public-chat

[harsh quartz]

regular show is also far better than adventure time, but arcane still better

[vapid cypress]

In what way

They both masterpieces

[harsh quartz]

animation, plot, humor, sound design, music

[vapid cypress]

They are both good what are you on about

[harsh quartz]

im not saying ones bad, i never did, im just saying its not as good as the other one

[vapid cypress]

There is no better

[strange elk]

I can't attest for adventure time, but the overall story looks super interesting. I just get annoyed by the fluff.

[vapid cypress]

Sounds like a you problem

[strange elk]

[harsh quartz]

you claimed that it was the best animated series, and i posed an alternative, but now your saying that "there is no better" even though you already claimed that fiona and cake was the best

[strange elk]

I'd watch it if it were on my network.

[vapid cypress]

Fiona and cake are completely different Show than adventure time

[harsh quartz]

extremely similar

[strange elk]

I like the other spin off, tales

[harsh quartz]

and its also not, its called "adventure time:fiona and cake"

[vapid cypress]

Yeah the plot is connected but I'm talkin about fiona and cake rn

[vapid cypress]

I know 🤦‍♂️

[harsh quartz]

yes, and im saying arcanse, edgerunners, and FMA:brotherhood are all better

[harsh quartz]

then you cant say its a completey different show

[vapid cypress]

Because it is

It's not adventure time season 26

Or something

Not completely different

But different

[soft swan]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-a-name-ive-not-heard-in-many-years-gif-25204373

[vapid cypress]

Oh no it's the gumball fan

[harsh quartz]

gumball is amazing

[vapid cypress]

Yes

[harsh quartz]

far better than adventure time

[vapid cypress]

💀

What vendeta you have on adventure time

[harsh quartz]

its overhyped and mid with a bad community, similar to steven universe

[vapid cypress]

It isn't overhyped nor is it mid

The community idc

[harsh quartz]

it is

[strange elk]

proceeds to absolutely ignore the community because its usually like that

[harsh quartz]

"its not overhyped" while ignoring the community

[vapid cypress]

I'm not involved in the community one bit I don't give a tiny ounce about them

I watch the show for the show itself

[harsh quartz]

then you cant claim its not overhyped if you ignore the community

[strange elk]

I enjoyed Steven Universe, though there were questionable moments. Many.

[vapid cypress]

I can, because everybody who watched adventure time say they loved it

[vapid cypress]

I didn't like the ending but the show itself is fine

[strange elk]

Fair

SU had an issue with filler for sure

[vapid cypress]

Honestly I didn't notice it

Probably because I was kid

[strange elk]

Me neither but it was a whole thing. I had other things to watch at the time so I guess I wasn't bothered much until I got off track. Usually just stopped watching the show after that because spoilers, ive seen most by now but I still want to put a couple of them on my server along with adventure time so I have the chance to watch that

Gotta give gravity falls another watch

[vapid cypress]

Yeah all of them are great

Too bad gravity falls was so short

Because it was awesome

[strange elk]

Agreed. Invader zim, generator Rex and infinity train were ones I liked that got cut short.

But everyone likes invader zim.

[vapid cypress]

I'm not familiar with those shows but I definitely heard of them

Also flapjack was great

[strange elk]

Infinity train hit cn, got bought by HBO, and was subsequently left to the dust with them removing it from their platform.

[wispy marsh]

I don't like invader zim

I don't dislike it either, because I've never watched it

[vapid cypress]

Looks good on the covers

[strange elk]

https://tenor.com/view/invader-zim-sipping-drinking-gif-15512306

It was hard to say if it was for a younger or mature audience tbh. It definitely has mature themes

Interesting story told through different perspectives, and they all are referenced or met in crossroads over the seasons

Generator Rex wasn't popular enough I think is what happened with that.

[vapid cypress]

Chowder is also a great show

[nova ingot]

Taking a class with some undergraduates.
18 year old “How did you teach computing here when there weren’t computers 20 years ago?”
Prof starts describing the computer lab with Pentiums in 1999

It was Web 1.0 days but yeah we had computers and Internet and file sharing

[prime solstice]

I kinda wanna start a computer museum in my town

[vapid cypress]

You could do like a presentation as an event

Like a stand with the tech and then a wall of text explaining it

[harsh quartz]

Start a computer business that also just happens to have an extra room

[real portal]

Henlo

[harsh quartz]

Goodbye

[eager notch]

Go away

[wide whale]

I wonder about the next ltx.. would also have a whale package again.. so I can ask them the weight of the PC

[eager notch]

I found myself in the background of the newest LTT video

[long briar]

we saw a hugh-g-rection in ltt's video?

[tired glade]

Noice

[fossil frost]

yeah, he was the bald guy who talked shit about GN and other youtubers at LTT, and also did a 20 minute segment on coffee at one point... not as fun as you would think

ohh, different type of dick...

[long briar]

hahaha

good one

[eager notch]

Yeah, he's kind of a dick sometimes

[eager notch]

I actually have no idea who you're talking about

[fossil frost]

Tim, hes the tall bald guy who thought he personally was better than all other tech reviewers on youtube (based on his comments)

[eager notch]

Yeah, idk who that is

[neon mesa]

i still can't get over the X naming

trying to log in with twitter account on a website

it now says "Continue with X"

it's like a placeholder

[harsh quartz]

He’s just being an ass, he was one of the labs engineers who caught a bunch of shit for an offhand comment he made

[fossil frost]

a detailed, targeted, off hand comment

[harsh quartz]

it was neither detailed nor targetted, and he didnt say they were better

he said "what makes us different is that we retest every time" and that is none of what you said it is

[fossil frost]

"what makes s different to gamers nexus, or hardware unboxed, is that we retest every time"... he specifically named them

[harsh quartz]

okay, is that them saying that theyre better?

[fossil frost]

didnt explicitly say it, but given the context, he didnt have to say the exact words. the point is that not only did everyone else show that he lied, but LTT said he wasnt telling the truth either

[harsh quartz]

and he named them generally, not calling them out as being bad, like what a lot of people said he did

again, he stated to the best of his knowledge what he believe, it wasnt like he was making a PR statement for the company

[runic cobalt]

bread

[ionic abyss]

umm i assume the 3060 8gb i see on aliexpress for $19 is a scam right?

[dusty rune]

yes

[ionic abyss]

darn

[eager notch]

For $60, I'll screen all the posts from aliexpress and tell you if they are a scam

[lilac bear]

bro don't

at least you can watch all of Adventure Time without skipping a season

[spice pine]

regular show doesn’t have Marceline, so you’re wrong

[harsh quartz]

Regular show does have dad bod coffee beans and cannibalistic hot dogs tho

[harsh quartz]

Why would I want to tho is the question

[lilac bear]

you unironically enjoy Mordecai failing to date?

the whole ass arc of "OH MARGARET IM SORRY"

[left viper]

Ray Dio seems like a fun person since everyone wants to turn him up

[hazy solstice]

“Ma I made it into the background of an LTT video”

[harsh quartz]

I’ll be honestly I don’t remember most of the show I just remember it being funnier than adventure time

[vagrant sluice]

Does anyone have a countermail invite

[cinder wing]

What would you bid for these 3 items as used all together??

Steelseries Apex 350 toetsenbord
Steelseries Arctis 5 headset
Steelseries Rival 100 muis

Saw a set on marketplace. Did a bid of 70. but idk if its reasonable

[long briar]

Headset I'd give no more than 10. Used gamer gear is gross. mouse maybe another 10, any more and I'd recommend getting new. Keyboard is utter garbage and you'd have to pay me to use it

honestly it's all kinda bad stuff....

mainly because it's all used

[cinder wing]

oh well damn xD

Maybe i should get rid of the bid then lol

but headset is 100, and KB is 100, Mouse i think 50. thought 70 allrdy sounds decent,

[harsh quartz]

At least 50cents

[long briar]

you can retract a bid?

but yea the headset is expensive only because it's steelseries

but I Really don't like used gamer audio

[harsh quartz]

Used gamer gunk

[long briar]

since you're paying for not good audio AND already soaked grime in the earpads

[ionic abyss]

how bad could 64gb of ddr4 3600 ram from temu be at $70

[long briar]

probably legit actually

[harsh quartz]

That actually doesn’t sound too bad

[long briar]

but it also seems like normal price

[harsh quartz]

Ddr4 is cheap now

[cinder wing]

Ram prices going down like crazy

[long briar]

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20230803PD221/dram-memory-chips.html

[cinder wing]

Bought ddr5 32 gb for 180 at a store.Z 6 motnhs later it went down to 100 euros…

[harsh quartz]

Reverse bell curve, gotta love economies of scale

[cinder wing]

Felt robbed lul.

