public-chat

[solar night]

We're fully hydro-electric here in BC, so everybody calls their power bill their "Hydro bill"

[solar stratus]

Wait how-

That’s cool

You guys seem so far ahead of us power wise

[graceful mortar]

From out the wall or DCFC? Though Europe has 240v as baseline so an onboard AC charger can go a LONG ways

[solar night]

Ah sorry, 2% is from natural gas, just over 91% is hydro, and the rest is renewable (wind, solar)

[solar stratus]

Bro that’s still insane, where does all the hydro power come from

Is there a big lake that I don’t know about

[solar night]

From the wall

[latent plank]

water...

[graceful mortar]

No wonder why they were freaking out and talking about how gaming can be really expensive 🤯🤯

[solar night]

Canada has the most lakes out of any country in the world haha, over 800k of them

[graceful mortar]

Hydro.. aka water

[solar stratus]

Thanks, I now know

[solar stratus]

It are they big-

Or small like ours in Utah

Besides the great salt lake but that’s mainly salt dried up anyway

[solar night]

Don't need to be when you have that many, and a dynamic topography

[graceful mortar]

I see lots of blue,

[solar night]

tbf, you're looking at the channel

[latent plank]

lower mainland of BC is classified as a temperate rain forest

[graceful mortar]

Very true.

[solar night]

And my home town! Shout out Nanaimo!

[solar stratus]

Really?

[latent plank]

home of the bars

[latent plank]

yep

[solar night]

Soooo good when deep fried

[solar stratus]

That’s weird

[solar night]

Really really

[solar stratus]

Real real real

[latent plank]

no, its science

[graceful mortar]

Here's the super zoomed out shot

[solar stratus]

That’s a lot of water

[latent plank]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-reynolds-drool-gif-24799775

[solar night]

There's only 7 temperate rainforest ecosystems globally, and the pacific north west is one of them (only one in NA)

[solar stratus]

The same thing that told me Pluto wasn’t a planet

[latent plank]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-bye-shoulder-shrug-gif-25933240

[solar stratus]

Smh when it’s moons are almost bigger then it

[graceful mortar]

Hey you leave my home state discovery alone!

[solar night]

Way to dox yourself mr Allakaket

[graceful mortar]

🤣🤣 It's just places I've been.

[solar stratus]

Bro when I learned that the earth didn’t have a perfectly elliptical orbit, I felt lied to from all the pics

[graceful mortar]

I would post a timeline shot to see how ridiculous I am and how I insist on driving absolutely everywhere on the planet.

But I feel like that would be a bit too much information.

[solar stratus]

Nkrp?

[graceful mortar]

Case in point drove up to LTX from Arizona.

[graceful mortar]

Wait they don't have those like orbit maps at school anymore?

[solar stratus]

Which ones?

They still have the perfect circle ones

As of Thursday

[warm dust]

I feel like I shouldn't be where while LTT staff are active

[latent plank]

why is that?

[graceful mortar]

Wait orbital around the Sun or rotational on its axis?

[latent plank]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-dot-dot-dot-stick-figure-intresting-gif-23376515

[warm dust]

Who are you

[graceful mortar]

They bring all the salt

[warm dust]

Stranger danger fuck off

[solar stratus]

Orbit around the sun, orbit on its axis is obvious

[warm dust]

OH I KNOW YOU

https://tenor.com/view/morshu-zelda-you-will-buy-from-me-gif-16437133

But fit

[graceful mortar]

Ya these style maps. (Not this as it's about asteroids)

Or the gif of OUR entire solar system flying through space

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-23419547

[solar stratus]

This you? #tech-chat-1 message

[warm dust]

Yes

[graceful mortar]

👀

[warm dust]

They have a kia

[graceful mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-enjoy-i-like-nom-nom-gif-11040065238845078056

[solar stratus]

They show the perfect round still ones

[graceful mortar]

I mean it looks round enough.

The earth kind of twerks on its rotational axis.

Assuming geographic pole ofc

[solar stratus]

You lost me

I’m going to bed, I don’t have to do earth science till tomorrow

[graceful mortar]

Sometimes I think the world was better in the past....

And then I remember Fred used to be the number one YouTube star 😪

[latent plank]

the simple orbits give an easy to look at model for understanding the basics. as you learn more about it you find out how complex they really get.

[graceful mortar]

Google stop bugging me.

burning man flooded?

[empty pollen]

Soggy man.

[hybrid hamlet]

Is a gtx 1060 viable still if I overclock it

[warm dust]

Burning man is still on but a lot of people left

[warm dust]

Not for high settings on new games most of the time

Doesn't I have 3gb of vram or something like that?

[hybrid hamlet]

3 gb of vram

[warm dust]

Damn Baldur's Gate 3 requires 4gb vram

[hybrid hamlet]

I can run vrchat on it using link cable decently

[vapid cypress]

How

[latent plank]

<@&750150305383186585>

[dull granite]

yo, fuck off buds

we don't care

[midnight idol]

howdy

[dull granite]

transphobes have no right to speak

<@&750150305383186585>

[vapid cypress]

They need mods that dont mirmir

Finally

[dull granite]

there's enough of them

most the times response is good enough

[full fossil]

🍞

[latent plank]

they are ppl too. it is always dealt with

[chilly fiber]

Good morning everyone

[graceful burrow]

What's good about it

[chilly fiber]

I am somehow not hungover

And today I start maybe a new careee

Career

[graceful burrow]

You might be hungover

[dusky sail]

the days are long but the years fly by

[graceful burrow]

Konrad are you local to the ltt office cause it sure is late

[full fossil]

z

Was protoaster banned?

Whoo

sent me gore

in a gross not cute way obviously

[graceful burrow]

Maybe tell a mod and not just announce it in public chat kek

[full fossil]

Im chief keefin on G lol

praying that he lost it!

then ill be back in like a month

[dull granite]

just ask <@&750150305383186585> s

cuz this is concerning

[full fossil]

thx you

Probably immature to be excited to hear about the ban and publicizing it but we ball

[trim robin]

how wolud one ever send gore in a cute way even

[graceful burrow]

The ban won't be publicized if they are banned
And you bringing it up does break rules here too

[full fossil]

oomph

[graceful burrow]

So you'd be bringing yourself under fire for no reason

[full fossil]

Does that unjustify it being not cute?

[trim robin]

no

[full fossil]

Theres your tech tip

[full fossil]

erm... fire you say? 💯 💯 🔥

[opal thunder]

this mf has been buzzing around my head the past 10 minutes finally got it

[latent plank]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-hands-gif-23316180

[opal thunder]

fr

At least when it finally came into range I got it the first try unlike usually.

[latent plank]

nice

[opal thunder]

I can't it was just mocking me from above my reach near the ceiling for that long tbh usually they are blood fiends

[tidal minnow]

What's your opinion on

[opal thunder]

🍞

[opal thunder]

that is my opinion

[tidal minnow]

[opal thunder]

[tidal minnow]

Linus loaf tips

[vapid cypress]

Kill the bread meme

[opal thunder]

Says the guy with the bread roll.

[vapid cypress]

Yes

But

[opal thunder]

It's entertaining to say the least.

[latent plank]

dont be such a buzzkill. its funny, part of the lmg lore now, and doesnt hurt anyone

[vapid cypress]

Its getting stale like bread

[opal thunder]

Also I need recommendations if anyone has the time. https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1148102218235531304

[vapid cypress]

Its getting overused and borrring

Yall dont know memeconomics

[latent plank]

that sounds like a you problem

[opal thunder]

It's getting Stale?

[vapid cypress]

yes

[vapid cypress]

No I dont think so

[latent plank]

you are the only one complaining.... so i do think so

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[opal thunder]

Nah, others have complained, but the majority either don't care or actively post bread memes and enjoy it.

[vapid cypress]

I enjoyed it for a bit but like how long can you make the same joke??

[tidal minnow]

Bread gaming pc when!!!!!!!

Also what happened to nick light? Did you imposter stab him? 0>0

[olive stump]

Did I hear correctly that we need more bread?

