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[umbral cobalt]

i am seeing less bread today

has it returned to normal?

[steep girder]

We had certain cultures getting drunk that did it on purpose lol. Vikings idk... did they initially try making meads because they somehow found out first it kills germs in water? Or did they make it because it's fun or good for battle?

Back in the days Germans/Nords started making beer and definitely the earliest we supposedly have like Egyptians actually being first actually!! 🤓

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-eating-eat-bread-gif-18457160

[steep girder]

Yeah we didn't even know that microbes existed.

[umbral cobalt]

Out of all the things I've seen related to bread on this discord this is probably the weirdest

[steep girder]

So we weren't even aware of anything that alcohol kills. At least in its true observed form.

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/gingerbread-man-ginerbread-jschlatt-day-n-night-cursed-gif-24003618

[manic torrent]

One of the local computer shops posted, but doesn't have images allowed....

[steep girder]

Bread slavs use to ferment and then after it comes out of cellar, it's like white Kvas. Has alcoholic content. But it's legal to drink all ages.

(Because it's sub-one percent)

[carmine light]

It likely started out as "oh shit this food went bad but we're starving" then shit got real fun

[umbral cobalt]

i see

[normal cargo]

Yarp, they did know it was a healthier solution tho, even if they didn't know why. Romans used to mix wine with water to make to purify it

Like it's not hard to figure out things like stagnant water is bad

[steep girder]

Idk. It's much more complicated than one would think. Like when we first made beer of root resulting in 'root beer'... that 'root' was of sassafras. It had alcohol and got you decently buzzed... but also an oil from it called safrole turned naturally into MDA or MDMA eventually in human metabolism. Our ancient ancestors did drugs without even realizing it. We found out about this much later in like 20th century (maybe Nazis as always). Then we finally scheduled it

So like organic root beer they gotta treat to remove the 'harmful' things if you make it from authentic ingredients. Sass root. It's what you want but irl not really unless you remove certain oils from it lol

[carmine light]

Then we finally scheduled it

which sucks

[steep girder]

Well actually it's good. Even if you want that final naughty product, you don't want it do be like synthesized or reduced whatever by metabolic process in liver from safrole lol

Problem is it breaks down into one of the things being amphetos, true. But the other biproducts are really cancerous and toxic in many ways.

[carmine light]

hindsight is 20/20 tho. I think it's easy to say that from our own educated perspective, but unless it's literally reeking stagnant water you might now know from the look/smell. Plus...imagine you're dying and it's your only option.

[normal cargo]

No I mean it's learned experience, like we know it's bad now, were told this. The only difference is we know why it's bad

[steep girder]

The first thing in stranded situation you need to get is fire started anyways. So what you're talking about (finding water source) should assume you already got burn going

[pale osprey]

go even farther back. think Egyptian and roman wine

[steep girder]

Any water you bring to like 90C even for a few seconds should be safe bet lol

[carmine light]

I have a similar theory about some religions that have strict rules about food. I think it stems from way back when certain things were more likely to carry pathogens.

[normal cargo]

Well it's similiar with that, figured out pretty early on that cooking food made it safer. In guessing preservatives like smoking and salt too

[steep girder]

Egyptian 'beer' goes way farther back than roman wine. I mentioned it. The whole cool part of it is that they seemed to have made alcoholic beverage on purpose lol. Egyptians partied

[carmine light]

Like pork and trichinosis

[steep girder]

What's funny is we're the only carnivore that cooks or boils meat. Everybody else eats raw. Max maybe bush meat evolved to eat if it's sundried.

[upper stump]

isbread\

[pale osprey]

gotta find something to do when all the jobs are taken by egyptian and Jewish slaves

[upper stump]

paint

[pale osprey]

they did

[upper stump]

they also occasionally made happy little accidents

[carmine light]

pretty sure that's how booze started. A happy little accident

"fuck this fruit is rotten, but I'm starving"

[steep girder]

Literally mid-discovery of chemistry, we got the perfect by volume ration of vodka though :P

[carmine light]

then humans big fat human brain's did the math

[steep girder]

Mendeleev like discovered different elements I guess and that you can make a table... but he didn't observe or at least acknowledge atomic number and their correct order lmfao. Then western physicists got the real one from hydrogen up

[pale osprey]

or "hey remember when we hid this from the tax collectors 3 years ago and forgot about it"

[steep girder]

But tbh even when they got atomic number, they still didn't know about neutrons and isotopes lmfao :P

So we discovered actual perfect vodka comrades before even neutron or atomic number

[carmine light]

I think it was waaay before taxes. Some uncontaced tribes were observed to eat rotten fruit to get drunk. It likely evolved out of that before advanced civilization

[pale osprey]

we found out what an atom was and instantly tried to weaponize it

[pale osprey]

taxes are older than time

wether it be giving up money wheat or meat you had to pay

[steep girder]

Nah the weaponization was around a century later. Even the intent wasn't immediate because we still didn't even realize that nuclear reactions can happen. Things like positrons, cathode ray tube, neutron radiation were later

But tentatively we did know a lot of shit just couldn't really make it in practice from the looks of it lol. Like rocketships apparently were talked about by one of those very manhattan project-era German physicists lol. People wanted to go to space since at least during ww2

[pale osprey]

jules verne came pretty close to how it happened with his book

[steep girder]

Just couldn't do it. Both soviets and US even had cartoons n sht pretty sure depicting basically rockets with thruster going to moon lol. This was way before space race/

[pale osprey]

published in 1867

[steep girder]

He's known for the submarine I think. Yeah Jules Vernes the whole book 40,000 leages takes place in sub lmfao.

[pale osprey]

hes also known for from the earth to the moon

[steep girder]

Wait journey to center of the earth right

[pale osprey]

yes

wait no

[steep girder]

Wait a minute. I know a soviet cartoon that has pre-landing rocket going to moon and there's a population in the moon's core lmfao.

[pale osprey]

he wrote that but the book im talking about is from the earth to the moon

[steep girder]

So basically like journey to the center of the moon + it's a bunch of little bug-sized earth people and communism good vs capitalism bad themes. On rocket too.

The famous cartoon actually I think is at least 80s but the story itself was same exact thing before space race. Some sht like that. Neznaika na lune

[steep girder]

Brings me back to our discovery of 'planets'... and therefore satellites/'moons' if you think about it... because what's a satellite? It orbits a planet and not a star (since formation)

Historically, you know those symbols we had for all planets except for pluto (which turns out to be not a planet anyways c. 2006 lol)? We had them for like the sun, the moon, mars, venus, mercury, etc in the inner solar system. And then basically all the gas giants (that we discovered to this day tbh) in the outer system.

[gilded vessel]

mood

[pale osprey]

recent like ratios show that he is no longer canceled

[steep girder]

So picture living pre-Newton times and you don't even understand any differences besides the moon and sun looking like circle with noticeable radius. Because they didn't look like points in sky to human eye, they weren't exactly considered the stellae basically like everything else. Stellae meant stars

[pale osprey]

lol what

[gilded vessel]

that was the mistake

[steep girder]

The other planets were looked at basically as stars but they were mobile. The rest of the stars that looked similar in night sky were 'stallae fixae'. They were fixed stars.

[gilded vessel]

not correcting mistakes

[pale osprey]

"what do we do now" has 188k likes vs 192k dislikes and 5.1m views. "heres the plan" has 169k likes and 18k dislikes with 2.2m views,

[keen cradle]

bawls

[steep girder]

So wtf you're telling me about going to the moon when spherical Earth was accepted by at least majority of west last 10ish centuries. Then the fact that everything in sky didn't orbit around Earth and we weren't 'In Sphaeram" was accepted a few centuries later lol. Another 200ish years pass and a Sir by the name of Newton (maybe not knighted yet?) actually even conceptualizes gravity properly with no subjectivity (which we knew was there subconsciously for a while perhaps)

[pale osprey]

you hear all this and people will still call theoreical physics bogus

[steep girder]

Yeah well those people are still trying to be perhaps even more meticulous and wanting the ultimate scientific observation with their own two eyes. At least they say. Whenever I think of a modern flat earther even getting sent to space and looking at Earth... would he accept round Earth finally?

The windows have stereoscopic displays projecting it. It's all fake! You're all loominati lizard! Standard model is a hoaaaaa.....

Gets ejected into space

[wary summit]

how dumb are Australians and Americans

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/102785112

[gilded vessel]

yes

[pale osprey]

lol nevada police just bulldozed a climate protester roadblock with their cop truck

[wary summit]

3 people died in a Game to see who is the better military...

Who in the fucking World thought of this idea

and this is also the reason why POTUS isin't allowed on Osspreys

[gilded vessel]

they were melee kills

[wary summit]

The crash happened during Exercise Predators Run, a series of war games being held in northern Australia between the militaries of the United States, Australia, Indonesia, the Philippines, and Timor Leste.

[pale osprey]

protesters blocking roads has to be the dumbest thing ive ever seen. yes advocate for the climate by causing cars to spew pollution while sitting there doing nothing

[steep girder]

What about you? Inquires about intelligence in some way of two entire countries... conflates their general opinion as nation to whatever is written on ABC article

[wary summit]

the general idea of having a "game" to demonstrate who's military is strong is just stupid.

[steep girder]

||Perhaps you should first look up what the insane majority American and Aussie opinions are on news source like ABC, etc||

[pale osprey]

its not

[steep girder]

whose

[wary summit]

-_-

Ive had 2hrs sleep

imma go back to sleep

[pale osprey]

if you can show that your military is the strongest people will want to attack less

[harsh quartz]

"how dare militaries take a break from daily training"

[gilded vessel]

mans thinks wargames are stupid.

[wary summit]

yes, Just show everyone your yearly spending on the military

and also, Satalites exist

and Americans ain't showing off what they researching in Area 51

[gilded vessel]

such as the f22's successor

[wary summit]

this wasn't daily training

[harsh quartz]

i assumed the bad takes were over once the LTT drama was subsided but damn this is bad bad

[pale osprey]

doesn't work. russia for example they invaded Ukraine thinking they spent all kinds of money years before on infantry equipment only to find out it lined someone's pocket and no equipment was ever bought

[gilded vessel]

scariest this that flew since the cretaceous period

[steep girder]

Honestly military irl has one intended purpose: to protect the country minimally when it comes down to physical combat. That means at least holding whomever is decisively not allowed to enter the borders back. Protect both the government and the 'people'. Just all individuals considered to make up the federation. Boom.

The military should be minimally trained and equipped to be capable of those things. At the very least...

[pale osprey]

they do though. they are constantly declassifying shit they worked on decades ago and it scares tf out of other countries because they wonder what they are woking on now

[wary summit]

if you think this is bad it ain't even getting started

[pale osprey]

the sr71 was a area 51 project and so was the u2 bomber

[steep girder]

Wdym question mark. Literally the one thing nobody disagrees on when it comes to what the ideal military is: it is one or more humans who protect the country's interests and physical safety right?

[wary summit]

I meant during the R&D

[harsh quartz]

U2 bomber?

