public-chat

[woeful nexus]

When the LTT viewer base finally ages enough to need a nursing home, sure why not

"This laptop doesn't have enough thermal headroom. Unlike our LTT adult diapers, which have plenty of room! lttstore.gov"

[fierce moth]

I want a ltt soldering iron

[woeful nexus]

I imagine it would be a liability nightmare that LMG really doesn't want to take on

[silk wolf]

doesn't mean he can't make a diaper bag. 😛

[dreamy rose]

he only makes stuff he would actually use.

[woeful nexus]

ROASTED

[vivid sparrow]

i would just like a european LTT store, so they can save on shipping by sending containers full of stuff instead of seperate packages

[silk wolf]

WOULD being the operative word. it was a statement about standing by quality.

[copper smelt]

No not allowed

[silk wolf]

linus doens't use bras afterall.

[copper smelt]

You chose to be european, pay the price

[graceful burrow]

Seems perfect for him then

[woeful nexus]

Not true. https://youtu.be/TkF_OiBvnLg

[fierce moth]

i got warshipped

[copper smelt]

Literally 1984

[silk wolf]

that isn't proof that he DOES. i used the current active tense not the past tense.

still funny

[woeful nexus]

heh

[copper smelt]

Nerd

[dreamy rose]

maybe not Linus, but Yvonne tho.

[vivid sparrow]

wait whuuut? hahahah
That is seriously the most weird argument. Even worse than flat earthers arguments hahahaha

[copper smelt]

Sucks to suck shouldve chosen to be american

[silk wolf]

he was quite clear that that statement was abut quality. he's willing ot make products that he won't use if they are of a quality he WOULD use.

[dreamy rose]

sucks to be european. but be glad you arent Australian. we get fuckin SCREWED. Hard

[silk wolf]

pretty ssure it's not worse than that since you can in fact choose to emigrate.

[vivid sparrow]

we should all be in a global nation >:) one government 😛

[dreamy rose]

AUD FUCKING STINKS.

[copper smelt]

Nuh uh

France does tho

[silk wolf]

name one government in place today you would trust to manage a globe.

[vivid sparrow]

that doesn't make me canadian or american. it would make me an expat. nothing more

[woeful nexus]

We kind of forget that LTT is still a small-medium business. Having a dedicated European store is a rather expensive endavour, I'm fairly sure

[vivid sparrow]

ha, somebody got the fun part 😄

[silk wolf]

ok what he was saying is you choose to reside in the EU, not you chose to be born in the EU... i know it's hard to realize that not everyone speaks just like you.

[copper smelt]

Me

Just me nobody else maybe castro

[dreamy rose]

valve is the exact opposite. WHERES OUR FUCKING STEAM DECKS VALVE PLZ FIX! i hate it here we never get the cool stuff

[vivid sparrow]

could be in a warehouse where they already orderpick. Would just be orderforms and cardboard boxes and another trolley to get them to the mailcompany

[dreamy rose]

we cant have Holden anymore. we have no cool stuff.

[cursive skiff]

Au be like first time

[vivid sparrow]

thinking moving countrys for mech is realistic is kinda weird either way

[woeful nexus]

Idk much about Valve's finances, but as far as shipping hardware goes, do they really have the kind of logistical infrastructure that a vendor like say, Asus (cuz ROG Ally) has to be able to efficiently ship hardware?

[dreamy rose]

they are Shipping the Index.

[woeful nexus]

That is true, yeah

[silk wolf]

hey if you guys were setting up a KVM driven battlestation with all 3 major platofrms, would you route the sound through a sound mixxer, use separate speakers, or let the kvm manage sound?

[gentle slate]

english?

[dreamy rose]

yeah its Exclusive to EB Games, they ARE doing it tho.

[silk wolf]

for mech? if i move i can get a mech? sign me up! i want gundam wing!

[woeful nexus]

Are the audio interfaces on a KVM analogue or digital?

[copper smelt]

No hablo ingles señora

[silk wolf]

passthrough 3mm

don't think many kvms are gonna have adcs/dacs...so i'm not sure why you asked that.

[vivid sparrow]

i hate autocorrecting words, but can't seem to turn it off somehow (meant merch ofcourse lol)

[woeful nexus]

I don't know a lot about KVMs!

[dreamy rose]

ahziss don't pur english urada

[woeful nexus]

If the isolation and stuff on the KVM passthrough is decent, why not use it?

[manic torrent]

I have a similar issue, and I use linux as a sound router, running pipewire. I use VBAN from voicemeeter, or SPDIF interfaces for the audio

[silk wolf]

ahh lolz. i link loonus has like 10 videos that cover kvms. maybe more if you include the server maintainance ones.

[woeful nexus]

Or what about say one of those new fancy bluetooth headphones that can connect to multiple devices at once

[manic torrent]

like this

[gentle slate]

wat

[silk wolf]

only issue with routing through one of hte machines is if you have to reboot then there goes your youtube on all 3 machines. 😛

is that a pi pico?

[gentle slate]

dont reboot it

[manic torrent]

yeah, but it runs on my server - that was the problem I was solving.

[woeful nexus]

That's so epic! Does the SPDIF not limit the audio to just dolby digital, though?

[manic torrent]

Those are teensy 4.1s - unfortunately that doesn't work yet, becauser UAC2 sucks

[manic torrent]

I limit it to 2ch on spdif, I am using VBAN for surround.

[gentle slate]

can you explain in minecraft terms what that does

[manic torrent]

sound go brrrr

[silk wolf]

even servers need occasional downtime. that's why they suggest you have more than one shelf.

[gentle slate]

they dont deserve downtime

[vivid sparrow]

why are you making this setup so complicated? (just curious)

[gentle slate]

work them to death.

[manic torrent]

I mean, sure, but in normal usage it is on all the time

[primal gorge]

If I had a nickel for every time I sold a random stranger something on LTTstore.com, id have 1 nickel, which isn't a lot, but it's strange that it's happened

[manic torrent]

because if it's not broken, fix it 'til it is.

[gentle slate]

the moment I get my grubby paws on a NAS, that thing will not be allowed to rest only 1 hour every 10 years.

[woeful nexus]

Love the setup. Pipewire has demonstrated itself as a great audio server in such a short amount of time, it's fascinating

[vivid sparrow]

i can do that with way less hardware 😛

[copper smelt]

You wouldve been a good slave owner

[silk wolf]

see one of the thing i love about having multiple workstations is that even on the occassion where i'm doing a full image i'll have a machine up that can do youtubing during it. 😛

[summer folio]

1337 EU!

[gentle slate]

im still confused on what this stuff accomplishes. Does it sync the audio between every single device

[manic torrent]

my server isn't a workstation though - it provides services.

[manic torrent]

I can route audio and video to/from basically all of my devices

[silk wolf]

yes but when you run maint you're down all your sound?

[copper smelt]

Who here using voicemeeter

[gentle slate]

oh

[copper smelt]

I might be able to help

[gentle slate]

ok im done questioning why.

[manic torrent]

.... what am I maintaining on my server?

[gentle slate]

youve got a use for it and it works. All is good.

[woeful nexus]

Maybe some day I'll get enough time to hack on pipewire so that it can speak VBAN

[manic torrent]

can you? possibly. but for how much?

also - I doubt it, because routing surround is a huge huge pain

[silk wolf]

have you ever watched LTT videos? servers may be "constant run" but that doesnt' mean maintaniance free without hardware failure/upgrades

[copper smelt]

Its not as difficult as ppl think but idk wtf yall doin in that ss

[manic torrent]

I literally have worked as a sysadmin for over 25 years

[woeful nexus]

The kind of workload LTT's servers face is very different from what HardwareBob is doing

[manic torrent]

... why? vban_receptor already speaks to pipewire

[woeful nexus]

@manic torrent I imagine your server is mostly stateless?

[copper smelt]

Cap show me your ID card

[silk wolf]

just because you work less doesn't mean that parts that are waranteed for 5 years are magically gonna run uninterupted for 100 years.

[vivid sparrow]

just said i can fix it till it is broken with less hardware 😛

[woeful nexus]

Isn't it through pipewire-pulse?

[blazing lily]

DANTE has entered the chat

[woeful nexus]

Huh. TIL

[silk wolf]

failing to see how that means his server wont ever need downtime/maintanaince.

[vivid sparrow]

but for audio, routing, i rather use analog.
By using an audio matrix i can route everything everywhere.
But once i had an install that was quite complicated and could route everything everywhere. These days i just adjust a cable as i realized i almost never useit

[woeful nexus]

I imagine an argument against analog only is that is restricts formats and fidelity right out of the gate, and doesn't let you exploit better DACs down the chain?