🍞 🍞 🍞

[opal thunder]

People have been rickrolling and telling people the song name is Darude Sandstorm for over a decade.

[vapid cypress]

Yeah and i actively avoid those people

[dreamy rose]

we need more Brad? here's some Brad.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gtawiki/images/d/db/BradSnider-GTAV2.png/revision/latest?cb=20151121225412

[vapid cypress]

Well more like pasively

[opal thunder]

The Funny is obviously subjective.

[olive stump]

https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-gif-24442867

[latent plank]

you must be fun at parties...

[olive stump]

You must be fun at parties

[opal thunder]

💀

[olive stump]

damnit Nick

[latent plank]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[vapid cypress]

Sorry if you dont like it

[limber sparrow]

Guys

[dreamy rose]

wtf is Meast? Eastern Meat?

[vapid cypress]

Mrbeast

[topaz bloom]

Has Linus considered the Aqara Presence Sensor FP2 for presence detection in his house?

[latent plank]

zero clue

[strong kettle]

his discord username

c:

[dreamy rose]

:|

[dull granite]

Br Meast

[graceful mortar]

should bring this back but tournament style with teams!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsdMRbgclu8

[vapid cypress]

No

[terse niche]

Hey mate, you end up deciding on what to buy first? Case or PSU?

[dreamy rose]

i'm thinking to get the case first

[latent plank]

Thats against the rules... plz read AND understand them

[strong kettle]

mr feast

[terse niche]

nice the you can plan out the rest of your hardware. When i checked out that PSU seems everywhere else sells it at 89 so even if the price did increase again, it would only be about by $10

[dreamy rose]

yeah, its just up to how long it takes to get to 90 bucks. i have 50 already

[terse niche]

Well Best of luck mate

[empty pollen]

Channel Super Fun is now a bread baking channel.

[strong kettle]

wat

[empty pollen]

All bread, all the time.

https://anovaculinary.com/products/anova-precision-oven
Seriously though, would love to see the LTT take on one of these.

[pastel dove]

Sorry but with all this bread memes, I would feel forgiveness to LTT if they did some bread machine reviews

[wispy marsh]

@grave torrent

lttstore.com

[wispy marsh]

They did it at least twice

[pastel dove]

Main channel or did not happen

[wispy marsh]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ-KZzVUV7U

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ueQDmaoAF2c

[pastel dove]

@wispy marsh sorry sir those are toasters

[grave torrent]

OH FFS

[wispy marsh]

You're looking for a baker

[wispy marsh]

[graceful wren]

How do AMD graphics cards compare to NVIDIA cards?

[limber sparrow]

Better

[graceful burrow]

depends on the workload

[limber sparrow]

But ray Tracying

[graceful wren]

I mean which are comparable to 20 series etc?

I’m currently running a 1050ti

[graceful burrow]

5000 was the 20 series competitor

6000 is what everyone is buying on amd rn

[limber sparrow]

Ew

[limber sparrow]

7800 is 500 tomorrow

[graceful wren]

And I don’t think a 1050ti will cope with starfield

[limber sparrow]

Buy a 7800 tomorrow

It comes out tomorrow with the price of 500

[graceful wren]

Probably won’t be able to afford that

Since I’m on a low income it will probably take me a few months to save for the Sapphire Radeon RX 6600 XT Pulse 8GB GDDR6 I’ve seen 2nd hand locally

[limber sparrow]

everyone is keep telling me how my black story supposed to go But nah ima to my own thing

[graceful wren]

Would you say a Sapphire Radeon RX 6600 XT Pulse 8GB GDDR6 is worth £200 second hand?

[pliant mantle]

G'day gentlemen and ladies

[opal thunder]

USD?

considering i live in a good area for the used market and they are going for about 190-200$ USD yeah thats ok

[vapid cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-25169380

[graceful burrow]

OK and

Why you tellin me

[graceful wren]

That’s gbp

[opal thunder]

oof

EU used market really IS bad

[graceful wren]

And I earn about £400 gbp a month

[opal thunder]

thats about 30% more than what it is here in the used market and our minimum salary is higher i think

oof

16.75/hr

anyways i have no idea if that is good in the EU used market since its very different from here

[fossil frost]

either you are getting paid dramatically below minimum wage, or, work very few hours

[graceful wren]

Is 16.75 an hour your minimum wage

I get dead on minimum wage for here and only work 10 hours a week

[cyan pier]

long live the bread supremacy

[brazen carbon]

bister meast

[narrow mantle]

anyone here able to teach about creating spiral on autocad?

[limber sparrow]

WHAT

[brazen carbon]

what

bister meast

[empty pollen]

This is way more than just a toaster, just saying, we all like food and kitchen tech is another space like automotive that LMG should think about.

There is a bit of a freeze on new projects right now but I think it should go in the pile.

[modest lion]

🤝

[cerulean saffron]

Does anyone have experience/feedback using Silicon Power A55 SSDs? I found one for almost half the usual cost (based on capacity) and it feels a bit too good to be true

[woven star]

We need more custom rom/rooting content, who agrees

[empty pollen]

So while I would love to see more content on this kind of thing, unless the community is to the next, next, I agree, next, finish level of deployment I think having LMG cover something like that beyond wan show or quickie news is a negative. They will cover it in a works on my machine case, if the average user cant just do what they demo and the spot is not some unreleased dev kit or something it wont get a ton of views and people frustrated. The emulator content was neat but unless the video was a bit of widely used hardware it got lukewarm views. Even phone stuff is all over the road you cant really make a video that appeals to most people.

You have to think about who will want to engage with this content and it limits the scope.

Sidebar, we should have a reccomendations room to scream into. Even if not looked into often would provide an idea discussion space.

[full fossil]

o

[rare terrace]

hi is this the official LTT channel or a fake?
https://www.youtube.com/user/linustechtips

[empty pollen]

Since I only copy paste links I was confused why you would ask.

Then I hovered.

[vapid moss]

oh looks like discord re added hyperlink things

[opal thunder]

recognize that url

lmao

that is so smart

hopefully that isnt abused by phishing accounts

[gentle slate]

itll definitely be abused by phishing accs

[opal thunder]

yeah

[gentle slate]

iirc it was teased before but they pulled it due to phishing

[opal thunder]

im going to hav to double check every time i hover a link\

[strong kettle]

they will always abuse something

[sly haven]

Dammit

[dreamy rose]

you think they haven't ever used .zip links?

[opal thunder]

Ofc they abuse everything they can but it’s nice to hope that others either don’t get targeted or fall for it

[carmine light]

Okay is it just me, or has the Youtube "1080p" been looking worse ever since they introduced the paid "high bitrate 1080p" option?

[rare terrace]

ok so they tried to fix it by banning starting with http:// or https://

[dreamy rose]

"pay for 1080p looser"

[opal thunder]

Nah it’s looked fine to me

[rare terrace]

and they did unicode normalisation and remove ZWJs or related

[carmine light]

I swear it looks more compressed than it used to

[rare terrace]

but i still found an easy way around it

[carmine light]

Maybe I'm just being conspiratorial, but I wouldn't put it past them

[opal thunder]

Placebo im guessing unless they actually are just being scummy

All the tech YouTubers would be on their ass

[olive stump]

Yeah was a bug they fixed a few weeks back -- https://github.com/discord/discord-api-docs/issues/6088

Have fun

[gentle slate]

why do we even need hyperlinks

[gleaming compass]

how else will discord handle it's true purpose? the distribution of malware :P

[carmine light]

hyperlinks are cool tho

[sweet jetty]

Wussup lttcord

[gleaming compass]

Are you quoting Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee?

[carmine light]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-possible-data-star-trek-the-next-generation-its-possible-gif-23358016

[wispy marsh]

You just bought a very nice bolster and went to rest, waking up the next day to find a large mushroom instead.

It's protecting an Enchanted Ember.

[gleaming harbor]

noice but not gonna eat it still (if you asked me)

[gleaming compass]

If you continue without a torch, you are most likely going to be eaten by a grue

[empty pollen]

I look forward to the mess this creates.

