public-chat

[harsh quartz]

And? I don’t fly planes but I can still buy 1/100th of a Cessna

[vapid cypress]

I will burn you

[harsh quartz]

You wanna go down this rabbit hole again?

[vapid cypress]

Yes

[harsh quartz]

I will burn your cat

[vapid cypress]

[sudden bough]

Do you have something like them?

It’s just a rich person pissing contest

[urban thistle]

Sounds like someone has done the research into Stocks

You don’t need a lot of money to do stocks

[carmine stirrup]

Yeah, you can play stocks and make $ with a pretty low investment

[sudden bough]

cool, since yall have so much monies, ill give you my student loan info and you can flex your earnings and pay it off

[orchid walrus]

Just over an hour until steam servers take a dookie in their pants

[vapid cypress]

Mrbeasssst

[orchid walrus]

Steam deck oled looks lit

[vapid cypress]

I already have a steam deck I don't need another one

[gilded quest]

Gimme

[vapid cypress]

No

[orchid walrus]

Same. But I need that OLED display

I'm selling my OG xD

[vapid cypress]

[orchid walrus]

In a rhythm gamer. 90Hz is a game changer

[gilded quest]

I have eyes
90Hz is a game changer

[orchid walrus]

I could live with everything at 60fps except rhythm games

[gilded quest]

I need a 240Hz smart watch

[ancient void]

Which keyboard should I get?

[night heron]

real

[ancient void]

https://www.amazon.com/EPOMAKER-Gasket-Like-Swappable-Programmable-Compatible/dp/B0BGX81N96?crid=2EMTC8KIYANFL&keywords=Epomaker+GK75&qid=1684781168&s=electronics&sprefix=epomaker+gk75,electronics,80&sr=1-3&ufe=app_do:amzn1.fos.006c50ae-5d4c-4777-9bc0-4513d670b6bc&linkCode=sl1&tag=ctrnextgen-20&linkId=cc42d0682c7c0357a1bc9a99cd4a1fcc&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

[vapid cypress]

The good one

[night heron]

apple watch ultra in a couple years

with microled display

[gilded quest]

1-240Hz watch when

[ancient void]

https://www.amazon.com/EPOMAKER-Gasket-Like-Swappable-Programmable-Compatible/dp/B0BGX81N96?crid=2EMTC8KIYANFL&keywords=Epomaker+GK75&qid=1684781168&s=electronics&sprefix=epomaker+gk75,electronics,80&sr=1-3&ufe=app_do:amzn1.fos.006c50ae-5d4c-4777-9bc0-4513d670b6bc&linkCode=sl1&tag=ctrnextgen-20&linkId=cc42d0682c7c0357a1bc9a99cd4a1fcc&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

[orchid walrus]

Get a keychron

[vapid cypress]

I need a 500hz 500fps fridge

[orchid walrus]

Need myself that 360hz phone

[vapid cypress]

So I can run minecraft and have food infront of me

[ancient void]

No they don’t have any aesthetic

[gilded quest]

Better than red dragon

[orchid walrus]

What you smoking. They do have an aesthetic

[graceful burrow]

You should ask in #peripherals I bet they'd know

[ancient void]

Send me the link

[orchid walrus]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v2-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=40196919459929

[ancient void]

Does it have rgb

[orchid walrus]

Yep

And it runs QMK

[past locust]

I love Linus please marry me

[ancient void]

What’s q mk

[gilded quest]

Just buy a Keychron

[orchid walrus]

The firmware

It's open source and super customizable via the VIA web app

[balmy anchor]

hopefully oled deck launch goes good and i can buy one in 3 weeks

[orchid walrus]

10 minutes until server implosion

[thin fjord]

can vouch my epomaker has been a headache trying to set up custom lighting profiles

[bleak dome]

why whats happening

[orchid walrus]

Steam deck oled

Launches in a few minutes

[bleak dome]

aah i was hoping it was secret shopper xD

[lavish elm]

anyone know any monitor stands that are just legs and are vesa mount supported? i want something that is not too deep, cos the monitor i am using (cooler master something something) has the deepest stand ive ever seen

[graceful grail]

Its not working wtf

It says to join a waitlist

what is the waitlist?

[graceful burrow]

You thought you'd just be ordering today? Lol

Join the wait list, when it's your time to order you will get an email

[graceful grail]

How do I join the wait list?

[thin fjord]

waiting

it'll go live sometime between tomorrow and the next 2 years and only then can you buy that thing you wanted

hope you remember to buy keycaps at the same time

[graceful grail]

you wait for the waitlist? lol

[vapid cypress]

Bro doesn't know what waitlist is

[graceful grail]

Well I assumed you would "join" the waitlist so they know who to send an email to lol

[digital prairie]

checkout is predictably a fun game of "when will the server let me proceed to the next step"

[graceful grail]

Ah alright. So you join the waitlist by having the steam deck in your cart?

Correct?

Now its working

[digital prairie]

Working is a strong word

[graceful grail]

Well.. more working than it was a second ago

[young marsh]

yea kinda just stuck on the shipping info

[graceful grail]

Not for me..

Something Went Wrong
We were unable to service your request. Please try again later.
E502 L3

[digital prairie]

Shipping info hell, let's goo

A message of culture

[wraith siren]

"Something Went Wrong" gang checking in

we love this

[young marsh]

yup thats what i am getting

[graceful grail]

It finally worked and am now on shipping

[wraith siren]

And shipping is where you will stay

[graceful grail]

AYYY I BOUGHT IT YESSSS

[young marsh]

WWWWW

[graceful grail]

I finally got to the last step after spending 4 years spamming it

[wraith siren]

bruh you got so lucky damn

[graceful grail]

Oh my god

[graceful grail]

I guess this guy has jno idea what he was talking about

[graceful burrow]

You were waiting, right?

[graceful grail]

I never got an email lol

[graceful burrow]

You didn't get an email when you ordered?

[graceful grail]

I mean

[digital prairie]

There's a new hell after shipping

[undone thorn]

Man I've been stuck in the first hell of shipping since 12 on the dot

[graceful grail]

That's why I added $600 to my steam wallet before

[wraith siren]

That was a good call

[digital prairie]

You can do it brothers

[lethal frigate]

Even with the wallet funds added I'm stuck in "Payment Info" hell lol

[undone thorn]

HOW DO I get past the first level, is there a cheat codd?

[sour orchid]

The Konami code

[lethal frigate]

There is but it's less "Up up down down" and more "press Continue 60 times"

[graceful grail]

Probably can get to the last page with API calls but I havent tested

[plucky flame]

purgatory pt2

[wraith siren]

Got my order in, godspeed gamers. Be persistent

Bought with a debit card and it worked fine

[prime solstice]

Idk if I should get myself the lcd or the oled for a birthday present for myself

[digital prairie]

Honestly, slamming those next step buttons for a thousand dollar purchase is spooky as hell

[plucky flame]

and it is out of stock

[sour orchid]

It's out of stock

[undone thorn]

BULLS

[sour orchid]

Thank you Steam, very cool

[undone thorn]

been at it since I was on time, I hate lotteries..

[prime solstice]

Atleast valve is doing one deck per person

[plucky flame]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-gone-gif-4104229

[prime solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-gone-gif-4104229

[lethal frigate]

Well I'll have the funds in my wallet for when Deckard finally releases lol. Congrats to those that snagged one o/

..pranked? I kept clicking and got through lol

[wraith siren]

Did valve say how many units the LE was limited to?

