public-chat

[quick basin]

I like the feel of metal cards but they get fucked

plastic is more forgiving

[pliant karma]

oh yea I try to use the tap more then swiping or inserting

or purely apple pay

[quick basin]

yup, or else you get ugly lines

[near nymph]

I've swiped and inserted this card a good bit. It depends on the machine doe. Some destroy cards lol

[quick basin]

wait, you guys can still swipe?! 💀💀💀💀

[pliant karma]

which I use apple pay 90% of the time so my wallet is very much so thin without me carrying any cash maybe 20$ but that is about it.

[near nymph]

I had a card that I've only used like 2 times. The chip looks destroyed

[quick basin]

whaaaat, that’s so dumb, you can clone ur cards on a phone top up card 💀💀💀

[pliant karma]

some places don't have tap to pay

[near nymph]

Murica! Swipe lmfao

[quick basin]

europe disabled swipes like 15 years ago

[near nymph]

Mastercard is phasing out the magnetic strip soon. Thank God

[quick basin]

we only have the chip and tap options

it’s dangerous, really easy to clone

[pliant karma]

now ultimate question do you go cashless? I've started doing that recently so just debit and credit card

[near nymph]

I had to explain to an American restaurant that kept bypassing the pin menu that my card requires chip and pin. Silly Americans use chip but no pin on credit cards

[quick basin]

nah, cash ftw

[near nymph]

I haven't carried cash in awhile. Doesn't make sense to carry when pretty much all vendors take credit. Unless it's a prostitute or illegal shit

[quick basin]

no pin? how is that possible?

[pliant karma]

I will say apple pay came in handy once when I left my wallet at home and wanted to get food at my college apple pay ftw

[quick basin]

is that even an option? no womder you have so many card thefts

[near nymph]

Just America. I'm Canadian lol

[quick basin]

crazy tbh

[crude jasper]

we have pin on debit atleast. credit its much much easier to catch fraudulent use

debit fraudulent use? good luck

[quick basin]

ofcourse, when it earns them money they can’t miss out

[near nymph]

You realize merchants loose money when fraud happens?

[quick basin]

I was joking about banks letting thiefs get people into debt using credit

[crude jasper]

no doubt its dumb that credit doesn't have pin here, but it doesn't affect the end user very much

[full fossil]

Hey everyone so I'm looking to do some content creation (like color correction and stuff of that nature on davinci resolve) and some streaming of photoshop (as I'm a practicing artist) and minecraft without shaders but a few mods like sodium and such anyone got any recommendations? P.S budget is a grand

USD

[patent matrix]

Sorry if this is rude, but I've given myself a lot of anxiety over a technical issue, and was wondering if anyone could just check my thread in tech support, thank you

[full fossil]

and yes I've been looking on amazon and best buy

[near nymph]

Mac mini? Lol

[full fossil]

streaming is a problem for that

[near nymph]

How?

OBS Studio can run off Apple Silicon

[full fossil]

mainly MC as no native mac silicon port exists

[fast ruin]

i dont get the cables for the psu, pls help, i don't know what connects to which socket, im using the RM850E corsair psu.

[near nymph]

Minecraft Java can run natively on Apple Silicon...

[full fossil]

oh that's news to me

[wary vine]

Minecraft?

Bro I love minecraft

[full fossil]

thought it used rosetta (or however you spell that)

[near nymph]

Eh older versions of Minecraft do. Even then the performance is still pretty good

[full fossil]

alright well the thing is it would be cheaper to go windows as I'll have to buy the mac mini, keyboard, mouse, and a good monitor

[near nymph]

1.19 and above all run natively. The launcher itself I think runs on Rosetta doe

[full fossil]

and macs are expensive

[quick basin]

well, they are getting cheaper tbf

[full fossil]

for a m2 it's over a grand

[near nymph]

Keyboards and mouse ain't expensive. Don't get the apple ones unless you hate yourself.

You'll need to spend a good amount of money on a monitor anyways if you want accurate colours

[full fossil]

way over budget

[quick basin]

m1 mac mini is like 600

great deal, only 25-30% slower than m2

[near nymph]

It's $799 CAD...

For the M2 one...

[quick basin]

exactly, thought that a grand is too much

[near nymph]

You said USD right? Shouldn't be that much...

[quick basin]

apple is getting ok, huh?

[full fossil]

ah I'm US based though and the entire setup (at least for the monitor and computer) need to be a under a grand

[quick basin]

never expected to be happy with a mac and ipad, lifelong android/linux/windows user

[near nymph]

Okay? So get a cheap monitor and keyboard and mouse. Lol

[full fossil]

that can do accurate colors?