[past kernel]

plane crash rapid unscheduled disassembly

[gleaming harbor]

long ago i had a 2 monitors setup but when i screenshot it screenshot both monitors but how do i limit to the active monitor

[gleaming compass]

are you using X11 or Wayland?

[gleaming harbor]

nevermind screw that

[gleaming compass]

oh... Windows?

[gleaming harbor]

yes

[gleaming compass]

press the windows key and then press g at the same time

you can then just take a snapshot of the individual window

just click on the camera icon to capture and then click on the window

[summer folio]

Remember EU forced apple to use USB-C on their phones

& Apple fought against it with their teeths the entire way

So if Apple doesn't mention the EU law forcing them to switch on 12:th september

or even "Brags" about it as their entire own idea in marketing

laugh at this company

[gleaming compass]

Now that we built it this way, we can't imagine it any other way.
-- Jony Ive (when announcing a MacBook that no longer has magsafe)

[gleaming harbor]

apple users dont want usbc cause android has usbc and yknow apple users DISLIKE android users

[gleaming compass]

What was truly funny was announcing ProRes Raw video footage could be taken on a device that still only supports USB 2.0 lightning cables. I welcome them taking credit for switching to USB-C.

[spice pine]

this is just blatantly untrue lmao, a lot of apple users have been begging for USB-C for years

[gleaming compass]

If Apple really believed that Apple users would hate iOS products having USB-C then they wouldn't have switch the iPad Pro to using it

[silent lichen]

It's dumb having another baby type of expensive but weak cord for ios devices

Because they always break

[gleaming compass]

The reason Apple still use lightning connectors is the same reason SuperMicro motherboards still have VGA, the industry is slow to change

[silent lichen]

So they turn vga ports into those cords

[gleaming compass]

No, there is no good reason a motherboard that supports DDR5 should ever have a VGA port

[silent lichen]

Wait what

[full fossil]

he said " there is no good reason a motherboard that supports DDR5 should ever have a VGA port"

[silent lichen]

Ik

[gleaming compass]

SuperMicro still puts VGA on their latest motherboards because data centers still assume that all servers will still have VGA

[silent lichen]

How does a phone mobo support ddr5

[full fossil]

your iphone doesnt have a vga port?

[dreamy rose]

MFs when they praise the Fediverse

[gleaming compass]

Once it has USB-C, I probably can find an adapter? :P

[full fossil]

haha probably

[dreamy rose]

they use LPDDR5.

[gleaming compass]

My point is the industry is slow to change "standards" even when they are clearly out of date. It isn't just Apple.

If it wasn't for Apple promoting 802.11b as a commonty/home device, we would probably all still be using wired laptops for networking

Why does the industry still treat HDMI as the connector expected to be supported on everything?

[neon mesa]

Chicken and egg problem

You wanna make HDMI product because many things use it

But many things use it because people keep making HDMI products

Well not really a chicken and egg problem.
But it is a feedback loop

Or is it? I dunno

[gleaming compass]

So we continue to pay a licensing fee for an inferior standard? Even when DisplayPort over USB-C would make life so much easier and better?

[neon mesa]

I mean if Nvidia were to make a GPU with no HDMI everyone would probably be pretty pissed off

[timid meadow]

Usb c all the things

[neon mesa]

And call it "greedy cost savings measures"

[queen dew]

bread

[gleaming compass]

Why not sell an adapter so people that want to pay for the HDMI licensing fee end up paying for it and everyone else can go with royalty free DisplayPort?

[dreamy rose]

i guess its fine. but most would be mad about it.

[neon mesa]

People hate dongles

Like how people are still pissed about headphone jack being gone

[dreamy rose]

its 10 cents a port tho

[neon mesa]

It's not an easy problem to solve

[gleaming compass]

It is 10 cents EACH device, starts to add up

[neon mesa]

Like even VGA is still kicking around

[dreamy rose]

well, Aux is different because you can use Aux for basically anything and Bluetooth fucking sucks. DisplayPort is a better standard. even just having USB C is a good idea nobody but AMD are taking serously.

a SINGLE USB C on our GPUs are all we ask for. but no.

[neon mesa]

Eh don't really care about USB C

[worn pulsar]

Quadros P1000/T1000 all use mini DP and provide adapters in the box. Not a bad solution imo

[dreamy rose]

"Nvidia doesnt give a shit so why should we" is the kind of stupid mindset these AIBs have more likely than not.

[worn pulsar]

Business grade stuff

[neon mesa]

Almost all monitors have HDMI
But only better ones usually use USB C

Not a deal breaker for most

But still yea it's not hard to include

[dreamy rose]

it makes it better for certain HMDs.

[dull tapir]

i have never used usb c on pc

only on phone

[neon mesa]

We can already use DP without USB C on HMDs

[dreamy rose]

so you dont have to use stupid unessasary adaptors to use it when it has a USB C

[neon mesa]

And if you're referring VirtualLink

[worn pulsar]

Why is it stupid

[neon mesa]

VL is dead on arrival with no HMD ever using it except PSVR2

[dull tapir]

i have no device i plug into my pc that has usb c

[neon mesa]

even then, PSVR2's VL is not compatible with PCs

[dreamy rose]

you could just have a usbc on the gpu in the first place

[worn pulsar]

But you’d end up using a hdmi or displayport converter for monitors that don’t support usb-c, which is quite a lot on the lower-mid end

[dreamy rose]

Bigscreen Beyond joins the chat

[summer folio]

Bring back the Superior Connection.
DVI.

[dull tapir]

i have usb c port on my case and motherboard put i removed connected because i do not use it just less cables

[neon mesa]

The beyond does not use VirtualLink, they use standard DP

[sudden bear]

but most GPU's have multiple outputs, it's not that hard to swap one for a type C

[worn pulsar]

This is true, having a dual slot card that has a couple USB-C ports as well as DisplayPort would be great

Single slot you will struggle

[dreamy rose]

Bad Point. GPUs have multiple ports. Replacing one with a USB C will not hurt anything

[dreamy rose]

Doesn't matter what it uses, it HAS a USB C.

[neon mesa]

Of course... It matters...
USBC is only a port

[dreamy rose]

no need for Adaptors in better regardless.

[dull tapir]

why would gpu require usb c port

[neon mesa]

If the port doesn't support something, it doesn't work

[dull tapir]

are motherboard ones not enough

[neon mesa]

And not all USBC has DP over USB so you'll need a SPECIAL cable anyway

[sudden bear]

but Type-C is so easily adapted to so many othewr things that it DOES work no matter what

[neon mesa]

Something we already do with DP to USBC cables

[dull tapir]

lol i only use one dp port on gpu

all the rest are free

[dreamy rose]

it SHOULD have them. not nessasary but it should be happening

[dull tapir]

but why just to expand free usb c ports on pc

i mean what is the purpose of it

[sudden bear]

Single cable VR, single cable monitor connection WITH the USB hub

[dreamy rose]

because
A: Virtualink is actually useful.
B: you are likely gonna need to spend extra money on a stupid adaptor to make worthwile use your PSVR2.

yes, i'm saying it, PSVR2 on PS is just stupid.

[neon mesa]

VirtualLink is not useful

The adapter being developed for PSVR2 straight up not use VL

[sudden bear]

IS it really that good on PC already? it took AGES for PSVR1 to get USABLE on PC

[sudden bear]

Other headsets will come

[dreamy rose]

how is it not? its both USB DP and USB PD in one connector.

[neon mesa]

USB DP is NOT VirtualLink

They're different standards

VirtualLink has been dead since turing

There's no reason to use it over USB DP

[dull tapir]

depends what you use it for

i know majority would not need it

[neon mesa]

PSVR2 is the only odd one out

[sudden bear]

USB-C doesn't NEED to be VL, we can still put USB-C on gffx cards tho, give it DP, USB and Power and it will be useful

[neon mesa]

Even then, the iVRy adapter uses Display port

And the only VL supported card is 2000 series

AMD also has USB C but i don't know whether VL is included

[dreamy rose]

its not out to public yet but its working. the biggest hurdle is that it lies about being unable to use DSC removing VR Mode entirely. making any attempt to run on any Nvidia/ Windows hardware impossible without custom hardware.

