public-chat

[lethal jay]

Honestly I'd be tempted to just upgrade to something new, any recomendations? Really just need it to handle a guitar and a xlr input, and just 1 1/4" jack out and Rca out for speakers

[olive frigate]

so we still breading?

[lethal jay]

We're breathing, thats for sure

[harsh quartz]

I’m not breathing

[bitter girder]

Oh yeah to continue on my Tangent about Mobile Browsers,

I don't care about the whole chrome thing tracking me and shit if other browsers on my phone aren't so crappy in UI

[olive frigate]

yeah dont assume things that people are doing!

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-vs-bread-cat-bread-annoyed-gif-14702022

[solar stratus]

It’s even on LTT store

[blazing sage]

Hi

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/toast-butter-breakfast-toaster-toasted-gif-14563768

[olive frigate]

bread

[gilded forge]

(I'm assuming you mean android here): Bromite which is a chromium fork without chrome's telemetry and extra experimental flags. and then ofc Firefox exists which I use on pretty much every device.

[solar stratus]

Actually he was on iPhone

[spice pine]

Firefox looks so much better than chrome on iOS though

[solar stratus]

You can tell 99% of the time because iPhones automatically capitalize the first letter while others don’t

[solar stratus]

wdym you got use “opera gx” which is what only the “true” gamers use

[spice pine]

im so glad i'm not a gamer lmfao

[harsh quartz]

Also some people just capitalize things, especially if I’m on a PC I’ll do it

[solar stratus]

Ui is honestly mid

[solar stratus]

Hence 99%

[harsh quartz]

I wouldn’t call it 99% 😦

[solar stratus]

L auto emoji

Hit back slash before it

[spice pine]

auto emoji?

[harsh quartz]

I like that emoji

[solar stratus]

Real?

Don’t lie

[harsh quartz]

Yes, I don’t like the :p one tho

[spice pine]

im fine with emoji tbh but bringing back text emoticons or ye olde forum emoticons would be awesome

[manic torrent]

any 2i2o interface will do it

[spice pine]

:3

[harsh quartz]

But 🙂 and 😦 are good

😠 is also good

[spice pine]

smileys, there we go. bring those back

[solar stratus]

:D superior

[harsh quartz]

I’m never that happy about anything tho

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-yeah-aight-smile-gif-15084532

[gilded forge]

😛

[harsh quartz]

Yeah that doesn’t have the same emotion as :p

[spice pine]

:p feels very blunt and mildly annoyed, 😛 feels “no thoughts head empty”

[harsh quartz]

:p is just like a /s, it’s very “this is a cheeky joke and you should take it that way”

[gilded forge]

its an emoticon 😭 please its just a funny littele silly goofy guy just leave him alone he didnt do anything to you

[full fossil]

hi

hwo r u ppls

[dreamy rose]

how about :d

[harsh quartz]

This is a man eating a sandwich but is missing his mouth a little bit

[dreamy rose]

i thought it made sense as Licking lips

[harsh quartz]

Or just a surprised person pointing

[harsh quartz]

Yeah it’s that

[dreamy rose]

or my favorite one

the falcon one is so goofy i love it

[full fossil]

I made more, I'm eating good tonight🙏🤤

[tepid jasper]

im not even religious but i will send you to jesus myself

[full fossil]

😩

hotdogs🤤poutine🤤

[harsh quartz]

The hotdogs are fine but Jesus Christ the mayonnaise

[full fossil]

😔

it doesn't tastw like anything idek why I use it

[lilac bear]

glizzies!!!

[pliant karma]

is it said microwaved hotdogs you mentioned this morning

or someone else said lol

[full fossil]

more of the same

[pliant karma]

[spice pine]

:3

[bitter girder]

I'll actually try it but so far a lot of the other browsers on Android are crappy on the UI Front

Yes I use android

And so far a lot of the other browsers have pretty unintuitive UI and also pretty much over complicates more than could.

That's the one thing I am aiming for. I can deal with the ads and the spying. Heck I really do want an ad blocker but so far the user interface can be a bit of.. confusing

And also all of them don't have one of my favorite features being the ability to group tabs into a single tab

[low rain]

https://youtu.be/6e-5Uo1dRic?si=spV-DUwwTr5n8d-c this seems interesting, I wonder how people are going to make their robots throw paper airplanes tho

[bitter girder]

I should just probably get a new phone too. Only 3 gb of storage left that's free

And it's a 128gb phone

[civic swallow]

LINUS BOUGHT A SOVIET MOUSE

🖱️

[bitter girder]

Well it is just like chrome however I uninstalled it because it sucks that I can't do automatic updates without downloading more stuff

And I don't wanna do that.

But then again I should probably slow down my TikTok downloading of videos

[full fossil]

hiii

[full fossil]

whod downaloads tikk tokk videos

[bitter girder]

Me, I do

I like to watch them when my mobile data gets crappy or send them to friends who refuse to open tiktok

[full fossil]

только в России 🗿💯🗣️

[lilac bear]

get the Xperia 5 V

microsd card slot

[dreamy rose]

there are really no perfect choices for phones anymore really.

good ones don't have Headphone jacks and one with Headphone jacks are okay at least. decent at best

[lethal jay]

You mean lucifer right?

[lilac bear]

Zenfone 10 for that

snapdragon 8 gen 2 and up to 16GB of RAM for top model

but Xperia series ain't bad, just overpriced

[empty pollen]

All of you need to get back to work.

[silent elbow]

I guess this is it

My PC mobos gone I think

I troed replacing the ram but nothing seems to work

[full fossil]

bruhhh

[spice pine]

mlem goodnight :3

[slim creek]

is there anyone here who buys a top of the line pc part when it comes out?

[full fossil]

no money

hehe

[hollow mango]

I only buy mid-range stuff. I could technically afford the top of the line PC part, but it's not in my budget and I prioritize so many different things before a high end PC part

[mild current]

I can't make sense of what you are suggesting

[subtle tusk]

So, I like this dude.. and I was at his house a few hours ago and right before I left I told him "I love you, bye" because if it it goes wrong, I could just say I love all my friends but then he said "Love you too, bye, cya tomorrow" and I'm sorta confused... help.

[mild current]

What about it? The RAM isn't going to be on the APU

[dreamy rose]

if he likes you he just told you.

[dreamy rose]

yes it is, the VRAM is likely gonna be on the APU. do you see where the 256-bit LPDDR5X block is?

[mild current]

That's not how it works mate

[subtle tusk]

But idk if he meant as friends, or like... he loves me.

[mild current]

I mean, let's just say the DDR5 was located on the chiplet, that isn't ideal either

[full fossil]

lets warrr

[dreamy rose]

its VRAM. you cant upgrade VRAM. What dont you understand about that?

[narrow mantle]

is this a steal for 8 usd?

[dreamy rose]

the System RAM is the extrenal Stick

[narrow mantle]

logitech 213

for 8 usd

[green snow]

Anyone here played Mafia trilogy? I'm thinking about buying it today, is it worth it?

[dreamy rose]

and there's no reason having it on die wouldn't work either. Apple puts their RAM on die

[mild current]

VRAM isn't located in a GPU, if they installed the VRAM on the chiplet all it means is that it can't be changed

[dreamy rose]

yeah and it doesnt matter anything. you CANT Change the VRAM Regardless if its on die or not.

What is your point? it just makes Integrated Graphics easier if it has its own on die dedicated VRAM.

[mild current]

No it doesn't, what makes you say that?

[dreamy rose]

First of all, the speed of your system RAM can harm your performance, so if its already got some predetermined, its consistently good
Second, This is an iGPU full of RDNA 3.5 Cores. are you really gonna want to leave such a bottleneck?

[mild current]

Why not just go for a SoC instead?

[dreamy rose]

this is an APU, For laptops, not Phones.

[full fossil]

I mean, ryzen chips are SoCs... Well the mobile ones are much more clearly SoCs than desktop but yeah

[dreamy rose]

they are APUs. SoCs are low power. APUs are the opposite.

[mild current]

It sounds like you are interested in a SoC in your laptop, that's not a bad thing, it's just good to understand what you want

[full fossil]

That's not even remotely true, power/TDP doesn't change the fact it is a SoC or not

[dreamy rose]

its VRAM, not System RAM.

