulip wagon]

rip my 90mbps download

[rare horizon]

I'm gonna get heart congestion from all this bread. What is this the third month now?

Was LTT sponsored by a bread company or something?

[silk island]

imma have to get a 10gig network switch at some point

[wary grotto]

i steal internet from my unis library

[dusky gyro]

I put a new wifi adapter in my PCI slot and it runs fine for about 5 minutes until the whole thing just freezes up, I even set the fan curve higher, tried it without wifi, set to default fan curve, disabled MSIs fan controller so it's the BIOS settings. But still after 5 minutes the whole screen freezes. Fan speed stays the same, and nothing is really different besides the drive light just not doing anything and staying blank. I don't know if the CPU just has a hard time reaching the GPU when it's on a lower PCIe slot and just struggles so hard it gets hot or if the new device makes the CPU overload or if the drivers are broken so I'm not sure. Everything else seems fine though, like the wifi runs at 500 mb/s and 50 mb upload but still the thing freezes up after like 5 minutes of it running

What do I do :/

[wary grotto]

take out the ethernet cable from back of the computer and plug into my laptop

full 1 gig

[wary grotto]

put it in rice

[dusky gyro]

Seriously tho

[wary grotto]

i got a tiny usb wifi thingy from tp link for my pc

[dusky gyro]

Yeah I know, I used to have a TP link USB adapter and I love TP link so I got the PCI slot one so it runs at 800mb/s but now it doesn't run right

[wary grotto]

which pcie slot u pluggin it into

the cpu ones or the motherboard ones

[dusky gyro]

? The only ones avaliable. The PCI motherboard slot

[wary grotto]

the small one or the big one

[dusky gyro]

Small one. Wifi doesn't take that much power

[wary grotto]

yeah supposed to go there

[wary grotto]

why is ur gpu on the bottom slot

[dusky gyro]

Brv

[static fable]

probs best to move it to #1027757333117415424. Couple questions

• does it still freeze up if you remove the wifi card?
• installed drivers for it?

[dusky gyro]

Ok so it's in the bottom slot because I can't fit the GPU in the top slot without blocking the mini PCI port. Yes I installed drivers and I'll do a test if I remove the card now

Nothing yet

I posted a thing in #1027757333117415424 so if you have a resolve please let me know

[chrome vector]

Jingle bells, Linus smells, luke laid a rotten egg. The GPU is burning too, and the sponsor got away.

[slim owl]

found a 2 month used 3070 for 280 euros

worth it or nah

[golden talon]

meh

[vapid smelt]

what European country are you in

[slim owl]

cyprus

[golden talon]

id get it for 280 euros

[slim owl]

i have a 2060 super rn

i dont rlly need it

[lilac bear]

LTT when the sponsor enslaved children

[urban thistle]

You could put the small PCI slot in a big PCI slot they’re compatible

[dusky gyro]

Fr?

Idk about that tbh

Either the graphics card or wifi card need to go into a higher slot

So that should help

[regal bough]

flip yeah amazon sent me a mobo with broken pins and now the amazon lady said she got my back

[copper sonnet]

Hey weird question tech chats to busy, would a 850w psu be enough for a 4090?

[golden talon]

yes

[regal bough]

would a 700 watt psu be enough for a 7900x and a 7900xt

[golden talon]

probably

RDNA 3 is not the most efficient tho so idk

[regal bough]

pc part picker says yes

[golden talon]

then sure

[regal bough]

but i prob wouldnt be able to overclock

i dont know what overclocking does then use more electricty

[vapid smelt]

amd says 750

[urban thistle]

Ya

[regal bough]

NOOOOOOOO
oh well

ill get a new psu when i go from igpu to gpu

[vapid smelt]

makes your pc faster

[chrome vector]

Remember to change all the PSU cables too. Don't want to risk frying your entire PC & possibly starting a fire

[vapid smelt]

or follow the three Rs reduce REUSE and recycle

[visual fern]

whats the best way to determine whether someone is real or not online

[vapid smelt]

ask them for feet pics

[visual fern]

[glacial crane]

I need help.

