public-chat

[dreamy rose]

i cant believe either.

[storm wraith]

I think Linus might have been on a table
The joke is not that bad if he didnt know what had happened

[crude kernel]

That has absolutely sent me, ty for sharing

[south stone]

Oh you speak spanish? 😮

[prime solstice]

yw

[silent lichen]

OH NO, we have to wait one minute to chat?!?!?!?!?!?

[sudden zephyr]

This actually makes a lot of sense, time to have this as explanation number 1

[tender geyser]

LOOOL

[proper flame]

the verge

[wheat horizon]

comment they made to verge via email

[cerulean bone]

Literally 1984

[main cloak]

i speak some portuguese actually, no spanish tho. was born in brazil and my entire family lives there still

[short escarp]

So anyone else be len watching these crazy Fousey streams?

[graceful burrow]

Verge article

[storm wraith]

Yea Im thinking like a big conference table you can sit/stand on

[wraith crypt]

Bruh 🤣

[indigo flume]

is there a forum post that gives a TLDR?

[fallow lake]

I think James is the kind of guy who will say silly things and then not know why people sus him

[south stone]

Aw man, don't mention 1984 so much, I don't want to chug a new book. Lol

[kindred plover]

So.... the Warship bot doesnt like the...ya know ...ex-ual... part of Ace.
As someone who is....ouch.

[normal cargo]

If there's a book worth chugging it's that

[wind umbra]

1984 is not a good binge book

[alpine hatch]

There has already been comments saying he was the one doing the SA and that he is a fan of Jordan Peterson which would all be on brand together.

[oak kindle]

why

[blazing cosmos]

This is simply good soup

[main cloak]

also in general my week has been rather eventful: first my new doors keep breaking (hinges loosening, handles falling off etc etc), then my new shower clogged, then my new outlets didnt work right (my apartment is new btw), then my new laptop broke
why did have to get a job, go to a diff school and move all at the same time? i feel like this was a bad idea but then again, living alone is cool

[indigo pendant]

I wonder that too. Inappropriate doesn't necessarily equate to guilt. A bad attempt at a joke could simply be a bad attempt at a joke.

[sudden zephyr]

Even if that's the case, for anyone taking it at face value, a subsequent explanation of that isn't going to help

[kindred plover]

how am i supposed to know. Already reached out to a mod.
My guess, its just an issue with the bot

[indigo flume]

can we talk about how impressive Alex's engineering knowledge? i have a BSME, and i'm blown away by how smart that dude is lol

[short escarp]

Long story short, Madison decided to start some drama and threw a bunch of accusations out.

[fallow lake]

I saw the Jordan Peterson bit, who said he did SA?

[storm wraith]

Did Madison say that or else this seems very speculative
Also jordan peterson has had some good takes

[normal cargo]

Animal farm ?

[main cloak]

Alex and Emily are the goats fr

[oak kindle]

??? bro

[wind umbra]

Animal farm is a lot less dense, easier to binge read

[south stone]

That's not the way to approach a seemingly urgent matter.

[alpine hatch]

Speculation absolutely. I don’t want to say it’s definite.

[tender geyser]

jordan peterson fans are all nazis and evil!

/s

[full fossil]

I think they should add a sponsor spot every time there is a new speaker in the apology video

[sudden zephyr]

luke where

[frail wasp]

Y'all are prudes for thinking james's joke was SA related

[vapid smelt]

they have like 3 or 4 alexes and 2 emilys

[amber cradle]

I don't think that correlates but have fun

[deft turret]

Hello guys Im new. Im building a i5 13600 rtx 4070 build and wanted to ask you for some inputs. I would like if you would recommend me a motherboard (cpu is not gona be overclocked). Im looking to get ddr5. Also what psu would be great for it.

[storm wraith]

I actually dont read it like that either
But again, I belive Madison
She dosent gain anything for lying

[main cloak]

Luke is binging that chilling in the back with the FP infrastructure. I think hes pretty based but we never see him nowadays unfortunately.

[fallow lake]

Jordan Peterson has both good and terrible takes.

[tepid jasper]

speculative

[short escarp]

I just don't really believe her. Never liked her since that very first video she was in when everyone else seem to fall in love with her, but I just find her really annoying. And then the whole community campaign to get her hired was just utterly ridiculous and dumb.

[sudden zephyr]

mf it's like cat in the hat where they all have the same name, fuckin thing 1 and thing 2 😭

[oak kindle]

good psych knowledge, everything else mostly bad

[cerulean bone]

Jordan going into a coma to get over his addiction Peterson

[indigo flume]

who is that?

[full fossil]

|| attention seeking??? ||

[frail wasp]

She's an internet personality. Of course there is opportunity to gain

[tiny saffron]

Iirc there were multiple womens harassed but only Madison spoke out. Mind you for now we still have no evidence tho. For me I can't pick a side

[cold tusk]

Lol wtf is wrong with you.

[alpine hatch]

His good ones are like common sense like having a clean room is good.

[frozen oxide]

Hi, terrible timing lmao. You might be able to ask in a different channel, but you have 0% chance of getting useful information and discussion about tech in this channel right now

[main cloak]

13600 and 4070 is and oddball combo, i'd say go fo ryzen 7 instead as you get more cores and also just generally a better time with AMD CPUs from experience with Ryzen imho

[final matrix]

i mean, jordan peterson isn't perfect by any means but i wouldn't go out and say he's some sign of a SA-ist

[storm wraith]

this 100%, he starts talking about politics or women... Im out lol

[normal cargo]

Well we can agree on that, was def an easier read for sure

[amber patio]

Linus is just a mascot at this point. To me he was just clueless and didn't double check anything. Probably why he handed the company to someone else who could do better then him. Running a company isn't easy.

[tepid jasper]

throw enough shit at the wall and eventually some of it sticks

[indigo pendant]

Everyone has something to gain for lying. Especially when the company being accused is already dealing with bad publicity.

That's doesn't mean she is. Only that LMG is taking the right approach by having an outside investigator look into it.

[amber cradle]

THIS

[oak kindle]

completely agree, but that is 0 reason to write off accusations immediately, you have serious issues if youre actually going to do that

[royal flame]

#the-wan-show message

[indigo flume]

why are you all talking about JP?

[deft turret]

Okey thanks

[slim mirage]

huh

[short escarp]

If it was anyone else I would believe them.

[delicate jacinth]

• dislike a character
• justifiable stance of hating the internets views on them,
• therefore everything that character says is invalid???

[sudden zephyr]

To my knowledge madison never said that, also i've never heard JP insinuate any SA behavior or stuff

[alpine hatch]

No one is saying this though lol.

[final matrix]

yes it was said above

[main cloak]

i dont know, good question

[normal cargo]

Peterson is a right dipshit n all, nuff said

[bronze hatch]

r people still arguing abt the madison shit😭😭

[storm wraith]

if by attention you mean getting shit on by internet people like you, then sure

[harsh quartz]

🦐

[tender geyser]

what does SA stand for

[amber patio]

I'm on the fence with all this drama.

[slate tulip]

RIP, I had to go deal with work things, can someone summarize the last hour of drama or so that I missed please?

[amber cradle]

Because some goofball made a hot take and said people who watch JP SA people

[south stone]

Bear in mind someone went through the RISK of recording a meeting about that very same subject. I'd say there's more that employees can't/won't tell due to consequences.

[quasi depot]

Silver Alpakas

[indigo flume]

why is JP blocked word?

[oak kindle]

so you actively disbelieve her because you dont like her?

[short escarp]

Her as a person and her personality and Even following her on Twitter, I wouldn't be shocked if she overdramatized it and then tried to play the victim

[prime solstice]

sonic advanced

[alpine hatch]

Where?

[main cloak]

summs it up well, idk why we're even talking about him in the first place

[signal badger]

Social advocate?

[cerulean bone]

damn apparently can't spell out SA I've been jamboozled

[final matrix]

just do from:clowd cole and look a couple messages up

[storm wraith]

I read it as you insinuating it

"There has already been comments saying he was the one doing the SA and that he is a fan of JP which would all be on brand together."

[tepid jasper]

s*xual assault

[sudden zephyr]

k here is scenario:

oh no my willy was played with at work

• no feedback
• expose company handling of SA
• ?????attention seeking??????
• no hope left
• die

[short escarp]

Based on her personality, yeah partially. I also want to see actual evidence before I just blindly believe her. No one should be blindly believing what anyone says.

It may be far-fetched but she could also just be doing this to get revenge

[delicate jacinth]

What at all does any human has to gain, by any of that
You also admit over dramatisation, meaning there’s still a kernel of truth in it

[south stone]

So you are being subjective all the way.

[alpine hatch]

Lol
Lmao
Lmfao

[fallow lake]

Madison doesn't strike me as likable. But her claims are still serious and that leaked recording is telling that at least something was going on

[main cloak]

Sturmabteilung nah jk its S*xual Assault

[unkempt jay]

To all the copium addicts in chat:
https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline

[bronze hatch]

have y’all seen the Bambu Lab printers ghost print starting in the middle of the night ☠️

[sudden zephyr]

exactly, any allegation shouldn't be taken seriously from face value, really should be some evidence

[oak kindle]

i agree, nobody should believe her without more evidence, but your theories are nothing more than conjecture and extremely harmful given you have no clue if shes being honest or not

[storm wraith]

you know her personally? Or you watched some LLT vids she was in so you think you know her?

[quaint venture]

Yeah that clip shows that something happened and people in the company are aware of it

[sick coral]

did u not watch this???????

[whole marlin]

So Linus claimed to The Verge that he had no knowledge of the issues Madison raised in her thread, but this would directly contradict that statement, and it's from his own mouth.

[indigo flume]

ok drama aside, because i don't know what's going on there, do 3D printers really put off VOC fumes that are unhealthy or other fumes?

[frail wasp]

Not evidence. Possibly not related

[fossil frost]

resin printers, yes, FDM filament printers, no

[wind umbra]

Resin printers do produce fumes

[dusty rune]

seems like the smart way to go about this

[manic edge]

yep. and i hope linus talked to him after the meeting. jokes like that aren't acceptable

[signal badger]

I don't wanna blame the victim or falsely accuse anyone, but Madison's timing is weird, usually u report to the police and authorities right away, you don't wait for these types of allegations. But then, who knows how different people handle these types of issues, so she might have waited. I was full on fire against LMG on the other issues but this one is quite different so I am very skeptical.

[rocky knot]

James joke could still just be a bad timed joke, not nessacarially SA related. BUUTTT thats hard to prove.

[short escarp]

Yeah I did not like her on screen personality. And then I based her Twitter post on what she's like off screen and I'm just not a fan.

Now does that mean she's lying? No.

But I'm also going to take everything she says with a grain of salt.

[amber cradle]

This won't be pushed aside for long ijs my guy.

[tall sonnet]

what was so damning about this?

[alpine hatch]

I did insinuate that being someone who is into Peterson, and would do some SA is on brand, but not that all Peterson fans do SA. He does have a very specific type of person who becomes a fan of his.

[whole marlin]

Who wants to bet that his take away from this won't be "stop lying in public statements", but instead will be "who recorded me?!?!"

[storm wraith]

I rewatched the Asus ROG video and can see why she got hired. She had bantz with Linux and seemed hilarious lol. Was sad to see her go.

[hasty geode]

Resin printers 100%. FDM filament printers, that you're printing at high (eg PETG) temperatures, with a heatbreak that has teflon inside, also yes. Otherwise no.

[harsh quartz]

just seems like rainbow vomit to me but i dont think liking RGB is hateworthy

[sudden zephyr]

Whether it was a year ago or now, no matter when she tweeted that stuff she'e still gonna get bad rap because of "attention seeking"

[frail wasp]

Y'all are internet sleuths trying to echo chamber your own point of view

[indigo pendant]

Making a poor joke does not equate to guilt. It's not like tech nerds are known for their social graces afterall.