[undone thorn]

I'm still clicking, still can't get past the first one, think it's over for me

[lethal frigate]

shows as "Buy Now" again on the store page too

[plucky flame]

cant even get past the payment method for the regular oled

[undone thorn]

WAIT HUH

I GOT THROUGH to phase 2

[plucky flame]

the limited edition is sold out bud

[digital prairie]

Hold strong, brother.

[lethal frigate]

I believe in you 🙏

[lethal frigate]

it said that for a minute but it's flipped back to not now, my order went through after I got a bunch of out of stock errors

[undone thorn]

It did dupdate

[digital prairie]

There is a very real chance that units are held while people are actively checking out (not in cart) for a specified amount of time.

[undone thorn]

on a different page to Buy Now

alrr lets see if I get past 2

[plucky flame]

oh nvm

i got it lol

[undone thorn]

I DID

[digital prairie]

Hey, my 3d down jacket is at the door. Looks like this is a week of punishing my wallet.

[plucky flame]

i did have to use cc instead of paypal

[undone thorn]

same I ddid it!!!

thanks for the fun yall

[digital prairie]

Good launch. Successful purchasing.

[plucky flame]

time to order another ptm7950 sheet

[undone thorn]

what a scare - now back to sleep

[digital prairie]

Time will tell if the smoky case was worth the extra $$

[plucky flame]

it will definitely have higher resale value when steam deck 2 comes out

[lethal frigate]

we love seeing actual humans getting these over scalper bots ❤️

[undone thorn]

Oh, I doubt it, but the price gap between that and the normal 1TB OLED was only 30?

Not much a gap, so that's nice

[wraith siren]

I'm just in it for the limited-ness

[digital prairie]

True, my odds of reselling it at some point are pretty high. No scalp, just keeping good hardware in the hands of people that will use it when I don't need it anymore.

[digital prairie]

Yeah, I'm down bad for limited colours.

[plucky flame]

for me it just looks better limited or not

[wraith siren]

Wish they did white this time around but I think Valve said they might do more colors in the future

[digital prairie]

I've gotten two warnings from my credit card to approve this transaction. CIBC pls don't void the transaction.

[urban thistle]

Intellllll

[proper elk]

anyone knows some online jobs for students?

[sudden bough]

Do you have a webcam?

[proper elk]

why

[prime solstice]

I guess valve is working on the check out issues

[sudden bough]

🙂

[prime solstice]

Extreme rates will have some soon

[sudden bough]

ask your school to help you get an internship @proper elk

[proper elk]

they gon send me to kia or smt

🙏🏽

[sudden bough]

Perfect

[proper elk]

but i already work for volkswagen-

[sudden bough]

Oh well

You has a job then

[proper elk]

ye but not enough

we broke country

[sudden bough]

get 2 jobs. i did two jobs for a long time

[proper elk]

eh does virtual assistant need any kind of "Resume"

[sudden bough]

yes

[proper elk]

fuck

[sudden bough]

i charge for that. you have to goto my fans page

[proper elk]

wat

[digital prairie]

Don't worry, he works for noctua

[sour orchid]

Holy shit I actually got the limited one

[tender beacon]

if im getting a gaming laptop for college should i try to focus on battery life or on specs

[proper elk]

wtf

[sudden bough]

specs unless you are mobile alot

[sour orchid]

I dunno if they're doing it in waves but they do keep coming back in stock

[tender beacon]

not sure idk what my classes are gonna be

[proper elk]

specs def

[digital prairie]

Take it from a guy who went for specs over battery, go for battery.

[tender beacon]

reviews i read for this laptop are like 5 hours of life

idk if that's enough tbh

[proper elk]

yall dont got plugs there?

[tender beacon]

well im ASSUMING they do 💀

im starting college next year

[proper elk]

ye well charge it in class

[digital prairie]

Being tethered to a wall whenever you want to pull your laptop out sucks.

[tender beacon]

yeah this is what im worried abt

[digital prairie]

And being forced to sit near an outlet sucks.

[tender beacon]

idk i just dont want to bring my pc setup to my dorm so

[sudden bough]

why not

[proper elk]

idk they should have outlets even not on walls

depends on college

[tender beacon]

too big, dorm i saw was small

[tender beacon]

yeah from what i saw there's a good amount of outlets

toured it earlier thsi year

[sudden bough]

how small? i fit a full tower in an 8.5x11 foot dorm

[proper elk]

do they have outlets even on the desks or whatever theyre called?

[tender beacon]

i dont remember the exact sizing i just dont rlly want my desktop there

[sudden bough]

meh

[digital prairie]

I found it to be a huge hassle during my degree. Highly depends on the specific lecture hall you're in, and having to plug in and unplug every class is a definite hit to quality of life.

[sudden bough]

i had a macbook pro for college 😄

[tender beacon]

there's no lecture halls where i'm going, just individual classrooms

its a smaller school

[proper elk]

pls tell me not engineering

[tender beacon]

majoring in cs

[sudden bough]

no

[proper elk]

good

[plucky flame]

they released more stock of the limited edition steak deck

nvm its gone

[tender beacon]

whys it limited

[sour orchid]

Now that the store works they're probably selling out instantly

Once I saw they were back in stock I finally got through checkout with no issues

[digital prairie]

Steak deck 🤤

[plucky flame]

its a smokey transparent case with red/orange accents

[sour orchid]

Definitely a rare one

And for the price it better come with fries

[digital prairie]

It's probably not more stock. It's more likely stock that was reserved for those in checkout that didn't check out.

[restive lion]

Holy shit

[sour orchid]

I'm betting a lot of people gave up. I sure as hell just about did

[restive lion]

Rcs is coming to iPhones apparently

[sour orchid]

Especially once my card declined twice

[digital prairie]

No shot. Link?

[restive lion]

https://9to5mac.com/2023/11/16/apple-rcs-coming-to-iphone/

[plucky flame]

finally

[digital prairie]

Does that finally mean the end of green bubbles?

[restive lion]

Oh I doubt that

[plucky flame]

I can stop getting those heavily compressed images and videos from my family members

[restive lion]

The green bubbles will still be there, just less shitty :D

[digital prairie]

I hate that apple violated their own design standards for minimum contrast ratios to make it intentionally worse to read text in the green bubbles.

[proper elk]

imagine

fact is apple is the one with the green bubbles..

android can customize the bubbles as they want

[restive lion]

Just get an iPhone duh

[proper elk]

nah apple is trash

[plucky flame]

and deal with the constant spam calls and text hell nah

[wispy marsh]

Their hand's getting forced by the EU and they don't like it

[restive lion]

Absolutely

[plucky flame]

pixel phones filter all that stuff out for me its something i cant go back to

[wispy marsh]

100%, they are going to use a different shade of green or another color for RCS

[restive lion]

This is probably part of their plea to the EU about iMessage being a gatekeeper product

[wispy marsh]

If I was Apple, only iMessage gets to use blue

[digital prairie]

As a daily user of both iOS and Android, they both have their charm. But holy cow some of the basic shit iOS is missing infuriates me every time I use my iPhone.

[wispy marsh]

The rest of y'all thirdparty apps can continue to use your "filthy green" colors

[restive lion]

Tbf to the blue specifically, iMessage does have things that rcs doesn't so making them exactly the same might be confusing to the less technically inclined

[digital prairie]

Keyboard support on iOS alone can blow me.

[plucky flame]

whatsapp and line

[wispy marsh]

Especially

[restive lion]

But also like, it doesn't need to be the awful shade of green please

[wispy marsh]

Parsley green

[restive lion]

Fuck outta here

[digital prairie]

Gimme #009900

Paired with white text, gives a nice contrast without being too dark and causing the text to blow out.

