public-chat

[wispy marsh]

Did they wipe his chat or did he?

[steep girder]

Wait my chat got wiped?

[wispy marsh]

Mate's still here from what I see

[steep girder]

Anyways joke delivered go back to whatever

[wispy marsh]

I don't wanna sleep

It's 2:05am and I'm kinda winding down from all the sql i've been doing the last few hours

[wispy gale]

SQL is a helluva drug

[wispy marsh]

Nah, just for a school project

[wispy gale]

That's how it starts.

[wispy marsh]

I'm still struggling with constraints, triggers and foreign keys

I haven't touched procedures/functions and views yet. They might pop up in the later tasks in this project.

[wispy gale]

@wispy marsh as someone who has done SQL professionally for far more than a decade, here's my best advice I can give you. If you're having difficulty understanding the material, find a YouTube video that explains it differently. Getting a different point of view or a different way of explaining it could be all that's keeping you from grocking.

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with having a topic broken down Barney style. I've been learning Godot, and I need a broken down all the way for me. Lol

[wispy marsh]

I'm not touching SQL or Python for a good while after I'm done with my classes. I've got a Tik router to configure, a steam backlog to clear, Phantom Liberty and a fancy "new" quest 2.

Oh dear. I need to do laundry and garbage for the week.

[wispy gale]

I gotta head out though. Take care and good luck!

[wispy marsh]

Tomorrow

Cya!

[urban thistle]

Unpopular opinion, you should always have motion blur on for racing games

@graceful burrow the sense of speed with it on is so much greater it just generally makes you feel like you’re actually going that speed

[graceful burrow]

(I don't care)

[lilac bear]

let it remain unpopular

[last solstice]

yo guys

any good laptop recommendations

for playing games ofc, I already know macbook is best

[lilac bear]

Lenovo Legion

depends on budget

I could just say "get the Razer laptop with the 4090"

but that costs 5 grand

[vapid zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[polar fern]

Yall need to stop being rude to other discord users. It’s not ok.

[bright plume]

[polar fern]

You know who you are. 😐

[past crow]

Mfrs will get a job at best buy or microcenter
..and realize they have to actually have a tolerance for people who don't know anything about tech

[full fossil]

leftover thanksgiving food is so bomb

[eager notch]

How can dbrand sue when there are no real people at dbrand?

[lilac bear]

IT sounds cool to tech illiterates but once you know about tech it is hell

[velvet root]

my job in college was it for the campus, especially dealing with the legal stuff

boy did that make me want to drink even more

[vapid zephyr]

Call mods then, whining isn't gonna get people to listen to you

[heavy swan]

battlefield V or 2042?

[old yacht]

Battlefield 1, I know that wasnt an option, but that one

[heavy swan]

still got multiplayer?

[old yacht]

oh for sure

[heavy swan]

gotta look it up on steam

4 euros, not bad

ill look into it, thanks

[heavy swan]

ah, and I also saw battlefield V was loosing support. is that confirmed?

[graceful burrow]

No lmao

[gentle slate]

neither. Battlebit

[old yacht]

Correct answer

[gilded quest]

2042 is like $10 rn

I should get it

[heavy swan]

yeah i know, thats why I was asking

[gilded quest]

Uhhh

[heavy swan]

want to make the most of this steam sale

[gilded quest]

Idk if I can even play it reasonably

It should work on arc

[heavy swan]

i've seen so many people with the arc gpu, is there a specific reason to why you got it?

the ammount of people complaining about it as well

[graceful burrow]

It's fun and unique

[heavy swan]

ah alright

[graceful burrow]

The people complaining are just people who didn't know what they're actually buying

I enjoyed my a380 when I had it, I want another one

[bright silo]

Battlebit: I hear them in the trees!

[pliant karma]

or not using it's full potential too :). My school has one in the tv studio server for encoding

[graceful burrow]

Smart buy

[pliant karma]

i encouraged the chairman aka my prof to get it

and it got approved on the budget

[rustic holly]

Today deserves : 🍞

[narrow delta]

whats a good ergonomic chair that is 200-300 dollars

[gilded quest]

Used office chairs

[bright silo]

https://www.staples.com/union-scale-flexfit-dexley-ergonomic-mesh-swivel-task-chair-black-un56946/product_24398921

[empty pollen]

Lol, enjoyed the Taobao vid, I daily drive a machinist with a xeon X5650. Its actually suprising how much support there is out there.

[dull tapir]

if you are short i would suggest uvi focus

if not ikea marcus is really good

[narrow delta]

im 5'6 rn but im gonna be like 5'11 once im max height

[dull tapir]

i am 5'7 and it is perfect for me

also mesh so it breathes

well you should buy chair that currently suits you

otherwise you fuck your back

[narrow delta]

alr

[dull tapir]

racing chairs are pretty bad

i was searching a long time for affordable chair

that is actually decent

[narrow delta]

i got one at staples in like 2018 for like $100 and i still use it

its never made my back feel bad

[dull tapir]

i used to use kitchen chairs

[empty pollen]

when just mindlessly searching its way better to put in executive office chair or office task chair. Gamer stuff typically is rated for like two hours.

[white pawn]

alternately, you could go to a junkyard and get a car seat from a car that you find comfortable and mount it to a wheeled base 😛

[mental kayak]

well that's one way to do it

[white pawn]

better than a lot of these so called gaming chairs that are just shitty copies of car seats 😛

[vapid cypress]

In the end if it doesn't break your back while doing it works

[gilded quest]

If you live in an area with a reasonable amount of office space, definitely try to get a used office chair
Steel case or Herman Miller

[compact dock]

Hello

somebody can help me with TrueNasScale here please ?

[narrow delta]

i would get a herman miller if every chair they sold wasnt over 1000$ (ik some are on sale rn)

and every steelcase chair is like $600

[gilded quest]

Hence why I said used
A lot of offices replace this type of equipment on a regular schedule

[patent pelican]

What are tips for a first time pc owner?

[zinc oracle]

Remember to plug it in before turning it on

Also don't forget to fill up the blinker fluid

[sudden drift]

Keep it off the floor, especially if you have carpet

[sudden shale]

Skyrim stealth archer gameplay is somewhat fun wtf

[orchid garnet]

Ofc. Can't forget the rgb juice

[zinc oracle]

Or the fan jelly

[orchid garnet]

Thats how it lights up

[white pawn]

ehh, they aren;t that much heavier than gaming chairs like Noble or other decent ones

[orchid garnet]

Oh yes! Can't forget that

I can't give any advice. I just built my first one recently. Turned out well but I'm not experienced

[white pawn]

that first post will take longer than you think, be patient. Most problems are usually resolved with either restarting the system, or reseating a component. Unless it's smoking or on fire, there is no reason to panic about anything that may go wrong; It will just make fixing it take longer.

[orchid garnet]

^good advice

[white pawn]

once ya have it booted, avoid using any redundant software. I know it's cool to hate on default software, but sometimes, less is more

(I used to laugh at the guys who installed winamp with 20 mods or so and then their system was unstable as hell and kept crashing cause winamp was just prettier than WMP, and way worse in coding)

Altho, with that said, Everything is a great search replacement for the awful one in Win10 and 11

[orchid garnet]

Although if your default software legitimately doesn't work its fine to try alternatives. I'm using SignalRGB bc my Mobo's RGB program is hot trash

[white pawn]

Oh, and Display fusion does nothing anymore that windows11 doesn't for multiple monitors/taskbar 🙂

Yeah @orchid garnet is definitely right. if it doesnt work, replace it, but check first (and don't install Armoury Crate! it's a constant source of crashing)

oh! OS, Then updates, ALL of them. check it after every reboot. Then drivers, reboot after every one if possible and update them all, only then install software like games, work programs, etc. Your system will be a LOT more stable

[orchid garnet]

^^^

[sudden shale]

My friends laugh at me for disliking the shooter genre and preferring RPG games... Maybe it's time I get better friends (joke, I love my friends)

[spice pine]

(not a joke) you should get better friends

[lilac bear]

your friends probably make bad financial decisions

(joke)

[indigo plume]

looking to get the lenovo go

[sudden shale]

Y'know the reason I absolutely love RPG games is that every run can have a different turn. Shooter games are just too repetitive. Shooter RPGs I can tolerate, especially if it has third person in it. But tbh don't get me wrong, I play shooter games a lot still, mostly the campaigns of older games since their story and setting just hits more with me

[manic torrent]

let me know when windows adjusts background images for DPI (by which I mean a single image across multiple monitors with different scaling)

and interfaces with APIs for backgrounds, and has named changeable monitor configurations and background configurations

oh, and has monitor dimming

[ionic abyss]

to quote linus "device manager crap"

note top self dont bump poorly plugged in monitor power cable

[full fossil]

hi

[hazy parrot]

oh my god someone else actually mentions this GAH it grinds my gears. I hate having to run wallpaper engine for something actually symetrical

windows absolute neglect of this is why a samsung G9 is viable

ok monitor dimming? Twinkle tray is pretty good

but it should be native anyway smh

[manic torrent]

I used to use a seperate piece of software, but I've been running display fusion for over a decade, once I realised it had that function as well, I stopped using the seperate utility

[hazy parrot]

mmm, looks like not much hasnt changed over the past years.

