public-chat

[vapid smelt]

but if you want a stronger card the 600 wont be enough, also your 600watt psu is really riding the line

[manic edge]

make it hurt

[silk island]

IF nvidia turns their shitty practices around, i may consider going back but until then fuck nvidia

linus torvalds said the same thing

[jaunty compass]

If you ask me It's way past time to bust out the guillotines

[neon mesa]

the PSU counter is bollocks
the 4070 eats the same as a 3060 in gaming
you can't tell me i need 750w in a 3060

[manic edge]

def

[silk island]

ye and a 4070 isnt that much faster than a 3060 to begin with

[neon mesa]

okay that's where i invalidate every one of your opinion

[wise frost]

cause you dont

[silk island]

the only significantly fast 40 series cards are the 4080 / 4090

[neon mesa]

because that's the shittiest take i have ever seen

the 4070 performs like a 3080
and you say that it's not much faster than a 3060??

[wise frost]

i have a 4090 and a 13900k and never seen the total consumption go above 800W in gaming

[jaunty compass]

Me when the power spikes and my house burns down

[silk island]

have you seen the 4060 and 4060 ti?! they're literally jokes

[neon mesa]

and they are

[silk island]

the 4070 is also a joke

[neon mesa]

but we're talking about the 4070 here genius

[jaunty compass]

For the price, 40 series is garbage

[neon mesa]

okay then tell me why they're a joke other than you're on a hate bandwagon for nvidia

because compared to the barely cheaper 6800XT, no reason to take it over a 4070

[silk island]

i hated nvidia even WHEN i had an NVIDIA GPU

[wise frost]

if you want the best of the best, like it or not nvidia is the way to go

[jaunty compass]

It uses DLSS 3 framegen as a crutch to not give actually faster hardware

[neon mesa]

the 4070 still ties with 6800XT without any of those

[silk island]

dlss is not an excuse to not make a card's physical hardware significantly faster

[wise frost]

if you are not looking for a 90 class card go AMD cause most of the nvidia stuff under that is a joke

[vapid smelt]

no but you do need more then 600 if you ever want to upgrade to a 4080+ when the 13700k can pull 280watts under full load

[wise frost]

a 13700k wont pull 280 watts when gaming lmao

[silk island]

dlss might make things better at higher res but its not a replacement for native rasterization

[jaunty compass]

Wow, a current gen card ties a last gen card

So impressive

[manic edge]

i'm sorry, but a 13700k would throttle itself before reaching that

[neon mesa]

the 6800XT is a 550 bucks card right now....
and 4070 is 600

[wise frost]

alright but what are the chances that said person will run it at full tilt along with the GPU?

[silk island]

yeah and id rather go with the 6800 XT and save 60.

[neon mesa]

just because you don't want nvidia?
sounds like fanboyism

[silk island]

im sorry but a 5-10% performance improvement for $60 is not justifiable to me

[neon mesa]

10% improvement
and 100w less power

[silk island]

i don't care about power draw

[vapid smelt]

you can with a 360 aio

[neon mesa]

you care about $60, you certainly should care about power

[silk island]

power is cheap here

[fallen rover]

How much do you reckon an i5-6500 will pull at full gaming?

[neon mesa]

it only takes a year for 4070 to be cheaper even on 11 cents per kwh

[manic edge]

huh

[fallen rover]

And by full gaming I mean like a game that does a lot of physics

[wise frost]

it’s a 6500, iirc its a 60/65W chip so nothing above that as that was back when guidelines meant something

[vapid smelt]

the 4070vs 6800 doesnt even matter i was able to fit a rx 7900xt in the same budget

[fallen rover]

Good thanks

[full fossil]

Is 8gb of ram enough for office work or should I go for 16

[silk island]

im not dealing with nvidia and their shitty control panel and their shitty company morals and culture lol

[neon mesa]

so, you're a fanboy for AMD

[silk island]

nvidia needs to fix their dumpster fire of a control panel

[wise frost]

you’re just a fanboy, congrats. buy amd if you want its your money we dont dictate your wallet

[jaunty compass]

This

[silk island]

im not a fanboy though?

[full fossil]

should be enough, what applications?

[neon mesa]

"i buy from brand"
sounds exactly like a fanboy, quit denying

[manic edge]

nvidia is real finnicky with linux tbh

[silk island]

no, no it does not in comparison to NVIDIA's

even intel's control panel is better than nvidia's

[neon mesa]

if you use linux don't even think about 4070

[jaunty compass]

I'd go for 16 just to be safe since you need 16 if you want to multitask nowadays

[wise frost]

im sorry but AMD’s software is a complete shitshow compared to nvidias control panel which atleast serves its function and doesnt tell me i need a 4090 to run minecraft “optimally”

[full fossil]

if you don't do productivity don't even think about 4070

[full fossil]

mostly the chrome, office, Skype, translating programme and so on

[pliant karma]

or running hackintosh albeit more difficult but doable

[jaunty compass]

Yeah
You need a 4090 to run portal, duh

[full fossil]

should be fine, would go for 16 to be safe though.

[silk island]

i've never had amd's control panel say i need anything more than my 6700 xt to run minecraft optimally

[neon mesa]

i recommend whatever is best for the tier
i regularly recommend 6650XT over 3060 as it is cheaper and significantly faster

[wise frost]

well take a look at google, they’ve fixed it now but a while back it would recommend a ryzen 9 and a 6900XT for every game

[dull granite]

wait you're still fighting?

[silk island]

and the 4070 is not that much better than the 6800 xt to jusify spending $60 more

it would be the same if amd and nvidia were swapped

[neon mesa]

but the 6800XT is only 9% cheaper while being worse in every metric
and barely scoring a tie in raster

[full fossil]

and for note, if you gonna get a 3060 get the 12gb version

[wise frost]

it’s a stupid argument which will get nobody nowhere lol

[dull granite]

i mean

[pliant karma]

welcome to public chat haha I'n just here watching

[silk island]

its called a software bug...literally ALL software has bugs

[dull granite]

I'll guess I'll just sit back and watch the show

[silk island]

even nvidia's own drivers has a massive list of known issues

[wise frost]

no it was a feature which was horribly designed lmao

[full fossil]

I'm rn going 4 the ASUS Zen AiO 24 BUT it has 8 gb ram not sure tho if I can or cannot expand it

[jaunty compass]

I run a 6600 XT since I game at 1440p

[dull granite]

and be the watcher

[neon mesa]

yeah, i'm tired
if you think being worse in everything and only getting a tie in raster is worth 9% saving
you do you

[fallen rover]

What about the 3060 Ti?

[dull granite]

um

[silk island]

as someone who just began using amd GPUs a few months ago, no it doesn't

[full fossil]

it uses sodimm, should be upgradeable.

[dull granite]

oh AMD drivers aren't bad

[fallen rover]

I run a 1060 6gb but I love it cause it's just had no problems since I got it in 2016

[dull granite]

they used to be but now they're fine

[neon mesa]

i used to use 6600XT before going to 3060
literally gave AMD a try before nvidia

[fallen rover]

What would you recommend if you could only go for Nvidia?

[manic edge]

can we all agree that downloading nvidia drivers feel like you're downloading a trojan even though you know it's the legit one?

[neon mesa]

but considering it's shit at everything non gaming i switched over

[dull granite]

why did you go back to 3060?

[full fossil]

Ahh alright then. Cause that would be a good thing since it is a monitor with a pc already so we wouldn't need to buy two extra monitors and instead only one

[neon mesa]

Adobe premiere, and AI

[dull granite]

i think VRAM or maybe CUDA cores and better RT support could play an important role in this chocie

[neon mesa]

RT is a good bonus

[silk island]

fuck AI

[dull granite]

oh yea, adobe premiere is probably more optimized for Nvidia

[vapid smelt]

to make weeb art with ai generators

[neon mesa]

the more you talk, the more you pull out shitty takes like calling 4070 not much faster than 3060

[fallen rover]

Maybe. I just bought a Honda Civic, so it's gonna take some time to save up

[dull granite]

also a lot of AI stuff requires a lot of vram

[silk island]

um

am i not allowed to dislike ai?

