public-chat

[dull granite]

?

???

[eager notch]

I like bus stuff, especially when you get the enter through the rear

[dull granite]

what do yOu mean

[dull granite]

i like busses

they're nice

better than cars for sure

busses, however, are inferior compared to trains

[full fossil]

This is not Halal

[eager notch]

Doesn't matter, im not Jewish

[full fossil]

[dull granite]

ah fuck my birthday ended 18 minutes ago

19 now

i mean 19 minutes ago

[median idol]

We have greyhounds (buses basically) and they're abysmal. As with our public transportation

[opaque tundra]

[full fossil]

America and decent public transportation are mutually exclusive

[dull granite]

america doesn't have any good public transportation

[median idol]

Even as someone who lives in the city it doesn't exist

[eager notch]

Nah but seriously, I rode the skytrain network when I was in Vancouver for LTX and it was fucking magical

[full fossil]

And none of our cities are walkable (without likely getting mugged)

[dull granite]

/advert mug

drop 5k

[neon mesa]

What's better than getting mugged? Getting the LTT mug from lttstore.com

[eager notch]

The trains on Skytrain come like every 6 minutes or some shit, the city I live in has 1 bus an hour

[dull granite]

@ admins they're breaking NRL and doing FailRP

[full fossil]

"well if you hate it here why don't you move?"

Because I'm all out of MONEY

[median idol]

@dull granite oh BTW I apologise for earlier... That was a bit uncalled for on my part

[neon mesa]

Europe isn't any better
Everything is expensive

[vestal vector]

This seems to be on topic - I'm actually dreaming of moving to the Netherlands for similar reasons

[full fossil]

I was thinking becoming a hermit in the Himalayas or something

[neon mesa]

Oh hey my home country

[vestal vector]

Live in Sweden, it's not unrealistic coming from the EU

[full fossil]

Or a Somalian pirate idc

[vestal vector]

easy move

[eager notch]

Shits expensive here in North America too

[vestal vector]

in love with that country for so many reasons

[neon mesa]

Even more in the EU

Especially if you're a PC enthusiast

[full fossil]

Every middle aged white dude like myself says they want to move to Japan but they are MEGA racist

Cool country to visit I'm sure but not to live unless you know someone

[neon mesa]

When you're on a budget and wanna build a pc in the EU or India

[idle nymph]

I wouldnt want to live in Japan tbh

[shut lichen]

Japan is a nice place to import a car from

[median idol]

Hailing from a MENA country originally, Japan does look pretty nice. Though the only conditions for me in terms of working there is it has to be for a Western company.

[shut lichen]

[eager notch]

I lived in Orlando which is a shitfest of a city and a 2 bedroom apartment where you won't be murdered in your sleep is like 1600 freedom bucks a month

[full fossil]

South Korea seems cool

[signal nexus]

you can stop the car wherever you want (killer feature)

[full fossil]

I'm originally from Florida and everything there is way over priced including rent

[neon mesa]

Gets you a 3 bedroom house in asia, for a year.

[full fossil]

Carolinas are very affordable where I'm at now

[neon mesa]

On a house isn't made of wood, sound isolated from neighbours

I still don't understand why america uses wood houses

One flame and it's all burning down

[vapid smelt]

It's all around us

[dull granite]

no lmao

[eager notch]

Nothing wrong with wood houses

[full fossil]

Log cabins are pretty cool but otherwise nah

[neon mesa]

I've seen american houses burn down so easily

[full fossil]

I would absolutely take a log cabin in the middle of the woods

Seems very chill

[neon mesa]

From a puny fire that won't hurt a concrete house

[dull granite]

yo Fionya why are you a cat

[junior tide]

steel structure gang (lets not talk about fire)

[neon mesa]

A jet

[full fossil]

We have a big bad wolf situation here

I'm a straw house enjoyer myself

[eager notch]

On the other hand, if you have a plumbing or an electrical issue, going through drywall to diagnose the issue is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than if you have to drill through concrete

[dull granite]

strawman

[junior tide]

you dont drill through concrete, there are conduits

you pull wires

[vapid smelt]

100year old Wood house survived the Maui fire, metal roof and the lava rocks and lack of plants next to the house made it invincible

[dull granite]

i ate nothing but drywall for the past three years

[neon mesa]

A very rare occurrence.
Unless your plumbing and electric system is shit in the first place

To be expected for them american wood sheds

[junior tide]

also yes very rare that you have to look at the wiring when something goes wrong in your residential electricity

[dull granite]

unabomber shed

[neon mesa]

They be selling wood sheds for 500k

[dull granite]

trees are precious

[junior tide]

allright lads back up civil engineer here

[vapid smelt]

https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/us-woman-is-addicted-to-eating-lime-off-walls-despite-doctors-warning-of-cancer-4373891.html

[neon mesa]

I've seen the argument of using wood being cost.
But i think material cost is the least of your worries there

[junior tide]

someone tell her she can buy bags

[dull granite]

literally me

[opaque tundra]

mood

[shut lichen]

not so rare in america where their regulations for such things are shit

[neon mesa]

Considering they use shitty Type A plugs I'm not surprised

Type E best plug

[shut lichen]

Type I > all

[junior tide]

let me take a look at the code for US because EU code is nice if applied

[vapid smelt]

And better for earthquakes

[neon mesa]

Oh actually i mean type F

[dull granite]

i don't know plumbing

[full fossil]

Sorry that was me my bad 💀

[dull granite]

you're such a silly goober

[neon mesa]

They literally fold like a tower of card
Also counterpoint, japan.

[eager notch]

Changing the temperature in a concrete house takes a lot more energy than using wood framed houses,

Plus concrete production produces about half as much CO2 as every car and truck in the world

[hollow oyster]

the rich dont care about the environment

so why should we?

[junior tide]

japan code is strict as fuck for concrete and they dont have a lot of land so they build higher, almost all high buildings have some sort of seismic isolation

[dusky sail]

yes no?

[shut lichen]

wood absolutely is not better for earthquakes

properly engineered steel and concrete > wood

[shut lichen]

what is this meant to be for

[eager notch]

I mean not really,

I do agree our plugs are crap, A and B plugs are terrible, but the electrical systems of our houses aren't inherently bad if installed correctly, like I think in the 25 years I've lived in the house I do, I've only had to have an electrician come out once and that was to add some outlets outside my house

[vapid smelt]

Idk being able to flex and sway helps allot

[dusky sail]

https://tenor.com/view/please-no-questions-lily-tomlin-frankie-bergstein-grace-and-frankie-no-questions-whatsoever-gif-17596439

[junior tide]

steel does that too, good luck spanning 35 meters with wood

[shut lichen]

as a non american, the american electrical standards are absolute shit

[shut lichen]

then yes

[vapid smelt]

But that's expensive

[neon mesa]

Plus if you're not in earthquake prone zone, it's a no worry

[junior tide]

well you dont have to span 35 meters for a house anyway im just stating facts

[neon mesa]

I think fire would be a way bigger risk than earthquake

Wood house burn like nothing

[junior tide]

steel lasts literally forever if maintained properly

[neon mesa]

Concrete house is almost fire proof

[junior tide]

in a fire things get a bit weird

[eager notch]

Yeah, no one spans 35 meters because meters are one of those commie measurements.

[vapid smelt]

Idk these mcmansions are getting crazy

[shut lichen]

you can literally walk into home depot or wherever and buy an extension chord that isn't capable of handling the current of a standard outlet, and isn't fused for whatever it is supposedly able to handle.

[junior tide]

its not the concrete that burns

[neon mesa]

There's a lot less points for fire to burn in a concrete house

[junior tide]

there are ways to do it with concrete too

[eager notch]

That's what circuit breakers are for...

[junior tide]

pretension and post tension to get longer span with less concrete

[vapid smelt]

And glass houses

[neon mesa]

A small fire that would be a no risk to concrete house can pretty much burn down a wood house

[shut lichen]

did you not read what I said?

[eager notch]

I did and I was disagreeing

[shut lichen]

an extension chord that can't handle the maximum current of a standard outlet.

[junior tide]

we recently restored a 70 year old factory building, just sandblasted and painted the whole thing and it came out like brand new
steel lasts forever if maintained properly

[neon mesa]

Also, wood houses when termite

[shut lichen]

breakers aren't meant to (and don't) protect a random undersized chord plugged into the outlet

[junior tide]

im biased i just like steel a lot

[eager notch]

It also rusts.
Have you ever seen a rusted wood beam?

