public-chat

[polar fern]

tech space is full of foolishness anymore

[neon eagle]

I mean why do i have to pay 10 dollars a month to use 1usmus' RMP? There must be a free version he supports

[fossil frost]

you pay, because he put work into it, and if you want to benefit from that work, and see value in that benefit, you pay for it

if you see no value in it, and dont want to pay for it, its because there is no benefit for you... so why bother using it at all

[neon eagle]

or i could just go intel/nvidia

[fossil frost]

so you are gonna pay loads more to completely switch platform, rather than pay $10?

i couldnt give a shit if you waste all that money, you do you

[vocal valley]

Can I use a Nvidia and an amd GPU at the same time?

[neon eagle]

out of spite for a closed source developer not willing to even make an unmaintained dumbed down version of the software for free? Yeah

[fossil frost]

no, you cant, you cant even use 2 of the same gpu now

[fossil frost]

you do you then, feel free to go and do that

[polar fern]

@vocal valley yep

[vocal valley]

You can use two different model Nvidias, why can't you use two of the same? And what prevents an amd and a Nvidia? Just driver shit?

[vocal valley]

Yes I can have a gtx 1070 and an RX 6700 XT?

[fossil frost]

the drivers will fight each other

[vocal valley]

1 yes 1 no, I need more opinions lol

[polar fern]

as long as you have the pci lanes - and be sure to set the existing card/monitor to primary

[neon eagle]

You cannot have 2 gpus working on the same game/program anymore.

[polar fern]

game? thats a different thing all together

[vocal valley]

I'm not looking for the same game. The 6700 XT is for gaming and whatever else, the 1070 is just for two extra monitors.

[polar fern]

yeah it hsould be fine

[fossil frost]

also, a 6700xt supports 4 monitors

[vocal valley]

It's just to run monitors, nothing else. They don't need to connect together

I will be running 6 monitors.

[polar fern]

but like i said, be sure you go throhgh the setup before the second card is added so the exiting card is used as primary

[fossil frost]

for what reason?

[vocal valley]

Because I want to

[fossil frost]

fair enough, but theres probably more efficient ways/better ways to do what you are doing with fewer monitors

[vocal valley]

4 isn't enough

No there isn't, that's why I want to hook up the two more monitors that I already have.

[stark rune]

Is a 1660 in 1440p strong enough to make valorant cpu bound

[polar fern]

@vocal valley some folks in here don't understand non-mainstream uses for stuff, dont let it get to you

[vocal valley]

It's either I buy a used rtx 3070, GTX 1080, or a new 6700 XT. I like the idea of new and 12gb vram.

[polar fern]

just go with that additional card you had planned

[vocal valley]

I have a 1070 now, the plan is make the 1070 the second GPU so I get myself an upgrade for my main GPU.

[polar fern]

yep sounds good

[vocal valley]

So amd and Nvidia is no issue?

I think I like the new 6700 XT the best. 12gb vram

[polar fern]

my new pc will have an igpu till the graphics card is ordered/delivered

[graceful burrow]

Blender and other creative programs can absolutely use two or more gpu's at the same time

[wispy marsh]

Warning: hunger trigger

[fossil frost]

im pretty sure those sausages could still be used to revive the pig they came from

[wispy marsh]

Pretty sure it's chicken

No Ramsay for you

[polar fern]

a few people in here kept telling me to get the non-igpu processor but then i'd have to wait months to use the computer - buncha nonsense

[fossil frost]

if its pork, its anemic, if its chicken, probably even worse, very under cooked

[wispy marsh]

Hm, it's properly cooked chicken

[polar fern]

is that a stuffed pepper?

[wispy marsh]

The brown is the maillard browning

[wispy marsh]

Its tomaytohs with cheese

[polar fern]

ooo

seems decent

[fossil frost]

nobody said they didnt understand it, we asked for extra info why this was what they wanted, in order to understand better what their goal was, and then said "fine ok then" when they said its just because th ey want to do, try not to play the victim all the time, because you do cry wolf at the drop of the hat, which means that nobody really respects anything you have to say anymore

[wispy marsh]

Cruise breakfast

[polar fern]

ferry?

[wispy marsh]

Cruise

But yes a giant ferry

[fossil frost]

the cruise i went on was probably the best holiday i ever went on... everything else is terrible in comparison

[polar fern]

oh ... i mean folk can do what they want but dang you couldnt pay me to go on a cruise ship till we get a sterilizing covid vaccine

[fossil frost]

waking up somewhere new every day 🍮

wtf.. how did : D turn into a fucking custard emoji

[wispy marsh]

Well, everyone in this country needs to be vaccinated or they have marginally reduced privileges

[polar fern]

thats hilarious

[wispy marsh]

Even if they do have a doctor's statement about why they can't get it

Our death rates relating to covid complications are amongst the lowest in the world

[polar fern]

meanwhile in the us

[fossil frost]

i get that some people are immunocompromised, but the whole world has gone down the "lets sterilise everything and irradicate germs from the world" path for quite some time now, and its had a noticeable negative effect on global health... the immune system works like a muscle, with memory, it needs to be exercised

[fossil frost]

that doesnt mean anything, thats entirely down to reporting... china had zero deaths until they started actually reporting real numbers

[wispy marsh]

Noble families and their habits trickling down

[polar fern]

not to go into a dark place but yeah the cemetery & mortuary folks have been busy here -_-

[pliant karma]

breakfast ya say. some plane food on my flight to Switzerland

[polar fern]

real cermaic mug

[wispy marsh]

We probably have good reporting, a lot of our citizens are friendly to the gov and their laws

[polar fern]

or is it plastic

[fossil frost]

worked from home from day 1 of covid in the uk. during the height of it in 2020, saw 1-2 funeral cars drive past my house every day

[pliant karma]

oh it's ceramic

[polar fern]

wonder how much fuel that costs haha

[wispy marsh]

In fact, we've had an immigrant executed for weed a lil' while back

[fossil frost]

its a cruise, its 100% been paid for, more than paid for

[polar fern]

are you in like singapore?

cuz damn

[wispy marsh]

[polar fern]

woah i guessed right?

[fossil frost]

i remember when i went on mine, the waiter came out to me to take my order and said "sir, we have the bacon wrapped chicken and the steak tonight, so i have not brought out the menu for you and simply ordered both for you", he was correct in his assumption

[polar fern]

almost like i pay attention to other countries outside the us

[wispy marsh]

I stopped paying attention to the US after the reddit blackout

[fossil frost]

was 100% the homer simpson "would you like 1 steak, or 2 steaks" "can i have both" "of course sir" moment 😄

[wispy marsh]

I'm now more ignorant of other people's plight than ever before

[fossil frost]

the US is like a bad soap opera that just keeps throwing out more and more stupid twists to keep people interested

[wispy marsh]

Nope don't wanna know

[polar fern]

us is basically "how not to country, featuring wtf and jfc"

[wispy marsh]

My stand is: if independent presses are losing ground, your government is seeking to divide and conquer

And they are very successful

Wow this food is amazing

[polar fern]

a longtime acquaintance of mine who is ethnic chinese in singapore has a lot if interesting takes on singaporian culture

[wispy marsh]

Particularly the chutney & vadai

What culture?

[fossil frost]

on that note... the kids are doing the ironman kids event tomorrow, and ive got to run around town all day moving them around to their individual start locations, collecting them at the end of their races, and then getting the next to their start location at the right time... and... because my nephew is only 5yo, i have to run him round the race myself... bed time 😄

[wispy marsh]

We're the country that has nothing but human resources

[fossil frost]

the culture of using british names from the 60s that we stopped using in the 70s? 😄

[polar fern]

just family structure, employer stuff etc

[wispy marsh]

Exactly, so what culture?

[fossil frost]

how many bazil's or gary's or nigel's do you know? especially those that are under 25?

[wispy marsh]

Those are just common names

[fossil frost]

because bazil is somebody who is in his 60s, and gary/nigel are at least 50

[wispy marsh]

We have weird af names that you'd think are verbs or adjectives

I know a 30yo gary and nigel

[polar fern]

"sofa pillow"

[fossil frost]

picture "typical old british man wearing tweed"... they are gary, nigel and bazil

[wispy marsh]

Nah, the gary I know is a shoe-flipper. Buys limited edition shoes and flips them for 200~2k per pair

[polar fern]

kinda reminds me of all those "tribal" and other tattoos that mean something the person getting the tattoo doesnt understand

[fossil frost]

russians have really odd names, like electrostancija... its a girls name... but it also means "Electric Power Station"

[polar fern]

she a brick, powerhouse?

bbl dinner

[wispy marsh]

You gotta watch this then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPXT43Rekaw

[polar fern]

ohhh that guy

[wispy marsh]

Yeah, Ari got a "kung pow chicken" tattoo just for the lols

[polar fern]

mister "i know 14 languages" dude ... his videos are actually fun to watch

bbl tho o.o

[wispy marsh]

He probably knows about three dozen languages

[polar fern]

seems that way

[full fossil]

electrical alien

[fierce moth]

Wan show in a couple of hours

[polar fern]

oh speaking of wan show - i read that the carbon fiber filament used in the titan's pressure hull was expired

i'm all for "out of the box" thinking, but yeah the more you look into this, the more "holy shit" it turns out

[fierce moth]

Well wan in 12 mins if they're on time

[wispy marsh]

Oh is it pre-wanshow now?