[neon mesa]

AI has been around for years before your ass hear about the trending stuff this year

[wise frost]

yup, and nvidia is better at the top end

[silk island]

fiona i've followed ai for years

[pliant karma]

to an extent yea

[neon mesa]

the advancement reached in the medical industry especially good
self driving cars

[dull granite]

i installed Stable Diffusion to check it out and i couldn't go past 512x512 and upscalers didn't work because i had "only" 8 GB of VRAM

[neon mesa]

automated factories

[silk island]

ai is stealing jobs and its ruining articles

[wise frost]

i doubt people on a budget even care about raytracing that much even tbh

[pliant karma]

my system likes to crash sometimes when I render a timeline or export in premire

[dull granite]

yea this is bad

[fallen rover]

Ok, I'll check. The issue is that I'm used to the Nvidia and Intel combo for so many years now, and everyone in my family does the same

[neon mesa]

articles have always been shit even before AI

[silk island]

this is a shitty take

[fallen rover]

Think I have two friends with AMD tbh

[vapid smelt]

its also helping people with thier jobs and making new ones

[manic edge]

yeah, aii needs serious regulations to make sure it doesn't kill us. but it also needs to be free to improve humanity as a whole

[neon mesa]

like you calling 4070 not much faster than 3060?

[silk island]

because its not???

[neon mesa]

the 4070 performs over double while eating the same wattage 💀

[silk island]

its not like 100% faster than a 3060 lol

[neon mesa]

so yes it is over 100%

[dull granite]

one thing AI can't do is create something new or original, because all of this is based on something done previously, and it can recycle those ideas in only schematic forms

[pliant karma]

this yea even witin the my classes, we're sorta promoting it's use for script development and movie scripts albeit gotta be modified but some ground work done

[neon mesa]

the 4070 performs like a 3080

[neon mesa]

what the music and film industry been doing even before AI?

[jaunty compass]

Raytracing is a meme feature and I cannot be convinced otherwise lol

[manic edge]

until it becomes sentient...

[dull granite]

that's another issue

also AI won't make films

[neon mesa]

that's not the point

[dull granite]

at least currently

[silk island]

incorrect, a 3060 is 55% of the performance of a 4070

[fossil frost]

its also how movies are rendered, so, not really, its just not "there" for realtime RT yet

[dull granite]

it's extremely apparent when you hear an AI written movie script

[neon mesa]

55% is half of 4070
which means 4070 is double the 3060
which means its 100% faster dimwit

[silk island]

no, no its not 100% faster and don't call me a dimwit

[neon mesa]

you fail basic math

[silk island]

i checked the GPU database on TPU

[dull granite]

also AI is hard for getting something exacly right

[graceful burrow]

Double the 3060 in what workload

[silk island]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4070.c3924

[fossil frost]

3 + 3 = 6, 6 is a 100% increase of 3... where 3 is 50% of 6

[pliant karma]

lol yea I was using it to write one out for a PSA I was doing in my TV Production class it was scuffed as hell but my prof was like we'll run with it. He was testing to see if anyone would use AI....I was the only one

[neon mesa]

open the 3060's page and see what the 4070 is

[fossil frost]

its so old, that its already been replaced in a lot of movie animation rendering with full path tracing now 🙂

[silk island]

um relative performance says the 3060 12gb is 55% of the performance of the 4070, so no im not going to bother doing that

[neon mesa]

lo and behold, nearly 100%

[fallen rover]

Could also wait for the next line of RTX when they are adding more efficient cores. Cause with the new generation they will most likely add more efficient cores to improve performance and save on your power bills

[dull granite]

a skilled AI will take a lot of trial-and-error to even generate something similar to the user's vision, even with skilled users
a skilled artist will create exactly what they imagine

that's the big difference

[graceful burrow]

Fionya really be shillin for team green rn

[silk island]

thats not how that works fiona the 100% is literally just a baseline & placeholder

[neon mesa]

i'm not
i'm just calling out his shitty math

[vapid smelt]

6800xt is faster

[silk island]

"his"?

[silk island]

how about you stop misgendering me thanks

[dull granite]

his?

[neon mesa]

it's the internet
get over it, i can't see your face
i'm a girl and get called "he" all the time

[fallen rover]

But how do the cores perform in actual practice with DLSS etc?

[dull granite]

and?

[silk island]

my pronouns are literally in my profile...

[graceful burrow]

Don't worry
It's not the first time you've been nvidia shill and I don't think it'll be the last

I'm just wondering how much they're payin you

[fossil frost]

or "reverse path tracing" which was used in interstellar 😄

[neon mesa]

let's see the amount of time i called 4060/4060ti shit
and recommended 6650Xt over 3060

i think they're paying me exactly zero

[silk island]

that whole "everyone on the internet is a guy" joke is a dumpster fire

[graceful burrow]

[silk island]

also how the heck is "evelyn" anywhere close to a boys name like what the hell?

[fading ridge]

hella valid

holy shit valid

[fallen rover]

Chill we need to be friends here 🙂

[dull granite]

i mean if you misleader someone you should correct yourself and maybe apologize (it takes like one word) and not be mad about it

[neon mesa]

it's just a default pronoun
also, good job deflecting from the original topic

[dull granite]

no

[silk island]

no, no its not a "default" pronoun

[dull granite]

nuh uh no fuckin way

[silk island]

its the 21st century stop applying 18th century logic to 21st century norms

[neon mesa]

i'm a cis woman and never bother about these shit

[dull granite]

"he" is not a default pronoun

[neon mesa]

you're just stressing yourself out

[silk island]

except you didn' even bother to look at my profile pic or my name?

[dull granite]

yea duh

[fossil frost]

heh... this is why i stick with "you" and "they" and "that moron over there" 😄

[neon mesa]

who look at people's profile?

[fading ridge]

oh no politics

[dull granite]

based

[graceful burrow]

Yeah this convo got gross ugly

[silk island]

literally anyone who reads messages? :(

[neon mesa]

randomly looking someone's profile just seems like a creep

[fading ridge]

take us back 60 years

[fallen rover]

In my language we have genders for people and stuff. So a mountain is neuter, a machine is masculine, and the sun is feminine

[silk island]

our names are right above the message text

[dull granite]

wait do people not check other people's pronouns?
also isn't evelyn a girl name

[silk island]

i just hate being misgendered

[fossil frost]

incorrect... i dont think ive ever once looked at anybodies profile

[neon mesa]

so you say that names have certain gender attached to them
sounds... hypocritical

[dull granite]

with a girl pfp

[silk island]

you've never read someone's name?

[vapid smelt]

but soinc told me that pronouns in bios means your point doesn't matter

[dull granite]

isn't that how languages work

[neon mesa]

there are people who identify as males with traditionally "female" name

[silk island]

some names lean feminine, some lean masculine and some lean to a more neutral side

mine is awfully feminine

[fossil frost]

your username is right here... anything else in your profile is irrelevant to me

[dull granite]

ok i think cis people should shut up for a second so this all can cool down

and others too i guess

[fading ridge]

all people should

[dull granite]

i like everybody I'm a big cool

[wise frost]

yeah this argument has gotten way too far heated

[fossil frost]

ahhh yes... the old "i want to be equal... not just equal, MORE equal" 😄

[neon mesa]

smh ^^

[fossil frost]

all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others

[wise frost]

you aren’t helping the situation

[dull granite]

yes

[fallen rover]

The name thing is kinda funny. Because in my language my name is masculine, but online people think I'm a woman because of English haha

[fossil frost]

im not trying to do

[neon mesa]

people tell me to not assume their gender
but then... tell me to assume their gender through their names....?