[mild current]

So?

It's a laptop, you aren't upgrading it anyway

[dreamy rose]

THIS is an APU WITH a monster GPU attached. its got to have at least 12GB of its own VRAM with 40CUs.

its meant to make Gaming laptops more efficient and last longer playing games.

i dont understand whats so hard to wrap your brain around the idera of it having VRAM on die

[mild current]

It's 2x 8 core CPU's connected to a GPU with 40 CU's, that isn't a big deal

[full fossil]

Because you would almost never get on die Vram

You can get on package Vram, but the processes used for RAM and compute are different and not easily interchangeable

[dreamy rose]

its ONE Chip. with BOTH 2x8c CCDs and a 40CU Graphics die WITH its own Vram on it

i dont understand how you could brush that off as "Not a big deal" at all

[full fossil]

Even Apple, who make the most advanced chips on the market, don't have on die RAM, they have on package ram because it just can't really be done with any ease

[dreamy rose]

pretty much the same thing,

[full fossil]

It really isn't in the slightest

[dreamy rose]

they have the same effect. thats all that matters.

you arent gonna be using System RAM for storing graphics stuff so you wont have that issue.

[full fossil]

But it isn't all that matters, the more I talk to you the more I realise you have literally no idea what you are talking about

[full fossil]

Why not, consoles do, Apple chips do, and they do very well

[mild current]

That is two chips, it's most likely describing the interface used for the VRAM, which is 256bit LPDDR5X, but if it was on the same chip it just doesn't make all that much sense

[dreamy rose]

Consoles use GDDR. not LPDDR or DDR.

[full fossil]

Still unified system ram

[dreamy rose]

its not the same as regular DDR5.

[full fossil]

Once again, don't know what you are talking about

Obviously it's not the same, DDR5 is actually superior btw

Given the same memory bus width that is

[dreamy rose]

they are using GDDR6.

GDDR6 is far faster than DDR5

[full fossil]

It's not, it's latency is MUCH slower and for the same BUS WIDTH DDR5 is faster

The only reason GDDR6 is "faster" is because they have wider busses, which you can do with DDR btw

[mild current]

You all worry about speed way too much, it doesn't make that much of a difference

[full fossil]

I don't, I'm running 2666Mhz ram and don't give a shit

I just don't like this guy and like to prove where he is wrong

[mild current]

I'm running 2133Mhz 😅

[dreamy rose]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-780m-rdna3-igpu-sees-further-4-improvement-in-a-new-leak

yeah its old but its proof

[full fossil]

A leak is not proof, it's a lead, and MLID has been wrong more than he's been right

[mild current]

AMD make all sorts of exotic CPU's, it's not unusual for them

[sterile nest]

are koorui monitors good?

[full fossil]

Anyway it's 6am, I'm bored of this guy now, have a good night all

[dreamy rose]

well have YOU got any proof that faster RAM does not improve performance of iGPUs?

[full fossil]

I have two and both are fine

[sterile nest]

are they VA

[full fossil]

Depends on the model like all other monitors

[full fossil]

I don't need to prove something I haven't said, night

[mild current]

Nobody needs to prove anything

[sterile nest]

im thinkong about selling an asus tuf vg259 1080p 144hz monitor for a cheaper koorui 1440p 144hz va panel

is it worth it and would that be a good decision?

[dreamy rose]

So everything you've said should be taken with a grain of salt then?

[mild current]

@dreamy rose this isn't a fact finding competition, AMD do lots of unusual things, it's not a big deal because they don't always make sense

I mean I give them credit for fuck assing around but that's all it is

[dreamy rose]

so then why do you act like it is? I'm just stating what's there then you say
"Akshully that doesn't work" when it already has been proven it works before.

[mild current]

I'm trying to understand what you are getting at, you can put RAM in a CPU and it has been done plenty of times, it's just not as good as you might think

[full fossil]

Intel did that back in the broadwell era IIRC

[dreamy rose]

I've given you the reasons WHY having its own integrated VRAM is a good idea and you just keep going "Nah, thats not logical" or whatever

[mild current]

What reasons are they my friend

ok mate, stop typing, you will have a fit

somebody call a paramedic

[graceful burrow]

you're the one who stirred him you get to deal with the fallout of it lol

[dreamy rose]

do i really have to repeat them?
1: System RAM doesn't need to be shared so you get to use all your RAM for anything other than loading graphics data
2: its own set VRAM ensures the iGPU can perform at a reasonable performance consistently on multiple models and versions of machines, (Shit/slow RAM wont hurt Graphics performance etc.)
3:its a part of the plan of getting Cheaper, Longer lasting gaming laptops that will become a hit with people who care about gaming on the go. not to mention other usecases this would have in other devices like a standalone PCVR Headset or something as much. AMD is crazy enough to go places where others wont and Pioneer what others wont or were to slow to release, (look at how they took x86 to 64 bit, got to Dual core first, Clocked to 1GHz first and they released a GPU with HBM)

they put SSDs on a GPU for crying out loud

[mild current]

I am actually worried about this sort of stuff, I see it too often

[mild current]

OK, let's just leave it right there, I don't care anymore, and neither should you

[dreamy rose]

making such a big deal out of Typing a response.

[empty pollen]

Oh, an internet fight, great.

[mild current]

Go see a shrink, this isn't an emotional battlefield

[dreamy rose]

i'm not making it one

[subtle tusk]

How do ask dood owt

[dreamy rose]

guys will be Ecstatic to get a response saying you should go out.

[neon mesa]

Using system ram gives flexibility on VRAM amounts.
It also reduces cost
Simplifies manufacturing
Dedicated VRAM eats die estate.

And most modern DDR4 RAM is so cheap you'll most likely have no problem getting a decent speed one

[dreamy rose]

Sure, but on these chips, Size doesnt matter since its not meant to fit on a normal Socket.

[dreamy rose]

dude, this is Zen 5. you arent buying DDR4

[neon mesa]

Then system memory speed is even less of a problem

[dreamy rose]

@neon mesa yeah still would.

[neon mesa]

4%

Literally within margin of error

[dreamy rose]

a whole 4%, i'd say that's pretty big, considering its an iGPU.

[neon mesa]

It being igpu makes it even less impressive

[dreamy rose]

thats technically meant to be "The Low"

[neon mesa]

Horray... 60fps becomes... 62

[subtle tusk]

How do ask dood owt

[dreamy rose]

its a 1650 Mobile basically

[full fossil]

no

[graceful burrow]

tech server btw

[full fossil]

I really can't wait to see what intel does with their GPUs tbh just the sheet money they can throw at it

[subtle tusk]

Idfc
I just need to know... How do ask dood owt

[graceful burrow]

no

[full fossil]

no

[shut lichen]

you're asking a bunch of nerds how to ask someone out?

[subtle tusk]

Yeppers

[shut lichen]

you're very lost then

[full fossil]

This generation from AMD has been disappointing the whole stack, and Nvidia have barely made improvements on the low end and raised prices on the high end. GPUs that is. Never thought I would be routing for intel lmfao

[neon mesa]

It almost feels like they both collude, nvidia and amd

Nvidia release shitty mediocre product

[full fossil]

Ikrrrr

[neon mesa]

And AMD release SLIGHTLY less mediocre product

[full fossil]

I really want them to do a good VEGA moment, wait 16 months to release, make a massive die or MCM and just go balls to the walls

[neon mesa]

Vega wasn't good

[full fossil]

VEGA would have been pretty good if it released when it was meant it

[neon mesa]

RDNA 2 is one of the best AMD generation

[shut lichen]

still hoping EVGA goes back on their word and starts making arc gpus at some point

[neon mesa]

6950xt even beating nvidia

We want another RDNA 2 moment

[shut lichen]

I wouldn't even care if they're all sold at a $100 markup or something, I'd buy.

[neon mesa]

Vega was AMD hoping to make a wunderwaffe with exotic technology only to end up being beaten by the 1080ti

[full fossil]

Vega 64 should have come out before gtx 1080 so it would have actually been good...ish. but instead it was almost two whole years late

[dreamy rose]

they'd be better off doing Radeon

[shut lichen]

no thanks.