[vapid smelt]

cool not our problem

[visual fern]

this man woke up and chose violence

[glacial crane]

Got in a pickle with Verizon where I activated a new line and for some reason I got an S22 💀 and got a defective model with trashy battery life <2 hours to zero and then replaced it, still crap. Now I need to force them to give me a different device without paying everything.

Help me rn I've spoke with like 10+ different agents

[vapid smelt]

we dont work for verizon we cant help you

[visual fern]

start spamming any email you can find

and @ them on whatever social medias they have

[glacial crane]

Any strategies with actual success rate?

[silk island]

:o discord is 64-bit now on windows

[visual fern]

im not a god

[vapid smelt]

talking to verizon will give you more success then talking to random people on the internet

[silk island]

https://discord.com/api/downloads/distributions/app/installers/latest?channel=canary&platform=win&arch=x64

[glacial crane]

I have, 11 times (counting literally right now).

I'm pissed asf

[visual fern]

public attention tends to make things better so id try social media

[vapid smelt]

go inperson

[glacial crane]

Tried already

[vapid smelt]

switch carriers

buy a new phone

replace the battery on your 22

[glacial crane]

Tried switching to T-Mobile but the prepaid card payment can't be deposited into my account so it's shit

The S22 was already replaced

[vapid smelt]

sue them

[glacial crane]

honestly what will that do?

[vapid smelt]

idfk

[glacial crane]

average person vs. multi-million dollar company

[silk island]

what???

[glacial crane]

For carrier switch reimbursement

[ionic abyss]

how to fill a water cooling setup in seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsJkmJMeL4w

[glacial crane]

There's no way in hell that I'm paying off the entire balance on my phones on Verizon to switch

[vapid smelt]

Dunk it in a pool

[manic torrent]

that is many bits

[ionic abyss]

he fills the system in seconds

[silk island]

indeed 😂

[ionic abyss]

if i ever build a water cooling loop ill try that method

i still have a orginal resinator cooler in my closet

the first version of it

not sure if it will ever come in handy

[copper sonnet]

What’s a recommendation on a 4090 psu?

[vapid smelt]

1600W

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cJbwrH/corsair-1600w-80-titanium-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020087-na

[knotty ivy]

any canadians here... Bluetti AC180 66% off w/ coupon https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0C1SMJTDT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_delete_1?smid=A30W1K3SY6GER3&th=1

$1499 -> $500

[split bronze]

Evening Everyone 🙂

[gilded forge]

I JUST WANNA VIEW MY FUCKIN STATEMENT. I don't want any adobe shit on my phone

[left dragon]

Ah you will likely need a PDF viewer app installed then first or it will force Adobe PDF or nothing it looks like. Mobile stuff with regard to that sucks sometimes.

Most browsers can view pdf's internally without having Adobe anything.

[chrome vector]

What?

[chrome vector]

That's on the manufacturers for not standardizing PSU cables. Telling someone to try and reuse them is terrible advice. You should only do that is if you know what you're doing and make damn sure they are compatible

[alpine gale]

You don't need Acrobat - Google Drive, Dropbox, and other similar apps can open PDFs too.

[lyric sphinx]

Unless you need a certificate signature

[alpine gale]

True that - there are certain things you can only do in a fully featured PDF app, like Acrobat or DocuSign. Shouldn't need these to simply view bank statements though.

[gilded forge]

the issue is that clicking OK brings you to the Play Store page for Acrobat. and clicking Cancel simply exits out of the popup.

[graceful burrow]

So download a pdf viewer outside of the bank app?

[gilded forge]

i already had one

but it requires acrobat

[alpine gale]

Oh if the "need" for Acrobat is hard-coded into the app, that's just piss poor design. Even if a specific file "requires" a certain app, one should never hard-code this requirement into the app's UI. Let the user know what they need, then leave it to the OS to handle file management.

