public-chat

[wind pulsar]

That's a shitty way of determining things, but whatever

[tired glade]

Anything below isn't really worth it

[dire roost]

my student budget wasnt too happy either but as you said, whatever

[grim leaf]

Guys I upgraded my old gpu with an RTX 3060 12 gb for esports ( DotA 2 cs Go , next cs when it will come and Warzone ) is my cpu bottleneck my gpu ?

Ryzen 5 2600

At 1440 I got like 130 fps

On YouTube I saw guys with 200+ fps 😬

[graceful burrow]

Valve games are pretty notoriously cpu bound

Source engine be like
Dota 2 might not be the same since source 2 and nobody ever talks about dota

[heavy helm]

@humble tendon mate I am sorry that I have hurt you in many ways unintentionally. I hope you can forgive for them :(

again I am really sorry

[graceful burrow]

:what:

[past egret]

steam is chugging

[graceful burrow]

Always does during sales

[wary crow]

I'm still getting notifications from floatplane after my subscription ended

[graceful burrow]

ok

[carmine burrow]

new ltt channel

[ocean narwhal]

How many channels does he have, jeez

turning into the vlogbrothers now

[carmine burrow]

9

[ocean narwhal]

or that one guy who has the exact same channel 15 times over

the 'today i foud out' guy

[past egret]

steam sale title cards as beautiful as always

[chrome crag]

incoming new merch with GameLinked logo

[calm swan]

cool video

[analog quest]

I want a gold color on my fans, can't find the right color. Can someone leak the rgb color code thing?

[steep girder]

Lmfao Rammstein's album cover was made by german artist who reached out to them offering a collab upon hearing and liking their music. So they met up at his castle...

It's always that guy in a castle lol

[snow lichen]

fr

[muted relic]

So gamelinked is just Gaming news? I was thinking it was going to be actual game footage

[steep girder]

Si parlons en francais. This is Canada, buddé

[calm swan]

?

[steep girder]

Idk bad joke.

Non-Anglophone folk usually ask or demand localization that way in comments lol. Rus?

I know its for real you meant

Before anybody points it out because I always respond by entirely missing the point lmfao. Oi know don't worry... oi know

Tbh fr isnt an og abbreviation irl. Either that or i lived in a box

Wys I literally figured out not longer than 2 years ago because i literally never came across that until my buddy started writing it

[gritty cloud]

anyone bought anything?

[visual coyote]

I have used an i5 4th gen for about 9 years and it’s time to upgrade. In that time I have used the same mobo. Is it a bad time to go i5 13th gen? Should I be considering AM5?

[steep girder]

Fr you'd write just 'srs' or 'srsly' I remember

[gritty cloud]

i have the same cpu😭 it’s painful

[fierce moth]

I don't have an issue with a 4th gen Intel

Well I do have a 4670k

[acoustic pond]

its wild how common 4th gen intels are in the wild

Every older machine I see, 90 percent of the time its a 4th gen

[steep girder]

If you didnt update its firmware since it came out of box, don't :)

[visual coyote]

I haven’t had any issues other than that it’s showing it’s age. I’ve been really happy with its longevity but it really just can’t keep up with my preferences for gaming anymore

[steep girder]

That security patch or whatever you might think is worth it will slow down gen4 intel noticeably

[fierce moth]

Well I have two 4th gen Intel chips deployed atm

One in my desktop and one that's in my server

[steep girder]

Yeah thats fine im just saying dont update their firmwares. I think its done along with ime update and bios flash. Dont remember exactly

Just stay away from any ime or firmware updates on gen 4 lol. If youre not sure thats fine. I mean either its patched already or isnt.

[visual coyote]

Anybody have thoughts?

[steep girder]

But i speak from personal experience. The patches should be avail to all gen 4 core i's. Mine was i5 4069 ud or some crap

[weak jungle]

What do you think about them?
I found a deal to buy them for $100, would you say they are worth getting at that price?

[steep girder]

Laptop i5 locked down as heck lol. But it was a decent cpu. Might have been using to this day if it were alive tbh

But i did make the mistake of applying that patch. Im not sure about specifics but it's something along the lines of 'fixed' by disabling a feature altogether lol

It might have been related to predictive caching

[gilded forge]

Certainly. I bought them for full price and I still think they're worth it. They basically have the sound fidelity of airpods pro 2, but $100 cheaper because Nothing isn't Apple.

[steep girder]

But all i know is afterwards i booted up and it was noticeably slower in certain places. Like running apps or opening windows had a way longer delay

[weak jungle]

Quite a lot worse ANC though right?

[full fossil]

I found a 6950xt for 200$. It can be refunded. Im tempted to buy it

[gilded quest]

Apple's ANC (especially APP2) is unmatched

[gilded forge]

for me (not for you and barely anyone else), i can't stand ANC because it funnels frequencies into my ears and it gives me migraines. It isn't a deal breaker for me, but might be for you.

[weak jungle]

Even compared to over ears like XM5 and such?

[gilded quest]

Over Ears are gonna have better passive isolation

I haven't tried XM5 cause I don't care for over ears anymore

[weak jungle]

I have a pair of XM4s at least which I use a lot at work

[gilded quest]

if I'm going to wear proper headphones, it's going to be wired open backs

and if I want ANC anyways, I probably also want the convenience of true wireless buds

[steep girder]

What if its one of those pairs that cost way less but have like half a second latency lol

I bought randos off amazon once thinking it was good idea. The sound fidelity was great tbh. So was the touch buttons and other functionality crap...

But the 500+ ms lol

[gilded quest]

for true wireless buds, I'd suggest Beats Studio Buds/Studio Buds Plus

[steep girder]

Tried all bluetooth settings in dev options. Different android roms and major versions too

[gilded quest]

yikes

[steep girder]

Samsungs had a beta opt in for things or smartcrap tm whatever. Supposedly you could turn on 'gamer mode' and it got rid of lag but only available on samsungs own buds lmfao

But yeah id watch out for that too with wireless just saying. Make sure it has decently short delay on whichever devices youre gonna pair with

Half a second delay videos unwatchable. I also played virtual drums on app which gets ruined at even half that delay. I was sad user

[fossil dirge]

I have the Apple AirPods

They work well for me

[gilded forge]

i went with nothing instead of airpods bc its apple

[fossil dirge]

What?

[steep girder]

I mean apple pods yeah. At that price one would expect lol

[gilded quest]

I got Airpods pro cause nothing could match their ANC and i really want ANC for the train

[fossil dirge]

I agree

[gilded quest]

also pixel buds pro and Linkbuds s didn't exist at the time i was shopping

[fossil dirge]

AirPods are great headphones from Apple

[gilded forge]

i tried airpods once. they're cool. but for it to work properly I'd have to actually use an iPhone.

[steep girder]

But i still feel like it's a rip. Do they need to be buds? I have a pair of bt Sony's and theyre great

[gilded quest]

airpods regular are mid

[fossil dirge]

Oh I see

[steep girder]

Battery life literally endless lol

[gilded quest]

but airpods pro are pretty good

i do miss the battery life of over ears

[fossil dirge]

I have the AirPods 3rd generation and they work good

[steep girder]

Oh yeah also battery you gotta consider lol. Forgot about that one. So many problems w wireless jeez...

[fossil dirge]

I love that it has Spatial Audio especially Dolby Atmos

[gilded quest]

spatial audio makes everything sound worse

[gilded forge]

unpopular opinion: dolby atmos should die.

[steep girder]

Almost makes you wonder if its all worth it just to not have chord from pocket to head

[gilded quest]

why would I want my audio to sound tinny and far away from me

[fossil dirge]

I have no problems with spatial audio

[gilded quest]

its fine when you have an actual surround speaker setup

[fossil dirge]

What?

Dolby Atmos is the best technology ever

[gilded quest]

but virtual surround sound is worse than good stereo

[gilded quest]

what drugs are you on and can I have some?

[gilded forge]

yeah but more than half the time i wanna listen to music or watch a show, not sit in this one place and do nothing while listening to music.

[steep girder]

Dolby atmos can be turned off usually lol. I think on my phone stock firmware prevents atmos from turning on when its on speakers or 3.5mm

[fossil dirge]

What's the problem with Dolby Atmos

It's in cinemas and at home too

[gilded quest]

because cinemas have ACTUAL speakers everywhere

[steep girder]

And it was disabled by default on the one output that was possible to use it w

[gilded forge]

value for performance. think about it. more people want to listen to music the way they like it, not have everything spin around them.

[steep girder]

Wait what. The whole problem w headphones or 2 speakers is you only have left right panning in reality

[fossil dirge]

I don't get why you guys don't like Dolby Atmos

It's great technology

[steep girder]

But 3d sound illusion can be done with stereo fairly easily. Some songs are already mixed to maybe have a 3d thing spin around head if youre listening thru phones

[gilded forge]

it's too goddamn expensive.