[manic torrent]

There's a huuuuuuge difference between "not ever" and "barely ever" - and it's not like I'm producing a live TV broadcast that MUST keep going

[blazing lily]

when you've routed audio with a DANTE system it all changes it's sooo good lol

[manic torrent]

yep. I try to keep it digital as much as possible until the end

[fierce moth]

thanks for reminding me to update my server lol

[manic torrent]

oh, for sure, but my system is significantly cheaper 😄

[silk wolf]

my comment was merely that i like the adaptability that no cercumstance ever means all of my machines are down. i've got effective redundancy. to that you replied asking what you'd ever maintain.

[woeful nexus]

How much does it add to your bandwidth costs?

If any

[manic torrent]

huh? what bandwidth costs

[woeful nexus]

nvm, brain fart

[manic torrent]

yeah but what am I losing? it's not like I can't use my laptop

[sick coral]

looking for a mini-tower case that can support full-sized gpus, psu, and atx motherboards, kind of like the q500L but with acceptable thermals, any case fit this description?

[gentle slate]

oh wait nevermind I figured out why RDP wont work.

[silk wolf]

ahh there's the difference between us. as it is now i'm strictly battlestation. laptops are pain because i loose the extra monitors. 😛

[gentle slate]

Wonderful port forwarding. Since my dogshit ISP doesnt give acecss to the router I cant port forward.

[manic torrent]

oh no you don't. I have serial controlled KVMs for my secondary monitors, and it runs through an egpu for those over thunderbolt.

[gentle slate]

ill just.. install teamviewer

[silk wolf]

... isn't the point of a laptop that you're portable? 😛

[vocal cobalt]

hello there

[manic torrent]

there's nothing stopping me from unplugging it

it's the best of both worlds, much like hannah montana.

I have more USB cables and HDMI cables than some computer stores.

[silk wolf]

k so what i said is that laptops are pain for me because you loose the extra monitors. the implication being that while maybe yes you can hook it up to your kvm that doesn't mean that you would always use it there or why wouldn't you just get a workstation... 😛

[sick coral]

?

[manic torrent]

I have a workstation as well

[silk wolf]

...are you deliberatley misinterpreting what i'm saying?

[full fossil]

Don’t cross post, and cardboard box is good.

[fossil frost]

yellow

[manic torrent]

I mean, you're telling me that somehow using my server is a bad idea for routing audio because it might need to get rebooted occasionally

[gentle slate]

dont reboot it ez

[silk wolf]

point me where i said it's a bad idea...i said it's not for me... JFC you really are doing it on purpose to troll me arent you?

[manic torrent]

cardboard case best case

[full fossil]

Yes

[gentle slate]

I dropped my PC down the stairs and now the side panel wont fit

[blazing lily]

this server is kinda like that tbh

[full fossil]

How….

[sick coral]

dont tell me what to do. any real reccomendations?

[gentle slate]

I lost grip

[full fossil]

no

[blazing lily]

ye stick your PC parts in a cardboard box bro

[silk wolf]

i actually built a pc in a cardboard box when i was younger.

[fierce moth]

cardboard box mate

[blazing lily]

dOnT TeLL mE WhAt To DO

[silk wolf]

found a tv repair store that was illegally dumping comuter parts in the city waste. so i salvaged it and builtcomputers. but cases seldom found their way there.

[full fossil]

Damn

[manic torrent]

on reality?

[full fossil]

That’s why I love handles on pcs

[gentle slate]

no on the pc

[fierce moth]

i love the handle on my gamecube

[manic torrent]

sounds like you need a PC crane my friend

[silk wolf]

i removed mine while installing the modchips.

[gentle slate]

fr

[fierce moth]

Curse you!

[gentle slate]

the pc is like.. 19kg.

[sick coral]

im not putting this thing inside a cardboard box i need to move it across countries soon without it breaking

[silk wolf]

3d print a case?

[blazing lily]

put it in two cardboard boxes mate

[gentle slate]

cardboard box with bubblewrap

[fierce moth]

maybe some respect will get you real answers

[blazing lily]

hey fuck you guys btw help me build a pc ye??

[full fossil]

Lots of bubble wrap

[gentle slate]

7700 or 7800x3d

[silk wolf]

real answer: if it's jsut that the side panel won't stay on... so? packaging tape...or possibly a mallet and some blunters and shapers.

[manic torrent]

expanding foam

[fierce moth]

but a gamecube without the handle is literally a cube that can play games while with the handle its a gamecube

[sick coral]

i understand but its a bit hard when you tell me to put my computer inside a fuking cardboard box

[blazing lily]

when i moved i carried my motherboard on a plane in a backpack lmao

[full fossil]

Ohhh that’s the best one

[blazing lily]

just strip the PC to parts and carry them it's not hard dude

buy new case and PSU when u arrived

[full fossil]

Oh well

[manic torrent]

I mean, it legit solves the problem, AND it's amazingly stupid 😄

[sick coral]

i do still need a new case regardless, my evolv x is almost broken

[full fossil]

yes

[blazing lily]

buy it after you move

[gentle slate]

weld it

[full fossil]

I mean you can make one if you can weld

[gentle slate]

so 7700 or 7800x3d

[sick coral]

and if i cant weld?

[fierce moth]

tough

[full fossil]

Take a class

[blazing lily]

skill issue

[sick coral]

cant i just like buy a case off of newegg or smthn

[full fossil]

What you think

[fierce moth]

nah nah, 3d print a case

or get one from aliexpress lmao

[silk wolf]

so i've never used dp cables before. there's not a direction on dp2dp right?

[fierce moth]

shouldnt be

unless its an active cable

[blazing lily]

dont tell him what to do

[gentle slate]

i mounted my pc to my desk

[silk wolf]

are dp2dp likely to be active? i know that dp2hdmi and hdmi2dp have to be active but dp2dp?

[gentle slate]

dp2dp sounds like a cable

[fierce moth]

not as far as ik

[fossil frost]

bob... please weigh in on how you took this sort of thing to excess 😄

[fierce moth]

i mean you could try both ways

[silk wolf]

indeed it is.

[silk wolf]

ya'll see the video of the guy who made the cleaner than linus desk setup?

[manic torrent]

No, there is no 'active' DP cable as such.

[silk wolf]

hasn't linus said there are some but that they are for extra long runs where you use fiber?

[manic torrent]

yes - but it's not a standard DP cable. DP spec is for a cable with no active compoments

the active cables you're talking about there are primarily converters.

[fierce moth]

I have a job interview next Tuesday

Wish me luck lads

[manic torrent]

Good luck!

[silk wolf]

so if the cables don't work they are very likely to work the other way around then, aye?

[fierce moth]

Thanks brother

If this goes well I'll hopefully be a electrical apprentice

[manic torrent]

very unlikely, yes. DP is similar to HDMI in that you can have a cable which sort of kind of works. Best to get a high quality cable to be sure.

[silk wolf]

ver unlikely* yes sorry for typo

[fierce moth]

Man I wanna mod my gamecube with a gcdual so I can get component out without the expensive official cable, with hdmi as a bonus

[silk wolf]

why doncha?

[gentle slate]

Even TeamViewer doesn't work normally.

Cba 🗿

[fierce moth]

It's like 200 aud to get

I'm certainly capable of soldering it in its just expensive to get

Cause it uses fpga tech

[silk wolf]

find 3-5 people who want the mod in your area. offer to do it for the cost of parts plus their share of buying yours. 😛

i've funded so many console mods and repairs doing that.

bonus you usually can get a discount for buying multiple parts at once.

[fierce moth]

Ik like 1 person who has a gamecube in my area

And it was one of my teachers lol

[silk wolf]

hop on your city's reddit, swing by the local magic the gathering spot, hit up the gamestop. you'll find people who need modding services pretty quick.

[fierce moth]

Lol gamestop don't exist here

[silk wolf]

my point was wherever people do their preordering.

[fierce moth]

Yeah I get what ya mean

[silk wolf]

trust me i live in the mt rushmore state. there's few places harder to find people needing modding services than south dakota. 😛

i mean most of our own country thinks we're a state of amish people.

[fierce moth]

My city's subreddit doesn't allow selling/buying posts

[silk wolf]

who said to buy sell?

say "hey i'm holding a smash tourney, come on over to {local venu you can get some space at free} and play with me!"

once you've made some friends who like the classics you can drop a hint that you'r lookin to do some mods and they just gotta pay for parts plus a bit and you can do it for them. 😛

bonus points you now have more friends who liek the classics.

[fierce moth]

Wait wait, I'll post an ad on fb market place

[silk wolf]

ok i'm a boomer(not actually, late stage gen x)...but isn't fb just for old people?

[fierce moth]

Facebook marketplace is just a Facebook version of Craigslist or gumtree

[silk wolf]

but yeah gorilla marketing is an insanely good way to get into doing niche jobs like console modding.