[dreamy rose]

tho no reason they have to be exclusive

[neon mesa]

EVGA entering Radeon is asking for problem

It'll piss off some radeon exclusive AIBs

[dreamy rose]

Problem for Nvidia sure

[neon mesa]

And also over saturate an already smaller market that is radeon

Not really

[full fossil]

The problem with that is, they want to be a tier one producer, and that would mean displacing sapphire and I don't think AMD wants to burn that bridge

[neon mesa]

Nvidia making 100x the margin on enterprise than gamers

So they really give jackshit rn

[full fossil]

Maybe we should all just rent GPUs!

[serene flare]

miners would smoke the cards then return them

[dreamy rose]

Rent Windows instead

[jaunty compass]

Finally got around to finishing my dual stage triggers deck mod

[shut lichen]

if evga started doing radeon gpus, there'd be no reason to buy any of the other aib's cards
I guess the same goes for arc, but like, what well known aibs are even doing arc at the moment?

[dreamy rose]

Acer

[jaunty compass]

Steam input has software support for it so I'm using that to implement the functionality because I hate soldering

[echo canopy]

RDNA (the original) was the best of recent history. As revolutionary for AMD gpus as was GCN compared to terascale and made nvidia have to launch a mid gen refresh of everything and bring back the KO sku

[neon mesa]

I'm talking for the consumer

[full fossil]

This

[jaunty compass]

I have the improved rev 2 printing rn

[neon mesa]

RDNA 1 wasn't good as a product due to it being riddled with driver issues

[echo canopy]

AMD literally forced nvidia to lower their prices with RDNA1

[shut lichen]

acer ain't really a well known aib
as a brand, they're well known, but this is like their first gpus not including anything they may have produced for their prebuilts

[echo canopy]

That’s software that was fixed later and didn’t exist on Linux

[neon mesa]

It's only usable by the time RDNA 2 is a thing

[full fossil]

Dell's 40 series cards have been pretty much the best of the prebuild GPUs

[neon mesa]

And very little people want to switch to linux over a GPU

Technology serve you, not you serve them

[shut lichen]

asrock is the only well known aib doing arc gpus from what I can tell

[neon mesa]

RDNA 2 is the true champ for modern amd gpu

Their 6950xt even beating 3090ti

AMD hasn't had a card faster than nvidia since 2009 and RDNA 2 changed that

[echo canopy]

RDNA2 was just RDNA refined.

[neon mesa]

Doesn't matter, what's under.
I'm talking value

RDNA 2 finally something makes sense to buy

Not some technology demonstrator

[echo canopy]

Future generations will always have better value. RDNA1 however was revolutionary

[neon mesa]

Like Vega and Radeon VII

[full fossil]

Don't Lenovo want to make GPUs under their legion brand?

[echo canopy]

I hope they don’t cause they will motherboard lock them /j

[full fossil]

Both of those were not even close to a technology demonstration, both build on GCN, a very old architecture by that point

[neon mesa]

Vega and RVII uses HBM2

which is my point

[echo canopy]

Which helped in 5 workloads

[full fossil]

HBM2 was the only option for GCN with that many CUs at the time

[echo canopy]

What?

[full fossil]

GCN was always memory starved, that's one of the things they fixed in RDNA

[lilac bear]

1080Ti is peak
even nVIDIA hasn't beaten it themselves

[full fossil]

It was just not designed to scale that large, yes theoretically it could do it, but it was never supposed to

[echo canopy]

GCN had a fuck ton of CUs because it needed them to get any sensible performance as every thread took 4 clock cycles to complete

[graceful burrow]

[echo canopy]

HBM2 wasn’t a requirement

It just gave them a edge in 5 workloads and embarrassed the titan

[full fossil]

I promise you it was, for both power and bandwidth reasons

[dreamy rose]

after 20 series was a downfall.

[shut lichen]

💪

[full fossil]

4070ti best product ever made (for my workload)

[dreamy rose]

Reasonable pricing died for the RTX name

[echo canopy]

Source?

[full fossil]

It was widely known at the time, and can be seen by the large gains for from OCing the memory

[lilac bear]

Jenson out here selling the shovels to the AI boom

[full fossil]

I had a Vega 64, well I had two, blew them both up lmfao

My overclocking was stupid, but I had money to burn then and it was fun

[pliant karma]

same or 4080 never really see myself pushing past 16gb vram but who knows lol. Blackmagic BRAW makes my pc suffer as it is already. RED manage to do proxy with it so it's not as bad

[dreamy rose]

it'd be fun if they gave up on consumer GPUs.

[full fossil]

Not really, AMD would just do what intel did during the FX years of AMD

[dreamy rose]

they have been chasing AI since 20 series.

[full fossil]

Competition is good for the consumer

[dreamy rose]

they'd have a hard time getting Nvidia fans to switch for at least a few generations.

[shut lichen]

if nvidia gave up, amd wouldn't have to make anything stupidly high performance until intel catches up with arc

[full fossil]

Exactly

[dreamy rose]

they would anyway.

[shut lichen]

they would literally have zero incentive to

[full fossil]

No they wouldn't lmfao

It would be stupid of them to do so tbh

[dreamy rose]

what reason would they have not to make a fastest GPU?

[echo canopy]

NVIDIA has no reason to stop improving their architecture they just don’t have a reason to make a cheap gpu

If they can get data centers to buy each generation they will

[full fossil]

Any publicly traded company has only one aim, to make as much profit as they can fit shareholders

[dreamy rose]

and they can while making the consumer happy too.

[full fossil]

That's not how it works my friend

[echo canopy]

They have no financial insensitive to make consumers happy. They used to because it was their target demographic

[full fossil]

Nvidia understand the play field, AI on GPUs is time limited, ASICs are already in development that will blow GPUs out the water, Nvidia need to gain as much ground as they can before those smaller companies make solid ASICs

[echo canopy]

Uh

Nvidia gpus already use asics for that

[neon mesa]

Bionic has a very naïve image of AMD

[echo canopy]

Just like their media engine

[neon mesa]

AMD is just another soulless company

[full fossil]

Look at what D-matrix is doing

[neon mesa]

Look what happened to HEDT when intel quit

[dusky jacinth]

4090, exception being price, which is astronomical compared to the 1080 Ti's.

[neon mesa]

Nooo they didn't continue being the good guy

[dreamy rose]

i know AMD is a Company, dont be stupid.

[neon mesa]

Instead they jacked threadripper price 3x and added a pro suffix

So nvidia quitting won't do us good

[dusky jacinth]

Uumm I believe someone already did that and then we never saw anything from them again, and they are a huge name too btw.

Google.

[echo canopy]

They did get some support

[neon mesa]

TPUs is yet to pick up pace though

But they maybe will sometimes next year

[gentle slate]

Whats an asic

[dusky jacinth]

Yeah, but they were one of the best implementations for a time till Nvidia came all in and swept up whatever market Google could've had.

[lilac bear]

probably less efficient though?

[neon mesa]

The XTX is really close to the 4090 according to more recent Tom's hardware benchmarks

No, the 4090 isn't like the 1080ti

[echo canopy]

Their theoretical performance seems to only be on par with what nvidia already have and are only solving the memory bandwidth issue

[neon mesa]

The 1080ti was 40% faster than 1080 and dwarfed anything vega has to over

[echo canopy]

If d-matrix don’t have a robust media engine on their cards it could hurt their usage as well for training

[empty pollen]

I still have my duke 1080ti, thing is a tank and just starting to show its age.

[dusky jacinth]

The 4090's performance can also be attributed to it's higher efficiency, since you can even undervolt or underclock it and it will still yield a relatively higher performance than anything under it at stock right now, save for the 7900XTX which is very close much like what Fionya noted.

It's efficiency is even higher than the afermentioned Radeon flagship, which is mostly due to mid to high end RDNA3 cards being chiplet based.