[sudden bear]

ah, sounds like development for PSVR2 on PC is moving along better than PSVR1 though

[neon mesa]

Idk why people want to use PSVR2 on PC so bad unless they already have a PS5

[dreamy rose]

they said that shit was just barely possible but here we are.

[neon mesa]

The workaround makes most of the features broken making it no more valuable than existing PCVR headset

[dreamy rose]

well i guess you arent exactly the sharpest tool in the shed then. cause the PSVR2 hardware is comparable to the Index for a lower price.

[sudden bear]

that will likley change, I have a PS5 but already had an Index, mayube if things improve I'll gonsider upgrading my Index to a PSVR2 and use it on both 😛

[neon mesa]

550, + 150 in adapter.
With no guarantee to work.

[dreamy rose]

Res is better, PSVR2 is OLED etc.

[neon mesa]

Also, index isn't even good visually today

[dull tapir]

dual monitor setups are the worst imo go either 1x or 3x like which one is main left or right which neck strain do you want

[sudden bear]

it's not exactly BAD...

[dreamy rose]

150? pff please get real. you aren't shoving a hundred on an Adaptor.

[neon mesa]

The adapter is rumored to be over 100

[dreamy rose]

and as for "No Guarantee" that's just Cope. there's a reason they haven't launched Drivers yet, they are working on it still clearly

[neon mesa]

The cope is people buying PSVR2 for PCVR before seeing it works

It should only be a bonus thing, not the main thing

[dreamy rose]

nobody is doing that mate.

[sudden bear]

Some people like to tinker and have money to burn, what's wrong with that?

[neon mesa]

Yeah

[neon mesa]

I'm not referring to the IVRy team

Outside of them are just people waiting for IVRy to make it for them
Not exactly "tinkerer" are they

[sudden bear]

there are other enthusiasts out there who like to tinker

some people likley also have a PS5 and want to use it on PC as well

[dreamy rose]

and even then. there is proof it works and Drivers are in development so no its not that stupid.

[pale osprey]

Does anyone here want a chivalry 2 key i already have it and humble bundle gave me one

[neon mesa]

I already mentioned "unless they already have a PS5"

[sudden bear]

I mean it's a LITTLE dumb to buy it JUST for that right now, there'll probably already be a price drop or sale between now and the drivers working

[dreamy rose]

i wouldn't hold my breath on that but sure, its possible.

[sudden bear]

Not a BIG price drop, but there may be a deal somewhere along the way.

anyway, I need to step away for a moment, and I'm sure the topic will be long gone by the time I get back with how fast the chat moves XD

[lilac bear]

PS might compete with Meta if they allowed their headsets to be used on PC

[neon mesa]

Not really, different market

[lilac bear]

Vivo then

[sudden bear]

Maybe, but not likley, they want people to buy PS5's

[neon mesa]

Most of meta customers are standalone users

[dreamy rose]

they would have no reason to make it work officially.

[neon mesa]

Under 10% of their quest lineup is used for PCVR

[lilac bear]

OH

[neon mesa]

Standalone is where the big market is at

[full fossil]

I dont understand a few things about VR

I've tried it and I don't enjoy it

[sudden bear]

nvm I'm staying, my 3D printer will need attention soon 😛

[sudden bear]

if it's not for you that's fine, but a lot of people try bad VR and say they don't get it, what did you try?

[full fossil]

I think apples new VR is closer to something I would use but even then its too heavy, also the eye strain on all them is just too much , what real advantage is it over a good screen setup really

[dreamy rose]

why bother when you can get a bunch of coder guys to spend all the money making it out of their own pocket while it sells you more hardware you can make big margins on?

[neon mesa]

Apple's VR have no real clear use right now

We already have something like the XReal glasses

[full fossil]

right i mean the way it functions

[dreamy rose]

its not VR. its XR.

[full fossil]

oops wrong reply

[neon mesa]

XR is just VR and AR in one

[thin fjord]

does xr mean mixed reality or is it a new gimmick

[sudden bear]

Don't look at VR as a replacment for screens, its a whole other thing, puts you IN the experience instead of just interacting with it

[full fossil]

being able to look at something and have it perfectly select it is the only appealing part

[full fossil]

I just find monitors immersive enough and without all the cons

[dreamy rose]

Cross Reality/AR. its all interchangeable anyway except VR. VR is Virtual Reality with NO Real world

[sudden bear]

IF you play games I think you just need a better example of a proper VR game experience, something that CAN'T translate to a flat screen

[full fossil]

also would having a small backpack or front pack with a small cable really not be more enjoyable than 10lbs on your face?

[neon mesa]

The heaviest headset around is barely 2 pound

[full fossil]

im exxagerating but it still feels heavy and annoying to me

[neon mesa]

And lighter ones are closer to 1

[sudden bear]

I'm still a teathered guy with my index, there are other solutions though, I really wish an 802.11ay-WiGig wireless adaptor for the Index would come out

[neon mesa]

If your experience is with the quest, i guess that explains it

The quest is one of the most horrible in term of comfort without accessories

[full fossil]

i did the quest and i think the vive? or something

[dreamy rose]

its something that comes with Wireless VR. you can fuck up whatever's inside by moving around/falling etc.

[full fossil]

2 of my friends are into vr and i tried beat saber and some weird mmo thing and didnt enjoy either of them

[timid meadow]

Ngl as a basic vr experience for light use, i enjoy my quest 1

Beat Saber and other wireless games feel fine, works well enough tethered to pc

[dreamy rose]

you gotta remember that VR is way more physical than flatscreen so physical factors matter so much more.

[sudden bear]

Beat Sabre is over rated IMO (don't smite me Linus 😛 ) and idk what MMO, but you should try something like Half Life: Alyx, Boneworks, or maybe a good multiplayer shooter like Pavlov or whatever the kids are playing these days 😛

[full fossil]

idk im basically saying with as many cons as VR has like eye strain, a giant thing on your face, having to take it off to talk to someone or do anything normal, lower resolution etc, i dont see the appeal of it over a good monitor setup, im not saying im right im just saying I genuinely cant relate to the people that love VR, I dont get it

but something like apples eye tracking where you can just look at something and it perfectly selects it im jealous of

[dreamy rose]

i agree that beat is overrated.

[neon mesa]

I'd take VR over 3 monitor anyday of the week if i use it for flight sim

Especially that i get to have natural head movement rather than using TrackIR

[dreamy rose]

you dont have to take it off to do things in the real world, you just have no idea about Passthrough.

[full fossil]

do you think its possible to get good enough eye tracking on a pc with monitors to be able to quickly and perfectly select stuff ?

[sudden bear]

There's less eye strain on better headsets, some can be smaller and lighter, and I don't have anyone IRL I want to interact with anyway 😛 resolutions are also improving, FOV is the big thing for me, and the Quest just doesn't have the FOV

[neon mesa]

Quest is the bottom of the barrel

[full fossil]

i know what passthrough is lol

[neon mesa]

I only have short experience with Quest 2 as my headset is Pico 4
But it is miles ahead in comfort

And the motorized IPD really helps with eye strain

[full fossil]

is there one where you really feel immersed you cant notice youre looking at a screen close to your eyes?

[neon mesa]

I never feel like a screen is on my eyes

[full fossil]

hm

maybe im just old idk

[sudden bear]

yes, the best are really expensive, but the index is a good step closer to that than any of the ones you think you might havfe tried. the wide FOV is what makes it, wider would be better, but if you've ever worn a moterbike helmet you'll think it's plenty 😛

[full fossil]

lol

[sudden bear]

Any less FOV than an Index and I feel like I'm wearing blinders

[full fossil]

they should build one into a motorcycle helmet

[sudden bear]

they really should though, lots of room for everything you need, just add some ventilation

[dreamy rose]

might be an idea for Chrisquitsreality,

[full fossil]

i want to try a VR RPG like Skyrim or something where the controller is embeded into a sword or axe or something, while im on a movement treadmill, id finally workout

or vermintide

[sudden bear]

You can get VR Skyrim to be decent with mods, but it's a fair bit of work, they really didn't build a good VR version of it to start with

[full fossil]

that sucks, the biggest thing for me would be the weightlessness in the swinging my weapon and stuff

[sudden bear]

It can be good, but there's better options out there for that sort of experience. It's not my sort of game so I don't know any of them off the toip of my head, but I know there's games like that you'd LOVE

[dreamy rose]

unless you wanna try defy physics and create weight out of thin air then no dice.

