public-chat

[polar fern]

Also, apparently, because the facial recognition software was basically stupid, they had people targeted with shoplifting charges who were innocent

And considering the challenges that dark skinned people have had with such technologies, of course, that’s going to happen

https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/19/24008516/rite-aid-facial-recognition-ban-ftc-five-years

[carmine stirrup]

That's an encouraging decision

[hollow lance]

Imagine the tracking going to the next level and they store what kinds of meds you buy with the name on your card and face

Get boned when you try to get other medical help

[lilac bear]

what "business" and what "family" /j

[graceful burrow]

unreal
fuck rite aid

[low rain]

Being apart of ASB lowkey gives u permission to skip advisory and sometimes other classes like today there’s a comp between every advisory but people in ASB are the judges so we can’t participate so me and my friend ended up just walking around my whole school walking into different advisory’s to talk to our friends

[slender bone]

https://vxtwitter.com/V1N1JR/status/1737364044338618790?s=20

[barren island]

does anyone know how to fix mouse and keyboard randomly disconnecting, and yes I’ve changed the setting in power plan and device manager

[graceful burrow]

#1027757333117415424

[polar fern]

Wow, I haven’t seen someone link a Twitter post in here in a long time

Not long enough

Back to my TV show and then stuff and sleep

[lilac bear]

Free Speech Elon is taking over the world
take that wokie NEETs

[polar fern]

That man has many dollars and no sense

[lilac bear]

yeah ngl he would turn it into the next 8chan and spending tesla stock before letting X die

[edgy sun]

Why do captchas usually assume on first time that i am not a robot aka am human?

Is it because the event is on tap instead of on click?

Like if i spoof user agent to latest firefox on android and set coord on mouse then instantly emulate touched instead of mouse click

[edgy sun]

So the next next 4chan?

[wary grotto]

I got the dino deskpad as my black Friday mystery deskpad:3

[edgy sun]

He had trouble rounding up the cash just to buy Twitter. Nobody had his money lol. Which makes me wonder wtf cash vs not cash means in the billionaire realm. Like I doubt it was dozens of billions in paper or plastic notes. Hell even gold would take an effort

[wary grotto]

i happie

[edgy sun]

Was he just going around trying to get his investments out into a single chase chequing acct?

Or single swiss chequing account maybe because billions belong in there for some reason

Then again pretty sure i saw a tax breakdown of the twitter deal im not imagining things right?

[edgy sun]

May it last > 1year and never fail to track the mouse

[wary grotto]

It will

[edgy sun]

Like those 90s 2000s metal mousepads. Whats the deal with those? Cold and arthritis vibes. Then if youre lucky and the shiny metal surface tracks, the entire thing slides on table w your wrist

[graceful burrow]

they typically had a cork or rubber pad underneath them
they were also made for trackball mice, not the kind of mice we have these days, reflectivity wasnt an issue

[edgy sun]

But desk mat idk i mean it has to be decent but also the pricing can be a bit too steep. Like the gamers nexus one i wanted for builds until i saw the near 100usd tag on it

[graceful burrow]

i just use the largest steelseries qck mat and i enjoy it

[edgy sun]

I mean the gn one is for engineering i felt

[wary grotto]

i got it for 10$

perfectly reasonable for the quality

looks good too

[edgy sun]

Right at 10 bucks i would expect at least usable but honestly often times yeah even better quality than big sponsored brand at like 90usd

[wary grotto]

not sure what are you talking about , it's a really nice deskpad

[edgy sun]

And honestly material wise i feel like they are cheap. Maybe even cheaper than 10/u

[edgy sun]

Yeah i believe you is my point. And the price yeah thats what i meant. You met my requirements by and far lol. Even 20 or 30 bucks would be fine

As long as its not like 100+

[wary grotto]

yeah it's not 100+

[edgy sun]

But ye i was saying that even for 10$ you can easily stumble into better quality even than 100$ + shipping

[wary grotto]

man just let me enjoy pls

[edgy sun]

Get a cheap gel pad thing for mouse wrist and always use it over deskpad. Maybe thats a good life hack

[wary grotto]

why

[edgy sun]

Since its deskpad idk maybe one for keyboard wrist too

Because no matter how good, the first thing that inevitably happens is where wrist rubs mousepad

[sturdy dune]

i want to build or modify my own router, any suggestions?

[edgy sun]

Like mine i say lasted to this day for years under heavy use (fps games erday). But the only thing is that its been split up at the edge a bit where i always have wrist

Still use it tho. It grips, it tracks, its big and i got it for free lmfao

They print mousepads like business cards. Literally giving it away for free as if youre the one doing them a favor

So guaranteed under like 2 dollars big ol mousepads at least in bulk that last >5 years. Thats just for reference

[edgy sun]

Build. Its the same as pc only you need additional network card probably

[sturdy dune]

yeah i was thinking about getting a surplus optiplex

i can get one cheap and seems like the way to go

but yeah im completely new to networking and just getting tired of my isp gear

[edgy sun]

I mean if its sold as a high end or 'gaming router' in the range of 250usd or more idk

[sturdy dune]

nah i can get an optiplex pc for 50$

[edgy sun]

Oh used pc yeah!

I was gonna say old af pc or parts are a good option. If the optiplex is working for 50 bucks, you got yourself a router for that plus network card price

[sturdy dune]

what else would i need

[edgy sun]

And this router is easily smoking all asus wireless gaming dual core routers for 200 bucks to date lol

[sturdy dune]

do you have a link

[edgy sun]

Experience or a good enough tutorial, additional network cards at least one and a pc that can fit it

[edgy sun]

No but google it. You also need to specify a bit more. Wifi or no?

[sturdy dune]

"this router" i thought you were following that up with a product available on the internet... for purchase

[edgy sun]

Whats even the purpose tbh. If not for more control of network or advanced stuffs like packet filtering/sniffing and nefarious activities or countermeasures against the prior

Only reason i can think of personally is for saving money on guaranteed powerful enough router for your network

[sturdy dune]

wifi is preferred but if you have a reason for no wifi ill hear it

[edgy sun]

And yeah even small family networks i cant count how many times ive seen routers just fail

Three or four people, all have smart phone connected to wifi and like two more ethernet computers. Just one download

Entire network unusable. Counter strike entire server browser adds 500 ping to all servers

Lucky youre in server browser and not like dota match tbh

Then whole thing lags out. Time to restart the router again. Until next crash.

[edgy sun]

I mean I personally care more about client devices. If you use wifi, obviously get wifi on router

Smart phones. Idk maybe some androids you can hook up ethernet to the one same usb otg used for everything... but lol nah wifi is the only real option

[edgy sun]

Ultimately wifi is fine security-wise by me if you can turn all the hardware antennas off. But no wifi idk for home router youd better get it honestly. Wont regrer

But also so you need just router or modem? If you have a modem that you dont mind using, you can build just router

If you currently have a provider included all in one modem and route, youre gonna have to either get a working separate modem or put it into your build

Then the configuration and software is pretty involved from OS up the entire thing.

[edgy sun]

Routers are sold specifically for that use. They are usually really slow, have bare minimum ram if even enough. The storage is usually slow flash.

[sturdy dune]

im gonna be honest within these walls of text you have provided no useful information

[edgy sun]

But hopefully you arent building own router for software functionality purposes. At least not until you considered if things like ddwrt or other open source fw is available for your existing route

[sturdy dune]

please save your fingers and stop typing

[edgy sun]

Google it. I genuinely dont have nearly enough info in my head. But hopefully youve compiled gentoo at least once and know how to build non-game pc. So server for instance

For the rest, just. Google. it.

[edgy sun]

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Full/Installation

Then https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Home_router

[fierce moth]

ffs

dont use fucking gentoo to make a diy router

[full fossil]

hi

[edgy sun]

The alternative id use instead of gentoo on route is arch i guess. Linux for sure.

[edgy sun]

Ok so arch. Honestly big hassle but with routers, the whole thing is you use archaic used hardware (which is more often still more powerful than brand new router to date)

[fierce moth]

Or maybe use something stable like debian

[edgy sun]

So sometimes gentoo is life boat since you can get it running on like i686 32 bit intel p4. Youd have to look far and wide for popular distrib supported version that even runs on old enough metal. Plus newer distribs also will kinda have more bloat, etc

I mean no os today assumes youre on 1gb of ram 32 bit intel 800MHz lol. The one gb is max you can get on that board idk

[edgy sun]

Well no again idk if you can even install the oldest ESR on 32bit intel nowadays.