[gilded forge]

my issue is that it doesnt download the actual PDF file, so you cant just click it and have it download the PDF to print via another app (maybe it does and its just hidden behind some shit in the data partition)

[polar fern]

That’s bad

[strange elk]

i guess I have no idea how samba works after trying and failing for at least 3 hours to get it to work

[graceful burrow]

Open on pc

[graceful burrow]

Genuinely hate smb share

It's such a bitch to set up

[strange elk]

Idk what else to use. Original target was connecting a drive to my ubuntu server, now I want to use 4xvr

[merry gull]

Finally reset my PC with keep my files

I love having to go into group policy editor just to enable the "Don't display last signed in" option to sign into my Microsoft account, thank you Windows

[strange elk]

Its 2023, surely wed have an easy to use local unified file sharing protocol by now

Syncthing is a mess

[graceful burrow]

Where's that xkcd article about however many standards

[gilded forge]

i just use syncthing because it's the simplest way for automatically syncing a keepass database between serveral devices.

[strange elk]

Dont those clients have a feature to do that?

[gilded forge]

but honestly, as long as Apple exists, there will never be a unified file sharing protocol, evevn IF everyone else decides to come together and try to develop one.

[strange elk]

I mean even barring apple

[peak phoenix]

People still use keepass?

[gilded forge]

no, i dont believe so.

[gilded forge]

i do

[ocean narwhal]

are sfx psus as a form factor safe for the upcoming years? Currently the best psu is 750 watts although they make lower quality 850s. But is that enough for a top end cpu and gpu in the upcoming generations?

[peak phoenix]

They often don't have the required capacitors in them to carry transient loads as well as full sized PSUs. Upsize accordingly.

[ocean narwhal]

sf750 does just fine 👍 :D altho yeah idk about next gen gpus

[strange elk]

You dont?

[ocean narwhal]

bitwarden 👍

[strange elk]

Eh. Just another client. Bitwarden needs to be deployed in order to sync it looks like over using just a file transfer protocol

[left dragon]

I wanted a 1000watt PSU for the 12900k and RX 6950 XT combo, but settled on Asus TUF 850W, considering stressing out the system with Cinebench resulted only in about nearly 600w-ish between the 2 with some room for everything else added to that works out for efficiency reasons.

[peak phoenix]

Nope. Bitwarden

[peak phoenix]

If you're self hosting.

[strange elk]

Which is all I would do

[peak phoenix]

My issue with self hosting is that it means you're owning all security. SOME people can handle that. Most will likely be worse off than just letting bitwarden host it.

[dreamy otter]

That’s true, I use Cloudflare tunnels to host my Vaultwarden (Bitwarden) instance. Cloudflare handles all the security and traffic rules.

[potent delta]

Gotta love the gingerbread stream was advertised on YouTube, but not streamed there… 😒

[old yacht]

psst, its on floatplane

[tacit ruin]

Dawg i just spent the last 25 minutes hiding chicken in the fridge

praying it works

[lilac bear]

I will find your chicken and eat it

[wispy marsh]

I wonder how's Emily doing

I haven't seen her for a while

[rustic grove]

Will wan show still happen?

[lilac bear]

WAN Show was shut down after something called the illuminati filed a copyright law suit and The Boys determined LTT was in violation of the 1984 law

[rustic grove]

My bad i thought it was today it happens 2am saturday for me

[dull violet]

my main monitor was given t o me by my grandma roast me

[indigo atlas]

Free is free

And free is great

[dull violet]

thanks

it can do 74hz

[indigo atlas]

I mean my first monitor was a SONY lcd 23inch that did 1080i at 60hz

I think it was a KLV-23HR1

[rocky fox]

Hey is LTT part of some A/B testing? I can watch LTT videos in Picture in Picture mode without premium however it's not possible for any other channels.

[full fossil]

Hi

[graceful burrow]

It's a possibility, but I doubt it's for everyone

[opal thunder]

you can find out by reading #announcements

[rare hamlet]

Is anyone here good with cars? Mainly shifters I have a problem and need a fix

[graceful burrow]

@pale osprey im volunteering you lmao

[pale osprey]

[pale osprey]

whats wrong with it

[rare hamlet]

So my reverse lockout lever isn’t working nothing is stopping me from going into reverse from 5th to 6th gear (2023 Subaru wrx with the sti short throw shifter)

Normally you aren’t able to go into reverse without pulling the levee

Lever*

[pale osprey]

if it functions anything like the reverse lockout in a cobalt the tab is only plastic and it could have gotten broken

[pale osprey]

do all the gears go in normally?