Its still quite the loaded program

[lilac bear]

wallpaper engine existing is proof Microsoft is lazy /j

[graceful burrow]

Windows xp supported using .gif files

[finite herald]

if an m.2 ssd is using a heat shield/spreader that's under the PCIE GPU slot, what should be the normal operating temperature of an idle m.2 ssd?
(I think we're all in agreement that 54C is BAD for an ssd at idle where its currently on the mobo)

[mild tulip]

Hey LTT bros, any of you ever have to machine wash your desk mats? Anyone know if they hold up or does it even work to get it clean?

[sudden bough]

No don’t

Wipe it off

I don’t need to know what you did to it. Just wipe it with a damp cloth

[shut lichen]

machine washing is an entirely accepted way of cleaning deskpads

[sudden bough]

The rubber backing may come lose

[thin echo]

I’m here to drop 2 nuclear fartastic bombs. 1) Ad blockers are piracy 2) YouTube has a right to defend itself from rAdIcAL ad-block militants (users)

[mild tulip]

i mean can i use a gentle detergent and the gentle cycle?

[mild tulip]

No

[sudden bough]

Do what you want but it’s possible it will fall apart

[drifting yacht]

If your pad is made from such materials as polyester, nylon, foam, or rubber, then it can be used in the washer. If your pad is made from different materials or has a custom design printed on it, using a washer could damage the material and the print. All pads, however, should avoid being placed in the dryer.```

https://www.vispronet.com/blog/how-to-clean-a-mousepad/#:~:text=If your pad is made,being placed in the dryer.

[mild tulip]

well the good news is its all stiched together, if we were talking about regular fabric-glued-to-rubber like my big Razer mat, sure I could see this

[drifting yacht]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBylHzreYEY

try this

[mild tulip]

and its all black, no other details

[thin echo]

If using Ad-Blockers is piracy… Call me Monkey D. Luffy

[mild tulip]

if pissing your pants is cool, call me miles davis

[lilac bear]

nuh uh

[manic torrent]

yes, shove it in the washing machine

[leaden gale]

That's a nice argument Senator, why don't you back it up with a source

[sudden bough]

Piracy isn’t theft

Can’t really stop it anyway

[soft swan]

Idk why people getting warning messages on YouTube about it, I got 0

[mental kayak]

do you have youtube premium

[soft swan]

Maybe it’s a skill issue

[soft swan]

No

I don’t have YouTube red either

Or it’s the same thing now ig

[mental kayak]

yea

[soft swan]

I use Firefox , maybe that’s why

[mental kayak]

if they really wanted to they could make a fool proof adblocker and just deny access to the content web source if they dont confirm the ad has played, but that would require more effort on their behalf

[soft swan]

Yea true, they just give you warnings if you do it for 3 ads or more now

[mental kayak]

never had that happen

i do use adblockers but i also pay for premium so i dont think that applies anyway since i wouldnt see the ads even without it

[harsh quartz]

Piracy is literally theft by definition

[sudden bough]

Doesn’t mean the definition is correct

[harsh quartz]

Your just wrong

[elfin jetty]

how did you get this far in life with your brain turned off?

[sudden bough]

Anyway. Sharing videos and music etc isn’t piracy and therefore not theft

[elfin jetty]

sharing with friends yea, sharing with everyone is another story

[sudden bough]

This argument has been made before yall decades ago

[harsh quartz]

If your sharing pirated content then yes it is is still piracy

[sudden bough]

It’s not stolen. It’s copied

[harsh quartz]

Yes, and the copyright law determined that piracy and sharing is theft

[sudden bough]

Yeah and they don’t bother with it anymore. All those people that were charged never paid

[harsh quartz]

Tell that to Gary bowser

[sudden bough]

Can look it up

There are a few documentaries. Either way you can’t do anything about it so don’t worry about it

[acoustic pond]

ah Gary Bowser, poor basterd got made a example of lmao

[sudden bough]

Don’t like it? Don’t do it.

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, he didn’t deserve it, but fuck around and find out I guess

[acoustic pond]

was it extreme yes, but he didnt technically break the law lol

dont fuck with nintendo

[harsh quartz]

He was in the wrong, but the courts fucked him over and that judge was in the wrong too

[acoustic pond]

it was just fucked all around, they know he cant pay that back, isnt he on disabilty too?

[harsh quartz]

Idk, but the courts never should’ve let it happen. But case and point, don’t fuck around with copyright law, because yes, it CAN be enforced

[acoustic pond]

totally, and if you do, dont let yourself get exposed lol

[manic torrent]

Nope

It's can be a crime, depending on what you're doing, but it ain't theft.

[sudden bough]

remember people were selling mix tapes before the internet

Some people would record from the radio directly and sell them

[graceful burrow]

Theft means the original person doesn't have it anymore

[sudden bough]

Yes

[manic torrent]

It's ok to admit you don't know shit about fuck

[harsh quartz]

It’s okay to not be an ass every once and a while, you can take the stick out from up there and no one would judge you

[manic torrent]

Also the crime is not receiving it. The crime is distributing it.

[lilac bear]

you're*

[manic torrent]

Maybe if you were not so publicly and loudly and confidently wrong.

[sudden bough]

[lean stream]

DON'T COPY THAT FLOPPY!!!

[remote hemlock]

My people!!! Assuming only 50 dollar difference should I get a 13700k instead of a 12900k? Is it worth the difference?

[sudden bough]

Oh yeah people used to copy programs all the time

[sudden bough]

Do it. It’s $50

[lilac bear]

do it

[manic torrent]

Not to mention that the modern crimes of distributing copyright materials are extremely modern (in terms of law). It was previously a tort.

[sudden bough]

DO IT

[harsh quartz]

To be clear, I never said which definition of piracy I was using. And there’s a reason that both definitions use the same word

[remote hemlock]

That's all I needed to hear lolololol

[sudden bough]

Piracy is defined as theft.

“Pirating media” is not theft

That would be like saying copying pages out of a book is theft

[manic torrent]

Literal piracy with ships, yes.

[sudden bough]

not really pirating anyway

People just call it that

[sudden shale]

I will always pirate my OS

OS is ridiculously overpriced imo

[manic torrent]

The irony is that a lot of ship piracy was really sanctioned/semi sanctioned military activity

[lilac bear]

given what people did in 2020 I think many people also think this

[sudden bough]

People have been copying pages before the copy machine

[manic torrent]

"I was only pretending"

[sudden bough]

All the same stuff different tech

[harsh quartz]

Is what I said wrong? By definition is piracy or is it not theft?

[lilac bear]

yeah but in 2020 people that made books or textbooks got furious about people using a PDF instead of taking out another loan for a book that'll become outdated in 8 months

[manic torrent]

Not copyright infringement or unlicensed software in the slightest.

[mental kayak]

theft is generally thought of in terms of property- probably defined as the unauthorized act of taking something without authorization with the intent to deprive the property owner

since the copyright holder still holds their property - it isn't "theft" by common definition i suppose

[manic torrent]

And by "generally though of", you mean "codified into law basically everywhere"

[manic torrent]

By the common and legal definition. So basically... Not at all.

[mental kayak]

right, but that is physical property. hence separate copyright and "piracy" laws which i am addmittedly not 100% privy to exactly

[manic torrent]

People also tend to conflate lots of issues together. Using unlicensed software is not copyright infringement. Distributing software can be copyright infringement.

[mental kayak]

i think it is just a civil matter for personal use

but yeah the bigger issue and when they start "caring" is when you are distributing it for profit or personal gain, or using it in commercial environments where you are using it tot turn a profit. now you are using it for personal gain

[full fossil]

Why can't people follow these simple rules:

If you use it for yourself, it's okay. Once you start making money, consider buying a license to 'thank' the developers.

