public-chat

[wise pumice]

honestly for 1440p you can just stay with a 4070 unless youre planning on moving to 4k anytime soon

[steep girder]

Imagine tagging a soundcloud song and the moment you post or edit it, all other songs with the same tags have something happen to them. Or the artists all get notified at once lol

[wise pumice]

jesus christ shut up already 😭

[digital prairie]

Tbh, given my 3080's performance at 1440p, the 4070 will do just fine.

[steep girder]

I want to make sure a loosely defined thing with no convention isn't misused darn it!

[wise pumice]

well youre talking to yourself

[digital prairie]

As long as it isn't cyberpunk or you're trying to push 240hz in non-esports titles, you're fine.

[steep girder]

I haven't even gotten into hashtags yet jk

[lyric flower]

no i probably wouldnt upgrade to 4k anytime soon

[wise pumice]

lul my rx 6600 has been doing fine at 1440p too

[lyric flower]

ive stayed with my current pc and not a single part has been changed since 2019 lol

[steep girder]

Quake Live you can't even set the clients fps past 200 pretty sure. So literally any Hz above that is useless lol. And it's an e-sport (albeit dead asfk one)

[lyric flower]

but now ive basically changed everything

[steep girder]

2080 can't run Cyperpunk with RTX off 1080p on max

[wise pumice]

ye ive had my pc for almost 3 years now... and ive ran out of things to upgrade...

[lyric flower]

ahahah i stayed with the same parts for 4 years almost

[wise pumice]

ive upgraded storage and added a gpu.. now if i want to get better gpu or cpu i need a new psu

[steep girder]

Confirmed because a buddy of mine played on that card. And the lag got bad enough to affect playability when he tried to stream it to disc at the same time lol. Honestly 1440p cyberpunk on max what even runs it

Without RTX. Like 240Hz 1080p maxed out I'd bet there is no consumer grade card still to get it up to 240fps

[graceful burrow]

Bro that's all he does

[wise pumice]

i can see that

[steep girder]

Well no I stopped talking about the tag crap

[graceful burrow]

Zero people in chat ever enjoy it

[steep girder]

I am trying to join in to current topic. Because honestly can anyone answer what can run cyperpunk on max above 200fps even 1080?

[wise pumice]

my rx 6600 probably can

(joke , please dont write 10 more paragraphs)

[steep girder]

1080p raytrace on ultra 4090 24gb it says can't even do 200fps running cyberpunk

Not even 144 lol

[digital prairie]

It gets pretty close, though with DLSS 3.5

[steep girder]

Radeon I think the bench results they just turned rtx off lmfao

[steep girder]

Is raytracing on? o.0

[digital prairie]

DLSS 3.5 = ray reconstruction, so yes

[steep girder]

Uhh.. it's not? Raytrace as in raytrace lighting. I think mean that if you use dlss while raytracing is on, it helps to smooth it out. So it'll 'reconstruct' what's in between rays

[lyric flower]

@wise pumice i tried asking in techsource dc too and all im getting is people telling me get amd 😭

but i dont want amd!!!

[wise pumice]

why not

[digital prairie]

ray reconstruction only works with path tracing enabled

[steep girder]

Honestly if rtx is off and you're at 1080p, why are you even using DLSS? Try turning it off. Did ever try it? Maybe it will look good still

[lyric flower]

i prefer nvdia features and their drivers

[wise pumice]

for me amd and nvidia are the same since i only play games on my pc ... its just that amd is cheaper

[steep girder]

DLSS is literally supersample frame without the real supersampled rendering. So it just guesses and fills in what's in between the pixels

I'm no expert on this but that should be basically it. An upscaler but with AI training somehow. I mean for what it's worth it's an awesome upscale. Def better than all the old ones like 2xSAI or bicubic n sht.

[lyric flower]

ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB TUF GAMING Graphics Card

MSI GeForce RTX 4070 12GB VENTUS E 3X OC Graphics Card

MSI GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB GAMING X TRIO Graphics Card

GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB WINDFORCE OC Graphics Card @wise pumice which one should i get

[wise pumice]

probably the cheapest one

[digital prairie]

DLSS 2/3 (supersampling), 3 (frame generation), and 3.5 (ray reconstruction) are all separate toggles. It's a lot of tech under a single umbrella of DLSS, which can just be better described as "more frames toggle" at this point.

[steep girder]

But if you want more perf try turning either the DLSS off or MSAA. Keep just one of them on

[digital prairie]

The one you think is prettiest.

[wise pumice]

usually performance between gpu brands is negligible

[lyric flower]

i like the msi one cuz it looks a bit pretty

[digital prairie]

I have a gaming x trio 3080 and it looks gorgeous on a vertical mount

would recommend

[steep girder]

Idk never tried cyberpunk with my amd. I should have. It's better than 1060 6GB I had before it. And 1060 honestly ran it like low-medium settings with bearable FPS except certain parts

[brazen haven]

if people havent seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TemC1EO8NdY

[steep girder]

RTX I wouldn't even think about it though lmao.

[brazen haven]

blizzard are doing shinanigans

[lyric flower]

so just go with the one that looks good ?

peformance wise there isnt much of a difference

[steep girder]

My 144hz monitor definitely will be useless still because I doubt 144fps is achievable on minimum setting 1080. Hella game, cdprojektred... hella game

[spice pine]

blizzard being blizzard

[steep girder]

Wasn't blizzard acquired or something like last month

[brazen haven]

they are spoofing ratings on steam

[digital prairie]

Watch out, though. The pretty pc rabbit hole is an expensive one

[steep girder]

Activision Blizzard acquired by Microsoft. RIP :(

[brazen haven]

hmm i cant share picture...

jost look on steam

its messed up

[steep girder]

Coming soon next month: windows store and update needs to be enabled to download WZ2. Half the people gonna get errors upon update/dl with those annoying codes 0x8007 at the starting

[steep girder]

You ain't seen shinanigans yet

[brazen haven]

just take a look on that vidio, its bad. som violating steam and messing with ratings and shitt

[steep girder]

Diablo 6 gonna run only on windows 12 calling it now

If you have a problem with Steam ratings btw dread no more. They might soon like leave Steam altogether lol. And even pull all previous titles from that store

[agile lake]

been running furmark for the last 30 minutes just to warm up the room faster lmao.. wind is causing so many drafts.

[steep girder]

Microsoft has its own store. It's called Microsoft(tm) Store

[agile lake]

atleast i know my 3080 is perfectly settled at 78c

[brazen haven]

i dont like microsoft. when i can run solidworks and shitt on linux i will

[digital prairie]

I'm a big fan of running random games to warm my room in the winter if it gets cold.

[brazen haven]

intels idle powerdraw is enoth for me tbh

[steep girder]

You know you can make cpu and maybe gpu that hot all the time without having to run furmark right? You don't even have to run it at that clock. Just raise voltage and set it to constant value whatever it is during furmark. For all cores lmao

[agile lake]

reason to crank the settings and upscale

[steep girder]

But using silicon as heater is misuse tbh. Just get a space heater?

[agile lake]

just to get the ambient up, works fast in a bedroom.

[brazen haven]

can a space heater show me memes?

[pure olive]

Hi

[steep girder]

No but a computer not running furmark at the time can lol

[digital prairie]

Holding your chips at a constant temperature is better for them than the random up/down spikes that gaming usually creates

[steep girder]

You can use space heater and computer at the same time

[agile lake]

i don't have a space heater.

[brazen haven]

do you want burn up or?

[digital prairie]

You could also run folding@home if you wanted to do something productive with your makeshift space heater

[agile lake]

and the furnace is already running, it's fucking cold outside with a hell of a wind. this house is 65 years old

[steep girder]

Yeah but even at stock preset settings, probably all CPUs don't like being loaded 100% all cores for hours on end

[brazen haven]

only 65? the house i live in atm is from 1836 or 37. i dont remember witch it was

[agile lake]

@brazen haven all wood panelling up here with minimal insulation 😦 i can feel the cold air around the window frame

[brazen haven]

same.

[digital prairie]

Assuming it's adequately cooled and at stock settings, I've quite literally never heard of a cpu dying of overuse.

At least not in the 4-6 year time scales that people might normally keep one.

[agile lake]

i did crypto on this 3080, i know it can take a bit of furmark

temps are within range so all is well

[digital prairie]

Shit, the cpu in my old gaming laptop probably sat at 100C for thousands of hours over the decade I used it.

[brazen haven]

i have a 3060 and i dont think the fans are even on atm

[digital prairie]

Did you swap out the thermal pads? I didn't like how my memory was basically pinned at 110C. $60 in thermal pads and it stayed at ~70-80C for the remainder of my mining.

[steep girder]

I've never had a CPU die on me within even 6 years for sure. Usually something else or it gets shelved in like garage -30 temps and doesn't work when I randomly try for giggles a decade later lmao. Even then not sure if it's CPU

[brazen haven]

why is my browser using 50% of my cpu...

[agile lake]

@digital prairie it's a dell oem 3080, only modifcation it needed was some extra thermal paste to fill a small airgap between the heatsink and plate above the memory, brought my memory hotspot from 106c to 81c when i was mining eth

[steep girder]

Thing is in theory any and all use is 'wear' on silicon

[agile lake]

only wear you'd see is maybe on the power delivery?

