public-chat

[karmic wedge]

Surely someone has posted this already but literally this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNBQHlxUGog

Been on my mind after they announced the investigation of such matters

[sand pumice]

Personally, I have a lot of faith in Linus.. but when you have 100 employees or more things slip through the cracks

[narrow olive]

I don't think they'd say who. I think it'd be something along the lines of: x amount of people were fired for conduct unbecoming, x amount of people received high level disciplinaries, x amount of people received standard level disciplinaries, x amount of people received written warnings

[unborn estuary]

y'all speculating as if this will affect the outcome 💀

[karmic wedge]

Must've been some hella awkward after work drinks that Friday evening

[sand pumice]

Fair enough

[gleaming compass]

Yeah, that is what caused the issue to build up into lawsuits at Riot and Blizzard/Activision

[narrow olive]

So you don't think that they replied was because maybe it's the right thing to do? It's not Linus's choice anymore, he's not CEO. It's the right thing to do and not launching an investigation could potentially have more legal consequences (Disclaimer, I am not a Canadian Citizen and as such do not know the laws)

[sand pumice]

Linus needs to hire a third-party to run HR

[karmic wedge]

They do. Leaked meeting says so

[sand pumice]

Good

[uncut valve]

When is LMG coming back?

[sand pumice]

Wait what leaks

[karmic wedge]

Would they encourage people to go to the HR firm? Fxxk no.

[sand pumice]

Why

[karmic wedge]

Do they say that however? Yes.

[narrow olive]

Third party only to run HR doesn't work well. I've experienced it first hand. They've got a third party for anonymous reports which is good

[gleaming compass]

You also went through working for Insperity? :P

[sand pumice]

Well how do you run an effective HR? If people in HR are socialising regularly with the rest of the employees what if you need to make a complaint about someone in HR for example

Well views went up, but I really agree that he needs to work on information

[karmic wedge]

This is your daily reminder that you must always take in a wide selection of media in order to get the full picture

[sand pumice]

I am so excited for lab it would also be interesting to see how many companies launch lawsuits against them if they accidentally publish false information like they doing videos occasionally

[unborn estuary]

ngl after a while it's bound to happen once you cover literally everything

[unborn estuary]

bro people are braindead lmao idk what you're expecting outta an audience that has squirrel attention spans

[gleaming compass]

In the USA, that is the point in which you file a complaint with the EEOC (Equal Employment Opportunity Commission)

[narrow olive]

I worked for the UK branch of Vestas 😛

Manager: So how many of [Redacted] can you test a year?
Me: We can test a maximum of 12

2 hours later

Manager: Ok, I've booked in 25 tests for this year...

[gleaming compass]

Oh.

[gleaming compass]

You make it sound like working for Vestas .... /blows/ :P

[narrow olive]

At that point, you go to the external HR company.

[narrow olive]

The wage and benefits? Not actually that bad for the area. Everything else? Yeah, no.

[gleaming compass]

Oh, I was trying to make a wind turbine joke

[narrow olive]

That really sucks 😛

||I was completely oblivious sorry||

I'm bad at socialising, whistles back to my cave I go

[gleaming compass]

Look forward to the new Snow White movie? :P

[narrow olive]

😛 Funnily enough I know one of the people playing one of the characters in that

[gleaming compass]

Nice. I just find it comical how many people are loosing their poop that Disney would make changes to the story. Disney has ALWAYS made changes to the story. The 1937 Snow White was not at all faithful to the book!

[sick coral]

me when no mcdonalds toy

[narrow olive]

I've had so many arguments with my grandparents about it! Their convinced it's part of the 'woke agenda'

[gleaming compass]

You know how many times McDonaolds has been sued over their happy meal toys :P

[gleaming compass]

You could say that about choices made in several of the Marvel movies then :P

[sick coral]

its sad how close minded older folx are

i dont blame them, i blame fox news who keeps feeding them stuff to be mad about

[gleaming compass]

Well, they may have a point sometimes. This whole LTT scandal wouldn't have happen if we stuck with using punch cards and not introduced all these new fangled streaming things.

[narrow olive]

Yup. It's kinda sad, my nan is relatively open to newer idea's about things and understands my viewpoint but it leads to conflict with my grandad because he just... doesn't. He's never moved more than 20 miles from where he grew up and views practically everything new with disdain

[sick coral]

wdym

[gleaming compass]

Uh, I guess you are too young for punch card jokes.

[narrow olive]

Their not always close minded, they just take time to work around. For example they thought disneys warning with the old disney movies was stupid until they actually read the lyrics to some of the songs in the films. And both my grandparents and me are UK so no Fox news 😛

[narrow olive]

https://tenor.com/view/clock-out-time-clock-dinosaur-the-flinstones-gif-11621936

[unborn estuary]

the older you get the more stubborn you get

[narrow olive]

God I loved the Flintstones

[unborn estuary]

simple formula; it's always been true

[gleaming compass]

Plenty of examples of workplace harassment in some of those episodes :P

[narrow olive]

I mean the old cartoons have plenty of examples of lots of things not acceptable anymore

😛

[sick coral]

isnt fred a sexist fashist

[full fossil]

Morning Bread lovers

[gleaming compass]

Even when you fast forward to shows like The Office or Big Bang Theory there is plenty of examples of the main character being rewarded for something that should have resulted in a workplace harassment investigation and revised training

[narrow olive]

I don't know, I just remember enjoying it when I was little

[gleaming compass]

He is a re-iteration of The Honeymooners in cartoon form :P

[full fossil]

it's taken me a hour to reinstall windows to a new drive, well an hour to figure out why it wasn't booting

[gleaming compass]

We are supposed to stop using IDE/PATA drives :P

[full fossil]

it's weird it did the same thing that happened last time

now my system has 2 nvme drives

[narrow olive]

Oh for sure. I remember not finding Big Bang Theory funny and my dad would say 'wait until your older, it's adult humour' and now I'm older I watch it... 'adult' humour is... dogshit at times

[gleaming compass]

shrug It worked for MASH for so many years :P

[full fossil]

anyway now to spend all day installing stuff

[gleaming compass]

The thing I really liked about Breaking Bad is you knew the creators of the show intended the main character to be a bad guy

[narrow olive]

I used to do anything possible to avoid reinstalling stuff... 5 mbps download wasn't fun

[narrow olive]

I've never actually watched Breaking Bad, I should. I think it's on my list tbf

[gleaming compass]

You don't just start with Ninite? :P

[gleaming compass]

Did you ever watch Game of Thrones?

[thin fjord]

be sure to get better call saul on there too they're a combo deal

[full fossil]

oh shoot ninite i forgot about that

i used it once and forgot about it

[gleaming compass]

oh, and I thought I was just making a joke

[narrow olive]

I watched the first few episodes and couldn't get into it. My dad enjoyed it and we'd watch some of the big fights together, Battle of the Bastards for example. My issue is that I love going back to comfort shows like BSG

[narrow olive]

Will do!

[gleaming compass]

Original BSG or reboot? Because those two are very different shows

[dusty rune]

def do it
its great

[narrow olive]

Reboot. I've got the Entire reboot on Blueray with Blood and Chrome and Razor

[dusty rune]

if you want to get the most lore, watch BCS then BB

[gleaming compass]

Did you try to sit through Caprica? :P

[narrow olive]

Many thanks! I'll make a note of it, might take me some time to get through it 😛 I've got a lot of things to watch/play

[narrow olive]

I did... once 😛

[dusty rune]

im warning you though, the start is very boring in both

[gleaming compass]

Are you willing to try pre-HD tv shows? You should try Babylon 5

It is amazing what B5 accomplished at a time before 3D video cards and using Commodore Amigas

[narrow olive]

I grew up watching G1 Transformers, Original Thundercats and He-Man. I can deal with pre-HD 😛

[gleaming compass]

Did you try Netflix's reboot of Voltron?

Thundercats got weird

I think Thundercats would have been unwatchable if it wasn't for Snarf. They used that character to clue the viewer into not taking the show too seriously.

[narrow olive]

I haven't, no. I often prefer comfort shows because of the exact reason their comfort shows 😛 I've only recently watched Invincible for example, even though it's been out for a few years now

[gleaming compass]

I haven't seen Invincible

I did like J.K. Simmons in Portal 2

"I am the man who blew up your house! With lemons!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt6iTwVIiMM

^ the perfect video game moment

[empty pollen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM-CIvMEqUs

[full fossil]

ight system is up and running, everything is snappy

[full fossil]

Watch itttt

[hollow scroll]

Where is the new vidddd

[full fossil]

yea it's weird not seeing a new LTT vid

[cosmic elm]

The Expanse, For All Mankind and Foundation 👌👌👌

[full fossil]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66599733.amp we all saw this coming lol

[novel plank]

confirmed dead on telegram

[fossil frost]

said to a mate of mine yesterday, im surprised it took this long for him to be assassinated

[dull tapir]

anyone knows if orientation of power sw matter

some people say it does some say it has no polarity

[neon mesa]

What an unfortunate freak accident!
That malfunctioned heatseeking missile just so happen to hit the plane perfectly

At least they didn't get the fall out of window disease

[olive stump]

New defenestration high jump world record holder

[normal cargo]

Dodged a plutonium latte there

[pastel dove]

freak accident just like this segway to our sponsor...

[charred spade]

segue, or was that deliberate?

[rare trout]

🍞

Idk. They said after about a week or so. Didn't count how many days have passed

[simple quail]

honestly I'm surprised it took this long

[full fossil]

I had a dream of watching a techlinked and a short circuit lol

My brain is craving tech tips

[keen cradle]

bawls

ive actually got life in jail rn

i went on a murderous rampage for ltt /s

[azure grove]

I need my ltt fix soon

[dull granite]

we know

[dusty rune]

who tf is that

[dull granite]

so basically there is a PMC

called Wagner Group, they're basically a bunch of far right fascism guys who kill people

they're responsible for a lot of war crimes in ukraine (they got hired by russian military)

in june 2023, they "attempted" a coup d'etat but negotiated it away before anything really went down
and now - Prigozhin, Wagner's leader, is dead - probably because he pissed them off a lot

this is TL;DR of the entire thing @dusty rune

[obsidian palm]

hi

[pastel dove]

https://tenor.com/view/threat-level-american-gif-18098665

[crude jasper]

<@&750150305383186585>

Keep it related to LTT and Tech

[frail steeple]

i miss cheems

[full fossil]

same

killer cheemstar

[fierce moth]

Rip CRT fuse

[stuck rapids]

has anyone heard anything new recently?

[full fossil]

Yes I recently heard about warm pumpernickel

[harsh quartz]

I have been summoned

[full fossil]

[mellow ridge]

[full fossil]

With butter it’s so good
I remember hating it as a kid because I thought it was chocolate bread

[harsh quartz]

No it’s outback bread

[empty fulcrum]

Can someone link me a list of useful websites that have practical applications?

