public-chat

[full fossil]

The site itself is usually fun to use

[harsh quartz]

yeah, its a shaame that that 90% is the front page

[full fossil]

Good argument

[gleaming compass]

Steve Huffman is the alpha and the omega! In all things we trust the Steve Huffman! May he take all our money for reddit APIs that are worth more than silver, more than gold, more the life itself!

[balmy moat]

I started the conversation about free speech, had nothing to do with anything else. I said "the libertarian in me would like to point out" and had a very civil conversation, until the other person started to insult. I reported them and I got banned. Go figure.

[tidal dawn]

I still miss my Redditisfun 😭

[harsh quartz]

i dont understand who exactly your making fun of here

[tidal dawn]

Funnily enough it worked for months after they cut the APIs, but it eventually died

[balmy moat]

the comment I was banned for was this #public-chat message

[gleaming compass]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Huffman#2023_API_changes

Trust me, this is a fun read

[dense coral]

I do not like or respect most reddit mods

[harsh quartz]

okay im just making sure that it wasnt directed at me, the timing threw me for a loop

[tidal dawn]

I'm gonna try to run Starfield on my Intel Arc GPU soon, it's going to be an interesting time

[gleaming compass]

Reddit and X are tomorrow's MySpace, don't put too much energy into about being banned

[gleaming compass]

No, not poking fun at you unless you happen to be Steve Huffman

[balmy moat]

Yeah, sad truth. Problem is, the successors wont be much better.

[full fossil]

Just VPN and make a new account

[gleaming compass]

It will be G++ from Alphabet and it will be perfect!

[balmy moat]

Ah G+

[tidal dawn]

I remember when I was forced to make a G+ to watch YouTube

[full fossil]

Fuck Google

Bold statements only here

[balmy moat]

w statement

[gleaming compass]

Speaking of disappointing companies...
https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/09/4-okta-customers-hit-by-campaign-that-gave-attackers-super-admin-control/

Lets put our Single Sign On in the cloud from a third party provider... what could possibly go wrong??

[full fossil]

I miss the times of aol and like og RuneScape. Google wasn't permeating through every aspect of life

[prime solstice]

I can’t wait for android 14

[full fossil]

I think my phone gets it this month

OP10 pro

[gleaming compass]

I miss the times when CompuServe wasn't owned by AOL and AOL wasn't owned by Verizon

[prime solstice]

That’s if you can android 14 has been delayed til October

[olive stump]

Okta is one of the best SSO/IdP out there

[full fossil]

I can wait either way

[polar fern]

moar boosters does in fact work

[gleaming compass]

Yeah... but did you read the article? :(

[olive stump]

I read the technical post the article is based on

[dense coral]

your honor,

nuh uh.

[olive stump]

Spoofing a federated IdP with similar looking org/app name, nothing new but Okta does need to tighten up with federation process

Wait until you discover the horror shows Microsoft has with confusable apps

[gleaming compass]

It seems like the type of thing FIDO2 was designed to avoid

[full fossil]

I know some of those words

[gleaming compass]

Sorry, english is a second language for me

[full fossil]

No not your English just the subject matter lmao

I have no clue what you guys are talking about

[olive stump]

Lmao no? SSO providers can implement FIDO but for a lot of orgs rolling out FIDO they’ll still need some sort of SSO/IAM solution

[gleaming compass]

the language makes more sense if you read the SAML specifications three times

[olive stump]

I’ll agree SAML is a trashfire 🙂

[gleaming compass]

I had good success with Keycloak

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/okta-hackers-target-it-help-desks-to-gain-super-admin-disable-mfa/

Et tu Okta?

Can we ban the word "security" when talking about computers and demand the words "mitigation attempt" be used instead?

[faint sentinel]

bread

[olive stump]

“Security” doesn’t imply “secure” 😉

[scarlet relic]

wasnt there something about starfield not running on Arc?

or was that fixed

[molten drift]

I wish I could figure out how to get more performance in secondlife without just getting a beefier graphics card...

But I'm pretty sure the more fps will only be from a GPU upgrade.

[fossil frost]

You can build security measures or "security" for short. But it's always still just something that someone had built out of reproducible hardware and software. If someone can build a wall, someone else can build a ladder

[olive stump]

The goal is to make the wall higher, not to make it ladder-proof (if that makes sense?)

[harsh quartz]

man the battlements and light the oil

[scarlet relic]

time for longer ladders then 🙂

[fossil frost]

Then what happens is that someone else builds a bigger wall, so someone makes a bigger ladder. Next they will recognise this could go on forever, so they accept ladders are a thing and focus on the people on the ladder, so the people on the ladder come up with ways of defeating that too.

It's an arm's race to see who can build a better wall or a better ladder, until one side gives up

[molten drift]

I like the third team option who can build a better hole maker.

[polar fern]

ohai suzi welcome back

[fossil frost]

They are the sort of people who see this arms race going on and then just say "erm, there's a super simple way of bypassing this wall without all this effort, you just need some big guy and a shovel"

[molten drift]

Thanks.

[molten drift]

Their name is Phil. They like mars bars.

[polar fern]

hole in the plot, a flaw in the plan, a simple solution? i'm a huge fan

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/inevitable-mad-uranium-isotopes-bruins-gif-14239863

[summer folio]

ladders? walls?

[harsh quartz]

walls to keep out the breadmen

[full fossil]

Good deal

[jaunty cairn]

Free cat as a thank you?

[lilac thistle]

rlly like the looks of it

Ill get it

[tidal dawn]

There was, Intel released sort of a "hotfix" patch.

The game runs but supposedly not very well, however I have seen that it doesn't really run well on most GPUs so I don't think that's entirely the GPUs fault

They plan on releasing another driver soon that should "further improve performance"

[full fossil]

Classic Bethesda

[harsh quartz]

Idk what people expected for the intel drivers, it’s a fairly new chip that struggles to run old AAA games, little lone brand new ones

[olive stump]

This new norm of needing game-specific drivers sucks, spicy take but I think it’s (partially) covering up some of the QA and development issues in modern games

[harsh quartz]

I mean the AAA games industry and the GPU industry are just 69ing all the time now

GPUs advertise based on the newest games and the newest games advertised based on new graphics with the newest GPUs

[sullen depot]

Hey so I'm trying to update my bios (ASRock x370 killer sli) I formatted the USB to fat32 and I have versions 7.00 and 7.30 (the latest version and the one other one is needed to update to the latest version) as the only thing on the flash drive. I followed all the instructions. When I use instant flash it shows the files briefly before saying no image file detected.

[strange skiff]

Being able to patch games is what started it all. Used to have to make an actually finished game

[fierce moth]

Didn't some game dev say like a bad game is forever bad?

Back when we couldn't patch games

[strange skiff]

It how it used to be. My N64 didn’t have updates lol

[tidal dawn]

Me casually realizing the only thing holding back my download speeds was a slow storage drive 💀

Downloading at much faster speeds than i have previously (even though i was previously on better internet) all because I got a new, actually fast SSD

[fierce moth]

Well as late as the wii

In terms of Nintendo consoles

The wii u was the first Nintendo home console to introduce online patches

For games that is

The wii did have system updates

[strange skiff]

Never had a wii! It was teenage years and I ended up getting a 360, with rock band! Which of course had all the paid DLC to get songs

[fierce moth]

Not even your parents wanted a wii?

The wii was a parent magnet istg

[strange skiff]

They wanted it. But we were what you might call poor. I waited outside best buy for 3 days to be first in line (in california mind you) and get the whole system & game for $25 only way we got it. Game stop was my stomping ground. If teenage me could have just a glimpse of my steam library today I don’t think I would have believed it possible

[gleaming compass]

Every time a vendor contact me about their solution they treat security and secure and interchangeable terms

[manic torrent]

I bought mechwarrior 2 with my supermarket job money in 1995, I would have been 14. Fuck yeah

[gleaming compass]

486?

[low rain]

there was somebody playing roblox at bestbuy using one of the alienware computers 😭

[manic torrent]

I had a pentium 100 at one stage - pretty sure that's what I played MW2 on.

[gleaming compass]

BestBuy didn't have any real computers to play on instead?

[gleaming compass]

Complete with FDIV and F00F bugs?

[manic torrent]

nope, that was prior to the P100, FDIV was <= P90

[gleaming compass]

Some vendors were overclocking the P90 as if they were a P100

I loved Intel's excuses for the FDIV bug

[manic torrent]

... except I have never bought a vendor PC in my life

[gleaming compass]

Nice

[manic torrent]

also F00F was fucking hilarious because IIRC you could DCC request people it and crash their PCs. you could also request +++ATH0 and make their modem hang up

[gleaming compass]

And Intel went from saying they were now making "server" grade processors to saying F00F was no big deal because it just means you have to power cycle the computer

How is a processor server grade if the company making it says power cycling is no big deal??