[pale osprey]

wrong model

[wary summit]

that ain't my question mark

[pale osprey]

the f-117

[harsh quartz]

also the B2, which is what i assume you were referring to, the U2 was a spyplane

[wary summit]

so your telling me, that 3 casualties and 20 injuries were worth it? just to show off an odd 750 personnel show

that took a while to send...

I sent that 5m ago.

[pale osprey]

you do realize casualty numbers include injuries right

[harsh quartz]

training accidents happen, whether it was in a wargame or not is irrelevant

[sage sun]

yes, so lets spend trillions on a piss contest

[pale osprey]

if someone says they took 30 casualties it means 30 people were either killed injured or captured

[sage sun]

the cold war was one big burning of trillions and trillions

[harsh quartz]

Australia casually capturing US sailors

[steep girder]

No but even if you have a utopian democractic socialism or capitalism (w/e tf you idealize)... what if another nation with literally the opposing interests of your entire utopia decided to spend their own trillions and attack you?

[sage sun]

i am afraid russia is not able to conquer a country next to its own borders, let alone one across the sea.

[steep girder]

By your ideals already a utopia means that you've achieved what you consider to be the morally correct way. You're the good guys. This applies to any viewpoint. So the other guys are against freedom, well-being, the rest of usual sht. So they're the arsewholes. You better have a military already able to fight them off lmfao

[pale osprey]

the russian military is the worst example on the planet of a properly prepared military

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-unbread-twins-bread-pain-gif-21686964

[sage sun]

where did i use the word utopia?

[full fossil]

Poleticks 🤢🤮

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/viralhog-tired-bread-carbs-stuffed-gif-12091817

[steep girder]

Whatever that trillion is of as actual intrinsic honest to god value, you probably need somewhere around that to defend against their attacks. That's best case scenario irl honestly. Like nukes. They don't even cost much but to defend against them properly... yeah... insane moneys sunk

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-gif-11549687

[sage sun]

and yet people thought it would crush ukraine in a single day. and now the person that was heading the operation is dead lol

[full fossil]

Puupin is still alive

[pale osprey]

the western military's just handed the ukrainians some weapons and trained them a bit and they are kicking ass. imagine how capable a fully funded and trained western/nato military is

[sage sun]

putin just hides away in his mansion, he doesn't know how to win a war, he knows how to plant bombs in a building but that's about it.

[full fossil]

/s right?

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-b-bread-bread212-bread-rainbow-bread-party-gif-24434274

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/rosuuri-rosu-pinku-bread-trick-gif-18674770

[steep girder]

Personally, I think this should apply to literally everybody if they want to be logically consistent:

If you do happen to believe that an existential nuclear threat is out there, you must believe in spending enough money to defend against it. Self-preservation. Even to have a contrary opinion is broken. You can't have either opinion if you're dead.

[pale osprey]

nope ive been following the war since day one and im just seriously dumbing down what happened

[steep girder]

Problem is today they say apart from nuclear powers, we collectively reported more than enough enriched uranium missing or whatever enough to make nuclear weapons as well

[sage sun]

nuclear war is gonna happen at some point regardless what america or russia does

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074266

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074269

[steep girder]

So the whole planet agrees somewhere out there we probably have terrorist organizations that don't align with any gov that could easily have nuclear doomsday device.

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074249

[steep girder]

Basically pirates w nukes.

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-hunger-sandwich-gif-15070776

https://tenor.com/view/bread-hungry-food-gif-4000298

[sage sun]

you think countries are good at holding nukes?

[steep girder]

And if you haven't seen videos of contemporary pirate today, you should google it

||They charge with ak47 in rubber outboard motor boat at like US destroyer||

[pale osprey]

and when i say kicking ass i don't mean they are taking back their territory like its nothing. they are a small nation that has ben successfully holding back a former empire with little to nothing other than whats given to them. and you don't do that by being incompetent or continuing your soviet training style

[sage sun]

they are all idiots playing god. when one nuke drops, all the others will too.

it is probably the dumbest invention ever

[topaz crag]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074254

[steep girder]

Idiot is accurate word imho. Because nobody can play god. They must be an idiot to think that any intentions they had prior to dropping the nuke can ever be fulfilled after humanity is dead... unless they want to kill themselves on purpose

[pale osprey]

there was a video somewhere explaining how all the nukes in the world actually isnt enough for total planetary destruction

the world as we know it would be gone but there would still be more than enough places to live radiation free

[sage sun]

you know nukes are gonna be dropped where it hurts the most. most people would starve to death.

[harsh quartz]

yeah but thats ignoring nuclear winter

[pale osprey]

its not

[steep girder]

Yes they are. Planetary destruction you're talking about what? Define it.

[latent plank]

mutually assured destruction is the best destruction

[steep girder]

As in disintegrate planet and spread mass around so much that it turns into asteroid belt?

[harsh quartz]

Toast the planet

[pale osprey]

the amount of nukes we have isnt enough to send the entire planet into nuclear winter.

just most of it

[sage sun]

i guess we'll find out some day

[harsh quartz]

are you actually arguing semantics over nuclear winter?

given the amount of super markets in the world, there would be SOMEWHERE near a nuke where the bread on the shelf is all perfectly toasted

[sage sun]

i would not be surprised if putin drops a tactical nuke on ukraine, or somewhere in the sea as a threat.

[pale osprey]

i spend a long ass time reseaching it with the weather patterns of the world its legitmatly impossible for the entire planet to be affected there will still be habitable zones

[steep girder]

They say that the alarmists about prehistoric super volcanoes are crazy if they claim any naturally caused scenario. On the other hand, they also say that for the first time ever, us humans with our nukes already have enough to at least shake the tectonics enough to cause like Yellowstone eruption lmfao

[pale osprey]

the question came into alot of peoples minds with the release of oppenheimer

[steep girder]

There are things that happened once since planet formed. Like the Earth got an atmosphere and never lost it since. But idk with all our nukes in arsenal, perhaps we could be the first and only thing that is capable of making the Earth lose entire gas atmosphere lmfao

[sage sun]

yeah it apparently takes a dramatic movie to make people think

[steep girder]

Or like there are actual climatologist theories which to this day are believed to be official for certain aspects of our atmosphere. Like the CO2 concentration is said to have been insanely high up until a certain point. I think that certain point in time was during or after the birth of life on Earth.

[full fossil]

Hello loafs

[steep girder]

So like picture us doing something bad enough to wipe out actually 100% of all life on Earth. Some say if we at least launched all our nukes in stockpile at once, we have a good chance

Which is messed because none of the ice ages to this day wiped out all life on Earth. Not even separately plants, bacteria, animals, etc

[sage sun]

yeah except the nukes aren't gonna be dropping in random areas, life would still end up returning and flourishing.

humans probably wouldn't, no crops no population boom.

[steep girder]

Prehistoric sht survived all ice ages to date as well clearly. Prehistoric to various degrees. Sharks, lampreys, leeches, etc.

[pale osprey]

mice and frogs

[steep girder]

I don't think any animal even left the water yet when leeches and lampreys happened

[pale osprey]

basically any reptile as well

[stable egret]

🥖

[steep girder]

Nah frogs are amphibians. Theyre already defined with the whole ocean and land animal ordeal. At one point, all animals lived in the sea pretty sure

[full fossil]

Biggest leap in human history

[smoky shadow]

True

[pale osprey]

? all i said is they are prehistoric. some have been found in amber and determined to be 100million years old

[steep girder]

Yeah. We find (mostly insect-like) animals in amber washing up from like ocean or some sht. Insects are already interesting because I don't even remember if they're classified as vertebrata or not. They have nervous systems but very basic compared to like mammal with brain and spinal chord like we're used to. Their circulations are also weird I remember. Not exactly blood vessels. More free flowing

[pale osprey]

neil armstrong would like a word

[full fossil]

Man lands on noon

LTT posts pictures of bread

[steep girder]

But if you take like arachnids... a spider already has the same mutation as all animals with the male-female thing. Spiders are still male and female. There are animals that still reproduce sans biological gender at all. Sea sponges I think are one

Sea sponges if you look them up should be invertebrate animal... they reproduce by esentially cloning themselves on their own lmfao.

[sage sun]

i dont know what is this big frog lobby propaganda

[chrome vector]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man2-spider-man-tobey-maguire-pizza-time-spiderman-meme-gif-26415903

[polar fern]

Parker! You’re fired!

[sage sun]

i thought rdj was a better spiderman.

[polar fern]

Who?

[sage sun]

rdj

[chrome vector]

Little known fact, Bully Maguire came back and put dirt in his eye. And that bitch who didn't pay for 2 minute late Pizza when he spent a good minute and 30 seconds getting out of the closet and fixing the brooms.

[polar fern]

Some random jumble of letters.. okay?

[sage sun]

robert downey junior

i mean he redefined what it means to be spiderman.

[abstract dust]

Give me my 🍞

[pale osprey]

is it just me or would he be way less cool if his name was robert downey with no jr

[chrome vector]

No, he played Captain Am-er-ica. Conquerer of the elusive Peruvian puff pepper

[polar fern]

@pale osprey for many years in movies, his credit name was Robert Downey.

[sage sun]

i dont know. but before him spiderman was a bland character, no one was buying comics

[harsh quartz]

miles morales only good spiderman

[chrome vector]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-mysterio-iron-man-grave-spider-man-far-from-home-illusion-gif-24689310

To be fair, he's pretty down now. In fact, a whole six feet down under

[dark cape]

where are de new videos? tanks!

[polar fern]

Soon.

[sage sun]

he's returning

i think he's playing miles morales in fact.

[pale osprey]

im starting to dislike the average ltt viewer

[polar fern]

rise of the revenge of the return of the character 2: more.

[dark cape]

so i’ve heard

[sage sun]

i think that's just disrespectful

they can't let spiderman's rdj just rest

cause no one knew what spiderman event meant before he came along

and that was in 2009, now that was 16 years ago.

[spice pine]

i hated RDJ’s iron man

[pale osprey]

LTT viewer: make less videos of better quality LTT: okay we have scrapped all our planned and completed content . LTT viewer: why is there no videos i thought they came back

[chrome vector]

Heretic. Miles was never even Super Man like my boy Peter Palmer

[sage sun]

i need videos to know how the world works?

[spice pine]

didn’t they retcon Peter Palmer into one of the Spider-Men that Morlun killed

[chrome vector]

Probably idk, I try to get that clone saga shit out of my face as quickly as possible

[spice pine]

Nah, wasn’t even clone saga, lemme try to find it

nvm i’m thinking of “Patton Parnel”

they did retcon Palmer into something else though

[chrome vector]

I know they did this

[spice pine]

yeah lmfao. modern comics have really dragged my homeboy down

🍞

[steep girder]

In one of the comics, MJ died and then later got cloned or some sht

[inland night]

I’m trying to return a battery bank from shargeek and they have the worst customer support they are literally gaslighting me saying that I dropped my batter bank

And they aren’t giving me the 30 day no questions asked return policy

[steep girder]

Do they have any proof of you dropping it yourself after unboxing? Like damage that can only be caused by drop outside of packaging? Or g-sensor and e-fuse or some sht?