[full fossil]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/d-Matrix-presents-Corsair-C8-card-9x-faster-than-Nvidia-s-H100-GPU-in-generative-AI-workloads.747930.0.html

Sorry for the delay was ordering maccies breakfast

[dusky jacinth]

The modules themselves are very efficient, with their GCDs having an efficiency that can match the 4090's die. However, altogether on the same substrate, their total package power is higher since you have to count the losses from being separate modules and the extra power required to reach them and drive their interconnects.

[echo canopy]

That “9600” tflops is in reference to their int 8 performance which current nvidia gpus are already close to while being general compute as well

[full fossil]

This is a first gen product...

[echo canopy]

Okay so?

[dreamy rose]

RDNA 3 are First gen chiplet GPUs. a lot is needing work for it to be near perfect which is likely why RDNA 5 is going to be pulling out all the stops.

[echo canopy]

Nvidia could release a “tensorcore” only gpu “card” and wreck shit

[full fossil]

IF... and it's a big IF, they get to 3rd or even 5th gen, then we will see. Nvidia are on their 4th gen(with H100) of tensor and AI hardware no?

[dreamy rose]

like PhysX cards?

[echo canopy]

You say that like nvidia won’t keep pace

[dusky jacinth]

Basically, RDNA3's high-end gpu's drawback with total board power is just the cost of using multiple chips instead of one die and that is what's so inefficient about it so far.
So the 40 Series kinda win here for now.

[echo canopy]

PhysX is ran in software

[dreamy rose]

there were PhysX cards

[echo canopy]

There “were”

[full fossil]

If they keep making GPUs and not switching they won't be able to "keep pace" (I love nvidia cards, just ask @dreamy rose ) But I in no way believing a GPGPU is the way to go for AI

[full fossil]

They were pre nvidia, then knvidia bought them and integreated it within the GPU

[dreamy rose]

PhysX was created by Nvidia.

[full fossil]

nope, Ageia

[dusky jacinth]

They could, but to defy physics is another thing that I wouldn't expect them to accomplish, so instead it's better to just play smarter and try doing something more within reason when it comes to the next generational performance leap.
That's where AMD purposefully pushing Nvidia to keep trying to stay on top benefits them, as they can just pace and figure out what actually works best for what they want to do.

[dusky jacinth]

^Bingo

[full fossil]

I wanted an intel card, until I saw the benchmarks lol.

It had the coolest design I've seen in a min

[solemn path]

Guys, when I power up the laptop and load the "Dell" logo, it stucks at a black screen with a "-" flashing

[dreamy rose]

Function before form. keep that in mind

[dusky jacinth]

Current PhysX is.
Originally, it was made to run on a PPU (Physics Processing Unit), which was a multi-core MIPS accelerator card made by Ageia.
Then Nvidia bought them out and changed it into a middleware instead that can run in software or in gpu compute.

[graceful burrow]

boot device, reinstall windows

[solemn path]

Does it mean my OS is gone or corrupted?

[full fossil]

#1027757333117415424 best place to go so you don't get lost in the convo

[echo canopy]

That’s what I was trying to say. Nvidia runs it in software on their gpus and retroactively added support for their older cards

[full fossil]

You can still run a second card as physX card lol

It's pretty much pointless, but you can

[dusky jacinth]

True, as long as the game (or drivers) supported it.

[echo canopy]

That still runs it with general compute. Dedicated physX hardware no longer exists

[full fossil]

I know, it's all done with CUDA now

[solemn path]

No one is free in there to help me so..

[echo canopy]

I doubt it. GPGPU also has its advantages and can do things you simply can’t on current “TPUs”

Nor does nvidia use GPGPU for tensor calculations already

[dreamy rose]

there's issues that plague RDNA 3 on a Silicon level that they have already figured out and squashed. wouldn't say its impossible to get Chiplets to go well.

[full fossil]

I really wish AMD had a CUDA alternative (They technically have ROCm but don't have support on gaming cards for it so yeah)

[dusky jacinth]

PhysX was mostly just for computing certain graphical detail physics in rendering anyway.

[graceful burrow]

that doesnt make it not the right channel, your problem will get lost here

[dreamy rose]

they have been adding support. its just not everywhere yet

[graceful burrow]

discord why you no reply

[echo canopy]

NAVI 21 and all rdna3 cards have official full support except some missing library’s on windows

[full fossil]

PhysX is a very specific toolkit and needs CUDA, There are like 3 modern games that use it, most engines have build in phyics that have different implimentations

[dusky jacinth]

The chiplets are fine is what I was saying. It's that because they are using chiplets, they have to eat the cost that comes with their physical limitations or at least accomodate them, which comes from them not being a single die.

[full fossil]

AMD emulate PhysX in OpenCL IIRC

[echo canopy]

AMD can’t as it’s a nvidia only technology

[dreamy rose]

they have their own physicas thing dont they.

[dusky jacinth]

They do now.

[echo canopy]

Most physic engines run on cpu besides particle simulations

[full fossil]

They don't not on gaming cards. ROCm is their alternative but limited to pro cards

[dusky jacinth]

Yeah, and now it's available, even for consumer cards.

[echo canopy]

they do on navi 21 cards and all of RDNA3

[full fossil]

Interesting

[echo canopy]

And you can get it working on much older cards on Linux

[dusky jacinth]

And it was timed so that we can now have it finally on Windows.

[dreamy rose]

they have FEMFX.

[full fossil]

Now we just need people to implement it

[echo canopy]

It’s even ON WINDOWS

[dusky jacinth]

I even have that SDK downloaded to.

Not that I know what to do with it yet, but I have it for at least whenever I'm able to find a suitable use for it that works for me. Lmao.

[full fossil]

I don't care who I buy my folding GPUs from, I just need the best perf/W

[echo canopy]

You can run stable diffusion on it for like a 4x In performance

[full fossil]

Which is a 4070ti ATM

[echo canopy]

Direct-ml only gets like 2 iterations a second and SHARK gets 4 on a 6950xt while on ROCm you get closer to 14

[dusky jacinth]

Sure, but as an artist myself, I kinda don't care much about Stable Diffusion to begin with.
I already found a use for DAIN and now figuring out it's successor in RIFE, which is creating in-betweens I can use for keyframe target references when animating.

[echo canopy]

RIFE isn’t a successor to DAIN

[full fossil]

I feel they had to make it look good, it was the worst overall performance I've seen in a card in years.

[dusky jacinth]

SD, or really any of the generative AIs of it's type serves me... No real purpose.

[echo canopy]

RIFE in a lot of ways besides vram and speed is worse then DAIN as they’re both based on two entirely separate technologies

[dusky jacinth]

On that note of RIFE being worse than DAIN, I actually agree with you on that, since I know basically what it tries to do with it's interpolating process.

DAIN basically does it like a standard interpolation algorithm like we've seen with tvs for years: it sees the key frames and it then tries to blend them, drawing an inbetween (or trying to) that transitions more smoothly to the next.

[echo canopy]

PyTorch already has a port that runs on ROCm so any project that uses it you will probably have a AMD compatible version of it soon

Instead of filthy cuda

[dusky jacinth]

RIFE now attempts this process, but apparently no matter whether or not you tell it to NOT de-dupe frames, it will try to get rid of frames it doesn't think need to be used or seem to similar to another.

Which if your animation is short or emulates certain motions or smear-frames, it can really mess it up in a noticeable way.

Like you need a ton of key frames for this to not be an issue, or animate on like... 4s or 5s for whatever reason so it doesn't just go and cull way too much.

[echo canopy]

RIFE does not do that at all

[dusky jacinth]

It does for me.

[echo canopy]

Maybe that’s a side effect of how it works but that’s not it’s intention

[dusky jacinth]

It might not be, but that's what it does with what I put into it.

[echo canopy]

I’ve personally yet to see that tho

[dusky jacinth]

Sometimes I just wonder if it's because of how Flowframes is configured, but even I don't know what's causing it.

[echo canopy]

DAIN main selling point is being depth aware which prevents bluring if there are multiple subjects in a scene/of the foreground or background.

This gives the video a overall sharper image RIFE fails to achieve and prevents some pretty noticeable artifacts

[graceful burrow]

damn talk about nerd chat amirite

[echo canopy]

You’ve ever seen a video interpolates with RIFE that has gasp SUBTITLES?