[dull granite]

yea pronouns in bios exist for a reason

[fading ridge]

this reminds me of a certain artist

[median idol]

Where I'm from, Reza and Ali are guy names

[mighty lantern]

Is rx 6650xt better than rtx 3060 even when dlss is considered?

[silk island]

you're the one who called me a "his" without even thinking

[dull granite]

can you stop
literally language works like that

[fading ridge]

holy shit valid

[silk island]

its not valid

[dull granite]

it's not valid

[wise frost]

people make mistakes unless you do it on purpose i think it’s not that big of a deal to make a mistake once

[fading ridge]

its what you just did...

[fossil frost]

you are the one who is getting all butt hurt about a very small mistake from somebody on discord

[dull granite]

most names are gendered

[fading ridge]

this chat is too haram

[silk island]

because im not cis so being misgendered is severely hurtful to me

[vapid smelt]

a free about me section

[fallen rover]

Depends on the game and how well it's optimized for DLSS

[graceful burrow]

Tbf it'd be really easy to just say sorry and move on

[dull granite]

"Jonh" will always make you think of a man, "Joanne" will make you think of a womab
that's how language works

[fossil frost]

if somebody on discord is hurting you that badly, you should probably really reconsider your being on discord at all

[graceful burrow]

That's all you gotta do is say sorry and move on kek

[mighty lantern]

Since most new games have dlss, does the 3060 outperform the 6650xt?

[neon mesa]

yea you're right, i should be the one better
now back to the 4070

[median idol]

Certified Pub Chat Moment

[silk island]

again: DLSS is not a replacement for native rasterization

[fading ridge]

heyy i ordered a 4070

[dull granite]

names, also i just bringed up two examples for most common genders

[fossil frost]

no its not... but getting all in a flap about it and causing a whole deal about it rather than just saying "its her buy the way, not his"... is also just as easy

[neon mesa]

i still stand on the fact that 6800xt is not worth saving 50 bucks over 4070

[fading ridge]

what cpu did you pair with it

[graceful burrow]

Or they could just say sorry and we can move on

[vapid smelt]

[neon mesa]

i don't have a 4070
though i think a 13600k is sufficient

[dull granite]

power efficiency might be a major factor

[fallen rover]

RT is gonna be slow on a 3060

[neon mesa]

even slower on 6650XT

[fading ridge]

for 1440p is a 5800x enough?

[vapid smelt]

[neon mesa]

but for most get 6650XT over 3060
unless you really want RT

[dull granite]

R5 7600 will be fine and i wonder if even i5-13400F will be okay too

[silk island]

the fact that fionya didn't even bother apologizing for calling me he is even more hurtful than caling me "he" in the first place

[fallen rover]

@mighty lantern there's your answer

[graceful burrow]

It do be kinda fucked

[dull granite]

||yea that's rude||

[fossil frost]

again, if you are "hurt" by something on discord, please reconsider being on discord at all

[mighty lantern]

For something with a budget cpu like i3 13100f. Which is the better choice if only gaming performance is taken into account?

[neon mesa]

the 6650XT most of the time being cheaper than 3060 while being way faster makes the 3060 not worth considering unless you really want the features on nvidia

[graceful burrow]

Stop being an ass about it tho

[dull granite]

that's dumb

[silk island]

are people just supposed to hide all their feelings on the internet?

[fading ridge]

won an ebay auction for 150 below market price so not rlly an L

[silk island]

because thats not how emotion works...

[neon mesa]

anything below 4070 is not worth considering on nvidia

[graceful burrow]

The least you could do is apologize for misgendering

[dull granite]

"world is unequal and unfair, therefore i am allowed to be unfair"

[dull granite]

^

[fading ridge]

everyone else moved on shut up lgbbqs

[silk island]

itd be like me saying "if you're hurt by something in the real world, maybe stop existing"

[neon mesa]

6650XT still

the 13100F is a very powerful CPU despite the i3 naming

[dull granite]

???
rtx 4060ti brain?

[fallen rover]

Everyone chill and help Rory get a good GPU instead

[mighty lantern]

Thank you. And is that a good combo for 1080p gaming in a budget?

[neon mesa]

6650XT basically best 1080p GPU out there

[dull granite]

ok that's not very nice
<@&750150305383186585>

[mint yacht]

Was gonna say something that'd end up perpetuating the discussion, but I think it has reached something of a conclusion

Just be nice, how hard is that

[fading ridge]

HUHHH LMAO

[mighty lantern]

Ah alright thank you for the help everyone.

[fading ridge]

now thats just straight up autism

[neon mesa]

i would be nice
but the way this person tried to correct me is pretty aggressive too

[dull granite]

'you ableist piece of shit'
(quote)

[fossil frost]

<@&750150305383186585> really?

[fallen rover]

What is this server. This is my first time here tbh

[fading ridge]

i was trying to get everyone to move on

[silk island]

by telling a minority group to shut up?

[fossil frost]

welcome to the internet 🙂

[dull granite]

go to #tech-chat-2 it's safer out there

[neon mesa]

4060ti 16Gb is the biggest shit nvidia ever pull out like holy

[vapid smelt]

Shut the fuck up and look at my cat

[silk island]

do you realize just how offensive that is

[fading ridge]

are you that sensitive...

[graceful burrow]

Are you that much of an asshole?

[neon mesa]

make the 4060ti 16GB $400

[median idol]

It's Pub Chat, this is a common occurrence here I'm sad to say

[fading ridge]

cool i got issued a warning now hush

[graceful burrow]

No

[fading ridge]

happy?

[dull granite]

only a warning?

[fossil frost]

ive been on the internet since quite early on in the life of not just the web, but the internet its self... and i can tell you, its always been like this, there are just more people now

[dull granite]

ok

[mint yacht]

Pub chat's on fire again yippee

[fading ridge]

bro wants me banned

[fallen rover]

I miss old Youtube!

[silk island]

is it always on fire?

[graceful burrow]

It'd be less on fire if fionya said sorry

[mint yacht]

Not this bad

[neon mesa]

old internet i'd argue worse
way way less moderation back then

[silk island]

i just don't understand why people can't just be nice

[dull granite]

wait before the nuke fionya you can apologize real quick and we'll move on

[silk island]

i want an apology for u calling me he please

[neon mesa]

i will not apologize considering the person replied to me aggressively
and i already moved on like 10 mins ago (see the reply)

[fossil frost]

people, on the whole, throughout the whole of history... are arseholes

[fading ridge]

stop forcing it...

[dull granite]

:C

[graceful burrow]

And they don't have to be

[silk island]

im sorry for replying to you aggressively; gender is just a serious topic to me

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-gif-23521077

[fossil frost]

actually, survival of the fittest... so yes... you do

[neon mesa]

i'm sorry for misgendering you

[dull granite]

fuckin finally

[median idol]

Remember the days when us people would use the internet as some form of refuge in the early days before it became mainstream? Those were the days

[neon mesa]

holy shit i can't type

[timid meadow]

Im an equal opportunity jackass

[graceful burrow]

It's that easy

[mint yacht]

There we go
Now can y'all clown on people for buying an RTX 4060 or something?

[fossil frost]

a few hundred years of civilisation doesnt erase 100s of 1000s or millions of years of evolutionary biology

[graceful burrow]

Not the time

[silk island]

remember when the internet was simple and wasn't loaded with assholes? lol

[graceful burrow]

Stop being transphobic and shut up

[dull granite]

it never was

[fading ridge]

this is why cod vc exists

[fossil frost]

no, its always been full of arseholes

[fallen rover]

I think the internet 10 years ago was perfect. Social media was common back then, but not 80% of people's daily lives

[neon mesa]

the 4060 is really.... trash

it's unfathomable, like unbelievably trash

[median idol]

Not what I was getting at but okay

[silk island]

they probably meant to reply to me

[neon mesa]

i still stand on the fact that 4070 is a good buy for anyone needing more than raster and care about power usage as there's no last gen alternative

[fossil frost]

even back when there was no web, and some of the earlier "message boards" that were direct dial in boards... discussing the simpsons season 2... people were still arseholes and got massively butt hurt when you disagreed with them... its always been like this

[neon mesa]

but the 4060ti?
the 3060ti is as good for way less on those non gaming tasks

[silk island]

can we just drop this?

not everyones going to agree with your opinion

[dull granite]

i think you're right but we should focus on making fun of people who bought the 4060/ti

[graceful burrow]

This fr

[ionic abyss]

bah

[neon mesa]

i 100% agree on 4060/ti being shit
btu the 4070 has its use

[vapid smelt]

RX 6950 XT cost the same $600

[fallen rover]

What would you recommend for someone looking to only do rasterization?