[steep girder]

But 100% all cores for multiple consecutive hours idk. It's definitely the least possible optimum state for it to be in during that timespan

[steep girder]

No I'm talking about silicon itself. Power delivery wdym?

[agile lake]

heat cycling on mosfets / etc

over time, that would likely be a cause before silicon related death

[steep girder]

Like vrms? That's the most important thing I'd say

Yeah VRM mos?

[digital prairie]

power delivery from the mosfets and VRMs would go long before the silicon

[agile lake]

@digital prairie this

[digital prairie]

That's why motherboards get more expensive over time and cpus get cheaper over time. The cpus live forever and the mobos slowly die.

[brazen haven]

huh my browser sudenly used like 40-70% cpu and i killed the prosess and nothing closed and it seems fine. od bugg for shure

[steep girder]

Yeah I'd bet they do. Also when the VRM goes idk probably only two possible outcomes: it still delivers some power or not lol

[agile lake]

either you get no beans or all the beans

[steep girder]

Do mosfets become insulator or conductor when they die? Or are there multiple scenarios

[digital prairie]

Pretty sure they become no-power-delivery-o.

lil smoky bois

[agile lake]

wonder if any raising desks are on a decent black friday sale... might have to browse around

[steep girder]

Transistor either open or closed

[digital prairie]

I read this first as "ray tracing desks" and I just thought "all desks are ray traced, dude"

[agile lake]

path traced desks

need some sleep my dude

[steep girder]

Usually 3rd terminal you deliver voltage to control it. Whatever there's def way more to vrm than just mosfets

[digital prairie]

I really do.

[steep girder]

But again idk if I ever had vrm on mobo go either. Like literally always the entire system somehow after not using it or thrashing around bare in some cupboard/drawer

[digital prairie]

ray traced desk :))

[steep girder]

I usually try with at least new PSU. So that's not it

I'd try the chip by itself to truly know but never have another mobo for that socket lol. It's ancient by then

[agile lake]

just got my 11700k / 3080 setup a couple years ago, probably won't be getting anything newer for at least 5 years

[brazen haven]

as an electrical engener. they can do alot. one of them is killing your cpu

[agile lake]

should of waited for 12th gen, but that ship has sailed

[brazen haven]

A shorted MOSFET in a VRM could lead to excessive voltage being supplied to the CPU or other components, potentially causing damage.
An open-circuit failure would likely result in insufficient or no power being delivered to the CPU, leading to instability or failure to boot.

[digital prairie]

There's almost always something around the corner that you could wait for, to be fair.

[agile lake]

that's fair

[brazen haven]

well intel 14 gen isent one of them tbh

or 13.1 as i call it

[steep girder]

The second one sounds better. But how do you even short out a transistor? Isn't that basically bypassing it altogether lol

[brazen haven]

burning over the insulating layer.

i whould send a pic but i cant

[steep girder]

Or you short out the third terminal with the control voltage or whatever. Not sure about vrm mos but looks like it takes lotsa volts

[brazen haven]

or heat

[steep girder]

Right yeah or you overvolt it and fry it. But that's what I was basically asking. So you can fry some insulating components in there. I'm guessing insulating layer is diff from the actual semiconductor

[brazen haven]

the semiconductur is cinda the insulator. it insulatis if it has a lack of electrons and if it gets an abundance it will become a conductor

and you have doping as well. adding impuritis to change the conductivity

[steep girder]

Yeah I get the basic idea of it. Just looked it up to remind myself and realized I forgot that diff type of transistor operate fairly diff even from the outside. MOSFET it matters which voltage is higher to use as switch

And there's also an operating range...

[brazen haven]

yea they are fairly complex. its not just an on or off switch

[steep girder]

Idk either way yeah I never want a VRM to die in any way lol. Apparently you can short a vrm mos so that's one way I know. Before that, I was only aware of the importance PSU has. If the PSU isn't delivering clean enough power or you end up with vdroop, vsag, vdip, vhang, whatever, it loads the vrm more and it dies faster

[brazen haven]

and thats why your psu has overcurent protection

i hope

[steep girder]

The MOS idk but I'd certainly wish they were cooled better on a system I have because they're always the hottest thing during idle at like mid 40s C range. Then again I don't have my voltages fixed and they are uncoupled completely however that works. My voltages are just stock settings tbh. They go between like sub-1V to 1.4 depending on the clock

[manic torrent]

Time for a drive I think

[steep girder]

Apparently I can save my vrm a bunch of life time by fixing voltages and a few other settings... meh though. I might have higher chance of frying. It needs like around the maximum voltages I end up with at full load. Did trial and error. Idk if I fix it to 1.4V, I might be wearing vrm less but the CPU will suffer instead right

Constant high temps, etc. Fans being loud all the time, room heating up within fastest possible time of like 30m. I'd rather have variable voltages. Unless I'm not running certain few games I play, all my use might as well be idle lol

Like what is using browser? It revs up a bit a start up or updates itself. Then it's -6.9% no core load. But then again, certain sites I leave tabs open and it uses a lot of CPU for some reason

[digital prairie]

I feel like some programs just reserve portions of your system resources if they detect that they're free.

I've changed none of my computer usage habits and my passive ram usage has gone up 8GB since I went from 32 to 64GB

I used to hover around 16 used, and now it's 24-25.

My steam deck finally shipped

https://tenor.com/view/there-are-four-lights-picard-fuck-your-bullshit-star-trek-kingdom-of-bullshit-gif-14936675848561176051

[brazen haven]

windows?

[digital prairie]

windows

[brazen haven]

i cant get one.... they dont ship up here

[steep girder]

I was thinking more like insanely suspect because those certain browser tabs are 'detecting and using free resource' either js crypto miner or bad programming lol

Like aside from crypto mining, what on earth can just in a pure abstract sense the frontend of a web app be doing when the tab isn't open let alone the entire tab's browser window is minimized from desktop lol

I once made a hackish workaround for some sht in frontend using java script and instead of any events in browser at all, I used a timer on repeat every few hundred millis or so. I immediately got scolded for it and had to redo it properly lmfao

[digital prairie]

CPU and GPU are idle to the max. If someone's crypto mining off <1% of my chip, I guess they've earned going under the radar

[steep girder]

Like in an html frontend, you're supposed to do everything at an event. The entire thing starting from root-most elements (window and such which contain even html element itself) loads at one point. Things inside can be hovered, focused, unfocused, etc. Most things are implemented such that at times they will resize. Window resize event is very important and useful. Inside it html can get resized and the rest like body, blah

[digital prairie]

Might just be programs holding onto their unneeded memory allocations because they detect the overall memory pool is still healthy

[steep girder]

There are a few initial events when you "load" a page standardized. Load but there's also ready and a few others should be. So actually you have an event for when the document is "ready" which I recall is safer to use than like window loaded. Your browser tells you when the entire doc is loaded as well as when it finishes rendering it and all client-sided calculations which automatically happen based on potentially other things in doc. So like the entire doc gets obtained, then perhaps a div's height is 100% which means that its parent element's height 100%. The parent could also be a percentage. There are units like vw and vh which are hundreths of window v and h. So they change. You do things before and after any event gets to you from browser

[unreal wing]

i have a 10400f and im looking to upgrade, is the 10600kf a decent upgrade?

[steep girder]

But then you can also take the dark path and (ironically still use an event or just run something within a script block element which will ultimately happen when that element is loaded or ready don't remember exactly. So still at event but just outside of it and you can't get any of its parameters back if any. Then you proceed to start a loop of timeouts which calls a function. In that function... what do you do?

I calculated a moving box's dimensions and position and crap. Based on scrolling and the page's main content in the center which varied since people had different window size, etc. Then I set that floating alert box accordingly.

[jaunty compass]

Honestly I don't think it's worth it I think you should wait until you can actually buy a more modern board and CPU

[manic torrent]

You are the phrase "enough knowledge to be dangerous" personified.

[jaunty compass]

The 10400 is fine

It's not the fastest thing ever but it's still fine

[digital prairie]

Not gonna be a huge upgrade. If you're upgrading, it would probably be better to at least do 11th gen if you're keeping your current motherboard. I'd recommend holding off and just getting a 15th gen chip, or something along those lines when you finally decide to upgrade.

[jaunty compass]

Don't get an 11th gen chip

[digital prairie]

It'll cost more as an upgrade, but then you can also sell your current cpu+mobo combo to get something back.

[jaunty compass]

Rocket lake was a dud

[soft swan]

I mean 11th gen yea but some of them are eh

[soft swan]

Gear ratio’s on ram

[jaunty compass]

Wait until you can get something more modern because the 10400 is fine

[digital prairie]

Yes, yes, yes, 11th gen was a waste of sand. It's still technically slightly better than 10th.

[steep girder]

Well no. I mean it's probably common knowledge among frontenders who use any js in browsers. All browsers have it too and it's not specific to moz or chrome either. It's very basic crap. Even I felt that it was some of the most hackish crap I ever did in that field (and surely enough others reciprocated by not even accepting it lmfao).

[jaunty compass]

I have one in a spare machine and it runs fine it's not what I'd call slow

[steep girder]

But my point is that if you get something running all the time even when tab isn't open... what can you do in those procedures? What could an html frontend of a web app possibly be doing when it's not open?