It’s dogshit

[dusky jacinth]

Nope and I don't care enough to see.

[full fossil]

Subtitles are amazing

[echo canopy]

Subtitles are amazing but burned in ones are shit

[dusky jacinth]

After seeing the stuff I watch being put through RIFE or anything similar, I just don't want to see anything else done that way.

[echo canopy]

Optical flow should just die

[graceful burrow]

finally something i understand and also agree with

[dusky jacinth]

My own self-made animations just benefit from me figuring out how to make use optical flow as a tool to figure out something and then not rely on it for anything afterwards. Lol.

It's a screwed up crutch if you try to use it for interpolation and calling it a day.

[full fossil]

Yup

That's 💯

[torn wind]

Bread

[full fossil]

Bruh

[graceful burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074266

[torn wind]

No enough bread speak from you

[fierce moth]

Bread

[torn wind]

Prime example of what you need to seems 🍞

[echo canopy]

oh and I wouldn’t count AMD out of the ML race just yet. On paper they have the fastest GPU in the world rn for general purpose compute and they’re starting working on dedicated ASICs for it and just bought one of the biggest producers of FPGAs

[full fossil]

I like my bread how I like my fries. A bunch of garlic.

Ya feel me? That hot garlic breath I got is a gift for everyone.

[full fossil]

If you invited me over and gave me that, I would think you don't like me.

What'd I even do bruh?

[full fossil]

You know what you did 😠

[full fossil]

Bruh, of all the people to be mad at me. Y'all doubled my bill last month for no reasons! And then charged me extra for "adjustments"

I'm talking about fettuccine Alfredo today no bread.

[full fossil]

Listen if you have a complain write us a letter. Like a real paper letter. I use the shreddings for cat litter. Because that's how much we care about our customers "feedback"

[full fossil]

Not even surprised. ISPs all can kick rocks.

Bread is only good with butter.

[full fossil]

But if I'm kicking rocks I can't think of even more surcharges to add on your contract

[full fossil]

You are evil and need to be stopped.

https://tenor.com/view/roleoutsold-gif-21800708

[full fossil]

But we need that extra money, we are upgrading our network! Honestly, we aren't declaring record profits and paying our CEO obscene amounts of money... right?

Spectrum, why are you the way you are. Now my gifs are failing cause of you, are gifs extra now?

[median cliff]

bread

[full fossil]

It's garlic hour!

Don't regular bread here.

[median cliff]

embed fail 💀

[full fossil]

I meant to do that.

[full fossil]

Yes, 11.99 a month surcharge to send gifs

[median cliff]

bread guys

[full fossil]

Evil!!!

[median cliff]

thats what they all say

[full fossil]

Why's everyone fighting me?

[median cliff]

oh, darthtrol...

[full fossil]

Ones trying to mess up my bill, other one is calling me typical.

Y'all both eat bland food.

[median cliff]

yes

bread 👍

[full fossil]

Don't forget the, downloading surcharge, the line rental, the required SIM contract, the Christmas party surcharge, the bonus profit surcharge and the "just because you have no choice" surcharge

[full fossil]

...

[shut lichen]

imagine not having good internet/mobile providers

[full fossil]

Can you help? Spectrum is attacking ... my bill!

[shut lichen]

step 1: don't be american

[full fossil]

Oh and we are increasing your bill by 10% + rate of inflation

[full fossil]

I will undo my birth ok, what's the next step?

[full fossil]

You know, we have families to feed

[full fossil]

OHHHHH MY GAWD

My whole paycheck is a gosh darn spectrum bill.

If you have a dispute with this bill, please email us at WeDontCare*@spectrumdot*net

We do aim to answer all support tickets within 6 months 🙂 the best support of any ISP in your area

https://tenor.com/view/witch-queen-laugh-evil-laugh-witch-hive-gif-11134479926288657310

I joke but in my village in the UK we only really have one option too

I can either have a 300/50 connection that drops multiple times a day, or a 16/3 connection that costs almost as much as the other but at least it never dies

[shut lichen]

come to nz, our standard fiber plan is 300/100 and very reliable

[serene flare]

how much does that run you

[full fossil]

I just need community fibre to expand to me. They moved into the village next to me recently so I'm hopeful

[full fossil]

My 300/50 is like 50USD a month

[shut lichen]

like $78nzd or something

[full fossil]

But obviously I pay in my own currency

[shut lichen]

which is like $45usd

[serene flare]

in nz you can get 1000/500 for like $89 nzd

$52usd

[full fossil]

Mine is 366/13 lolol

But at my work I have 1 gig

[shut lichen]

myrupublic nz is dead
finally that australian shit is gone

[full fossil]

Community fibre currently offers symmetric gigabit but their ONTs and network can do 2.5g just need them to roll it out

[serene flare]

what happened to it lol?

[shut lichen]

they've fucked off back to australia by the looks of it

[serene flare]

oh damn, i was gonna get them at one point because they were offering hyperfiber, which literally no ISP offers for some reason

[full fossil]

Bread?

[full fossil]

We have a surcharge for that

[shut lichen]

the main ones don't offer it yet because it's not widely available yet.

[serene flare]

its available where I am though, i asked spark and they thought i was talking about fibre max 💀

[full fossil]

✓evil

[serene flare]

it looks like they are still offering their mobile plans though, but they just use the One NZ's network

[shut lichen]

well yeah of course their underpaid support person thought you were talking about the max plan they offer, since they don't offer hyperfiber yet

2 degrees are doing hyperfiber now though

[serene flare]

true, really hope they offer it soon though

[full fossil]

I feel satellite will have some break through.

[serene flare]

ill look into that

[shut lichen]

I'll get hyperfiber when skinny offer it lol, I ain't overpaying for that shit

[serene flare]

word

[full fossil]

Bread in basket?

[serene flare]

yes that

[full fossil]

Starlink is really interesting, but just too expensive

Too expensive for me, it has a place in the market

[serene flare]

oh damn i can get hyperfibre 4

[full fossil]

It's not for a standard consumer yet, but if you need internet globally. It's the best option rn.

[shut lichen]

damn you and your chorus connection

fucking enable are taking forever with hyperfiber here in chch

[serene flare]

hehe

[full fossil]

Yeah it is, basically anyone can order it, they even have a residential and a pro dishy now

[serene flare]

it looks like im stuck with their weird orbi mesh router though

theres no option not to get it

oh neat its free nvm

[full fossil]

No, not that residential can't have it. It just economically doesn't make sense. I don't think satellite as of now is a good option for the average consumer, yet.

[serene flare]

its good if you live in a dead spot that only has 3g

[full fossil]

That is nice.

[full fossil]

I mean, it depends how you define average consumer. If you in a village, a farm, a ranch, in the outback, most of Africa, it makes sense. That's a lot of people

[shut lichen]

with how shit some residential internet is in america, it can make sense for them.
but otherwise, unless you're rural or using it on a caravan or something, it doesn't really make sense

[brisk hawk]

bought a computer that has a 0-60 of 3 seconds, bet you don't have that sort of power

[full fossil]

Can it do a wheelie and a burnout?

At the same time!

[dreamy rose]

that must be a 13900K to get that hot so fast

[brisk hawk]

it doesn't do wheelies it does squarelies and it overheats but doesn't burnout

[shut lichen]

current prices for the 2 main fiber plans with skinny, prices are nzd of course
can also be $10 cheaper if you've got a $27 or higher mobile plan with them

[full fossil]

Perfect! Throw it directly into the trash can and let's get a computer!

[shut lichen]

nz ISP protip: avoid the ones that offer both internet and power, they're always shit

[left magnet]

Finding myself disliking starfield more and more as I progress.

The graphics are mediocre compared to others, the dialogues are just weird, the performance is crap (7900XT, 1080p), the story makes less and less sense as it progresses, and it’s just. So. Repetitive.

Why did i waste the write endurance on this. I genuinely regret installing a game I got free.

[full fossil]

Wakanda Forevaaaa

[full fossil]

cheese

[copper girder]

anyone know what is this thing named? and where to get them? #tech-chat-2

[dreamy rose]

its a stick

[copper girder]

ahh its just a normal rgb stick and some zip ties

cool idea

[full fossil]

wakanda forever X

ebombe

[zealous drum]

heads

shoulders knees and toes knees and toes

and eyes and ears and mouths and nose

[full fossil]

heh

[polar fern]

I did it.