[golden talon]

holy L

apple products are good
the company is trash

although that’s also slowly becoming better

[wispy marsh]

Apple's perfect. They didn't need any changes.

[proper elk]

nah

apple is trash

[wispy marsh]

It was only when the world has moved on, only then their then-status has fallen behind.

[proper elk]

their macs are decent anything else is trash

[wispy marsh]

I like the M2 Mac Pro

[golden talon]

i disagree

[wispy marsh]

The most power efficient Mac Pro ever made

[proper elk]

and only good for students and video editing

[golden talon]

airpods pros are really good

[digital prairie]

Macs, airpods, tablets (no tablet is better than an iPad)

[proper elk]

s9 ultra

[digital prairie]

Iphone hardware is all top tier.

[golden talon]

iphone vs android is a subjective battle

[proper elk]

is better than latest i[ad

[golden talon]

iphone is objectively better at being a phone though, i'd argue

[proper elk]

airpods i dont personally use

[digital prairie]

Receipts please. Android on tablet is awful, and I despise iOS.

[proper elk]

i think any of them even like samsung earbuds are trash

too overpriced

[proper elk]

nope actually androind tablets are more optimizied than ipads

[golden talon]

lmfao

[wispy marsh]

The iPhone is the best phone

[proper elk]

imagine not having fullscreen ig on ur ipad

[golden talon]

android tablets are more optimized than ipads is wild

[digital prairie]

[proper elk]

i mean

[golden talon]

insane claim

[proper elk]

go to instagram

[golden talon]

instagram being fullscreen is optimization for you?

seriously bruh

[vapid zephyr]

You know how that's like

[digital prairie]

Android has many things on iOS. Optimization is not one of those.

[vapid zephyr]

On purpose

[proper elk]

sure

the screen is way bigger

[vapid zephyr]

Yes, the iPad also has a comically large bezel compared to Android tabs

[wispy marsh]

Instagram being supported is optimisation for you

[vapid zephyr]

Why? Because it's made for fucking artists

It's always been lmfao

[proper elk]

app optimization yes

[proper elk]

but pen not included 😭

[vapid zephyr]

Ye, which is not Apple's problem

[proper elk]

yes it is..

[junior mason]

I'd love to know what the big argument for android these days is, alot of android is getting locked down, can't even access application data folder on modern android anymore,

[digital prairie]

Larger bezels on a tablet is good imo. Gotta have somewhere to grab that isn't screen.

[vapid zephyr]

Not Apple's issue if you're poor

[proper elk]

partnerships

[golden talon]

Apps are optimized way more for ios than androids in most cases

[proper elk]

ye but thats literally saying this isnt for artists

[vapid zephyr]

Nah, they're not the ones that have to fix it, cry to META

[vapid zephyr]

It's still for artists lmao

[proper elk]

uh no? theyre supposed to discuss it with meta

[vapid zephyr]

Why would they lmfao

[proper elk]

s9 ultra has bigger and better screen..smt important for artists

[golden talon]

Huawei has chinese spyware on their phones so it's androids (google's) fault

[proper elk]

thats how all mf companies work bruh

[golden talon]

Type logic

[vapid zephyr]

In Apple's eye Meta is but another customer they can dry the sweet stakes from

[vapid zephyr]

Yeaaah
No

[proper elk]

didnt huawei leave android

[vapid zephyr]

Apple doesn't have to discuss shit

[proper elk]

bro....sure

[vapid zephyr]

No, they were effectively kicked out of it lmfao

[golden talon]

Because they were ousted lmao

[proper elk]

meta is a 1t dollar company theyre not a nconsumer lmfao

[golden talon]

I'm glad I don't need to worry about spyware when I buy an iPhone

[vapid zephyr]

Nothing you say will matter to this, Apple doesn't discuss and doesn't need to discuss shit with Meta or any of their App Store developers

[proper elk]

when u dont know what ur saying:

all phone companies have partnerships where these companies will optimize their apps for the device thats getting launcher

[vapid zephyr]

If Instagram runs like shit on iOS, you cry to Meta, not Apple kek

[proper elk]

launched*

[proper elk]

nope

also did u skip the entire screen part

main reasons of even owning a tablet is the watching experience which the ipad gets destroyed in

[golden talon]

And it's almost like the company develops the app, not Apple

[vapid zephyr]

I don't care what you have to say about this, it's how Apple does it

[golden talon]

why does a partnership matter

[vapid zephyr]

Yes, because it's not relevant

[proper elk]

yup it is

s9 ultra has dex way better screen

[vapid zephyr]

The Tab S9? Probably, sure

[proper elk]

s9 ultra

[vapid zephyr]

That one is also newer, so you'll have to see until a new iPad comes out to compare

[proper elk]

ok?

well wait

[vapid zephyr]

Yeah, comparing an iPad that's several years older to a new device is kinda meh

[proper elk]

several years?

[vapid zephyr]

I'm relatively willing to bet though that the iPad is gonna be better

Apple's entire philosophy with screens is the ideal reading and watching experience

[proper elk]

id like to bet that its not

[vapid zephyr]

That's what their retina bullshit is all about

[proper elk]

but samsung make their screens

[golden talon]

how does that pose any relevance

[vapid zephyr]

Who cares if they do lmao

[proper elk]

apple is coping because of lower res

they call it retina

[golden talon]

nobody can see the individual pixels

unless you put it right in front of your eyes

[proper elk]

easy to say

[vapid zephyr]

Coping? No

They're trying to optimize shit by limiting their screen resolution to resolution that actually matters

[golden talon]

going a higher res would sacrifice battery life

[proper elk]

id like to say that samsung will never give a better display to apple

[golden talon]

im willing to bet that ipad would blow the S9 out of the water in battery life

[proper elk]

that wont be the case

the s23 ultra is same battery life as latest iphone and it has way higher resolution

[vapid zephyr]

Luckily that's now how that works

[harsh quartz]

Even if Samsung has better screens they’re asshats about the patents so fuck em

[proper elk]

also

[vapid zephyr]

It doesn't btw

[proper elk]

the new sd 8 gen 3 DESTROYS

the a17 pro for iphones

[golden talon]

they took 3 years to catch up to iphone battery life which hasnt changed in those 3 years 💀

[proper elk]

so lets wait for latest phones

[proper elk]

3 years? 💀

[golden talon]

destroys the A17 while drawing like 4X the power sure

[vapid zephyr]

Probably, that's assuming Apple cares kek

[proper elk]

go back 4 years and ull see

[proper elk]

nope ine very single thing

[harsh quartz]

Oh wow that’s a blocked word. Imagine… fanboying… for a company

[golden talon]

4 years was 2019? iphone 11 pro max?

[proper elk]

even power efficiancy

[golden talon]

the fanboyism is real

snapdragon has 0 hope of catching up to apple in efficiency

its the sad truth

[vapid zephyr]

It's less they're a fanboy of a company, they're just an uneducated Apple hater lmao

[proper elk]

just look it up

[golden talon]

i dont need to

[harsh quartz]

Na, they’re HARD fanboying for Samsung

[proper elk]

lmfao scared of reality?

[harsh quartz]

How much copium you inhaled today?