[chrome vector]

To be fair they knocked Spider-Man out of the park from issue 1. Within the first 20 issues they already created the vulture, doctor octopus, the sandman, electro, the lizard, green goblin, kraven the hunter, and scorpion. And that's just the Stan Lee and Steve Ditko run. Two issues into the run of Stan Lee and John Romita Sr. they made the Rhino and a bit later Kingpin. That's ignoring important but lesser known villians (to the general public) like the enforcers or the spider-slayers. Spider-Man knocked it out of the park like no other super hero in existence. He has one of the most iconic rogue galleries (the only one coming close or surpasses him is Batman) and there were so many iconic stories so early in to his run. How many iconic stories do you hear coming from early issues of other long running superheros? Many of the most notable come later, origins not withstanding. This is also my biggest defense against anyone who trashes Stan Lee or over hypes his writing.

[steep girder]

Bro I only know of like the main characters from Sam Rami movies and a few others like rhino, electro obstacle course guy, aliens in ufos because of video games idk. Comics I never read too much as a kid

[inland night]

They asked me to send pictures so I did and there’s a small gap in the casing because there is a separate piece in the middle since it’s clear plastic

[steep girder]

Ok ask them that if they're saying the damage breaking it is from shock when it dropped to floor which that gap might prove I guess... how did it break your unit lol. Like is the actual thing broken from being dropped?

[spice pine]

i Love spidey but the current run is doing him no justice, I hate Paul so much. and there’s still so much you can do with him as a character

let peter get older and married, let Miles explore the “inexperienced youth” angle they keep trying to force on Peter

[steep girder]

They themselves implied it broke from you dropping it. The airgap probably didn't break it. Just an indicator of it dropping. What's the actual malfunction? Where is it physically broken in a way you could get from dropping it that screwed battery bank? Because I can't think of anything other than like actual cell getting open or contact lost somewhere idk.

Idk but if warranty covers defect and you're within that time period after buying it, it should be enough to say that no you're wrong and I didn't drop it; it came like that and they replace it lol. Just keep bothering their customer support until they agree to replace for free incl shipping

[hollow knot]

💾

[inland night]

It’s not broken there’s just a small gap

[steep girder]

Oh. So the battery bank is working fine no problem? Because a small gap between like cells when they shrink wrapped it or some sht... that shouldn't make a diff no?

[chrome vector]

Yeah I haven't read anything from the newest runs, I'm reading all the old stuff from the beginning right now. I do agree about him getting old, though. One More Day fucking hurt Spidey so bad. So many writers are idolize highschool Spider-Man, even though he was only on high school for 28 issues in main universe. I like young Peter, but they need to let him grow in the main canon and leave the other stuff to alternate universes like Ultimate Spider-Man. I do not mind having different universes being published at the same time, I love that shit. Ironically, by being so obsessed with young Peter they're ruining one of the things that made The Amazing Spider-Man so great in the first place, the fact that he actually grew and changed issue to issue.

[steep girder]

I swear they have like one guy shrink wrap with heat gun and it and then it becomes 'closed cell'. Then they go out and say yours or from ali express is more dangerous.

[spice pine]

Ultimate is back* now so hopefully they’ll let him grow one way or another

[last solstice]

is bredge still going

hell yes it is lesgo

[spice pine]

🍞

[olive stump]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-get-this-bread-praise-the-loaf-funny-get-that-breat-get-it-gif-12897456

[polar fern]

Why is this only $270? https://a.co/d/2De3kvz

[past egret]

i was hungry

[steep girder]

Why did you shorten a url to amazon product? I gotta see the page because so far I only trust the embed image

Rule of thumb for price too good to be true is:

a) Check the official marketplace guaranteed condition. I.e. ebay 'as is

[sage sun]

when is scrapyard was coming out?

[noble axle]

ohh exciting 😄

[steep girder]

b) If you're basically looking at an 'as is' product, check description and see if anything is written explaining low price

c) Ultimately, try to always find crisp and hires pic of entire boards the hardware component has. Look for charring or liquid residue. If none, now you can consider buying. If no clear pics of all sides are posted, it's sus.

Like don't get that card if the price is suspiciously too low and the only picture is that thumbnail. That's not even a photo of the unit. Taken from OEM site. Steer clear

[bright silo]

$270 for a 6700 is normal

clearance prices

[steep girder]

Still though should provide at least filled in option for quality/condition. If it's as-is, idk. Should be something on site that indicates at least good shape and functioning lol. Or description should say it functions without problems.

But in my experience, generic thumbnail taken from OEM or retailer site is red flag. You're not OEM or official retailer. Why are you selling units without self-taken photograph of unit(s)?

[bright silo]

its an amazon.com listing, its new...?

[steep girder]

Even like companies or office spaces who replace entire workstations sell off bulk with at least photo of the pile of dells

[mortal parcel]

Bread

[short escarp]

Are people still being pissy cry babies?

[tidal minnow]

?

[carmine light]

Last time I pissed myself I was 32

[south stone]

Knowing that the IHS is thicker on the new ryzen am5 cpus, what are the chances of a last am5 cpu to be a ryzen x3d+ cpu with even more vcache and less IHS?

"Bye bye am5, here's a 1 gigabyte L3 cache cpu for you"

[bright silo]

the IHS isnt thinner

[steep girder]

Whenever somebody is crying for a great portion of the day without for the smallest reasons, they're usually a baby and pee themselves

[bright silo]

the total height is thinner the IHS is thicker to compensate

[full fossil]

LTT twitter is now bread

[south stone]

Sorry, meant THICKER, hehe

Thank you for the correction xD

[short escarp]

Everyone has shit themselves at least once as an adult

[bright silo]

no worries i say smart things on occasion

[bright silo]

ever get really really sick, easy way for that one

[south stone]

too bad modders can't actually go and add 1gb l3 cache to cpus to see how'd perform xD

[steep girder]

People usually stop at a certain early age of childhood and never do it again... except very rare occasions. Sometimes it's no reason other than dreaming of going to take a leak. Other times it's like kidney infection or uti. The last time I ever wetted bed I had the latter

[south stone]

lol

One session of bean burritos and buffalo wings and it can backfire too.

Btw, I learned only recently that buffalo wings isn't actually buffalo...

[steep girder]

Literally decades pass. One night you just jerk awake and sit up immediately. You just began pissin a bit under yourself in bed as adult but stopped it mid way. Then you realize like it burns all the way to kidney which has dull pain. Sucks lmfao

[steep girder]

Theres a channel about these things. One guy heard the local buzz about some unmarked taco truck guy. The pork tacos were delicious. The story ends with a hella backfiring

[short escarp]

I've dreamed about taking a piss and swore that i must have pee'd when i woke up it felt so real but luckily i didn't

[short escarp]

What

[spice pine]

didn’t this end up on chubbyemu, the doctor guy who explains what happens when crazy stories end up in the ER?

[steep girder]

Even the tapeworms backfired because larvae ended up in his brain causing like seizures. They died but idk how to this day he can possibly get that removed D:

Even for that parasite what happened wasn't normal lifecycle. Pigs that the pork was made from ate human excrement with their larvae already inside there. You know a guy did some ungodly diregard for hygeine if even the parasites died because it wasn't regular scenario

[spice pine]

https://youtu.be/lPRzYJwqz6g?si=vNinp1ywSPixSvSl this is that story about the pork tacos, had to dig but i just listened to this the other day

[zinc glade]

CHUBBYEMUUU

I love his stuff so much

[steep girder]

Yeah chubbyemu. That's the channel you want for the simplest food or some sht backfiring in the worst way possible

[zinc glade]

Gas Station Sushi, yummers!!!

[spice pine]

Gas Station Nachos 😭

[steep girder]

I mean the pork truck one is actually more or less of some practical use. The moral of that story in the end is make sure one of the most important things your livestock's food is clean from: our own feces

[carmine light]

Well I was drunk af lol

[steep girder]

Because even for parasite larvae that can be found in them it breaks away life cycle when it comes to simple stomach worms. Both pork and bovine.

[full fossil]

hell's going on here now

this chat has been random for how long?

[steep girder]

Like both the worm and the person are supposed to survive indefinitely. Even the worm evolves toward same goal. Instead that guy in story gets like seizures and lesions in his brain because larvae crossed stomach wall and managed to evade immune system all the way till they got lodged in his brain.... D:

[spice pine]

since I joined at least. digging the vibe of checking in and seeing the musings

[zinc glade]

Freak accident scenario right there

[full fossil]

this server is quite an interesting server, I'll say

[steep girder]

Well honestly, I want to say that first of all at least in States he mentions that they regulate this all the way down distribution line of pork growing to consumer's mouth lol. That's why you only eat from places you know are inspected and licensed lmfao :P

Secondly, you have to try really hard to get human crap into pig enclosure. Almost like he did it on purpose? Or fed them sewage/waste? Maybe had a septic tank underneath that was open above ground? Idk

[full fossil]

goodnight everybody
dont forget that i infact do not love any of you <3

[steep girder]

But it's easily preventable and actually regulated by law. Hence nobody gets worm larvae in brain leading to seizures. Again, even the worms were thrown a curve ball :P

Same w mad cow n sht

[full fossil]

ayyy, I don't love you to

[steep girder]

Mad cow remembe there was a panic early 2000s in mass produced beef in States? So McDonalds, burgers, etc. Then it quickly stopped and you don't hear about a single case legit except rarely. Perhaps even years apart. Why is that?

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-oprah-winfrey-i-love-bread-i-love-it-gif-17222934

[full fossil]

how wholesome <33

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-my-fucking-life-jane-fonda-grace-grace-and-frankie-i-hate-my-life-gif-17586579

[olive stump]

I haven't slept properly in 5 nights now because of this persistent cough, so this is a mood

[steep girder]

Like how was mad cow disease stopped? Because if it as spreading disease somehow, we actually have an example where we managed to 'stop the spread' and end something with our own measures lol. Hint: it wasn't masking quarantining or social distancing cows and/or mcdonalds customer

[steep girder]

See a doctor idk.

[olive stump]

It's just the tail end of an RSV infection, nothing a doctor can do that I'm not already doing

[worn vapor]

What is with the bread

[steep girder]

Lol gets five nights in a row of bad sleep because of cough that started for unknown reason.
Reports symptom to LTT discord chat

Go to doctor because that's who you should be telling about persistent cough

[olive stump]

It's not an unknown reason, I'm pretty certain of what it is, it's just very exhausting/annoying

[full fossil]

A mood for you but not me

[steep girder]

Did a doctor confirm it was RSV infection?

[pure quest]

Repost again I love this pic.

[full fossil]

Bread

[pure quest]

Definitely bread.

[olive stump]

I don't...need them to confirm? Not like a dr is gonna run a cultures test or anything, even then they won't (and shouldn't) perscribe antibiotics for it.