[sudden bear]

IDK, I think boneworks did a pretty good job of handling that conundrum

[full fossil]

i mean you could just make a controller than can be slotted into things you sell seperately like a plastic axe or something

[dreamy rose]

you mean the Wiimote?

[gleaming compass]

did you just define a white hole as defying physics?

[full fossil]

no i mean a vr controller

a wii mote is for the nintendo wii

[dreamy rose]

it can be used for VR

[sudden bear]

You CAN, but I've considered gun stocks for my controllers, problem is when you swap from a rifle to a pistol it's all wonky

[empty pollen]

A maquette.

[sudden bear]

lol I'm sure it can, but that would SUUUUUCK 😛

[dreamy rose]

better than having nothing though

[sudden bear]

idk, I think I'd rather use a normal controller at that point 😛

[gleaming compass]

It is cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw

[full fossil]

what i really want someone to make is good all day AR glasses, where it uses filters to enhance normal life and allows you to do things like watch a video in the top right of your vision and get your notifications

i want to turn everyone into morrowind characters while I watch some youtube at my desk without my boss knowing

[sudden bear]

yeah, AR still sucks, but that's really a different space, devices exist to do both, but they generally sacrifice their ability to do one or BOTH in order to do it

[full fossil]

turn all big buildings into giant mushrooms, buses into silt striders, etc lol

[gleaming compass]

That is because we keep trying to jump ahead to using AR as a game gimmick. It should be developed into a commonty as a business tool first.

[full fossil]

if they made discreet ar glasses where you could watch youtube without anyone knowing and basically only that, youd sell an insane amount to cubicle workers across the world lol

[sudden bear]

yeah, probably, but at that point I'm more interested in what Voxon Photonics is doing than AR 😛

[dreamy rose]

dreaming of google glass?

[full fossil]

add notifications and other little things from your phone and youve got a gold mine

[sudden bear]

*Disclaimer: I am friends with the founders of Voxon Photonics and worked there for a breif period, but TRUELY love what they have created 😄

[full fossil]

hmm looks cool

[gleaming compass]

How much does it cost?

[full fossil]

if it was cheap id personally buy one for a desk ornament i could change lol

[sudden bear]

Adsmitedly still like 10K last I checked 😛

[full fossil]

also it looks like it only works in the dark?

isnt there a type of glass you could encase it in so that it would show up properly in any lighting?

like a tinted reflective glass that turns away all lighting

so you can see what is inside

[sudden bear]

tough to easily make that into a dome, they have gotten brighter, but it is tough to photo video, even in the dark

[full fossil]

ah ok

[neon mesa]

We have that

[full fossil]

where can i buy it

[neon mesa]

Xreal Air glasses, 400 buckaroos

[sudden bear]

but IMO the VX1 is what the "Looking Glass" WISHES it could be 😛

[neon mesa]

I want one of those glasses

So i can watch exclusive tech tips without anyone snooping

[full fossil]

Looks a little big to not bring attention to me and also sunglasses

[sudden bear]

I wish I could go into detail about the internals of the VX1, but I don't remember what is covered by the NDA and what isn't 😛

[neon mesa]

I mean, that or a honking ready player one looking helmet

[full fossil]

i just want something i can get away with at work lol

[timid meadow]

Can you solder?

[neon mesa]

No

[full fossil]

id prefer something that looks like normal glasses, even if it had to attach to my phone

[timid meadow]

Learn.

https://youtu.be/94THBVCkipo

[full fossil]

i could run the cable through my shirt and to my phone in my pocket lol

[sudden bear]

pretty sure short ciurcit ahs covered SOMETHING like that

[neon mesa]

Nah, i prefer something like the Xreal Air.
Not low resolution, one eye thing

But I'll keep that in mind

Also, no 3d printer

[gleaming compass]

hopefully someday modern science will discover how to make 802.11ax

[timid meadow]

Yea but its not hard to find someone who needs to do a few jobs to pay for the one they recently bought

[full fossil]

idk what that is but i agree

[neon mesa]

Competition is fierce here, I don't see a use other than for my occasional needs

[sudden bear]

802.11ax is WiFi 6 lol

[full fossil]

if wifi 6 is so great why is there no wifi 7

think

[sudden bear]

There is, it's just not out yet

[full fossil]

oh

[neon mesa]

Cheaper to get someone print it out for me
Though the guy has etsy for the DIY thing

[sudden bear]

I think the TECHNICAL name for it is 802.11be, but I'm not sure

[neon mesa]

I might check it out

[sudden bear]

there are some cheap 3D printers about

[gleaming compass]

it is still expensive to impliment

[sudden bear]

I just picked up a Sovol SV06 Plus recently, good price, great printer

[full fossil]

how dangerous is the air around a 3d printer?

[sudden bear]

if you only print PLA it's fine

[full fossil]

oh okay

[sudden bear]

still probably best not to be in a small sealed room with it ALL the time, but it's not TOO bad

[gleaming compass]

I was hoping to 3D print in asbestos because I hate when things I print catch fire :P

[full fossil]

3d print some fake snow

[sudden bear]

ABS and ASA are bad enough fume wise, like really bad, PLA isn't 100% good good, but it's passable

[full fossil]

can you eat pla?

[neon mesa]

Print mercury

[sudden bear]

XD no

[full fossil]

can i?

[sudden bear]

also no

[full fossil]

😦

[gleaming compass]

I find subtractive 3D printing to be more interesting than additive

[full fossil]

ok real question

[neon mesa]

Subtractive 3d printer sounds like CNC

[sudden bear]

you CAN get 3D printers that print edible materials lich chocolate though

[sudden bear]

XD yep lol

[full fossil]

there must be some way to 3d print with a sugar so you could make custom candy?

[gleaming compass]

Yes, exactly

[full fossil]

Oooo

[sudden bear]

yep, but they are special printers

[full fossil]

im a special boy

[sudden bear]

yeah... Veeeeeerrrrryyyyy "Special" 😛

[full fossil]

lol

[gleaming compass]

Next you are going to claim they can 3D print organs? :P

[dreamy rose]

well.

[full fossil]

i wish

[gleaming compass]

Yes?
https://fortune.com/well/2023/02/15/3d-printed-organs-may-soon-be-a-reality/

[sudden bear]

I mean, yeah

XD beat me to it 😛

[full fossil]

theyve also said cell wash organs will soon be a reality for about 20 years now

never happens 😦

[dreamy rose]

yeah. but my question is what about legs? you could theoretically make a leg shaped thing and put cells in it and make a leg you could stitch back on could you not? maybe its too big, i dunno. i'm no medical scientist or whatever.

you can make ears out of apples.

[gleaming compass]

I think you are looking at years of PT before you learn how the 3D printed nerves respond in comparison to your old leg

[full fossil]

in order to have something not reject you either need to supress a persons immune system or it has to be organic material completely stripped of cells and then washed in the persons so that it fuses with those so that is basically "is" the persons body

[dreamy rose]

and thats exactly the idea.

[full fossil]

and yeah motor function of something like a limb is even more complex

theyve been saying they planned to do that with organs for transplant patients using animal organs for a couple decades

as far as I am aware they havent been successful

[dreamy rose]

say you still have your knees. how does that change things?

[full fossil]

I dont know what youre asking

[gleaming compass]

you still want fine motor skills of the foot

[dreamy rose]

the most important part for a legs mobility would be the knees. that would change the picture drastically if what you were trying to replace was below that.