If you distribute it and make money by doing so, you're an asshole.

[sharp cradle]

i just want adobe to be nice and be free

[full fossil]

When was the last time you use Adobe software?

[sharp cradle]

give me photoshop. or let me buy a lifetime license

[sharp cradle]

back when i had a free subscription i used photoshop, indesign, dreamweaver and acrobat often

[full fossil]

I only use Acrobat these days but thanks to my iPad I just use preview.

[acoustic pond]

a few hours ago?

[full fossil]

Not you.

[acoustic pond]

I havent touched dreamweaver in over 10 years now though lol

[sharp cradle]

like i get they need money, but this subscription stuff is ass, let me spend $800 for the whole suite

[acoustic pond]

I mainly do photoshop or illustrator now a days

[sharp cradle]

i was playing around and liked it, nice way to test websites locally

[harsh quartz]

but then you wont get all the new color palettes

[acoustic pond]

one could say in response to that is you get constant updates and new features but I get where you coming from, you dont own the sofyware anymore

[acoustic pond]

I remember using GoLive whne I had the CS2 suite lol

[sharp cradle]

now i do that with vs code and jkyll, but it was nice as an all in one

i own cs6, but adobe doesn't like to help me install it

[acoustic pond]

that was me a while back with CS2 lmao when they turned off the activation servers

[harsh quartz]

damn, we still playing CS2 and this dudes on CS6 already

[acoustic pond]

I finally got tired of jacking with pirated versions of it and just got on Creative Cloud on a student discount and only pay like 35 bucks a month

Their new AI intergration is really badass though, esspically in Illustrator, you just tell it what vector graphic you want and it makes it for you lol

[sharp cradle]

i think cs6 still has activation, finding the install is hard though

[harsh quartz]

i never knew how much enterprise stuff costed until recently, ive been introduced to the world of Microsoft licensing and holy shit its ridiculous

[acoustic pond]

oh yea its wild, examples being CAL licenses lol

[harsh quartz]

yeah, even with the 1 user liscense on something like MS access enterprise is 200$ a user

[acoustic pond]

yea CS2 activation servers have been offline for like 10 years now

[acoustic pond]

you should see licensing for MS SQL, shit wild

[lean stream]

That's because if someone is still using access they are completely trapped

[harsh quartz]

oh wait i meant sql not access, whoops

[acoustic pond]

who still uses access? some legacy bullshit?

[agile siren]

autocad is 2k$/year. was kinda suprised when I got a licence to use during my 2days/week part time job.

[lean stream]

Yes

People make that off AutoCAD in no time

[acoustic pond]

its wild how people way back in the day made a career just being a Exchange admin lol

[harsh quartz]

i had a company i was helping update their server recently, and they needed a new version of SQL and it took us hours just to figure out how to buy a fuckin non enterprise license for it cause MS makes it so ass backwards

[lean stream]

I was an exchange admin as part of my job for a couple years

We spend 8+ figures on m$ every year at work

[acoustic pond]

keyword was, in todays IT field you cant be a one trick pony anymore, corps want people who are multi able to do different things

[harsh quartz]

we just use 365 for everything, and the 365 admin portal is the biggest heap of dog i have ever seen in a required website

[manic torrent]

.... And they generally sucked

[acoustic pond]

Azure pretty nice though when setup properly and normally cheaper in some cases compared to AWS or GCP

[lean stream]

A few were decent, but we hated everyone

[harsh quartz]

tbf, a lot of those tricks are easier to do now, so you can do multiple in the same time span

[harsh quartz]

its nice for the end user but man the website just doesnt work half the time, or something is so buried in submenus and seperate portals you cant find anything

[acoustic pond]

I hate fucking email in general lol

[lean stream]

But if it breaks, you are SCREWED

[manic torrent]

Azure cheapness typically comes from licensing advantages, not actually being cost effective.

[acoustic pond]

ah you talking about that sharepoint site bullshit? lol

[lean stream]

I ran exchange and am the worst at keeping my inbox clean because I KNOW exchange can handle it

[harsh quartz]

the azure admin portals, or Entra i think its called now

[acoustic pond]

im still learning azure so im no expert but it is everywhere

[acoustic pond]

ah ok

[lean stream]

SharePoint is great if you have a team of SharePoint developers. Out of the box, use literally anything else

[agile siren]

do I understand it that it does softlocks you in the ecosystem with those licences?

[manic torrent]

Azure works fine, but it's a total disaster in terms of design. AWS was designed by engineers, so it makes some sense.

[acoustic pond]

I passed my AZ-900 exam, I really need to finish and get my AZ-104 so I have something to show lol

[manic torrent]

Yeah basically.

[timid patio]

Howdy

[acoustic pond]

I remember 10 years ago looking at the requirments to run sharepoint on perm and it was wild, iirc you needed at least 3 bare metal servers to do it, one runs ms sql, other front end of sharepoint, and one for compute

[lean stream]

Either people are going to go azure or Google for email, there is no third option

4 for SQL, HA DR always-on

[acoustic pond]

ive been with google workspace and im ready to switch away, tired of google doing bullshit

[lean stream]

Plus quorum

[manic torrent]

No, SharePoint is cursed. SharePoint list? SharePoint calendar? SharePoint table? All of these are SharePoint specific and there is no compatibility api

[lean stream]

It was bad

[acoustic pond]

mean Sharepoint admins do make bank though lol

[lean stream]

They have to deal with the most demanding people, more power to them

[manic torrent]

People who work on Microsoft products like that tend to be the worst type of cut and paste cargo cult programmers.

[lilac bear]

microsoft be like DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS

[acoustic pond]

I know sharepoint admins in my city make on average 94k a year

[lean stream]

That's not much

[harsh quartz]

huh?

[acoustic pond]

mean 94k a year to me is a lot but yea depends on what you compare to lol

I only make 55k a year

[harsh quartz]

im only at 35k

[agile siren]

Balmer was way more entertaining than Tim Apple will ever be.

[acoustic pond]

Balmer was wild, I just imagine he had a wild coke habit back in the day lol

[harsh quartz]

this must be one of them whales we have around here

[manic torrent]

I make 128k usd

[lean stream]

For that skill set it isn't much

[lilac bear]

That's not much

[wispy marsh]

Half mortgage, 1/4 living expenses and 1/4 child university fees

[acoustic pond]

again depends on what you are doing and how long you been in the field

[wispy marsh]

Morning mates

[manic torrent]

But I am old and I do solution architect/sysadmin/infrastructure stuff, as well as development

[acoustic pond]

Evening

[lean stream]

SharePoint developer is average is 95k

[lilac bear]

Elon makes way more money than you

[wispy marsh]

Elon also doesn't know how to love his children so

[acoustic pond]

im old and just do sysadmin stuff, used to do hardware though as a DC tech

[lilac bear]

but Elon is like so rich

[manic torrent]

In perspective, it's 94th percentile in Australia

[wispy marsh]

You blind moron

[acoustic pond]

Elon lives in his own little world

[lilac bear]

he is incredibly wealthy though

[acoustic pond]

I just stopped following him, dude has been getting weird

[harsh quartz]

getting?

[manic torrent]

My son is 6, so his uni fees are.pretty low.

[acoustic pond]

mean lots of people are very weathly lol

[manic torrent]

Lol.so what.

[acoustic pond]

gotta start em young, has he chosen his first linux distro yet

[lean stream]

If Elon lets rich people say their controversial things in his platform, they give him even more money

[lilac bear]

Elon was more sane when he was role playing as his 2 year old son

[harsh quartz]

i refuse to believe that he was ever sane and he just never had the money or the platform to be weird until now

[lean stream]

If it's OUL, just get him a Mac and stop it there

[manic torrent]

He is happy to work on anything really

[lilac bear]

is that a...

[acoustic pond]

proud dad moment, I love it

[lilac bear]

LTT Store water bottle?! only avaliable on LTT.com?!!?!?

[spice pine]

the ltt water bottle goes hard

top 10 water bottles i’ve purchased for sure

[acoustic pond]

and Black Friday sale at LTTstore.com?!!! Get a Free Shacket when you buy the LTT backpack only at LTTstore.com

[manic torrent]

Yeah he just wants to be like dad, and dad uses the computer all the time, so he wants to as well.