Like the website about barcodes and the products they were assigned to? (forgot the name)

[polar fern]

Uh

[fierce moth]

Google is your friend, mate

[harsh quartz]

This is just called a web browser

[empty fulcrum]

Beyond just web browsers

Let me think of another example

[harsh quartz]

No I mean a compiled list of useful websites is literally just a web browser, of which there are plenty

[empty fulcrum]

Oh

Could you list some?

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-gif-18013803

[normal cargo]

Even if it wasn't I'm giving them credit for it, was peak pun

[gilded forge]

VirusTotal

[harsh quartz]

Limewire

Downloadmoreram

[fierce moth]

100% legit

[harsh quartz]

It’s a practical website

[lavish elm]

i am struggling to do simple lines

[harsh quartz]

Using a credit card and a rolled dollar bill can help

[lavish elm]

ohh i got the joke

[gilded forge]

git gudder

[granite path]

Not gonna lie, living without ltt has been awesome. Never realised how much being bombarded with 15 videos a day restricted my exploration of youtube, learnt so much about motorbikes

[strange elk]

I thought it was initially but still liked it

[strange elk]

dies without tech news but necessary.

[granite path]

I have my parents to thank for a healthy respect of the power those monsters can wield, and the shit-tastic abilty of australian drivers. But holyy do they look so fun and badass...

[unreal glacier]

Will this discord ever have a Apple/Mac channel just like how it has one for Linux?

[strange elk]

Apple doesn't do unauthorized 3rd party support

Odd considering Mac Address though

[unreal glacier]

lol true

[full fossil]

my pc feels new and fresh again

[harsh quartz]

My pc has no feelings

[fierce moth]

Although their software is so archaic you couldn't give support anyways

[full fossil]

although for some reason i couldn't boot with 24GB of ram so im gonna have try and use 16GB until i get a new board and new ram next month

something i have learned is filling up all 4 slots causes more problems than looking cool

Ayo

[harsh quartz]

24gb is such a cursed number for ram

[full fossil]

well i had 32GB but either the lot or the dim is dead

at this point idk whats broken

[full fossil]

Triple channel 8gb

yea i was told running 3 sticks is not best

[harsh quartz]

Or 2 8s and 2 4s

[full fossil]

it might be the fact my ballstix are just a bad batch

[harsh quartz]

Or 4 6s, all options are just cursed

[full fossil]

because it was working fine with 32GB for years until 8 months ago

and then just when i was about to reinstall windows to my new nvme it wouldn't boot with 3

[timid meadow]

Ddr4 or 5? Ddr5 doesnt really like more then 2 sticks

[full fossil]

I have a 1 gb ddr4 stick at home in my server it has 69 gbs of ram

ddr4

[timid meadow]

Oh then yea thats weird

[harsh quartz]

Where the fuck did you find 1gb ddr4? Who makes that shit

[full fossil]

tbh when people see my system or when i talk about they ask what do with my pc

[full fossil]

It was in a server 😭

[harsh quartz]

Again, why was that even made

[full fossil]

if anything i just installed to much stuff to it over the last 3 years

[full fossil]

Idk it has one memory chip on it

It had like 5 of them in the server

That's how I got 69 gb

[manic torrent]

... mine works fine

[solemn dagger]

where LTT video at?

[thin fjord]

somewhere

[oak epoch]

came here to ask the same thing

[full fossil]

i will say i have taken my ram out more than i cant count

trying to fix the rgb over the years

now the boards like no we don't accept your sticks anymore

[uneven rampart]

Does anyone know when videos will start combing out again? It has been a week.

[full fossil]

wish i just bought the corsair ram like i should of done

yea idk maybe they need longer

[thin fjord]

real

[full fossil]

i was just impatient fool 3 years ago

[thin fjord]

no date has been given

[oak epoch]

I mean... they did say they will start posting in a week

and said week has passed

[solemn dagger]

yep

especially since they already had videos ready to go

[full fossil]

when people say that they generally don't mean it literally

[solemn dagger]

lol

[oak epoch]

just like they dont mean that they sell things when they auction things

[cyan pier]

it has been a week already?

[oak epoch]

yes

[cyan pier]

damn dud, time flies so fast

[full fossil]

DeArrow makes their last video title sound more realistic

[graceful mortar]

Anyone else miss being young with fast cars? I'm boring Work truck life now with a 95mph speed limiter. I miss my 170MPH monsters. https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxK2tIgwrVTBsPh7rndlfkv_cg2uZkJbJT?si=HZTB5525IRfmdXHX

[cyan pier]

at least you can go 95mph on a truck

[supple yoke]

I wonder what there 1st video will be when they start releasing again

[cyan pier]

majority of trucks are set at like, 100kph?

[graceful mortar]

I mean you SHOULDN'T. Lol over 80 is pretty interesting lol.

[supple yoke]

And how long will this Wan show be and will it be on time lol

[graceful mortar]

Diesel Pickup truck

[cyan pier]

oh

I thought you were talking about lorries

[graceful mortar]

'I've been away a while'

[supple yoke]

@graceful mortar I was thinking maybe something with Madison

[graceful mortar]

No. Though they can do 80+mph here in the US.
But most companies have trackers so they tend to do no more than 70 to prevent auto alerts.

[graceful mortar]

Oh. We aren't getting that for a few months until both investigations are complete.

You'll have personal defense lawyers involved for employees etc.

Gonna be a while.

[manic torrent]

I'm old and my fast car is in the driveway

[cyan pier]

then you got people that are impatient as fuck

[harsh quartz]

Bruh who tf is casually going 95mph

[graceful mortar]

Life goes on, and we drift deeper, drift deeper

[supple yoke]

I'm happy that they are using a independent and two different investigation. It show that they are serous about it.

[neon mesa]

either outcome would be quite explosive ngl

but i don't know which would be crazier

[supple yoke]

Mines been sitting for almost a year 😐 wish I could ge regi done and drive it again but it's missing a few part they say I need like a cat

[olive stump]

🍞

[manic torrent]

lol, I mean it .... it doesn't work, the stereo is hanging out and it needs an oil leak fixed and stuff, but hey

[graceful mortar]

I live in the desert Southwest. 65 zone reduced to 55 we cruise 70-75.

On 101 it's a 65. Flow of traffic is 80-84 fast Lane 90-ish

Over 84 is a criminal violation in my state. Where as most it's just civil.

[graceful mortar]

I feel you. Life happened so we had to liquidate the fun stuff. Now the fun stuff isn't 33k it's 60k 🤯

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, anything 20+ over is a reckless driving charge here, but our interstate is 70, most people go 80, reduced to 55 in construction zone, where everyone still goes 70, but it’s rare to have people running 90+ here

[narrow olive]

Where I live in the UK people will cruise on the motorway at 90MPH in the slow lane

[supple yoke]

Mine runs just finished doing the head with stage 2 cam, only thing how hooked up for me is NOS and methyl-hyrate

[harsh quartz]

At that speed y’all can cross the island in half an hour, where y’all trying to get that fast?

[narrow olive]

_>

[supple yoke]

Gotta love inflation....

[gilded forge]

Bandicam sitll exists 💀

[untold schooner]

So when are the vids comin back

[narrow olive]

They haven't said

[harsh quartz]

When you least expect it

[graceful mortar]

Blue is where they tried putting cameras. And They were regularly catching people over 105 miles an hour.

Then drivers got smart and realized that it was an independent company that they didn't actually have to pay the tickets. And voted for the cameras to be immediately removed via petition because people were slamming on the brakes from 100 miles an hour down to 55 and it kept causing not only accidents but traffic.

Orange is very few exits and entrances and people don't really bunch up they just run really fast. Typically around 80 to 85.

[untold schooner]

Yea ik they said one week, I guess maybe next Monday? Or

[harsh quartz]

Ahh, a big city, yeah that’ll happen, we’re still a small-medium city so we don’t really have traffic cameras but we don’t have too too many people going THAT far over the speed limit anyways

[full fossil]

the videos like/dislike ratio is 50/50

[graceful mortar]

It's not just inflation it's companies getting real real greedy as the fun car market completely disappears.

I drove the Kona N which is not really my flavor of car but the Elantra was unavailable.

It was just okay. Come I'm coming from a previous fiesta ST owner yeah I felt the BMW m division heritage in it but..... Not for I believe 35,000.

Needed more spice, more zest, more expressiveness, more fun.

[full fossil]

im currently watching as i didn't last week

[narrow olive]

Maybe

[wheat summit]

how to get bread role?!?

🍞

[graceful mortar]

We don't either they've tried to vote to put them back on the highway and everybody goes nope they are a safety hazard!

We do still have some red light cameras but most of them have been removed.

School zones is a different story those still have cameras.

We also have more than a couple cameras that are regularly activated but because they don't have signs warning that there's a camera ahead they can't do anything with the tickets that it produces.

[wheat summit]

e

[graceful mortar]

Oh I still have the game. And I still play it 💪💪

But that's real life

[wheat summit]

watch whole vid

[narrow olive]

<@&750150305383186585>

[wheat summit]

hey its just banter

[supple yoke]

That is very true especially in the states I seen dealer sell a car to a friend just to rebuy it back just to sell it for 20 to 50k over msrp since it used now...

And I tried the N series too I wasn't that impressed it felt like it was more luxury then sporty...

Cars need a lot more spice. And it might be hard with everything going electric now

[wheat summit]

dont need to alert mods

[narrow olive]

You've been spamming it

[wheat summit]

ok im sorry

i thought u guys didnt see it bruh

[supple yoke]

You have time to play games still I wish

[wheat summit]

when are they posting again

i have nothing to watch 😦

[graceful mortar]

What I had no idea when I bought my 2017 ST and then later my 2019 ST.... That I was driving the penultimate front-wheel drive car.

Everything else and I mean everything else is boring.

I don't need 500 horsepower not really going to do more than 90 mph sustained at any point in time.

I just want something that's super fun, lightweight, and you can use all the performance nearly all of the time without going to jail.

[supple yoke]

I agree you look at the older cars from the earlier 2000 time frame were only 200-250hp but light and great suspension and you could take corners going 30 to 50 no problem. I miss my old protege5 turbo that thing could keep up with some porsche

[full fossil]

Civic Type R moment

[graceful mortar]

Hell I drove my buddies 2010 Camaro SS a few hundred miles, and that was my takeaway.

was it was so competent it was boring.

Don't get me wrong I liked the car. And I appreciated the engineering that went into it. But no drama, no pantomime, no excitement.

[supple yoke]

My car I'm working on now and been for a while is my cobalt ss 07 with a 1.9L supercharger. But can't get it on the road since I modified the he'll out of it

[full fossil]

Exactly how I felt with the Supra.
Oh joy! I get to push this car to 20% maximum! Hooray!

[graceful mortar]

I had a 2019.... The only time it felt exciting was doing a 120 to 150 pull on the highway when you felt the downforce build.

What was much less exciting was right around 70 which is when it wants to begin building downforce.

The car is a bit too edgy and eager to turn in. Makes it fast on the track, makes it a pain in the ass to deal with on the highway.

In the city there's too much lag couldn't get the power like you wanted to and then it would just rip the tires off the road.