[manic torrent]

guerilla 🙂 (I mean, unless you're physically intimidating them)

[silk wolf]

yes that.

sorry dislexic.

[fierce moth]

Ez done

Also this give me something to do while I wait on job shit as I finished high school a couple of months ago

[manic torrent]

I made this today

[silk wolf]

suggest some possible mods because not everyone is in the know. "i can install a custom case with custom buttons, i can install an hdmi mod, i can convert your gba to a console. i can fix your broken screen. i can install a more powrful speaker. i can get it ready to run homebrew." stuff like that

[fierce moth]

thanks brother

If this successful I can turn this into a good side gig

And my mate just said I'm gonna end up like Gary bowser 💀

[sand sleet]

Sooo I found this PC for 200 dollars, it's
Ryzen 7 1700X
Rx 580 8gb sapphire nitro
8 gigs of ram
Cooler master 450 watt psu,
B350 ,
It was all priced at 180، is it decent for that price? I'm trying to run some esport titles like, fortnite,cs go,valorant,fall guys, and some triple A like fnaf security breach,resident evil,God of war

[gritty minnow]

Haggle to 150

Never pay the first price

[gentle slate]

that pc sounds ancient ngl

[vocal cobalt]

Good deal honestly, just lower the price down a bit

[elder thorn]

yo

[dreamy rose]

so the R5 7520U is actually capable of DDR5 and uses RX 610M iGPUs? i thought it was just a high end 4000 chip renamed. this is actually pretty cool. Zen 3 and RDNA 3.5 are gonna slap for Cheap laptops.

[dreamy rose]

i only figured this out cause of the cheapest OLED Laptop.

[terse arch]

7x20u series are the budget lineup, with zen 2 and 2cu rdna2

[woeful nexus]

is that the Shortcircuit vid?

[dreamy rose]

yeah. a shitter steam deck. 1/2 Core count and 1/4 CU count iirc the Steam Deck is 8C Zen 2 and 8 CU RDNA 2

[dreamy rose]

Dawid's video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0HEcTU1azA

[terse arch]

Steam deck is 4c zen 2 btw

[dreamy rose]

its only a 4c?

[woeful nexus]

Oh, I have this exact laptop :D

Just that this one is with a R7 5800H and a RTX 3050 mobile

[dreamy rose]

Good?

[woeful nexus]

I use with Arch (btw) as a dev machine, and it does a reasonably good job. I upgraded the SSD from a 500 gigs WD DRAMless thing to a 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus. You can also play around with the thermal/power limits for the Ryzen to squeeze more juice out of this thing

But yeah, as the video notes, the soldered RAM is a bummer. Really wanted to upgrade to 32 gigs down the line :(

[dreamy rose]

also, here is a Theory.

[woeful nexus]

I switched to this from an i9 2019 Intel MacBook, which was awful in every conceivable way because of how little thermal headroom it had

[dreamy rose]

Strix Halo is a test for the idea of moving away from Laptop DGPUs and instead making Monster APUs. why else would the make a 16C 32T chip with the same CU count as a high end dGPU from last gen?

[woeful nexus]

And given my workload

[dreamy rose]

if everything goes to plan, they get a massive efficiency boost with Gaming on battery. something Nvidia wont be able to touch

[vocal cobalt]

The stereotype of everyone that uses arch always mentioning that they use arch is true

[woeful nexus]

I'm really really interested in seeing what a honest to goodness, decently powered unified architecture will bring to the table

[dreamy rose]

only problem would be the inability to use Nvidia stuff with Ryzen. and at that point are you really caring for Nvidia if Radeon is really good?

[woeful nexus]

Currently APUs are limited to around accessing around 512 MBs of RAM, right?

[dreamy rose]

integrated graphics can use up to 8GB max AFAIK

[woeful nexus]

Not an architecture expert, but this might be true given AMD's work on heterogenous compute as well

Although ROCm doesn't support APU's officially, a really powerful APU could be what it's waiting for

[dreamy rose]

the idea of strix halo would be that they havre VRAM on Die and then connect to system ram. as far as i can figure out that Slide from MLID

[woeful nexus]

Ah, so it's not unified memory?

[dreamy rose]

probably could only be using the RAM baked on the Chip. or that could be VRAM.

[woeful nexus]

Well, baked in RAM would kinda suck for upgradability, unless they plan on adding support for add-in memory

[dreamy rose]

never really been said which was which. bur VRAM on chip then System RAM outside kinda makes the most sense here

[woeful nexus]

But I imagine that would also increase latency, which defeats the whole point, right

[manic torrent]

it's an APU, upgradeability really isn't a primary consideration

[pulsar hemlock]

im supposed to be teaching an unreal engine lesson right now, my manager hasn't made a me a host on zoom and wont reply to my messages, my managers manager wont reply and neither will the CEO

[woeful nexus]

Fair

[pulsar hemlock]

this isn't my fault, right?

[woeful nexus]

most competent manager

[dreamy rose]

and again, remember this IS a 40CU iGPU we are talking about.

[pulsar hemlock]

he's literally a lecturer at a university in my country, i dont understand how he didn't see this

[dreamy rose]

if it was only baked in it better be a high capacity like 32GB or something

[pulsar hemlock]

for comp sci*

[woeful nexus]

academia
absent minded

totally checks out

[dreamy rose]

maybe 24 IF they could get away with it

[woeful nexus]

they're not called managers because they manage you. they're called managers because they make everyone else in the team manage them

(/s)

[pulsar hemlock]

lmfao its annoying, right he's completely fucked up my whole work day, emailed all my students saying that they've finished the course when they still have 1 more lesson so i only had 1 student all day who actually replied to my message, now this

[woeful nexus]

(but also partially true)

[woeful nexus]

lol, average professor hahahaha

[pulsar hemlock]

i mean im not complaining i sat in the classes waiting so i get the hour of pay for all 5 lessons when i only taught 1 student for an hour

at £15 an hour his ignorance pays well

but still its annoying, i prepared many lessons today and they're useless now

[woeful nexus]

That's true, but if you're building something that's supposed to be powerful, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume your customers are of the kind that value upgradability? @dreamy rose

[dreamy rose]

i'm honestly just interested to see how AMD is gonna push this thing. maybe its not gonna be the huge revolution i hope it is. maybe it will and Nvidia is gonna be embarrased by the laptop space?

[woeful nexus]

My lack of knowledge on architecture design also does make me think whether a unified/on-die architecture inherently sacrifices upgradibility

[dreamy rose]

yeah well assuming you are gonna be able to throw in seperate System RAM, theres no problem sicne you cant upgrade VRAM anyway right?

[woeful nexus]

maybe they'll also include lower-latency interconnects for that purpose? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dreamy rose]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614944188836085802/1129780125165174826/csm_amd_zen_5_strix_point_strix_halo_leak_1_6f9e0e0922.png

heres the slide see what you can find of it.

[woeful nexus]

Kinda like CXL, which apparently lets you plug in a new memory controller and DRAM on a physical PCIe interface

[dreamy rose]

what so they'd throw the LPDDR5X into Regular Strix right? for VRAM?

[woeful nexus]

I mean, if you're going dedicated VRAM, I guess they'd go with GDDR right

Oh wait, it literally says 256 bit LPDDR5X on the strix halo diagram

[dreamy rose]

this actually sloves the problem of the physical distance between the RAM sticks and the APU. cause RAM gets fast enough that traveling cause latency, which is terrible for GPUS

if its all on die its not gonna matter

[woeful nexus]

So that memory is only for the graphics die?

[dreamy rose]

you'd think so too right? but isnt that what HBM is?

[woeful nexus]

Hm

[dreamy rose]

i'd assume so. unless they decide thats not the case. though if strix is doing it too i think its unlikely that that would be system memory

[woeful nexus]

Apple also does use LPDDR4X for the unified memory on its M1 chips, sooooo

and LPDDR5 for the M2

[dreamy rose]

hah then thats even better. cause this is like a M series competitor.

MLID said m1 line specifically iirc.

[woeful nexus]

I kind of want it to be a unified memory thing for both the CPU and GPU, even if that hampers upgradability the potential for heterogenous compute is immense

No more CPU-bound games (in theory)!

[full fossil]

I found out about something funny

[dreamy rose]

it'd require at least 32GB minimum for the high end SKU tho.

[woeful nexus]

Definitely

[dreamy rose]

throwing in 48 tho. that works.

works out to 16GB for 8800M and 32 for system RAM

would be a 8955HX probably

[woeful nexus]

I'm not discounting a new transport/interconnect for adding additional memory to an external memory controller though. There are some architectures where you have an additional hierarchy of external fast random-access memory after the in-die memory

[dreamy rose]

i don't see them bundling in so much LPDDR5X tho. i don't think its entirely possible just yet.