I THINK NOT!

[shut lichen]

breakers protect against overcurrent in a circuit.

[junior tide]

literally why i said "if maintained properly"

[shut lichen]

not outside of the circuit

[neon mesa]

Rust is surface level defect mostly also

While wood... Gets ruined way more easily

[junior tide]

correct, if you let a structural member rust all the way through thats on you

[shut lichen]

wood rots.

[vapid smelt]

Come on honey it's time to oil our house

[neon mesa]

Idk how you can possibly let steel rust all the way through anyway
You have to TRY for it to happen

[junior tide]

shop primer on the steel + 2 layers of epoxy paint = no rust

[eager notch]

But it doesn't rust

[junior tide]

you dont oil it you fucking paint it

[shut lichen]

and neither does a painted steel beam

[vapid smelt]

Paint it black with your used motor oil, reduce reuse recycle

[shut lichen]

or galvanised steel framing

[junior tide]

could actually work if you can get it to adhere somehow

[neon mesa]

Thick, sturdy, sound isolating, fire resistant, rot resistant.
Steel reinforced concrete just has way more benefit than wood sheds

[junior tide]

now we are talking

[eager notch]

Paint comes off of steel really easily though, you need to powder coat it if your want it to actually last

[junior tide]

steel acts weird in fires though

[junior tide]

epoxy paint

[shut lichen]

do it fucking does not when done properly lol

[neon mesa]

You'd have to fuck up real bad if you let a fire big enough to mess with the metal in a concrete house

[junior tide]

nah nah im talking about full steel structures

[neon mesa]

While in a wood house, even tiny ass fire is a risk

What kind of house is entirely steel though

[junior tide]

steel framing type stuff

[neon mesa]

That seems, expensive

[junior tide]

well not really

[shut lichen]

drywall and insulation are pretty good fire fuel

[eager notch]

No it's not. Drywall isn't flammable

[vapid smelt]

Fiber glass and rock wool insolation

[junior tide]

XPS sheet

[shut lichen]

difference with a galvanised steel frame, is that it is a whole lot less likely to fall on you while burning

[neon mesa]

The wood inside it is

[junior tide]

good luck setting fire to XPS

[neon mesa]

And drywall still gets damaged by fire

[vapid smelt]

So is carpet in a concrete house

[junior tide]

ok lets build LTT bunker

[fathom kindle]

heat, not fire

[neon mesa]

Where do the heat come from, fire

[fathom kindle]

friction

[junior tide]

wyd to the drywall

[vapid smelt]

Energy

[eager notch]

THAT'S WHY THERE'S NON-FLAMMABLE DRYWALL IN FRONT OF IT....

Fires don't start inside walls, they mostly start in the kitchen

[junior tide]

chill

[vapid smelt]

We even have anti mold drywall

[junior tide]

every type of structure has its use, pros and cons

[neon mesa]

I've seen enough videos of american houses litting up like christmas trees under shit small fires to believe otherwise

[junior tide]

you build with what you have near your area

[neon mesa]

Wrong reply

[shut lichen]

Fires don't start inside walls

tell that to the many, many, old houses with electrical issues that burn down

[neon mesa]

BingGPT, also "fire damage is due to intense fire heat"
Sounds like the same damn thing

[junior tide]

eh i build factories what the hell do i know about residential

[vapid smelt]

https://youtu.be/CdItsso3ur0?feature=shared dont get a house with spray foam insulation

[junior tide]

we dont do 220V or 110V, we do 34500V

[marble geyser]

I’m putting a transformer before the mains power comes into my house and stepping it up to 120,000,000V. I will not be stopped.

[eager notch]

That's because people don't take videos of houses not on fire.

Oh look, a house NOT on fire, how interesting!!!

[neon mesa]

There are cctv footage of house fire starting...

[junior tide]

like the approach

[neon mesa]

And a lot of them start over tiny fire that wouldn't scratch a concrete house

[hot tartan]

Do it

[neon mesa]

While it spreads like covid on wood ones

[fathom kindle]

heat generated by the fire, not the fire itself

[neon mesa]

That's just fire damage with semantics

[junior tide]

its gonna jump and frigin kill u

[marsh carbon]

Everything is flamable if you try hard enough

[neon mesa]

It's like saying the bullet didn't kill, the organs splitting apart did

[plush trellis]

Hi people

[marsh carbon]

I lost my bread

[junior tide]

there is this weird fucking material i saw they used in some massive steel blast furnaces, white cotton looking ass thing, they tried to burn it with acetylene torch for an hour straight, it didnt even go black and stayed completely white

[neon mesa]

asbestos

[junior tide]

no no no

i'll take some pictures of the thing when im at work

[vapid smelt]

Rock wool?

[junior tide]

not sure, could be

actually i think i have some pics

[eager notch]

Probably Kaowool

https://www.homedepot.com/p/48-in-x-16-in-x-1-2-in-Kaowool-Blanket-9451/317055180

[junior tide]

yep this is it

[vapid smelt]

We need plastic houses

[eager notch]

Forbidden cotton candy

[vapid smelt]

Lemon flavored

[hollow knot]

Heyy chat

😘

[eager notch]

Ah yes, then you'd get to replace the outside of your house after 3 years after the plastic becomes brittle!

[hollow knot]

What if there is a fire. You are going to get shrink wrapped in molten plastic 💀

[vapid smelt]

Into a statue"

[vapid smelt]

Idk them outside toy house and rubber made sheds last awhile

[eager notch]

Although, if we had massive 3d printers, we just print ya a new house!!!

[vapid smelt]

3d print bricks and roof shingles

[eager notch]

No, Lego house!

[vapid smelt]

Yes!

https://youtu.be/1ltFpT-eRkM?feature=shared

[eager notch]

Ah yes, Mr May

[pure olive]

I'd do that

[graceful mortar]

Just build it out of glass. Whole thing.

[graceful mortar]

Is that the one with the random pink block?

[past egret]

the 3 most interesting people, in the world

[graceful mortar]

"Your cheese done slid off your freaking cracker!" - still my favorite southern insult.

[graceful mortar]

....... In the world.
Fixed it for you.

[past egret]

everything they do is the most entertaining thing ever and i cant understand why

[graceful mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/top-gear-james-may-fail-chair-ouch-gif-4989350

[graceful mortar]

His serious stuff is OUT OF THIS WORLD!

https://youtu.be/QwHnVH9jWmU?si=NGjvZA0ckCaXqrJl

Mays are weird. And Hammond's are a bit too playful for me.

[past egret]

JC is absolutely incredible, i loved his motorworld series so much

my dad also loved it

its probably what got him into cars

im still finishing the entirety of top gear and its great

and then clarksons farm is also a lot of fun to watch as his more casual role

[graceful mortar]

One of his very best

Mixing up the medicine
I’m on the pavement
Thinking about the government```

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_1LNZhNz8PY

[graceful mortar]

a muscle car. A metal metaphor for America 🤌

[past egret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ax4LvUJ0sY

[lyric sphinx]

Isn't American steel the literal metal embodiment of America

[graceful mortar]

There was even a version for your delinquent drag racing brother 😍🤩

[past egret]

lots of analogies in the show

[graceful mortar]

Exactly and in 1964.5 it was the mustang.

As noted and as far as I'm aware despite it only being available in North America brand new. It is still the fastest selling single nameplate car of all time.

[graceful mortar]

The number of times I get "but why" over and over again I have to send people this for them to truly understand.

[past egret]

i put it in an essay about electric cars

for school obviously

not that i hate electric cars but nothing beats petrol cars in terms of pure passion

[graceful mortar]

That's the thing! I need something exciting and you can't be heavy AND exciting it doesn't work.

We're not Germany we don't have autobahn's where you can stretch the legs all the time where power matters more than weight.

A car has to be relevant in the city at low speeds.

[full fossil]

no

[graceful mortar]

For instance. Bolt EV. Close REAL close. But Chuck it into a corner and power up and it tries to just absolutely emulsify it's inside tire.

[graceful mortar]

So close to being the first truly FUN EV. And the borked it up

Chevrolet performance is one of the best chassis teams in the entire industry. Next time just go knock on their door please. 🤦

[past egret]

at least theyre trying to make EVs fun and appealing

with the mach e and rimac

but no reasonably priced fun EVs yet

and no star in it

doesnt rhyme

[graceful mortar]

America, not Japan, not Germany, made the fastest front-wheel drive car on the nurburgring in 2008. Beating Renault with their cheater plastic window race car for the road Megane. That car?