[delicate jacinth]

That’s far and away from, I don’t believe her

[full fossil]

You have to do the right thing in life, if you don't like your job then leave.

[normal cargo]

It's pretty common actually, you see people come out the wood work when an influential person falls from grace. They feel safer taking about it without repurcssion

[south stone]

Out of 12 million suscribers, even 0.01% asking her "what's going on with LTT" is a fuck ton of people. She mentioned that a lot of people asked her, and in light of current events, she just decided to speak out loud now.

[short escarp]

It's not impossible she just made the whole thing up, or is blowing it up worse than it actually was and really just wants to make lmg look bad.

That still is possible.
Or she could be telling the truth. Both are still possible.

[rocky knot]

they have 3rd party investigations on it. Im waiting for that

[main cloak]

personally you should always take any allegation with a grain of salt, entertain both ideas of being right and wrong because unless you know all the facts you cant possibly know, therefore you should atleast be able to have an argument on either side. thats just my take on people being too quick to rule on allegations online tho

[dusty rune]

can almoat understand shit, mind making the audio worse?

[indigo flume]

damn this drama is way sounds more serious then i thought, yikes

[full fossil]

Ok here's the deal:
You're being ignorant. Simple as that.

[pulsar rapids]

Maybe the timing is not weird if you look at Madison's first message, which mentions the tweet is To stop the speculation and DM's I am receiving about why she left LTT. Perhaps people were asking about working conditions there and people were also asking employees/former employees about it.

[full fossil]

lmg made it to the front page of reddit

[storm wraith]

lets spin that thread. WHY would she want to make LMG look bad? like a year after she left?

[dreamy rose]

Allegedly. nothing is set in stone until there is evidence. which there is none yet so stop peddling your broken logic.

[frail wasp]

Maybe you'll find your answers on the lttforum

[safe radish]

NO MORE TECH TIPS. NO MORE TECH TIPS. We ate them all

[signal badger]

Yeah, that's why I am skeptical, these are serious legal issues we are talking about, not just a simple "Linus fuqing up the community" anymore. We should be a little careful when we make judgements here without any proof or evidence from the inside

[short escarp]

Because she could still be salty or mad about how she perceives she was treated, maybe she believes she should have got some type of special treatment because she was a "fan favorite" there could be a whole endless amount of reasons. People are weird.

And, she also knows if they were to sue her for defamation it could make them look even worse because they would be "attacking a victim"

[main cloak]

damn, linus from 15 yrs ago is somehow different yet the same. still small i suppose but now with beard haha

[amber cradle]

Specify some people, not everyone.

[full fossil]

they aren't

[indigo pendant]

Answering the hypothetical: Having just dealt with an ex-staff member we let go at my company, bitterness lasts a long time for some people.

[pulsar rapids]

To be clear there are no legal issues and we haven't seen any signs of legal issues. Madison stated it's not worth pursuing legal action over. We don't see legal issues from other affected actors either (like Billet)

[signal badger]

The reason Y doesn't matter anymore, but if it's true or not. Y should be left after we know the actual facts. It's no more simple issues here.

[full fossil]

Linus Cat tips

[storm wraith]

we arent lol, the forums and reddit are blowing up with ppl NOT meatriding

[halcyon dagger]

.. it never ends

[sudden zephyr]

no tv, no beer, make homer go crazy

[quaint venture]

All the tech tips left due to being s*xually harassed

[amber patio]

Again, the whole company is at fault.

[full fossil]

Most of us aren't bc we have the ability to not jump to conclusions unlike the "meatriders" of any side of the story

[south stone]

15.5m suscribers.
Even 0.001% asking Madison about LTT, is 1500 people. I believe there was people asking her, just as there was people asking about Emily.

[short escarp]

If she was making the entire thing up and they sued her for defamation, LMG would still look like the bad guys in the situation.

In the court of public opinion. I think she knows that

[safe radish]

Stop guys, he has to support linus because he only owns ltt merch leave him alone!!

[oak kindle]

go outside

[dreamy rose]

shut yours up too if you aren't Skeptical at least.

[quick wigeon]

My 2ct on the Madison thing:
Every lie has a sparkle of truth.
The stuff written reads disconnected, and i do not mean timely.
I assume that some things are either blown out of proportions or just have literally been interpreted wrong by her, by the way she writes things.
I do wanna note here that i do believe that it is not all just BS.

[signal badger]

U sound like he is gonna die or go to jail soon😂

[pulsar rapids]

Honestly not a bad take, because from the apology video, they are going to work on making it right. I think they're sincere because they laid out fairly concrete steps early on, like publishing standardized test procedures and accepting community feedback on those "living documents"

[lyric arrow]

linus when he realized he couldve just taken the 100 mil and not had to deal with any of this

[main cloak]

+1, grudges and bitterness can really just boil silently in the background and then shit like this comes to light, always ugly for everyone involved

[harsh quartz]

im gettin tacos. anyone want some?

[full sparrow]

Carne asada?

[tepid jasper]

me thanks

[normal cargo]

Not really, if they can prove she lied I doubt many of them would have a leg to stand on

[amber cradle]

No I got pizza hut

[dusty rune]

kebabs on top

[indigo pendant]

Defamation is a harder hurdle for a public figure. All they can do is release the investigator's findings unabridged.

[pastel dove]

good shout

[sudden zephyr]

if they're willing to correct their quality and fix what they did to billet labs and pwnage then cool, but now there's a bigger fish frying

[main cloak]

uh yea sure, hard or soft shell tacos tho? also if you can ill take a soda, i am starving my G

[amber patio]

At least LTT isn't doing the nastier shit other companies have done.

[harsh quartz]

na, shrimp tacos, cant be beat

[dreamy rose]

Activision.

[short escarp]

How could they prove that she lied? It's very hard to prove when something didn't happen

[graceful burrow]

S*xual harassment isn't that bad? Lmao

[storm wraith]

True Ive been to some after work parties...

[full fossil]

Me with a seafood allergy: yep, they rly can't

[amber cradle]

Ok now that THAT sounds good.

[tepid jasper]

linus: become blizzard entertainment

[pastel dove]

They going to get a investigator, It be Jay to cents so it take a while to come out

[pulsar rapids]

I think the sentiment is it's bad, but it's such an easy thing to fall into and much larger companies have suffered similar issues with culture (and some are even worse, like what I've heard about Uber)

[strange condor]

Madison making stuff up would not end well for her, like ltt diehard fanboys already showed how far they will go.

Even if the SA allegations are more sensationalised then they actually are. Other points madison made especially around work culture are on point with other staffs feelings

[ivory flare]

it makes sense though. it would be ten thousand times harder to come out with information against someone perceived as a pillar of the community and untouchable. when it is made aware lmg has shady shit going on, it allows others to speak up

[tall sonnet]

realistically what do you guys wanna see at this point in terms of ltt response?

[sudden zephyr]

tacos ⛔
shawarma 👍

[winter sundial]

I wonder how the LMG staff are handling this channel rn

[harsh quartz]

soft shell and no can do, drink some water.

[prime solstice]

a ukulele

[quaint venture]

Guys, I’m an empath and I’m sensing people are a little angry about this drama

[alpine hatch]

Both Canada and the US has strong speech protections and Linus is a public figure and LTT is a corporation. It would take a very strong case that she cause immeasurable damage to the company or him.

[dreamy rose]

for you its "Cant be EAT" is it not?

[short escarp]

You can accuse people of saying something to you and it's almost impossible to prove that they didn't say it, especially if you don't list a specific time and place.

[main cloak]

damn, ill take two soft shells then and i have water somewhere i guess

[normal cargo]

Exactly, but if they sue'd and succeeded, thet would've made a case ?. Hence nobody would really have a leg to stand on.

[storm wraith]

Its actually sadly common as frick

[amber cradle]

England is my city, ketchup on my shawarma.

[dusty rune]

kebab > shawarma honestly

[tepid jasper]

doesn't make it any less bad?

[graceful burrow]

I know
It being common doesn't make it any less absolutely fucked

[pulsar rapids]

Yeah, which is why it's important that every opportunity be taken to address SA and prevent it from happening

[winter sundial]

I have no clue

[wind umbra]

I want linus to come to my house and weep with apology and give me his backpack and screwdriver and also to stop acting so emotional

[sudden zephyr]

YOU FUCKING MONSTER

[harsh quartz]

cool cool ill be back in a bit with the tacos, i promise

[full fossil]

Guys calm down please (I still get turned on by lttstore merch underwear picture(withlinus))

[short escarp]

In the court of public opinion, even if they did succeed they would still look like the bad guy.

[amber patio]

I doubt it happened. Sounds rude of me but yeah I don't think those allegations are true, at least not completely. I would sit on the fence for that one and wait and see.

[tawdry rapids]

Doner/Iskender is the way to go

[main cloak]

shawarma is cheaper tho and also depending on where you get it, it can be fucking godly.

[storm wraith]

||me too 😳 ||

[indigo comet]

Who runs the @ lmgcommunity discorrd account what 😭

[normal cargo]

That's the part I disagree with, if they can prove that Madison lied, the tables would turn

[dreamy rose]

something that's sus to me is the way she addressed Skeptical people asking for evidence as if they were assholes who were defending linus and belittling her or whatever they were doing.

[mild current]

We are still talking about the same shit!

[ivory flare]

sit on the fence vs “i doubt it happened”

[amber cradle]

Gimme that rebel yell boah.

[fierce moth]

In my personal opinion, that's when you get a 3rd party firm to investigate those claims

[frozen oxide]

Just a quick note, about the meeting recording -- there's no evidence whatsoever that this was actually after Madison's departer (or shortly after, anyway). Not saying that's not the case, but I'm saying an innocuous video that's recontextualized can be very dangerous to build assumptions on.

[night sequoia]

So how many victims we up to now or still just maddison. And good morning all

[tepid jasper]

which is why they hired a third party firm

[prisma stump]

This chat still on fire?

[glacial prawn]

Yeah

[short escarp]

Unless the SA was caught on camera or there were eyewitnesses, It's still just her accusing. They would still need to have a meeting over just that.

[main cloak]

also either way, ill go eep cause i have work later (now its 00:32, i work at 9:00) so i should try and catch atleast some sleep before setting up my new work machine again. so yea gn everyone, and lets hope chat cools down at some point

[sudden zephyr]

hmmm on my twitter trending tab theres "linus" and direcly under that its "never back down, never what"

[pulsar rapids]

It's not sus because if you were in her position, you'd probably find that downright frustrating. If someone says "I got robbed", the default is to believe them. If someone says "I suffered SA and abuse at work", the default is to be skeptical. Isn't that a bit nonsensical?

[blazing cosmos]

This plushie always creeped me out ngl

[ivory flare]

so what should people without video proof of their SA do? like seriously, what point are you ACTUALLY trying to make

[peak kiln]

Looks like someone has leaked a recording of an internal HR meeting after Madison's departure. Video is on Reddit

[wooden musk]

We probably aren't going to see a response for a little while the investigation goes on and the response probably won't go into a lot of detail. No matter what happens people that want to see LTT fail will be pissed no matter what.

[strange condor]

That doesn't help her case yeah... She is acting s bit weird but again, wouldn't put it past her knowing how fucked up some of the community is.

[winter sundial]

Link????

[amber patio]

Exactly

[storm wraith]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15t1mzn/mandatory_meeting_the_after_madisons_departure/

[half stump]

Sitting on the fence is pretty different from "I doubt it happened". Only part that sounded weird to me was where she cut her leg open "so badly [Madison] would have to go to the ER to get it stapled back together".

[short escarp]

My point is people should not just blindly believe her just because she's talking.

[tepid jasper]

do they just want every woman to wear body cams like police or what

[night sequoia]

Ok. So what's happening is it still just maddison or are we talking the full cosby or Weinstein?