[acoustic pond]

wholesome

I love how your LTT bottle is in this shot too lmao

[manic torrent]

Haha I know, I didn't plan that at all, but it works

[acoustic pond]

I should get one of those lap desks for christmas for myself but I hate just working on one screen lol

btw what laptop is that @manic torrent

[hot tartan]

Look at him, already ready for the 9-5

[acoustic pond]

yup pretty soon hes going to be working IT support tickets and pulling out his hair as he curses out the end user ❤️

[hot tartan]

Gotta start em young

[acoustic pond]

hell yea

babys first linux distro

[graceful burrow]

I like your chrimmis tree

[lilac bear]

he is training for the "20 years old with 22 years of experience"

[manic torrent]

Xps13

[full fossil]

10 years of experience with computers while being 8 years old.

Keep up the grind

[manic torrent]

Suitable for very small children 😄

[full fossil]

I live in a low income housing environment

[lilac bear]

I thought I was in the star wars server for a moment

[manic torrent]

Congratulations?

[lilac bear]

it a meme

too old to understand

[full fossil]

Mind altering inhibitors

[manic torrent]

I am a very dangerous person and I regularly disobey the law.

[lilac bear]

you can't just google their words to find the source material

we are supposed to gatekeep people of different ages on generational memes

[manic torrent]

You sound like the crab in Moana. "Oh... It turns out you can!"

[lilac bear]

ey Moana fan based

[orchid garnet]

How we doin

[lilac bear]

horrible

this guy keeps out smarting me and then gate keeps his old memes

though only makes a small 128k a year which isn't that much

[graceful burrow]

That dude passed away a bit ago
He was an agricultural pioneer

[full fossil]

Hope you ate plenty of turkey

[manic torrent]

Oh yeah he was an absolute champion

[full fossil]

Literally me fr

[orchid garnet]

The best line to put over this is "It ain't honest, but it's much."

[manic torrent]

I ate no turkey at all, but I did just make toasted cheese sandwiches for the fam. My son rejected it and chose to eat plain bread.

[graceful burrow]

He knows what he wants

[lilac bear]

whats with kids wanting to eat plain bread

[lilac bear]

Elon Musk

[manic torrent]

Also he is getting extremely good at theivery. He was sitting on me watching some TV yesterday... Lifted the contents of my pocket without me noticing. Today, pulled my phone very smoothly and I barely noticed.

[graceful burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-makes-you-fat-eating-bread-carbs-carbohydrates-gif-17360461

[orchid garnet]

True. At least he's better than some.

[manic torrent]

That is the lowest bar to ever bar.

[orchid garnet]

I mean its hard to find giga rich people who aren't like that tho

[lilac bear]

is he competing with Chris Chan or something

[orchid garnet]

I just choose to ignore

[manic torrent]

Yes, because you need to be a huge asshole.to become mega rich, because the only way to do so is off the back of others.

[orchid garnet]

That is untrue but imma not get into that

[manic torrent]

I see you don't understand capitalism or economics

[lilac bear]

Mr Beast is probably the best ultra wealthy with a name out there

[orchid garnet]

Once again. People have strong opinions. I'm not getting into that right now

[manic torrent]

Haha, this isn't opinion, it's fact. It's literally economics.

[lilac bear]

economics has gone WOKE

capitalism has fallen

[orchid garnet]

You telling me its impossible to make a ton of money without exploiting people?

[hasty dock]

Guys

I met Linus in person.

[manic torrent]

In a very literal sense, yes.

[orchid garnet]

Nice

[hazy parrot]

if you use the word exploit very generously, sure.

[orchid garnet]

Id discuss this with yall if I gave 2 fs and had more time.

[manic torrent]

Looool. Ok dude.

[whole swallow]

Why say anything in the first place then 🤷

[orchid garnet]

Good question. I probs should have kept my mouth shut

[manic torrent]

"no ethical billionaires" is not exactly a radical thought

[lilac bear]

"billionaires exploited people to gain wealth" coldest take ever

[full fossil]

Why do we have to wear these ridiculous ties

[hazy parrot]

tradition

[whole swallow]

always thought ties looked kinda shit without a vest to compliment

[full fossil]

Okay

[hazy parrot]

hmm, ties arnt all that bad.

occasions that call for it make it worth it

[full fossil]

There are 2 kinds of rich guys:

1, who kept it to themselves, and 2, the one who needs to show their money 24/7

[full fossil]

Tradition + actually fills the empty void from your shirt and your vest

If you wear a suit that is NOT a Tuxedo, you would always see an empty void on the middle. Put a tie on it or something to make it whole.

[hazy parrot]

eh, a mans neck definition looks good, but really, it depends on the event

[mental kayak]

i always tell myself ill wear a tie necks time around

[eager notch]

Makenzie Scott is doing a metric fuck ton as well

[full fossil]

[acoustic pond]

ah cool

[acoustic pond]

most rich guys that actually have money that Ive met are number 1

and super frugal

the ones who show off the most generally arnt that rich or are bullshitting

[tardy ibex]

anyone knows if the ltt backpack would fit a small computer? 247 x 167 x 362 mm / 9.72 x 6.57 x 14.25 inch

[graceful burrow]

Depends on your definition of small
Every case and laptop has product dimensions listed

[lilac bear]

small like my

wireless earbuds

[tardy ibex]

Height: 18.75" / 47.63cm (excluding handle)
Width: 13" / 33.02cm (excluding straps)
Depth: 11.5" / 29.21cm
- 3.7lbs / 1.7kg empty.
- 25.5L internal volume, 35L external size.```
It says that there are only 25.5l liters inside

I don't know how they are split though

my pc is like 15.5 liters

[low rain]

I sit in the back of the class for 1st and 2nd period of most of the time like half my class js has their phone behind their laptops either watching TikTok, Netflix, or texting 😭

[wise bane]

Do Linus and friends actually ever come in this discord and chit chat? Lol

[harsh quartz]

Only if you drop 3 GPUs and then chant dbrands name into a mirror

[manic torrent]

Linus doesn't have friends, do you even watch LTT?

[wise bane]

I call every group "person and friends" or sometimes "person and gang" and sometimes "person and crew" lol

[manic torrent]

Some staff occasionally slum it with the peasants on discord, more frequently in the floatplane only chat for a more refined type of peasant.

[harsh quartz]

Pay to lose (money)

[manic torrent]

That is how paying for things works, yes

[harsh quartz]

Yes

[lilac bear]

he pays some of his staff to act like friends

[manic torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-joke-ranier-wolfcastle-mc-bain-the-simpsons-stand-up-comedy-gif-4372917

[lilac bear]

💪

[sudden bough]

It’s quiet in floatplane chat

It’s not like discord either. It’s empty until someone says something

[acoustic pond]

whats the latest news with floatplane, havent heard anything about it lately?

[bronze moon]

has linus doen chat gpt gaming computer where chat gpt give him part he has to build what it says?

[lilac bear]

LTT staff occasionally talk in there

[bronze moon]

if so i cant find it

[acoustic pond]

I used to be a floatplane sub but the exclusive videos were meh to me

[sudden bough]

No

[bronze moon]

darn sound like good idea

[sudden bough]

So do it yourself. Make a video. Success.

[bronze moon]

let see what gpu it woudl recommend adn maybe i coukd

it recommend a 3060 hmmmmmmmm noic

[lilac bear]

3060 not terrible

[jaunty compass]

Yeah

[jaunty compass]

Yes he has that's already a video

https://youtu.be/kuTTAuUorsI?si=qiC-FVFXIqV2lKYB

[mental kayak]

is IRC still a thing

[graceful burrow]

Yes

[mental kayak]

woah rizon is still out there

holy shit- that network was full of complete morons. I was a netop on gamesurge, that was ok, other than the kids it brought from toontown

[mental kayak]

What networks?

[manic torrent]

I mean it still exists, but it's a shadow of what it was.

[graceful burrow]

How would I know? I don't use that shit lmao

[lapis solstice]

Make him install arch

[manic torrent]

Lol, the entire concept of making him do anything is hilarious

[mental kayak]

my 5 year old had a mental breakdown when i rolled my truck windows down on a roadtrip so i hear that

[junior tide]

hello

[trim dawn]

Is userbenchmark reliable now or are they still running a circus?

[shut lichen]

don't even mention it's name here

[trim dawn]

So they're still meatriding intel?

[shut lichen]

and nvidia

[trim dawn]

Bahahhahhaha lol. Didn't they get banned from intel's subreddit?

