public-chat

[restive summit]

Okay! So two youtube channels! both do benchmarks, GN - hardcore focused on benchmarks, reporting and other contents.. LTT starts labs to benchmark at scale. If it succeeds then its a direct competitor at YT for GN. Considering LTT has bigger audience.

The past dynamic between Linus and Steve was close enough that they call each other all the time. Even during live stream. (Just saw some clips flaoting on YT)

And suddenly it changes! Instead of calling a friend you make a video to call out a friend. So just for greater good he is doing this, isn't it a bit hard to swallow?

[vapid smelt]

But it is true that ltt has been making a lot of mistakes from stating wrong specs, bad qc, to using the wrong GPU or just flat out rushing too many videos.

[dry dust]

Who’s the other?

[lofty veldt]

So hard to tell who is an actual LTT fan and who is trolling/part of GN fans.

[young valley]

I think hes salty his AMD visit video didnt see the same viewership as Linus' intel fab one

[alpine hatch]

xQc is a leaf I think

[half summit]

EggsKyuZee, the Funny Streamer Frog Man

[tidal dawn]

I think this is the fastest I've ever seen a discord chat move

[civic cradle]

Ahhh

[hearty spear]

This is the shit that pissed off HUB and GN.
And then GN said "If your people wanna shit on us, we're gonna show you EXACTLY what you've been fucking up.
Gloves are off, bitch."

[sick coral]

i mean he already did it once

[manic shard]

what if neither is malicious and the way gn talked about it gave the impression that this was a massive deal and linus’s reply was terrible because theres alot going on

linus said in a video that one of the reasons he stepped down from ceo was because he couldnt handle everything the way it should be

[urban ravine]

With each message, the Harrier flys higher and higher lol

[chrome valley]

i watch a lot more LTT than GN, i barely watch GN. Linus fucked up

[half summit]

If you say something good about linus and they put a clown emoji on your message, it's a GN Fan

[golden talon]

Labs poked GN with a stick and GN bit back and now Linus is crying about it

[young valley]

I think Steve invested big money into that vodeo thinking hed see a huge viewership return.. and it didn't happen.. and now hes feeling a little slighted.. and I think that little GN diss in the labs video sent Steve over the edge to Pettyville

[dry dust]

https://tenor.com/view/ltt-linus-linus-tehc-linus-tech-tips-poggersepic-gif-23430099

[stray apex]

LTT definitely has major issues, but GN's video is also probably flinging shit

[hearty spear]

Except GN has a better track record of accuracy than LTT does at this point.

[tawdry rapids]

🍿

[restive summit]

It was not a CALL to wake up! It is a video to establish linus is frauding his audience.

[solid spindle]

That video is literally not even monetised. Stop making shit up.

[dry dust]

Embed fail…

[analog quarry]

probably

hasn't even watched the video xD

[fair marlin]

I'm probably enjoying this way too much.

[latent hound]

I’m not saying LMG is innocent, but I think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion

[fallen ether]

[young valley]

He said himself he invested alot of money into the AMD visit video.. he said it in the video

[tawdry rapids]

🍿 join in

[analog escarp]

It was a sitation that was not being dealt by Gigabyte. Could they have gone forward with the story without talking to Gigabyte? Yes.

Also differs in the sense that its something that affects customers and you want to get Gigabytes comment on what they are doing to resolve the issue for customers.

In LTTs case there is no such message that needs to be delivered

[golden talon]

This doesn't even make sense LMAO. The video isnt monetized or anything.

[sick coral]

i want labs to poke me with a stick

[sterile otter]

The opinion sucked but that’s just what it was an opinion from a person it wasn’t ltt talking bad from the company twitter

[stray apex]

I have?
I just can't say for certain why GN posted it, because there are definitely good reasons to call them out, and there are also reasons that GN would want to cause some drama

[chrome valley]

id say it was, until linus’s response, which was pretty bad

[hearty spear]

what the actual fuck was that screed you wrote?
Do you need a new crayon?

[alpine hatch]

Just the tech tip

[urban ravine]

At this point, a Mythomaniac has a better track record. At least perceptively.

[young valley]

Im talking about the AMD video

[untold oyster]

Exactly, they do the same to MSI, gigabyte, enermax, everything

[solid spindle]

Linus stole and then lied about compensating them.

[golden talon]

Not really, GN themselves stated that they have a lot to lose in making that video. And they still made it.

[lofty veldt]

At this point I'm not sure LMG could say/do anything that would appease everyone

[stray apex]

but LTT wasn't dealing with the billet situation? Why would GN not want to see if LTT would resolve the issue?

[young valley]

The AMD tour video

[analog escarp]

Maybe? But its gone on for long enough that its interesting more hasn't actually been said about it

[alpine hatch]

After his comment yesterday, yeah.

[shell galleon]

The reddit feels like its full of people that didnt liked LTT previously to me, taking advantage of the situation to thrash linus
The comments from the people that watch ltt usually are like "i hope they can improve" "yeah they fucked up this time, its a shame, they have to do something about it asap" while some questionable comments are "linus is an *sshole and ltt is dead!!"

[analog quarry]

ah yes, because steve takes personal pleasure in having to smear shit on the tech news industry face linus, which represents a big part of the tech enthusiast community which he is also in

[sick coral]

isnt linus a socialist? makes sense why he would steal

[full fossil]

The reddit has always been like that

[hearty spear]

GN is never going to have LTTs audience size, and they fuckin' know it.
It's not something they're aiming for.

Their audience is a different demographic that isn't after the lulz in content

[solid spindle]

Linus is literally against unions and is a solid capitalist you silly duck

[half summit]

I mean that's what's happening in discord rn

[urban ravine]

Some people look at trainwrecks looking for life, others look for death.

[cerulean bone]

multimillionaire that doesn't want his company to unionize is a socialist

[stray apex]

yes, it's actually objectively good for steve to create viral negative content

[shell galleon]

Really wise statement

[solid spindle]

Americans have the most braindead view on politics

[thin vigil]

LMG is kinda aiming for GN's audience with the future LABS though

[stray apex]

steve would have to be dumb to not know that this kind of stuff performs incredibly well

[alpine hatch]

Lol
Lmao
Lmfao

[analog quarry]

was he wrong about any of the callouts before?

[trim grove]

Not monetized....

[restive summit]

Not a native English speaker. but as an audience of GN's video this is what i felt. And watching LTT video i don't think they deserve this much blow up. And thats why i am quiestioning GN's intention.

[sick coral]

idk man why would a capitalist steal something

[urban ravine]

I have my moments. Most of the time it is giberish lol

[half summit]

Damn most of his videos this month is... negative

[tired glade]

Had you sorted by popular?

[tawdry rapids]

Ill make one comment and go back to enjoying watching this unfold here. If I was the founder of a tiny startup who couldn't even afford to get the new flagship to make a product for, my one and only prototype being auctioned off against my will would make me pretty upset

[untold oyster]

and good for us too

[golden talon]

Gamers Nexus is transparent. I'd rather the hard truth than the clickbait garbage that LTT puts on the thumnails and titles of most recent videos.

[lofty veldt]

GN, whilst not incorrect, is also not telling the complete story.

[hearty spear]

I like LTT, and have watched for years.
I'm still shitting on LTT now. My kneepads meme there has over 2.5K updoots.

[cerulean bone]

good thing I'm Canadian

[tawdry vale]

the owner of a company is socialist?

[vapid smelt]

I was going crazy I thought the aio video said 7 years ago

[young valley]

This

[hearty spear]

GN was working on labs type content for years before LTT got there... so as for "copying" well...

[tawdry vale]

you know where "the people control the means of production" is from, right?

[untold oyster]

Of course it would

[analog escarp]

As far ad the content piece is concerned the situation had allready been dealt
I said why in the video you just quoted

[solid spindle]

The owner who is anti-union

[stray apex]

His asus video does kind of assume that Asus are being malicious when the obvious explanation is that large international companies are bad at crisis managment

[alpine hatch]

American when running into someone who thinks people should have easy access to healthcare, “this guy is literally Stalin”

[potent delta]

39348 FP subs ⬇️

[sick coral]

to be clear, i think stealing is a good thing, but i dont get why HE would do it

[analog quarry]

incompetence doesn't protect from criticism

[tawdry vale]

iirc he isnt anti union, he just doesnt want there to need to be a union

[shell galleon]

TRUE

[stray apex]

it's not, though?
Much like with gigabyte, a large company has screwed people over and does not appear to be addressing it

[half summit]

Let's not forget that Luke has been placed in the cold tundra while Linus goes down to get a signature from Guiness world records for the highest lan party.

Only to be beaten by a couple of third world country people

[solid spindle]

Watch this video where Americans in the 80s reacted to the first drunk driving laws being passed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xcQIoh3FQQ

[queen crag]

Anyone can recommend some good high quality kneepads?

[tawdry vale]

but with the thing about not discussing pay, it does seem a little off

[analog quarry]

which is what any CEO would tell a employee

[spare jewel]

for what use

[analog escarp]

Did have great hope for labs panning out, but it in retrospect has felt kinda rushed since they ""Missconfigured"" Chroma setup

[vague flare]

yes, hes clarified this a bunch of times. it seems like his words came out sloppy the first time he stated this

[stray apex]

yes, but it's a very different message
asus is bad at pr is not quite the same as asus wants to avoid honoring warranty on their broken product

[nova needle]

Dang this chat is going wild

[sick coral]

he said "union isnt needed if the workers conditions are being met"

[tawdry vale]

good point

[lofty veldt]

Linus disnt personally steal the waterblock, yet according to all GN fans, he personally sold it on ebay and kept the money.

[queen crag]

other purposes...

[hearty spear]

being announced on the WAN Show this friday:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15r5yyv/for_the_most_dedicated_of_linus_followers/

[young valley]

Time to subscribe to Floatplane I guess

[golden talon]

LTT is corrupt and its no secret lol

[tidal dawn]

Im on mobile and I can't read fast enough 😦

[alpine hatch]

Those dang communist taking away my freedom to run over kids in my truck after 10 beers.

[analog escarp]

Damn, could say the same about LMG.

[thin vigil]

British one was better

[sick coral]

i hope that vid shook some feathers at lmg and got people there to try and unionise

[sterile otter]

The people I employ’s opinions do not represent my beliefs or my companies you keep saying well yeah it was behind the back of the company that’s the worst but what is he supposed to do create rules that restrict what employees say or think? That sounds like another route to get torn to shreds and start the employee handbook drama again

[vapid smelt]

Knee pads? Like for sports or construction, also is this a lead up for a bg joke?

[tawdry vale]

they included footage of it being sold at ltx and talked about him sending an email to billet labs right before the response

[stray apex]

yes
it's almost like when gigabyte did this, GN reached out for comment

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-now-were-just-spiralling-off-in-all-directions-dan-levy-david-david-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20792782

[half summit]

LTT on their way to fire me after I made a video on how to emulate a Sega game properly with TeknoParrot.

[latent hound]

This article has existed for a while and if I remember correctly there’s no proof that it is real. Any enraged ex-fan could have wrote this.

[vague flare]

also stealing is based when it only harms people and companies that perpetuate the wealth gap. LMG unintentionally stealing something that was handcrafted by normal working class people is not "good" or "based"

[analog escarp]

Except there is this difference on the state of the case involving customers was settled or not. Which for the things GN talked about it was.

Corrections and statements have been put out

[stray apex]

what's the difference?
in both cases a large company is screwing people and has apparently declined to fix the problem, but while GN asked gigabyte yo wtf they did not do the same to LMG

[sterile rivet]

Bro this is STILL going on??☠️🌩

[tawdry vale]

im struggling to believe its unintentional when they said theyd return it twice

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/always-have-been-always-will-be-tracy-jordan-30rock-forever-and-ever-now-and-forever-gif-21884305

[golden talon]

It's a big deal, techtubers are not small

[half summit]

Yo guys I have a fun idea

[stray apex]

what's the difference, did gigabyte not refuse to fix the problem?