[golden talon]

just searched it up and the first result i saw said the Snapdragon is 8 points worse in battery life lmao

not to mention slower than the A17 in multicore

ouchhh

[proper elk]

nope

thats incorrect

[golden talon]

oh my even the A17 beats it in single core geekbench 6

[vapid zephyr]

TDP of the gen 3 is 12.5w, the A17 Pro does 11w
I already know that the A17 is gonna be more efficient though

[harsh quartz]

Imagine giving a shit about a smartphone cpu

[golden talon]

2931 for the A17 while 2319 for the Snapdragon

[proper elk]

1. theres an overclocked version
2. the score is 7890 for sd 8 gen 3 7300 for a17 pro

[vapid zephyr]

Uhuh

[proper elk]

single core

[leaden gale]

You do realize he said single core, right

[vapid zephyr]

Yes, because he said single core lmao

[proper elk]

ye but who cares abt single core

[golden talon]

everyone

single core is like the most important thing in a phone

[vapid zephyr]

Dw, Multi core isn't particularly better

[proper elk]

nope

[golden talon]

nope

[proper elk]

those are wrong ones then

[leaden gale]

Gee, I wonder, why would I ever care about how much work a single core can do on its own, given the fact that not every app is going to run on all cores at once

[vapid zephyr]

Sure.

[golden talon]

Lol the only thing snapdragon has on the A17 is GPU performance

[harsh quartz]

Why the fuck are y’all arguing about phone CPUs?

[vapid zephyr]

Yes, because that's how it's always worked

[golden talon]

it gets shit on in the CPU department and in efficiency

[amber gust]

Hi

[proper elk]

thats not factual

[golden talon]

it is in fact, factual

[vapid zephyr]

Snap CPUs were almost always worse than Apple's, but their GPU was better

[golden talon]

Cause its fun

[harsh quartz]

People who like apple will continue to buy apple and people who hate apple will buy anything else, performance doesn’t even matter

[vapid zephyr]

Mf you haven't provided a single source, stop yapping about facts

[proper elk]

In this benchmark battle, the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 surpassed the Apple A17 Pro in the multi-core section of the test by a score of 7494 to 7288. The A17 Pro did outscore the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 in the single-core test by a score of 2846 to 2207.

[leaden gale]

I don't like Apple as a company, but that won't stop me from recognizing the reality, which is that they make some very high performance products

[proper elk]

i canbt send pics

[leaden gale]

Is this a fucking UserBenchmark readout?

[vapid zephyr]

Skill issue

[golden talon]

Okay so multi core is about equal

[proper elk]

no

[harsh quartz]

I hate apple, I still use an iPhone :p

[leaden gale]

Cause it sounds like UBM

[proper elk]

userbenchmark doesnt have m cpus bruh

[golden talon]

still less important than single core in a phone

[leaden gale]

Yeah, no shit, it was a joke ffs

[proper elk]

doesnt sound like it

[golden talon]

smartest android user

[vapid zephyr]

Which also reflects in this

[harsh quartz]

Average apple hater

[vapid zephyr]

Snap CPU worse but GPU better, it's always been that way

The A17 doesn't even need a better GPU because of it's vastly superior OS it runs on lmao

[proper elk]

tell me whys an iphone better than XD

[golden talon]

Gee I wonder which one is more important in a phone

[proper elk]

but the fact is the iphones get recked in consistancy

[vapid zephyr]

Because it isn't, you're pulling that shit out of your ass

[vapid zephyr]

'consistency' in what

[wispy marsh]

An iPhone is better because I like it better

[proper elk]

in a recent stress test the iphone couldnt stay 18 mins running asphalt nine with lagging and dimmed on first 9 mins

[wispy marsh]

That's all I care.

[golden talon]

Here come the gaming benchmark accusations 💀

[proper elk]

while the s23 ultra the phone ran 30 mins and dimmed at 18 mins

[leaden gale]

That's a nice argument Senator, why don't you back it up with a source

[proper elk]

idk itll be "adv" its a yt vid

[vapid zephyr]

Okay, a genuine question
Why are you trying so hard to prove that Samsung is better than Apple

Literally nobody cares if it's better or not

[proper elk]

then go on with ur day?

[vapid zephyr]

Even if it isn't factual, literally nobody cares

[proper elk]

ur the one saying its not true

[vapid zephyr]

Answer the question

[proper elk]

so u care 💀

[wispy marsh]

Alright knock it off and be civil

This is ltt

[vapid zephyr]

I don't care batshit, I care about the misinformation

The performance difference I don't care at all

[golden talon]

I mean at the end of the day the iPhone is the more efficient device which is really the most important metric that matters in a phone

[proper elk]

what "misinfo"

[golden talon]

that's all there is to the story

[proper elk]

the 3nm is the only thing the a17 has over sd 8 gen 3

which causes heat issues 💀

[golden talon]

because there isnt a cooling solution in there lmao

[wispy marsh]

We need bionic back

[golden talon]

the A17 draws less power, produces less heat, it's smaller, etc.

[wispy marsh]

He'll gladly join you in your charades

[proper elk]

doesnt produce less heat

infact ud know smaller = more heat

[golden talon]

the power draw is small enough that it doesn't matter

[vapid zephyr]

First you said Samsung has better battery life, not true
Then you said the SoC is better, which is not true
Then you said the SoC runs hotter, which isn't true
Now you said the consistency is worse, which is just an utterly stupid cherrypicked example to bash on Apple

[golden talon]

smaller doesnt mean more heat, its the same amount of heat energy concentrated into a smaller surface area

[proper elk]

wow i wonder why iphone 15 has been thermal throttling in the menu 💀

[vapid zephyr]

And for ALL of your claims, you have not provided a single source

[golden talon]

bad cooling solution thats all

[proper elk]

i said the s23 ultra has had similar battery life (less by 8 mins) with a higer rest

[golden talon]

A17 still more efficient than any android on the market, harsh reality

[wispy marsh]

I bet it's the raytracing

[proper elk]

the a17 pro runs hotter and has known thermal issues

[golden talon]

Surely

[vapid zephyr]

Which was the case for the iPhone 14, yes

[proper elk]

for 15

[wispy marsh]

They reportedly had heat issues and battery issues with hardware raytracing so they axed it for the 14 Pro models

[vapid cypress]

[proper elk]

the sd 8 gen 3 has higher multi score and way faster gpu

[vapid zephyr]

Source

[vapid zephyr]

Because I know it doesn't

[proper elk]

bro the phone heats up on social media or even google

[proper elk]

💀

[vapid zephyr]

[leaden gale]

Every phone heats up when it does anything, what's your point

[proper elk]

bro. the phone has one of the worst temperature cooling.

[vapid zephyr]

Source

[golden talon]

my phone doesnt heat up doing anything except if im playing genshin or wireless charging in my car

[wispy marsh]

It depends on how mature Apple's Race To Sleep mechanism for the new iPhone is

[vapid zephyr]

Stop yapping shit, source

[proper elk]

sure its maybe caused because of tjhe chamber

[leaden gale]

My brother in Christ, would it kill you to source your claims?

[vapid zephyr]

Probably, who knows

[proper elk]

my sources are yt vids

i wont send em incase of advertising

[wispy marsh]

I think I figured you out

[vapid zephyr]

Hahahaha

[proper elk]

just google the strees tests

well on yt i meant

[vapid zephyr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq-XWcq5esE Here the test regarding to battery life btw, the 15 Plus blows literally anything away by several hours

[wispy marsh]

You're just throwing anything out here for anyone to catch due to the fear of abandonment you hold from your childhood, isn't it?

[dusky jacinth]

That's virtually any phone, which usually almost don't have any real cooling solution whatsoever because most don't need anything particularly built unless phone makers are pushing the SoCs harder than they are specced out of factory.