[woeful nexus]

tiered RAM? sign me UP

Oh wait, that's EXACTLY what CXL does: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361162182/figure/fig1/AS:1164536778358786@1654658612492/Different-tiers-has-different-characteristics-with-varied-memory-access-latency-in-a.png

[dreamy rose]

again people would scream about there being no upgradeable RAM. it'd be a better look if they did it that way too. keeps them happy

[woeful nexus]

But then CXL has mostly been an enterprise standard, and I don't know if there has been any rumblings in the industry to bring it to retail consumers.

[dreamy rose]

would make the chip less expensive.

[woeful nexus]

All the Apple silicon macs do exactly that, I believe

[dreamy rose]

a whole 48GB of LPDDR5X?

[woeful nexus]

128!

[dreamy rose]

doesnt the top one do 192?

[woeful nexus]

Oh damn, right

https://images.macrumors.com/t/YlQ8HZUnRvU3M3iTtrxxVf-3xdc=/1600x0/article-new/2013/09/m1-chip-unified-memory-architecture-speed.jpg this is what the M2 looks like

[dreamy rose]

and the Macs that go that high arent exactly really a good example cause those are locked to desktop macs.

[woeful nexus]

Hm, right. The macbook pro only goes up to 32 gigs

[broken folio]

Yes, top spec Mac Studio does 192Gb RAM

[woeful nexus]

But that might be a thermal thing? idk

[dreamy rose]

these are laptop chips we are talking about. the price would be really high and the power draw stays at 120W

the Mac goes up to 300+

[woeful nexus]

I remember the Intel Macbooks would offer up to 64 gigs on RAM, maybe it is about some constraits of the on-die model that really to limit their RAM offerings on the laptop to 32 gigs

Also, interesting that there's MIPI connectivity thing, apparently they're also going for a good camera experience on their laptops?

[dreamy rose]

might be just their architecture stuff. or space constraints. this Halo is NOT designed to be a drop in for existing chasis either.

[woeful nexus]

True, plus this still x86, where squeezing the most out of every watt still remains a challenge compared to ARM

[dreamy rose]

its far better than having two whole dies to deal with. and it goes down to 25W. as opposed to either dies dropping to like 15 each or smth like that.

[woeful nexus]

Hopefully the drivers and SDKs get it right, and portability wouldn't be a problem

[dreamy rose]

i'd assume they'd get them right the first time. its in regular Strix too.

[woeful nexus]

🤞

[dreamy rose]

RDNA 3.5 is a "Fixed" version and has general improvements added too. Drivers should be pretty simple since its 3 with upgraded shit.

just Fixing up the mess thats RDNA 3 is the tricky part.

honestly i think it'd be really fun to see Mobile Radeon flying off of shelves and overpriced nvidia garbo sit there cause Nvidia cant compete with Efficiency.

if you want highest performance possible? happy to suck down 300+ watts? go for Nvidia/Intel. if not AMD.

or what if intel went this route too? where does that leave poor nvidia who cant make 60+% margins on laptop chips or something like that.

[woeful nexus]

Intel's work on Adamantine could also be aiming to achieve similar goals

Isn't Meteor Lake trying to do something similar?

[dreamy rose]

unless Nvidia enters x86 they might have to call it quits on the laptop space if they do this.

hell, SIs are already ditching the 60 class chips for igpus as MLID was told

[woeful nexus]

Nvidia is quite happy sitting on their big pile of GPGPU money atm, heh

[dreamy rose]

INTEL iGPUs. not AMD.

that shit can only be battling Vega, Intel is far behind AMD. AMD is punching the 1650 and 1060 RN

soon VR Capable iGPUs will exist and it will be going crazy on Deckard.

i like the name Deckard i hope they keep it and don't call it something stupid like Index 2

take the codename for Steam OS 3 (Holo) and throw on the fact that Deckard is planned to run it, you get HoloDeck, or HoloDeckard

[manic torrent]

half life 3 confirmed.

[merry gull]

VR support?

[neon mesa]

we already have "VR capable" iGPUs on Quests

plus, we won't have actual PCVR level VR on iGPU ANYTIME soon

deckard will run on reduced resolution and or graphics when standalone

also the 780m is still nowhere a desktop 1060

it only reaches 1650 laptop

even then with couple asterisks

these iGPUs are good, but you really overly exaggerate them

even my 3060 struggle on VR
and it has 12GB of VRAM and 2.5x performance of a 1650

[polar fern]

Oh no… 🤣

[naive lynx]

it's just twitter

[iron hatch]

do any of you guys know where to find airpod resellers?

[jaunty compass]

Better igpus is better for everyone I'd say

They've gotten really good the past couple of years

[modest sierra]

This y u use threads

[foggy spear]

Does anyone have any suggestions for a floor stand that I can place behind my desk for a monitor?

[wise tundra]

If you have a lower resolution display, it needs to be smaller or farther away for it to stay "retina", right? I was looking at these websites that tell how far away you need to be from your TV but I'm pretty sure those are for 4K TVs. I'm mostly watching 1080p material so I was wondering how should I try to figure out how small should the TV be? (I want to get a smaller TV instead cause they're way cheaper, but want to figure out what size should it be)

The sites that are pretty likely ment for 4K suggest I'd need a 95-98" TV

[ionic abyss]

depends on feature set you want for stan

stands can have monitor arms or be basic

new or used

new id stay with main retailers

[sick coral]

anybody has that chart that shows which fan is best for which case

[sand sleet]

Guys I got a question

[sick coral]

dont ask to ask

[ionic abyss]

lol

[sand sleet]

Is xeon 5680X
Asus 58X rapage formula 3 motherboard
Good for 100 dollar

[ionic abyss]

and fans its more a matter of static preasure or airflow

[sand sleet]

Pls answer 😭

[ionic abyss]

you need to pick one

[sand sleet]

Wdym

[sick coral]

i dont know much about xeons

[ionic abyss]

fans are designed for either static preasure or airflow

and what case are you planning on using

[sick coral]

lian li O11 AIR MINI

[ionic abyss]

looks like it supports 4 120mm fans

3*

and a 360 rad mabey

but i aint sure if the top has fan mounting

[summer folio]

Who is Mark Robber?

More real content guys, more pink laptop video!

[ionic abyss]

such a small case why

[sick coral]

im going air only

[ionic abyss]

hmm

[sick coral]

i wont have much space in my new apartment

[ionic abyss]

2x140mm and 1 120m

likely stick with the included fans

[sick coral]

but i already have a 9900k on a full atx z390 board and getting an matx version of those of those is baisically impossible

so i have to resort to mounting the psu in a wierd position

it was either this or the q500l and the latter has terrible performance

[sand sleet]

That xeon is 6 cores 12 threads with up to 3.8 core speed

I heard that motherboard is sooo rare, like anyone would buy it for 500 dollars

[ionic abyss]

your good for a nh d15

or a be quiet dark rock II

[sick coral]

ive heard noctua is overpriced

[sand sleet]

How about this one
Xeon x5650,8 gb ram,rx 500 watt psu,rx 570, for only 130 dollars?

[sick coral]

for cpu cooler im going thermalright assasian

[sand sleet]

Bro I'm new to PC gaming and I want a decent cheap PC 😭

[ionic abyss]

93 for brown cream noctua

[sand sleet]

150~

[sick coral]

wait until you have more money

[ionic abyss]

lol good luck

[sick coral]

150$ is only enough for a motherboard and ram, getting a cpu and a gpu will drive that cost up to at least 400$

[ionic abyss]

looking

no luck on pcs for people

[sick coral]

if you dont mind going used you can get an old (up to 5 years old) dell optiplex and throw in a gtx 1070 but otherwise i wouldnt try to do it

[ionic abyss]

nothing worth buying\

[pliant karma]

I use to collect optiplexes and flip them

[ionic abyss]

https://computers.woot.com/offers/150-mystery-desktop-2?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_4_3

i cant find better without some looking

and if you try good luck

[pliant karma]

I still have one optiplex chassy I painted to look like Bemo that at some point I might turn it into a sleeper build

[ionic abyss]

reasonable rig for the price

[pliant karma]

Though I would have to mod the power switch and front io on that specific optiplex chassy

[sick coral]

there are companies that do that officially now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8snwlE93aE

[pliant karma]

since they're not really standard across the older optiplex line

[tardy kite]

Brooo i need help with my pc

It keeps boot looping idk wtf to do

[sick coral]

try reseating the ram

[pliant karma]

ye I know lol last optiplex I flipped over a year ago for like 150 had like 32gb and a 1650 in it....I had too much ddr3 ram in my bin so I just used 4 8gb sticks to fill up all 4 slots

[tardy kite]

Just turned it on today and it started doing it

[pliant karma]

and i5-4590 so spec wise it was actually decent

[sick coral]

did it work fine before?