[steep girder]

In which case btw definitely turn off any spatial enhancements because theyll just ruin it

[fossil dirge]

Dolby Atmos is on iOS, Android, and Windows

[gilded quest]

Apple's spatial audio makes 99% of content sound worse

[fossil dirge]

There's Dolby Atmos spatial audio on Windows

[steep girder]

I personally never cared for anything beyond 2ch. Quadrophonic maybe. Only added channel id agree with for sure is if it's subwoofer lol

[gilded quest]

If I want music to sound "3D" or "spatial" or whatever, I'd grab my sennheiser open backs and a decent stereo mix every time

[steep girder]

But surround setups i usually dont like when i come across them. They have to be just the right 5 speakers and positioned in just the right way. Then youre also stuck to sitting in the middle

[gilded forge]

the services that support it are either stupidly barebones (Apple Music, Amazon Music), really expensive (Netflix's UHD plan), or non-existent. it's also only available on Safari, Chrome, and Edge. none of which I use.

[steep girder]

But even so, when rears kick in, it's out of place. Feels disconnected. A lot of times just the acoustics maybe make it poorly balanced w front

[fossil dirge]

Well Dolby Atmos works well for music, movies, games, and shows

[gilded quest]

hard disagree

[gilded forge]

if i wanted music to spin around me while listening to it, id strap my echo dot to a toy train track and make it spin around in circles around me.

[steep girder]

For games, im happy with just headphones 2 channels. All the 3d sound you need

[gilded quest]

yeah

[fossil dirge]

I prefer to have THX and Dolby

[gilded quest]

good stereo + good headphones can sound incredibly 3D without the need to process it to shit

[fossil dirge]

I have the Razer Kraken Tournament Edition gaming headset and it has THX Spatial Audio

[steep girder]

Actually in terms of recording at a source and playing back, 3d sound is way more practical with just 2 channels

[fossil dirge]

Also my TV has Dolby Atmos built in

[gilded quest]

So you're saying you have to compensate because you have shit headphones

[steep girder]

You actually only hear stereo yourself lol

3d we perceive

[fossil dirge]

I also have my AirPods and they sound great with Dolby Atmos

[steep girder]

But physically its because the sound has bands cut off or some sht

[fossil dirge]

Also Dolby Atmos is on the receiver

[gilded forge]

headsets sucks. doesn't matter what brand, what price, anything. when you combine headphones and a mic into one, they will both suffer.

[steep girder]

Like behind your head is just more muffled if you listen closely

[formal anchor]

Gamelinked in #472210112686325770 WHEN

[neon mesa]

when playing games regular stereo can feel shit tbh

sound disproportionally loud on one side when object is only on the right

[oak kindle]

its a way bigger problem with headphones though cuz no crossfeed or reflections

[neon mesa]

when there should be more sound on the other side one due to sound reflecting off surfaces

[oak kindle]

you get actual 3d sound with stereo speakers

[neon mesa]

even windows sonic feel better

[oak kindle]

yeah but just get stereo speakers at that point 🥱

[neon mesa]

-don't want others to hear what i'm hearing
-background noise
-room reverb

[oak kindle]

why would room reverb be a negative

[neon mesa]

because it's no longer the true sound as the surface reverb distort the sound

[crystal pike]

does it actually work tho

[neon mesa]

and it kinda messes up the 3d feel when playing games

[crystal pike]

i tried it and it seemed like well it doesnt work

[oak kindle]

no, songs and such arent mastered in anechoic chambers, room reflections are good

[neon mesa]

windows sonic is still shit, dolby atmos miles better

[oak kindle]

you want reflections and crosstalk

[neon mesa]

it's shit on games

[oak kindle]

idk depends

[neon mesa]

hearing footsteps etc

stereo doesn't give accurate direction

speakers straight up gives no direction

not to mention with speakers you need to have an annoying setup

crowding up space

[gilded forge]

and if you don't have a room with the right dimensions, ceiling type, etc..then you're just out of luck ig.

[meager bridge]

anyone here knows a store where they sell modified dualshock 4 controllers that has intergrated usb c instead of micro usb?

[wise pumice]

walmart

[steep girder]

Yeah but stereo you literally mix the track just two channels l/r ears by applying same dsp as pretty much the physical thing when sound is 'in front' or 'behind'

[meager bridge]

hmm

[steep girder]

Stereo in theory is all you need since one way or another its all heard through just 2 ears

[fossil dirge]

I agree

[steep girder]

Also more practical because in any computer game for example, 3d sound is always minimally and by default supported thru stereo

[meager bridge]

yeah 5 bucks or what ever and the signifigant sound upgrade you get is fantastic

[fossil dirge]

Exactly

Dolby Atmos for headphones works really well

[meager bridge]

and depending on what kind of headphones/ iems you're using, you might even have to end up paying for the fee if the company has a collab with them

something like steel series or hyper x

[neon mesa]

i got atmos for free lol
bundled with my lenovo laptop

[meager bridge]

there ya go

[neon mesa]

well i guess it's technically "paid"

just included with the laptop price

[steep girder]

If you want 5.1 or quad, it already requires that the engine itself even lets you set it to anything beyond 2. On the other hand, any good 3d sound engine that has separate headphones and speaker setting usually would have 5.1 quad and the rest

[meager bridge]

i exclusively use iem's and from what i can tell, other than i think Sennheiser with their one of the iems, none of them so far offer a free dolby atmos with the package

[steep girder]

But if you have a spatial sound track thats only available in stereo mix, youve hit a brick wall

[fossil dirge]

My Lenovo Legion laptop has Dolby Atmos

[full fossil]

100k record lol

[steep girder]

Is it that lenvo legion with RGB keyboard?

[full fossil]

gtg

[steep girder]

If you have something like y520 it's same as mine. Really good laptop. No drivers for any windows other than 10 kills me

But in bios theres a gpu setting whose hint reads 'disable for Windows XP' lol

I gotta see if its possible to even get xp running on it tbh. If so, that's like potential world record breaking sht

Wait actually i dont even need video driver for that...

[steep girder]

Its a good indicator written on device box front and center of it having at least stereo speakers lol

They never bother writing if it's a phone with mono or stereo speaker. Look for dolby atmos label lol

My phone is stereo but one of the sides is just outputted from receiver pretty sure lmfao

I mean i can hear the stereo but one channel is facing perpendicular to the other and the eq is off. Still i think they tried to correct it because its decent enough for two speakers facing diff directions from completely different cutout shape

But it got me wondering why is that other samsung i had only mono from the bottom spk. I mean if receiver as second channel qualifies...

[steep girder]

Honestly you might pay a real price if you dont wipe oem windows and reinstall legit from microsoft. As long as you can keep your license

[neon mesa]

never reinstalled my OS

just an upgrade to 11, which keeps the licenses

[steep girder]

Lol well idk if theres not too much crap on it and like remote assistance center isnt popping up. Judge for yourself

[sharp talon]

Our local blogger is back. Welcome

[tardy terrace]

Meowdy!

[steep girder]

Oh windows 11 upgrade might keep most of the stuff tbh. Like the os upgrades but do the uninstallation registries persist after 10->11?

Because honestly i never tried in place upgrade or win update to 11 yet

[tardy terrace]

when you upgrade your os version it auto creates a windows.old folder in C root

it also keeps your files

[steep girder]

I know that every update within win 10. Even multiple major 'versions' through both cd and win upd are not clean in any way

Tbh even just the built in microsoft apps n sht get left over and break lol. Clean windows install becomes dirty too after win update from like 1809 to 1903

[broken onyx]

Does anyone know how much is the little helmet that comes with the thrustmaster t248?

[steep girder]

Even all registry thats non-default remains. Most of windows reg remains untouched but as always has that hallmark unpredictable randomness by reverting a handful of things to default

But it's all the wrong settings like remote desktop services set back to manual. Server once too. Most of the other stuff was exactly the way I left it though. The next time i did exact same upgrade from scratch on a separate install, it didnt change any configurations as far as im aware

But bottom line: if you have malware or rootkits or just about anything in general on win 10, you have no chance of getting rid of it after any method of update

[pliant karma]

Meowdy to you

[tardy terrace]

I got this tub of habanero & pineapple dip

it's addicting, help

[quiet mural]

micro or full case

[steep girder]

Win 11 im just curious how much it carries over. Latest windows 10 versions should be easily everything moved from 10 installation. Except for maybe certain kinds of drivers like display adapter. Not sure tbh. Apparently its different somehow

[pliant karma]

I see looks like you are having a cravings moment

[steep girder]

The habanero gets really pacified in that sauce. Next step you gotta just try habaneros raw. Whole different world lol

Btw even that pineapple sauce youre talking about, you can still eat too much and get stomach ache so take it easy lol

It depends on how and when sauce was mixed. If its home made fresh, the heat from chili flakes hasnt mixed into the sauce yet.

So basically you eat a lot and it stings a bit here and there. All of the spice is locked in and makes its way down untouched lmao

Then stomach ache for some reason. Why wtf. Then realize its how chilli feels in stomach.

Ive had plenty of times when i got heartburn after spicy food and tried burping. Then like a bit of stomach acid mixed with chilli heat came up lmfao

[neon mesa]

literal tomfoolery

nvidia on their way to selling an imposter XX60 card

[zealous crest]

pp

[steep girder]

If you never experienced it, take it from me: spicy stomach acid in esophagus is not a bueno experience

[zealous crest]

hehehehe

[steep girder]

Right i think 3050 8gb was the one i kept talking about

The later model is a newer gen chip right?

[zealous crest]

i took fat shit tacO bELl rellay gets jou like that

[pliant karma]

oh yea it is not even pleasant. Take it from me too who drank down the sauce that was in the rice noodle bowl from a korean place I was at.