[full fossil]

again im not sure what youre asking, are you saying could you transplant on an entire leg from the knee down, not including the knee?

so you have your own knee but youd like to transplant on the rest?

[dreamy rose]

yeah. i guess so. a below knee replacement

[gleaming compass]

I think he is asking how long it would take to learn to walk if the new tissue was all below the knee

[full fossil]

basically impossible

there would be so many veins, tissues, nerves, etc to connect

[gleaming compass]

I think there is a great deal more involved in controlling the muscles below the knee and the muscles of the foot while walking that we take for granted

[full fossil]

that even if you could build it perfectly without worrying about rejection

it would not function

there are 100s of veins and like 5 types, then you have tissue and more and it all works kind of together with the whole body and without those things working perfectly the leg doesnt function or dies

[dreamy rose]

it might not be a perfect remake of how a leg works, but you'd still be able to walk though. it'd just be a bit clunky and odd.

[gleaming compass]

if you don't want to walk like a pirate with a wooden peg, you will still need to learn the mappings of the nerves below the knee

[full fossil]

youre better off with a prosthetic for sure

there are a lot of good ones, i wish they were cheapers

[gleaming compass]

that comes with its own set of problems

[full fossil]

but they function well

[dreamy rose]

Agreed. but they have downsides, mainly the fact that people are attached to having Biological legs.

[full fossil]

of course there is downsides you have no leg lol but really they have come so far that its not that bad

[dreamy rose]

when you think about it you can be as creative as you dare with them.

[full fossil]

https://accessprosthetics.com/products/prosthetics/below-knee-prosthetics/high-activity-below-knee-prosthetics/

these are great

[gleaming compass]

What will be funny is the day the special Olympics has the fastest runners in the world...
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/27/sport/blake-leeper-world-athletics-spt-intl/index.html

[sudden bear]

wow, the moment I step away to attend to my 3D printer we are talking about prosthetics lol

Hacksmith did a video about some cool prostheticxs recently

[dreamy rose]

that'll be like 2077

[full fossil]

i remember this from back in the day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=lSGBwUEcM6c&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dguy%2Bthat%2Bruns%2Bwith%2Bblades%2Brejected%2Bby%2Bolympics%26rlz%3D1C1EJFA_enUS857US857%26oq%3Dguy%2Bthat%2Bruns%2Bwith%2Bbl&source_ve_path=Mjg2NjY&feature=emb_logo

[gleaming compass]

They are already complaining it is too unfair of an advantage

[full fossil]

Oscar Pastorious or whatever the blade runner

[dreamy rose]

they are people that don't know shit.

[full fossil]

i mean it is an advantage

they spring you foward lol

[gleaming compass]

True, it is just still funny. If they really believe it is unfair advantage, why don't they get their own lower legs cut off and replaced? :P

[dreamy rose]

they take extra effort to compress.

[full fossil]

yeah its a big debate for sure

I remember it 10 years ago lol

[gleaming compass]

and it is still raging

[dreamy rose]

its a big dumb debate ngl.

[full fossil]

right, he is special so it should be in the special olympics

he is a modified human

[dreamy rose]

you cant really use the term Cyborg either

[full fossil]

i wish we could, that would be an olympics i would watch

today we have an arm wrestling competition between Rocket Arm Ronny, and V8 dan, 2 different tech arms, 1 match, who will win

[gleaming compass]

Summer Olympics 2040, brought to you by Boston Dynamics?

[full fossil]

lets gooo

[harsh quartz]

bosstown dynamics*

[past kernel]

cyborg olympics would be definitely something to tune into

[dreamy rose]

anyone seen this game before?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2263010/Pineapple_on_pizza/

Steam

Pineapple on pizza

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[dreamy rose]

would kinda be like those Cars shorts where they went to a dragstrip and saw the cars with outrageous speed mods and stuff.

[full fossil]

No I havent but the trailer looks great

[sharp bobcat]

[full fossil]

I'm buying the iPad Pro.

For real this time. 12.9

what will you do with it

[worn pulsar]

Adult content

[full fossil]

College note taking, second screen

And textbook replacement.

[gilded quest]

Fake

[full fossil]

No

[gilded quest]

Yes

[gilded quest]

What's the slop

[full fossil]

slop life

[vapid harness]

Is Chromecast just turn normal tv into smart?

[gilded quest]

Sort of

The new Chromecast does that effectively, it has a remote and a UI

Old Chromecast is a "target" for you to control with a phone or tablet. Example: you open YouTube on your phone (when connected to same wifi as Chromecast) and select "cast to [device name]"

[sharp bobcat]

[vapid cypress]

Sir someone uhm took a number 2 in your plate

[quartz trellis]

LOL

[quartz trellis]

Someone was not able to hold it.

[cosmic elm]

Never considered Popcorn for a side..

[full fossil]

pop!

[tired glade]

Isn't pop soft drink?

[summer folio]

searching for lava in ice

wrong chat

[fierce moth]

Ah fuck, I feel like shit

I woke up at like 3 am

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-gif-21092465

[woven star]

Literally me eating anything from a spoon

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-bread-dog-bread-gif-21171369

🥖

[harsh quartz]

if thats how you eat then you need an exorcism

[wise tundra]

Ok so my external HDD is acting up. Windows shows 94.5GB free if 111GB but when I open the drive, no files

[worn pulsar]

Open disk management and check if it has any weird partitions

Also ensure the tickbox in explorer “show hidden files” is enabled

[harsh quartz]

is windows reading it as a hdd or as an external storage device

[wise tundra]

1. it doesn't
2. this drive has worked before just fine

[worn pulsar]

Tried it in a different system?

What is the device being detected as?

Can you send a screenshot of the drive in disk management and the properties

[wise tundra]

I will not format it. My games are there

[wise tundra]

1. can't in this channel
2. it shows everything as work fine. One single partition, I ran the chkdsk and it couldn't find anything

[worn pulsar]

Create a tech support thread and we can continue there 🧵

[wise tundra]

Nah I'll figure it out

Just confused af

[worn pulsar]

Okay

[wise tundra]

Just need to get the partition fixed somehow

[sharp cradle]

you can get something like gparted-live on a usb and manage the drive better from there

im not sure what the issue tho i haven;'t been following chat

[solar stratus]

I was just gonna say get a new drive for how cheap they are nowadays

[fierce moth]

If it's just a game drive you might be better off cutting your losses and format

Or get a new drive

[sharp cradle]

okay reading chat, i would def look at using g-parted

[wise tundra]

Windows decided to crash and now the files ain't visible

I could check if OPL sees the games

[fierce moth]

It's a ps2 drive?

[carmine light]

Hey, any Baldur's Gate 3 players here? should I use Vulkan or the DX11 exe? I'm on a RTX 2080 Super, for reference

[tidal dawn]

I have heard most people say DX11 runs better.

Vulkan runs better for me but that's because I'm an Intel ARC user so that won't really apply to you lol

Vulkan also had some stability issues at launch but I think they've been fixed

You'll likely be fine using a 2080 super either way

[tired glade]

Dx11 more stable

[carmine light]

kk thanks you guys

🙏 🫂

[tired glade]

Game still getting patched,Vulkan has better performance overall

[balmy moat]

Reddit mods suck

[lucid oar]

Is LTT just not running their intro anymore?

[tired glade]

Wait, there is r/ltt?

[balmy moat]

Yeah and it's garbo most of the time anyway

[lucid oar]

What was the comment lol?