I feel like the answer is literally not a thing. If a js code block is running something in a loop when you're minimized, you might be safe to assume that it's at best of actually 0 use to you (crypto miner on the other hand I guess are pretty much exact opposite; try thinking of other real life examples because I'm struggling).

[manic torrent]

No dude, I mean, you take the knowledge you have, and you just ignore everything else.

The behaviour of web pages when not in focus or displayed is well documented. Modern chrome has started entirely removing stale pages from memory, and I believe firefox does similar.

[digital prairie]

Oh no, I opened amazon and I regret it so deeply

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-spongebob-i-dont-need-it-sweat-gif-5031443

[graceful burrow]

With manifest v3 I'm swapping to Firefox

Or
Brave I think is forcing support for manifest v2 but brave's got some questionable history

[steep girder]

I can't write an industry standard modern app from stack end to end. And yet I can look at a guy's frontend code and tell that it's almost certainly misuse of that very front facing tip of the stack. And by extension, it would mean that immediately after it you might have things missing as well. So like you want to request information asynchronously as client and see it on frontend. That information is unique (maybe somehow derivative of the parameters for that very same request each time). But then you want to retain it somehow together perhaps displayed at once. You accumulate whatever data you got in asynchronous request's response per an entire session

[manic torrent]

I can. and I am telling you, you're just making shit up. Like... the things you're talking about about not NOT a problem, but people who actually understand them and can fix them have also noticed.

[old pond]

Do you know what's hotter the vrms?

[manic torrent]

@steep girder do you not have an internal monologue or something? Because it legit feels like you stream of consciousness DIRECTLY into pub-chat

[manic torrent]

yes

[steep girder]

Well I'm not making it up. I swear I made a JS loop, put it into a WP site, got yelled at and had to redo it using existing event (across all browsers including safari). I mean it was bad because to make it work even half-decently, I had code firing in a loop every timespan shorter than half a second. Then before I told them why it was so much laggier, I raised it to like 750ms. Then 800ms and stopped whenever it wasn't noticeable on my machine. But then the element began acting choppy. If you resized tab, it jumped into correct place that same 800ms later. Literally the only thing in entire site that had this.

[manic torrent]

yes, because that's shit

If only there was an event fired on resize. OH WAIT THERE IS

event driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> loop

[paper temple]

Hello can someone who knows about the pc world help me with deciding what to do with my new build because i am on my second pc and both times i didnt know about pc part picker and spent way too much money on old parts thinking they was new and have wasted tons of money now i know about part picker and stuff i know how bad i have messed up and someone in here could prob help me it would be awesome if you could 😁

[leaden gale]

Man, what the fuck, I'd love to have something like that, but that's too fucking expensive

[paper temple]

i spent 700usd on a 10850k thinking all i9 was the same someone help me out here

[manic torrent]

#1106613567966429224 also pcpp forums, also pick a starting build, or just make a build from scratch and ask for feedback. People are much more likely to help you if you can make a start yourself - you also haven't given any requirements in terms of spec, budget, or anything.

[steep girder]

Right. But my point is think about why it's shit. To start, even my abomination... should it run in background when minimized? No. Because you're literally not using the document in any way. Can you tell me what happens when window gets resized but the tab isn't open? Do you fire resized when you bring it back up or do you fire events right away in the background?

[digital prairie]

If you're American, that's Canadian dollars

[manic torrent]

That's up to the browser - that's the entire point.

[leaden gale]

I mean, that makes it a lil bit better, but it's still like $100 more than my GPU

[manic torrent]

If you are using resizing the window to trigger other shit, you've done it wrong.

[steep girder]

That's actually something I never even looked up. I mean it matters because your DOM tree will have everything happen to it either when you're in that completely separate window with a dom tree (or more shadow ones nowadays too... wtf). The other option of two is it will happen if you resized window when you show that tab again (and close the others making them inverse cases of the exact dilemma). My opinion is the event should fire as soon as you bring tab back.

[manic torrent]

My monitor was $1500 USD, and my video card $500 USD

[leaden gale]

Touché

[manic torrent]

but WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE. The page isn't rendered.

[ionic abyss]

ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!

[steep girder]

Ideally I think it's the exact opposite in every single way. Browsers should implement what we assume is the same toolkits and such for their scripting engine, all the same CSS attribs and values and ultimately behaviors. It should be standardized and the browsers must implement it correctly. Otherwise it's considered to be regressive behavior. I mean regression from the rest of browsers implementing that same standard and maybe iteration/version/revision of it. But we have that. W3 is the official standard holder right?

[manic torrent]

The point is that you don't care.

[alpine harness]

will there be a wan show today or will it be only the black friday livestream

[ionic abyss]

youtube should be ad free

[steep girder]

Well actually, again, consider hooking onto window resized event and deleting an element. Then another event when page is scrolled or something to determine something based on whether or not element is still there

[ionic abyss]

youtube shouldnt be allowed to slow down browsers

[manic torrent]

And paid for by magic

[chrome vector]

Servers and unlimited storage isn't free. It's either ads or subscription based to watch and upload

Imagine having to pay to upload Youtube videos like other platforms

that's a reality

[graceful burrow]

I'd prefer the ads
Easier to circumvent than subscription models like Netflix

[full fossil]

Laptop

[spice sand]

that’s a nice power bar that is

[manic torrent]

Time to get sauced and write bad code!

[ionic abyss]

youtube picked a fight they cant win

adblockers will win!

[steep girder]

I feel like you haven't really even gotten to the real part of it: in actuality is the window resized when you do so with mouse... the window which is currently displaying a completely different document? Or better yet, which window is it? Is that the very one and same window that both tabs are referring to?

[ionic abyss]

youtube will loose more money fighting adblockers than the can make

[steep girder]

Because here actually I don't think two documents in different tabs have access to the same elements lol

[acoustic pond]

hell yea, drinking and coding is the best lol

[manic torrent]

Dude, there are lots of ways to have a resize event occur, and if you depend on any of that shit, you have done it totally wrong.

[manic torrent]

No, what the fuck does that have to do with anything

[prime solstice]

I shocked myself with the lightbulb socket

[full fossil]

My code is clean, functional, and definitely not dropped into an absolute state of alcoholism due to Tensorflow

[steep girder]

You know what durr youre right i guess. Its up to browser because you can either be running the page or not

Still though if a browser continues timer in background, window should be resized somehow? If events fire when you bring it up, the entire script engine should be suspended. So no background js running. Imho thats the way. Tabs should be entirely suspended unless theyre actively displayed. Solves literally any crypto miner or other crap using cpu.

[manic torrent]

Except if you want to receive alerts from them... And in a few other scenarios.

But yes, that's how it works most of the time.

The entire point of an event driven architecture is that you don't have to care if it does or not. That's the browsers problem

[steep girder]

Yup :/ and even if for some reason you want a purely client sided game minimized. Wouldnt be able to run simulation in background

[manic torrent]

It can, but it's up to the browser.

This is why a browser is basically a full OS, because it needs to do task management, window management, display drivers, input, storage, security, etc.

[gilded forge]

this philosophy is why free and supposedly "ad free" platforms die. by not distributing ads, there's no feasible way to ever break even. you'd always be in debt.

YouTube is massive. it needs ads to even function.

[ionic abyss]

youtube is trying to force adds on people and wait time for people who dont use their browser

[steep girder]

Wait google throttles dl speed and makes it hard to block advertisements on its own servers for its own service? Tbh of all bad things google does... how is this one of them?

[ionic abyss]

that is worse than going broke

the concept of anti trust and monopolies must be lost on google

[gilded forge]

okay. how the fuck do you propose they even make money to keep YouTube functioning

[ionic abyss]

adblockers will just get better and harder to detect

and forcing nonchrome users to wait will catch the goverments attention

[manic torrent]

... "YouTube is forcing ads on people"

.... It's literally part of the core product.

The wait time on non chrome browsers is an entirely seperate issue and is absolutely fucking horrible.

[full fossil]

Oh they make enough with ad blocker users as well

[ionic abyss]

this will just cause 3rd party browsers to not be chrome based and to suppot better ad blocking

[edgy sluice]

Anyone knows how to fix a pc boot looping on automatic repair

[gilded forge]

no, it wont.

[ionic abyss]

its not a fight youtube or google will win

[edgy sluice]

No one was answering on tech chat

[ionic abyss]

did you try safemode

[edgy sluice]

Not yet

[steep girder]

Ad blockers have been pretty much 100% stopped for a long time on certain news sites n crap. Its simple: you block the ad serve domains using adguard dns. Ad doesnt load; scriptlet with nonce key isnt there. It was the token to load content. Asynchronously you can do that

[manic torrent]

Did you try turning it off and on again?

[edgy sluice]

It just loops

It turns off on its own

And when i turn on same thing

[ionic abyss]

that may just be the update progressing

[edgy sluice]

Goes for about 5 mins

And turns off

[ionic abyss]

some windows updates reboot 1-3 times

[gilded forge]

does it turn itself back on or do you have to press the power button again?

[edgy sluice]

Well its been an hour now

[edgy sluice]

I have to press the power button again

Like a second after it turns on i press it

[steep girder]

Wait derp you can just make ad blocker remove elements after ad and html load with token happened

But either way you downloaded the ad crap from ad server to get the key. In general, you don't really know because it can be specific to each ad serve. Didnt ublock origin and abp already have user report system if an ad isnt blocked or you got detected?

