public-chat

[scarlet finch]

bread good

hmmm try unplugging it and plugging it back in

are you sure your monitor is set to 144hz in display settings?

[young lark]

yep

[scarlet finch]

it also could be your hdmi a cable i think

[young lark]

its display port

actually i just tested it and it seems fine after restarting

[scarlet finch]

good

[young lark]

valorant at least

[scarlet finch]

try this

https://www.testufo.com/refreshrate

[young lark]

it says 144

[scarlet finch]

ok

so its fixed

[vernal holly]

Is it worth it to switch out the thermal paste on my 1660 ti?

For noctua nh1

[wispy marsh]

[vapid cypress]

[gilded forge]

bro wut

[vapid cypress]

Huawei is trash anyway

[lime mortar]

Reported

[spice pine]

To who? they’re banned in the US

[tame mirage]

Does anyone know if they are going to upload Friday’s wan show to Spotify?

It usually shows up by Monday afternoon and still isn’t there today

[bright pecan]

hello
any pc guys in here ? i need some advice between 4080 and 4090 i found 2 deals on used cases and i am conflicted

[scarlet finch]

eww NVIDIA

[bright pecan]

i am doing blendr amd is a no go

[scarlet finch]

you can use HIP on blender

get an RX 7900 XTX it is a lot more affordable than a 4080

[modest sierra]

What’s up

[scarlet finch]

the cost of living

[scarlet finch]

unless you need it for anything for ai go with amd

or if you have infinite money

[spice sand]

damn

[scarlet finch]

LMAO

[plush cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-point-debate-argument-angel-gif-17274775

wow, sadge

ahem
no no, he's got a point

[slow fern]

Do you guys think it would be a good idea to buy a macbook pro 2019 I9 16GB + 512GB for 500$ and resell it or buy 4 Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga X1 I5- 8Th gen, 16GB Ram + 250GB ssd for the same price and resell it?

[gilded forge]

are you going into psychosis?

[scarlet finch]

dont get a mac plz

[plush cloak]

yes, your about me just rick rolled me

[graceful burrow]

Bro's been asking basically the same question for what feels like three weeks now

[slow fern]

I’ve seen them going for around 1000$ on fb marketplace

[slow fern]

Its a different question now

[scarlet finch]

dont get a mac at all

[graceful burrow]

I sure did say basically

[slow fern]

Okay so ig I’ll get the thinkpads and resell them for like 200$ each

[gilded forge]

he's reselling. meaning that college freshman or sopjomores might be looking for a macbook

[slow fern]

Exactly

MacBooks sell like hotcakes

[scarlet finch]

i only got to should i buy a mac lol

[slow fern]

😭

Ebay is pretty nice for getting stuff for cheap

[scarlet finch]

im macphobic

[slow fern]

Mac’s are for some reason famous in NA compared to other places

[gilded forge]

or marketplace if you want something local

[slow fern]

Don’t know why but almost every single person in my uni has a mac

[slow fern]

Marketplace is good for getting stuff without tax and shipping

[gilded forge]

it's gen z. apple to gen z ° premium, expensive ecosystem friendly.

[slow fern]

Which is usually better compared to ebay pricing for newer stuff

[scarlet finch]

and i also have fenestraphobia

which means i hate Windows

[slow fern]

Okay apparently i cant type that word

[sudden bough]

mmRrr

[sudden bough]

rrRrm

[polar fern]

@slow fern why bother if you’re just going to resell it?

[neon eagle]

I’m trying to get the 990 pro 4tb on Samsungs website and it’s sold out

You would think the Samsung site would have their own product in stock

[slow fern]

Bother about what?

Like to see what’s better? Oh I meant to ask what would be more profitable

[vapid cypress]

Okay

[thick elm]

Does anyone remember the video that shows the new garage door setup at Linus' new house?

[crystal willow]

inflation

[umbral sail]

Anyone else have been "blocked" from reddit for a "empty user agent string" Lol

[spiral ivy]

unix timestamp about to be nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyXoKYAhs4Q

[wraith sonnet]

Question, do you need to have more DRAM than VRAM? I'm running into weird stutters on my A770 and I almost believe that's the current problem

[vapid smelt]

8 or 16gb?

[fathom widget]

https://youtu.be/yFswDJPvtPY

[wraith sonnet]

16gb

I have 16gb DRAM and 16 VRAM

[hallow plume]

anyone get blocked by reddit and unable to access it?

[summer nova]

Intel cards have some… quirks

Their drivers can be buggy like that

Almost guarantee it’s a driver issue

[wraith sonnet]

source games tend to work well, that where it's been occuring and it worked well before.

[summer nova]

Just because it worked well before dosnt mean anything lol, drivers get updated and new bugs arise

Especially with Intel GPUs

[sudden bough]

What country are you in?

[hallow plume]

hk

https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/17vba16/reddit_saying_its_blocking_me_when_i_click_on_a/

seems to be a issue from reddit

[plain garden]

Hey people

What is everyones favourite game?

[prime solstice]

Doom

[jaunty cairn]

Hello
Got a question

[plain garden]

My fav game is Half Sword

It isnt out yet,you can only play the demo on steam but its fun

Its a physics based medival well fighting game

[plain garden]

What is it

[jaunty cairn]

What happened to the ltt live stream?

[plain garden]

There was a stream?

[jaunty cairn]

Yea the 24/7 one

Ltt tv

[plain garden]

Ohh that one yeah idk

[jaunty cairn]

It suddenly disappeared

[plain garden]

I have no idea

[jaunty cairn]

Maybe they ran out of videos to play?

[fossil frost]

it was an experiment, experiment is over

[jaunty cairn]

Oh

I liked turning into that

[plain garden]

I mean you can just watch their videos

I have learned a valuable lesson today

Cheap doesnt mean good

[jaunty cairn]

Ye

[plain garden]

I literally bought a headset for like 4000 HUF and its thw worst one i have ever used,its basically painful to wear and sounds terrible

I hope i can return it i only used it for like a hour

[prime solstice]

I think it was a test for something

It’s been off since September

[jaunty cairn]

Hm

[plain garden]

Also,the headset sounds like my earlier one when i had the mic unplugged from it

Honestly idk what i even thought would happen

[stoic beacon]

Cheap usually means not good

[plain garden]

Well yeah

[solar stratus]

Cheap = ewaste

Unless refurbished, then good

[full sparrow]

What do you guys think about the framework laptop?

[sudden bough]

It is a laptop

[stoic beacon]

I think it's a really good long term idea that will be something I pick up someday.

[full sparrow]

I’m thinking of it in terms of a desktop replacement

[sudden bough]

Laptops don’t replace desktops, especially for gaming

[full sparrow]

It seems like this one is angling to with its supposed modularity ( I’m not certain to what extent)

[stoic beacon]

It's not. It's trying to be a modular/repairable laptop. It still can't touch the efficiency and power of a desktop. It's meant to replace laptops that are not serviceable, that's its very very specific purpose.

Desktops are already modular and repairable.

[sudden bough]

Yes

[graceful burrow]

Most are*

[full sparrow]

Sorry , I’m thinking about my specific use case, which is gaming and school work. Unfortunately I longer have room for a desktop and have looked into sffpcs or laptops

[graceful burrow]

Fucking discord

I can't wait till this app gets what Skype got

[stoic beacon]

For gaming + school work, you'd want something like an XPS, ThinkPad, Framework, or Surface, and which one of those you choose would heavily depend on

A. What type of games you're playing
B. What type of schoolwork you're doing

The other option is to get a console to handle the gaming and then utilize your laptop for school alone, which opens up a whole slew of options

[full sparrow]

RTS’s mainly are my favorite

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, then I would get a laptop that's more focused on your schoolwork than something that's focused on gaming, since most RTS games are not very demanding.

The issue with Frameworks right now for something like school are the batteries. They just do not touch the battery life of a ThinkPad or a MacBook.

[full sparrow]

I’m not sure if I can tackle an ITX build, but micro atx might be viable for my skill level

[sudden bough]

Do y’all have a favorite streaming service, Netflix, etc.?

[full sparrow]

I like HBO max

[stoic beacon]

I tend to purchase one month of whatever it is I'm wanting to watch, watch it, then cancel it. Having a subscription burning all the time just so you can have infinite content to waste time on is not a great life move...

[full sparrow]

Rome is on HBO max , and so is South Park

[graceful burrow]

My nas, jellyfin
Streams movies and shows to my TV :)

[stoic beacon]

Too tryhard for Plex?

I guess you use TrueNas too, right?