[shrewd sparrow]

Not that cheap

[harsh quartz]

yeah, but its a cheap item, thats also on temu, so its gonna be chearper

[shrewd sparrow]

Yea but still I'd be careful

They'll prolly send like 32gb in a single stick and say they forgot the other or sum

[harsh quartz]

oh absolutely, but its not like, and INSANELY CHEAP thing

[sick coral]

this design fucking sucks

[echo canopy]

you're just cringe

[echo canopy]

nothing. its steel series

that was fast

[prime solstice]

It’s cool where do you find a phone like that irl made by a well known company

[gilded forge]

that's an extremely hot take. and wrong.

[vapid smelt]

you make one 😛

[gilded forge]

also I own the nothing ear (2) buds and I love them so

[echo canopy]

theyre pretty good besides the non existent sound stage but thats common with earbuds

[hazy topaz]

Why doesn’t my head phone work in my cases 3.5 slot

[echo canopy]

Also Chay Cells have posted NSFW twice but idk if its him or the mods deleting it

[karmic wedge]

nice spam email mate

[dreamy rose]

I'm gonna have a, Very big problem with my Sister when she finds out about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-PYqMxXKKk

[dreamy rose]

the most pathetic attempt of a scam possible.

[karmic wedge]

real

[echo canopy]

the moble youtube ui sucks

[dreamy rose]

Youtube sucks

[echo canopy]

nothing better exists

[dreamy rose]

never said there was. but sadly thats the reality.

[echo canopy]

inb4 floatplane

[lavish elm]

wait what car does Luke drive?

[slim yacht]

in reality it actually looked pretty nice without those light turned on

[lilac bear]

Your Mother

[lavish elm]

you are one funny person

let me just quickly start laughing

[eager notch]

When we thought Elon couldn't make Twitter any worse.

[sick coral]

i mean it isnt the worst thing in the world but it feels so "been there done that", yknow?

i want more tacky designs

[gilded forge]

example?

[sick coral]

im not saying this is a generic design by any means, im just saying that this "transparent, clean looking" design feels outdated in alotta ways

[gilded forge]

have you been paying attention to any design trends? companies want minimalist, sleek designs that can go unnoticed. look at the newly unveiled iPhone 15 models...no bright colors.

[echo canopy]

bro who makes a modern transparent phone.

[gilded forge]

it's just the design trend that the tech industry is moving towards. and I love it.

[sick coral]

thats why i said before, "i want more tacky designs"

[gilded forge]

and personally, I hated the design of the iPhone 5c.

[echo canopy]

yeah it was ass

[lilac bear]

I want Elon to do it just to finally kill off Twitter

[vapid smelt]

whats twitter

[sick coral]

i mean yeah this def isnt the style for everyone, but i at least want the option to choosee "shrek green"" or "twitter blue" at checkout rather than literally going thru all the different shades of gray

[eager notch]

Honestly fine with me

[karmic wedge]

woah I can't believe it

[lilac bear]

X (formally known as Twitter)
SORRY

[sick coral]

the most recent 2 phones with an interesting design were the rog phone 5 and the pixel fold

one of them had a gimmic and one of them had an rgb matrix on the back

[gilded forge]

they both have gimmicks. fold, and "gamer" phone

[echo canopy]

the pixel fold looks like dogshit and reminded me of the Surface Duo

[sick coral]

joke lmao

[gilded forge]

is that the one with the huge bezel on the middle like a DS?

[echo canopy]

i wouldnt call it huge

[gilded forge]

well, still DS ass lookin thing

[echo canopy]

also daily reminder that manual is still faster then automatics

[full fossil]

google fold isnt worth it i bet the second iteration would be more competitive with the galaxy fold

[echo canopy]

it has a 5 watt hour battery

for context a 13 mini has 9

its a really shitty phone tablet monstrosity

[full fossil]

i think the design and screen dimensions are more enjoyable than the fold

usability wise its a waste of money

[echo canopy]

both are still worse then a normal phone

[full fossil]

well

i would own the zfold 5 but i already have a flip 4 and a 14 pro max for now

gonna wait for a good deal to get the fold 5 i dont like the flip

fold phones are really for the flex factor

[echo canopy]

It still make sacrifice in every department

[full fossil]

if youre looking at a specs sheet yeah, but on paper vs if you have a use for the feature makes what it is on paper useless if you can utilize the size properly

[echo canopy]

I meant the z flip

Wtf you doing on a fold to “make use” of the larger display

[full fossil]

i do some investing in my down time at work

plus i need a work phone either way

[lilac bear]

if you don't game, then the Flip 5 is good enough

hell the camera is actually pretty good for that you'd expect

[echo canopy]

let me spend 2x the price for a overal inferior experience besides being able to open it like my old motorola razer

[lilac bear]

then stick with your old ass phone then

no one asked how poor you are

wait it has a Snapdragon 8 gen 2
WHAT DO YOU MEAN POOR PERFORMANCE

[dusky jacinth]

Even rich people would have liked that old "poor man's" phones we used to have. Lol.

[echo canopy]

I never said it had bad performance but due to the folding design it has a smaller surface area to disapeat the heat so i assume it would thermal throttle.
the gen 2 also still has a worse cpu then iirc even the A13 bionic and it only out preforms with gpu because they like doubled the gpu core count

[sterile nest]

Should I get an RX 6950XT and play on 1080p or get an RX 6750XT and a 1440p screen budget is 2K CAD?

[echo canopy]

only the 6950xt/ >= 6800xt has full ROCm support if you want to use something like stable diffusion or get it working in blender

[lilac bear]

are you saying we should move back to basic OS flipphones

and ditch smartphones

[graceful burrow]

id be down for that

[lilac bear]

you're literally saying 8gen2 is terrible

[echo canopy]

in cpu yes it always has been

the gpu is decent tho

[vapid smelt]

1440p 144hz screen is only $330

[lilac bear]

so I am right that you're saying flip 5 is terrible performance

[echo canopy]

no

[lilac bear]

yes

don't back out now

[sterile nest]

yes but my budget is 1700$

[full fossil]

I mean, apple just shits on anything Qualcomm tbh

I don't even like apple

[echo canopy]

stop putting words in my mouth. i didnt even compare to to iphones (the only thing that beats it) just that its worse then a normal andoird

[vapid smelt]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/gCBG3C/asrock-phantom-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx7900xtx-pg-24go https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/JPrYcf/gigabyte-g27q-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-g27q 1686 cad

[full fossil]

I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm sharing my opinion

[slim yacht]

the funny thing is they still use arm cores but with tsmc foundry which is also exactly what the hell qualcomm is doing minus that huge cache apple chip have on every chip

[sterile nest]

for a whole pc sorry I didn't say

[vapid smelt]

ah

[echo canopy]

Im talking about Riverence

[sterile nest]

Bro caught me in a lie

[lilac bear]

bro everyone lying in chat

[sterile nest]

I have people helping me out

[sterile nest]

so 2K is assuming the best

[full fossil]

Apple isn't using anything other than ISA. They have their own architecture so premade ARM cores

[lilac bear]

Android users admitting Apple is better (IMPOSSIBLE)

[full fossil]

I have 3 mobile devices, all android lol

[slim yacht]

im an android user, in terms of chip efficiency and design they actually are better

[sterile nest]

60hz screen and USB-C 2.0 in 2023 ah yes better 👍

[lilac bear]

but you just said A13 better than 8gen2

[sterile nest]

(joking)

[lilac bear]

[sterile nest]

Apples Chips are better

[echo canopy]

that was me and i said only in cpu.

[slim yacht]

who lol

[sterile nest]

but everything else samsung is better

optimization apple wins 110%

[full fossil]

Ew Samsung

[lilac bear]

you guys are coping hard

[sterile nest]

its preference

[echo canopy]

samsung wont let you share a wifi password unless the other person has a samsung and it wont even just display it and let you type it out like a FUCKING IPHONE WILL

[lilac bear]

"Apple is terrible"
"oh A13 is best"

[slim yacht]

it varies really heavily. any flagship with almost same samsung system will yield similar results

[echo canopy]

the walled garden of samsung is somehow FUCKING WORSE THEN APPLE

[echo canopy]

please shut the fuck up

[sterile nest]

what do you mean? lmao

[full fossil]

I have a Samsung phone, two Sony phones and a fire tablet. They all have benefits and drawbacks

[echo canopy]

the only share option for wifi on my mothers s22 is a QR code that only works on other samsungs

[slim yacht]

eh if i remember correctly i just share my wifi password using qr code to any other phone and they connect immediately

[lilac bear]

that's what you are saying

[echo canopy]

its not

[sterile nest]

not nessesvarily (idk how to spell it) 12gb ram to 8gb 120hz to 60hz only thing that apple does WAY BETTER is optimization and better CPU

[dusky jacinth]

I'm assuming Riverence is both a high-end shill and one of this server's trolls now.