I've got some solid over the counter drugs and smashing the water / rest, not a lot else I can do

[full fossil]

Yes

[quaint venture]

lol

[steep girder]

They can look at your throat now or something and check if there are tears and bleeding idk. If so, they can prescribe something for the cough or pain. If that cough is bad enough to cost you 5 consecutive days of sleep lol... could be pretty bad

[pure quest]

Noooooo someone locked the bread in the claw machine.

[full fossil]

NOOOO FUCK

WHO WOULD DO THAT

[steep girder]

I've never woken up from cough. Idk either I coughed in my sleep unaware when sick or I didn't even cough at all because I don't remember.

[pure quest]

How do you usually apply your bread's thermal paste?

[full fossil]

With bread pasta

[pure quest]

I suspect Dan maybe. LoL

[full fossil]

We need to have a talk with Dan...

[worn vapor]

But what’s the joke?

[polar fern]

We need a bread loaf for scale

I’m really glad that the lmg staff are having fun with the whole bread thing. It brings me joy to see.

[steep girder]

You need 2 loafs of bread so you can see how many left side loafs of bread the right side loaf weighs

[polar fern]

Yes.

[full fossil]

Why did the baker go to therapy?

[olive stump]

pilot chat raided public chat with 🍞 last week when things in here got really toxic

kinda went on from there

[steep girder]

It's funny because loafs and definitely slices are kind of expected and reasonably conceptualized with respect to market prices of bread in general... some is a bit more expensive, some is really cheap. And yet there's no actual standardized units for loaf or slice

[olive stump]

Those bread slicing machines in supermarkets will let you pick your slice width, they're amazing

[steep girder]

Like tbh slice never sets price so it's ok I can pre-slice my batons to like 1/3 thickness of roughly acceptable slice width. But no of slices is not related in any way to quantity of unit and price

[lethal jay]

not fun to clean. Crumbs. Get. Everywhere.

[polar fern]

Sliced bread is a modern invention that accelerates the bread going stale and/or spoiling

[steep girder]

It's one loaf always. Or half a loaf tbh. Some bread you get like half a loaf. Often more high end breads that are 'artisanal' and 'organic' and yet rarely the ones that are fresh baked in the oven you see in front of you. You get same high end price roughly for clearly what was baked as one loaf and somebody else took away the other half...

why? Show your work and explain your reasoning in words.

[pure quest]

Yes, that we need more bread.

[polar fern]

DIY bread slicing at a store sounds very unhygienic

[olive stump]

I can imagine

[olive stump]

Are...are you arguing against the invention of slice bread

[polar fern]

When I worked at a sandwich shop, the bread was always cut over a mesh thing & the crumbs would fall down. Very cool. For some reason the knife was not affected by the metal mesh

[steep girder]

Yeah but the only other of two kinds pre-slicing you ever get is just two slices in halves. That's the bad one of the two. Pre-sliced for convenience is good one but honestly it's like one step motion with slicer.

[polar fern]

I’m gonna be honest after learning huge amount about bread I prefer the whole loaves that I slice myself

[lethal jay]

Tbf, but sometimes it is annoying how bread goes stale. I don't use much bread, so often a normal sliced pan is way too much. More often nowdays I get wholemeal soda bread. Pretty dense, and I find it lasts longer

[steep girder]

Not even cigarette companies signify at all slicing lmfao. They literally price regular, KS and 100+ length cigarettes the same usually. Because it's no cost diff to them how long or how much tobacco went in

Just the slicing itself is the only significant cost

[polar fern]

There are a few mass market brands of bread that use natural antifungal ingredients, like Daves killer bread, but for the most part I prefer whole loaf

[thick solstice]

What's the deal with bread?

[south stone]

Tl;dr: Gigabyte power supplies are exploding, quick post bread. Kind of situation.

[lethal jay]

This is the best kind of bread. This and some real butter, glass of milk Amazing

[steep girder]

It's required

[olive stump]

I buy a whole loaf and only get time for maybe 8ish slices before it's getting too old and needs to be frozen

[thick solstice]

I have more questions than before I asked

[little tinsel]

wanshow

[lethal jay]

I've never frozen bread..not a bad idea

[past egret]

do not microwave bread, it will not make toast

[olive stump]

Try it, most toasters have a "frozen" button too, can pop frozen bread straight into the toaster

[lethal jay]

although I rarely buy loafs of like white bread anymore

[lethal jay]

um, did you think it would?

[thick solstice]

👍

[polar fern]

When I do buy whole loaf it goes pretty quickly, so I don’t need to worry about spoiling to begin with. Dave’s killer bread is my go-to for pre-sliced.

[slim creek]

anyone know any games as interactive as rdr2?

[pale osprey]

dayz

[past egret]

the fuck does interactive mean

playable?

[pale osprey]

manually eating food in a game

[past egret]

lmao

so if you cant eat food in a game its not interactive

[pale osprey]

dayz you also have to make sure your coward of a character doesnt get sick

[slim creek]

no like for example you can interact with almost all the npcs that each do their own unique thing

[past egret]

like minecraft?

all the npcs do different things

[pale osprey]

lol rdr2 isnt really that interactive if thats what you want

[slim creek]

you sure about that?

[pale osprey]

i have 1300 hours in it. im pretty sure

[slim creek]

damn

theres no game that I got over 1k hours in

[pale osprey]

elder scrolls online is way more interactive than rdr2

[past egret]

god i hate that game lol

bg3 is very interactive i mean

every npc do their own thing, literally

or div2, or any larian game

[olive stump]

I really enjoy ESO

[slim creek]

bro why tf did they add a romance option to a bear

[past egret]

its a druid

[tribal topaz]

where can i buy this charger ? https://www.oppo.com/en/newsroom/stories/mini-flash-chargers-are-slimming-down-and-speeding-up/

[past egret]

youve not seen anything from the game obviously

[slim creek]

I dont like turned/luck based games

[past egret]

neither do i but ive grown to love it

and you can save scum so its not really luck based

save, get a bad roll, load save roll again

[slim creek]

only good luck based game was some game I played off a CD when I was 6

[lethal jay]

Key word: option

[slim creek]

anyone know a island dice game?

[harsh quartz]

You’ve never played d&d have you?

[slim creek]

nope and I do not plan to

[past egret]

most creative bg player vs least creative dnd player

"seduce the cave spider, roll for charisma"

[harsh quartz]

Let’s just say some players first question is “can I fuck it?” And the second question is “is it alive?”

[harsh quartz]

This really violates the spirit but to each their own ig

[lethal jay]

It could be a statue that is enchanted to be able to talk, dnd players will still try to seduce it

[young root]

pet land in florence kentucky sells dogs for 5000-10,000 dollars.

[slim creek]

spiderman

[young root]

dogs are free bruh

[olive stump]

Save scumming

[young root]

how you sell a dog? 🤨

[lethal jay]

Dnd player tries to not seduce anything that moves challenge (impossible)

[harsh quartz]

Save scumming is fine most the times, especially if it’s skill based and your improving, but if the game is based around chance, I feel like scumming the chance rolls is just violating the spirit of the game

[past egret]

play how you like

[slim creek]

can you seduce a leaking pipe?

[past egret]

i very rarely save scum

[lethal jay]

Hey there you...long hard thing. I see you got a leak there, maybe I can fill up that hole.

[past egret]

DM would probably ban you

[harsh quartz]

No the DM would just give you tetanus after

[slim creek]

drip twice if you consent

[lethal jay]

It does sort of, but occasionally I do it for a role I really care about. Mostly becuase its a situaiton where as a Dm I wouldn't make a player roll for it, mostly because its too story centric and important to character arcs. The randomness of dnd is great for 95% of things, but in a super serious moment, rolling can ruin it. just have to get a feel for how the players want to go

if its obvious that a player wants to go in a certain direction, don't keep throwing dice rolls to try and fuck them over

Had one too many dms do that

[slim creek]

is there a shroom race in bg3?

[lethal jay]

Not playable

but you can meet some mushroom people

[slim creek]

tempting

[past egret]

theres a really fat one that you can control and then it dies like a lil bitch

because its absolutely useless

and only raises the dead

[lethal jay]

Also this was outrageous, but good

I hate that I haven't been able to talk to people about bg3, mostly becuase spoilers

[slim creek]

can you name them?

[past egret]

i dont remember

he was not important

[lethal jay]

I mean, they are the most side of side characters. You met them for like 10-15mins in an 80hour ish playthrough?

[slim creek]

have you seen darker and darker

it looks so fun

[graceful burrow]

Dark and darker*

[iron hatch]

Any prebuilt recommendations under 1,5k$?

[slim creek]

was it renamed?

nvm

[past egret]

no its always been that

[slim creek]

for some reason quite a lot of people call it darker and darker

[graceful burrow]

It's always been called that

[ocean narwhal]

So any updates on the linbald drama

[olive stump]

no

[graceful mortar]

the subscription to Drama has expired please pay $99.99 per month to contuine. in light of this news we have gifted you free bread

[pure quest]

No drama only bread.

[lethal jay]

Im gonna take free bread and drop the drama, life would be better

[exotic ridge]

I see bread has become meta

[graceful mortar]

JUST solved world hunger ... ill collect my award at LTX 2024

[lethal jay]

what about 2024?

[graceful mortar]

Literally has no idea what year it is

[olive stump]

2011

[lethal jay]

Its right there

[graceful mortar]

my date and time are blocked by my 8tb external drive lol

[graceful mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

[lethal jay]

Goo goo gah gah

[graceful mortar]

29th month..... thats wierd

[lethal jay]

No its just the right format

[graceful mortar]

grins in USA

[lethal jay]

I mean, for day to day best format. For files, Year/month/day is the best

[graceful mortar]

Here's what I see from my eye level.

[graceful mortar]

i.... no 0.o you were infant in 2011?

[lethal jay]

Not really

was like around 8 or so

[upper stump]

what games do you all play?

[pure quest]

Bread games.

[merry gull]

doggooo

[jade lantern]

[wary vine]

Can't wait to go to LTX 2024 And give Dan a loaf of bread

[jade lantern]

[full fossil]

yay

[olive stump]

TFW: You go to a convention with work and come home with like 8 loaves of bread

[fathom kindle]

cant wait to wish i was rich enouph to go to ltx

[wary vine]

Just simply save up

The trip costed me around 4k USD, and that was after an emergency I had in Vancouver

Pretty sure you could get it pretty cheap if you did it right, especially if you're only up there for yhe event

[olive stump]

IF I do LTX next year I'd be looking to put aside about 10K to do it

[fathom kindle]

ya, but im only 16😭

[olive stump]

But also, need to know timings bc I want to hit DEFCON in Vegas a few weeks after as well

[restive lion]

Cost me 150 bucks and a skytrain ticket

[wary vine]

5k is a comfortable amount for a full week easily

[olive stump]

How much is that in Australian pesos? 🫠

[wary vine]

7800

[olive stump]

RIP

[wary vine]

Plane ticket might cost more as well

If you're coming from aus that is

[olive stump]

Oh god yeah, return flights gonna be about 2.5K Aussie rubles

[finite sapphire]

didnt the australian ruble crash?

or was that the korean rupee

[olive stump]

It never crashes it just bounces between not totally awful and dear god no

[past egret]

do you mean dongoroos

[olive stump]

um excuse me, we call them dollarydoos here

[hallow harness]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074269

[olive stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w3iPFl-cfI

[past egret]

it may be different in different territories but in VIC i call them dongoroos

[olive stump]

We took this Simpsons bit from 1997 so seriously there was a big petition to parliment to change the name of the currency to Dollarydoos

[past egret]

what an australian thing to do

[olive stump]

Most normal Melbourne moment

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/a-petition-to-call-australias-currency-the-dollarydoo-has-50000-signatures-2015-10-19

[signal jackal]

How do I get the bread roll perms?