[neon mesa]

yeah there's a GA106 3050
making the 4060 looks even more shit

[steep girder]

Eeeeey amigo you eat a lot of tacos because when jour belly gets big, you'll be three guys wey

Miralo see that guy over there? He's three guys 💪

Then when your stomach pokes out enough, you can slap people with it like 3rd arm

Extra limb idk lol. Plus it has unique ability uppercut slap

[dull tapir]

people saying 4060 is shit and i am here still on 1080

[neon mesa]

oddly enough there's RTX 2050
which is based off the same die as the first 3050

[inland parrot]

By going Nvidia you help the environment by using less power

[steep girder]

Wait so is 4060 same chip as rereleases 3050 8gb?

[neon mesa]

you fund nvidia's AI tomfoolery which eats more power than miners

[neon mesa]

the 4060 is ada not ampere so no
but it uses a die meant for XX50 cards

XX50 cards have been using 107 since pascal

[inland parrot]

Lol yup. I'm surprised Nvidia doesn't greenwash their stuff

[steep girder]

Oh true. What was that newer gen then? Was it some mobile line

[neon mesa]

which one

[steep girder]

The 3050 that came out way later

[neon mesa]

GA106 which is same die as 3060

but it still performs like a 3050 tho don't get hopes up

it uses a shittier variant of GA106

GA106-150-KA-A1

the 3060 12GB has GA106-300-A1

the 3060 actually also has a GA104 based variant

but again performs 100% identical to the GA106 ones

[steep girder]

I was waiting specifically for 4060 with at least 8gb of ram finally and hoping for maybe even more. The rtx played a huge role in making me wait

[neon mesa]

probably nvidia using their lower bin chips

[dull tapir]

why does 3060 have so much more vram compared to ti and others

[steep girder]

Because if i was gonna pay for my first rtx card, it wasnt gonna be first 2 gens lol

[calm swan]

its pretty meh, spend an extra $20 and get a 3060ti which is faster

[neon mesa]

due to bus width

they have two options
put 6GB or 12GB

[gilded quest]

meanwhile intel has 256bit bus for like $230

[steep girder]

Right well its rebranded last minute right? If i understand correctly, im talking about whatever it is that they called 3070

[neon mesa]

nvidia know they'd be fucking themselves up putting 6GB on 3060, so 12GB it goes

[pliant karma]

I really want a a770 lol might as well take that chance when I hit up MC over the weekend

[gilded quest]

what for?

[calm swan]

yeah nvidia has been and is fucking themselves over

[pliant karma]

free 128gb usb stick

[gilded quest]

i mean what would you use the A770 for? What's your current GPU?

[pliant karma]

I have one coupon expiring this weekend and another one the week after so I am going twice

[calm swan]

a770 in the states is expensive lmao

[pliant karma]

ah just video editing and little flight sim

[neon mesa]

A770 sells like hotcake
A750 is plenty

[gilded quest]

its like $330 when on sale
when not on sale newegg has some lame prices

[steep girder]

Unless i understood wrong they jacked the prices too much and people got mad. Then they tried to save it by rebranding shittier cards one model up? Did i get all that right?

[calm swan]

oh whatttt thats good, for the 16g?

[pliant karma]

and some AV1 stuff

[slate agate]

nvidia isn't fucking themselves over, they are fucking you over (the consumer)

people still buy their shit

[gilded quest]

You can get an open box 8gb a770 for like $230 on newegg

[dull tapir]

i was thinking of getting 3060 or ti version last summer but i decided to keep my 1080 for another year or so everything still runs fine on it and 8400 also see no new triple a games that would require it no future proofing so it would be a waste rather wait a bit so ray tracing technology develops bit more and drops prices

[quiet mural]

no embeds?

[gilded quest]

https://tenor.com/view/bobux-roblox-embed-no-embed-perms-0bobux-gif-18287307

[gilded quest]

get wrekt

[quiet mural]

rip I am not trying to scam anyone

[ashen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-muppet-green-its-not-that-easy-gif-16886135

[dull tapir]

what is the point of not allowing gifs

[gilded quest]

thats what they all say

[quiet mural]

its a screenshot of my build list

[gilded quest]

class system/hierarchy

[dull tapir]

monarchy

[ashen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-roll-nitro-gif-21997352

[pliant karma]

I have that option or splurge and uhh get some fans which I do not need but I wanna fill my entire case with noctua fans since I have 2 as intake and a NH-U14s lol

[neon mesa]

idk what's the fastest speedrun for silver play button is but LMG's GameLinked probably WR

[dull tapir]

hh

[gilded quest]

LinusCatTips to 1 mil

[dull tapir]

i see no reason to buy nitro for that much

[calm swan]

"aMd bAd DriVerS" lmfao

my friend bought a 306012g for like $300 and i told him to buy a 6700xt instead (the $309 one). my other friend convinced the first one by saying "nO No aMd TrAsH, NvIdIa BeTtEr".

[gilded quest]

I like nitro basic

[ashen zodiac]

based

[steep girder]

Monarchy is totally autocratic until the deciding election is which of 3 closest kin is last man standing after as many DM rounds as it takes lol

[calm swan]

btw all they play is mc and fortnut

[dull tapir]

you can communicate just as well without it except for glossy profile

[steep girder]

Then its autocratic again until next election cycle

[neon mesa]

eh nitro basic seems like a shit deal

[dull tapir]

mod passing the torch to another mod

[neon mesa]

it's like 5 bucks a month for less than half the features

[gilded quest]

I had full nitro and i was like "well I mostly use emoji and stickers"

[neon mesa]

even more basic (hah) than the original 5 bucks nitro

[gilded quest]

$3/month
less than a third of full nitro

[ashen zodiac]

i literally only use emoji

[neon mesa]

nitro classic was a way better deal
but they removed it

[steep girder]

Well that would be nice but picture sometimes admin disappears and there are 3 mods. Only one can be admin. Fight

[dull tapir]

russian roulette

russian omlette

[pliant karma]

that was me initially but now I'm purely using full nitro for the 500mb. video/photo archive on my archive server

[steep girder]

Actually on irc you literally had that. People would legit try to usurp the op throne like its medieval times

[dull tapir]

russian chervolette

[neon mesa]

this was the plan that basic replaced

[steep girder]

Like you got ddosed and crashed out of your channel. Literally op can be up for grabs whoever gets it first lol

[neon mesa]

you still get the fancy profile with half price

[dull tapir]

ddosing skype was so easy

also ts3

[steep girder]

But usually you had not one but a few bots opped just hanging there 24/7 to secure your autocratic rule over irc channel lmfao

[gilded quest]

I had full nitro for a year (2 years?) and while i'd like it again, nitro basic gives me 99% of what I used nitro for so i'm trying this out for a year

[neon mesa]

nitro basic is shit because it replaced a much better plan which is classic

[dull tapir]

pay discord to be able to have glossy sprinkles on your pfp

when you become a skin

[gilded quest]

[neon mesa]

i pay nitro so i can flex on you https://tenor.com/view/embed-no-no-embed-megamind-megamind-meme-gif-25261934

[steep girder]

No but on irc, originally there was literally no accounts or logins. Yet only one person on server can have the same nickname. And channels were owned as soon as you joined them if they didnt exist yet

[neon mesa]

full nitro gives 2 boosts which is a plus

[dull tapir]

paying money to post gifs

[neon mesa]

embed access in this chat can be super useful

[steep girder]

But in the cases where all operators end up off channel, you had the channel taken over by somebody else

[neon mesa]

best part, i get to get my username early
so i got what i want

[dull tapir]

skype only had like groups made yes not servers per se

[neon mesa]

some poor (not financially poor) person added me just to beg for my username

[dull tapir]

i actually miss skype and ts3

[steep girder]

But then theres the modernized irc servers which ogs consider softcore. Like freenode. It lets you send commands to server to authenticate yourself and holds nickname for like a year or some sht

And channel im pretty sure you can also reserve. I remember theres some crap like auto-op, etc

[dull tapir]

just use stationary phone to play games via

use an owl to communicate while gaming

[near nymph]

I got my username super early

[ashen zodiac]

Microsoft had every opportunity to be market leader in social media. they had MSN Messenger and Skype.

and they just decided nah we'll let the zucc have all social media k bye

[steep girder]

But yeah takes out all the fun of irc. It was literally medieval chatroom ages and the channels were like land

[dull tapir]

send pigeons

[near nymph]

2015 discord user. Let's gooooooo

[dull tapir]

you can change username right

[steep girder]

Then occasionally DDoSing vikings would show up and annex your sht

[dull tapir]

or like tag

[pliant karma]

ay just a year after you lol

[ashen zodiac]

for anyone who actually gets this reference, you're based

[steep girder]

Discord nitro basic became a ripoff more and more since microsoft took over lol

[near nymph]

Huh

[pliant karma]

I was never active on discord till like high school, that shit took off for me at least so yea been like that ever since

[steep girder]

All thats left is animated smiley and cross-server ones (which is basically use your own smileys anywhere)

[gilded quest]

i didn't start using discord till college....cause it wasn't around when I was in high school @pliant karma

[steep girder]

But watch Imma Nostradamus this sht and predict that fairly soon the custom emotes will disappear. Or at least the cross-server part

[gilded quest]

you're so fucking dumb holy shit

[pliant karma]

Lol I like how I type faster/more accurate on my macbook keyboard and custon keyboard then I do with any other laptop/pc keyboard

[gilded quest]

microsoft does not own discord

[steep girder]

Wait what

[ashen zodiac]

for those confused, she calls herself pigeon

[gilded quest]

you're a dumbass

[steep girder]

Who owns it then rn?