For stability idk maybe debian is better than bleeding edge. I actually argue that strongly as well

So long as drivers exist for minimally your nics, and you can get a *nix running on it, it can be router already lol

[fierce moth]

At that point it's essentially useless hardware, may as well just use a pi

[edgy sun]

Idk about windows router. Never heard of her ||whichever ones exist Id bet were sht with more security issues than 0 day fw version 2005 router||

[edgy sun]

Well pi idk first of all about bang for buck. Honestly even raspi you can make one that probably outperforms routers today

Bucks though you should probably get used 40 dollar dell or cheaper without monitor (you dont need it after installing os). Raspi too much money

Hell maybe some office is giving away for free because gpus harvested and monitor was taken away. Idk free router basically

You just gotta buy at least one network card or something. Idk what the cutoff is but for home gbe network you could still get away w PCI?

If so, that means network hardware can also be like 5$ ancient relic off ebay.

[edgy sun]

Honestly a quick google showed me you can get away without buying pc. Just use your desktop or laptop and get external card thru usb. Then install linux and bash keys. No pun intended

Ddwrt on custom hw idk. The whole point is it comes w drivers and fw all in one preconfigured to specific model. Windows router idk but dont want to even picture it. Mac might be better but you can only install it on their machine wo piracy

I think only other os ive seen router on is a BSD

Like openbsd or freebsd or some sht. So yeah, if youre making diy router, hopefully youre familiar w at least unix os

[edgy sun]

btw if not gentoo what would you recommend?

||all chips on linux of some sort||

[edgy sun]

Oh right lol you said it.

[manic torrent]

Wow you really like to type. Too bad it's stream of consciousness rubbish

[edgy sun]

But regardless of whether or not i offended your arch installing arse by calling debían a linux or if you even installed Christian ubuntu

It doesnt come w dhcp server configured and installed. Or ntp server. Or dns.

[fierce moth]

wtf are you on about

[chrome vector]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-newtron-huh-what-gif-17130861

[fierce moth]

😕

[edgy sun]

Gentoo

[edgy sun]

If you have built a router or would do so at one point, what would you get?

Ive only had two and none of them built by myself. One was gentoo. The one way back tbh was running solaris pretty sure

[manic torrent]

I recently bought a mikrotik router, but I was also considering opnsense

At work I use openbsd

I have used pfsense to segregate VMs in a local high security setup.

[edgy sun]

Ding ding openbsd lol. I feel like all routers use BSD or Linux today

Even all oem fw on routers is nix of some sort. ASUS dualcore one i had was linux i think. Ddwrt... its still linux or bsd?

[wispy marsh]

While I might not be able to afford a holistic viewpoint on this matter, I generally would like to assume everyone has news to share, and I also assume that people would think like that before anyone starts talking. With all due respect, good news is great to share, neutral news can be interesting to an extend and bad news just might just bring bad publicity. The same can be said for conversations as there are plenty of conversations happening around the world with all sorts of viewpoints - opposing view points, informative, shared and affirming view points. Regardless, it is very much up to the individual to show any extent of interest to the gibberish that I've just typed, and may everyone have a day.

[edgy sun]

viewpoint and news dont belong in same paragraph?

[wispy marsh]

Bob was right

He still is

[edgy sun]

Ye

[polar fern]

🤔

[fast parrot]

I fucking love death grips

[chrome vector]

Hey, so does anyone know how to actually see/exit out of apps that are on in the background for an iPad Pro without a home button? Like on Android, or old iOS devices?. I haven't used an Apple product like this since the iPhone 4

[wispy marsh]

Swipe up

[chrome vector]

This is all Apple says I have from the app store/iTunes. I didn't even buy that U2 Album, that was when they forced it on us

[polar fern]

@chrome vector I believe you swipe up, and it brings up the list of apps that you can swipe through and flick up to close

[wispy marsh]

U2 was a promotion iirc

If your iPad has a home bar, swipe up from the bottom of the screen

[polar fern]

I really like having home button

[wispy marsh]

You can also use the home bar to swipe quickly to apps left and right of your current app.

[polar fern]

Yeah, it’s pretty similar to how android handles its app switching, but obviously there’s an apple twist to it

[wispy marsh]

If you don't interact with the app you can swipe back to the previous app. If you do interact, it becomes the first app in the list, since it sorts by most recently opened/interacted.

[polar fern]

Android and kindle tablets

[wispy marsh]

The homebar is an amazing thing to have. It's a shame multitasking on the iPad is not great.

[chrome vector]

Oh I had to swipe that up, like, harder than normal. Probably doesn't help I'm wearing my ESD approved nitrite gloves still.

[polar fern]

Esd?

[wispy marsh]

You swipe up and hold

Electronic static discharge

[chrome vector]

I don't know what that is, if it wasn't on the iPhone 4, I don't understand it.

[polar fern]

You should still be able to use them, even with 8 mil gloves

[wispy marsh]

Finger on home bar
Finger moves horizontally

The same way you use your fingernail on a scratchcard from the petrol station

[polar fern]

Might be useful to watch the product video on the Apple site if you have any questions

Typically, when a product is introduced or updated, they go through all of the changes or how it is different from another product such as the iPhone

Wish I could help you, but an iPad is soundly out of my realm of affordability

[chrome vector]

Yeah I'll have to do that later. This is that M1 iPad Pro 2TB that I've talked about on here before, that I got brand new at a great price. I've been putting off using it lately because I've been busy doing other things. But now I want to start using it for things, like drawing & reading comics. (I just want to see how much better reading stuff on Marvel Unlimited is on a 12.9in tablet vs my phone, lmao.

I'm finally using it though, after setting it up awhile back. I actually factory reset it to set it up again

whatever

Definitely a big drawing surface

The only tablets I've personally owned other than this were really cheap small android ones from a decade ago

This seems like the one area that Apple still smacks the alternatives down

[polar fern]

The books app is actually kind of amazing

I used to read all kinds of incredibly nerdy, scientific journals reports studies and such for hours at a time on the train

The Association for Computers and the Humanities is leaving Twitter and has joined Mastodon with their own instance

Breh

Elon Musk bought Twitter to sink it. I guess he wasn’t counting on a thing like Mastodon being an option

[chrome vector]

Yeah, I'll have to try it out. I know there are differences between iPad OS and iOS, but one of the reasons I got this was to try Apple again. I am thinking about getting a cheap second hand iPhone 12 mini or something to try iOS (and small phones) again. Just to see what it's like. Like I said, I haven't used an iPhone since the 4, which I did like at the time, despite all the problems I have with Apple. It's the same reason I got a base model M1 Macbook when I found one for a decent price. I have yet to play around with that much, but I just wanted to try MacOS for the first time since elementary school.

[chrome vector]

Yeah, it seems like he's just fucking himself at this point, like to a masochist level. I don't believe he actually wanted to kill Twitter, because that very much with hurt his bottom line, but he sure is doing a good job at it.

Elon had so many fanboys all over the internet for a long time, but he's done nothing but squander that in the past years. I remember when Reddit would cream their pants for Elon Musk.

I always rolled my eyes back then, as a space nerd (Kerbals 4 lyfe), I like what Space X has done, but I still couldn't really give a flying fuck about Musk

[polar fern]

Yeah, I used to see him in a positive light, but it seems like it was all just a front

And now that I know more about the systems, materials, methods and procedures, that cars and rockets and stuff that he’s involved with should be doing, it’s just so much less impressive

He bought Tesla with his PayPal money, and he turned Tesla from a weekend/hobby car for rich people into a carbon credit company that makes ridiculously poor quality vehicles

and he put even more of that money into SpaceX and I will say that the team that puts these spacecraft and their subsystems together are far more intelligent and driven than musk is himself

I will add to this that a lot of people who promote Tesla and SpaceX as employees. You can read their body language that they joined the team because it was their passion, but they really don’t want to be working for that guy.

If you want a good example of this, watch the Tesla semi truck video on Jay Leno’s garage YouTube channel

[fossil frost]

its always been just a front, listen to the episodes on "the dollop" about him and who he really is

[polar fern]

Yeah, just like Donald Trump and many other “upstanding citizens”

[wispy marsh]

The Apple Pencil (2nd Generation) is really good for scribbling, drawing

I use mine sparingly seeing I have zero artism

[polar fern]

It’s really funny because I grew up with the Trump name as a household name. We knew that he was a crook back then it was almost a joke that he was even able to stay in business.

[fossil frost]

the dollop episodes on trump are just as good as the musk ones 🙂

[polar fern]

This finding of all kinds of fraud and stuff is like shocking to some people but we’ve known it for decades. It’s very interesting.

it’s very interesting also to see what money does to people over long period of time

[fossil frost]

corruption, money and power all feed back into each other

[polar fern]

You wonder why major league sports people don’t know how to behave it’s because they were signed sometimes right out of high school or college and they have no real life. They just get money dumped on them to play their sport or whatever and have no real chance at proper healthy personal development.