[echo canopy]

yes

[full fossil]

The GPU on apple chips are amazing for what they are

[sterile nest]

yes, that too

[lilac bear]

they saying 8gen2 is terrible

but if it was slapped into a budget phone

[echo canopy]

yeah snapdragons cheat by just doubling core counts and cutting the clocks in half

[manic torrent]

My G502X arrived, holy crap it's light

[sterile nest]

8 gen2 is good but apple cpu and gpu is better

[lilac bear]

then it would magically be a good CPU

[sterile nest]

is that a mouse?

[echo canopy]

no. the gen2 has a faster gpu because of what i just said

[sterile nest]

its good

[echo canopy]

they literally doubled the core count and halfed clocks

[dusky jacinth]

And they essentially share the same ISA as let's say... Moore Threads and their desktop gpus.
And we know which ones are definitely better.

[slim yacht]

apple does the same as amd on how they tackle performance which is by giving huge cache to its chip while qualcomm only relies on pure core to core performance. not sure why qualcomm dont follow the same style but okay i guess

[sterile nest]

i ain't know peripherals at all

[lilac bear]

stop using words

[full fossil]

Hence why I said "for what they are" meaning size and power

[echo canopy]

its not just cache they have a outright better core design and pipeline

[sterile nest]

is it? I don't know about gpu at all i was assuming

[slim yacht]

its the truth lol. qualcomm couldve just put more cache instead of pushing higher clockspeed

[sterile nest]

I know that apples cpu is better

[echo canopy]

the reference ARM core designs suck ass and thats why apple uses a in house design

[sterile nest]

Just not a fan how they still have 60hz and have usb-c 2.0 in 2023

[lilac bear]

calling me a high end shill when I am defending SAMSUNG

[dusky jacinth]

Optimization reasons, I guess.
Apple can centralize a SoC-wide shared L3 cache and devs can work with it, while Qualcomm... Pretty much shares the room with literally every other SoC designer out there like Samsung, MediaTek, TI (originally), and so on.

[echo canopy]

samsung is the korean apple

[dusky jacinth]

I mean... Don't they count though?

[slim yacht]

mass production issue

[lilac bear]

oh all of a sudden Samsung not that good

[dreamy rose]

i still have 60hz and USB 2.0

[sterile nest]

samsung is good and better in apple some ways except apples cpu and optimization is better

[dusky jacinth]

Well then again, who am I kidding? ASUS, Redmi, Sony, and even Razer all had high-end phones to sell too. Lol.

[sterile nest]

starting to get outdated

[slim yacht]

eh just use which one you like most. just dont get a phone that would overheat the fuck out (ahem any snapdragon 888 phone)

[echo canopy]

bro i couldnt share a fucking wifi password on a samsung with a non samsung user

[dusky jacinth]

Because they have a more predictable and repeated spec target on each of their designs.

[sterile nest]

yes

[full fossil]

That's because they use last gen chips on their "lower end" devices. Which makes sense from a business standpoint

[sterile nest]

ima go now

[echo canopy]

no its literally just because they don't use the reference designs

[dusky jacinth]

It's like they've always been with their macs since the old days. Everything is just built to be their own.

[vapid smelt]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/rMh9N6 $1783 with a 7700xt and 1440p 170hz display

[dreamy rose]

FYM "Starting"? USB 2.0 is 23 years old

[sterile nest]

yes but they should still have 120hz atleast 90hz on their base models

[slim yacht]

i like how this place is fire everyday lol

[dusky jacinth]

Which like I said, they are built to be their own: custom hardware.

[lilac bear]

😭

[full fossil]

Maybe the chip can't do it? I dunno

[sterile nest]

i mean pixel 7a is 300$ and is 90hz

[vapid smelt]

im as old as usb 2.0

[echo canopy]

qualcom slaps on maybe a X1 and 3 A72 cores and then the rest are A52 cores which are shit to begin with and then A52 cores are botton of the barrel

[sterile nest]

it can the 14 pro had 120hz

[lilac bear]

yeah but base iPhone is still 60hz for some reason

[echo canopy]

Qualcom could do better if they tried or had the money but dont.

[slim yacht]

on the other spectrum mediatek is actually making good chip. this might be a very cotroversial take but im loving it

[full fossil]

Then they just cheaping out as usual. (Not that I would care, I don't get a benefit over 60Hz personally)

[sterile nest]

ik its getting ridiculous tbh now

[dreamy rose]

nobody is feeling the sads more than me. i only have USB 2 and i should have at least one 3.0 port. Fuck you acer you cheap bastards for skimpng out on USB3 in 2012.

[echo canopy]

YES, especially when it came to early AV1 adoption

[sterile nest]

and that's okay I just think that 120hz is a standard now

1000$ phone and 60hz

[dusky jacinth]

Or they could, but they just... Don't want to.
They're not as big as Intel or AMD, but Qualcomm is up there, especially if one of their own can afford to start his own third-world targeted console maker. Lol.

[sterile nest]

basing off CAD Prices

[slim yacht]

qualcomm is actually huge if you look at just mobile market

[full fossil]

Yeah but you have to accept that to apple their entry level phones are their equivalent to 150dollar Android phone (IMO) despite the cost. They have a completely different customer base

[sterile nest]

yes, very true I agree

I have an s20 rn and it does me well

[echo canopy]

apple still has better UI animtions even if they dont have a 120hz pannel on the low end

[lilac bear]

base 15 is definitely high lighting the issues with Apple

[full fossil]

So when you take that thinking into account, the 60Hz makes sense

[sterile nest]

most of their customer base is old people or people who know nothing about tech

[vapid smelt]

buys 120hz phone to watch 60fps netflix and youtube

[sterile nest]

not really I disagree with that

[dreamy rose]

if they are equal than they should be the same price no?

[sterile nest]

it should still be 120hz given todays standards

[full fossil]

That's not how markets work

[sterile nest]

you know apple

[slim yacht]

the thing with apple phone is their low end phone is actually quite high end vs its android peers lol

[echo canopy]

I probably know more about tech then you and use a iphone

[vapid smelt]

sheep!

[sterile nest]

keyword "most"

not all

[full fossil]

You can buy a bag for 25 dollars and a bag for 250 dollars and they effectively do the same thing. Just different target consumers

[sterile nest]

I still think they should have 120hz no matter what tbh atleast 90hz

[sterile nest]

Very true but there still is a standard

[full fossil]

From a customer point yes, but from a business point... not really

[dreamy rose]

and the Exceptions are brainwashed into thinking their phones are decent.

[vapid smelt]

https://www.lttstore.com/products/backpack

[sterile nest]

a bag still has to carry a certain weight

[sterile nest]

shameless ads

[echo canopy]

yeah sure im brainwashed totally

[sterile nest]

true but I just think they should samsung has 120hz on 99% of their products

[vapid smelt]

says the ad

[full fossil]

If you(apple) can sell every phone you make with a 60Hz screen and get $3 more per device then you(apple) should do that when you have shareholders

[dreamy rose]

ok but if the Android is a better experience for cheaper than why not buy that?

[sterile nest]

yes

[sterile nest]

bro 😂😂😂

[full fossil]

Their only obligation is to make as much profit as they can for shareholders at the end of the day

[echo canopy]

its not better, its different

[sterile nest]

its so annoying i swear

[full fossil]

I own 3 android phones, so that tells you where I stand

[sterile nest]

everytime i look my name up for yt or anything

[vapid smelt]

how many people are you cheating on?

[dusky jacinth]

That's... Not actually a bad point.

[sterile nest]

Yes, but 120hz is still a standard i get your point though

[dreamy rose]

this isn't a pissing contest about who owns the most phones.

[full fossil]

I just like tech

[full fossil]

No one said it was?

