public-chat

[full fossil]

make them drink water

[steep girder]

So don't go over whatever max current rating on one rail is when drives are at peak draw

[shut lichen]

12v at 1.5 A is only 18W

[manic torrent]

as I said, most PSUs are single rail, so there is no limit on drawing per rail, only the limits per connector, but those are not enforced by the PSU

[steep girder]

And windows can like idk spin up all drives at once when you launch my computer so

[shut lichen]

x10 would be 180W, that's nothing

[steep girder]

Oh ok opposite of what I thought

[shut lichen]

my cpu uses more power

[steep girder]

Makes sense actually because over current you want to avoid on the wiring I guess

Idk 10 HDD though

Spinning up at once because you clicked icon on desktop

[manic torrent]

TYPICALLY if you're using lots of drives you'd use a case/drive bays that have power input and send it to X drives.

[steep girder]

^

[manic torrent]

You can offset your drive spinup, and typically in a raid setup you disable spin down

but that isn't a huge deal, and modern drives aren't anywhere near as terrible on startup as they used to be

[shut lichen]

and remember, yell at your drives to let them know they're doing a good job 😉

[steep girder]

Literally my suggestion. Feels like 10 hdd is a bad idea without external power. Especially if you raid them or something. Probably bay outside machine lol. Also you dont want 10 HDDs in one even full tower case likely

Wait wtf yeah where would you even fit 10 hdds inside case lol

[shut lichen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4

[manic torrent]

..... looooool again

[steep girder]

And if you do have space for 10 drives inside, it's likely inside tiny shroud stacked like sardines beside PSU on top of that

[manic torrent]

I had 16 hotswap drives in my coolermaster stacker full tower like 10+ years ago

[steep girder]

Shrouded?

[shut lichen]

clueless

they've said what case they're using

[manic torrent]

wtf do you mean shrouded. They were in hotswap bays. Before they were in hotswap bays they were in 4in3 fixes bays though.

You keep saying shit that is entirely wrong with complete confidence.

[steep girder]

Idk I had 3 in mid tower and felt the heat just from the bay. With confidence because heat was there

But yeah that was my point I'd worry about power and where tf you situate all 10 hdds lol. After that, use up as many sata as possible on mobo to still have however many m.2 available and get pcie card with remainder lol

If you really need internal expansion card for whichever reason. Pcie4 card idk why you'd want that

[manic torrent]

or just get a sas card

You are only worried about power because you don't understand it

[steep girder]

Whatever fits all remaining drives and you have enough bandwidth not to bottleneck the speeds. Can you not just run like 6 7200s off pcie3 or 2? At once?

x8

[shut lichen]

still clueless. how about you look up the case they've mentioned and see how many drives it can hold (hint: it's more than 10)

[manic torrent]

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/153756989133

[steep girder]

Hella case then. Still 10 hdds it can fit I hope it also fits 140140mm fan right beside that. And antivibration. Idk about rubber dampener glued will help with 10 hdd

So fractal design one right? Yeah no

I had this one idea and HWbob even said it: external enclosure of some sort

Interface = something you already have without buying ibm sas expansion slot that looks like it's from 1989. GBe if you have two. USB ports? If you fit them inside you can still maybe use usb header on mobo

Unless all 10 hdd running windows boot and it doesn't let you install because it's 'external drive'. Idk man. Any SAS card will do but again don't waste pcie4 slot on it

End of dimmskii tech tip

Although 10 hdd press spin up all at once sounds fun. I wanna see if it'll rock the case like vin diesel's dad's car. So much torque it twisted the chasis

[shut lichen]

your lack of hard drive knowledge is funny

[errant mesa]

I applied for a job and forgot to add stuff to my CV

[steep girder]

Am I actually wrong though? 10 hdd inside even that case?

You can mirror them and done right you can have whatever number of drives times the speed right?

You can strip 10 hdds. Lots of space until one dies

[sudden shale]

I suddenly have the urge to drink a lava lamp

[errant mesa]

Put chocolate Inside instead.

Now I want a lava lamp 😭

[full fossil]

okay so wait why would you have 10 hdds booting windows

[sudden shale]

Goddammit KS Hairdos have so many hair I can't find a good one

[steep girder]

There was this ancient myth about a virus that moved head back and forth on drives until it resonated enough for platters to fly out and kill everyone in room at 7200rpm like ripper gun from UT

[full fossil]

am I even reading that right lol

[boreal nimbus]

What are they even doing with that

[steep girder]

That was a myth though... or was it

[boreal nimbus]

oh wow that message was quite a bit back

[boreal nimbus]

theres only one way to find out

[full fossil]

why not get a 16tb enterprise grade HDD instead of using 10 of them

[steep girder]

Nah it was a myth. IRL the real scary fact was hdds like twice as big but only 5mb or some sht

[full fossil]

those would last years without failing

[steep girder]

If it does get scratched though... 16tb density shingled. You lose more and more right?

80GB drive I lost one or two mp3 files after at least a month of CRC errors on write without realizing the drive was sandy

[full fossil]

they are very slow xD

[full fossil]

I have an 80gb hdd too lol it's a hitachi deskstar from 2006

it has linux or something on it I dont remember

[steep girder]

Yeah hitachi. I think those were beast. Wait is it still alive?

[full fossil]

yeah

[steep girder]

Nice lol

[full fossil]

it makes some huge sounds very clanky and loud

when its reading it makes loud tick sounds

[steep girder]

Yeah mine started getting scratched because I like kicked it a lot during one period. Not sure why. Was stoops in hindsight.

[full fossil]

its not in a bad way though, I have heard a failing HDD before it just makes loud sounds wile seeking

[steep girder]

Back then it was just that I'd never thought a drive would actually die on me from any level of abuse :P

Yeah I mean could always fail from bearing or controller fried and whatnot. Now the mission got way harder to rescue data

[full fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyNdtKnulLo

watch this lol

its exactialy the same

[steep girder]

Oh wtf

[full fossil]

its v loud

[steep girder]

Never had that start happening on a drive. But are you sure it's not just normal sound it makes on read/write?

[full fossil]

it still does 100-200mbs

its still pretty mint its just old

[steep girder]

Some drives were loud asfk too back in the day. I swear I heard one do that normally. If it didn't make that sound before though idk copy whatever you need off of it lol

[full fossil]

it has my phone backup on it lol I trust it enough to hold that information on there

[steep girder]

Nah if it didn't use to do that quieter whining sound before, it's probably bad. Maybe bearings failing or something. A bearing failing is it gets bad but at one point locks up possibly. Dunzo. Likely a data recovery moment if you have anything important on there

[full fossil]

hitachi deskstars never die they just keep going

[steep girder]

Lmao

Then Im a hitache because a bearing locked up on skateboard one time. I kept going (for the short distance it took me). What's funny is my buddy used to creep up behind and stop the board with his foot. I thought it was him doing that. Kinda prepared me for it. Otherwise might have eaten it. But it was spooky when I looked back and nobody was there

If I was on a longboard downhill like 50mph though. Hopefully I had helmet. abec9s or whatever are nice until they instantly become abec0

[full fossil]

i broke my rib at a skatepark oof

I was tring to do a kickflip and somehow ended up landing onto the trucks of my skateboard

mind you I was pretty drunk when I did it i barely remember that night besides the pain I was in

[steep girder]

Yikes. Well honestly the booze was responsible but also helped somehow lol

No actually the trucks ending up under ribs isnt even booze. Just skating tbh

Its always the small crap like kickflip too wtf. A buddy of mine broke his arm and got screws just doing tre flip off curb. Meanwhile I showed up learning to drop into 5ft near vert and wiped out 100 times nothing

Im always scared of that lol. But at least you didnt break arm idk. He has screw in one of his elbows and he plays guitar. Can't bend arm fully now. Luckily enough to play guitar still

[full fossil]

i cant seem to get my elgato keylights to connect to my network for some reason :C

[sudden shale]

Is it read Porsche 911 or Porsche 9/11? (This is not a 9/11 joke I'm genuinely asking)

[golden wave]

In Germany we say 9/11

[tranquil goblet]

Hiya people

Hope y'all are having a good day or night

[raven pelican]

snow

[gilded forge]

that is in fact snow

[gray zephyr]

Guys after many tried of my game crashing and even big files copying crashing pc found that turning gen 4 to gen 3 of pcie solves both issues ..way i have problems with gen 4 ?
My nvme drive is gen 4 one of them at least
And rtx 3080

[wispy gale]

Reseat the cpu. Make sure there aren't any damaged pins/lands. Make sure there isn't dust in the SSD connector.