[fierce moth]

Nah not rn

[polar fern]

not 5pm pst yet

[steep girder]

Why does census Canada ask some cultural and racial identity questions that require picking just one you personally identify with?

[wispy marsh]

I'm atlantean

[polar fern]

because the 1800's are still alive & want you to work in the smelter till you die

[wispy marsh]

"Shepard just calls me Garrus"

[steep girder]

I mean it's the only remote shot at even guaranteed answer because the very same way we observe 'race' defines people like child of african american and norwegian blonde as 'mixed' race. You are stuck with literally half half exactly whatever it is the answer for parents is lmao

[polar fern]

half human and half human - so exotic

[steep girder]

So youre forced to pick one arbitrarily because you arent first generation of a whole new race every time two different race parents have kid lmfao

[polar fern]

social documentation is a wild mess

[fierce moth]

Soon™️

[steep girder]

Exactly lol. But i mean its a real physical thing race. At least you can roughly draw bounds at exactly one descendant generation common to all people you want to be one race

[polar fern]

wake me up when we have a half human half like octopi or something

[steep girder]

And it is physical fact a lot of it because you have those same things we always use to differentiate passed down genetically. But the problem is specifically when two races have kids and now the only possible factual answers are either whichever percentage of either genes you got passed down of either race at most. That or if you mark yourself as first forefather of entirely new race

[ionic abyss]

what good is oh i see transit

what good is a knife with this warning "The dishwasher will destroy the blade structure and cause damage"

[polar fern]

hum whats it made out of?

[steep girder]

So you dont get a choice because theres seemingly rng two portions exactly measurable of answering 'mixed'. Or you can not go all the way specifics and say mix of whichever two generally.

[wispy marsh]

Ceramic?

[ionic abyss]

no stainless

but the brand is antiknife

[polar fern]

detergent can have some detrimental effects with some material - but stainless steel should be fine

[ionic abyss]

oops antiknives*

[polar fern]

there's different grades of stainless steel too

[ionic abyss]

just saw they used a v not a f

i will just avoid them lol

[graceful burrow]

That happens with any knife

[steep girder]

See now that would probably have some actual possible use for determining a number of real physical choices necessary. First of all, any percentage of population mixed with octopus should be treated as liers on census and information is garbage. If you have a significant percentage that began to answer that all of the sudden then maybe you have something to worry about lmfao

[ionic abyss]

name your company antiknives and then ward that The dishwasher will destroy the blade structure and cause damage

warn*

[polar fern]

does it have an anti-stick coating?

[ionic abyss]

no

they do also have a set with nonsitck coating and handlles though

[low rain]

i ❤️ going to switzerland

[ionic abyss]

a good knif is hear impossable to damage

near*

[steep girder]

Like either cult or actual octopus men appeared. Octopus people you gotta consider if theyre all in imminent life threatening danger because depending on the way theyre spliced, they need to be underwater, on land or both simultaneously

[wispy marsh]

The JerryRigEverything knife too?

[ionic abyss]

got a old chefs knife and nice butchers knife made by a local guy who does blacksmithing and custom knifes

[steep girder]

Also if you see octopus men, check for artificial signature in DNA because could be allegedly lab in China or something probably

Then proceed to cover it up lol

Because you funded gain of octopus research and testing on humans

[ionic abyss]

heavy knives but not cheap had them for 30 years and they get little love still cutlike a razor

but both still measure a 90 on my sharpness tester

[steep girder]

Which I think you cant do until you go through minimal required testing on other sht first. So you need to successfully make octopus dog and stuff before getting to octopus man

[polar fern]

carbon steel knives should not go in the dishwasher - they will indeed be eaten away

[wispy marsh]

Sharp spearheads

[polar fern]

isnt 90 like sharper than razor blade?

[ionic abyss]

on par yes

depends wich razor blade feather blades can be as low as 30-40

[steep girder]

Is there considerably diff dishwasher soap chemically? I never read box honestly. Just pods with half powder half liquid detergent for that purpose

[polar fern]

kinda

the most gentle soap possible for the chemistry of your tap water is ideal

[steep girder]

You can always not load soap tho. I mean isnt non dishwasher safe mostly due to temp or something

[polar fern]

heated dry can go between 120 degree freedom unit to 170 degree freedom unit - ideally minium of 155

[steep girder]

Because sometimes you could have that not labeled but printing on glass will wear off quickly. Tbh makes sense cheap printing but blank ware dishwasher safe by itself

[ionic abyss]

have a good butcher knife that weighs over 1lb and somes in at a 90 on the sharpness tester that is a good knife

that knife has taken a finger tip or 2 in its time btw

[steep girder]

A major way i know you can fck things up with dishwasher is by loading it wrong and its in the way of rotor things

[ionic abyss]

lol i get a laugh out of chinese companies naming

leeking brand knives

[steep girder]

I actually had that a few times because you can tell by cyclical banging sound lol. Top shelf is usually for cutlery though so you gotta really try to make it stick out

[ionic abyss]

antiknive

[steep girder]

But then one time i think it was bottom one. Something sticking thru downward too much because it doesnt fit properly or falls in idk.

[low rain]

any of yall play airsoft and if so im trying to get into airsoft so im wondering what i should buy to start off

[graceful burrow]

Gun

[low rain]

what gun though 😭

[graceful burrow]

Working gun

[low rain]

im thinking ab buying an ssr4

[low rain]

shooting airsoft cheaters with a .50 cal 🤯

[low rain]

and also a ssx23 js cause why not 🤷‍♂️

[modest leaf]

anyone play competitive minesweeper

[graceful burrow]

I don't but I feel like I got the ability to go pro

[steep girder]

Imagine AI training done for distinguishing cancer cells done on nano bots

Then theyre injected somehow and kill exactly the right cells

It seems nice. Irl the only alleged research on those i heard ever was same thing but not for treating anything. Something about doing stuff to CNS and manipulating the nerves lol

We already trained interface between brain and software on individual people to like control motion of objects. I guess 2077 itll be software control you lmao

[slim moon]

Should I go for a nv7 or a Lian li xl

[gaunt kelp]

Yo

[steep girder]

I at one point was doing hard or expert on original microsoft mines in under 2 min idk

I think goal was sub 60s and i almost got 50 something but blew up on last mine

It was literally that corner scenario I think and had to guess

I knew about the specific versions bug-ish generation code too where corners have biased probability of mine

It was unlikely scenario ofc and i rage quit. That was last time i think lmfao

All i know is if you play minesweeper competitively whatever that is, you gotta use original client and not the new one since vista. The field opening has non-zero delay from animation lmao

Who tf makes a puzzle game in general with timer based rank and puts like 169ms animation on every click

[steep girder]

Legal .50 cal airsoft should be possible

[alpine crow]

so no wan yet?

[steep girder]

It will have range of 5m and be a tumbling half inch pellet in barrel bouncing n sht but possible

I hate toy guns which dont load or even chamber ammo sequentially one by one. Like bb guns. Its nearly impossible to prove safe 100%

[verbal briar]

Is $8 too little of a tip for food delivery?

[steep girder]

Real rifle just clip out slide open. Boom no boom if you press trigger. Bb gun like even one by one loader you take clip out but one is stuck in middle. Couple dry fires then it jerks up into chamber. Third fire surprise not dry

[sonic spruce]

Last time
Is this psu good?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sXKcQ6

[graceful burrow]

Where does it fall on the list
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[sonic spruce]

Tier A

[graceful burrow]

So what does that tell you

[tepid jasper]

obviously you should avoid it like the plague

[modest leaf]

I challenge you to a duel in minesweeper

[tepid jasper]

[sonic spruce]

Super good?

[sonic spruce]

I accept

Windows Xp Minesweeper or?

[tepid jasper]

why do you even need to ask this

no shit sherlock

[alpine crow]

depends on n how much food. I have personally given up on the gig servies..

[sonic spruce]

Yes

[sonic spruce]

when people say like this even though I’m speaking a second language makes me feel weird idk why

Cuz like I understand it, but like come on, I need help cuz this shit is hard

[manic torrent]

... it's not your language.

[steep girder]

Mine sweeper same mines.exe like all windows up to incl xp. I think

[sonic spruce]

As to why it feels weird or is that a question?