Cobalt SS Turbocharged. And you could buy one even with every single option ticked for $26,000 only $3,000 more than a civic SI.

You could get it with a Qualife front differential from the factory, you could order it with Ricardo seats. Hell it even came with a performance display in place of its a pillar mounted boost gauge.

Then they had 3 stage kits. With stage 3 being full race ready and able to accept a 50 shot of nitrous. Stage 2 made 280 wheel horsepower and 350 lb ft of torque.... In a car that weighed 2,700 lb! 🤯🤯🤯

[jaunty compass]

I just got something pretty nice

I picked up an EVGA 1060 for $60

[gilded quest]

ngl i thought it was an SLI bridge at first

[olive stump]

Back when GPUs weren’t horrifically big

[pale osprey]

lot of bullshit in this

[jaunty compass]

It's a single fan 1060

I needed a GPU for a spare pc and haggled the guy down from 75

[graceful mortar]

I mean the rimac yeah.
Mach e. Too heavy doesn't turn in properly hates large transitions. Perpetually sold out. And for the good one, 70 grand?? Really

Now I will say the moose test is far from perfect. However it still gives you relevant information.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2PTOBc883zg

[vapid smelt]

gtx 1060 3gb, 5gb, 6gb, 6gb gddr5x, mining only version or the 1060 6GB 9Gbps ?

[olive stump]

Do Americans have the Polestar yet? That looks like a solid EV

[graceful burrow]

north or south americans

[olive stump]

BMW X1 is also a solid EV that doesn’t look like an EV

[olive stump]

Por que no los dos?

[past egret]

i saw the polestar the other day

[graceful burrow]

it was a genuine question, thanks for being an ass ig

[olive stump]

Oh lmao, north

[jaunty compass]

One of the 6 gig models

[graceful mortar]

I mean ya. For 7,500 hrs worth of work.

[jaunty compass]

I believe 6gb gddr5

[vapid smelt]

Narrows it down to 4

[olive stump]

OOF okay then

[graceful mortar]

This one? I don't see an EV option for us.

[olive stump]

Yeah, hang on lemme get on my PC and find it

[past egret]

its the i1

[olive stump]

It comes in gas and EV

[past egret]

the i series is their EV series

[pale osprey]

@graceful mortar the cobalt ss turbo never was available with recaros it weighed 2950 not 2700 and the performance display is 2010 only and optional so some cars from 1 year had them and they never had any stage 3 kit or stage 2 kit or nitrous. those kits are for a much slower version of the ss with none of the stuff that makes the turbo model fast and they dont bump it up to 280whp-350tq it gets it to 241whp and similar in tq which is actually lower than the stock turbo model numbers of 260hp/260tq

[lyric sphinx]

Your mom is my ev series

I am sorry for that

[past egret]

mean

real mean that

[olive stump]

Might be i1 but I’m pretty sure I saw it here called the X1, looks the same as an X series BMW

[olive stump]

No you’re not

[past egret]

it should be the I series since its their only EV line and looks the same as the X

[graceful mortar]

This is the NA electric line up

[past egret]

the iX?

oh the iX1

[olive stump]

Yeah no it is the iX, they have the iX1 and the iX3

Same chasis as the X1, my bad

[past egret]

so we were both right

[olive stump]

Blame my undercaffinated ass

[past egret]

lol

[pale osprey]

source: ive owned 9 cobalts over the last 15 years

[lyric sphinx]

Mutually assured correctness

[olive stump]

For like, suburban driving only need the ~430km of range

[lyric sphinx]

That seems like an excessive amount

[pale osprey]

i currenly own 3

[olive stump]

The whole "we need EVs to be at least 400mil range otherwise people will stress out about range" craze is insane to me

[graceful mortar]

Oh yeah that's right supercharged got the nitrous option. Turbo had stage 1 which brought it up to 280/330 if my memory serves correctly.

[graceful mortar]

Did you see my post the other day about why? Like the number doesn't matter let me see if I can find the post

[pale osprey]

because you dont drive alot

[graceful mortar]

Here, its aparently loud #public-chat message

[vapid smelt]

https://www.deseret.com/2013/9/23/20526064/about-utah-no-bull-no-service-for-106-miles unless you drive through Utah 160km road with no service

[olive stump]

I've done 17,000kms so far this year, I drive a lot

[olive stump]

I vaguely remember it and I 100% agree

[pale osprey]

ive done 45k this year and having an ev would be a nightmare

[vapid smelt]

280miles range would be a comfortable number for me

[olive stump]

Right but like, EVs aren't really for the sort of cross country professional driving some folks do? If you're a suburban dad who goes the average 30ish miles to work and back each day, an EV is perfect

[pale osprey]

i did 2800km in 1 weekend from aug 18th-21st

[olive stump]

"This EV can't take me from New York to the Carolinas and back twice a week like my work demands so all EVs are shit" is a fucking insane take

[vapid smelt]

A lot of USA families drive to their destination for holidays even if the drive is over 14 hours

[olive stump]

My parents say the same thing, who live on a farm, like no shit EVs don't suit their sort of driving

[lyric sphinx]

I think a lot of it is a fear of inconvenience

[olive stump]

A lot of American families also own a second car, which would probably end up being the one they take on road trips

[lyric sphinx]

I don't typically drive more than 50 miles a day but on occasion will have to drive a lot

That 1 percent worries people

[olive stump]

Which...is insane

[vapid smelt]

Battery degradation is also a small factor of wanting a ev with allot of range

[lyric sphinx]

But if I have to drive typically I get a car from the vehicle pool

[jaunty compass]

We'd semi regularly drive 22 hours to visit family in NYC

[lyric sphinx]

We have Tesla's there now

[olive stump]

I also have a whole thing about car culture in general and the lack of public transport. I'm a car guy but holy Jesus trains are awesome too

[jaunty compass]

He loves bread

[vapid smelt]

No thank you

[pale osprey]

not really. its not insane to want to have the exact same driving expirence no matter how you use your car

[graceful mortar]

Yeah so the problem is is what the number in theory represents.
My bigger issue is EVs are so efficient manufacturers can really gain the EPA numbers. At least the main number that's advertised.
For instance when you compare the ionic five versus six people think they're extremely similar but then you find out the 6 is 20% more efficient where range actually matters (in the US).

[lyric sphinx]

The biggest problem is trying to adapt one vehicle to every customer

[graceful mortar]

A 100 kilowatt battery pack has the energy capacity equivalent to 3 gallons of gasoline. It's insane how efficient they are with energy usage.

The flip side of that is what we've seen with the new EV trucks and towing.

.8 mile per KWH

[lyric sphinx]

Ah yes numbers

[vapid smelt]

I hate how people want SUVs so we get 5,000 pound ev SUVs with poor efficiency

[lyric sphinx]

Bring back hot hatches

[olive stump]

It's insane to expect the exact same thing from a new, relativity undeveloped engine/powertrain type vs. one that's been around and refined over 100 years

[lyric sphinx]

Gimme a sleek station wagon

I'm talking a modern Caprice wagon

[olive stump]

Oh I hate SUVs in general, most folk who own them will only ever transport 1 person 99.95% of the time

[graceful mortar]

So this trend is starting to die about the two car home because of the prices being so high right now.

Very rarely will you see somebody with let's say a average F-150 pickup truck off the lot right around $70,000. That would be the road trip vehicle.

Not many families are going to be able to afford yet another 50 to 70 grand on the secondary vehicle.

The ones you're talking about typically we would see something like a Civic or a Corolla or a fusion paired with a truck and the total cost of both those even when new is well under $100,000.

[lyric sphinx]

Also 99 percent of the population does not need 500hp

[vapid smelt]

My car gets 24mpg but my tires cost $65 per unlike evs 😎

[lyric sphinx]

Bring back cushy tires

[olive stump]

You know what, fair point yeah I can see that trend dying. I think the 2nd hand car market will buffet that a bit tho

[lyric sphinx]

Sexy ass air suspension

[olive stump]

There was an Ars technica article arguing exactly this last week 😅

[lyric sphinx]

I mean they ride better

[graceful mortar]

If we had a charging network that straight up just worked like it's supposed to was plug and charge tap to pay etc these problems would not be so huge.
But because there's no accountability in the wild West of the charger market I mean I posted how much it cost to DC fast charge out here $0.60 a kilowatt hour You're only saving $10 per fill up to drive the same distance over an ICE.
But often times the same size ICE is at least half the cost if not a third of the cost.