For a troubleshooting step, remove over clock settings, and make sure voltages are all in spec. You may have a bad drive, or a failing power supply.

[gray zephyr]

Oh man check on Reddit and all a lot of people had the same issue and no fix x)

[gray zephyr]

Thank you sir

Could be power supply im not sure . I did a lot of tests including clean windows install
Don't have any overclocking
The m2 drives are new and updated . The gpu was fine

On gen 3 is flawless

And was on auto before had no problem

[strong scaffold]

Is openvpn community edition safe to install on my computer

[sudden shale]

I would like to bathe in lava lamp fluid

Call it a ritual

The sudden urge to learn about the nervous system instead of language even though tomorrow is language exam:

[maiden comet]

Hey there's no bread in this

[prime solstice]

Idk

[gentle slate]

yall, the typical ethernet port is called Rj45 ye?

[raven pelican]

yeah

[vapid cypress]

Hello

[latent cove]

i feel like shit

[patent pelican]

2.54 a galon

[gentle slate]

nvm then. I fucking hate fiber internet

[rugged bridge]

yall i didnt know photoshop showed in discord rich presence

[vapid cypress]

Simple just don't feel like shit

[rugged bridge]

this u?

[wispy gale]

If you get the release from a trusted source, the VPN software itself is not inherently dangerous. If you connect to shady VPN servers, that could be a problem for you.

[hazy parrot]

Just use tor

What are we doing with vpns for

[vapid cypress]

Id reccomend mullvad vpn

[wispy marsh]

Blade & Sorcery was fun

I didn't realise you couldn't stealth kill an enemy without everyone noticing you

[rugged bridge]

i use wireguard for my homelab

[sudden bough]

Google is deleting in active accounts

[sudden bough]

Same

[hazy parrot]

What constitutes an inactive account

Cause I got a ton of gmails lol

[sudden bough]

Idk accounts that haven’t been logged into in forever

[wispy marsh]

Just login

[rugged bridge]

google just pulling a google

[sudden bough]

I have it set to auto delete after x months

[hazy parrot]

Thanks for heads up

[valid patio]

anyone use a 7900 xtx? if so how is the coil whine?

[hazy parrot]

They know how many burner emails we have

[rugged bridge]

lmao i use my domain for that

[sudden bough]

I use a temp email for that

[hazy parrot]

Ok listen

Many many many services, have a whitelist. And blacklist everything else it’s absurd

[hazy parrot]

10 minute mail is great

[sudden bough]

Yes

[hazy parrot]

But it’s useless for things

[sudden bough]

I use it for things I don’t actually care about

[hazy parrot]

Yea, how much bandwidth does an email client need

Self host doesn’t sound too demanding

[rugged bridge]

client or server

[hazy parrot]

You’re right. Server.

[sudden bough]

Can’t self host an email server can you?

[hazy parrot]

Client is the easy part

[rugged bridge]

they can be complicated to setup

[sudden bough]

I don’t think it was possible in the US

[rugged bridge]

i just use cloudflares email forwarding feature

[sudden bough]

OIC

[hazy parrot]

Having your own domain sounds really appealing

[rugged bridge]

i had an email server but it was a pain in the backside and annoying to use with clients like outlook

[sudden bough]

I use Google phone as my work phone

People like to randomly call me

[strong scaffold]

Im using ikev2/ipsec

[rugged bridge]

lmao you wont beleive what someone said to me the other day lol it was funny

[strong scaffold]

Using my asus router's built in vpn server function

[strong scaffold]

@rugged bridge

[rugged bridge]

ive got an isp router

[hazy parrot]

I mean he trusted it

[strong scaffold]

Hmm, i see

[neon mesa]

yea broken feature

no need to stealth kill anyway, maining just gravity is overpowered

[wispy marsh]

I was in it until the first two ones

Wish we had a choke feature like 2077/dishonored

[neon mesa]

you can with mods

there is a neck snap mod

[white pawn]

cheaper than it is in the atlanta area

[sudden shale]

I wonder which mod I installed that absolutely boosts my SSE FPS

[carmine stirrup]

My new toys! 😄

[gilded quest]

those aren't LEGO

[full fossil]

are these R9 290x's?

I am going off how they look here sorry if I got the name wrong lol

the heck is that keyboard tho xDDD

[carmine stirrup]

The cards are 1070Ti's 🙂

The keyboard is a Dygma mechanical ergo 🙂

I have an SLI bridge coming and I'm going to set these cards up in an FX 9590 machine for olde tyme kicks

[white pawn]

if only they had gotten sli to work worth anything

[hearty spear]

are you going SLI? lol
2016 LETS GOOOOOO

[hearty spear]

there's like 20 games it works with

[white pawn]

ehh, and how well did they really work?

[gilded quest]

i wonder what the most recent game to support SLI is

[hearty spear]

some nearly doubled performance over a single card

so if it was actually implemented correctly, it worked /really/ well

[vapid cypress]

Bawls

[hearty spear]

is a tasty tasty beverage

[vapid cypress]

Yes

[hearty spear]

https://youtu.be/i0Ok8I-7EBk?t=139
It really depended on the title's implementation

and yes, some games did WORSE in SLI than single cards. So, there's a reason it went buh bye

[vapid cypress]

I thought sli was peak build back when I knew nothing about PC's

[white pawn]

yeah, but nothing actually worked well. it required drivers from the vendor and specific programming from the game companies 😛

[hearty spear]

Except for the titles that did work well. So, you're just making BS statements.

[frail cipher]

does anyone here have a samsung phone with different android on it?
like, an a10 with android 12, which shouldn't be possible?

[white pawn]

and the biggest succeses ran poorly, cause trying to get two video cards to sync up isn;t trivial

[white pawn]

https://www.xda-developers.com/what-happened-multi-gpu-gaming/

[hearty spear]

you're right, it is hard to make work right, there's a reason it died.

not because it didn't work, but because there wasn't enough juice for the squeeze

[gilded quest]

its more work for devs and people who had 2+ cards were a small minority

[white pawn]

the hard to make it work isn't even why it died tho. video cards became powerful enough that there was just no need

[hearty spear]

absolutely not. There are people who ran SLI 3090's (okay, NVLinked, but whatever)

If it was an option there are idiots out there who would NVLink / SLI 4090's if they could

[white pawn]

I love how depending on what it is, things are either loved all out of proportion to whether they ever worked well or not 😛

[hearty spear]

There will always be people who want to do the biggest, dumbest thing in the world, regardless of if it made any sense or not.

[white pawn]

ok, there are people who thought IE6 was a good enough idea they made Chrome 😛 doesn't mean it was great

[hearty spear]

you are /really/ bad at discussion / debate, aren't you?

[white pawn]

you're getting all butthurt cause what, i mentioned a few facts about sli? they are facts, not a judgement

[gilded quest]

i'd argue this just fed into even less people buying 2+ cards, causing even less incentive for devs to work on SLI

[jaunty compass]

micro stutter 😔

[hearty spear]

you have an odd definition of "facts" but, hey, you do you.

[white pawn]

pretty much exactly what happened

[jaunty compass]

not really, it's that it introduced some severe issues that made it only viable for benchmarks

[white pawn]

odd definition of facts? point out one thing i said that was wrong. I'll wait

[spice pine]

this looks like an obnoxious conversation

y'all have fun with that 🍞

[hearty spear]

This. When I linked a LTT Video showing a 90%+ uplift for SLI in some titles.
Therefore some titles DID work well.

[jaunty compass]

SLI died because of a lot of reasons tbh

[hearty spear]

Which is why it returned on the 3090?
When the 20 series completely left it out?

[white pawn]

compared to what, and how many years later?

[hearty spear]

..... it's a 7 year old video featuring the 1080 when it was current. you are really bad at this.

SLI vs Single Card. it's not that hard to benchmark that.

[white pawn]

did you watch the video after where you bookmarked? or just stopped when he said something you agreed with

[jaunty compass]

SLI died because it required a ton of optimization for a super small percentage of users, SLI setups were expensive and didn't even run games well because of micro stuttering, and also they used a bunch of power lol

after a certain point it just wasn't worth it for nvidia or enthusiasts

[hearty spear]

yep. I know SLI died, and I don't think that dying was wrong.
It was an exceptionally niche tech that was too hard to make work well to justify the outlay.