[amber cradle]

Oh no is Colton fired, again?!

[quaint venture]

Guys we need more Linus defenders, I can’t handle my favourite rich man being attacked, please stop it.

[mild arrow]

Love how everyone on youtube is piling on to get the views from this...

[pulsar rapids]

Imagine if you got robbed on a street with no cameras and the police refused to open a case because you don't have video evidence and witness testimony

[ivory flare]

that is incredibly profound and hasn’t been said a trillion times. your willingness to go so in depth is only rivaled by the LTT labs team.

[full fossil]

Linus this time dw

[fathom lark]

To be honest, hopefully not reading it. RIght or wrong; everyone outside of the company is working on one side or whatevers offered publicly and in whatever style its offered. Not defending anyone but I can totally see something small like "I used a red marker instead of a blue one" turn into "You won't BELIEVE what this person thinks of the color blue!" on the Internet.

[storm wraith]

Yes! Buy gopro stocks NOW!!

[indigo pendant]

React videos is cheap to make and you don't need a $1M lab to prove anything.

[kind pilot]

Yall can someone give me like a summarized version of wtf is happening 😭

[short escarp]

Lol This made me chuckle

[amber cradle]

To them pain is money.

[blazing cosmos]

There do be some heavy moderation goin on in these here parts 🤠

[mild current]

Use a bit of Google mate
Sure, people can assault each other under all sorts of circumstances
Listen to this rhetoric for a second, it doesn't help

[tepid jasper]

no there isnt, the mods are dead and weve killed them

[fading belfry]

Damn I just spent 3 hours reading about all the crap going on at LMG... Not looking good. I'm gonna grab the popcorn. Enjoy

[normal cargo]

Happens all the time, in situation of like domestic abuse and whatnot.

[mild arrow]

Its like Linus literally went on a rant last week on wan show about react videos or something

[full fossil]

BRO IF YOU DON'T SHU- 💀

[storm wraith]

must be lying for attention 😂

[amber cradle]

No no we took them to Chili's.

[blazing cosmos]

I just watched 5 separate messages get rm -f

[dreamy rose]

i really cant trust it fully and only take it as Allegations. not only because the lack of evidence but also the fact that Allegations of this nature can destroy lives, and people have completely lied about shit like this before and DESTROYED innocent lives.

[wooden musk]

At the end of the day LTT will be fine and will probably be better after all this. This isn't going to kill LTT.

[pulsar rapids]

that's the hope

[amber tendon]

Is it confirmed that there's an investigation? I've only been catching small bits of what's going on so I easily could have missed that statement.

[half stump]

yes

[fierce moth]

Agreed

[frail wasp]

Imagine self mutilating for a day off and not opening a police report

[fathom lark]

Some issues with either LMG's handling of situations, or presenting of information; have been called into question by both a few fellow youtube creators, large fever pitch mobs of Internet residents (both pro and neutral or in between), and the back and forth handling of discussions related to those statements over the past few days has stirred up both sides into an absolute cluster of mostly emotion based explosions of comments at either extreme.

[tepid jasper]

i do hope they flush out the bad management though, especially should the allegations come out to be true

[mild arrow]

I can get the glass door review if you want to make an account

[mild current]

People need to learn how to be strong and focus less on complaining
Be more interested in achieving your goals then burning everything down

[steel crypt]

Yes

[kind pilot]

Thank you😭

[short escarp]

Reputations and lives can be destroyed over false accusations and the court of public opinion.

The very system used to protect people can also be used as a weapon.

Yes, this should be taken seriously. Should be taken seriously if she's telling the truth, and it should be taken seriously if she is lying.

Both options are extremely damaging.

[storm wraith]

Madisons glassdoor review is here, pretty damning
https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15sor9s/madisons_original_review_on_glassdoor/

[amber cradle]

Mr Tong is going to have to completely restructure the company. Which is a good thing in the end

[pulsar rapids]

On the flip side, what would opening a police report do

[full fossil]

linus pulling a trust me bro

[amber patio]

I'm leaning on doubt but sitting on the fence with it still. But yeah that does seem off. I have to look more into it still.

[fluid jacinth]

Your still on here lol

[full fossil]

James making an inappropriate joke in an HR meeting is just top tier stuff. You can't make it up

[olive sinew]

LLT is gonna be okay

[deep scaffold]

I was at LTX last year and Linus tried to schloober my meat but I reported him to Yvonne and she resolved it so I believe Linus in this scenario.

[mild arrow]

It seams like its the only review that is bad

[tepid jasper]

well it wouldve been good for her to have done so, if she was able to (and i understand that given her situation it wasn't possible), because it wouldve left a paper trail for her case - but i cant blame her for not doing so

[mild current]

Madison shit tips

[short escarp]

It probably will be. I think this will blow over and may take a little bit longer than some other things, but I still think it will as long as the content remains good

[hidden hill]

For the WANShow Bingo, should we cap the possible squares at 75, or at 100?
We have 96 currently, need to cull some if we're going to stick with realism.
http://wanshow.bingo/

Up arrow for 100, down arrow for 75

[frail wasp]

Hotpokket vibes

[dreamy rose]

there's literally no reason to just be siding with the allegations right now you are either Skeptical or you are viewing this whole thing wrong and your point of view should be taken with a grain of salt. with either way you swing and not being in the middle, your arguments are Fragile. anything could come out proving you right or wrong.

[full fossil]

Might as well go for 100 if you have 96 already

[pulsar rapids]

It's not exactly off. If you look in the largest country in the world, there are people breaking their arms and legs to avoid being sent to a neighboring country with a certain undesirable and dangerous job.

If you feel like there's a massive amount of pressure to not even use the time off you're entitled to on paper, I can understand why something like that might happen

[storm wraith]

They only s*xually harrassed one employee poggers

[sterile sky]

Sooo can anyone tell me tf is goin on because at this point I cant keep track of it

[tulip frost]

i side with charli xcx

[tiny saffron]

Ngl, the reddit video is kinda, bland

[blazing cosmos]

"It's okay officer. Only one person was shot." 💀

[mild arrow]

As I just stated in the floatplane chat. I find it interesting that when SA happens at their work its the place of bussiness fault and not the induvial doing the SA

[indigo pendant]

Been an interesting few days. But my opinion is to let LMG's actions determine if they will start producing better content. SA victims should be free to speak up at any time. People who leave a company 100% can lie about working conditions. LMG is right to launch a third-party investigation. And a poor joke do not mean that person is guilty of anything other than making a poor joke.

[severe wraith]

Womp womp

[full fossil]

So what happened with linus basically?

[quaint venture]

Sir I only killed one child, what’s the issue

[vapid smelt]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/16/23834190/linus-tech-tips-gamersnexus-madison-reeves-controversy

[hoary bison]

Idk, siding with LMG management here seems pretty wrong, even if you ignore the Madison stuff and stick to the verifiable wrongs

[tardy walrus]

The subreddit is probably a way better place to get news than on here just saying

[mild current]

Censorship vibes

[amber cradle]

You did NOT say that. Omg you did. YOU DID.

[alpine hatch]

It’s ok I have another

[crimson path]

🕊️ Going to the sky today yall, peace

[short escarp]

If factual

[tiny saffron]

Fuck it I'm take on Dave2D

[blazing cosmos]

Real homies only aim for themselves.

[quaint venture]

🕊️Have fun up there 💯

[strong fern]

the Verge article, hard skip

[mild current]

Madison and GN are trying to censor LTT, nothing more, nothing less

[storm wraith]

Yes because a workplace is responsible for its employees. A death in the workplace for excample has to be fully investigated workplace wide

[dreamy rose]

i slightly lean towards the allegations being overdramatic/ not as serious. because of both the Linus brand of humor and the fact it sounds like shes been brewing hatred ever since. but i'm not set in this way i can sway based on Evidence that comes out

[harsh quartz]

the Dbrand subreddit has a meme of a linus skinned "not an apology" phone case

[tardy walrus]

And who cares if they monetize the video or not gn could of too

[indigo comet]

You joined today. Begone thot

[hoary bison]

Linus has been a loose cannon for months/years and has been cocking up for ages. Management only now getting a hold of how to manage him/the company is pretty grim.

[short escarp]

I said this before. Luke has a strong ethical compass in the fact that he's been there this entire time. It is more reason for me to believe it's nowhere near as bad as she says.

[blazing cosmos]

Cocking up. That's new

[past egret]

goldilocks:

[mild current]

Get a job

[dreamy rose]

get a 7000 card not a 4000. all 4000 series cards are ugly and are gonna require a walking stick to not bend or die after like 2 years or something.

[full fossil]

Neutrality is based

[solid cedar]

wow rude

[tall sonnet]

debating if madison is lying is possibly the most pointless thing to do here. really all there is to do is assume she's telling the truth, perform an investigation, and if ultimately proven true, remove or otherwise reprimand the individual(s) responsible and proceed with business

[pulsar rapids]

You can have both people with a strong ethical compass, and people who are unable to control a work environment and let these things slip through. Furthermore, the ethical compass can apply differently in different areas

[storm wraith]

as a rebuttal, a /s if you will

[quaint venture]

I’m gonna cripple the other one from the cervical vertebrae down

[amber cradle]

So it's truly picking a side? Is it a centrist to just sit back, watch the fireworks?

[hoary bison]

Luke was isolating himself from LTT since this stuff kicked off so idk. Dude is sticking too "I manage floatplane, not LTT"

[mild arrow]

Yes but if you were to be in a house it would be the same thing. Its not a business thing for death is a normal thing but with SA its the business fault. In a home environment or public it would be a criminal case not something for a bussiness to deal with.

[blazing cosmos]

If done correctly. If done poorly it indicates a poorly formed opinion.

[harsh quartz]

guilty until proven innocent, right?

[graceful burrow]

He no longer officially manages floatplane btw, he's back at ltt

[dreamy rose]

i gave you an answer to what you asked. if you aren't satisfied ignore it

[alpine hatch]

Centrism isn’t neutrality… they are not the same thing

[maiden nest]

just wanted to come back to say there’s proof now (with screenshots) that they deleted several comments mentioning madison

[quaint venture]

Centrism is fine but most centrists are cowards and don’t actually understand what centrism is

[amber cradle]

I don't use system. But yes I see that as sarcasm. It was still pretty dark sarcasm.

[pulsar rapids]

also there's a fine line between humor, and bullying

[fierce moth]

Wait what

[blazing cosmos]

How is s*x banned, but that isn't? Lmao

[rancid pike]

Yeah

[storm wraith]

"Its not a business thing for death is a normal thing"

No, here it would be also a "business thing", workplace inquiry etc

[alpine hatch]

Sounds like some government money for me.

[amber cradle]

Well that's good then. At least I'm not a centrist then.

[lapis nexus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15t4ov2/linus_is_sorry/

[fierce moth]

Personally I'm not watching any of the videos, cause its not really important to me

[digital haven]

Sorry my life doesn’t revolve around YouTube drama, where are these screenshots? And is there evidence that lmg themselves removed it or the comments were just removed because YouTube does it all the time

[maiden nest]

i can DM you the screenshots, can’t post them here

[dreamy rose]

mate the only clowns i see are people who believe the Allegations are 100% fact. there's less going for it than against i'm affraid.

[patent violet]

Nothing about SA/SH are humorous

[storm wraith]

Centrism to me reads often as someone who doesn't want to take a stand over anything

[prime solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-exotic-tiger-king-never-recover-financially-broke-gif-16765645

[mild current]

Not as rude as living off handouts from others, whether it be sitting around LTT and looking pretty, shitposting vendors on YT or complaining in discord about something irrelevant to your life on government payments/in your parents house

[alpine hatch]

Making a comment saying that you do or don’t support both sides is centrism, neutrality would be… not posting.