[steep girder]

I think windows had that version even on originals 3.11 n sht. Before windows was even os, it had minesweeper. Worth

[manic torrent]

It is because you don't seem to understand the simplest of concepts

[steep girder]

Installs wfw 3.11 on dos machine for like 10 min from 50 floppies

[sonic spruce]

Fair enough

[steep girder]

Windows finished installing and drive goes from 30% full to 90%

[sonic spruce]

Lol

[sonic spruce]

Replace current pata hdd with bigger capacity one like 40 mbs

[steep girder]

But yeah def old one. The current one from vista literally unusable for any competition for sure

Xp and lower fields open basically no delay if machine is decent potato

[graceful burrow]

It's a great psu

[steep girder]

New one they programmed in couple hundred millis animation. Again, why lol. The bombs going off one by one is fine afterwards but ultimately just rubbing salt in wound longer. Tbh solution is also better shown asap

The original i know has at least one 'bug' which you should know. The corners have less chance of generating with mine or something. Look it up

Ultimately, its not pure skill but luck decides if you lose instantly. You gotta open first click randomly. If its not enough, you might end up guessing again a few times. In the end, you could have guess between two cells. I guess you cant really argue about bias in generation if its known to player lol

[steep girder]

Lol

[modest leaf]

what blasphemy is this? ofc

[steep girder]

Well ideal comp one would remove not bugs but all rngesus scenarios imo

So somehow generate pre-opened with min 1 solution until finish

And make no possible dead ends requiring guessing

[manic torrent]

If only it was possible to code such a game.

[rare hamlet]

If windows gets screwed up and needs to be reinstalled and I have the os on one drive and another drive that’s been formatted do both drives get wiped?

[manic torrent]

Not unless you choose to do that.

[steep girder]

Actually one thing to account for is you know mine count and remaining. So if its practical enough, implement check for solution if theres one permutation possible based on numbers for that thing

Not sure if its possible though myself tbh

[rare hamlet]

I mean the proper way is to fully remove and start fresh so it would then

[steep girder]

No but be careful. You gotta select the correct partition where old install was. If its more or less same date installer of identical windows major ver at least, shouldnt need to delete or format anything

If the old windows isnt infected or something, even manual install just see if you can select that same partition and press next

[sonic spruce]

Thank you

[sonic spruce]

I’m not wrong

[modest leaf]

i mean

[sonic spruce]

Hmmm?

[steep girder]

PATA i gotta upgrade to first from serial i think

Im on SCSI lpl

Actually i dont remember was old scsi before ide serial? Pretty sure its serial bus

Idk why its a ribbon cable with a lot of pins like ide though

[manic torrent]

No, it wouldn't. Also "proper" is relative to what you're doing.

[manic torrent]

MFM.

[steep girder]

You dont have to partition format or even delete anything if youre lucky. It will be a clean install of new windows on old partition. All files will be kept except old windows, users and program* folders will be moved to windows.old

[alpine crow]

So I was at Micro Center tustin today and there was a car in the parking lot with the Cyberpunk edgherunners wrap on it

[eager notch]

Why no wan show today?

[alpine crow]

its on twitch now

[sonic spruce]

So it has a sata hdd or pata hdd?

[steep girder]

before everyone used ide there was scsi

[wispy marsh]

Was? We still use it today.

It's used in SAN

[manic torrent]

.... Dude. Please stop talking about shit that is trivially looked up on Wikipedia and you're wrong about.

[wispy marsh]

There's also hilariously low-quality self-encrypting usb that uses scsi for the drive

Yo, wanna work in the IT industry for a bit?

[steep girder]

I think serial but it looked parallel lol. Also fat ribbon. But theres a catch. All i know is it was actual connection called scsi. Scsi can be over other physical or non physical connection too

Like iscsi still used today.

[manic torrent]

So, you don't know shit and you can't use Wikipedia or Google.

[wispy marsh]

Bob, do you eat indian snacks?

[steep girder]

I literally used iscsi like 2 mo ago at work server lol

[manic torrent]

Congratulations?

[wispy marsh]

I've just the thing

#public-chat message

[manic torrent]

Would eat

[steep girder]

Idk it was all response to joke anyways. Ill read it but pretty sure im not wrong generally. A lot of hdd was connector specifically called scsi. Different physical connector of its own.

But scsi still around too and its not a physical interface necessarily

[manic torrent]

I am well aware of scsi, but again, wikipedia

[steep girder]

Yee. But the joke i was making is you upgraded from,serial to parallel first. Then back to serial because sata

Irl it doesnt really matter to me lol. Semantics. The bus is parallel or serial because some interface on top makes it so no?

[full fossil]

Lenovo Ideapad Gaming 3 AMD Ryzen 5 5600H 15.6" (39.62cm) FHD IPS Gaming Laptop (16GB/512GB SSD/4GB NVIDIA RTX 3050/120Hz/Win 11/Office 2021/Backlit/3months Game Pass/Shadow Black/2.25Kg), 82K201ULIN https://amzn.eu/d/dnydOUd

Thinking of getting this , any deal breakers you guys see that I didn't?

[manic torrent]

..... There is no need to be wrong about stupid shit like this. The information is right there

[manic torrent]

No. The physical nature of the bus makes it serial or parallel

[steep girder]

Ultimately the data itself is sent serial unless the bus has same connection width as file size in bits lmfao. Then you could consider the entire file transferred parallel truly. To me

[manic torrent]

...... Your opinion on data transfers, unsurprisingly, is of less than zero value

[steep girder]

Im just transferring files to drive i connected through whatever connects to mobo heh

[graceful burrow]

Dimmskii do you ever actually know what you're talking about
This is a genuine question I'm not just giving you shit I genuinely want to know

[steep girder]

Well to a minimal extent for setting up and using drive over them

[graceful burrow]

It's a yes or no question

[steep girder]

Hwbob said basically what i tried to get at. The serial and parallel distinguishment is physical connection

[manic torrent]

... which, while yes I understand how they work, is also available from Wikipedia in seconds.

[steep girder]

I definitely dont know enough to explain my thoughts properly.

[manic torrent]

Yes but you don't even try to know things

You just vomit out words without caring about knowing things.

[polar fern]

This is why I don’t eat fast food anymore https://youtu.be/VUoHhyvY4_w

[steep girder]

Well no idk how they work exactly. I know that serial data connection has characteristics maybe I see all the time. Physical serial bus will deal with the actual serialization on same level as data itself?

So like HDMI has clock signal to time the data in other connections idk

[manic torrent]

We know you don't know how they work. But the issue is that you tell us how you guess they work, rather than finding out.

[steep girder]

Well meh i really dont care because im transferring data you literally made my point I guess. When im not transferring data in only connecting and disconnecting

[manic torrent]

You seriously have some sort of problem where you can't stop communicating. You just put your complete stream of consciousness in chat

[steep girder]

I know enough just for doing that decently. So scsi to scsi for whichever reason they called the older physical one that. IDE to IDE and look carefully that its not floppy in those cases. SATA to SATA. For SATA power, dont adapter from molex lol

[steep girder]

Im just communicating that in fact youre right and i dont know shite all haha. Like idk some bits here and there but im not trying to teach anyone.

Ive already glanced at wiki about hdd before. Idk if ill even understand whats written there either honestly. Its too convoluted for me to bother I feel

[hollow knot]

Math55 professors at harvard watching 99% of their class drop out within the first week: 🤑🤑🤑

Mods someone is posting cringe in #public-chat

[steep girder]

Ye nothing better to do i guess i dont know

[full fossil]

Me when linus’ last day as CEO

[safe iris]

hihi lttcord

or its linuscord

[steep girder]

Watch LTT channel still going to be doing exact same thing but all of the sudden starts being suspiciously forgiving to just nvidia cards

And for some reason at the same exact time becomes only channel that gets earliest reference model sent for review and is allowed to open it and look at pcb through microscope

I mean if I was a corporate suit of amd or nvidia that would be best strat. Take over one of biggest tech review and news channels and as covertly as possible give biased review in my favor. Is that an existential threat to look out for...?

[manic torrent]

.....

https://tenor.com/view/thats-about-the-dumbest-thing-i-ever-heard-stupidest-silliest-foolish-brainless-gif-16055515

I mean, you're generally right in that the world is fucked and it's entirely plausible, but there is effectively zero chance of it happening to LTT or GN for example.

[steep girder]

Lol I mean yeah is it even possible to praise nvidia in any way covertly at all?

[wispy marsh]

This is not fast food though. It's vegetarian food.

[crude jasper]

LMG is forgiving to nvidia because .... they're kingpin for performance

they're goddamn expensive, but they have the performance

[vapid smelt]

Did you buy enough to share the whole chat ?