[rare hamlet]

Pretty sure I pretty much just got the car the previous owner installed the shifter

[rare hamlet]

Hmmm interesting I’ll have to pop off my knob and cover to take a look

[pale osprey]

this is a cobalt ss shifter
that blue part is the lockout mechanism and that tab on the right is what blocks the gear and you can see it has damage

@rare hamlet

[rare hamlet]

I’m going to take my cover off rq

[pale osprey]

the short shifter in my car just flat out doesnt have a lockout function so now my 5 speed has race mode

[graceful burrow]

Ngl I just expected you to laugh or make a snide remark sorry for actually roping you in

[pale osprey]

car people know how to use google

[graceful burrow]

Do they

[pale osprey]

most of the time

not like tc1 where people expect to be spoonfed

[graceful burrow]

That's actually nuts
I know that sounds facetious but that's genuinely insane

[rare hamlet]

Looks nothing like the other one

[pale osprey]

spemd a video of you pulling it up and putting it in reverse

[pale osprey]

and a close up of that company name on the left

[rare hamlet]

It’s a stopper

[pale osprey]

forgot to ask but has it been like thi since you got the car

[rare hamlet]

Yes

[pale osprey]

it may be like my car then and just not have one anymore

[rare hamlet]

interesting

[pale osprey]

that shifter is alot smoother than the trans in my cobalt ss though

[peak phoenix]

Car looks in good shape. Is it newer and in warranty?

[pale osprey]

my trans is in mint condition and you have to man handle it through the gears with the short shifter i have on it

makes me think i could out shift anyone in a car that shifts smooth

[peak phoenix]

Or snap the shifter off

[rare hamlet]

Car is a 23 so it’s newer yes. And yes it’s in warranty

[peak phoenix]

Subaru service is generally good in my experience. Take it in. There's no point in you trying to fix it...they can use that as reason to invalidate the warranty on the shifter/trans

[rare hamlet]

I might take it in to a Subaru dealer tomorrow see if they can take a look at it for me

[rare hamlet]

Alright ill take it in

[pale osprey]

Clunky ass shifts

[elfin jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074269

[pure olive]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/381193840159358976/1183280628968476672/image0.gif?ex=6587c2f6&is=65754df6&hm=574a3bc0ce0a52dc6cdba6550b6cbd8e63e1c4fd9df1676fa5be291f0bef240c&

[dreamy crag]

bread

breadbread

[vapid smelt]

but linus is my bitch

[manic torrent]

Oh wow that's terrible.

[vapid smelt]

automatic > manual

[manic torrent]

Wrong.

[idle nymph]

i suck at doing more than 1 thing but manual is apparently better

[manic torrent]

Automatic is best for npc activities. Manual is best for driving

[peak phoenix]

EVs have entered the chat

[vapid smelt]

automatics are so good they are banned in f1

[manic torrent]

Yes, perfect for transportation.

[manic torrent]

Because a top tier automated transmission is faster. There is no doubt.

[idle nymph]

id be fine with both ngl

[peak phoenix]

DSGs are crazy fast

And EVs....just have no transmission

[manic torrent]

CVTs are also banned in F1, that doesn't stop them from being awful in many consumer cars.