I built new pc

No, I’m not going to cable manage it

[full fossil]

omagoss

segsy

but wires

not looking good

[polar fern]

No one is going to be able to see the inside

[full fossil]

whhhy no tranparent panel??????

[polar fern]

I am going to cable tie a few of the longer cable runs to keep them out of the fans, but that’s it

There is a transparent panel but its facing away from me and I’m not going to be looking in anyway

[full fossil]

as long as u are fineee

so its okay

[polar fern]

Yes, I’m very happy with it

[full fossil]

nice

[polar fern]

Before I put the front back on

[rustic holly]

[polar fern]

🍞

[rustic holly]

Bread.

[left vector]

is a pc or all in one system better (no upgrades just looks and usability)

[polar fern]

All in ones can do upgrades but it’s definitely a case-by-case basis type thing

[left vector]

but it might be hard cuz its all jammed in there

[polar fern]

Nah

[left vector]

hmm

[polar fern]

Like I said, it really depends on the specific model and stuff

[left vector]

ok

[polar fern]

Like if you’re talking an iMac, there is only two parts in there

[full fossil]

How dare y'all bread.

[left vector]

lenovo ideacentre

[polar fern]

The ideacentre with the computer bits built into the back of the screen?

[full fossil]

At least the power cord disconnects.

Can you even believe the state of Bread nowadays?

[left vector]

ye

[full fossil]

Nobody cares.

They all just go about their day like bread is bread.

[left vector]

has anyone heard of osn

[left vector]

i only eat the crust

[polar fern]

Lenovo sells a tiny form factor computer that fits into a bracket on the back of certain models of their monitors. One of the models has built-in speakers and stuff and a WebCam.

[full fossil]

Outside Side Night?

[left vector]

yea that one

[full fossil]

How dare you foster this horrible idea.

[left vector]

with peanut (no butter)

thats true btw

[full fossil]

I wage war against your peanut no butter technique

[polar fern]

Those are very cool, but they don’t have a huge amount of power going on, mostly used for office/admin/video meetings.

[left vector]

its my dads old computer

[polar fern]

Ohh nice.

[left vector]

but its an i7 with 16 gigs

ram

[polar fern]

Which i7?

[full fossil]

Can I bread this situation?

[full fossil]

I7 bro, it is.

[left vector]

i7-4770S

[full fossil]

Sadness

[left vector]

ye

[polar fern]

You could probably use that for doing school work, but not much else

[left vector]

i mainly use it for business and stuff

[polar fern]

Yeah, they really have a very good lineup of business oriented hardware.

[full fossil]

If it works, it works. Maybe switch to an SSD boot drive if it's not already.

[left vector]

ik

[left vector]

2 tb ssd

[polar fern]

Lenovo & Dell both do, but I can’t stand dell customer service.

[full fossil]

Nice

[left vector]

how abt hewlett packard

[full fossil]

SSD breathe new life into old hardware.

All hail the solid stateness.

[polar fern]

Meh on hp

[full fossil]

They make SSD active cooling now

[left vector]

i have a 5 gb hdd

[polar fern]

I need to sleep. Y’all be good.

[left vector]

its 2:36 pm here

[full fossil]

All that storage?

[left vector]

ye

[full fossil]

That's false.

[left vector]

how

[full fossil]

Unless you are Canadian.

[left vector]

im indian.....

[full fossil]

How dare you.

[left vector]

w...h....y......

[full fossil]

Because, if it's 2:30 where you are at then we are screwed.

[left vector]

how?

pm not am

[full fossil]

Canada has poutine bro. And you are across the pond.

If you don't poutine then we are all screwed.

Did you even consider what would happen?

[left vector]

isnt poutine a dish with french fries and curd

[full fossil]

You totally just googled that.

[left vector]

yea

[full fossil]

Fake

[left vector]

how am i supposed to know what that means

[full fossil]

Bro!

[wary summit]

fkin hate coil whine

[left vector]

ok?

[full fossil]

How am I suppose to know what any of that means?

[left vector]

google

[full fossil]

It's a sound.

[left vector]

i replied ok o_o

[full fossil]

Now what?

[left vector]

idk

im gonna eat bread crist with peanuts and sugar

[full fossil]

What the fuck is that?

[left vector]

bread crust

[full fossil]

Are you familiar with breadersnexus?

[left vector]

no...

[full fossil]

They did a hit piece on bread tech tips, and now breadersnexus is about to upload another video.

[left vector]

im gonna poo

bye

[full fossil]

That's what both networks did

[left vector]

what

[left vector]

im back

[polar fern]

I’ll before I go to specs on the new computer

64 gigs ram. 2 tb nvme boot drive. Ryzen 7 5700g. Asrock b550 taichi am4. Msi rx 6650 xt 8 gig. 850 watt evga psu.

[left vector]

can anyone give me a pc

[full fossil]

I hate blue leds, I'm just so sick of seeing them on everything, can we go back to nice soft white lighting

[left vector]

how abt green

[full fossil]

Not gonna lie, I don't like you, you give me uncomfortable vibes so Imma just retreat to the FP chat

[left vector]

ik

i just annoy

[dull tapir]

anyone knows what the difference is between EMEA and EU version of key for ubisoft

i am familiar with EU but no idea what EMEA is and whether or not it has any impact

is it also just regional

but expanded

[chilly fiber]

EMEA is just a standard organisational region region for companies. It stands for Europe, Middle East & Africa.

[dull tapir]

alright thx this was my understanding expanded to middle east and africa

[chilly fiber]

It's totally not like the EU in the way that there's any special treaties

[dull tapir]

but does it have any impact

[mild current]

i want some sweet carrot

[tired glade]

Get some

[chilly fiber]

Kinda? As it's a standard business region for a lot of international companies. Most of the time it means that the EU office also serves Africa and the Middle East

Because of the proximity

[tired glade]

Africa isn't small place,you know

[full fossil]

ik

[full fossil]

not small, but economically it's pretty small

[chilly fiber]

Like you can also have LTT NA, LTT Latin and LTT Asia

[mild current]

@left vector May I have some Gajar Ka Halwa

[tired glade]

Depends how you vault materials from which made microchips

[full fossil]

but a lot of asian and africans can speak english

a lot idk what percentage

so not sure

let me seee googgle

[full fossil]

no where near as high as you think

[full fossil]

ikk i think i assumed too much

[mild current]

Some Asians only speak English

[tired glade]

French is also pretty high in Africa

[full fossil]

or shold I say, they aren't good enough to count as speaking english, much like my spanish lmfao

[tired glade]

Most of Asia is China and India

And english in Beijing isn't that popular

[full fossil]

na broo

[full fossil]

south koreons too i guess

[full fossil]

not really, by population at least

[full fossil]

again i assumingg dk real percentage

[full fossil]

There are about half as many people in SK than there are in the uk

[tired glade]

50 million isn't much to 2.5 Billion with 2 countries

[full fossil]

Huh they have a few more than I thought

But still a drop in the bucket

[tired glade]

North is like 40million

[mild current]

Pakistan, Taiwan and Ukraine get more recognition than Australian English

[tired glade]

Kinda

[full fossil]

tru

[mild current]

Not even Discord acknowledges Australia in their language settings

[full fossil]

what do u mean couldnt understand

[mild current]

Try to find English (AU) in language settings for Discord for example

[tired glade]

Because english originated from England

[full fossil]

is thier major difference?

[empty pollen]

more cursing.

[mild current]

Please explain English (US) and English (UK)

[tired glade]

Because it's USA company

You won't find Indian English on that list too

Or South Africa

[full fossil]

but all three are alphabetically same

words have same meaning

[empty pollen]

English is already a dumpster fire of a language, we dont need to go making it even more complicated.

[full fossil]

Not true

[tired glade]

Is there Walsh option for Discord?