[olive stump]

Can't anymore 😦

[signal jackal]

F

[past egret]

submit bread to the toaster

[signal jackal]

What if I want to teleport bread?

[past egret]

seek new ways

(drownplane)

[signal jackal]

I'll ask Rick May

Sinkheli

[long briar]

lmao

[rugged kettle]

That article aged well, lol

The Aussie AUDUSD, 0.14% , as its more commonly known, recently traded at 72.60 cents, slightly above its weakest level since March 2009, which it reached in September.

[olive stump]

This hurts me

[rugged kettle]

I guess the petition didn't quite take off

[olive stump]

Parliment rejected it 😦

[quaint venture]

[rugged kettle]

Parliament is boring

[quaint venture]

UK parliament is funny

[rugged kettle]

UK Parliament is more entertaining to watch

[steep girder]

Imagine being in Bulgaria and flying to like Paris for $99.69 usd

[solar night]

I miss London > Portugal for £16

(taxes in)

[steep girder]

Goodbye cloudy north sea. Hello aquamarine colored Atlantic + sun in Lisbon. 16 pounds is insane.

[solar night]

That used to be a common rate from Stansted to Porto

[steep girder]

Theyre planning I think in France already to tax the sht out of short distance flights. Because they're incentivizing train travel instead. It's 'more environmentally friendly' (said nobody ever).

[runic lagoon]

tax space x rocket trips for ritch people 🔥

[steep girder]

Imagine fighting force of friction on like 99tonne centipede vehicle the entire way and using more energy for same distance than plane. It's better 👍

Plus pretty sure theyre gonna have to like build railroads too idk. Spend more money on 1800s tech we don't have that costs more physically to travel than Bernoulli-ing the whole way there through the sky like a boss.

[lethal jay]

Plane tickets from Ireland to canada are insnae. about a thousand euro to fly mid-august. Not impossible, but hard to justify when I can fly anywhere in europe for like 50-100

[graceful mortar]

but airlines arent gov controlled just taxpayer funded.....

[steep girder]

No but space travel actually costs in that same physical way insanely more than not breaking away from Earth's gravity + atmosphere until you leave it the entire way lmfao. Like majority of rocket from the start is filled with fuel that burns just to get into space :P

[upper stump]

crumble cookies are good

[full fossil]

A PSU isn't technically a battery, do I have to dispose of that at electronics dispo or can I just regular toss it

[steep girder]

Then the way more expensive tech is actually required once you get out of atmosphere. Every component has to be shielded from radiation. Once in open space, there's actually too much ionizing radiation coming in from all directions. Just the cosmic background

[steep girder]

All electronics. If it has a pcb, that's considered to be the problem. Batteries you shouldn't toss for your own practical benefits on top lol. Like battery should be tossed carefully where it can't burn down house.

*A typically sized e-bike battery can weld an apt building metal door off its hinges burn a hole through it fyi

And no a PSU is definitely not technically a battery. It's a power supply. It can have one or more batteries inside. It can have batteries as the source for the power. So it will be PSU and a battery bank inside of it. Two diff things.

A brick you plug into wall with usb port for smartphone is the PSU for it. The block in between cable going to outlet and the (usually thinner) cable plugging into laptop is also the PSU in terms of functionality equiv

[lilac bear]

the capacitors inside the PSU can also hold a charge, which is what makes working with the internals so deadly

[empty pollen]

Pain.

[steep girder]

Right they're probably some of the biggest caps you have in entire digital electronic

[olive stump]

They don't hold capacitance that long, but also, if you don't know what you're doing, don't

[empty pollen]

Kinda like working on CRTs esp the open frame kind, do not proceed unless you know what you are doing. Its very easy to dead yourself.

[graceful mortar]

force short to discharge (resistance load) ? prolly to big for that.

[steep girder]

The entire point of PSU is it rectifies and steps down somehow like 120VAC up to however many watts max it handles into 12VDC 0.5A rails or some sht. It's definitely something you shouldn't play with lol. Big caps as rule of thumb just be careful. Discharge them to make sure they're discharged lol

[olive stump]

Again, unless you know where to short to ground, don't

[empty pollen]

My new bluetti has lifepo4s, its pretty stupid how quickly it can charge and dump power.

[graceful mortar]

i just dont open them, even $200 to just replace isnt worth the risks.

[steep girder]

But in terms of holding charge, idk. What's 'not that long'? I think it can be minutes they still have it. Usually wherever it's a problem, you discharge them yourself

[olive stump]

But technially, yes you could

I live in a family of electricians and electrical engineers, I know enough to be dangerous and I wouldn't try and open a PSU

[lilac bear]

FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER

[empty pollen]

First time I discharged a flyback transformer felt reaaaaly sketchy.

[lethal jay]

https://tenor.com/view/electroboom-full-bridge-rectifier-full-bridge-gif-24661594

[graceful mortar]

watched a dude with 20 yrs experience blow his finger off with 277v dud to ballasts in florescent fixtures in an elementary school. got sloppy.

told him Neutral is flowing.

[lethal jay]

His videos are a great reminder that I know absolute nish about electronics, and should not go poking around with electronics. That and Styropyro

[olive stump]

Every sparky has a story about being "hit by mains"

[lilac bear]

"neutral is flowing" idk what that means so I guess I shouldn't touch that stuff

[empty pollen]

How can you tell a pro electrician from the newbie?

The pro has a helper with a 2x4 standing by.

[quaint venture]

Nah a noob will fuck around and find out while a pro will fuck around and laugh about it

[empty pollen]

BZZZ Hah! Opps.

[olive stump]

Just the way they handle working on "live" circuits, pros won't grip onto anything and usually have their own sorta way of handling/working

[empty pollen]

Well breaker is off now.

[lethal jay]

Had a lamp in my room when I was young, the plastic case had been crakced and fallen off the wall plug. Tried turning off the socket, accidently pressed my finger against something in the plug that gave me a shock. Never went near exposed live electronics since

[graceful mortar]

wait i got that wrong. dude worked for the LIGHTING specialty company. had to be kicked off ladder. dude who drove him to ER said his car reeked for DAYS

[graceful mortar]

OFF doesnt mean off we had all 277 OFF. i had teh key. always chirp.

[graceful mortar]

yep like with insulated pliers, fiberglass ladder and very slowly. ive done it.

[lethal jay]

I know enough about electornics to use a tester and see if the circut is live. If it is, im not touching it

[empty pollen]

Yeah I never assume off or lockout tag out anymore. Sparky has bitten me too many times, learned real quick.

[olive stump]

Not allowed to work on electrical with metal ladders anymore here

There's like 3 different codes now that all explicitly ban it

[graceful mortar]

chirper than double check with multimeter.

[lethal jay]

tbf a metal ladder sounds like a recipie for a disaster

[empty pollen]

I know chirper sounds self explanatory but you might want to share with the class what that is/does. Most people probably have no idea they exist.

[graceful mortar]

we have alum ones. but many wont work live on anything over 120v without full composite (very $$) ladders. i hear carbon fiber is teh hot new thing. spray painted to prevent theft ofc.

[lethal jay]

My brother is in college for electrical engineering, and even he isn't confident enough to mess around with electricity. Just makes sure everything has next to no current so if he does touch anything, the resistance would be too high for anything to cause damage

[steep girder]

My grandpa did a lot of electrician work. First of all, yeah, the pliers/vicegrips/cutters are and always have been insulated handles. Originally it was at least electrical tape wrapped many times around until it gets that ergonomic grip + also insulates.

He told me another practice is always work with right hand and the left is kept behind their back literally

[graceful mortar]

*Alum rungs.

[lilac bear]

carbon fiber is great but the reason it's in the news is because of the Titan submersible

[olive stump]

Lent my brother my screwdriver once and he immediately used it to bash level a bunch of outlets 🫠🫠

[graceful mortar]

dont always have luxury woorking completely disconnected. sometimes you work on a box that is partial live. or its simply too expensive to shut teh buisness down to work cold.

[empty pollen]

The key is you have to respect electricity, you cant fear it or it will kill you.

[steep girder]

That way if you end up becoming resistor, the electricity passes through right hand to right foot instead of heart. Worst case generally pretty sure is left to right hand or vice versa. Arm to arm across chest means heart. But left hand to left foot and maybe also right also is close enough to heart I guess.

[lethal jay]

Fair, all he is doing is hobbiest stuff and college projects so no reason to not disconnect everything

[steep girder]

When Im aware of high power danger, I legit not only use right hand only. I also usually stand on just right foot and left is lifted mid air

[graceful mortar]

sadly live is usually well over 120v so crazy high risk. while you boss is harping about deadlines so they get their early completion bonus... funny they dont lose iot or theri job for accidents. yay USA...

[lethal jay]

I am running out of the room 😅

[lethal jay]

Is it more or less dangerous to work on European power grid? (230v Ac)

[steep girder]

But apparently the vast majority of electrocution injuries are statistically indirect. So it's not the zap but the fall off ladder etc.

[graceful mortar]

i mean. or just have a spotter who HATES you. they will immediately make sure that ladder comes out from underneath you.
hopefully you dont have too many false scares 😅

[graceful mortar]

more, much more

[steep girder]

If you manage to get the first important roll of dice (and some decisive initial factors) needed to let go of contact point, you're still thrown randomly with no control of body wherever current passed through. Especially VAC. VAC sucks because it's a wave

[full fossil]

is the core i5-12400 still a good cpu?

[pure quest]

Yes

[lethal jay]

Wait Valve anti cheat can kill you irl?

[steep girder]

That's probably where the back and forth seizuring comes from. 60Hz flex and relax all muscles :0

[graceful mortar]

DC is locked in. vac you have a chance.... maybe

[steep girder]

Wot

[lethal jay]

VAC - Valve Anti cheat

[steep girder]

Like you get suicidal depressed over VAC ban?

[quaint venture]

DC is far wore to be shocked by

[olive stump]

If you get caught cheating in CSGO Valve send their VAC squad

[quaint venture]

That shit locks you in place

[lethal jay]

Electric chair time

[olive stump]

https://tenor.com/view/f-bi-raid-swat-gif-11500735

[lethal jay]

230V ac

right through your body. Deserved fate for people who cheat tbh

[steep girder]

I would on my main. Too much social life, money and time invested into steam account. VAC ban would make me at least consider jumping off Gabe's building. Idk just joking. This is not laughing matter

[graceful mortar]

ladder kick is so they dont share teh load with you. ive seen 2X4 smacks to teh chest needed on teh ground. talk about turning teh corner and going "wat teh actual F is going on here" as you see a man full force take a 2X4 to a guy on teh job site.