[chrome vector]

Ye, that's why I bought one. I really love my S-Pen on my S22 Ultra, I am looking forward to actually trying Apple Pencil on this big ass iPad in Procreate. I like drawing on my S22 Ultra, but this definitely gives a bigger canvas, lol.

[shut lichen]

it's been all downhill since 2020, the ketamine probably didn't help

[soft swan]

Oh yea definitely decades

They even screwed Tesla over

[polar fern]

A couple of my acquaintances from various Minecraft and other online communities use an iPad to create things and some of the stuff they make is just absolutely brain bendingly stunning

[wispy marsh]

I've the iPad Air (4th generation), got a really good bump from my iPad (5th generation). The new one still feels good in the hand, but a lot more squarish and holdable because it's flat.

[fossil frost]

Dollop Elon Musk Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYXJ2snhsCc , Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1wqCxLwRrU - its a podcast, so there are audio only versions where ever you listen to podcasts... but this is eye opening ot people who still think musk is a genius and not just a fraudster who got a lot of money from his dad

[polar fern]

Someone earlier that I kind of follow a little bit with content creation has said that it’s been a real struggle in the last year or so, as people have resumed doing most of the stuff that they had been doing in 2019 before the pandemic and it is a big shift away from 2020 when a lot of people were not travel or even really hanging outside of their homes that much. However, in that time, if you look at YouTube and twitch, you’ll see a whole giant community of artists that have sprung up out of having to stay home.

A few of them use the iPad for reading music while playing an instrument, for example

[wispy marsh]

Well, enjoy your iPad.

M1 is a pretty respectable chip for a tablet

[chrome vector]

There are so many versions of the iPad now, and so many fucking generations to keep up with, lmao. But hell yeah, looking forward to use this one more. I've got plenty of storage space if I need it. Which, to be fair, I almost certainly won't

[fossil frost]

my 8yo uses an 10" aliexpress kindle for reading music while hes playing the drums 😄

[polar fern]

A few days ago, a door hanger was placed on everyone’s door in the neighbourhood, talking about trash pickup being on a different day, and when I took the bins out the day after I saw the thing, the street was empty, except for maybe three other houses with their bins on the curb. 🤣

The change doesn’t happen until next month

This should be very entertaining

[fossil frost]

i frequently put the wrong recycling bin out in the middle of the previous day just to see how many people copy me, and then i switch it over to the correct one later in the evening 😄

[polar fern]

about 10 years ago, I was dating a college professor and she wanted me to find a decent tablet that was not an iPad and I can tell you the struggle was real. The tablet is that she ended up getting was absolutely garbage and had a resistive touchscreen.

It was for a gift

[shut lichen]

menace to society

[polar fern]

George Carlin approved

[shut lichen]

I guess you ignored the samsung galaxy tablet line, because "about 10 years ago" they were pretty good

[polar fern]

https://youtu.be/MvgN5gCuLac

Nah it needed to be under a price

[fossil frost]

people shit on android tablets because its fun to shit on them, but, depending on what you want, even the cheapo £80/$100 ones are fine (those cheapo ones are great for kids who just want to use them to watch youtube)

no need to spend £400 on a great ipad if all its gonna be used for is a child watching youtube

[chrome vector]

Thanks Apple, very cool

[manic torrent]

#lttstore

[fossil widget]

Want me to send it there?

[polar fern]

I think it was like $60

[soft swan]

I have an iPad Pro , worth every cent , they last as well only problem I had was the Apple Pencil that died

But that was 1st gen Apple Pencil

[chrome vector]

2nd Gen Apple Pencil seems so much better anyways. Who the fuck wants to use a lightning connector for their pencil?

Especially when the iPad uses USB-C, and finally, the iPhone (thanks EU)

[soft swan]

I bought this in 2017 or 2018 gen 2 didn’t exist

It was like the newest and greatest thing , but now it doesn’t work

[chrome vector]

Yeah I kinda figured, but stiill

[soft swan]

The Apple Pencil not the iPad

It charges to 100, I unplug it , just shows 3% batter low

[chrome vector]

That's the best and worst thing sbout tech. There's always something better around the corner. Wanting the best setup possible just seems exhausting.

[soft swan]

Yea that’s absolutely true

[chrome vector]

oof, that's awful. I would definitely try and get that battery replaced at a local shop

[soft swan]

Even something like 1 year old tech is considered old

But tbf the first gen iPads with the 2nd gen pencil did have a bunch of issues and bugs

Like they had that bending problem and some other things

[soft swan]

I think Apple charges like 20 bucks to replace it but it’s around 4 years out of warranty probably

[chrome vector]

Fucking warship. I went with a stupidly powerful build, and it was (specs wise) one of the most powerful in the world at the time. (13900k, 3090 ti). I got a 3090 ti for a great price (relative to MSRP) brand new in box, and I only did that because I wanted the best EVGA graphics card I could get as a last call. I went with the 13900k for a few reasons, 1: stupidity, 2: I was/am planning on doing more CPU intensive tasks outside of gaming 3: I was already going with a ridiculous GPU so I figured I might as well go all out, because this may be the only time I'm doing that, etc. (As stupid as it sounds I also wanted the cool box to put it on a shelf, I love the 12th/13th gen boxes, but that was far from the main reason I got it.)

Point is, after doing that, I understand how people get into that I NEED THE BIGGEST MOST POWERFUL SYSTEM I POSSIBLY CAN mindset. I'm not going to lie, part of me wanted to upgrade after the next generation of GPUs came out, but more importantly, I am not going to spend $2000 on a fucking GPU unless I absolutely required it.

So I get it. Having a big E-Peen is enticing, but usually not worth it unless you really have money to blow and it's your hobby. Unless I am in the situation in the future, or absolutely require a very strong system, I don't believe I will go this hard in the future.

Funnily enough, in the future I may try to custom water cool, but if there was a system that needed it, it's this one, lmao. A fucking nuclear reactor.

[chrome vector]

Yeah, you can get it done at plenty of places though. What gen do you have?

[shut lichen]

good choice on the evga 3090 ti, I want one too lol

[chrome vector]

Definitely worth it unless you are planning on getting a new one, but even then, it could be worth it to have that one for other uses. Plus, less E-waste. At worst you could sell it for parts.

[molten osprey]

[soft swan]

Yea that’s the other thing, prices lol the 3090 ti went as low as 1000 iirc, but can’t really predict the future lol . 13900K isn’t that overkill for it IMO tho

[soft swan]

1st gen

[chrome vector]

That's what I got mine for, around $1000 on ebay, brand new in box.

[soft swan]

Oh I thought for a second you bought it for msrp, so 2000

Plenty of people did that

[chrome vector]

Yeah no, absolutely fuck that. Not spending $2000 on a GPU. I would have just waited for the 4090 if I was spending that much, since it was close to launch

[chrome vector]

I don't know if I would say it's worth it unless you really needed it or find one for a good price, but it's definitely a cool card either way.

[shut lichen]

I do not give a shit how much it'll end up costing, when I have the money I'm getting one lol

[chrome vector]

RIP EVGA graphics cards. I really hope they make GPUs for AMD/Intel someday

[shut lichen]

they've already said they won't do amd

[chrome vector]

Yeah, if you are in the position that go ahead. It is last call on EVGA cards, RIP.

[shut lichen]

and I will use it until Intel makes something worthy of replacing it

[chrome vector]

I know they said that soon after announcing their departure, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do some day, I'm holding out hope either way. They could do a lot better with making both Intel & AMD if they did it. Regardless of the likelihood, I am holding out hope.

I can't wait for Intel cards to get better. If there's anyone that can kick ass in this market, it's Intel.

I am so done with Nvidia's bullshit, especially after EVGA. If EVGA made cards for Intel/AMD, I would never buy a Nvidia card ever again. Either way, I really don't feel like buying Nvidia anyways. But we will see, it will be quite awhile before I upgrade from this EVGA 3090 ti

[shut lichen]

I honestly doubt being and radeon partner is any better than being a nvidia partner

[chrome vector]

Maybe, maybe not. I feel like at very least, they can't be worse than Nvidia. However, they do also make their own Graphics Card, like Nvidia. I just don't think they are quite as bad.

Nvidia is just terrible all around, both the public facing part and behind the scenes

[chrome vector]

Hell yeah. I just think it's crazy that this thing has the m1 chip in it, have a computer and a tablet with the same chip

Shit, update time

Can't download marvel unlimited without updating

I could have gotten a 6th gen m2 ipad pro 2tb, in some ways I kinda wish I went with that (and not just because it was in space gray and this is silver), but I know there was no point in it. Plus, while it was still a great deal, it was much more expensive than this one. There's that inflated E-Peen syndrome again

[soft swan]

oh no I meant 1st gen Apple Pencil . My ipad is the iPad Pro 2017 version iirc. But m2 chips are crazy good apparently

[chrome vector]

Yeah, so are the M1's, I am happy with this, it's likely way more than I need anyways, but I'm not going to lie and say I didn't want to go even bigger since the option was there (and it was also a good sale)

Everything needs a fucking update today, Windows, iPad, now Android. Fucking hell

[chrome vector]

but... for what purpose?..