[wispy marsh]

It's a lunch buffet

[crude jasper]

Im not even sure what im looking at in those pictures

[wispy marsh]

Indian dishes

No msg, just herbs and spices

[vapid smelt]

Unless it's rtx **70/80 and below then it's just expensive for the same raster performance

[wispy marsh]

Don't forget gtx 970

[crude jasper]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/375445211280572437/1046659685555638383/Bitwit_best_daddy.gif

[steep girder]

Yeah i wont argue there but I mean more like "they decided to not raise the prices for their 4000 rtx line. Now it's worth a gen upgrade again!"

[vapid smelt]

3.5gb 970

[wispy marsh]

It's technically 4gb

[crude jasper]

every 90 has beaten the competitor when the card actually gets utilized

[vapid smelt]

But the lawsuit they paid out says it's 3.5gb

[steep girder]

Yeah brb now I want to spend money on 2060 to 4060 upgrade again.

[crude jasper]

ampere launch was top-tier ~ $700 3080? take my money!

[keen trellis]

I want to search up \v ascii, but \v seems to be ignored in the query. Even "\v ascii" doesn't work. How can I get the search to work as I intend?

[vapid smelt]

If only the 3080 was 12gb only and not also 10gb

[wispy marsh]

Well

[crude jasper]

i've never seen it go above 9gb but then again that's because i don't play Shitty Console ports

[manic torrent]

The only upgrade that makes sense from my 3080ti is a 4090, but a 4090 also doesn't make sense because holy shit money

[wispy marsh]

Cyberpunk on the 6800XT goes up to 12gb iirc

[crude jasper]

i thought Squad was using too much of my vram, turns out page file was too small

[vapid smelt]

Go play Hogwarts with Rt at 1440/4k 😂

[crude jasper]

Shitwarts

i also fucking hate harry potter

[steep girder]

Oh yeah I'd max buy 70 to this day for sure. My strat is just upgrade to same model every few gens. Never failed. Even bleeding edge AAA titles run just fine on 60 or 70. Some problems did come up recently though

[crude jasper]

no matter what whenever we had family movie night, every time that fucker won

[vapid smelt]

Choosing the longest movies

[wispy marsh]

Harry potter is family friendly, just like The Wolf of Wall Street

[sly burrow]

I played Hogwarts legacy for like 3 hours and then never again. Idk why. I actually kinda liked it

[crude jasper]

works for me cause 4k 240hz

outside of that, 4090 isn't that good of an option for gaming

[manic torrent]

4k120 is fine for me

[steep girder]

Like games which you have to run on higher scale just so certain effects dont look like ms paint sprite tool refreshing every frame

[crude jasper]

AKA devs not knowing how to optimize

[steep girder]

Arma 3 120%. MSFS 120%. COD WZ not sure 100 is decent

[wispy marsh]

Maplestory on DLSS NVFG 3.0

[crude jasper]

Batman arkham knight using like 5gb tops and looking top-tier 🤣

[vapid smelt]

I don't have an upgrade rule really I've went from 950>1060 6gb to my current rx 5700xt, well I guess I do I upgrade one tier every time

[wispy marsh]

Would look amazing

[crude jasper]

i went from 550 ti - 760 ti - 1060 3gb - 3080 - 5700xt - 3060 - 3070 ti - 6800xt
with the 3080 currently in use

[steep girder]

Yeah lol ultimately its some layer with post process buffer not antialiased at all. So youre combating it with like min scale

[vapid smelt]

Why did you get the lowest model of the 1060?

[crude jasper]

It was a prebuilt for christmas man i didn't get the option to say no

[manic torrent]

wtf would you buy a 3070ti

[crude jasper]

Cause i fucking can

[steep girder]

Rain drops I think it's their light refraction in msfs

[crude jasper]

its in the other setup my brother uses currently

he has a 1440/144 so he's utilizing t

[vapid smelt]

The jump to the 3070 to the 3070 TI is small unlike the $100 upcharge for gddr6x ram

[crude jasper]

i had best buy discount

cause of the highest membership level when i bought $4,000 in 5700xts

[vapid smelt]

Gross your crypto miner

[steep girder]

Literally the light through raindrops somehow ends up 1:1 with pixels on screen. I can't find any way to smooth other than upscale whole raster and back to screen resolution

[crude jasper]

this is the drive from that prebuilt

got it in 2017 and its still going
Toshiba 💪

[ionic abyss]

how is discord lagging

i just rembered this weird al song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos&list=RDEMVipGsy3wVwcf_KORCbD2Mg&index=22

[vapid smelt]

What models did you buy sapphire and gigabyte?

[steep girder]

So maybe its actual entire raster smoothing by down scaling. But oversampling you should end up with a lot of things individually hitting perf

[fallen cedar]

pff childsplay 36k hours

[crude jasper]

2 strix, 8 XFX triple dissipations and uhhh forgor

i think i had 2 red devils?

uno momento

[ionic abyss]

i miss the old saphire ultimate cards

[crude jasper]

okay apparently the other two still not in picture

[vapid smelt]

Oh red Devil

[steep girder]

On the other hand maybe some of optimization is up to user. Like scaling down screen definitely turn off ssaa/msaa

It should be crappier AA in theory but idk if i notice missing hinting these days. Everything else is already fuzzy because of post processing on top lol

[crude jasper]

i've just been tightening my mem OC to bootable settings and every time it's been stable

[steep girder]

I dont even care about jagged edges on geometry tbh. Its those special cases where pixel dust flickers or AO is leaking in that usual way

[vapid smelt]

Have you stress tested it with Google tabs yet?

[crude jasper]

yah i've been using em for probably 12 hours now with random shit

im trying to tune CO now but idk how to access occt crashlog

[steep girder]

Sometimes AO on defeats any purpose of smoothing edges on geometry because you cant see them under black blur extending farther

[vapid smelt]

Wait did you sell your cards during the shortage? Used 5700xt went for over a grand in ebay

[crude jasper]

i used them to mine ~ after it went eth 2.0 they flooded market

[wispy marsh]

Nice

[crude jasper]

i still have them

[steep girder]

Boot into mem test x86

[wispy marsh]

Obligatory profit sharing due to disclosure

[crude jasper]

selling them for $140-150/ea

[vapid smelt]

5700xt was close to the 3070 for eth mining right?

[crude jasper]

3070 was 62mh/s while 5700xt was 52mh/s yes

for reference a 3080 is 99-106mh/s while 3090 is 120-128mh/s

[vapid smelt]

If you really want to play the PS5 exclusive games yes

[steep girder]

Oh gpu mem oc

[crude jasper]

5700XTs were super good cause of efficiency, i didn't have the option to use a ton of power until i put a 240v breaker

15*120 is not very much power

[wispy marsh]

Check for cross-platform games that you can play together

Incompatibility is often a dealbreaker

[vapid smelt]

The steam deck is also on sale

[wispy marsh]

How much off msrp?

[crude jasper]

20%

[drowsy dawn]

Hey, I am buying a laptop, and I just need a small piece of information regarding these PCIe versions. While purchasing my PC, I learned about PCIe 3.0 and 4.0, but I'm curious about PCIe × 2. Is it similar to PCIe 4.0?

[steep girder]

How do you use so much power with pc that you need to upgrade breaker lmao

[crude jasper]

pcie x2 is the number of lanes, while pcie 3.0 and 4.0 are the generation/type of those lanes

[wispy marsh]

10%

[crude jasper]

1400W will do that

[wispy marsh]

Optane is PCIE 3.0 x2
WD SN870 is PCIE 4.0 x4

[crude jasper]

if i really tried i could likely trip a breaker with my ax1600i

[steep girder]

Hmm. Well whatever 30A is or around there

[crude jasper]

actually gonna put in yet another 20A*120 for just the waterlooped rig and my next one next year

cause currently all the outlets are a total mess and i don't know whats on what circuit nor what is daisychained

[vapid smelt]

Sabrent Rocket 2230 4.0 1TB is $110

[crude jasper]

i really wanna strangle whoever built this house and the previous homeowners

like every structure in the backyard was a code violation and they hid burn damage

[wispy marsh]

You own it?

[crude jasper]

No ~ just doing 80% of the renovations for it

[steep girder]

I remember the limit in NA read in amps. Like 30 or something.

[wispy marsh]

Linus had all the wiring in his house redone and labelled

[drowsy dawn]

Okay, understood. I'm on a budget, so are 2 lanes enough? Should I go for 4 lanes? It's Gen 4, by the way.

[steep girder]

But upgrading breaker unless you plug directly into box, wouldnt that be dangerous. Breaker is installed for whichever amount the circuit is designed to handle

[gilded quest]

the only software I've ran in the last week :)

[wispy marsh]

You would be running out of powerjuice far earlier than ssd pcie lanes being a concern of yours

[crude jasper]

you wont see higher than 20a 120v here unless it has a different type of outlet

any large appliance is 60 amp 240v

[gilded quest]

oh shit, dryer plugs are 60A?