[lyric sphinx]

People can't drive anyway and curb their wheels

[lyric sphinx]

How many Teslas have you seen with non curbed wheels it's like an Altima without body damage

It's a unicorn

You know a fun fact about unicorns

[thin fjord]

they poop rainbows?

[graceful mortar]

Oh this so much. Bring back 75 series side walls on 15s because these roads are not made for these 35 and 45 series tires!

[olive stump]

The lack of standards and regulations around EV public chargers is actually insane. The problem is a lot worse in Aus too

[vapid smelt]

And they always over estimate what they can fit in the trunk! Like no Becky I can't fit this dresser in your rav4

[lyric sphinx]

They are all horny

[thin fjord]

what

[thin fjord]

oh 💀

[vapid smelt]

Then I have customers that put the front seats as far forward as they so they hug the steering wheel to fit a large piece of furniture in their SUV

[graceful mortar]

Yeah apparently we're going to all move to this North America charging standard. Which could potentially set us behind the rest of the world when it comes to their innovations in chargers. (Lots of ifs)

My bigger issue as I've harped on time and time again is advertised charging speed versus actual realized charging speed.

Vehicle is 100% in a condition to do 350 kW fast charging and you show up at the charger and you're being limited to 40 or 50... So now instead of a 12 to 15 minute stop you're talking about what 2-3 hrs? All for .60/ kWh 🤦

[lyric sphinx]

And we are not going to talk about Tesla getting caught lying about range

[vapid smelt]

Most of Tesla's marketing lies

[lyric sphinx]

I do this in my pilot I can fit a 4x8 sheet of plywood

[gilded quest]

Tesla was lying? I am shocked

[vapid smelt]

Just pray you don't crash and the airbag goes off

[solid bramble]

Shocker!

[lyric sphinx]

I did once fit two 16 foot sections of goat fence in the back of my pilot

[lyric sphinx]

I was not actually that close

[restive lion]

Mmmm I sure do love completely ignoring safety

[lyric sphinx]

It's just a recommendation

[vapid smelt]

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety reports that roughly 10 inches or further is an optimal distance between a driver and their steering wheel, due to the amount of power that an airbag can produce when it deploys

[pure olive]

[restive lion]

I too love getting sucker punched by the airbag

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-eating-eat-bread-gif-18457160

[lyric sphinx]

I prefer 66 inches

[thin fjord]

would

[graceful mortar]

I made it very clear I have a soft spot for the departed bolt EV.
19,995 was THE price to be at. For a commuter car. 100% a second car in the driveway, save money on commute proposition.

Now that she's gone, cheapest EV general motor snakes $45,000 blazer EV.

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, shame it’s a Chevy bolt, kind of nullifies the good things about it

[vapid smelt]

I would like the new Prius

[harsh quartz]

Any of the hybrid Toyotas would be great atm

[graceful mortar]

I like it. And that's a huge deal (based on how detail focused I am.)

I would automatically have to hop into the plug-in hybrid which puts me in the 40s but. 🤷 a Prius that handles and is designed by aerodynamics not rear seat headroom 🤌🤌

[graceful mortar]

Sadly all the good ones have a two to three year waiting list currently and no price protection guarantee.

[vapid smelt]

I just like how it's a hatch back has good fuel economy and is AWD

[lyric sphinx]

Headroom is key for me I got a long torso and stubby legs

[harsh quartz]

Or you can just buy a used one that has like 10k miles on it, it’s just as good

[graceful mortar]

The 220hp one is sadly FWD only.

[vapid smelt]

Ffs

[harsh quartz]

Just get a rav4 instead

[lyric sphinx]

Yeah but used car market is dumb and last Prius was so slow

[olive stump]

You seen the technology connections video about NA switching to the NACS charger?
There's definitely some open questions around the charge rate and what Tesla claims vs what it actually does

[vapid smelt]

Oh the AWD Prius prime is plenty fast for me

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, I mean it has the electric motors for 0-60

[graceful mortar]

The AWD one is 196hp but still rated at 50 mpg. So 70-80% of that actual if you live in a big city that does 80-85

[graceful mortar]

It's like 60+ after markup. (Rav4 prime)

[lyric sphinx]

That is the other thing most people don't need AWD in their daily driver

[vapid smelt]

I just hate being the slow merger on the highway so a 9s or less 0-60 is what i look for 😂

[graceful mortar]

Facts. This is the first Prius I can go around a corner properly.

Hell the most recent Camry refresh was the first Camry that was also capable.

[harsh quartz]

Do I need it every day? No, is it useful if I ever get stuck in snow or lose traction, which has legitimately happened multiple times, yea, it’s very nice to have

[lyric sphinx]

You mean a brick does not have good handling

[vapid smelt]

Hey they had V6 camrys

[harsh quartz]

I mean this is a good thing

[lyric sphinx]

Right but a lot of people who live in let's say California and have never gone to snow or see snow it's not necessarily

[loud drum]

<@&1141585015554191360>

[fallow trench]

I’m a sucker for Audi, the RS3 hatchback, RS6 and R8 r bloody masterpieces

[graceful mortar]

So Tesla claims 250 kW charging but that's at 400 volts so assuming they upgrade their chargers to be dual voltage you can double that KW at 800 volts with the same exact physical wire.

However if they don't as I have been saying that means your ionic 5 will only charge it half of its listed rating because it's an 800 volt architecture.

[harsh quartz]

I want a v6 rav4

[vapid smelt]

My fwd pretty light Oldsmobile does ok in the snow as long as I have no hill to go up

[harsh quartz]

Also fair, but it’s also useful for freshly graveled roads or in big rainstorms

[graceful mortar]

I think it kind of depends on where you live. And need is different than more comfortable with.

I've done real-wheel drive in Fairbanks Alaska and she'd ice it's fine just make sure you get proper tires.

But people sweat the small non-monthly transactions so they try to go out there with all seasons and wonder why they wrapped it around a pole....

[olive stump]

Yeah, the technology connections guy has an ionic 5 and called this out exactly. tbf I don't see Tesla upgrading it's supercharger network in any rush to meet the 800v standard

[lyric sphinx]

Which California does not often get and it doesn't help when all 4 summer tires they have are 5 years old and bald

[vapid smelt]

My new coworker moved from Cali to Utah and now regrets getting his rear wheel drive ford ranger 😂

[lyric sphinx]

Lol

[harsh quartz]

Idk, if Tesla sees a potential profit in it then they probably will

[graceful mortar]

Which were definitely fast in straight line I mean the 2006 SE is claimed to do 140+ and 0-60 in 6.5. The handling always left something to be desired though.

You couldn't lift mid corner to get the nose to talk properly.

[graceful mortar]

Oh you can still get them They just carry a premium on the used market.

[lyric sphinx]

One thing AWD does for most drivers is give them more confidence then they should have cause AWD does not help you stop better

[vapid smelt]

Every V8 Toyota SUV cost over $15 grand even if it's from 2006

[lyric sphinx]

Not if you get it salvage

[graceful mortar]

Which were not only affect Hyundai and Kia it will also affect the general motors. Idk what Ford charges at

[harsh quartz]

No but it does help with traction, especially when pulling out from a dead stop, the amount of times I had my dads Kia optima spin it’s tires on rainy days, my AWD never spins, which is very nice

[graceful mortar]

Tires tires tires. Blizzak, or the new Michelin X snow.

[vapid smelt]

So many Subaru drives here in Utah go the speed limit when it's snowing (70mph) while the regular people go 40-50

[vapid smelt]

Lots of sandbags in the bed too

[olive stump]

I think most EVs run at 800v and Teslas are kind of the outlier

[lyric sphinx]

Right but for the average driver they think it make them invincible

[loud drum]

What about that one BMW that had a 12 cylinder

[graceful mortar]

Yep. 100%.