[manic torrent]

yeah it's not quite that simple - because those numbers need to be calculated vs the cost AND depreciation of a replacement. (edit - the post I replied to was deleted, re car maintenance costing)

[gleaming compass]

I don't remember Sun Microsystems ever saying that power cycling would be no big deal :P

[manic torrent]

yeah but I do remember hours of my life wasted with a laptop and a serial cable fucking around with disk configs 🙂

[gleaming compass]

I loved RS232

[manic torrent]

what do you mean loved, I use it every day

[gleaming compass]

I do as well but no one believes me

I run a stratum 1 NTP server

[manic torrent]

my extra monitors have HDMI KVM (but I only use the HDMI bit) that are controlled over RS232.

so I have an ESP32 that gives me arbitrary control over my monitor routing and my KB/mouse routing.

[gleaming compass]

yeah, that you can afford to use an USB to RS232 adapter for

[manic torrent]

USB? no, TTL->RS232 🙂

[gleaming compass]

the KVM is RS232 voltage or TTL voltage?

[manic torrent]

KVM is RS232, but I'm controlling it directly with an ESP32 which is TTL 3.3V

[gleaming compass]

there is a voltage converter

[manic torrent]

ESP32 then is integrated with home assistant over wifi

hastreamdeck in a docker has a button that allows me to switch everything using my streamdeck attached to the server.

Couldn't be simpler!

[gleaming compass]

I think I have some light bulbs with that SOC

[manic torrent]

almost certainly.

I am using esphome, which allows me to generate the firmware image for them using yaml. much better when you have lots of them.

[rustic pier]

Hardware bob

l thlnk u can help me very much

Please man

[manic torrent]

and when you can get off the shelf switch panels + relays with an ESP8266 in it that you can flash with esphome and have complete control over - winner winner. You can have it be smart, AND have a sensible fallback in an outage

[manic torrent]

I mean, it would help if you asked a question

[rustic pier]

Yes go to dm

[manic torrent]

yeah please don't DM me, I don't care that much

[rustic pier]

l need to show u plcture

[tidal dawn]

🤨

[spice pine]

ask here or dont ask

[rustic pier]

Ok well l want to buy pc

[manic torrent]

you can post a picture anywhere except this channel - then you can link it here

[rustic pier]

What better 2080ti Msi gaming trlo or 3060ti please

[manic torrent]

2080ti

[tidal dawn]

2080ti

[gleaming compass]

pictures can be posted in tech-chat

[spice pine]

2080ti

[rustic pier]

Why ls lt bettter people keep dlffrent

[manic torrent]

because it has more ram, and it's faster.

it is better in every way that matters.

[tidal dawn]

It is a higher performance level card, the 3060 is newer but the 2080 is faster, it is last generations 3080

[rustic pier]

Look at the tech chat

[lethal jay]

2080ti is just more powerful, better performance, more fps

[rustic pier]

Ohhh ok

[gleaming compass]

is there a specific game you primarily are buying it for?

[rustic pier]

Wow man how the hell u guys learn thls stuff

[manic torrent]

The 2080ti is better than the 3070, which is a step above the 3060ti

[rustic pier]

l wanna play rust gta and apex

[manic torrent]

do you feel those watery ball sacks either side of above your nose?

[gleaming compass]

You ever get the feeling that nvidia wants out of the consumer products business and wants to be a B2B and data center products company?

[lethal jay]

Honestly both cards will do either fine, just get the cheaper if you don't care about super high fps

[tidal dawn]

TBH either card would be fine for those 3 games, however if they are a similar price I would highly recommend the 2080

[rustic pier]

So the 2080ti has 32gb ram and the 3060ti pc had 16

[tidal dawn]

If the 3060 is cheaper it might be the better choice

[manic torrent]

I mean, they don't necessarily want OUT, but they certainly don't really give a shit

[lethal jay]

I thought 2080 was 8gb, 3060ti has a 8gb and 12gb variants?

[rustic pier]

1300$ for 3060 and 1500 for 2080

[austere tinsel]

Does anyone know if there's a floatplane-specific forum anywhere on the internet? Twitter seems dead. Couldn't find anything on linustechtips.com. LTT Subreddit had a couple posts, but not much.

[manic torrent]

No

[tidal dawn]

But to be clear, the 2080ti is higher performance than the 3060ti, so just pick whichever one fits your budget

[rustic pier]

lt ls msi gaming trio X 2080ti

[manic torrent]

link your floatplane to discord and get access to the super cool floatplane channel

[gleaming compass]

I think it a couple years that nvidia will consider every chip that leaves the fab for consumer products is money lost because it could have been something fab'd for the B2B market instead

[rustic pier]

Ok thanks you man l love u 😍

[manic torrent]

I assume you're talking about an entire PC here and talking about system memory, not video memory.

[rustic pier]

Hardware bob ls that your ox on the pfp

[manic torrent]

I mean, they're not wrong.

[austere tinsel]

i thought i did this before?? did it break with the discord username changes?

[manic torrent]

yes

[rustic pier]

How much does lt cost l want somethlng Llke that

[manic torrent]

no, it didn't, and IDK what you did man, it works for me 🙂

[austere tinsel]

😩

[lethal jay]

what does ox mean?

[rustic pier]

Pc

[gleaming compass]

But kind of makes one question if there is any point in trying to remain loyal to nvidia as a consumer

[manic torrent]

if you can do it yourself: a lot. If you can't do it yourself: a fuckload.

[manic torrent]

you should never be loyal as a consumer to a large brand

[rustic pier]

Ahhahah

[lethal jay]

Is it all hardlined?

[gleaming compass]

IBM taught you as well?

[manic torrent]

yes - I have not spent a HUGE amount on watercooling, but probably more than some peoples whole build.

[lethal jay]

I mean, my major issue is I would have to buy double the amount of tubing the build needs because I need practice pieces, and Im gonna fuck it up somewhere along the line

[manic torrent]

I mean... all of them 🙂 microsoft, IBM, Oracle, Adobe, etc etc etc the list goes on 🙂 - loyalty goes as far as the benefits go in terms of any discounts/advantages

[manic torrent]

yes. the tubing is not hugely expensive, and that's just how it goes. It's fun

[gleaming compass]

at least Novell didn't make your list :P

[manic torrent]

They would have if they were relevant 😛

[lethal jay]

probably gonna end up doing it myself at some point. I mean, cpu block, gpu block, pump/reservoir are the pricier parts. Maybe like 300-400 for some entry level stuff?

[full fossil]

what are you guys running that you need something like that

[lethal jay]

Don't know if I would go through the effort of using a pcie riser to mount my gpu verticly

[gleaming compass]

If people have stop using IPX, why is Cisco still able to sell their routers? :P

[manic torrent]

bykski/barrow are affordable and good options. but yeah that's about your minimum cost.

[lethal jay]

Hard to justify that on a 3060 and Ryzen 3700x

[manic torrent]

Nobody "needs" it. I started doing it because I had multiple AIO failures, kept doing it because I wanted less noise, and redid it all again because I was going for a e s t h e t i c

[lethal jay]

Yeah its all for looks

[full fossil]

understood

[lethal jay]

if anything a good aircooler might outperform a water loop

[manic torrent]

I was on a 3070/3700x, and I'm now on a 5700x/3080ti, so it's not exactly super top end stuff

[tidal dawn]

Lol my computer is an atrocity of components that I have collected over time and pretty much nothing matches style wise

I have the ANTI ASTHETIC setup

[gleaming compass]

Those all sounds like good reasons to do it. It drives me crazy when people tell me how much faster they are going to make their comptuer because they are doing water cooling.

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-hasbik-cute-coke-coca-cola-gif-21722224

instead of water why dont you use ice cold coca cola

[manic torrent]

but it has 9 120mm fans and it creates a FRACTION of the noise of air cooling at low/medium loads, and it's still less noise at full load.

[lethal jay]

Honestly, kinda want to do one of those mineral oil pc's and turn into a mini aquarium

but no way in hell I can get the temps to be stable or low enough

[gleaming compass]

original coke, new coke or classic coke?

[lilac bear]

do not put fish in mineral oil
it's not water

[tidal dawn]

I want one of those wacky desk PCs but unless I feel like building it myself they're all like a billion dollars

[full fossil]

McDonalds coke

[lethal jay]

Well, more meant the idea of one, the case being filled with liquid of some sort

[gleaming compass]

that isn't coke, it is only branded coke

[manic torrent]

I recently picked up 3600cl14 ram and my PC is much snappier and my .1% lows are much higher.