[jaunty compass]

so support died and sli died

[hearty spear]

But saying it was inherently bad is being exceptionally disingenuous.
It was a cool tech when it was around, but it wasn't practical to keep alive.

[vapid cypress]

This is so sad

[gilded quest]

its a lot of work that ultimately doesn't sell more copies of games

[neon mesa]

dual gpu has to be rebuilt from the ground up
SLI is a 2004 technology

[hearty spear]

only sells minimal more hardware.

[jaunty compass]

and only sold a handful more gpus

[neon mesa]

but it isn't worth it to do so (for the companies)

[jaunty compass]

pretty much

[hearty spear]

I ran SLI in the late 90's lol

[white pawn]

oops, wrong reply

[neon mesa]

SLI before 2004 and after is different

[gilded quest]

👴

[neon mesa]

there's 3dfx's SLI and Nvidia's SLI

[hearty spear]

I'm absolutely an old man rofl

[gilded quest]

gramps

[white pawn]

was a 90s tech 🙂

[jaunty compass]

Multi gpu is not a bad idea but for games it's not super viable at this point

[white pawn]

Nvidia bought 3dfx and got the tech from them

[neon mesa]

Scan line interleave was
which was developed by 3dfx
nvidia's sli is scalable link interface released in 2004

[white pawn]

yeah, they only renamed it

[hearty spear]

and enterprise cards work around it through the PCIE bus, and don't need the extra connectors.

[neon mesa]

they never end up using 3dfx's version of SLI

[jaunty compass]

speaking of scanlines
I need to pick up a 900 series gpu for my crt

I don't have any cards that can do native analogue out rn

[hearty spear]

some 10 series can have analog DVI out

[jaunty compass]

I thought 900 series was the last one that had analog dvi out

[hearty spear]

it wasn't standard, but some did have it

some 10 series had no DVI at all

[jaunty compass]

I'll just grab a cheap 980 on ebay or something tbh

[hearty spear]

gigabyte 1080:

[neon mesa]

an explanation from LTT forum
difference between 3dfx SLI and nvidia SLI

The only way I might be able to contribute is by adding that Scalable Link Interface, unlike Scan Line Interleave, is more based on the shared power of two or more GPU's, essentially meaning that instead of using the two cards as SEPARATE CARDS (like 3dfx's method), the two are treated in the same way as SMP processing. In the old days, each graphics card was responsible for an alternating load to carry, but if the loads were imbalanced (the process assigned to GPU one is more intensive than the one assigned to GPU two, for example), there would be visible stutters and frame rate dips as GPU two waits for GPU one to finish before outputing its render. However, with Nvidia's implimentation, the two processors share the same VRAM data, and instead the loads are more evenly balanced across both cards. The two cards work together to render data in VRAM, as apposed to evenly splitting up the workload and having half the data in each card's VRAM. That's why modern SLI doesn't scale buffer space, it mainly scales processing capacity.

[jaunty compass]

DVI is digital, does it support analog over DVI or does it just have dvi

because those are very different things

I have a feeling you just misunderstand the thing i'm looking for

[neon mesa]

tl;dr
nvidia SLI: both processors uses the same VRAM data, treated as one
3dfx SLI: both gpus are still treated as separate

[hearty spear]

nope, the 4 pins surrounding the slot on a DVI Connector say if it has analog or not:

If those 4 pins are present it can do analog, if not, it's only digital

(Which also made DVI Cables super fuckin' frustrating, as a DVI-I cable can't plug into a DVI-D connector, cuz there's no holes for the pins)

[jaunty compass]

ig some AIB cards can do analogue out in 10 series then

i'll need to pick one up

[white pawn]

was my understanding that nvidia essentially only modernized it to use PCI-E, which allowed for treating the cards as a single card with seperate memory pools, as opposed to agp/pci, which didnt

[gilded quest]

damn mine can't do analog

[hearty spear]

yeah, it's def not all of them, so be careful, but it is an option.

[neon mesa]

nvidia's SLI does not have separate memory pools

[white pawn]

yeah, iwrote thqat backwards

sorry, was reading the article as i wrote

[neon mesa]

nvidia's sli uses only the main card's VRAM

[jaunty compass]

I wasn't aware any of them could, I thought they removed the encoders on 10 series

[hearty spear]

for example, this 1080 from gigabyte does NOT support analog:
so it's really a card-by card

[neon mesa]

3dfx's sli was global, games did not have to be programmed for it
it renders in interlace, so every horizontal line of pixels
mainly because older D3D games were simpler.
this isn't possible with newer technologies where there are multiple rendering passes which is why nvidia scrapped 3dfx's tech and just created their own implementation

if only modern multi-gpu works like 3dfx's old SLI

[hearty spear]

I really wish I'd kept my SLI V2's. >.<

[neon mesa]

oh, 3dfx SLI also has 1:1 scaling

2 gpu, 2x performance

however, it's plagued with stuttering as one gpu is usually overloaded and the others has to wait

worse than nvidia SLI's stuttering

[white pawn]

yup, which was literally my only thing to point out, even on games with a huge uplift, there was still stuttering and other effects, which, for me, means it isn't running right. of course, I am immediately a pariah for daring to mention this in chat.

[neon mesa]

the best thing the old SLI was used for is FXAA instead of moar frames

[white pawn]

ok, thats friggin bizarre LOL

[vapid cypress]

That's what I'm sayin

[white pawn]

altho, i think they shoulda used the guys voice for linus and the woman's for luke, woulda make it even more surreal

[vapid cypress]

Linus wore the maid suit, it's in character

[carmine stirrup]

yup! I wasn't doing much with computers in that time period and I missed out on Nvidia SLI

[hearty spear]

sadly there's really very little to be gained from it? But it's still cool to play with

[carmine stirrup]

Yeah, I'm mostly doing this because I was able to grab a pair of 1070Tis for $90 each

I have to admit, though, two of the same card in a PC looks sexy

[graceful burrow]

whats the point of two gpus without the sli bridge

[harsh quartz]

Hard drive bays and SLI, I can feel the old oozing off of it

[carmine stirrup]

the SLI bridge will arrive in 2 days

[graceful burrow]

good

[carmine stirrup]

LOL! right?

[graceful burrow]

then it can be useless then, too

[carmine stirrup]

It'll be slightly less useless

[graceful burrow]

eh

sli is rarely useful

esp nowadays

[carmine stirrup]

peak tomb raider 🤣

[white pawn]

all i can think is, "that's a lotta heat!" 🙂

[harsh quartz]

Just cause it’s red inside doesn’t mean it’s hot, it’s a color coming from the led :p

[carmine stirrup]

A bit, I imagine. These are both blower style, so they dump heat out the back

[white pawn]

ahh, that will definitely help

[steep girder]

The card supports it. New cards don't even have it

[white pawn]

i like to think you could probably heat a small apartment in the days of 4 way sli

[carmine stirrup]

Pretty likely

[harsh quartz]

Now all it takes is a 16pin high voltage connector and you’ll be pretty toasty

[white pawn]

oh dear god

[steep girder]

Wait new cards don't even have dvi anymore so lol

[carmine stirrup]

Crysis here I come!

LOL

[vapid cypress]

Dvi and VGA are so ugly

Ugly and old

[harsh quartz]

They’re not bad for office computers but for gaming yeah they ain’t so hot

[echo canopy]

wut? fxaa sucks ass https://youtu.be/nEbAJHd84ug?t=224&si=qjHwFr8Hya5jYjeO

[steep girder]

1080 might still have analog out

I think my 1060 did

[steep girder]

Yet I miss

That one screw that doesn't come out anymore lol

[echo canopy]

you can get decent 720 HFR with VGA

[white pawn]

I'm curious how it will be, surely more powerful processors and other system hardware could make it a smoother experience

[harsh quartz]

It’s not about running perfectly

[carmine stirrup]

Yeah, I plan to try it in a few systems. I'm starting with my FX 8350 for peak 2016 gaming.

Then I'll toss it in a Ryzan 5 3600 system

and I may even give it a go in my 12900k system

[harsh quartz]

Fx series was as late as 2016?