Problem w youtube is that it doesnt use domain names for its ad servers. Then they insert the ads into the same stream as content or some sht.

Honestly though wtf what do they use? User agent string? It can't be that simple...

Has anyone tried just firefox in about:settings the string changed to chrome?

[sudden bough]

Wait what

[ionic abyss]

next you will say i should subscribe to streaming services to watch their exclusive shows vs watching the show on a pirate site

[steep girder]

Oh nah someone told me roughly the premise and Google is basically going to change actual open standards somehow. Brb searching exact thing that supposedly benefits just private megacorp

[jaunty compass]

Google is genuinely just horrible, they're pushing for drm on the internet

[sudden bough]

Google bad

[indigo plume]

ads have made me completly stop watching twitch

[digital prairie]

I don't watch channels I'm not subbed to anymore.

Prerolls are absolute cancer. I'm not waiting for 2-3 minutes to find out if I want to watch a new streamer, or a streamer I know that's doing content I'm not familiar with.

[indigo plume]

I dont sub to channels

Im not giving ppl money to watch them lol

[ionic abyss]

ok i just saw a arc a750 for $99

[indigo plume]

they already get ad revenue

[manic torrent]

... Subscribing to a channel on youtube costs you nothing

[indigo plume]

not talking about youtube

[manic torrent]

... But he is.

[indigo plume]

He was talking about streamers and most streamers stream on twitch mate

[ionic abyss]

is the arc 750 worth $99

[graceful burrow]

If you like driver issues yeah

I wouldn't recommend arc to anyone unless you know what you're doin

If you're asking if it's worth it, my guess is you dont

[manic torrent]

If you want to explore it? Absolutely. If it's your Only card and you're looking because you're povo? Probably not.

[vagrant sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/hacking-computer-screen-green-screen-computer-commands-gif-14181664

[steep girder]

Honestly though Google evil is a number of completely separate things. Some are of the opinion that they break actual laws in the US among other countries...

[harsh quartz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/375436621450969089/1142312437769584710/embreadfail.gif

[sudden bough]

Ads on twitch aren’t as intrusive as on YouTube

[harsh quartz]

Depends on how your watching the stream

On a mobile device, the twitch ads are actually far worse than YouTube on mobile

[steep girder]

Idk looks like this recent crap everybodys on about makes sense from a business standpoint... and honestly can you bring up some material instance of them breaking laws as it relates to ads?

[sudden bough]

I watch on my kindle and have no problems

[steep girder]

But all of this is easily avoidable if everyone chooses to not use their services for everything. Then use a diff browser

As in just dont update. Even chrome itself lol. Every other web server just opts out of using anything they propose from hereon out

[graceful burrow]

They're much more intrusive because twitch bypasses my adblock more than YouTube does
Which is hilarious when I say it out loud

[steep girder]

Like wtf honestly why is Google considered authoritative

[sudden bough]

Oh I don’t ad block on twitch.

I just mean I can be watching a YouTube video and someone would get cut off mid sentence

On twitch you can get the picture and picture and still hear the stream

[steep girder]

I was joking about how an easy fix is to just fork an old gecko-based browser engine, fix some XSS problems which there would be a lot of, add new TLS or whatever and boom. Literally fkn it.

[paper temple]

someone come into tech chat 1 and watch my short clip and tell me if the fps drop is normal i know its not

from like 240 to 150 just looking into sky

[steep girder]

You have https and on the other side httpd to get and load from, post to. That is the internet. What more? What other protocols?

[bright silo]

1000% normal

[paper temple]

it feels like im playing on a wii

like stuttery and wierd

[bright silo]

lol

[steep girder]

Well wdym bypasses? Youre watching the stream. The stream starts showing commercial

[paper temple]

is 4070ti and i5 good

[restive lion]

The reason this is is because twitch has actually figured out to not serve ads clients side

[steep girder]

Does Linus bypass your adblocker when he seguays to sponsor and begins saying words about product lmfao

[graceful burrow]

No, because I use sponsorblock
Also
I don't watch ltt anyway lmao

[paper temple]

could you hook up a power generator to a pc

[sudden bough]

Like a battery backup?

[graceful burrow]

Why wouldn't you be able to
As long as you supply the right voltage at enough consistent amperage it doesn't make a difference where it comes from

[steep girder]

Doesnt YT itself highlight the portions in timeline where 'may contain sponsored or promotional messages' or whatev

[full fossil]

who knows anything about unlocking smartphones

[manic torrent]

Inb4 dodgy ass illegal shit

[ionic abyss]

i just saw some brand of keyswitches called creamy pink taco

[graceful burrow]

No, it only puts a yellow marker on the timeline when there's a YouTube-provided ad

[full fossil]

im just looking at used phones for my dad and the one i like is locked to verizon

is this something i can do myselg

myself*

[steep girder]

Whats funny is Google might actually have the best closest thing to fully automated sponsor message detection. Even then people bypassed it and reversely it made a lot of false positives

[strange rivet]

Shoudl i buy OEM windows keys? if so what are a good website

[ionic abyss]

if the verizon phone has been paid off and is on their network long enough you should be able to unlock it

[steep girder]

Because there was def youtuber i watched who talked about YT detecting sponsors. Or maybe it was specific products/brands

[full fossil]

its on backmarket (used)

so idk if its paid off, id assume it is

[ionic abyss]

it should be usable on visable even if locked to verizon

[steep girder]

But think about how after getting speech to text transcript assuming its perfect, thats the easy part. Then you have to either rely on user feedback or AI training to automate promotion detector lol

[full fossil]

i just want to get rid of it

Whisky

[steep girder]

And the line gets blurry. Like watching normal world and Dave screws up or makes some funny asfk joke about the sponsor product lol

[gilded quest]

So you don't have it connected to a Verizon account yet

[full fossil]

i havent bought it

[steep girder]

So i mean its both the content and product promotion at the same time

[gilded quest]

Ah

[full fossil]

i just want to know what im in for if i do

[gilded quest]

Buying carrier locked devices in hopes of unlocking them doesn't seem worth it

[steep girder]

Idk i dont skip them. Though i think that ill never wanna buy underwear w horizontal flap instead of vertical bc its state of the art revolutionary breakthrough some how. In fact i think its stupid...

But i still enjoy the sponsor bit lmfao

[gilded quest]

Because if someone is selling a device that isn't paid off, then Verizon has no reason to unlock it until the debt is settled

[full fossil]

that is what i was thinking

[gilded quest]

Is back market a consumer to consumer marketplace, or do they buy items, refurbish, and sell?

[full fossil]

ive seen some things with bootloading but im jsut a dummy idk what that is really doing

they buy used items and sell them

its not like ebay

[gilded quest]

What device is it? On many the bootloader is locked and has to be unlocked by carrier

[full fossil]

google pixel 4

[steep girder]

Back market? You mean black market? Idk what back market is supposed to be lol

[gilded quest]

Uhhh

Back market is a website name lol

[steep girder]

Oh lol. Sounds shady

[full fossil]

actually whats the difference between a pixel 4 and a 4a

[gilded quest]

Pixels should have unlockable bootloaders, however you may have to go to Verizon to get it unlocked

[gilded quest]

A lot

[full fossil]

oh erm

[gilded quest]

How much is the device?

[full fossil]

100 dollars

[ionic abyss]

you can compare the price on backmarket to the swappa prices

[steep girder]

I mean any big brand phone has official retail and certified refurb or some sht. So if you buy a samsung that says retail unopened or certified refurb but its not... you got scammed legally speaking I guess

[ionic abyss]

swappa will have better support

[zinc oracle]

I've bought 3 phones off it, it's a b2c and their pretty good

[full fossil]

ive bought my force feedback wheel from these fellas on ebay for a bargin

i guess its the same thing here

[zinc oracle]

4a was the cheaper model

[steep girder]

If it says either and the phone is broken or missing, you know immediately also scammed. So in that case see if you can dispute transaction or return idk

[full fossil]

when we say cheap is it like a samsung A whatever

[gilded quest]

Pixel 5a is on eBay, unlocked, for like $130

[ionic abyss]

what phone you looking at if i may ask?

[full fossil]

or actually worth a damn

[steep girder]

Or call police lol. Hopefully the law can help you wherever site or storefront is lol

[zinc oracle]

I bought a pixel 4 on backmarket for 130 USD a year ago

[gilded quest]

4a was such a killer value when it launched

[full fossil]

something decent, my dad isnt the most advanced smartphone user.

[ionic abyss]

https://swappa.com/buy/unlocked

[steep girder]

If a samsung brand new is even a quarter price cheaper than what current retail value is... it's likely too good to be true unless you get an explanation

[gilded quest]

Buying him a an EoL device doesn't sound like the best idea?

[full fossil]

is a pixel 4 really not going to be supported

[gilded quest]

It's EoL on updates

[full fossil]

i use an iphone btw

damn

[gilded quest]

Even the 5 is EoL on updates

Iirc

[full fossil]

must be why a couple of these shops are trying to get rid of them

[steep girder]

You should look for certified refurbs if brand has it. Probably one of the best shots you have and huge discount for good smartphone. And its claimed to be implictly 100% working no tampering, spyware, whatecv

[zinc oracle]

Go for a pixel 6

[gilded quest]

I'd get him an iPhone SE 3

Unless he's used to android

Pixel 6a can probably be had cheap used

[full fossil]

isnt the se 3 the size of an iphone 7

[steep girder]

Yeah but w phones that last stock can easily be the crappy returned ones. Even official refurbs have something wrong with them very often lmao

[gilded quest]

Yes.