Bear in mind I lived in a town where the legitimate answer for why they drove through the red light that they would give not only officers but people that they hit

was because they had all seasons and if they tried to stop, if they were able to stop. they wouldn't have been able to get going again...... And they would say that with a straight face

[harsh quartz]

That can be said about any car and any driver tho

[lyric sphinx]

People are inherently stupid

I mean throttle control goes a long way too

[vapid smelt]

I'm not into Bwm so I don't notice

[lyric sphinx]

If you are driving in a place like that with all seasons you probably should not be driving

[graceful mortar]

You have to be careful with sandbags because although they increase traction on the axle it also creates a pendulum effect if you start to slide.

For that reason alone I do not like sandbags as a traction adder. It's fine to have a bag in case you get stuck and need to basically build a road but otherwise.

False sense of security.

[olive stump]

When you remove community spaces, and prioritise private transport people on mass act less as a cohesive community and more selfishly

[graceful mortar]

90's 850Li like Hannond bought on the cheap lux car challenge

[vapid smelt]

Yeah but since it's a small rwd truck he has no weight in the back so idk

[lyric sphinx]

If he gets some snow tires it will probably be fine

Mostly

[graceful mortar]

Yeah but some electronic throttles nowadays are super aggressive for no reason and then you're relying on the traction control which just doesn't get people going like they want to. Which then means they push the pedal harder and it just makes the situation worse.

[graceful mortar]

They don't care. It's that me me me mindset

[lyric sphinx]

And don't forget there are usually at least two levels of traction control in cars now days

[harsh quartz]

Or you can just have AWD

[graceful mortar]

Still tires man. Like 100% tires tires tires and not just some all seasons that have a snowflake actual studless winter tires.

Good all seasons with snowflake 54 ft 12 to 0 on ice. Blizzak's 12 ft.

[lyric sphinx]

Just pushing it once does not actually turn it off you have to hold it down till it dings

[pliant karma]

I have 6 15lbs sand bags and 3 C-Stands in my trunk regardless. Although they're used often when the filming location forgets more sand bags so I can pull mine sout

[graceful mortar]

I personally find the problems a bit worse there. The number of times that I've gotten a car to axle hop both axles from a stop on the snow is ridiculous. And I don't mean just a little thumping I mean violent like you have to get out and look underneath and make sure you didn't break something in half.

This is something that tends to happen with all seasons.

[lyric sphinx]

New video

[graceful mortar]

On a lot of modern cars they won't even give you the option to do that.

[lyric sphinx]

Yeah they do you have to know the trick

[harsh quartz]

Ngl, I’ve been watching a lot less YT since this all started, I’ve been watching a lot of other services

[graceful mortar]

I do like this AWD system ALOT. Once you figure out what buttons you have to press and then what combinations to get it to do what you want.

But sadly it immediately runs into ground clearance issues in the snow.

It took me about 7 or 8 minutes trying to get this guy unstuck that I didn't really want to pull because of the plastic bumpers but I was able to ultimately drive the car out which considering how stuck it was was a little bit impressive.

[lyric sphinx]

You push it once and it "turns it off" but still won't let tires spin if you then hold it down for about 30 seconds it dings and actually turns off

[graceful mortar]

You're talking about Toyota's 'pedal dance' that also disables ABS and the electronic brake distribution?

And on many modern cars off is not actually off. It's just less intrusive.

[lyric sphinx]

I do it in all my rental cars so I can do sweet burnouts

Well my Avalon it's just one button but there are two levels most Subarus as well

[graceful mortar]

Yeah that's disabling ESC. There's still a lot of protections in place, every manufactures a bit different for slip allowed.

For a while there Toyota you didn't even have a button to press. My 2008 es350 was like that.

[full fossil]

Literally 1984.

[graceful mortar]

Your options were leave it on. Or shut the vehicle down, turn it back on do the pedal dance to force it into diagnostic mode and lose all ABS and electronic brake distribution.

[arctic kernel]

Am i the only one itching for a LTT quest 3 video

🥹😅

[vapid smelt]

No because I will never buy a Facebook product

[amber cradle]

Yeah no that's why some of the schools just have a copy of the license on a network drive everyone has access to for 600 a month.

Or something like that

When I was finishing up highschool they explained to me that it was Photoshop but they only paid for a single license and everyone had access via their school logins on each PC in the school.

[past egret]

thats what my old workplace did

[amber cradle]

I loved crashing those things with the smudge tool

[past egret]

except for maya

they had a deal with autodesk

and also nuke

everything but adobe really

[amber cradle]

Easiest way to blue screen a school PC was the flick of the wrist and the smudge tool in Photoshop.

[lyric sphinx]

What about the Excel breakout game

I think it was excel

[amber cradle]

I don't even know what that is

[graceful burrow]

it's Breakout but in excel

[amber cradle]

I used Excel for spreadsheets but I didn't know you could play breakout?!

[graceful burrow]

dude people have put raytracers into excel

[amber cradle]

[graceful burrow]

https://github.com/s0lly/Raytracer-In-Excel

[past egret]

a dude draws in excel and sells them

[lyric sphinx]

Yeah there was an Easter egg back in the early 2000s that would have a game you can play

[olive stump]

https://www.404media.co/activists-petition-government-for-right-to-hack-mcdonalds-mcflurry-machines-to-repair-them/

Incredible

[past egret]

https://youtu.be/OrwBc6PwAcY?si=7hqKwMCO0IBnBdbe

[harsh quartz]

Oh shit they added ray tracing to eve online?

[graceful mortar]

AWESOME use of you new checks and balances!

whoops that was for the new video!

[stray fog]

oh shiiii new video

[mental mortar]

Ltt should make a e-ink steam deck

[full fossil]

oh new ltt video

about a goofy monitor

[stray fog]

I remember seeing a bts video of LTX where the writer that had to daily drive the monitor while preparing the video talked about how god awful it was

[full fossil]

hmm

[graceful mortar]

yep adam!

[chrome vector]

mfw the mods try to take away out bread 🍞

[past egret]

no steppies

[chrome vector]

You take the bread, you get the dead. 🍞

[past egret]

there are now so many versions of this flag it has lost all meaning

[spice pine]

never really had one

[past egret]

true

[chrome vector]

Lies.

[olive stump]

no step on snek

[crisp sedge]

Hi

[full fossil]

hai :3

[crisp sedge]

How you?

[full fossil]

gud

[crisp sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/exciting-riveting-telus-frog-ribbit-gif-25392125

[full fossil]

embed moment

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/exciting-riveting-telus-frog-ribbit-gif-25392125

[crisp sedge]

I lost my bread role

[full fossil]

:<

[crisp sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/axolotl-smile-happy-cute-animal-smiling-gif-12642274

[full fossil]

does the message react do nothing anymore either?

[graceful burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[crisp sedge]

Nope

[graceful burrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/375436621450969089/1142312437769584710/embreadfail.gif

[crisp sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-eat-cat-swallow-cat-gif-24309828

[full fossil]

ugh my left ear is terrible

[crisp sedge]

Why

[full fossil]

need to get that checked out with a doc

idk whats causing it, its very quiet and very sensitive

[native mountain]

hello

[crisp sedge]

No

[native mountain]

-_-

[full fossil]

Hi kitty :3

[native mountain]

hiiii

[full fossil]

mrauw

[native mountain]

how are u

[full fossil]

am gud enough

just mad that my left ear is not good at all today

[vapid smelt]

Maybe a bug is in it

[full fossil]

its mainly my headset causing it
any headset
regardless of pan or if its on or not

[crisp sedge]

No

[native mountain]

hope it heals 🎀

[crisp sedge]

Get ear wax melting liquid

[full fossil]

:(
i have an appointment this friday with my neurologist so maybe i can bring it up with them and see if they can refer me to someone else

[full fossil]

uhh
elaborate?

[crisp sedge]

I once got my ear completed muted by ear wax, my doc, gave me this liquid you’d pour into your ear, and keep it in for 10 mins, after a week of doing it, he removed the wax

Do you use swabs?

[native mountain]

hmm my ear sometimes hurts after using a headset for too long

it might not be earwax related

[full fossil]

i only use my headset for about 30 mins at most

[crisp sedge]

I use iems

[full fossil]

i always have it clean so yeah

[crisp sedge]

At 20% volume max

[harsh quartz]

It’s probably just a hydrogen peroxide solution

[crisp sedge]

Idk

[vapid smelt]

.... Do you use qtips

[full fossil]

my headset is at like 10% volume rn

[harsh quartz]

Typically it’s a low percentage hydrogen peroxide solution

[crisp sedge]

Idk

[harsh quartz]

The whole “don’t use Qtips” thing makes no sense

[crisp sedge]

How so?