[sterile nest]

ima sue them 😡😡😡 fuckers stole my name

They better regret it 😤😤😤

[vapid smelt]

your broke ass cant win thats why you wont join the pissing battle

[sterile nest]

I can piss in the morning without it going in 3 different directions 😎

[full fossil]

I have multiple phones, laptops, PCs etc. I enjoy tech, I don't do holidays, I don't drive, and I don't get to go out of the house much because I'm disabled. So I enjoy tech

[slim yacht]

seems my obsession with collecting tech shit i dont need is universal lol

[dreamy rose]

A, i don't care
B, its Horribly off topic from our conversation

[echo canopy]

lets not forget google photos and the likes dont support encryption and they corrupted a lot of old photos on google photos
https://9to5google.com/2022/09/25/google-photos-corrupted/

[slim yacht]

a no compromise answer is just preference

[echo canopy]

to call android a "better experience" is far fetch to say the least

[slim yacht]

you should see a guy i met in university who is a huge fan of huawei lol

[dreamy rose]

to call iOS decent is a Far Fetch.

[echo canopy]

mald

[dusky jacinth]

I personally find iOS frustrating, but then a very minimally-messed with Android install is something I'm fine with versus full clean or fully bloated.

I tend to be in that weird spot where I'm just like "I can accept having some things here and that's fine, whereas everything else is a mess and the other side (iOS) is just pure pain to troubleshoot or deal with the BS of."

[slim yacht]

if anything many of custom android ui have some kind of problem one way or the other. clean android is usually greenest out of all

[echo canopy]

I dont spend enough time on my phone or care to to care about minimalism or whatever. i just want it to work. if i want to fuck around and find out i would do that on my arch install

[dusky jacinth]

I don't find it to be. I just find it to be a bit too... Basic for what I want to have.

[full fossil]

I don't buy apple because I hate the ethos of the company personally. As they become more repairable (as right to repair laws pass), theoretically I may buy their devices. It's like AMD, I love the company and have a couple of their CPUs but their GPUs are just trash(for my workload) so I don't buy them.

[dreamy rose]

Cope. iOS has always Sucked. always fed off of features that android introduced years before under new names and added bullshit trends everybody fuckin hates.

[slim yacht]

what do you look for specifically?

[echo canopy]

they generally wait and do it better

[dusky jacinth]

Uuuhhh iOS sorta came first though, so instead, it went off of what came before both really?

[echo canopy]

cough airdrop also does not have a android equivalent... at all

[full fossil]

I would love an M1 or M2 MacBook though for video editing if I had the slate cash right now

[dreamy rose]

but thats no excuse for removing the headphone jack.

[slim yacht]

watch android manufacturer following iphone move putting thunderbolt in their type c. android is as guilty as apple

[full fossil]

Nearby share on android

[dusky jacinth]

Well I'm talking software, not hardware.

[echo canopy]

same

[echo canopy]

for the 5 devices that support it

[dreamy rose]

its something Anti consumer, Industrywide caused by iOS Devices.

[full fossil]

PS I really think they should have reused the Android beam branding

[dusky jacinth]

Before iOS and Android, there was Palm OS, Blackberry OS, and Symbian.

[full fossil]

I mean, most modern devices support it afaik. Though I've never needed to use it

[full fossil]

To this day I miss my blackberry pearl

[dusky jacinth]

And still to this day, I like the Palm Pre series and wish I had one over my old Samsung Juke at times...

[vapid smelt]

ok boomer

[full fossil]

Im not even old enough to be a millennial

[dusky jacinth]

Why did you call me out this way?

[olive stump]

Cringe

[full fossil]

It doesn't matter who does it first, it matters who does it right. And typically, apple does it right

[dreamy rose]

damn right iOS is cringe

[strange elk]

ios 10 was nice. So was 9

[olive stump]

God I remember jail breaking Symbian back in the day

[strange elk]

last couple i liked though, 10 being my favorite

[olive stump]

Was the only way to get GPS working properly on Nokia was to break s60

[olive stump]

People undervalue UI/UX something fierce

[full fossil]

Definitely

[olive stump]

You can have all the features you want but if they’re unusable what’s the point?

[dusky jacinth]

All while skimping or axing certain things.
Though I will say that they kinda easily get away with it, since it doesn't hurt their market much for people to go elsewhere.

[full fossil]

Yeah, this is coming from someone who hasn't had an apple device since the 3rd gen iPod touch

[olive stump]

Hot take: Cutting out underused/difficult “options” is a good thing, having options for the sake of ✨customisation✨ makes a product both harder to use and support

Now, does Apple overdo it and then lock down too hard after the fact?
Absolutely

[dusky jacinth]

I've noticed this often. Strangely, if you look at all the spaces that focus on such design work, Apple gave it a kick in the butt, then others came along to match them somehow in their own way, then Microsoft got it together, and then here in the background the open source communities come up with several takes on what they think works and some of them... Honestly do work in their own way.

[full fossil]

The thing is, no matter your opinion, the facts don't lie, apple is one of the best performing corporations in the world. So they are doing something right

[dreamy rose]

yay, i absolutely adore not being able to customise my phone to be my own and having it look the same as everyone elses, Really makes me feel like a number! isn't that just a Magical feeling?

[strange elk]

Why things like developer mode exist. Apple needs more of that at the very least, a locked down section of the phone that can give you those customization options

[olive stump]

It’s funny you mention open source, gnome 45 dropped today and it’s great to see the level of UI/UX refinement come through on it

[full fossil]

I'm a massive fan of the revamped unity DE

[strange elk]

And not like something that some random ass carrier like verizon can restrict

muh pixel

[olive stump]

100% - a semi-supported developer/advanced mode (even if it’s just a TUI-based perfs file) would go a long way especially in Apple-land

[dusky jacinth]

Oh man, GNOME, KDE Plasma, Budgie, Cinnamon, and Deepin really set standards quite well.

[olive stump]

Same, I usually just throw 3-4 extensions at it and bring it back to normiecore DE

[dusky jacinth]

Hell, even the mobile targeted versions of GNOME and KDE Touch seem to be getting better over time.

[strange elk]

I just installed mint Cinnamon on my new old laptop and man its so nice compared to Arch and a couple of its distros

[dreamy rose]

KDE Plasma is THE Golden standard for a desktop, nobody adheres to it though.

[full fossil]

I think that's my go to ATM, unity that is

[full fossil]

I for some reason never got on with KDE plasma, which is a shame because it's pretty nice

[strange elk]

KDE plasma was a bit much. I liked it before but Cinnamon is just right

[dusky jacinth]

I mean... It's the UNIX space who tends to pay attention to it's existence most of the time.
Pretty damn well expected that everyone's gonna see it and then like... Just do their own thing anyway. Lmao.

[olive stump]

We’re definitely getting closer to it being feasible to daily drive Linux without many compromises anymore

[full fossil]

For office and such we are already there

[dreamy rose]

its already there, just people don't think its ready for big time

[strange elk]

Its not.

[olive stump]

KDE still has too many sharp edges for my liking, they also aren’t fostering the 3rd party “standard” apps nearly as well as Gnome is

[full fossil]

It isn't there yet

[dusky jacinth]

I mean, if Steam OS 3 proves it's possible, and then Pop OS and Mint can accomplish the same, we're definitely not far off.

[manic torrent]

yes

[strange elk]

VR is a big example, and nvidia drivers are still shit

[olive stump]

The customization and power-user support for KDE is excellent tho

[dusky jacinth]

The only thing stopping that from working out is... Well...

[olive stump]

Office?

[dusky jacinth]

Doing the one thing that would not make sense to do in the open source world.

[echo canopy]

I exclusively use arch linux so depending on the person its already a thing

[full fossil]

For use in an office environment

[dreamy rose]

Sure is.

[strange elk]

Install windows

[full fossil]

As someone who uses GNU/Linux everyday, or just isn't

[dusky jacinth]

Nono. Move all work to one or a small few distros and close-source it.

[olive stump]

God no, Microsoft has their hooks in that space so hard atm, I’m hoping the breakaway from AD to zero-trust SAML-y type services will change that but it’ll be slooow

[strange elk]

oh ew god no

[dreamy rose]

i mean. ChromeOS is Big. its Gentoo.

[strange elk]

chromeos is one of those i guess huh.

[graceful burrow]

not anymore

[full fossil]

I worked in an office that used Google workspace, it was all Ubuntu and chromeOS machines

[dusky jacinth]

Yeah, but that's just Gentoo done Google's way really.

[manic torrent]

I'm actually working on a multi authority SAML setup that means you don't have to have complete trust in your single SSO setup 🙂

[strange elk]

And android is similar

[dusky jacinth]

Now they're planning to drop it, leaving it open sourced while moving to their own kernel and whatnot for their official stuff, I believe.

[olive stump]

Ehhh good to get that in now before all the IdPs lock down how federation works in the wake of Otka’s recent fuckups

[dreamy rose]

ChromeOS is the joke distro made by the big google. so its not really a joke distro.