[graceful burrow]

I don't like having to pay for hardware encoding

[stoic beacon]

Ah....that's fair

[clear kite]

Okay, i know Alienware desktops arent great, but the r15 with i7-13700 and RTX 4080 is like $3000 AUD for me, which is 75% the cost of me buying from another prebuild or ordering parts and building it myself. Is this desktop worth it for that price?
I have only seen reviews of the i9 4090, but that costs significantly more and the issue was that the wattage was limited apparently, as i recall from Gamers Nexus. Thoughts?

[sudden bough]

I might do that

[soft swan]

If you’re spending that much and the ram doesn’t even have a heatsink 🤦‍♂️

[clear kite]

RAMs need heatsink?

and as opposed $4k for same specs if i build it myself or buy another prebuilt

[stoic beacon]

No, they do not. 13700 and 4080 seem justified at that price, with everything else you're getting...there might be better options out there, but still

Do you have a link to the build?

[clear kite]

https://www.dell.com/en-au/shop/dell-desktop-computers/alienware-aurora-r15-gaming-desktop/spd/alienware-aurora-r15-desktop/hdawr1503au

[stoic beacon]

Ah. The bigger issue is the amount of storage and the amount of ram.

[clear kite]

16GB is fine isnt it? and im sure i can upgrade later on for that, and as for storage, itd have nvme slots for added

like 1TB SSD is like 80-120 AUD

[stoic beacon]

Depends. Alienware PCs are sometimes difficult to upgrade due to the wild cases. For 2,000 USD, I would expect 32GB of RAM, especially since it's so cheap now.

[clear kite]

oh

my other prebuild option is Lenovo Legion Tower 7, which i need to look into, but apparently it's CPU thermals are great and is quiet

but $4k

I feel like if they didnt normalise the higher prices of GPUs, $3000 AUD would be the norm for a 4080

[echo canopy]

are you fucking serious? they dont even have to implement that themselves its built into ffmpeg

imagine using hardware encoding tho i literally cant relate

[graceful burrow]

https://support.plex.tv/articles/115002178853-using-hardware-accelerated-streaming/

[soft swan]

Yes?

[clear kite]

Also, im curious about something. Why, when idle, do AMD CPUs use more power than intel, but when performing are significantly more efficient per watt?

[echo canopy]

Because of chiplet. the Infinity fabric requires a lot of power and AMDs IO die in general seems to be power hungery

[velvet marsh]

I've been debating using Jellyfin, but I've heard it's UI isn't quite as intuitive and my dad uses it religiously and idk if I can tech him lol

[echo canopy]

its just as bad as mobile plex's ui

[graceful burrow]

it's not that bad
my only real complaint about jellyfin is sometimes it has trouble applying subtitles

[velvet marsh]

hmm I may run it beside my Plex

Does it handle large libraries well? Mine's not huge but it's decent sized

[echo canopy]

yeah

[clear kite]

i guess that makes sense, it be that since theyre chiplets joined to each other, rather a more singular monolithic, they would use more power, but why doesnt that translate to higher wattages when on higher loads? Or does that communication between chiplets wattage stay relatively the same or not increase wattage on higher loads?

[velvet marsh]

What do you consider a large library?

[echo canopy]

I havent looked into that but i would assume it depends on if its a constant signal only "used when its needed"

once you get into actual cpu usage the power consumed by the cores themselves outweigh any other power usage tho

[echo canopy]

like 150 titles

[velvet marsh]

Oh, I'm at 3700

[echo canopy]

damn

[stoic beacon]

I paid for the convenience of Plex...I tried out Jellyfin, but I just don't want to have to put any effort in when it's time to veg out

[full fossil]

building my first pc rn… nobody could’ve prepared me for how weird the gigabyte motherboards’ SSD slots were

[graceful burrow]

once it's set up it's no effort lol

[velvet marsh]

That's fair, yeah I bought a Plex pass like 6-7 years ago now?

[graceful burrow]

why would i pay to use my hardware

i already own the hardware

[stoic beacon]

I paid for the software, personally

[echo canopy]

both are set and forget, jellyfin is just different

[velvet marsh]

Does Jellyfin do credit and intro skipping?

[clear kite]

Are there certain good GPUs to buy, or is it regardless of brand they're pretty close to the same?

[stoic beacon]

Depends on who you ask here.

[graceful burrow]

it might be in the options or as a plugin but i havent looked into it

[stoic beacon]

Because of the thousands of GPUs we go through at work, I always advocate for ASUS and MSI, since they've had by far the lowest failure rate, but that's just me.

[clear kite]

asking anyone and everyone who would answer lol

[echo canopy]

something something look at the latest hardware unboxed price to performance tests and frame per dollar or whatever.
Honestly i would just go with anything with 16GB of vram for bare minimum

[velvet marsh]

I'm pretty sure I can just run it in a docker and point it to my media folder tho to try it out

[clear kite]

that's reasonable

[graceful burrow]

a gpu (or any piece of hardware tbh) being good or bad is solely dependant on the workload you plan to use it for

[clear kite]

when you do hav failures, around what operation and how long after using it would it fail?

[clear kite]

gaming and rendering, and some AI stuff for uni, and im not interested in overclocking

[echo canopy]

Thats what i did when i was playing with it. altho i dont watch or rewatch shows enough for something like plex or jellyfin to matter to me

[stoic beacon]

Just standard gaming stuff...we're technically developing games, but the workload is similar most of the time. Out of the box, we have to return/RMA about 3/100 Gigabyte GPUs because they just don't work at all. Then another 20/100 fail within a year or two. ASUS we have an issue with maybe 1 GPU every 500

MSI is closer to 1 every 200 or so.

[graceful burrow]

if its ai dont buy amd
amd has some catching up to do in that regard

[echo canopy]

Probably want something nvidia then as ROCm pytorch (if thats what youre using) only works on linux and with specific distros (and requires spoofing your card unless its navi 21 or youre on RDNA3) and intel is hit or miss as well

[clear kite]

yeah, that's why im looking at NVIDIA, as much as i wish not to give them oney rn

[stoic beacon]

If you're using a PC for university, Intel is definitely not an option lol. There's too much that can go wrong for you to stake your $100K education on it.

[graceful burrow]

so buy used

[clear kite]

arent 40 series GPUs wignificantly better than prev gens?

[echo canopy]

Literally all they need to do is add full ROCm support for windows and the lower end skus of cards in general.
yes they "added" ROCm support on windows but they left out important math libs for stuff like pytorch.

[clear kite]

aside from 4060

[stoic beacon]

In the ways you're planning on using it? Probably. But you can still get used 40 series

Well...maybe not anymore, after the price jump.

[clear kite]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[solemn axle]

Are there any super-duper technology that allows you to find earbuds easily if they are disconnected from the phone

If it is, how is it called so I could google some?

[echo canopy]

how strong the gain is from the bluetooth signal. Apple already integrated that into find my for supported devices

[clear kite]

brain - deductions

[stoic beacon]

Find My Device is what it is usually called

[solemn axle]

Find My Device with Google earbuds does let you ring them only if they are connected, in other case they can only show where you been when they had disconnected

[stoic beacon]

That's going to be the case with pretty much anything but AirPods with Apple devices I think

And Samsung's Pro Buds 2

[echo canopy]

apple find my my beloved

[solemn axle]

I'm thinking about airpods, but man... $150-$200

[stoic beacon]

You also need to have a good amount of Apple devices for the Find My stuff to work, as it is based off of proximity to other Apple devices.

[echo canopy]

its only to your iphone.

no other apple device can ping

[stoic beacon]

Oh really? It's not like AirTags?