[vapid smelt]

we all know Nissan makes the best cvts

[fierce moth]

Fucking damn it

My dad put on all I want for Christmas is you, just to bother me

[low rain]

W Airbnb I need to get the whole family in this room tn

[fossil frost]

An F1 engine c ant just start up on its own too, it needs a team of people and about 5 laptops, and 6-8 hours notice to initially fire it up from cold.....

so there are downsides to owning one

automatics are banned in F1 because its supposed to be about the car and driver... auto gear boxes take a lot of driver skill out of that equation

and technically... its the software controlling the full auto shiting thats banned... the full sequential automatic gearboxes are still used in F1 cars, and shift faster than you can blink, the driver just has to tell it when to shift

[vapid smelt]

idk i can blink pretty fast

[manic torrent]

Blinks are 100+ ms . F1 shifts are sub 50ms

[idle nymph]

F1 is kinda boring after a while

its impressive they go this fast, but i like rally more

[sharp cradle]

W

rally is much better than f1

[idle nymph]

i discovered rally cause of the fact the best rally driver ever is french, and even better, live like 50 km away from me

funniest thing ever, he stopped rally for a bit, went back in for a competition, beat everyone with codriver being a math teacher

Loeb is build different man

[carmine stirrup]

I agree about rally being better. I like rough and raw racing

[sharp cradle]

i'm partial to mcrae and mouton as my favorite drivers

[carmine stirrup]

I used to do dirt track stock car tracing

[idle nymph]

my favorite driver is loeb lol

rally is just way more exciting

watching them drive at high speed when a turn is incoming is just

[sharp cradle]

it really is

f1 is some amazing engineering and pit work

but rally is raw, and also amazing work between driver and codriver

[idle nymph]

those pitstop be crazy impressive

[idle nymph]

yeah, seing loeb and a math teacher beat everyone in a race made me wheez

since my friend had that math teacher in school

[sharp cradle]

ah neat

[idle nymph]

she became a celebrity in her school lol

[carmine stirrup]

Seriously? That's really cool

[idle nymph]

hell yeah, it is, sadly didnt ask for an autograph, i should have ngl

[carmine stirrup]

Totally should have

[idle nymph]

hey, might get a change one day

man i love rally

even more knowing the best driver live in our state

[desert dagger]

rallycross is better than rally.

[graceful burrow]

wouldnt rallycross be a subset of rally

[desert dagger]

Id say there are enough significant differences to put it as its own thing

[graceful burrow]

but would rallycross be as it is without rally in general

if not, it's a subset

[pale osprey]

I kind of like it. Its clunky like an old American 4 speed from the 60s

https://youtube.com/shorts/de_WrJqAbjU?si=TjWBik5GZ6D9I0_R

[cyan pine]

I get why it had to die but man i miss Group B Rally

[idle nymph]

Same

[cyan pine]

I think the closest race in spirit to the Group B is the Isle of Man TT

[rancid ember]

hello

[polar fern]

Gotta love Instacart restricting my account because “customer has too many problems”

Maybe train your fucking employees properly.

legitimately, one of my orders was taken to the wrong house and I got my account restricted.

So I called them about a problem that I had with a recent order and they told me I had to email some sort of appeals team

Talk about insulting

I am not really sure why Instacart thinks they can do an IPO when some of their shoppers can’t figure out how to grab items that aren’t damaged off the shelf and deliver them to the address that the customer specified

Then again, it’s not just Instacart it’s the stores too, and the transportation people that are responsible for properly handling these things

The pandemic has really shown that we put priority on the wrong things, including employee training being an afterthought in too many cases

[manic torrent]

yes that's really the problem

it has nothing to do with having delivery people be subcontractors who don't make a living wage

[rancid ember]

buggy customer lol

[polar fern]

i have no idea how theyre paid so i didnt mention it but ok

[manic torrent]

TB, I think your recent behaviour has been more unhinged than before, are you doing ok? because it seems like you are more scattered than before.

[lilac bear]

knowing some of this myself
either the worker was not trained at all or they were held at gunpoint to meet deadlines

[ebon lantern]

is there any pcvr games I should play???

[polar fern]

yes

derail valley

[lilac bear]

The Day Before

[strange elk]

We have this issue in the workplace too. Issues like getting fresh figs because they were mislabeled as spinach. I'd never seen one in my life before then.

[molten drift]

I'm really tempted to order door dash.... Even though I have most of the stuff in my kitchen and just need to make it myself...

Because that way I would also get cream cheese and hash browns on the sandwich.