[olive stump]

Lowkey that sounds amazing

[strange elk]

Its telemetry

Like Windows

[full fossil]

It was pretty great

[manic torrent]

yeah this isolates you from okta or whoevers fuckups

[dreamy rose]

Still its Gentoo

[strange elk]

Its not recognizeable as gentoo

[dreamy rose]

Purists might not like it. its still Linux.

[dusky jacinth]

Now I'm still waiting for Solus' eventual comeback with the next updates.

[echo canopy]

the only thing that makes gentoo gentoo is the repos (which i assume they use their own) and portage

[olive stump]

The issue with Otka was adding a federated IdP or auth app didn’t trigger much alerting

Difficult to isolate should that sorta thing happen

[full fossil]

It was a charity and they did everything to keep costs low. And they worked out it was cheaper to teach us Linux than pay MS fees

[strange elk]

It really does just feel like the android is linux thing again.

[graceful burrow]

is linux

[manic torrent]

yeah but it doesn't matter what the issue with okta is, if you're using my new MAA design, it means that you don't login unless okta AND this service agree

[dusky jacinth]

Well Android's weird, maybe even weirder than before.

[strange elk]

its based on linux, Idk if I can call it linux at all

[dreamy rose]

well. again. it is linux

[olive stump]

Charity/non-profits running their IT on threadbare budgeting with 2 competent IT dudes is so based ☺️

[dusky jacinth]

So I don't even know whether to call it Linux anymore or not.

It started out that way, then... They changed it at the core, by a flipton.

[strange elk]

I never called chromeos linux

Why should I do it with android

[dusky jacinth]

I knew Chrome OS was Linux, I just ignored it.

[echo canopy]

android is linux.

[olive stump]

Let me know if/when you publish something publicly about it. Always keen to poke at new IDAM setups

[full fossil]

I miss it tbh, especially because I got to be the hero who fixed things from time to time

[strange elk]

Y'all mustve been popular in hs

[echo canopy]

because both are, they use linux software

[graceful burrow]

come to nerd server
is surprised when everyone is nerd

[full fossil]

I was pretty popular tbh

[dusky jacinth]

Android I wanted to accept it as it's own rightful key distro, but like... With Google's plans and their own custom in-house kernel on the horizon, I don't know if Android will stay as Linux for any much longer.

[olive stump]

Define: popular

[strange elk]

Absolutely not what I was saying lmfao

[olive stump]

I went to a Christian high school as an avowed atheist/socialist, you tell me

[graceful burrow]

nah, but it was what you were implying
glad we could have this talk

[dusky jacinth]

I never got to go to an actual hs. I was homeschooled against my will after 2nd grade in a school.

[strange elk]

It also wasnt what I was implying love

[dreamy rose]

GTX 1060 Popular

[graceful burrow]

which one

[full fossil]

The popular one 🤣

[dreamy rose]

is the 6GB the one everyone had or was it the 3?

[graceful burrow]

you dont know?

[strange elk]

1060?

[olive stump]

I’ve got that big GTX 1080 energy 💪

[graceful burrow]

model?

sporting a fresh msi twin frozr gtx 1080

[dreamy rose]

no, theres fucking multiple and SHS tells you jack shit about that.

[full fossil]

4070ti X3 energy here

[olive stump]

Asus Strix, slightly overpriced but somehow hasn’t died

[graceful burrow]

lol
lmao, even

[strange elk]

Id get the 3gb. totally

[full fossil]

I really wanna buy a fourth

[olive stump]

Congrats on your space heater

[full fossil]

Gotta get them folding points

[slim yacht]

slightly is uh.... not slightly

[olive stump]

Back then: slightly

[dusky jacinth]

[olive stump]

They were carrying a $30-$80 premium

[full fossil]

Anyway guys, I'm off to sleep, 0135 here. Have a good night everyone, Nvidia rules!

[dreamy rose]

rules at class action lawsuits if we had rights.

[graceful burrow]

ill have a night

[graceful burrow]

them ruling at lawsuits would mean they win dingus

[slim yacht]

[dreamy rose]

because they are a Trillion dollar company. how the fuck we gonna lawyer up against them for insulting our intelligence and Wallets when we allow em to spend billions on mr Chuck McGill over there. by buying their overpriced crap

[graceful burrow]

thats not even

you completely ignored what i said lmao

average bss reply

[full fossil]

Hurr durr capitalism bad

When you are trying to decide if someone is an idiot, a troll or a shill... or some mix of the options... Ahem imma leave now. Byeeeeeeee

[dreamy rose]

"i accept being forced to pay a subscription for features i already own"

[timid meadow]

Hey Bionic, does it make you rage that the guy who wrote task manager daily drives a macbook that runs windows?

[full fossil]

I literally never paid Apple for any kind of subscription

Or Nvidia, or AMD, or anything.

So I don't see your point on paying things that I should have.

[dreamy rose]

he can do what he wants i dont give a shit.

[timid meadow]

Fair

[echo canopy]

they have patents on several things you've probably paid royalties for

[strange elk]

surprising

[vapid smelt]

no wonder why its so shit

[dreamy rose]

just like i have the right to spit the truth about how shit MacOS is. he can run Whatever Windows on Whatever computer.

i do too. i just don't wanna run Windows. i want to put Linux on Everything

[slim yacht]

anything not linux drives him nuts man

[dreamy rose]

Anything that doesn't work pisses me off. like these fucking windows updates that wont install. Blocking me from using the fucking Minecraft Launcher

[slim yacht]

remind me what youre using again?

[dreamy rose]

Windows 10,

[slim yacht]

as in the actual hardware

[dreamy rose]

a Travelmate 5760G Will still run Minecraft. no reason for it not to.

[slim yacht]

[dreamy rose]

do they literally hide all kinds of Errors behind one Vague ass Code just because they cant be arsed being specific about how shit their software is??

[dusky jacinth]

[olive stump]

-has opinions-

“Truth”
🤨

[dreamy rose]

Anyone whos ever touched MacOS knows how its the biggest piece of Dogshit

[graceful burrow]

i like macos

[dusky jacinth]

Personally, I liked Mac OS back in it's OSX days.

[slim yacht]

bro reminds me of that one guy in school nobody talks to and wears a hoodie 24/7

[graceful burrow]

yeah but this guy never shuts up

same shit every day with em

[dusky jacinth]

And having grown up on both 7 and 8.1, I also like System OS before OSX.

[olive stump]

I used MacOS for a decade, it’s very good at quite a few things

Even put my mum onto it for usability / ease of support reasons

[dusky jacinth]

I even got nostalgic when Linus showed some of his editors System 7.

Because that was my very first introduction to using a computer back when I was 3-4.

[lean steeple]

If anyone outside of my friend group were to see my pc right now, I would be roasted to no end

[olive stump]

“MacOS is shit”
Is the same cringe vibe as
“Your issue is that you’re using the wrong Linux distro bc you’re an idiot, you should be using x”

[dusky jacinth]

And then my first personal computer was actually the very first iMac, the first revision G3 with System 8.1.

[dreamy rose]

thats fine that you think a Valid statement is cringe, But nostalgia can cloud your Vision. and thats Extra cringe.

[dusky jacinth]

That was also my mom back in her early days of working with computers, which at the time were mostly DOS machines and she worked at a company too.

[dreamy rose]

i Used windows 7. do you see me wishing it was those days again?

[olive stump]

Lmao “nostalgia”
Lmao “valid”

Gatekeepy neckbeard takes is never “valid” 🙂

[dreamy rose]

never said anything Gatekeepy. i just stated a fact.

[dusky jacinth]

Personally, I've always thought about trying Amiga OS, just that I can't ever work up the interest to get motivated enough to use it yet.

[dreamy rose]

hard pill to swallow

[olive stump]

Bruh your whole vibe is gatekeeping

https://tenor.com/view/tea-good-morning-love-messages-gif-25662378

[dreamy rose]

hell basically a death sentence for the Apple faithful for anyone to dare say anything but Mac is the best.

[olive stump]

On that note I got some fun shit to look it 🤙 Adiós

[dusky jacinth]

Sooooooo what about the Pippin?

:)

[dreamy rose]

Its a Mac, in a Console Shell. what about it?

[graceful burrow]

<@&750150305383186585> ive never seen him do anything but shitpost and gatekeep anything that isnt linux or amd, extremely aggressive

[timid meadow]

Tbf, im the one who provoked him XD

[graceful burrow]

he's like this at all times anyway

[lilac bear]

Adlson is onto us

[graceful burrow]

its tiring, it doesnt belong here

[dusky jacinth]

So is the Atari XEGS and the Amiga CD32, but that ain't the point. Lol.