[mild arrow]

But what I am saying is if death happens at all its investigated by police unless its at a hospital. SA is apparently only a business problem and not a criminal problem unless it happens outside of the workplace

[hoary bison]

LTT is publishing too many videos and is riddled with inaccurate data is verifiable fact, and a lot for LMG to reflect on. Linuses attitude to this has been grim throughout this saga

[storm wraith]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15su54s/deleted_madison_comments_on_the_youtube_apology/

*Might have also been reported by users and removed by Youtube/Google

[halcyon dagger]

There are no sacred cows in comedy. ANYTHING "can" be funny.

[fierce moth]

I seriously think that they shouldn't have done a video regarding this, and let a 3rd party hr firm take care of things

[blazing cosmos]

Wgiiiaiaooaosbsbnaka

[dreamy rose]

LTT working too hard is a straight fact. an Allegation however is not. and people think it is.

[wraith crypt]

Jimmy Carr and Carlin definitely prove that 😂

[solid cedar]

lol k

[full fossil]

My brother in Christ, you are arguing with someone on Discord, how do you think you have the right to call someone jobless💀

[half stump]

https://x.com/linustech/status/1691944990631707102?s=46&t=6C3Mz1IHkGiRi7P01rkmgA
New tweet about Madison

[sterile otter]

New tweet just dropped

[tardy walrus]

Good

[harsh quartz]

jimmy carr specifically

[spiral surge]

Pain

I can't wait till a few months or weeks from now when all this is resolved
AND We know what the actuall fuck it going on

(this is mainly about the madison stuff THe stuff wit the cooler is more understood)

[amber cradle]

That is correct. Watch Ari Shaffir or Joey Diaz if you want to. No sacred cows with those guys.

[alpine hatch]

This comment is always a crutch for unfunny people who just want to be an ass, actual funny people don’t have to make this comment.

[hoary bison]

Linus is working his employees too hard* is a more accurate depiction

[quaint venture]

Yeah because most “centrists” are fucking cowards, proper centrism aims to take ideas and policies from both sides and melding them into a more reasonable approach

[fierce moth]

Whoops thought it was a video, my bad

[halcyon dagger]

one area I will die on my sword for. Comedy is sacred

[elfin solar]

About all they can do tbh.

[digital haven]

Seems like a good response to what was alleged

[tall sonnet]

when it comes to pr and dealing with serious internal issues, yes

it's important that they, or any company, take all allegations seriously. worst case scenario by acting guilty until proven innocent, you "waste" time and resources on what was ultimately a non-issue, but the alternative is not taking it seriously, not investigating, and then the worst case scenario of that path is that the problem is left unsolved and things get way worse in the future

[graceful burrow]

Where's this one?

[full fossil]

Let's hope they're being dead serious on this one

[dreamy rose]

are people happy now? linus responded.

[half stump]

linustech account on Twitter

[blazing cosmos]

Imagine being a wagie at LTT right now 👁👄👁

[indigo pendant]

If we have learned anything the past few days is that Linus was 100% correct in hiring a CEO. I honestly think LMG grew too fast and some important steps were missed in making it a legitimate enterprise.

[wind umbra]

No linus didn't come to my house and apologize for leaving the stove on

[tiny umbra]

did you clowns touch grass yet? na yall still going on repeat haha

[vast onyx]

so no new videos for a week? thats going to be strange, i hope they will still at least do the wan show during this time

[amber cradle]

No way. It's great that they are looking into this.

[iron moth]

https://twitter.com/linustech/status/1691944990631707102?s=61&t=MWvL2zTDs9BGxsjgHJTWqQ

[halcyon dagger]

these people dont get happy

[harsh quartz]

fair, just funny that the internet is backwards from the real justice system in this regard

[digital haven]

No not at all, it is always innocent until proven guilty, I really hope you aren’t in a situation where people presume your guilt before your innocence.

[cerulean canopy]

you know the song

[wraith crypt]

No, I just got my diesel rags wrapped around my pitchfork 🤣

[tall sonnet]

i hope you aren't in a situation when you are wronged and nobody investigates because they just assume you are lying

[storm wraith]

Stop calling people with a job "wagies"
I assume ur on neetbux then

[real linden]

Is chat aware of Linus responding to the verge about Madison?

[frail wasp]

🍿

[plush rivet]

someone gets it

[cosmic copper]

I don’t know if this was posted on yt too, but here

[alpine hatch]

Carlin literally pulled a video because of 9/11 because he knew it was probably not time to make those jokes my dude.

[hallow hare]

tbh there were some glaring issues with that review

[amber cradle]

Try 3 with everything that's going on. It's not a problem at all though.

[blazing cosmos]

Do you prefer the term wage slave then? Nobody at LTT asked for this.

[dreamy rose]

oh right because half the mfs who've joined in the past week wanna see it fall they don't care about facts.

[harsh quartz]

posted on --x-- (twitter)

[digital haven]

Nobody is assuming she is lying, Atleast I’m not, you can be in the middle where you want to investigate what happened while also assuming innocence, not everything is black and white dude

[halcyon dagger]

exactly..

[prime solstice]

👓

[storm wraith]

way to not understand anything he wrote

[tall sonnet]

taking an accusation seriously and starting an investigation does not mean admiting guilt

[fierce moth]

True

[frozen oxide]

Quick reminder that centrism and "neutrality" on average supports the oppressor. This goes for politics, s*xual harassment (thanks warship), and literally anything where there is a power dynamic

[harsh quartz]

or, idk, maybe an employee cause ltt is a company and the people just work there like normal employees. Its just that having an open side facing millions of people puts their misbehavings in public as opposed to a normal company

[halcyon dagger]

just here to watch the world burn and roast themselves

[patent violet]

Because it can be manipulated

[full fossil]

Hello fellow fart smellers

[hallow hare]

your original point was "why are people downvoting the mic review", how can you tell the reason for a downvote to begin with?

[wraith crypt]

Got the marshmallows?

[digital haven]

You literally just said it’s guilty until proven innocent, do you even read what you write yourself? Like dude not having an immediate take on a situation like this is a good thing, wait until facts are brought to the light before assuming one is 100% guilty or 100% innocent

[dreamy rose]

i'm under the impression its stewed for so long and she's believing its worse than it was. its common for it to happen.

[blazing cosmos]

Recent news about the base income of people working at LTT, in Vancouver, the most expensive region in Canada - is making me disagree strongly. They are being treated like cattle.

[frozen oxide]

And because it is a logical fallacy that "between two extremes, the truth/the right thing must be in the center"

[half stump]

"employee" is too bland of a word duh, gotta come up with something dumber 🙄

[pastel dove]

The more I read of her tweets the more I feel she needs to log out and go sit by a duck pond for a bit. Her points have gone from going public to what doe she want to happen

[vapid smelt]

ltt fans* are nose pickers not fart smellers

[real linden]

It was not posted on YT, but they responded to the verge when they asked about it here: https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/16/23834190/linus-tech-tips-gamersnexus-madison-reeves-controversy

[full fossil]

I do both

[proper flame]

sure thats not a fan?

[frail wasp]

It's just bad business trying to remain in Vancouver.

[harsh quartz]

as opposed to most companies where people make minimum wage in cities like memphis, NYC, Chicago? what makes LTT so different than any other company in these areas?

[hallow hare]

oh christ people like you are fucking impossible. dude just assuming that everyone is downvoting because of the controversy going on is dumb lmfao

[normal cargo]

We criticise them too ?

[blazing cosmos]

They aren't meeting the bottomline income for that city, at least for comfortable living.

[storm wraith]

THE COMPANY needs to treat it that way yes, and do a proper investgation

[quaint venture]

Anyone ever ridden the Honda CBR500R before?

[hallow hare]

That wasn't what was brought into question, it was the specific act of downvoting that you brought up

[young valley]

How about we be positive, prop LMG up and practively support their change?

[digital haven]

Which is exactly what is happening now, although it should have happened sooner when Madison brought it to their attention

[amber cradle]

No but I've seen someone put a cb600rr and 1100rr motors in a geo metro.

[tall sonnet]

"guilty until proven innocent" in the sense that the alternative is, if you are assuming innocence, there would be no investigation

you have to assume the possibility of guilt in order to have any sort of investigation, you can't investigate something from the perspective of trying to find proof that it didn't happen, it's not possible to prove a negative. you have to try to find things that prove it did happen, aka, you have to assume that you are guilty and you have to try to find evidences that supports your guilt. only in the end if you cant find anything that proves your guilt can you assume you are innocent

[harsh quartz]

there arent thousands of people yelling at them on social media and scrutinizing the ceo of, idk, mcdonalds for example, where most people at the company make minimum wage and have mediocre(at best) working conditions

[alpine hatch]

Got to see change first

[dreamy rose]

they are already doing so. whats not there to Statisfy you?

[storm wraith]

but LTT is le funny youtube channel and Linus memes about communism. They where supposed to be different!

[blazing cosmos]

No unions. Most likely no insurance. I've heard them be referred to as "contractors" (in prior videos) so I don't even think it's protected the same way as a full time employment

[rare trench]

"trust me bro" not going to work anymore

[rocky knot]

I disagree. They posted a very professional "were looking into it" update. Im okay with this. No emotion, just fact.

[cerulean canopy]

corpos being corpos

[hallow hare]

Me moving the goal post? Bro you're the one who singled out downvoting then randomly brought in comments lmfao

[normal cargo]

There aren't many shouting at lmg cos they don't pay a comfortable wage. But yea, min wage companies are getting a fair amount of criticism from various sectors of the public in any case

[young valley]

Personally.. I loved trust me bro.. I have a trust me bro shirt

[harsh quartz]

like linus says, companies are NOT your friends no matter how much you think they are, they have stated this MULTIPLE times on wan show, not their fault people didnt believe it

[full fossil]

Quick reminder that jumping to conclusions when SA is possibly at play is not always the right move. Just 2 months ago someone I know was involved in SA controversy but I didn't immediately take his side. What I did is: I took time to investigate what really happened and based off of my and others' findings we were able to come to the conclusion that the accuser was lying. For the record, I'm not saying Madison is lying, I'm trying to say that waiting before pointing fingers at anybody at all is a valid option.

[storm wraith]

Yes but in general and to what the other guy posted. Not just the LTT incident

[hollow scroll]

Linus saying his usual reply

[half stump]

ya wanted him to say something for everyone else to pick apart like scientists and get more angry over? Everyone wants a more detailed response, but when you get that, yall pick it apart and all that comes out of it is more outrage, not conversation or anything useful, especially when the majority of people following this are full on pitchforks.

[digital haven]

No word of a lie I bought a screwdriver today incase shit went south and they didn’t order anymore 😂

[hallow hare]

I still don't see what downvoting has to do with any of this. Are people not allowed to not like something anymore?

[vapid smelt]

smh supporting ltt during this time

[blazing cosmos]

You could have gotten the Automotive mega pro

[alpine hatch]

He sold trust me bro in an auction

[young valley]

Im getting a Floatplane subscription tonight 🤣

[dreamy rose]

so you are saying that we need to hatebomb Linus because you believe in the slightest allegation?

[harsh quartz]

"i cant believe that people used a public polling system to show their opinions"

[amber patio]

I think LTT should do a revamp series and redo old videos that they can and mark the old ones as Incorrect.

[hollow scroll]

No, he shouldn't have said anything, his replys are too emotional as he said in the video

[slate tulip]

I have a job, and I argue with people on discord

[hallow hare]

that's exactly what i'm saying

[storm wraith]

Not at all

[nimble sable]

No apology to Steve for attacking his journalistic integrity, Getting defensive over reddit comments, we don't need examples we get it hurts, barely contain himself from going on a rant. IMO it was a weak apology

[young valley]

Steve has no integrity

[spring ibex]

I just hope everyone comes out on top after everything settles down i dont like conflict between people. steve made a good video and was right to criticize linus yes it incites change but people blowing all of this out of proportion and the thing with the cooler was messed up should have been handled better and the other allegations need to be proven first before start getting upset so i just hope everything ends with people happy and no out of a job and we still get fun videos

[tidal dawn]

Lol but not saying anything gets him painted a villain for not addressing it

[cloud flint]

Are we talking about the "What do we do now?" video?
Linus' apology did not feel sincere at all. The first thing he does is defend himself. AGAIN.