[vapid zephyr]

Err

[vapid zephyr]

Get the fuck out with that shit, thank you

[proper elk]

not this

[wispy marsh]

Well, if that's false then you do tou

[golden talon]

that was a low blow sif

[vapid zephyr]

I don't care, it's my source

[wispy marsh]

I know

[proper elk]

ok

[proper elk]

wow then how do other phones have better cooling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGfMmbW1j34

[dusky jacinth]

Who said any of them did?
Even mine actually doesn't have a better solution.

They're just not run hard.

[proper elk]

watch last mins of vid

ull see the diff

[dusky jacinth]

The only ones that do are "gaming phones".

[wispy marsh]

First

[golden talon]

yeah for the minority that use their phones for serious gaming lmfao

[wispy marsh]

How many vids do you have for cross reference

[golden talon]

more pointless strawmans

The cope is real

[wispy marsh]

Second, who's the intended audience for the group of phones in the vids

[proper elk]

thats a stress test

if u wont use ur phone for actual intense stuff then u dont need a high end phone

[golden talon]

so why are you blowing this up as some big thing like everyone plays raytraced games on their phone everyday or something

[wispy marsh]

Third, did the youtubers neglect to inform anything in their videos?

[proper elk]

that aint a raytraced game

[dusky jacinth]

The diff here... Is it's pointless to question, unless the phones themselves are actually melting or something.

[golden talon]

not my point but okay

[proper elk]

50c is pretty hot id say

[dusky jacinth]

50 C is very low with computing hardware, dude.

[golden talon]

95% of people just use their phone for social media, texting, calling, browsing the web, watching videos etc
All of which iPhones are more efficient and faster at. Simple as that.

[wispy marsh]

Tomorrow's wan show day btw

[proper elk]

and the battery was -13 % on s23 ultra and iphone -12% theyre similar like i said

[wispy marsh]

We get early preshow

[dusky jacinth]

Hot is literally close to 90 C and higher for processors of that sort.

[proper elk]

for a processor on a pc

[vapid zephyr]

They are, the best battery performer is also not the Pro Max kek

Ironically, the best battery performer is the 15 Plus kek

[proper elk]

were comparing best models

[wispy marsh]

I would still use an iPhone because all of my other things would keep working in the background while I'm on discord bashing people for no good reason

[proper elk]

dont u ever compare an iphone 15 + with an ultra

[wispy marsh]

Without much maintenance or initial setup on my part

[dusky jacinth]

Yeah, and same with ones integrated into a tiny plastic/metal slate.
The difference is they're intentionally made to run within strict limits for obvious reasons.

[vapid zephyr]

What are you gonna do about it? Cry me a river?

[proper elk]

exactly.

[proper elk]

no cuz ur comparing an a 16 with worse everything

ofc the smaller less powerful phone has better batt life

who wouldve thought

[wispy marsh]

The iPhone 16 is much more powerful than the S22

[vapid zephyr]

By that logic the normal 15 would also beat the Pro Max and Pro (It doesn't)

[vapid zephyr]

It's also not how that works lmao

[proper elk]

less optimizationg since the sweet spot for most users is + and pro

[vapid zephyr]

Bullshit, the optimization is the same

[proper elk]

smaller screen 60 hz lower res yes it is

[dusky jacinth]

And 50 C is pretty much within reason for a SoC die because it's hardly going to do much to the surface of your phone enough to care, unless there's like direct die contact going on or something.
And for most stuff, they don't even run that hard and aren't supposed to anyway.
If they are, then there's more going on under the hood.

[vapid zephyr]

How did the Pro Max beat the 15 then

Again, by that logic the normal 15 would beat those two as well

[proper elk]

50c is the surface temperature

[leaden gale]

Surface temperature of what

[proper elk]

i said smt u said bs so go ahead give me why its wrong

[proper elk]

of the phone

[dusky jacinth]

Of the die? The backside? The screen?

[vapid zephyr]

Hm? the reason the pro max is better is because of the adaptive refreshrate

[leaden gale]

Of what phone

[proper elk]

it takes 5 mins for 50C water to cause a 3rd degree burn

[vapid zephyr]

I don't know why I have to educate you because you obviously have no idea wtf you're talking about

[proper elk]

15 pro max

[leaden gale]

Source?

[proper elk]

backread

[vapid zephyr]

This testing video

[proper elk]

thats true i forgot abt it

[vapid cypress]

[proper elk]

their ltpo reaches 1hz

i think

[vapid zephyr]

Yes, and the normal Pro for some reason doesn't do it that well, that's why it even lost against the normal 15

[wispy marsh]

The only reason to get the Pro models this year is the special button

You can do so many things with it, like Siri

[proper elk]

crazy how even the battery performance is good only cause of the screen samsung made

[vapid zephyr]

Yes, for water, not for the tiny hotspot that you're never gonna touch consistently

[proper elk]

idk from what ive seen that spot is in a place where u rest ur hand

[vapid zephyr]

Err, cool
Doesn't change it's got better battery life now innit

[proper elk]

i said similar

and i said s23 ultra is a lil worse

[vapid zephyr]

It's got better battery life, yeah

[proper elk]

i never said it was better

and the iphone still has slower charging

[vapid zephyr]

Oh you didn't, I said the iPhone had better battery life

[proper elk]

alright unnoticeable so whats ur point

[vapid zephyr]

Yeah, because it doesn't need 120w charging with a 4000mha battery lmfao

[proper elk]

S23 Ultra has WQHD+ resolution(3200×1440), whereas the iPhone 15 PM only has 1290×2796.

[vapid zephyr]

Ye, because you literally don't notice the difference

[wispy marsh]

60hz iPhones have poorer battery life due to the static refresh rate instead of having a low vrr floor

[proper elk]

but u do

[proper elk]

lets not talk abt them for the fact theyre 60hz

[leaden gale]

Ultra high resolutions on phones are a waste of money and battery life, pixel density is already super high on those small screens anyway

[junior mason]

phone resolutions are a joke, couldnt even see the pixels on my 6s when i useto drive that -- so whats even the point of higher res anymore

[vapid zephyr]

[dusky jacinth]

Man, this argument is just making me care even less about benchmarks for smartphones now. Like... Most people don't want to or need to care about this because performance is like.... How much better do we need to have it? Till the damn thing overheats or something? Like what good is that even?

[proper elk]

my man theres A HUGE DIFFERENCE from 120hz compared to 60

and a phone at that price thats only 60hz is bs

[vapid zephyr]

Oh no, this 'argument' is just some guy doing everything in it's power to ensure dominance

[dusky jacinth]

We all don't just game and do all our computing on our phones exclusively, and those who do are doing lightweight work anyway.

[leaden gale]

My sentiments exactly. Synthetic tests on phones have always seemed incredibly absurd to pay any heed to, since 99.95% of users aren't going to notice jack shit

[vapid zephyr]

Kid you were talking about the resolution, not the refresh rate, you stupid?

[proper elk]

bro.

[dusky jacinth]

Most phones don't even have VRR either, let alone screens that refresh above 75 hz. most of the time.

[proper elk]

.

[dusky jacinth]

So you barely push much anyway.

[vapid zephyr]

Yes, you were not talking to me and I don't care

[proper elk]

a 200$ xiaomi has 120hz

[vapid zephyr]

My $180 Redmi phone has 90, ironically immediately turned it off

[vapid cypress]

[dusky jacinth]

I don't care about Xiaomi. Most people don't know about this fact or care either.