[gilded quest]

discord....

or since they're private, any mix of private equity investors i guess

but they aren't owned by a public company

[pliant karma]

yea the talks with MS never went through as far as I know

[gilded quest]

microsoft wouldn't have been the worst corporate owner for them; but it's better if discord stays independent imo

please don't let salesforce or amazon or atlassian buy them

[steep girder]

Oh wtf! So it didnt end up,getting bought wtf im a genuine sea sponge iq lol

[muted hemlock]

They actually took over?

[pliant karma]

no

[gilded quest]

no -.-

[steep girder]

My bad. But why is it getting crappy then lmao

[muted hemlock]

Tbh nitro is not even that needed, it's such a waste

[fossil dirge]

Exactly

Microsoft doesn't own Discord

[muted hemlock]

That's what I was thinking 🗿

[fossil dirge]

And I don't think that Microsoft is going to buy Discord

[muted hemlock]

They never ended up buying it, they were rumors

[steep girder]

And why am i getting free reward xbox game pass codes as a 'feature' of nitro?

[fossil dirge]

Microsoft was going to buy Discord but they decline

[gilded quest]

if you have disposable income and find enjoyment from the perks, its not a terrible value
but you absolutely do not need nitro

[muted hemlock]

You can get youtube premium with it sometimes too

[gilded quest]

companies make deals with each other all the time

[steep girder]

Yeah i just saw that lol. But right around that same time as deal, i began getting xbox game passes and disc began getting crappier lmfao

[pliant karma]

free stuff once in a while that's all. Even YT gave me game pass ultimate for 3 months+ discord so I have half a years worth of free game pass

[muted hemlock]

I've had it a few times and it just doesn't feel different than not having it, boosted servers negate most streaming perks of nitro too

[gilded quest]

I have it for the emoji

[steep girder]

Fair enough. Still it was just coincidences and i assumed deal went thru for some reason lmao

[gilded quest]

if it did you'd have to sign in with your microsoft account /s

[fossil dirge]

I use my Microsoft account

Especially for using Windows and Xbox

[pliant karma]

lol this is sorta of my business mixed with my fun account somewhat .

[steep girder]

Nope. Skype at first was regular old skype. Later to be honest they just made sign in possible with microsoft account

And you were supposed to merge your old skype into it unless you didnt have any microsoft accs

[fossil dirge]

Microsoft bought Skype

But they ruin it when Microsoft was ran by Steve Ballmer

[steep girder]

Yeah I know. I was using skype back then for video chats instead of disc

[fossil dirge]

Teams is Microsoft's new chat service

Teams is built on Windows 11

I think Satya Nadella is a better CEO than Steve Ballmer

Microsoft did bought many great companies like GitHub and Linkedin

[steep girder]

I actually have screenshot even. I can dig it up. I logged in to my original microsoft account post migration from the last version of windows live messenger. That same thing was msn messenger and windows messenger before it

[ashen zodiac]

Steve Jobs will always be the best CEO. he actually changed the world. several times. Microsoft CEO's just make for good memes

[fossil dirge]

I agree

[steep girder]

But i had to apply like two patches and another one just for installer to continue

[dusty rune]

had to use teams for online school, its terrifying

[neon mesa]

microsoft made a lot of revolutionary changes, just in the less known parts

[steep girder]

But yeah it was like 2018 or something and i logged into my 'skype' account from msn lol

[fossil dirge]

Steve Jobs was the best CEO ever especially that when he was at Apple he helped changed the world

[dusty rune]

the amount of info that app takes and shares

[steep girder]

It still had original contacts the way i left them haha

[fossil dirge]

Probably a better CEO that we ever had

[dull granite]

still dead

i'm glad tho

[vapid zephyr]

So what did he actually do to or help change the world

[steep girder]

Tbh a few were still on ebuddy so that was a thing. I mean they secretly didnt shut down the actual service. It was just client sided artificial errors and preventing installation from completing

[fossil dirge]

I had no problems with Teams

[full fossil]

Our school is transferring to microsoft from google due to security. Are there really any Pros to using microsoft over google? I really enjoyed using google as Its what they taught us to use and I find it a very simple/pleasing interface. What are yalls thoughts?

[steep girder]

Makes sense 3rd party messenger was still running. They might have not even gotten the memo lmap

[fossil dirge]

He helped make Macs thrive as well as the introducing the iPod, iPhone, and iPad

[ashen zodiac]

arguably sure. but like, mouse was apple first. gui was apple first. smartphone as we know it now was apple first. laptops as we know them now was apple first.

microsoft does stuff well sure, i'm sitting behind a Windows pc right now. but Apple made everything Microsoft is doing mainstream.

[steep girder]

And thats why you never 'shut down' your services like this

[vapid zephyr]

So you don't actually know of his achievements, damn

[dusty rune]

our teachers were threatening us about how they see everything we do

[fossil dirge]

Damn

[fossil dirge]

I do know about his achievements

He helped revolutionize technology

[ashen zodiac]

there's an interview where he details that engineers came to him with a multitouch screen, and he said "we can make a phone out of this", couple years later boom iphone.

[fossil dirge]

I agree

[steep girder]

Are you sure graphical desktop with finder top bar was apple first?

[fossil dirge]

Everything that Microsoft made was Apple first

[steep girder]

There was also sht like amiga workbench

[fossil dirge]

It's just that now Satya Nadella wants innovation at Microsoft

Tim Cook is also a good CEO too but I think Steve Jobs was better

[ashen zodiac]

not technically, but as an actual product yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_graphical_user_interface#:~:text=Apple Lisa and Macintosh (and later%2C the Apple IIgs)

[neon mesa]

windows are the ones that actually made GUI based OS more popular

[vapid zephyr]

Don't claim you know of his achievements when you then go vague and say 'helped revolutionize technology' lmao

[steep girder]

I think even DoS graphical shell was made by somebody before microsoft. Depends on whether or not all that sht on ibm pc and amiga came before windows 1

[neon mesa]

and are also the ones that brings the first proper general OS to the mainstream (DOS, yes it's actually Q-DOS which is CP/M ripoff but still)

[ashen zodiac]

#public-chat message keep in mind Windows 1.0 released in 1985, and that was only sort of a gui. it had graphics sure but no menu bar etc

2 years after the Apple Lisa

[steep girder]

DoS was originally written by a guy in a basement. Microsoft bought it and released it first. They renamed it to MS-DOS right away i think

[ashen zodiac]

stealing someone else's work and releasing it cheaply is easy.

[neon mesa]

not gates' fault gary treated IBM dudes like they're shit

[steep girder]

Any other os called dos was an os made to be compatible with microsoft's version

[fossil dirge]

But I know that Steve Jobs was the best CEO of Apple

[steep girder]

Pretty sure thats how it goes. And compatible they were. Usually when a program only worked on microsoft dos, it was also microsoft program and they broke it on the other doses intentionally lmao

[ashen zodiac]

unix was first. way first. a full 9 years. and it was more capable.

[fossil dirge]

Windows 1.0 was released after the Macintosh and Lisa

[vapid zephyr]

Steve Jobs is either partially or entirely responsible for;

• Bringing portable music and introducing online music sales to the masses
• introducing the way we use the mouse with a computer
• Setting the current trend of modern devices
• Launching a smartphone revolution
• Inventing the concept of an app store

[neon mesa]

many of microsoft's important inventions are in the backend

like visual studio, .net framework, SQL, and many others

[fossil dirge]

But Apple sued Microsoft for copying the GUI that was on the Macintosh

[ashen zodiac]

don't forget iPad, MacBook Air...

[steep girder]

No but were talking about DOS specifically and im explaining how microsoft did release it first

[neon mesa]

sure apple made devices mainstream but basically any modern game titles break without visual studio and .net framework nowadays

[fossil dirge]

I know that Steve Jobs was known for that

[vapid zephyr]

He wasn't really responsible for kicking off a laptop boom, that happened before his relevancy as well

[steep girder]

Windows 1 through wfw 3.11 isn't even OS

[neon mesa]

and SQL is responsible for internet databases

[steep girder]

The os is really still dos.

[neon mesa]

oh don't forget DirectX

[ashen zodiac]

...that's because those games are developed for Windows. you try to run final cut pro on Windows, you can't.

[vapid zephyr]

He 100% instigated an explosion in popularity in tablets overall, though

[fossil dirge]

DirectX was first released on Windows 95

[ashen zodiac]

DirectX is an awful API. Vulkan is SO much better than it, it's almost shameful. so was Glide back in the day

[steep girder]

You installed dos and wfw 3.11 separately wfw on top of dos. They were also sold separately.