[jaunty compass]

Boneworks if you haven't played it yet, RUMBLE is a lot of fun too

[strange elk]

Budget Cuts, Vertigo Remastered, Superhot, Boneworks, Half Life Alyx (though a given), Distance, Synth Riders isn't half bad, Outer Wilds has a vr mod, if you like escape rooms I Expect You to Die, Until You Fall, Tetris Effect if you like tetris, Population One if you want a battle royale, Tales of Glory if you want something cheap and kinda dumb but kinda decently made, Pavlov VR, Stride for "Mirrors Edge VR".. There's quite a few more. And I recommend for utility OVR Toolkit. Worth it if you are in vr a lot, especially social platforms

Almost said rumble but my arms hurt and the multiplayer is kinda not active despite it being the way to level up.

[jaunty compass]

For rumble you have to play at the right time of day

All of the I expect you to die games are bangers

Two and three are way better than the first but the first isn't bad

Two has an absolutely amazing opening credit sequence

[long patrol]

heyyyyy

anybody want nitro?

<@&750150305383186585>

[tender glade]

what

[full fossil]

lol?

[lilac bear]

rofl

[glossy glade]

check if resonse mail is [e-mail], the footer looks legit

[molten drift]

Well checking the name on the lmg page the photo and name match. But you also just leaked their work Email...

[strange elk]

[glossy glade]

you can always try to contact them via some social network, to check in a different way.

[balmy lotus]

yeah i think their twitter is open

[summer nova]

Oh shit

[fossil frost]

work emails are not hard to guess... its almost always [e-mail] or [e-mail], and spammers know that, and will send to those

[steep girder]

Jokes aside, thin sheet metal w hand cut jagged edges half a meter length are a hazard to the ultimate maximal possible extent: death. Fall on it with your upper arm or something. Boom. You are dying in minutes and require amberlamps pronto. Same w exposed 120vac terminals hooked up to ac unit submerged in tub of water or something lol

But then again, I saw a vid of a drunk guy somewhere in SE Asian places stomp into frame angrily and punch through a storefront window. He did the jagged metal thing and literally bled out on video. It was messed up when I realized how real that sht was. And later I thought about how I had the privilege of seeing it at all because some guy stood there and filmed it on his phone wtf. Idk but it was still easily possible to call paramedics and get him in time to save his life

[fossil frost]

anything industrial like that can kill you, and not even notice that its killed you

friend of mine owns a kitchen company, and they cut granite worktops to size from huge slabs of granite. new guy decided he didnt need an A Frame set up properly to move over a large slab of granite and pulled it to move it to get to the slab behind it, pulled it onto himself and died, crushed by multiple tons of granite... health and safety people found it was his own fault, police found it was his own fault, and a civil court found that it was his own fault

he had been through specific training on "dont pull the fucking multiple ton slabs of granite around without something to catch them"... and did it anyway

[steep girder]

Right but my point is how there's an irony in how industrial accidents or even shoddy diy build ticking off every hazard type box somehow feels safer since the person is usually aware of risk. Then they also likely are in position to take the correct steps if the accident occurs. In industrial setting yeah it's definitely insane risk factors usually compared to everyday life. But on the other hand, you have a bag of spill absorbant for every slip hazard that can happen

For every spill of HFl, you have those same bags but they say in big letters "do not use for that specific compound". I actually remember seeing that on this brand called Zepp or some sht. I forget it either said Hydrofluoric Acid or Lye if that's the other name for it

But idk punching through thick 20ft glass panel and following all the way through I mean that surrounds you on walk to NYC. But there's a specially high amount of darwin involved. I've worked with funnels that have compressor pushing things out at bottom sideways with piston basically. Finger probably would like despawn in 0.01s

Which they used fingers to push things down lol. You're not supposed to do that. I guess safety standards or even proper operation of machinery can lead to mass darwinian effect stemming from floor manager. The subordinates are kinda forced into it too lmao

[hearty spear]

I can be killed by paper at work in multiple ways.