[manic torrent]

for changing my input devices and screens. I'm going to build a custom mount for them and the other switch, and I also have an ESP32 that will control them all

[chrome vector]

What are you actually doing, though? That switch thing that Youtube made (forget the names) sounds really fucking cool. Somehow I have never seen a right angle USB-A and you manage to have all of them.

[manic torrent]

The last of the adapters just arrived, so I installed them - that will allow me to mount them in a similar way to what is shown.

[jaunty compass]

Man this thing is cool but I am not going up there

[chrome vector]

Oh wait is that all USB-C? I've seen right angle USB-C cables and adapters, I have a couple, but I haven't seen USB-A ones

[manic torrent]

no, the middle one is all USB A - the outside ones that are being used as hdmi switches are powered by USB C

[chrome vector]

I have been buying a lot of adapters lately and throwing them in my non-LTT tech pouch (It's bigger than LTT's, although, I need a new one for more stuff so I probably will get an LTT one soon).

I've been buying good USB-IF certified cables for power delivery, and some good USB-4 cables for power delivery and everything else USB-4 can do like thunderbolt displays, fast data transfer, etc. I just want to actually have a bunch of a cables on standby that I know exactly what they can do. When I tried to update my PS5 controller (didn't use the cable from the box) I had to try 3 USB cables, both A and C, to find one that would work. Apparently the other ones were just for power.

Now I have some good cables, adapters, etc.

[chrome vector]

Ah, okay. What is this setup actually for, though? Like what's the endgoal/setup?

[chrome vector]

3spooky5me

[manic torrent]

Managing all of this

[full fossil]

Your right monitor is slightly miss aligned

[molten osprey]

why is your monitor in a slight angle

[fossil frost]

i assume because he wants to use it that way, and this is a working system, not a display system on youtube or in a shop

[molten osprey]

bro's greatest enemy:

[manic torrent]

because shit moves all the time and that's an in progress shot of stuff

also - it's actually an illusion there because of the angle of the photo

[full fossil]

If you have 3 monitors angling the side ones is a must

[chrome vector]

First of all, how tho?

Second, y tho?

Third, is that, like... Just a really big monitor in the middle, or are the two on sides just smaller than average. How big is that fucker, wtf.

[manic torrent]

27/48/27

[chrome vector]

Meanwhile, I am still using my OP pc on a 1080p 60hz tv at the moment. Can't wait to build my actual setup

[manic torrent]

why is because I can, how is with a whole bunch of design and work

[full fossil]

@manic torrent I use SketchUp to get a rough idea of where things are going

[manic torrent]

I use a pen and a notebook

[full fossil]

Fairs

[fossil frost]

i love watching people who have only just started doing something, try and explain something to someone who has been doing the same thing for 25 years... 😄

[jaunty compass]

Me when I BS my way through a debate on a topic I know nothing about

[manic torrent]

It's also hilarious because almost nobody realises how big the monitors are and how much the lens fucks with it, and how little it matters when it's right in front of you.
But also I had just been moving all the monitors around to put the curtain up

[jaunty compass]

I have a massive 32" monitor coming and I'm not sure what the hell I'm even going to do with it

Well
31.5" but it's close enough

[chrome vector]

Is that 16:9, though?

[manic torrent]

Each monitor is 16:9

Although the pixel density is different, the side monitors are 1440

[chrome vector]

Is the middle 4k then?

My monitor is 1440p, idk if I really even want to go to 4k tbh, 1440 is great, and less taxing

At least you can go to 1080p on 4k if you want to (without it looking that weird)

Okay boys, we got my comics and I bought procreate. We doing this.

Procreate was like, $13. Not bad for all the praise it is given, tbh.

I am actually going to try and trace some comic pages, lol.

[manic torrent]

Yes, 4k oled

[chrome vector]

Man, I am still so sketched out about OLED and burn in. I am aware of the RTings tests and what not, but it still spooks me. I can't wait until MicroLED and other technologies display companies are working on to become available. The tech nerd in me wants an OLED, the longevity in me is still sketched out about burn in.

I have heard some people have had burn in from playing (albeit, a lot) of certain games that have stuff like HUD/mini map in one place.

But nice, though
t

*that's a really nice looking setup

Needs a bigger fan, though

C'mon, you're fucking Australian. The UV index is still fucked down there, you'd be better off with a noctua case fan than that small thing.

Holy shit boys, this is so much better than on my phone. I will still read them on my phone, but this is so much closer to reading an actual book

Beautiful display, too. But so is my S22 Ultra, to be fair.

Now we big chilling with the Spider-Man

[slim yacht]

some say an inch of a difference matters

[manic torrent]

also, once again the perspective is skewed 🙂 - the fan housing is 170mm diameter

[chrome vector]

Air condition is one of the greatest inventions in history. Ignoring jusf comfort, it has legitimately saved lives.

[gleaming sinew]

fellas

i am going to power an nvidia tesla p40 using this
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/Sb26d3a6e4fd84d67bd9e08a03d9594c2b/6inch-ATX-12V-P4-4-Pin-with-Molex-LP4-to-EPS-12V-8-Pin-Motherboard-CPU.jpg_640x640.jpg_.webp

will my house burn down

epic

[chrome vector]

worth it

[chrome vector]

when you realize your fart just turned into a shart, and you don't have new pants

[sly iris]

Guys which is the better VR?
Oculus Quest 2
or HTC Vive Cosmos?

[chrome vector]

Idk, this chat is dead right now. Try tech chat 1 or 2?

[sly iris]

alr

[chrome vector]

Idk why this chat is dead at the moment

[gilded forge]

the Vive is PCVR, the Quest 2 is a standalone product.

[balmy anchor]

from old gpus what are still good? my friend was looking at 700, 900 series and 1050 or TI

[sly iris]

I have a pc I just want to know which is the better headset overall

I want to play games like DCS, beat saber, blade and sorcery etc with it

[neon mesa]

neither

[gilded forge]

the Vive doesn't exactly have anything on it. it's powered entirely by your PC. the Quest 2 is standalone, and probably less powerful than your PC.

[neon mesa]

get a pico 4 for PCVR with virtual desktop software

or if you live in the US, a reverb G2

pico 4 because it's very affordable, high res, and pancake lense
reverb G2 because it has the same resolution as pico 4 but it can run via display port which doesn't have compression

orrr if you have more budget to stretch, a Quest 3

[sly iris]

what’s the difference between quest 2 and quest 3 because I will prob connect it to my pc anyways

[balmy anchor]

AR

[neon mesa]

Pancake lens and higher resolution

everyone who switched from Quest 2 and other fresnel lens based headset to the Pico 4/Quest 3 all have the same opinion. It's night and day

[sly iris]

Alright and is the software for it hard to setup

[neon mesa]

i never owned a Quest 3 but i do own a pico 4
it's pretty straightforward

using the built in app
you just need to install the pc application and open it
then your pc will pop up in the VR application

but personally i use a third party replacement app called virtual desktop

[gilded quest]

Wait

[neon mesa]

many quest users also prefer virtual desktop over the built in link

[gilded quest]

Virtual desktop has been the actual name of an app all these years?

[neon mesa]

yea

[gilded quest]

Lmao
I thought everyone just meant a generic mode all this time

[neon mesa]

lel

[sly iris]

Alright sweet looks like im getting the pico then

Can I get it in black instead of white?

[neon mesa]

there's only the white variant
but there are many third party covers

same with quest 3

i mean yea makes sense since you're not gonna see the outside of the headset

[sly iris]

Alright yeah fair point

But why is it so cheap it’s $699 for me and I live in Australia

[neon mesa]

which one?

[sly iris]

I thought a headset like this would be like $2000

[sly iris]

Pico 4

[neon mesa]

in AUD right
so around 470 USD
still above market price globally though

how much is Quest 3

[sly iris]

About $900

For me

[chrome vector]

Spider graph for Spider-Man

[sly iris]

Yes

[neon mesa]

the MSRP for the pico is 516 AUD

while it's still above market price
there's no cheaper alternative

i guess it's still a good deal

but if you are comfortable with importing
aliexpress has them at market price

unless australia's import taxes are so high that it is pointless

[sly iris]

Yeah I’d be better off getting it from Australia

The place im looking at has it in Adelaide which is only a state over from me

But it’s a bit more expensive

[neon mesa]

oh that's top vr games

[gleaming ginkgo]

do you also cap your fps for single player games?