[tardy kite]

It did yeah

[sick coral]

i still have an optiplex with an i7-4970k lying around in here

[sick coral]

did you do something in between? anything?

[pliant karma]

lol that is the one I have too

[tardy kite]

Literally nothing

[pliant karma]

used that optiplex as my server at some point in time before I was able to grab a used dell poweredge r620 from my mom's work and run that.

[pure olive]

Hi panda

[ionic abyss]

$150 wont get you much

[pliant karma]

idle use on that server is my enemy atm but ehhh it runs my friends mc server and a VM so that is all that counts.

[sick coral]

does your motherboard have diagnostic lights or some sort of diagnostic code display? if so, at what stage does it turn off?

[pliant karma]

morning cheese

[sand sleet]

I found Xeon E5 1650,16 gigs of ram,500 watt psu,Asus x58 rampage formula 3 motherboard,rx 570, it was all priced at 150, is it good for that? Atleast an entry level pc

[tardy kite]

Na it doesnt have those

[polar fern]

@modest sierra um no.

[pure olive]

It’s not really morning anymore for me lol

[pliant karma]

wait afternoon hehe

[pure olive]

No it’s just 11

I slept in :P

[ionic abyss]

my next ram upgrade will cost more than $150

[pliant karma]

I've been up since 6am

why I woke up early I have no clue

[sick coral]

its a chip from 2012

[pure olive]

Yknow I really should be waking up earlier to get used to a job schedule, but also I like sleep

[tardy kite]

I just did a hard reboot and it managed to post

[polar fern]

So go to sleep earlier

[pure olive]

I go to bed at 12 usually, I could easily just wake up at 8

[sick coral]

reset the bios and come back here if this happens again

[tardy kite]

Will do thanks

[pure olive]

It’s just a stupid problem lol

[polar fern]

Sleep is a foundational health thing.

[pure olive]

I’m just being lazy

[polar fern]

Excited casting waiting to be fitted to new locomotive

[sick coral]

its def not the best for the price but it does look really good

[pliant karma]

ahh I use to sleep early but yea since covid that just been either 12am or 1am now.

[sick coral]

are these speakers???

[pure olive]

I have not seen a tri piston casting like this, what locomotive is that for

It looks beautiful

[polar fern]

P2

[pure olive]

Oooo

[polar fern]

Yeah. Tornado will have a running mate.

[pure olive]

That’s so awesome holy

How much does that casting weigh? Lmao

[polar fern]

There’s also all 4 castles back in steam & a few other items

[pure olive]

[sick coral]

but does anybody have that chart

[polar fern]

Hmm like 4 imp ton.

[glad fjord]

Still prefer a HST

[pure olive]

Man steam locomotives are so awesome

I need to learn more about them

[polar fern]

Electric trains are more challenging than steam & diesel to operate in preservation due to the electric supply & lack of expensive spares

[sick coral]

like the video game platform?

[pure olive]

Nope

[sick coral]

then what steam

[polar fern]

Hot water vapor

[pure olive]

I find it awesome that it still takes multiple diesel locomotives to do the job of one steamer in some cases

[pure olive]

Hot fire boil water, put in piston, make train move

[polar fern]

Traction motors have torque limits - too much current & you melt the windings.

Steam is just fatigue & friction wear & pressure rating

[pure olive]

It’s crazy to me how steam locomotives weren’t even built with computers or calculators

All on paper

[polar fern]

Hydraulic diesel also have torque limits.

Well, the math is all the same

[pure olive]

Some math is easier to manage

CAD does some of the work for you

Anyways I must leave

[polar fern]

See ya

High pressure steam locomotive boiler

Water tube boiler

[merry gull]

Damn. I need that all in copper now. My i3 ain't doing too well with the stock cooler.

[heavy dust]

what’s up with tiktok and calling ugliest people pretty

[median idol]

It's TikTok

[heavy dust]

it’s prob sarcastic

[ionic abyss]

ok i assume its not a good sign when your wireless mouse starts getting hot to the touch and starts smnoking

ok time for a new mouse

and a new mouse pad

[full fossil]

a750 down to 179

[ionic abyss]

when your mouse leaves a pool of melted plastic on the mouse pad its time to replace it right

it also stopped working

[tidal minnow]

Update on lady who scammed me: bout to send her a letter. If she doesn't reply or give the money in time of the 2 week quota I set it the later. I fan take the situation to small claims court.

[fiery cipher]

installing on a computer thats being very problematic so j removed all the disks to see if that would fix it did some other steps etc etc got to boot the installer i hadt plugged my disks back in

[ionic abyss]

ok i got my spare mouse out and need a good replacement

[vapid zephyr]

Don't bother, just go to court immediately
You're not getting much money anyway. There's zero reason to make a big fuss over this

[ionic abyss]

no fire but heat and smoke and threw the mouse pad and mouse into the yard

it got hot enough to melt the bottom of the mouse

[tidal minnow]

Yeah I went to the police. They told us to go to trade standards and then trade standards told us to do this. I assume its so they know she clearly isn't paying the money back I guess? I don't know really.

[vapid zephyr]

Ic

Do that then, they know that shit better than me

[tidal minnow]

I don't know anything 😭😭

[vapid zephyr]

But TS does and you went to them and they told you to do X, so do what they said

[tidal minnow]

Ok. I just need a plain letter case and stuff to write a letter to.

Time to go shopping!!!

[ionic abyss]

so im guessing most mice dont get hot smoke and melt onto the users mouse pad right

[tidal minnow]

What...?

[ionic abyss]

my mouse got hot to the touch started smoking and melted onto my mouse pad

the mouse and mouse pad are in the yard

[tidal minnow]

Uhm. Yeah I don't think that's a particularly dandy scenario for your mouse to be in.

Yeah just don't even bother trying to fix it.
I think you said you got a replacement mouse and mouse pad in your earlier messages right?

[ionic abyss]

im going to order one yes

had a older spare mouse and pad

[wispy jackal]

Hi I am building my first pc and have ordered a lot of parts

I have made a thread under build-a-pc if anyone can help me out 🙂

[copper smelt]

Nah I think you can push it for a few more years tbh

Just wear industrial gloves when handling

[summer folio]

Money was a bad invention.

[silk wolf]

go figure, my fancy dp KVM works over dvi but not over dp...

i really should have just bought the dvi kvm. >.<

[iron hatch]

yeah but yk when you resell, you have to find a cheap supplier

im trying to know where I can find that from, you feel me?

the ones that dont scam and are decently legit. I'd even accept the ones that are reps but super similar

[tacit ruin]

anyone tryna slide me 850 👀

[sick coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193783296917507/1116396431054487664/fan1.pnganybody has the new version of this?

or like something similar

[vapid smelt]

850 stabs through the heart?

[tacit ruin]

850 gigabytes of government intel

[silk wolf]

am i the only one who consistantly has dp cables just refuse to work?

[tired glade]

It's not that rare

[silk wolf]

i was venting in a programmers discord i'm in and everyone was making out like no other person on earth has ever had issues with DP.

[tired glade]

Because it's not a common problem,but it isn't rare

[silk wolf]

so i get what you're saying, but to act like they are MORE reliable than dvi/hdmi seems off to me.

[neon mesa]

old posts are just so weird

was looking at reddit and see "need 3d modelling? use AMD and a 280x!"

i was like wtf until i see "9 years ago"

and AMD used to be the go to for 3d?

guess before CUDA and OptiX really take off

[fair estuary]

they gotta cover this when it comes out
https://fluxkeyboard.com/?v=79cba1185463
i really wanna buy one but a review would be amazing

[silk wolf]

silver lining: i may not have gotten the DP KVM working but i did get the usb switch working so now can use my webcam and mic on all 3 computers.

[primal skiff]

orange

[tough wyvern]

Sheesh. Why the heck are used AM4 MBs so expensive? $50+ for all of them. I can't even find anything new for less than like $75.

turns out, I can't RMA mine, because TigerDirect is dead.

[vapid smelt]

Dead platform

[silk wolf]

so i'll have 1 usb switch, 2 DVI-I KVMs to serve 3 monitors, a sound mixer, and a network switch...i get the feeling i'm going the oposite route as linus. instead of getting a cleaner setup i'm getting a more clustered one.

[young root]

updating mw2 and it's at 120kbps

losing my mind

[tough wyvern]

Aside from Amazon, Newegg, and eBay, where else should I be looking for stuff? FB Marketplace isn't great for individual components like that.

[young root]

marketplace is amazing for parts

[tough wyvern]

It's fine for GPUs, CPUs, and probably cases, but I didn't find any MBs, oddly.