[lethal jay]

but the heat is also a massive issue

Fish are picky about temps

[full fossil]

I actually prfer the new coke with high fructose corn syrup

i like mexican coke sometimes for the novelty

[lethal jay]

Honestly you need to try powdered coke, much better option.

[full fossil]

but overall i actually like the flavor of the new one

[manic torrent]

Did someone say Fish PC?

[full fossil]

it smells funny and makes my heart race

[gleaming compass]

Royal Crown taste more like what Coke used to be

[manic torrent]

god. As an australian, HFCS is absolutely fucking awful.

[full fossil]

nah you get used to it

[manic torrent]

... yeah that's my point

[tepid jasper]

i hate the feeling after you drink coke

[full fossil]

ive been drinking coke since i was like 13, its the only soda i like and i love it

[tepid jasper]

can almost feel the teeth rot

[tidal dawn]

As an American, I can't identify what HFCS tastes like, probably because it's in everything 😀

[manic torrent]

"getting used to" a product that exists purely because of corn subsidies.

[tepid jasper]

ong tho

[full fossil]

euphoria? oh the teeth thing ya its bad

[full fossil]

lmao... it tastes better

[manic torrent]

it tastes like emptiness.

[full fossil]

buy a mexican coke that uses cane sugar, and all you will taste is the cane sugar like its out of a jar, its trash and nostalgia

[manic torrent]

it absolutely doesn't - I mean you can prefer it and that's fine, but by all objective metrics it is worse.

[gleaming compass]

the feeling of your nerves not being sure if they are being stimulated or just under a chemical attack?

[lethal jay]

I have a problem with energy drinks (monster/flavoured red bull), and any tropical/fruit flavoured soda. Not a massive fan of cola, prefer like Lilt or lemon flavoured drinks tbh

[full fossil]

what are these metrics

[tepid jasper]

xd

[manic torrent]

science

[full fossil]

show it to me

[manic torrent]

HFCS is what you get when you say "what if we made a bunch of corn because the US government said we should and gave us money and now we need sugar type stuff"

[lethal jay]

I can find quite a few blind taste tests that show most people prefer hfcs. But its not 100%, taste is subjective

[tidal dawn]

I have finished downloading starfield and intel still hasnt released their "game ready" driver. Time to see what a shit-show this will be lmao

[full fossil]

what a weird take

i forgot cane sugar falls from the sky

[gleaming compass]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jisBG3egS8o

[full fossil]

also like corn syrup has been used by everyone for 50 years

they were able to make it more concentrated so you taste less of it and more of what its enhancing

[lilac bear]

corn was only invented 3 years ago by James Cornison wdym

[full fossil]

its a modern marvel, a regular mircale

[lilac bear]

he was bored during covid and decided to invent corn

[full fossil]

BUT IT COMES FrOM A VEGETABLE

[manic torrent]

everyone in the US and that seems to be going REALLY well for you

[full fossil]

but it comes from a vegetable so its bad!

[full fossil]

its going great? What do you mean?

[lethal jay]

Honestly I prefer using something that is "real" sugar, its probably just as unhealthy, but something about the processing of hfcs makes me think its worse for me. But tbh thats probably people telling me HFCS is bad to see on a label/ingerdients list

[full fossil]

its all sugar at the end of the day

[lethal jay]

Honestly, its probably the portion sizes thats the issue more than anything

the sugar itself wouldn't matter if you don't eat too much

[manic torrent]

that certainly doesn't help

but HFCS, as I said, ONLY exists because of corn subsidies.

[full fossil]

oh no we can afford to over eat , and people choose to overeat junk food, please help us !

[gleaming compass]

it is an agriculture policy failure and almost as much a dietary health disaster as the Ancel Keys' seven country study :P

[full fossil]

help us, we are living good, please send help

[lethal jay]

Although, Americans enjoy peanut butter so I don't pretend to understand their diet habits

[lethal jay]

Over eating is not living good

[past egret]

HFCS is literally killing americans lol

[manic torrent]

actually the problem is in many ways the opposite. It costs MORE to eat more balanced and fresher foods.

[full fossil]

When your countries number 1 problem is that you have an abundance of the most essential resource, you are doing great

[full fossil]

not even close to true

[manic torrent]

u wot?

[lethal jay]

Doesn't make it not a problem. Its still a problem

[manic torrent]

do you buy food? ever?

This is not controversial - this is well established fact.

[gleaming compass]

bcecause we subsidize the crap at the demand of lobbies that want longer shelf life and don't care about public health

[full fossil]

Its not a problem at all lmao , its an individual problem that 40% of the country doesnt have

[lethal jay]

Weirdly, in Ireland they aren't entirely wrong. Sugar tax made sweets/sugary drinks way more expensive

[full fossil]

no its not its propaganda from lazy people and dumb people buy it up

give me an example and ill prove you wrong in 5 seconds

[manic torrent]

ahhhh, I see you are a man of great ignorance

[full fossil]

i can feed myself a healthy balanced diet for 15$ a week

[lilac bear]

in the overweight and heart issues sense
or is it genuinely bad to consume

[full fossil]

thats 1 meal at mcdonalds

[manic torrent]

congratulations

[gleaming compass]

I don't think calling someone lazy/dumb just because they live in a food desert is constructive

[full fossil]

whats wrong with your brain?

[manic torrent]

every person in america has the same opportunities that you do, and the same amount of time, and availability of shops

[full fossil]

you said its more expensive to eat healthy, that is so false its not even funny lol

rice, beans, broccoli, peppers, etc are all dirt cheap here, people are just too lazy to cook

[lethal jay]

The only thing I've seen here thats wrong is you thinking America doesn't have an obesity problem.

[lilac bear]

everyone has the same amount of money as the rest of us, stop bitching about "oh but I can't make ends meet this week"

[manic torrent]

the ol 'personal responsibility' LOL

[full fossil]

ya thats how diets work

you arent providing any counter evidence

[manic torrent]

diets don't actually work

if you're talking about losing weight

[full fossil]

you are a parrot

youre not even thinking

[manic torrent]

yeah parroting ... science

[full fossil]

poor soul lol

[lethal jay]

Yeah, I never understand people who complain how expensive food is, but also refuse to cook and buy ready-meals from the expensive grocery store. But this is from ireland, and even then there are cases of people being unable to afford food

[manic torrent]

you'll find that I know more than you (tm)

[full fossil]

hahahhaha

[gleaming compass]

congratulations on living someplace that isn't a food desert but what is easily available to you isn't easily available everyplace, even in the middle of urban areas

[full fossil]

more parroting

[tidal dawn]

Lol, starfield has to "unpack" 120GB of data even though it was pre-loaded

[manic torrent]

.. and having transport and blah blah blah

[full fossil]

you live somewhere you dont have access to rice , beans, peppers, broccoli etc?

id love to know where

[lethal jay]

Huh, I always thought they did solve it in the short term. Like, if you can control what you eat while mainting a semi-active lifestyle you can decrease weight. Obv the reason people gain the weight in the first place is a combination of factors

[lethal jay]

Nah I just don't like rice. But im also not stuck for food either, I get to choose food I like its very fun.

[full fossil]

weight loss is just calories in vs out , and therefore you want to eat only nutritious foods and not drink your calories

[manic torrent]

in the longer term, 95+ % of diets result in the person INCREASING weight.

[full fossil]

its one of 10,000 examples i can provide of cheap healthy food, its just the cheapest one ive used

[gleaming compass]

54 million americans live in food deserts in which their sources of foods are the items which have long shelf life instead of what is healthy

[manic torrent]

oh boy you couldn't be wrongerer

[lethal jay]

Is that an issue with the idea of a diet itself, or people not being able to maintain the diet?

[full fossil]

who? and where

[manic torrent]

it doesn't matter - if basically nobody can do it, EVERYTHING is wrong with the entire concept.

[full fossil]

im blocking you, you are too dumb to talk to im sorry

[past egret]

lolz

[lethal jay]

Yeah its super cheap, there are other options (spuds) but luckily im not stuck for money for food. most of the time

[lethal jay]

I know tinned beans are a good option too

[manic torrent]

that's a lot of words for "I don't understand public health or homeostasis"

[full fossil]

its common ass sense

parrots and their inability to think

[manic torrent]

and yet, again, science disagrees

hey google, what is homeostasis

hey google can you be fat and have anorexia

[manic torrent]

We all know that the human body is a very simple system.