[hearty spear]

it ain't going away soon. Give it at least another week before it dies down

[dreamy thorn]

Talking about stuff, there's a very handsome guy making a rhythm game, I heard he's good

[river wigeon]

Apparently

[vapid smelt]

Linus is small

[shell galleon]

Once I saw a nice GPU in a store and I got it in my hands but then Linus showed up and took it from me, I asked if he could please give it back and he laughed at me and mocked me over my weight, he left the store without paying
I was walking home still crying and shakinf over the situation when a white truck stopped next to me and 5 guys got out and started to beat me on street, Linus was inside the truck watching all of this while smoking a cigar and smiling

[golden talon]

you're smaller

[sterile rivet]

Ok
!remindme 1w

[analog quarry]

it will keep going on until either linus finds a way to stop the fire or the house burns down (methaphorically)

[half summit]

I want you guys to write and pretend you're an LMG Employee and describe what Linus did to you guys while you we're working for him

[hearty spear]

wrong platform lol

[spare jewel]

yeah so small, smh

[vapid smelt]

Wdym I'm nearly 6 foot

[graceful dock]

Linus is corporate at this point

[golden talon]

proof or youre lying

[tawdry vale]

sounds like a chatgpt prompt

[sterile rivet]

we didn’t start the fire
it was always burning since the worlds been turning

[vague flare]

intentional or unintentional its still not right is my point. its hard to tell but I do believe the miscommunication story because theyve been struggling with that in all areas of their company as theyve gotten so big

[vapid smelt]

It was a short joke

[analog escarp]

The quoted message contains the difference. But i guess you will just continue to fanboy defend LMG and attack GN for whatever transgressions they have or have not made

[urban ravine]

How much rounding? Technically youd round 5'7" up if we are doing math rules.

[hearty spear]

I've got like a foot on linus lol

[tawdry rapids]

no way a coopa or a penguin is 6ft

[nova needle]

And then they drove away, while you heard his manic evil villain laugh

[vapid smelt]

5"11

[stray apex]

how was this situation setlled when GN made the video in a way that the gigabyte case wasn't?

[stoic egret]

Lol

[sick coral]

i fucking bet you /g/ is screaming outra their lungs rn

[urban ravine]

Pics or it didnt happen.

[sterile rivet]

take the get banned challenge!
Ping Linus 5 times in a row

[hearty spear]

pats coopa on the head

[vapid smelt]

If I fixed my posture I could be 6foot 😢

[sterile otter]

This is going no where the company has like a hundred people sometimes people say things that we don’t agree with but labor laws exist and we can’t do things about it I agree with you that the situation is shitty especially with billet labs but you are dying on a hill that is far more complicated than don’t say things I don’t like especially when you don’t know what the employee contracts say maybe take a step back and ask yourself what you would do

[tawdry vale]

yeah,

• no union
• rushed work
• communication issues
  all sound like problems that come with getting too big

[queen crag]

But of a joke that I might use if/when u related drama elsewhere flares up

[sterile rivet]

☠️☠️💀☠️💀

[hearty spear]

the union has nothing to do with the current problem

[scenic ginkgo]

[tawdry rapids]

hunchback of LTT public-chat over here

[urban ravine]

Dude I was 5'9" before I joined the Army. I am now 5'8" lol Stfu.

[shell galleon]

Why do you need so many feet
Only 2 is enough

[stray apex]

yeah, so why didn't they do the same for LTT?

[coarse hull]

Hello I’m here to eat popcorn 🍿

[tawdry vale]

im saying theyre both problems that can come with becoming a larger company

[vapid smelt]

It's always good to have spares

[tawdry rapids]

bet

[alpine hatch]

The army took your shins cotton?

[fickle wren]

Have u seen Linus's response to the public outting

[hearty spear]

I used to be 6'8" and now i'm 6'7"
Age does that.

[lofty veldt]

My guess is at some point today, LMG will make an actual statement(not just linus ranting). Either in writing or a video/livestream

[solid spindle]

^^ Linus literally lied

[coarse hull]

Linus engaged in a mild amount of tomfoolery

[stray apex]

mostly stuff he's said before, plus "would be cool if you asked us to comment on it"

[young valley]

I cant wait for a week to pass... Everyone forgets about this.. and goes on to rage against another machine

[sterile rivet]

Mfs stole my spine, can’t have shit in the army

[nova needle]

LienusTheftTips gonna go wild

[hearty spear]

it wasn't a lie, it was however, intentionally misleading.

[urban ravine]

Lost an inch and a half of cartalidge in my spine and it compressed lol

[steel pagoda]

Anyone able to access the forums online?

[coarse hull]

They have investors and sponsors lol of course they’re going to

[vague dove]

Is that verified that actually happened

[alpine hatch]

I randomly grew 2 inches over the last two months and I’m in my 30s lol.

[stray apex]

yes, and GN knew that billet hadn't given them permission which afaik was not public knowledge previously

[sterile otter]

Not drunk yet

[analog escarp]

The situation of LMG for reason just not bothering to go back to do propper testing? That has been settled by LMG making public comments about it quite a while ago.

Since that is what GN is talking about, yeah its been settled

[trim grove]

It wasn't secret information, it was all public. And, Linus went out of his way to try to fix the Billet issue after the first GN video and before he responded on the forums. He stated it was already covered when it hadn't been.

[vapid smelt]

I can't join the army or be drafted since I have a deadly latex allergy 😎 gas mask and bandaids can kill me

[sterile rivet]

if this gets out of hand, send Linus images of the black man with lightening

[urban ravine]

So does falling on your head while wearing gear lol

[solid spindle]

Linus lied about having received a quote for the water block

[sterile rivet]

Linus scam tips

[fickle wren]

Wdym fix? Billet never even wanted money for it, they literally wanted it back

[young valley]

No he didn't.. he has emails where they were discussing valuation

[trim grove]

Not at all what I stated.

[alpine hatch]

Coming after this man with a first aid kit is like doing open carry.

[urban ravine]

So when you get a cut, do you have to weigh the pros and cons of using a bandaid? lol

[shell galleon]

Bot keeps censoring me for trying to talk about f_mboys man not cool, im outta here

[hearty spear]

Billet had emailed LMG and said "That prototype was worth %%%%"
So that's what Linus was pretending was a quote

[stray apex]

that's not what we're talking about at all, though?
LTT giving billet a negative review (I think it was fair, but this is evidently a hot take) is not even close to LTT stealing billet's prototype and selling it off
you don't think it would be interesting to GN to hear why LTT did that?

[tawdry vale]

probably doesnt meet the strictest definition of lie, but absolutely misleading

[summer folio]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F3p9qjubzxp001.jpg

"Mitigation Sentence.
In 1928, a materially serious car accident occurred on the national road between Örkelljunga and Åsljunga.
At the subsequent trial in Klippan, it was said that the Örkeljunga resident who caused the accident received a reduced sentence because he had drunk brandy and therefore had difficulty driving."

[mystic lagoon]

Who knew that Linus Drop Tips would include dropping the ball?

[sterile otter]

Did he? Or did he just not know? CEO says it’s handled make a statement move on

[eternal shuttle]

"Cool prototype product you got there, it would be a shame if I auctioned it without your permission"

[sterile rivet]

@hallow flume 🌩👨🏿🌩

[vapid smelt]

I just have to triple check that it's a non-latex Band-Aid, to be fair now most Band-Aids now are not latex

[tawdry rapids]

Guys don't forget, he didn't sell it, he just auctioned it

[scenic ginkgo]

[coarse hull]

Mr Tong has a lot on his hands in his first couple months as CEO

[solid spindle]

No. Go read what actually happened. Billet labs said a random number. And then further asked if LMG was going to compensate them. They did NOT receive a reply. Stop lying.

[alpine hatch]

If he didn’t know he shouldn’t have said he did.

[trim grove]

If it was Newegg doing this we would all call it a lie but because it's Linus, we need to defend him.

[lofty veldt]

He didn't do anything, someone in the company did

[sterile rivet]

Blud that is the same thing 😂😂☠️

[lyric sphinx]

yet I try to acution off my virginity and thats illegal

[urban ravine]

Well thats no fun. Gotta leave it up to chance. Have one latex one amongst 100 latex free. Now its a challenge.

[alpine hatch]

How much?

[eternal shuttle]

Linus is paying the Floatplane folks in big checks right now

[tawdry rapids]

I know im wondering if he even spent 2 seconds thinking about it while writing lmfao

[young valley]

You just admitted a number was discussed when your initial ascertation was that no number was discussed

[lyric sphinx]

3.50

[queen crag]

News to me

[sterile rivet]

mf probably used chatgpt💀

[summer folio]

Billet Bullet should add a 0 after the Gamer Nexus video dropped for sure.

[lofty veldt]

Lol, the comments on floatplane suggest otherwise

[alpine hatch]

I’m on to you LNM.

[lyric sphinx]

thats called greed

[steel pagoda]

No one noticing that the linus tech tips forums are down

[solid spindle]

Are you dense? I never said no number was discussed. Receiving an official quote for a piece of hardware is not the same as throwing numbers out in the wild.

[hollow sage]

wdym?

[coarse hull]

LMG employees watching their jobs be at stake because sandals man sold auctioned a thing:

[eternal shuttle]

I'm seeing the comments here not on Floatplane so idk

[trim grove]

Not discussed. Billet brought up the value, implying it was a costly mistake by LTT. Not a quote, not an invoice, not a discussion of reimbursment. FFS

[vapid smelt]

Or rubber balloon ,basketball, Foursquare ball,football some pencil erasers some rubber Dr gloves, some vaccines since the rubber stopper inside the shot might be latex

[summer folio]

Greed is good?

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/ginessy-scottyland-gif-5741780

[solid spindle]

Some people here are extremely fucking dense, JFC

[half summit]

Greed is bad

[tawdry rapids]

wasn't there a picture of it being auctioned, which had a nameplate saying something along the lines of prototype waterblock (whatever something similar) which means someone would have to have known what it was

[tawdry vale]

LMG employees watching their jobs be at stake because sandals owner man sold auctioned did a thing:

[sterile rivet]

Nooo not the second video!!!!

[analog escarp]

That is the thing im talking about, i dont care about whatever specific point that you put up to validate whatever LMG has done.

And while interesting, no it doesn't matter for whats being talked about.

[alpine hatch]

I’d put you in a plastic bubble but it’s probably made of latex

[coarse hull]

He did a funny

[stray apex]

why are you talking about that, when I'm clearly talking about something that wasn't settled?

[lyric sphinx]

thanks I dont know if I would call my self a shill as much as just not jumping to conclusions and scorching the earth

[vapid smelt]

Public pools suck so many bandaid land mines

[sterile rivet]

We need to invade Iraq for this, GN are terrorists!!!1!

[tidal dawn]

This issue has some reach, a friend of mine who has never watched tech channels just reached out and asked me what's going on

[fickle wren]

Why did Linus not confront Billet Labs privately before posting such damning and misleading conclusions (besides auctioning off property that's not even theirs without consent)? Seems ironic to me people are saying GN should've privately contacted Linus before posting such a damning video. At least it wasn't misleading like Linus's actions.

[coarse hull]

Tech Jesus has WMDs

[bright fossil]

Having bothered to rematch the video now.
Tweedledee and tweedeldoo did the preparations very poorly. As expected, they had an afternoon and literally no watercooling experience
All the complaints are things like: We don't have a power button. The water cooling fittings don't line up on this custom case. Who mislabelled this gpu. Ddr4 and ddr5 are not intercompatible... not related to the product...

[trim grove]

I am not sure why we are defending Linus. He's not our friend. I don't want to see LTT go downhill but let's be honest and try to have some constructive conversations.