[lucid oar]

thats not even that bad? lolwut

[balmy moat]

And then the person I was talking to insulted me (thus ending the conversation) and I reported them for violating Rule 5 "Don't be a dick"

then I was banned

[lucid oar]

10/10 moderation

[tidal dawn]

Reddit should show the moderators username, kinda weird that they hide it

There would probably be less of that kinda stuff if they did

[wise tundra]

Not internal, but external

[balmy moat]

Eh, I doubt it. I can't stand power trippy mods that just ban whenever they are annoyed or don't like a viewpoint

[shell wyvern]

hg

[fierce moth]

I wouldn't bother

You're gonna get serious amounts of lag

And choppiness with fmvs

[wise tundra]

It's temporary. I've been playing it with external while waiting for the internal adapter to arrive

[fierce moth]

Cause the ps2 rocks usb 1.1 which has a max speed of 12 Mbps

Oh fair

[wise tundra]

Only issue I've had has been that Story Mode in Worms 4 doesn't work at all

[pale valve]

is there troubleshooting channel could do with a bit of help having a strange issue

[fierce moth]

If we're being honest I have my ps2 set up for network storage so I don't have to rely on an internal hdd

[wise tundra]

But my internet is so slow I can't take redownloading everything from Google Drive to the HDD

I have a 4G connection and the signal strength is -100dBm

[fierce moth]

What adapter did you pick up?

3rd party or official

[wise tundra]

Adapter? What adapter?

Oh the HDD?

I got 3rd party as I'm broke.

[fierce moth]

Fair

The official ones do tend to last longer imo, and has ethernet

[full fossil]

listen to this banger

[tidal dawn]

Starfield benchmarks are wild ☠️

4090 drops below 60fps at 4k, I am scared for my poor mid-tier GPU

[balmy moat]

I decided against buying Starfield for a number of reasons. While it seems it's well taken, there are some quality of life stuff that I feel it needs and lacks

[tidal dawn]

Granted I won't be at 4k, but 4060ti was benched at around 30fps

At 1080p

[fierce moth]

I'll stick to retro games

[vapid smelt]

1080p medium the 3050 got 27fps with out fsr

[tidal dawn]

Does the medium atleast look okay? Or does it look like garbage

Might just buy it and refund it if I can't get it playable

[vapid smelt]

I've never played so I'm not sure

[wise tundra]

Tbh I don't really need the ethernet. I was thinking about investing to the official one, but my largest IDE HDD is 40GB

[full fossil]

Afternoon ladies and mentlegen

[sonic needle]

anyone know why my fivem is so laggy if i tab in if im tabbed out its perfect if im tabbed in its on like 5 or so fps but its showing im getting 100 plus (sorry if not allowed)

[vapid smelt]

#1027757333117415424

[low rain]

Me and my friends are going to Applebees for unlimited buffalo wings and we’re gonna try to eat 220 wings

[fossil frost]

https://tenor.com/view/myfield-barren-fucks-i-give-gif-14948396

[full fossil]

Excuse me

[balmy moat]

wait you said unlimited?

[tidal dawn]

The most cursed part about that is Applebee's

I didn't even know they served wings ☠️

[full fossil]

Applebee's is only good for cheap drinks

But I guess when I'm drunk their wings probably taste good

[tidal dawn]

I think I've been to an Applebee's once in my life and I don't remember anything about it

[full fossil]

Get me drunk enough and I'm eating out of the garbage

[empty iris]

Yo is this supposed bread normal or is it Nvidia bread?

[fierce moth]

You can buy a sata conversion kit

[wise tundra]

But that costs even more money

[fierce moth]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wise tundra]

15€ = unofficial
30€ = offical
45€ = offical + SATA kit

[full fossil]

Nvidia? More like N-fuck Todd Howard you didn't add DLSS

[grand sapphire]

what if you just add it yourself

[lilac bear]

you don't get it

[full fossil]

I shouldn't have to use mods to add something that should already be there

[lilac bear]

Starfield is next gen
so only the 50 series cards can run it

[full fossil]

(I haven't actually bought the game yet I just like to shit on Bethesda)

[fierce moth]

So shut up

You can complain if you purchased the product

[full fossil]

Blow it out your ass knob

I was going to buy it

That's a factor that's making me no longer want to

[fierce moth]

Plus fsr is literally available for nvidia cards

[tidal dawn]

Does the DLSS mod that's available actually improve performance significantly over FSR?

[fierce moth]

Which is essentially the same thing as dlss

[full fossil]

"It just works"

[placid perch]

FYI, Linus' step dad eating bread

that's totally a euro russian thing

[tidal dawn]

LOL the dlss 3 mod is paywalled through patreon

[placid perch]

my italian grandparents did that

[full fossil]

What the fuck

[placid perch]

er, eating bread soaked in milk in a cup

[fossil frost]

thats what i dont get... nvidia fanboys "I WANT DLSS, because i want to be locked into nvidias eco system, rather than using FSR, which works on any card from any vendor and does exactly the same thing"

[full fossil]

The whole point of modding is that it's free

[tidal dawn]

I would bet that it probably doesn't improve performance much anyways

[fossil frost]

no, not at all, there are LOADS of paid mods for all sorts of games

counter strike is a paid mod

[full fossil]

I mean yeah

[placid perch]

this is still a bread discord right?

[full fossil]

But like mods for Bethesda games I would never pay for

That just sounds whack to me

[low rain]

I’m wanna buy ready or not it seems fun

[tidal dawn]

The patreon of the guy who made it has like 8,000 subscribers, dude is making a living on this dlss3 mod

[fossil frost]

the whole point of modding is to change the core game, however you want, there is no guarantee of price within that description

[full fossil]

More power to him I guess but I'd never buy a mod

I don't count cs it's an entirely different game

[fossil frost]

that says more about you than it does about him

[full fossil]

I don't really care

[fossil frost]

and just because you dont count CS, doesnt mean it isnt a mod

[tidal dawn]

To be fair, porting DLSS frame Gen into a game that doesn't support it can't have been an easy task

[full fossil]

Neither is making entire weapon packs with their own 3d models or new characters with animations but people don't charge for that

[fossil frost]

depends where in the pipeline that FSR is, and how FSR was done... if it was already written as an abstraction layer, it was probably "trivial" for a good programmer, in the same way that making CS from half life, was trivial for good 3D artists

[fierce moth]

Porting dlss was completely unnecessary since fucking fsr exists

[fossil frost]

unnecessary but appeals to brain dead fanboys

[tidal dawn]

I wish I could find benchmarks of this mod lol, I want to see if they are even different

[fierce moth]

Eh, I don't plan to pick up starfield yet, gotta finish mgs twin snakes first

[tidal dawn]

I just finished Bg3 and want to play Starfield pretty bad lol, just don't want to play it at 25fps

[full fossil]

Has anyone seen this man? He was last seen walking on the sun

[full fossil]

its free on game pass if theres any other games you want to play on there its a great value

[tidal dawn]

I want to retain the ability to refund the game if it doesn't work, that's my only gripe about going to gamepass

[full fossil]

lies of P comes there this month as well

i love gamepass

[fierce moth]

Gamepass requires Windows

[tidal dawn]

If I pay for gamepass it's like $20 but I'm not getting that money back if it doesn't work lol. I also like to permanently own my games

[fossil frost]

how many games do you own, how many games have you replayed more than once?

[fierce moth]

I use Linux (with Windows for any harsh anti cheat games/vr games)

[tidal dawn]

I think my steam library is about 300ish? Obviously I don't play them all regularly but there are some that I return to maybe once a year or so

[fossil frost]

so the 2 or 3 you have replayed, you could have bought, and not bought the other nearly 300

i use gamepass heavily, so do my kids, but ill still buy games i really like

[lilac bear]

my grandpa lives and breathes gamepass

[tidal dawn]

Don't get me wrong I see the value of gamepass, I just don't think it's worth it for one game, I don't really buy games very often these days

[fierce moth]

Too bad gamepass doesn't do vr games

[fossil frost]

thats because VR is a load of balls, and is this generations 3D TV

[full fossil]

That's an insane take

[timid meadow]

Nah. Vr will last wayyyyy longer then 3d did

[full fossil]

It's not a complete polished medium but it's also not going anywhere

[fierce moth]

If valve keeps their drivers available on Linux and has a decent vr experience overall I think it's gonna last a lot longer

[lilac bear]

you do know VR existed for ages, right?
unlike 3D TV

[full fossil]

i dont talk to people that main linux

[fossil frost]

limited support, only used by diehard enthusiasts, high barrier to entry, cant count on everyone having the same one that works in the same way...