[lethal jay]

Tbf, hardware Bob isn't completely wrong either. There is a physcologial aspect to losing weight that a diet cannot solve. If you don't fix the issue that caused the weight gain in the first place, there is no use in losing it short term. The reasons why people gain weight is varied and not always as simple as choosing to over eat

[manic torrent]

I'm not even beginning to talk about psychology.

[full fossil]

sorry im not entertaining this lol

[lethal jay]

I mean, its not wrong tho.

[full fossil]

like i said

[manic torrent]

exactly, for your world view to remain you HAVE to believe that it's personal choice because otherwise you're a huge asshole!

[lethal jay]

Or do you disagree that losing weight - long term and maintain said lower weight, is not always as simple as choosing to diet

[manic torrent]

so this isn't a discussion on how metabolism works, it's a fundamental attack on your value as a person, so you CANNOT accept it.

[full fossil]

weight loss is calories in vs calories out, some weird rare medical conditions do not excuse the norm/general. When people speak in concepts they speak in general

its common sense and common knowledge since the beginning of time

how can you gain mass you dont intake

[manic torrent]

calories in/calories out is bad science, and we have known this for literally decades (and yet CONTINUE to teach it)

[full fossil]

you cant

[manic torrent]

treating the human biome like a simple machine is folly.

[full fossil]

according to the genius, it doesnt matter what you eat and healthy food is more expensive then processed lmao. Someone clear lives online and not in reality so theres no point in the conversation

[spice pine]

i mean cal in / cal out is part of it but it also matters what kind of diet you have, what exercise you’re doing, etc

[full fossil]

if you stop eating what happens

[manic torrent]

what matters, it turns out is everything

[full fossil]

you lose weight and die

[lethal jay]

Yes, the system of how your body reduces its weight is by taking in less than what you use, but maintaining that balance in the long term is more complex than just choosing to.

[full fossil]

i dont see any fat etheopian children

look at all the fat starving african children

oh none of them are fat, got it

[spice pine]

not worth engaging, it’s rage bait

[full fossil]

its not its common sense

im blown away that people think they can take in less calories then they burn and gain weight

[manic torrent]

step 1: ignore all science. step 2: it's obvious!

[full fossil]

like im being trolled

[lethal jay]

No one is saying that

[manic torrent]

nobody said that.

[lethal jay]

No one, at any point, said that

[full fossil]

aight it was fun for awhile but im done bothering with fools lol

[lethal jay]

all we said is that weight loss is more complex than just eating less

[full fossil]

have a good night

[manic torrent]

once again "what is homeostasis"

[spice pine]

walks in, loses an argument, “i won,” leaves

[full fossil]

lmao sure

[strange skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-bye-adios-bye-goodbye-leave-gif-11868139

[full fossil]

Ltt is Haram

[gleaming compass]

sometime google "heart failure in ethiopian children"
the body breaks down muscle when it is starving before it breaks down fat

[full fossil]

people love excuses more than reality

[manic torrent]

https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/everything-you-know-about-obesity-is-wrong/

[full fossil]

mucle weighs more than fat, huge weight loss

[spice pine]

dude just say you hate fat people and move on

[full fossil]

Everything you know about smoking is wrong

[manic torrent]

(please note - article includes citations)

[full fossil]

LMAO

Smoking doesn't cause lung cancer

[lethal jay]

Forgot to add the part where they accuse us of saying something we didn't say, and then ignores when we point out we didn't say it

[full fossil]

literally what was said

[spice pine]

i consider that part of “losing an argument”

[lethal jay]

[full fossil]

yall just trolls that love excuses

[manic torrent]

"what is a shit take" for $500

[full fossil]

Everything you know about lsd is wrong.

if i eat these twinkies its not my fault im not losing wreight!

[tidal dawn]

bro i leave for 5 minutes and we're arguing about obesity

[full fossil]

Lsd isn't addictive

[lethal jay]

You still didn't point out when we said

[manic torrent]

... it isn't though?

[full fossil]

what is your arguement?

lay it out simply

[spice pine]

they’ve evolved from FirstName mcBunchOfNumbers at least

[strange skiff]

It will make you meet whatever god you believe in though

[full fossil]

My statement is that weight loss is calories in vs calories out, blocked man said it has nothing to do with it and is bad science, trust the science

Everything you know about my dad is wrong

so if taking less calories in than you burn doesnt lose weight prove it or shutup lol

My dad does indeed beat my mom

[spice pine]

nobody said it “had nothing to do with it,” just that “it isn’t everything, and it’s nowhere near as simple as just that”

[full fossil]

its common sense to the degree its infuriating

[strange skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/himym-finale-gif-19863906

[full fossil]

but it is as simple as that

if you stop eating, you wither away and die

you dont gain 10 lbs

[manic torrent]

YOU are as simple as that.

but the human biome is not

[full fossil]

🤢🫡🥰🥰🐴😭 💯 ❌🐴⭐😍💰✅✅😡😴📉

[warm dust]

I stopped eating for about a month and I'm just starting to eat again and it's basically impossible to eat more than 3 or 4 bites worth of something

[full fossil]

hahahahhaa

[spice pine]

but taking in 500 calories of twinkies vs 500 calories of healthier foods causes a different reaction, and creates different levels of fats. You see where i’m going with this?

[lethal jay]

The process of how the body burns calories is calories burnt vs taken in.
Losing a large amount of weight over a long time, and changing lifestyle and habits to better control your weight is not just "eat less"
the process of a human being losing weight is not the same as the mechanics of how a biological body loses weight. 1 is physics, 1 is a study of human behaviour

[full fossil]

I take in 500 calories of br-

[full fossil]

yes which is also why i said you should take in those calories as nutrient dense as possible

BUT im not talking about fat im talking about weight

Calories in vs calories out is still how you lose WEIGHT its simple energy transfer

[manic torrent]

even the physics is horrifically complicated. It's not a pile of "calories" and the processing isn't static - your body is constantly changing.

[full fossil]

I love how technology channels talk about obesity

Can we all talk about treadmills now

[lethal jay]

Yep, also calories sucks as a unit of measurment. The body doesn't just convert all kinds of "calories" equally or at the same rate/

[manic torrent]

I mean, my wife is a nutritionist, but hey, what would she know.

[full fossil]

My wife paints nails

[full fossil]

Lmao.... its energy in vs energy out

[lethal jay]

Calories is a unit of energy. Human bodies are so much more complex than a battery

[full fossil]

🤖🤖🤖🤖

you take in more energy then you burn, you gain weight

[manic torrent]

so if you stop eating and I put you in an oven for an hour a day, you'll be fine.

or if I hook you up to 110V for like 10min

[spice pine]

That’s a really elementary breakdown of how the body works down foods and stores that energy, and being reductive (like you are) is misleading.

[lethal jay]

Just hold a piece of uranium for 20mins a day, let the radiation carry energy into your body

[full fossil]

lololollol okay guys, youre right its not your fault

[gleaming compass]

how many amps?

[full fossil]

Obesity, a growing global health concern, is characterized by an excessive accumulation of body fat that poses potential risks to one's health. Rooted in a combination of genetic, behavioral, metabolic, and environmental factors, obesity increases the likelihood of various diseases, including diabetes, heart disease, and certain cancers. Prevention is multifaceted and requires a holistic approach. Encouraging regular physical activity, advocating for a balanced diet rich in whole foods and low in processed sugars and unhealthy fats, fostering a strong sense of mental well-being, and ensuring that communities are equipped with resources like parks and healthy food options are all critical. Furthermore, public awareness campaigns and education can play pivotal roles in reshaping societal norms and behaviors to prioritize health and wellness over convenience or sedentary habits.

have some hostess

Chatgpt said this

[manic torrent]

current is drawn, not provided, I would have to know his resistance 😄

[spice pine]

and the mask’s off

[full fossil]

LMAO

[gleaming compass]

he is putting up all the resistance

[full fossil]

yall too funny

[manic torrent]

in that case, he gets LOTS of power 😄

[full fossil]

Calories represent a measure of energy, specifically the energy derived from the food and beverages we consume. Every individual requires a certain number of calories daily to maintain basic bodily functions and fuel physical activity. However, when caloric intake consistently exceeds the body's energy expenditure, the excess energy is stored as fat. Over time, this consistent caloric surplus can lead to obesity. The correlation between high caloric intake and obesity is evident in diets abundant in high-calorie, low-nutrient foods, often coupled with sedentary lifestyles. While metabolism and genetics also play roles, managing caloric intake in relation to one's energy expenditure is a fundamental factor in preventing and addressing obesity.

[lethal jay]

But the process of how those calories get converted to energy, how its stored, how its used, vary wildly. Its why ingesting sugar is different to carbs. Same calories, vastly different effects on the human body.