[lethal jay]

Or they just shock your hands enough to cause nerve damage to the point of being unable to use mnk/controller

[graceful mortar]

microsoft has a solution for you

[lethal jay]

Probably best to not discuss Valves torture methods tho

[steep girder]

Oh lmfao. Kinda like zuckerbergs metaverse approved helmet. Please wait while we send ppl to your house because you rejected his baby ray's sauce. The headset tightening and preventing you from taking off is normal.

[lethal jay]

Elon musks Neuralink, I promise it will solve all of humanities problems.

[quaint venture]

Fuck that shit

[graceful mortar]

yes.... like cyber truck will USA electric car adoption.

*for fishy

[empty pollen]

Ah the good old one handed electrician, better make sure you are wearing your safety squints too.

[lethal jay]

We love Elon, who cares about the laws of physics, we can ignore them. Morals and the entire field of philosophy? meh. Being a good pesron? Never heard of it

[steep girder]

They legit had nanobots injected into bloodstream that somehow hook into nerve cells on the backburner since state funded abortion clinic split funds with KKK. Transhumanism is new nickname for whatever original eugenics was. Today, they're actually researching it lmfao

[empty pollen]

[graceful mortar]

physics, aerodynamics, price promises..... you know teh norm

[lethal jay]

Eugenics, My favourite part of every Ww2 leaders wikipedia page

[quaint venture]

If you don't wanna get shocked while on ship, wear your steaming bats

[lilac bear]

Neuralink is a cool idea
but the fact Elon Musk is the person that owns that, yeah no

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/anohana-menma-gif-20613922

[quaint venture]

Most uncomftable boots ever made

[steep girder]

I mean what's funny is I'd be happier even if some imperialist super-corp was doing this for capitalist purposes. At least I know their neuralink's goal would only be to make money from me buying stuff. So like just send commercial to my eyeball nerve.

Meanwhile... government funding it... yeah nothing good I can imagine for end game lol

[full fossil]

what bdid I just step into

[graceful mortar]

I watched his MBHD video. And the man's kind of right. Roadster was not quite there.
S was/is very special (though outdated at this point)
3 and y are getting to the right point.

But even he admits they lost their way with model X particularly with the doors.

[pure quest]

I got my new wonder bread B.2 SSB TBD today can't wait to install it on the bread box.

[lethal jay]

I mean I can't argue that teslas aren't good cars. They do their purpose well, but some of Elons ideas are special

[quaint venture]

Company or Country it's kinda just a shit idea for people to put that shit inside them

[lethal jay]

is that what a breadboard is?

[graceful mortar]

I saw 16 cybertrucks on the back of semis. Eight per semi because of the weight limit.

I just don't see how on earth this vehicle is going to be under 150 to $200,000.

[quaint venture]

Thought the cyber truck was gonna be like 40k or something

[runic lagoon]

needs more garlic butter upgrades.

[vapid smelt]

regular semis or tesla semis?

[steep girder]

I agree if you're implying that individuals should stop fronting and represent themselves in their true honest forms: as individual. Yeah even capitalism has derps as corporation grows. Overhead but also conflict of interest.

[lethal jay]

I just don't get the idea of them? Not that many people are going to need a truck that can carry as much weight as a cybertruck, nor have the money to spend on one.

[graceful mortar]

I think they are good products with a bad price. I think the S not having a million mile drivetrain like that's cheaper brother the 3 does is a direct insult to the consumer.

And I am a bit concerned as to why they did not choose carbon fiber for Tesla vehicles considering that would offset about 30% of the weight penalty of the battery pack.

BMW 7 series has it.

[pure quest]

This is a Bread board.

[graceful mortar]

They were the maintaining the speed limits so....

[steep girder]

Distance travelled limits without the /h lol

(Unless you have plus subscription for extra 20k or Elon Musk notices in time that you're in hurricane)

[lilac bear]

the price will only go up because theres actual demand for these triangle trucks

[lethal jay]

Yeah, Tesla the company are fine, mkbhd did a good video on their solar panel installations. I just don't think Elon had a lot of say in it, after all it takes teams of engineers to make something like Tesla function

[steep girder]

Ok, since you're in hurricane, I'll give you 20mi extra as 'gtfo zero-ground' promotion

[graceful mortar]

Yeah same way that we thought that the Silverado EV would be 40,000, the F-150 lightning would be 40,000, and it's coming to light that very basic edition of both those trucks are WELL over 70.

In Silverado's case the second level of work truck is 75 k 😐😐

[graceful mortar]

I'm talking about the one-on-one that MKBHD had with him and then they started talking about what every vehicle each members of the team had on order.

It would have been a somewhat older video

[vapid smelt]

#BringBagSmallTrucks

[pure quest]

Well if Elon really wants all electric he needs to start building nuclear plants or really use the genius intelligence to figure out fusion. Because there isn't anyway to power all electrical vehicles with solar or wind renewables.

[quaint venture]

I saw the word "lighting" and though of the F-35B Lightning lol

[lethal jay]

#StopBuyingTrucksWhenYouDontNeedOne

[steep girder]

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/tesla-car-battery-fire-needed-6000-gallons-water-to-extinguish-rcna68153

[graceful mortar]

Ford had the formula absolutely perfected in the form of the Ranger EV.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Ranger_EV?wprov=sfla1

[steep girder]

Problem with tesla battery is not even fire dept can put it out until it stops on its own lmfao

[graceful mortar]

We don't we use coal power plants in the middle of nowhere in industrial districts.

[vapid smelt]

now THATS a truck

[quaint venture]

If you really wanted to fix the climate you would just limit who can own motor vehicles and have anyone that does own one use an electric one

[pure quest]

Won't work

[steep girder]

Like you're best off not even approaching it as 'looking for most effective flame rtrdant' because it's not flame you're trying to put out. The battery literally has to discharge :P

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2oD1ZHNMFE like this town?

[lethal jay]

Issue is, afaik we need to figure out large scale, electrical storage before we can move to all-electric vehicles

[empty pollen]

This is why I went down the lifepo4 route for the battery pack in my truck. Lots more stable compared to lion.

[steep girder]

It's not even EV. It's the grab for a shtty 'semi-private' government contract where a manufacturer gets exclusive rights while everybody else can eat it. 'Becuse battery is electricity and it's green bruh'

[graceful mortar]

Ford people thought of the f150 SVT lightning.

[quaint venture]

I was more thinking that people would just have to use public transport since it would reduce road congestion and reduce carbon emissions. Like not everyone needs a fucking car

[steep girder]

Meanwhile they like ship the battery from Chinese manufacturer across entire pacific ocean because who cares about env irl lol

[graceful mortar]

This is true with all chemical fires. Your phone would do the same thing just on a substantially smaller scale

[empty pollen]

Goes around the planet a few times before its a battery lol.

[steep girder]

Yeah right I already am aware of protocol for phone. It's on my list of nightmares. Just toss into least flammable place immediately lol

[graceful mortar]

So only wealth people can get to and from work and everybody else just has to work minimum wage jobs because They can only afford houses that are within walking distances of minimum wage jobs.

[dapper whale]

does anyone now what happed to the diamond play button PC

[steep girder]

Like tbh throw out window onto road if you can. Screw the glass. You'll get it replaced

[graceful mortar]

It's sitting on a shelf it's not done yet

[steep girder]

Even vape pen battery people needed like facial reconstruction surgery idk. It's not just capacity. It's the power at which it 'discharges' lmfao

[quaint venture]

Acting like I would let wealthy people have cars as well, most people (in the first world) don't need cars

[graceful mortar]

What causes those bat massive battery fires is typically a loss of cooling capability first and foremost.

[dapper whale]

i want so i can have the case and playbutton

[graceful mortar]

My commute is 40 miles round trip Tell me more how I don't need a car...

[quaint venture]

Is there no suitable public transport in your area?

[graceful burrow]

if they're in the usa i can answer
nope

[graceful mortar]

Nope. Lost four jobs back to back because buses were late.

The average speed of a bus on a similar 40 mi commute took me I'd get off work at 2:00 p.m. and I would get home at the very earliest 6:30 often 7:30 pm... That's for 28? miles.

[vapid smelt]

same i could take the train, but then i got 6 miles of highway with no sidewalks

[graceful mortar]

It was 35 miles just checked.

[quaint venture]

So public transport exists but it's just absolute dog shit basically

[graceful mortar]

Yes and we tried an at grade light rail and the average cost comes out to right around $100 million dollars per mile.

Light rail does not have those issues but because of the insane cost that is extremely limited in the areas that it goes.

It's focused around this theory of park and ride so you drive to a parking lot park your car get out of your car then get on the light rail.

Which would be fine but people rob people's cars at these park and ride since they know that they won't be back there for at least 8 hours

[steep girder]

This is all just safety mostly though. Imho, the real focus should be how 'green electricity' vs 'car exhaust' are the big swindle. Even if we figure out fusion: just the sheer laws of physics say the most efficienty optimization would be to cut out the battery -- just a storage container for energy and use the magnetic fields somehow to turn the wheel directly

[carmine light]

Also the US is super spread out in some cases. Reliable public transit would only work in a handful of concentrated metro areas

[graceful mortar]

Yeah I was going over it with ARC. My city is 60 mi east to west and 50 miles north to south.

[graceful burrow]

it's cheaper to fly across the usa than it is to take a passenger train too

by a severe amount

[steep girder]

Literally batteries. They are a middleman lol. Convenient? For now I guess. Current? Good medium for transferring energy. Still, there's nothing special about Teslas. They charge from electrical socket which gets its power from plant. Plant can be fossil fuel and even coal if we fck up and everything goes to crap.

[graceful mortar]

Crazy big. We tend to do these massive neighborhoods of houses and then a little corner area will be cut out for commercial but typically it's low paying jobs like grocery stores and stuff like that.

If you have a" job job" you have to commute

[graceful mortar]

Especially if you want to be there in any amount of reasonable time.

[sage sun]

Yeah, US is a hell hole.

[steep girder]

GG. Now you're wasting energy on converting coal you burnt to alternating electric current, manufacturing and charging batteries and then powering an electromotor.

[carmine light]

Yeah I think a lot of people just look at the map and conclude the US isn't that much different than the EU. The mercator projection strikes again. It's also why Africa looks so small when it's friggin enormous

[graceful mortar]

If we can find a solution that works in the United States we will have a solution that will work anywhere in the world.

[sage sun]

The solution is public transit, woohoooo

[steep girder]

So green. I can feel my RGB dimming the R and B values. Now I am green, my broes.

[sage sun]

It's not cars that waste so much energy to do something public transit can

[graceful mortar]

Make it functional without increasing taxes. It doesn't work.

[quaint venture]

I mean in those situations I can see why people need a car, my point was that if you really wanted to help with climate change then the majority of people should be limited to public transport, it would also mean that adequate public transport would need to built. I always forget that the US is just the car country

[sage sun]

Yes, let's keep wasting money on military expansions that virtually do nothing and go to someone's pockets.