[white pawn]

it was all we had for a while, i think the first TAA game was in like 2013 😛 of course, it also doesn't smear like TAA does, not that it doesn;t have it's own flaws

[carmine stirrup]

No, its like 2012

[gilded quest]

Just like me 🥰

[carmine stirrup]

I don't have any hotness from 2016 tho

[echo canopy]

fxaa smears its just not temporal smearing

[harsh quartz]

That’s more along the lines I remembered, cause I remeber them being absolutely shit and having lied about their physical core counts

[white pawn]

nahh, wasn't saying that, I;m just curious if newer hardware supporting the rest of the system will make it any smoother

[carmine stirrup]

tbh, my 8350 runs pretty nicely with its 5.2GHz overclock. I kinda want to get a 9590 and take it up to 6+GHz for kicks

[echo canopy]

would rather use sli for super resolution then FXAA

[carmine stirrup]

but people want stupid money for these things, still

[white pawn]

im gonna hafta look up the difference in smearing, i always thought fxaa was more hardware intensive

[carmine stirrup]

Like... it's a 10 year old CPU. I don't care how 1337 it is, it's not worth that

[white pawn]

LOL

[harsh quartz]

Maybe so, I had something like a fx4300 which is a “quad core” but it’s really 2 physical and 4 virtual cores, ran like shit

[echo canopy]

FXAA is supposed to be the cheapest anti aliasing if you could even call it that. its fast AND terrible

[white pawn]

yeah, im reading up on it now, it seems to be a total kludge of a solution

[vapid cypress]

I'm surprised hdmi in aren't popular on gaming laptops

Would be very cool

[jaunty compass]

Yeah they got sued for that

[jaunty compass]

(Budget) Gaming laptops usually have shit displays and that ads quite a bit of cost

[carmine stirrup]

Oof

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, I didn’t even know about it till like last year, I always wondered why they were so bad on 4 cores, makes sense now

Of course, the 8gb of ddr3 and the 5400 rpm drive I had it paired with didn’t help either

[carmine stirrup]

Facts

[vapid cypress]

Yeah it's a shame

I always wanted to plug in my steam deck into my laptop

[harsh quartz]

I recently wanted to use my legion as a monitor but doesn’t have functionality:(

[echo canopy]

but why

[white pawn]

apparently nvidia is a champion of fxaa, as it used less resources and results in higher framerates while not being as perfomative?(is that the word?) as TAA

[harsh quartz]

Big screen, 2 monitors

[white pawn]

i have thought this same thing, and never seen an hdmi in on any laptop that i've come across

[echo canopy]

yes

[vapid cypress]

I want a slightly bigger screen that is also portable and no I don't want to buy a portable display

[harsh quartz]

Just buy a second steam deck and tape them together

[white pawn]

LOL SLI steamdeck

"now with double the resolution!"

[vapid cypress]

And double the controls

[white pawn]

i dunno if that scares me more than the thought of the heat youd have in the middle

wait wait, you could hook a noctua nh-d15 to each, and then interlock them togetrher and just put a fan on each side and uhh

and then it would weigh ten pounds!

[harsh quartz]

3ds but it’s just two steam decks

[vapid cypress]

I wonder if you solder in a hdmi on a steam deck like a little hackerooo and then configure it a way that it would work

But I'm too stupid for that

[stable cave]

[jaunty compass]

This person doesn't know about that one 3D print project

[white pawn]

honestly, i would think that would be easy as long as you can get the pinouit specs for the display connection inside. then it would just be a matter of bridging an hdmi port off it(in theory)

[stable cave]

Is there a way to get yellow colour role?

[steep girder]

Use vnc or remote desktop on it lol

Idea 2023?

||Gonna be shite though||

[jaunty compass]

Alternatively just use steam link on a tablet

[vapid cypress]

Yes that 3D printing project the millions of them yes

[jaunty compass]

With a grip thingy

[vapid cypress]

By slightly I mean a laptop size display

[harsh quartz]

Basically this

[steep girder]

Heh there you go. 3DS

[vapid cypress]

The ultimate emulator

[harsh quartz]

Not sure I would like the latency on this tho

[steep girder]

Idk 3ds just feels like get one and buy r4

Emulate'd

Wait doesn't it have 3d display too?

That just got trickier...

[jaunty compass]

No games even require the 3d

[steep girder]

I played with one a bit I recall. Had an anti-headache adjustmnet slider :P

Yeah it was just a cool bell/whistle

[jaunty compass]

One nobody used

[steep girder]

I think most people just set to min and it was 2d

right

[jaunty compass]

Min was off

Most people turned it off to save battery

And to save the headaches

[steep girder]

Ah I didn't know about the battery part

I was gonna say feels like should have been 1/2 the buffer but yeah you're rendering scene twice for stereo

Nifty that they at least stopped doing that if you disabled it

Was probably the battery saver

nvidia 3d vision was the real headache

it was 1/2 refresh rate alternating. And when you looked around room everything was in the matrix because of the shutters

"I wanted to take a break from the game"

[white pawn]

Welp, I'm gonna game like it's 1991 🙂 I have finally paid for a full copy of Scorched Earth 😛

[steep girder]

The dos tank game?

Oh my god I forgot about that

[white pawn]

yeah, the original developer has it for sale for choose your own price 🙂

figure, with all the pirating of full version i did over the years, tossin the guy some money was good karma

[steep girder]

Yeah it's a good thing

[echo canopy]

at half the vertical resolution per eye.

[white pawn]

I've been slowly trying to buy all of the shareware games i loved as a kid. leads to some interesting rabbit holes on the net 🙂

[carmine stirrup]

that sounds really fun tbh

[echo canopy]

reddit being wrong as per usual Edit: literally saying something entirely different

[white pawn]

some of these pages are OLD. it's like looking thru a time machine to the "Internet that was" LOL

[gilded forge]

what tablet is that??

[jaunty compass]

Idk it's not mine

[steep girder]

True. If you alternated between two perspectives maybe every display sync you could save processing

But I feel like you don't do that if it's a physical 3d screen. For 3d vision n crap made sense

[echo canopy]

you can save processing between perspectives

[steep girder]

How much though?

Yeah it really gets into it https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22031256/glsl-rendering-multimple-passes-from-different-perspectives-at-the-same-time

Ultimately depends on gpu I feel

Or code honestly. If you're using BSP vis for instance, you probably don't care about the offset between two eyes

vis already efficient though. Bin tree lookup from precompiled geometry :P

We're rabbit holing too much into this now

Let metroid prime hunter devs worry about it

[echo canopy]

point is youre not literally rendering the whole scene twice and the two images are half the non 3D resolution

3d still does have a minor effect on battery tho

[steep girder]

Fair enough

[steep girder]

Try lands of lore III or IV it was. That one was cool if you ever played it. Was win 95 era or something

Still haven't gotten it running. I tried a few years ago

With wine I think. Collectible-wise cool box and like 4 cool lookin CDs

(had to swap when you entered different areas)

Ye https://www.ebay.com/itm/194967791043?epid=1600292844&hash=item2d64fc65c3:g:HeoAAOSwU4JiUhuy&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4Fe7r36m2I5f3gYwxQ2CyZph9t8l%2BL7MIRvj39JASMbsxLSBjGheyxromrBdYyiynic4ohy3vt%2FfzFh0MzrCE0EWDDiH%2B%2BH4Fm8l8tiBscf6LiO8t334OwzKU8dotpHoL9U14XNk3No1QGbdWmQvbfsMBfERc0ya4SVxVEdtkcf4kq9NaiPZgK6Gk%2BB9h2qCcQJ4cJuhQd2ot9kTq9Vd8T7FQUr36sNDdOGm1NVdhxn82LNcUVhtAbWdWCTf0rIqPjdCN0GjvfF11OkxWtR0YsEx8yBs%2BgsjX19DSXs%2B9vfj|tkp%3ABFBM-pCk9YJj

98 era

Also westwood is dead so no bethsoft slinging doom boxes on this one :P

[white pawn]

LOL

oh, i used to love these type of RPGs. I was a major Might and Magic fan 🙂 never did get used to the jrpg menu fighting style

well, maybe used isn't the right word. enjoyed would be better. menu fighting always has a supreme moveset that trumps everything, for me that gets boring in fights

[steep girder]

Right might and magic too that was cool

This one is real time not turn-based

Like fps style crossbow. But the bolts looked like applejacks or something I remember

Misleading as a kid. Made me think crossbows shoot like shurikens for a while

[dusky matrix]

chatting with apple support is painful

[white pawn]

yeah, i was a bit confusing there, i liked the real time combat of games like these, not the turn based of jrpgs, is what i shoulda said 🙂

[white pawn]

some of the early first person stuff had some hilarious methods of showing things 🙂

[torn dirge]

anyone know a webdev who works with wordpress? I need a new page added to my website

[chrome vector]

Can someone confirm or deny this tech tip?