[ionic abyss]

4070 the poor mans gpu

[silk island]

why are we still fuckin talking about the 4070

goddamn these gpu discussions go on forever

[graceful burrow]

Gotta meet the shill quota or else nvidia won't pay em

[dull granite]

because nobody won

[neon mesa]

that's used, and i mentioned for anyone needing more than raster gaming and wants low power usage

[vapid smelt]

new

[neon mesa]

meeting AMD shill quota is about as bad

[dull granite]

nooo

[graceful burrow]

Good thing I don't shill for amd kek

[neon mesa]

well then get the 6950XT
no doubt, the 4070 gets rekt

[dull granite]

stop with calling each others shills

[dull granite]

everyone 🤝 you

[silk island]

if AMD and NVIDIA were swapped, e.g. if AMD was the perf king, and their GPU cost $60 more than the equivalent NVIDIA GPU

I'd go NVIDIA for slightly worse performance but overall cost savings in terms of a first time purchase

[neon mesa]

shliling for apple is worse than shilling for nvidia

[fading ridge]

how do i send images

[silk island]

i'd shill for apple tbh

[mint yacht]

Image permissions are mostly disabled in this chat

[median idol]

https://tenor.com/view/sev-pepsi-blue-max-alley-gif-10700918

[silk island]

i like their products

[mint yacht]

Except for floatplane pilots and staff

[silk island]

nah i disagree lol

[fading ridge]

fair enough

[neon mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/you-say-what-now-thats-funny-what-did-you-say-say-it-again-gif-16624005

[vapid smelt]

on the m1+ apple stuff right?

[silk island]

sure

[graceful burrow]

You don't thankfully

[neon mesa]

shilling for anything is shitty mindset

[silk island]

i also like iphones lol

[mint yacht]

I say mostly disabled lol

[silk island]

GIFs are excluded

[fading ridge]

was gonna send a benchmark but ok

bit rude

[vapid smelt]

even matches in rt

[neon mesa]

no company is your friend
and get whatever is best for your use case
if it happens to be apple then cool
but buying something just because it's apple is shitty mindset

[dull granite]

did anyone tried to do anything in Stable Diffusion?

[graceful burrow]

I have

[main quail]

Some1 help me decide do I move my desk around. I’d just be moving my desk to the left and a cubicle I have to the right of my desk next to my bed instead but I’d have to redo all my wires and everything

[neon mesa]

major reason i switched to 3060 lol

[silk island]

amd has a tendency to improve the performance of their GPUs overtime

pretty sure even that benchmark from april 2023 is no longer current

[grim ether]

You also get MPT with the 6950xt

[neon mesa]

the 6600XT absolutely suck balls on stable diffusion

[grim ether]

Should smash the 4070 then

[vapid smelt]

what wroung with sucking balls?

[fading ridge]

hello 240hz 1080p or 144hz 1440p on an r7 5800x + rtx 4070

[dull granite]

yea it really benefits thanks to more vram and better support

[neon mesa]

if you say it that way
not really bad

[silk island]

amd gpus have never really been meant for prosumer usecases like stable diff

[neon mesa]

if you want stable diffusion
RDNA 3 or Nvidia
the rest is garbo

[dull granite]

i lost interest in stable diffusion because it never generated quite what i wanted

[vapid smelt]

lower is better right

[dull granite]

adding more prompts seemed to only hurt it

[neon mesa]

it requires a proper workflow

[silk island]

that requires effort

[dull granite]

and finding more LORAs is well...

[neon mesa]

it's not as simple as type and get what you want as many think

[dull granite]

it's not?!?!?

[fading ridge]

😦

[neon mesa]

my PFP is partly AI lol
10% of it is AI

[mint yacht]

1440p

[neon mesa]

i draw it then let AI do some finishing touches

[silk island]

can floatplane staff please implement support for buying subs in CAD instead of USD

[neon mesa]

because there's no way just regular text to image is gonna fit my style

[dull granite]

good artists will find a way to use the AI because it can help with visualizing something quick

[silk island]

like

lmg is literally a canadian company, why charge in usd 😭

[dull granite]

good example was 3klilspjiliphs video about it's usage in maps

[fiery oyster]

Payment gateway convenience? Maybe.

[silk island]

they should use stripe then

[dull granite]

ofc AI won't make a good CSGO map, but the mapper can use it to make thier work better

[neon mesa]

combining drawing and Ai seems to yield the best results
though purely AI still takes some time and even then might not fit exactly

[dull granite]

um

[neon mesa]

one of the images takes me 3 hours and still not fit what i want

[fiery oyster]

No argument there, or any of the other myriad of providers!

[silk island]

i just don't see the point in making canadians pay in USD...we should be charged our native currency instead of usd because the cad to usd has a shitty exchange rate

[dull granite]

i don't see AI images as arts

they're AI generated images

[silk island]

i was charged over $100 to buy ltx tickets because of that USD to CAD nonsense

[fallen rover]

USD is more common. Wish my country moved to USD

[dull granite]

they're ai generated concepts at most

[neon mesa]

art is just expression
not the fact that you can use a brush

[silk island]

yeah except LMG & Floatplane are based out of B.C. a Canadian province

[fiery oyster]

As an Aussie, I agree. If I'm interacting with an Aussie platform, it should be AUD.

[neon mesa]

if people call spinning canvas on a drill art
AI is more than fitting the standard for art

[silk island]

can you move the AI discussion to a thread

[dull granite]

thing is, the AI is based on only things that were done

[fallen rover]

Isn't their new CEO from the US?

[dull granite]

we're talking tech in here

[neon mesa]

have you seen websites like devianart and the million generic looking images made by humans

[silk island]

yes, but hes in the process of getting a visa and everything

[dull granite]

a fairly respectful discussion

[silk island]

or approval to move to Canada

[fiery oyster]

• personal considerations.

[silk island]

i don't entirely remember whats happening with that

[fallen rover]

Hopefully LTT will grow with him. Gonna miss Linus though bc I like his personality

[silk island]

but the company through and through is still entirely Canadian

[neon mesa]

AI is not beating the top human artists that still has originality
it sure does beat the 90% quick cash artists that has no effort

[fiery oyster]

Miss him? He's not going anywhere.

[silk island]

what, Linus is still with LMG

[dull granite]

hm, while i do agree a lot of artists just do unoriginal things, i think AI is what will push people to create more unique things and original works

[silk island]

hes just chief vision officer now instead of CEO

[fallen rover]

I know he's still there, but idk I just liked the way he handled things

He had some humor even though the staff messed up at times

[jaunty compass]

I'm referring to current real time raytracing in gaming.
As of right now it's just not worth it

[fiery oyster]

He himself admitted that he handled thiings very poorly when it came to operations, so it's fine.

[dull granite]

and if it creates something ""not generic af"", big chance you'll find a remnant of a watermark...