And I guess the biggest one is it felt really big because it was massive compared to the ST even though it only weighed 300 pounds more.

It lacked that ultimate pinpoint accuracy that you got with the ST.

[full fossil]

Just drive a miata then

[graceful mortar]

My biggest issue with the SS superstars was that the SS turbo came out and solved every single engineering flaw that the supercharged one had.

And you can get stage 2 from the factory and put down over $270 horsepower to the ground.

Hell GM even had a stage 3 with provision for a 50 shot of nitrous that made $290 to the ground and 340 pound feet of torque! In a car that weighed 2,700 lb 🤯🤯🤯

[graceful mortar]

I mean. I need somewhere to put my 50 lb husky.

[graceful mortar]

I drove the Miata in the RX8 back to back I actually preferred the RX8 a little bit more but Miata was definitely the sportier one.

That was back when the RX-8 were available brand new

[supple yoke]

But the turbo engine were a lot weaker then the supercharged one, and gm has the stages kits for the supercharger version too.

And I know, before I blew my trans I was doing high 11

And I skipped all the gm stage kit and went right for the larger 1900 supercharger that was able to replace the small poc

I also got hit by a rx8 so I kinda have a sour taste for them but I would live to get a miata

[graceful mortar]

And that whine. 🤤I feel you

I'll never forget wowing people when I explain to them that the kobalt SS turbo set the fastest front wheel drive record at the nurburgring and was one of the only cars with a full interior and not plastic windows to ever do so 💪💪

🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

Too bad Cruze never got the SS treatment. That chassis was a complete banger!

[supple yoke]

I know I believe it even beat a lot of cars like the GTR and supra...

And yes I love when people hear me whine passing them!

My buddy has a cruze that put too much money into slow car but great for autocross

[graceful mortar]

8:22.85 -cobalt Turbo 2008

Honda claimed 7:44.881 for 19 Type R... Butttt nobody's been able to actually successfully replicate that with a stock car.

[narrow olive]

But can your car do this

https://tenor.com/view/wheelie-stunt-2019indian-ftr1200s-motorcycle-motorbike-gif-14718859

[graceful mortar]

The cruise desperately needed The cobalt SS engines. Either the 2.4 normally aspirated or the 2.0 turbo

[graceful mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-traffic-car-race-gif-14739892

[supple yoke]

Oh or what a lot of people did and took the 2.4 and turbo it cause that engine was way overbuilt

[graceful mortar]

That hidden wheelie bar and those smoke cannons tho

[narrow olive]

https://tenor.com/view/motorcycle-tricks-gif-8824406

[graceful mortar]

🤫 stop giving away secrets.

[graceful mortar]

But like why? World tinniest roundabout?

[supple yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-worried-oh-no-anxious-gif-11565777

[narrow olive]

Because why not

[supple yoke]

He has agood point

[graceful mortar]

Like when are you ever going to use that tactic?

[supple yoke]

Why does my car has NOS... because why not

[narrow olive]

I'm just poking fun, I like both Car's and Motorbike. Bikes are just a little more special to me because their the first vehicle I got

[supple yoke]

Just like wagons for me

[graceful mortar]

So I learned to ride a bike. And then I was going to buy one.

Then I started to watch how people behaved around bikes in my cities and realized.

I've never been particularly good at contact sports......

I learned on a Honda 600RR iirc

[supple yoke]

I would get a bike but we only have like 3 months to ride before snow come and then after they clean the sand off the roads

[narrow olive]

Neither have I. I learnt that on the first of January this year The car was apparently worse then the bike though

[graceful mortar]

Fairbanks was like that. I was like do you guys really own motorcycles here because you literally can only drive them safely 60 days a year tops.

[narrow olive]

600RR is a very powerful bike to learn on... Not what I'd recommend but probably a difference in countries

[supple yoke]

That's why I would rather get and ATV or SXS then a bike but that's because our trails our better shape then our roads

[graceful mortar]

🤷 I was umm... A bit unimpressed.

Like yeah it had performance Yes it was quick but...

I couldn't help but feel like I would have wanted more torque

I think a lot of that's because the lightweight of the bike tends to hide its speed.

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/death-grips-mc-ride-rapper-smile-gif-16149905

Cough cough embed fail!

[dull granite]

this is the oldest customer complaint in history

[dull granite]

#JusticeForNanni
get this man his copper

[full fossil]

This bitch ahh boy tried to sell me laced skooma

[graceful mortar]

From Madame Karen

[graceful mortar]

It's really annoying though because they tend to favor the most like full size accessible roads. And they proceed to do a bajillion miles an hour down though and now they have washboards that'll take your doors off.... Literally unscrew your doors.

Our local SxS riders ...

[narrow olive]

If your used to high torque car's, you'll always feel as though a sportbike doesn't have enough torque. It's also an inline 4, if you want a fast but relatively high torque bike you'd be better off looking at something like the MT-09

[supple yoke]

Well I can't say that I haven't taken my alltrack on trails...

[graceful mortar]

We had a rolling joke going on that we should just all buy goldwings.... 🤣 Though I don't remember the last time I saw a Gold Wing hit by a car.

[sullen iron]

My car runs off 🍞

[pale osprey]

volvo 2.5t motor makes tons of tq

[narrow olive]

Last time I saw a car hit a Goldwing.... The Goldwing needed a new panier and the rider a new pair of trousers... The car driver needed a new car, no joke

[graceful mortar]

But do you do 60 to 70 miles an hour around full size traffic doing literally 12 on a blind curve?

With over-inflated tires hopping up and down putting washboards in the road?

Bear in mind everybody out here moves to the right and pulls over when safe to do so to allow them to pass.

But they for some reason think that all of our rigs have carbon ceramic brakes and that we are willing slam on the brakes so they can get over before they have a head-on collision.

[supple yoke]

What we need to do is get something like a little 50cc scooter and put an 5000w electric motor in it and just smoke the bikes 🏍

[narrow olive]

Myself personally, I'm the opposite. Every time I'm in a car, it feels slow and lumbering but then again, I've spent more time riding bikes than driving cars

[supple yoke]

Nope that just sounds absolutely ridiculous 🙄 but there always gonna be stupid people around just more in some places then others

[graceful mortar]

Mopeds have an advantage on track apparently

[supple yoke]

I dont have yo deal with it too much since our population is low

My town double it population in summer because we live on a military training base

[full fossil]

looks like bread

[graceful mortar]

Oh fun. White sands?

[red breach]

me in my chevy bolt on the highway vibes lol

[supple yoke]

I'm in canada so no, Gagetown one or the largest military training base in North America

[pale osprey]

i used to live near the trenton base

[graceful mortar]

Arguably the best EV ever made

[pale osprey]

no lol

[undone inlet]

windows recovery is just windows 7 striped down

[supple yoke]

Same I was out in Kingston, flew out of Trenton a few times

[graceful mortar]

I remember when I was on my path to become a junior racer 😪

https://twitter.com/Toby_Christie/status/1694178165306867891?t=ebLU5vmY3e9Q8OcZ7E_VMQ&s=19

Toby Christie (@Toby_Christie)

We live in such a cool timeline. If you told me five years ago that we’d have in car video of @DaleJr passing @Bobby_Labonte in a Mazda Miata at @MartinsvilleSwy, I’d say you were nuts. But here we are, and I love it!

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[undone inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074260

[graceful mortar]

More efficient than the Tesla model 3 in real world testing.

[undone inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/rickroll-gif-24538653

[graceful mortar]

And most importantly $19,999

[red breach]

I've had 2. My EV was arguably, the EUV just... is 🫦

supercruise is a delivery of Elon's snake oil. True hands free self driving just... push button and sit back

[dull granite]

616, the Mark of the Beast

[pale osprey]

there used to be this one c5 galaxy that would always fly over our farm

[graceful mortar]

Euv is too tall, too heavy.
Though my biggest complaint with EVs has to do with highway efficiency because that's where the range actually matters.

See inoiq 5 vs 6

[red breach]

The EV has a lot of weird compromises, thin uncomfy seats, kinda loud and the ride quality was just very meh

here's the deal the EUV isn't any taller. it's an optical illusion

[pale osprey]

lol where did you get that price. they start at 42k$

[supple yoke]

I am just waiting for them to release a soild state battery when the range will double if not triple

[red breach]

it's increased weight comes from the 3" longer wheelbase, 6" longer body -- that's made from steel instead of aluminum. I've owned 2 aluminum cars - a Cadillac CTS and my Bolt. Normal people shouldn't own aluminum cars, they're stupid expensive to get "undented" and PDR is virutally impossible without super skills that normal body shop dudes don't have

[red breach]

They're 27k + 7,500 rebate

https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/bolt-ev $26,500 in the USA - $7500 fed credit = $19,000 - one of the cheapest new cars period, and it's an EV

[pale osprey]

.im looking at the gm site right now. 23 lt fwd msrp of 41574

[supple yoke]

I always hated those plans so loud hard to sleep on them

[graceful mortar]

20% more efficient. Where range matters the most.

[red breach]

but the EUV also fixes all of my complaints with the EV model. The seats are much better, the longer wheelbase smooths out the ride just a little bit, no cadillac but it's no worse than a corolla now

[undone inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-jelly-bread-sandwich-toast-gif-25544652

[full fossil]

Most of the “compromises” of EVs are just manufacturers fucking around

[graceful mortar]

But it physically sits taller like there's more front ground clearance and it's wider so it has a bigger frontal area

[red breach]

in 2017 when the Bolt came out, they kinda had to

[red breach]

I still get over 4 mi/kwh ripping 60-80 on the highway, I'm good

[full fossil]

Oh yeah I thought we were talking current EVs

Like whatever the fuck mazda was doing with the MX30

[red breach]

a lot of today's stuff was definitely developed during the $40k battery era

[graceful mortar]

No 19,999 is after 7,500 tax credit MSRP 27,499. For base Bolt EV.

[dull granite]

remove this

[red breach]

like, they wanted to make a "$35,000" EV - with a battery pack that cost them $40,000 to make. Sure they were going to cut corners and literally make a garbage shit little hatchback they needed it lol

[full fossil]

After tax credits the Bolt EV will be the cheapest car for sale in the USA, as the Versa and Mirage are dying this year

[red breach]

sad that the bolt is also dying lmfao

[full fossil]

[red breach]

23 is final model year

[full fossil]

Goddammit nevermind

So the cheapest car is a $22k corolla? What the hell man

[red breach]

in april - https://www.forbes.com/sites/edgarsten/2023/04/25/chevrolet-bolt-ev-gone-by-end-of-23/?sh=48999c011597

but then in july - https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a44639082/chevrolet-bolt-ev-second-generation-details/

[full fossil]

Manufacturers hate us

[red breach]

"it's going away for good, buy em up people!"

[pale osprey]

One of those bolts also caught fire in my apartment garage 2 years ago. Destroyed 3 apartments and 2 of my cars

[graceful mortar]

Interesting. Around here because of our high temperatures and the air conditioning always being as low as it can go. Combined with high speeds typically it's right around 2.8 to 3.3. On an EV.