[fossil dirge]

I agree

[neon mesa]

directx is much earlier than vulkan

[vapid zephyr]

Tbf the same thing people also said about DirectX when OpenGL was still cool

[fossil dirge]

Linux has Vulkan and it works better than DirectX

[steep girder]

And all those windowses you would run after installing by typing in command 'win'

[fossil dirge]

I like DirectX too since it works well for Windows gaming

[ashen zodiac]

i mean when DirectX first came out that was true so... lmao

[fossil dirge]

But I hope that Microsoft open source DirectX

[steep girder]

It didnt even autostart with dos by defauly. Youd add it yourself to autoexec.bat if you needed

[vapid zephyr]

Overall it's pretty good, not much to whine about it
There's just better stuff now

[pliant karma]

lol I found a 10$ macintosh se from goodwill once. Keyboard, mouse included+some carrying case it was in

[ashen zodiac]

you can run vulkan on Windows, even DXVK. it runs better than native DirectX in a lot of cases lmfao

[neon mesa]

oh yeah typescript which fixed javascript shitty behavior and is responsible for most website running

[fossil dirge]

I got to try Vulkan on Windows

[pliant karma]

funny thing is that macintosh I bought has not even yellowed so the beige look still remains. The mouse and keyboard have yellowed quite significantly

[fossil dirge]

I still have my old iMac

[ashen zodiac]

that's worth a lot, just saying. hundreds probably

[steep girder]

Javascript is crappy in browsers when you use a different one than what the developers tested on/wrote for lol

[fossil dirge]

But not the one from 1998 but the one from 2001

[pliant karma]

MF still powers on like it is nothing and the original owner upgraded the ram too so I do wanna make it run off an sd card or some other format vs the dying ide drive

[vapid zephyr]

The reason most of our stuff didn't yellow is because our windows were littered with uv light window films lol

[steep girder]

Javascript itself being crappy and fixing it would be like the js itself isnt getting parsed or garbage collection broken idk

[muted hemlock]

I just used tears of laughter sob skull and moyai lol

All I need haha

[steep girder]

But ultimately the javascript calls functions implemented by whichever browser engine

They rarely get along lmfao

[neon mesa]

microsoft's contribution is really big in the backend of things
don't even get me to go into the deepest rabbit hole that is azure

[fossil dirge]

JavaScript is a good web programming language

Anyways

[neon mesa]

which is what typescript for
fixing JS

[steep girder]

Some things you had to write 3 css rules for a while which was exact same but they began with -moz- -webkit- n sht

[fossil dirge]

I don't think Bill Gates was a good person when he was CEO of Microsoft

He crushed startups and created a monopoly

[neon mesa]

tbf, ms-dos monopoly was partly gary killdal's fault

[fossil dirge]

That I can agree on

[steep girder]

Then there was also the ie6 thing up until a certain point lol. ((!<{IF $$$IE5))) />

[fossil dirge]

But that's how Microsoft made MS-DOS

Technically they didn't made it but they released it

[neon mesa]

but again, can't blame it entirely on gary since bill lied by omission

only saying important guys are coming but not exactly who

[fossil dirge]

Exactly

[steep girder]

Sorry 6. It was actually an html markdown comment but ie6 read it as own special code

[neon mesa]

oh don't forget that microsoft saved apple's ass from bankruptcy

[steep girder]

Special line of code for special browser. Good boy

[neon mesa]

well they did it to save themselves from getting anti-trusted to oblivion but still, they're why apple is still here

[fossil dirge]

True Microsoft saved Apple from bankruptcy

[neon mesa]

lol the announcement was funny

[steep girder]

Most of time though people used as not condition to load normally and if ie6 then error message. Change your browser to anything but ie lpl

[neon mesa]

steve: macs will come with office
crowd: yes yes yes
steve: internet explorer will be default
crowd: no no no no

[late osprey]

can someone rate it out of 10?

nvm

[steep girder]

Both internet explorer and windows media player. And mind you they got like sued and to this day there is at least edition without wmp

Not sure about internet explorer but they were supposed to stop lmfao

I guess back then there were other commercial browsers which started a fuss. Later on everybodys using either iexplore and the runnerups were basically free

[neon mesa]

IE killed them paid browsers

[steep girder]

But including software with os the whole point is not fair for competition selling just that software alternative

[calm swan]

damn wtf

[steep girder]

Well yeah if everyone only bought basically one os and the paid browsers had to be written for that same os. Just out of principle even because its the same market

But the os shipped with its own license to use browser free and it's pre installed

Obv microsoft crushed lol

[low rain]

I just woke up and it’s 2pm 🤯🤯🤯

[ripe jacinth]

[steep girder]

Browsers are still enough of a headache as is completely free and open source lol

[fluid hollow]

Does LTT have any recent videos that compares AMD and Intel in the laptop market? Comparing like core count, speed, battery life etc. Looking for a non gaming, laptop for development, I was looking at framework AMD and Lenovo laptops but framework's delivery time is too long, before the job starts.

[neon mesa]

there isn't really any comparison

intel laptops are just shit right now
get AMD ones, anything is better than intel equivalent

intel ones suck batteries like vampires

[steep girder]

There should ideally be one codebase. Because the only thing that holds their compatibility together is officially agreed upon standards and specifications

[neon mesa]

well it was bad, but eh it benefitted us i guess

i can't imagine paying for a browser

[gilded quest]

I think it's hard to compare cause most laptop chassis don't offer both amd and intel
(some do, but they're the minority)

[steep girder]

There are multiple like css 3 is still. Theyre also fundamentally separate but sometimes youd have like 'html 5 browser must implement css 3 to x minimum' and 'the browser must implement canvas element'

[calm swan]

jarrodstech might

whats ur budget

[fluid hollow]

like 2500 dollar

[calm swan]

false

[calm swan]

size? battery life?

[fluid hollow]

I heard that yes, I also assume its why all handhelds have amd apu's lmao
I was leaning amd anyway

[fluid hollow]

14/15 inch, battery life is important, don't need no fancy GPU

but good multithreading, fast nvme, lots of ram is important

decent IO also nice, hence why I was looking into lenovo and framework

[calm swan]

how many hours of battery

[steep girder]

If you pay attention, things important that came w html5 like canvas are implementations of just one specified element name and valid attribute names. A lot of its functionality is implemented through that same javascript you said needs to be fixed lol

[calm swan]

amd laptops generally perform worse than intel but have good battery life (only exception is 7945hx, but that "sucks power like a vampire")

[fluid hollow]

preferably a full work day (8 hours) but I assume thats a stretch when I also want something fast at compiling C++/C#/java

[steep girder]

But the html itself also evolves a bit. Only because it's deliberately made to not be compatible with xml. But then there was xhtml. html5 you dont have to always close with second tag but i think you cant ever write slash in the opening one like xml

So the markup language itself still not compat with any xml to date should be

[fossil frost]

building projects all day, the only thing that is gonna last you 8 hours is something plugged into the wall

[full fossil]

Can someone help me with windows fonts please?

[calm swan]

yup

[modest leaf]

wut u be needin?

[steep girder]

But on top of that, the validation i remember can fail because depending on which tag element has, it can change whether or not you can open or close it in some manners

[fluid hollow]

yeah I figured, but I'm not up to date with the current laptop market and maybe there was a chance :P

[low rain]

https://deals.dell.com/en-us/category/laptop-deals?sortBy=price-ascending&appliedRefinements=202,201,205,400 is this worth it?

Idk about intel and this is basically all intel cause the cpu/gpu

[calm swan]

get the slim pro 9i, faster than amd for compiling and stuff
only drawback is 5-6 hours battery

[full fossil]

I installed a dodgy font that I ripped from a website the other day, now whenever I am am on my web browser the typeface is all mixed up. I have checked with other browesers and it;s the same. I uninstalled the fonts I installed, one of them was an Arial font but when selecting the preview "fox jumps or whatever" on the font folder it's fine.

[low rain]

Oh y’all are already talking about laptops nvm

[calm swan]

inspiron mid asf (speaking from experience)

same with xps

[steep girder]

Which is horrible imo. Because this melts html as markup language and web engine together

So markup closing tags valid depend on which element it is. Element dictates idk maybe all the time which attributes are allowed.

[echo canopy]

html was a mistake

[steep girder]

JS if you want to set your own made up attribute anyways, you can only safely do so if it's not one of the standard ones

[steep girder]

I mean html is necessary in some way at the beginning. It just might have been a bad decision to include up to the markdown of elements in specification

[fossil dirge]

HTML is not a programming language

[steep girder]

Could have used xml or any other standalone markup language and only specd the stuff inside angle brace lpl

[echo canopy]

It shouldnt have evolved past something like github markdown imo

[steep girder]

Even its name screams out its real intended purpose

Actually nvm its a misnomer too. Idk which one caused which lol

[low rain]

So it’s a no?