[full fossil]

he cant see that good and will need something a tad bit bigger

[gilded quest]

Ah

[full fossil]

comeing from someone who also cant see good and have the text size at max on my 7

[gilded quest]

S20FE or S21FE

[steep girder]

Like half price s20 probably not because nobody bought it yet. Id bet anything something wrong w it

[zinc oracle]

I have s21 currently

[full fossil]

ill look at those two

[zinc oracle]

Better

[ionic abyss]

swappa ia a wel known site

[full fossil]

he doesnt really have a brand prefrence, i bought him a cheap smartphone last year because they stopped making this flip phone he liked after it broke

[ionic abyss]

well*

[steep girder]

Honestly smartphones are a rip

[full fossil]

you got to have them nowadays

[steep girder]

Well yeah thats the very thing. But when you go to pick one, the prices are insane or theres not even much choice in terms of features

[full fossil]

you could be me and be rocking an iphone 7 and get a brand new apple watch like a dummy

[steep girder]

Literally the blueprint is new company makes awesome entry to smartphone market. Theyre like twice as cheap at least than the other usual brands

[gilded quest]

Pixel 8 Pro

[full fossil]

tfw your watch has better processing power than your phone

[errant mesa]

Howdy

[steep girder]

Then they get crappy over time because its necessary to copy samsung and apple for whatever reason

[zinc oracle]

♥️ LG Wing ♥️♥️

[steep girder]

And at some point the price matches apple n crap too

[gilded quest]

Something something march of time

[full fossil]

i dont even use it for the time

i steady use the flashlight on it

[steep girder]

Like I mean OLED screen is expensive. If you can live without it and manage to find a fitting phone with ips lcd or somn... big money saved lol

[full fossil]

you have no idea how handy it is

its not like a real one, but when im checking pupils or trying to find the blood o2 checker thing it comes in clutch

[errant mesa]

I want a LG wing smart watch

[zinc oracle]

That'd be fire

[gilded quest]

Is it?
I remember Samsung announcing about a decade ago that their manufacturing reached price parity for LCD and OLED at 5" size

Like sure, LCDs have also gotten cheaper since then, but so have OLEDs.
Both types absolutely have different quality tiers.

It's more like high quality panels are expensive and low quality ones are cheap, regardless of panel type. (At smartphone sizes)

[steep girder]

Yeah so their LCD finally went up in price to match OLED

[gilded quest]

You can find OLED on some cheap af phones

[steep girder]

I mean yeah I only had one phone with ips since a while. It also didnt have a bunch of other crap tbh. Barometer, iris, fingerprint i dont remember

[gilded quest]

Last LCD phone I had was 2013-2015

[magic crown]

kinda want to get a pixel again

but gotta say, haven't had the best luck with the past few

[steep girder]

NFC might have been missing. It came w miui so i had to wait 2 or 4 weeks after registering on chinese site to unlock bootloader lol. But then i read about a flaw and somehow skipped delay

Those 2 weeks i would have not used phone bc miui even official lmao

But idk it was fairly recent snap dragon with 4 or even 6 gb ram. The chip itself wasnt the high end. 625 i believe

[gilded quest]

They've been great for me

[steep girder]

And 6gb was pretty amazing at the time. Not even samsung galaxies n crap for twice the price had as much heh

[full fossil]

i want a new phone but at&t tried to screw me and i havent gotten a new one out of spite

[gilded quest]

Man I miss old contract pricing

Flagship devices were like $100-$200 on a 2 year contract

[median holly]

Is there a way to know if your merch message showed up or something?

[steep girder]

Perf-wise the chip wasnt the best performing but honestly even gaming... at the time you can play everything just fine. I cant even recall a game that needed sd830 or similar perf. Which was also out at the time

[golden talon]

at&t is goated wtf

[gilded quest]

Verizon is goated wtf

[full fossil]

those ass holes said i could get a free phone, but it was only going to be free for like 2 months

i am on first net so i have the best plan

i get priority over all you guys in the us

[golden talon]

they’re both ass

[gilded quest]

Verizon best of all time

[golden talon]

5G+ is hard

[median holly]

T-mobile OP

[gilded quest]

Yeah but at least Verizon's network is reliable while they're screwing me in the ass

[full fossil]

and my phone uses any tower with the best connection

[gilded quest]

Cope harder

[golden talon]

AT&T screws me in the ass for less money

[steep girder]

Imagine actual free smartphones lol

[shut lichen]

as a non-american, all of america's providers are ass.

[median holly]

I have a 3 megabit connection bruh

[gilded quest]

Look, at least we aren't Canada

[bright plume]

Can confirm

[gilded quest]

Bruh

[steep girder]

Actually canada used to be insanely gulag for this stuff. But a bunch of years ago they somehow surprised me by making laws against carrier bloatware

[gilded quest]

I have no idea how much my Verizon plan is
My parents still pay for my cell coverage
I think they forgot I was on their plan

[full fossil]

i just started paying for my own

[gilded quest]

They also pay for my car insurance since I'm grandfathered in and my car is uninsurable

[steep girder]

And also legally they have to take of carrier lock if they put one. You have to ask them and they cant turn you downбфз

[gilded quest]

Although I need to start paying them for my insurance amount soon

[steep girder]

lmao*

[gilded quest]

Fuckin stupid ass kia

If I want to get my own insurance I can only get injury

Or pay like $500 a month

[full fossil]

i pay 150 for everything

becuase i had to finance a car

they got me by the balls for 600 a month now with insurance

[gilded quest]

150 for insurance and financing?

150 for every what thing

[full fossil]

no thats just for the insurance, the car payment is like 520 and some change

[gilded quest]

Ah

[full fossil]

no it was 420 and i just make 500 payments

[gilded quest]

I think my [grandfathered] insurance is pretty reasonable

[full fossil]

something like that

[gilded quest]

But I have a 2013 Kia soul with no immobilizer so a toddler can steal it

[full fossil]

dont get allstate they will screw you

[gilded quest]

Which means nobody will insure it

[gilded quest]

We got state farm
Sadly no calls from Jake ever :(

[full fossil]

you dont even have to be a constomer for you to get screwed by them

[gilded quest]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-state-farm-khakis-jake-from-state-farm-polo-gif-14368624

[full fossil]

this guy ran a stop sign all over my ass and allstate said "we think you could of prevented this accident get bent loser"

[steep girder]

I mean where I am at least liability insurance is legaly mandated. But you don't have to pay for it or even get it. This method works until you drive up to the first police officer though

[full fossil]

totalled my car

[steep girder]

Or get in a serious accident

[gilded quest]

Is liability the injury stuff?

[full fossil]

yes

[steep girder]

Well the most basic autoinsurance

[full fossil]

its only the stuff you are liable for

[steep girder]

It covers everybody else lol

[gilded quest]

Okay. That's all most insurances would cover me for

Since my car is so easy to steal

[errant mesa]

Why does discord ignore mentions when you click them on mobile 😭

[gilded quest]

So if I get in an accident it's gonna be totalled

Oh well

[full fossil]

no

[gilded quest]

Shame since it's been otherwise a fantastic car

[steep girder]

Idk about injuring pedestrian. I mean whether or not your insurance covers their wheelchair for the next 50 years lol...

[full fossil]

same thing with my elantra

[gilded quest]

I just won't get in an accident

[full fossil]

fantastic car, just fixed it from creaming a deer on the road and then i get int othe accident

[steep girder]

and just because youre covered doesnt save you from like criminal negligence which you could be charged with in some cases

[gilded quest]

You did what to a deer?

[full fossil]

i sent that bitch into orbit

[steep girder]

Like fair point: how did you run them over? I wasn't looking forward. Oh true. Put your hands behind your back sir

[gilded quest]

creaming
🤨

Sounds illegal bro

[full fossil]

the dumbass ran off the road, stopped, turned around and ran into me

i shot it too with my glock, mostly cause i was mad

[gilded quest]

Least angered American

[full fossil]

told the trooper i was just putting it down

[steep girder]

Lol creaming a deer. That's impressive if creaming one is how I imagine it

[gilded quest]

Very impressive

[steep girder]

Once somebody like 2 cars ahead hit a deer. I couldnt see right away looked like some cardboard box or some sht. Then I thought it was a person maybe. Nope. It was a deer with its side literally smashed in. Still alive. Messed up

Guy in front barely dodged it. It kind of moved to the side. We stopped to look. I make eye contact with it and out of nowhere it starts trying to run again. I was like go go go. It almost charged into the side of our car...