No idea EUV

[crude jasper]

That was like 3 hours ago

[red breach]

"oh wait nvm it's coming back"

[red breach]

my real world efficiency is virtually identical between my 21 EV and my 23 EUV

I know it "shouldn't be" but, here we are

[graceful mortar]

Actually the bolt battery is not that expensive it's expensive now because they're baking in cost from the recall.

[full fossil]

I can’t wait for solid state man.

[red breach]

the whole project is fucked they just want units they don't care about profit now

EVs are allowed to lose money, wall street said so

[full fossil]

Liquid batteries can go to hell

[harsh quartz]

Gonna be waiting for a while

[red breach]

in fact, part of wall street would like them to lose as much money as possible building EVs because that's an "indicator of success"

[narrow olive]

Graphene batteries are the way

[full fossil]

2-3 years
Toyota’s already mass producing and Honda is projecting 2024 mass production

[red breach]

Honda + GM's partnership is pretty baller

[full fossil]

Now if Tesla said it would be 2 years I’d say 10 years

[red breach]

GM will make trucks for both of them, honda smaller cars and crossovers. win-win IMO

[pale osprey]

doubt that

[low socket]

its because most manufacturers are figuring out how to mass produce EVs. Tesla makes a good profit per vehicle because they've nailed manufacturing

[full fossil]

2025 hybrid vehicles 2026-27 full EVs is toyota’s projection

[red breach]

because they can charge $60k for a midmarket crossover

[graceful mortar]

Which the versa was fine 9995 not at the current 17 to 18,000 they're commanding used with 50,000 miles......

The mirage was always just a bad value we did a min-max review to determine if we could afford a second car and the problem with mirage was you don't need to spend it that much more to get substantially more car.

Like we already knew we live in a city where people drive really really fast and are idiots on the road we're not doing drum breaks in the rear The stability control will not perform the abrasive double lane change at 70 to 80 mph with drums in the rear.

And we ended up looking at I believe a SE so it was like 18 grand or we could buy an Elantra for 20.

We ended up divulging all the way down into percentage of MSRP and whether or not certain options were worth it.

In the end I decided that out of everything available for sale in the United States the minimum car that we would find even remotely acceptable would be a Hyundai Elantra limited.

[full fossil]

Model year*

[red breach]

Like, the model Y is... no lexus RX

it's also no Cadillac Lyriq. Or Mercedes GLE

[pale osprey]

its one of the most expensive for me. you dont get tax credits on it here

[red breach]

it's pretty much, maybe, an electric Rav4 at best

[full fossil]

I bought a miata because christ it costs the same as these shitboxes and gets better milage

[graceful mortar]

Climate environment battery variations there's so many things that can cause that. Hell even controller updates

[red breach]

it's quicker but it handles like a pig, it's not "luxury" inside, it's loud and ride quality isn't good either

[pale osprey]

i wouldnt own one anyway because they are banned from alot of parking garages here

[red breach]

like the RX is SUBSTANTIALLY quieter down the road than model Y, what the fuck that's an ICE

[full fossil]

Look I like EVs
But I can’t stand Teslas. They’re built like absolute shit

[graceful mortar]

Were* when manufacturer for boasting that they would be selling 250,000 units of a model... Hasn't happened (big 3)

[red breach]

and have TERRIBLE nvh. they're so fucking LOUD

[gilded forge]

they also LOOK like shit

[crude jasper]

You mean basically every currently produced EV?

[gilded forge]

but what about Rivian?

[red breach]

I don't think any big 3 has claimed any of their current models would sell a quarter million a year by now

[graceful mortar]

It's far from the first time Honda supplied V6 engines for Saturns. And transmissions

[crude jasper]

Hahahahahha

[full fossil]

And their usability is atrocious

[harsh quartz]

Mass producing the battery and putting them to market is very different

[wary vine]

Bread?

[red breach]

I'm pretty sure once ultium's production lines are finished uhhh

[pale osprey]

ill buy an ev when alll they want to sell me is a car with a battery and motor and not all the extra bs

[dull granite]

uhm

[red breach]

what makes you think GM will fail to move that much metal? or ford?

[full fossil]

I know
But it’s honda/toyota. The pioneers of mass produced hybrid tech so it’s more believable than if say tesla was announcing it

[graceful mortar]

. Pretty easy to make profit when your idea of quality control is just making the customer look over it... And you know roof panels not actually being aligned to body lines 🙈

[harsh quartz]

Even the gas cars are moving to all the extra bs, I’ve heard this argument a lot, but it’s not just EVs causing this, the EVs are just adapting the gimmicks first because they’re “cutting edge”

[low socket]

That feels like a very US-centric problem. I'm on my second model y from china and both were perfectly built but all the complaints I see are from US customers

[pale osprey]

you are talking to someone whos newest car is 15 years old

[full fossil]

I’ll buy an EV when the charging stations are like gas stations.
Pull up, plug in, pay, charge.
All this app nonsense is gross

[harsh quartz]

Yeah but hybrid vs full EV, especially with brand new technology, it’s gonna take a lot longer to put them to market

[red breach]

it really does work like that once you've got the stupid propriatary card the chargers use

or put it in your phone like a wallet card. works really well

[graceful mortar]

Because Tesla's already so fat if you add another 800 lb of sound deadening like they actually need

all of a sudden you have to upsize all of the suspension components and possibly even the chassis mounting locations need to be strengthened.

[full fossil]

Solid state isn’t brand new though

[red breach]

the apps are a nightmare themselves though

[full fossil]

Man FUCK the apps

[pale osprey]

and somone who sold a 3 year old car to buy said 15 year old car

[full fossil]

I’m going feral everytime I see one

[harsh quartz]

I have a 2017 and I love a lot of the gimmicks, the cameras sensors Bluetooth, all that is useful, but I don’t like the GIANT tvs that a lot of cars are moving to as an entertainment/car management system

[graceful mortar]

F-150 was projected to sell 50,000 units. Then fort had over 400,000 reserves because they claimed 300ish miles range $40,000 4x4 that can tow 10,000 lb.

Which made it $10,000 cheaper than the gasoline equivalent truck.

Americans were here for it They were ready for it They were going to deal with the small amount of compromises

Then it finally gets to the market and it's actually start price of $75,000...
🤡🤡🤡🤡

[harsh quartz]

It’s not brand new but mass producing it is a brand new challenge, as well as putting that technology to use in this specific use case

[long briar]

except diesel trucks use a similar trick, they can carry a larger payload while being under max weight capacity at the truck scales by making sure they have one tank empty. Once they get past the scale they fill up for more range

[full fossil]

Remember when the maverick was marketed as $20k? Good times

[harsh quartz]

??

[long briar]

nvm I misunderstood I thought y'all were talking abt thr weight of gas and engine vs a battery and motors

[full fossil]

Nah right now gas is better for weight

[red breach]

I mean, they're not really much more expensive than the equivalent f150s

[harsh quartz]

No, just talking about gimmicks in modern cars and the positives/negatives of EV technology coming to market

[red breach]

if you buy a platinum gas truck, going to cost you $80k+++ -- same deal with the EV

[full fossil]

Truck prices are fucking insane

[graceful mortar]

I probably worded that poorly. The big three had this disillusion that when they came to the EV market Tesla's game would be completely over and they would absolutely dominate.

This was because they ignored how important DC fast charges for mass adoption

because the vast majority of people do not have homes in the United States that are capable of charging overnight so they must go to a DC fast charger for all filling needs.

They put the cart in front of the damn horse.

The big three also thought that once I started making EVs that the government would come in and build an entire EV charging network..... Which was never going to happen.

You'd have better luck convincing Shell to do so like they have in Germany.

[full fossil]

It was NOT that long ago that a $30k truck was a NICE truck

[harsh quartz]

We got a 2011 Nissan frontier for like 11-12k, I miss those days

[full fossil]

Damn I feel like a boomer

“Back in my day!!!”

[graceful mortar]

Honda did it better. Toyota may have generated the better numbers but Honda did it better. From the very start.

[harsh quartz]

You are a boomer

[full fossil]

Idc who does it better, it needs to happen first so people can compete

[pale osprey]

that was 2014. my grandpa picked up a brand new loaded silverado for 42k canadian out the door

[graceful mortar]

I mean that's a genuine possibility. US labor, were told at least, is more expensive. So you want to use as little of it as possible in order to create an MVP.

[long briar]

positives: Mhev is great for city fuel economy (shocking), push towards electronic controls (to an extent), better user interfaces .

negatives: electronic climate control? Shift... dials? harder to maintain and fix over time

[low socket]

A lot of them half arsed the EVs too. Like not takind advantage of the empty room up front for a frunk - mercedes has one car that doesn't let you pop the bonnet (except a small service pull cord) and instead has the washer fluid funnel pop out the side. What's under the bonnet? Tons of air

[full fossil]

My buddy has a ‘16 diesel dodge ram, fully loaded out, shit was like $45k usd new

[graceful mortar]

Well because the data that the app can get from you has a value to it and then they can resell to advertisers so it's subsidizes and adds additional profit that's why everybody uses apps.

It also has the carry-on effect that if you don't want to have multiple apps you're more likely to stay within a charging network locking you into the profit circle from there 'eco system'

[full fossil]

With a BULLETPROOF inline 6

[harsh quartz]

I’ve also heard a lot of people in older generations (40-80YOs) saying that they don’t trust hybrids or EVs just because they don’t understand how they work and they will never buy one, and that’s a whole mother issue

[red breach]

I wish I could post images here but like -- $57,480 vs $69,995 (-$7500 = $62,495)

[pale osprey]

you know china is banning teslas due to the possibility of espionage

[red breach]

literal $5,000 difference between the lightning and the F150 at the end of the day. You're lying

[full fossil]

That’s a fear problem
Hell there’s people in this server who won’t drive hybrids/EV because “it’s for women”

[harsh quartz]

Give it 5 years and china will be producing an “Edison” that’s just a rip off of teslas

[low socket]

One of the only good things our government has done is make it a legal requirement for charge networks to adopt contactless payment terminals at chargers here in the UK, I can't wait for them all to change (it has a grace period to allow retrofitting)

[pale osprey]

it already exists its called byd

[low socket]

Yeah while trying to sell cameras of their own to anyone and everyone 😂

[full fossil]

Thank fucking god
It sucks SO much here in the states

[graceful mortar]

I mean in all fairness at least it did actually come to the market at 19,999...

Assuming you wanted a vehicle that had no cruise control.... In 2021

[red breach]

"under 60k for the c8"

[narrow olive]

Now if they could actually make the EV's cheap enough to buy in the UK....

[harsh quartz]

I don’t see why this is important

[red breach]

I remember thinking I could actually someday maybe afford a c8

[full fossil]

Yeah and now they’re $24k base and are selling on average at $32k

[full fossil]

RIP L bozo

[graceful mortar]

The problem is is the median income is in the 50s. And in order for Americans to dive in feet first and try it out and see how it is. It has to be cheaper.