[steep girder]

But what you want is hypertext without the markup portion

[calm swan]

yes its a no

[steep girder]

Then again maybe there are some actual things which arent easy to do with xml

[fossil dirge]

If I want to build websites than HTML, CSS, and JavaScript are the way to go

[steep girder]

Pay attention to xhtml. I remember compatibility between xhtml and xml isnt both ways or some sht. Idk. They clearly tried lol

I mean you can still write a page and set the meta doc type to xhtml and it should have that compatibility w valid xml whichever way it goes

Browsers should still support it too

[steep girder]

Nowadays people arent even writing anything on either of the three. It gets generated for them or prewritten

In the end max you remame or make the file and all of the html coding is just putting the whole frontend into the file with some static wrapper

Set favicon or hack in seo meta tags at top lol

[tardy terrace]

STEAM SUMMER SALE IS LIVE

[ashen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-you-know-it-i-know-it-everybody-knows-it-its-true-gif-24093466

[tardy terrace]

[steep girder]

Lets gooooo! 2.50$ obscure indie developer packs with like 15 games for 0.250

Ubermosh lol check the sale prices

[tardy terrace]

i fucking love sales

[vapid smelt]

THE STEAM DECK IS ON SALE

[dusty rune]

what r good games on sale

[steep girder]

I hate steam sales only because i manage to buy everything whenever there isnt one

Like i bought one cities skylines dlc i was missing yesterday

[plain dome]

the one game i wanted to go on sale
just didnt

[dusty rune]

ok but thats on you honestly

[pliant karma]

only game I really was after was forza horizon 5 lol so prob the only game I got

[vapid smelt]

take me to the dungeon

[plain dome]

and it has gone on sale every major sale + other

[dusty rune]

buying right now

[dusty rune]

which

[steep girder]

Well lol tbh i needed to spend more not less anyways. Credit card was fully paid off and its end of month :0

[plain dome]

Rocksmith 2014

[dusty rune]

i would have accepted a payday 2 dlc if you were willing to waste tbh

[steep girder]

Well nah the last dlc is a nice to have lmao. I mean payday 2 dlc sounds like a waste in general lol

[dusty rune]

i want the oil rig heist

[steep girder]

Whats so good about it? Does it have like rainbow six ballistics and destruction

[dusty rune]

no.. but its the last heist thats getting added

so it has spiritual meaning behind it

[steep girder]

Heists are exactly where Id want all of the realism

[dusty rune]

also, its a game made in diesel engine what are you expecting

wait for payday 3 if you want realism

cause apparently theres enviromental damage from the bullets and stuff

according to the few people who got to play it early

[steep girder]

Idk destructive env can become core gameplay if it's extreme enough of two polar opposites to me: super-unrealistic kind or the realistic enough kind to be bothered with

The super unrealistic kind is just doesnt matter which material and doesnt affect anything other than obstacle getting erased

[dusty rune]

i think they will make it as realistic as possible

[steep girder]

I mean yeah id hope so. Heist game with red faction 1/2 destructive env imagine

Tbh in rf1 it became really rogue like and stealthy once you blew up entire fort map and moved on to tunneling through boundary walls lmfao

In sequel, they restricted the destruction from almost whole level to gimmicky linear 'blow up this wall to unblock where you need to go'

Like one of those where you recognize by its clashing texture and geometry that it's the only thing you can blow up. A lot of times it looks like irl should have been a door but replaced with sandy looking brick wall in door frame

[ebon otter]

I’ve bough 11 games today

[fossil frost]

and you will play none of them

[steep girder]

Thats exactly what i mean by gimmicky. Geometry that just crumbles from explosions has little natural effects on core gameplay. Its usually forced in there just for the sake of having 'destructible env'

But on the other hand if you make it as realistic as having actual materials behaving like the real life thing more or less...

[hollow root]

this summer sale is mid

[ebon otter]

Thats what steam is for

[exotic jetty]

Good morning all, how is everyone?

[ebon otter]

I bought 11 games for $50 and saved 200 so I’m good

[exotic jetty]

Sounds epic

[tardy terrace]

just blew like $80

[steep girder]

Checks to see if some games in list with 0 hours still refundable. Finds one. Immediately buys it again at sale prices to save some money

[tardy terrace]

126 games \o/

[ebon otter]

Today?

[exotic jetty]

Semi Colin seems like a chill dude

[tardy terrace]

GOD NO

I meant in total owned now

[ebon otter]

Oh

[tardy terrace]

btw fuck microsoft cdn's

[exotic jetty]

Wdym

[ebon otter]

You can buy the whole valve franchise for $6

[tardy terrace]

slow ass download speeds for a 200gb flight sim, wtf is this, 2004??

[steep girder]

Semi;Colin is half ; half Colin

[exotic jetty]

How fast is your download speeds

[ebon otter]

Myn is 3mbs

[neon mesa]

how slow is this slow

[tardy terrace]

160/20 and the game is downloading at 40mb/s

[neon mesa]

megabit?

[exotic jetty]

Yesh

[ebon otter]

Megabytes a second

[exotic jetty]

That's faster then my broadband

[idle nymph]

Neat

[tardy terrace]

megabits..

[idle nymph]

Valve franchise is peak ngl

[neon mesa]

i guess that's pretty slow

[steep girder]

Yeah no msfs2020 download speed drops below your connection for a good portion even on SSD

[neon mesa]

but my internet is 40 megabits so i wouldn't notice

[dire roost]

rip

1gb gang

[exotic jetty]

My home internet get 20mb/s download speeds you should be happy with you 40 that double what I've got

[steep girder]

It depends. When it downloads a lot of tiny packages, it crawls. Sometimes though i downloaded like 3GB made of two files. Blazing fast.

[steep girder]

But if youre doing first run and downloading all 667GB of msfs and its dlc... yeah. Have a 9999 cups of tea. This might take a while

[exotic jetty]

Flex

[exotic jetty]

My mobile data which is faster then my nbn is only 120mb/s

[steep girder]

Honestly the real flex is symmetric dl/ul. I have 500mbps but still like 30 upload lmfao

[mortal kraken]

Also don't blame M$ so quick..network at your isp side can also be a issue. It's a joint effort issue

[exotic jetty]

How? that download to upload ratio is appalling

[steep girder]

Id switch to 250/250 from 500/30 any day if I could :p

[steep girder]

Cable internet. In Ontario.

[dire roost]

pogchamp

[exotic jetty]

At least you don't have Australian NBN networks

I get 3mb/s uploads speeds

[dire roost]

i have 1gb at both my parents houses but at my moms i have some shitty 20 buck modem in between so i only get 110 or sum

[steep girder]

Literally i dont think there is residential cable internet here at all with upload over 30mbps lmao. Even gigabit i looked up and still 30 max

[exotic jetty]

Wow that's is bad

[dire roost]

fr

[mortal kraken]

Need fiber then

[misty scarab]

Currently 28C with an Air Quality Index of 240

[exotic jetty]

A least you have power in your house I am sitting here in the cold slowly watching my phone die

[dire roost]

oof

[steep girder]

They actually changed all plans with 15 or something. The lowest cable upload speed whatever it was. It was so slow that they basically said it's unacceptable

[dire roost]

biggest advantage to a small country is that its easier to get fiber everywhere

[exotic jetty]

Our country skimmed out on fibre, our nbn was supposed to be fibre optics but guess what they went with the cheaper copper

[dire roost]

oof

[steep girder]

Right well fibre is the only symmetrical res connection ive had in my whole life

[mortal kraken]

Yeah they changed plans of fiber to home itself, but fiber probably still reaches as far as a distrubution board for your neighborhood or whatever.

[dull granite]

h

[dire roost]

plouffe put his profile on lightmode lmao

[steep girder]

Fibres also good because new fresh infra and it isnt overcrowded yet lmfao. Cable also has more fluctuations and unreliable speeds I heard simply because everybody on your street is downloading

[dire roost]

fibre is waaay more reliable

actually get what your paying for, almost 24/7

[exotic jetty]

Yeah possible, problem is my house is over 60 years old and we seen some of the wiring for the internet modem inside the walls and well let's just say it wasn't to code

[mortal kraken]

Fiber can suffer the same by the way, it's just that it's more forgiving. But it really depends down to the setup, you can also have very good densties (i.e: bad for consumer, good for isp in cost)

[exotic jetty]

So even if we did have fiber my house wouldn't be able to utilise it to its fullest

[mortal kraken]

GPON for example the standard they use, they can have one fiber litterly being used by 200 clients or more which can be a bit crowded. I've heard it's even theoretically possible to do 500

[steep girder]

Well i was just about to say that given my location, any fibre i get would go through Bell. Youd be surprised how unreliable anything can quickly get in Bells hands lmao

[dire roost]

never heard of Bell, thats your isp?

[mortal kraken]

Bell CA yes. One of the more sane ISPs there

[exotic jetty]

Atlleast you lot don't have telstra, it's Australia's most reliable internet provider and I mean that, but it's always dropping out, it's infuriating

Do you lot have Vodafone?

In your countries I mean

[dire roost]

i have vodafone for my mobile

[steep girder]

We recently had a second outage id witenessed of rogers that spanned entire country. This time around it was pretty much all gsm, mobile data but also cable internet

[dire roost]

thats crazy man

[exotic jetty]

Why

[dire roost]

cause its good

[exotic jetty]

It's not tho, it's so unreliable

[steep girder]

Actually i think ill take that back. I dont recall all of fibre just going belly up across Canada lmfao. Nor do I remember bells cellular having such impressive fail

[dire roost]

yea in your country

[exotic jetty]

It's the worst mobile provider in aust

[mortal kraken]

Vodafone is like a chain telecom however. It litterly depends to the region

[exotic jetty]

Aight lads I love to keep talking but I have to go

[dire roost]

aight man peace

[steep girder]

But when rogers went down last time like a year ago, it was enough. Literally stores couldnt take card payments

A lot of atms went down pretty sure

[mortal kraken]

It happens, I know a situation where Swiss major isp going down even stopped public transport to a great extent

ISPs knocking off basic utilities and facilities not a new thing

[dire roost]

in my country usually in the first few months of the year there's a lot of down time on card payments and ATMs n stuff fsr

[small zephyr]

fuck i needa sell an kidney

[misty scarab]

How cold

[steep girder]

Funny enough our servers werent affected at all in montreal and we still had a vast portion of clients in the same timezone stateside. I still had to system administrate the systems

[dire roost]

amen

[small zephyr]

the absurdly nice and large samsung odyssey ark is in sale for 1900bucks

considering its regular price is 2900 it seems worth the kidney now 😂

[misty scarab]

I asked someone before what the temperature was cause they said they were cold and they said it was 15 like since when is 15 cold

[dire roost]

i need to sell a kidney cause my next build is being bottlenecked due to my budget

[dire roost]

15 C isnt cold

[small zephyr]

im good with changing cpu and mainboard

[misty scarab]

Ikr

[dire roost]

15 F however

[misty scarab]

Is also not bad

[exotic jetty]

Idk like 10 celcus

[misty scarab]

10.. cold?!?