[neon mesa]

why

[chrome vector]

Hell yeah, DCS and WingMan.

I don't have DCS on Steam, but I do have it plus quite a few packs.

[gleaming ginkgo]

less fluctuations

[sly iris]

https://vr-zone.com.au/products/pico-4-128g#:~:text=Tax included

[chrome vector]

I got them when they were on a big sale

[neon mesa]

i need wingman 2 in my life

[chrome vector]

Hell yeah, I honestly think it was just as good if not better than the newest ace combat

[sly iris]

Does it come with hand straps on the controllers guys?

[neon mesa]

PC Ace combat don't have VR and it's a deal breaker

[chrome vector]

DCS is just military flightsim [HARDMODE]

[neon mesa]

no vr headset does so no

those are third party accessories

[gleaming ginkgo]

I think 90 fps is the sweet spot for single player games

but my pc is older so who am I to judge ( i5 8400 1660 ti)

[chrome vector]

I think anything 60fps and above is fine, but I of course do not mind more.

[gleaming ginkgo]

it really depends on the game

if it's rdr2 I need at least stable 60

[chrome vector]

It's kinda like Hz, anything above 120 or 144h, is just a cherry on top tbh

[chrome vector]

really? That's fair at least

[neon mesa]

there's no need to cap FPS if 1% low is already above monitor refresh rate

[gleaming ginkgo]

but for high on life I was checking my 1% now and 90 seems like the best compromise

i capped it at 100 previously

but those dips from 100 to 90 annoyed me

[gleaming ginkgo]

less noise

if it's a signeplayer it doesn't matter

and gsync range is also a reason i have a global 141 cap

[neon mesa]

my monitor is 1080p75 so there's that

most of my heavy duty game is in VR anyway

so i never bothered changing the monitor

[gleaming ginkgo]

my vr is 90 simply because of battery lol

[sly iris]

alr ty for the help prob going to order it

[gleaming ginkgo]

i play vr games on a 4060 (my brother's pc) and it can handle 120

even with a 10k mah battery the battery life is awful on the quest 2

[neon mesa]

why a 4060
is it a laptop

[gleaming ginkgo]

he wanted to buy it

[neon mesa]

if yes, fair enough
if it's a PC, he need to question his life decision getting that bad deal of a card

[gleaming ginkgo]

but he also likes it because it's quiet and cool

he played bf5 high 120 fps and the fans didn't even spin

the efficiency is amazing

i am not complaining because he gave me his 1660 ti

[gleaming ginkgo]

I've had a 1060

[neon mesa]

there are better deals out there like the 3060ti that will curbstomp the 4060

[gleaming ginkgo]

it wasn't available

[neon mesa]

the 4060 is only barely faster than last generation 3060

[gleaming ginkgo]

but still if you want a quiet card it's a good deal

the 3 fans 1660 ti he gave me is loud lol

but I am also using open back sennheisers

[neon mesa]

oh well, i'm not gonna bother an already made decision

quiet is certainly a weird criteria to sacrifice big performance over considering most cards are already decently silent and cases already dampening most of the sound.
Plus you'll be wearing headphones

[gleaming ginkgo]

trust me you can hear it with open backs or without headphones

but it was also the only mid range card they have at that store

[neon mesa]

the mistake is locking yourself to only one source

[gleaming ginkgo]

I would have to get a 3050 equivalent or a 4070 equivalent

[gleaming ginkgo]

it's the cheapest store in my country

the only other option is amazon

but amazon costs more and the shipping will take a while

I wish we had microcenter

[neon mesa]

how much is it anyway

[gleaming ginkgo]

the 4060?

[neon mesa]

yea

and the whole build

[gleaming ginkgo]

450 usd

I don't remember how much the pc costs

[neon mesa]

yea horrible deal

[gleaming ginkgo]

but he bought it during the crypto craze

he has r5 3600 b450 8x2 3200mhz

[gleaming ginkgo]

Everything is expensive in Israel

we just have to suck it up

[neon mesa]

ah, rip

makes sense now

[gleaming ginkgo]

computers wise even Switzerland seems cheap compared to Israel

[full fossil]

It would be cool if games had a slider for your target frame rate and it detected your hardware and chose the right settings for your target FPS.

[neon mesa]

my used 3080ti costs like 430
for new ones, you'll get a 3070/4060ti at that price

at my place

[gleaming ginkgo]

I could technically get a used 3090 for the price of 4060

[neon mesa]

why not take that

[gleaming ginkgo]

but most of them are from incompetent miners

they didn't even undervolt the cards

[grand trellis]

Isn't that automatic graphic settings with extra steps

[gleaming ginkgo]

or replaced the thermal paste

[neon mesa]

miner cards are absolutely fine though as long as the physical condition looks pristine

[gleaming ginkgo]

they are simply abused

[neon mesa]

and a lot of miners treat their cards better than gamers even

[gleaming ginkgo]

trust me they are that incompetent

[full fossil]

Pretty much but it would be better no?

[grand trellis]

Aren't they still around 1k

[neon mesa]

since gamers constantly put their cards through heat cycles, and never bother cleaning it

[grand trellis]

Which is basically the price of a 4080

[neon mesa]

it's like 700 on my place

[gleaming ginkgo]

those miners didn't bother either

[grand trellis]

It's the same thing

[neon mesa]

my 3080ti is a miner card
though it still has warranty so no risk anyway

[gleaming ginkgo]

if it's from a competent miner I wouldn't mind, in fact their cards are probably in a better shape than gamer owned ones

but those people are shady

it's like buying a sports car from those wannabe drifters

[slim owl]

guys

i need ur opiniion on sm

do i get an iphone 12 pro max or a google pixel 7 pro

[gleaming ginkgo]

why not vanilla 8?

[slim owl]

you mean the 8?

pixel 8

[gleaming ginkgo]

yes

[chrome vector]

whats the biggest app on the appstore?

I wanna download everything

[slim owl]

thats 800 euros where i live

[chrome vector]

I want to download all of iTunes and raw Apple Maps data

[slim owl]

pixel 7 pro is 500 euros here

pixel 8 is 800

[gleaming ginkgo]

fair

I guess you are considering them because of their ui

[slim owl]

yeh and because im used to android andthe software for the camera is super good

[gleaming ginkgo]

but I would also like to mention that xiaomi 14 will release globally soon

the cameras are good

my dad has the vanilla 13 and leica did a good job this time around

[slim owl]

hmm

the xiaomi 13 ultra is 650 euros here

[chrome vector]

No but seriously, ~12gb default usage out of 2Tb is not bad at all. Way better than my phone (S22 Ultra)

[gleaming ginkgo]

it will definitely have better battery life and perfomance than the pixel 7 pro

but the ui isn't as clean as the pixel's and ios

new phones always come around January so if there are no good discounts I would wait until the end of januaury if I were you

[slim owl]

well im looking to buy something around the 400-600 range

[gleaming ginkgo]

yes but older devices will also get cheaper

[slim owl]

idk if it will even come to where i live ngl

im in cyprus

[chrome vector]

Bros, is iPad ever going to have a calculator app?

[echo canopy]

Xiaomi lets you unlock the boot loader tho.

[chrome vector]

Guess I'm busting out my ole pocket calculator from 1988

[gleaming ginkgo]

pretty much only pocohpones and cheaper redmis get custom roms

[echo canopy]

Never, MBKHD even asked the CEO about it and they just said they can’t make a app for it up to their quality standards

[slim owl]

is 650 good for the 13 pro?

[gleaming ginkgo]

iphone?

[slim owl]

xiaomi

[chrome vector]

That just makes Apple look bad

[gleaming ginkgo]

but you said earlier xiaomi 13 ultra goes for the same price'

[chrome vector]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been84years-titanic-rose-dawson-gif-5372593

[lilac bear]

Quest 2 is amazing if you just want cheap VR, I think it's even on sale right now

but Quest 3 is slightly better than Quest 2 in every way
obviously costs more of a pretty penny

[slim owl]

yeah but it had a broken part so it wont rlly be good

[echo canopy]

Not really

If it was the 14 pro and you cared about photo quality maybe

[gleaming ginkgo]

it's not out yet

it just came out last month in china

[echo canopy]

I missed the not iPhone part, ops

[slim owl]

lol

[lilac bear]

buy P60 Pro

HarmonyOS > Android

[slim owl]

not available here

also isnt it lik e900 euros

[echo canopy]

To be honest all mobile OSs are pretty cringe, I want one with Ubuntu /j

[lilac bear]

they should bring back Linux phone

(yes yes I know Android is based on Linux)

[echo canopy]

It’s not based off of Linux it basically is at this point. A lot of has been merged or just Linux now

[gleaming ginkgo]

you ruined the joke lol

ubuntu is shit

[echo canopy]

That was THE JOKE

[gleaming ginkgo]

oh fuck the joke whooed over my head

[lilac bear]

the r/wooosh meta is strong right now

[slim owl]

hmm idk, the extra 150 euros is alot for me for the 13 pro

[gleaming ginkgo]

if you are into smaller phones the vanilla 13 is also good

[echo canopy]

Just make sure it supports VOLTE or a lot of American and European carriers are dropping support for it.