[dreamy rose]

you tried, but i just said a man can do whatever he wants with his hardware.

[lilac bear]

so you admit Apple is good

[dreamy rose]

no. i just Support basic rights. aka being able to own your hardware,

[graceful burrow]

now he's walking back to try to seem friendly so the mods dont mute him

[wispy marsh]

I like how WatchOS10 looks and feels

[graceful burrow]

absolutely manipulative

[wispy marsh]

Yo Bionic being Bionic

[dusky jacinth]

You know they have logs though, right?

[graceful burrow]

for real

[graceful burrow]

what would logs do if the messages are still there
im calling out him being manipulative
is he not

[dreamy rose]

you act like i haven't been saying the same thing this whole time.

[graceful burrow]

i never said he deleted his messages

[wispy marsh]

Bionic's just like me when I stop repressing my negative feelings, but more tame

[graceful burrow]

i said hes walking them back to try and seem not as bad

he's insanely aggressive he just isnt now because i called him out and tagged mods

[dreamy rose]

Do whatever the fuck you want with your hardware, run whatever. i can only guide people the right way.

[wispy marsh]

I doubt someone who kisses Mom before sleep can be aggressive much

[dreamy rose]

you ping the mods everyday dude. they are probably sick of it at this point.

[wispy marsh]

It's just public chat

[graceful burrow]

i ping the mods for things i think are breaking the rules, as i follow the rules

extreme elitism has no place here

[dusky jacinth]

I don't see that.
I just see you guys get pretty heated, enough to get direct with each other when you don't need to, and then all the rest of it to me is like watching arguments in the other tech server I moderate in and comparatively I still find it painful to watch them here, while the other place it can actually be funny or insightful in some ways.

[wispy marsh]

We can go over to Steve's server, they hate us here

[graceful burrow]

stick around longer so you can form a whole opinion this goes way back

[wispy marsh]

It's fine

Someday, Bionic will find someone who makes them feel like their speech now taste like mass-produced lemons

Someone that'd love them

Today's not the day, be patient

[dusky jacinth]

I dunno how long I might stick, honestly.
There's a reason why various users I know in the other server I keep mentioning have claimed to have migrated there from here and other places.
Same story every time, even if sometimes the individuals themselves are questionable in behavior too.

[wispy marsh]

Alternatively, you can join the floatplane community

I can't tell you more but you'll know when you do

[olive stump]

OOF

[dusky jacinth]

I can't because I never found the justification to sign up and sub to that site, probably never will either.

[wispy marsh]

It's not about the site

[dusky jacinth]

I'm just not that interested enough.

[olive stump]

Understandable have a nice day

[wispy marsh]

Yeah, GN and other servers are salty about LTT

[olive stump]

Cope and seethe I guess

[wispy marsh]

I know what it's like to feel bad about something/someone and hold that feeling forever

[dusky jacinth]

The other thing was that me coming here to see what all the trashing for this place I was given on multiple occasions was about, this was... Kinda supposed to be temporary, but I'm sitting around to see when I'm "done enough" to drop being here.

I just wanted to see what LTT's server was like in relation to where I'm at.

[olive stump]

Thoughts so far?

[wispy marsh]

It's mostly some colorful characters and Linus making a mistake here and there

[wispy marsh]

He's met Bionic

I'm not always toxic like this, but as I age, I can't hold my bag of demons as well as I did before

[dusky jacinth]

Moderation is way tougher than where I am, which honestly I appreciate, especially because people actually respect the mod team more here or at least take them seriously.
However, the "extreme elitism", toxicity, and mega biases compared to where I came from is... Somewhat accurate to what's been described to me by others who've been here for a time.

[wispy marsh]

I'm sorry about that, I don't think Bionic deserves all of what I said

[olive stump]

Im just tired of technology gatekeeping. I’m. So. Over it.

[lilac bear]

bro gave into his intrusive thoughts

[graceful burrow]

same

[wispy marsh]

It's more fucked in r/pcmr and r/homelabs server (public/general channel mostly)

I digress. Go check them out yourself

[olive stump]

I don’t have my main in them for a reason

(This is my main, feel special folks 🥰)

[olive stump]

I drop alts in every so often to build up usage and throw hands

[dusky jacinth]

I'm actually going to say the server I mod for though... Is actually a bit healthier than here somewhat, if anything to do with how overwhelming certain people here are in comparison, despite how brain dead, bizzarre, to even bullying-centric love-languaged it is.

[wispy marsh]

I think the term is Hugboxing, or something like that

[lilac bear]

https://youtu.be/RRY1jrIDhvU
anyone else think this video did damage to gatekeeping PC shit

[olive stump]

Yeah public chat here is a bit trash for that sorta thing, some of us throwing hands about it tho.
It’s pretty gross regardless

[dusky jacinth]

Regardless, that's my thoughts so far from both a regular user and staff/admin perspective of this place.

[wispy marsh]

Hugboxing appears in all industries. Cosmetics, mechanics, tech, parenthood, culinary, arts etc

It eats away at who you are and makes you stop loving what you do

[olive stump]

I prefer disinterested altruism, but that’s just me

[dusky jacinth]

Honestly, if there's anywhere I'd rather be it's... Not in tech servers that aren't private now.

[wispy marsh]

I'm not supposed to cry at 9:30 in the morning

[dusky jacinth]

At least that's how LTT and where I moderate makes me feel like. Lol.

[wispy marsh]

See yall

[olive stump]

Adiós

[dusky jacinth]

Later.

[lilac bear]

it made a lot of people assume
iPhone < Android < Office Laptop < Gaming Laptop < Office Desktop < Gaming Desktop < DIY Desktop < scrounged Desktop

[echo canopy]

That wasn’t what it said at all

If anything it made the scavenged desktop look like the elite one

[lilac bear]

fuck I messed up the arrows

[lilac bear]

while shitting on essentially anything else

[echo canopy]

He didn’t really rank I devices either, iirc he gave no score for them

[echo canopy]

He argued cases for laptops and how sometimes a desktop isn’t practical. Nor did he shit on them nearly as hard as he could

He literally said he was editing on a referb laptop just to prove they’re competent

He took a nuanced approach to criticizing them as well. EX the HQ or “low power” skus of CPUs/gpus they use

[lilac bear]

but the entire MacBook section was just "Apple bad for <list of predatory actions>" then failed the student

which isn't terrible to point out Apple does bad things
but the end result was that you should feel bad about getting Apple products

[echo canopy]

You literally didn’t watch the fucking video or read what I said he gave it NO GRADE

[lilac bear]

yeah no grade
isn't that just a fail

[echo canopy]

No

[dusky jacinth]

Actually, it's... Hard to fit Macs anywhere these days.

It's neither a success or fail.

They're literally their own breed, just as Apple intended for them to be.

[shut lichen]

still?

[dusky jacinth]

They can be both bad and good, but it's really complicated and just down the user themselves.
It's not like with phones whenever it comes to figuring out the best one to use, which is somewhat easier.
And... Well, that's what makes it complicated because Apple never quite switched up how they played in the space for years. They pretty much still live in 70s through 90s in terms of hardware and software design with the current point of development having now become pretty much maximalism.

[echo canopy]

He even complemented MAC os and it’s security

[vapid smelt]

allot of gn people disliked ltt even before the video

[dusky jacinth]

Yeah, the security is one thing that Windows won't get and even now, Ubuntu and to the same extent Debian can't hold the same claim for.

[lilac bear]

tell me you never saw a single "LTT only does things for views nowadays and not the tech itself" posts

[lilac bear]

phones easier since it mainly comes to budget
Samsung S23 and iPhone dominate a lot, so it's mainly between those as a choice
unless you throw in Motorola, Sony, and ASUS

but can see that, Apple kinda shoving their hardware into a niche case that doesn't apply to everything, while marketing it as "everything you need" in a sense

[full fossil]

Me who wanted to research about pervasive computing only to see Appul putting literal desktop chips on a tablet:

[dusky jacinth]

Mac OS had the security down once they merged Mach and Darwin kernels, then changed up some things to build off of. From there, now it's pretty well enclosed and is hard to exploit itself.
Just to do anything to their systems, you have to hack the services or just use a Mac OS device as a means to spread stuff to other devices that aren't the same OS at all.

[full fossil]

Anyway I enjoyed using my iPad Pro.

[echo canopy]

There isn’t a difference between them

Both are just computers

[vapid smelt]

[shut lichen]

laptop chin in a tablet*

[full fossil]

DOWNSCALE EVERYTHING

[full fossil]

It is very great. Great for viewing, for uni, and for notes.