[echo canopy]

oh you mean like if you leave it somewhere and other iphones can track it?

yeah you can do that with airpods too

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, I figured they had built that in, since it's in most of their other devices

[solemn axle]

The only thing I have that resembles apple is a contractored airpods

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, I think that's what Naoki is after here

[stoic beacon]

Then you're not gonna have a good time with Airpods

[solemn axle]

by the way, these fake airpods were surprisingly good

[echo canopy]

airpods are a pretty bad price to performance anyways unless you get the pros and care about ANC

[stoic beacon]

I mean, given how bad airpods are, that's not a very high bar to hit

[echo canopy]

dude the airpod pros 2nd gen are fucking amazing

[stoic beacon]

I guess, if you absolutely need TWS and use Apple devices

They stomp Samsung and Google's offerings, but if you're okay with even just a bit of cord, or full cords, they can't compete in the slightest

[solemn axle]

My sound quality bar is low af, I had been using Shokz Openmove (bone-conductive headphones) for 2 years and it was great experience

[echo canopy]

obviously something corded is gonna beat in price to performance lol
except ANC, they have really good ANC

[hot tartan]

Even Gen 1 pros are so nice

[echo canopy]

the gen 1 have a horrible sound profile

[stoic beacon]

Definitely not

[hot tartan]

I just like noise canceling

[solemn axle]

I just hoped that humanity advanced far enough to make Find My Headphones true

[hot tartan]

I know Gen 2 are much better, but my Gen 1s have seen usage every day

[stoic beacon]

Like I said, it already exists, if you have a bunch of Apple stuff https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207581

[solemn axle]

I was born too late to discover islands but too early to find my headphones without connection

[echo canopy]

just in time to browse r/dankmemes

thats a joke its really gone to shit

[solemn axle]

I mean, kinda, but Apple devices don't work great outside of its ecosystem

Although MacBooks look great, I would never touch MacOS again

[echo canopy]

"just get a iphone bro"

[solemn axle]

I got a Pixel 5 just for the sake of root

And the sick Google's Rom

[echo canopy]

terrible SOC

> Qualcomm Snapdragon 765G – an 8-core chipset that was announced on December 4, 2019, and is manufactured using a 7-nanometer process technology. It has 1 core Kryo 475 Prime (Cortex-A76) at 2400 MHz, 1 core Kryo 475 Gold (Cortex-A76) at 2200 MHz, and 6 cores Kryo 475 Silver (Cortex-A55) at 1800 MHz.

MFW 6 A55 cores

[solemn axle]

I got it for the $170

[echo canopy]

okay thats fair

[solemn axle]

Also Apple isn't a way since I'm in the Russia

[echo canopy]

I was memeing that part

google phones in general have shitty SOC cpus tho

[solemn axle]

a lot of applications like Bank apps or social networks were removed from the Apple's store

[solemn axle]

Probably, but at the end of the day I don't play games on phone, and I found Pixels (3, 3xl, 5) pretty convinient in terms of features

[echo canopy]

its not just games, the earlier pixels are already showing their age in day to day usage

my mother has a pixel 2 i think? it was a nightmare (for me because im picky) doing anything on it

[solemn axle]

Redmi 4X was a nightmare to use too, but i could give it 4 more years thx to Lineage

Nokia 7.2 in comparesment was much worse

[solemn axle]

Just because the second one wasn't rootable*

At the end of the support they rolled out an update that broke phone communication and just ended to publish updates

[pine whale]

#gaming help pls

[stoic beacon]

Pixels are not phones you buy for longevity

[whole swallow]

#gaming is pretty useless tbh. You're prolly better off just asking a tech help channel

[leaden gale]

I beg to differ, but to each his own

[sudden bough]

hey, #gaming is my fav channel |:

[echo canopy]

nearly every single pixel to come out had underpowered hardware for the time and just made up for it with a light weight rom with trimed animations for a "faster" feeling

[solemn axle]

I hate to agree with you considering the cardboard it consist of

[echo canopy]

pixels themselves are a terrible price to performance in hardware and are made up with just "good" software.

[glacial crane]

pixels are total crap

[solemn axle]

I wouldn't say that pixel's rom is so light weight honestly, it is really far from the AOSP or even Lineage

[echo canopy]

lineage is special

[glacial crane]

See, you know that Google is lacking when they run out of ideas to the point that one of their main advertising points is "Temperature Sensor." Yet, the sensor can't actually measure human body temperature. Sad af

[cosmic elm]

/me loves his Pixel 6 Pro

[solemn axle]

I mean, it is light, but only with a comparisment with Xiaomi or Huawei which needs to be cleaned each time you factory reset them

[glacial crane]

iphone user all my life, but temporarily using an s22

goodlock is nice, but i miss ios

[echo canopy]

my mother got a s22 ultra (or whatever its called) and it wont let you share a fucking wifi password with a non samsung user and switching the stock password manager was hard as fuck

[glacial crane]

shit

samsung pass is fucking dogshit

[solemn axle]

switching the stock password manager was hard as fuck
Wtf, so, no bitwarden

Sound like Apple shit honestly

[glacial crane]

"SAVE PASSWORD WITH SAMSUNG PASS?" stfu bitch, lemme use bitwarden

[lilac bear]

Exynos is best

[echo canopy]

THATS LITERALLY what i was trying to switch it to

[glacial crane]

I couldn't figure out how the hell to do it

[sudden bough]

I use Keepass

[echo canopy]

apple makes it easier to use a different password manager, its literally one menu, thats it

[solemn axle]

I sure 70% of this server uses selfhosted bitwarden

[glacial crane]

yes

main problem with the s22 is battery life

it's just total crap to the point where i need to charge by 6pm, and i use it 1-2 hours a day in total

[echo canopy]

maybe in like 2016 or whenever that RDNA2 powered exynos comes out. other then that its shit and constantly underperforms compared to snapdragon which itself is meh compared to apples SOC

the snapdragon 8 gen 2 only beats the A whatever in gpu because they doubled the gpu core count and halfed clocks

[glacial crane]

Will be genuinely terrified if iPhone 16 comes out with A17 Pro and A18 Pro; why the fuck would Apple stick a "Pro" chipset in a non-pro iPhone

[solemn axle]

Nah, it is normal, Nokia get discharged with the same rate tbh, by my experience only Pixel 3xl & 5 were able to hold charge 2-3 days

[glacial crane]

Best guess is it's gonna be A18 and A18 Pro

[glacial crane]

expected. watched some reviews and they say the same

[echo canopy]

I think the pro line of SOC will stay exclusive to the pro models. unless its a lass gen pro soc in like the iphone plus

[lilac bear]

but every good phone uses Exynos, so checkmate

[glacial crane]

A17 Pro in ip16 doesnt feel right; 75% chance that it'll be A18/A18 pro

[glacial crane]

So Tensor G3 is good? Hell, the chip was so bad as opposed to competitors in regards to performance that Google could only rampage about AI shit that no one cares about it

[echo canopy]

kek

[glacial crane]

Who the fuck is going to wait 10 hours for a "boosted" video?

[lilac bear]

nah just saying people don't buy phones that have snapdragon in it

[glacial crane]

Fair point

Akin to why Galaxy A14 5G is best-selling before iPhone

[harsh quartz]

counter point, majority of phone buyers dont care what chipset it has

[solemn axle]

Pixels may be not the best phones, but in my case, they were delivering everything they promised, have good XDA support and thx God, I don't need to strip it from the Huawei-style crap each time I reset it

Also I like that they aren't so big in terms of screen size

[echo canopy]

when is a manufacture gonna but a MediaTek Dimensity or whatever in a phone ffs

[glacial crane]

Aren't they bigger than the Galaxys and iPhones now?

[echo canopy]

the pixel i know for sure is bigger then a iphone 13 mini

[solemn axle]

Give me a Iphone/Galaxy model

[lilac bear]

tbf that name has "mini" in it

[solemn axle]

I'll try to compare

[echo canopy]

mini == human sized

[harsh quartz]

not all hand sizes are the same?

[polar fern]

plus like not everyone wants a 4 foot wide screen

[glacial crane]

6.1" S23, 6.1" iPhone 15, 6.2" Pixel 8; 6.7" iPhone 15 Plus/Pro Max, 6.7" Galaxy S23 Ultra, 6.7" Pixel 8 Pro

how tf are they significantly smaller

[harsh quartz]

i never had aproblem with super large screens in my phone, my problem was putting them in my pocket, but a mini would be too tiny in my hands, i wouldnt be able to type

[polar fern]

the 14 an 15 are stupidly large

[harsh quartz]

i have a 13 normal and its honestly perfect size

[polar fern]

iphone se 3rd gen woo

[glacial crane]

Can't make that comparison without thinking about the direct competiton that are the same size, if not larger

[polar fern]

if i wanna watch something on ab ig screen i can use a tv or my computers

[glacial crane]

true

[polar fern]

erm thats ... yourem issing my point entirely but ok

[harsh quartz]

that doesnt make it okay, that just means they are ALL stupidly large

[glacial crane]

ah now i get it

[solemn axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1146498346823987342/1174153470559924305/image.png?ex=65668ea2&is=655419a2&hm=22159125adc5abb4fedeebbe627f7504bb18658459bbc4277b206d842fcde785&

Honestly, I thought it (IPhone 15) was bigger

[glacial crane]

I need an iPhone 14 in the form factor of an SE

[polar fern]

7 inch screen is almost a portable tv

[glacial crane]

idrc about a notch

[polar fern]

i do not want

[solemn axle]

I just like to be able to use phone with one hand

[polar fern]

yeah same

[glacial crane]

its 2023, not possible anymore

[harsh quartz]

i would rather have a notch that apps are designed around as opposed to a camera hole that apps just ignore and now i have a hole in my content

[lilac bear]

tablets and ipads exist

[polar fern]

for folks with accessibility issues, these newer large phones SUCC

[manic torrent]

My spidey senses told me people were in here being wrong

[glacial crane]

Well... Dynamic Island seems like the best solution to that problem for now***

[polar fern]

i know make the phones thicker so we dont need these weird camera bumps

[glacial crane]

ew no

[lilac bear]

but the large phones are what sell
ASUS thought of killing the Zenfone series

[solemn axle]

It helps a lot when you switch hands
For a some reason, UI is fairly good designed to be usable by right hand

but just dare to try use device using left hand...