[steep girder]

Well idk about that. I'm not sure how possible it even is to cut yourself deep enough even if you tried to the extent thick glass or jagged metal sheet can

[hearty spear]

well, our paper comes in rolls of 2500-4000 lbs per roll

[steep girder]

After that, what are the other ways? Eating more than one pack of it beside printer? Lmfao

[hearty spear]

and the cardboard tube in the center is strong and heavy enough that I could legit bludgeon someone to death with it

[steep girder]

Oh right the mob thing they sometimes do so not only can you get killed w blunt trauma but it doesn't leave a mark xD

[hearty spear]

and when it's getting fed into the presses at ungodly speeds, it can easily drag you for a ride if you fuckup

[steep girder]

Oh. I'm starting to get the picture lol

[hearty spear]

the rolls are up to 54" wide, and can have a diameter of around 60"

(And they can be stacked 4 -5 high in the warehouse)

[steep girder]

That's not really the paper though. Probably more so the industrial conveyor belt-like machinery. That stuff does spook me ngl

[heady gorge]

YO im new im james "jahmez"

[hearty spear]

Sup Kuni

[steep girder]

I bet it has big red emergency stop buttons in multiple places though :P

[hearty spear]

none of those buttons can be hit fast enough for these machines lol

I've seen videos of accidents and... 2 seconds is more than enough time for the machine to end someone

[steep girder]

Should be someone else on at least one of them while one person does feeding of any sort no?

[hearty spear]

it's not the feeding that's a risk, that's done with the machine crawling.

[steep girder]

Makes sense

And the sub-arctic cake chiller is stocked/emptied with the door unlocked. And yet it latched shut on the inside for some reason if you let it slam itself closed

A lot of metal work with cutting like automotive plants doing bumpers have so much alloy dust that you absolutely need mask. And yet my buddy managed to work months in one straight breathing that sht in. He was wondering why he was coughing like 20 pack a day guy. Idk shouldn't be allowed. Like enforce respirator the same way admins enforce rules on GTA V RP server

[steep girder]

And honestly with machinery like that, it's usually possible to put in automated failsafes to prevent it entirely. Even if it means mashing or tearing up the whole production line. I think it's worth. Modern table saw stops fast enough. If you're wearing protective gloves, should be 100% fine pretty sure. W/o glove I think I saw vid and it showed that you'd get a scratch on skin in that case

[hearty spear]

These machines cost (literally) millions to replace, and have been around for years.
We had to upgrade the computer back-end on one to get off windows XP a couple years ago? It set us back nearly half a million dollars for that alone.

[steep girder]

Yeah that's a thing. And the whole reason I'd bet was that to upgrade OS you needed to get newer machine. The whole half mill was spent because a driver wasn't available or something :P

[dense vine]

Guys

[hearty spear]

nope, same machine. These aren't easy to replace, they're bigger than a flatbed semi can carry

[dense vine]

I found someone selling an oculus dev kit

Hella cheap

[hearty spear]

so get it

[steep girder]

I tried the first occulus model from dev kit

[dense vine]

oke right away

[hearty spear]

Did you expect this discord to tell you to be financially responsible and not buy the fun toy?

[steep girder]

Friends w mansions and lotsa bucks :P His father got everyone in his fam prototype (well not quite I guess but early versions) of xperias n sht too he told me. Benefits of his work I guess

[dense vine]

No idk honestly what i expected

[steep girder]

Said that the early versions of those smartphones were heavier. sturdier, etc. So they made them out of better plastic and whatnot. Kinda cool tbh

I mean if iphone 4 prototype was misplaced and leaked when a journalist picked up an iphone 3g s shell hiding the real thing on the inside... it's kinda dumb that the end user model couldnt take 1 drop > a meter.

Literally 3g was last time I used iphone (until it got unusable lag in an update). Then everybody who got iphone 4 and upward I legit saw most of them with cracked screen or back panel. Aluminum parts always were dented at best but often times just contorted into pretzel. So moral of the story is somebody out there is using actual decently assembled xperia or iphone and everybody else gets dreck copy. Nice.

Prototype iphone 4 I guess the 3gs disguise would shield it at least

[steep girder]

If it's the first model you're referring to idk. Does cheap include optometrist bill or lasek?