[storm wraith]

Based, me too. Especially drama like this is a drug to me.

[full fossil]

RAHH!!!! 🦅🦅🦅

[normal cargo]

It's basically what he should've done in the first place, I can let it go. He can sort out any beef he has with Steve behind closed doors now but atleast he listened to his criticisms the 2nd time around

[harsh quartz]

if the entire public is attacking you, would you not defend yourself first and foremost?

[long agate]

Am I missing something or did Linus say in the leaked audio they already had/have a 3rd party HR option?

[alpine hatch]

The first week back should be only RETRO TIME!

[patent violet]

I wouldn't do stupid shit that would get the public to attack me

[half stump]

then with that, you have the other side who's angry that there's no communication going on. In these scenarios, there is no winning, it's just entirely positioning. Any little thing you say, or don't say will cause outrage somehow as we've seen. It's the classic "I like pancakes." somehow leads to "So you hate waffles?" thing.

[hallow hare]

Man, Steve really fucked up that video. I'm glad we can move past that and see that Linus and the rest of LMG did nothing wrong because of the quality of Steve's video!

[nimble sable]

tattle taleeee

[steep viper]

I would but... not in that tonedeaf way

[storm wraith]

True I heard he is doing all this because he is jealous of Linus subscriber numbers, also he had a crush on Yvonne way back when and he never really got over her, so Steve is still pining over her... its just sad.

[slate tulip]

right? Drama is interesting when you aren't involved lol

[harsh quartz]

im not saying linus is right in this but you cant expect him to act like a PR department head, hes a human being and gets annoyed when he gets called out, so does literally everyone, "oh look at me i woulkd NEVER do anything to hurt ANYONE and get called out" your not perfect my guy

[dreamy rose]

that's public knowledge and he even said it in the FP response

[wraith crypt]

What about doubling down on said stupid shit afterwards? Asking for a …. friend.

[young valley]

Yeah I dont know about the Yvonne stuff.. but I gurantee you hes salty over his AMD tour video being a dud compared to his expectations that he unrealistically set

[long agate]

So all these people who have been screeching that they should have involved a 3rd party HR company... lol

[cloud flint]

Absolutely not. I fucked up. There is no "defending myself" if my company told another they'd send their prototype back, then 2 months later email saying "oopsie we sold it". There's no "defending myself" if I can click on nearly any video and find errors in it.
I suck it up and accept that I fucked up and apologize

[steep viper]

Given his position, I'd say it's totally fair to expect better of him.

[patent violet]

The accusations were criminal essentially. SH/SA... Perfect or not This is unacceptable in the workplace. Apology or not You ain't getting a pass if you committed such activities

[slate tulip]

obviously should have been an Intel tour ;)

[wooden musk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/11dltrr/unreleased_meeting_december_9_2021/ If you guys didn't already know that leaked audio is not from today but almost 2 years ago.

[dreamy rose]

were Uninformed and thus everything they have said about that has been Invalidted.

[vapid smelt]

hook steve up and bring him along to your work

[harsh quartz]

these were not the accusations at the time my guy, and thats for the HR department to figure out, not for a bunch of random people on the internet

[hallow hare]

This is an incredibly inane and dumb statement. The validity of people saying they don't like the mic review solely through downvoting somehow being irrelevant because of the controversy is just such a dumb thing to say. That's the exact same as saying "you're not allowed to not like something that someone has done because of what they're going through at the moment!" It's just flatout stupid.

[young valley]

Nah.. Intel is wack

But so is Steve, so maybe that WOULD have worked.. birds of a feather

[polar fern]

anyways, time for some rockets

[patent violet]

It's a universal understanding that it's not accepted in the workplace It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out

[cerulean canopy]

tsmc tour would be cooler

[steep viper]

Not just that but how HR is structured... It has a riot games sort of feel to it. If you complain you're just a buzz kill.

It has toxic dudebro fratboy mentality written all over it.

[hollow scroll]

The ceo and cfo should answer now as it's a serious business matter

[slate tulip]

I assume that "wack" is a good thing, knowing what I know about how awesome Intel and their engineers are ;)

[cloud flint]

Can't believe people are hating on Steve for DOING THE RIGHT THING

[storm wraith]

"Just tell me, the owner, or my wife!" 😂

[dreamy rose]

fuck intel they canceled tech upgrade and had a cringe rebrand

[deep scaffold]

Is it true Linus is going on the FBI watchlist for his recent actions?

[harsh quartz]

yeah, no shit, but is it confirmed? cause we had someone at my last job that would claim SA over every little thing that she got pissed about, accused 3 different people that she didnt like over it cause she knew it was a tool she could use

[young valley]

I wish there was a clown emoji counter. So I could top the leaderboard

[rocky oxide]

Several people are typing....

[fast elm]

he atak my team, ooga booga

[wraith crypt]

Here, let me add another 🤣

[full fossil]

It's gonna stay that way for a good while lmao

[hollow scroll]

Ya what

[full fossil]

i went to bed 8 hours ago and its still going on

[patent violet]

No but it comes off as highly organic and it's pretty easy to believe because that's exactly how it typically goes down. Does not contain elements that seem fabricated or chronological issues that you would find in fabricated arguments.

[queen crag]

All I need to do is say clown me and I get some

point proven

[slate tulip]

Haha, my work is pretty boring. I'm typing at a linux console and arguing on discord all day 😆

[radiant roost]

it's been that way since yesterday

[storm wraith]

I heard it on CNN too!!

[blazing cosmos]

https://wompampsupport.azureedge.net/fetchimage?siteId=7575&v=2&jpgQuality=100&width=700&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F001%2F564%2F604%2F4ac.jpg

[knotty ivy]

Philly D has now covering this scandal

[harsh quartz]

but is it confirmed? unless your stating guilty until proven innocent, which in my country isnt the case.

[normal cargo]

They got a live feed of his car pulling upto the court house, there's flags outside, were hoping for a Linus speech

[full fossil]

The fucking what now😭

[solid cedar]

clown me = clowns??? really :o

[deep scaffold]

He was grabbing his employees cheeks inappropriately which is a felony

[queen crag]

Yes, cause my name is blue

[hollow scroll]

https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1691944990631707102?t=i4V9J77gQTXFs20C8pm_Ig&s=19

[wind umbra]

Linus is stepping down from his role of less than two months as chief vision officer, instead creating a position he refers to as the "Big Boss"

[slate tulip]

rofl, thank you :)

[cloud flint]

WHAT

[storm wraith]

Face cheeks or butt cheeks? 👀

[hallow hare]

I disagree entirely with your attitude, and the way you've portrayed me.

[patent violet]

Nope it isn't confirmed but it's more believable that is the truth than some lashing out by an ex-employee especially considering she lost her visa to the United States for education and work and basically was trapped. This kind of behavior is on the FBI human trafficking signs handbook. VISA Trapping. WORD FOR WORD too

[unkempt parrot]

more deflection BS dont fall for it.

[tulip frost]

This is the most insane discord ive ever been in

[steep viper]

yeeaaah, and madison had every right to expect retaliation. workplace retaliation isn't just a thing women have to work with. i've had to deal with it. and especially in tech, it can get spicy.

[solid cedar]

Ahhh, so blue = clown - gotcha

[young valley]

I heard from Salty Steve that he was already taken in by the NSA this morning shortly after the video was posted... Sounds like treason charges

[queen crag]

🤡

[full fossil]

at the very least this sounds more well written than the clown show that was anytime linus opened his mouth

[wooden musk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH6zCNR0SZ4

[deep scaffold]

Both according to recent statements

[full fossil]

Looks like Terren has taken the reigns, all media published from them since linus’ pissbaby rant on the forum have been corporate damage control

[long agate]

Does anyone recall the episode where Linus talked about employees at LTT having to sign waivers about being in non standard work environments due to the nature of their work?

[harsh quartz]

again, not our place to decide his fate, not like it matters anyways, were not a judge or jury and were damn sure not executioner

[normal cargo]

Oh that makes it ok

[hallow hare]

I don't live or exist to fulfill the expectations of one individual other than myself. You think I have something to do with Steve, I don't give a fuck if Steve would agree with me or not.

[patent violet]

We are his viewers and he expects us to judge his camera image. He signed those terms and conditions

[past egret]

i like how everyone is arguing about something they have no control over its great

[polar fern]

hmm maybe i should launc hthe core with no pods

[full fossil]

<@&750150305383186585>

[slate tulip]

link?

[quaint venture]

Can’t wait for the name change LTT—>TTT

[hasty elk]

I got a question about 7.1 surround sound

[frigid mountain]

i don’t think the allegations were against linus though, but about team members.

[alpine hatch]

You can try on me

[storm wraith]

makes what okay?

[harsh quartz]

in most cases yes but once it becomes a legal issue i see it something that isnt even close to being in our hands. Over basic moral issues yes keep him in line, but this isnt a basic moral issue

[rocky oxide]

Mine.

[full fossil]

try #audio-tech, you wont get any good answers here

[full fossil]

Yooo my local basketball club got some competition now🔥

[queen crag]

there are other receivers

[ebon sentinel]

Correct

[little bane]

I hope they don't go with TTT... besides the gmod game might incur legal issues with TyT on branding

[young valley]

Correct.. the insinuations were...pointing at another LMG manager I wont name

[polar fern]

man this really is a dumpster fire with all the garbage hot takes ❤️

[dreamy rose]

while i don't care for this statement i do want to say that Emily would be the nicest to hug. not only is she universally loved she also has a lot to hug

[supple arch]

(cough james)

[hallow hare]

What about what I said had anything to do with Steve? Steve is completely irrelevant here.

[patent violet]

It's not legal. It's a moral issue. There has been no legal proceedings or prosecution on any of this. Statement was made and that's it

[slate tulip]

T³? I like

[steep viper]

i would say something just for the "let's see how THEY feel about it"... but... then I'd be the baddie

[empty pollen]

Wonder how the wan show is going to play out this week.

[proper flame]

ffs youre back

[harsh quartz]

once SA is involed it is a legal issue, tf you mean it isnt?

[full fossil]

take 2/t2 won't be happy

[crimson path]

question, how many blood pressure pills will kill me lol

[quaint venture]

T3*1

[dreamy rose]

Take Two Interactive can go get fucked,

[rare trench]

LMG mains source of income is merch and us. they lost that trust now rip

[tawdry turret]

weren't you crying to mods all day yesterday when called out for your hot takes and now you're flaming everyone?

[patent violet]

No charges were filed and no complaints were actually made no report was actually made. No police have shown up. All that was made was statements online. This has no legal bearing right now because nothing is being done on a criminal or civil level

[slate tulip]

Idk what that is

[wet oak]

i advise listening to your doctor and not taking medicine willy nilly based on the answers of people on the internet

[full fossil]

How many times have you talked to people close to you about these thoughts?

[proper flame]

hopefully theyve got a rainy day fund

[hollow scroll]

Definitely not written by him

[crimson path]

🤑 Alot, and nobody sees to give a fuck, so haha

[vapid smelt]

like a warehouse full of hardware

[full fossil]

big video game holding company
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take-Two_Interactive

[deep scaffold]

Is it true LMG is run by misogynistic men

[steep viper]

she didn't bring it up because she was afraid of retaliation. which is a fair fear to have.

[harsh quartz]

just cause police arent involved doesnt make it not a legal issue. There is an investigation underway by the HR and a third party, which means that workers rights rules were possibly broken. Once its taken to that level it is a legal issue, whether or not the cops are called

[patent violet]

Exactly

[summer folio]

Did he. Did he start treating her better?