[young root]

no mobos is very true

[tough wyvern]

Some of the problem is that they want to sell the CPU with it

[young root]

but everything else they have on there

[tough wyvern]

is that Offerup app or whatever it's called any good?

[young root]

no

[ornate heart]

has anyone here tried "eye care" monitors?

[livid sand]

linus tech tips

[summer folio]

it alright ig, prefere TechLinked

[dreamy rose]

no. Adreno is FORCED to be pushed to run on Quest titles. its just not where it needs to be yet. its technically capable but Quest versions look like shit.

[neon mesa]

unless it's on platforms like the quest, iGPUs are not going to be VR capable for PCVR anytime soon

[dreamy rose]

i never said it was as good as a 1060 i said it was punching around them while Intel is fighting Vega.

[summer folio]

We need bigger, stronger igpu, like AMD RDNA 2 powered Samsung Exynoss SoC

[neon mesa]

if even my 3060 struggles, it will take a while for iGPUs to catch up for VR

i mean they're technically capable... if you wanna vomit

[summer folio]

RDNA 2 coming back to Samsung phones next year

[dreamy rose]

1060 is the bare minimum anyone recommends for VR Nowadays, this is what i'm basing everything off of.

[neon mesa]

sure, it is the minimum, in like 2018

the standards have gone up

headset resolution has gotten a lot higher

the original rift was a sad 640x800 per eye

now even the quest 2 is 1832x1900

[dreamy rose]

not by much, we still have the Index as the best PCVR headset 4 years later.

[proper jasper]

what splitter do i need for these fans PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G8bJC6

[neon mesa]

not really

many are already yearning for an upgrade

[summer folio]

If the game only works for 1 VR headset, it can get assembly level of game code optimizing. Just like Consoles & perform better than 4090 ti Super

[neon mesa]

the index is the most balanced overall headset but does not excel in any particular category

the index resolution is lower than quest 2's

[dreamy rose]

yes. because its been 4 years. people are STICKING to index BECAUSE there's nothing better right now.

[neon mesa]

do you have one

because i'm telling you if my 3060 sometimes can't hit 90, iGPUs can't anytime soon

[summer folio]

Google Cardboard is the only true way to enjoy VR.

[neon mesa]

unless the graphics is set to potato

[dreamy rose]

the fuck you asking a poor man shit like this for? its fuckin 1500 AUD here.

[neon mesa]

but that just drops the level to quest vr

iGPUs can't do full PCVR anytime soon

it can probably end up on Quest-like devices with their potato PS2 graphics

[summer folio]

atleast iGPU's can do RayTracing

[livid sand]

techquickie

[neon mesa]

because look at onward PC ver 1.7 versus the downgraded Quest compatible one

that's a huge graphics downgrade

Pavlov shack vs the Pavlov PC

[summer folio]

I prefere news of any kind.

[dreamy rose]

people got VR to run on Intel integrated graphics Already. its not out of the Question RDNA 4.5 iGPUs being pretty CApable.

[neon mesa]

source?

also, running is different from usable
i can also run RDR2 on GT 610

but at 108p 7FPS

not 1080p, it's not a typo

[summer folio]

just gotta sit further from the screen

there is always a cut off distance where you can't see the difference between 240p & 4K

[neon mesa]

when you can no longer tell between 240p and 4k you are probably already far away enough you can't see the screen

[dreamy rose]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KChRyQniUew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOvQX2m06Dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZz_rHDgcuk

[dreamy rose]

well yeah obviously i didnt say perfect i said Capable.

[full fossil]

I just fed my baby chicken some roasted chicken

[summer folio]

You can play VRchat on PC?

[dreamy rose]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HWeHUkedNc

[summer folio]

Weird! totally a Facebook Oculus Rift exclusive

[neon mesa]

either the resolution is lowered to oblivion with graphics smoothing smoother than people's brain, or the FPS becomes SPF

that is far from the word capable

[dreamy rose]

its using FSR. but AGAIN. This is INTEL not RDNA.

[neon mesa]

RDNA isn't that much better, it's only 1650 mobile/1050ti equivalent

[dreamy rose]

far fuckin better than where intel is rn. still fighting with Vega,

[neon mesa]

even then it barely hits equal frame rate with most of the time being 30% slower

iGPUs capable of PCVR is at least half a decade away

[dreamy rose]

Laptop RAM isnt exactly helping out here either.

[neon mesa]

but before that you are stuck with a compromise or another

can't have both 90FPS and not shit looking graphics

[summer folio]

To be fair, Intel used to have AMD Vega iGPU Graphics.

"Intel® Core™ i7-8809G Processor with Radeon™ RX Vega M GH graphics"

[neon mesa]

Vega M GH is barely an iGPU

not on the same die as the CPU part itself but it is in one PCB

so it's in the middle between D and I

[summer folio]

Ok Intel AMD unholy APU

[neon mesa]

oh and eats 100w 💀

[dreamy rose]

eh. debatable. if you are talking abot keeping up with everchanging standards sure. but if you are planning to run an index. its gonna happen.

[neon mesa]

not in at least half a decade

your best hope for now is a device like the Quest

[dreamy rose]

its gonna work well enough (Beat the 1060) in a few generations.

[neon mesa]

where they downgrade the graphics

[summer folio]

I'll buy VR Headset when it drops to reasonable costs. Like 99$ tops

[neon mesa]

and if my 12GB 3060 gets this, good luck iGPUs

[verbal briar]

Some scalpers near me got arrested, they scalped baby formula, handsanitizer, masks, gpus, consoles during the pandemic

[summer folio]

if a big monitor screen can cost 99$ than a small VR screen should cost less

VR just a phone screen glued to plastic smh

[dreamy rose]

good fucking riddance. they all deserve time behind bars.

[neon mesa]

the screen is a smalll fraction of VR devices

the lenses aren't cheap, and you also have to do tracking

[verbal briar]

Mainly they are only getting charged with the baby formula because they were found to be scalping the entire state which led to the deaths of infants

[summer folio]

Lies, I have tried Google Cardboard, didn't even need plastic, cardboard was enough to hold the phone screen

[dreamy rose]

cardboard was shit you only ever got 3DOF tracking

[neon mesa]

cardboard is barely a "VR" headset

[verbal briar]

I mean at that point ductape your phone to your head

[dreamy rose]

but the PSVR is? its the same shit.

[neon mesa]

as bad as PSVR is it's 4x better than cardboard

[verbal briar]

I like my Oculus quest 2

[neon mesa]

don't forget that Quest 2 and Pico 4 is actually sold at a loss

[young root]

kobalt you sob, youre in the dodge chat

[neon mesa]

so they are not cheap

[tired glade]

Like psvr isn't

[dreamy rose]

PSVR wasn't special. it was about as easy to get running on PC as Carboard. however PSVR 2 is a real headset now

[dreamy rose]

and it sits in the closet?

[tired glade]

Price was very good

[verbal briar]

Nah it sits on my desk not connected to the internet i use steam vr

[tired glade]

Isn't Intex still like 1.5k?

[verbal briar]

Howdy partner

[dreamy rose]

1000 US

[young root]

hows the ol v6

[dreamy rose]

1500 AUD

[verbal briar]

Ehh could be better

[tired glade]

Is that just headset or full bundle?

[young root]

im getting a 4.8 4 door 2009 sierra for 55$, my dakota may be getting an ls

[tired glade]

You know, 2009 55$ isn't 55$ in 2023

[summer folio]

You could play Skyrim on the OG PS4+PSVR1

[verbal briar]

Nice, my transmission became a glitter bomb but it still works somehow literally clutch material in the pan, but uhh looking for a g238

[dreamy rose]

headset and controllers. Lightouses are not necessary to get it working. thus dohnt need to be counted.

[tired glade]

How much full bundle?

[neon mesa]

they are more like 800US nowadays

[dreamy rose]

what about on PS5?

[young root]

my 42rle went to the moon

[verbal briar]

@dreamy rose i got my oculus used and cheap it does just fine for what i need

[summer folio]

Clueless! Maybe? Doubt PS5 would improve the experience much.

[verbal briar]

Thats my 42rle lol it shifts just shakes alot

[neon mesa]

you need at least one lighthouse for 6DoF and controllers to work...

without them the index becomes a glorified cinema viewer

[dreamy rose]

well they did the classic sony and said no.

[neon mesa]

and one lighthouse only covers 180 degree, meaning no tracking when you turn around
2 is minimal for full coverage

that's why the bundle has 2 lighthouses

[young root]

every 42re/rle is junk

[verbal briar]

Nah they okay, if you change the fluid every 80k and dont put them in more than a jeep

[summer folio]

Loading times improved only! PS5 SSD Revolutionary!
https://youtu.be/YkqehDQd9Go

[neon mesa]

even then to get 3DoF it requires some hacks to do
out of the box it's deadweight without base stations

[tired glade]

Has Sony claims it faster or revolutionary SSD?