The only way that lightning would have succeeded here is if at 40 or maybe maximum $45,000. You can get the extended rage battery pack max tow even with a truck that was just the pro model.

That was the only way in Ford knew that.

[dull granite]

hiiii :3 :3 ;3 hiii :3 :3

[pale osprey]

if china is banning modern american cars dude to risks of espionage you will NEVER catch me owning a chinese ev

[long briar]

some Toyota cars have launch gear for their cvts. I can't think of any reason that's bad

[low socket]

Because apps or nfc cards per network are stupid and a hassle. I carry my card with me, I can use apple pay anywhere even without an internet connection

[full fossil]

Speaking the language of the gods

[red breach]

they fully intend to manufacture more base models. why was the "launch high, expand low" idea OK for tesla but not ford or GM?

GM actually DID launch low, and nobody wanted it

[narrow olive]

Apps aren't always compatible, you might not have a stable enough internet connection or you might just not want to put your card details into an app

[graceful mortar]

A crazy statistic is the 2010 Ford F-150 raptor with 39,995.... They are now what? 80k-109k.

[full fossil]

There’s nothing bad about it at all
Helps keep initial strain off the CVT too

[long briar]

exactly

[harsh quartz]

Oh so it was like there was NO way to pay without an app before? I just assumed you meant that they had like a chip reader and you were glad it was moving to nfc

[thin vigil]

most of the cameras are on the outside of the vehicle, they're gonna be spying on you either way 😅
unless you plan to run from them on sight

[full fossil]

Yes
It’s dumb as shit

[low socket]

Ah no, many networks rolled out requiring an app at all to pay its SO stupid

[harsh quartz]

Yeah that’s fuckin dumb

[full fossil]

That reason alone is the ONE reason I won’t buy an EV yet

[pale osprey]

because the conversations i have in my car are less important than being casually seen in the street

[harsh quartz]

Skillgap

[red breach]

it went all the stations were free > all the stations required a special NFC tag > all the stations required an app > most stations have open NFC

[scenic ginkgo]

🍞

[low socket]

The best part was one network (I can't remember who) installed chargers that required using an app in an underground car park.

Where you can't get a phone signal.

Guess how the chargers connected to their server to validate payment? That's right. mobile data

So even if you go outside so you can use the app it will never start a charge anyway since it can't tell the charger to initiate

[graceful mortar]

Exactly. Honda tried the fun sporty hybrid with the CR-Z.... Which really needed a K20 to even be a viable product.

The second generation insight was supposed to look like a normal car but it didn't really sell enough numbers even that was cheaper than the Prius.

First generation inside was I still think one of the biggest flexes of Honda engineering of all time.

There's still plenty of them kicking around they do over 60 miles to the gallon in the real world. Maybe they have a new battery but guess what that battery was under $2,000

[red breach]

the CRZ needed a beefy lithium PHEV battery with a real capacity to mean anything

it had like... 50lb ft of eTorque? why??

[full fossil]

I don’t understand what took them so long to just do a corolla/civic hybrid tbh
Having a separate model was silly

[harsh quartz]

Bruh Sam’s does this with their gas stations, either you have a premium account where they give you a physical membership card or you have to use the app, which is annoying because our Sam’s is in the middle of a cell tower dead zone due to the cell tower getting struck by lightning and fried last year

[full fossil]

There was the 8th gen civic hybrid but those are rare

[graceful mortar]

Well yeah that's what happens when you convert a gasoline car to an EV because you're pretty sure it's just going to be a fad and you don't want to spend millions and millions of dollars but you weren't planning on by having to develop a completely new model.

I mean hell look how much Porsche been on TYCAN which is effectively a panamera.

[pale osprey]

i also have no idea wtf lucid is doing. they opened the biggest dealer i have ever seen near me and for the past year they have had 1 single car on the lot and its always the same one

[full fossil]

A lot of their cars are ordered and/or sold before even being built
It’s a quasi luxury brand

[graceful mortar]

XLT lightning -big battery -tow package spray-on bedliner.

[red breach]

i've seen lucid's on the road, but I also live in the richest part of the country where people still disproportionately drive sedans

[long briar]

well you can use those cell signal bouncer things Linus showcased a while back

[thin vigil]

aside from the fact a foreign government isn't gonna care about a rando civilian, what makes you think the US gov isn't spying on you via your American built EV?

[pale osprey]

yeah but there is zero cars going there ever. no deliverys no service no nothing and the dealer takes up like 8 acres of land

[civic cradle]

I think I'd be going for a Maverick over an f150

[red breach]

ok? I'm pretty sure you can add a bunch of options including a big expensive engine into the F150 ICE. Base prices here, comparable trims.

[pale osprey]

because i dont own one

[full fossil]

Not for what they’re selling for I wouldn’t.

[graceful mortar]

No I'm not there was a huge breakdown of what it would compete with when the lightning was announced.

The fact that F-150 prices have gone cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs does not justify that they raised the lightning's price. Before it even hit the streets.

[red breach]

they may have raised the lightning's prices -- but you're like just mad they don't have low end lightnings yet

[full fossil]

That’s so weird

[red breach]

they said those were coming later

[full fossil]

Guyz but what about the cybertruck?! 🤯🤯

[civic cradle]

Hey, does anyone know if there will be an LTT video today or not?

[harsh quartz]

Money laundering 🙂

[graceful mortar]

I was talking about the hybrid side especially in the early days in the early 2000s.

I found Toyota CVTs livable except they are poorly programmed particularly in Corolla when your climate from mountain road and you have to lift for a corner and then get back on the throttle about the second time it will not command lowest available gear to select one gear higher and then the car just doesn't accelerate because it needs all of the power to climb that mountain.

[civic cradle]

More vaporware

[red breach]

the base lightning probably WILL hit the prices they were talking about, or close to it + inflation

[civic cradle]

Current nissan rogue cvt is good

[red breach]

also remember keep in mind anything announced in (or economically planned around) like, 2019 now has a ~20-30% inflation tax associated to those prices. Really hard to bare that

[full fossil]

You want a well built cvt with dogshit programming go try out Subarus

[pale osprey]

china cares. did you miss them memo on how they send random user data from tiktok to a us based server and then they send it to china

[harsh quartz]

The Nissan rogue is the #1 vehicle I hear about with failing transmissions before 100k miles

[full fossil]

Sentra

[civic cradle]

Okay, engaging to drive with

[long briar]

anyways screw cvts

[harsh quartz]

Still a Nissan

[long briar]

Gear transmissions will forever be superior

[civic cradle]

For real tho

[pale osprey]

they may not care about you as an individual but as the general populace they do

[graceful mortar]

What? I'm confused as to what you're talking about here.

Ford marketing lead with 39995 pricing on lightning.

They also boasted about the extended battery packs range and the towing capabilities

What they failed to make clear to the general public during their media campaign was that 39995 was exclusive to pro.... Which is resulted in a number of fleets trying to sue Ford now that they're $49.995.

Also That the general consumer was not authorized to purchase a pro with the extended battery pack.

[long briar]

also 6 speed is all we really need

[full fossil]

Fuck automatics

Fuck poorly programmed CVTs

[long briar]

Automatics is fine

it just needs to be tuned right

[harsh quartz]

Aight imma fight

[full fossil]

Manual or EV 🦅🦅

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/toadkingstudios-angry-toaster-noises-dj-twisted-toaster-toast-hopping-mad-gif-19484461

[full fossil]

Planetary CVTs are really good tbf

[long briar]

if it's in a "normal" car, it needs to feel relaxed and smooth. Sports cars needs it to be snappy and short enough to kick

[long briar]

I haven't driven one yet but it's funny thinking of a car driven by balls

[pale osprey]

because the american gov has to go through court to get acess to any data. the chinese gov can just ask for it and the chinese company must oblige

[full fossil]

It drives the same as a normal CVT you just aren’t worrying about belts

[long briar]

then gimme launch gear at least

[full fossil]

Toyota

[graceful mortar]

4x4 f 150.

[long briar]

I want that kick from 0 that cvts normally don't have

anything above that I'm not too worried about

[full fossil]

I’m frothing from the mouth for these Toyota Stout rumors

[pale osprey]

@harsh quartz before you clown react you should lookup how a dude almost got away with murder cause chevy wouldnt hand over any data

[red breach]

I'm done having this bad faith conversation

[graceful mortar]

There is your lowest trims that have the ability to show 10,000 lb which is the whole reason you're buying a pickup truck. With 300 miles of Ranger more

[red breach]

you're just bullshitting

[harsh quartz]

This was my problem when I had to drive a Sentra, I would put my foot down to get down the on ramp and it just wouldn’t fucking go anywhere

[red breach]

goalposts are soaring by us now

not even moving, they're warp speed

[elfin solar]

Ah yes. The American government has never been caught accessing people’s private details

[full fossil]

It’s a sentra
The worst of the worst CVTs

[long briar]

ironic Nissan has the Nissan kicks (also has none) but Sentra is because the engine has no power

[harsh quartz]

Yeah, that’s the day I learned to hate CVTs 🙂

[stray apex]

most people actually buy a pickup for no practical reasons lol
that being said, the cheapest f150 lightning I can actually order rn is around 60k so

[pale osprey]

with their own shit yes they have but not through strong arming other companies s

[long briar]

Nissan cvts suck AND I hate Nissan drivers

[full fossil]

Ironically the Auto nissan uses for their truck platforms is really good

[graceful mortar]

No no Ford's made it clear prices will never go back down on lightning.

Pro extended battery pack will never be available to the general consumer.

That last one doesn't really matter because they had to jack the price up of the pro for fleets so you're at XLT pricing anyways.

What upsets me is Ford had the ability to jumpstart the Eevee resolution and put America back on track with the rest of the world with F-150 lightning at $40,000 if they would have stuck to what they originally claimed.

I literally know a ton about from 50 drivers and over half of them put down reservation deposits for $40,000 lightning pros only to find out when the configurator came out that consumers could not order the extended battery and the pro came with under 300 miles of range

[harsh quartz]

But my Toyota, when I put my foot down, it gives me power, I put it down more, it gives me more power, it’s a fine automatic transmission

[full fossil]

That’s just how CVTs work
The goal is efficiency above all else

[red breach]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/17/23797364/ford-f-150-lightning-electric-truck-price-drop

[graceful mortar]

I mean I saw eight which absolutely maxes out the weight capacity.... On 2 big rigs heading into California from Arizona. So I guess they're 'being made'

[harsh quartz]

I know and it’s dangerous

[red breach]

they cut pricing in july 2023

[elfin solar]

The old bait and switch. Always a classic.

[red breach]

are you done just fabricating reality about a subject I really don't even care to defend anymore? believe ford is fucking everyone, I don't carrree dude

[full fossil]

How hard is it to cut steel, apparently super difficult

[red breach]

literally last month they cut pricing by up to 10k

[full fossil]

How is it dangerous?

[harsh quartz]

Do you know how many scissors it took me to cut one sheet of that stuff?

[pale osprey]

you hear time and time again about how x company is refusing to give up data the gov needs to convict someone

[red breach]

just stop man. stop.