[neon mesa]

i had to draw my banner because Ai straight up have no concept of a "fighter jet girl"

[dull granite]

oh yea

this is the big thing that AI won't do

[scarlet plover]

omg this server wasn't showing and I thought I got banned

[fallen rover]

Maybe? Could also be Linus being too critical of himself. Takes a lot of effort to build something as big as he has, with help from his wife of course

[dull granite]

AI doesn't read your mind

[neon mesa]

stable diffusion doesn't have the watermark issue

the training data and the amount of model merges that has happened simply makes that impossible

[dull granite]

your hands do however, this is why actual artists are superior

[silk island]

but back to my point

i understand wanting to support USD because of the fact that most LTT viewers are in America, but, like

there's a reason most storefronts have support for multiple currencies and I don't see how support for both USD and CAD couldn't be built into stuff like LTT Store, Floatplane, LTX tickets, etc...for the future

[fallen rover]

Sometimes I think it does 😂 Google has this way of pretty much reading my mind... maybe it's just all the data they have on me

[fiery oyster]

Not really, he has explained several times on WAN show what the situation is, and it makes complete sense.

[dull granite]

not in that way, in more artistic way

[neon mesa]

nah cap
if my hands read my mind i can draw perfect hands

[fallen rover]

Alright, fair enough. Hopefully he'll be happy cause that all that matters in the end

That's*

[fiery oyster]

Yeh for sure! Also, it should mean better content!

[neon mesa]

i have to resort to "cheats" and either make a simple hand of straight up hide it

[dull granite]

I have a vision of a very big gun with a magazine behind the trigger and a flashlight, if i had the skills i would be able to perfectly draw what i imagined

[silk island]

the LMG website hasn't even been updated yet to say that Terren Tong is the new CEO LMAO

[fiery oyster]

Play EFT 😉

[dull granite]

what's that

[silk island]

yet he became CEO on july 1 😂

[dull granite]

AI will try its best but it will never do exactly what i imagined

[neon mesa]

it all came full circle

[fallen rover]

He's probably easing into it. Maybe they'll make a big announcement video with him and Linus exhanging some gifts and cake etc

[dull granite]

what's EFT

[neon mesa]

linus became self employed and became his own boss
now his old boss becomes his "boss" again

[fiery oyster]

Escape from Tarkov.

[dull granite]

oh yea from what I've heard you can customize your guns to death

[fiery oyster]

Yessir! It's amazing.

[fallen rover]

Linus will always be the boss in my eyes, and Alex his assistant

[neon mesa]

though CEO and CVO titles are technically just made up names afterall
like how elon calls him self techno king lmfao and is entirely legal

[dull granite]

is yessir a dude's "yasss"

[neon mesa]

though which is higher CEO and CVO

[fallen rover]

I say yessir to my dad

[dull granite]

and?

[neon mesa]

i feel like CVO is just CEO without the boring part

[fallen rover]

I respect him

[fiery oyster]

Dunno, it's just a confirmation. Maybe in the US? haha

[dull granite]

what happened

[neon mesa]

say yessir in caps and congrats you're in the army

[grim ether]

Well people actually say yessir but I've never heard someone say "yassss" seriously

[dull granite]

tl;dr: AI sucks lmao but not really

[fallen rover]

CEO just sounds cooler after I watched the social network, that movie about Mark zuikerberg

[dull granite]

oh shit it's already 2:07 AM

[fallen rover]

Same

[fiery oyster]

CEO comes with certain responsibilities so... he isn't capable to do them, move on - roles change, blah blah

1:07am here!

[neon mesa]

why would you put lizard zuck and cool on the same sentence

[dull granite]

ill guess

I'll bounce then

[fiery oyster]

Night!

[neon mesa]

CVO is just CEO without the boring shit

[fallen rover]

I'll be honest. I use Facebook and I like it

Wat. A message got removed?

[neon mesa]

well damn that's censored
i use facebook unironically
zuck still a loser

[fiery oyster]

Pics?

[fallen rover]

Idk him personally, all I can say is that he's not as cool as Linus

[fiery oyster]

Impressive. What specs you running?

Be sure not to kill it 😄

[fading ridge]

anyone heard of gpu error 43?

[fiery oyster]

That's awesome. It's surprising that nobody had done that before, but nicel done!

Do you think you got lucky with a good chip?

Haha that's fair. Enjoy being #1 whilst you can 😉

Makes sense - not like storage really impacts actual performance based benchmarks for the other components

[smoky elm]

hey everyone , hp pavilion notebook 15-ab049nb is the laptop im currently using and i want to know if there is any upgrades i can do to this laptop as i feel its because so slow for no reason, it overheats alot and makes weird noises (i posted it on tech support) , i dont know how to go about this situation i just got a new windows key for it and im trying to bring it back to life

[fiery oyster]

Tech support will respond in kind, I suggest you keep an eye on your submission there.

[fallen rover]

Lately I've been so bad at optimizing code and just typing and playing piano in general. Like anything that requires some brainpower and eye hand coordination

[vapid smelt]

ew a cross poster

[fallen rover]

Did like a blood test and there's nothing wrong with me, but objectively there is bc I checked my typing speed and it's 40 instead of 80 which I usually have

And this happened after I got a really bad flu, so strange but it was like 1 week and then -9999 brain cells

[polar fern]

A literal shitpost? I choose 0

Link intensifies

[indigo plume]

spiderman gotta be sonys most overrated exclusive game

[polar fern]

Hm disagree

[graceful burrow]

Tlou2

[indigo plume]

TLOu2 isnt rated that highly

[fallen rover]

0 is probably the most comfortable during winter. My bathroom is rather cold cause there's no heating, but my toilet is too small to fit my whole body inside of it

[graceful burrow]

You're living under a rock

[indigo plume]

I lot of ppl dont like Tlou2

[polar fern]

Spider-man the movie for cube was awesome

[indigo plume]

there was hella hate for Tlou2 when it came out

[manic torrent]

Hmmmm, I wonder if there is an illness occuring across the globe that causes long lasting cognitive effects

[graceful burrow]

More love than hate
Hell it beat doom eternal for best soundtrack
A fucking travesty

[indigo plume]

i mean awards are always popularity contetests

[graceful burrow]

OK???
That just proves my point?

[polar fern]

@manic torrent apparently “flu” is now year-round.

[indigo plume]

either way spider man is average af

[polar fern]

Naw it great

[fallen rover]

My doctor thinks it not, and he thinks I'm just imaginaging things due to the blood work done. But I know there's something wrong. I try as hard as I can typing and I still get 45 words, and I still can't play simple songs on the piano which I was able to before easily. Even work... I have to concentrate super hard to even get something done

[indigo plume]

maybe for a 30 dollar game

[polar fern]

@fallen rover welcome to long Covid.

[indigo plume]

that game aint worth the 60 dollar price tag

like miles morales was basicly a dlc

was like 10 hrs long

[manic torrent]

yeah your doctor doesn't know shit

[polar fern]

I have long Covid & it succc

[manic torrent]

I mean, don't get me wrong, it COULD be anything, but "a bad flu" followed by neuro symptoms is more or less as textbook as it gets

[fallen rover]

This is a good example from this server even, I wrote: "My doctor thinks it not" but meant to write "it's"

[polar fern]

Yes

Long Covid. You have it.

[fallen rover]

It's annoying af

[polar fern]

It is

Immune system not allowed into the brain, so the virus can do nefarious things unchecked

[fallen rover]

What have you done to mitigate it?

[manic torrent]

https://ko-fi.com/post/Someones-Been-Cooking-Their-Covid-Books-X8X8NDH62 TLDR: "excess deaths" are not being measured the same way they were, making it "better"

[polar fern]

Vaccine definitely helped massively. No clue how tho

The cognitive stuff definitely improved after the first two rounds of vaccine

Fluctuating body temperature also improved quite a bit like the second round of vaccine. Six months later. Definitely had improvements on thermal fluctuations

[fallen rover]

I have three of them

Maybe I'll have another shot at some point

This has been going on since March, so I'm getting rather tired of it at this point

[polar fern]

It’s been since april of 2020 for me - was sick dec-jan

[manic torrent]

I am very angry at your doctor. You unfortunately cannot know this from your blood work. They should know that.