[proper elk]

ye thought u replied to other msg

[proper elk]

my mid range xiaomi has 120hz and when i changed to old 60hz i couldnt live without 120hz

[vapid zephyr]

I can live just fine without it and I've played high-end osu at 500hz

And yes, I can notice the difference

[dusky jacinth]

I lived with 30 and 60 hz. on a phone.

[proper elk]

osu 💀

[junior mason]

lol i have a 144hz display on my phone, ive locked it to 60 cause of battery life, having a phone that functions > fluid animations, (phone doesnt have vrr -- maybe things would be different if it did have that, who knows)

[dusky jacinth]

On pc, it makes sense, but on my phone it makes no difference to me.

[proper elk]

thats u the general disagrees after jumping from 60 to 120

[vapid zephyr]

Ye, it's the perfect human benchmark
If you think it's easy go ahead and give it a try

Because I know even at 360hz you will fail at the easiest of maps kek

[vapid cypress]

Ltpo displays are poggers

[proper elk]

idc much abt battery life 1. phone stays entire day without charging 2. if i needed can charge phone in 15 mins

[old yacht]

Worst Phone I had was a sony Xperia. I had to charge in water..... so it wouldnt over heat

[proper elk]

bro i play osu

[dusky jacinth]

No they don't because they don't understand what the point of that is.

[proper elk]

or played

[vapid zephyr]

I've tried all kinds of refresh rates, I'm still at 60hz

[dusky jacinth]

Which Xperia?

[proper elk]

this is wrong go say that in tech chat

[old yacht]

I dont remember the model but it was the 2017-2018 versions if I recall correct

[vapid zephyr]

What rank were you, five digit? lmfao

[proper elk]

i played for some time

then deleted

[vapid zephyr]

What, because I'm not addicted to 240hz? xD

[proper elk]

not my game

[dusky jacinth]

Ah. Yeah, I think some of the older ones did have some heating issues.

[proper elk]

120

[vapid zephyr]

Irrelevant, I can live just fine with 60

[molten drift]

Personally I prefer 60

[proper elk]

ye just live with 120 for some time

[junior mason]

never heard of that one, i usually charge mine (xperial 1 iii) while playing genshin, only time it heats up is if im under a blanket or something (not physically hot but i know the phone is thermal throttling cause of laggg)

[vapid zephyr]

It's probably the reason why my phone lasts for a week without charging

[gilded forge]

wait you charged your phone while it was in water..?

[vapid zephyr]

You act like I never had a 120hz display omfg

[dusky jacinth]

And they'll probably agree with the last part of that statement, just because most of us run our phones at 60 hz... As if we had a choice in going higher when clearly most of us don't phones that can anyway. Lmao!

[proper elk]

wow thats crazy! i charge my phone from 0-100% in 15 mins!

[molten drift]

My least favorite phone I had was my virgin mobile prepaid phone it didn't even have snake but darn it it didn't last forever.

And no camera

[proper elk]

my fav phone was the goat 3310

[vapid zephyr]

Didn't ask lmfao
I can wait half an hour for my phone to charge, I don't mind whatsoever

[proper elk]

"didnt ask"

[vapid zephyr]

Ye, did you see me asking how long it takes for your phone to charge? 🥱

[old yacht]

Yeah I put it in a bag that I vacummed shut, then put that bag in the sink full of water....

[dusky jacinth]

Okay.... And?
Most phones being released now are given "fast charging".
Even if it's not as fast, it's... Just there for when people actually care that their phone has it in any capacity. Lol.

[gilded forge]

no. never. 120Hz on a phone is fucking overkill considering that the battery will drain a LOT slower. 90Hz is sweet spot. not as jittery as 60Hz, but not as overkill and power hungry as 120Hz.

[proper elk]

iphone charges in more than an hour

[proper elk]

120hz for me runs with 12 hours screen time

without battery dying

[leaden gale]

Holy shit, that's wild\

[vapid zephyr]

It's also not at all good for the battery to blast your phone from one to a hundred within 15 minutes anyway lmao

[dusky jacinth]

So does my phone, an Xperia XA2, with quick charging features.
And I don't care.

[vapid cypress]

ltpo

[dusky jacinth]

I also don't have heating issues with mine charging unlike Elijah's did either. My condolences to him and his sanity btw.

[proper elk]

ok but im talking abt 120watts not ur qc

[vapid zephyr]

Cool story
Anyways

[old yacht]

was like a 10 min process to setup for charging lmao, run the sink, seal the bag, confirm its water tight, lower in then start charging

[vapid zephyr]

Oh god lmao

[proper elk]

reduce wattage lmfao

[dusky jacinth]

Okay, but that's a very small number of phones that can even accept that much charge anyway.

[vapid cypress]

Bro is running a nuclear reactor

[junior mason]

where are them solid state batteries with carbon nanotubes we were promised . _ .

[vapid zephyr]

And an even smaller number that can charge their phone at 120w without degrading the battery in the process lmao

[leaden gale]

It's on the same timetable as Half-Life 3

[proper elk]

ok so now

[old yacht]

Felt like it

[proper elk]

whys an iphone better

all u guys yapping abt is "battery life"

[gilded forge]

what the fuck does that have to do with this

[proper elk]

main argument is iphone vs android

[dusky jacinth]

I don't even know and I bet those will be in just either the flagship stuff or niche phone models, and cost a ton.

[vapid cypress]

If it was samsung it wouldve been in meltdown

[proper elk]

idk abt that one

wasnt it the iphone with the 50C temps

[vapid zephyr]

No, the argument is 'Uneducated kid fanboys for Samsung, spreading misinformation in the process' lmfao

[proper elk]

[proper elk]

u still never said anything abt the misinfo

[dusky jacinth]

To me, no phone is technically better.
All of them have strong points and weakpoints.
What literally matters is what works for the person buying it and why for.

[proper elk]

all u said was bs and i explained why

[vapid cypress]

I'm talking about the time when samsung phones went baloon mode

[vapid zephyr]

I explained myself already and I'm not going to again, if you're illiterate that's not my issue

[proper elk]

note 7?

[vapid cypress]

Idk which one I think it was more than 1

[vapid zephyr]

I'm not blaming anyone for mistakes, shit happens

[proper elk]

no ur the illiterate one since i replied to every single thing u said and u didnt say anything

[vapid zephyr]

Yeah yeah, if you can't argue you go 'no u 🤡'

[vapid cypress]

What

[dusky jacinth]

The bs in this argument you've been giving is about benchmarks, thermal performance, and other metrics that only a small percentage of people even care about at the end of the day.

[proper elk]

nope

i showed why soc is faster

i showed how the temps and cooling is better on samsungs

i showed how gpu is better on samsungs

oh and btw this is older phone 💀

[dusky jacinth]

Which most people these days don't even care about.

[gilded forge]

actually kinda hilarious that a fire bomb is rated the exact same as the iPhone 15.

[vapid zephyr]

I thought you meant the exploding Note 7s, but I know now what you mean

[dusky jacinth]

Which most people probablyu might think is nice and then forget about.

[proper elk]

well he absolutely does since he said "soc on iphone is faster"

[dusky jacinth]

Which hardly matters because most people don't graphically push their phones to limit anyway.

[vapid zephyr]

No, he meant the recent issue of Samsung batteries puffing up for no reason years before their advertised lifespan ends

[proper elk]

well thats the point of a flagship

[dusky jacinth]

It's faster because it's an optimization thing that Apple can afford to get away with by just having literally one or two skus for.
We all know that. What did you expect?