[crude jasper]

some 30

[gilded quest]

oh

[crude jasper]

if its 30A or higher its almost always 240v

[wispy marsh]

I can run a PCIE 3.0 X2 drive and except for specific professional workloads, you wouldn't be impressed with a better SSD in a config using the average Ultra Core 5 cpu or a RTX 3060 mobile

[steep girder]

I know it can get rng but for reference, I got an error on the first pass within hour I think. That instability was rare crashes except like Rust. Rust bsoded usually under no more than 2h

If memtest ran fine for a week, it's good in my books lol

[crude jasper]

the one thing i really really dislike is that the transformer is 150a or atleast the wiring for main breaker

[gilded quest]

well i've been running memtest again and again and again and again with different memory settings

im waiting for my RMA gpu to arrive and my windows install is fucked so i'm procrastinating reinstalling windows until the A750 is here

was supposed to arrive tomorrow but UPS had a delay

[crude jasper]

i was about to RMA 3 corsair PSUs cause my dad incorrectly diagnosed the kitchen PC

it was crashing very often ~ the issue was the 1700x was overclocked to 4ghz without any voltage bump (was on auto)

[steep girder]

Wait well i hope its main ram youre referring to separately from gpu. Gpu vram you cant test with memtest x86 :p

But actually derp i think i get now why youre only running memtest

You dont need gpu for it lmfao

[gilded quest]

just igpu lol

and my windows install got corrupted.....cause memory crashing

or maybe it was the arc drivers, but I think it was the 🐏

[steep girder]

Wait did you do anything to ram and did it start crashing afterwards

Settings just put them back

[gilded quest]

i have ram issues

[steep girder]

If bsod goes away, then it was oc

[gilded quest]

I was running JEDEC default and 6000MT/s and it was crashing a lot

so now I'm manually tuning it

tl;dr my pc won't boot if I have any xmp options enabled

[steep girder]

Oh. Well oc definitely will make it worse from whichever clocks were unstable if it's actually the memory

[gilded quest]

so far i have somewhat stable timings

its not great but it doesn't crash soooo good enough for me

[steep girder]

Yeah so if it turns out to be really the memory causing it from just enabling xmp, probably RMA moment already

[gilded quest]

i have no proof of purchase

[steep girder]

Oh :/

[gilded quest]

cause i didn't buy them

[steep girder]

Yeah might be prob dang.

But first find out for sure if the first rare bsods before you played w settings was ram

[gilded quest]

naw i'd boot my pc in the morning and bsod 1-3 times before i could actually do anything in windows

it was bad
sometimes i'd bsod while windows was loading

[fallen cedar]

windows moment

[gilded quest]

even happened when I swapped in the 1080ti for a day

so I remounted cpu and contact frame and have been tuning ram since

[steep girder]

RAM bsods should not have consistent faulting module I think. Sometimes its random driver, sometimes kernel itself like check not gteq

[gilded quest]

i got many different crash codes

mostly driver and kernal

also overwatch was crashing all the time

[steep girder]

Is it consistently same driver or related ones?

[gilded quest]

with no GPU oc whatsoever

[gilded quest]

it was the "driver irql not less or equal"

[steep girder]

Yeah but is it seemingly all random modules whenever driver is cause

So different unrelated .sys files it shows whenever there is one

[sweet jetty]

I had a lot of bsods too

[gilded quest]

i poked around in event viewer a lot but it usually didn't say anything other than "the last power off was unexpected"
LIKE NO SHIT IT WAS UNEXPECTED

[sweet jetty]

I switched to a stripped down version of win10 and they have reduced a lottt

[gilded quest]

lol windows 10

[sweet jetty]

You use 11?

[gilded quest]

no e core scheduler sadge

[crude jasper]

basically he probably cracked his PCB

[steep girder]

Event viewer will only be able to show you logged events of bsod after the bsod I think. Maybe you could find something consistently coinciding with bsods but idk

[sweet jetty]

Ah, welp

[gilded quest]

for what its worth, XMP didn't really work before i ever bought the contact frame

maybe i did

[crude jasper]

this is why i use LN2 pots for cooling ~ no serious mounting that can crack the board!

[sweet jetty]

I've never managed to crack my mb dude

[crude jasper]

you haven't tried hard enough then

[gilded quest]

i didn't fuckin crank it lmao

[crude jasper]

lol meant more so i've intentionally done so

[sweet jetty]

😭 oh I have a very abused laptop too, screen's cracked, keyboard's a bit bent, the bottom panel slides off

But I haven't managed to break it's mb by a long shot

[crude jasper]

yeah doesn't take very much pressure when using mounting block

[gilded quest]

some of my socket pins are a bit of a different color, but not bent?

[crude jasper]

with other stuff it'll just bend the PCB instead of cracking it ~ but theres nowhere to bend with the mounting block

uhh what kind of cololr

greenish?

[steep girder]

Yeah but whenever theres a .sys file in bsod message, is it always different?

[gilded quest]

no
just a different metallic sheen?

[crude jasper]

thats weird

[gilded quest]

like they were shinier than the rest?

[sweet jetty]

Aaaa classes on weekends are the worst dude

[full fossil]

Guys I'm buying a rx 6300 as a second gpu rn

[steep girder]

And did you have a card before? If you got bsods only after taking out gpu and began using ihd, it could bsod

[crude jasper]

the coating on the pin is worn down

[sweet jetty]

I feel so unmotivated to go

[crude jasper]

shouldn't be an impediment but thats def al ittle weird

[gilded quest]

its on the side where the original ILM bar was

east side of the lga1700 socket

[sweet jetty]

W

[gilded quest]

what the fuck is a rx 6300

[full fossil]

A oem gpu

[gilded quest]

ohhh

[full fossil]

For 60$

[sweet jetty]

Budget GPU

[gilded quest]

thats why i never heard of it (cause OEM)

[sweet jetty]

Came out early this month

[full fossil]

I'm buying it to have 2 extra ports

[sweet jetty]

Or last month now, technically

[gilded quest]

not in LTT central time

[gilded quest]

it only has 2 display outs?

[full fossil]

Yes

[sweet jetty]

It's not very performant tho afaik

[full fossil]

Like rx 6400 and6500 xt

[sweet jetty]

It got beaten by integrated graphics

[gilded quest]

could have bought a RX 570 for less with double the displays lol

[full fossil]

I want same generation

[sweet jetty]

I mean, if you look hard enough, you might get a steal deal on eBay on a used card

Oh, that's fair then

[full fossil]

Navi 42 or whatever

[gilded quest]

i'm never buying a cpu without iGPU again

[indigo plume]

so today the reddit changes go throyught

[gilded quest]

-.-

gonna doom scroll on Infinity one last time i suppose

[full fossil]

Doesn't affect me, I don't use it

[sweet jetty]

My bestie got his M1 macbook pro off ebay for 120 bucks

[indigo plume]

Well alot of ppl do

[gilded quest]

what year tho

[sweet jetty]

It only had a screen broken

[gilded quest]

oh m1

[sweet jetty]

A 1tb M1 😭

[gilded quest]

what the fuck

[full fossil]

Mac mini thin xl

[sweet jetty]

It had a screen broken and the person thought there was something wrong with it

[gilded quest]

i regret buying the 256gb m1

[sweet jetty]

Why

[gilded quest]

i mean
they broke the screen
thats what was wrong with it

[sweet jetty]

Yeah but the replacement was like 150 bucks

[gilded quest]

I want to have a bunch of programs and my lightroom library local

[full fossil]

I think I saw that MacBook

I was looking for cheap laptops

[sweet jetty]

He got an m1 pro for practically under 300 bucks

[gilded quest]

i'm constantly fighting with like 18GB of free ssd space

[sweet jetty]

Should've got more

[full fossil]

Skill issue

[gilded quest]

I couldn't bring myself to pay $200 for 256GB more storage

[sweet jetty]

I personally have a portable SSD always and did shell out a bit for 1tb

[eager venture]

Don’t u have like 20tb of storage?

[pliant karma]

rip I've barely taken adavatage of the 1tb since I use a lot of external drives

[full fossil]

Wtf who even has 20tb

[sweet jetty]

+1

[gilded quest]

I really don't wanna whip out an external ssd on the train and whatnot

[sweet jetty]

I have 15tb 💀

[full fossil]

Doesn't the MacBook have a micro SD slot?