[shut lichen]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[trim dawn]

Lol

[mental kayak]

i trust them - good folks over there.

[jade lantern]

so many comments on youtube recently are all just negative insults and stuff

[mental kayak]

how so

[jade lantern]

#off-topic message

[graceful burrow]

[peak phoenix]

Please, PLEASE tell me this is sarcasm.

[mental kayak]

i mean its not good sarcasm but it is

[jade lantern]

i dont read the reviews i just look at the benchmark scores

[peak phoenix]

Don't trust anything userbench puts out. Ever.

[vapid cypress]

It bad

Which is a shame

[mental kayak]

Chris Pirillo is the only benchmarker i trust

[graceful burrow]

Those are also insanely biased
Nothing that comes out of that site is accurate by any stretch of the imagination

[jade lantern]

oh well time to find a new site

[peak phoenix]

Just rely on stuff like gamers nexus, hardware unboxed and such

[graceful burrow]

Tom's hardware is good too

[mental kayak]

need some more liquor

[peak phoenix]

Maybe someday LTT will build back trust with their review info.

[graceful burrow]

Man they're still making mistakes

[peak phoenix]

really??!

[shut lichen]

where?

[peak phoenix]

I would think the GN callout would be the time to pause and take time. Even if it means being late with a review.

[lilac bear]

snort the copium harder

[peak phoenix]

What is this even supposed to mean? You support UB?

[lilac bear]

nah just the sheer thought UBM is "good"

[peak phoenix]

lol, ok

All is good then

[shut lichen]

they did. they took over a week off, the daily upload schedule on the main channel got thrown out. there's a team of community error checkers too. I've personally not noticed any errors or heard of anyone complaining of such recently
except those idiots on the build advice video saying that the builds in the video didn't match what they're listing, right after linus says exactly why that is in the video

[lilac bear]

Linus: "so this build is different from the original"
comment section: "THE BUILD IS DIFFERENT LINUS LIED GAMERS NEXUS GET ON THIS"

[old yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074269

[vapid cypress]

Squash

[old yacht]

Right here buddy

[bronze moon]

I'm watching it now lol

[old yacht]

oh fuck I thought you was responding to the dude who said "Staff is here sometimes" and you said cant find it lmao

[old yacht]

my bad

[bronze moon]

It ok lol im just vibon

[prime solstice]

Im getting excited for my steam deck to get delivered

[vapid cypress]

@prime solstice yeah

The coolest moment with the steam deck is when I plugged it in into a 50 inch tv and emulating rhythm heaven fever

Like one tiny console can run this

Very epic

[graceful burrow]

(it's a pc not a console)

[prime solstice]

It could be a console it’s already running android (Linux)

[graceful burrow]

You gotta get better bait dude

[prime solstice]

It’s 1 am

[vapid cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-radar-nerd-radar-nerd-emoji-goofy-gif-15206659345311799377

[old yacht]

Im curious on why you think that. I have arguments to why I think its more of a console vs a pc.

[lilac bear]

SD seems to be an odd middle ground

console body with the mind of a PC

[prime solstice]

I’ve seen people flash batocera on the steam deck

[chrome vector]

If "PCs" are PCs than why can they do console commands? Checkmate Techeists

[shut lichen]

Because you can just freely install whatever on it, including the whole OS. Nothing is locked down in any way.

its a handheld pc with a built in controller sold as a console

and you do get the console experience if you dont tinker

[vapid cypress]

Man I hate those ads with buy this and have a chance to win 5000€

And all you get is your information taken

[lilac bear]

real

[manic torrent]

Yes. I don't enter any competitions anymore as a rule. It's not worth it.

[carmine stirrup]

Is it that ease that makes it a PC? With less ease, one can do that on other consoles, too

[lilac bear]

"is a modded 3DS a PC"

[manic torrent]

Is a ti-92 a PC?

Steamdeck I would say is a "PC based console" that's unlocked.

[shut lichen]

no, you cant just freely install any 64 bit x86 OS on other consoles

[carmine stirrup]

But you can do it

I'm just looking for the tipping point to PC, and it seems to be easy software mod

[manic torrent]

Even if you can, the manufacturer is very intentionally trying to prevent it, through both hardware and software and legal means

[shut lichen]

No you can't. Even the current x86 based consoles will not run anything other than their normal OS

[manic torrent]

Just don't ask bionic sea serpent. He thinks that PC means "IBM PC Compatible" and therefore is restricted to things that run dos natively, because he's absolutely cooked.

[carmine stirrup]

Lol!

A brief check didn't show any easy guides for the Xbox series, but one certainly can install other OSes the Xbox One

I'm not saying that ease of software mod doesn't count, I've just never heard a software argument in the console vs PC debate before and I find it interesting

[shut lichen]

that both requires modifying the console and a custom OS build, doesn't count.

[carmine stirrup]

Unfettered ability to mod software is a huge part of PCs and always has been

[lilac bear]

idk about you but I prefer my desktop to be locked to Windows 11

[carmine stirrup]

Lol

I'm pretty convinced, tbh

[peak phoenix]

While the XBox 1 is mostly just a PC, it's very locked down. You aren't installing a new OS on it.

It doesn't really boot like a normal PC

[carmine stirrup]

It's totally doable on xbox1

[peak phoenix]

I mean....sure I did it when I was at MS and worked with a devkit.

But no, you're not doing it. It doesn't run a normal build of Windows.

[carmine stirrup]

I was thinking Linux

[peak phoenix]

you need special tools to flash it, you need the binaries signed.

[peak phoenix]

nope

It doesn't boot like a normal PC. I'll leave it at that since I don't know what's public.

[carmine stirrup]

There are some guides out there on how to do it. I may give them a shot some day

[lilac bear]

installing only Linux doesn't make it a PC

Android would be PC in that sense

with some "distros" being more locked down than others

[carmine stirrup]

That wasn't my argument

[manic torrent]

( PCs ( steam deck ) consoles )

[carmine stirrup]

I'll buy that

[lilac bear]

ahem

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-tech-my-exceptional-mind-smart-intelligent-gif-25317616

[vapid cypress]

All I see is balls

[lilac bear]

based and balls pilled

[opal thunder]

lol

[cunning crag]

very, very off topic but are there any adults here who can help answer my questions about dcfs and homing situations? type deal?

[carmine stirrup]

I'm an adult, but I don't know what dcfs is

[errant mesa]

Coffee now helps me sleep.

[cunning crag]

child protection services type deal?

[carmine stirrup]

Ahh, it's dcs where I live, but I have no experience with them

[cunning crag]

ah damn, yeah it's dcs where i used to live, down here in IL its dcfs i believe

[carmine stirrup]

I'm over in MA 🙂

[errant mesa]

I’ve heard it’s the worst time of year to try and get a job….is that true?

[manic torrent]

yes, dec-jan is the worst. That said, doesn't mean it's impossible, and I've done it, but everything will take longer

[carmine stirrup]

Depends on the job

If not retail, then it likely depends on when a given company's fiscal year ends

[manic torrent]

white collar jobs are harder

[errant mesa]

One if the jobs I applied for and got rejected, expired so I got an email with how many applicants there were at it was 91…..I’ll never get a job with those numbers

Logistics/warehouse type roles.

[carmine stirrup]

Oof

[manic torrent]

you have to play the odds. X many people apply. A lot of those are going to be useless people who never make the cut. Some of them will be unlucky, sometimes that will be you. The key of the resume is to make it through to the next round.

[errant mesa]

The next round will be where I’m my worse.

[carmine stirrup]

Bob is good, Bob is wise

[errant mesa]

Be like bob

[manic torrent]

I have a lot of experience and skills, etc etc. There are jobs which I am objectively a perfect match for that I never received any feedback at all. You are a cog in a big machine, and you have to play the game the way it is - by the numbers. You can't afford to get too invested in any job based on your application.

I once sat on a job offer for a week holding out for $10k more, and I got it. It was a terrifying week, but hey!

[errant mesa]

Yeah, the investment thing is my problem, but I feel like a lot of the jobs I. The sector I’m lacking the professional experience. Or the basic experience they want with something, I don’t have but I have everything else they want.

[manic torrent]

Nobody has everything everyone wants

[errant mesa]

What do you mean sat on it?

[manic torrent]

I mean I got the offer, and I didn't accept it, said I needed 10k more, and it took a week to do it.