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/shit-happens-shit-something-out-of-control-it-happens-stuff-happens-gif-14044426

[sterile rivet]

Legalize nuclear bombs

[urban ravine]

How are you posting gifs? I get error messaged lol

[lofty veldt]

Im just gonna wait it out and let the drama calm down, see what LMG(not just linus) have to say and see if they actually improve

[analog escarp]

Because thats what this is about. You can have fun talking about whatever you want to defend LMG, but im not interested

[scenic ginkgo]

Blue

[lyric sphinx]

gif button bruh

[alpine hatch]

Gotta nuke something

[queen crag]

he a floater

[untold oyster]

If Linus doesnt respond correctly, then its on him

[sterile rivet]

Swag messiah

[sterile otter]

I am told that a package will arrive on Wednesday so I tell my customer it will be here Wednesday if it shows up late is that my fault? I shouldn’t have said it will be here Wednesday because I didn’t know?

[coarse hull]

They hate us for our freedom sales auction

[sick coral]

yeah cause people are donating money to streamers saying "watch the gamersnexus video"
i can tell you personally i have done that to the pyrolive channel

[sterile rivet]

Epic embed fail

[summer folio]

It's not Linus fault, he is just doing what the company is telling him to do.
Blame the share holders instead!!1 🍴 😠

[stray apex]

no?
to argue that GN isn't using double standards because of this one case where they aren't while ignoring the one where they are is disingeious at best

[lyric sphinx]

maybe its casue im blue I dont know how that works

[young valley]

Ok, if you're trying to state that a discussion of value is completely outside of the realm to be taken as a discussion you can reference for reimbursement I dont know what to tell you.

Linus literally stands on making things whole.

He calls out other companies for it, like that computer case company.

Do you really think Linus wont try to resolve it and make them whole at the end of the day?

What's his track record?

Its great, hes always standing by what he says.

[trim grove]

I really hope people on the team both call Linus out and take accountability.

[solid spindle]

The...what

[sterile rivet]

Linus fucked up big time FR

[alpine hatch]

Gotta unionize first

[urban ravine]

DabaDe DabaDie?

[young valley]

Backpacks.. hes making new zipper pulls for free.. makig people whole

[shell galleon]

Same

[queen crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/753709254803980297/941141800591167548/ruxblush.gif

[split rapids]

Why didn't GN contact Linus before this and handle it private 🤓

[half summit]

Fried Chicken

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-da-ba-dee-eiffel65-gif-14330492

[summer folio]

the stockholders

[coarse hull]

LMG has partners and investors so I don’t think they’ll shut up about it now

[sterile rivet]

what shall we do if Linus is a unionbuster

[trim grove]

You're ignoring what has happened and is publically available.

[young valley]

Screwdriver issue, made people whole

[obsidian basin]

not really. Only if you idolized the channel. He just has to make it right and move on.

[alpine hatch]

He addressed it in todays video.

[queen crag]

Ah yeah, floaters have embed perms

[coarse hull]

Poor Mr Tong

[analog escarp]

Damn, you are just trying to pivot to attack GN on whatever transgressions they may or may not have made

[split rapids]

GN Just wanted to make drama imo 🤓

[sterile otter]

That’s to hard of a question round these parts

[scenic ginkgo]

[lofty veldt]

LMG does not have investors lol

[sterile rivet]

This is unfair, destroy the moderation team

[solid spindle]

Linus and his wife own a majority of LMG

[lyric sphinx]

ahhhhh floatplaner

[summer folio]

Well, Well, Well

[coarse hull]

He did never say piracy was bad 🤔

[indigo plume]

Anyone have experience with embody chair I got one and I'm getting lower back pain feel like this isn't supposed to happen

[alpine hatch]

Isn’t it all of it?

[stray apex]

I think GN is mostly right
I also think that they definitely want to stir up drama
And I think that you're doing your best to pretend like Steve is doing this entirely out of concern for the community, when we both know that this is gonna do big numbers for his channel

[sterile rivet]

Piracy is gigachad

[tawdry rapids]

GN doesn't always reach out to every single company they make a piece on, they don't have such an obligation.

[pulsar violet]

As well as twitchers lol

[silent hawk]

rip Linus xD

[sterile otter]

This is the right take

[young valley]

Yes because he lives in reality knowing people do it anyways and doesnt deny he does it. That's honesty.. while still recognizing its not always great and has negativite impacts..

Not sure how you can get much more genuine and honest than that

[split rapids]

Yeah GN is bad for not doing that 🤓

[obsidian basin]

if your back is alright in poor alightment... you might have an issue to see a doctor about.

[sterile rivet]

Tell Linus to go to hell, Michigan

[lyric sphinx]

how dare you insinuate this is not black and white and both parties can kind of be scummy

[alpine hatch]

After Linus’s comment yesterday Steve’s call was right sadly.

[trim grove]

Linus wants to friends to call him out but then blames the friend and community when it actually happens. Just like Trust Me Bro all over again.

[lofty veldt]

GN knew exactly what he was doing, he wants drama.

[hidden geyser]

He blasted adblocking by equating it to piracy, something Louis Rossman called him out on

[young valley]

Yes

[coarse hull]

I practice Adblock egalitarianism: I Adblock everyone equally

[indigo plume]

Is chair maybe not good for ppl who are 6'4

[summer folio]

Can't believe Tech Jesus forgot to reach out to me for a comment before releasing his video. That should be illegal.

[chrome valley]

the land of cold and vehicle lots

[tawdry rapids]

I agree I think not reaching out was the better idea.

[stoic beacon]

His channel is based on drama, but that doesn't make him wrong...

[alpine hatch]

Calling out legit issues isn’t drama

[sterile rivet]

You know you fucked up when ROSSMAN calls you out

[scenic ginkgo]

I like jay

[silent hawk]

GN is 100% right, Linus and his company of sheep are wrong.

[junior marsh]

the forums went down?

[indigo plume]

GN don't want drama Steve just had integrity so he calls ppl out on their bs no matter who it is

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-good-for-the-goose-is-good-for-the-gander-duck-dancing-gif-14779499

[half summit]

Piracy good

[chrome valley]

Rossman also has a bit of a messiah complex himself

[fallen ether]

Rossmann*

[tawdry rapids]

I cannot believe they didn't get Moistcritikals opinion on the topic first

[sterile otter]

Ddos protection

[stray apex]

I mean, it's good content

[sterile rivet]

@brave lava 🪞

[sick coral]

http://linusthefttips.com

[tender glade]

So, how’s everyone doing today?

[queen crag]

Pitchforking, apparently

[chrome valley]

fire

[coarse hull]

Volta right now: 🫤🫤🫤

[lyric sphinx]

I think they still have their pitchforks and torches

[tawdry rapids]

im having fun sitting and watching this go on

[stoic beacon]

Pretty good actually...played some FFXIV for the first time in a long time, which was fun

[lofty veldt]

Yea, pitchfork sales are through the roof

[sterile rivet]

Begone

[silent hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[half summit]

A drama trench war

[nova needle]

I'm doing great, just ate moms delicious "Gulasch", it was amazing!

[coarse hull]

Wanna share popcorn 🍿🍿🍿

[tender glade]

Excuse me?

[tidal dawn]

I'm bing chilling

[pulsar violet]

https://tenor.com/view/cut-it-out-dude-gif-7309611

[stray apex]

Linus seems to have at least initially wanted to avoid it, but at this point he can't do that so hey
gimme that drama content

[tawdry rapids]

🍿

[sick coral]

lmao who the fuck stole that url

[scenic ginkgo]

Jschlatt

[sterile rivet]

Me: 🗿

[analog quarry]

[chrome valley]

there is probably a few, but for most, yeah, probably

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[hearty spear]

there is definitely some discord going on in discord

[sterile rivet]

Hell yeah what kind you got

[sick coral]

juniper from twitter

[lone pebble]

I'm just curious as to what the mood is like in their office right now

[alpine hatch]

I don’t like rossman at all, but I do support his efforts for right to repair.

[analog escarp]

Damn, pointing out things correctly in a responsible manner gives good numbers? If this is the perverse incentive that gives good outcomes i dont care. Good in fact

[trim grove]

It also irks me that linus keeps bringing up how much the lab costs instead of acknowledging the team there has had issues, errors, and isn't exactly trained for this.

[tepid jasper]

internet is internetting

[chrome valley]

agreed

[silent hawk]

Linus has changed a lot the past few years and not for the better.

[tawdry rapids]

dude jschlatt somehow looks like a bot in EVERY game he plays

[sterile rivet]

why is there 20 second slowmode 🗿

[stray apex]

be cool if rossman would just not talk about anything else

[bright fossil]

You think they have time for moods. Next video needs to go out.

[half summit]

I wonder what people are going to do if GamersNexus gets into drama?

[potent delta]

39298 FP subs ⬇️

[sick coral]

the plot thickens

[tender glade]

Cause y’all don’t know how to have civilized discussion

[nova needle]

Don't you see what is happening here?

[coarse hull]

I stole Tokyo Disneyland’s entire supply
They got like 20 really strange varieties

[trim grove]

Learning needs to happen and it doesn't matter how much you spent on the Lab, if it sucks and is inaccurate, it sucks and is inaccurate.

[sterile rivet]

Bruh I upload shitposts every day, I earned that shit

[lyric sphinx]

cause we have not upped it to 45 second slow mode

[young valley]

What? GNs bs follow up today was xlearly a double down and was done for no other reason than to re-establish that there is beef and get people stirred up

[stray apex]

declining to contact LMG on the billet labs story was certainly an interesting journalistic decision

[hearty spear]

that's one way to get some negative attention

[sterile rivet]

Frfr I’m done for ☠️

[latent hound]

Linus might be in the wrong, but let’s not pretend that gamers nexus isn’t benefiting big time from calling companies out, including LMG.

[potent delta]

Link

[hearty spear]

also there was a fuckton of people talking yesterday and today, and chat speed was unreasonable.

[supple arch]

The only bs today was LTT stating they issued payment to billet prior to the GN video when they clearly lied.

[young valley]

Steve clearly didnt take any time to digest Linus' response at all

[coarse hull]

At this point just return everything for free and give them compensation

[potent delta]

$5 - $10 USD I believe (per month)

[stoic beacon]

It's still rough. I miss the 60 second one that was up when the channel got hacked

[shell galleon]

Theory: Linus died around 2019 and they replaced him with the bearded guy that kinda looks like Linus
They cant remove the beard and shave him like Linus or else we would realize the differences in their faces

[nova needle]

He is talking about mod actions, that's agianst the TOS X)

[trim grove]

Video is not monetized and they've received a lot of backlash, doubtful that your take is accurate.

[hearty spear]

He did, and he had the same conclusion I did... "That response was absolute shit"

[solid spindle]

Why are you making shit up 24/7? Bro speaks like he has diarrhea

[analog escarp]

Good for them

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/office-space-gif-13221756

[alpine hatch]

I think gaining viewers for standing up to powerful people with legit criticism is a good thing.

[stray apex]

no, that's what steve said
Linus said that they had already contacted billet and offered repayment, which was true
he sent billet the email a couple hours beforehand

[sterile rivet]

napalm

[pulsar violet]

Oh boi

[silent hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/everybody-unsubscribe-basically-homeless-unsubscribe-unsub-dont-subscribe-gif-18820688

[scenic ginkgo]

[lyric sphinx]

lol we did it

[fair marlin]

Thanks mom

[alpine hatch]

Wow

[hearty spear]

whelp, y'all got your wish for slow chat! ROFLMAO

[tidal dawn]

😶‍🌫️ me fr

[sterile rivet]

1984

[latent hound]

It might not be monetized but they I’ve seen countless comments of people saying they subbed because of that video.

[queen crag]

O

[indigo plume]

Can't believe ppl are hating on Steve for calling out Linus lmfao Steve has integrity unlike Linus lol

[tawdry rapids]

how am I gonna enjoy this with slower chat :/

[fair marlin]

I mean #off-topic

[nova needle]

Some people just want to watch the world burn

[potent delta]

Link for this: https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15rxni4/comment/jwbrh0i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[floral quarry]

One of yall who has access to the form, can someone send me the link to the psu tierlist?