[quick basin]

fair point

[pliant karma]

student education store in the US

[near nymph]

If you want a colour accurate monitor under 1k with a PC... Go home

[quick basin]

xiaomi 2k gaming momitor has amzing colors for the price

look into it

[near nymph]

Unless you are happy to buy used I guess.

Then you would need to shop on second hand market yourself

[full fossil]

I might get a cheap 2nd monitor for looking at stream and I'm fine buying used as long as it's not from amazon (they kind of screwed me lol)

[quick basin]

idk about used apple, if something goes wrong you are done, especially with a mac mini

[full fossil]

hm I can try backmarket they seem to be decent

[near nymph]

Second hand market. You are on your own.

The prices are different around the world.

[full fossil]

or not

8GB of ram lol

[quick basin]

and if it breaks or is broken, gooooood luck, they are impossible to repair and apple will tell you to suck it.

[pliant karma]

lol yea it do be that way

[crude jasper]

soldered storage ~ so great!

[near nymph]

Meh. Thunderbolt for storage. If you wanna go new and have a small budget. Eh. Dunno what to do with ya.

[full fossil]

ya again fine going used

as long as it's from a reputable source

[near nymph]

Great. Reputable sources... When I mean used I mean Facebook marketplace lol and AliExpress

[full fossil]

looking on the official apples site

at there refurbished section and they seem to have really good deals

[near nymph]

Sure. Just be aware the MBA doesn't have active cooling.

[pliant karma]

yea I have a bunch of external drives I use lol but I still just went with the 1tb ssd on board though it helps with files I have temp on here

[full fossil]

like a 13 inch MBP with a m2 chip for less then $950

[near nymph]

Great. Get it then. don't forget taxes.

[pliant karma]

wait are you in the US?

[full fossil]

ya it's fine if it goes a little over a thousand and yes I am

[near nymph]

If your fine going over $1k you could look at framework lol 😆

[long briar]

Accurate isn't hard, getting coverage above srgb is.

[full fossil]

true

but I also like MacOS and it's semi hard to do on a framework

due to compatibility of the parts

[long briar]

sooo mac mini?

[full fossil]

nope a mac book pro

that's kind of known for their accurate colors (going apple refurbished)

[near nymph]

So you want a hackintosh... Should have said that at the start. Lol

If you want a Mac. Then get a Mac

[full fossil]

no I just want something that can run MacOS

[rough birch]

I like HDDs soely cause of the sound.I don't get that with SSDs. Kinda why I wanna boot my phone off hard drive

[near nymph]

You didn't say that earlier.

[pliant karma]

lol I am tring to do that, much harder then i thought

[full fossil]

well because I was open to running windows then

and can't afford it right here right now but I do have a job (just don't know when I start)

[near nymph]

😂 then grab a Mac if you want a Mac 😂

[full fossil]

yet hopefully will find that out Wednesday

[long briar]

accurate enough sure, but moreso because mbp are designed to cover dcip3, not just srgb

[rough birch]

Actually I just don't like them that much

[near nymph]

I hope that has 16gb of ram 😂

8gb is like... Soo... last gen

[long briar]

but ironically the old 2021 model mbp 14" M1 has more accurate colors out of the box than the new model

[full fossil]

only 8GB of ram rip

so ya looks like I'm looking at another computer

[quick basin]

it does?

I can now feel proud to be outdated

wait, does that apply to 16?

[long briar]

While yes, it's not hard to see Apple squeeze more out of 8gb than windows can with 16 sometimes...

[full fossil]

hm or I could go with a windows based laptop and just throw linux on it

and then mod linux to look like MacOS

[near nymph]

You aren't running photo shop on it then

[full fossil]

no but a VM

[quick basin]

you can run photoshop on linux lmfao

[near nymph]

But yes Fedora is pretty fucking nice. Get a DIY framework. Getting ram on Amazon and SSD off Amazon is cheaper

[full fossil]

can manage that quite easily especially on a comparable computer

[quick basin]

easy wine config

[full fossil]

ya but it doesn't run well

[long briar]

2021 16" mbp M1 has slightly more accurate colors than the 2023 M2 mbp, but 2021 also has lower contrast

[quick basin]

it runs fine for me, idk

[full fossil]

so might just dual boot windows and linux

[quick basin]

perfect, i can now feel happy about something I will never benefit from

[long briar]

while the 2021 14" is better in just about every way for productivity than the 2023 in terms of its built in screen

[quick basin]

linus will look more realistic lmfao

[full fossil]

and yes AMD is still better then intel in terms of price per performance

[near nymph]

Eh not always but sure

[full fossil]

it depends on what CPU you get yes

[near nymph]

Wtf I said not always. Of course it depends on the CPU

[manic torrent]

It doesn't matter hugely, really.