[errant mesa]

Oh okay.

[manic torrent]

which I think part was discussion/approval and part was chicken

[errant mesa]

Is it wrong for me to not apply to jobs because it’s a dead end?

Ah yeah

[manic torrent]

That depends entirely on your circumstances. If you don't need a job to feed yourself, absolutely it's not wrong.

[manic torrent]

Let me tell you a story about how I got wise...

I fucked up. A lot 😄

[errant mesa]

Well I’ve done enough fucking up for one life time, age 15 till well when I left the good job I had. So 22.

I’m struggling with the real world and how it works. I take everything at face value…big mistake.

[carmine stirrup]

It's not the worst thing to take the world at face value

[errant mesa]

I lost a lot of things by doing so.

[manic torrent]

oh, it's shit. It's all a balancing act. The key thing to understand is that basically everyone is struggling basically all the time

[errant mesa]

The other big thing being standing up for my self and dealing with confrontation

[manic torrent]

I am still rubbish at confrontation, because of the way I was yelled at growing up

[errant mesa]

I lost a $5 pay rise because I didn’t stick up for myself

[carmine stirrup]

Yeah, I went bankrupt at 22 as a result of trusting the wrong person

[manic torrent]

if it helps, think about defending yourself the way you'd defend the 5yo girl you help care for!

[errant mesa]

Yeah that’s my reason as well, the FASD makes it really hard….i tend to just get overwhelmed and end up crying…not a great look when your trying to defend yourself in front of your boss.

[manic torrent]

because I tell you I would straight up rip heads off for my son 😄

[errant mesa]

Same here.

[manic torrent]

for reals, you have a disability and this is what it does, and you're also entitled to have an advocate help you if you have someone that can do that

[errant mesa]

It’s ironic, I won’t defend myself but if it comes to someone else….its a different story, last year I was in the buss and someone attacked the bus driver, I saw it escalating before he did and as soon as he did I jumped on him, got beat up to hell. Never returned a punch or anything….just got him off the bus.

[carmine stirrup]

Damn! That's brave

[errant mesa]

I’m starting to think I’d having people know about the disabilities I have is a good thing or not…people tend to take advantage of that.

[manic torrent]

oh, it's a double edged sword of bullshit

[carmine stirrup]

Facts

[errant mesa]

Yeah, felt weird hearing that from the doctors, broke my tail bone. But I protected the bus driver and the school girls on board as well.

[carmine stirrup]

I rarely tell people I'm autistic. It usually makes things worse

[errant mesa]

Yeah, i tend to tell people but it’s. yeah a double edged sword. I just don’t know which side to poke.

[manic torrent]

"oh, I couldn't pick it" - yeah, it's called masking, sweaty.

Also I'm a dude who works in IT.

[carmine stirrup]

A lot of people think that we're fishing for sympathy when we tell them

[errant mesa]

Wait that’s what that is…

[fresh vector]

I gift my friend a 1080ti

[errant mesa]

Well sometimes I am, I’ve made mistakes where I should have been fired on the spot, but sympathy or understanding has saved me…a lot people dealt with me at my last job. And had sympathy and understanding, it wasn’t until I left I figured out a lot of bad things that happened were blamed on me. So they would disappear.

[errant mesa]

Is that a yay or a nay

[manic torrent]

oooof that's some bullshit

[fresh vector]

Yay. He is on rx580

[carmine stirrup]

That sucks that they would do that

[errant mesa]

I hate it….i figured I out that the job. I had this year….i changed my entire personality and everything just to be around them…even turned my self into an alcoholic for a while…

[carmine stirrup]

That'll be a nice upgrade

[errant mesa]

Yeah. Thing is there were also complaints about my work. Which would be talked about in meetings, but that was it. Never told to me that I was doing something wrong etc. I only found out because I was mates with one of management.

[errant mesa]

Welll that’s nice of you.

[cunning crag]

very, very off topic but are there any adults here who can help answer my questions about dcfs and homing situations?

[errant mesa]

I’ve got so much I need to learn, basic communication. I’m terrible at. Defending myself etc. so many things that people learn at a younger age. I’m lacking and I pay the price for it.

[carmine stirrup]

At this time of day, you're not going to find many adults up in the USA

[manic torrent]

There are no adults here

[vapid cypress]

I'm a baby

[manic torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-a-baby-baby-im-just-a-baby-gif-25143652

[errant mesa]

I’m so lost in the world right now.

[manic torrent]

I mean, it will be specific to your state etc, I would expect that you should be able get at least basic information off their website.

[carmine stirrup]

The world isn't something that can be figured out by thinking about it, only by doing

The signposts that help you become unlost only appear via action

[hazy parrot]

True facts btw

[errant mesa]

The sign posts are all blurry for me, for I lack the ability to read them (hypothetically)

[hazy parrot]

Doing things I hate doing, always end better than it started.

[manic torrent]

everyone is lost in the world 🙂

[manic torrent]

read brene brown, for reals. Changed my life

[errant mesa]

Yeah I know, I’m just missing fundamentals.

[hazy parrot]

Life is a ride lil vin, make the best of it

[carmine stirrup]

Brene Brown ftw

[errant mesa]

Best is subjective…and dangerous.

[carmine stirrup]

Or look up her Ted talk

[errant mesa]

I’ll look it up

[hazy parrot]

Everything is. Nobody else holds your hand thru it. But good luck. I know how you feel.

[errant mesa]

Sounds like the good old thing if chuck the kid in the water and they will learn to swim.

[lilac bear]

if they die, thats a skill issue

[hazy parrot]

That’s how it really is

See if you can’t make some money. Income is great.

If you already do? Do what you gotta do to make more

[manic torrent]

oh wow, no. so much no.

[hazy parrot]

You know how few people ask for a raise?

It’s unreal

It’s a vicious cycle of working more than you’re worth and expecting it handed to you

[manic torrent]

oh, stuff like that, absolutely, but it really sounded like you were sigma grindset hustlin

[errant mesa]

I’ve been jobless for 6 months. And I think for me to make more the. I did. I’d have to go spend $60K and 3 years to study

[lilac bear]

andrew tate is a great mentor

[errant mesa]

I did, I got it, the. It went away

[lilac bear]

he gets all the girls

[hazy parrot]

Oh hell no. I’m as square as they come. Grunt factory worker.

I make electronics though so that’s cool

[errant mesa]

Oh okay

Everytime I fix my sleep, I mess it up the next night -_-

[vapid cypress]

He beats them too

[manic torrent]

Nothing says awesome dude like being arrested for trafficking

[errant mesa]

The things he has said is just disgusting.

[vapid cypress]

Which is why there shouldn't be any interaction with him

Or any or his "content"

[errant mesa]

Maybe a spray bottle with water on it.

[vapid cypress]

Yes

[errant mesa]

Okay well I’m going to go to sleep now, wait no I’m going to try

Goodnight.

[vapid cypress]

Sleep well

[neon mesa]

you don't have to agree with everything he said

some of the things he said is true
some of the things are..... questionable to say the least

[manic torrent]

... ok?

I mean bad people say lots of things that "are true"

[neon mesa]

i mean if stalin said killing is bad
we wouldn't disagree right

we can just take the message, and not support the messenger

[manic torrent]

yeah that's not how it works

[neon mesa]

everything isn't black and white
take the good stuff and burn the rest

[manic torrent]

It's not "everything andrew tate said ever was wrong". it's "don't consume content from andrew tate"

[vapid cypress]

That's the thing the bad things start mixing with the good messages

[neon mesa]

personally don't like the guy at all especially as a woman but i believe we shouldn't have a 1 dimensional way of thinking

[manic torrent]

That is very very far from one dimensional

[neon mesa]

well i'm not gonna continue arguing
we all have our own opinion a fter all

[manic torrent]

No different from saying don't consume content from jordan peterson. Yes, "clean your room" is perfectly good message. But you don't get that message without all the other shit

[neon mesa]

what's wrong with that one
i mean i get andrew tate, i don't like him

i haven't seen any videos of him saying things remotely as bad as tate

[manic torrent]

Are you familiar with the paradox of tolerance?

[neon mesa]

no

[manic torrent]

look it up, because it's extremely relevant

[vapid cypress]

If I wanted to have good advice I wouldn't watch Andrew tate

[neon mesa]

i really need a bigger case
my 3080ti breaking 70C even at the same power as my 3060

[slim creek]

70C is fine

[carmine stirrup]

Meshify 2 XL! 😄 The thing is MASSIVE

[neon mesa]

not at only 190W

[slim creek]

did you undervolt your 3080 ti?