[stoic beacon]

Maybe it will teach people to slow down in their responses to each other...kind of how Linus should have slowed down in his response.

Taking more time to think before speaking isn't a bad thing...

[scenic ginkgo]

[queen crag]

20 seconds

[young valley]

Because I watched steves video and all he did was say blah blah rediculous response blah blah.. without actually considering.. THE CONTEXT AT ALL...

Steve is looking at everything in a vacuum

[hollow sage]

heh it was fine for 12 hours of spam discussion etc but this is over the top well done mr mod

[hearty spear]

you need to re-read that book if you think anything here is 1984 level of dystopia

[fair marlin]

Momo tryna up the slowmode lol

[alpine hatch]

Legit criticism of issues isn’t drama

[nova needle]

Stop making sense, damn you

[shell galleon]

I dont hate Steve I hate some of his fans
They smell like tech review elitism

[sterile rivet]

there is difference between the absolute shit dystopia of the world of 1984 and moderators enabling slowmode

[trim grove]

So? Would you rather no one put together the months of issues at LTT and instead we pretend like the Labs is great? I'd personally rather they fix the errors. Who cares about who delivers the information?

[tidal dawn]

I'm just bored at work, watching silently

[solid spindle]

all he did was say blah blah rediculous response blah blah
You sound like you grew up with an iPad at 3 years old, and can't consume content longer than a 5 second Tiktok. Fix your ADHD and actually listen to the words he said

[stray apex]

you can in fact be reporting true facts that should be reported and also stirring up drama

[coarse hull]

Bro the entire tech enthusiast content creation sector is a toxic waste dump at least the communities are

[young valley]

Cool conspiracy bro. Great debate tactic, rather than using an actual argument, trying to disenfranchise the opposition.. cool

[sterile otter]

2.4 million people viewed that video he has had more eyes on his channel than he has subs that’s a positive in my book

[queen crag]

6 hour slow mode vibes incoming

[tawdry rapids]

anyone saw the V8 powered PC basicallyhomeless made? It makes me want to get one of those miniture V8 engines, they look fun

[stoic beacon]

It's almost like gamers are...unstable...

[nova needle]

Do you wanna know about stuff or do you not wanna know about stuff? But yeah, some people really do behave like elitists

[scenic ginkgo]

Never

[alpine hatch]

Years in the nerd/geek community has made me hate fans of anything.

[junior marsh]

I need a slower chat so I can take in all the drama thanks.

[iron iron]

3, maybe 5 more

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-undisputed-nope-funny-face-gif-12337588

[latent hound]

I’m not saying the video isn’t warranted, I’m saying that when a channel continually get involved in these sorts of issues it seems a little fishy

[eternal shuttle]

1 minute slow chat please

[sterile rivet]

there is

[ocean narwhal]

So lienus in some hot water huh?

[compact canopy]

insane lmg dickriding

[shell galleon]

Mmndmfmvmf dickriding.....

[full fossil]

Avg discordian hyperbole

FUCK YEAH 1 minute slow mode

[tawdry rapids]

sus asf can i join

[latent hound]

What’s LB?

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/slow-sloth-smole-laugh-slow-motion-gif-7383871

[sterile rivet]

nobody should be punished for stating facts

[scenic ginkgo]

They couldn't take this discussion. It was too much for them.

[stray apex]

No? Of course it's bad that they stole the block, even accidentally, but GN has started to make a habit of interpreting things in the worst possible way, seen again in how they analyzed linus's response
It's frustrating that what was once a channel dedicated to deep technical reviews has branched out to what is basically tech drama content
I understand that it pays the bills and helps them expand, much like how LTT's filler content funds labs, but it's still not pleasant to see

[alpine hatch]

Limit break

[trim grove]

It is sketchy when a channel that covers news and tech related issues actually covers just that.

[sterile otter]

It’s sad I can’t disagree with gn on something and agree with them on other things in the same video and I’m boiled down to dick riding

[deft flax]

LOL the latest GN video is fire. RIP LTT

[young valley]

I grew up with Windows 95 man, thats insulting 😂

[eternal shuttle]

Staff aren't doing a good job, 1 minute slowchat is not enough, do 1 hour

[hollow sage]

didnt send it back either just another 2k worth of equipment

[nova needle]

I second this

[sterile rivet]

How the hell do you accidentally steal someone’s prototype and accidentally sell it bruh 💀

[fickle wren]

Maybe a WAN show to clear things up could help

[turbid stag]

Is chat still going?

[scenic ginkgo]

Lol 2 day slow mode. Let's go

[hearty spear]

I disagree, a whole bunch of us said Linus' response was shit before GNs followup ever existed.
And Linus' "non apology apology" is exactly what we got, loaded with deflection

[tawdry rapids]

nooo if you slow it more I wont enjoy this show please don't

[analog quarry]

funny is, they said they didn't have a 3090ti ready to test the thing with at hand so they didn't (was a couple wan shows ago)
so that was a lie

[lyric sphinx]

now time to egg on the mods to up slowmode even more just for fun

[junior marsh]

The 3090 is probably on an editor's house by now.

[young valley]

Stop.using the word steal.. that is a mischaracterization. You didnt steal something if someone intentionally sent it to you.

[bright fossil]

*auction, not sell. [/sarcasm]

[deft flax]

Did Linus react to GN's latest reaction vid?

[timber torrent]

People shitting on GN more than LTT in this situation is wild. Yall fr hating on the person who brings the shitty behavior to light more than the person actually doing said shitty behavior

[solid spindle]

Linus gaslighting, gatekeeping, girlbossing right now

[split rapids]

Linus his response was a good response, the video of GN was just drama and he should of contacted Linus and handled it privately 🤓

[stray apex]

because the people talking with billet are not the people in charge of inventory who are not the people actually organizing the auction?
LMG is a fairly large company, and they've grown so quickly that they're basically not designed to work with this many people

[nova needle]

Well, you can always just beat the Elite 4 with a Vulpix, how bout that

[compact canopy]

delusional fanboys can't be stopped

[sterile rivet]

I grew up on XP

[eternal shuttle]

Yes, by portraying himself as a victim and gaslighting

[fathom widget]

My long term worry is that fewer companies will trust LTT with products to test and review because of this foulup.

[fickle wren]

Why did Linus not confront Billet Labs privately before posting such damning and misleading conclusions (besides auctioning off property that's not even theirs without consent)? Seems ironic to me people are saying GN should've privately contacted Linus before posting such a damning video. At least it wasn't misleading like Linus's actions.

[turbid stag]

1 minute cooldown?
Seriously?

[indigo plume]

They ltt sheep who think ltt can't be critized

[hollow sage]

also ltt releasing a flawed video hours after gn explained all the issues was great

[tawdry rapids]

LMFAO

[fallen ether]

[alpine hatch]

LMFAO

[deft flax]

Is LTT forum down??

[stray apex]

LTT has been called out for all their mistakes constantly?
Have you not been paying attention to the past few months? He's been getting roasted like every other WAN show

[scenic ginkgo]

Would have been funnier in the game linked set lol

[split rapids]

Why should he that product wasn't worth buying anyway and he didn't sell it he auctioned it off 🤓

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-alter-the-deal-empire-strikes-back-star-wars-gif-15971205

[rare holly]

Literally joined this discord cuz GN ulted on linus

[shell galleon]

Linus Mac n Cheese

[tidal dawn]

Use incognito mode, fixed it for me

[turbid stag]

1 min is pathetic lmao

[trim grove]

It's a great look to talk about wanting to be called out when needed, to want transparency, and to not like when prototypes are in the wild, then do a complete 180 in reality. Linus blamed GN, The community, and Billet. He dodged any accountability. Inventory misallocation has been a clear issue for years and somehow this Billet issue is a one time thing? What if an employee had taken it home?

[latent hound]

I can’t get on it either. Maybe they were ddos’d?

[supple arch]

Nutted*

[buoyant kayak]

I just wanted some tech tips, what is all this drama people are talking about, whos GN, why is Linux hated all of a sudden, whats going on?

[stoic beacon]

With how the discussions are going in here, it should be longer.

[alpine hatch]

Gib

[tawdry rapids]

ah yes, the negotiator

[split rapids]

Clear cookies or use incognito tab

[stray apex]

sure, and he's mostly correct, but the way he chose to present some of the information was definitely shit stirring
for instance, implying that linus is a shill who cares too much about AMD's opinion when it's standard practice to confirm that your figures are right if they don't look correct

[timber torrent]

fr like this man openly admitted to not wanting to properly re-do the review solely because it would have cost money on top of leaving the original vid up

[hearty spear]

cloudflare flood protection, it's still up fine

[rare holly]

Linustechtipsdotcom is barely working lmao

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/gods-work-were-doing-gods-work-sassy-amy-schumer-gif-5737161

[scenic ginkgo]

Unethical life hack. Join with an alt on a very similar screen name and alternate posts to cut wait time in half

[tidal dawn]

Forum works on incognito mode, you could also probably clear cookies

[supple arch]

Nah multiboxing is something linus would do

[sick coral]

http://linusthefttips.com work just fine tho

[stray apex]

because I used to like GN, and now it feels like they're doing as much drama as they are case and cooler reviews?
I understand that they need the views to grow, but it's still annoying
LTT has their shitty filler LTT videos, and steve has their drama content
I don't have to like either of them

[split rapids]

Just clear cookies or use incognito I had the same shit

[shell galleon]

Lol

[nova needle]

shouldve used the url called "lienusthefttips"

[rare holly]

Then why didn't they spend 50000 dollars to fix clear mistakes on other things?

[latent hound]

That’s really weird…

[teal rose]

Damn someone hopped on that domain quick

[eternal shuttle]

AMD needs to step up their gpu game, they haven't been able to make a gpu that is 300% more powerful than the past generation equivalent. Nvidia is the way to go.

[sterile otter]

Any one want over under on Linus retires this year

[young valley]

I never eveb said GN is completely wrong. GN made some good points. Great feedback, but I think that although they are mostly factually correct, it did not come from a good place, it wasnt done the right way... And they definitely without a doubt had ulterior motives and intentions. Without a doubt.

I am calling GN out for that

Theres levels to this

[queen crag]

So, when does the iceberg come out?

[supple arch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWi50Bnyh9Y

[hidden geyser]

TBF, Linus needs to heep his rash impulsivity under control

[alpine hatch]

How should they have done it?

[shell galleon]

My sleepy ªss keeps reading GN as Good Night

[tawdry rapids]

Grand Theft Billet : Linus Sebastian

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-iceberg-titanic-bowen-yang-snl-gif-21190496

[solid spindle]

Linus criticising himself
https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15rk8mx/all_this_news_reminded_me_of_some_advice_that_was/

[nova needle]

Sleep is for the weak

[young valley]

Thank you

[eternal shuttle]

"I'm getting big fat checks from Linus, I better stay loyal to him even if I'm aware he's full of shit

[stray apex]

Am I wrong that GN has seen much more success with a certain kind of content?
I don't see as many cooler or case reviews as I used to, and now it's all "this prebuilt is shit guyz look what a shock wow its' bad"
c'mon
where's the fan tester

[sick coral]

ELECTROBOOM throwing SHADE at LINUS

[latent hound]

It’s clear that most people took issue with Linus’ response post on the forum, but in your opinion, what would have an acceptable response looked like?

[timber torrent]

so in other words you are just butthurt that GN was rightfully upset about the situation and didnt structure his call-out as a fun supportive video

[teal rose]

Luckily for the guy, whois privacy is free now

[rare holly]

LTX 2024: fyre festival

[scenic ginkgo]

The chat gpt response someone posted earlier

[alpine hatch]

So which YouTube documentarian should do a 3 hour video on this?