[echo canopy]

The M1 already has stupid low power draw and they can just lower clocks.

[dusky jacinth]

Like, only the first versions of iOS (even before it's rename) were known to have any real security issues compared to Mac OS and that just says a lot to me about what they're doing that Microsoft and Canonical can't do.

[vapid smelt]

We all know android tablets are better then ipads

[echo canopy]

Funny joke man

[full fossil]

Yeah, it’s so great to the point none of them are literally in stock!

[hot tartan]

I love my iPad Air for college, super helpful

[sudden bear]

we have an iPad for viewing our security cameras and video doorbel, it's great mounted on the wall where the old doorbel intercom used to be

[full fossil]

If only they have the air in 12.9

Im forced to buy the pro for the 12.9 screen.

[hot tartan]

Nah I don’t need an iPad w giant screen, so air is perfect

[vapid smelt]

ipads are so bad the only people that use them are food trucks

[echo canopy]

Just like smaller things lol. 13 mini for life

[full fossil]

Might be an idea to turn it into a smart home enclosure

[velvet marsh]

miniled tho

[low rain]

I don’t trust my brother driving anymore 💀, this morning otw to school there was so much rain and like my brother saw a sports car like swerving around traffic and then he started swerving around traffic at like 80mph in the rain while the car was like ab to lose control 😭😭😭

[sudden bear]

considered a more permenant mount, but it's nice to take it off the wall sometimes and use it for the cameras or other stuff away fromt he wall

[hot tartan]

Why forced to get 12.9?

[lilac bear]

hey I was supposed to be the one making bait takes

[full fossil]

Maybe have it connected via an USB-c or use the rear interface?

[full fossil]

HUGE ASS SCREEN

[hot tartan]

Just get a foldable laptop or something?

[full fossil]

No pen

And I already have a MacBook

[dusky jacinth]

Food trucks just use the smart kiosks that run Android or that one BSD fork that runs on mostly embedded devices. Lol.

[full fossil]

That has built in printer

[echo canopy]

Quite a few have Wacom pen support now

[sudden bear]

I DO plan on either getting power there, OR even PoE there to the wall, because you can get USB-C PoE adaptors that will give data AND charge the iPad 😄

[hot tartan]

You can get some w pen, but understandable, have a nice day

[dusky jacinth]

Yes.

[full fossil]

And student discount

And free pencil.

[hot tartan]

That is so true, free pencil for the win

[echo canopy]

I prefer my onyx boox note air for notes

[vapid smelt]

apple pencil is over priced

[full fossil]

I literally got it for free

[lilac bear]

when people think Apple expensive
WACOM is way more expensive

[hot tartan]

Always buy apple w student discount

[echo canopy]

Especially when pens with the same features from Wacom that don’t have batteries exist

[full fossil]

Always

[echo canopy]

I assume it has something to do with power draw tho

[full fossil]

I got my whole thing for like $1075

[echo canopy]

Wacom is more expensive for more features and a bigger fucking tablet

[full fossil]

I was thinking of using the iPad for the I/O for pervasive computings, mainly to take advantage of its camera, performance, and large screen

Oops wrong mention

Could be a really great smart home companion that does not need to send its data to the cloud

[echo canopy]

Home kit is based because of that

[dusky jacinth]

Which is why Huion and XP-Pen exists. Lol.

[full fossil]

Maybe an extension to home kit, a lot more invasive due to the cameras but it will NEVER EVER connect to the internet.

Still, need to ask my prof for ideas

[hot tartan]

Wait how did HomeKit come up?

[vapid smelt]

OR

[full fossil]

Which is why I like apple. They do their best to keep the compute ‘on-device’

[echo canopy]

I’ve written more on my tablet then half of thoes would last and digital notes are so much more convenient as well as drawing

[vapid smelt]

paper > tablet ezpz

[echo canopy]

You just can’t admit you’re wrong

And when I’m done taking notes I can sit back and read on eink

[vapid smelt]

how can i be wrong when im trolling

[dusky jacinth]

Coopa's technically half-right, half-wrong. Lol.

Traditional and digital are both great art mediums.

And I'm saying that as someone who's used both.

[hot tartan]

Yeah paper is still nice to do work on, just what I’ve grown up with, but digital also has its benefits

[sudden bear]

Because your trolling isn't even funny...

[vapid smelt]

Big brother cant spy on your paper

[echo canopy]

Big brother can’t spy on my tablet when I broke the Wi-Fi antenna

[hot tartan]

What about the pigeon drones on my college campus hmmm???

[sudden bear]

no but my step brother can

[vapid smelt]

[vapid smelt]

trolls aren't funny

[echo canopy]

Then why do it

[vapid smelt]

board

[harsh quartz]

depends

[hot tartan]

Hey!

[fierce moth]

Good afternoon people

[vapid smelt]

why are you talking to a ghost

[hot tartan]

Good question

I need to go to bed

[lilac bear]

is that a bed to begin with

[hot tartan]

Idk

I’ll find out

Hope it is

It’s not

[lilac bear]

darn

best luck next time

[old yacht]

Sup Gamer

[pure olive]

hi elijah

[median idol]

I'm doing good fellow gamer

[old yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-snake-eyes-orange-justice-dancing-dance-gif-22082452

[fallow matrix]

Hi elijah

[pure olive]

how ya doin

[fallow matrix]

Its me ralsei

[latent plank]

https://tenor.com/view/zoomer-tide-pods-eating-snack-glasses-gif-16629132

[karmic flame]

Bad

[fallow matrix]

Hi nick

[old yacht]

Dang you found the footage of me eating those eh?

[fallow matrix]

Hi ltt ppl

[old yacht]

Alive for the most part

[pure olive]

well thats nice

[fallow matrix]

How do i connect a geforce 210 on a potato?

[latent plank]

https://tenor.com/view/we-did-it-gif-6236810

[old yacht]

Ram it in, throw in oven, call it a day

[fallow matrix]

Thx :3

[old yacht]

Another day another Nickel baby lets gooooooo

[pure olive]

i had pizza for lunch and dinner today lessgo

[old yacht]

YO PIZZA GANG RISE UP

[pure olive]

https://tenor.com/view/hellmo-pizza-creed-hellmo-pizza-hellmo-creed-gif-26018398

[median idol]

https://tenor.com/view/little-caesars-caesar-little-pizza-pizza-pizza-gif-20929511

[vapid smelt]

sup beatles hater

[old yacht]

I said what I said, no take backs

[karmic flame]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-penguin-funny-gif-14244481

[keen cedar]

Titanfall 2, pro gaming moment

I just finished the story mode on max hardness like an hour ago

[old yacht]

game is S tier and now that the servers are fixed Im playing again

[pure olive]

my feet still hurt

[pure olive]

hell yeah i might play tonight

idk tho, tired

[keen cedar]

Apex is so much worse 😭

Titanfall3 needs to come out

[pure olive]

it's being hinted at

[old yacht]

I feel like the only reason they would update the servers now, is if something is on the way

[keen cedar]

Yippie

[pure olive]

titanfall 3 would be massive

[keen cedar]

Now time to wait for that to go $15 or under

[pure olive]

i recently picked up titanfall for $3

[keen cedar]

That’s when I bought my copy

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-literally-me-reddit-nerd-nerd-emoji-gif-27374241

[pure olive]

i did it on hard, I should do max difficulty

maybe this weekend

[keen cedar]

Tbh most aaa games I don’t buy because I don’t feel like spending a day of my life working my ass off for some game that just heats my room and the storyline isn’t very good

I would play hl2 again, it was fun

[earnest cedar]

i just found the weirdest built in windows keyboard shortcut
ctrl+win+alt+shift+l opens linkedin

[pure olive]

if you do just ctrl shift alt win then it opens microsoft 365

[solar night]

If you have a Microsoft Branded keyboard with the Office button, it's just the office button + the letter

[pseudo girder]

whats the easiest way to format an hdd with bad sectors? crystaldiskinfo says caution, and format is grey in computer management and format via context menu fails.

[solar night]

They mapped the office button to Ctrl+Shift+Alt+Windows

[solar night]

Linux DD

[graceful burrow]

Might end up killing the drive with a format

[polar fern]

format might bork it

[pseudo girder]

just swapped my data over to a new m.2 black drive from my 10 year old black drive, had alarming audio stutter in vr, exactly as if i was using tpm on legacy compatibility mode for older windows install.... working now, guess some ports just dont like oculus link, like the newest usb 3 red ports vs the blue ones, which seem to work fine. i had 8 years of total uptime and over 100tbs of data go through that old drive lol.