[polar fern]

New doc

Neurotransmitter & hormone levels should be checked.

[feral island]

E

Damn man ive been in this discord for 3 whole years now

[graceful burrow]

Only 123 messages tho

Hard to call that really being here

[full fossil]

how many do me have? asking bc I don't want to check

[dire bone]

People can delete there messages i know I have

[fallen rover]

Can't post pics here for some reason. But the blood test showed that hormones were very good, with serum testosterone on the lower side

[dire bone]

I have messages in the private floatplane chats from when the discord was made

[full fossil]

You need to boost the server or become a float plane subscriber

[polar fern]

@fallen rover I’d get a neuro/ psych specialist on the case

[graceful burrow]

Or twitch sub

[full fossil]

damn forgot about that

[polar fern]

We has a mutant

[neon mesa]

https://youtube.com/shorts/HwuwI5uxS5E?feature=share
Biggest PCMR Sin ever

$900 worth of case and PSU
$50 PC

[manic torrent]

jej

[silk island]

i've been here since november 2017 huehuehue

[limpid dome]

[wind pulsar]

Twitch sub doesn't exist anymore

[graceful burrow]

Based

Tho it does

[wind pulsar]

And you can find evidence of you evading filters and ripping the n word almost immediately upon joining, so proud of you

[graceful burrow]

Transit has it and can post pictures

[wind pulsar]

Ohh, then they just removed the old color I guess

[graceful burrow]

Yeah

[silk island]

that was because i was telling them not to use that word

[wind pulsar]

Simple solution would've been to call the mods, not evade the filter

[graceful burrow]

Tbf
You did still evade a filter

[silk island]

anyways that was 6 years ago when i was a teenager i don't care

[gilded quest]

stop

[polar fern]

@wind pulsar

[manic torrent]

6 years ago I was still old

[gilded quest]

i dont wanna hear that 2017 was 6 years ago

[wind pulsar]

You old fuck

[wind pulsar]

I have no idea what that is supposed to tell me

[median idol]

Habibis/Habibtis..... Can you like fucking not?

[wind pulsar]

Fair, I just found it funny lmfao

[gilded quest]

i'm nearing 30
im ready for a retirement home soon

[graceful burrow]

1v1 me quake 1

[wind pulsar]

Mashallah I appreciate it but 'tis was but a jokey lmao

[polar fern]

I was a teenager last millennium

[manic torrent]

overdialup, in last level of e1, grenade launchers only

[median idol]

Let me get my old Pentium MMX rig

[polar fern]

I had a packard bell from sears - floor model

[graceful burrow]

We wouldn't even need dialup between us
Our connection to eachother would be shit enough to emulate it

[neon mesa]

Average internet speed now is 1000x faster than dialup but it still feels shit 💀

[polar fern]

Salesman told us apple was going out of business - we were looking at one of the power Macintosh 9600’s.

[neon mesa]

Tbf they were until Microsoft saved their asses

[polar fern]

But he lied.

[neon mesa]

Prediction aren't lies

[polar fern]

And the 9600 is a great machine

[pure olive]

grammar

[cedar storm]

how horrible of a bottleneck will a 3080/3090 and a r5 3600 be

[gilded quest]

Your computer will explode.

[wind pulsar]

Calling someone that got his predictions wrong a liar is beyond fucked

[cedar storm]

real

[gilded quest]

real

[pure olive]

will malfunction so hard, will make your next of kin be put in the hospital

[neon mesa]

The microsoft deal was unexpected
Apple was 100% going to go kapoot without it

[wind pulsar]

But I'm also not gonna be able to change the attitude of millenials, so I don't care all that much

[polar fern]

@wind pulsar he was lying to move pc hardware. Same guy was there a few years later & was pushing plasma tv vs lcd

[neon mesa]

I'm still waiting for macrohard to make Door OS

[pure olive]

I'm waiting for 32" 4k oled to become cost efficient before I go oled

[neon mesa]

Plasma TV is better than LCD and
Apple was indeed going out of business and it is to be considered as you can't get support from a bankrupt company

There's no lie in it

[wind pulsar]

You'll be waiting a while then

[polar fern]

Where’s plasma today?

[pure olive]

I've got time

[pure olive]

my grandmas house!

[vapid smelt]

waiting for 27inch 4k 144hz mini led to be $450

[neon mesa]

Plasma failed due to costs not that it's shit

[wind pulsar]

In the trash bin because even if it had better everything, it was very power inefficient lol

[neon mesa]

People were using high power CRT just a few years before
The biggest issue was purchase cost

[wind pulsar]

You also couldn't really push beyond 1080p on these things, so out it goes

[polar fern]

No. He was going for commission. It’s ok you never experienced retail in the 90’s/2000’s based on your comments.

[pure olive]

I remember learning that most lcd monitors consume like 70w and being dumbpounded

[graceful burrow]

I had a plasma 55" 1080p TV and im
I mean this
We'd turn down the heating where we were living because of how fucking hot it got
Plasma fucking sucked

[pure olive]

akira having bad takes isn't uncommon

[polar fern]

And the magnetic thing just like crt

[neon mesa]

What was even her bad take???

[wind pulsar]

I have no idea why you're attacking me for no reason but you do you lmao

[pure olive]

saying im the dumbest in the server, behind jorj

[pure olive]

bwahaha

[neon mesa]

Considering now, seems true

[wind pulsar]

So when have I been last saying that

[neon mesa]

But at least jorj don't act smart

[wind pulsar]

Like, months ago? You good Cheese?

[pure olive]

i don't either >-<

[wind pulsar]

What a joke

[pure olive]

buy the new backpack from https://lttstore.com

[neon mesa]

If only windows phone didn't fail

[wind pulsar]

Mad about shit I haven't been saying for months because obviously you have been improving

Considering how dumb that shit was I might as well continue saying it, that attitude was dumb beyond comprehension

[polar fern]

Hacks pushing things into people for commission used to be a huge part of the retail industry

[wind pulsar]

I loved my Windows phone, I still have mine

[neon mesa]

But the point is, the prediction isn't a lie
It's a prediction

And it's a very valid one

[polar fern]

He wasn’t predicting, he was steering us to a product he gets commission on

[pure olive]

[polar fern]

They didn’t get commission on apple stuff

[neon mesa]

My asian mom throws it to the floor 10 years ago because i played a knockoff Minecraft too much

It broke to pieces

Well not pieces, still absolutely fucked

[polar fern]

You broke the window?

[neon mesa]

My mom broke the windows

[vapid zephyr]

Considering ye pissed about something that apparently happened months ago and she ain't been saying for months and herself even saying that ye've improved, ye might as well be the dumbest boi

[polar fern]

https://youtu.be/XcpJ7BhJgog

[pure olive]

yeah I am pretty dumb

left a really bad taste in my mouth when she said that tho

[wind pulsar]

Wtf is that weird laid-on accent

[vapid zephyr]

Then say that from the beginning instead of being a baby months later and attacking her for no reason mate lmfao

[restive ice]

https://i.gyazo.com/b17b173dadab22bc4c52727b25ecb90b.jpg
God dammit

[vapid zephyr]

Bruh can't even set the reply correctly kek

[pure olive]

what

[wind pulsar]

https://i.gyazo.com/b17b173dadab22bc4c52727b25ecb90b.jpg

[neon mesa]

Wut?