[full fossil]

You need better homies fr. It won't be me but you gotta find you a new squad to roll with.

[tulip knoll]

Can someone explain the new LTT video a little? did something bad happen? or is it just addressing how unprofessional Linus has been in some videos? (I'm aware of the Madison situation, but if I'm correct in saying the actual video is about something else)

[wind umbra]

Medication, taken as prescribed and for its intended use, has a 100% mortality rate within a range of 1-150 years

[hollow scroll]

No

[tawdry turret]

they most likely do, yvonne mentioned that they're not working for survival anymore like when they were a smaller startup

[polar fern]

@tawdry turret what "hot takes"? i have stated one thing and one thing only: steve did a bad with how he handled things. I am also far from the only one who sees things this way. ❤️

[full fossil]

Fuck this did not age well 😭😭😭

[maiden nest]

boy i got horrible news for you

[deep scaffold]

Then why does Linus disrespect women

[normal cargo]

This is so common when people have been in a situation of abuse, keep that in mind

[vapid smelt]

did you not hear about the Madison stuff?

[patent violet]

Yes it is. I'm arguing that point for the sake of the argument
Just because the company has started legal proceedings does not mean it's suddenly no longer a moral issue

[nova needle]

Hi Aldonist

[quaint venture]

Don’t die homie

[tawdry turret]

you're just a lot farther from the number of people who disagree with you, love

[cloud flint]

https://www.dexerto.com/tech/ex-linus-tech-tips-employee-alleges-mistreatment-and-poor-conditions-2251613/
Madison recap

[polar fern]

@tulip knoll The ltt response video is addressing things that GN pointed out. The allegations are a totally separate issue.

[full fossil]

bro LTT's new vid got me emotional because tbh i did not even know this happend

[plush rivet]

bruh can we wait for actual evidence instead of jumping to conclusions

[hollow scroll]

How does he, it was prob a video editor or something who said the stuff or whoever

[steep viper]

Yeah, vid was... stupidly tonedeaf. Cracking jokes in an apology video and monetizing it.

[sharp cradle]

y'all see ltts response to the allegations on float plane? much better than the yt video i think

[harsh quartz]

na they wanna be judge jury and executioner

[radiant roost]

why would he respond exclusively on fp tho

[tulip knoll]

Ah so I should look into Gamers nexus if I want more information. I'm really not up to date on this rn lol so this is all new to me

[patent violet]

LMG is opting to handle it internally but that doesn't mean it suddenly a legal issue because Madison is not involved anymore It was simply a statement that was made. A company does not instantly get a shield from any backlash or get to play the moral high ground because they said we are going to handle this in some legal manner

[quaint venture]

Yeah, I bet Linus wasn’t involved in this one lmfao

[deep scaffold]

He was caught on camera trying to touch people's bottoms

[polar fern]

@tawdry turret oh no, how will i live with your disaprooval.

[hollow scroll]

Where you got that from

[sharp cradle]

idk, it might end up on twitter or yt or the forum too

[summer folio]

[radiant roost]

ty for sharing

[proper flame]

no shot billet said they could keep it

[harsh quartz]

bruh, its an investigation over whether or not LAWS were broken, that makes it a LEGAL matter because its regarding the LAW. im not saying they get a shield but theres jack shit yall can do about it by talking about it. what are yall gonna say anyways? "SA is bad" yeah no shit, teh law already says that

[dreamy rose]

what in the hot crispy Kentucky fried FUCK.

[polar fern]

@deep scaffold lets not lie

[half summit]

Linus Feet Tips

[patent violet]

No it's an investigation whether or not company policy was broken
No framework of justice is being involved on an official scale

[daring thistle]

It's also in the verge and under Phillip Defrancos video

[quaint venture]

[teal rose]

Nah, if SH is involved it definitely becomes a legal issue

[steep viper]

Ah yes, corpo speak. AKA "we got caught with out pants down and want to appear professional"

[sharp cradle]

no problem, i wonder if they'll share what 3rd party, but otherwise i think they are taking corrective measures

[dreamy rose]

he posted it to twitter too.

[patent violet]

But he's saying it's no longer a moral issue either and we can't judge it as a moral issue because the second it moves on to a legal issue it's no longer allowed to be judged for its morality. That's his original argument.

[half stump]

Apparently they turned off monetization for the video for those that were complaining about that.

[harsh quartz]

SA is a bigger issue than company policy, it is a law my dude

[clear orchid]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15t1mzn/mandatory_meeting_the_after_madisons_departure/

[deep scaffold]

I have access to LMG security cameras and can confirm he was camping in the parking garage waiting for his victims

[teal rose]

Oh then yeah that's stupid

[short escarp]

After listening to that leak of the meeting, I really didn't hear anything wrong with it

[steep viper]

but the fact they want to profit from even THIS is just... unbelievably scummy

[maiden nest]

if you ever worked a job in your life you had to sign a contract. those contracts are required by the government because those contracts (in part) say you won’t break laws. when you break laws, the federal government (police) get involved because it’s the law. this is common sense people

[sharp cradle]

better than ignoring it🤷‍♂️

[daring thistle]

What profit my dude

[ebon sentinel]

All you need to hear from that leaked meet is at 3:50

[patent violet]

Ok but they are doing an internal investigation of Policy as stated...

[heavy steppe]

the apology video doesnt feel like the typical apology video... it feels like corporate bullshit

[pearl stone]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/471955232105037824/950235535228690462/caption-3-1-1-1.gif

[tribal brook]

is this chat still on fire?

[rancid dawn]

Better than ignoring it

[tawdry turret]

corpo speak isn't objectively bad if they're in fact willing to make changes for the better, but the jury's still out so we'll see how things are handled going into the future

[proper flame]

the monetization mightve been accidental. maybe it was on my default

[quaint venture]

Omg @pearl stone is back, Hi

[harsh quartz]

okay, then it seems to be resolved and its no longer a moral issue, its a policy issue, since you wanna argue over semantics

[supple pawn]

Ugh wheres the tech tips?

[teal rose]

Since I'm not at liberty to share any details about what occurred, uh, all I can do is ask that you trust me and Yvonne

The meeting was called because something happened. It's not just a regular meeting. The meeting also happened in December based on the holiday comment, and Madison quit in December.

This is just additional support for her accusations.

[ebon sentinel]

Which tech tips?

[mild current]

At the moment it's a discord issue

[radiant roost]

auctioned away

[patent violet]

Okay they can say whatever they want but no it's actually a moral issue. They are investigating it as a policy issue. There is no legal framework involved with authorities that enforce justice.

[pearl stone]

who are you?

[maiden nest]

here’s a tech tip; don’t be a dick (not directed at you)

[rancid dawn]

HR is there for the company. Not the employee. And if they are hiring an outside person…well they are being paid by the company so it’s a bit redundant.

[heavy steppe]

lets face it, LTT is crumbling

[halcyon dagger]

sold, not auctioned

[steep viper]

it just rings very hollow given the events lately.
also I'm apparently getting minute-long slowmode so... 🤷‍♂️

[quaint venture]

Gone, Reduced to Atoms

[nova needle]

Auctioned off*

[harsh quartz]

its actually not a moral issue its a policy issue since thats what its being investigated under. you dont fire people on morals, you fire people on policy, otherwise linus probably wouldve been fired a long time ago

[ebon sentinel]

They have been for quite some time. This is accelerant in a can

[supple pawn]

I managed to break both RGB headers on my Red Devil 7900 xtx LE

[patent violet]

It is immoral to harass someone. Period wtf
Lol

[short escarp]

It's not evidence that what she said happened actually happened.

It's only evidence that she reported something.
All this is evidence of is that she complained of something.

[tawdry turret]

yeah it's unfortunate that corpo speak has a bad rep because of all the corporations out there who offer empty words and then do nothing, but this is LTT's first time so i'll give them the benefit of the doubt and resub when they actually show some results

[pearl stone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1079566549951709364/1093245718573097030/AutoMemes.gif

[polar fern]

"linus is a gas molecule" as in he floats around from thing to thing erratically - i am glad he hired an adult ot run the show while he does his goofy stuff

[normal cargo]

It can be both ?

[maiden nest]

wait is there a leaked meeting recording that got out? i’m out the loop rn

[deep scaffold]

Let's face it - LTT was going to shit ever since he sold out to framework

[supple pawn]

To be fair, the stupid RGB headers on the Red Devil are garbage

[patent violet]

But no we can't consider the morality if the legality is brought up suddenly..... According to him

[teal rose]

This is an extremely long con for someone to pull if they just made up bullshit that is somehow consistent after almost 2 years

[tribal brook]

good work guys and girls hope to see the meltdown carry on till tomorrow 🙂

[clear orchid]

sounds real

[ebon sentinel]

Its everywhere, and yes it is

[opal cairn]

He... didn't sell out to Framework? He bought some of Framework.

[tiny umbra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH6zCNR0SZ4

[dreamy rose]

"Don't trust a girl with pronouns in their bio, its a HR disaster waiting to happen" Bro touch grass, you go straight to one of her clips to leave the most disgusting and foul Bricks of shit you possibly could. Fuck mrwhopee. touch grass dickhead.

[short escarp]

You'd be surprised how long people will keep something like this up.

She could still be mad at Linus for whatever reason and just trying to hurt the company

[supple pawn]

Whys your avatar pic not have a fez?

[slate tulip]

Real advice for anyone else who might find themselves in.... unpleasant situations at work. Particularly when you are not getting results from reporting it internally:
make a paper trail. If you talk to someone in person, follow up with an email.

"Hi John Doe,

Thank you for speaking to me today about X issue. Just to recap, you said you are looking into the allegations I made about Y and will take them very seriously. I appreciate the work you do and taking this matter seriously,

Jane"

This creates evidence that the discussion happened, and forces them to reply in writing if any information is incorrect. Later down the road, you have proof that you brought up issues and nothing happened

[patent violet]

Uh..... That's a stretch.... And yeah no not like this. Doesn't happen

[teal rose]

You'd be surprised at how many people end up contradicting themselves

[nova needle]

<@&750150305383186585> language

[ebon sentinel]

If you knew how much shit she's catching you'd know nobody would "make it up"

[tiny umbra]

cause my wife river destroyed it

[dreamy rose]

what are you? 5?

[short escarp]

From the looks at this chat, looks like she's really not catching none at all

Everyone has been on her side and just believing her

[normal cargo]

Yea this is the part I'm not following. If you do something legally wrong the you might've done something morally wrong. If you commit murder, the morality of your actions don't suddenly disappear. Likewise, you can do something morally wrong and it being entirely legal. I don't get the train of thought

[polar fern]

@tiny umbra your wife is a river?

[fierce moth]

If you can't handle that I'd suggest never visiting Australia

[full fossil]

I don’t like how lmg is rushing videos but on that case And let’s rush to our sponsor, build redux. Build your overpriced gaming pc at build redux! Pick between rich, filthy rich, and royal family. Then pick what games you play and let it build a list for you when you could ask someone an a server like this one to help you build one yourself! Make sure you go check them out at the end of this video.

[teal rose]

Lol there were absolute clowns with blue names in here a few hours ago saying point blank she was faking everything

[ebon sentinel]

Then maybe you should look at more than just one (this) spot.

[supple pawn]

Or watching a George Carlin comedy special

[harsh quartz]

bruh what im saying is it doesnt matter if yall think its wrong, what will decide it is the investigation, which is not based on moral grounds, you cant fire someone on that, if there is action it will be based on policy grounds

[patent violet]

By initiating the legal procedures it basically means that they have done the right thing and are now absolved of all sin according to the logic

[pearl stone]

fucking sad

[dreamy rose]

what does it matter if their names are blue? are you calling every blue name a shill?