[stray apex]

a base model lightning still costs like... 20k more than an ICE?

[harsh quartz]

If I pull out planning on accelerating and it doesn’t accelerate that’s fairly dangerous

[red breach]

because it's not an equivalent model. the base EV truck has much more content. the "pro" lightning is still a better truck than XL

[pale osprey]

thats what the rental passat my gf had was doing

[red breach]

actually making my head spin at this point trying to explain the basics of buying things like

[stray apex]

that doesn't matter, though?

[red breach]

how are you confused that the more expensive model costs more

[red breach]

what are you saying?

[full fossil]

It’s slow sure but even in my subaru with a 12 second 0-60 it was not once an issue

[graceful mortar]

/ing prices to move inventory is not really the same.

[stray apex]

the point is that it's shitty that nobody makes affordable ev's in the US

[graceful mortar]

Here you go though

[pale osprey]

must be a crosstrek

[harsh quartz]

If your used to it then sure it won’t be, but I wasn’t ready for it to not have power, I expected it to accelerate and it didn’t

[red breach]

"ford will NEVER go back down on prices" he said

NEVER go back down

[graceful mortar]

So price went up $10,000 over launch price. For pro

[full fossil]

Impreza
Same thing

[red breach]

literally 1 months ago they slash em by 10k

[stray apex]

wow, now it's only 10k above the announced price

[red breach]

'NOT REALLY THE SAME' jesus DUDE you're so bad at this just STOP

yes, things cost more in 2023 than they thought they would in 2019, shock and fuckin AWE

[full fossil]

Dawg you’re getting way too heated about this

It’s a car

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074266

[red breach]

it's just infurating to watch someone so completely incapable of comprehending reality

[pale osprey]

i would have had issues with that 0-60 time. all my cars can pickup a 40kph speed difference in a few car lengths with minimal throttle for lane changes

[stray apex]

I dunno, a 2019 f150 is only like 5k less than the 2023

[red breach]

and be so persistant that there's some kind of conspiracy at ford

[stray apex]

wut
the conspiracy is that they want money lmao

[long briar]

meanwhile my 6.2 second 0-60 RAV4 from 2012 has saved my ass from collisions because I can floor it and trust it'll move

[full fossil]

It wasn’t bad tbh
Personally, I hated the fake shifting more than anything
And lord the seats did not have enough support

[red breach]

rather than just acknowledge they thought there would be an economy of scale around batteries that haven't materialized yet

[stray apex]

guy really out here trying to argue that car manufacturers are making cars out of the good of their hearts or something

[full fossil]

“Good drivers don’t get in these situations” /s

[pale osprey]

i causally leave a light in my 05 s60 and im at the next intersection while others are still gaining speed

[red breach]

guy really out here arguing it's in ford's best interest to gouge when in reality they're probably barely breaking even on f150 lightning because it's a CAFE move

[stray apex]

it's really expensive for ford to make these cars guys, that's why you can't get the bigger battery on the pro model

[full fossil]

No one wants to take you seriously acting like this bruh

[red breach]

their costs are higher - what don't you understand?

they're covering their costs in the EXACT way tesla did, ok for them, outrageous for ford?

[stray apex]

tesla is a shit company that hasn't made EV's affordable, why do you pretend like tesla is good?

[long briar]

How's fuel economy tho

[red breach]

the OG model S should NOT have cost 90-100k. they were crap, barely electric chrysler 300 level cars

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-sad-bread-stress-eating-gif-14630049

[pale osprey]

7/100km

[long briar]

Jesus what

[stray apex]

anyways

[full fossil]

Tesla is the worst EV company fight me

[stray apex]

ford dum

[harsh quartz]

Tesla has at least delivered vehicles, some haven’t

[full fossil]

Nikola moment

[long briar]

meanwhile if I drive my RAV4 a little more aggressive it's 13.1/100

[red breach]

how do we get image perms?

[long briar]

no

[red breach]

like, I had them when I was FP

[stray apex]

yeah, but how many companies have enhanced cruise control that likes to engage in the occasional bout of manslaughter

[harsh quartz]

?

[red breach]

but like

[pale osprey]

doesn't use much fuel when its take 2 sec of throttle to get to speed and just coasts the rest of the way

[full fossil]

4.8/100 for my miat

[long briar]

it's a v6 5 speed small SUV... going 0-60 in 6 seconds

[red breach]

@long briar

[graceful mortar]

This is Ford's own website. And how you order the truck. So I'm not seeing the price reflected here.

[red breach]

I have a screenie here

[stray apex]

no, that is the slashed pricing lmao

[harsh quartz]

Yeah I know what it is I have a rav4, but what does that number mean? Is that how y’all measure fuel mileage?

[long briar]

13.1l/100km

[pale osprey]

5.2l/100km for my turbo cobalt

[harsh quartz]

Ngl that’s a bonkers way to measure it

[red breach]

https://imgur.com/a/qHVANJt

[full fossil]

Hell yeah I love small cars 🦅🦅🦅🦅

[long briar]

Canadian things

[full fossil]

5G!

[full fossil]

It’s actually better than mpg tbh, more accurate

[red breach]

wow erotic image warning for ford website screenshots, amazing

[tired glade]

13L per 100km is like a truck, right?

[harsh quartz]

When I’m on interstate I get 29ish mpg, when I’m in city I get 25ish mpg

[pale osprey]

that number makes people really angry because it goes along side "26 psi" and "400hp"

[graceful mortar]

Bro.... Now you're just straight up projecting.

No I'm mad that they lied.

They said they could deliver it made a bunch of hype about it everybody was super excited in the United States to try something different.

Used car values are at all time high so most people it would cost them less than $5,000 to trade in their 2016 to get into a brand new lightning at 39995

And then the best that I can tell I don't think any of them were ever sold at the original announced pricing. At least not any XLTs or Pros.

[long briar]

then I rented a wagoneer for a trip down to North Carolina and I'm getting 14l/100km on the HIGHWAY

[full fossil]

20/100 in the usa

[tired glade]

Oh, my

[harsh quartz]

Wagoneer is one of the ugliest vehicles I have ever seen

[full fossil]

The RAM TRX gets like 28/100 iirc

[red breach]

what are you TALKING about

They said they could deliver it made a bunch of hype about it everybody was super excited in the United States to try something different.

[red breach]

no, nobody cared - everyone had masks and nobody was buying a car, everyone was ridiculing ford for doing this even. I was THERE, at the NYIAS it launched, it was NOT a fun time

[full fossil]

I like chicken I like liver meow mix meow mix please deliver

[pale osprey]

makes me laugh cause it tells me they have never owned a turbo car otherwise they would know when cruising it might as well be an n/a motor

[long briar]

I think it's fine tbh, it's based on the ram 1500 body on frame and it's huge... bigger than a sienna, weighs 6 tons and is slow af

[red breach]

ford faced the business reality of inflation and the bad-bet of "battery prices continuing to fall" has hurt everyone making EVs these days

[full fossil]

For now

[long briar]

Anyways vw Atlas vr6 💟

[full fossil]

Give me a VR-16 and then we’ll talk

[pale osprey]

touareg r50

[stray apex]

And how do you reconcile the fact that Ford recently reduced the price of the entire line by about 10k with the argument that they needed to raise prices by 20k, actually

[graceful mortar]

I mean if you're not going to make money anyway you might as well stick to the promise that you made to the consumer when you launched.

Chevy's running into the same exact backlash with Silverado EV. They as well claimed 39995 and so far reviewers have gotten their hands on WT2 that are a ridiculous 80,000??? What?

WT1 are $73k

[graceful mortar]

You can't. Fleets can

[full fossil]

The silverado EVs issue is it looks dumb as shit

truck drivers are not gonna go for that thing

[pale osprey]

its a worse avalanche

[full fossil]

Truth

[stray apex]

No u don't understand Ford is makjng these cars because they love the environment so they can only sell you the good battery if you pay them more
Out of love

[long briar]

A) it'd be too long B) splitting it into two banks is just a Bugatti engine W16 (also owned by Volkswagen group)

[full fossil]

(I was talking about the “W” 16)

Iirc is just two VR8s together

[full fossil]

Wait lemme check

[long briar]

ye

[graceful mortar]

This is just what's available in Fords public website.

You would think if they actually want consumers to know about the price cut...

so that way when they negotiate with dealers they can make sure they're not getting charged $40,000 over sticker instead only $30,000......

That Ford would want to advertise that on their order website.

[red breach]

$/KWH it's pretty simple math

[pale osprey]

Why am i not able to send pictures here

[stray apex]

No, uh
50k is the reduced MSRP
It was 60k prior

[graceful mortar]

Announce 6 weeks ago and ford still have an updated their website. Sigh.

[long briar]

vr6 is just a i6 with the cylinders at different angles

[full fossil]

Real

Lean V6

[stray apex]

No, it's been updated

[pale osprey]

Ford following gm with what they did to the chevy SS

[long briar]

double it like a v6 and it becomes a w12

[graceful mortar]

So 65 grand for the most basic usable F-150 lightning.

65K is going to put you at needing to make at least $150,000 a year to afford it comfortably.

[long briar]

Or how about... save?

[full fossil]

What are y’all even talking about anymore

[pale osprey]

You also cant use it for anything. Look at hoovies experience with his shared lighting

[graceful mortar]

400,000 reserves replaced with Ford for lightning.... That's freaking nearly half of all yearly F-150 production.

[long briar]

You should always put 25-50% of your income into a savings

[misty plover]

Interviewing for a Tech store (like mostly computer hardware) sales job tomorrow

Its one of the bigger and busier stores

What do you think theyl ask

[full fossil]

Honestly if you buy first gen technology you’re either rich or an idiot

[pale osprey]

If I remember correctly he used most if not all the range towing something 80 miles

[long briar]

ok but here's the thing, a long wheelbase Heavy truck is very stable on the road

[red breach]

"reserves" - you mean people who put their fucking email address on a list?

dude I'm SO done with your straw man moving goal posts, don't @ me

[graceful mortar]

Right no I'm just making it clear that fleets can order F-150 pros with the extended pack it is a fleet only option that requires a dedicated fleet ID number to prevent them getting in the to the hands of consumers.

I tried. And even the fleet manager was like I've never seen Ford Force it like this.

Hell we used to be able to order police interceptors straight through the fleet manager you just couldn't get them factory upfitted with the gear.

[long briar]

we all know (or not) how the "reserved" numbers worked out for the hd8xx

[full fossil]

We know how it’s working out for tesla

[misty plover]

I play league of legends

[pale osprey]

Then buy a low to the ground car

[full fossil]

No soul? :megamind:

[long briar]

Like?

[graceful mortar]

Oh okay so it is actually 75,000. So you will in fact need to make over 150,000 a year in order to comfortably afford the vehicle. Awesome.

[full fossil]

Comfortably?? 50% of your income?? Hard pass

I don’t like living paycheck to paycheck 🦅🦅🦅

[pale osprey]

Literally Anything built with road stability in mind. Lotus evora for example

[graceful mortar]

Okay point made.