[gilded quest]

no lol

[sweet jetty]

Well, it's on a nas tho

[full fossil]

Rich

[gilded quest]

m1 air has 2x TB3 and 1x aux

[sweet jetty]

Hell no lmao, they only give out thunderbolts

On airs

[steep girder]

Microsd might be worse than even 7200rpm disk lol

And it dies quickly if you wear it out too much

[gilded quest]

come on apple, its time to ditch the 256GB base storage 😭

[sweet jetty]

Ehh, the "quicker" is over 10 years still

[pliant karma]

lol 16tb here but thats 2x 2tb 2.5, 2x 2tb nvme, and 1 8tb hdd that I just use for long term

[sweet jetty]

Fair, I have mine slapped on a nas

[full fossil]

Imagine having to use a 64 gb 5000 rpm hddfor 5 years

[pliant karma]

I've maxed out the drives i can essentially run on my motherboard but each drive has a specific use

[gilded quest]

sorry im not that old

[full fossil]

I used it from 2018 to 2023

[gilded quest]

why is overwatch highjacking my fucking mouse

[pliant karma]

but I never really use my boot drive for any files except apps, any files remain there temp before I move them to one of five drives

[full fossil]

Ultimate skill issue

[gilded quest]

thats on you bud
no sympathy

[sweet jetty]

I mean, macs back then were pointless, honestly

[full fossil]

What was that

[gilded quest]

warship

[pliant karma]

another word to add to the list of no go

[sweet jetty]

No way sus-e is autodeleted 😭

[proud tangle]

what does the pcmr merch reffrence?

[gilded quest]

r/pcmr

[proud tangle]

ohhhh

i love it, thank you

[full fossil]

×&÷;=>$&$>#;÷>@#,@[;==,÷××&×&;÷#,#[×,×>#;@(@@(,×(@;#(@@?×#>÷,×[#@;@#,#*#,×[(@@;

[sweet jetty]

So true

I cried a bit

[pliant karma]

Lol so I opened up my xps 15 9500 for the heck of it. Forgot I added an extra 1tb nvme to it

[full fossil]

Naked laptop

[sweet jetty]

W

[steep girder]

Dang. I mean some of the old ones I have lying around which still work might be around that age too tbh. But between that time I had ones die on me within like a year or two. I mostly store music and photos too.

[sweet jetty]

Fair, the new ones have SOCs SSDs which are actually pretty fast, so it's a W

Around that time was when I started hackintoshing lmao, it was fun being on MacOS with overpowered hardware

[steep girder]

Honestly im not even sure what my internal storage is exactly these days. It's decent though. Never wrote one to death either

[pliant karma]

lol same I got a sata nvme drive from a work laptop that has over a petabyte read and writes

still working but I use it just for fun

[steep girder]

Actually my xiaomi might have had internal mem problems but it might have come with it out of the box

Then in 2 years or so it got worse maybe. Im talking disappearing files after copy and a pair of reading errors on certain files

[full fossil]

🧢

👕
🩳
🥾

[steep girder]

Im not even sure though if it was the memory. The read errors were on large files

[sweet jetty]

Damn

[steep girder]

Yet i had them a long time never touched

[pliant karma]

rip

[sweet jetty]

I've never trusted Xiaomi a lot

[manic torrent]

I trust Xiaomi more than I trust dimmski

His relationship to facts is fleeting at best.

[dull granite]

dimmskii has a cool name but

[gilded quest]

idk whats worse
MiUI or ColorOS

[sweet jetty]

Miui, it had sm ads dude

[gilded quest]

reminds me of samsung

to samsungs credit....they've been removing some of the ads

[sweet jetty]

I've heard , yeah

[snow lichen]

Farewell CEO linus 👋

2 more minutes

[smoky wadi]

Farewell Linus

[terse lintel]

i know this is a bit of an old video ref but im nerdsniped/personally invested now.

If anyone has a similar HVAC system to the one at linus's new house (the one that he was complaining about a lack of non-cloud HomeAssistant support for) and you can/want to help make local HomeAssistant integration happen, reach out to me! I've been interested in this since that video dropped and have been gathering info and talking to people and generally learning what I can pretty much since that video dropped.

[timid meadow]

Thats why i specifically made sure i got a last gen Tizen OS tv. Enough smart stuff to make my life easier (like control from my phone when i loose the remote), and a few basic smart apps like Xbox, but no ads.

[reef patrol]

Bruh

[snow lichen]

Gonna need a link

[reef patrol]

Just woke up from a dream and in that dream I won a PC giveaway from Linus and the PC was as slim and compact as a sound bar for a TV and I had a 28 core CPU a terabyte or ram and a 4090, I really wish that wasn't a dream

[regal cobalt]

my laptop's gonna fly me to ohio

it's really loud with my temps sitting at 80-90 degree Celsius on CPU
and my drive idling at 80 degree Celsius

[opaque tundra]

Happy Canada Day everyone btw 🇨🇦

[uneven flame]

Bro can someone help me in tech chat im struggling like shit

I mean tech support

[mental kraken]

what your problem

[uneven flame]

Everything

[polar fern]

O Canada eh

[regal cobalt]

solved

[uneven flame]

❤️

[wary summit]

bro, uber not letting me buy a 14.19 thing

[polar fern]

Uber eats?

Or some service?

…

[slim creek]

get me out of here

[quiet knoll]

Anyone know an easy to use editing software that supports how Geforce experience seperates mic audio from ingame audio?

[graceful burrow]

Premiere does
I bet DaVinci resolve does too, and that one's free

[full fossil]

Yo any Americans in chat?

[wispy marsh]

No

[autumn fable]

Would you guys say it’s worth it waiting for prime day?

Or that all the deals are mostly fake

Since I’m building a pc rn

[wary summit]

not all

you do get decent deals, but 5700X for $300 aud is a stea;l

[midnight herald]

Might wanna go report this, fake GameLinked channels popping up already https://youtube.com/@GameLinked1

[wary summit]

eats

[manic torrent]

Uhhhh, basically any video editing software should

[manic torrent]

Everything is fake

[graceful burrow]

Why

[autumn fable]

Alright thanks

[small zephyr]

Quick question, my old mobo only had an 8pin for the cpu tje new one has 8 and an 4 pin do i need to plug something into the 4pin? My psu aint got one

[graceful burrow]

Nope

[manic torrent]

It's for extra power if you need it.

Eps12v is a proper connector, unlike PCIe power and the new stupid tiny pin bullshit.

[small zephyr]

New cpu installed blablabla reset ftpm or keep it?

[fierce moth]

Aye my lifx bulb is rocking up tomorrow

[small zephyr]

Nice seems my b550m steel legend 5600g can handle 4dticks ram at 3600mhz

[wispy marsh]

Apple's Vega Pro Two Duo

[small zephyr]

fuck you microsoft changing motherboard and cpu voids your windows activation lmao

[soft swan]

😭 noo

theres more time

[small zephyr]

fuck you microsoft and your support i will buy an g2a key you wont get 180bucks from me for being dicks bout windows keys and hardware change

[desert ivy]

Really I think my key have lasted me 3 computers

[fierce moth]

I got a key that lasted about 3-5 computers, including vms

[desert ivy]

But I get it, Windows pricing is absurd. I normally dislike piracy. But I don't see myself ever paying that much for Windows either

[fierce moth]

Cause rn I run Windows 10 enterprise

[small zephyr]

the fucked up about that the last hardware change was an ssd change and that seems to have counted as changing the system

[wispy marsh]

?????

HOW?

[desert ivy]

Do you have your email where you originally bought it? I vaguely remember contacting customer support once about it and them helping

[floral tide]

Windows 3d party keys?

[ashen zodiac]

i paid full price for Win 10 Pro. that key has been on a lot of machines (since it's a full retail key you can just transfer it over) and it also activates Windows 11, so a key that i got 5 years ago can easily last me until Windows 11's EOL whenever that is. totally worth it imo

[floral tide]

I paid 11-13$/usd for a Legitimate Windows 11 key

[ashen zodiac]

probably a stolen key, lots of those cheap keys are stolen

[desert ivy]

The only legitimate keys get sold for close to retail. The rest are Gray Market keys which aren't legitimate

[floral tide]

Nope. It's a trusted site.

[desert ivy]

Nope.

[ashen zodiac]

it can't be a legit key, a legit key is $100 at least

[floral tide]

Yup

[fierce moth]

This, normally its from volume licensing

[floral tide]

It can too. Retailers can sell keys at any price they see fit.

[ashen zodiac]

look, whatever makes you sleep at night is what you should believe, but it's just not a legit key.

[desert ivy]

What's the site? So we can educate you on why you are wrong 😂

[ashen zodiac]

yeah. taken from schools etc.

[desert ivy]

The key works. But it's not legitimately obtained

[floral tide]

Whatever makes you sleep at night.

[fierce moth]

Yep, but you do get the odd case of it being purchased by a stolen cc, but that is unlikely in my scenario as I have win 10 enterprise

And you require volume licensing for Windows 10 enterprise

[floral tide]

Yall must not know there's a whole world of Retailer keys.