[polar fern]

bigger battery and oh man awesome phones all the sudden

[glacial crane]

lol

[polar fern]

thats what she said

[harsh quartz]

dynamic island is a dumb gimmick and im not a fan, like the "action button"

[echo canopy]

normal is more like a plus size, the mini is perfectly serviceable and actually fits in my jacket pocket

[harsh quartz]

perfect for you, not human sized

[polar fern]

the mini is normal sized

[harsh quartz]

all phones are human sized

[lilac bear]

like if small phones sold well we would have more Zenfones and the iPhone 14 mini

[glacial crane]

Had a 14 Plus for a few months, then going to an S22 it feels, and I quote "WTF INSANELY COMPACT??" and then going back to the 14 Plus "WTF THIS IS HUGE"

[polar fern]

iphone 15 needed a mini. hoping tey dont fubar the SE lineup with a non home button model

[glacial crane]

that's the 2023 effect

[manic torrent]

It's almost like everything is relative 🙂

[harsh quartz]

iphone 15 needs a 3.5mm jack

[echo canopy]

I hope they make a borderless SE

[glacial crane]

oh hell no, there are rumors that the new SE would get the iphone 14 design

that would be perfect even for $499

[polar fern]

barf

[echo canopy]

yeah

[lilac bear]

ayo

[manic torrent]

Lol

[polar fern]

i want a home button not some weird workaround

[harsh quartz]

fuck yeah lets bring back tactile buttons

[glacial crane]

Home button is simple, gestures are 2023

[harsh quartz]

i miss my home button

[echo canopy]

why waste so much space for a dumb button thats not better then full screen gestures

[glacial crane]

very fine line

[harsh quartz]

its far better

[echo canopy]

how?

[polar fern]

can tell you right now, as soon as i have to get an iphone with no home button im not gonna end up using it at all except as a phone.

[glacial crane]

I absolutely despised how old Samsungs with their rectangular home buttons looked, though

[lilac bear]

people don't care about the 3.5mm jack as much as they say they do
like fuckin every phone except the Samsung A series, Zenfone, and Xperia does not have it

[polar fern]

gestures? i have chronic fuckin tendonitis

[echo canopy]

I FORGOT about Xperia, i need to try that out
first android ill like probably

[glacial crane]

Had an Alcatel 1V Plus for a month

[harsh quartz]

gestures work like 70% of the time and overlap too much, home button was simple and worked perfectly, also was a hardware touch ID sensor which worked amazingly as opposed to in screen touch ID sensors

[polar fern]

i got ya gesture rite here

[glacial crane]

was hell, but tiny

[echo canopy]

face ID

[lilac bear]

Motorola and Xiaomi too I guess lmao

[manic torrent]

In screen is still hardware....

[glacial crane]

Touch ID thing is true, my S22's fingerprint reader is crap

[lilac bear]

yeah gestures need more fine tuning

[harsh quartz]

face ID is also nice but i dont want it for payments and such, i liked having to actually confirm a payment with a tactile bump on the touchID sensor

[lilac bear]

at least coming from an Android user

[harsh quartz]

you know what i mean 😛

[polar fern]

and im sorry but we dont need 400 cameras in phones. like. can we skip the camers and lower the price?

[manic torrent]

Gestures are wayyyy better on my pixel 7 pro with rounded edges.

[harsh quartz]

coming from an ugly mother fucker, can we get rid of the selfie cam

[polar fern]

well... 2 is fine i htink

[glacial crane]

I'm the perfectionist type so the temporary transition to choppy af Android anims is traumatizing

[echo canopy]

3 is perfect, macro, telephoto, and a main shooter

[glacial crane]

Macro?

I need that Ultra Wide

[harsh quartz]

aight, so you should get a model that has those, i want a model that has 1 main shooter and no selfie cam, i should have a cheaper option

[lilac bear]

yeah my normal Pixel 7 got those tight edges

[glacial crane]

True, but you need a Telephoto at the very least

[echo canopy]

I dont want a selfie either i understand, i just mean in general

[polar fern]

if you wanna take up photography as a hobby, get a camera that can do camera stuff 100x better than a phone

[harsh quartz]

no, I do not

[polar fern]

no

[glacial crane]

The best solution would probably be a 15 mini

perfect combo imo, if u dont need insane battery

[manic torrent]

Lol, nobody wants this.

[lilac bear]

you're a macro

[echo canopy]

phones actually have really good sensors and are just fucked by terrible processing.
the raws that come out of the 14 pro were fucking amazing

[graceful burrow]

if you wanna take up photography as a hobby, get a camera that takes film so your photos are naturally better

[harsh quartz]

and thats fine, you should have the option to get 3 cameras, i should have a cheaper option that only has 1

[glacial crane]

lmfao

[harsh quartz]

but thats hard

[graceful burrow]

no its not

[polar fern]

also photo/vid on phones = kills the battery

plus youre dependant on the device and the cloud and the (in many cases) non-removeable battery

[glacial crane]

Then configuring PCs would become incredibly similar to configuring smartphones + the base models would get even worse for the same price

[polar fern]

it a bad idea

[manic torrent]

Lol what the fuck

[harsh quartz]

i mean, no? you can keep local copies on a pc or external hdd?

[echo canopy]

Why would i need to rely on the cloud to shoot raws on my phone?

[polar fern]

"shot on iphone" like idgaf about that, gimme battery

[harsh quartz]

it already has a REALLY good battery tho

[lilac bear]

phones with USB C exist

[pearl isle]

Is Titan fall 2 cross play between PlayStation and Xbox?

[polar fern]

keep local? how? magical data transfer as youre recording?

[graceful burrow]

no

[pearl isle]

Damn

[echo canopy]

the internals of the iphone are already optimized to the extreme, it already has the biggest battery it can have except for the sim card bullshit

[glacial crane]

iPhone 15 Plus battery life is crazy though

[manic torrent]

... This is a properly insane take

[glacial crane]

very true

[harsh quartz]

the phone has a local storage, it ALSO has the ability to export to a external SSd, also you can upload them to your computer?

[spice pine]

My 15 Pro Max can easily last me 2 days if i’m not on it all the time

[lilac bear]

1TB phones exist
and you can just use the USB C port for external m.2

[spice pine]

the least it’s lasted me is a day and a half so far

[polar fern]

-magically transfers files to ssd-

[echo canopy]

bro my 13 mini can last two days if i just use it as a phone.

[glacial crane]

I'm gonna sign off, ciao

[echo canopy]

cya

[harsh quartz]

honestly going to an iphone 13 from my last iphone being a 7, the battery life is fuckin insane now

[harsh quartz]

??? do you not understand how cables work?

[lilac bear]

I mean I am not a tech science man but isn't that how it actually works

[polar fern]

using the cameras on a phone destroys battery life and degrades the battery faster from heat. its a known problem

[harsh quartz]

then dont use it?

[spice pine]

I use my phone a lot more than I should, but the 15 Pro Max may be my last phone for a while. This thing does everything I want it to and then some

[lilac bear]

there are USB C to M.2 docks

[polar fern]

right id rather have a dedicated camera

[manic torrent]

Oh no, better not use my expensive device that can do many things.

[polar fern]

if someone calls while im recording a video it also stops the recording so

[raven pelican]

yes, yes

but really the only ones that work well are Thunderbolt

[harsh quartz]

DND mode?

[raven pelican]

Streamer mode

[polar fern]

nah

[spice pine]

This is a really stupid argument

[lilac bear]

yes but that requires the phone to be Thunderbolt
which I only know the iPhone 15 Pro can do

[graceful burrow]

this your first time in pubchat?