[slim owl]

does the 7 pro support VOLTE?

[echo canopy]

My mi 10t stoped working cause it does not

[gleaming ginkgo]

he lives in cyrpus

it will be fine

[slim owl]

yeah but im moving to sweden soon

sooo will it effect me there-

[gleaming ginkgo]

it wont if it's the european model

[slim owl]

it is

[gleaming ginkgo]

it's fine then

it is the exact same device which is sold there

[slim owl]

its also basically brand new, the pixel 7 pro was only used for liek 7 months

[knotty path]

i just bought a lamborghini huracan 😈 /joke

i wish i bought one 😭

[gleaming ginkgo]

basically the differences are, pixel has better camera and software, 13 pro has better hardware expect for the camera, but both cameras are good

[slim owl]

how much is the Oppo find x3 pro usually

[gleaming ginkgo]

avoid bbk like a plague

( a salty oneplus 8t owner)

[slim owl]

im loking for a better camera and software rn

i dont really game on it

[gleaming ginkgo]

pixel it is then

but i would personally go with the 13 pro, the better display and battery make up for it

[slim owl]

like what games would the pixel 7 pro not be able to handle

[gleaming ginkgo]

it can handle everything

[slim owl]

i heard the pixel 7 pro has like 7 hours of battery life though

[gleaming ginkgo]

it's a flagship exynos

[knotty path]

i might get the pixel 5

switch from apple to android

[gleaming ginkgo]

for the headphone jack+ calyxos?

[covert badger]

.

[knotty path]

no

just a simple switch over

[gleaming ginkgo]

for how much?

because it's a bit dated hardware wise

[knotty path]

$180

[slim owl]

yeah pixel 7 pro is about 9 hours and xiaomi 13 pro is 10 hours 24 min

[knotty path]

hardware doesn’t really matter to me, im more of a screen, bezels, camera quality, etc kinda guy , and yes ik they sound like the exact same type of thing

[slim owl]

an hr and a half of difference doesnt rlly matter to me

esp since its 150 euros extra

[gleaming ginkgo]

but you mentioend hardware

[knotty path]

I KNOW

[chrome vector]

Man, I was looking through my google photos, and I found these photos I took that I use to use as my background wallpaper. I think I might use them again, or try to recreate them (Last photo is for context)

[gleaming ginkgo]

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12013&idPhone2=11908#diff-

oops wrong phone

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?&idPhone2=11908&idPhone1=11962#diff-

[slim owl]

charging speeds are way faster on xiaomi i can see

[gleaming ginkgo]

Chinese phones are much better than every other brand

the fastest non Chinese charging is 45 (galaxy ultra line)

[gleaming ginkgo]

if you don't care about fast charging then I would keep those 150 euros,it's not a chump change

[slim owl]

when i earn 500 euros rn as a student yeah it isnt

[gleaming ginkgo]

tbh if you aren't into amazing cameras poco f5 pro will be good for you

[slim owl]

hmm its also 500 euros

[gleaming ginkgo]

wait what

[slim owl]

yeah

is that bad or sm

[gleaming ginkgo]

in my country poco f5 pro is cheaper

are you looking at the same storage models?

[slim owl]

im looking at 256gb

[gleaming ginkgo]

Double check it because poco f5 pro must be cheaper

[timid dew]

hey guys, my 4060 ti is taking 32s to post and for the light to turn on (works normal afterwards, any ideas?)

[nova coral]

Should I buy a pc right now or wait till the new year

[gleaming ginkgo]

just wait forever

just kidding

i would wait for the discounts

[nova coral]

Alright when would those be

[pliant leaf]

rtx 4070 prices went up again lol

how is the same brand with the same fan worth 100 bucks more

[gleaming ginkgo]

if you have a functional card buying a gpu now isn't the best deal

unless it's 7800xt I guess

[pliant leaf]

my card can't do what i want

so i need a new one

[gleaming ginkgo]

if you aren't into vr get a 7800xt

[pliant leaf]

About that

[gleaming ginkgo]

yep 4070 it is

[pliant leaf]

utterly joever

AMD hasn't fixed the drivers, have they

[gleaming ginkgo]

their encoder is shit

it's not about drivers

[chrome vector]

ew.

Daily reminder to tell Nvidia to fuck off

[pliant leaf]

a bit hard when they make the cards worth owning

[knotty path]

i honestly thought that said $99

[pliant leaf]

there is ONE 4070 model for the same price as the 7800xt

but i have never heard of these KFA2 guys

some hong kong brand

[steel marsh]

KFA2 is close to Palit

same with Galax

[chrome vector]

Can't wait until Intel starts catching up. I really hope AMD does with Radeon what they did with Ryzen. Fingers crossed.

Unless you uber care about raytracing, it's not that big of a deal either way.

[pliant leaf]

if LTT didn't often have sponsorships from major OEMs i'd love them to do a short circuit on lesser known manufacturers like inno3d or these guys

[pliant leaf]

i don't particularly care about ray tracing but i care a LOT about VR

and about decent upscaling software because i am extremely pessimistic about the future of game optimization

[chrome vector]

Doesn't AMD run VR fine? I know Intel had some problems (which is to be expected), but I know Linus runs VR on AMD

[neon mesa]

put your bet on intel

[pliant leaf]

doesn't the 7000 series have AV1

[gleaming ginkgo]

nvenc is simply unmatched

[neon mesa]

AMD loves being nvidia's backburner

[gleaming ginkgo]

it's not about formats but about speeds

[stiff lance]

guys I swear im here for the tech tips trust me

[chrome vector]

If anyone can catch up with Nvidia, or enter the market at all, it's definitely Intel.

[pliant leaf]

i strongly doubt that

[neon mesa]

AMD's formula has always been only giving slight discount over nvidia and claim to be the savior of gamer despite also being overpriced

Not to mention lacking nvidia features

While intel is the one that actually makes the big leaps in the budget section.
And is actually really good in the production sector and starts being decent in the AI sector

[dusk shore]

Hello guys I'm wondering imagine we can use like 5 usbs on a hub to make a storage device for cheap by combining them together 😅

[pliant leaf]

none of what you said is even remotely close to true

[neon mesa]

intel has quicksync on the production side

[velvet marsh]

I mean it's not really cost effective

[pliant leaf]

"budget section" only exists because shit laptops only good for word use the lowest tier intel chips because they're cheap

[gleaming ginkgo]

Software encoding is better

[pliant leaf]

budget gaming is virtually an amd monopoly

between steam decks, and ROG allies and basically every gaming laptop under the sun

[neon mesa]

the A750 is a thing
not to mention the flood of older 16 series

and that's not factoring used market

AMD also don't have any good budget option this generation

the 7600 is horrible value

[gleaming ginkgo]

Budget PC gaming is over, if I had 500 usd I would get a nextgen console

[neon mesa]

nah, just get used

[gleaming ginkgo]

You will end up a 12400 2060 on a good day

[pliant leaf]

would rather pick that than the 4060

[neon mesa]

my $1k build got a 3080ti, 2TB NVMe, and 32GB of RAM

[neon mesa]

never said nvidia is good

[pliant leaf]

and get zero games

[neon mesa]

the topic here is intel

[gleaming ginkgo]

Gamepass

I have gamepass on PC anyways

I don't think manufacturers care

[neon mesa]

while the production sector intel has quicksync
in the AI side intel has those XMX accelerators and here's a 2023 nov benchmark of the popular AI software stable diffusion

[gleaming ginkgo]

They are selling shitty GPUs for shitty prices

[neon mesa]

and this is intel's first gen buggy product

intel is set to launch battlemage next year

[gleaming ginkgo]

But we are discussing gaming performance

[neon mesa]

if anyone is shaking the market soon, it's intel

[gleaming ginkgo]

In production they will get a pro series Intel card or Quadro

[neon mesa]

nobody uses those in the mainstream

quadro is way overpriced and is outperformed by many geforce cards

[velvet marsh]

Very few workloads benefit from a quadro

[neon mesa]

and if gaming performance is the only thing that matters AMD wouldn't have issues gaining market

[gleaming ginkgo]