It pushed ear wax down my ear and hardened it

And I went deaf in that ear

[native mountain]

i think it depends on the technique lol

[vapid smelt]

You end up pushing ear wax down your ear no matter what and if you go too far you touch the drum

[harsh quartz]

You don’t just push in against the ear drum, and you don’t use them while the ear wax is solid, you use a solution and gently spin the qtip

[crisp sedge]

Idk, do whatever

I wish there was an easier and safer way to clean my ears

[vapid smelt]

Vacuum

[crisp sedge]

Fr?

[harsh quartz]

The solution is the easiest way to do it, if done properly the ear wax should just drain out with that solution, but it takes time and feels gnarly

[vapid smelt]

Special ones that the ear doctors use

[crisp sedge]

Mmmmm

[crisp sedge]

I just did 2 days ago

[harsh quartz]

I used to have to do that regularly due to doctors never being able to see my ear drums, but now I just regularly clean them after showers with a Qtip (safely) and they stay cleared

[full fossil]

i have no proper way to clean my ears

going to the doc friday obv so ill bring up everything wrong yada yada

[crisp sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/jinny-jinnytty-lizard-animal-gif-21516244

[full fossil]

cute

[graceful mortar]

america loves her v8's

[restive lion]

America also loves senseless measurements like "miles per gallon"

[vapid smelt]

What you hauling

[native mountain]

😂 lool

[harsh quartz]

As opposed to liters/100km?

[restive lion]

Yup.

[graceful mortar]

fine..........

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, ours is definitely the nonsense one

[graceful mortar]

not mine i wish but i dont have 79K

[restive lion]

Spoken like a true American

[graceful mortar]

the EPA sticker actually has gallons per 100 miles on it

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, because I don’t care how much fuel I need to go a certain distance, I need to know how far I can go given a certain amount of fuel, considering that’s how the gasoline is charged

[graceful mortar]

27 L per 100Km doesnt sound bad

thats what $54 to go 100 miles?

well it takes 93 octane

[polar fern]

https://hackers.town/@LambdaCalculus/110975778244095425

[harsh quartz]

Also why are you always posting about cars when there is a dedicated car channel

[graceful mortar]

oh this is pub... nvm

[restive lion]

I'll just point you to someone who can explain it far better than me, https://youtu.be/oLQmwOX6Xds

[polar fern]

Shit channel.

[harsh quartz]

Yeah that video is too long, I’m gonna explain it the way I think about it cause I use it in every day life, if I put 10 gallons of fuel in my car, and I average 25MPG, I know I have roughly 250miles on that tank, and I need to fill up in app 200 miles

[graceful mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-oh-no-top-gear-here-we-go-again-not-again-gif-26298069

[graceful burrow]

Cringe car talk tbh

[polar fern]

It is a shit channel.

[harsh quartz]

Idk why this dude is constantly putting the convo back onto cars

[graceful mortar]

do you guys not think abouyt cars all day? and lines around race tracks?

[polar fern]

Nope.

[graceful burrow]

No I like tech not gas and oil

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/humanity-has-declined-bread-loaf-jinrui-wa-suitai-shimashita-gif-21662924

[graceful mortar]

most efficient way through a corner without losing speed to save 15 mins on your dailt commute?

and save fuel

[graceful burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/dinner-roll-roll-hawaiian-bread-kings-hawaiian-gif-7360765

[harsh quartz]

Or you could, idk, just drive like a normal fuckin commuter

[olive stump]

Correct and litres/100km-pilled

[graceful mortar]

that is normal.

[graceful burrow]

Or we could post bread and not cringe car posting

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/peanutbutterandjelly-pbandj-pbjday-sandwiches-cats-gif-3990238

[polar fern]

I’m a cyclist, but knowing about motor vehicles is an important part in exploring sustainable solutions.

[graceful burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074249

[graceful mortar]

how is that cringe?

[crisp sedge]

What the fucks a kilometer 🇺🇸

[harsh quartz]

Cool, so I’m glad we have a cars channel for that 🙂

[graceful burrow]

Because there's a whole ass channel for car talk

[olive stump]

The correct unit of measure

[polar fern]

It’s 1000 meters

[harsh quartz]

Metre

[graceful mortar]

so that makes it cringe? ok i didnt know that

[crisp sedge]

What the fucks a meter 🦅

[graceful mortar]

remember i am from "the 1900's" so not up to date on lingo

[harsh quartz]

Is what you pay to park on a city street

[polar fern]

100 cm

[olive stump]

Country fights war against a tyranical monarch
Country spends 200 years seething to keep measurement system based on the length of said monarch's foot

🤔🤔🤔🤔

[graceful burrow]

Me too

[hallow harness]

0.001 km

[crisp sedge]

Um, have y’all seen people who claim emulation is piracy?

I’ve seen some pro piracy people, but never anti emulation

[polar fern]

I got ya emulation rite here

[harsh quartz]

Those are what we call idiots, you laugh at them and continue walking past

[graceful mortar]

did you pay inflation adjusted price for the game?

[crisp sedge]

I guess I’m blessed to never seem one of em

[graceful mortar]

/s obv before teh hammerrs come out

[graceful burrow]

I'm pro piracy if the game isn't available anywhere legitimately or if the legitimate way to get the game significantly hurts the user experience

[harsh quartz]

Some people pay to go to clown school, others get it naturally

[crisp sedge]

I’m running recalbox on my raspberry pi 0 2 w

[crisp sedge]

Sure, I pay for all my games and I cry for the ones I can’t afford

[olive stump]

There's more than a few movies that only exist these days because of piracy digital archival.

[crisp sedge]

COD is my dream game

[harsh quartz]

I much rather playing Pokémon games on my DS, but all DS manufacturing has stopped and those things won’t last forever :p

[crisp sedge]

One day, I’ll be able to buy cod

[olive stump]

More and more videogames gonna fall into this bucket too over the next decade

[graceful burrow]

And they cost a fucking fortune second hand

[graceful mortar]

2 Fast 2 Furious VHS with surround sound 🤘🤘🤘

[graceful burrow]

Get your old consoles and mod them to last well into the future baybee

[olive stump]

DCMA really needs an abandonware / IP abandonment clause

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, but I own the ones I want so that isn’t an issue, but I can’t use the cartridges forever if they die or the devices die

[native cloud]

I saw pokemon platinum for $237 on ebay 😵‍💫

[graceful burrow]

They do for abandoned mmo games but nothing else

[crisp sedge]

What the hell is up with Nintendo

[harsh quartz]

Got mine for 20$ last year :p

[graceful burrow]

You should get a flash cart

[olive stump]

"If you don't maintain fair market access to media IP for 5 years then any digital achival of the product is considered fair use"

[uncut cairn]

got mine for $0.50

[crisp sedge]

5 years, is a bit too soon?

[olive stump]

Probably, just an example number

[crisp sedge]

Okay fair

[harsh quartz]

Disney would like a word

[graceful mortar]

5 yr with no activity/ability to play? that seems a bit long to me.

[crisp sedge]

Imma call my British lawyer

[harsh quartz]

Ngl I can’t take British courtrooms seriously

[crisp sedge]

Lmao

[graceful mortar]

wait why what happens?>\

[olive stump]

Needs to be long enough that a company say, rolling between formats (blue-ray -> new disc medium) don't get swept up, but not so long that no surviving copies of movie x cannot be recovered even from 2nd hand market anymore

[graceful mortar]

understand able

[harsh quartz]

The judges and attorneys still wear wigs as far as I know

[olive stump]

Whether that's 2, 5, 10 or 20 years? I don't know

Maybe even make it different time lengths for games vs. movies/tv

[crisp sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/法官-judge-order-in-the-court-court-order-gif-17875272

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-3000years-gif-12110509

[crisp sedge]

Bred people help me

[graceful burrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/375436621450969089/1142312437769584710/embreadfail.gif

[restive lion]

One day everything will be straight to digital and we'll be pirating things to burn copies to blu ray

[harsh quartz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/375436621450969089/1141553362626678858/image0.gif

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-check-out-this-check-out-this-cat-check-funny-gif-21137698

[crisp sedge]

Straight?