[full fossil]

right but that doesnt change calories in or out

[gleaming compass]

we should use three phase

[full fossil]

its just word games that change nothing

[spice pine]

Oh hey, i recognize this tactic

[manic torrent]

and we all know that chatGPT is excellent at not reflecting biases or repeating incorrect/incomplete information 😄

[spice pine]

“You can’t get snakes from chicken eggs”

[full fossil]

Obesity is a complex health condition influenced by a myriad of interconnected factors. Genetics can predispose individuals to obesity, with certain genetic mutations affecting appetite and metabolism. Behavioral factors play a crucial role, where sedentary lifestyles and overconsumption of high-calorie, low-nutrient foods contribute to weight gain. Psychological aspects, such as stress, depression, or trauma, might lead some to overeat as a coping mechanism. Socioeconomic status can impact obesity rates, with those in lower income brackets often having limited access to healthy foods and safe spaces for physical activity. Medical conditions, like hypothyroidism or polycystic ovary syndrome, and certain medications can also lead to weight gain. Moreover, environmental elements, including living in "food deserts" where healthy options are scarce or cultural norms that favor larger body sizes, can promote obesity. It's essential to understand that obesity often arises from a combination of these factors, making its prevention and treatment multifaceted.

google is wrong, chat gpt is wrong!!! ITS NOT MY FAULYT!!!

[full fossil]

Hey I 2ill correlate Joe Biden into this

science!!!

[gleaming compass]

wait huh? you seem to be stuck in sarcism mode

[manic torrent]

I am australian. It's the default setting.

[spice pine]

When someone has a basic understanding of something that isn’t the entire truth, and the full truth is more complex but will change other views they have, they will reject the full truth for their “simple truth,” and fail to learn.

[lethal jay]

Hey I found a google article saying the earth is flat. Surely its true then?

[full fossil]

Atleast your mom still loves me 🥰🥰

Calories in vs calories out no need to discuss it further Ty

[manic torrent]

because learning is hard

[spice pine]

… have fun with that?

[full fossil]

Learning about the intricacies of obesity can be challenging for various reasons. First, the topic is multidimensional, encompassing genetics, behavior, psychology, sociology, medicine, and environment, making it difficult to grasp comprehensively. Second, there's often a societal stigma attached to obesity, which can cloud objective understanding with judgments or biases. For some, personal emotions or experiences related to body image and self-worth might create barriers to learning, as confronting these issues can be emotionally taxing. Additionally, the vast amount of conflicting information available, especially in popular media, can lead to confusion. Misconceptions and myths about obesity and weight loss are pervasive, requiring individuals to discern between credible sources and misinformation. Lastly, cultural, economic, and educational disparities can limit access to accurate information or resources on the topic, further hindering understanding.

[lethal jay]

This reminds me a lot of the "2 genders" debate but uh.....probably best to not get into that one. People just coming in with a very basic understanding, and being too ignorant to realise maybe their biology classes they took at 14-18 didn't cover all the complexities of the human physche

[past egret]

why isnt there a camera or photography channel

[manic torrent]

This is a classic "asking the wrong questions" issue - because (typically) nobody is writing articles saying the earth isn't flat, because why would you? So when you search for "flat earth", you get stuff confirming your bullshit.

[full fossil]

You probably have a bad take about that too using a bunch of word games to deny reality

[spice pine]

It’s the same mentality. The same thing applies to anti-evolutionists, and global warming deniers as well.

[full fossil]

Uhh

[lethal jay]

Just post here, have my derpy cat

[full fossil]

Ya! Trust people you don’t know from the last 5 years not all of human history!!

[past egret]

he looks like hes giving a sneeze

[full fossil]

You blindly trust the fresh experts so you’re a genius

[lethal jay]

In seriousness, try #creative I doubt anyone will mind

[full fossil]

[gleaming compass]

If the earth isn't flat, why did my high school math teacher tell me that learning euclidean geometry would be useful?! :P

[manic torrent]

look, there's four humors. blood, yellow bile, black bile, and phlegm. EVERYONE knows this.

[spice pine]

alright cool so you’re just a science denier. I was right to say I shouldn’t engage earlier. Disengaging now

[lethal jay]

Creative people like photos, or at least in my experience they do

[full fossil]

I will ask an ai to draw a picture of obesity

[full fossil]

Lmao ok worship your ever changing science lets read some science books from 5 years ago and see if you agree with it we will start with the dsm 5

[manic torrent]

I think what we really need to solve everything is leeches.

[zealous flare]

I just popped in to say the world isn't flat but this bread is: https://tenor.com/view/rugrats-tommy-bread-happy-passover-passover-gif-4000290

[full fossil]

I prefer reality

[manic torrent]

The fact that science changes is the ENTIRE point.

[full fossil]

I think legalizing nukes and thermobaric bombs is the only solution gere

[spice pine]

buddy, I hope you find the help you clearly need instead of expressing misguided views online

[lethal jay]

Science is a model of reality. Its not 100% accuate or right all the time. Which is why we have scientists trying to figure it out

[full fossil]

Sorry you meant to at the mirror

Thermobaric bombs are very scientific 🤓

[gleaming compass]

the current design specifications for GPS won't work with your bread :(

[full fossil]

views of 99% of the planet for all of human history are wrong and the people that believe them need help because maybe says so

[lethal jay]

I mean, people thought the earth was flat and gods created everything for thousands of years

[full fossil]

Chinese phone manufacturers don't steal my data?

ive never been to space so who knows

[lethal jay]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-bunny-gun-gif-23859392

[full fossil]

not only do they do it, but every phone does it and almost every app on it

[full fossil]

violence is excepted from yall

the cute bunny face of tyranny

[full fossil]

Luckily I haven't renounced my membership in the CCP 😎😎😎

[lethal jay]

Something we can agree on

[spice pine]

alright let’s maybe not turn the talk political lmao

[lethal jay]

Bunnies are evil man, although cute too

[full fossil]

you down with ccp? ya you know me!

[manic torrent]

I mean, you can calculate it with literally a piece of paper, a watch, and a stick.

[full fossil]

i hope you get the help you need

[full fossil]

Legalize nukes

[past egret]

i forgot who drew this

[lethal jay]

I thought you need 2 sticks

[full fossil]

nuclear energy, yes

[zealous flare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY

[spice pine]

Wym by this?

[full fossil]

WHO IS IT

[full fossil]

😡😡😡 oil or boil

[full fossil]

buddy, I hope you find the help you clearly need instead of expressing misguided views online

[gleaming compass]

yeah, but once you get to around 300BC, then Cleomedes figured out the circumference of the earth

[full fossil]

your takes disagree with all human history on almost every topic, im worried about you

[lethal jay]

oh but 99% of people still thought it was falt. The majority has to be right tho?

The majority can never be wrong about something

[gleaming compass]

uh... reality tends to be right

[full fossil]

the shape of the earth, something unobservable is a little different than the rest of the topics

[zealous flare]

No one cared about what those PEASANTS thought back then though

[full fossil]

to use it as an example is disingenuous

[spice pine]

hey, listen, I can tell you’re pretty frustrated, but there’s no sense in continuing to bug me like this, i’m not interested in talking to you anymore

[full fossil]

but of course it is, mind and word games is what yall love

[lethal jay]

Nah, the emporer had the gods whisper truths into their ears, their word was the only truth. PRAISE APOLLO

[full fossil]

you @ me with it, i copy it and send it back to you, then youre too good for the conversation and assuming how i feel. This is textbook gaslighting

i literally copy and pasted exactly what you just said to me lmao

[lethal jay]

gaslighting isn't real don't believe everything you read

[full fossil]

true

[spice pine]

i’m not the one disagreeing with science but okay

[lethal jay]

no your wrong, its real

[spice pine]

please stop bothering me

[full fossil]

hypocrites be hypocriting all over the place

[lethal jay]

nuh uh

[full fossil]

yuh huh! 😠

[manic torrent]

I mean, if you take the stick with you, you only need one, but yeah

[lethal jay]

Oh lol

[gleaming compass]

Damn it, I keep forgetting to watch that movie

[manic torrent]

unobservable ? KEK

[full fossil]

I saw a documentary that said people in america cant even get food, and calories in vs calories out was a bad science lie! It was made by scientists!!

[manic torrent]

I mean, I read actual scientific papers, but go off.

[full fossil]

in fact a 5$ 30lb bag of rice was more expensive than a 7$ one meal only meal from mcdonalds!!!

[spice pine]

Dudes clearly got some issues he’s trying to work through here

[lethal jay]

They also made a doc about how covid wasn't real. "scientists" aren't infallible. But yeah don't trust a documentary blindly.