[full fossil]

bro idian dont need that to make english indian

Many words have vastly different meanings

[mild current]

We gave up on recognition in the 90's

[tired glade]

India is biggest English speaking country on planet

[full fossil]

I mean, only 12% of Indians say they speak English

[bright silo]

Ugh why is it always so hard to make through the second half of night shift… I want it to be over already lol

[full fossil]

ikk but we dont need

dosent make sense

[chilly fiber]

I demand that Discord should support EU English

[full fossil]

its prominent in middle class and upper class

but upcoming generation of most classes can speak

[tired glade]

You were asking why there is us version of English and not for every dealegs

[full fossil]

But in my experience many who claim to speak English do so, so poorly I don't think they should claim that they can

[empty pollen]

I saw a saw saw salsa while sawing a see saw.

[full fossil]

truuu

Like I can understand very basic Spanish, but wouldn't go around saying I can speak Spanish yknow

Although I hope to get there someday

[full fossil]

indian who know english porrly is because of standard of education

I'm aware

in metropolitan cities teacher are of good quality

[tired glade]

You fine for Spain trip

[full fossil]

but go to towns that standard of teachers drop

[full fossil]

Naa, just wanted to learn a second language

they can understand and speak but just bare minimum

[tired glade]

Oh, just second

[full fossil]

go to cities and in good icse schools that standard is vry high

[empty pollen]

Want to learn a language? Start hanging out in VC for a guild or gaming group where you are around that language. Will force you to pick it up as people actually speak it.

[full fossil]

That's the plan eventually

[tired glade]

Are you sure you want to even open voice in games?

[empty pollen]

lol

[thin fjord]

misread this as "Want to learn sign language?" and thought it was a joke

[full fossil]

For guilds and things like DnD and RPGs chats are pretty tame tbh

[empty pollen]

Public chat space is probably not a great place to start lol.

[tired glade]

Yea, maybe that

[empty pollen]

Speak up.

[full fossil]

btw how many languages can u guys speak

[tired glade]

5

[full fossil]

bruhh

[thin fjord]

1.75

[full fossil]

English and a little Spanish

But I would say one

[full fossil]

bruh

[tired glade]

Welcome to eastern Europe

[full fossil]

honest

[thin fjord]

i took French in my freshman year then spent the rest with spanish

[full fossil]

ohhh u fromm theree

[empty pollen]

I can read and respond to 4 can only speak english. I live in email most of the time.

[full fossil]

lvls up india

[tired glade]

Technically we are North Europe,but not really

[full fossil]

I'm British, I speak the language we expect everyone to speak even though it makes no sense

[tired glade]

Yea, right

[empty pollen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGuGzH3Ne5w

[thin fjord]

maybe we aren't so different afterall

[full fossil]

some british accents are so funny

[dreamy rose]

you speak bo'ol o wa'er?

[full fossil]

well

jamie caraghers accent is shit

[tired glade]

There are about 50 district Scottish English accents out there

[full fossil]

Not gonna lie, I've had enough of you so just gonna ignore you. Have a good day though

[empty pollen]

lol.

[full fossil]

xD

[mild current]

I just found out there is iVentoy

[dreamy rose]

you only JUST Found out about Ventoy?

[full fossil]

ekhane kyo ki english jane

[full fossil]

I'm not sure, but just in case, we are an English server, try to stick to that language

[full fossil]

for fun i wrote in a nother language

calm down bro

I'm completely calm

okay my bad

[mild current]

iVentoy, it's Ventoy for network booting

[full fossil]

I don't get angry or wound up these days, it's not worth the energy

[dreamy rose]

sounds grouse

[mild current]

Us white people are fragile and weak, if pushed we break out in war

[mild current]

Sure does mate

[full fossil]

truuu

[dreamy rose]

i wish i could use Ethernet. but no we have to have concrete walls

[mild current]

To be fair, WiFi is not a problem these days

[dreamy rose]

Meanwhile every Australian is buff AF and starts fights

[chilly fiber]

Then rent a hammer drill.

[dreamy rose]

all up to my parents not me

[carmine light]

So I made homemade butter and let it age in my refrigerator for about a month. When I took it out it had a slight parmesan cheese smell. Kinda funky so I was worried but I looked it up and apparently that's a desireable outcome. It even has a name in different cultures.
It tastes incredible

[mild current]

We just pissed because we are still being invaded by the British

[full fossil]

what other option u have

[full fossil]

buff???

[dreamy rose]

Wifi. which i hate being stuck with

[carmine light]

buff means stronk

[full fossil]

I have like 28 ethernet jacks installed in this property, fully brick and concrete walls

[full fossil]

lets start war on british

#anti brtish

[full fossil]

Do it

simon we are coming

[mild current]

yes please

[full fossil]

Down with the Brits!

[carmine light]

Come now, the British have more than atoned for their sins

[mild current]

disabled fucks

[dreamy rose]

this is a picture of the average Australian man

[carmine light]

atoned - make amends or reparation

[full fossil]

brooo

u hab done nothinggg

[carmine light]

Well I'm not british

I'm a gawd damn American YEEEEEHAW

[full fossil]

oh then why fight u

[full fossil]

ughh

[dreamy rose]

https://tenor.com/view/engine-engineer-tf2-dance-gif-9730278

[carmine light]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-cowboy-western-gif-14191576

[empty pollen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ly0DTSEDD0

Video of.

[carmine light]

I find Americans and Australians have a lot in common

[full fossil]

leb this i said war on britain

[vivid cloak]

I'm about to commit bread

[full fossil]

but linus canadian and candains are cousins of british

[dreamy rose]

we are nothing alike tho.

[carmine light]

Britain is already thoroughly destroying itself. Just let nature take it's course

[full fossil]

Just remember article 5 of the NATO treaty 😉

[full fossil]

bro even usa

[carmine light]

true facts

[full fossil]

ughhh

[full fossil]

I don't even have one and I live in a flat with dry wall

[full fossil]

That's just lazy

[full fossil]

why cant british just pisss of every europeana nation like old times

[full fossil]

arent all walls dry

[empty pollen]

I like getting my deposit back so I run cables down the hall.

[full fossil]

Too be fair, I can't just run cables through the walls because I am renting this place

[full fossil]

No, many of them are wet, like when it rains, or the bathroom

[full fossil]

I'm renting too!!

[empty pollen]

Wet wall is actually a term.

[carmine light]

I always thought of Australians as like British rednecks. They just live waaaaay down south, as opposed to a little down south like in the US

[full fossil]

Do a good job and they love it

[full fossil]

bruhh lame jk

My flat also has wood flooring for the bathroom, like wtf bruv

[crystal mirage]

I partially disagree as the people here are completely different but government policy and decision for a lot of things are similar to the usa

[empty pollen]

Often in a complex all the bathrooms will line up with the "wet wall" that has all the plumbing in it.

[full fossil]

australians are good ........... so good i forget they exist

[full fossil]

No, the council would crawl up my ass

[dreamy rose]

ppl say we are western when we are South eastern in reality

[full fossil]

Health and safety

[full fossil]

I'm in council renting, council's care even less

[carmine light]

Well technically everything is West if you travel far enough

[full fossil]

the east declares war on west

[empty pollen]

In the US I would not do this without prior approval. Just because you think the jack looks good there does not mean the owner wants you to do that.

[dreamy rose]

technically if you end your maps the wrong way, the middle east becomes the middle west

[carmine light]

Turn the map upside down. Finally, peace

[full fossil]

When I move out of this place the council charges me for every bit of damage and furniture and they never seem to fix up the flats after the tenants leave

[full fossil]

war on the council

the jedi council will be finished

[full fossil]

I've done it to every house I've been in, worst thing is you may lose your security deposit, which I've never, because I literally used to do structured cabling as an apprentice while doing my degree in networking

They charge you for damage caused by the previous Tennant and never fix shit

dark vader will prevail

That money has to go somewhere lol

[carmine light]

And in some places, the Landlord will complain just because they know they can keep your security deposit. I never do work unless I have to or clear it first

[dreamy rose]

they need a way to scam you out of some money

[full fossil]

wakanda forvever X

[empty pollen]

I have credentials as well, I would not even bring in my insured contractor that I use at work without prior approval.