[restive lion]

Err, post theatre

[crisp sedge]

Idk nvm lol

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/toast-motivation-toaster-happy-good-morning-gif-4992612

[crisp sedge]

I had like, 1 and a half an hour of sleep

[olive stump]

One of the things that sucks about streamed content is the bitrate / compression on it is definitely worse. BluRay releases continue to be golden samples for a lot of media.

[harsh quartz]

And what about your son?

[olive stump]

x265 has closed the gap, but I'd argue it's still worse in places

[crisp sedge]

I uh, I have a son?

[olive stump]

congrats!

[harsh quartz]

😦 clearly someone didn’t pay attention to the gif

[crisp sedge]

Lmao, like I said, I didn’t sleep well

Yea, I put my son to sleep

[harsh quartz]

I still buy dvds/blue rays, but I don’t actually have anything that clan play them other than an old PS3 I have in my closet that I don’t even know if it still works

[restive lion]

I have multiple ps3s that I still use lol

[graceful mortar]

i.... noooo time to google

[restive lion]

None of the newer CODs can match up to black ops 2

[harsh quartz]

I haven’t turned mine on in years, last thing I played was probably infamous 2

[restive lion]

Me and my gf each have a ps3 for playing black ops 2 zombies together

[runic lagoon]

sorry to hear about your step dad. I think the legal logic goes back to the days of kings. It's intresting how much history there is about the legal system .

[harsh quartz]

It is on steam tho

[crisp sedge]

It’s all in le head

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-the-gif-25638395

[restive lion]

I have 1 computer

[crisp sedge]

Wake up Tom

[harsh quartz]

Easy, get a second

[crisp sedge]

You’re in a dream

[restive lion]

Ps3s can be acquired for 10 bucks on marketplace

[harsh quartz]

Just cause some of us are depressed doesn’t mean all of us have to be

[restive lion]

Plus another 10 bucks for a copy of black ops from willow video

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but can it run at 4k 700fps?

[restive lion]

It doesn't need to

[harsh quartz]

Definitely needs to

With ray tracing mods

[crisp sedge]

😭

[restive lion]

My guy my monitors are 1080p

4K doesn't do shit for me

[full fossil]

both of mine ate 1080p82

[crisp sedge]

Depression is all in le head

[full fossil]

4k is pointless 2 me

[harsh quartz]

Of course 4k doesn’t do anything, your on a ps3

(I only use 1440p)

[restive lion]

I mean anywhere in my life

The most I have is a 1440p monitor for my macbook dock, everything else is 1080p

[harsh quartz]

I definitely can tell between 1080 and 1440, but after that the returns are diminishing on anything smaller than a tv sized screen

[harsh quartz]

I mean, technically yes?

[restive lion]

Yeah there's certainly a difference, I just don't give a shit lol

[crisp sedge]

1080p content on 1440p looks bad

[restive lion]

Only reason I got a 1440p monitor was cause it was a good deal on marketplace

[harsh quartz]

Depends on the screen size mostly

[crisp sedge]

Same

[crisp sedge]

Sure

I mostly watch content on my second 1080p monitor, while I game on my primary 1440p monitor

[restive lion]

Both of my pc monitors are 1080, my PlayStation stuff is all 1080, etc

[harsh quartz]

Like on my phone, I don’t care if it’s 1080 or 1440, but my monitor has to be at 1440

[ancient flare]

Oof I think I found an error on Linus’ new vid

[crisp sedge]

Yea

[crisp sedge]

It was all in le head

[harsh quartz]

Cool, take a cookie

[restive lion]

I'm pretty sure my vr headset is 1080p too lol

I got an older vive

[harsh quartz]

I don’t understand the VR gimmick

[restive lion]

Well it's sort of my job so

[crisp sedge]

Which one you got?

[sterile nest]

Can I use thermal paste on my toothbrush?

[crisp sedge]

I wanna experience vr 😭

[harsh quartz]

(He says it below that)

[restive lion]

(Vr app development is my career)

[harsh quartz]

Ahh, so your why the ecosystem is meh?

[restive lion]

No I do private work for architectural companies

I have nothing to do with gaming

[crisp sedge]

Polar bread

[harsh quartz]

I don’t understand why companies keep dipping their toes in it and then back in our, and then no one buys their stuff, and then they go “oh we’re backing out cause no one bought the stuff”

[restive lion]

Depends where you live but there's generally places that you can go to and pay for an hour on one of their rigs

They'll have a bunch of games for you to play and usually you can go with friends and play together

[harsh quartz]

Polar bears at my bread*

[crisp sedge]

I’ll see

[harsh quartz]

This is a big city thing, I for one don’t live in a big city

[restive lion]

That was part of the "depends where you live"

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but it’s a very specific where you live scenario

[restive lion]

Big cities aren't a rare occurrence lol

[harsh quartz]

Statistically speaking they kinda are

[restive lion]

Most of the world population lives in big cities sooo

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but if you do it based off of land mass area instead

[restive lion]

America is the exception to that, not the rule

[harsh quartz]

At what point does a city become a big city or a town become a city?

[restive lion]

Legally speaking? Ask your government lol

[past egret]

a population of at least 50,000 inhabitants in contiguous dense grid cells (>1,500 inhabitants per square kilometer)

[gilded quest]

I remember seeing these pre-pandemic, but haven't seen one since

[past egret]

but depends per country

[harsh quartz]

Okay cause we have ~80-90k people here but definitely aren’t that densely packed

[restive lion]

That's surprising to hear, since VR is inherently a spaced out activity

All the ones around here (in Vancouver) have survived

[harsh quartz]

Oh wait no our numbers have gone down we’re at ~70k

[past egret]

theres a lot in taiwan for some reason

[harsh quartz]

Tech city, VR is seen as very up and coming tech

[past egret]

those VR booths

and theyre not small at all

[gilded quest]

Yeah but I'm sure they weren't open during lockdowns. Don't imagine these places have the cash on hand to weather months of lockdown followed by low traffic till the vaccines came out

[past egret]

pretty much all the major shopping malls have one

[upper stump]

bread

[harsh quartz]

If the mall hasn’t died already

[wooden river]

BREAD

[past egret]

nah taiwan very active, even in pandemic

[restive lion]

Are you in Vancouver?

[gilded quest]

USA

[past egret]

we were one of the most active countries in pandemic its amazing

[gilded quest]

I can get to Vancouver, Washington pretty quick

[restive lion]

Lol wrong vancouver

[gilded quest]

Ik

[past egret]

then at like april 2020 or 21 it massive took a dive

[harsh quartz]

No, Canada has the wrong Vancouver

[restive lion]

We have the LTT Vancouver so

[gilded quest]

Malls in the US were dying before the pandemic

Covid only accelerated that trend

[past egret]

malls in US was never too big to begin with

[harsh quartz]

Our mall is down to 1 anchor store, which has closed its inside doors and is now basically a standalone store, the crime rate in that area has also skyrocketed

[restive lion]

Canada has some batshit insanely massive malls

[gilded quest]

There were simply far too many of them

Too many malls with the same shit too close together

[restive lion]

Visit the west Edmonton mall if you ever go to Edmonton

Absolutely wild place

[past egret]

and far too little in other rural places especially south

people only went to the mall when they needed to

[gilded quest]

The south 🤮

[harsh quartz]

Yeah that’s typically what you do with stores

[gilded quest]

Yeah

[past egret]

we dont, in taiwan we went to the mall pretty much every 2 days

[restive lion]

Clearly you've never met a teenage girl

[past egret]

because we are so densely packed

[harsh quartz]

Clearly you’ve never lived in an area with high crime rates

[restive lion]

This is true!

I do not live in gun land

[harsh quartz]

Our mall is like a fuckin hitman mission “get in, complete the objective, get out”

[restive lion]

Lmfao

[gilded quest]

Remember, no Russian

[restive lion]

Plenty of people here go to malls to simply chill with friends

[past egret]

my parents always eat out in malls

[harsh quartz]

Ours were all like that ~15-20 years ago, but online shopping has killed most of our anchor stores, and after those go the rest of the stores follow

[gilded quest]

I really only go to the mall if I'm going to the movies. Or if my gf wants to visit the kpop store

[gilded quest]

The high end department stores (Neiman Marcus, Dillard's) I think are still doing fine. But the lower end anchors such as Macy's and JCPenney are dying fast

[past egret]

i think mall shopping its more common in dense cities since its right next to you and why wait for shipping

[restive lion]

Going the way of NCIX I see

[harsh quartz]

We lost our sears and macys, still have JCpennys and that’s why I go to the mall when I have to, I think we might still have a belk, but it’s belk and who shops there? Theres 1 fast Chinese food place left in the food court and that’s it, all the inside little stores are just like the phone case shops and whatnot

[gilded quest]

Oh god I forgot about sears

[restive lion]

Sears died everywhere because they refused to go online

[harsh quartz]

The anchor store to end all anchor stores, but the first to die

[gilded quest]

Most of the stuff in the mall today looks like cheap garbage or high end that's way beyond my budget

[harsh quartz]

Like a diamond store next to a phone case shop and a journeys?