[wind pulsar]

Tagged the wrong person

[restive ice]

The fans

[neon mesa]

Ah yes the LTT CPU Cooler
The shitty deformed aluminum block

[vapid zephyr]

Didn't they specify it was copper

[restive ice]

It sure is a red neck (US)

[restive ice]

They chose theirs because it was copper

[pure olive]

usually car parts use aluminum, weird

(the cooling parts, such as heater core)

[neon mesa]

Oh wait it's a different one

[vapid zephyr]

Yeah, in car parts you don't really have a need to have them be copper

[neon mesa]

LTT tried making their own air cooler before IIRC

[vapid zephyr]

But copper was also stupid cheap back then, so they just slapped it on everything

[pure olive]

it's more effective for the radiator and such to be aluminum funny enough

[neon mesa]

https://youtu.be/vL72lQ6dRZU

[pure olive]

I'm surprised it performed as well as it did

[neon mesa]

They could have just made aluminium fins by cutting up an aluminum block instead of going for a cast tbh

[vapid zephyr]

It was very popular 20 years ago, I had no doubt in my mind that it would work

[pure olive]

just seems to me that it would have a LOT less surface area than even a very cheap cooler from today

[vapid zephyr]

You kinda want to get a copper heat core though, not even because aluminum shit and everything but because cpu blocks are just mostly copper nowadays

[neon mesa]

A cheap cooler from today is a pretty high standard though

[vapid zephyr]

Considering it was on par with an H150i, seems to be fine to me

[pure olive]

yeah for sake of compatability it makes sense they went for a copper heater core

[vapid zephyr]

No matter how shit the H150i is in comparison, it's still a 360mm cooler
Being on par with that thing with two fans is pretty sick

[pure olive]

yeah

[blazing sage]

Hi

[pure olive]

sup

[blazing sage]

How are you

[pure olive]

I'm super good today, how about you

[blazing sage]

I am okay

[night roost]

anyone wanna join 4 joun?

[heavy dust]

bro it’s gonna hit 55celsisu here

[fallen rover]

Here it's 14 celcius

[smoky elm]

is there a certian place on this discord for laptops?

disscusions?

[polar fern]

No

Try the forum

[smoky elm]

so if i were to ask about laptops it would b pointless on here

[polar fern]

No

But it’s a general topic channel

[smoky elm]

do i go to tech chat?

[polar fern]

Whatever you wanna do.

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-are-you-though-gif-20749694

[blazing sage]

I I am not okay I am struggling

[manic torrent]

Modern car parts, yes. copper is not generally used anymore.

[pure olive]

aluminum is cool

[manic torrent]

Like, basically at all except for wiring.

[vapid smelt]

aluminum taste good

[manic torrent]

Aluminum also doesn't corrode like copper

Copper is great for some thermal mass and for conduction, but the coolant gives you that in a car.

[polar fern]

Alu wiring is everywhere

Most high voltage lines are alu

[undone inlet]

Linux

Is cool

[median idol]

https://youtu.be/S8s9uzPIqQ4?si=Ag-3eLWmj9PUTnXL

[pure olive]

may i repost this

[median idol]

You have my approval

[patent fog]

What do the numbers mean in the corner that appears during the pre show in wan show? And how can the record be "8 minutes late" when Luke himself said something about being an hour and a half late?

[gilded quest]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

the count is simply time elapsed since WAN was scheduled to start

record of "8 minutes late" is probably record for least late show

[full fossil]

So does copper

[gilded quest]

so do coopas

[full fossil]

oh godd

The poor coopas

[vapid smelt]

[full fossil]

He is crying, look at his pfp

[patent fog]

But the wan show is scheduled for 1700, the current time shown in the corner was 1813, the top number was +0144, that does not make sense based on your explanation....

[gilded quest]

WAN used to be scheduled for 4:30pm PT

[pliant karma]

What is a scheduled WAN never has had one lol

[gilded quest]

but they were never gonna make 4:30 so they changed it to 5

[patent fog]

Oh

[pliant karma]

You know you're use to WAN never being ontime when you stop trusting 5pm PT

[full fossil]

I love his channel

[fallen rover]

I remember when I told my sister I watched WAN show. She thought it was a show where two guys would drive a van across the US visiting cool places like Niagra falls etc

[full fossil]

lol

[gilded quest]

this is probably a podcast already lol

[full fossil]

If it isn't then make it one

[fallen rover]

Would be cool to see Linus and Luke doing something like that

[gilded quest]

ehhhh

idk if they're the one's I want to narrate a road trip

Dan would be good
but who else

[fallen rover]

Idk I just always liked the Linus-Luke and Linus-Alex duos

[manic torrent]

fun video time with bob: bob updates his nvidia drivers so his frigate container works again so his cameras work

[undone inlet]

I put a big girthy scratch on my screen protector

[sand sleet]

Guys can you guess what gta 6 is gonna cost 💀

[vapid smelt]

69.99

[sand sleet]

2 billion, Rockstar is gonna have to cook

[undone inlet]

💀

[sand sleet]

The making price

[sand sleet]

It's official

[undone inlet]

Damn

[sand sleet]

Rockstar is gonna have to cook on this one

[undone inlet]

Gta 2 graphics

[sand sleet]

[undone inlet]

Even mario smash Bros have better graphics

Thats a old asf game

Rockstar is gonna nostar

[prime bough]

Guys I need your help unscrewing an old pc

[plush rivet]

How in the hell are we supposed to help that

[prime bough]

It keeps bootlooping

It's an old i3 2100

It won't even system reset 💀

[graceful burrow]

Lefty loosey righty tighty

[vapid smelt]

buy a lttstore.com screw driver

[blazing sage]

Heyyyy

[blazing sage]

https://www.lttstore.com/products/screwdriver

[elfin jetty]

i got the black shaft one a bit ago, i love it

[full fossil]

I miss evga :(

[wispy marsh]

[fierce moth]

G'day people

[wispy marsh]

Day

[neon mesa]

what's the difference between MP33 and MP33 Pro

[neon mesa]

so should i get the pro

[vapid smelt]

yeah its faster

[neon mesa]

how much more expensive for it to not be worth it?

would it be a bad buy if it's 10 bucks more than regular one

[gentle slate]

Yall what could cause localized pixelation on OBS?

[vapid smelt]

what other options do you have

[neon mesa]

MP33 is pretty much the only option at $45

well not really the ONLY option but the rest is shit

[gentle slate]

1080p60fps 12k bitrate, fast preset on the gpu encoder used to give pretty good results. But now there's pixelization around moving objects.

[neon mesa]

there's the PNY CS2241 but it's QLC ew

[hardy cobalt]

💀

[neon mesa]

there's an MSI Spatium M371 but idk about its performance and quality

and it's more expensive than the MP33

[vapid smelt]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit the master list

[limber fractal]

i need to replace the port on a micro usb cable

can u just cut it off another cable?

[graceful burrow]

Why not just get another cable

[cedar burrow]

hola gamers.

[graceful burrow]

Aloha

[cedar burrow]

como esta

[elder thorn]

Yo

[neon mesa]

unfortunate there's no IOPS information

[graceful burrow]

Every time I see or hear someone say como esta I think of the intro narration to the Barcelona level in Tony hawks underground 2

[cedar burrow]

omg I remember that 😂

[static veldt]

i have the smallest brain, ive been waiting for wan show thinking oh its friday (its legit 1:26 am so i mean its been friday for an hour and 26 minutes) not realizing its tmrw night

[neon mesa]

Adata legend 850 seems good
but with adata it seems too good to be true

could very much be another SX8200 Pro situation

[manic torrent]

on a cable? Just get a new cable?

[neon mesa]

@vapid smelt would you take the legend 850?
it seems like the best bang for the buck
but it seems to good to be true
it's the same price as the MP33 regular

i have trust issues with adata after the SX8200 thing

[limber fractal]

so basically i have a battery operated security camera and i have a solar panel that is always plugged in but the plug broke off and the cable is attached to the panel so the only option is to fix the cable

[manic torrent]

also: fuck yeah, I got vlc casting multiple cameras from frigate combined to chromecast on the TV in my office

[manic torrent]

oh, I'd piss off the micro USB altogether if possible and swap it for a barrel jack or something. microUSB is literally the worst.