[hollow sage]

saying he fucked up and that its being fixed instead of deflection and non apology

[compact canopy]

apologizing and timeline on how the accuracy of videos will be improved

[nova needle]

Perhaps Colton will fire Linus now

[tawdry rapids]

Im waiting for a ukelele apology video from Linus

[vast willow]

I personally feel that no matter what was said, the outrage would've existed. If he didn't reply, and the CEO did, it'd be: "You're hiding behind your puppet", if he waited a few days it would be "you tried to put it under the rug and only posted now to save face", it's a lose lose here,

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/david-attenborough-new-breed-of-cabbage-gif-15068234

[buoyant kayak]

"Hey guys, we made a mistake by auctioning off a cooler block against the wishes of the company and should have actually listened to the engineers' advice about how to properly install it. Also, GN is correct and echoes statements from my staff that we've been rushing videos out instead of performing quality control. This is something we'll be discussing internally so please bear with us during a slowdown in production."

[sick coral]

LTX 2024: The Geneva Convention

[stray apex]

Frankly I'm not sure what bias you're seeing?
GN is correct that LTT needs to change (they seem to have publicly stated plans on how they want to change already, so like...)
GN is also getting those sick drama views
both of these things are true

[eternal shuttle]

Remember folks, if you made a prototype of a product and you feel disappointed in it and you want to get rid of it, send it to Linus, you won't see it anymore

[shell galleon]

The LTX 2024 Linus Assassination Attempt Incident

[rare holly]

Y'all can we agree that Yvonne is a goat for having to deal with Linus

[trim grove]

To add to this, the community is really doing LTT a disservice by dismissing the errors in LTT videos. If you want LTT to be what LTT claims to be, that includes getting everything as accurate as possible. Linus brags about the millions of dollars he's sunk into the labs and test equipment but that investment is far from showing. Us pretending everything is okay is the exact opposite of what needs to be done if you actually have an interest in LTT. I don't want any negative fallout but Linus's response was far from appropriate, it goes against what he stated in the past few WAN shows regarding accountability, and more importantly, it ignores why there is trust in LTT currently.

[solid spindle]

Bro's dodging questions like he's running for White House

[scenic ginkgo]

This reply was miles better

[young valley]

1. They should have given Linus a heads up
2. Should have asked for a comment or statement (Steve does this ALL the time "We reached out to AMD for a statement and up to this point we have received nothing.." so dont say its not standard)
3. He went outside the scope of facts, and started declaring insinuating and speculating on INTENTIONS (and thats the big F up right there). If he would have stuck to XYZ then it would have been a much better video.

[nova needle]

Yeah, Yvonne is the MVP here

[lyric sphinx]

plus the worst thing that could happen to him is that she is not upset at him but disappointed

[sick coral]

the only open minded ltt president

[stray apex]

how
do you know what bias is?
am I biased in towards or against either party involved?
I don't think so, I think that I've provided a pretty reasonable, balanced opinion
GN is largely right, and they're also farming drama
Is that wrong?

[shell galleon]

Plot twist
She is the one controlling Linus and pulling the strings
He is just a puppet

[devout mango]

theres no need to ask for a statement when its irrelevant

[oak harness]

I'm mainly upset that the videos are still up. Why are videos that clearly did not utilize the mouse properly or the block properly still up? Take them down, re-shoot them, apologize with no excuses, list steps for future videos to help improve QC. That's all that needed to be done.

[tawdry rapids]

If a ukelele is not involved in the apology its not a good apology

[teal rose]

#the-wan-show message

How fuckups are handled in engineering organizations. Feel free to read the surrounding messages as well.

Also, at work, we have customers bring up issues all the time. We thank them cause they're catching the stuff we missed for free, and then we know what to fix. We're not perfect, but we don't expect to be and our customers don't expect that either, as long as the issues are addressed appropriately

[latent hound]

That’s in the past now though, nothing they can really do about it now, so what could they have said to make the situation better? If anything at all?

[solid spindle]

Just answer the fucking question....Jesus.

Are you biased?

[sick coral]

so like a netanyahu puupet or a pinocchio puppet

[scenic ginkgo]

There is no Jesus here

[stray apex]

yes, and we don't know why LMG responded the way the did or how they planned to fix it because GN didn't fucking ask

[viral forge]

cant wait to see this come back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E44CQ-8ooI&t=1223s&ab_channel=LinusTechTips

[alpine hatch]

Isn’t ukulele video only valid for being a creeper on kids though?

[lyric sphinx]

This is the real story

[analog quarry]

well you assume GN is farming drama, isn't that bias? or can you prove that that was the intention? 🙂

[fickle wren]

Sure they're farming drama but he's not incorrect for posting that video. I honestly wish it was done sooner and I couldn't care less if it was posted by someone else, at least GN is good at shedding light onto shady tactics

[pulsar violet]

I was actually looking forward to LTX

[ancient gulch]

It's too hard for him

[tawdry rapids]

Its an adaptable format

[supple arch]

You don't ask large corporations to pre-spin their response. They're big kids and can handle the fallout. Or, well, in this case, not.

[buoyant kayak]

Mods, can we get a thread of #public-chat to discuss the GN/LTT stuff

[sick coral]

linuswas always crying "i wanna be a real company"
now that he is he cant handle the backlash a company would get

[fickle wren]

Whether he's a friend or not, the integrity is still there, from business to another business, for the good of the consumer

[analog quarry]

you assume even half the people that use discord even know what a thread is

[latent hound]

I’m pretty sure the winner of the auction already has it though

[stray apex]

I did you dimwit
do you need me to put it in big letters?
here

No

GN's criticisms are mostly true

The way GN chose to frame them appear to be designed to cause controversy

[solid spindle]

Linus wants a megacorporation while simultaneously wanting to be treated like a mom and pop YouTube channel

[alpine hatch]

Instead of a Christmas album we get a Hawaiian apology album?

[timber torrent]

"oh no, a well made video that calls out LTT is garnering a ton of views"

[carmine vector]

Is it just me that had stopped watching ltt reviews looong back. I just watch their project stuff and the more fun vids for entertainment. But Linus needs to pipe down here and swallow his problem I don’t see it fully happening though

[young valley]

Steve even called out Linus' investment in framework as a conflict of interest...

Completely uneccesary and BS...

When Linus has addressed it 1000x.. and every time he is in a laptop video or framework video he goes out of his way to verbally declare his investment in every video. Linus goes out of his way to even section his opinions off from people doing laptop reviews because of it..

Yet Steve tried to make it a conflict of interest thing and use it to create the image that LMG is shady?

That is downright dirty

[eternal shuttle]

Ad-hominem No Jutsu!

[manic birch]

100%, I just came here to see if anyone knew if Scrapyard Wars was ever going to come back.

[full fossil]

I am

I trust no one it’s a fatal flaw

[tawdry rapids]

why doesnt he sing an apology carol while playing a ukelele?

[ocean narwhal]

I find it funny that linus was really really big on making it a point that the LTT merch products like screwdriver and backpack are soo high quality because they give engineers time to work on the product. But its the opposite when it comes to the video production

[restive wren]

https://youtu.be/hnHbGUIhOss

[potent delta]

39253 FP subs ⬇️

[deft flax]

Same. Ever since their "trust me bro" shenanigans. I just watch them for entertainment. I have zero interest in their technical / factual stuff anymore. I just assume its all BS

[buoyant kayak]

No not at all, but I'm having trouble keeping up with all of it spread out in different places

[austere vine]

They said a few times it won't come back

[vague flare]

they always say no when asked, but I think its gotta happen someday. the used pc componnent market has changed a lot since they did their last episode.

[manic birch]

Oh really? That's sad.

[tardy walrus]

It's a shame because LTT was amazing around the time Scrapyard Wars was happening I think they need to go back to a series like that or something

[junior marsh]

I need a pawn stars GIF pls.

[stray apex]

Yes, except this isn't that
GN chose not to gather more information which conveniently made their story much spicier, even though it wouldn't be hard for them to ask

[bright fossil]

Hmm. Nah. It just shows they knew that they were going to get drama.

[young valley]

You clearly think GN is dumb enough that this is all surface level. This is a multi step play that has long term effects.

[vague shard]

lets forgiving those LTT fanboys since they r going through the roughest time in their lives now

[supple arch]

https://lttstats.pages.dev/

[devout mango]

started at 43k subs

[eternal shuttle]

This comment wins the entire discussion in this Discord server

[sterile rivet]

I’m in a bit of a bad situation rn

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/fire-not-under-control-brightwater-treatment-plant-woodinville/AUDM4K4Q2ZA2TJIEE3WLPINHYA/?outputType=amp

[solid spindle]

What more information did they need? LMG had every opportunity to provide information in their response but it was a total corpospeak bullshit.

[half summit]

A lot of dickriders from both sides are still fighting over this and it shows.

[timber torrent]

what more did he need 90% of the information was backed by hard evidence

[tawdry rapids]

youre still missing the point they usually DON'T ask for a response. You're pointing out a time they did while deciding not to point out the times they didn't.

[pulsar violet]

Anyone that wants it here’s a GIF for you from LTX WAN

[eternal shuttle]

LTT losing subs already?

[deft flax]

Agreed. They literally avoided paying a few hundo / a few mins to correct their vid. They 100000% fucked up and have been for a while now. They clearly do not give a shit and now its biting them in the ass.

[stray apex]

Basic shit, like why LTT stole the waterblock, why they ignored Billet's email, was that intentional?

[latent hound]

Predictions on what happens next with this whole situation?

[buoyant kayak]

Okay yall but can we stop talking about this for a minute and just think - what would Ja do? Where's JA??

[tardy walrus]

Nothing

[ocean narwhal]

life goes back to normal for the LTT squad

[analog quarry]

linus gets a talking to from ivonne/luke and makes a apology video

[cerulean bone]

Think they're gonna tell the truth and not just spin it?

[viral forge]

they lost around 2k subs 💀

[autumn forge]

I stopped watching mainly I only wanted reviews of cpus/gpus and small tech items or things like whole room watercooling. Stuff like those videos were my main reason for watching. Then when LTT branched into things that sucked I liked those too. But I feel now after the waterblock clown show, what's the point of watching the " this thing sucks, don't buy it." stuff is a waste of everyone's time to make, shoot, post product and release to us viewers. But maybe someone can help.

[fickle wren]

Explanation? "Well they quoted us......" LMAO

[scenic ginkgo]

A very small apology on wan show despite saying he wouldn't. Saying they got the waterblock back. Nothing more

[bright fossil]

New CEO steps in competently.

[vague shard]

you should prob rewatch the GN video now

[solid spindle]

Why did LMG NOT address this in their response? If they were unwilling to address it in their response even after getting called out, it's pretty obvious they would not have done so when contacted.

[potent delta]

No about 100.

[stray apex]

well, I can't
it would be nice if GN tried to find out, but they don't seem to have tried

[marsh cloak]

Ltt gets rebranded as Colton tech tips

[buoyant kayak]

Why do you say that? I was making a Ja Rule joke

[sick coral]

new merch leak

[supple arch]

Why did ltt lie about having already compensated billet? Are they just mad they got caught?

[cyan flare]

I love all these arm chair journalist ethics people we have here

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/this-why-i-cant-have-nice-things-gif-15043173

[bronze hatch]

damn it’s been like 6 hours and people still talking abt this shit?

[solid spindle]

Try how? Strap Linus to a chair and waterboard him till they find out whether it was intentional?

[stoic beacon]

It's going to be much longer than 6 hours.

[rare holly]

Dammit I made a meme and I can't even send it

[analog quarry]

this will last atleast a few days

[pulsar violet]

Gonna be honest I feel like lawyers probably holding him back atm just so nothing else gets said cause this is a company and you need to word things precisely or it may get twisted

[mortal kraken]

Nearly 24 since initial

[teal rose]

Everyone loves drama, including me

[tawdry rapids]

asking the questions you just pointed out would have gotten them only a single answer from LTT... it wouldve been a waste of time to ask, since Linus considers re-testing fumbled tests a waste of time, its only fair XD

[tardy walrus]

And?