[harsh quartz]

see, you went from talking about actual issues to now your going on about avoidable issues that are just annoying to you but have actual fixes

[manic torrent]

How many phone calls do you get? Fuck

[polar fern]

yes lets kill the battery and have no juice left to rrange a ride back from the place youre recording at

[raven pelican]

ah we're talking about phones

usb c to m.2 on a phone does not seem amazing

[spice pine]

No, I’m just incapable of staying away from the drama ig

[graceful burrow]

i have a car

[harsh quartz]

do you not have a charger? or a battery? or a car?

[graceful burrow]

i own a vehicle

[echo canopy]

my mans just has a really shitty phone. ive recorded for over a hour on my old shitty android and had plenty of battery to spare

[lilac bear]

it isn't amazing but you have a better idea for tons of storage on a phone that isn't a microsd card

[raven pelican]

nah lmao

[harsh quartz]

every time someone insults an iphone you manage to pop in

[echo canopy]

they have a bike.

[lilac bear]

lmao

[harsh quartz]

sucks for them, they can buy a battery

[polar fern]

as someone who actually used to (pre pandemic) actually record video for projects its not some minor gripe. its a major issue. id rather have a solid good phone and not kill it to record stuff

buy an iphone battery>

[harsh quartz]

then use a battery or a camera?

[echo canopy]

use the electric assist battery for phone charging

[polar fern]

erm no

[spice pine]

I’m just rarely offline. I didn’t even think this was an iPhone thing, just in general, why rely on a phone camera for professional usage, or complain about your phone camera not being a literal replacement for a pro camera

[harsh quartz]

no one is forcing you to use the iphone to film thjat

[polar fern]

electic what? what teh fuyck are you talking about?

[graceful burrow]

yeah nobody else in chat has every actually recorded a video for projects before
nope
never
didnt happen

[lilac bear]

you just agreed with his initial point

[harsh quartz]

no?

[echo canopy]

wait do you unironically actually pedal bike everywhere?

[polar fern]

yall think i use an ebike?

[raven pelican]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sku/6412337.p?skuId=6412337

[lilac bear]

I kinda did

[graceful burrow]

i dont think anyone actually suggested that

[raven pelican]

i'm not real

[polar fern]

um i live car free because i dont wanna pollute the planet i live on

[echo canopy]

I did

[harsh quartz]

and this stops you from having an ebike because thats a car?

[graceful burrow]

yours could be taken in that he took public transport or did own a car

[polar fern]

i been a car free cyclist for like 25 years

[harsh quartz]

congrats, want a cookie?

[spice pine]

The moral highroading here is… whew that’s something

[harsh quartz]

no its really not

[echo canopy]

I explicitly said electric assist which is common terminology for e bikes

[polar fern]

i got the thicc leg muscle

[graceful burrow]

must be nice to live in a city where that's applicable
unfortunately the majority of the usa that's a stupid idea because of how sprawled out shit is

[raven pelican]

doesn't want to pollute the planet

owns a phone, computer, uses electricity (probably coal power too), probably has natural gas furnace, uhhh

[lilac bear]

first time on the internet?

[harsh quartz]

let me bike 15 miles to work and back every day on the interstate

[graceful burrow]

interstate bicycling so safe

[spice pine]

I’d love to be car free, hate driving, but it’s a 40min drive to work, I can’t make that on a bike daily lmao

[polar fern]

interstates dont allow non motor vehicles

[raven pelican]

i love driving

[manic torrent]

"why would I use a phone I already carry with me everywhere to record video when I could carry a second bulky device instead!?"

[echo canopy]

racing is fun

[raven pelican]

(fuck electric cars)

[harsh quartz]

wow thank you captain fuckin obvious, maybe thats part of the issue that i was pointing out

[polar fern]

electric car is stil la car

[lilac bear]

who is going to stop him? the police?

[harsh quartz]

yes

[manic torrent]

Literally yes?

[echo canopy]

why eletric car when (gas) motorcycle is cheaper and you dont have to deal with charging stations

[polar fern]

sounds like your issue is not bicycle, but the car-centric infrastructure youre trapped in

[raven pelican]

like you say all this shit but charging your phone and powering your pc is most likely creating more emissions than driving your car

[harsh quartz]

oh this some artsy fartsy bad faith bullshit

[spice pine]

literally nobody is making an argument against bikes

[raven pelican]

r/fuckcars user

[manic torrent]

Why gas motorcycle when you could just jump into a blender

[echo canopy]

Im fine with the "car-centric infrastructure" if it means i have better mental health

[lilac bear]

phones are stupid efficient wdym

[polar fern]

bad faith? interstates were supposed to be for emergency civilian evacuations and military use, not commuting 45 minutes

[raven pelican]

you know how we get like 90% of our power?

[manic torrent]

Lol that is a hilariously bad take

[raven pelican]

coal.

[graceful burrow]

dont worry ill roll coal and throw a couple car batteries in a lake to offset your biking, shouldnt take much

[polar fern]

we have mostly nuclear, wind, and hdro here

[harsh quartz]

yes, let me move into the city, where rent prices are sky high, so that i can bike to work and not afford to eat

[raven pelican]

oh sorry 80% in the states

[graceful burrow]

catch me in my horribly inefficient 3.5k pound car burning a tank of gas a day

[lilac bear]

phones still use tiny amounts of energy compared to your electric stove for cooking

[polar fern]

25 years of no car is a lot of not emissions

[spice pine]

Must be nice, being able to take the moral high road and act like it's just an option for everyone to take

[echo canopy]

urban life is known to cause several mental problems. https://www.psychiatry.org/news-room/apa-blogs/city-living-and-mental-well-being

[raven pelican]

coal and oil makes up 80% of american energy production

[harsh quartz]

coal roll that biker as you pass

[graceful burrow]

yeah thats why i said it shouldnt take much to offset your impact

[polar fern]

urban? yalll

25 years of gasoline is more than you could afford dude

[manic torrent]

Yes, but you're getting correlation and causation very confused there.

[harsh quartz]

someone skipped geometry

[graceful burrow]

you know my financial situation or something? lmao

[lilac bear]

now that sounds like you hate the infrastructure put in place and not that phones use 5000mah every two days

[polar fern]

"look, i can act an ass!" like what is your mo here?

[graceful burrow]

the mo' is that your argument is worthless

[raven pelican]

thankfully i actually value my time 🙂

[harsh quartz]

same as yours, apparently

[spice pine]

Pot? Kettle's calling

[polar fern]

?

[manic torrent]

Individual consumption changes nothing except how you feel.

[polar fern]

dude bragging he can destroy the encironment to one up me?

[graceful burrow]

damn he cant even see that 💀

[echo canopy]

We couldnt have the public transportation that many people strive for without massive cities or else we would effectively have cars. im not sure what youre getting at.
are you saying city life isnt the flaw in the first place?

[polar fern]

public transprtation?

[graceful burrow]

nah you missed the point ENTIRELY

[lilac bear]

also how are you expecting to cook your food without electricity or gas

[polar fern]

gas? erm

[graceful burrow]

erm

[harsh quartz]

erm\

[manic torrent]

You can have liveable cities my dude.

[graceful burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-what-the-floppity-flip-wgat-whar-gif-16267048566435146304

[polar fern]

we dont even have gas lines in these neighborhoods

[harsh quartz]

lets go back to the 70s when there was acid rain and a hole in the ozone

[raven pelican]

you know how you get your shit delivered from china? A boat. How is that boat powered? Huh. I wonder how most of our electricity is produced. Huh. I wonder what most of our airplanes run on. Huh.

[lilac bear]

just don't eat food because that stove you are using to cook that food is run on COAL

[harsh quartz]

the fuck?

[polar fern]

we dont have any coal power plants in this region

[graceful burrow]

i got some stuff from china coming in tomorrow wahoo

[harsh quartz]

dude got that ali express pc comin in

[spice pine]

"I ride a bike to feel superior about my impact on the environment, not knowing that 440 million tons of co2 emissions are caused by ships"

and tell me... how was that bike made?

[raven pelican]

like

[manic torrent]

Something something no ethical consumption under capitalism

[lilac bear]

stop this gives me "yet you participate in society" energy

[harsh quartz]

little gnomes in the tree that makes the bikes, its next to the tree that makes the roller blades

[raven pelican]

[graceful burrow]

FINALLY someone gets it

[polar fern]

yall are confusing car free with carbon neutral

theres no way i can live carbon nautral

[harsh quartz]

your confusing daily life with actively destroying the world

[echo canopy]

carbon negative

[polar fern]

impractical

[manic torrent]

Now do it per capita!