[prime solstice]

They forgot to add you have to add water to it so I can grow to be a 32 gb stick

[chrome vector]

It's so hard to find watercoolers for ram nowadays. It's almost as if the tech industry doesn't want out PC's to grow big and strong. It's a conspiracy.

[fierce moth]

We need a tinfoil hat emoji

[prime solstice]

Yeah how else am I supposed to get more ram now

[white pawn]

they don't want you to know that if you soak your ram in water, it increases in capactiy 🙂

[steep girder]

Installare memoriem

He got the declension and conjugation of install wrong

So did i probably though

Memoria

Memoriam

https://latin.cactus2000.de/noun/shownoun_en.php?n=memoria

Wait so in memoriam the object is accusative. Wtf

[white pawn]

and people wonder why latin is a dead language 🙂

[steep girder]

It made sense to me that in would make it dative

Nah it's actually awesome though

English had it. Gift hin him

Or gift him hin. The hin gets gifted; the him is always who receives the gift

Word order doesn't change it and you don't even need the prepositions

Like to, hereto, hereuntoforthwithin, etc

Simple letter change at the end. It was hacks

[fierce moth]

Latin is cool

I know how to sing one winged angel

Although an entirely useless skill

[chrome vector]

It's easier to just download more ram

[shrewd prairie]

is this a good pc?

[steep girder]

Probably. Unless you're in the vatican. 'Vulgar' latin is the official language there

It's only 'vulgar' with respect to classical roman latin

I think Italic was kinda separate and had influence on what the speak in Vatican. There were parallel different latins around Rome already. It wasn't exactly one language. All forms of language from the past are dead :P

I mean people refuse to use whom these days :P 1970 English is a dead language

[white pawn]

oh, no, downloading ram is soooo gauche! 🙂

[white pawn]

it definitely bugs me that the definition of literally has been changed to mean not literally 😛

[lilac bear]

literally is usually just used in exaggeration

which I think stems from how it previously used to be a serious word

[cerulean jay]

sup

im new here

what should i do?

[steep girder]

Right yeah lol. I'm guilty too. I complained this very same thing myself before... yet I just did it subconsciously

What's worse is when people use it in the place of 'actual'

That guy is a literal whatever

So... you can read him?

[white pawn]

yeah, the issue i have with it is, we have increased the number of exaggeration words, while reducing the specific words down to basically one

[lilac bear]

for real

[white pawn]

in essence, we are making the language less precise, which makes it harder to communicate, since vagueness breeds misunderstanding

which wouldn't be a problem if we just removed all modifiers of this type, but that would make the language far too (sadly the actual word here to use is:) literal, with no room for any ambiguity

personally, i would hate to have to start talking either like a lawyer or a computer 😛

[shell wyvern]

i have a question about gamepass

[chrome vector]

Okay, this is completely unrelated to, well, everything. But I need to ask some random people this. Are ANY of you actually able to remember the difference between, and when to use effect vs affect? I swear, it doesn't matter how many times I look it up, I always have to look it up again when I'm typing something and need to use one of them.

[chrome vector]

Yeah?

[shell wyvern]

If i had fh5 on gamepass and have quite the progress made and then i canceled gamepass
if i resub will my progress stay?

[graceful burrow]

ye

[shell wyvern]

good what do i do if i dont find my progress?

[lilac bear]

sue Microsoft

[chrome vector]

Yeah as far as I know it stays. I've never had it disappear. Even when using gamepass on Xbox vs Cloud on my phone. The only thing I've had is my mods get messed up in Skyrim, but that's it. I don't know if it always stays or how that works.

[spice pine]

back in my day we had to pay extra for cloud synced save games on Xbox platforms!

[errant mesa]

Morning everyone

[white pawn]

yup, you only lose access to the game, your saves will stay tied to your account regardless

[white pawn]

mostly just wait, it may take a bit to sync depending on game

[errant mesa]

Cloud Saves are such a OP thing we have

[shell wyvern]

OP when it comes to xbox
not crap EA and steam linking

[errant mesa]

well steam aswell for me, just being able to download a game on a fresh PC etc. and have everything save related there...it's awesome

gone are the days of hol up lemme get my 16MB Memory Card

[shell wyvern]

lost star wars battlefront 2

[errant mesa]

that steam or EA

[shell wyvern]

EA account with my long gone email address

before EA app

origin pc crap

[lilac bear]

EA moment

[errant mesa]

EA have meeting about how to make the worst experience for customers

[shell wyvern]

support team was a pain in the bum

idk if i can say as$ or $hit here

[errant mesa]

check our #rules?

[shell wyvern]

uno momento i forgot them

[errant mesa]

same. seems okay just not allowed to be rude etc.

[shell wyvern]

ye

[errant mesa]

i need something to fascinate with ;-;

something i can adhd fixate on for a day

[shell wyvern]

a stapler

[errant mesa]

im not there is enough infomation to research about the stappler

[shell wyvern]

its history

[errant mesa]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stapler

In 1841 Slocum and Jillion invented a "Machine for Sticking Pins into Paper"

Now we know.

[shell wyvern]

white noise and how it affects brain chemisrty

[errant mesa]

something more interesting

can we pause christmas real quick,. still need to get presents

[shell wyvern]

how fish can be cannibals and how seals like the smell of ice

[errant mesa]

something that is a topic as whole per sae.

[shell wyvern]

does all water taste the same?

[errant mesa]

that sounds simple

all water will taste the same, unless it doesn't because of its contents

https://www.audible.com.au/pd/Atomic-Awakening-Audiobook/B00FO3EEPA

this is one that i recently did (again)

[shell wyvern]

r/showerthoughts sort by new

[errant mesa]

hmmm

it's all boring

[shell wyvern]

top of all time

[errant mesa]

"When you're a kid, you don't realize you're also watching your mom and dad grow up."

insert Mather Mconuhey smoking gif here

yes i spelt that wrong. badly.

[vapid cypress]

I always realized that and I cried at some point when I was a kid about it

[errant mesa]

time is what made me cry... realizing i was growing up, and everything that happend in child hood, meant more and meant less..

and how much of an idiot i was as a kid

[vapid cypress]

I just wanted best for my parents back then I felt like they were meant to be immortal

[errant mesa]

yeah, same. that was something i always did, was put my parents before myself lol

[vapid cypress]

Well everything changed when puberty hit lol

[errant mesa]

they are immortal....don't tell me otherwose 😨

[errant mesa]

Yeeep

[vapid cypress]

otherwose

[errant mesa]

although a lot of those years got lost for me. a lot of memory loss from seizures.

[errant mesa]

damn my spelling is really bad today

need to restart my brain, microsoft could you do that and update me please.

[vapid cypress]

It's just a real silly word

[vapid cypress]

Mm that sounds terrible

[errant mesa]

Yeah, focal seizure ~ long story short, made me not only question reality and meaning, but proved it to me...

[vapid cypress]

The brain is an interesting thing

[errant mesa]

Yes, it is, one thing that has always made me laugh is when people talk about deja vu and made it out that its proof etc..all your brain has to do is go. yeah bro this happened to you.

[errant mesa]

too many parts of it are understood now...and the internet takes advantage of that.

[vapid cypress]

Oh you mean tampering with your memories?

[errant mesa]

Yeah, among other things, mis information, just how people think and get answers and take information, everything of the such

[errant mesa]

that's also what the seizures did...made time feel very diffirent

[vapid cypress]

Yeah we are trying to move way to fast conclusions

I kinda get weird deja vu moments as if I will die that moment and I'm just remembering it because I died before

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/toast-space-cat-laser-gif-7817737

[vapid cypress]

Idk how to describe it

[vapid cypress]

That's the problem when you have too many people connect at once there is so much information and it's hard to tell which is correct

[chrome vector]

That cat is a war criminal 🍞

[harsh quartz]

The survivors make the rules

[chrome vector]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-remilia-scarlet-scarletfumo-a-little-bit-of-trolling-gif-21058860

[errant mesa]

Yeah I get ha.