If their software would have been as good people would have bought more

[neon mesa]

their driver software is good

[pliant leaf]

we'll see i guess, i have negative faith in intel

[velvet marsh]

I actually like Adrenalin more than geforce experience

[neon mesa]

many people avoid AMD because they care about other nvidia features such as DLSS, CUDA, Tensor cores, and other non gaming things

[gleaming ginkgo]

We can also partially blame game devs

They don't optimize their game as well for AMD cards

[neon mesa]

nothing to blame on game devs
AMD performs well on games

[gleaming ginkgo]

Especially vr

[neon mesa]

VR is more on AMD's fault

thanks to their subpar encoders on 6000 series and buggy drivers on 7000

[pliant leaf]

they don't optimize their games at all because they know gamers can just upscale

jensen wasn't joking when he said native resolution gaming is dead

[gleaming ginkgo]

He is wrong

At least for now

Dlss looks like dogshit on a 1080p display

When 4k will become mainstream maybe he will be right

[neon mesa]

depends on your settings

DLSS ultra quality is straight up free FPS
it looks indistinguishable to native

[pliant leaf]

fsr is unusable on anything bigger than the steam deck's screen for me

[gleaming ginkgo]

I maxed out everything on a 4060 with dlss on and it looked bad

Hitman 3

[neon mesa]

there are multiple presets on DLSS, you're being vague

[velvet marsh]

probably dlss high performance

[gleaming ginkgo]

I forgot the name but I maxed out dlss too

[neon mesa]

maxed out DLSS also doesn't mean anything

[pliant leaf]

yeah cyberpunk ultra performance looks horrible while on quality it's almost better than native

[neon mesa]

yea sometimes it's actually better than native

[gleaming ginkgo]

Ultra quality

[neon mesa]

have virtual resolution set to higher than your display

[gleaming ginkgo]

I had to Google that their naming is that bad

[neon mesa]

then have DLSS set to ultra quality

the render resolution will be lower than native but actually looks better due to supersampling

[gleaming ginkgo]

I could also notice the weird visual issues

It's simply not there yet

[neon mesa]

are you sure you are set to ultra quality

[gleaming ginkgo]

You could argue 4060 is shit but it's not that bad

Yes

[neon mesa]

since you need too google it, maybe you just forgot what you set it to

[gleaming ginkgo]

But like you said I set the res to 1080 so I will try again

[neon mesa]

i sense a huge "making shit up" vibe

[gleaming ginkgo]

Maybe it's fine on a tv because i am not sitting as close

[gleaming ginkgo]

I set it to the max quality

[neon mesa]

i'd believe you on ultra performance settings
but ultra quality, nah

[gleaming ginkgo]

I just forgot the name

[neon mesa]

the render resolution is so close to native, the quality will be at the very least same to native

[gleaming ginkgo]

Don't you always max out every setting when you get a new card?

That was what went in my head at least

[neon mesa]

maxing out DLSS doesn't mean anything

you either focus on most FPS, or most quality

[gleaming ginkgo]

I meant I maxed out every In game setting

Including dlss

[neon mesa]

which doesn't mean anything

some games have ultra performance put on the very right which is "max"

[gleaming ginkgo]

I didn't use the preset

I did it manually

[neon mesa]

your story is not adding up

before you claim you use ultra quality dlss, now you say you manually set the render factor?

[gleaming ginkgo]

Fine but could we at least agree dlss isn't there yet

[neon mesa]

nah, DLSS is free FPS

i'd rather use ultra quality preset than native

[gleaming ginkgo]

Are you using 1080p?

[neon mesa]

not to mention, combined with super sampling it looks better than native

[gleaming ginkgo]

Wait I might have an idea

Is it because of the new frame gen feature

[neon mesa]

i don't have frame gen

[gleaming ginkgo]

Yep exactly

[neon mesa]

what is your point

[gleaming ginkgo]

It's maybe why it looked off

[neon mesa]

ah

yes frame gen is bad

[gleaming ginkgo]

Maybe the implementation in hitman 3 is simply bad

[neon mesa]

DLSS upscaling looks fine

but frame generation has many, visual artifacts

which is probably what you're seeing

[gleaming ginkgo]

Yep

I am also wondering are you into media servers, because everyone I talked to about encoding was into media servers

I personally use Plex with arr software with TRaSH guides settings

[neon mesa]

I don't care about encoders

I got nvidia to have better AI performance

[rare hatch]

guys what does red light on mobo mean?

[neon mesa]

too blurry

[gleaming ginkgo]

Clear CMOS reseat your ram and as a last resort reseat the cpu

[rare hatch]

ok it’s a new build and it won’t boot just black screen

[gleaming ginkgo]

Check out Plex and trash guides, it saved me some money

[neon mesa]

i don't watch movies

[gleaming ginkgo]

Anime?

[neon mesa]

i don't save them

[gleaming ginkgo]

You can auto delete

[neon mesa]

might as well stream directly from the site

[gleaming ginkgo]

I am a quality snob so it's the reason I am automating this

Those sites compress the hell out of it

[neon mesa]

there's this now

[gleaming ginkgo]

Bitrate

[neon mesa]

DLSS for video

also, downloading it gives the same low bitrate video

[gleaming ginkgo]

Those sites compress the webdl

You aren't thinking of sites like crunchyroll right?

[neon mesa]

i never download on crunchyroll so i don't know tbh

only stream

i'm assuming it works like youtube

which gives the same low bitrate video on your downloads

no reason for me to waste hundreds on a plex server

[gleaming ginkgo]

Oh if you are using legit sites then the quality is the same for most stuff

[neon mesa]

streaming works fine

[gleaming ginkgo]

I am using my gaming PC for that

You just cant beat Blu-rays

[neon mesa]

it's anime
even 1080p looks good

not much room for compression to mess things up

[gleaming ginkgo]

There is plenty

[neon mesa]

if it's regular movies, sure

many fine details on real life scenes

[gleaming ginkgo]

If you are interested google up 9 a n I m e

Their quality is awful

It's a blocky mess

[neon mesa]

that's not their name anymore for a long while

sites that still has that name are counterfeits

anyway, streaming is fine for me

[gleaming ginkgo]

You do you then, imo it's unwatchable

It's bitrate starved

[neon mesa]

my eyes are mostly on the subtitle anyway

[gleaming ginkgo]

I watched so much anime that I can read and watch at the same time, I am not even a native speaker

Anyways if you would like to have better quality some time remember TRaSH guides

[green linden]

bomb is going to explode

[lofty idol]

anyone know if its possible to setup a mining rig for dual socket cpus?

[graceful burrow]

For like
Cpu mining?

[lofty idol]

yes

[graceful burrow]

Is that even remotely profitable nowadays

[lofty idol]

specifically the e5 2696 v3

[lofty idol]

well unlike gpu mining thesedays cpu mining stil has profit

[gleaming ginkgo]

I hope it won't be as profitable as gpu mining used to be

I've had enough of this shit

[graceful burrow]

Gpu mining is barely profitable nowadays lol, I can't imagine cpu would be anywhere close, esp cpus that old

[gleaming ginkgo]

We said that in 2019 too

[lofty idol]

idk tbh i checked and i saw 5600x gets .50$ unlike a rx6650xt that barely gets 0.05 after electricity

[graceful burrow]

You say that like crypto and mining still have an effect on gpu prices and that didn't stop like, a year and a half ago lmao

[gleaming ginkgo]

Always a new shitcoin comes around

[gleaming ginkgo]

My old 1060 says hi, I overpaid but I had no choice

If it will happen again I simply will not choose PC gaming again

I am tired of this environment destroying bs

[graceful burrow]

I'm talking about now, not previously

[lofty idol]

i payed toomuch for a 1050ti back then too

[gleaming ginkgo]

There is no reason why it won't happen again

[graceful burrow]

[lofty idol]

either im dumb or its really profit idk i havent ever done cpu mining

[gleaming ginkgo]

If anything nvidia and AMD would be glad if it were to happen again

[gleaming ginkgo]

Sorry if I sounded like an ahole

[lofty idol]

i selfdegraded no woories

[gleaming ginkgo]

I simply couldn't get a break it was GPUs first and then they affected PSU's and storage

[graceful burrow]

You more sounded like you don't know what you're talking about tbh

[gleaming ginkgo]

I admit I am not the most knowledgeable

[lofty idol]

still the prices for 3060ti never came back down

[graceful burrow]

Card was never worth it anyway

[gleaming ginkgo]

It was so bad 6500xt was slower than a 1060

In a normal market it wouldn't have existed in the first place

[lofty idol]

i was thinking of geting a 6650xt insted of a 3060

[graceful burrow]

Nvidia pricing their stuff for too much at baseline is different kek

[gleaming ginkgo]