[limber fractal]

the camera is micro sub 🤷‍♂️

[manic torrent]

(but to answer your question, yeah, you can absolutely graft on another cable)

[limber fractal]

it's not a problem for me i just have this camera in a remote spot and can monitor when needed

[vapid smelt]

hell yeah

[manic torrent]

yeah so you open up the camera and solder on a barrel jack plug

[neon mesa]

okay this is a really good deal then
the performance is bonker for 45 bucks
gonna replace my SN550 as the main drive

[manic torrent]

I would like a new SSD, but I actually don't really need more space. 2tb game SSD and 1tb OS/apps is heaps - particularly when I don't play that many games at a time, and with gigabit I can just download them again quickly

[neon mesa]

yeahhh now i'm kinda doubting the purchase
it is another SX8200

[neon mesa]

i'll need to check again which one is it

[sonic spruce]

anyone know how i can get an image of my discord avatar?

[grim cloud]

Take a screenshot

[elfin jetty]

not the only drive

[grim cloud]

Idk if this is appropriate for this discord.

[vapid smelt]

thighs>tiddies

[elfin jetty]

if this is here then i really dont think they'd care

[elfin jetty]

true true

[grim cloud]

Kk

[vapid smelt]

yeah its not like linus makes 69 jokes tiddies is totally to far

[neon mesa]

@vapid smelt is the difference between 850 lite and regular only the TBW?

[vapid smelt]

no clue

[neon mesa]

it seems identical according to the datasheet but i'm not sure

[elfin jetty]

I might need some more drives

[neon mesa]

only 450TBW on the 850 lite but eh i think i shouldn't worry about it

i only used 27TBW out of 600TBW on my SN550 over the past exactly 800 days lmao

at this rate it would take 36 years to fill out that 450TBW

[sonic spruce]

Anyone know a good YouTube downloader?

[vapid smelt]

youtube premuim

[sonic spruce]

I’m broke

[vapid smelt]

get a job

[manic torrent]

get more money

[sonic spruce]

Anyone know a good FREE YouTube downloader?

[neon mesa]

youtube premium with indian VPN for 1.5 buck
(wait is this against the piracy rule? this isn't really piracy)

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/premium

[sonic spruce]

Permanently free

[full fossil]

Hello

[dull granite]

addoncrop

[manic torrent]

the only way to be permanently free is to be eaten by bears

[neon mesa]

make new account every month for youtube premium family
then add your main acc to the family
but that shit is pain

[manic torrent]

yeah but if your time is worthless...

[neon mesa]

much easier to just put youtube prem on auto-pay

[sonic spruce]

I found one

[manic torrent]

There's a reason I have a jillion and one subscription services

[graceful burrow]

Don't come crying here when you brick your pc with free youtube download free online

[manic torrent]

free youtube download free online pro ultimate free is the best

[graceful burrow]

So true

[dull granite]

i hate gasoline

[graceful burrow]

So true

[manic torrent]

like... conceptually? to drink? to smell? as a fuel source?

[dull granite]

every

[vapid smelt]

how can you hate the smell of gasoline?

[dull granite]

i don't remember how it smells

[manic torrent]

there's also quite a few different types and they smell very different.

I forgot how low octane fuel smelled, because I don't use it.

[dull granite]

gasoline is part reason why world is on fire

[vapid smelt]

i buy and use 85 octane

[manic torrent]

I either use 98 RON (US 93 RON+MON) or E85

[manic torrent]

gasoline isn't the reason the world is on fire, people and capitalism is the reason the world is on fire.

[vapid smelt]

i blame the 2020 Australian wild fire

[manic torrent]

I blame obama. Thanks obama.

[pure olive]

I blame canada

idk why but i just do

[vapid smelt]

they sell allot of oil

[dull granite]

why

[manic torrent]

.... it was clearly a joke. "thanks obama" is a meme

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-politics-thanks-obama-gif-5262539

[dull granite]

thanks steve

hello mario

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-you-steve-steve-back-to-you-intel-gif-23042466

[pure olive]

Hello hardware Bob

[neon mesa]

ordered the 850 lite, should arrive in like an hour lel

[pure olive]

@manic torrent how are you this fine evening

[neon mesa]

i'm super impatient so i use instant shipping

[vapid smelt]

do you live in amazons parking lot?

[neon mesa]

nah i use some online shop everyone in my country use

[pure olive]

I had an excellent day

[neon mesa]

most of the sellers there are just pc shops on a computer mall (like the china one in linus video) which is not far from me

so shipment is zoom zoom if i use instant

it's a mega micro center
except prices are usually shittier than online

[manic torrent]

I don't know about fine, it's cold AF here! but you know, surviving as best I can in this ongoing hellscape

[pure olive]

I wish it was cold in America this time of year

I was working outside today in 106f

[neon mesa]

wait i actually took 3 hours just to replace a mobo

[vapid smelt]

did you tie your hands together?

[graceful burrow]

Trade ya

[pure olive]

Wanna trade

[neon mesa]

i think the long part is diagnosing why it didn't post

[graceful burrow]

We're about to hit mid-90's for a week straight

[pure olive]

I’ve had a heat warning for the past week and it’s extended to a week from now, all >105

[manic torrent]

eh, It's fine, that's what heaters are for 🙂

[vapid smelt]

same

[manic torrent]

also - just got a new electric blanket, with wifi control!

[pure olive]

Electric blankets are amazing

[graceful burrow]

Where

[pure olive]

Mine stopped working just at the end of winter last year

[pure olive]

Arizona

[manic torrent]

we had one before, but my side had died. The new one has a thick comfy cover, as well as wifi control and seperate body and feet zones

[graceful burrow]

Get well soon

[vapid smelt]

why do you need a heated blanket for 12c weather?

[pure olive]

And I’m having digestion problems so that makes it that much better

[graceful burrow]

Because the normal temp for them is much higher

[pure olive]

Australia is a strange, scary place

[manic torrent]

correct

[vapid smelt]

idk

[manic torrent]

average doesn't mean shit

also, sometimes it gets hot later etc, it's because of ocean currents and shit

[vapid smelt]

only 40c vs Utah's slc 41.66c

[neon mesa]

what disk cloner do people use?

[manic torrent]

Recorded extremes (From Melbourne Regional Office): Hottest temperature: 46.4 °C (115.5 °F), 7 February 2009

[neon mesa]

i don't wanna go through the bitch process of windows installation and since both is 1TB, cloning would be more easy

[manic torrent]

On that day I was out fighting fires

[pure olive]

Man some parts of arizonas normal summer temp is higher than australias highest ever recorded temp

[pine haven]

You guys don't get 50 C weather? How lucky

[vapid smelt]

yeah we dont live in hell

[pure olive]

I used to live in a town where 120f was a normal occurrence

[neon mesa]

it's regularly 30C or lower where i am

though i got AC set at 24C usually

[pine haven]

In the summer it peaks to 50 Celcius where I live

[pure olive]

You live in Utah instead, worse punishment

[graceful burrow]

I'd just leave
Literally I'd just go somewhere else

[vapid smelt]

24?! we set ours to 20

[neon mesa]

i used to easily live on 10C back when i live in the netherlands but i adapted to tropical climate and now shiver at 22C

[vapid smelt]

shiver at room temperature

[neon mesa]

eh depends on my body's mood also

sometimes i shiver like crazy on 24C
other times i need 16C to feel cool

[fierce moth]

if i have the heater on its at 30c

[vapid smelt]

you need to see a doctor

[fierce moth]

nah

it doesnt even reach 30c

as most heaters/ac's are rated to increase/decrease temperatures upto 10c+-

[vapid smelt]

still you can never be too safe

[manic torrent]

(cleaners came today and had the door open)

[fierce moth]

i gotta get a thermostat

but i dont think it would be worth it

[full fossil]

is that supposed to be hot or something

it looks cold to me

its reaching 40c here and they're making a pool

[fierce moth]

It's winter rn in Australia

[manic torrent]

yeah.... it's winter.

[full fossil]

makes sense

[manic torrent]

that is the inside temperature. The purple line is the target, blue line is actual, and orange sections is heater on.