[long briar]

either way, they all average a deltae of under 2, so it's plenty good. The maxes is where some differences can be seen, but even the maxes are under 3 which is still basically inperceivable to most people

[full fossil]

but generally it's a bit better (but hey intel is catching up which is good because competition is good)

[near nymph]

There are some great modern i3 CPUs that run like a champ

[full fossil]

ya but for what I need it for

[near nymph]

Competitive in pricing also

[full fossil]

i3 ain't going to cut it

[long briar]

If this mattered, I would argue my free pentium e5200 system sis better than AMD because it's free = infinite price to performance

[full fossil]

lol it wasn't free to make though

[long briar]

https://www.amd.com/en/legal/notices/antitrust-ruling.html
Intel kinda needed to let AMD catch up...

[full fossil]

ya true

been having a 6700 xt sitting for a while now and i'm trynna catch up, is it still good for a gaming rig?

[long briar]

and because AMD caught up, Intel had this happen https://www.reuters.com/technology/intel-wins-appeal-against-12-bln-eu-antitrust-fine-2022-01-26/

This is what people fail to see

[near nymph]

Lmfao you realized how silly you sound. You can get a modern i3 and i5 CPU that perform perfectly well for photoshop and other tasks.

[full fossil]

but streaming?

[near nymph]

Also adobe photo shop will benefit greatly from quicksync

[long briar]

i5 is plenty for streaming

[full fossil]

minecraft with mods

[near nymph]

Run it off a GPU or use quicksync. As long as you aren't using software encoding

[long briar]

besides, you can qsv or nvenc that crap

[full fossil]

hm true

[long briar]

or if you've got RDNA 2 or newer, AMF is not horrible either

[full fossil]

tbh I have 0 clue what your saying

nexgen

[long briar]

they're all hardware video encoders

[full fossil]

ah I'm software not hardware lol

[long briar]

basically fixed function hardware.

[full fossil]

ya thanks for explaining

[long briar]

so that it can take the strain off your CPU

[near nymph]

It's just all marketing. i3 i5 i7 i9.

[full fossil]

yep

[near nymph]

I would take a modern i3 than a Skylake i7

[full fossil]

ya newer = better

[near nymph]

Well... No

[long briar]

13100 outperforms the 7700k by quite a bit

[full fossil]

usually

I agree it's not always the case

[near nymph]

And people were streaming on the 7700k just fine years ago.

[long briar]

and I think even the 8700, though the core counts throw my estimates off a bit

K thought so

obv much better single core, but since this is non AVX workloads where the new CPU's tech doesn't change much, it still loses because of 4 less threads

[near nymph]

But whatever. Modern i3 can go neck to neck with a Kabylake i7 it seems

[full fossil]

tbh I'm running an kaby lake refresh i5 in my laptop atm

[long briar]

nah it's not even close lmaoo

[near nymph]

It's a Kabylake mobile chip. If you have a desktop i3 it will pound it

[full fossil]

so not the newest but it does the job for most tasks

[long briar]

I still run a 7700k

[full fossil]

and yes it's a laptop so mobile

[near nymph]

Overclock that baby. Make it scream

[long briar]

Steve from gamers Nexus still runs an FX8350.

[near nymph]

Because for personal use. It doesn't fucking matter. It plays HornHub and YouTube. Does emails. Does basic shit just fine

[long briar]

ehe-

[quick basin]

crazy huh? i feek like skylake just came out

intel was such a scummy company back then

[full fossil]

ya but for me I also run a business off my laptop so it's a bit of both worlds

[long briar]

still is, but so is very company.

With a few exceptions, they're all out to make money first and foremost.

[near nymph]

What business.

[quick basin]

not as much, not scummy enought to release 4 of the same products as new

skylake, caby lake, coffee lake

[long briar]

If you're referring to 14nm, 8th gen was a pretty large improvement, 6th and 7th gen were the same but they kinda had to.

[quick basin]

same trash , other name

[near nymph]

If this laptop helps you make a good amount of money. You shouldn't be just spending $1k on it.