[raven pelican]

epa no giveth

[lilac bear]

I suck carbon out of the air

[harsh quartz]

i just suck in general

[spice pine]

its not even that at all, it just feels really stupid to act superior about it when what your personal offsets are so miniscule they wouldn't even matter much if everyone did them

[graceful burrow]

the vast majority of pollution is not from individual
that's an oil and gas company psyop, unironically
they lobby to pay for advertisements and stuff to put the blame on the consumer, not the provider (them)

[gilded forge]

I just suck other stuff

[harsh quartz]

20$ is 20$

[manic torrent]

To be fair, it is hard to understand the complex interactions of international trade and policy and economics and production and etc etc. Much easier to focus on not driving a car.

[polar fern]

gas wells emit more shit than all the cars in your neighborhood, it true

[graceful burrow]

yeah i dont expect them to be able to grasp concepts beyond that

[lilac bear]

I guess yeah

[harsh quartz]

imagine getting here from "phones should have less cameras"

[raven pelican]

you know what emits even more? A boat.

[polar fern]

ermmm for the work its doing?

[spice pine]

average public-chat moment

[graceful burrow]

you know what emits even more?
trains and planes

[polar fern]

not really

[harsh quartz]

no, actaully, he uses a paddle boat just to offset the emissions of that tanker over there

[raven pelican]

nah cargo boats have higher emissions lmao

[polar fern]

fewer camera, not less cameras

trains um

[harsh quartz]

depends on how you look at it, per pound, planes are WAY WAY WORSE

[manic torrent]

.... Again, now do per tonne/distance.

[full fossil]

Hey everyone, I just have a quick question. My PC has a Ryzen 5 5600x Radeon rx 6500xt and 16 gigs of ram. I also have a 4000D from corsair for the case and a nice mobo and a coolermaster aio. so, what should i pupgrade first? IM waiting for black friday. Im either upgrading my pc or getting a new keyboard since I have an rk61

[spice pine]

... what?

[graceful burrow]

gpu and it isnt close

[echo canopy]

Taylor swifts private jet

[polar fern]

always interesting to see how informed/what people's informedness is on these issues.

[full fossil]

gpu??? I just got this one over the summer along with the ryzen 5

[polar fern]

fewer is quantitative, less is qualitative

[graceful burrow]

i agree
it is interesting
some people are just so lost up their own that it's impossible to have a genuine and constructive convo

[spice pine]

Oh, now it's an English lesson in pedantic semantics

[lilac bear]

apparently phones require 400 megawatts to drive according to someone here

[echo canopy]

based

[harsh quartz]

unless its in the context of numbers, in which its also quantitative because the english language is fluid and stupid

[full fossil]

and my dad got it as a gift so I dont want to replace it already unless its very much worth it

[graceful burrow]

the 6500xt blows, upgrade it

[polar fern]

i got your language fluid rite here

[lilac bear]

like bruh a PC uses so much more energy than 5000mah in two days

[full fossil]

to what though? does it matter the gpu is the xfx speedster editionh?

[spice pine]

It's like watching the sport change right before my eyes

[polar fern]

@spice pine conversations have a flow

[harsh quartz]

man, you take being wrong as well as a horse takes a kick in the ass

[gilded forge]

offsetting emissions doesnt really exist b

[spice pine]

https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-goalposts-changing-requirements-gif-25214446

[graceful burrow]

it does not matter
the 6500xt should be avoided like the plague, it is not a good card
too expensive to be worth it as a display adapter
too shit performance to be a gaming card
it's got no niche, no category that it fits

[polar fern]

just because you disagree and dont understand my point doeant mean im wrong

[graceful burrow]

if you cant properly explain your point then it might as well be wrong

[spice pine]

Your point was debunked and you just can't admit to the L

[harsh quartz]

no, you are literally wrong about the qualitative/quantitative thing but you turn to insults at that point

[graceful burrow]

avg transit convo
cant wait until he starts talking about unrelated shit to try and change the convo

this is a tried and true sequence of events

[polar fern]

if i cnt fsbndfhgudh yeah gonna sit here and un-muddy the water from the ongoing peanut gallery commentary

[harsh quartz]

and says he has sources but wont show them because their time is too valuable to educate us then spends another 60 minutes calling us stupid

[polar fern]

nope.

[graceful burrow]

yep

[polar fern]

sources?

[spice pine]

and there we go

[full fossil]

So what do you think I should upgrade to? I was thinking of maybe a 3080?

[polar fern]

pay me then i can spend my time on you

[graceful burrow]

6700xt

[harsh quartz]

oooo, there it is

[graceful burrow]

you aint worth a cent in any regard

[full fossil]

oh

[harsh quartz]

na, i would tip a cent, just to make sure they knew i remembered the tip, and just thought it wasnt worth one

[polar fern]

multiple municpilaities disagree

[graceful burrow]

"umm no you're wrong!"
'sure, prove me wrong'
"erm, pay me first"

[full fossil]

and what upgrade would help my pc boot faster? it boots quite slow

[harsh quartz]

SSd boot drive

[lilac bear]

slow boot then get an SSD

[full fossil]

any reccomendations?

[graceful burrow]

7 cents is worse

[polar fern]

thats not what i said

[harsh quartz]

any reputable SSd

[lilac bear]

^^

[harsh quartz]

howso?

[spice pine]

And now we're on to the semantics argument because there's no actual rebuttal

[full fossil]

ok because currently i only have an old hard drive lol

[manic torrent]

tb has a phd inhypocrisy

[lilac bear]

it's hard to go wrong with Samsung, Western Digital, Crucial, etc

[graceful burrow]

tf you gonna do with 7 cents
it's too much to just ignore and leave somewhere
it's too little to keep

[polar fern]

its not worth my time or effort to un-mangle the bullshit you twist my words into. youre just out to give me a hard time, not make any specific point

[harsh quartz]

7 cents definitely isnt too much to ignore

[graceful burrow]

it is
i ignore the pennies

leave em in the take a penny leave a penny thing

[harsh quartz]

if it was 7 pennies i would leave it, if it was a nickel and 2 pennies i would take the nickel and leave the pennies, i just hate copper

[spice pine]

Nobody twisted your words, you just failed to make a good point. Nobody's "out to give you a hard time," but making bad arguments does this for you.

[graceful burrow]

we only do it because there isnt a point being made

you're just whinging

[lilac bear]

remove the copper from your cables then

[spice pine]

real

[polar fern]

nobody twisted my words????? yall need help

[harsh quartz]

im whinging from these arguments

[manic torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/tpb-trailer-park-boys-ricky-to-fuck-off-gif-19480783

[graceful burrow]

nobody said that

[polar fern]

not my fault your brain cant comprehend basic concepts

[graceful burrow]

infact, i agreed to it

[spice pine]

Ooh, ad hominem

[polar fern]

k done

[lilac bear]

phones don't immediately die from opening the camera app

[full fossil]

For my Specs on my PC I have a TUF Gaming B550 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600, 24 gigs ram, and Radeon RX 6650Xt @graceful burrow wrong card said my bad.

[harsh quartz]

man, i really wanna respond to something here but i think i would get in trouble and im just not gonna

[graceful burrow]

yes they do!! my phone does!!!

[sterile rivet]

Liar

[graceful burrow]

6650xt is a MUCH better card lmao

[lilac bear]

iPhone worst to exist

[full fossil]

Yea that was my bad lol

[manic torrent]

still same answer, just that a 6650xt isn't a giant piece of shit

[spice pine]

"I'm not wrong, you're just too stupid to understand what I'm saying!"

[sterile rivet]

I had an LG K330 that would crash the second i opened the camera app

[harsh quartz]

it actually just straight fries the main board anytime you try to take a 4k video, they dont want you to know this tho

[full fossil]

So you are saying to upgrade the gpu first?

[manic torrent]

yes

[spice pine]

I wonder how long we'll be blocked for this time

[harsh quartz]

until the next time they wanna prove themselves to be surperior on the internet

[lilac bear]

secret government information

[full fossil]

Ok, sorry for the constant questions I'm not very knowledgeable on pcs except for just building them. What card do you think? 3080, 3090?

[manic torrent]

he is genuinely getting worse. I suspect it could be degenerative 😦

[manic torrent]

3080 12 gb, ti, or 90.

[harsh quartz]

my favorite part was when they said we couldnt afford 25 years of gas as if we havent been paying for gas for the past however many years

[lilac bear]

4090 best

[full fossil]

alright thanks

[pure olive]

hi bob!!!

[manic torrent]

HI!