[neon mesa]

no, the workload simply doesn't need the full 330w

i'm training some AI models rn

[slim creek]

oh ok

[slim creek]

hows that going?

[neon mesa]

for some reason i'm stuck at epoch 1

even after couple minutes, it shouldn't be this long

[slim creek]

what is epoch 1?

[neon mesa]

1 epoch means you went though the whole dataset

[opal thunder]

number goes up the more times you go through it i assume

[slim creek]

oh yeah could I be using my 3060 to make money?

[neon mesa]

yea i used to use the 3060 to train

i didn't make any money on it
but you could probably sell some AI models

[slim creek]

the thing is I know nothing about training AI models

[opal thunder]

Me neither otherwise i'd be putting my 4080 through the tough times

[vapid cypress]

Sell AI girlfriends

[neon mesa]

definitely something wrong on my first one
this time the training actually takes full power

room heater

yes it's full power, i got a 90% power limit to combat thermal throttling

fuck windows crashed

[surreal spoke]

So I’ve seen American prices and they look a lot better than uk ones (something for $200 is often £200 on the uk version of site), would it be worth me getting a pc built over there, then sent over here and I jus get a UK PSU for it, or would shipping etc increase the cost to be the same/higher

I tried the same with a wireless headset ages ago but turns out it wasn’t able to be shipped to me because of the battery in it

[opal thunder]

import fees and shipping 💀

[vapid cypress]

You would pay the same with all the shipping prices

[opal thunder]

unless you have a friend that is going on vacation that you trust with your money i wouldnt do it

[surreal spoke]

That’s why I ask lol, I got family in America that coulda shipped it over to me but if the cost ain’t worth it then I’ll jus stick to uk

[surreal spoke]

May actually have family coming over from there next year so I could be in luck?

[vapid cypress]

If it was cheaper everyone would do it

[opal thunder]

Depends, do your own research because even without shipping import fees may make it more expensive.

[surreal spoke]

Yeh definitely will, just tryna find ways to stretch the budget I’m gonna have as far as I can to get the best specs i can for cheaper

[vapid cypress]

Unless they can get you the PC built there and then somehow passed through the airport safely without damaging the PC

[surreal spoke]

So basically have the luck of having baggage handlers that actually care about peoples stuff

[opal thunder]

not possible

they all hate you

because they hate their jobs

Just get a few small parts like ssd, cpu, and ram.

[surreal spoke]

Even the ones that put your stuff on buses here just throw your cases in

[opal thunder]

so that you can carry on

[surreal spoke]

So the cheap parts lol

[opal thunder]

yeah in case you need to return it...

[surreal spoke]

Oh ye I didn’t even think of what would happen if any issues arose 🤣

[opal thunder]

yeah so only get ssd and ram

small enough to carry on and will save you like 100

[vapid cypress]

You are saying goodbye to waranty

[surreal spoke]

Got an ssd I can use from an old pc most likely gonna use that and ram is cheap anyway only gonna save a couple quid if I get it from America

[opal thunder]

warranty still exists with manufacturers rather than the store most of the time

[surreal spoke]

Kit I’m wanting is down to near £30 now

[opal thunder]

i would still do that since it does save money

[surreal spoke]

I hate when there’s manufacturers warranty and the store warranty/insurance. Any situation I’ve had both it’s always messed with each other

[opal thunder]

You could get a better one

[surreal spoke]

I’m happy with my 16gb kit

[vapid cypress]

Mfs on the news covering about cards predicting the president elections 🤡

[opal thunder]

[surreal spoke]

Technology becoming way too advanced and now we really using it for everything

[vapid cypress]

This is why I don't watch TV anymore

[surreal spoke]

Everything is tech based now

[vapid cypress]

Yeah we have a computer in our hands and wrists

And in the future probably in the brain too

[surreal spoke]

Everyone has a super powerful computer in their pocket at all times now really

smart tvs are just weak computers

[willow rose]

It's like waiting for hardware to go down in price. The longer we wait the more out of date it gets.

[hazy parrot]

That’s a revelation lol

[vapid vine]

Yo anybody knows what does cr1 in a motherboard mean?

[vapid cypress]

Read the manual

[vapid vine]

Dont got it

[vapid cypress]

Online

Just put in your model

[vapid vine]

Its a pre built pc can i still do that?

[vapid cypress]

Yeah

There has to specifications what motherboard is in the PC

[willow rose]

Prebuilds can end up being more costly in the long run as there is always a part that isn't upto the same standard.

[vapid cypress]

Or maybe there is a model name on the motherboard

[vapid vine]

The problem is that its too old

Hp dc7800 from like 2005 - 2007 smth

[willow rose]

What do you plan on using that machine for @vapid vine?

[vapid vine]

Its too old to probably run windows 10, but i figured if i could stick a new cpu in there, upgrade ram and put a new gpu i could get away with for only a year as im getting a high end pc at the end of 2024

Also add ssd ofc

[willow rose]

If that is the machine you are getting you are going to be very limited in what you can do as they are specifically for workstations. Save your money until you get enough.

[vapid vine]

I dont have to, my dad promised me one. Besides putting a gtx 750ti in there and an ssd wouldnt hurt would it? For less than $70 too

[willow rose]

They are about as good as a paper weight and document puncher.

Look around old offices throwing out ewaste and you could even get one for free.

[vapid vine]

Good enough for me tbh

[willow rose]

How much is your father willing to put down on the new machine?

[vapid vine]

$1500 around that

Im not too worried about my future pc i just want smth to spend this year with

[willow rose]

You really aren't going to get far with $1500 either sorry to say.

[vapid vine]

I could get an rtx 4060? Or perhaps 4070 if i was lucky?

[feral island]

Hello could someone please tell me if these upgrades would be worth doing

Current Setup
I7 9700K
RTX 2070

Proposed upgrades

RTX 2070 > RTX 4060
RTX 2070 > RX 7600
RTX 2070 > Arc A750

I7 9700K > Ryzen 5 7600
I7 9700K > Ryzen 7 5800X
I7 9700K > i5 13400

[vapid vine]

Doesn't have to be the best of the best lol

[vapid vine]

What are your monitor specs?

[willow rose]

So for 1500 you will scrape a GPU and that is all nothing else.

[feral island]

Samsung G7 1440P

[vapid vine]

As i said it doesnt have to be the best of the best + i might get a laptop instead since that would be more convenient in a university

[vapid vine]

Refresh rate?

[neon mesa]

the 2070 beats all of those

well not exactly beat, but it's a sidegrade

[willow rose]

I just don't want you to be lead to disappointment you cant do much.

[feral island]

144 hz

[feral island]

Its 5 years old tho

[neon mesa]

put less money on the CPU and more into the GPU
the 5600 will be more than enough
put the rest into a 3080

then it will be a true upgrade

[feral island]

I play all my games at 1440P

[left viper]

dont rizz me, dont come by ohio, we are done. @feral island

[willow rose]

A lot of modern GPUs can do load sharing.

[feral island]

My budget i 415 euros, as theres still black friday

I can get a 5800X for 200 euros

[feral island]

Problem is theres only 4060 and 4060 ti's the nearest 3080 is like bloody 6700 danish kroner

[vapid vine]

I know a lot about PCs and i know that $1500 would easily get me a 1080p 165hz pc or maybe 2k at 120hz on some games

[feral island]

My combined budget is 3100 danish kroner

[neon mesa]

used 3080s should be at like less than 400 in USD

anything more is a scam

[feral island]

Not here in denmark sadly

[vapid vine]

I wont crank the settings to ultra preset either

[neon mesa]

if those aren't an option just keep the 2070

[feral island]

Wouldnt you say its worth upgrading a 5 year old PC?

[neon mesa]

age is just a number (in the pc world)

the 2070 performance is still pretty much the same as those "upgrades"

that 2070 would very much love to serve you another half decade until its death

[willow rose]

Everything comes down to budget. If you don't have enough save until you can just build a brand new one.

Or if you don't have the money then you may have to go without.

I know these are harsh words but the truth.

[feral island]

I think ill just use my money to buy a better telescope

[vapid vine]

If u dont upgrade to 4070 or better then its not worth it imo, also that cpu is good

[neon mesa]

that's just how it is in these european countries kek
shit pc prices
it literally is "tuff luck"

[hazy parrot]

Most people playing esport titles rn are still doing just fine with the GTX 1060

[feral island]

Bru fr?