[carmine light]

Also, sometimes a "small" project ends up being a rat's nest of issues because of shoddy prior work

[empty pollen]

Yep, on move out that is free money to them.

So I do my best to keep it.

[full fossil]

At least I got a decent building manager that tries his best. He recently routed fibre through several stories just so that I could have gigabit

[dreamy rose]

gigabit 😢

[carmine light]

Just for gigabit? You can get gigabit over copper

[full fossil]

Not in London lol, plans max out at 60mb/s here

[full fossil]

Hell you can get 2.5 and higher over coax

I'm guessing that it's a marketing thing

[empty pollen]

You can get a LOT of transfer out of coax as a technology.

[carmine light]

Well, I misspoke a little. If the network is fiber up to the drop, and then goes to copper you can maintain high bandwidth for the most part.

There's so many other factors too tho

[full fossil]

Definitely, way now then we could probably list here

[carmine light]

I think the big thing with fiber is latency right? Devices notwithstanding

[full fossil]

The manager literally got Fibre cabling from Virgin Media instead of copper so theoretically when they other higher speeds I can easily upgrade

[carmine light]

Yeah that'll be great for years to come, provided it lasts.

[full fossil]

Rn for consumers the max speeds that you can get is 3Gb/s for £90/m with Community Fibre

Afaik virgin don't have a fibre network yet, they are a docsis provider, but planning to roll out fibre

[empty pollen]

Manager: installs fiber Also manager: buys one gig sfp

[carmine light]

Idk wtf I'd even do with 3gig lol. 1gig was more than enough for me when I had it. Now I live on a mountain and only have access to T-Mobile 5G internet 😭

[full fossil]

Yeah but for some odd reason my flat literally has direct Fibre

[empty pollen]

Well if you are looking at starlink, id look elsewhere. They are all over the road for being reliable.

[full fossil]

What ONT they using?

[full fossil]

Didn't tell me

[full fossil]

Send me a picture

[neon mesa]

i mean if you compare to land fiber sure
but if you have access to land fiber you're not starlink target audience

[full fossil]

You'll have a little box with a fibre and ethernet connection somewhere

[carmine light]

Starlink isn't in my area last I checked, but if they could get me better than the ~150Mbps down I get now, I'd happily jump ship

[full fossil]

They terminate it with a fancy wall socket

[empty pollen]

No just as a service, starlink is having massive QOS issues. I was also responding right after someone with only cell internet connection made a comment.

[full fossil]

None of the other fibre providers do that here. You have a ONT on the wall

[full fossil]

As someone that lived of 12mb/s in the heart of London for several years until getting gigabit less than a month ago I doubt that 150mb/s is that bad too be fair

[carmine light]

It is when you're a power user, with multiple people using the internet daily. It's not horrible though. I've def. had worse

The problem isn't the average bandwidth, it's that it drops severely during peak hours

And being 5G mobile internet in the mountains, weather

[empty pollen]

I have att fiber, the complex I live in signed a contract so they are the only wired provider here. Major BS, I have starlink on my truck for in motion streaming.

That att fiber also sucks due to being oversubscribed. Some days my starlink is actually more reliable.

[full fossil]

The manager might be wrong then as if I do recall correctly the technician said something about taking the cable used for aerial and terminating that and I presume that's copper. In fact that's definitely copper. But I also remember the technician stating that he gave the management a big spool of fibre cabling

[carmine light]

I wonder how much of that is due to current ongoing conflicts? They've been in the news a few times for providing service to Ukraine. It wouldn't be crazy to assume they deal with cyber attacks.

[full fossil]

There are two network cabinets in the building so I guess it might of been to run fibre between thoughs.

[empty pollen]

They keep discounting hardware and having sales. They are starving for cashflow.

Adding more and more people without overhead.

Like a 90s dial up isp all over again.

[full fossil]

Interesting. That's definitely copper. The way Virgin dose large buildings is fibre to a node to the basement then coax(copper) aerial to the rest of the building

Ones a virgin media one and one is a more traditional cabinet that has a max speed of 12mb/s per customer until I managed to get the manager to install fibre.

[carmine light]

I think that's how most ISPs do it, outside of enterprise stuff and even then if it's a small business it's probably not all fiber

[full fossil]

Because the rest of the building had fibre and the basement flats didn't

I presume they were too lazy the first time round

[full fossil]

Openreach do fibre right to the individual units in many places

[carmine light]

That's neat

[full fossil]

FTTH right?

[full fossil]

Correct

[chilly compass]

guys ive always wondered, is it possible for windows to stuck at "shutting down" screen?

[chilly fiber]

Not really, here in the Netherlands FTTH is really FTTH. Can't sell it as fiber otherwise

[carmine light]

The Netherlands tend to be an exception in most regards, I find lol

[chilly fiber]

If the installation is corrupt, yes

[carmine light]

They always do shit right

[dreamy rose]

you mean if it exists?

[full fossil]

I got a phone call from community fibre saying that their 3Gb/s service was available at my previous residential after I moved out lol. I was devastated as after that I had to deal with 12mb/s for 2/3's of a year

Hahaha

[dreamy rose]

Windows will break for no damn reason

[full fossil]

Community fibre moved into the village next to mine, so fingers crossed for me

[full fossil]

Windows loves to do that

[dreamy rose]

it has a hard on for self destruction.

[full fossil]

yes

[full fossil]

They have 1Gb/s for £25/m in London. It's great lol but they still haven't come to my flat bloc because of Virgin's Media's Exlusivity deal

[short copper]

isps got something against my hometown man im staying in a village 1/10th the population and theyve still got internet twice as fast

[full fossil]

I'm paying £44/m for 1Gb down and 113mb up currently

[full fossil]

Rip, btw those deals are illegal in the UK, you can challenge it

[full fossil]

Seriously?

[dreamy rose]

75AUD a month gets you 50/20 here

[full fossil]

Yeah

[short copper]

idk how much shes paying but my mum gets 30/5 in my hometown

[full fossil]

You just gave me some shit to do lol, thanks

[full fossil]

Well it's kinda illegal, it's complicated. Basically you need two "viable" options. What are considered viable options? Who knows. They can't agree to limit competition

[tidal minnow]

Bro 45 pounds a month gets 350 mbps

For my mum anyways. Our WiFi is contracted with the estate.

[full fossil]

In most parts of London:

FTTH

CISAS may be able to help you @full fossil

[tidal minnow]

What the heck bruv

It must be cause i live in the south west

[full fossil]

For 12mb and above in the entire Flat Bloc the only option is Gigabit is Virgin Media. Hyperoptic and Community Fibre have literally installed in the entire area but this very specific Flat Bloc, so something shady is definitely going on

[full fossil]

Mate, this is the SW

I literally live in SW London 💀

[full fossil]

Thank you

Happy to help

[full fossil]

Alternatively they're OFCOM too

[tidal minnow]

Sw england

[full fossil]

Oh

[tidal minnow]

My bad for not specifying mb

I'm assuming that it matters alot on location then?

[full fossil]

Pretty much, the more demand, the more competition, the lower the prices. Basic economics for the most part

[tidal minnow]

I don't do business gcse ):

[carmine light]

I ran into my old HS science teacher at the grocery store while I was in town visiting family. I just said Hi and told her she used to teach me but she acted like I was about to rob her or something lol

I guess I am covered in tattoos now tho, and she's old af

[hardy cobalt]

@tawdry tree

can you throw tomato soup with cheese in it in the toilet?

[tawdry tree]

ok

[full fossil]

I hate that so many people just see me as a disability. They don't see the caring, kind, understanding, gentle person I am. They don't give me a chance to make friends, build a connection, maybe even have that turn into something more. Instead they see my disability and my struggles. They see my awkwardness, my quirky nature, my walking stick, my struggles in crowds and groups.

I get wrote off before I even get given a chance in life and it is slowly eating away at me

[proven sinew]

ok but why is this so good

[past egret]

who the fuck are you

[full fossil]

I've been around these parts for a long time. No need to swear

[mild current]

Ableism

[full fossil]

Oh, don't I know it

[mild current]

It's getting pretty bad here, only ideal people are disabled, otherwise you might end up euthanized or something stupid like that

[full fossil]

Where is here?