Guy who hit it literally drove off. Everyone did. Kinda irresponsible in hindsight

[full fossil]

nah

those fellas in the green pants want your deer tags or want to bust your balls for killing a deer out of season

[steep girder]

Lol. Well Canada jokes aside, I'm sure there's a fine at least. Kinda makes sense though. You VDM'd a deer with your car and somebody has to come and clean like 400lbs carcass off the road so that cars can drive through lmao

Also maybe because nobody reported it guy shows up and nobody told him it could still be alive idk. Walks up to it and gets kicked in the head. I think that could even kill someone, right? I doubt anyone with that profession walks up to a large animal and assumes it's dead tbh. I wouldn't

Again, its side is mashed in. It's practically in half. I think the car just straight up ran over it. Or it could have been one guy hit it and the one after ran it over. I remember seeing at least one car pretty mashup too. So idk about creaming one. What happened to the car lmao

[steep girder]

That too. Idk if it lived for long afterwards but somebody should have put it out of its misery at least. Laws n sht aside

Then again, it was dying panic mode. Not sure how anyone could have put it out of misery without some sort of firearm lmao. So yeah in Ontario the only legal way is if somebody is going to or from hunting trip or gun range of some sort... or a crossbow perhaps. I doubt it. Maybe run it over again if you got a titanium bumper on heavy duty truck lol

I wouldn't. If I had gun license and luckily had weapons in trunk, I'd maybe do it had I considered any of this at all. I was too shocked though. Pretty traumatic stuff. It was in a suburb of Toronto on Yonge Street. Pretty busy. By no means was it even rural area. Elk and moose n sht. They happen anywhere goes to show. Especially if you see road sign watch for deer...

Fk it's almost midnight. Peace

[iron drum]

yappin

[graceful burrow]

thank god

[lilac bear]

Canada more like worse America

[golden talon]

watch out, you don't want the apologies to start flooding in

[prime solstice]

EH BUD LEAVE CANADA ALONE

[white pawn]

LOL i quit dealing with verizon when they told me i had made a single phone call to Uganda that cost $8,729.77, back in 99 😛 they didn't have a cell phone that could make a phone call of the length needed to charge that much even plugged in, and when I pointed that out, they responded "Well, to start an investigation you have to pay the bil then file a complaint". I kept the woman on the phone so they could record me switching to AT&T, with the reason given of "Fuck Verizon, they will never see a dime"

btw, i have never known anyome in Uganda 😛

[gilded quest]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

My family has been on Verizon since the mid aughts

So far, so good

[paper temple]

what drivers do install after installing windows?

[hidden hill]

GPU, also Chipset if you're running AMD

[sharp cradle]

chipset usually isn't needed. windows usually gets that one in my experience

[sharp cradle]

my family has bounced between so many carriers lol. on verizon now and so far it has the best coverage

[ocean terrace]

Yo, how we all doin?

[sudden drift]

Well shit. Pretty sure I just found out the solution to a frequent crashing problen that I've been chasing for over a month now is my foot massager being plugged into the same breaker.

[limber marten]

Doing well rn just finished the WAN Show for this week

[ocean terrace]

That’s wild 💀

[coarse vigil]

Intel Core i9-11900KF 8x 3,50 GHz (Turbotakt: 5,30 GHz)
Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060Ti 16GB
32 GB DDR4 3200 MHz RAM Arbeitsspeicher
1TB M.2 SSD High Performance

guys this is my pc but i can only reach 400 fps in fortnite does somebody know why
???

[limber marten]

Realised I am probably gonna have to stop using my desktop PC if I intend to use it like a server (as I am rn)

[sudden drift]

"Wtf it keeps happening in the evening while I'm watching youtube on my 2nd screen"

[coarse vigil]

?

Does somebody know why

[sudden drift]

Patience

[limber marten]

Damn bro

[sudden drift]

oh just a troll

[limber marten]

400fps is a luxury for me

[coarse vigil]

But its i9 11th gen and 4060ti

[hot mulch]

sure i guess

[sudden drift]

The fuck you need over 400fps for?

[hot mulch]

theres a 530hz monitor

[limber marten]

I don't even use the full 144hz of my monitor

[coarse vigil]

Bro ist not even stable on 240 in ranked

[limber marten]

90fps is plenty for me :)

[sudden drift]

So say that

[limber marten]

mmm I think its a bad idea to have floatplane download program running in the day

My internet is just completely throttled I love it

[coarse vigil]

Yep so what should I do

[sudden drift]

Are you running any kind of monitoring software that can show you temps?

overclocking?
MSI afterburner

[coarse vigil]

No

[sudden drift]

I think anyone would vouch that downloading afterburner is a safe way to monitor your GPU reliably even if you don't use overclocking features

[fierce moth]

could just be ur shitty internet

[coarse vigil]

I live in 🇩🇪 beo

[fierce moth]

so?

[sudden drift]

fps wouldn't be shitty internet unless they're streaming the game in

[fierce moth]

400fps isnt the problem

[coarse vigil]

I have normally 0 ping

[sudden drift]

Europe is very server heavy and ping =/= FPS

they wouldn't be seeing visible FPS meter fluctuations from their network

[coarse vigil]

Now even stable in ranked

[fierce moth]

maybe just lower your settings

[coarse vigil]

On 240

I did

And 400 is nothing for this pc

[sudden drift]

This is for sure hardware somewhere

do you have a ups?

backup battery power supply

[coarse vigil]

Yep

[sudden drift]

And it wasn't just like 70 euros from alibaba?

[coarse vigil]

No bro its from a germany website its cold OTTO

[sudden drift]

What brand is it

[coarse vigil]

Megaport

[sudden drift]

Have you benchmarked your GPU and CPU?

[coarse vigil]

No

[sudden drift]

So I hate to recommend this website

but go to userbenchmark.com and download their benchmark program

That site is useless for biased comparisons but it will tell you if any of your components is running worse than average benchmarks

[coarse vigil]

Okay but can this damage the pc?

[sudden drift]

No

[coarse vigil]

Because if didnt run like his info i will Return it u know

[sudden drift]

It just runs a series of tests for your components

let it run, close any outside programs

[coarse vigil]

Okay i will

[sudden drift]

once it's done it will open a page in your browser with infromation on how each part performed compared to others with the same parts

[coarse vigil]

Okay

Thank u for ur time

[sudden drift]

No problem. End all tasks you can before running it. Close all browsers, discord, etc.

[coarse vigil]

Okay will

I*

[sudden drift]

@coarse vigil let me know what results you get from that if you need more help, insomnia is in full effect

[lusty hearth]

just two people talking here

[sudden drift]

always room for a 3rd bb

[sudden bough]

has thought crimes

[thorny helm]

Hey, does LTT Store ship worldwide?

[vapid cypress]

Yes

But it's expensive

[shut lichen]

not really, it's the regular cost of actually paying for the shipping

[vapid cypress]

OK Jeff bezos

[sudden bough]

Same

[vapid cypress]

This is so sad

[sudden bough]

mrrr

rolls around… paws air

[vapid cypress]

Just get a cat dude no need to be one

[sudden bough]

I have 2

[vapid cypress]

Get more

[sudden bough]

I should yes

[idle sigil]

Does anyone have newegg promo codes

[idle sigil]

More cat the better

[sudden bough]

No

[sudden bough]

Yes

They go potty on things they shouldn’t though sometimes

[vapid cypress]

Untrained specimen

[dusty cloak]

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aerocool-falcon-v2-mdi-tower-tempered-glass-black-ca-23e-ae.html?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA04arBhAkEiwAuNOsIsuFD_fQaRxtC2j0wdYNN9E2UVHFPpF8BoUsk5ueLOEmb-55ZbTMABoC2GkQAvD_BwE is this a good case?

[idle sigil]

Very true lol

[idle sigil]

That’s nice for 40

[dusty cloak]

Should i get it then?

It does seem pretty nice

[elfin orchid]

i am a theif

[crystal willow]

what did you theif?

Guys how stupid would a big case look with a small matx mobo with no gpu?|

[shut lichen]

very

[crystal willow]

Why tf are matx more expensive it is less metal

its 2x more

[thorny helm]

thank you!

my problem is only DHL ships here now cause of war

lets see if there's an option

oh yeah i actually bought an LTT water bottle before and completely forgot lol

[carmine stirrup]

So true! Itx is even worse

[shut lichen]

lower production volume, more work required to fit things on a smaller board

[carmine stirrup]

Speaking of matx, I got this gigabyte matx board on a black Friday sale. It's 12-14 Gen Intel, so theoretically new, but has the following I/O

Ps/2 mouse
Ps/2 keyboard
Dvi video
VGA video
HDMI
Display port
2x USB2
2x usb3
Ethernet
(And no USB c internal header)

[crystal willow]

Would i need more than 1 fan in a build with only an igpu?

[carmine stirrup]

I don't think I've ever had display port next to VGA on a mobo

[crystal willow]

1 exhaust fan

[carmine stirrup]

What's the cpu?

[crystal willow]

A ryzen 5 4600g

I might get intake fans when I get a gpu

[carmine stirrup]

It may get a little warm in there without intake, but I doubt it'll be a problem

[haughty kayak]

what is the wierd square usb cable for on my monitor?

[shut lichen]

Usb type B

[haughty kayak]

do i even need to plug that in

[shut lichen]

it's just for the built in usb hub

so no

[crystal willow]

nein

[vagrant sluice]

So tired

My cat woke me up

[haughty kayak]

should i plug it in?

oh

[crystal willow]

Are antec fans any good?

Should i get a darkflash DLM21 and buy 3 fans, or a lian lee case with 2 fans.