[long briar]

You say trash, but you had no other choice did you at the time

[quick basin]

i had both, barely any improvement in ipc

[austere cape]

can u help me in #1106613567966429224

[long briar]

Intel actually played their hand really well

[full fossil]

I have multiple a MC server for neurodiverse folk, a shop that sells mainly coloring pages that support neurodiverse folks (will donate a portion of the funds to ASAN and other neurodiverse organizations that I know of that are actually not scummy)

[long briar]

https://www.amd.com/en/legal/notices/antitrust-ruling.html
Intel kinda needed to let AMD catch up...
and because AMD caught up, Intel had this happen
https://www.reuters.com/technology/intel-wins-appeal-against-12-bln-eu-antitrust-fine-2022-01-26/

This was copypasted from my message earlier

[full fossil]

cough autism speaks cough

[long briar]

Intel improved performance to stay relevant enough so that AMD can find its footing

but they needed AMD to catch up to avoid fines

[near nymph]

Great so... How much are you making? Why is your budget only $1k. If you're running a business on it.

[quick basin]

wtf are this excuses? they literally admitted they COULD NOT move oast 14, they just couldn’t

[long briar]

where are we now

[quick basin]

their 10nm was making like a 20% tield

[full fossil]

because that's how much I can afford from my actual job I'm using to pay for the business (haven't advertised it at all)

[quick basin]

I think you need to scroll up and read my comments mr intel fanboy.

[full fossil]

that's how most businesses start believe it or not

[long briar]

Why would intel waste resources developing something but not releasing it until AMD (who everyone predicted would go out of business) catches up

[quick basin]

you see the "back then" in here? gosh u fanboys are illogical

[near nymph]

Oh I know. I'm a business owner. 😂

[full fossil]

awesome

[long briar]

We all know what happens to innovation when there's no competition

[quick basin]

they literally said their yield on 10nm was like 20%

even if they wanted to move past 14 they could not, linus said it, what are you even defending?

[full fossil]

ya for me I just want to try to make the world a little more neurodiverse friendly through education and changing laws

but the changing laws will come later

[long briar]

If they had started earlier, they could've. But that would've been a waste of money + look where we are now, the gap was only 1 generation... and this is what I'm referring to.

[quick basin]

omfg, i can’t

[near nymph]

And I do basic CAD work on a old Skylake laptop... So I don't see the use of you upgrading if your budget is super limited. I would be allocating it on other things.

[long briar]

That's AMD. When you have no competition, you don't innovate

Why waste resources on RnD when you can just run what you have and milk the most out of it

[full fossil]

oh this is the budget just for a laptop I have everything else allocated

[quick basin]

brooo, amd always hadd competition yet didn’t innovate. you are clearly clueless on the matter

[long briar]

that's how businesses work, Intel isn't about innovation, it's about making the shareholders happy by making the most money

[quick basin]

look at fx, they didn’t have competition? bro has an intel and gets emotional

[full fossil]

it's mainly paying for the servers that the business runs off of (which is only $50 for 4 servers and a website)

[long briar]

fx? competition? lol

[quick basin]

that’s not the point, we are talking about the 5 years of 14nm, that rhey COULD NOT move past

[long briar]

are they past it now?

[full fossil]

honestly that's how all for profit companies work (at least here in the US)

[quick basin]

bro, just quit. go plant potatoes or something

[near nymph]

Companies making money. What a surprise

[long briar]

Potato planting season isn't here yet, best is mid july because of frost season

[quick basin]

bro thinks intel took so long to move past 14nm cause they wanted to 🤡

[long briar]

but obviously you wouldn't know

[quick basin]

yeah, i’m sorry I wasn’t informed by their executive team like you were

[long briar]

You keep attacking me for what reason? Because I stated something you didn't agree with?

[quick basin]

bro, they admitted they had a yield of 20% on 10nm, how much more factual csn you get?

[long briar]

I'm telling you right now, very few companies will continue RnD when there's no reason to move forward

[quick basin]

k

[near nymph]

Imma side with nexgen on this. Lmfao.

[full fossil]

same

[manic torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-good-news-everyone-professor-farnsworth-great-news-gif-17213270

[quick basin]

on this I agree too

[long briar]

And that's why Intel had low yields for 10nm

[quick basin]

on the 14nm no, they literally couldn’t get a good yield

[long briar]

they didn't care for it until AMD went to tsmc 12nm (?)