[harsh quartz]

No bread left to accuse the cat of a crime

[errant mesa]

Yeah, and people play on it.

[chrome vector]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-war-crimes-commited-help-me-fear-gif-22404347

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/inevitable-mad-uranium-isotopes-bruins-gif-14239863

[pliant karma]

bread wars 🙂

[vapid cypress]

He is too cute, I forgive him

[sterile rivet]

Free crack?!?

[errant mesa]

he is forgiven, they probably had it comming.,

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-sandwich-cats-sandwich-gif-26112528

[vapid cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-burger-burger-cat-cat-burger-gif-25078813

[steep girder]

Lol the face that last cat is making

Not amused

[errant mesa]

cats are the cutest and most dangerous thing on the planet

look at my cats on #pets

[steep girder]

Archaeologists do say that when cats made a comeback, our primate population seemed to coincidentally go back down

In south america

They were like sabretooth tho

[errant mesa]

they are the true rulers of the world, but all that want is for us to take care of them and to be dicks.

[ionic abyss]

How bad is the 33cent aliexpress 500 in one console snes/nes/genesis

Lol how can they sell it that cheap

[errant mesa]

If it’s too good to be true, it probably is.

[fossil frost]

the PCB that they mount the ASIC/FPGA would cost more than that... and the ASIC/FPGA would certainly cost FAR more than that

[jaunty compass]

It only does NES I'm sure

Famiclones are incredibly cheap to make

And it's probably not really just 33¢ unless they're desperate to clear inventory

[ionic abyss]

OK just saw a outemu red switch 65% keyboard on aliexpress for under $2

[jaunty compass]

Is this your first time shopping on AliExpress or something

If it is you probably have a first time discount

[fallen rover]

haha that new microwave guy on the team is funny

[jaunty tusk]

can someone help me i have a b450 tomahawk and want to upgrade to 32gb ram is that fine

i have 16gb rn and the mmeory is always 50% and above when i check task manager

[ionic abyss]

I bought a shaving bursh

[crystal willow]

Good to hear

[crystal willow]

What type of ram do you have on the mobo?

like the brand and speed

DONT LEAVE ME HANGING

[harsh quartz]

Leave me hanging please

[jaunty tusk]

2x 8gb vengance ram

3200mz

i need to upgrade it

[crystal willow]

How does it get to 50% when nothing is open tho?

[jaunty tusk]

i have discord, opera open rn

and for some reason it says 50%

[crystal willow]

how many tabs on opera?\

[jaunty tusk]

2

the percentage doesnt even add up to 50%

when i add it all up on the task manager

[crystal willow]

which corsair vengence?

[crystal willow]

background tasks ig

.

[jaunty tusk]

LPX

do you know a cheap website for pc parts

[crystal willow]

Does the mobo have 4 ram slots?

[jaunty tusk]

yh

[crystal willow]

What country are you in?

[jaunty tusk]

uk

i was thinking of getting 4 LPX 8gb ram

but idk if that will make it better

i should just get 2 ram sticks of 16gb

it is cheaper for me to get another 2 more ram sticks of 8gb

[crystal willow]

Ye

There is a site called ebuyer

[white pawn]

the most vengeancey one

[jaunty tusk]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-VENGEANCE-3600MHz-Ryzen-Memory/dp/B082DH1FZR/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=ddr4+3600&linkCode=gg3&linkId=2af2005fd46b3b9e0ccafcb5ed8f29f0&qid=1701210938&s=electronics&sr=1-3

should i buy this or get another 2 x 8gb

[jaunty tusk]

thanks

[manic torrent]

yes

[indigo plume]

Next phone I'm getting will have headphone jack

[agile siren]

s9+ would like to have a word with you

[indigo plume]

I hate using usb c to 3.5 mm jack

[gilded quest]

Real

[rustic holly]

Real

[indigo plume]

And wireless ear buds are overpriced

[rustic holly]

Oh hi again.

[rustic holly]

Agreed.

[gilded quest]

Sadly the only phone with one I'd consider is Sony Xperia 1 line, but there's some things I'm not super sold on with their phones

[rustic holly]

Valid opinion.

[gilded quest]

I've heard mixed reports about their reliability on NA carriers

[indigo plume]

Wish Samsung didn't follow apple with no headphone jack

[rustic holly]

I may sacrifice the headphone jack because using Samsung A phones aren't the best tbh.

[gilded quest]

I did it years ago

[rustic holly]

Price wise they are great (A52 5g atm)

[rustic holly]

Same.

[gilded quest]

My solution was to carry AirPods pro on my belt

IDC if it makes me look like a mid 2000s dad

[indigo plume]

U have iPhone ?

[gilded quest]

Belt attached TWS buds are the best

[rustic holly]

I mean for the price i got this at. For a 120hz screen, 128gb of storage and a decent battery life I can't complain. Cameras freak out at night but at day they can do some good photos.

[gilded quest]

AirPods pro and pixel lmao

[rustic holly]

Got to be a nightmare

[indigo plume]

Airpods on android sounds like a pain

[rustic holly]

Agreed.

[gilded quest]

Absolutely
But at the time I was earbuds shopping, apple had the best ANC on the market

[indigo plume]

Id rather just Sony ear buds

[gilded quest]

*my ears are too small for the Sony WF1000 line

[rustic holly]

I would have stuck out on some other company.

[gilded quest]

The Sony physically hurt

[indigo plume]

I use link buds a

[gilded quest]

Didn't exist

[rustic holly]

Ah. The classic if it don't fit it sounds like sh--

[indigo plume]

Link buds s

[gilded quest]

Wasn't the sound
It was the ear pain

And they fell out

[rustic holly]

That's why it sounds bad.

[gilded quest]

I didn't even listen to them...

[rustic holly]

I have AKGs Y50s and I love them. However they are too small for my ears.

[gilded quest]

Well I did for like 10 minutes

But I couldn't get a fit

[indigo plume]

Anyone else switch off spotify recently

[gilded quest]

The WF1000XM4 are truly massive earbuds

[gilded quest]

Didn't exist when I was shopping

[rustic holly]

Well if your headphones don't think you ain't gonna have a great listening audio listening experience

[indigo plume]

Tragic

[gilded quest]

Truly

[indigo plume]

I have small ears and they fit pretty good

[rustic holly]

I just have £10 sony earphones with headphone jack and I stick it out

[gilded quest]

I just ordered geek squad refurbished pixel buds pro

[agile siren]

spotify && netflix. they just started not extending licences for my favourite stuff.

[gilded quest]

We shall see how that is

$65

[indigo plume]

I use YouTube music now

[rustic holly]

Not half bad

[spice pine]

Spotify sucks

[gilded quest]

I know the ANC is worse than first gen AirPods pro, but for $65 I might be okay with that

[indigo plume]

I'm tired of getting ads in podcasts when I pay for premium

[gilded quest]

I've been on YTM since 2018

[rustic holly]

I use that or just have the audio downloaded. Cba with the new audio phase.

[indigo plume]

Who the fking gives ads to premium members

[rustic holly]

Spotify clearly.

[gilded quest]

What kind of ads
Spotify dynamic ads, or host read sponsors?

[indigo plume]

I shouldn't get ads at all if I pay money monthly lol

[sudden bough]

😐

[rustic holly]

You pay and you don't even own the product.

[gilded quest]

I use pocket casts

[indigo plume]

It's like ads from a diff podcast to tell me to listen to their pod ast

[gilded quest]

Hmmm
Some podcasts sponsor other podcasts

[rustic holly]

I own music that I really enjoy. I hate when songs get removed or just taken offline.

[gilded quest]

Use a real podcast player

[agile siren]

you pay internet providers and dont own the internet. streaming is a service. getting a licence from published so you can listen to stuff is a service.

[indigo plume]

I just will use YouTube music for podcasts for now

[rustic holly]

Yh but what about purchasing tracks?

[agile siren]

those are like 1$ each. not 5$/mo unlimited streams

[gilded quest]

Damn only 40 days

[indigo plume]

I think they are prob sponsored by Spotify so they are pushing. There content

Their*

[rustic holly]

If you listen to 200 tracks and nothing else ever then it will add up some day. Also there is some royalty free stuff I listen to sometimes.

[agile siren]

and even then you buy a licence to listen to it. not rights to distribute itself.