Why you knows where Linus old addy was?

[signal pawn]

i know where linus office is

[tired glade]

Contact LTT support,it can be error

[summer folio]

The whole next-gen thing about PS5 was the faster than PC SSD.

[signal pawn]

18643 52 Ave #101, Surrey, BC V3S 8E5, Canada

put that in to google maps

[tired glade]

"in class of itown" that was said,not faster

[vapid smelt]

But what room number

[fossil frost]

which ended up being a standard gen4x4

[signal pawn]

101

[summer folio]

I thought that was xbox

[tired glade]

Ps5 and Xbox ssd are different

[summer folio]

PS5 SSD faster!

[fossil frost]

both are standard gen4x4, even the stupid external ssd for xbox too

internal ssds are both gen4x4

[dreamy rose]

PS5 Soldered.

[fossil frost]

noope, its replaceable

[tired glade]

There is custom controller on it

[tired glade]

Main is on PCB, expansion is open

[dreamy rose]

nope. its soldered. its gonna die and your PS5 will be useless.

the Xbox does have a Socketed SSD Tho

[tired glade]

Memory chips not in traditional ssd forgot too

[fossil frost]

ahh, i was lead to believe the m.2 nvme was the main drive on the ps5...

[dreamy rose]

haha no.

[tired glade]

Ps5 has unpopulated m.2 slot

[dreamy rose]

that'd be too nice.

[summer folio]

Well, atleast the PS5 SSD solution is twice as fast as Xbox Series X.

[dreamy rose]

yes but thats not the main SSD. its Expansion.

[tired glade]

In theory

[tired glade]

That's for repeating what I said

[summer folio]

All that matters!
ATI HD2900XT had a 512-bit memory bus, so fast!

[tired glade]

I don't believe file system even compatible between ps5 and Xbox

[tired glade]

And fury X has 4096 bit

[summer folio]

Fastest GPU ever produced?!?

[tired glade]

Like 8 gb 3060 ti slower than 12gb 3060

[summer folio]

Just looked it up & it is true guys. 4090 only got 384 bit memory bus. Which means AMD Fury X 4096 bit is over 10 times faster!!1 ⚡

The math checks out.

[modern terrace]

Better that it’s deleted

[polar fern]

Dangerously heat

[dreamy rose]

he died in a fire which was too hot for their bodies.

[dreamy rose]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LszIlM2q44

[vapid smelt]

I have that too but it's only 96f

[polar fern]

“Dangerously heat”

Dangerous

It a typo

[summer folio]

Heat which are dangerously

[vapid smelt]

We might beat last year's record of 34days of 100f+ heat (37.7c=100f)

[dry trellis]

Wasn't there a deal where walking into microcenter you could get a free flash drive? Is that still a thing?

[summer folio]

Cool! it's like 9°C - 19°C next 2 weeks in Sweden

& Rain! Glorious Summer

We need more global warming, weather is meh

[vapid smelt]

Want to trade? You can have dry 40c heat

[summer folio]

Ouch, nono I'm fine spawn camping over here

[indigo plume]

I ordered a 7900xtx

[vapid smelt]

For me?

[indigo plume]

Selling my 7900xt

For the sapphire nitro+

Since it seems it has best cooler from what I read

The xfx cooler didn't seem to run very well

At least on mine

[summer folio]

Did they stop selling after market coolers for GPUs?

I always mounted Arctic Cooling Accelerero Extreme on my Graphics Cards.

[indigo plume]

Idk but I was getting like 40 degree difference between junction and edge temp so something has to be wrong

[modest leaf]

imagine measuring the temp in ur moms bedroom right now

after i arrived

[full fossil]

hello

[full fossil]

only 37? its 42+ here lol.

[vapid smelt]

Tomorrow is 40.5c

[full fossil]

and its humid here

[vapid smelt]

14% humidity right now

[pulsar hemlock]

why are home routers being advertised as "gaming" routers and "ps5 compatible" with a "Gaming" port 😭

[full fossil]

so parents know what to buy

[pulsar hemlock]

but you can get a better router for cheaper without RGB

[full fossil]

I mean they aren't lying, its ps 5 compatible.

[pulsar hemlock]

also who has RGB on their routers

[verbal briar]

Saddly they had to make new ones that are more expensive than the old ones

Ive used that cooler on my 1080

[strange elk]

Rainbow arthropod

[meager bridge]

got a quick question for folks that know about dgpu on laptops. the power between the rtx 4060 varient and the 3060, is the newer model more effecient at running at higher clock speed? because of the die size shrink and also nvidea moving from samsung to tsmc?

because on the desktop side of the things, the power effeciency has gotten better? what im trying to ask is, does it slightly translate over to the laptop side of the things?

[vapid smelt]

<@&750150305383186585> y'all need this, since you clearly don't have jobs

[devout thistle]

does linus have a tickets section to contact admins? nvm i dont see one.

[carmine hemlock]

https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Speedster-SWFT309-Graphics-RX-67XTYJFDV/dp/B08YKCC8XD/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3R6UVFWJFVL1B&keywords=ASRock+Radeon+RX+6700+XT+Challenger+D+Gaming+Graphic+Card%2C+12GB+GDDR6+VRAM%2C+AMD+RDNA2+(RX6700XT+CLD+12G)&qid=1689462164&sprefix=asrock+radeon+rx+6700+xt+challenger+d+gaming+graphic+card%2C+12gb+gddr6+vram%2C+amd+rdna2+rx6700xt+cld+12g+%2Caps%2C201&sr=8-2

hows this

[median idol]

They do it for free

[blazing lily]

LTT being constantly live is kinda annoying it makes me miss their actual live stuff or think every upload is a stream lol

[carmine hemlock]

good price? for a 1100$ build

[vapid smelt]

Yes

[magic current]

Should I order a pizza

[vapid smelt]

Hawaiian

[magic current]

I'm not ordering that shit

[vapid smelt]

It's the best

[magic current]

I would literally rather eat a tub of ice cream

I hate ice cream and I'm lactose intolerant

[vapid smelt]

How can you hate ice cream?!

[magic current]

It's just extremely boring and overrated, and I just hate sweet dessert like things in general

[vapid smelt]

Bao isn't human

[magic current]

Possibly, idk who or what Bia is

[dull granite]

i don't hate it but i think it's overrated too

[iron hatch]

hey, its been a while since ive built my own pc. I've started to recognize that the shiny glass panel isnt as shiny as it was when i peeled off the plastic when i first started using it.

am i supposed to clean the inside and the glass or something

look a little little dusty inside

[graceful burrow]

"do I have to clean something for it to stay clean"

[vapid smelt]

Keep it in a vacuum chamber to keep it clean forever

[iron hatch]

okay i get it lol, what can i use to clean the inside?

windex?

[dusky jacinth]

I see it more as "over-ated".

[vapid smelt]

It's glass so sure

[iron hatch]

isnt it gonna smell ☠️

[vapid smelt]

It will smell better than you

[iron hatch]

alright thecoopatroopa

[timber bone]

So I was scrolling on Youtube and apparently Iran attacked two U.S Oil Tankers so whoever is Iranian on here I pray for your safety cause look what happended when Japan sunk 3 U.S Ships

[thin mesa]

Whoop tee doo

[round bridge]

I was the first to view and comment on Zach’s tech turfs latest video 😎

[summer folio]

Murder of 100 000 innocent civilian women & children

Typical America

[timber bone]

That's why Countries should think twice before attacking America

[round bridge]

Japan wasn’t exactly a saint in ww2 either…

[stray apex]

no, it's fine, a full invasion would've been much better

I mean, japan would cease to exist as a nation-state, but hey

it's uh... ethical or something

[summer folio]

USA should remove all their nukes

[stray apex]

why would the US ever do that

[round bridge]

That wouldn’t work unless everyone mutually agreed on it

If the US gets rid of nukes what would stop Russia nuking the US?

[elfin jetty]

it would get rid of the incentive not to nuke the US

[round bridge]

Mutually Assured Annihilation is the only thing really stopping the use of nuclear weapons

[summer folio]

So they don't commit such atrocities ever again.