[frosty siren]

gn posted an update and forums are down

[manic pebble]

does it come with a warranty?

[vague shard]

otherwise ppl r gonna go senile without watching the GN video to remember what the crimes LTT committed

[lean hare]

that assumes GN has reason to believe whatever response they get though

I can go steal a car, and then deny it afterwards - so if you thought I would just deny it, you'd probably skip asking me

so I don't really think it was so wrong to just go out with it before asking... it also had the effect of catching them off guard, and produced a response thereafter... which I believe was GNs purpose (not to provoke a bad response, but to see what kind of response they'd come with)

and Linus being Linus, he goofed that really hard... I'm not sure what to think at this point... but I do think Linus is too emotionally involved with this to think clearly, and he needs someone else to handle PR stuff for him

[lavish elm]

i feel like 90% of the people who are hating LTT/LMG don't know what they are talking about and are only hating just to hate

[hearty spear]

the forums are not down

[alpine hatch]

It’s like twitter!

The only thing I’m an expert in is eating pizza.

[stray apex]

I don't think it was intentional because it would be very stupid for LMG to do that on multiple levels, but I have no way to prove it
steve has access to much more information, and it's his job as a journalist to find that stuff

[fickle wren]

Linus already explained it. He got quoted for the water block so it was his property.

[rare holly]

Who can I send a meme to so we can post it on the chat

[sterile dagger]

Forums not down, use incognito mode

[clear jetty]

its very fun to just sit and watch

[solid spindle]

You are denser than that copper block...holy shit.

[cyan flare]

[manic pebble]

Whats it like in clown world?

[lyric sphinx]

my question is how is steve concidered a journalist? does he have a degree in journalism is he held to journalistic laws?

[queen crag]

No shout out to the armchair lawyers?

[tepid onyx]

MY YouTuber couldn’t possibly do anything wrong!! You guys are just haters! /s

[tardy walrus]

Well Steve isn't real journalism

[graceful burrow]

He didn't get quoted, billet hasn't sent them a dollar amount for it, just alluded to a dollar amount previously mentioned offhand
Linus lied about it

[hearty spear]

bruh, a stack of people who are critical have been on this discord for YEARS

@fickle wren wtf? No. They never sent LTT a quote, and LTT Didn't even offer to pay for it until AFTER STEVE'S VIDEO WENT LIVE. It was LITERALLY damage control.

[vague flare]

bruh 10 more entire pages on the thread in the last hour

[fickle wren]

It's sarcasm I'm on GN side y'all need to keep up

[stray apex]

yeah, but steve is also in contact with billet at this point so he can get both sides of the story
He chose not to, which definitely made the piece more compelling, but if he wants to criticize their integrity I feel like he should've at least attempted to present the full story

[hollow sage]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15rxni4/our_public_statement_regarding_ltt/ sure m8 sure plus the gpu which they didnt get back and that is beside all the other points

[tawdry rapids]

ok you guys need to go back to grammar school tf did I just read???

[viral forge]

it was down, now is not

[buoyant kayak]

Don't worry, I got it - I just didn't have a good sarcasm emote. Lol

[alpine hatch]

You are right GoodTimesWithScar could never do anything wrong.

[past kernel]

I can't wait to cop(per) this merch!

[river wigeon]

That is not how sales work I'm afraid. A quote is nothing but a suggestion for a price and not a sale in any way. Hope that helps by conveying without immediate hate and laughter

[sick coral]

can you trust me, bro?

[potent delta]

A journalist is anyone who reposts on the news. You don't need a degree. What do you mean by journalistic laws?

[eternal shuttle]

Linus Cope Tips

[fickle wren]

He was never even quoted. Linus lied about that. What he got was never even insinuated as a quote from Billet

[stray apex]

No, billet did tell them the value of the block in an earlier email (the one telling LMG wtf why'd you sell it)
you can of course argue that they should get more now that they lost it for so long, but billet absolutely gave them a value

[half summit]

Honestly I don't mind Fried Chicken and some gravy right now.

[hollow sage]

#lienus

[tawdry rapids]

it'll get sold, sorry auctioned by the time you cop it

[graceful burrow]

Can you source that

[shell galleon]

Cant wait until they find out about the child labor inside LMG Incorporated

[brave lava]

read their thread on the LTT subreddit you shrimp

[hallow harness]

bro is dickriding ltt so hard

[mild nova]

Steve discrediting/eliminating competition in his share of the tech YouTuber market. The tech tuber wars have begun.

[polar fern]

Linus cat tips: lots of pets & scritches

[ocean narwhal]

14 years of experience

[lyric sphinx]

There are laws in place that protect actual journalist such as the shield laws

[manic pebble]

Its ok it was trash anyways and no one would have ever wanted it!

[analog quarry]

now i'm curious if lttauctions dot com is already a taken domain...

[solid spindle]

That's not how giving quotes for something works. Get up from your knees lilbro, you'll get ragburns from choking so hard

[rare holly]

Guys in other news the new screw driver will be half off nervous laugh please resub to floatplane

[fickle wren]

No sht 💀

[potent delta]

Ahhh, I think those just auto apply to any journalist. Like you don't have to apply for them if that's what you're thinking.

[stray apex]

no? No matter what LMG says the information GN has can't be changed
if LTT lies then it's simply a better story, and if they didn't at least you presented as much information as you could

[trim grove]

What full story? That LTT ignored Billets emailed requests on two ocassions requesting the waterblock back? Or the promise that LTT made that it would be returned? Or how about ignoring billet until after it was auctioned then replying via email saying at least it's not sitting on a shelf. That Story? C'mon now.

[sick coral]

linus should retire tech tips and start daily cat tips uploads

[tardy walrus]

Since when does making videos make you a Journalist?

[thin vigil]

https://old.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15rxni4/our_public_statement_regarding_ltt/?depth=20

[scenic ginkgo]

Never

[hearty spear]

Which is why there's a waiting list of people who are buying the 4090 version of that block?
#CoolStoryBro

[lean hare]

this is much bigger than Billet tbf, the fact Linus didn't comment on anything other than that case, is pretty weird if you ask me

but it does assume that Billet is being honest about their side of things as well, which we don't really know for sure, neither does Steve

then again, if this was the case, it should've been no problem for Linus to cough up a better response than he did, if you ask me anyway

[flat belfry]

For a company with a product Still In R&D thats a big loss Depending on how far they were into moldings and stuff like that cnc Dev could be like a 5k$ block at the point lmg got it

[alpine hatch]

It redirects to LTT store

[tepid onyx]

Talking about media and journalism laws as if it even matters in the case of ethics and best business practices lol give me a break

[lyric sphinx]

Right I was asking a legit question I don't know to what degree someone might have to say they are a journalist to be a "legit" journalist technically a blogger that has a story could be one too

[manic pebble]

I didn't read linus reply to that situation, the post.

[eternal shuttle]

His hole is gaping wider than the gap between 3090 and 4090 in Linus chart at this point

[sick coral]

ight gn 👋

[ocean narwhal]

Since when does reporting news for 14 years make you a journalist?

[solid spindle]

We received no reply and no offer of payment until 2 hours after the Gamers Nexus video went live on 14th August, at which point Linus himself emailed us directly.```
These fanboys sure are dirty dirty liars

[stray apex]

yes?
wouldn't you be curious why LMG did that? Do you think they wanted to screw billet? Was it a miscommunication? How did they manage to fuck that up?

[tardy walrus]

Wait a second is someone on here deleting messages?

[fickle wren]

That is not a quote and Linus called it a quote. So how do u view his intention? If I told you how much money I put into my car and let u borrow it for a day it's okay for u to just steal it and pay me later without my consent?

[potent delta]

USA has the "Freedom of the press/freedom of speech" So it applies to everyone.

[trim grove]

No, they had multiple oppurtunities to rectify the situation, they didn't. GN shouldn't have to babysit LTT.

[stoic beacon]

People are deleting their own messages, and the automod is getting a bunch of the extremely violent/not appropriate ones

[supple arch]

Lets not mention the 1mm gap between the block and cooler. I can link about 20 ltt videos stating why thats a bad idea,

[unkempt jay]

Gamersnexus started as a website then they created a YouTube channel

[hearty spear]

possibly mods, possibly warship, possibly people deleting their own messages

[graceful burrow]

It isnt
Godaddy has it for 3.99 for the first year

[twilit tartan]

here bro have some 🍿

[tepid onyx]

Linus’ emotions are actual doctrine within LMG, it seems. Sad.

[heavy steppe]

this drama is wild

[split rapids]

I hope Linus sues GN for defamation 🤓

[stray apex]

It's not "babysitting" to investigate when you're doing investigative journalism

[timid meadow]

Someone do the thing

[alpine hatch]

Neither of those involve anything but the government, but yes the US has strong protections against lawsuits for speech

[rare holly]

Let's be real the reason this is much much worse is because Linus responded to this on his own forums hidden from everything else

[tardy walrus]

Ok thank you

[tawdry rapids]

Do people think life is an RPG? you don't roll journalism or like police officer, if youre good at it you do it

[ivory lily]

🍿

[lyric sphinx]

what if we all get sued for virtual rioting?

[analog quarry]

big meme potential

[hearty spear]

remind me, what does it take to officially become a journalist?
Fox News, CNN, and other TV Networks are curious

[manic pebble]

The real issue is the loss of the prototype and possibly other vendors reverese engineering the prototype thereby leading to lossed reveneue/sales.

[mild nova]

LTX Merch landed yesterday. Good quality stuff!

[clear jetty]

waiting for the virtual police to come in and start virtual pepper spraying us all

[potent delta]

39216 FP subs ⬇️

[stray apex]

what evidence can linus destroy?
his two-way emails with BL?

[tepid jasper]

agreed, i stated yesterday that i was confused why they didnt respond on YouTube using the community post thing, given that would reach more of their audience

[devout mango]

i got told off by the bot to not say the word for a male parental figure starting with d and ending with y lmao

[fickle wren]

Virtual Riding

[stoic beacon]

Depends on what kind of journalist.

Game journalist, you just have to be bad at games.
Political journalist, you just have to be angry.
Food journalist, you just have to not be hungry.

[split rapids]

But GN didn't disn't follow the correct journalism code, GN just wanted drama 🤓

[scenic ginkgo]

Jay's tech tips

[trim grove]

Investigate what? Billet tried, LTT ignored and then said whoops, oh well. There's nothing more too it. LTT has a history of mismanaging and misallocating inventory. What could they possibly say?

[rare holly]

This be a perfect time for a UNION

[tawdry rapids]

you gotta pick journalist as your class when you are born dude, didn't you know?

[polar fern]

A journalist is simply someone who writes about things that people want to read.

[buoyant kayak]

Can you guys imagine getting a prototype Lambo to review and then trying to put in 32 inch offroad tires on it, and then complaining that the car is a piece of doo-doo because the tires should work? And then you tell your fans that you'll auction the Lambo, but the company actually wanted the prototype back?

[solid spindle]

Bro's advertising merch in the middle of this. Average Kyle moment

[autumn forge]

I heard they emailed them twice saying they were sending them back.

[vague shard]

Guys, did LTT yet make another official response?

[twilit tartan]

bro where's todays video?

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/daddy-gif-5558805

[supple arch]

AH yeah I got a backpack from them! It has this weird tape on it labeled 'prototype'

[rugged vessel]

Honestly, that’s the one good point that was in Linus’s response

Always ask for comment

[heavy steppe]

why did LMG even auction it off in the first place

[mild nova]

You auctioned it right?

[alpine hatch]

You should auction that

[analog quarry]

lmao now I'm curious if that guy with the shortcircuit prototype backpack will auction it off

[stray apex]

ah yes, so when you hear "LTT stole a prototype from a small business and then sold it", your response is "sounds about right lmao" and not "how the fuck did they manage to do that
not very curious, are you?