[proper elk]

no im pretty sure he meant note 7 blowing up idk

[vapid zephyr]

No, he didn't 🤦

[proper elk]

and the swelling batteries happens to all phones but samsungs happens faster

[vapid zephyr]

Much, much faster yes

[proper elk]

which is irrelevant cuz only happens to unused phones (for years)

if u have a phone collection remove the battery

[vapid zephyr]

No it hasn't, which is the entire issue

[proper elk]

it only happened to phone collectors

[vapid zephyr]

It's happened to unused and used phones all alike

[deft mountain]

@proper elk

[proper elk]

it never happened to a used phone as fast as unused

not even close

it happens as same rate as any other phone actually

[proper elk]

hm?

[vapid zephyr]

No, it just isn't

Stop shilling for Samsung, ffs

[proper elk]

bro 💀

the swelling battery happens for unused phones

[vapid zephyr]

Ofc it does, Samsung does it at a much faster rate

[proper elk]

if u heard smt for a brief moment look it up again then talk abt it

[proper elk]

ye if u have any technology with batteries laying arnd ur supposed to remove it

[vapid zephyr]

Yeah, there's no sense talking to you
Have fun shilling for Samsung, spread misinformation and I will just resolve the issue by calling mods

[proper elk]

u never even talked abt the misinfo

all u said was random bs that was the actual misinfo

[proper elk]

call them? ur the one that provoked this or u participated in it

i said apple is trash and yall start mad fanboying

200$ for 8gb of slow ram

[dusky jacinth]

I don't like iPhones or iOS, dude. That's why I'm on Android.

[proper elk]

ok?

[dusky jacinth]

That OS is unusable for me, someone who wants more control over what's in my phone within reason of the budget Apple doesn't even allow.

[proper elk]

budget apple?

[past kernel]

if theres one thing ive never liked, its the storage/ram prices with apple

[proper elk]

apple doesnt make budget stuff

[dusky jacinth]

Yeah.
Guess what doesn't belong in the same sentence.

[past kernel]

and the 200 dollars for 8gb of ram upgrade is the pinnacle of that

[proper elk]

fr

[restive lion]

Secondhand market is relatively cheaper

[dusky jacinth]

Yeah, but I don't care anyway.

[restive lion]

Only fools buy direct

[dusky jacinth]

I don't want or need an iPhone.

[proper elk]

"our latest chips destroys our intel competitors" gets absolutely fucking desotryed in benchmarks

[elfin jetty]

Whats wrong with samsung

[past kernel]

doesnt mean much when its paired with a subpar quantity of ram

[proper elk]

it means a lot

[past kernel]

8gb in 2023? what were they thinking

[elfin jetty]

They werent

[dusky jacinth]

On one side, while on the other side they do relatively okay, until you talk efficiency and then everything goes out the window for both AMD and Intel regardless for the performance you get.

Does it matter though? No, not really.

[prime solstice]

I want a phone that has a Intel celeron in it

[restive lion]

Duh

[dusky jacinth]

It only matters for the people who actually want to use Apple's hardware.

[proper elk]

"our os is soooo optimized we only need 8gb for the best experience, 200$ more for 16gb'

[dusky jacinth]

The rest of us don't care anyway.

[past kernel]

i mean, you can have the best processor in the world, but its gonna be bottlenecked if you have less ram

[elfin jetty]

That would legit be slower than most modern phones by a mile

[halcyon rapids]

HECTOR

LOOK AT ME HECTOR

[prime solstice]

Eh idc about phone speed

[proper elk]

yup

[elfin jetty]

Who tf is hector

[proper elk]

i think modern phones are comparable with i7 s

[halcyon rapids]

900 to 1200 when going from 256/8 to 512/16

[restive lion]

The storage and ram is absolutely the worst part

[elfin jetty]

Imagine stuffing a 14900k and a 4090 in a phone

[halcyon rapids]

hector salamanca

[past kernel]

yeah, thats appalling

[proper elk]

atomic bomb

[restive lion]

Had to convince my dad not to pick up a real cheap base model Mac mini off of marketplace

Instead he got the 512/16 for an extra hundred bucks iirc

[proper elk]

what does ur father do

[elfin jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-nuke-nuclear-bomb-gif-20734003

[restive lion]

I mean that's not really relevant to getting a home computer

[dusky jacinth]

From years ago, but who's complaining except the small percentage who accept that hype anyway?

They're fast enough for what most people do with their phones anyway.

[halcyon rapids]

isnt that the terminator movie

[proper elk]

it does

[restive lion]

No it does not

[elfin jetty]

Yes

[proper elk]

yes it does

[restive lion]

Sucks

[proper elk]

if ur father is an engineer

a mac is a NO GO

also depends on his usage

but if hes just doing some scrolling yt and bs then doesnt matter at all

[past kernel]

hey guys, we should fab our own processors, so we can remain competitive for mobile processor performance

oh and stick a whole 8gb of ram in that bad boy

[halcyon rapids]

was it 2 or 3

i forgor 💀

[restive lion]

Clearly he's not an engineer or he wouldn't have gotten a Mac

[proper elk]

apparently in signle core the sd 8 gen 3 is 25% performance of i9 13900k 😭

gets destroyed in multi tho

[halcyon rapids]

no wait 3 was the one with the man with robot upgraded body

and 2 was the one with the nuke

[proper elk]

m2 ultra for pc is similar performance to sd 8 gen 3 i believe

[elfin jetty]

[halcyon rapids]

i remember now

[elfin jetty]

Havent watched them

[halcyon rapids]

its 2

[proper elk]

dang its even better

[hot tide]

god damm, thats a hdd from 2010

[past kernel]

oh and it gets better, since the gpu memory is shared

so you probably get about 5gb usable

[proper elk]

ye thats how igpus are

from what ik they use 4gb max

so 4gb usable

[gusty portal]

Steam Deck OLED or Legion Go? That's the question. And if I want the Deck, can I get it by Wednesday?

[hot tide]

the deck

[proper elk]

i think the Legion

[vapid zephyr]

Steam Deck

[hot tide]

the experience is gonna be 10x better

[proper elk]

true

[hot tide]

windows suck at portables

[vapid zephyr]

Eh, Windows is fine now even on the Steam Deck

[hot tide]

but you gonna wait for it

[gusty portal]

I can get a Legion Go by Monday. I'd just have to drive to Best Buy

[vapid zephyr]

Doesn't change SteamOS is better, but it'll work

[hot tide]

i heard its backordered till 24

[gusty portal]

Which is backordered?

[hot tide]

deck

oled

[gusty portal]

Valve is still showing 3-5 days shipping on my end

[leaden gale]

Looking at Steam's own website, that doesn't seem to be the case

[hot tide]

yeah im looking at it too

[gusty portal]

The problem is, 5 business days is next Friday if we don't count today

[hot tide]

nvm then

[gusty portal]

And I have to leave town on Friday

[leaden gale]

Buy Legion Go and return it after trip, ez

[hot tide]

you could get it from a scalper in theory

[hot tide]

this

[gusty portal]

It's a long trip; that wouldn't work

[leaden gale]

How long

[gusty portal]

2 months

[hot tide]

in that case get it delivered where you staying at

[leaden gale]

Sheeeeeesh

[gusty portal]

I think the Legion Go's other features might be better for me than the Deck OLED's, and it'll just be better in every way except contrast ratio if Valve ever releases SteamOS

[leaden gale]

I'm sure you can use HoloISO on the Legion Go

It's what I would do, ngl

[gusty portal]

HoloISO?