[manic torrent]

The emperor has the finest clothes!

[full fossil]

sooo your arguement 5 min ago was all of human history is wrong because the science changed, trust the science, now its science is wrong

5 dollar bag of rice that is 30lbs is way more value than a mcdonalds meal, spend more get more lol

what is this guy on

[manic torrent]

it's ALMOST like nuance and understanding and thought is necessary, and that things being obvious and black and white is hard

[full fossil]

right thats the point i can eat healthy for $20 a week, the statement was made that junk food is cheaper than healthy, i argued and we ended here

[spice pine]

something I don’t want, that’s for sure

[lethal jay]

I never said science cant be wrong, but it can also be right. Go with whatever you think its the most well explained and think is correct. But that requires having read the science and understanding the topic.

[manic torrent]

"my experience is different to that, therefore that cannot be the case" - A+ reasoning

[full fossil]

i didnt know you were a science expert that decided what ones are right and what ones are wrong my bad

[manic torrent]

why would you read and understand when you can be loudly wrong

[full fossil]

eating healthy is cheaper than eating out as long as you dont buy organic or junk food at the grocery store. per serving buying ingredients is ALWAYS cheaper than eating out and if you argue otherwise your mommy shops for you

[spice pine]

I don’t feel like this is a healthy conversation to keep engaging with lmao

[full fossil]

you seem to not be understanding that i agree with you

[lethal jay]

I don't need to be science expert to be able to choose which side makes more sense to me

[full fossil]

moew

[full fossil]

they were saying junk food is cheaper than healthy food in america

[manic torrent]

and as long as you can get it at your shop and can get to your shop and as long as you can store it and use it and as long as .....

[full fossil]

whoever is disagreeing with us probably only orders doordash

and that burning more calories then you take in will not lose weight

both which are ludicrous takes

[manic torrent]

again, literally nobody said that

[full fossil]

you literally said that you complete tool its all up there for anyone to see, its where the whole argumeent began

[manic torrent]

.... you changed what you said.

[full fossil]

ya i didnt realize i didnt have the not

as far as i know, chicken breast potatoes and mixed veggies is cheaper than fast food, ALWAYS

[lethal jay]

please show us where

[gleaming compass]

Sorry to have to correct you but for a complete tool you need to go to LTT store:
https://www.lttstore.com/products/screwdriver

[manic torrent]

The problem with this is "as far I know" - and look, for many instances, you're not wrong. However, for a lot of people, in a lot of circumstances, it doesn't work like that.

[full fossil]

Does ltt store have a book on obesity

[lethal jay]

is this an actuall issue in america? The idea of not being able to get to a shop reasonably seems insane. I can qutie easily get to and from like 7 or 8 supermarkets despite living in the countryside without a car.

[gleaming compass]

I don't know

[full fossil]

this brought the lunatics out

[spice pine]

rural liver here, the nearest shop with produce is a 30m drive away.

[full fossil]

it was their oppurtunity to display they care nothing about reality

[full fossil]

I wanna know which treadmill is best bang for buck but not to expensive because I will never use it

[gleaming compass]

awww... you don't need to admit to being a lunatic :(

[lethal jay]

Ok.....I didn't realise I had to explain english. but saying that you "couldn't be more wrong" does not mean he saying the opposite is true......

[full fossil]

LMAOOOOOO

[gleaming compass]

I went with a rowing machine for $200

[full fossil]

bunch of clowns lmao

[spice pine]

Seems like he keeps shifting the goalposts a lot

[lethal jay]

Enemy of my enemy is not my friend and all

[manic torrent]

professional groundskeeper

[lethal jay]

similar principle

[full fossil]

You're mom

clearly he isnt disagreeing with me

😡😡😡😡

[lethal jay]

thr road. Its "FREE"

[full fossil]

🤖🤖🤖🤖

[full fossil]

But I have to touch grass 👎👎👎 Haram

well fortunately reality is real regardless of how you feel about it or the word games you can come up with

[lethal jay]

Ong, do you not understand that him disagreeing, does not mean he agrees with the opposite

[manic torrent]

you just really like reading your own comments. You just vomit out whatever is in your head. are you 12?

[lethal jay]

thats how fucking words work

[full fossil]

how do people type stuff like this unironically

[full fossil]

🐴🐴😈😈

[lethal jay]

Because its how fucking english works

[spice pine]

rage bait at its… i’d say finest but that feels wrong

[gleaming compass]

Have you tried Wordle? You might like it

[lethal jay]

I cannot, my brain is suffering. Im going to a chat that has sane people who understand how language works

[full fossil]

1+1 = 2

YOU ARE SO WRONG

No im right

We all disagree with you

you said 1+1 = 2

No we didnt where

Here is a screenshot

He isnt saying the oppposite!!

[full fossil]

Ily ❤️❤️❤️❤️

huge brains

[manic torrent]

Your statement - "Weight loss is just calories in / calories out" - My statement in juxtaposition - "Weight loss is NOT just calories in / calories out"

[full fossil]

My wife says 1+1 = 4 so you're wrong

[manic torrent]

1+1=3 for high enough values of 1.

[gleaming compass]

https://www.nytimes.com/games/wordle/index.html

[full fossil]

but it is, you take in less energy then you put out and your mass decreases, for a science guy you sure struggle with the basics

[full fossil]

You're forgor the carry 1

[manic torrent]

... if your body was a simple machine. Which it is not.

[lethal jay]

CAN YOU FUCKING READ??????? He said its not just that....he never said that didn't have a part to play

[full fossil]

lmao yall got your red noses on

honk honk

[manic torrent]

That's it. Get the human gavage hose.

[spice pine]

he doesn’t need to read to keep arguing his side

[full fossil]

anyway im going to play starfield, enjoy seething and coping

[full fossil]

I can are the read? Yes but sre the to butt can the word but me wanna the can to the Roblox

[manic torrent]

shhhh the grown ups are talking

[lethal jay]

Didn't think you would enjoy a game that allows a person to choose pronouns. Doesn't really seem your style

[full fossil]

Ok well if you are the play the Roblox? The Minecraft can to the better but then????

[supple pawn]

To lose weight, one must consume much bread. The spongy nature of bread allows it to absorb fat from your body!

[full fossil]

I could care less about that

[lethal jay]

Ah, finnaly a sensible take

[full fossil]

but i know thats not what your scientists tells you

and your polarized parroting

[lethal jay]

well, the third sensible one after bunnies

[manic torrent]

in starfield you can be FAT!

also in starfield, eating has NO RELATION AT ALL to your weight!!??!?!?!

[supple pawn]

Also, bacon is very heart heathy; The grease lubricates your blood vessels, allowing your blood to move with mess resistance.

[full fossil]

its a video game, so its outside of reality, just like your train of thought

[lethal jay]

Nah I was basing it off your previous comment. Seemed like a fair assesment of your character

[full fossil]

Science? I know the science. My teacher teaches me the rocket but then can rocket? To the ro can are to? Yes but Russia read the too

[spice pine]

instructions not clear. ate 600 calories worth of Starfield discs and now i’m losing weight faster?

[full fossil]

What the fuck are we arguing about

[manic torrent]

also in starfield, weight changes constantly. Something something mass 🙂

[full fossil]

lmao first of all, you have no idea what i believe about anything other than calories in vs calories out, for such a smart thinker you sure failed. Second of all, my opinions based on what i believe, how i was raised, my environment etc have f all to do with my character

you conflate comformity to being a good person, I dont

[full fossil]

They are the argue can to bread. Bread can Argentina. But cat load the can to we are !!!!

[full fossil]

I just had a stroke 👍

[supple pawn]

Weigh loss as the result of eating nothing but celery.

[lethal jay]

Comment I was refering to

[spice pine]

I wouldn’t know the argument at this point, i’ve been seeing “blocked message”s for a while now

[full fossil]

right

[full fossil]

🐴🐴🐴

and because of that you think what about what i think?

[lethal jay]

yep

[manic torrent]

What is "parroting", exactly, here.

[spice pine]

imagine seething about lttcord’s takes on weight

[lethal jay]

He isn't wrong here, I am doing this

[full fossil]

spamming the constant terminal online opinions of the past 5 years

[full fossil]

But they've been on an 2 hour rant about obesity

[manic torrent]

oh honey. No. You are not a free thinker.

[full fossil]

yes i am and stop being an idiot

Eating bad food makes you fat, eating good food + exercise make not fat, what's the issue

[lethal jay]

Average bread take

[full fossil]

you have no idea about what i think or how i think

[manic torrent]

stellar defense

[spice pine]

but you don’t. understand. it’s as simple as calories in calories out. there is nothing more complex about weight than this concept alone.