[graceful burrow]

wish we had any say in that

[graceful mortar]

Yep Right after world war II. That's when the American dream started. It helped too that back then money for wars stimulated the economy directly so there was tons of money running around.

[carmine light]

The vast majority of greenhouse gasses are generated by industry and the military. putting the responsibility on individuals is a tactic they use to shirk responsibility

[lilac bear]

everything in US is built for cars

[carmine light]

though we all should do our part

[sage sun]

that industry is why you survive

[graceful mortar]

I mean there are reasons behind it...

You could just say hey we're going to eliminate the military and then just respond whenever somebody does something silly with 20-50 nukes......

just I don't think that that would be beneficial for the globe...

[graceful mortar]

It's important to point out that a large amount of that spending is from damage that we did to soldiers and having to deal with their health care for the rest of their life because of those damages

the human cost is a massive proportion of our spending.

[steep girder]

And yet to this day we see taxes go up and the environmental damage increases.

[carmine light]

Technically, it's just why we thrive. All you need to simply survive is food, shelter, and clean water

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074258

[carmine light]

bread is a good source

[sage sun]

chance is most people in the west are not growing their own food.

[lilac bear]

we need the transport to get food

[graceful mortar]

I haven't seen our taxes go up. Based on current spending they would need to be approximately 30% for every citizen and most people are in the 14% or less tax bracket.

[lilac bear]

do most eastern people really grow their own food?

[sage sun]

no

[graceful mortar]

I have to use a car to get bread.

Like you can't even get ice cream in my state and take public transport because it will not be ice cream by the time you get it home.

That tends to happen when you're sitting outside waiting 30 minutes for the bus and it's 115+ outside.

[sage sun]

yes, maybe make a city that is not a highway my friend.

[steep girder]

Taxes aren't going up but inflation does lol. What's the difference remind me.

[carmine light]

Probably wouldn't hurt if more people did tho

[graceful mortar]

Inflation just requires a bubble to pop for it to come down.

Taxes going down requires an act of Congress which we all know will never occur in an election year so you could be looking at 12 to 14 months before they even consider it.

[steep girder]

Price stays the same for carton of milk but it's half the volume. What inflation? Lol.

[carmine light]

Doesn't take a whole lot of room to do it for yourself

[sage sun]

wouldnt hurt but not really as simple and people wont bother

[quaint venture]

I wouldn't trust people to not poison themselves tbf lol

[carmine light]

lol

[graceful mortar]

That's actually what consumers are now calling greed-flation.

[steep girder]

Inflation requires the only source of it possible to stop printing like 43 trillion dollars every year. Then it stops :P

[graceful burrow]

i just want to be able to afford to live :(

[graceful mortar]

If you're talking about growing food you have to get it permitted and approved and your neighbors get to vote whether or not that should be allowed.

Even if you don't live in an HOA.

[sage sun]

do you really think people living in these apartments can grow food? on a balcony?

[carmine light]

With our current trajectory they might not have a choice lol

[lilac bear]

yes

I mean, no

[carmine light]

It depends on what they're growing

[quaint venture]

Join the military and just have 90% of everything paid for, then you may live (Don't do it, this place sucks ass)

[graceful burrow]

couldnt if i wanted to, born with a heart defect

[carmine light]

That likely highly depends on where ya live.

[steep girder]

Yes ||but sometimes it will have lead in tomato||

[carmine light]

If shit really hit the proverbial fan, I don't think apartment living would be sustainable

[sage sun]

i dont think it is

[lilac bear]

so you can't grow enough food to live in an apartment

[graceful mortar]

That's a very simplistic way to look at the situation. Especially because almost 4 trillion of that goes to elderly care.

I'm more talking about real action.

Like feds raising rates. Why are they still so low? We already have the inflation handbook from the last time we had to deal with this. They're currently at 5.5% fed rate needs to be 18 to 19%.

That'll cause the bubble to burst. The economy will rebuild stronger as long as the government doesn't start injecting capital (2008 🤦) and everybody will be happy.

[quaint venture]

In current society apartment living should be the way we move forward, if all hell broke lose then fuck that shit

[graceful mortar]

Don't do it's not worth it you don't actually have any say in your life. Like literally none.

[sage sun]

but do you now? 🤒

[carmine light]

I think we need to stop concentrating so many people in so few areas

[quaint venture]

I've already been in for a couple years, I'm well aware of the no choice lmfao

[lilac bear]

I'm sure the government is reading each discord message and making sure he goes to bed on time

[low rain]

Finally the room isn’t empty other than my pc it’s been empty for like two weeks

[graceful mortar]

I lived that shit....

[steep girder]

Said no self-aware human ever...

[graceful mortar]

I mean you could you just don't tell them.

Worst thing is that will happen is they'll kick you out if they find out

but as long as you can function they don't go looking for what they don't want to find.

[graceful burrow]

yeah the military totally cant check my medical records for the 4 pacemakers ive had installed so far

[quaint venture]

❓

[graceful burrow]

or just see the fucking huge scar on my abdomen

[graceful mortar]

Okay but then like how will we get to and from places That's the problem people moved where there's jobs
so if I build a facility that needs 4,000 employees I need to have 4,000 eligible workers which means the town has to get bigger.

[carmine light]

UBI lol. But now people hate me just for saying it watch

[graceful mortar]

Just sleep on the floor on a $20 blow up mattress. It's 'fine' for now.

[lilac bear]

"why is this scar here?"
"sir, I ate a 8lb burger, sir"

[graceful mortar]

They genuinely don't.

Like I said they literally don't go looking for what they don't want to find.

We've had people with full-on autism in our ranks.

Granted the physical pacemaker could potentially show up the first time you need a diagnostic scan.

[carmine light]

I did a thing. Now we have a potential emoji. Someone call a mod and make this official

dammit I forgot between the glasses

[low rain]

I have a room upstairs that I used to sleep in but I didn’t have enough room to put my pc in there because I had too many things there

[steep girder]

Jobs is another common swindle. Literally 99% of IT industry produces nothing that is required for even the sector to stay alive. Without energy, goodbye programmer.

Closest thing I've seen was something that optimizes logistics for actual industries. If said industry is affordable/convenient/accessible power at the root... 👍

[low rain]

So I would use my pc downstairs and then sleep upstairs

[graceful burrow]

broski i dont think you understand how involved a pacemaker is lmao

[sage sun]

without energy good bye whole countries so the argument is a bit broad

[graceful mortar]

"Oh I had my appendix removed. It was by a hospital in Mexico I don't have any records."

Them: okay. Welcome to the team.

[graceful burrow]

i got my old pacemaker on my desk
i wanna 3d print a holder for it

[steep girder]

Yeah but energy is that very same thing your body even stores in a way that's accessible and optimal for survival.

[carmine light]

Now, it's perfect. Add it to the list

[quaint venture]

We had a guy that got away with lying about his asthma until week 9 of basic when just collapsed during a stretcher run

[sage sun]

til i run out of it, which i most likely would without industry

[graceful mortar]

I'm just saying I don't think you understand how little they actually look into prior records.

And by how little, I mean zero.

No we had a full-on pyromaniac at one point... Took the third fire for them to realize. 3rd!

But like I'm not saying it would be in your best interest obviously if you know you have a weekend heart the last thing you want to do is strain the fuck out of it

[lilac bear]

I think if the food industry collapsed a lot of people would just starve to death

[steep girder]

Once upon a time that wasn't dee we. To this day we have bosses like siberian bear. Siberian bear the food grows for them magically. No agriculture required lol

[graceful burrow]

nah you dont get it lmao

[quaint venture]

Yeah they kinda just skim your records, but with something like a pace maker it would just pop up as a no no

[sage sun]

of course. it would not be too bad though with all the nasty crap they put in food now to get you addicted though

[graceful burrow]

Anyway this was inside me for very nearly ten full years

3 months short

[olive stump]

pacemaker?

[graceful burrow]

ye

[steep girder]

Vladimir Putin has my retinal scan like the movie Minority Report. I had to do it to renew passport to leave Russia lmfao. Thanks.

[olive stump]

Did it make good paces?

[graceful burrow]

it didnt fail so id say it did good

[olive stump]

hooray!

[carmine light]

A lot more people. It's crazy to think that even as good as it currently is that still happens to people. Just imagine if it collapsed

[graceful burrow]

i ran that mf to the last ounce of juice it had left than a month left before the battery died

[lilac bear]

just force everyone into the basics of food, not a terrible idea

[steep girder]

Pace maker imagine subscription per beat like HP subscription per sheets printed. Time for repo man I guess but IRL

[graceful mortar]

They are so desperate They have a literally assigned a portion of the budget to talk to social media influencers to figure out how to recruit people.
They have waived the vast majority of the entry requirements.
There's no actual entry minimum The only thing you must be able to do is by the end of basic training pass a 60% minimum. Here's the kicker you can be recycled over and over and over again until you hit that 60%. Oh and it counts towards your time and service.
And then you have up to 18 months to hit the bare minimum that gives you a total time distance of approximately 2 years to meet the standard.
Considering you can enlist for as little as 30 months years It's a bit of an issue.

[graceful burrow]

bro do you hvae to space your message out so much jeez

you dont gotta take up half my screen

[sage sun]

i have a little bit trouble believing americans will eat only grain.

i can already imagine the riots

[lilac bear]

some will obviously

[quaint venture]

US military rly struggling lol, UK is desperate but not that desperate

[lilac bear]

but only grain sounds bad unless it's short term

[sage sun]

i guess if you're starving ideology goes out of the window

[graceful mortar]

You have no idea. Like they've always kind of turned a blind eye to bad entries.
One of the recruiters send somebody with like a physical mal formation all the way through. Like what??

[lilac bear]

the riots over the remaining food or demand for food would be crazy though, that makes sense

[sage sun]

well government would not focus on growing animals that require grain

[graceful burrow]

apparently you can donate pacemakers to be put in peoples pets, since they arent suitable for being put back in another human
i wanna keep mine
but it's a nice thought

[carmine light]

My grandparents and great grandparents always had a decent sized garden where they grew staples to help offset grocery costs. It was all seasonal vegetables and then corn. I'm thankful they taught me those skills. It's not that Americans wouldn't do it. It's that we haven't been bad off enough to need it like they did. They grew up through the great depression and all that shit ya know

[steep girder]

If you sterilize it? :P

[carmine light]

They weren't well off either, just lived in the country

[graceful burrow]

they sterilize it before they can give it back to the owner

[quaint venture]

Reminds me of Ephialtes from 300

[graceful mortar]

At this point we don't even feed them grain
We feed them corn because the US government directly subsidizes corn that's also why high fructose corn syrup is such a popular ingredient here.

It's also why e85 never took off as a fuel despite Brazil already proving that alcohol is more effective pollution controlling fuel and completely eliminates foreign oil dependency.

[wheat summit]

what is this

[graceful burrow]

my third pacemaker

[steep girder]

Idk but pacemaker in pet sounds expensive. First time I hear about this.