[haughty kayak]

can i leave my 2nd monitor on 144hz or will that cause any perfomance issues while gaming

[crystal willow]

does it look like this?

[haughty kayak]

yeah a lil bit different

[crystal willow]

Where do you want to plus it to?

[haughty kayak]

to my pc

[vagrant sluice]

It's for a dial up connection 🙂

[crystal willow]

why?

[haughty kayak]

idk if i even need that thing

[crystal willow]

oh its an ethernet?

[haughty kayak]

yeah i unplugged it

[haughty kayak]

thx

where can i send pictures

[crystal willow]

Does it look like this?

[crystal willow]

You gotta have the bread role

[vagrant sluice]

No problem. Just sign up for AOL and it should work.

[haughty kayak]

bred

[crystal willow]

hes joking

[haughty kayak]

its like this bit it has another bit on top of it

[haughty kayak]

ik

[crystal willow]

Just send a video of you finnishing a 1.5m baguette to a mod in less than 30 seconds.youll get it

[wise pumice]

noot noot

[crystal willow]

I finnished mine in 28

[haughty kayak]

AAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

i know what i will do this weekend

[crystal willow]

Or a Franzbrötchen

[haughty kayak]

u are german

[crystal willow]

No but i speak german

[haughty kayak]

same

no jk i live in switzerland

[crystal willow]

So your german

[haughty kayak]

no i speak german

[crystal willow]

Well then your german

[haughty kayak]

no im from switzerland

[crystal willow]

duetch

[haughty kayak]

deusch

[crystal willow]

Who tf called deutchland germany?

[haughty kayak]

idfk

always the amis

[crystal willow]

America wasent there when roman empire named it germany

[sudden bough]

The Germanic tribes called it Germania

[wispy marsh]

Linus: "You should totally buy a phone from a manufacturer that exited the phone market years ago. Strong recommend, let's go!" 👌

The moments why I give them floatplane and yt premium money

[sudden bough]

Or really I think the Roman’s did

[shut lichen]

heavy sarcasm

[wispy marsh]

Indeed

[sudden bough]

But the Roman’s called them the barbarians

[carmine stirrup]

The greeks called anyone who didn't speak Greek barbarians because it soundef like they were just saying "bar bar bar bar"

They also declared anyone who wore pants to be barbarians

[sudden bough]

The concept of Germany as a distinct region in Central Europe can be traced to Julius Caesar, who referred to the unconquered area east of the Rhine as Germania, thus distinguishing it from Gaul.

Yeah so it was the Romans

[sudden bough]

That’s right. I forgot about that

[sudden bough]

All the more reason to bring back the toga or kilt

[carmine stirrup]

The thing that I find funny is that they mostly used it to mock Persians, who were easily just as civilized and culturally advanced as the greeks

I wear dresses all the time and I can speak a little Greek #notabarbarian

[sudden bough]

Welp best head to dress barn for Black Friday weekend shopping

Germany,[e] officially the Federal Republic of Germany,[f] is a country in the western region of Central Europe.

So Germans call it Germany officially

[carmine stirrup]

Those hackers

[oak loom]

any way to get rid of the new pop up whenever you swap desktops

it is driving me insane

[sudden bough]

What

[oak loom]

windows update

then boom

pop up every time I swap virtual desktops

[sudden bough]

Turn off update notifications?

[oak loom]

AND IT BLOCKS CLICKS

you are misunderstanding

lemme put an image in tech chat

cant here

[sudden bough]

Google it?

Wait

That’s just a pop up showing which desktop your on

[oak loom]

never was there before

and it stays for ages and blocks clicks beneath it

I hotkey between desktops all the time so it is very painful

[sudden bough]

Idk

Do research. Report back

I have to decide if going to get donuts is worth it

I’m laying in bed and it’s cold out

[oak loom]

its a saturday so just stay in bed

sleep > donuts

[wise pumice]

crack

[sudden bough]

I’m out 😐

[vapid cypress]

I'm in

[idle nymph]

I'm in-between

[gilded forge]

if you ever feel useless, just remember: the PS Portal has an airplane mode toggle.

[ionic abyss]

I need just a super cheap set of basic keycaps

[velvet root]

just put a large led dimming sticker in my new model m so it doesn't give me surprise lasik anymore

now it's a more reasonable blue intensity

[hot valley]

I forget if there is a chat for phones.

Looking for some advice, I know computers I'm just not up to date with phones right now.

I have someone looking for an iPhone around the the $500 CAD range. Wondering what their best option would be.

I've seen the 12/13 and SE models just not sure what's best value-performance.

[wispy marsh]

What this

Is it similar to the uselessness of the Microsoft Account Login Page during a new Windows Pro setup?

[summer nova]

All depends on preference. Apple is not best value, but I personally like the OS

[crystal willow]

Rule 3!

[gilded forge]

used/refurbished. the SE3 is only 4.7in.

[ionic abyss]

Apple stinks

[wispy marsh]

Oh, in January my brother picked up a 12(256) for 380usd

Might've dropped since the shiny new Titaniums dropped

[sudden bough]

sings love ballades to the cat loudly and off key

[wispy marsh]

I've been addicted to this one song lately

[violet blade]

hey linuses, what microwave brands are good/bad? the samsung ones look cool, but not sure about quality

[wispy marsh]

Escape (Jaroslav) from Beat Saber

[gilded forge]

well, they're matte, not shiny.

[wispy marsh]

[hot valley]

Yeah I'm usually android.

Helping a relative who uses apple primarily

[hot valley]

Yeah I'm thinking Iphone 12 would probably be the pick assuming I can find one at a good price

[safe fiber]

All microwaves secretly comes from one brand. Samsung and other brands are just sub brands

[safe fiber]

I use a iPhone for its OS. Not really much other than that.

[violet blade]

is it possible to get a cheaper price if you buy directly from the secret microwave overlord?

[safe fiber]

I’ll check

Yup, somehow you can

From midea

[safe fiber]

You can from Midea somehow

[sudden bough]

Microwaves are bad

Get an air fryer

[vapid cypress]

Air fryers are bad

Get a microwave

[graceful burrow]

Air fryers and microwaves are bad get a conventional oven

[spice pine]

conventional ovens are bad, get an easy-bake.

[graceful burrow]

Easy-bakes are bad
Cook over an open wood fire

[lilac bear]

sometimes I forget how people that aren't terminally online think Elon Musk is a good person

[vapid cypress]

It was like that a few years ago

But now most people see through his bullcrap

[lilac bear]

yeah I mainly liked SpaceX and Starlink
Tesla was alright
but I don't trust Starlink at all because of him "stopping the war on Russia"

[vapid cypress]

https://youtu.be/ACXaFyB_-8s?si=2jWu1kKDkRCrfwhp

He has a lot of horrible ideas too

[graceful burrow]

We all know that look at how he's handling Twitter lol

[neon mesa]

seems fine

except the x name

like list me what function twitter degrade on after
it works the same way before and after he become ceo

i been using twitter regularly for a while, i don't notice any difference

maybe even better thanks to community notes

like, i'm genuinely curious, functionally it's the same thing

what's people mad about

other than the stupid X name

both sides are tbh

i just don't dive into politics, waste of braincells

[urban radish]

Elon Musk has done basically nothing

his team of scientists have done A LOT

all Elon does is provide the funds

[lilac bear]

found the X Premium subscriber

[neon mesa]

you definitely cannot discredit a role of a leader
we've seen what CEO changes can do to companies

like AMD lisa su

[urban radish]

true, however, some people seem to believe Teslas and Spacex's accomplishments are his

[neon mesa]

tesla is founded by somewhere else
spacex is definitely big part his thing, but of course it's all team accomplishment

[lilac bear]

Elon is too good at generating hype
so people think Elon personally designed the rockets

[urban radish]

sure he comes up with some ideas, but the scientists are the ones who turn it from theoretical into practical, not him

[neon mesa]

though elon himself never said it's entirely his hard work
the fanatic fans do

[lilac bear]

what are you then? a simpleton lover?

[neon mesa]

though still you can't entirely discredit the leaders of companies
it's both the team and the leaders work

a discoordinated team is as good as useless

a leader without a team is also useless

[spice pine]

ew, Elon 🤢

[urban radish]

Elon couldve kept his much more covered reputation if he just didnt try to connect with young people so much and try too hard to be funny

[neon mesa]

being a hater is about as stupid as being the fanatic fans
waste of precious energy either way

[spice pine]

I'm just tired of seeing his stupid name and face everywhere. I don't care about the guy at all.

[neon mesa]

well if you don't care you wouldn't be devoting energy into being a hater yes?

[neon mesa]

politics, that's why

like kevin o leary said, stay the fuck out of politics

[urban radish]

saying "ew" isnt really devoting energy

thats like the least amount of energy you could use whilee showing your opinion

[neon mesa]

it's not a lot of energy in a literal sense
it's a waste of mental energy to be so worked up over someone you don't know personally

[spice pine]

If you saw a pile of dog poop on your walk to work every morning, and you said "ew" at it, and got tired of seeing it all the time, I wouldn't call you a "hater" for that lmao.

[urban radish]

they said ew, how do you think they are worked up over them

[neon mesa]

i just, ignore the dog poop?

and just think of it as not existing, that's true indifference

[spice pine]

Good for you? I really don't care, you've already dug more out of me on the subject than I care for.