[solar night]

It's definitely already borked with bad sectors - only reason to format it is for disposal

[polar fern]

also a failing drive is gonna keep failing & eventually not work so best .. yeah e-cycle it

[pseudo girder]

i was just gonna use it to store non-essential downloads while it still works, like game stuff.

[polar fern]

not worth it

[pseudo girder]

only need to use those files in the moment i download them

[graceful burrow]

Nah that drive is gone

Caution = replace and don't use

[summer folio]

Nooo, I missed epicc TechLinked blunder/edit fail. Everyone posting 08:00+ time stamps, & the video is only 7:55 long.

[polar fern]

oops

[pseudo girder]

oh it will be, but ill just redownload a game if it fails mid-download XD

[polar fern]

ECC gang?

[pseudo girder]

less junk i gotta cycle through my new m.2

[polar fern]

you really should just unmount the drive, pull it out, and take it to an e-recycling center

[pseudo girder]

i mean as i said, not for keeping anything on lol. just a trashpile for junk i dont plan to keep

[graceful burrow]

You already can't even format it it's gone dude

[polar fern]

if you download stuff to it, could be corrupted

[pseudo girder]

in that case redownload

corrupt installer? well w/e

dont need to clog my new drive with stuff i might forget to delete

[polar fern]

k well youve been warned 🙂

[pseudo girder]

well ive had drives fail mid-install, its no biggie.

i have TOO MUCH trash i forgot to delete i gotta clean off my freshly copied m.2 XD

[polar fern]

would be funny if youre downloading a large size installer and the header file goes dark

forever installing

[pseudo girder]

i usually download HUGE games when im sleeping, typically those are through steam, so it would take care of the installer files itself

aka, could use my ssd just fine

20 gigs takes like 10 mins

also i need a new windows install some day, but, issue is i have too much configuration to dare.

[polar fern]

if the header file goes bad the drive will become totally unuseable, and if its mid-download that will be not good

[polar fern]

haha

[pseudo girder]

toss it in my pile of old failed drives

[polar fern]

pile of failed dives? wat

[pseudo girder]

fircuda seemed like a great thing for my laptop, issue with those is they fail very fast, and just suddenly become undreadable for more than a second when the cache doesnt match the drive. unrecoverable even professionally.

[polar fern]

my sibling in crust, just get a new hdd that isnt $20 on ebay

[pseudo girder]

i live in the mountains, i just have boxes for failed hardware lol.

[vapid smelt]

@pseudo girder how big is your dying drive?

[pseudo girder]

2tb

its been through hell with 8 years of runtime lol

[polar fern]

so retire it

[pseudo girder]

those wd blacks last forever

[polar fern]

8 years?

[pseudo girder]

yep

hundreds of tbs

[polar fern]

my powermac G4's wd blue are still working perfectly from 2002

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/C3xbt6/team-mp33-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6002t0c101 could get a good old MP33 for $65

[pseudo girder]

i got a wd black sn770 2tb

walmart had a good deal at 90 bucks

i can only use 1 m.2 and a gpu, as im using a b550

has 2 slots, but not enough lanes for that and a 3070 ti, even tho its a 5800x

[polar fern]

this thing? https://www.serversupply.com/HARD DRIVES/SATA-II/2TB-7200RPM/WESTERN DIGITAL/WD2003FYYS_211581.htm

[pseudo girder]

itd be another hdd if anything for storage

yea that lol

[polar fern]

look, you can get it for $50 now!

[pliant karma]

should run I was able to do 2 without a problem with my 3070 then I it varies a lot

I've used up all my pcie lanes too now lol

[pseudo girder]

says i only have so many lanes, so best not to overdrive it potentially.

dont wanna cook my chipset

[vapid smelt]

i just use a single gen 4 2tb drive on my x570 mbo

[pliant karma]

lol my b550 is on crack right now. x4 nvmes, 3 sata ssds, and one hdd and gpu.

[pseudo girder]

compared to my ancient drive, loading times are at the drop of a hat vs waiting 15 mins for nms in vr XD

[pliant karma]

the msi b550 meg unify is weird but ah it works

[spice pine]

i wonder what the cheapest way to get 25tb of ssd storage would be

[fierce moth]

i have 3 sata drives and thats it

[vapid smelt]

Easy fix

[polar fern]

the asrock taichi board i have has 8 sata connectors and the psu has 8 spots for sata, no need for pcie

[pseudo girder]

i got the strix b550-f gaming

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7Qvqqs/samsung-870-qvo-8-tb-25-solid-state-drive-mz-77q8t0bam

[pseudo girder]

i was gonna get a steel legend x570, but the good deal dissapeared.

[polar fern]

gaming boards succ at non-gaming stuff typically

[pliant karma]

oh that board yea you can run 2 nvmes without a problem and gpu. That was my first b550 board lol

it just serves life now in my remote pc

[pseudo girder]

my primary drive is an original samsung 840 pro from when ssds were first becoming a thing lol

[spice pine]

when it gets to the $400 mark for all 25tb, i’ll jump around then

[polar fern]

the taichi also has the 2 nvme. i has the 2 tb boot drive but i think the secondary ssd is gonna be 8 tb or some such

then pop in some 2.25 inch sata ssd's later

[half summit]

I'm excited to announce that

[polar fern]

bread?

[half summit]

I'm finally on the first phase of acquiring Tech to become a tech person

[polar fern]

ooo

[half summit]

I applied for Walmart 🔥

[polar fern]

gotta have monies for the stuffs

[pseudo girder]

my plan is to fresh install windows when one day it eventually fails, although my performance metrics seem at or above what id expect from my system comparatively in games. so havent seen any benefit to fresh installing, aside from not having to enable legacy compatibility mode and having a crisp boot logo and uefi.

[graceful burrow]

@half summit as

[half summit]

Yes as

[vapid smelt]

what tech will you steal from walmart?

[polar fern]

"yes"

[half summit]

I will not steal tech from Walmart

[spice pine]

lame

[half summit]

Mainly because I'm applying for the neighborhood market

[pseudo girder]

applied to walmart, famous last words XD

[half summit]

Not the big Walmart

[polar fern]

loss prevention officer Veronica reporting for dewtee

[graceful burrow]

... As what
You applied to Walmart
For what position
You can't be serious dude

Jesus

I don't even care anymore ngl

[polar fern]

"i am every employee"?

[half summit]

I mean tbf I thought you we're talking about my about me pronouns

But basically online order person

[pseudo girder]

their aircraft grade concrete floors will turn your ankles into spaghetti after 2 hours

[polar fern]

your pronouns will be employee/employed

[vapid smelt]

last time i tried to stop a thief i got ran over by a trailer and broke my femur and dislocated my knee 0/10 do not recommend

[polar fern]

oh you dont "stop" them

[half summit]

Here it is

[polar fern]

you just turn the automatic doors off and wait fro the cops m8

[half summit]

Basically

Whenever a loser orders online I deliver it to the parking lot

[vapid smelt]

didnt have that so i hung to the side of the suv like a true mad man

[polar fern]

hahah

[half summit]

But if the interview

[pseudo girder]

people of walmart, the theif will just end up endlessly bouncing off the automatic door like a gta npc

[half summit]

Doesn't work, I will go for the big walmart

[vapid smelt]

its hard to hang onto a fast moving suv when it hits a speed bump

[half summit]

And I will offer you guys to do the biggest tech heist of..m worthless computers, HP and iBuyPower Gaming PCs

And a couple of gaming laptops

[vapid smelt]

steal some oled tvs

[graceful burrow]

Those are made to be pushed open in the event of an emergency, they can't hard lock them like that unless nobody is in the store

Source: worked for Walmart for three years

[half summit]

Can't I'm a linus tech tops viewer I'm weak

[polar fern]

@half summit i only do delivery and curbside since like october of 2020. people kept getting too close to me in stores so i was like "nope". and i mean like reaching across in front of me when i'm already reaching for something & one lady took her mask off & coughed -at- me. e-e

[pseudo girder]

you about ready to jump off the overpass onto their roof! XD

[half summit]

But anyways sorry for the mistakes I'm the online order guy

[graceful burrow]

Reread my last message about it

[polar fern]

sure you can push them open, but will you do that if youre trying to gank some merch?

"its the one persone trying frantically to escape!"

[half summit]

The hard lock?

[graceful burrow]

No, that I don't care anymore

[vapid smelt]

before i left my store i was able to talk them into getting the time locked doors for the back emergency exit now when you try to open it a alarm goes off and after 10? or 15 seconds before it opens

[half summit]

Oh