Oh big dogs right?

[graceful burrow]

ye some old doggies can get pacemakers

[graceful mortar]

In the US people are freaking crazy
My friend own a grooming shop for almost 30 years now. and it's not uncommon for her to hear that somebody has spent $20,000 US dollars keeping their dog alive.

[carmine light]

Eh idk that's pretty uncommon ime

[graceful mortar]

Bear in mind it wasn't like that $20,000 was spent when they were a puppy... It's like $20,000 and the dog lives for another two or three years tops.

[steep girder]

Yeah pets medicine is more expensive than human I heard :(

[quaint venture]

I love my dog (German Shepherd) but my thought process is that once it's time comes naturally I'm not gonna make it suffer by keeping it alive by whatever means

[graceful mortar]

Like I get it help animals out no problem. Well you tell me this stray dog that you managed to capture you just spent $20,000 on it why?

[lilac bear]

maybe it's only common because it happens more often than expected
I don't think most americans are that wealthy

[sage sun]

they aren't poor either lol

[steep girder]

But honestly golden retriever guide doge. Like training went into that doge. Let the doge have a pacemaker. ||Although animals literally can't give consent to anything as it relates to our own rights||

[graceful mortar]

A lot of people it's cuz the dog is suffering or is in pain so then they spend the money.
Also a number of owners feel like euthanizing a dog is like murder.

[wheat summit]

whats a pacemaker?

[graceful mortar]

They aren't. It's a poor use of funds it is not financially recommended in any way shape or form but people do stupid things for the things that they love.

[sage sun]

well you dont euthanize an animal randomly you do it cause they're gonna die anyways because of the illness and pain.

[lilac bear]

PETA is in a weird spot for that

[quaint venture]

I would much rather euthanize my dog then keep it around when it's already on deaths door and suffering

[sage sun]

yeah i mean you gotta euthanize yourself as well when its time to go.

[wheat summit]

no

[graceful burrow]

it makes my heart keep pace, one of the chambers of my heart doesnt beat in rhythm with the other three, so the pacemaker gives it a teensie shock to make it beat on time

[steep girder]

Therein lies the conundrum. You can't even ask a non-human animal what it wants. There is nothing legal (and maybe even scientifically observable emphasized) yet that even communicates an animal's consent to us.

[untold plaza]

bred

[carmine light]

May I present to you a company called "CareCredit". It's a credit card you can use for vet bills and even the dentist. It's a legit thing and they push it at a lot of vet offices. Go into debt to save your pet

[graceful mortar]

For some people they chose dogs over kids and therefore they are willing to do whatever it takes.

I literally know people that have taken reverse mortgages on their home to pay for their dogs care. 🤯🤯🤯

[graceful mortar]

That should be their slogan

[quaint venture]

Depends on what the situation is

[steep girder]

Bred into sausage and since birth spinal problems

#wienerdogissues

[sage sun]

depends but if im a vegetable what's the point lol

[carmine light]

Ikr? We're legit living in a corporate dystopia lol

[quaint venture]

Yeah that's wild, I love my dog last bit of family I have left. But once the time comes then there it is

[graceful mortar]

In the vast majority of the United States It is not allowed. At least not medically assisted.

[lilac bear]

capitalism strikes again that was painful to read

[graceful mortar]

Same. My dog is just beginning to show the signs of age. Not really sure how old she is but I know I got her in 2017 and I would guess she's about a year or two at that time.

[graceful burrow]

dang im surprised nobody asked if i can feel the pacemaker shock my heart
usually thats the first question

[steep girder]

PETA talks about animal rights as if we even figured out human rights already. It doesnt even cross their minds properly. All those donations and gov funding though 👍

[graceful mortar]

Wouldn't be so bad if the spouse didn't teach her how to jump up and down off the bed.... The bed that sits at my hip height. And I'm 6 ft.
And she's 50 lb.

[pure olive]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[quaint venture]

Not allowed in the Uk either I think

[graceful mortar]

I mean. I've watched ER.

[carmine light]

In the US, where I'm from at least, even disregarding the convo of euthenasia, if you do not have a "Do Not Resuscitate" order on file, in writing, the hospital is required to do everything they can to keep you alive. I recently went through this with my dad a couple years ago when he passed unexpectedly from a stroke.

[graceful burrow]

take a guess then

[graceful mortar]

Yeah DNR is about the closest that you will get and that is just because of your right to medical decisions.

[graceful mortar]

Like I want to say yes because of nerves but then at the same time The conductivity of everybody's nerves is a little bit different so it depends on how aggressive that pacemaker is.
So for me I'm 50/50 but I'm going to guess no.

Was I right? Or should I trusted my initial instinct

[steep girder]

Dude apparently PETA-backed services legit sneaked into peoples' back yards after waiting for them to leave. Then they euthanizaed their doges. Thanks PETA. It's the animals' right for them to get lethal injection after we kidnap it. Consent? Idk tbh. Owners definitely didn't give consent but let's shift our focus on flowers... flowers are nature.... do you love nature, arsewipe? DO YOU? Well stop using gas car and buy EV from China because it's green. It kills animals less (don't look at great barrier reef tho because it's banned on FB)

[graceful burrow]

you can only feel defib pacemakers when they engage defib mode
and that's more just from trauma the electricity causes

mine is not a defib unit

[sage sun]

this seems like a facebook comment on some random article

[steep girder]

You have pacemaker? :0

[graceful burrow]

since i was 3

[graceful mortar]

So yours is more modulating the signal versus generating the signal.

[graceful burrow]

no its generating

[carmine light]

It's kinda like a metronome for your heart right? Keep's the ticker on beat?

[graceful burrow]

it shocks my heart every beat

[quaint venture]

Feel like I just travelled back a few years

[graceful mortar]

So you literally have no baseline signals.

[steep girder]

:0 True. It charges from your biomass somehow?

[graceful burrow]

no lmao

[steep girder]

Or gyro idk. How does it charge lol

[graceful burrow]

it doesnt charge

[pure olive]

magik

[graceful burrow]

this is gonna sound like im making it up but im deadass
you'll never fucking guess when my first pacemaker was installed

[graceful mortar]

So no pacemaker. Means no electrical heart activity whatsoever for you? Not just like a non-sustaining wave. But like none?

[graceful burrow]

no, one of the chambers of my heart just doesnt beat on time so the pacemaker keeps it in line

[carmine light]

Oh you said "when" not where

my bad

[graceful mortar]

At birth?

[wheat summit]

why do u need it

[steep girder]

Nah it's not for that. It's for maintaining pretty sure

[graceful burrow]

think "major united states events"

[steep girder]

Your body gets enough energy for electro-chemical signal through nerve to beat heart. I don't see any reason why pacemaker can't

[carmine light]

9/11

[graceful burrow]

bingo

[carmine light]

It's always 9/11 lol

[pure olive]

july 2nd 1776

[graceful mortar]

Right before we went to go finish Dad war 😉

[carmine light]

That's a thing being worked on. The issue is they can't just toss new tech in people's hearts. They have to rely on tried and true, vetted technology. Right now, typical batteries can last a long time and pacemakers generally don't need a lot of current

[graceful burrow]

this is my medtronic card i keep on my person at all times just incase i need to interact with an ambulance or whatever
the cards only show the first and current pacemakers, dunno why, the first card i had for this also only had my first and third

[lilac bear]

the only environment ruined is China's and the ocean, not the Great American Soil 😉

[pure olive]

@graceful burrow do you have to get it replaced every so often?

[carmine light]

You should get a tattoo of it. Is that a thing?

[graceful burrow]

every 8-10 years depending on activity

[graceful burrow]

of my implant dates?

im not gonna walk around with 9/11 on my arm lmao

[graceful mortar]

can you just get a tatoo?

[graceful burrow]

i already have a tattoo

[carmine light]

idk of whatever the EMT might need to see in an emergency

[pure olive]

i assume more strenuous work makes eat more battery?

[graceful burrow]

ye

[carmine light]

just to let them know in case you're unconscious

[pure olive]

makes sense

[graceful mortar]

so no marathins?

[carmine light]

could be a cool tattoo anyway

[graceful burrow]

my valuable skin tho

[graceful mortar]

med braclet too i presume? just incase

[graceful burrow]

no amusement park rides that use magnets (most), electromagnets, or contact sports

[pure olive]

if you get defibulated will it destroy it?

[graceful burrow]

havent tried

[carmine light]

True. I have a weird perspective I guess because I already hate so many of my dumb tats lol. I've got nothing to lose

[graceful mortar]

ill ask the real question. can you over clock it?

[carmine light]

That's called Tachycardia, and it (can) kill ya

[pure olive]

its called having a higher heart rate

[low rain]

I just don’t wanna be like 65 yrs old wrinkly as fuck with wrinkly tattoos

[graceful mortar]

i presume its liquid cooled?

[graceful burrow]

we could consider the clock how often it has to shock
which means it turbos when it needs

[pure olive]

this movie is cool as fuck

[graceful burrow]

when i go in for checkups they turn the pacemaker off to test it

and i feel that
my resting heart rate is 45

[graceful mortar]

🤘 🚀

[pure olive]

thats not good

[graceful burrow]

i'd been clocked at 75 bpm my entire life, until this pacemaker
they clock it at 60 now to let me vibe better

[graceful mortar]

i mean. lower indicates overall health. to a point

[graceful burrow]

my heart rate wont go under 60 unless something is horribly wrong

[steep girder]

:/

[graceful burrow]

it used to be 25
my heart's gotten stronger over the years

[carmine light]

Dang that's cool. My GF went to college on a track scholarship, and she's from a place with high elevation. Her resting heart rate is damn near that low it's nuts.

[light flint]

Does it hurt to have a pacemaker?

[graceful burrow]

depends
do you mean hurt in the day to day, or hurt to get it installed

[light flint]

day to day

[graceful burrow]

once everything's healed you dont even notice

[light flint]

Okay

[steep girder]

Shouldn't it be 100bpm like Stayin' Alive?

[graceful burrow]

i can push on it and feel it on my abdomen
i know where it is in me at all times, like i do feel that

[steep girder]

There's systolic and diastolic pressure idk I failed bio. Was 60bpm the low number whatever that is idk

[lilac bear]

can't imagine having a BPM of 25

[pure olive]

I have a high resting heart rate

[graceful mortar]

no manually prefuse the heart dueing resuscitation yes.,

[grim wing]

if anyone wants to play ow I want to run some comp games I got no clue what rank I am prob gold, dm me to join

[graceful burrow]

cringe OW

[pure olive]

no thanks

[graceful burrow]

1v1 me quake 1

[lilac bear]

OW more like debt simulator

[steep girder]

aerowalk?

[pure olive]

woah its a time dilation tunnel

[carmine light]

104 bpm, to be precise...and that's only because they were on all the cocaine when they recorded it

[graceful mortar]

Cocaine + Tazer = death. stay inside on coco caineee

[steep girder]

I'll die by self-rocket aerowalk 69 times btw. Especially qw

Let's get it

[graceful burrow]

idk what that is i wont lie

[steep girder]

:(