[deep scaffold]

Yes he did. He still publishes laptop reviews despite personally investing in a competitor within the same space .

[tiny umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/river-song-spoiler-doctor-who-matt-smith-gif-11515428

[harsh quartz]

during which they say both the positives and negatives of the laptops and disclose the investment. what else should they do?

[teal rose]

No, but they stood out to me. I don't remember everyone's names, I just remember a lot of them were blue

[supple pawn]

Spoilers...

[nova needle]

No reason not to stay civil

[normal cargo]

Yea but even if LMG is cleared in the investigation that doesn't mean they ain't morally bankrupt ?. It just means that no policies were broken?

[polar fern]

@tiny umbra clever

[heavy steppe]

the sponsor jokes throughout the video just prove they arent taking this super seriously

[pearl stone]

i just wanted to curse bc u cant handle it

[quaint venture]

Fuck

[deep scaffold]

Exit the laptop review space entirely. It's unheard of and impossible that a tech reviewer who has a personal stake within a company can remain unbiased in that space.

[fierce moth]

Fuck you 🇦🇺

[harsh quartz]

then thats a whole different issue over whether or not they have bad policies and if those policies are in line with the local laws

[ebon sentinel]

That and the shameless lttstore/screwdriver plug

[supple arch]

Jarrods tech already does the de facto laptop reviews lmg doesnt need to be in the space

[full fossil]

“Someone had to say it” - 🤡🤡🤡

[nova needle]

Mite

[proper flame]

who was the dude 3d printing a porsche 911? looking good

[polar fern]

@heavy steppe totally disagree.

[supple pawn]

Watch the fucking language! Damn uncultured swines in here today, shit.

[empty pollen]

Linus ball drop tips.

[normal cargo]

So it still can be a moral issue. This is without going into issues such as being over worked, low paid or what not n all. You can still be doing things some would consider to be morally wrong whilst being cleared in an investigation with policies that aligned with the law and other businesses

[harsh quartz]

"Wont someone think of the children"

[tawdry turret]

i guess he just "read the room wrong"

[alpine hatch]

I wish I could have screamed “no, no they don’t idiots” at them.

[gray pollen]

If you're in public chat, you're here to fight because you like arguing and nothing said here is in good faith

[pearl stone]

Get some merch over at https://store.gamersnexus.net !

Cool stuff.

[past egret]

they were trying to keep things light, but its a bit tasteless

[nova needle]

Im here to lose brain cells tbh

[ebon sentinel]

So you're here to fight is what you're saying

[digital haven]

Wait what was the background on that video? The one recently posted to Reddit

[fierce moth]

I don't get merch

[slate tulip]

@pearl stone oooh, electrical engineering it neat :) I had to learn a little to get my amateur radio license.

[polar fern]

-total conjecture about an ongoing issue that i have no privy to- is what i think! 😉

[empty pollen]

Oh they would be mad if they could read.

[short escarp]

Poop

[tiny umbra]

nah fuck those clowns

[maiden nest]

internal HR meeting after madison left

[quaint venture]

No 200+ pounds backpack, not worth

[harsh quartz]

then it becomes the responsibility of other people in the space and the audience to voice their opinions to keep them in line, but voicing them BEFORE THE INVESTIGATION does nothing but cause a lot of noise

[deep scaffold]

Exactly. His laptop reviews are utter shit anyways - every shortcircuit laptop simple "overview" is riddled with basic errors and are useless

[grim ether]

Yikes imagine plugging merch during an apology video 💀
Might as well have done a tiktok dance too

[supple pawn]

Hey, not all of us are here to fight. Some of us just like poking people with a stick while watching them fight each other.

[steep viper]

This is why I just chill in JayzTwoCents vids lol
edit: woops. sorry for the reply. meant to clear that

[polar fern]

some of yall could do with some sharpening of social interaction skills, thats all imma say ❤️

[slate tulip]

it's discord - bold of you to assume there's any to sharpen

[ebon sentinel]

Lol

[quaint venture]

What’s that?

[haughty fog]

The Madison allegations are disturbing.

[fierce moth]

The grass is sharper

[empty pollen]

i really wish that the trend of swapping names and thumbnails out would end. Also name the video something proper, not OMG THIS THING HAPPENED!?

[harsh quartz]

yeah, thats why its called a blade

[heavy steppe]

lol okay.

[alpine hatch]

I don’t wanna

[supple pawn]

Are you offering help in the endeavor?

[normal cargo]

Not really, were allowed to have opinions in the matter, discuss the information we have. We can still hold LMG (or anyone) to account over allegations. This is how it works, public scrutiny.

[slate tulip]

kitty?!

[polar fern]

@supple pawn pffft i am not qualified, just an observer 😄

[ebon sentinel]

Thats done it, rename the channel to SITT, Social Interaction Talking Tips

[green kernel]

whole situation is just funny in my opinion
some genuine mistakes , yeah i guess , they mess up sometimes
and employee situation sounds like a nice way to gain their own recognition.. honestly
but too early to tell

[harsh quartz]

aight, so how are you holding them accountable when theres already an investigation ongoing? what are these arguments actually contributing?

[heavy steppe]

your observing is shit

[steep viper]

yeeaaaah... seen a few girls run away from this server is all I'm gonna say

[pearl stone]

im not a girl, my profile picture is my best friend

[polar fern]

Linus Fact Checks

[proper flame]

this clown has blocked half the people in this server i think

[slate tulip]

your best friend isn't that cute kitty?!

[winter juniper]

Agreed, it's funny that when there's a controversy it shows just how toxic some of the community can be, I think that there's even some things I regret saying about this whole thing.

[normal cargo]

Would there be an investigation if there wasn't any public scrutiny now ?, We're discussing the topics the investigation needs to address ?, Who's to say where the investigation will go if we stop scrutinising the company ?. This isn't just an LMG thing, this is how people, companies or whatnot are held to account when enough people care

[green kernel]

huge communities are always toxic.

[uncut gyro]

Well never thought I would live to the day LTT is the headline of the PDS (Phil DeFranco) 😳

[ocean reef]

Yeah they’ve addressed it

[ebon sentinel]

I'm off to make some sandwiches, nobody come up with something actually ontopic to say in the meanwhile please

[tiny umbra]

i won't trust anyone who uses pronouns either you believe who you are and don't use them or you don't and use them but either way they are pointless and point to bad choices

[tawdry turret]

good way to turn it into an echo chamber i guess

[polar fern]

we must develop processes to improve social interaction skills on the linus tip discord

[heavy steppe]

"no no you see he didnt SELL it he auctioned it for charity! linus is in the right, hes never done anything wrong!" 🤡🤓

[supple pawn]

Goddammit, I have a big zit growing under my beard and its making my teeth itch.

[slate tulip]

oh you sweet summer child

[pearl stone]

um, gross

[young valley]

So I watched that video of the HR speach Linus gave, Idk.. nothing wrong there, sounds identical to every company HR speach Ive ever heard

[harsh quartz]

so this server was responsible for the GN video? or the followups? or madison coming out and the investigation that followed? the arguments in this server contributed to ANY of those steps?

[empty pollen]

"I" is a pronoun.

[indigo plume]

Is it normal to have lower back pain with embody at start using chair

[winter juniper]

Yes they are unfortunately

[haughty fog]

Addressing with the response is not the same as the disturbing allegations. If they are deemed to be true, then that is truly disturbing and idk how successful LMG will be in the future. This probably would even hurt future sponsorships with any vendors.

[maiden nest]

you realize everyone has pronouns, right?

[green kernel]

you sound like only sane person here

[rancid dawn]

Of course the Jordan Peterson fan makes an inappropriate joke during the hr meeting

[heavy steppe]

hey i agree

[full fossil]

yeah, he, him, they, them, she, her

[normal cargo]

The public backlash certainly did, and we've witnessed atleast a portion of that here

[ocean stone]

you just pissed off a whole lotta people my guy

[tulip frost]

I really appreciate the great time I have spent in this server today - the passionate debates, warm camaraderie, and kumbaya! :)

[gray pollen]

So you like arguing. Liking when someone else argues is still liking arguing.

[polar fern]

every single organization deals with inappropriate behavior with its employees/contractors etc. its very pervasive and common, unfortunately

[quaint venture]

Was English class difficult at times?

[supple pawn]

You don't make much sense

[pearl stone]

he is not, he subsribed to floatplane today and he also said this (we thought he was trolling):

Just watched the new LTT video and I have to say that I'm happy with how they're going to change and how they're handling this right now, the video couldn't have been better and actually made me respect LMG even more than before, to know were gonna have quality over quantity in the future is gonna be weird at first but It's sure gonna be much better than before, I'm considering of subscribing to the floatplane channel.

[lavish elm]

guys, opinions on, Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg having their boxing fight

[harsh quartz]

mhmm

[tawdry turret]

unfortunately it doesn't excuse any organization from it either

[ocean stone]

🍿

[quaint venture]

Holy shit that wasn’t a troll, wtf lol

[midnight crane]

Never happening.

[tiny umbra]

was clown school hard ? seems you passed

[supple pawn]

Its never going to happen, it was a publicity stunt.

[empty pollen]

MeLon's mom said no.

[tidal dawn]

If it does happen Zuck will kill him, metaphorically of course

[harsh quartz]

robot beats lizard, like that old zathura movie

[pearl stone]

Just watched the new LTT video and I have to say that I'm happy with how they're going to change and how they're handling this right now, the video couldn't have been better and actually made me respect LMG even more than before, to know were gonna have quality over quantity in the future is gonna be weird at first but It's sure gonna be much better than before, I'm considering of subscribing to the floatplane channel.

[vital vortex]

I think King Kong beats Godzilla

[fierce moth]

Isn't zuck a hybrid of lizard and robot?

[green kernel]

and?
with that pressure and scrutiny they WILL have to do something

[patent violet]

Yeah... Collapse

[limber granite]

Also, "me," and "I"

[maiden nest]

oh you really got them good!

[tulip frost]

Yeah, I totally agree! LTT have put in a lot of work in order to improve their channel content. I think that having better quality videos and fewer of them, instead of more low quality videos, is a better approach. Plus, the Floatplane channel looks pretty cool too! I'm sure you'll have an amazing experience if you subscribe.

[quaint venture]

I failed unfortunately, had to hand my red nose in

[midnight crane]

Do yu have a pre-existing head unjury?

[harsh quartz]

bruh king kong is like up to godzillas ankle the fuck? its like you kicking a toddler away

[cloud flint]

I highly recommend everyone to stop feeding off of each other. There are obviously a lot of issues and drama. And it's all leading to a situation where it's extremely difficult to differentiate between what's real and what's not. Draw your own conclusions. Go watch GN's video and you decide, do some research on the actual truths instead of arguing with strangers or believing everything in this chat.

I'm not saying everyone here is feeding you false information, just that as it's still so new, your own conclusions are vastly more valuable than anyone else's.

[supple pawn]

I bought a screwdriver yesterday. Glad to support the cause.

[tiny umbra]

im shocked 🙉

[pearl stone]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-minecraft-minecraft-story-mode-gif-19671889

[ocean stone]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-rogan-surprised-ohh-shocked-scared-gif-26533226

[swift nacelle]

I’m just sitting here feeling terrible for the staff that are online right now. maybe even reading this chat, seeing this community talk so negatively. I don’t want to have an opinion about any of these fiascos until solid evidence and proof of change/no change comes up.

[young valley]

Thats what you want eh?

[winter juniper]

Just a personal experience my man nothing much to it, altough the fact you thought I was trolling says a lot about how you interact on the internet, as for my floatplane subscription, I've been thinking about doing that a while and it's nice to be able to watch exclusive videos and get all the videos earlier, anyway I don't wanna fight with ya'll I fucking hate toxic arguments.

[pulsar rapids]

Yeah it's not. Not implying it ever is. But I've seen SA/SH being passed off as humor, so there is a fine line between what's acceptable and funny, and what's not.