[gilded quest]

Why are there 3 phone cases stands in every mall

[harsh quartz]

3? Only 3 in yours?

[past egret]

malls also every where in melbourne

[gilded quest]

What's a journey's

[past egret]

because theyre cheap to open and mantain business

[harsh quartz]

Don’t know never went in, I think it’s clothes, we also have a couple shoe stores, Aeropostale, and a Spencer’s, and that’s about it

[past egret]

wish they opened spencers here

[harsh quartz]

Spencer’s people are weird as hell

[restive lion]

Lol Spencer's has survived just about everything up here

[past egret]

oh wait nvm im thinking of M&S

i thought it was the same thing

[harsh quartz]

That’s a weird banned word

[gilded quest]

Who buys from them tho

[vapid canyon]

Isn’t that the store where kids can’t go in the back? 👀

[gilded quest]

What's Spencer's

[restive lion]

It sure is

[harsh quartz]

Spencer’s, the place you can buy a cool mug, a funny tshirt and a…. Weird toy… all in the same tiny mall store

[gilded quest]

Huhhhh

My childhood mall had no such thing

Although it was a very high end mall

[pale osprey]

you missed out

[gilded quest]

Did I tho

[pale osprey]

my shitty small town mall had a spencers lol

[pale osprey]

yes

[gilded quest]

We had a discovery store, Sony store, and the first Microsoft store

[restive lion]

Oh fuck off warship

[harsh quartz]

It is kind of funny watching middle schoolers try to think they’re slick goin into a Spencer’s just to have security kick em out

[gilded quest]

I fuckin miss the sony store

[pale osprey]

its cause they always head straight for the back of the store

[harsh quartz]

Our mall used to have radioshack

[harsh quartz]

Im aware

[vapid canyon]

I only got some elmo sesame street lava lamp there maybe 17 years ago

[gilded quest]

I thought hot topic was the emo store

[past egret]

your mall sounds great

is it not?

[harsh quartz]

Used to be but it’s not in most malls, Spencer’s is everywhere though, like a plague

[past egret]

my dad bought 2 bad ass t-shirts there that ive inherited pretty much

its a dog biker shirt or something

[pale osprey]

its not here in quebec :( there is nothing here

[harsh quartz]

I actually don’t even know if it’s still in our mall cause I never go there

[pale osprey]

fucking anti english laws stop companies from coming here

[vapid canyon]

Be glad, tbh it’s a bit werid

[pale osprey]

i grew up going there

its not that weird

[harsh quartz]

Our mall doesn’t even have a GameStop or any sort of electronics store

[past egret]

EB games?

lol

[pale osprey]

fuck you warship

[past egret]

you shouldve seen that coming

[harsh quartz]

Warship gettin all of us tonight

[pale osprey]

i did but i hoped it wasnt that much of an ass

[past egret]

warship should at least repeated the message with the word cut out so you can just c&p it

[pale osprey]

war ship needs to get its context straight

[full fossil]

warshit be like that

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-chat-xd-kill-me-gif-21386815

[past egret]

its for the cool kids only so leave us alone

[pale osprey]

you cant even say the name for people who dress up like animals

[past egret]

wow ok

[harsh quartz]

Cool, you want a cookie or something?

[pale osprey]

do it. shit will get nuked

[harsh quartz]

So buy one

[full fossil]

Damnnn

[harsh quartz]

Skill issue

[past egret]

that is pretty lame tbh

i dont see that much harm as well anyway

[full fossil]

L bot

[harsh quartz]

Warship gettin everyone

[full fossil]

Fuck

[past egret]

someone get a hold of that bot

[manic torrent]

Get some.

[pale osprey]

yall saw that right

[vapid canyon]

What they said and insta deleted?

[manic torrent]

I have what is known as a "job". If nothing else, there's always money in the banana stand.

[harsh quartz]

Behind Walmart is full of lucrative opportunities

Like selling bread

Skill gap

[polar fern]

Bread.

[harsh quartz]

Bread gap

[full fossil]

No bread for you.

[polar fern]

?

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-test-dukey-were-out-of-bread-bread-no-bread-gif-17089500

[pale osprey]

i sent you a ss of the warship message in dms

[idle skiff]

Wait aprime can't see pilot chat as a regular member

U will be missed

[karmic flame]

LMG just received bread https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601276898835955722/1146209156890628249/image.png

[harsh quartz]

Is this a box truck with no sides?

[pale osprey]

shipping was delayed and now its mouldy

[idle skiff]

Wtf I swear I sent this like. This morning. Why did it send now. Wtf

[karmic flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1084974585050562640/1146171122585448569/FullBread.png

[harsh quartz]

That’s some dope ass bread

[pliant karma]

now that is perfect

[idle skiff]

Discord is actually breaking, it's sending messages when I open the app that I hit send on over 12 hours ago

[polar fern]

Box trucks can have all kinds of different walls and roofs etc

[full fossil]

Got my men on the way to steal it.

[pale osprey]

its cause you closed the app before it sent

[vapid canyon]

Wheres the brioche rolls at?

[idle skiff]

Shouldn't be on the user

[polar fern]

Powdered toast man themed pc

[karmic flame]

It has gingerbread men guarding it

[olive stump]

So when is this gonna be a server sticker?

[polar fern]

😯🍞

[harsh quartz]

That’s not how this works

[full fossil]

Welll iii got dan.

[pale osprey]

if you close discord before the message fully sends discord isnt just gonna send out a half baked text. its gonna wait for the rest of it

[olive stump]

Oh nevermind, it already is

[polar fern]

[idle skiff]

if your user hits send, it should send the message whether you close the app or not. The data is sent.

[full fossil]

No bread.

[idle skiff]

For it to automatically send when the user next opens the app, with no expiry or timeout, is bad

[pale osprey]

the data is not sent when you press the send button. thats just uploading it

[polar fern]

My brother in crust, I have bread

[restive lion]

That's just not how apps work lol

[pale osprey]

if you interupt the upload then no message

[olive stump]

No bitches bread?

[full fossil]

No bc I eat it all....

[harsh quartz]

You have to verify that the message sends, which discord makes obvious when this does or does not happen, the same way any internet based messenger does

[olive stump]

lmao got clapped

[polar fern]

I hope you enjoyed it, because bread is amazing

[crisp sedge]

Lmao

[restive lion]

If the HTTP request doesn't complete before the app is closed then there's is no way for it to be sent before the app closes

[full fossil]

uhhhh

[idle skiff]

Are you trying to speedrun a ban

[karmic flame]

they are trying really hard

[restive lion]

Read their annoy me

[crisp sedge]

No

[full fossil]

No

[restive lion]

About me*

[crisp sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/exciting-riveting-telus-frog-ribbit-gif-25392125

[olive stump]

https://tenor.com/view/why-cant-you-just-be-normal-youre-weird-stop-it-chill-out-wtf-gif-12213994

[restive lion]

Unfortunately you've broken the don't be a dunce rule

[polar fern]

Once you press send, it takes approximately 12 ms for the app and phone to complete sending a message given a proper Internet connection.

[pale osprey]

why am i not allowed to call people who dress up as animals by the common term.

[olive stump]

lmaooo

[polar fern]

@pale osprey they’re costumed heros?

[full fossil]

Bc bread bread bread

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/ducks-duck-bread-eating-eating-bread-gif-21356646

[polar fern]

Batman?

[karmic flame]

What does that have to do with the channel topic?

[full fossil]

Batbread

[idle skiff]

apps are stupid and developers are all wrong. Let's just go back to smoke signals or messenger pigeons

[crisp sedge]

May I have the bread role please, I left and rejoined the server and it’s too late 😭

[full fossil]

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