[patent violet]

GN is not a journalist, he's a reviewer

[tepid jasper]

but linus' response was pretty dogshit anyways

[manic pebble]

Are they going to put it on a 4090?

[torpid kiln]

My thought exactly

[hearty spear]

Even NPR says you don't always have to ask for comment, it is not required.
And I'd hold NPRs journalism standards above most.

[solid spindle]

correct journalism code
Show me the "correct journalism code". Show me where it says GN did not follow it. It's like you heard one phrase from Linus and you are dickriding him by vomiting it out every chance you get.

[twilit tartan]

how dare you assume his profession

[tawdry rapids]

they auctioned it, not sold it don't forget 🤡

[vague shard]

LTT is a terminator for small start-ups

[mild nova]

I like turtles

[scenic ginkgo]

"Auction me bro" on a shirt

[flat belfry]

As someone who has worked in making prototypes They are significantly more expensive than the finished product that could have easily been a 5k Example for molds down the line if not more

[polar fern]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism_ethics_and_standards

[rugged vessel]

It isn’t required, sure, but GN had a direct line of communication with LTT. So like why not?

[stray apex]

what am I pinning on GN lmao
I'm just saying that they want the drama, which based on the direction their content is trending I think is fair
I'm not saying they're wrong

[split rapids]

Nah Linus was on point on the whole response they didn't sell the prototype they auctioned it off for charity for example and GN didn't say that 🤓

[lyric sphinx]

this is the most amount of times I have ever seen people use the term "dickriding"

[graceful burrow]

I may have done the thing

[manic pebble]

I think a 8800 GTX Ultra OC would probably be a better fit

[heavy steppe]

billet told them what card it would work on, LTT then proceeded to use a completely different card and then auction their prototype off to a potential competitor

[manic merlin]

its even worse given that the 3090ti was supplied by billet labs as well, but they didn't use it

[buoyant kayak]

I should call the mods for rule 4 (specifically the shitposting) for Actually Light's responses

[trim grove]

Way to misrepresent what I stated.

[idle nymph]

Could yall stop talking bout this for now?

[past kernel]

"I went to an auction and all I got was this lousy prototype T-shirt"

[eternal shuttle]

Linus should open a booth where instead of selling stuff, he gets prototype stuff from other people so he can auction them

[autumn forge]

Wait... WHAT?

[clear jetty]

omg the server could get a world record from this, make something good out of the shitty situation 🔥

[restive summit]

Because GN wants clout, drama and afraid of labs and very very jealous of linus

[stray apex]

no I didn't?
You said there was nothing to investigate, which is painfully incorrect
All we have now is linus's word on the situation

[hearty spear]

cuz Linus wasn't gonna add anything useful to the convo, and his response confirmed it.

[torpid kiln]

Additionally.. Isn't there legal ramifications for doing something like that?

[quartz valve]

I am leaving this circus, bye 🤡

[timid meadow]

Nope. All this server will talk about till at least friday. Still got vids from at least 1 creator waiting to drop

[patent violet]

Journalism is investigative, GN does nothing but surface level opinions and reviews. To call it a journalistic nightmare or whatever is disingenuous. It was an opinion and a statement. Gamers Nexus is fully allowed to voice their opinion just as much as everybody else.

[manic pebble]

Whomp Whomp

[half summit]

Anyways I'm sick and tired of this so I'm muting public-chat

For all LTT/LMG Haters/Gamesr Nexus Viewers - your hate is unjustified, unruly, immature and filled with harrasment, it has gotten ill and terrible to the point that it's just annoying and it feels like I'm reading a 12 year old quarrel on twitter. And yes I do understand that the whole drama is terrible, LMG and Linus are in the wrong- acting like savages and total ingrates is just the wrong thing to do when it comes to this sort of drama. You guys have been spewing the same points and you are right about the drama, and Linus is in the wrong. But this clown/circus type behavior is not the way to go about this.

For LTT Fanboys/LMG Defenders ( @stray apex ) - I don't really think you could win, it's a riot and you can't win with diplomacy in this one , and to be honest looking at this in a very neutral standpoint, Linus is pretty much in the wrong here with his response on FP being bad and has as clear sign of pity party and victim blaming. Please look at this in a different angle and consider your actions, I know that Linus has been influential to you but please don't defend him in this one.

For everyone in the public chat, the moment you guys react to this message with the clown emoji is the moment you guys made my point that you are immature ingrates who moonlights as a redditor.

[tepid onyx]

This whole “he’s not a journalist” take somehow excuses LMG from THEFT is wild

[tawdry rapids]

oh yea you didnt know, they supplied the card to be used with the block, and they didnt use it

[heavy steppe]

ah yes we'll just be good little sheep and ignore what happened

[tidal dawn]

Lol i don't think that's gonna happen

[polar fern]

😬 “Like many broader ethical systems, the ethics of journalism include the principle of "limitation of harm".

[trim grove]

No, I stated what was investigated. Exactly what LTT did.

[scenic ginkgo]

[idle nymph]

Didnt say that shit i just want to talk about something else

[alpine hatch]

There could be, but I doubt billet had the funds to seek out a international lawsuit with a million dollar company.

[patent violet]

I think people need to look up what journalism is. I don't think everybody calls up the president to let him know that they are going to say something bad about the way he's doing things.

[stray apex]

Yes, so you're completely uninterested in the "why"
which is lazy at best

[manic merlin]

LTT have had our 3090ti without using it for 9 weeks, so we have lost confidence that they will return items quickly.

LTT have stil not returned said 3090ti to billet labs either, maybe it will be up for auction soon

[graceful burrow]

@timid meadow where do I redirect it to

[tawdry rapids]

thats what im saying

[heavy steppe]

you forgot about the third group: LTT fans that agree with GN

[queen crag]

inb4 I check back here in 6 hours and the pitchforks are still here

[lean hare]

or they just try to desperately hold on to whatever image they have of Linus, which I get tbh, I also do like Linus - and personally believe he's genuine, but seriously failed to express a proper response

either way, "facts" are "facts", so we got to assume that anything is possible at this point...

it does seem suspicious some of these sponsor deals and what not, like the ASUS thing Steve mentioned... idk though, and it doesn't have to be, but it does kinda seem to be :/

but this drama is gonna take some work getting back from, it's pretty rough at this point...

---

what I really don't get is, if Linus is intentionally being as bad as it seems to be... that doesn't make any sense, we know from watching his content that he knows that the community will figure out lies, so intentionally writing something as bad as that response on the forums, is very weird for someone who knows this stuff as well as he does

[autumn forge]

I've only hearing about this mess from GN, I have yet to see the actual LTT video with this block but òooooooooooooooof!

[lyric sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/riot-south-park-chaos-chainsaw-protest-gif-20878334

[rugged vessel]

Saying this was about drama is stupid. GN did us a service. And I don’t think he’s afraid of labs; LTT and GN’s audience are fairly different.

@hearty spear Since when should people operate on assumptions? GN didn’t know how LTT would respond. And if LTT had responded this way in private, GN could have gone through those responses for a more accurate video and rebuttal

[devout mango]

someone link them the video

[hearty spear]

welcome back

[patent violet]

Honestly saying that he shouldn't make a video is trying to silence somebody's opinion to which he has every right to voice. Just like everybody else

[ocean narwhal]

This is literally GN's job

[eternal shuttle]

"Steve from GN doesn't have a degree in journalism so therefore all the facts he laid down in his video are false and Linus is right" - All of Linus Dickriders

[grand mantle]

I just want The DAN Show. If this gets us that, even for one week, I'm happy

[twilit tartan]

I think we should just settle down, wait for Linus to clarify things up for us, I mean IDK about you guys, but I kinda trust that guy (NOT SAYING IM BEING A FANBOY, YES I THINK WHAT GN DID WAS A NECESSITY). So I think the one who can explain Linus' point of view is Linus himself. So let's all just settle down and see what they say

[stray apex]

I mean, the obvious answer is that LMG has grown in size by several hundred percent in the past couple years and they're not set up to work with this many people, so things are kind of fucked there right now
but that's a pretty boring answer

[buoyant kayak]

LOL WHAT A COP OUT

[tired glade]

Someday they will be back

[scenic ginkgo]

Journalism doesn't require a degree

[heavy steppe]

personally i believe that everyone makes mistakes, but the problem isnt that linus made a mistake, its that he isnt fully owning up to his mistake
he should just admit he fucked up and then we can all move on

[tepid onyx]

Yeah because Linus doesn’t have any bias in this does he

[solid spindle]

what I really don't get is, if Linus is intentionally being as bad as it seems to be... that doesn't make any sense, we know from watching his content that he knows that the community will figure out lies, so intentionally writing something as bad as that response on the forums, is very weird for someone who knows this stuff as well as he does
Linus has never been called out for something before, and has gotten away with pretty much everything. This is completely new territory for him, and he was hoping it would be just like every other time in the past. But now he can see that he in fact, is NOT going to get away with it

[blazing abyss]

lovely weather we're having

[clear jetty]

said dickriders evidently have never simply googled the definition of journalist 🥲

[tawdry rapids]

I just don't understand where this "why didn't he ask" thing came up from, or why it was pointed out. Since when is that the norm and not the unusual?

[muted smelt]

Yes they did. I would recommend watching the GN video again

[tidal dawn]

It's storming like hell where I am 🤣

[manic merlin]

he already explained his pov in that podcast, it wasnt worth a few $100 to fix

[stray apex]

No, you're right, I'm sure linus just really likes to fuck small businesses
I'm sure he personally deleted billet lab's email demanding compensation

[polar fern]

I just had lunch

[alpine hatch]

Linus non apology stirred it up more. It could have been an easy layup.

[twilit tartan]

its 3 am here bro, wanna join?

[trim grove]

You're still misrepresenting what I have stated and twisting it. Nothing that occurred is excusable. Clearly a lot went wrong for it to be auctioned but the issues isn't what went wrong when it was multiple steps that all showed a lack of care for Billet and their property.

[muted cypress]

Thunderstorms here

[old solar]

lol logged into floatplane to cancel my subscription (was going to anyways as I don't use it that often) and the background photo for LTT is just hilarious regarding all this news. "Do as I say, not as I do"

[devout mango]

but (d) addy linus 😭

[tardy walrus]

Well for starters you could go to school and spend time in school to do that. See not that hard

[solid spindle]

Bro literally ate a shit sandwich for lunch

[scenic ginkgo]

GN asked billet which is the only party that really mattered to contact. Everything else would just be cherries on the sunday

[buoyant kayak]

I'm sorry but common sense to check with a company?? I've literally never heard of a million dollar company auctioning off a prototype sent to them before consulting that it's fine to do so. Mistakes happen, but that's not a mistake.

[hearty spear]

you realize that a degree has nothing to do with actually being a journalist, right?
A large portion of journalists do NOT have them

[tawdry rapids]

I havent been watching actual statistics videos from linus since the blunders with the 4090 and 7950X3D

[stray apex]

what
Linus gets called out constantly lmao
I'm pretty sure 3/4 of the GN video was all stuff he's been criticized for before
the only difference is that this time GN is doing it on his channel

[patent violet]

It's a bullshit defense. It was born out of anger

[polar fern]

Thunderstorms are forecast for here in southeastern Pennsylvania.

[zealous shoal]

I do believe that the main issue (aside from the billet labs thing which is bad) is Linus doubling down afterwards. I understand being in his position is hard, and it isnt easy to keep things rolling in a company, which is why an actual apology and some kind of normal statement wouldve sufficed

[torpid kiln]

Ah yeah. Still pretty bold that they'd do something like that without seriously considering the legal ramifications

[full fossil]

The way GN conduct journalism is so combative I’m surprised every company hasn’t shut their doors in yet

[twilit tartan]

i think his point in this was, even if he used the block on a 3090 ti, the installation and user experience of daily driving it would still be janky and not ideal for average pc users, that's why the final conclusion of that video would have been the same which was that you shouldnt buy it. But yes, them auctioning the block afterwards was pretty messed up

[solid spindle]

He has never been called out and criticised at this scale before. Just minor comments which were forgotten about as soon as they were posted

[heavy steppe]

"you see officer i didnt rob that guys house i took from him and put his stuff on the black market and then gave the profit to a homeless shelter!"