[gilded quest]

Spotify owned shows shouldn't have ads with premium (imo)

[indigo plume]

Ur right

[rustic holly]

It's for my own personal listening.

[indigo plume]

So I'm canceling my Spotify

[gilded quest]

Podcasts that simply use Spotify as an additional distribution don't get anything from Spotify premium afaik

I hate Spotify

[indigo plume]

And switching to YouTube

[gilded quest]

They've ruined so podcasts

[rustic holly]

I don't use many sub based services

[gilded quest]

Gutted gimlet media 😭

[indigo plume]

Only issue I have with YouTube music is u can't sort songs by artists name and stuff

[rustic holly]

I don't watch movies, don't use Spotify premium, don't have yt premium either. I just buy when I need.

[indigo plume]

I use YouTube premium

[rustic holly]

Yh does suck smt

[gilded quest]

I use a subscription based podcast player, but I bought it when it was single purchase years ago so I'm grandfathered in for life

[agile siren]

I am buying albums directly from bands and attending live shows. if they feel like just throwing music on a spotify then i will just pirate it. It's not like streaming services pay artists a lot unless you go trending.

[rustic holly]

Lucky.

[indigo plume]

I don't mind YouTube premium

[gilded quest]

Lol $4 in 2016
Now it's like $9.99 a year I think

Yeah I love YT premium

YTM is my music service of choice anyways

[rustic holly]

They pay for how long you listen to a track over the month. I think?

[gilded quest]

The $10/month is far less than the value I receive from my YouTube subscription

[indigo plume]

Is there a way to sort alphabetically

[rustic holly]

So that £8 will be distributed for every creator you listened to and for how long?

[eager venture]

Public chat being active? Impossible

[gilded quest]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I mostly use algorithm based listening
So I'm not sure

[indigo plume]

I heard Netflix prices going up again

[rustic holly]

It do happen.

[rustic holly]

Thank god I don't watch movies.

[indigo plume]

Ehhh I usally use shuffle so it don't matter that much

[rustic holly]

£20 is a good stream games worth of entertainment.

[agile siren]

I don't think they divide up your 5$ by no of tracks you listen to and pay that per stream. Some tracks are paid more than others. Thats why spotify is pushing you into these dynamically adjusted lists where they try to serve you low cost per stream tracks.

[indigo plume]

Even if u do it's easy to pirate

[gilded quest]

Like this?

[rustic holly]

Sure. That do be an option.

If I can't find a movie anywhere it is a final resort.

[indigo plume]

Maybe I have to put it in my Library instead of in a playlist

[gilded quest]

Yes?

[indigo plume]

Cuz I only see recently added

[gilded quest]

I think

[rustic holly]

I hate the fact that you need to pay for like 3 streaming services to get your fav shows.

[gilded quest]

I don't uhhhh
I don't use playlists

[rustic holly]

I just gave up and don't watch anything

[gilded quest]

I only save to library

Making playlists sounds like way too much work

[agile siren]

licencing in small eastEU countries is impossible. Wanted to watch man vs wild recently. emailed discovery support and got told to import a second hand blu ray from autstralia...

[jaunty tusk]

bruh

[rustic holly]

Oh man. My yt watch later has been fully filled and I have like 3 playlists also maxed out. 🤣

[gilded quest]

I use watch later as a queue

[rustic holly]

Trust me it's almost as if they want you to do it.

[gilded quest]

However I've never made music playlists in music apps

[rustic holly]

The Max Playlist on yt is 5000

[indigo plume]

It's cuz I imported my Spotify playlist

[rustic holly]

I just do it by likes.

[gilded quest]

I prefer "radio" style listening if that's what you would call it?

[agile siren]

yeah. got 16 TB drive, PIA vpn and started just hoarding

[rustic holly]

Man I haven't listened to the radio in ages. (5min of music and 1hr of ads).

[rustic holly]

It does feel like an hour.

[gilded quest]

Lol I mean I pick a song and i let the algorithm queue up similar songs

[rustic holly]

Fair enough. I do that for nintendo ds games bc of how pointlessly expensive they are. Nintendo doesn't even profit off it anymore.

[gilded quest]

Not music with ads lmao

[rustic holly]

Ah.

[agile siren]

I like radios. especially at my workdesk.

[rustic holly]

I understand google drive and such being sub based services in a way.

[gilded quest]

Like this

[rustic holly]

Oh yh.

[gilded quest]

Or I just use the supermix

[rustic holly]

But I bet it would be cheaper to get a 1tb portable ssd

[gilded quest]

Convenience

[rustic holly]

My Internet is way too trash for those.

[rustic holly]

Bro I got 567ms ping to my closest server somehow.

[gilded quest]

Bro living in Atlantis

[agile siren]

island boy

[gilded quest]

The closest servers are down the street

[rustic holly]

I got all 5 icons on rocket league.

[rustic holly]

And also 990ms ping

Best part must be when I tried downloading a 29.2 mb file. It was downloading a mind bending speed of 2B/s.

Yes that's possible somehow!

[rustic holly]

Dial up seems speedy.

[manic torrent]

"in a way"??

[rustic holly]

Yh servers produce tons of heat and they take security out of your hands I guess.

[manic torrent]

.... You guess. Like wtf dude. It's literally a service. You pay for the service. It's not "in a way" or "I guess".

[rustic holly]

I still feel like owning a physical drive is better but for an average user i guess 🤷‍♂️

[agile siren]

physical drives get damaged. rip them all and seed it

[rustic holly]

I was talking in a comparison way.

[manic torrent]

Owning a physical drive is not the same thing.

[rustic holly]

Guess so.

[agile siren]

or at least have a backup somewhere.

[rustic holly]

Yes I do realise. I do understand that a cloud storage drive is quite handy for backing up.

[manic torrent]

.... And so you sit in front of the same computer in the same place, 24/7

[agile siren]

not really. get large capacity HDD and use that

[gilded quest]

Or you should probably have both

[agile siren]

and rewrite the data every 5 years so they dont corrupt

[jaunty tusk]

is it possible to put 2 8gb ram sticks with 2 16gb ram sticks they all from the same make and run at he same speed

will my oc blow up

[agile siren]

speed yes, channel no

[jaunty tusk]

pc

[jaunty tusk]

wdym channel ?

tv

[manic torrent]

Not recommended.

[rustic holly]

I only have 2 devices. Its not that hard for me to move a removable hard drive into another machine. Also I do most my work on one. Also like I said, for my case (especially with my bad internet) it's better for me.

[gilded quest]

They'll run but the other 8gb on the 16gb sticks will be half bandwidth
Also more sticks can put more strain on your memory controller, which may require lowering speeds and/or loosening timings

[jaunty tusk]

aight ill just take the 2 8gb ram sticks out

[jaunty tusk]

thanks

[manic torrent]

Yes, that's a very specific use case. But you also have a phone, I am sure of it.

[jaunty tusk]

that sounds like too much work

[rustic holly]

Usbc to usba adaptor.

[manic torrent]

Wtf?

[rustic holly]

I have one on hand always.

[rustic holly]

Bc of new laptop being usb c only

[manic torrent]

Plug a hard drive into your phone? That is the jankiest shit I have ever heard

[rustic holly]

File explorers on phones exist.

[manic torrent]

I didn't say it couldn't work

It's just absolutely insane.

[rustic holly]

I just find it easier.

[gilded quest]

Ya know

[manic torrent]

If only there existed ways to share files on networks

[gilded quest]

Most people use Google drive for tiny word and presentation documents

[rustic holly]

My Internet is in the Bytes/seconds. Idk when gdrive will be useful for me

[gilded quest]

Usually they can get by on the free amount of storage anyways

[rustic holly]

2mins of my time to download and move it onto the drive lol.

[gilded quest]

Rip your internet but you're a special case then

[rustic holly]

I do.

[rustic holly]

I mean I'm on mobile data in my own house rn

[manic torrent]

Starlink exists

[rustic holly]

I AM USING STARLINK. UK coverage is absolute crap.

[gilded quest]

Have you tried living in a first world country?

[manic torrent]

Sounds like a skill issue

[rustic holly]

It is.

I mean it kicks itself off every 10-30min for an hour or so.

[agile siren]

lmao. I was pulling symmetrical 160 Mbit on Tmobile 4G network in moravia

[rustic holly]

And when it works its abysmal.