[neon mesa]

anything below a 3060ti will be a sidegrade, aka you wont feel a difference

[vapid vine]

U play on a 2k monitor so even ur 2070 is still good enough

[feral island]

I havent played a 1080P game in forvever

Maybe ill just buy a ram upgrade. 16 GBs arent enough for hoi4 and modded minecraft

[vapid vine]

And u shouldn't since u have a good and strong card

[vapid vine]

I agree

[feral island]

Alright

[tidal minnow]

I hope Alan wake 2 is the only game in 2023-2024 that has bad vertex shader support.

[wispy pollen]

Heya. I need to ask real quick. I am finishing Computer Engineering, And I plan to go to Software Engineering. How screwed am I?

[hazy parrot]

You done anything yet?

Work on any projects?

[wispy pollen]

I have made programs for other companies. Done some Thesis work, twice since I transferred Unis.

I had knowledge regarding a wide range of programming languages and can learn them just as quickly.

[hazy parrot]

You’ll be fine.

Just don’t drop out, finish class headfast, I hope you still like it enough to have hobby projects, and maybe even contribute to packages you like here or there too. You’ll survive.

AI won’t kill your career. It’s nowhere near replacing actual developers

[wispy pollen]

I like making programs, but I also love making games. I plan to make programs as my way of living, whilst making games on the side, at least until I get a job at some indie game company somewhere.

[hazy parrot]

Hey man I’m not an employer here

[wispy pollen]

And if you're wondering, I also made a lot of games.

Well, small experimental ones, but still.

[hazy parrot]

Don’t need the resume lol

Just keep doing stuff

[wispy pollen]

yea, sorry bout that.

[wispy pollen]

Seriously doubt that they'll replace us completely, given what I have seen in the scene thus far.

[hazy parrot]

What matters to an employer for a developer is a resume with your work on it. And if you’re below their work experience threshold? They’ll look into all of em. So I hope you comment well.

Worst thing is being empty handed. Oh, and try not get exploited either.

[wispy pollen]

That's a tricky part tho.

[hazy parrot]

Friend of mine does web frontend, got taken advantage of to the point of being criminal

[wispy pollen]

I made programs for other people, but I've never kept a lot for myself.

Well, I do, but some of them are under NDAs.

[hazy parrot]

Try to find somewhere that won’t pay your wage based on production commits and actual wage

[manic torrent]

Calling yourself IT-master is pretty cringe though 🙂

[wispy pollen]

So my list of made programs that are saved on my end are low.

[wispy pollen]

Don't ask, it's an old username that got stuck since I was like 13.

[neon mesa]

AI is best at like making boiler codes
a lot of which already exists on stackoverflow anyway

[hazy parrot]

Everyone I’ve spoken to says it’s better for writing good comments than good code

[neon mesa]

it fails at any slightly complicated algorithm

[neon mesa]

yep, AI is good at reading codes

[wispy pollen]

Unless it can write actual functioning code, but then again, if it works, then the code is done in a really inefficient manner.

[hazy parrot]

Still a ticking clock tho, try to be someone who adapts to it sooner than later

[neon mesa]

though a lot of coding with AI involves iterative prompt work

[crystal willow]

Last 3 month i made an ai api that adds comments to code using gbt

[neon mesa]

it can't do it in one go, you'll have to guide it

but again, that's just programming with extra steps

[wispy pollen]

Completed in that regard, had AI on me whenever I feel like I want to use it, though it would require some work to make it work properly.

[crystal willow]

ok, it master

[hazy parrot]

It would be great if you could rewrite its output that it itself could interate off of.

[wispy pollen]

Interesting. where can I see it?

[wispy pollen]

true

[crystal willow]

I used to self host it in my old pc. I lost everything in it cuz i didnt use github 😭

[hazy parrot]

Its like having a new guy at a job lol

He means well but seems really dumb

[wispy pollen]

rip, my condolences.

[hazy parrot]

Yall want something pretty cool

[neon mesa]

it's very good at making ideas though

it's very much is a copilot

[wispy pollen]

what is it?

[hazy parrot]

https://github.com/aandrew-me/tgpt

Breaking openai TOS and scraping text off the site with a ton of burner accounts for people to not pay for the api

[wispy pollen]

heh

[hazy parrot]

They make you pay per some amount of words

And it’s all packaged up, right on the company that owns openAIs own site

[wispy pollen]

is this from using said 3.5 api?

[hazy parrot]

3.5 is a model. And yeah only thing free accs can access

4 is more creative writing and fooling currently existing detectors.

But I don’t really do much in an IDE so, that’s just my take on it

[sudden bough]

Oh cool. Never saw it

[manic torrent]

AI feeding AI, unsurprisingly leads to absolute garbage

[manic torrent]

hahahaha, solid KEK on that front

[hazy parrot]

My perspective is coming from someone who isn’t a developer and self hosts really crunched models. So my bias is real.

[manic torrent]

AI currently generally passes for entry level idiot in many fields

[hazy parrot]

When the language model can admit they’re wrong and the avg entry level has 12 excuses up his sleeve

[sudden bough]

All AI is good for is making naughty images and helping write papers and resumes

Don’t ask it to write programs. You get 10 different wrong answers

[stoic beacon]

Funny... Our company has let almost 40 software engineers go in lieu of having people use it to write code and debug code... Been working great for us

[sudden bough]

Oh my

[stoic beacon]

Visualbasic, python, C++, Maxscript... All work great, and if it doesn't work, you can use it to debug way faster than doing it manually

[soft swan]

And funny videos

[sudden bough]

That too then.

[vapid cypress]

MacDonalds pays you 1$ real

[sudden bough]

;c

[vapid cypress]

Chat gpt made me a butchered version of an autohotkey autoclicker with an gui but it was only made with chat gpt 3 I wonder if I tried with 4, but I'm not paying money also it didn't work, it did something but not what I meant

[hazy parrot]

Idk man, seems tough

Lmao sometimes it suggests you alternatives before it makes you an autohotkey script

[sudden bough]

yeah i've had it write some programs too but i had tot fix it

i doubt companies are relying on it for programming

[hazy parrot]

Ok but you gotta admit, it saves a lot of googling sometimes.

[vapid cypress]

More for like autocorrecting broken code

[vapid cypress]

I have it hard time trusting what it says

[hazy parrot]

I’ve been on a Linux ricing binge lately and it has saved me from so many hunts for docs.

But in the end each time I break it I can only blame myself

[vapid cypress]

It's good as long as you ask basic questions

For the 3.5

[sweet jetty]

He tried finding gold in dirt tho, pretty sure

[vapid cypress]

Yes but the thumbnail

[sweet jetty]

Yeah, fair

[honest plaza]

Is there really a big difference in the hp version vs the kingston version of the hyperx cloud II?
Im used to some random cheaper headphones that i dont even know the brand of

[thin mesa]

there is no soul behind those eyes

[vapid cypress]

More like he has all of the souls (he bought them from the devil)

[feral island]

Fuck sakes i just remember now my CPU cooler is too fucking big for myself to add new ram.

I need 32 gigs however the damn cooler is fucking huge so i cant nudge it in

[dull tapir]

this can happen

rip

[full fossil]

Can someone buy me asseto corsa

Its kn sale 5 dollars

[dull tapir]

can or will

xdd

[full fossil]

Can

[dull tapir]

i can buy it

but i will not

[sudden bough]

😐

can anyone buy me a house? its only $500k

[dull tapir]

someone can

question is will they

[sudden bough]

meh its cheaper to buy a grave. only $2k

[hazy parrot]

Cremation on Black Friday deal

[sudden bough]

!!!

if its bogo want to go halfsies?

[dull tapir]

bleach is cheaper

speedrun life

[hazy parrot]

I got a coupon

[sudden bough]

!!!

[dull tapir]

coupon for an urn

[hazy parrot]

Ok this is getting freaky lol

[dull tapir]

limited edition

[hazy parrot]

Nah keep me in a ziplock

[dull tapir]

in a coffee can

[hazy parrot]

Now we’re talking

That’s luxury right there

[dull tapir]

you go out with flavor

[full fossil]

Ill give all my csgo skins for asseto corsa

[hazy parrot]

Beans

[dull tapir]

beanbags

[hazy parrot]

I hope nobody actually still has a bean bag in 2023

I’d rather squat or something