But it's either this or we continue to run around and 3.5 l EcoBoost that get 14 miles to the gallon in the real world because people utilize all of the torque and all of the power all of the time.

I don't blame them being able to do 0 to 60 in 5.4 seconds in a 5,800 lb truck 💪💪

Especially when all the competitors weigh at least 300 if not 700 lb more.

[sullen crown]

what if first vid back is wan show?

[long briar]

Then drive beside a large semi... lol

also a few evoras use the same engine as my RAV4 😄

[full fossil]

Hybrid tundra better

[graceful mortar]

Depends on what they pay. If it's not more than double minimum wage they shouldn't be asking for a much of technical know-how.

Having customer service skills is already a marketable skill.

[graceful mortar]

Being able to count money back and work a cash register is also a marketable skill... Nowadays at least.

[graceful mortar]

Yes people that intended to buy the F-150 lightning.

[keen cedar]

Why bread

[long briar]

cause bread

[sullen crown]

bread put us here, it can take us away

[pale osprey]

even a 4xe jeep

[graceful mortar]

At $50,000 the maximum car that you should be purchasing is $22,000.

I'm just extrapolating from there

Granted EVs tend to carry a substantial insurance price premium as of late so it's probably more closer to like $200,000.

And that assumes 20% down and a 5-year loan

[misty plover]

I have decent hardware knowledge and ive worked years of customer service
So hopefully i got it

Cash register stuff wont be part of my tasks apparently

Im picking this up as a side job

[sullen crown]

PSA: Check pins for 🍞 roll

[long briar]

orrr save 10k a year and buy a car you actually want rather than settling on a car you bought only because you can't afford the one you want

[full fossil]

five year loan??? FUCK that

[pale osprey]

all that debt for a car that will empty your pockets faster than a 3000$ shit box. a 3000$ shit box is also better for the envrionment because you still got your car and a new one didnt have to be built for you

[graceful mortar]

Hybrid tundra too heavy.... 3.5 EcoBoosts with 400 horsepower 500 lb torque smoke 6.2s owned by 'you know my truck's got the Corvette motor' owners.

[full fossil]

Idgaf about 0-60 I care about towing power

[long briar]

3k can get you a used Acura that's actually nice to drive

[pale osprey]

3k is what i paid for my 05 volvo s60 2.5t

[manic edge]

evs won't save us.

[graceful mortar]

You should be fine dude don't sweat it. If you've watched Linus tech tips you have more than enough skill to work at a computer store.

If you want to brush up just watch some tech quickie

[long briar]

what tech store?

[pale osprey]

300k km no rust or errors

that car already out lived and out drove its envronmental impact

[full fossil]

We all know but it’s better than doing nothing

[manic edge]

nope. it's not.

you just emit the same amount in a shorter time span

[pale osprey]

pit mines and child labour... my favourite

[graceful mortar]

Yes there's a point there. But typically people that are looking to buy new vehicles is because their current vehicles becoming expensive on repairs.

Especially with the recent labor price increases at least in my metropolitan area.

You're paying $200 an hour for a mechanic and they go off of book not how fast they can actually do the job.

The book says 10 You're getting charged $2,000. Even if it only took the mechanic 2 hours.

Dealers are at $220/hr for gasoline $295/hr I believe for diesel.

And cost of parts has gone up substantially since COVID. Most of what I've seen has doubled if not more.

So you're in that situation where do you continue to put money into your car where you're not actually gaining any resale value. Spending 3 to $600 every month average for the last year repairing it.

Or do you go out and get a new car.

[misty plover]

Thank you stranger
I appreciate it

[manic edge]

what is better than doing nothing is fighting for public transit. that will have a good impact

[graceful mortar]

84 months are the lead offer currently. Yes 84 so 7 year loan to keep monthly payments 'affordable'

"You can always refinance later if you get like a better job"

[long briar]

I paid 32k CAD for my RAV4 11 years ago. Driver side wheel bearing just started making noise and is a 200cad part to replace... I've never had major part wear out before.

[long briar]

Nope not happening

[pale osprey]

thats bad too sadly . get ready to fuck up the envrionment by reconstructing cities for public transport

[manic edge]

lmao

they already are for public transit

[long briar]

most really aren't

[manic edge]

we just bulldozed them for the car

[pale osprey]

not in car centric cities

[manic edge]

then make it not car centric

[pale osprey]

there is more than 45% of montreal that isnt reached by a bus or metro

[graceful mortar]

The most expensive cars that I have ever purchased have been used cars. By far.

The only reason that you sell a car is because it's giving you issues that you don't want to pay for it to fix.

So that could shove down to the next buyer

We have not found a used car to bring up to 100% functional that didn't cost at least half of its original purchase price in the first 3 months.

So buy it for $6,000 put $3,000 into it now you have a functional car but it cost you 9 grand and the cars worth $5k

[harsh quartz]

Yeah that’s meant to be ugly, the wagoneer isn’t

[graceful mortar]

500 lb of torque and 373 gears give you more power to the ground than an early 2000s heavy duty diesel truck.... And your truck is 2000 to 2500 lb lighter than those.

[pale osprey]

idk what to say. get better at buying cars? poeple sell them for all reasons mine was sold cause the person lost their licence due to age and only needed 340$ to be back in perfect order

[graceful mortar]

Where are you guys finding these Japanese cars that cheap?

[pale osprey]

and that 340$ was an oil change cabin and engine filter plus 2 tie rods

[tulip tusk]

wtf
$1,200 2007 acura?!

[graceful mortar]

Blown engine and trans.

[tulip tusk]

oh nvm

[graceful mortar]

So 5-6k to "fix" assuming that's all

[tulip tusk]

welp

[long briar]

that's out of laziness though. many common parts that fail on a car can be done by oneself in less than half a day. Preventative maintenance saves money in the long run as well

[graceful mortar]

Meanwhile for the things I have to buy.....

The one on the left is a salvage title. Which means you can't put full coverage insurance on it.

[full fossil]

FUCK. THAT.

36 months

[pale osprey]

Way overpriced

[graceful mortar]

Most people don't have tools or torque wrenches or live in apartments where they're not allowed to work on their vehicle at all and they have to take him to a shop.

[frail wasp]

I have full insurance on my salvage van

[narrow olive]

I'm guessing the insurance is higher becuse it's a salvage?

[full fossil]

Most people just don’t have time

[graceful mortar]

And yet it gets substantially worse as you get newer... 10-year-old truck $260,000 mi.... $40,000

[pale osprey]

I live in an apartment where you cant work on cars and that doesnt stop anyone

[frail wasp]

Maybe? It's pretty cheap. like $500 for 2 cars, 1 full 1 liability only

It's a van not an STI

[graceful mortar]

And my thing is always been this is your time worth it.

Because if you're spending all weekend working on your car you could have been out there all day making money So that's always a thing to consider.

[pale osprey]

Im looking at one rn with 161k for 5500

6.6 Duramax

[frail wasp]

I stopped working on my cars when they because rusted AF.

ain't nobody got time for that.

[graceful mortar]

So I know some insurance companies allow you to pay for full coverage and then tell you later when there's a total out accident that you're not eligible for full coverage...

But there's the other thing you may be eligible for for coverage but they're going to base it off of the salvage price so the maximum you're going to get for that vehicle is the salvage price.

The problem is is when you get into these pickup trucks for instance that $18,000 one if that was not a salvage title and they were involved in an accident the insurance will be paying out approximately 25 to $27,000 because they have to use comparables from car dealers not private sellers.

But because he has a salvage title they're going to pay him $3,000..... Which means because homeboy was on his phone and totaled his 3-day-old truck the guy just lost 15 grand.

[full fossil]

guys

[graceful mortar]

Which is a really long way to say once the vehicle is salvaged you should be paying the salvage price for it maximum even if it's 'fixed'. Because you don't have a way to control others and stop them from hitting you on the road which means it becomes a liability to own a salvage vehicle.

[frail wasp]

Sorry, titles are rebuilt not salvage.

[graceful mortar]

They'll charge the same. But after an accident occurs and it's determined that it's a 2nd total or you're trying to get repairs done they're going to value it at salvage price.

Which just leaves you holding a massive loss because somebody else wasn't paying attention on the road.

[pale osprey]

@graceful mortar why are you so into severely overpaying for an automobile. Every price you have mentioned in the last 45 mins has made me go wtf

[austere ruin]

Wap moths

[full fossil]

which one's better ACER Nitro 5 AN515-57 or DELL G15 5525-8328 for casual playing

[graceful mortar]

Until you get the 72 hour eviction notice on your door on the 3rd of the month right after you pay rent.

[pale osprey]

Been doing it every day for 5 years

[graceful mortar]

So I used to think that was cheap for insurance too.... Apparently 60 to $80 a month is what you should be paying for insurance 😬😬

[frail wasp]

72 hours. loll

[pale osprey]

I pay 80$ a month for 4 cars

[austere ruin]

I pay 5000 yen for my 2 cars

[graceful mortar]

What year? What does the seller list is wrong with it? And what does it look like.

[frail wasp]

full coverage 2017. I probably should shop around.

[pale osprey]

2010 and it got a rotten bed. Thats it

[graceful mortar]

That's the market out here. Because the cars don't die. So people automatically assume they're worth substantially more than they actually are.

Also you don't have another alternative. Public transport is not a viable solution if you want to keep a job here so you have to have own a car.

[austere ruin]

I got a RX7 and a 240z

[graceful mortar]

Not everybody's going to have the same experience as you.

[frail wasp]

AZ cars are also usually mint.

[austere ruin]

Bcz it was cheap where I live

I got a white 240z and a 80s rx7

[ashen shadow]

so the week is over, now what

[long briar]

Land is just cheaper where I live... screw renting

[pale osprey]

They will if they treat the building management like a king

That mf was on my ass about working on my cars until i start leaving him gifts

[austere ruin]

I own my own land that my house stands on and my bar too

[pale osprey]

Also nothing i own leaks oil so there isnt any complaints about that either

[austere ruin]

And I only Gatta pay 20000 yen a month to live

[frail wasp]

I got a siphon/pump oil extractor. Best investment I've ever made.

No more messes.

[austere ruin]

I got 2 4090s bcz if one breaks

[pale osprey]

Sealable drain containers are great for that too

[graceful mortar]

2010... So it's an LMM.

Which used posts combustion injection to light off their DPFs. Which were notorious for throwing errors and pumping the crankcase full of diesel fuel.

Which means before you can even consider buying this vehicle you would need at the bare minimum full diesel compression test done. I would be uneasy about buying it without an oil analysis but unless the owner already did that that's like a month out.

You would also need a mechanic to inspect that DPF cuz that's $8,000 to repair.

And bedrotted out means frame rot which also means that the crossmember that's in the back that these chassis are notorious for is rotted out.

It's price of $5,500 because rust-free breads go for $3,000 or more. And to redo that crossmember assuming that the frame has enough meat on it to where they're willing to do it another $2,500 at least.