[rustic holly]

I got scammed by the Musk Internet

[rustic holly]

I live in a Faraday cage then. 🤷‍♂️

I can prove my point tho.

[agile siren]

yeah. shooting signal to orbit, between satelites and back down is slower than connecting to a tower on a nearby hill

[rustic holly]

I guess but even then, 2bytes per second...

[manic torrent]

You know the dish needs to go outside

[rustic holly]

Yes it is outside.

It's unobstructed

[rustic holly]

🤣

I don't think it would even do anything indoors.

Idk maybe it's just me being unlucky with it

Every isp is giving me bad speeds.

[agile siren]

do you have dsl link wired to your house?

[rustic holly]

Unsure.

[agile siren]

so all of them used over the air?

[rustic holly]

Today I got 7mb download speed tho.

[gilded quest]

Lmao

[rustic holly]

Oh no, this is the only one.

Virgin media just gave me constant downtime.

[rustic holly]

Days worth of downtime.

[gilded quest]

Get fibre mate

[agile siren]

he would need to pay for it

[rustic holly]

Its advertised as fibre.

[rustic holly]

Virgin was**

Starlink failed me so bad tho lol.

In #tech-chat-1 I'll upload proof if anyone needs to see it.

[manic torrent]

do you live in a deep dark forest?

[rustic holly]

Probably.

Just my Internet lol

[manic torrent]

legit there might actually be some sort of magnetic or whatever anomaly near you

[rustic holly]

No. Nothing.

Both locations I can go to suck.

[white pawn]

maybe you are the magnetic anomaly? 🙂

[rustic holly]

Lol

Why can't Internet be stable yet?

How do I get fibre that's slower than copper.

[white pawn]

internet hasn't even barned yet, and you want it to stable? 🙂

[rustic holly]

Bro at least give me 10mb

[white pawn]

i hare ya on that

[harsh quartz]

That ain’t fibre that’s fiber, some cup and string shit

[rustic holly]

Bet I could get a better connection with dial up.

[formal hull]

if im gonna show my specs here im gonna get the hate that no one else got in a century i swear :||

[rustic holly]

I heard starlink is £100/ month

[white pawn]

i can just imagine two people yelling into cups on either side of the string "eeee awwwww ee awww aww eee ooooo"(trying to make dialup noises)

[harsh quartz]

I mean, probably, but Tbf the original fibre lines were only meant for like 1.5mb cause they were “average bandwidth high reliability”

[rustic holly]

/:

Oh yh disconnected

Sorry I'm back

[white pawn]

I doubt it, you shoulda seen the hate in the channel when i mentioned i refuse to buy AMD LOL

[harsh quartz]

Tbf that’s fairly dented

[rustic holly]

New fibre cabling.

So idk what they messed up.

I'm going to sleep. Midnight where I live and the Internet became very unstable.

[white pawn]

not really. I'm not trying to convince anyone else not to, just that i won't

[harsh quartz]

Get better timezones

[rustic holly]

My Internet shuts off at midnight half the time.

Before I go.

[white pawn]

i had internet like that at one point, that sucked

[rustic holly]

I broke my screen Time somehow

[rustic holly]

Truest nightmare

[agile siren]

i wouldnt recommend radeon to my family either. being bothered about "why no cuda" "why pc crash" isnt smt i wanna deal with

[white pawn]

hey, watch out, you're liable to be shunned for not wanting to buy something 😛

[harsh quartz]

What Radeon you runnin on?

[agile siren]

5700xt

[harsh quartz]

Your reasons were why we called you out, not the fact that you just won’t do it

[harsh quartz]

and your pc crashes frequently?

[white pawn]

you want the full reason? i can give em to ya. i BARELY scratched the surface before

[harsh quartz]

It really doesn’t matter, I used to work at DG and hated it, but I still shop there :p

[white pawn]

see, when you're under federal indictment for corporate espionage, they take your house, your bank accounts, your car, because you aren't allowed to have any possible proceeds of crime

[agile siren]

whenever I alttab in horizon zero dawn, whenever I pause handbrake video render, whenever I change color maping in adrenalin SW, whenever I dont cleaninstall new drivers... been happening on 2 separate systems and 2 versions of windows. I can deal with it and enjoy the +20% fps(compared to nvidia alternative for the price) but my family can't.

[harsh quartz]

And that means the product shouldn’t be bought because?

[white pawn]

so when my 5 year old daughter had no home, because our familes literally turned us away because i "must be a criminal, they wouldn't have accused you otherwise!" yeah, im gonna be mad at the company who accused us all falsely, never admitted they did until they were absolutely forced too, and still to this day refuse to unblacklist people from the industry they made a living in, yeah, im not gonna deal with that company

[manic torrent]

yeah man, my family regularly asks me about CUDA

[agile siren]

"I want the funny voice bro" why cant i use funny voice

[harsh quartz]

Still makes a good product tho

[white pawn]

and you can go buy em

i simply never will

aspparently tho, you can't handle that, along with the others that piled on, because everyone has to love AMD no matter what

[harsh quartz]

No, I can, I don’t give a shot what you buy, I’m just saying the reasoning is dumb

[manic torrent]

that's 100% awful, but the true issue here is capitalism. I assure you nvidia and intel have done the same thing

[harsh quartz]

You also keep getting upset about this but your the one that keeps bringing it up :p

[manic torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/eventually-capitalism-capitalism-happened-life-future-gif-15506742

[white pawn]

i'm not upset

[cinder wing]

Not sure if this a good place to ask. How do i find out what chair fits me??? I need a new chair cuz this ikea chair of 50 euros broke after 12 years of use... Now i need a new one. I want a soft butt 😦 this new chair hurts my butt

[harsh quartz]

X to doubt

[agile siren]

If you were happy with it then get another 50€ ikea chair

[manic torrent]

find someone who is your body shape that sits in chairs, or read/watch reviews or test

[agile siren]

Thats what I have

[harsh quartz]

Chair size is weird, just always buy the biggest and you’ll be able to eat bread forever and not outgrow the chair

[manic torrent]

Hilariously, the chairs in my office are ok, but the chairs in the open area are different chairs, and the armrests literally touch my hip bones

[agile siren]

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/flintan-office-chair-black-90489029/ this is what I sit on

[harsh quartz]

I will never understand the idea of “office chairs need to be uncomfortable to make people productive”

Na gimme a comfy chair and I’ll sit there workin all day

[cinder wing]

I want a chair with backrest that goes far back, and high/low adjustable. Just very flexible chair. and very soft butt foam thing. :c

So gaming chair would be the better term for it no? rather than a office chair..

And i looking for quality over looks.

[harsh quartz]

Cool, ever heard of google or Amazon?

[agile siren]

dont really try to save a buck. I found out you get what you pay for.. the hard way.

[dusky jacinth]

This is literally false too. Like... I know it's weird thing I'd ever bring up for personal bias reasons, but apparently pre-X Twitter employees and mods had better office chairs tailored just for them and they were able to do their work (shocker, apparently) better than without.

[white pawn]

you want a herman miller chair.

[harsh quartz]

What the fuck are you talking about

[white pawn]

theres a reason that used ones go for nearly as much as new

[agile siren]

you know you've made it when you get a chair tailored to your bum

[dusky jacinth]

It's an actual thing I didn't even know about Twitter's workforce until I heard about it after Elon took over... After failing to try backpedal out of the deal.

[white pawn]

apparently that was a big deal with ferraris back in the day, they did custom molded seats for the drivers, so if you bought/buy a used ferarri of the right age, the car is SUPREMELY uncomfortable till you spend a ridiculous amount of money on a new seat

[dusky jacinth]

Wasn't just Ferrari either. Lol.

[harsh quartz]

So, they were better workers when comfortable, kinda like I already said

[dusky jacinth]

Yep.

[white pawn]

yeah, i wanna say lambo did this too, but i couldn't remember offhand

[agile siren]

bum shaped seat is better lock in than apple ecosystem

[dusky jacinth]

Mclaren did this actually, and Saleen even did something similar that moreso involved the seat and pedal box placement.

[white pawn]

closest i've ever gotten to a custom chair was an 80s century station wagon we had, the prvious owner was a delivery driver, and had literally sat in the drivers seat so long it molded to him. I'm 6 feet even with fairly broad shoulders, this dude was all of 5 feet with like, half my shoulders 😛