[full fossil]

my minimum wage salary cant afford that

[lilac bear]

well too bad, take another loan

[harsh quartz]

4090 fire hazard

[pure olive]

hp reverb g2

[spice pine]

real

[pure olive]

@manic torrent mmmmm vr

[manic torrent]

I feel sorry for him. I mean, it's still annoying as fuck, but there is very clearly something wrong there

[harsh quartz]

only child baby

thats gotta be an only child syndrome if ive ever seen one

[spice pine]

Trying to make yourself feel superior on the internet is just… You could just go offline. You’d win!

[harsh quartz]

not just that, but surperior at EVERYTHING

[spice pine]

Main Character Syndrome fr

[harsh quartz]

morally, linguistically, education-ally?

[lilac bear]

Apple hater personality

[harsh quartz]

average pixel fan

[spice pine]

there’s a correlation here i’m sure

[harsh quartz]

tbf im an apple hater but i use an iphone cause i know when im wrong

[spice pine]

My next phone might be one of the flips/folds

[harsh quartz]

Ifold

[spice pine]

I’ve got my 14 pro max i’m holding onto until the next wave, my plan’s gonna give me some crazy trade in value for it

[harsh quartz]

Ifold Pro is just what they call the olympics gymnastics teams

[manic torrent]

I simply ... don't care very much about my phone anymore. More or less any phone will do what I need.

[harsh quartz]

i only care about value for money and i think an iphone is better value than the last android i had

[spice pine]

knowing apple, it’d be something like the iPhone Pocket or iPhone F series

[harsh quartz]

Iphone^2

[sudden bough]

iPhone implant

[spice pine]

i kinda like the idea of a flip-style iPhone Pocket tbh

[shut lichen]

if it has a decent screen, good camera, wireless charging, and an s-pen, then I'm happy-- wait that's one model of phone

[spice pine]

Note 7 flashbacks

[manic torrent]

errrr, cost of an iphone vs a pixel, yeah nah

[shut lichen]

there's a reason I'm still on the note 9

[harsh quartz]

i dont think a pixel is worth the cost of the phone in the long term

[spice pine]

if it didn’t have the whole exploding battery issue

the Note 7 was the best phone at the time

[harsh quartz]

just this one tiny issue

[manic torrent]

there's no actual content in that message

[shut lichen]

the note 7, yes. it was recalled and also remotely killed

[spice pine]

They were so cool though, it’s a shame they had that problem

[harsh quartz]

yeah, cause its an opinion, hard to convey in a small message and i know theres no convincing others so i dont try

[spice pine]

IR blaster, best screen at the time, best camera at the time, S Pen, it did everything

Phones should have IR blasters still and I’ll die on that hill

[harsh quartz]

for what purpose?

[shut lichen]

and first usb-c phone (at least the first that mattered, I have no clue if something else got it first)

[manic torrent]

but what makes it not worth it? like... is it TCO/resale, what is it missing that makes it have less value, because it's very clearly and easily less money, so it must have significantly less value to be worse value for money, by definition.

[spice pine]

Universal Remote Controls

[shut lichen]

phones with IR blasters are cool, sad that feature died

[manic torrent]

"I don't like it" is fine, but that isn't value for money.

[harsh quartz]

meh, most TVs have an app nowadays

[spice pine]

but you’d have to download an app for every tv brand, and hope they maintain support, and updates don’t kill it, etc

[gilded forge]

and assistant/Alexa functionality.

[shut lichen]

idk what tvs you're buying
closest thing to a tv having an app I've seen is just the google home's remote for anything using android tv

[manic torrent]

and go through a login/register process

[spice pine]

You get it

[shut lichen]

there's a reason android tv exists

[spice pine]

I still have to use my physical TV remote if I’m having wifi issues, etc

[manic torrent]

samsung smartthings. it's a horrible pain in the ass

[spice pine]

IR blasters had universal purpose

[echo canopy]

smart devices were a mistake

[prime solstice]

Just use a cheap one off of eBay and don’t connect it to the internet and burn the copies of the movies you have

[manic torrent]

wtf wifi issues? My physical TV remote basically never gets used, and is in a draw in another room with flat batteries. Also because we have a small person with grabby hands who loves to push buttons

[harsh quartz]

i prefer the security of an iphone, longer battery life, assured support, and no camera glass randomly cracking. I know that iphones are widely supported by most apps and have good, stable app versions and reliable IOS updates that let me confidently rely on my phone. my last phone did not provide this, so i went back to iphone

[spice pine]

I buy physical media to avoid this

[shut lichen]

wifi issues? sucks to suck I guess

[spice pine]

I forget that some people don’t understand the hells of rural internet in the USA

[prime solstice]

Same here but also I back it up in case if something happens to the disc

[manic torrent]

ok so it was a specific experience with a specific phone

[shut lichen]

that's internet issues, not wifi issues

[spice pine]

And you’ve missed the point of what I’m saying

[echo canopy]

well there isnt a very good alternative. you get a samsung thats even more walled garden then apple, a pixel that will age like fine cheese, or a chinese phone with questionable support
lg, nokia, none of them are reliable either

[manic torrent]

I control my TV from home assistant, which is entirely local, so no, internet issues won't affect my daily TV control..... except 100% of the content is streamed, so meh

[shut lichen]

no, you've explained your point badly.

[harsh quartz]

yes, that deterred me from that OS and that brand of phone, so i think, due to my experience, that an iphone is more value for me because i need, above all, confidence in my phone, i didnt have that in google or samsung, i had that in apple

[spice pine]

I’m not having a semantics argument over this, if the TV has any kind of network issue, you’d want the remote

[graceful burrow]

i understood it
what's your excuse

[manic torrent]

ok cool - that's fair enough, but that isn't value for money.

[shut lichen]

my excuse is they explained it badly.

[harsh quartz]

it is to me, maybe not to you, thats why i said i wasnt gonna try to convince you

[manic torrent]

There is a big difference between not havign internet and not having wifi

[graceful burrow]

that's a you problem
was pretty straight forward

[spice pine]

I didn’t say not having — I just meant a general internet issue on the device.

[shut lichen]

"wifi" issues and "internet" issues are two very different things.

[manic torrent]

Expressing it as "value for money" is your fundamental problem.
"I had poor experiences with some android phones and now I just go with iphones and it just works" is fine

[spice pine]

To the average end user, those terms are pretty interchangeable

[graceful burrow]

sure
we playin pedantic semantics over here?
you should stop bein so stuck up and grow up

[manic torrent]

The average end user is very stupid though

[shut lichen]

you're on the internet, get used to it.

[harsh quartz]

but i said that it was value based on my opinion, the value to me might be less to you if you have a different opinion, i didnt say that it was the HARDWARE value for money, i just said value

[manic torrent]

It makes me very sad that wifi =~ internet for many people 😦

[prime solstice]

Not to my brother when he’s playing Fortnite everyone has to get off the internet cause he has lag (even though it’s his switch)

[spice pine]

Sure. That’s why it’d be great to have a Universal Remote app on most phones and have the IR blaster built in

[graceful burrow]

i am used to it
that's why i called you out lmao

[shut lichen]

this.

[manic torrent]

when you say things, you need to understand that people read them, and if people are constantly not understanding you, it's you, not them 🙂

[echo canopy]

passive agressive much

[harsh quartz]

you say constantly, it was a one time thing, that i then restated clearly, you still didnt understand, i dont see that as on me

[manic torrent]

who is being passive?

[echo canopy]

Polar i know youre the real g

[harsh quartz]

apparently personal value = hardware MSRP value? news to me

nostalgia and family heirlooms mean nothing

[sudden bough]

Wait are people fighting in here. I was too busy listening to Mongolian music.

[prime solstice]

There’s this Amazon return store in my town and I could’ve bought a router for $35

[harsh quartz]

was it a good router?

[prime solstice]

Yep

[harsh quartz]

6e?

[prime solstice]

Yep

[harsh quartz]

why not get

[prime solstice]

Someone bought it before I got it

[spice pine]

I need to drop by my gf’s old work at some point, they were an Amazon Pallet reseller

[harsh quartz]

kek

[spice pine]

They brought out an apple at one point, everything for $5, absolutely livid i didn’t show up with $200

[harsh quartz]

ipad gen 2

[prime solstice]

Idk if I should switch my router my apple airport I use is still good

[harsh quartz]

i upgraded to a 6e router about a year ago and i love the thing

[manic torrent]

802.11b is enough for anyone, amirite?