[small zephyr]

i have and i was in a call they just ghosted me literally

when the waiting loop was over there was just one breathing into the microphone not answering to anything

[floral tide]

That are LEGITIMATE, Cause they are certified by Microsoft. If they weren't. They would be sued. And taken down immediately

[desert ivy]

I bought the Windows 8 upgrade IIRC for like 15 dollars years ago. And that has been my license since. I originally pirated because I didn't have a job back then

But my legit is sold by Microsoft even though originally it was a cracked key.

[ashen zodiac]

more likely is that they don't wanna sue thousands of people, just not worth the bad press etc. non-legit keys are such a small market it's likely just a rounding error for them.

Microsoft makes it's money from businesses and schools. your stupid pc with your stupid stolen OS doesn't matter for them.

[fierce moth]

Plus they track you anyway

[desert ivy]

Hahahahaha the logic on this one. This illegitimate site must be legitimate because otherwise they would be sued.

[ashen zodiac]

that too. you're using their stuff, you're contributing to their duopoly (Microsoft and Apple own the desktop OS space, sorry linux users but you don't matter)

[floral tide]

Dude. The logic is fine. It's your mind not processing correctly

[ashen zodiac]

do you honestly expect that it makes sense for microsoft, one of the biggest companies on the planet, to sue a rando in their moms basement selling stolen keys?

[floral tide]

-Apple

[fierce moth]

That most likely was paid for by the company that they work for anyways

[small zephyr]

windows 10 keys and 11 keys are still basicly the same right?

[fierce moth]

So Ms still gets some money from licensing

[ashen zodiac]

Apple does not sue every hackintosh user they can get their hands on. they also do not sue everyone who pirates their software.

[desert ivy]

Dude, everyone is telling you you are wrong. You are what, 16? Why do you think you know what you are talking about. You could just share the site and end this conversation

[floral tide]

Exactly. Retailers buy the keys and can sell them for cheaper if they have to much stock of them. Or keys they don't use anymore.

[ashen zodiac]

selling volume license keys to individuals violates several agreements, and is therefore piracy

[floral tide]

Yall. Stop targeting me.

[fierce moth]

I was speaking in the sense of volume licenses

[ashen zodiac]

you started this conversation bro

[floral tide]

Oh. True. But it is still a thing

[desert ivy]

Why would they overstock on a digital product?

[floral tide]

... who said it was digital

[fierce moth]

This, it doesn't need to be made in a factory

[desert ivy]

What site you claim is legitimate? So we can prove you wrong by googling it

[fierce moth]

Windows licenses is software

[floral tide]

Logic.

[simple ridge]

The issue I have with this YT add blocking test, is i would be okay and am okay with ads, but in the last few months the number of ads has EXPLODED!

[floral tide]

They do. But they make alot of Physical copies

[fierce moth]

Not a lot

I do not recall the last time I saw a physical copy of windows

[floral tide]

Every Walmart I walk into has Physical copies of windows keys

[ashen zodiac]

pay for premium, ezclap. it's not hard.

[floral tide]

U ain't gonna prove me wrong. Unless you actually study Microsofts site... they Legitimately say they SELL Licenses and everything a Reseller needs. TO SELL.

[desert ivy]

So share the site

[floral tide]

.... why u being dumb...

[simple ridge]

i watch YT on my Roku which doesn't have adblock, but due to the huge number of ads i skip them if i can

[floral tide]

It's Legitimately www.microsoft.com

stop acting like a kid @desert ivy

[ashen zodiac]

dude complaining about ads is stupid. cancel spotify and start using YT premium + youtube music. it barely costs more and you get both no ads on youtube and you still get a streaming service.

[simple ridge]

i don't have spotify

[desert ivy]

Hahaha so this whole time. you were talking about 3rd party retailers, now you are saying is a first party key. 😂

[floral tide]

That is not what I said at all. Now if that's you in your pfp act mature my guy.

[fierce moth]

[desert ivy]

You know everyone knows you are lying right?

[floral tide]

You know. It's true right.

Stop tryna think your better than everyone by twisting my words

[ashen zodiac]

"middle aged person who knows more than me wrecked me in an argument so imma make fun of their age because i have nothing else to say"

bro you're a parody account at this point.

[fierce moth]

Idk bro, that doesn't sound like a Ms key

[floral tide]

Again. Act mature. Cause right now. Yalls acting like 5 year olds that dont wanna go to school

[fierce moth]

If it was you would of specified it to begin with

[floral tide]

I never said nothing about private keys.

[desert ivy]

You know the mature thing to do is to concede you were wrong and move on. I at least would commend you if you did that.

[small zephyr]

i cant even fucking change the stupid audio device because micorsoft nucked my windows key?

[floral tide]

I have this whole time been talking about the world about 3d party RETAIL KEYS

[small zephyr]

i swear that is an criminal offense

[desert ivy]

Did you tie your key to your Microsoft account?

[manic torrent]

There is no third party.

[small zephyr]

yeah

[floral tide]

You know the mature thing to do would've been to keep quite and not to have continued arguing with me.

[manic torrent]

I am guessing a big fat nope

[desert ivy]

Weird then

[elfin solar]

Reactivate it

[small zephyr]

when i tried problem solving and said changed hardware it just said not possible to activate again

🤷‍♂️ its literally an useless key now

[floral tide]

There is.

[desert ivy]

Did you originally get it from g2a? Like did you play 10 dollars for it

[manic torrent]

The keys don't come from a third party. They come from Microsoft.

[floral tide]

Why dose no one know about THIRD PARTY KEYS. THEY SAY THEY HAVE RETAILERS ON THERE SITE!

[fierce moth]

If you got a key from Microsoft it tends to automatically link to your Microsoft account

[manic torrent]

Retailers sell keys from Microsoft.

[small zephyr]

thoose retail keys still come from microsoft tho

[floral tide]

That's what I'm sayinggg

[manic torrent]

Third party is like.... A non Microsoft controller for an xbox

[desert ivy]

Google what the Gray Market is for keys. A key can work but the license it carries be invalid. Because a) it was stolen b) it was meant for other people.

[floral tide]

Yall keep misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. There's a program company's sign up for. And they buy keys at discounted prices. To put on say, customers computers. And so fourth

[floral tide]

Go away. That's not what I'm talking about.

[fierce moth]

That's volume licensing idiot, it's against the eula to resell them

[floral tide]

I know exactly what the Grey market is I'm not stupid

[desert ivy]

That's called OEM licenses and they are still gray market

[desert ivy]

You are by vote majority

[floral tide]

uno reverse

[fierce moth]

Not funny

[manic torrent]

A "valid" key is not the same as a valid license

[floral tide]

Nah but someone did it to me and I'm sure they laughed behind there screen

Yalls not even getting anything through yalls toxic thick skull

[manic torrent]

Don't get me wrong I don't give a shit about Microsoft's profit margin, but in order for a license to be valid you have to abide by the terms of the license

[desert ivy]

You are the one that started getting personal with me 🤦🏾

[fierce moth]

We are getting it, you got a volume licensed key and that's against the eula to resell them

[manic torrent]

You are using very specific terminology incorrectly.

[fierce moth]

It's very clearly black and white to me

[floral tide]

Loll that ain't the truth at all. That's u my guy you could have been. The adult you are and been quite and didn't have to play kiddy games with me.

[desert ivy]

🤷🏽

[floral tide]

Aight yall have a good day I didn't realize how thick headed this chat was.

[manic torrent]

Volume key is different, there's OEM keys, retail keys, volume keys, and I think a handful of others as well.

[desert ivy]

If you want to be treated like an adult behave like an adult my dude

[fierce moth]

They are similar, are they not?

Well between oem and volume keys

In terms of the eula

[wispy marsh]

Let me get this straight

His company buys keys at a discounted price from Microsoft, under the license agreement that they cannot be sold to people not within the company.

[limber loom]

I usually activate mine via Windows Key Management Service, very useful

[manic torrent]

No, OEM keys are one key for a system, volume keys are one key many licenses.

[fierce moth]

He mentioned he got the key online

[floral tide]

And who said you were an adult.

[fierce moth]

Copy that

[floral tide]

Who said I was an adult

[wispy marsh]

The company then proceeds to put licensed keys into customers' computers as part of their "bundle pricing" or "sales pricing"

[elfin solar]

People pay full price for Windows?

[wispy marsh]

That is fully grey market

[desert ivy]

so don't get upset for being treated like a kid then

[timid meadow]

People pay full price for windows?

[manic torrent]

Some people must, but hey

[floral tide]

Who said I was a kid. I think your the one who's a kid here there buddy. Your the one acting like a child 🤣

[wispy marsh]

I just pay so that I can guilt-free remove telemetry and edge components from my install

[limber loom]

I certainly don't, lol.