[vague shard]

It’s so saddening that nothing we say here matters cuz LTT couldn’t care less about our opinions and it’s not a community driven YouTube channel anymore

[burnt void]

Has Linus publicly addressed this anywhere yet? Haven't seen anything in the usual places.

[trim grove]

Not only doubling down but blaming GN and the community.

[scenic ginkgo]

Bitwit

[tardy walrus]

So like who? Who works at FOX NBC or CNN without degrees?

[hearty spear]

and desperation, cuz nothing steve said was objectively wrong

[tawdry rapids]

those are fun, make sure linus doesn't auction off your thunderstorm clouds tho

[stray apex]

have you ever worked in a large, dysfunctional organization
communication is hard
it makes even less sense that LMG did it on purpose

[hollow sage]

forums

[flat belfry]

Other than his forum post no

[graceful burrow]

On the forums where he was sure the least amount of people would see it

[tidal dawn]

He made a forum post, I don't have the link

[rugged vessel]

GN raised GREAT points, and considering the response from the community, most people haven’t even noticed how bad it’s gotten.

LTT needs to be held accountable, and their community is one way to do that; even if it’s not the best way because of all this witch hunting, from people thinking Linus is somehow evil incarnate and did all this on purpose (he most likely did not)

[buoyant kayak]

Sorry guys, Linus doesn't have a journalism degree so he's not qualified to put out an apology video. Checkmate d riders

[real linden]

I think he is a little upset and should've taken more time to calm down first

[clear jetty]

addressed the initial video in a forum post, nothing about the response to his response from GN from what i have seen

[fossil frost]

public enough, but not too public

[polar fern]

Linus tech tip: clean your fans, radiators, and heatsink fin stacks regularly.

[blazing abyss]

how on earth would anyone reasonably come to that conclusion without having tested it on a card it's actually meant for???

[twilit tartan]

let's give the poor old man some time to get himself together

[alpine hatch]

Linus got called out over the warranty, but he did correct it, in the most asshole’ish way possible.

[past kernel]

Thats what you think... Until he pulls out the ultimate youtube apology weapon

The ukulele.

[tardy walrus]

This chat is wild

[rare holly]

Didn't billet send out instructions too

[rare trench]

"trust me bro"

[patent violet]

Real tech tip: put all your drivers and windows on a flash drive and tape it inside of your computer so if you ever need to restore it it's there.

[heavy steppe]

theres nothing people hate more than big companies picking on the little guy
which is exactly whats happening here with billet labs

[indigo plume]

Why are ppl hating on Steve calling him a clout chaser

[eternal shuttle]

How much is Papi Linus paying you right now to defend him? Must be worth the effort of destroying your keyboard.

[stray apex]

because the build experience itself was bad, and the design of the monoblock means it's not compatible with a lot of hardware
it's a very niche custom watercooling product

[rigid tide]

i just got finished building my secretlab chair im so happy with it hai

[teal rose]

Yes, and if there is a communication breakdown, it's on management to proactively mitigate the issues caused by it and then take steps to ensure it doesn't happen again.

#the-wan-show message

[zealous shoal]

I really do enjoy LTT content, I really do think this is just a huge misstep by Linus, he underestimated a moderate problem and made it a major one in an attempt to sweep it under the rug. I genuinely dont think there'd be 10% of the backlash had he just been transparent and apologized

[rugged vessel]

dickriders everywhere

[polar fern]

@tardy walrus

[graceful burrow]

Yes

[twilit tartan]

bro you need a case to install the whole setup in, and they said they really couldnt find any case that would fit it, and I dont think people would just build open benches with this cooler to daily drive them

[analog escarp]

@stray apex i will point that i went back and checked. Yes the billet labs situation was settled given that LMG left Billet labs on read.

The situation is actually worse than i thought

[hidden geyser]

GN brought a video about significant concerns
Rossman and J2C has commented
HWUB, UDF and RTU has made videos about them, taking GN's side on the matter
Countless others have made riffs on Linus' expense

[trim grove]

All waterblocks are made for specific hardware, it's not suprising. Look at EK for example.

[tawdry rapids]

By the way, to point this out, that block looked nowhere as complicated as they made it look, AND it looked like a neat little mITX block for a very compact rig, I would definitely use something like that as I love building mITX water cooled rigs. However now that company will probably not survive

[torpid kiln]

That Billet thing was pretty bad though... That's gonna take alot for them to fix

[stray apex]

yeah, and linus is definitely ultimately responsible for these issues since he was CEO at the time
at no point have I said that LMG isn't fucking up constantly
I'm just saying that GN seems to have framed their arguments to cause drama

[buoyant kayak]

So again we're going to shift the blame on communication issues due to being a large, dysfunctional organization? Ahh, I wish I had that get-out-of-jail-free card for all of my business decisions. Oops, I committed a crime, but your honor, I work for a large, dysfunctional organization so I must not be guilty!

[scenic ginkgo]

[zealous shoal]

Oh for sure

[supple arch]

Small indie dev*

[lean hare]

yeah, but I think that's only part of the problem tbh

it does seem though like Linus is still trying to hold on to the kinda small community niche "buddy buddy" vibe, where it's just a bunch of likeminded nerds getting together over tech, when in reality they are now a corporation making a ton of money

there is also the problem of Linus saying weird things from time time, because of his infamous way with words 😂 people then take things out of context, quote things and add their own interpretation, etc. which stirs up a lot of crap in the community among people who didn't themselves see the full story behind things

I would also guess that Linus is extremely stressed from this situation. GN is a well respected channel, and Steve a well respected guy. Even by Linus himself, and they used to be close. So not only is it personal to him, but YT is fragile, considering the main source of income is people watching their content.

ultimately this could lead to some seriously poor chosen words being coughed up as a result of being overloaded... though that assumes I'm right in believing Linus is genuine about wanting to do what's best for the consumers I guess

[clear jetty]

idk how anyone can defend the billet labs stuff at all especially after it came to light that it was only really "sorted" after GN published their piece

[old solar]

chill out there Bungie /s

[twilit tartan]

that's true tho

[analog escarp]

Basically every monoblock ever is not compatible with a lot of hardware

[indigo plume]

I feel bad for luke to have to deal with Linus's bs

[eternal shuttle]

Are you riding some LTT exclusive dildo as you write this?

[lyric sphinx]

I mean does anyone think that LMG is just sitting back on their haunches right now and letting the shit envelop them and not formulating a plan to figure out how to fix misteps that have happened to ensure that they do not happen in the future

[coarse ether]

New CEO baptism by fire

[zealous shoal]

The data inconsistencies couldve been an easy "we're sorry, we'll fix whats wrong and work to having better results in the future" and that's that.

[indigo pendant]

Almost as if Linus should hire a CEO to handle these types of things...

[clear jetty]

Luke has seen the company nearly crumble in front of him so many times that its probs become normal to him 💀

[solid spindle]

Floatplane exclusive Linus dildo merch

[young valley]

I think alot of you are incredibly detached from how long communication takes inside a company

[lean hare]

why doesn't Luke handle responses to things like this tbh, he's so chill and intelligent, he also does seem to have his head in the right place

but maybe he doesn't really care to get involved in this kind of stuff

[teal rose]

The monoblock isn't actually a single piece, the GPU side is replaceable. They hadn't fabricated the GPU side for anything other than a 3090ti

And yes, what the other guy said is correct. You already have to buy a new waterblock every time you upgrade your GPU. The monoblock isn't any different

[manic merlin]

This is stil an extremely bad take, its misrepresentating the product irregardless of the conclusion. Its a niche product made for niche people with niche hardware as pricing and instructions state, to use hardware against instructions that its not developed for and label it as a review is extremely hurting for that startup

[stray apex]

yes, but this one is a combined cpu/gpu monoblock so it's even less compatible
And I don't think linus strongly recommends any custom watercooling things, especially given that most of their watercooling videos are pain

[tawdry rapids]

Its a very niche product, but thats the market its aimed at. By no means was billet labs pointing the product at EVERY custom water cooled PC builder, it was specifically pointed at cases that were tiny, and were able to be configured to fit it

[alpine hatch]

The new ceo should have stopped him yesterday from posting

[scenic ginkgo]

The coincidences are suspicious..

[hearty spear]

I fell into a burning ring of fire
Went down, down down, as the flames went higher
it burns, burns burns, that ring of fire
that ring of fire

[torpid kiln]

Yeah, it's nuts. Like if any other company did some shit like that, everyone would be absolutely ready to burn it all into a crisp

[old solar]

jesus the subscriber count for Floatplane just keeps going down and down RIP. Currently at 39180

[tepid onyx]

Lol seems like this new CEO isn’t really doing his job

[autumn forge]

Okay, I watched part of the video up to where they mentioned the 12900ks. I can't watch past that now. Good grief.

[flat belfry]

Yeah I'm contemplating leaving floatplane

[solid spindle]

Stop trying to make shit sound like we are still in the days of telegraphs. Worked with hundred billion dollar companies and communication has never been an issue. At the end of the day, Linus committed a crime.

[celest arrow]

Did today

[supple arch]

"Speak with your wallet" - Linus

[indigo pendant]

That's my point. Linus needs to learn to let the CEO do his job. That's hard to do when you are used to being the one in charge.

[tawdry rapids]

Linus, lately with watercooling stuff has been dropping the ball extremely. Im a beginner at watercooling stuff arguably and my builds are WAY less messy than whatever the hell theyre doing every single time

[twilit tartan]

that's true that's true. let's wait for linus' response and see what he says

[blazing abyss]

have you ever worked at a company

[plucky urchin]

That’s more than 10k subs lost

[teal rose]

Nah the new CEO hasn't had enough time for onboarding and such yet. It takes months to transition executive leadership roles

This also means this whole thing is on Linus

[eternal shuttle]

Everyone take a sip of the strongest liquor you have in your fridge for every single time that "Actually Light" (aka Linus Dickrider) says the phrase: "GN made the video for drama"

[lean hare]

yeah, bit early yet to see any results of that, but definitely is a reason why Linus did hire a CEO for this

but in true Linus style, this is personal to him, so he personally coughs up a response... probably so while not being in the right mindset to cough up the response he'd want

[hidden geyser]

A reminder that WE have called out the questionable Labs results hundreds of times, with no response at best and bad-faith retort at worst

[graceful burrow]

We got the response on the forums
It sucks

[tepid onyx]

You mean the extremely biased person in question?

[clear jetty]

half of my brain thinks this and the other half thinks about how i get paid soon and could get a screwdriver 😭

[stray apex]

Because linus has, at the very least, done the bare minimum and acknowledged that they're fucking up a lot and has given some information as to how they plan to resolve it
I don't think GN wants to or even can resolve the fact that their brand is just as much shitting on things as it is technical reviews now, which is annoying because I don't give a shit about how bad an amazon prebuilt is, I just want to see case temps

[lyric sphinx]

you keep liquor in your fridge

[old solar]

down to 39170. dropping like flies lol

[tidal dawn]

I usually have mine in the freezer

[desert ivy]

I love the terminally online people upset over the biggest nothing burger I've seen in my whole life.

[flat belfry]

only thing holding me is the 3$ subscription if their isn't some kind of public response within the next week I will. Sad Because I've been around since the Early days and Respect What Luke and Jake Did with this Discord and Floatplane as a whole

[alpine hatch]

Him not stopping Linus yesterday is a big ball drop, that should have been an easy ones

[manic merlin]

he already spoke. wasnt worth a few $100