[mortal kraken]

15C cold af for me XD

[misty scarab]

Nah fam it was like -30 here on Christmas

[exotic jetty]

Yeah

[dire roost]

15C is cold on a cpu so its cold on my bollocks

[timid meadow]

Not bad my ass. Not the worst maybe, but thats cold af

[exotic jetty]

Exactily

[small zephyr]

still not undicided if ryzen 5 5800x3d or an i 5 ddr4 board config

[misty scarab]

It's not bad

[steep girder]

Both of which actually require cooling to perform optimally lmfao

[dire roost]

woah, are my balls a cpu?

[misty scarab]

36 degree summers, -36 degree winters. I love democracy

[dire roost]

next up, playing DOOM on a set of testicles

[dire roost]

what that gotta do with democracy 💀

[steep girder]

There is a tj max on them too

[misty scarab]

Obviously it's because the US government controls the weather /j

[dire roost]

no yea clearly

not that i would consider the US a democracy, but i digress

[steep girder]

Hence their retracting socket functionality

[misty scarab]

Representative Republic

[steep girder]

US is a constitutional republic i think

[dire roost]

i dont even know what that means, that how much of a democrat I am

[misty scarab]

Federal, Representative and Constitutional republic with democratic elections

[steep girder]

Anything is optimally a democracy if youre a we the people

[misty scarab]

I'm more of a Tar and feather the tyrants

[dire roost]

amen

[misty scarab]

They don't need these militarized police forces to protect them, they work for the people, by the consent of the people

[steep girder]

Sometimes (usually small) group of individuals benefit from oppositely as little democracy as possible... so long as they remain in that position lol

[misty scarab]

It's the core principle we were founded on

[dire roost]

just disband the US at this point

[misty scarab]

Governance by the people, for the people and with the consent of the people

[steep girder]

Because a corrupt legislature quickly goes back 100 to 0 benefit once you lose seat in cabinet

Now the turn tables have

[dire roost]

the tables turneth

[steep girder]

Right a government by design is supposed to just lubricate the bureaucratic machine by structuring some way in which a small group of people represent everyone... but that includes themselves

[dire roost]

when did it all go to crap in the US? im European so idk much about what happened after we took off back to europe

[steep girder]

US to this day since the beginning is the one and only free country by a long shot

[fossil frost]

if you genuinely think that, then there is no helping you

[full fossil]

B- but AMERICA!!!!

[steep girder]

On paper. Im not arguing that theres corruption and sht. And it is getting worse as time passes from the looks of it

[full fossil]

🇺🇸 🗽 🦅 🍔

[ashen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/sfm-soldier-tf2-meme-american-gif-24728385

[steep girder]

Well take any european country. They still have corruption despite never setting up universal and irrevocable constitutional rights per each and every individual

[fossil frost]

constitutional rights that are repeatedly and flagently ignored and violated

[steep girder]

Right. Thats definitely a problem

[fossil frost]

and have been since the start

[small zephyr]

r5 5600x or r7 5700g

i can both get for the same pricing

[fossil frost]

and other constitutional rights that are heavily exploited and interpreted in various ways to suit the agenda of those who want to get their own way

seems like the more rules there are, the more ways there are to exploit them

[steep girder]

Sometimes they get away with it by cheesy technicalities but it might be hard to fix those things. For instance, ever consider how certain guns can be illegal to have or carry done by the state?

[fossil frost]

they are illegal to buy, sell, have, carry, exist... unless, you or your parents, or your friends, or anybody you know, or has heard of these guns... has had one, then you are ok to have one too

[steep girder]

Tbh some states you cant even use them to defend yourself lol. Basically cant even shoot a person

Well technically theyre restrictions on top of the 2nd amendment or whichever one they 'violate'

[fossil frost]

no automatic weapons... unless you already have one, then you can have whatever you want

full ID and background check when you buy any weapon, unless its a private sale, or at a show, or literally anywhere at all other than an actual registered gun shop

[ashen zodiac]

politics

[steep girder]

In other words, nobody took your right to bear arms away. Theyre just restrictions

[fossil frost]

and then its only if the system isnt down

i dont live in the USA, and im very glad i dont, it would be horrific to live in large parts of it

[graceful burrow]

True 🤝

[ashen zodiac]

<@&750150305383186585> politics

[dire roost]

love redirecting budget to get a better mobo 😍

[tardy terrace]

powitics,,

[dire roost]

sorry i just was interested

[ashen zodiac]

pOwOlitics

[split radish]

I am looking for a game:
The whole game is Black & White
It is paper themed
There are paperplanes & cannons
You play a Stickman
It is a platformer and you need to get to the top of the level
It has a speedrun category

EDIT:
I think its a pretty recent game & I think it was on itch.io at some point

Can anyone name this game? Would really appreciate it (:

[plush rivet]

Oh boy I see mod tags

[warm path]

people can u help me on my tech support thread?

[ashen zodiac]

Sounds like you’re looking for the 1980’s lmfao

[steep girder]

Yes but thats why the us also has a federal level place called 'supreme court'. States can in fact act in ways which violate all others' constitutional rights. They can sue eachother there. Ideally there is something wrong with restricting all guns from being carried under second amendment lol. But it has to be proven violation of somebody's constitutional rights. The judges in supreme court are just like any other judge: they must come to the correct ruling based on established laws

[ashen zodiac]

@split radish this description ff sounds like a lot of games from that era

[plush rivet]

Dude stop
I don’t even need to read this to see it’s political

[dire roost]

sssshhh powitics not awwowed

[ashen zodiac]

[plush rivet]

stop with the politics

[split radish]

I think its a pretty recent game & I think it was on itch.io at some point

[steep girder]

In supreme court, on top of everything, theyre tasked with finding the violations of constitution

[plush rivet]

oh shit I’m in public chat?
Never mind this is a usual

[dire roost]

lmaoo

[ashen zodiac]

Stop it!

[dire roost]

what do you mean #rules

[ashen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/times-up-time-to-stop-stop-it-clock-gif-14809690

[plush rivet]

You think that means shit here?

[dire roost]

you'd hope so

i remember they banned the S word

and over 10 second slow mode

[elfin solar]

Give over 🤣

[dire roost]

i was tricked

whahaha karma strikes

[ashen zodiac]

Caps lock limit lmfao

[steep girder]

Well yeah i mean the whole point is im showing you a place where its supposed to 100% apolitical. Supreme court isnt supposed 'decide' or 'control' anything in actuality. They merely carry out the duty of finding out what is the correct ruling which in their case is the ruling with least possible amount of constitutional violations

[dire roost]

that was even more perfect

[ashen zodiac]

True

[plush rivet]

Holy hell your not done

[steep girder]

Now i am

[ashen zodiac]

Fuck off already good god

[vapid smelt]

stop looking at my ass

[dire roost]

bro take a hint

[plush rivet]

Cool
Now stop being political

[steep girder]

Fine lol whatevs

[ashen zodiac]

[dire roost]

[full fossil]

WTF gamelink is from the future

[polar fern]

Will be neat to see wht creator outlets like LMG do with spacial computing when more than just headsets use it - set inputs like cameras etc will be cool i bet

[neon mesa]

Glad to see linus step down just to help small channels

Gotta help the little guys get on their feet

[polar fern]

uh?

[neon mesa]

It's a joke

[polar fern]

-.-

i think one of the biggest issues with LMG is the surgical tight schedulling

the pop air is a neat case, just wish the 5.25 drive bays were on the top

too much stuff in the way down near the desk

i dunno for how much longer fractal is gonna make the focus g, having released the focus 2... hoping they keep both as there is definitely a use for dual 5.25 bay cases & the focus g is a decent overall design with a ton of cooling flexibility

[somber crane]

Even that is not an entirely correct interpretation, part of their role is to reconcile differences in understandings and contexts, and assist with changing times, as law and constitution in a commonlaw system are open to interpretation

[polar fern]

oh boy

[fierce moth]

Jesus I spent the entire night playing vr

I completely lost track of time

[dire roost]

stop w the politicsss

[somber crane]

Politics and civics are not the same thing

[ashen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-explaining-gif-13403485

[dire roost]

doesnt belong in this chat either way

[small zephyr]

🤔 okay i found an bargain deal for an asrock b550m steel legend and the 5600g for 230bucks combined just opted for that

[dire roost]

thats a FAT bargain what the

[polar fern]

we know things arent right in the world, can we narrow the conversation down to tech related-ish stuff pls thanks click goodbye -hangs up-

[small zephyr]

worlds above my msi b450m pro vdh max with the 1600af

[dire roost]

for 230 bucks too

[polar fern]

@small zephyr thats actually a really good deal - gotta wonder what is wrong with the board hahaha

[small zephyr]

130bucks each but the mobo got an 20% off voucher

[small zephyr]

🤔 new etc display item

[dire roost]

zamn thats like almost as much as my cpu alone

[polar fern]

oh its a floor model?