Guess who were willing to buy absurd amounts of them

[graceful burrow]

Two fucking years ago dude

[gleaming ginkgo]

Let a man be salty

[graceful burrow]

Not when it's unfounded

[austere shale]

Just full send a 4090

[graceful burrow]

I already got a 3090 it does me well enough

[gleaming ginkgo]

I wasn't complaining about the current prices (even though they are awful)

I just said I hope an another mining craze won't happen again

Because I've had enough of this BS

[graceful burrow]

You said a lot more than that lmao

[austere shale]

Microcenter has stuff for MSRP all the time, just gotta go in store because they don’t list it on their website that often

[gleaming ginkgo]

I still haven't mentioned anything about the current prices

[lofty idol]

asian countries dont get that lucky sadly

[gleaming ginkgo]

You brought it up

I am technically voting with my wallet because I am still using a 1660 ti

But I will probably get a 7800xt in a few months

[lofty idol]

me with my 1050 ti

[austere shale]

I use to use a 1660 super, good card for the price

[gleaming ginkgo]

I actually had a 1060 a few months ago

The 1660 ti is a hand me down

[austere shale]

My 1660 super was seized by the feds. Well, more so my entire computer was. But it was in there too

[gleaming ginkgo]

I am waiting since Turing for a good option and the best I got so far since 2018 is a bump to a 1070 lol

[gleaming ginkgo]

Irs?

[austere shale]

No not them, I use to be stupid but I’m not dumb enough to play games with them

[lofty idol]

wait why was ur pc seized by the cops?

[austere shale]

It’s a long story that I don’t wanna go into because it’s an active case 🙂

[lofty idol]

ooh nvm

[austere shale]

Nothing bad per say, and nothing that involved anybody else except myself before people start thinking

[gleaming ginkgo]

I bet your fbi agent had a field day

He got a decent 1080p rig

[austere shale]

Honestly, had just built it like a couple months prior, had a ryzen 5 5600x which was brand new or one generation old I can’t quite remember

[gilded forge]

my steam deck gets delivered in about an hour!

[gleaming ginkgo]

Damn I wish I were that agent

Slap a 6800xt into it and you are ready to get into 1440p

[austere shale]

Right, was a good day for him. Now it’s to the point where idek if I want it back if I beat my case. Because now I have a ryzen 7 7800x3d and a 4090 so it’s like what am I gonna do with my old system

[gleaming ginkgo]

Sell it

[austere shale]

True

[gleaming ginkgo]

Or a Plex server

[vocal robin]

Does anyone have any knowledge on the Gamegrid Retroplug? One of those Retro game sticks, I know some of them are mostly malware.

[undone summit]

ye

[gilded forge]

this..fucking case is so confusing. hasn't Android always had sideloading and third-party storefronts? the alternative billing thing is probably new, but the rest isnt/

[gilded quest]

Basically Google said "it's open" while at the same time did deals to "keep it closed"
That the simplest I can explain it

There are publications, like the verge, who had staff in the trial room who can explain it much better

[elfin jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-chat-bread-chat-revival-omori-dead-chat-meme-gif-25760866

[lilac bear]

Google paid other companies to fuck off and not make their own store

[runic vale]

for the past few years i thought that parental leave meant that parents leave their kids

but turns out it's not going on the job to care for a baby

good damit it's the exact opposite of what i thought

[eager notch]

Big brain time

[rare hatch]

Guys CPU and DRAM red light is on and my pc fans aren’t spinning, could they be the cause since ram and gpu have been reseated also i did reset cmos

[harsh quartz]

Is this illegal?

[burnt gull]

Does anyone have an Apple Watch in here? I want to screen record something in the workout menu, but can't seem to find a video of a specific element on YouTube or a Google Search. I'll DM you with the instructions if you don't know how to..

[ionic abyss]

Linus testing bunk audiophile junk

And if you have a ups it filters power

A audio filtering banana cost $500

[fossil frost]

<@&750150305383186585> rule 2 ? probably worth having a word 🙂

[mint yacht]

Oh not rule 2 🙂

[wary grotto]

computer

babana

why is server ded

[wheat karma]

Do y’all ever scrape the pins off your CPU?

[wary grotto]

no , im broke

[wary grotto]

yummy

gold

give them to luke

he will fix his cpu

what is the tech tip of the day

god ur username @gilded forge

MUTA

[gilded forge]

why dont developers upscale the cutscenes from 720p from the xbox one releases to 1080p or 1440p or something fro the X|S releases. OR IDK MAKE DIFFERENT VERSIONS FOR DIFFERENT HARDWARE

[wary grotto]

because

🤌

no money in that

[waxen verge]

No, I use a 7600X 🙂

[wary grotto]

Changing cpus always scares me to my death

I've only built amd pcs till now

The scariest part is when you are trying to get the cooler out and the damn processor comes out with it

[opal thunder]

That’s a bit of an issue with am4 lol

But id rather it come out than the pins coming off

Has to be intentional

[wary grotto]

💀

[opal thunder]

Especially since I spent I believe 700 on it 💀

Rather not have to put the pins back on

[wary grotto]

700💀💀💀

Usd?

[opal thunder]

CAD

[wary grotto]

oh canadain boi

[opal thunder]

Yeah

[wary grotto]

hello from america

[knotty path]

i feel like a great person rn

[wary grotto]

Is it snowing?@opal thunder

[knotty path]

i just bought one of my friends a racing simulator for christmas

[opal thunder]

It was last week but not rn

[knotty path]

hes always wanted one so i dropped $500 on a full setup for him

[opal thunder]

Based

[wary grotto]

based

[knotty path]

??

[wary grotto]

based means u are a good guy

[opal thunder]

Based = badass

[wary grotto]

thats nice , dosent snow here in atlanta

although i think its better to not have snow

[opal thunder]

[knotty path]

me and him have been friends for 12 years now

[wary grotto]

so epic , how old are u

[opal thunder]

74 (not actually)

[wary grotto]

dammm

thats based bros

[knotty path]

cant wait to see him react to it

[wary grotto]

im sure it will be epic

[knotty path]

we graduated high school together

[wary grotto]

based

[knotty path]

and are now going to the same college too

[wary grotto]

i wish to have a friend like that

[wheat karma]

No snow this year thanks to El Niño… it’s 50F everyday outside this year in the upper Midwest US

[alpine ether]

We've been getting snow out where I live

[wheat karma]

Where?

[alpine ether]

Ohio

[wheat karma]

No snow here in northern Indiana

[lilac bear]

what do fish have to do with this

[glacial crane]

halp

i can't decide p8p or zflip5

[wary grotto]

did u take a look at zenfone 10

[glacial crane]

can't

carrier forces me to choose s23 p8p zflip5 razr or razr+

[rigid fiber]

Hey guys, will memtest output the slot with the stick that’s off?

[fossil frost]

no, its more of a "your ram in general, is fucked" sort of thing

you need to put 1 stick in 1 slot at a time if you wanna diagnose a slot or a stick

[rigid fiber]

I’ve been getting these errors daily, pressing enter fixes it usually

Does GSkill have some sort of warranty on their ram, got it a couple years ago

[waxen verge]

I own a flip5... I'll be honest with you, I kinda miss the convenience of being able to pick up a phone and easily access the phone. The coolness fades away after a few weeks at most.

[ocean narwhal]

Is it true that am5 IHS is so dogshit that even on liquid u can only do 150 watts

[glacial crane]

makes sense, I'm a Linus type so I need durability

might as well go for p8p and if not that s23

[waxen verge]

Yeah then you should probably avoid a flip phone lol

[waxen verge]

Great pick.

[glacial crane]

I'm coming from an s22

didn't really love oneui and love everything abt pixel

[waxen verge]

I came from an s22 too, actually. I really liked it apart from the poor battery life.

[waxen verge]

Fair opinion. Personally I really love OneUI so I'm sticking with Samsung, even if there are better offerings out there.

But to each their own

👍

[wary grotto]

shimmy shimmy ay shimmy ay shimmy aa

[humble quiver]

i need someone from not america to help me math out some probabilities

[wary grotto]

i am from america

just got pixel buds pro

[humble quiver]

lets say 41 times in a row something happens that have a 50% chance of happening

[waxen verge]

Sounds a wee bit racist there ngl 🙁

[wary grotto]

they are nice

[wary grotto]

mhm

[humble quiver]

its for the meme

i dont mean it

[wary grotto]

continue

[humble quiver]

what are the odds of that happening in a row

[wary grotto]

50%

[humble quiver]

in like 1 in blabla

[humble quiver]

bro you're confirming my 1st sentence...

i asked for in a row

[wary grotto]

idk

[waxen verge]

idk

[wary grotto]

more than 0%