I could go on and all but basically I would have to see it in person. Because of the front ends also rotted up you're going to have shops charging you $4,000 to $5,000 to replace control arms because they regularly have to spend 6 to 8 hours cutting them out like it's a massive problem.

The torsion keys will completely seize to where it will have to be cut off.

Rusty 2001 to 2010 trucks are nightmares. Because the costs for something simple like a $200 control arm suddenly becomes $1,400 $1,500 aside because of the amount of labor that has to go in with trying to get the damn thing apart.

[graceful mortar]

Well you see a lot of sun damage and a lot of torn up interiors but in general yes.

[long briar]

that's fair. For me I've had the luxury of having cars that almost never broke down, with my previous daily (the RAV4) not needing anything for the past 10 years, and now a wheel bearing that takes 2 hours to replace

[pale osprey]

You know I actually went to look at this truck and none that shit was necessary. Once again you love overspending. Shop this shop that thousands this thousands that.

[graceful mortar]

And the reason why you have to do all this is long blocks start at 15 to $17,000 for Duramax trucks. You can technically go cheaper from like a parts store but the list of requirements that you also have to buy brings a price to 12 grand and it only comes with a 1-year 12,000 mile warranty.

Or for an extra 5 grand you get a completely remanufactured engine not just a rebuilt and you get a 5-year 100,000 mile warranty

[pale osprey]

The bed was rusty cause its a fucking work truck that got all the paint inside the bed scratched off

[full fossil]

Ltt upload????

[terse zenith]

Ive been gone why still no LTT uploads?

[short escarp]

Idk but they should come back now, its been long enough

[terse zenith]

they said 23rd they will be back

[harsh quartz]

rav4 didnt break cause its a toyota

[long briar]

exactly

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-sad-bread-stress-eating-gif-14630049

[harsh quartz]

"and youll see uploads shortly after"

[long briar]

well the 2.4l i4 had oil burning issues, later 2.5l i4 ones were fine. V6 were perfect

[pale osprey]

I was pissed i couldn’t buy it cause i measured it and the thing wouldn’t fit l through my garage door

[narrow olive]

Just because the resumed production on the 23rd doesn't mean they immediately need to post videos. I imagine there'll be one before the weekend

[graceful mortar]

Did you pull the gas tank and look at the crossmember?

And did you get the compression test done cuz they'll hide it. And then all of a sudden it'll snap a crank

[terse zenith]

but they even canceled uploads that were set to release already why nit upload them. unless theres more going on

[graceful mortar]

You said rusted out so like there's holes physically through the bed from Russ which means everything else underneath the chassis had to been affected unless the guy literally carried salt in the bed.

[graceful mortar]

So it was a lifted truck?

[pale osprey]

I said and I quote “rotten bed.thats it”

[graceful mortar]

I'm not trying to argue I'm just making sure that like people who look at these trucks understand the liabilities.

[pale osprey]

And i meant what i said

[rare holly]

Y'all care.too much about truck drama, what happened to this sub 🤓

[graceful mortar]

So they just have like a rust hole in the middle between the spare tire and the exhaust system so it didn't affect any of the frame whatsoever?

there's no flaking rust or anything. the factory rust prevention and wax coating is still there front to rear nobody will have a problem taking off anything?

[narrow olive]

To re-review them after the production halt to ensure their correct?

[graceful mortar]

I understand so then yeah it was a good deal.

You should have bought it and then shipped it out to Arizona and sold it for 20 grand like everyone else.

Would be more worth like 30 but obviously somebody's going to source a bed so.

[full fossil]

Morning everyone

[dense coral]

It takes them time to make a video. Especially so if they are (hopefully) improving their video production process.

Be patient. It's not that hard.

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074256

[pale osprey]

The entire truck got bi annual rust proofing done to it since new the only reason that bed has rust on it is cause all the paint was torn off on the inside of it and then it was exposed to salt

[graceful mortar]

Oh yeah dude then I would have bought that in a heartbeat

[terse zenith]

i am just making sure nothing else happened and there not like going out of business

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/viralhog-tired-bread-carbs-stuffed-gif-12091817

[narrow olive]

BBT - Bus Bread Tips

[dense coral]

Nah LMG would need to fall off real hard to go bankrupt or stop making videos. They're all good mate

Well as good as they can be for what they're going through

[pale osprey]

Watch them do a staff cull

If they are cutting uploads like they say they are a good chunk of staff might become “unnecessary”

[dense coral]

I wouldn't be too surprised...

[pale osprey]

Labs will also take a hit

Less money for improvements

[dense coral]

yea

[hearty spear]

They have quite a bit of income streams. They won't die that quickly.

[hearty spear]

Except that higher attention to detail will require more staff to work on each video.
I expect a significant reorginization

[narrow olive]

I doubt it. Less video's but higher quality could result in a similar workload

[pale osprey]

Similar yess but I doubt it will be identical. Atleast a few are gonna have to go. Could save near a million a year

[dense coral]

Well as long as they can save $500 it's okay I guess

[graceful mortar]

Very tempting. Especially those Excursions.

[hearty spear]

500$ isn't 1 million, so.... yeah

[pale osprey]

Talk about dropping the ball lol

[full fossil]

Bro i dont believe this

[hearty spear]

In my world:
If I can do something differently and save 1 dollar? I don't really care. (This is basically LTTs equiv of 500$)

But if I can save 2000 a year? That's a different story

[graceful mortar]

LMG won't be cutting staff Yevonne already made that promise.

Basically she was alluding to the company having an excessive amount of profit for the quality of product that they were putting out

[long briar]

500 a day for maybe 2 days a week, is 52k....

[graceful mortar]

100 million dollar evaluation by a company that wanted to purchase them likely means they're worth about three times that.

[long briar]

worth doesn't mean anything

[pale osprey]

Or alot less than that. Valuations are a crapshoot especially when its based off an offer to buy

[graceful mortar]

That means that the money machines are going bRRR and can go harder if they drop their internal ad limits.

The company interesting and purchasing's saw money to be made.

[graceful mortar]

True my understanding it was a media holding company they're not really able to just lose money though.

[long briar]

offer just is a number that a company wants to use to negotiate

[pale osprey]

Or its someone with deep pockets trying to “make an offer they cant refuse”

[long briar]

clearly didn't work

[graceful mortar]

Dropping Anker was worth over $100k. Anker didn't have that many ad spots lined up. That gives you an idea of how much money is flowing around.

And that's just initial pay that doesn't include money that they make via commission from the ''links in the video description''

[pale osprey]

Selling lmg would never work. It would instantly suffer the fate of things like smosh

[full fossil]

the fact that the original guys who made smosh bought smosh back again is weird

[graceful mortar]

The company has no debt and has dropped $10,000,000 already on labs.

They own real estate worth approximately six mil. 10 to the right buyer.

[full fossil]

was not expecting that at all

[pale osprey]

It happened again recently with some other company. A guy sold his company the buyers ruined it and the creator got it back for pennies on the dollar

[graceful mortar]

Sounds stressful. But it also works financially at least.

Though that does mean you have to rebuild it up from a destroyed reputation.

[manic edge]

pretty sure the 10 mil was a massive gamble though

[graceful mortar]

It was still cash though. Not having debt allows a company to be extremely lightweight

[manic edge]

true

[full fossil]

this is why if i had a company i wouldn't sell it I'd rather have it go under than just be ruined buy someone else

[graceful mortar]

Or you take the hit when you sell it and maintain ownership of the name forcing them to rebrand it.

[manic edge]

it is sad that a lot of companies just grow to get bought up and killed nowadays

[full fossil]

[pale osprey]

Startup culture

[graceful mortar]

cough wework

[manic edge]

I really hope that doesn't happen with framework

[pale osprey]

The tech doesnt even get rolled into the products of whoever bought it. they just shove it in cold storage

[full fossil]

that reminds me Sandisk has renamed themselves to "Mud" due to the whole WD fiscao

[manic edge]

that's worse than Facebook

[graceful mortar]

It won't. The owner created the company based on principle So likelihood of him compromising those principles is very low

The only way that it won't succeed is if the market won't accept it.

[full fossil]

apparently, idk if they will go with that but just sounds stupid

[manic edge]

well, I sure as hell accept repairable laptops so

[graceful mortar]

And they're saddled with real estate that has been heavily devalued from WFH. (Which is substantially cheaper for companies)

And they have a ton of debt on those real estate purchases that are now sitting empty.

[manic edge]

exactly. it just stagnates so that the corporations don't have to change

[frank bridge]

One part I don't get is why Linus stays presenting so much. I know he may not be brilliant at other aspects of the business but it still seems sort of inefficient at the scale they're operating.

[manic edge]

you'd think they would've been able to recoup those during the real estate bubble

[gleaming compass]

Because he enjoys being the face of the company/videos

[full fossil]

well he stepped down as CEO so he can do more fun videos

[pale osprey]

The king of random lost viewers when he passed it off to new hosts. They just got lucky and had good hosts so it rebounded

[graceful mortar]

They purchased before commercial real estate took a dive in 2020. They're eval was right before COVID.

Commercial property has taken a massive hit particularly office buildings which is what WeWork is stuffed to the gills with

[pale osprey]

Now they switched hosts again and we barley hear of the king of random

[manic edge]

well, they could try turning those into appartments

if it's allowed

[austere mulch]

two words, zoning issues.

[full fossil]

lol they prob charge absurd prices for a room

Wework is pennies compared to Evergrande’s failure

[pale osprey]

They average 20k views with 12.5m subs now

[manic edge]

the only use of zoning is to separate industrial from homes

that's all it's good for

[graceful mortar]

AUG 14th

[harsh quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/tazaparis-lego-movie-lego-eat-emmet-gif-24165256

[graceful mortar]

It's usually not, that and again that have to have the cash flow... 🤣🤣

[frank bridge]

Converting commercial to residential only works with old commercial buildings, if at all.

[manic edge]

wonder where that bailout money went

[full fossil]

🍞 Time

[pale osprey]

A ceos pocket

[manic edge]

they can just ask uncle Sam for another baillout

[full fossil]

FromSoftware
Eldin Ring? Nah.
Armored Core 6? RAHHH!!!!!!

[frank bridge]

Just renting out warehousing is pretty profitable though.

[manic edge]

open concept apartments time

no walls, no privacy, 200 dollars monthly

ez cash

[full fossil]

I meaaan…

[graceful mortar]

GOOD! Uber used to pay enough to where you could eventually justify it as long as you did it for 5 to 10 years. In 2017 that all changed.

Hopefully this also cuts the throat of Amazon with their use of independent contractors for delivery.

Out there paying $0.50 per mile driven.... Meanwhile our fuel costs were well into .22 to .30 per mile!

These gig companies need to be held accountable for the wear and tear they put on people's assets.

Especially because they all have clauses where they can drop you at any time so they could put $100,000 miles away on your car and then drop you and you didn't get a chance to ROI because you didn't get far enough in with enough time to actually begin to build profit.

TLDR; gig economies are just reverse mortgages on your car.

[frail wasp]

courtyard apartments exist. similar concept