[small zephyr]

if it aint working i can return it

finaly i will be able to use my argb fans the corect way and have samp

[somber crane]

To be more specific politics can be defined as adding opinion to law and civics

[polar fern]

floor model hardware is often a good deal.

[small zephyr]

and fuck somehow asrock got some of the best looking motherboards in general

[dire roost]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-cringe-cringe-oh-no-kimo-kimmo-gif-23168319

[gilded quest]

ASRock is on their way up

[small zephyr]

i usualy dont like light themed hardware but that silvery metaly color of the steel legend looks awesome

and the steel legend got one feature i desperatly need

[dire roost]

true, i almost went with a steel legen mobo too but then i realized id have to use 2 different rgb softwares and i wasnt up for that

[small zephyr]

spdif out

[dire roost]

what do you need spdif out for

[small zephyr]

i have corsair ram i will need 2 softwares anyways

[polar fern]

dearest @somber crane can you please follow both th literal and spirit of the rules regarding politics etc? your interactions here are a reflection on the rest of us and i'd rathern ot be associalted with dumpter fire commentary 🙂

[small zephyr]

my logitech z906 will unleash its full potential with optical

[dire roost]

not with msi mystic light 😎

[small zephyr]

my mystic light cant

[steep girder]

Ermm.. Idk. I'm kinda iffy on the changing times part. I think what youre describing is the interpretationalist way to look at it. Whichever one is opposite to textualism. That's a big debate right now

[dire roost]

the mod @ is tempting rn

[small zephyr]

wait i will have 3

[dire roost]

3 of what

[small zephyr]

i have razer synapse for my mouse and its charging dock

rgb

[full fossil]

no point, they stopped for now

[dire roost]

cant u use uhh that one 3rd party software

[small zephyr]

if i had an not ugly plastic scratched up af atx case i would have gotten an asus strix b550

[dire roost]

yea i went in with it at first too so i dont feel its my place anyway

[small zephyr]

horever my atx case sucks and its from thermaltake and wont fit my 240mm aio

[polar fern]

@small zephyr this is the one i plan to get for new pc. 🙂

[steep girder]

But mind you, in practice, they are still undoing rulings because they were 'wrong'. So one way or another, it indicates that theres some pre-existing law which isn't decided upon by even the ruling itself

[dire roost]

what case

[dire roost]

that is smexy

this what im getting

[polar fern]

agree- and dual 16x slots is perfect for what i need

[dire roost]

you runnin SLI in 2023?

[small zephyr]

lol i may get that jonsbo d41 case tho

[somber crane]

The changing times part is hypercritical because technology, as one example, has necessitated changes in governance

An excellent apolitical example is changing laws and interpretations regarding transportation and motion, from the days of horses to modern automobiles

Some interpretations are inherently no longer valid due to changes in how we move

[small zephyr]

its only 120 bucks and included an huuge ass display in the front

[polar fern]

bottom-most slot prolly gonna be a wifi/bluetooth card

[small zephyr]

https://static3.caseking.de/media/image/thumbnail/gejb-115_gejb_115_01_800x800.jpg looks okay

[dire roost]

a bluetooth card?

[small zephyr]

i like the display xD

[dire roost]

just get one o dem usb stickies

[full fossil]

Motherboards never seem to have enough slots

[dire roost]

thats actually fire

[small zephyr]

bluetooth card? lmao i use an internal usb plug for an bluetooth stick

[small zephyr]

and its only 120bucks on preorder

[dire roost]

i got this

[polar fern]

it'll be a dual wifi/bluetooth card =

[small zephyr]

thermaltake is cancer

[dire roost]

ooo fair nuff

[dire roost]

why

[small zephyr]

because their quality is in 90% of their products garbage

its a wonder my thermaltake psu still didnt blow up its on the change it imediantly tier

[dire roost]

i just watched some reviews and thought it looks better than the 1000D airflow

[dire roost]

lmaoo dw im only getting a thermaltake case 💀

[steep girder]

But thats the whole idea of it. The constitution applies to and protects everybody indiscriminately and nobody can change it. If you want to adapt to times by changing some interpretation, youre saying that there is a law which can get applied inconsistently. If you want to change the constitution, youre setting a precident through which more changes can be made as opposed to never before

[small zephyr]

thermaltake is just an poor quality company that also sells some high end stuff

[dire roost]

idk man the case is gonna be my first experience with the brand

[polar fern]

this is the case i bought. gonna have exhaust fans on top and on the back to keep the fresh air flowing over the cpu cooler and gpu

[small zephyr]

horever i find that even 40bucks aerocool cases got higher quality and aestethics as thermaltakes 100bucks cases

[stray apex]

you can change the constitution
it's part of the constitution

[polar fern]

aerocool has the funniest stuff

[small zephyr]

i would dislike it a week after purchase

i have the aerocool trinity mini v3 in pink

[polar fern]

well my girlfriend likes blue & i'm kinda using space in her place for it

[small zephyr]

https://static3.caseking.de/media/image/thumbnail/gesi-390_gesi_390_01_800x800.jpg

i got it for 40bucks without the rgb fans

horever i brought some uphere fans on amazon for 10bucks for 5 of em xD now i have all fan slots covered

and i got the badass overkilled rx6650xt from asus rog strix

[dire roost]

@small zephyr https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zgn6v3 this is my build

[dire roost]

hey i have that for my old pc in white

[polar fern]

yeah they sent me the hite case by accident and said to keep it as their inventory was messed up for the listing

this was office depot

[dire roost]

rip

[somber crane]

You aren’t wrong, the constitution gets both applied and interpreted, and these interpretations must change with our changing world and understanding

For a different approach, take the 2A stuff, modern interpretation focuses on the individual, but the intention behind it was militia for national defense against internal and external threats

If we were to take a more strict approach at following it without adapting for the times, no individual would possess a right to bear arms, but militias would have unrestricted rights and could operate nuclear squadrons

[polar fern]

but i cant have white - too much glare so i have a free white case and the blue one is on its way here haha

[ashen zodiac]

there's still politics

[dire roost]

really? i love white

[polar fern]

<@&750150305383186585> @somber crane politics

[dire roost]

momo in action

[polar fern]

i like the white, but its next to two windows an it'll glare my eyeballs into goo

[dire roost]

ohyea dont want that

[steep girder]

Ok well stop sry!

Im stupid anyways because i forgot article v lmfao.

[polar fern]

the petrol blue is one of those "industrial enamel" type colors - i dont see many photos of it online to show but yeah it gonna be cool

[small zephyr]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cbpBQ6 that will be mine as soon cpu and mobo arives

[polar fern]

i am planning to give the white one away, but not sure how to... working on the details

[dire roost]

i just avoid having my pc in direct sunlight anyway cause with slanted windows in my attic rooms, it usually has a bit of a "burning ants with a magnifying glass" effect

[small zephyr]

🤔 mouse is the razer basilisk ultimate keyboard an womier wk61

[vapid smelt]

not sure if you have enough ram

[small zephyr]

wait if i count the keyboard tool i will have 4 rgb softwares lmao

🤷‍♂️ 2sticks of rgb ram just dont look right

they always look so lonely as if they want some brothers

[vapid smelt]

0 rgb ram looks way better

[polar fern]

yeah i have no choice unfortunately, but the blinds are good and its only like 3 hours a day it gets direct sun. i also plan to modify the side window so it dont act like a greenhouse

[small zephyr]

i may have less performance like this but now i can comfortably play games like cod and have stuff open in the background

[dire roost]

wouldnt go with the 6650 tbh, maybe look to the used market? idk how it is in your area

[small zephyr]

i got the 6650xt for 300bucks welp basicly for negative 50bucks

[dire roost]

somebody paid you 50 bucks to use a 6650? even then thats an iffy deal

[small zephyr]

i sold while buying it my 5500xt for 350bucks in an ebay auction 😂

[dire roost]

lmaoo

[polar fern]

i'm looking at a 6650 xt for around $250

[small zephyr]

🤷‍♂️ and the 6650xt would be an massive improvement over the 5500xt if i didnt have that garbage 1600af cpu that bottlenecks it

[dire roost]

im not one to talk regardless, i have that 2060 cause a friend of mine upgraded to a 3070 so i got his 2060 for 150 bucks (he payed 550, pandemic gamer)

[small zephyr]

and i hope with the 5600g i will be able to use higher speeds with 4 sticks of ram since now i can only use 2933mhz

[ivory lily]

I bought a gpu on aliexpress for 79 euros that was titled rx 580 but in the description it said rx 570 lmao. Its probably a mining card too

[small zephyr]

nah i dont want nvdia

[dire roost]

def

[small zephyr]

they need to come down from their high horses

[polar fern]

5600g should be good as long as you keep the cooler clean

[ivory lily]

it will arrive soon 💀

[small zephyr]

so amd it is, since intel arc is not realy a thing in germany

[dire roost]

i dont care tbh, current nvidia are bumming everybody out but i got a sweet ass deal from my friend