Everybody should watch the anime Barefoot Gen https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0085218/

[stray apex]

the atomic bombs were actually the less shit option lmao

would you rather the US and soviets starve the entire japanese islands to death

because that was the other option
a full invasion was judged to be way too expensive, and japan was already suffering famine

so
they figured, hey, we'll just blockade them for a bit

and they'll all die of natural causes

[summer folio]

https://youtu.be/vZJ1-I56FMY

[stray apex]

fortunately for japan, the soviet push into manchuria and the atomic bombings convinced the japanese to surrender, and US food aid aleviated the famine

[timber bone]

if u think nukes are the only thing that makes the U.S dangerous the F-22 Raptor is considered so dangerous that it CAN'T BE SOLD TO ANYONE EVEN ALLIES

[round bridge]

Where the anime about what happened at Nanjing (Warship censored what I originally said)

[round bridge]

Between 90,000 and 146,000 people died at Hiroshima, and between 60,000 and 80,000 people died at Nagasaki. Whilst between 40,000 and 300,000 people died at Nanjing from the Japanese. Arguably the use of Nuclear weapons in WW2 was more humane than what the Japanese did at Nanjing as roughly half of the deaths at Hiroshima and Nagasaki would have happened within the first day for some even instantly, while I am not excusing the use of Nuclear Weapons in warfare, however it is important to consider other angles and not just to focus on one certain perspective

[summer folio]

Kingdom of Sweden👑🇸🇪 obviously already manufacturer the most superior Jets known to mankind: SAAB Gripen NG

[round bridge]

Thank god warship didn’t censor that lmao

[stray apex]

cringe gripen

only useful in one scenario and sweden won't even sell it

"good as f-35" my ass

[summer folio]

Nono, killing kids & babys is never excused. Hiroshima/Nagasaki atombombs unforgive'able.

[stray apex]

imagine making a 4.5 gen that costs more than a 5th gen

[stray apex]

boy you'd love what happened at nanjing

[vapid smelt]

Civs would've died in a normal invasion too

[stray apex]

they were literally already starving to death lol

people who just kind of mindlessly hate nuclear everything are so annoying

[vapid smelt]

Best energy source

[summer folio]

You can fly 4x Gripens for the same costs 1 F35 costs to fly: http://www.bilddump.se/bilder/20230716024906-2a03:1b20:4:f011::a06e.jpeg

[stray apex]

what version of gripen is that?

[vapid smelt]

Just get a bigger budget

[stray apex]

and does that make up for the gripen's vastly inferior capability?

[round bridge]

For the lucky unlucky survivors of a nuclear disaster there will definitely be an unfathomable amount of suffering but warcrimes committed by both Japan and the United States should not be overlooked

[stray apex]

the US's warcrimes weren't quite as systematic

[vapid smelt]

Gripens older than me

[timber bone]

https://aviatia.net/saab-gripen-vs-f-22-raptor/ i did not say the f-35 i said the f-22 and look here its quite literally better in every way execpt price but u know how the U.S Defense Budget is

[round bridge]

Nuclear bombs are still a very horrific weapon but with how powerful they are today death will be instant for many

[wise ermine]

testify

[round bridge]

Testifyicle

[wise ermine]

TESTICLE

[round bridge]

[quartz fable]

Jake is the owner of Linus Tech Tips hmmm

[merry gull]

Jakus Tech Tips

[quartz fable]

Yes

[summer folio]

Gripen 39 A from like 1996, but 39E which is superior techwise to F35 is like 2019

[quartz fable]

Watching so many of Jakus Tech Tips he is more knowledgeable than Linus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P32OKr74NPQ I am watching this right now

Upgrading our FREE internet to 25 gigabit!

[summer folio]

USA just biggest ally, have to buy that kekw

[merry gull]

Me who watched it and didnt understand most of the stuff they said they used because I don't know how to fibre

[quartz fable]

Fibre has so many special equipment that needs to be used

Running cable is much more cheaper and easier, I can run RG6 cable to have super awesome speed

[merry gull]

I just use CAT4 or phone line.

[quartz fable]

From my modem everything is connected through the Ethernet cable

the main cable is run through an actual television cable

[merry gull]

I practically live on a farm so it wouldn't be worth using fibre or Cat6 and higher

Internet here is like 50 down 10 up (Mbps)

[quartz fable]

Which is decent for your area

[merry gull]

I'm just glad it's not dial up or DSL

[quartz fable]

Cat6 is just a better decent ethernet cable

[quartz fable]

Forget about DSL, super slow

[merry gull]

The mobile data here is better than cable internet

I love 5G on farmland, makes so much sense (it makes no sense)

[quartz fable]

I don't know if I have 5G antenna here yet

[fierce moth]

Sounds awfully familiar, cough cough Australia

[round bridge]

The only ethernet cable I have is a 3 foot Cat5 cable

[quartz fable]

That is way too short

[merry gull]

Your whole country is upside down, it doesn't surprise me. You probably have negative latency too

[quartz fable]

I am running 6 foot to 10 foot because I place my router high up on my wall

[round bridge]

thats what she said I’ve just been using wifi lmao

[fierce moth]

I have a 50 metre cat 6 cable that I made myself

[quartz fable]

I can do both but I love using ethernet

[merry gull]

I make ethernet cables, it's fun

[quartz fable]

I can also make my own cable as well, if I buy all the parts from hardware stores

[merry gull]

it's only 8 wires in a specific order how hard can it possib- *accidentally makes twisted pair*

[quartz fable]

The stores here only sell Cat 5 and Cat 6 spool in 100 yards

I think that what it is in

[quartz fable]

After crimping the plastic connector and find out that they were in the wrong hole OOPS

[merry gull]

heh

[quartz fable]

I was thinking of in wall ethernet cabling but so much work, I also once used powerline adapter

[merry gull]

I want to try using powerline just to see how it works

In-wall isn't too bad as long as you read the keystones

[quartz fable]

They are very easy to use, just plug them in the outlet and connect a ethernet cable to them

[fierce moth]

Powerline is cool, it sends data at a weird frequency that only the other powerline adapters can pick up, and that's why you can't use them on power boards cause they think it's unnecessary noise and filters it out

[quartz fable]

Very true and figure out how many keystones you will need and how many rooms you want to have ethernet

@fierce moth The powerline I used was from Monster Cable

[merry gull]

Basic math
Personally since I'm lazy, I'd do like 2 ports per room and just use a switch for the rooms

[quartz fable]

I was looking at unmanaged switch and maybe replacing my current small switch to a bigger version

Needs something that can handle more than 100 Mbps, it is an old switch

[merry gull]

I've got an old Netgear one

8 ports, unmanaged, 10/100

[quartz fable]

Mine is a 10/100 as well I also think it is a netgear

My switch is only a five port

@merry gull I just have seen Netgear have version that are 10/100/1000

It is going to be finding something like that

[timid meadow]

Also consider MoCa. Very similar to powerline except using the copper lines already running through most american homes

[quartz fable]

That what the product here in my stores are called too

[manic torrent]

do you know what promising bombing project got cancelled because of the nukes?

[manic torrent]

wow, I chucked all my 100mbit gear many years ago.

[summer folio]

Bet you feel sorry now, now that you know that it is apparently still fully usable & functionable network gear, as @merry gull just proven.

[manic torrent]

I also got rid of my core 2 quad system 😮

[vapid smelt]

But you could still use that for um uh umm uhhh

[manic torrent]

anyway, one of the projects that got cancelled in favour of nukes was bat fire bombs. Thousands and thousands of bats, with firebombs on a timer strapped to them. They would nest in roofs, and overnight the city would burn.

[summer folio]

My Core 2 Duo E8400 still going strong

[summer folio]

I'm sorry for your loss 😔

[vapid smelt]

I wonder how far a bat could fly with something strapped to it

[manic torrent]

far enough. in testing they accidentally burned down their own warehouse that wasn't part of the test

[fallen cedar]

sounds like a chatgpt question

[vapid smelt]

Wouldn't you want to test a flying moltov bat without the fire part

[summer folio]

that's literally one of the orc units in RTS Warcraft III

Flying bat riders,
that firebomb buildings

[summer folio]

cool fax, now I know where the inspo came from

Blizzards Wc3 team inspired xxx country to make bat fire bombs come true

[vapid smelt]

https://bigthink.com/life/navy-dolphins/

[manic torrent]

no, they fly wyverns

and throw spears

you are conflating the human units that use firebombs

[summer folio]

Orc has both flying wywern with spears and bats with firebombs

[summer folio]

Humans have gryphins and flying machines

[full fossil]

what

[crude jasper]

remember we did worse than nanjing

firebombing of japan

[summer folio]

Damm, 130K killed civilians only in Tokyo, average US warcrime

[crude jasper]

not a warcrime

anything intended to be a military target is not warcrime

[pine haven]

I think firebombing indescriminantly to force surrender is pretty bad

But I think the atom bombs did save lives

Because the alternative was operation downfall

[crude jasper]

it's bad but still not a warcrime

[pine haven]

Not a warcrime till 1980

[crude jasper]

like we did same thing to european axis but nobody talks about that

[pine haven]

I think most nations bombed indiscrimenently at the time

[crude jasper]

the bombing warcrimes during ww2 were because a decent amount were civilian targets
again, anything military target is not a warcrime