[fierce moth]

🏴‍☠️

[small zephyr]

🤔okay i dont like the asrock bios

[wispy marsh]

@desert ivy get a hotel and bring your arguments there

[floral tide]

I would love to. So that way he can get a swirly

[wispy marsh]

You're not listening

[manic torrent]

Who wants to help me finish cleaning up

[fierce moth]

I'm good mate

[floral tide]

No cause at this point no one is even trying to hear me out on what I'm trying to say. Rushing to the first thing that comes to there mind before letting me say something

[wispy marsh]

Then type it in a paragraph

[fierce moth]

Where's those makita tools?

[manic torrent]

I have all ryobi

[small zephyr]

🤨duh you have your gaming rig behind a flimsey garage door?

[fierce moth]

Damn you!

[small zephyr]

that are the first places that get broken into

[desert ivy]

We ALL know everything there is to know about 3rd party licenses. So don't pretend to educate tech enthusiasts.

[crude jasper]

I have 10, 10 pro keys so

[wispy marsh]

Sigh

[floral tide]

Again. Assuming what I was going to say

[wispy marsh]

Go be uncivil elsewhere

[manic torrent]

And they are going to steal my 20kg gaming rig....

[floral tide]

Tell him that I'm not tying to argue

[manic torrent]

From my house, that I work from home in.

[fierce moth]

Hold up, ima get a pallet jack

[floral tide]

I am Generally nice in real life. besides when people generally piss me off.

[fierce moth]

/j

[manic torrent]

I have everything I own behind a flimsy door.

It's called a house.

[desert ivy]

How do you spend 20k USD on a computer.

[manic torrent]

How do you be so violently american

[desert ivy]

I assume when people share their prices it's USD.

[manic torrent]

No dude, kg is kilograms.

[desert ivy]

But I'm going to say my computer is 40k 😛

From now on haha

Pesos of course

[small zephyr]

the first places that get hit here is the garage cuz its the easiest acces

[manic torrent]

My computer is ... I dunno. 4k maybe? It depends how you count

[fierce moth]

I honestly don't know how much my system costs

It's a mix of hand me downs and purchased parts

[desert ivy]

I have a 4070ti a 9700k and 32gb ram. Who knows how much it cost

[manic torrent]

Yeah I swap stuff all the time

I mean it has a lot of RGB and watercooling stuff in it

[fierce moth]

Well more rgb means more fps ofc

[small zephyr]

wtf why does my pc now does an storage repair whatever bullshit lol

[wispy marsh]

Gold watercooling components

[desert ivy]

Did you upgrade by copying your disk to another disk?

[wispy marsh]

Automatic disk check? It happens every so often.

It doesn't do it if you check your disk regularly though

chkdsk and sfc both helps

[manic torrent]

Yes, and almost all thefts these days are snatch and grabs. They grab small high value items and GTFO.

[fierce moth]

I'm off to Sydney lol

[wispy marsh]

Your $1000 gold xbox controller would be worth so much

[summer folio]

Here is my beloved General chat

any good new animes guys?

[fierce moth]

Nah

[wispy marsh]

Spy x family

[summer folio]

There is a season 3?

[fierce moth]

The closest anime thing I look at is probs persona and final fantasy

[desert ivy]

It's been a while since I watched cartoons

[wispy marsh]

Yuru camp, senko the fox, school days

[wispy marsh]

I'm watching s1 idk

[summer folio]

Not Avatar the Last Airbender, I said anime, japanese stuff

[wispy marsh]

Yeah, what i said

[desert ivy]

I don't watch cartoons from other countries either.

[summer folio]

Baki Hanma Season 2 July 26th, 2023

[distant wren]

why do advocados look like grenades ? or vice versa 🤔

[crude jasper]

Just computer? 8dimm /workstation cpu with multiple gpus

[desert ivy]

They actually look like a body part

[crude jasper]

Setup? Easily can exceed $25k

[desert ivy]

Avocado is Nahuatl for testicle. Or at least it was an euphemism for it.

[fierce moth]

But that's complete overkill for gaming

I'm not planning to sell a liver to get that

[crude jasper]

Yeah it needs to be setup for gaming to reach that price

Sim rigs will reach that no problem

[desert ivy]

I watch LTT I know how can someone spend that money. I was asking about him specifically

[summer folio]

Linus: "Be not a monster new CEO, Don't be me."

[wispy marsh]

Avocado

[fierce moth]

Fr, flight sims are expensive

[summer folio]

You sure?

Thought Avocado was smaller and more round/ovale

[wispy marsh]

It was delicious

[summer folio]

That looks like cucumbers

[wispy marsh]

Avocado

Big, long and thick

[distant wren]

they are weirdly shaped advocado's but advocados none the less 😉

[desert ivy]

Avocados are like Apples that every Avocado taste differently so most taste gross. So they use grafting to make them consistent

[wispy marsh]

Most apples are gross

[distant wren]

I started an advocado topic 🥲

[manic torrent]

So you don't watch any animated content. That must truly be a sad existance.

[distant wren]

I loved the chinese cartoon show Scissor Seven 😄 the characters had actuall character instead of bland being.

[wispy marsh]

that's how the current war started

[desert ivy]

It's something I say to trigger people. I do watch it occasionally. Like one or 2 cartoons a year?

Or more if they are on Netflix, like Castlevania

Or Blood of Zeus was great too

[manic torrent]

oh, so you think that you're better than other people, and you think it's funny when you malign things they like.

[fierce moth]

I gotta find some quality gameboy reproduction carts

[manic torrent]

"it's just a prank bro"

[distant wren]

Do you feel asshamed when you say you watch cartoons? 🤔

[desert ivy]

Yes. I think it's funny how people get upset when I call cartoons cartoons.

[manic torrent]

No, you just think it's funny when people get upset. That says more about you, than them.

[desert ivy]

True hahaha

[distant wren]

Good point, it makes you a sadist 🤔

[manic torrent]

I mean I would just say cringe edgelord, but hey, potato, potato

[desert ivy]

I make no pretenses about it. It's why I use my real picture. So I don't get lost on anonymity.

[crude jasper]

Thinking its funny when people get upset over insignificant words doesn’t really say that much about a person

[desert ivy]

[distant wren]

Also true 🤷‍♂️ dont care what people call them anime / cartoons hand drawn pictures

[manic torrent]

"ha ha, I used a specific phrase to belittle and infantalise you, and it's YOUR fault that you are offended [ even though that's why I did it in the first place ]"

[distant wren]

offended is not an emotion

[crude jasper]

Anime is literally a cartoon - not much wrong with what he said

[manic torrent]

that's not how words work

[desert ivy]

If I say something specifically to offend it makes me an asshole. But it can also be your fault too if you are offended. Two people can be partly to blame

[manic torrent]

a) cartoon has a specific implication b) he knows that and is deliberately using it to cause problems

[crude jasper]

Yet anime translates to animation in alot of languages… and generally thats called a cartoon.

[elfin solar]

Bluey 😁

[fierce moth]

jesus 61 us bucks for a quality reproduction cart, but it comes with the advantage of having a usb c port for flashing

[manic torrent]

yeah man when someone is abused they are like... letting themselves be abused, so if you think about it, it's really partly their fault.

[crude jasper]

If you get upset over something like that, its saying more about you than him.

It is childish and nonsensical to get upset over something so meaningless

[manic torrent]

no, it isn't, and that's not how language works - he said himself he's INTENTIONALLY using it like that, so you can't have it both ways

[desert ivy]

No, that's the abusers fault. It's their fault on why they got offended though.

[distant wren]

Sure you can 🙂

[manic torrent]

everything is possible when you lie

[distant wren]

Thats a fallacy statement.

[crude jasper]

Motion picture using animation techniques…

[manic torrent]

.... except we're not using other languages.

[crude jasper]

Every person in here has been speaking in english.

[desert ivy]

So, in conclusion I'm an asshole, but people shouldn't be offended by someone using technically correct terms.

[crude jasper]

Cartoon is quite literally, the english naming for anime.

[manic torrent]

.... it isn't.

[distant wren]

Well people are allowed to get offended, but thats just their problem, how they deal with it 🤷‍♂️
Another side of the coin , people can get offended by almost ANYTHING.

[crude jasper]

Ok so synonyms no longer exist apparently

Hilarious

[manic torrent]

all synonyms are perfectly equivalent and have no nuance or history

[crude jasper]

Im not sure you’ve ever read a dictionary

[manic torrent]

language words have no deeper meaning, no subtext, no implications

no cultural or historical significance

they are just interchangeable blobs

the history of human communication is all perfectly formed sentences that clearly and correctly state their meaning.

Exactly like what I've said here - it's all clear, and there's no implication whatsoever.

[daring swallow]

Deep

[desert ivy]

It's funny how Anime comes from English or Latin and people in Japan adapted our term. But now people are using theirs

[manic torrent]

that's how words work 😛

they constantly evolve and are borrowed and borrowed back

[desert ivy]

True