I got what must be how migranes feel like within like a minute of wearing it. It has half resolution of the actual end user one. Looked like stereoscopic atari game

[steep girder]

Not fun toy but devkit for things under it**. It's not the financial aspect but a tech forum should at least give advice that won't result in user error

[hearty spear]

Have you met the users on this discord?
There isn't enough padding in the universe to protect them from themselves

[echo kettle]

fair point

[steep girder]

I guess... but honestly take my word for it because I actually wore the thing. Looked like staring into two CRT monitors with each eye 👁️ 🔥

Literally not meant to look decent for vr experience I'd say. On top of that, occulus rift devkit is obselete since rift itself is discontinued right?

[twilit pewter]

yall the roblox community is the most toxic thing ever

[night heron]

probably yeah

the tryhards on roblox that spend loads of money and exploit anyway

[steep girder]

I have a roblox account just to collect the weekly rewards from the prime gaming trial i got for a month lol

I made a dude so I could put the reward cosmetics on lmfao. Last time I played was so long ago... like pretty sure as early as 2005. It was just a lego builder at that point. Lego was awesome tbh

Now it's like mmo with http fronted the way neopets had it. That and toxic employees apparently who broadcasted inappropriate messages to all players incl minor. Great...

Anyways I overheard somebody who browbeats me about modern stack dev on Spring Boot n sht mentioning inserting something manually into http header, having redis cache and hardcoding a 404 response. Brb... 🔫

[fierce moth]

my head did not understand that

also, gonna get a psp with my christmas money

[gilded forge]

after reading Google's antitrust suit, i'm actually looking forward to this clause specifically

although this one doesnt make sense. bc Apple does the same thing

you can buy yt premium via the youtube mobile app on iphones, and it'll cost you almost $20 USD, or you can buy it on tyhe website for $14.

but there isn't a thing anywhere telling you that it's cheaper via youtube.

[steep girder]

although this one doesnt make sense. bc Apple does the same thing
So actually makes perfect sense

[fallow forge]

Hi

[fossil frost]

the 30% i dont care about, if they wanna charge that... .thats fine.. but what i have a problem with, is charging 30% and also making it practically impossible for users to have any other option for any other app store... if they wanna keep charging 30% but also allow users to choose other app stores without putting barriers in front of the user... then thats fine, because that 30% will fall very fast anyway because of competition

[sage quiver]

Afaik the distinction between the Apple and Google cases is that Google was giving individual companies sweetheart deals, with a lower percentage.

[topaz ridge]

Yeah I think they just had a stronger case against Google

I think both of them should have to change things but that's not how the world works

[steep girder]

My main concern is com.zucc.facebook.katana preinstalled on every android as system. And I'm not root. If I want root I void warranty and like 50% security features

I guess that's smartphone OEM's problem though. Why does everyone jam it in there

[topaz ridge]

It is pretty silly that root privileges break Google pay and such

[steep girder]

Lol 2023 McAfee aint nothin. How do I uninstall facebook service?

[topaz ridge]

I think you can often remove preinstalled apps without root privileges, using ADB

[steep girder]

Nope not even nearly all of them on sammy OneUI 2 I know

[topaz ridge]

Sad

[steep girder]

A lot of samsung crap too. Very sketchy package names lol. Remote log viewer, etc

Nearby share and whatnot

[waxen verge]

Fr

[steep girder]

When I do root those fws and actually debloat fully, battery life doubles as I mentioned before. Literally.

[lilac bear]

I had some Apple guy tell me that Apple needs to control the market

"if Apple suffers then we all do" yeah that IS the issue

[silver sun]

3

[sonic spruce]

Is there some special thing amd does it both the cpu and gpu is from amd?

[fossil frost]

yes, SAM, but also not, Intel can/does support it but not as well as AMD does

[lilac bear]

one of the things I like about Steam is that whenever theres a cheaper store
people go back to Steam anyway
"I want this but cheaper"
"sure go a different store"
"but that store sucks"

[hasty helm]

bomboclat

[sonic spruce]

So with a RX 7900XTX should I go with I9-12900K or Ryzen 7 7700X?