[harsh quartz]

enough bandwith for our whole family with almost no drops

2.4 and 5g autoswitching is wonderful too

[prime solstice]

Well I can download steam games in 50 minutes

I kinda wanna get this router though so I can have faster speeds

[raven pelican]

ISP skill issue and signaling frequency are not exactly related

[echo canopy]

if you want extreme speeds youre better off building your own router

[manic torrent]

step 1: mine copper

[prime solstice]

I found out how to make one out of a raspberry pi 4

[manic torrent]

step 2: build PCB fabrication facility

[shut lichen]

expensive trash

[manic torrent]

step 3: Silicon fab

[prime solstice]

Idc as long as it works I’m happy

[echo canopy]

IDK why youre meming bob but its easy to build your own router as has ltt before

[manic torrent]

Step 4: plastic moulding factory

[prime solstice]

https://youtu.be/jlHWnKVpygw?si=7_Tan4HvxxCMKXw1

[spice pine]

that’s a cool evangelion router

[echo canopy]

Ive seen all of eva and i dont get that joke

[sudden bough]

Kek network chuck

[manic torrent]

... but why do you need to build your own for "extreme speeds"

[spice pine]

(it’s a gundam router)

[shut lichen]

the UDR is $266cad

[prime solstice]

Ok

[shut lichen]

https://ca.store.ui.com/ca/en/pro/category/all-unifi-cloud-gateways/products/udr

[harsh quartz]

everything with angles looks like a mecha anime

[echo canopy]

better quality antenna/radio + nas mf

[prime solstice]

How about I get another one of these maybe I will get ultra fast speeds

[harsh quartz]

honestly you can find good medium home sized routers for like 100$ US

[echo canopy]

just dont do mesh ffs

[harsh quartz]

ngl though i kinda want a sophos firewall/AP

[harsh quartz]

i think mine is mesh capable but i dont use it, a single router is fine

[echo canopy]

same

[prime solstice]

This looks cool Ngl

[sudden bough]

It’s cute

[raven pelican]

he needs it for his 3770k and Windows 7 ultimate gamer build to have minimum latency!!!

[echo canopy]

its probably meh quality for wireless signal tho

[harsh quartz]

its meant for on the go though, i dont figure it needs a whole lot

[prime solstice]

I actually need it to run doom on my windows 98 machine

[echo canopy]

windows 9 build *

[raven pelican]

arch linux

[prime solstice]

I kinda wish Microsoft released windows 9 as a April fools joke

[harsh quartz]

yall are still on 9? we got version 9.3.2 over here

[echo canopy]

dont meme on the best distro like that

[prime solstice]

I’m on windows nt 10

[raven pelican]

oh no i will

meme on them all

[harsh quartz]

yeah, im also on windows not 10, like i said, its 9.3.2

[raven pelican]

because you all lag very hard {be real, ultimate mousefeel>}

[echo canopy]

windows 8.0

[prime solstice]

No windows nt like nt 4.0

[harsh quartz]

yeah, im not on 4.0 either

[echo canopy]

I dont get the joke here

[prime solstice]

I kinda wonder if I can get doom to run on windows 3.1

[raven pelican]

look at the ram kek

this is my daily too

[harsh quartz]

honestly i think the whole doom joke ran its course when it was on a pregnancy test, like yes, it will run on ANYTHING, we get it, its not getting any more ridiculous

[prime solstice]

Oh no I’m not talking about doom I’m talking about doom 2

[echo canopy]

depends on the version of dos it runs on i guess. everything before windows 95 i think was just a environment on top of ms-dos

[harsh quartz]

well then say that

[prime solstice]

I thought I did must’ve not pressed down hard enough on the keyboard

[harsh quartz]

"i wonder if roller coaster tyc-" yes... yes it will....

[harsh quartz]

need some brown switches

[echo canopy]

it wasnt running locally on it. also bad apple on preg test when?

[prime solstice]

I do at my nana and papas house but I mostly use my laptop at my own house

[harsh quartz]

yeah ik, but for the joke, its just kinda reached the end, like it cant go further than this, except for maybe the dawid video where he games on the AIO Pump screen, that was pretty funny

[prime solstice]

I kinda wanna see it run on a cheap famiclone console

[echo canopy]

"famiclone"
i mean it ran on the NES so yeah

[harsh quartz]

so, bread?

[prime solstice]

“On todays video I got doom to run on a piece of bread” cuts to a image of doom guy toasted onto bread

[lilac bear]

I can believe this to be a real video

[harsh quartz]

i can see it like a vine

just a hardcut

[echo canopy]

mom can we have doom?
Mom: we already have doom at home
doom at home:

[harsh quartz]

this would just cut to animal crossing

[prime solstice]

I mean it can run on potatoes

[echo canopy]

bruh

[harsh quartz]

yeah, so do i, whats so special about that?

[full fossil]

you have to wait for the breads to toast for each frame

[prime solstice]

https://youtu.be/KFDlVgBMomQ?si=IjO-GU3bt7JbHZCG

[echo canopy]

you can speed it up by using a lazer cutter

[harsh quartz]

mmmmmm...CNCed toast

[echo canopy]

why is the desc just the fresh prince of bel-air

[prime solstice]

Screw it I have a soldering iron with a oled screen on it gonna run doom on it

[full fossil]

oranges can give eletricty too right

[prime solstice]

Lemons can

[harsh quartz]

electricity in the form of happy signals in my brain

[bright pecan]

hello

i found a used pc i9 11900k with RTX 4090 32gb ddr5 for 2400$

is it a good deal ? what do u guys think

[lilac bear]

someone's mom selling their kids PC after he failed math

[sudden bough]

Nooo not again!

[bright pecan]

no the guy died in a car accident

and his brother is selling the pc

[sudden bough]

Oh that’s ok then

[bright pecan]

not getting any answers here hmmm

[manic torrent]

Profiting from tragedy is the way to go

[sudden bough]

What you want?

[lilac bear]

damn that is rough

[sudden bough]

Correct. It’s the American way!

[manic torrent]

11900 is not ddr5 btw

[bright pecan]

i am from iraq btw

[sudden bough]

Kek

[bright pecan]

and living in iraq

[lilac bear]

well he die from a car accident

[bright pecan]

i asked

[lilac bear]

he is the one who asked

[bright pecan]

if its a good value

[manic torrent]

It is either not an 11900 or not ddr5.

[bright pecan]

its not ddr5 sorry its a typo

[sudden bough]

Oh no lol too much

[bright pecan]

i also found rtx 4080 with i9 13900k 32gb ddr5 ram for 2100$

[sudden bough]

That’s pushing it. I’d have to look see if I can find cheaper

[bright pecan]

oh really i am seeing rtx 4090 new alone for 1800-1900 ish

[sudden bough]

Wait is that USD?

[bright pecan]

i gave the rtx 4090 guy 2100$ he wouldnt take it

[harsh quartz]

Only you know if it’s worth it to you

[bright pecan]

yes all is usd

[bright pecan]

i am talking prices in general

[sudden bough]

OHOH

[bright pecan]

if its good value

[sudden bough]

star forge is having a sale

[harsh quartz]

Pcpartpicker

[sudden bough]

Yes

[harsh quartz]

Fuck yeah, penile PCs

[sudden bough]

Yes

[bright pecan]

so i shouldnt buy it ?

[sudden bough]

Idk do what you want

[harsh quartz]

Only you can figure that out, if your wanting advice, my advice is to plug the parts into pcpartpicker and see how much it costs

[sudden bough]

Si

[bright pecan]

problem is 11th gen is old and prices are in accurte

[harsh quartz]

No?

Look, if you want advice that’s the best you’ll get, if you want a yes or a no, magic 8 ball has a website

[sudden bough]

I ask Siri to flip a coin

Or sacrifice a goat

Wait for a sign

[harsh quartz]

I like the magic 8 ball website cause it’s 100% wrong all the time

[sudden bough]

Perfect so you always know what is right

[harsh quartz]

Or do you? Maybe it’s right this time 🙂

[sudden bough]

Also, if you ask Siri enough times, you can start predicting what it’s gonna say

[harsh quartz]

Randomness is very rarely random unless it’s a pure roll of the die

[sudden bough]

Toss a coin to your ai bot…

Oh Silicon Valley

[manic torrent]

What?

[harsh quartz]

What

[lilac bear]

starmid

[sudden bough]

Computer random isn’t random

[sudden bough]

Eh they have a sale. What you want a Dell?

[harsh quartz]

Randomness algorithms are very often skewed to seem more random than they actually are, because of the way humans veiw statistics

[lilac bear]

build my own

and Dell might be better

[manic torrent]

There are levels of randomness.