In any case https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1691944990631707102
that should settle it and that is the appropriate response. in fact I think that goes farther than it needs to. they don't have to publish the findings, just implement steps to ensure something like that cannot happen in the future.

[lilac sage]

nah only 2 LTT staff actually frequent this discord.

[quaint venture]

Just watched the new LTT video and I have to say that I'm happy with how they're going to change and how they're handling this right now, the video couldn't have been better and actually made me respect LMG even more than before, to know were gonna have quality over quantity in the future is gonna be weird at first but It's sure gonna be much better than before, I'm considering of subscribing to the floatplane channel.

[vital vortex]

Monkey cool

[sleek depot]

Just watched the new LTT video and I have to say that I'm happy with how they're going to change and how they're handling this right now, the video couldn't have been better and actually made me respect LMG even more than before, to know were gonna have quality over quantity in the future is gonna be weird at first but It's sure gonna be much better than before, I'm considering of subscribing to the floatplane channel.

[harsh quartz]

monke

[solid spindle]

This is the most chimpanzee response I have ever seen. You bring shame to that Dr. Who pfp. You stupid Yakubian ape, every single person on this planet uses pronouns including your transphobic ass. Don’t make me pull out my measuring instruments to study your skull size to prove how stupid you are

[pearl stone]

im being honest my dude, everyone thought u were trolling. go back to when you initially sent that message and i just watched the new LTT video and I have to say that I'm happy with how they're going to change and how they're handling this right now, the video couldn't have been better and actually made me respect LMG even more than before, to know were gonna have quality over quantity in the future is gonna be weird at first but It's sure gonna be much better than before, I'm considering of subscribing to the floatplane channel.

[swift nacelle]

Fair enough. I’m barely on discord nowadays myself. Just a lot of neg in here rn.

[ocean stone]

[tiny umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/864731956855832596.webp?size=48&name=ClownedTrumpStyle&quality=lossless

[patent violet]

Uh.... No it doesn't settle anything.... You don't get a free pass just because you made a statement.. one we don't even know is actually being done

The notion is DISGUSTING

[lilac sage]

Only jack and the nick that isnt nick light (nicholas callanan) really check stuff here

[fierce moth]

Most active it's been lol /j

[hallow harness]

words have no meaning until action has been taken.

[pulsar rapids]

Not giving them a free pass, but it is a step in the right direction. Mistakes happen and what's important is taking care of the future. What would you have them do though?

[ocean stone]

surprised the discord hasn't been locked down, as that's typically what happens with stuff like this

[slate tulip]

Yeah, I don't even watch LTT, I just stay for the drama 😆 well, there's good discussions in here in between the drama too

[tawdry turret]

their commitment to publish findings is a good move to differentiate themselves from the empty corpo speak that the community has seen from so many companies in the tech space, it shows they're committed to reconnect with the community

[young valley]

So.. if I subscribe to Floatplane my name turns blue?

[swift nacelle]

Nick heavy (self imposed nickname -allegedly-) honestly seems pretty cool

[patent violet]

This is not a mistake This was done on purpose.... With predatory intent.. This is not a mistake they chose this and acted on this knowingly that it was wrong. Task failed successfully.

You don't accidentally harass somebody

[haughty fog]

Her allegations go a little bit more than just as mistakes. It is purely a toxic working environment if the allegations are true and stuff that generally should just not happen in any workplace

[calm sequoia]

Phillip DeFranco covered current events on his show today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH6zCNR0SZ4&ab_channel=PhilipDeFranco

[harsh quartz]

that is up for the investigation to decide

[lilac sage]

yeah nick heavy is the one who actually talks here. jake maybe comes in here once every 2 months

[young valley]

Some men just want to watch the world burn... Youre one of those eh?

[pearl stone]

im too lazy to watch that

[solid spindle]

Why am I not surprised you are literally from Ohio 💀

[supple pawn]

Alright, the drama is no longer amusing. Y'all have fun and try not to strangle each other lol

[swift nacelle]

I’m subbed on FP. Where’s my blue name? Do I also have to sub to Twitter blue?

[slate tulip]

well, there's a difference between children running a discord, and a legal entity. The latter needs to make sure that they don't take actions that could imply guilt or culpability

[patent violet]

No it's not You can't accidentally harass somebody That's stupid.... And what investigation We have no idea that an investigation is even actually taking place... You don't just accidentally trip over and stick your penor in someone or accidentally say "NICE T*TS"

[pulsar rapids]

Yes, they are more than just mistakes. But the harsh reality is it does happen a lot in corporate environments and companies put lots of effort into making sure it doesn't turn toxic. LTT has to do the same. They found out the hard way because it became toxic, but what matters is they address it.

[winter juniper]

This isn't twitter or x where everything is satire, this community is definitely strange considering that at some point everyone can be arguing normally and seriously but then suddendly it changes to trolling.

[harsh quartz]

and you dont know that thats what happened. its for the investigation to prove.

[vital vortex]

Guys you do know these are allegations right. Immediately believing it is so dumb to me

[young valley]

From Cleveland, live in Phoenix AZ now... At least Ohio has Cedar Point.. Americas Rollercoast 🤣

[swift nacelle]

Jake got the “cool stache”

[haughty fog]

They need to address it and have a zero tolerance policy going forward

[tiny umbra]

in other news armcord and vencord got AI rsnoise for mics now so razor mic users won't sound like dog shit

[ocean stone]

well yeah, but discord isn't twitter either; letting a bunch of "new joiners" speculate, spread misinformation and gaslight others probably doesn't do any good

[slate tulip]

yeah - saying "calm your tits" is not a mistake. It's either a lie an ex employee made, or an egregious violation of workplace regulations. There's not really an in-between.

[limber granite]

Agreed

[unkempt jay]

almost as many subs as they have left on FP

[oblique canyon]

what are yall's thoughts on the new video

[brazen carbon]

like this segue...to our sponsor 🤠 🤠 🤠

[pearl stone]

https://tenor.com/view/kumala-la-kumala-mrtti-gif-25688572

[tawdry turret]

same goes for immediate dismissal

[tulip frost]

was ass but james is hot

[solid spindle]

What’s the count rn

[harsh quartz]

i say calm your tits to guys all the fuckin time, its just a meme

[haughty fog]

It’s a meme that could be offensive in in a workplace environment

[patent violet]

What investigation?

[unkempt jay]

https://floatplane.wtf/

[oblique canyon]

linus lost 100k subs

[brazen carbon]

who said that

[young valley]

💯💯

[finite yarrow]

Its not a meme on a workplace my boi 💀 Not saying the allegations are true, but damn I hope you don't say it to your coworkers

[solid spindle]

Hmm they are losing 1 floatplane sub per minute. That’s crazy

[harsh quartz]

then thats for the investigation to sort out and the HR department to decide whether it was appropriate or not

[tiny umbra]

thats it haha man people don't care and that proves me

[atomic mortar]

im surprised they havent locked this server yet

[slate tulip]

sh*t you say to your buddies while hanging out is very different than what you say in a professional workplace environment. Commenting on someone's s*xual characteristics is black and white bad

[steep viper]

this sounds like an environment they actually helped cultivate, though. Like Riot Games. where complaining, you're seen as a tattletale/buzzkill. the way you worded it made it sound like it wasn't engrained in "lol dude techbro" culture.

[patent violet]

No it's not it's inappropriate period.... This is Universal... Are you really arguing that sh Can be approved? What the FUCK

[oblique canyon]

they added a really long delay

[brazen carbon]

what did linus do i dont know

[tulip frost]

he basically lizzo'd his whole workplace (look up what happened with lizzo if you dk)

[vital vortex]

Since when was saying calm your tits offensive??????

[solid spindle]

A website tracking subscriber data proves…what?

[dense escarp]

And for the love of all that you hold dear, HR is not your friend. HR is to protect the corporation.

[unkempt jay]

https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline
Posted before: but to all the copium addicts in chat

[atomic vessel]

average person who joined on aug 17th

[harsh quartz]

the majority of the time my coworkers have been my buddies, and you have no idea how the work environment was when it was said. again, its for the HR department and the investigation to figre out

[pearl stone]

if you guys haven't already, make a purchase on https://store.gamersnexus.net!

[patent violet]

Saying it to a female who is complaining about SH.... VERY VERY INAPPROPRIATE. "Oh you are being harassed calm your tits..."

[tiny umbra]

fuck those clowns

[brazen carbon]

wth

[tulip frost]

girl whatever

[ripe patrol]

unless its female on female - always. and even then...

[graceful burrow]

Use the proper link boss
http://lttcorrections.com/

[autumn forge]

We call that poor timing, but I get it.

[vital vortex]

So I can't say it to my guy friends? Okay gotcha. Lol

[steep viper]

or, you know.. just saying it to a woman, full-stop. 🤔 moreso to one suffering SH

[limber granite]

I've known people who will say that to any gender. It's crass. Certainly not professional, but in my experience, it's not necessarily 6-xual.

[brazen carbon]

send the link to the "calm ur_" i havent seen 😮

[vapid smelt]

i already have thier mouse mat glass globe and like 4 shirts

[patent violet]

Uhmmmm that's uh.... No that's not appropriate at all.. @steep viper yes.

[tiny umbra]

it never has been

[atomic vessel]

not in a professional environment, no

this should be obvious lol

[finite yarrow]

No fucking shot they bought that domain for this 💀

[pearl stone]

i just bought a poster, sphere statue and coasters

[polar fern]

parked in orbit, now time to de-orbit the booster

[solid spindle]

I find it interesting it’s all the men saying “Calm your tits” is not offensive when said in response to a woman complaining about SH

[timid meadow]

Steve didnt, no

[graceful burrow]

They didn't, obviously
There's also http://lttauctions.com/

[pulsar rapids]

Yeah agreed, there should be a zero tolerance policy. But the tricky thing is there's a gray area and people do make mistakes. Take the quote that Madison quit over: "I think the reason you try to be funny, is because you lack any other skills."

People say terrible things when they're in a bad mood and don't realize it. Just look at what internet arguments descend into from time to time. You can even find examples right here if you scroll up. I'd say there should be consequences if it keeps happening after getting warned, but one incident like that shouldn't leave a stain on someone's career.

[fluid jacinth]

I didn't what

[harsh quartz]

not every professional environment is suits and ties, especially in tech, a lot of workplaces are relaxed and people say jokes, i know it might be hard to believe. again, its for HR to discern

[patent violet]

The apples of linus' viewer base did not fall far from the tree

[autumn forge]

"In a video posted this morning titled “What do we do now?” Linus Media Group CFO Yvonne Ho announced the entire channel was pausing production for the next week to address the issues raised by the YouTube channel Gamers Nexus about errors in videos and concerning ethical practices. “I agree with the community,” Ho said in the video, “so I’m putting my foot down. Effective immediately all YouTube video production is on pause.”" I like this guy already

[limber granite]

She never said that was reply to a SA complaint. She only said it was said to her at some point during her employment

[brazen carbon]

help

[cerulean bone]

if somebody isn't comfortable with it then it's clearly a problem and unprofessional

[haughty fog]

I have no idea what other approaches or attempts Madison may have approached people. I imagine you first attempt to make a step with reaching out to the person in a professional environment, that what you said, probably wasn’t a good thing to say, and rather you found it offensive now if it didn’t stop there and refer it to management, but if management also just shrugs it off, then it becomes a problem.

[solid spindle]

I have worked at very relaxed workplaces before. This kind of joke would immediately get you fired. You are definitely a teenager whose peak of work experience is working the night shift at McDonalds. Chill out

[steep viper]

I'll just leave this before peacing out for dinner. I can see why most techbros have issues getting girls. Some of the takes here are... yeaaaaah. Feels like they're eventually find their way to a certain five-letter subreddit.