[full fossil]

They are seeing who agreed with who and if you don't agree with the other person completely youa re bad person and 1984

[lethal jay]

No but I can assume

[full fossil]

thats what idiots do, parrot and assume

[manic torrent]

ah, so what you say has no relation to what you think? Your brain works differently?

[lethal jay]

Nah I just don't assume things about people I like and/or respect

[full fossil]

This is literally 1984

[manic torrent]

whereas ALL of your takes are entirely original and only your own ?

[full fossil]

i dont answer disingenous questions from parrots, the question makes no sense and is a trap but you know that

[full fossil]

oh so i must have ONLY my OWN thoughts to be a free thinker? more bullshit see the last reply

Guys the answers lie in ChatGPT

[manic torrent]

it's not really a question - it's pointing out that your answer makes no sense.

[full fossil]

I think both of you should drink some milk and go to bed, this is a tech server

[lethal jay]

I wish, at least then I would get shot for how I think. Make life easier

[full fossil]

just because you cant think doesnt mean i cant coward

[manic torrent]

again - what is "parroting" then, and how does it differ from what you do?

[full fossil]

Yo wanna go fight in Ukraine 🔥🔥🔥

[full fossil]

Parrotting is blindly conforming and trusting and repeating the terminally online takes of the last 5 years. What I do is think about it and form my own opinions

[manic torrent]

I doubt you've read 1984

[full fossil]

you sure ask a lot of dumb question for someone that has answered literally 0 from the beggining

[full fossil]

I watched the movie because I heard there were bobs

Everyone in this argument is this in my head

its almost like you have nothing of value to say besides parroting

[lethal jay]

Not really tbh, I would rather die for something I believe in. Not that I don't support Ukraine, but I don't believe in fighting pointless wars

[lethal jay]

Parroting

[full fossil]

signs of a real free thinker

[lethal jay]

does that count as saying something valuable?

[manic torrent]

aka... "things I don't agree with", basically.

[full fossil]

If i parrot myself, who is the parrot

I would die for milfs, that's about it

[full fossil]

I was talking about for Russia. You get shot for believing something else 🔥🔥🔥

[full fossil]

oh honey, youre still doing it

[lethal jay]

Who parrots the parrots?

[full fossil]

the three parroteers

[manic torrent]

dead parrots

issa norwegian blue.

[lethal jay]

What about Schrodinger's Parrots?

[full fossil]

This is what McDonald's can do, still think obesity is a joke?

[lethal jay]

Supersize me moment

[manic torrent]

I'm guessing you don't like this "woke" nonsense.

[opal thunder]

So I have no context but looking at what I’ve seen so far are you guys gatekeeping what is considered thinking? 💀

Everyone has opinions no matter how dumb they are

[lethal jay]

Yes

[spice pine]

yes

[full fossil]

youve asked me 30 absolutely moronic questions

I have given you real answers and asked you real questions, youve answered none

still it continues, get a brain

[lethal jay]

oh wait sorry you weren't talking to me

[full fossil]

Wallahi this chat is giving me leukemia

[opal thunder]

Fr? I was only joking.

[full fossil]

if you have a brain just use it

[spice pine]

nah i was too lmao this topic is pointless and just serves to make everyone involved mad

[opal thunder]

👍🍞

[silent lichen]

👍 🥖

[opal thunder]

Twitter moment

[lethal jay]

How dare you assume I have a brain

[full fossil]

[full fossil]

yup its the symptom of terminally and eternally online

everything is polarized and reality is denied

[lethal jay]

Reality? Ew

[full fossil]

it do be ew

[lethal jay]

I prefer democracy

[full fossil]

i prefer tamriel

[manic torrent]

and you are the arbiter of reality 😄

[supple pawn]

What the fuck are you all on about?

[lethal jay]

Bread

[opal thunder]

Bread

[full fossil]

no the people you blindly parrot are

[lethal jay]

Parrot

[full fossil]

why cant i be a dark elf in starfield

[lethal jay]

Honestly I still don't know what being a parrot means, but it sounds fun

[silent lichen]

bread, i was bread once, they locked me in a room , a bready room, a bready room with rats , rats make me crazy

[spice pine]

i’d not get involved if i were you

[manic torrent]

blindly parrot? keking kekistani kekfields.

[opal thunder]

Mod the game when that comes out

[full fossil]

Joker moment

[full fossil]

i dont speak terminally online

[full fossil]

I hope this comes, ill be so happy

look at this guy

[lethal jay]

Bread? I was bread once, they locked me in an oven. A bread oven. A bread oven with bread. Bread makes me bread.

[full fossil]

now look at him after 5 years of burning more calories then he took in

incredible

[lilac bear]

"take this pill and this can be you"

[full fossil]

pill please

[lilac bear]

(it's a tapeworm egg)

[full fossil]

oh nvm

[spice pine]

omg i love eggs 😍🥰

[median idol]

Akeed akeed, brother

[supple pawn]

But you are not me, so therefore you're suggesting I do get involved?

[lethal jay]

So this muffin is 800 cal. If I just eat 1 muffin a day I'll lose weight? YES, you might just die in the meantime. Who knew losing weight was more than just eating less calories

[warm dust]

Don't need it if you already got them

[full fossil]

please reread this and see how dumb it is

[lethal jay]

Oh I typed it becasue its dumb

Honestly if you expected any more from me, thats on you

[full fossil]

you literally just said, will you lose weight yes? then went on to say you wont lose weight

Me eat burger me fat

[spice pine]

reductionism

[warm dust]

I legitimately only drank water and a lot of orange juice for a month

[lethal jay]

Ah I may be dead but at least I weigh less

[full fossil]

weight loss is calories in vs calories out, being healthy can be more than that, but that is completely simple and easy to understand

[warm dust]

I didn't really lose any weight though

[lilac bear]

can you get overweight from a pure diet of vegetables

[full fossil]

i didnt think i need to clarify that

[supple pawn]

You can easily lose weight by using a hack saw. Its a trick doctors dont want you to know about.

[full fossil]

yes

[warm dust]

...yes

[full fossil]

Yeah vegetables are calories

You need to exercise

[lilac bear]

[warm dust]

Wtf do you think a potato is

[full fossil]

There's no such thing as good or bad calories

a starch

[warm dust]

Yes there is

[full fossil]

That's news to me

[full fossil]

true. but its best to get your calories from the nutrients you need only

[supple pawn]

A tuberous root?

[lethal jay]

Calories aren't real. I believe in mAh supremecy

[full fossil]

A calorie is just a unit of measurement is it not

[full fossil]

they dont understand basics dont bother

[warm dust]

Why do you think there is no such thing as bad calories?

[full fossil]

because he can think

[full fossil]

Because it's just a unit of measurement of energy or something

[supple pawn]

1 calorie is the amount of energy required to raise 1cc of water by 2 degree C?

[lilac bear]

I knew it

[supple pawn]

Although the calories given in food ate actually kilocalories, not calories.

[warm dust]

So you're saying a calorie isnt food or bad it's the context that is good or bad

[full fossil]

Well yeah because there's other shit in "bad" food that contributes to weight gain like cholesterol

Not the calories themselves

But I have limited nutrition knowledge

no lol

again your talking about weight vs health and conflating the two lol

Well yeah fair

if you take in less calories then you burn, you will lose mass in some way

You got me on that

it doesnt mean you will be healthy

[lethal jay]

The energy required to heat 1kg of water by 1 kelvin at 1atm (the 1atm doesn't really matter for most people, and 1k is same as 1c, I think, but I just retyped what was generally agreed about online)

[full fossil]

None of this really matters to me in the slightest because I have a high metabolism so I remain stick thin by doing nothing

but you will lose weight, its simple, and i cant beleive i had a 30 min arguement about it lol

[warm dust]

I was going to say it's fine eating a burger or whatever but the second I eat a 8g pellet of uranium 238 and ohh nooooo those are bad calories

[full fossil]

boss mode, i have to fast, i only eat breakfast and dinner

[warm dust]

Why tf do doctors tell me what I can and cannot eat

[full fossil]

This sounds like a challenge

[supple pawn]

Did you know one kilocalorie per hour is equal to 0.00156 horsepower?

[full fossil]

how many horse power is a case of coca cola

[warm dust]

I had a few lead pellets in my hand one day and told my friend to eat it and he swallowed it before he even knew if there was anything in my hand

[lethal jay]

If only we could digest uranium, never need to eat food again

[manic torrent]

I climbed up a mountain and I got fat from all the potential energy

[warm dust]

So you burn 7 or 8 calories per hour if you output one horsepower?