[full fossil]

I'm waiting for full dive tech, put some shit in my brain stem idc

[timid meadow]

VR has the same problems Linux does. Not enough devs making cool shit because not enough users to make it for because not enough devs to make shit

[fossil frost]

3D TV existed 3 distinctly different times, and sucked every time

[full fossil]

High barrier? A quest 2 is like $300 bucks

Or $400 roughly

[lilac bear]

the Quest 2 is literally like $300 😭

[full fossil]

brb watching a 15 min tutorial on changing my wallpaper

[fierce moth]

Idk man, a lot of vr headsets use openvr which steamvr is a launcher for

[timid meadow]

pebcak

[lilac bear]

weird you counted the 3DS lol

[full fossil]

its almost like you also need a high end pc to utilize it

[fossil frost]

barrier is more than just the price

[full fossil]

No you literally don't, it runs shit on itself. It's lower res but it can run games off itself

[fossil frost]

no, im counting when they tried in the 70s, the 90s and the 2010s

[fierce moth]

Lmao, my pc has a 1050 and I have a good time

[full fossil]

Please elaborate

[full fossil]

Also $300 is still 60 Coscto Rotisserie Chickens

[lilac bear]

you don't need a RTX 4090 to run VR A

[timid meadow]

I play skyrim vr just fine on a q1 and gtx 1070

[tidal dawn]

The quest can run games perfectly fine on its own hardware, but also has the capability to link to a PC for higher end stuff

[full fossil]

I dont know i dont have vr i just assumed you did

I'm hemorrhaging brain cells right now trying to understand this argument

[fossil frost]

ELI5 how to just switch it on, and just start playing a game, like you can with any console, which is what most people would want from it

[full fossil]

Im here to help

[full fossil]

A quest is just as easy to turn on and set up, I'm not sure what you mean

[lilac bear]

that's a lie 😭

[full fossil]

Have you not actually used one?

[tidal dawn]

The experience on a quest 2 is extremely user friendly, my guy

[fierce moth]

If people want a standalone experience people will use a quest

[lilac bear]

if you're worried about food don't get any toys or tech

[full fossil]

I price everything in costco rotisserie chickens

[tidal dawn]

Me with Starfield 😭

[full fossil]

because they are delicious and more food than I can eat in one day

[lilac bear]

people out here starving themselves to play Starfield fr fr

[full fossil]

so i ask myself, is this worth x # of costco rotiesserie chickens?

[tidal dawn]

How many rotisserie chickens is a 4090

[full fossil]

Whats the retail?

on a 4090 1200?

[fossil frost]

turn it on, sign in, update, calibrate, then working out how to get new games onto it. if you think "most people" will be fine with it being anything more than "switch it on, click game", you dramatically over estimate "most people"

[tidal dawn]

I think it's probably more than that but we can roll with that number

[full fossil]

240 chickens

[full fossil]

All of that could be done by a chimp with moderate training

It walks you through everything as if you are handicapped

[fossil frost]

again, you are dramatically over estimating most humans

[fierce moth]

Heck auto sign in exists

[fierce moth]

And theres a store directly in the headset

[full fossil]

It takes like an hour at most from the time you unbox it, it is literally no more confusing or time consuming than a console. If you owned one you'd know that

[tidal dawn]

To be fair that's some pretty cheap chicken

[fierce moth]

I gotta go to a Costco at some point

[tidal dawn]

I went to a Costco for the first time in my life this year.

If you are someone who doesn't like crowded spaces it will be a bad time

I go to Sam's club a lot and the amount of people inside of Costco was STAGGERING

[full fossil]

If someone doesn't have the patience or mental capacity to set up a quest then they really should focus on legos instead of video games

[fossil frost]

my 10 year old sister has one, i set it up for her, as somebody who has spent a large amount of time with tech, it verged on "effort" to get it to "just work", where a console, you plug it in, and turn it on, which is what people want

[full fossil]

That says more about you man

I live on costco rotisserie chickens

costco in general really

I had zero problems

i take all the chicken off, put the carcas in the pressure cooker with wayer, a carrot, garlic and onion and make a very dense bone broth, that make chicken and dumpling soup with it

with plenty of chicken left over for chick/broccolie/rice with hot sauce or chicken tacos

Me after exhausting my entire mental facilities strenuously trying to set up my Quest 2

for only 5cents you could help this man

[fossil frost]

it says that on xmas day, when my 10yo sister wants her vr headset set up, and my own 11yo, 8yo and 6yo kids want their stuff set up too... the most set up that any parent wants to do is "plug it in"... and ive been a software developer for 20 years, and worked with all sorts of tech, there were several parts of the setup process where i said out loud "this isnt needed, why are they messing about like this"

[fierce moth]

There's like one Costco store in south Australia

[full fossil]

I have one on my way home from work

not only are they cheaper than anywhere else by a lot but I have their credit card where i get an additional 2-4% on all their stuff

[fierce moth]

Nice

My bloody gba has finished charging

[tidal dawn]

Costco is good if you want to buy stuff in bulk as well

[fierce moth]

65 aud a year for the base membership

[full fossil]

i get the higher end one i think its 120 but you get 2% cash back while using it

so i get all the money back easily, this is 4 months in

• I use the credit card so i get double that + more

[fierce moth]

That assumes that you spend a lot there, which wouldn't be the case for me

[full fossil]

its only worth paying a membership to shop somewhere if youd do it often for sure lol

and the 2% doesnt account for all the savings compared to a normal grocery store which has also been huge for me

everything is cheaper for me up to 20%

[fierce moth]

Fair

I'll consider getting a membership once I have my driver's license

[full fossil]

i just realized your pfp is not you but linus

also if you used windows youd probably have a license already

[fierce moth]

Mate, I'm 17

[full fossil]

when i was your age i was twice your age

[mild nova]

old man alert

[harsh quartz]

when i was 17 i had 30 years of work experience

[mild nova]

boomer alert - sound the horns - close the gates

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/toaster-time-machine-good-housekeeping-bread-toaster-time-alarm-gif-16820348

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/toadkingstudios-angry-toaster-noises-dj-twisted-toaster-toast-hopping-mad-gif-19484461

[full fossil]

poor toaster

[trim robin]

Why tf dose My gfci outlit also control my front porch outlit lmao

[solar stratus]

Mmmmm

[balmy moat]

bro what are these mods

[solar stratus]

I have a hard team believing that’s real

[full fossil]

When I was your age I had to swim through aerated water both ways to school

[solar stratus]

If it is, that’s why it’s unofficial

[balmy moat]

what? i literally just screenshotted it from my messages

[solar stratus]

That doesn’t mean anything-

[balmy moat]

What are you trying to say?

[solar stratus]

I’m not saying anything

[balmy moat]

Then be quiet

[full fossil]

They are reddit mods, what do you expect, actual adjusted human beings?

[solar stratus]

Why be quiet when you can do the opposite

[gleaming compass]

We used to have those on UseNet

[full fossil]

Reddit mods as a whole are basement dwelling grease creatures that don't understand how to actually communicate

[solar stratus]

Mhmmmm

[balmy moat]

You said "i have a hard time believing that's real" and when I questioned you, you say "im not saying anything" then just dont comment

[solar stratus]

Yes that is what I did

[rocky ravine]

ehhh this feels a bit extreme, i hope this is just satire

[full fossil]

It's not

[balmy moat]

It's not

[full fossil]

I do not like or respect most reddit mods

[gleaming compass]

mindeeloo is not your enemy here. you don't need to go on the offensive.

[full fossil]

R/shitposting is alright

[polar fern]

sigh, trying to launch an empty launch vehicle into orbit using the same launch vehicle

the staging is all janked up hehe

[gleaming compass]

@balmy moat how did you get flagged libertarian by the reddit mod?

[gleaming compass]

I would like to know what to avoid saying :P

[harsh quartz]

yall talking bad about reddit mods as if reddit itself isnt just as bad

[full fossil]

Reddit mods make the experience worse

[harsh quartz]

then get off

[tidal dawn]

Reddit isn't ALL bad, it's just like, 90% bad