[neon mesa]

why would i waste energy looking at a dog poop and say ew at it when it's just there on the side of the road

if you don't care you wouldn't be talking about it

[spice pine]

God, you're obnoxious.

[neon mesa]

the opposite of love is indifference not hate afterall

[urban radish]

you're literally dragging them into the conversation

[spice pine]

Block and move on

[neon mesa]

cool

not a border crossing, don't need to announce it

[lilac bear]

isn't you saying this technically a waste of energy

the punchline

[tame pike]

been following this for a bit, what a fun conversation 🗿

[neon mesa]

There's no emotion in my messages

[lilac bear]

damn we got an AI in chat

[neon mesa]

i'm just spending time at midnight cause i have nothing to do

[lilac bear]

so edgy "I have no emotion"

[tame pike]

nah a serrated blade is edgy 🗿

[spice pine]

this is why I avoid public-chat so much

[neon mesa]

how is not putting emotion in my messages edgy

do i need to be angry at all time?

[lilac bear]

now thats kinda depressing

[neon mesa]

as i said, i'm just bored at midnight
i don't need to invest a lot in it

[lilac bear]

you did use energy to type on a keyboard though

[urban radish]

someone says ew = wasting energy
making an argument as to why thats wasting energy = not wasting energy

[neon mesa]

yes, couple joules of energy to my fingers
but as i said, i'm not emotionally invested in this

there's no energy loss mentally

[brittle cloak]

Hmm I think they have you @neon mesa

[spice pine]

why is this still going on lmfao

[neon mesa]

i'm just chilling messing around in VR lol

[brittle cloak]

The person who does not care what others thinks does not take the time to explain that to anyone.

[urban radish]

but clicking 2 keyboard keys in somehow invested in it?

[neon mesa]

i'm just bored, lol

i also never said i don't care

[brittle cloak]

Yes though I thought the concept might translate 👍

[lilac bear]

so emotionally empty so edgy so cool so emo

[neon mesa]

whatever you think man

[quiet mural]

Is 81,683 a good antutu score

[lilac bear]

ah ha yes I got a sliver of emotion from you

[neon mesa]

huh?

honestly what are you even aiming for here

[lilac bear]

same as you

I am bored

[neon mesa]

cool

[lilac bear]

k

[cunning kiln]

Linus just made a vid on taobao, I bought a case from there a week ago 😂

[wispy gale]

Anyone else see this: https://www.hardwaretimes.com/intel-arc-a770-16gb-is-now-faster-and-cheaper-than-the-nvidia-rtx-4060-with-2x-memory/

I can't fathom how an A770 is faster than a 4060. Anyone here try both and can weigh in on this?

[lilac bear]

nvidia is only good if you buy the top end GPU, the XX90 series

[graceful burrow]

The 4060 can barely beat the 3060 lmao

[neon mesa]

the power of fine wine

though fine wine is a bad thing
caues it means you fucked up big time at launch

[graceful burrow]

Nvidia's drivers don't improve performance over the lifetime of the card like it does intel or amd lol

I mean it does

But not like
drastically in most situations

[neon mesa]

nvidia cards are already at their true potential at launch
mostly

[graceful burrow]

Yeah it's just too bad their lower end's true potential is ass

[wispy gale]

I was thinking about the upcoming graphical update and system requirement changes for Final fantasy XIV. My wife's computer has an rtx 2070, so she's going to be fine, but my brother has a 1650. If the a770 has really good performance, that appears to be a very cost-effective upgrade.

[graceful burrow]

I would not recommend first Gen Intel gpus unless you seriously know what you're getting into

It's drivers have some quirks that will throw off and upset users not ready for them

They're fairly stable now but you'd be better off buying some amd 6000 gpu if you want value

Doesn't sound like your bro needs cuda or rtx so no point in paying the green tax

[neon mesa]

judging from die size and synthetics though A770 true potential should lie at the 3070

[wispy marsh]

I have a 2nd gen intel gpu, is pretty good

[wispy gale]

I had a Ryzen 9 5900X and a 2070 Super that I was starting to have random black screen lockups on. I upgraded the video card to a 7900 XTX, and the problem changed from black screen lockups to random reboots. So I upgraded the motherboard RAM and CPU as well to a Ryzen 7900x3d. All of my problems are gone now (computer running solid), but I'd really like to reuse that expensive hold hardware if there's any way to do so. Based on the fact that replacing the video card did not fix the problem, I kind of think the 2070 super might be okay.

[graceful burrow]

It is around there in some situations

[graceful burrow]

Battlemage has not released

[wispy marsh]

2nd gen cpu's igpu

[graceful burrow]

We aren't talking about those

Your joke sucks

[wispy marsh]

Gottem

D:

[graceful burrow]

"I was only pretending to be stupid!"

[minor vale]

yo is the i7 9700k a good cpu? thinking about saving up for it because my current one is kinda sucking

[vapid smelt]

Well technically this is 2nd gen sorta https://youtu.be/um-1fAVU1OQ?feature=shared

[graceful burrow]

Don't upgrade to 9th Gen, it's super not worth it

12100f beats it in gaming lmao

[wispy marsh]

Nothing fixed it? RAM voltage, PBO, RAM slots, BIOS versions

[wispy gale]

Long story short, The a770 has a very attractive price if my 2070 Super ends up having hardware problems after all. And I just wanted to get some other input before I spent any (more) money. I appreciate the feedback everyone, thanks!

[vapid smelt]

The i7 9700k is one of the saddest i7s since it has no hyper threading

[wispy marsh]

All to upsell the 9900k

smh intel

[minor vale]

im kinda budgeted and i currently have an i5 9400f so i'm just looking for an affordable option

don't really wanna go above $300

[graceful burrow]

Not to mention worthless ram speed limitations if you don't have a z series board

[wispy marsh]

13100 lol

[graceful burrow]

Bet you can get a 12100f and a board for under 300

[wispy marsh]

Woah

[wispy gale]

@wispy marsh I spent like 4 months troubleshooting the thing off and on, and finally spent an entire weekend before upgrading doing serious troubleshooting. I even hooked up in oscilloscope to the power leads on my power supply to make sure that that wasn't the problem. I tried everything including underclocking the CPU and swapping RAM. I was unable to identify any actual faults, so at a frustration I just bought a whole new computer essentially by replacing all the parts inside. 😕

[minor vale]

think i could dm you my specs and you could check it out?

[wispy marsh]

I wonder if the parts started working for the users your sold it to

[graceful burrow]

I think you can't, so don't
I don't do personal tech support unless you're payin premiums

[minor vale]

right

[wispy marsh]

That reminds me

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R9cYQP then reuse your ddr4

[wispy marsh]

My 5800X3D was somewhere around $330~$350

[wispy gale]

@wispy marsh oh I'm not selling or giving away the old hardware that I was having problems with. The last thing I want to do is cause frustration for somebody else. The old motherboard CPU water block RAM power supply and video card are all in their original boxes in my storage room just in case I ever need them in the future.

[minor vale]

i had some random dude in a server build my entire pc for me a few years back lmao

[graceful burrow]

Honestly huge upgrade lmao

[wispy marsh]

Throw on an air cooler and there's a plex server

[lilac bear]

A770 is great for the price unless you need to play any old ass games

[wispy marsh]

Also, old? Those are extremely capable parts

[prime solstice]

No

[graceful burrow]

Don't bother he's been "trolling" in other channels for a bit

[wispy gale]

@wispy marsh That's not a bad idea honestly. I did consider using it just to encode my Linux ISOs, but my new computer is more than twice as fast as that. I have a Synology disk station that I use for serving my Linux ISOs, so I do all of my compression up front into the formats I want and then copy them to the disk station. No real-time encoding required.

[prime solstice]

Oh ik

[minor vale]

btw i have a gtx 1660 super, not to sure if that matters but i'm not really looking to upgrade my gpu at the moment

[prime solstice]

I finally got the tracking info for my steam deck

[vapid smelt]

12600kf cost less than the 12400f

[polar fern]

Drank too mich water

[wispy marsh]

What if... detect filetype in directory, compress, wake synology and send

use smb to throw stuff onto it from your ryzen 7000

[vapid smelt]

Don't drink Mitchs water

[wispy marsh]

Automatic compression!

... I haven't backed up my stuff in a while

[vapid smelt]

<@&750150305383186585> would

@full fossil

They have logs potato

[wispy marsh]

imagine server mods not having server logs

Someone's going to pay for this kind of perms mistake~

[wispy gale]

@wispy marsh I could do that, but all of my Linux IOSs come from physical Linux disks that I own, so they only need to be processed the one time, then they can be read any number of times without needing any real time compression.
I also record a lot of video from my gaming, and being able to capture in AV1 is really nice. All of my video gets encoded to av1 now instead of HEVC that I used to use.

[wispy marsh]

Not bad! I use my two other servers for other tasks. One's for vpn, homeassistant and dns filtering, the other is a WoL proxmox server that houses some vms and my samba backup.

The proxmox runs a 2600 which I almost can't find a motherboard for, anymore

[steep girder]

Hi

[graceful burrow]

Ah rip

[steep girder]

[graceful burrow]

Nah seriously

[steep girder]

Dw

[graceful burrow]

Time for pub chat to become uninhabitable