[warm dust]

Exactlyyy

[past egret]

how are you all still going on with this

[warm dust]

Underrated

[lethal jay]

idk, im watching new one piece live action and meming

its good entertainment

[pliant karma]

Lol

[supple pawn]

If you drink all 24 in an hour, just over 5.5

[full fossil]

im going to do it

i can finally be a lawn mower

[lethal jay]

I feel like lawn mower are less tbh

[supple pawn]

How many hp is a goat?

[warm dust]

LMFAOOO

[full fossil]

idk i have a 32 hp john deere

[supple pawn]

Thats one ugly mfer

[lethal jay]

heh? mine is like....2hp

[full fossil]

mines a rider

[warm dust]

That's pretty powerful

[full fossil]

it cuts baby

[lethal jay]

Nah, too expensive, too big, cannot get edges and get around akward things in a garden

[warm dust]

All my lawnmower engines never end up in any lawnmowers :/

[full fossil]

i dont have a garden but i do have a big lawn

[lethal jay]

isn't that the same thing?

[full fossil]

no, why do you do this to me

Garden has flowers and vegetables mate

[lethal jay]

Oh

[full fossil]

yall argue about anything

[lethal jay]

nah garden just means a lawn here

[full fossil]

He's in Ireland

so some made up place

They have their own jargon for shit

[lethal jay]

Yeah just different words for the same thing

[lethal jay]

If anything America is the one with the weird names for things

I trust the english on what things should be called in english

[full fossil]

ya we had to invent our own everything because the world did everything stupid and wrong

[manic torrent]

oh god no.

[supple pawn]

I want a mower powered by a small block Chevrolet v8.

[lethal jay]

So thats why americans use the imperial system? Cuase the metric is just supid and wrong

[full fossil]

Imperial system is stupid

[lethal jay]

its boutta go downhill from here

[full fossil]

it exists im sure, we LS swap everything around here

[full fossil]

innit

lass

[supple pawn]

Even a pencil sharpener? Or a garage door opener?

[full fossil]

Trolley instead of cart is kinda insane though

[lethal jay]

tbf english people use mph for cars which is dumb too

[warm dust]

@full fossil do you own a house

[supple pawn]

Why do english people call elevators lifts?

[full fossil]

why not

And don't you guys say jumper instead of coat/jacket?

[warm dust]

Why do people live

[full fossil]

That one is odd

[lethal jay]

Call em both tbh, either works

[supple pawn]

And what in the hell is an oodie?

[full fossil]

Lift is fine, that one makes sense

[full fossil]

yes, i skipped coffee and was able to buy one

[warm dust]

[full fossil]

I'm American and don't even use American English

[lilac bear]

it lifts, does it not?

[warm dust]

@full fossil get a clover lawn

[full fossil]

Yeah like that one actually makes sense

[full fossil]

my hoa wont allow it

[full fossil]

yeah, thing lifts people

[lethal jay]

those are 2 different items of clothing. sometimes 3 depending on where you live

[supple pawn]

What is American english? Every region has its own version of english

[full fossil]

Learn something every day

[warm dust]

DM me your neighborhood I'll deal with it

[median idol]

American spelling I would imagine

[full fossil]

haha no ty

[full fossil]

its dtupid spelling

[supple pawn]

Question for the English and Americans here. What is a biscuit?

[full fossil]

Fr. My ex is from Wisconsin where they call sodas "pop" and water fountains "bubblers"

Clinical insanity

[warm dust]

This looks so much better than grass

[full fossil]

its bread you top with liquid bread

[lilac bear]

theres american then like southern united states

[warm dust]

I would bomb every HOA if I could

[full fossil]

I should specified that I am American and this is our biscuit

[manic torrent]

scone.

[full fossil]

That is a biscuit to us

[full fossil]

beautiful really, you should put a stone circle in the middle with a picnic table

[lethal jay]

Yeah, jumper is like fabric. What some people call a hoodie. Jacket for a lot of people is like a rain coat. (light plastic just to keep you dry) and a coat is like a rain coat but with padding. But there are also a bunch of diffrences, like a puffer jacket or a parka. Both are jackest, but both are different

[supple pawn]

Pop is correct, but what kind of heathen calls them bubblers?

[full fossil]

Interesting

[manic torrent]

hoodie without a hood = jumper

[warm dust]

Soft drinks in Alberta are called pop most of the time but bubblers is just weird

[full fossil]

what do you guys in europe call a bundle of sticks?

[full fossil]

[lethal jay]

a bundle of sticks.....

[warm dust]

I live in an apartment that was from Google lol

[full fossil]

Don't do it

[manic torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/sarcastic-laugh-kid-fake-fake-laugh-gif-13229430

[full fossil]

oh lol

[lilac bear]

NO noooo NO maybe

[warm dust]

That is an oldie

[lethal jay]

Huh, doesn't matter if theres a hood here, still called a jumpre a lot of the time

[full fossil]

you call it a kid eating an apple? your cope and seethe is showing

[warm dust]

Glad to see it around

[full fossil]

Only reason I have any knowledge on UK culture is by watching BBC shows and James Acaster specifically

[manic torrent]

it's ok, I am an oldie

[warm dust]

I know

[lethal jay]

Like a cookie/rich tea/digestive

[warm dust]

A biscuit is a biscuit

[supple pawn]

Whats that english word for a cigarette?

[past egret]

its cigarette

[lilac bear]

a small thing of bread but it isn't a bun either

[full fossil]

[supple pawn]

Biscuits go well with gravy!

[lilac bear]

[full fossil]

American biscuits do yeah

[warm dust]

If you call something other than this a biscuit you're wrong

[full fossil]

Lot of people lying in the chat

[past egret]

its a scone

[lethal jay]

As an Irish person, this just sounds disgusting to me. Sure, I know its not what i think it is, but I stll think it every time

[supple pawn]

Thats a biscuit!

[lilac bear]

^^

[lethal jay]

Its a scone

[full fossil]

UK people a biscuit is essentially what Americans call a cookie

[warm dust]

If you're a Kool kid it's a dart

[lethal jay]

your telling the english they are wrong about their own language. Such an America moment

[supple pawn]

I call it a square

[warm dust]

No scones are not pastries

[full fossil]

my fans are barely going

[lilac bear]

wouldn't that make more sense for vapes though

[full fossil]

I don't think either is incorrect it's just how each culture and language developed over time

[supple pawn]

Neither are biscuits!

[warm dust]

What is a pastry

[past egret]

its all of the above

[warm dust]

Depends on what one you have I guess

A lot of 510 vapes are just mini javelins

[supple pawn]

Do yall call them weed eaters, weed whackers?

[lethal jay]

Honestly what is the expected answer?

Kindling?

[full fossil]

?

[warm dust]

I call them the loud ass thing it's 5am why the hell are you whipper snippering at 5am go back to bed god damn

[full fossil]

I say weed eater

[manic torrent]

A slur used for men who are attracted to other men.

[lethal jay]

Tf is a weed whacker?

[full fossil]

We say package instead of parcel

[warm dust]

Twink?

[lethal jay]

Oh a strimmer

[manic torrent]

slur, not slang.

[lethal jay]

I honestly have no clue what it is

[warm dust]

Loud ass pieces of crap that are designed solely to wake me up on the one day I have off

[lethal jay]

Yeah called a strimmer over here

[warm dust]

LMFAO dike is censored

[manic torrent]

literally google bundle of sticks

[full fossil]

Nothing ive said has been act, but youre obviously a troll

[supple pawn]

It an appliance used in yard work. It has a spool of plastic line which spins rapidly, cutting grass

[lethal jay]

just did. Never ever heard it used like that

[manic torrent]

exactly. That's the point.

[warm dust]

Bob how often are you called a troll

[past egret]

its weird because its more known for a wall that stops floods than a slur

[manic torrent]

old mate is edgy and cool.

[lethal jay]

Yeah, that seems ancient. Doubt anyone uses it anymore

[supple pawn]

Also a tool for cutting wires?

[warm dust]

I swear to god half the time I see you in chat you're called a troll

[manic torrent]

by troll and/or idiots? often!

[supple pawn]

Who?

[full fossil]

ya everyone is an idiot but you, you got it buddy

[warm dust]

Tbh I've only known it as the dam and nothing bad lol

[warm dust]

Bob

[full fossil]

google narcissism

[lethal jay]

wait bob thinks im an idiot......BOB how could you😢 😢

[warm dust]

Wood

[past egret]

it means a lot of things, and rarely used as a slur

[supple pawn]

Bob is the same spelled backwards and forwardz

[warm dust]

Bobbart