[leaden gale]

https://github.com/HoloISO/holoiso

[hot tide]

basically steam os ported

[leaden gale]

Basically a community Archinstall configuration so you can run SteamOS 3 on basically any other device

(As long as it's not using an NVIDIA GPU, in which case they guarantee absolutely nothing)

[hot tide]

this could be a problem

[leaden gale]

Could be, but it seems like using the Zen kernel fixes it

[gusty portal]

The sketchiest thing about the Deck OLED is the 800p resolution. Even my phone is higher than that, and I think the tiny resolution would negatively impact any non-gaming use

[keen trellis]

Especially given my experience with 768p chromebooks

[digital prairie]

800p is completely fine for a 7" screen held at arm's length

In an either/or, I'll take 90hz over higher res any day

[graceful burrow]

you say that like 4k screens in phones matter lmao

[digital prairie]

4k phones was a bad fad and I'm glad we're back to qhd

[graceful burrow]

qhd is even questionable on most phones

[digital prairie]

I'm confident I'd get 0 additional visual fidelity on my s23 ultra if it was 4k instead of qhd

[thin fjord]

can anyone give me feedback on this monitor im looking to buy

[gusty portal]

It's not either/or. It's both/and. 144Hz (freesync?) 2560x1600 vs 90Hz static (adjustable?) 800p

[gusty portal]

who the heck said anything about uhd? My phone is 1440

[gilded quest]

You should start using your phone 2cm from your eyeballs then /s

[digital prairie]

Vrr is definitely missed here, but the deck hardware won't even run Minecraft at those specs.

[graceful burrow]

i did
i brought it up

[digital prairie]

My 5900x/3080 barely even satiate a panel like that.

[graceful burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-excited-this-guy-two-thumbs-jim-gif-14850417969904358366

[digital prairie]

Let alone a low power apu

[gusty portal]

Some games can run higher framerates, and the ones that don't have more options for non-tearing framerates

[digital prairie]

We're talking about a huge price increase, though, for a minimal benefit outside of a small handful of use cases.

[gusty portal]

1TB vs 1TB is only $100 difference

[digital prairie]

And an OLED panel with those specs will cost as much as the whole steam deck

[gusty portal]

There's the higher resolution, detachable controllers, optical sensor + mount for the right controller, included Windows license for doing real work (which alone makes up the price difference)

[high jetty]

Hey what’s a good mouse with good sensors and a bunch of programmable buttons?

[graceful burrow]

g502

[high jetty]

Cool

[digital prairie]

My man

[high jetty]

Is Logitech a good brands for keyboards too?

[graceful burrow]

its just the best mouse

[gusty portal]

Naga Trinity, G600

[digital prairie]

Fully agreed. I have four.

[high jetty]

I also have a g502

X plus

[graceful burrow]

then you dont need to upgrade

[digital prairie]

How many programmable buttons are we talking here?

[high jetty]

Oh this is just for my future reference

But about…

[graceful burrow]

the g502 wont be beat in the future

[high jetty]

Yeah

What about this glorious o thingy

[digital prairie]

If you want more, it's the naga trinity. No one else is stupid enough to put 12 side buttons on a mouse.

[high jetty]

Those look ugly af ngl

[gusty portal]

Logitech has one, the G600

plus there are a variety of cheaper brands with high button counts

[digital prairie]

Glorious software is poopy doo doo. - typed on my gmmk pro

Love the keyboard, but if I use my USB switcher while the software is running, it softbricks the keyboard.

[gusty portal]

The Glorious only has like 2 extra buttons though

[high jetty]

Oof

[gusty portal]

If you want more buttons, that's not the one to get

[high jetty]

To be fair tho, I only need 3 buttons - two on the side, one right behind the middle

[gusty portal]

That's not really "a bunch"

[high jetty]

Sorry

I just realised how I don’t need as many buttons as I thought I need

Can’t even remember half of them

[umbral sail]

apple to support rcs . lmao almost like the EU was about to force you and youre trying to come out as the good guys

[gusty portal]

RCS is trash anyway. Incredibly unsecure.

[umbral sail]

Oh I know I just find it funny that they are trying to make it like it was their idea

[ionic abyss]

Hey is $100 for a used pd4 pro and ps vr headset a good deal?

And 1 controller

[high jetty]

I find the side loading thing a bit stupid, it should at least be a setting because I kinda like not getting a virus

[ionic abyss]

Is the ps4 pro with vr and controller good for$100?

[orchid garnet]

Yoo just ordered my pc parts

[ionic abyss]

So not a good deal for a tested working ps4 pro with ps vr and a controller for $100???

[orchid garnet]

I don't know ps4 prices but that sounds like a robbery

100 is nothing for a ps4 if I'm not dumb

[ionic abyss]

The same goodwill Aldo had a xbox series x for 100

[orchid garnet]

Sounds like a good deal. Also please stop being an annoying spammer. Thx.

[leaden gale]

What Goodwill are you going to with a $100 Series X?

Surely you meant One X, right?

[ionic abyss]

Nope series x and my local good will

[full fossil]

🤨

[orchid garnet]

Sounds kinda sus

[leaden gale]

That's actually insane

[full fossil]

idk mate its 575 dollars in my country (not US)

[summer nova]

I’ll buy it from you for $150

[ionic abyss]

Sometimes you fibd I good deals

[summer nova]

Just kidding, I just hope I can fix my one X tho

[buoyant halo]

Hmm

[full fossil]

is it normal for my case fans to not spin

[gusty portal]

Sometimes

[summer nova]

They should spin on start up then they might stop

[ionic abyss]

Depends on fan or controller setup

[full fossil]

they don’t… and i can’t access the bios either because everytime i try it always just goes to the login screen

everything is plugged in properly i think

[buoyant halo]

is it normal for my heart to beat at a trillion beats per second when going on a homicide

[full fossil]

🤔

[buoyant halo]

in DayZ Like i mean that i had so much gear. Couldnt risk it all though. Sorry it came out wrong

feel bad about eating themm

now

[full fossil]

lol Doritos just dropped in my country officially

[gusty portal]

This or Legion Go... https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-tuf-gaming-a16-16-165hz-gaming-laptop-fhd-amd-ryzen-7-7735hs-with-16gb-ddr5-memory-radeon-rx7600s-512gb-pcie-ssd-off-black/6535499.p?skuId=6535499

[buoyant halo]

nice

Though i prefer crumpets and tea

makes me graze up at the sky

and think about life and this universe

[full fossil]

relateable

[buoyant halo]

yes when the night sky is clear

makes some of us think that whether we will ever make it out of this earth

the universe makes earth look like a tool shed

small and dingy

[full fossil]

yeah... luckily i dont have light pollution either

[buoyant halo]

hmm

living up at ireland was the best decision of my life

Carry on then

[sudden bough]

What

Is it nice there?

Isn’t the UK going to become a frozen wasteland when the gulf streams stops?

[buoyant halo]

I hope not

[carmine stirrup]

be a lot better than living in the nordics

[buoyant halo]

Yes quite nice here

[carmine stirrup]

but the Sahara desert also pushes a lot of hot air north, so it would still be better than being in north america

[buoyant halo]

its nice over here

[sudden bough]

Eh I live in the Midwest it’s usually moderate temperature all year round. In fact it’s getting warmer

[carmine stirrup]

sorry, I meant better than being in north america at that lattitude

[sudden bough]

Oh yeah it gets cold there. Chicago gets pretty cold too. Sometimes colder than NYC

[carmine stirrup]

Chicago gets colder than NYC all the time

london is further north than the US, tho. It's up in canada