[near nymph]

TSMC yields are fucking great

[quick basin]

but intel had 20% yield on 10nm for like ever

[long briar]

14nm yields were great lmao

[near nymph]

Samsung latest nodes aren't that great

[long briar]

that's why they stayed on it. It made money and performed good enough

[quick basin]

yes, and 10nm was like 20% for ages cause they couldn’t get it to work, they had 10nm chips at 1ghz lmao

[vapid smelt]

fx was horrible the laptop i5 240m had the same single core performance and was relased the same year as the fx 8350

[quick basin]

look up their history, i was keeping up real time

[spare lintel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfZKkUg8jgM
Reddit breaks the law to quell protests (they are restoring user deleted data and refuses to delete them, this should go to wan show)

[quick basin]

no shit, fx was garbage

[full fossil]

off topic but anyone go a opinion on this laptop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-zephyrus-14-fhd-144hz-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-16gb-ddr4-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-512gb-pcie-ssd-moonlight-white/6494633.p?skuId=6494633

[long briar]

so if FX was garbage and AMD didn't have anything to answer intel, why would Intel innovate

[full fossil]

for the price don't think it's to bad

[long briar]

Intel pulled 10nm together pretty quickly all things considered, given how much time they spent just milking 14nm

[full fossil]

and has upgradable ram

[quick basin]

bro said amd was bad because they did not have competition, that’s why i brought fx up

[long briar]

Don't put words in my mouth.

[quick basin]

here

[long briar]

I did not say AMD was bad, I said AMD was failing to compete.

That's a fact. Intel's 4770k stock would beat the 8350 at 8ghz

[near nymph]

Lol

[quick basin]

that was my point, amd always had competition yet was trash

[long briar]

that's not competition then

[quick basin]

intel had good products, that is competition against them. Anw, fact remains, i tel could barely move past 14nm

[long briar]

AMD would not have a response to Intel core i series until Ryzen in what, 2017?

[full fossil]

well since no one wants to give a opinion on the laptop I sent I'm off to bed it's just about 10:30 here and I'm just drained

[quick basin]

they even changed the name to intel 7 instead of 10nm to save face

they had a roadmap that said they would have 3nm by now 🤡

[full fossil]

physcially and mentally

[near nymph]

Go look at framework.

[full fossil]

physically*

[quick basin]

they planned 10nm like 3 years earlier than it came out, coffee kale should have been 10nm according to their roadmap

[long briar]

When transistor density is the same as TSMC 7nm, it's justified.

[quick basin]

doesn’t matter, we measure their size

[long briar]

You can't compare lithiography between semiconductor fabs because of the differences in how they measure the size

[full fossil]

a bit over budget for AMD lol (by about 49$)

[quick basin]

fair, but yeah, if intel 14nm was 14nm, then intel 10nm should be called 10nm, not marketing bs

[ionic abyss]

good movie

[long briar]

and Intel 10nm is most certainly 10nm, nobody but intel calls it intel 7.

[near nymph]

Install your own ram and SSD. Cheaper than direct from framework

[quick basin]

shows you how embarrassed they were, if you look up their old roadmaps you will ‘die’ from laughter

[long briar]

Except when comparing to TSMC, TSMC 7nm is equivalent to Intel 7 or 10nm

that's the entire point of that marketing number.

[quick basin]

Just marketing bs lol

[long briar]

how is it BS when it's a more comparable number to their largest competitor's fabs

[ionic abyss]

good movie

[full fossil]

but I'll see my actual budget after my first couple of paychecks come in ($1000 was more of a rough estimate)

[quick basin]

because it’s intel 10nm

[long briar]

And Intel 10nm = TSMC 7nm

[graceful burrow]

What movie

[quick basin]

should call it intwl 10. they just cause confusion,

[ionic abyss]

rise of the beasts

[quick basin]

fanboy mindset lmfao

Bro, you won’t change my mind. Linus said the exact same thing on the wan show. Just marketing bs because they had to save face, and it mskes sense

[long briar]

you agreed that the way lithiography is measured is different between fabs, and thus cannot be directly compared.
this is a perfect example of such a case

[quick basin]

Exactly, intels fab measures it as 10nm, so it’s intel 10

[long briar]

and if they measure it the way TSMC measures theirs, it's Intel 7

do you not see the issue

[quick basin]

how do they know? It;s a different fab, different methods, they shouldmind their business

[long briar]

this is why standards exist, which there are none for this

[quick basin]

they didn’t do this bs with 14nm, they shouldn’t do it with 10.. simple as that

it so happens that the time they changed to intel 7 was when they could barely manage to move on, I doubt it a coinsidence

[ionic abyss]

intel needs to stop renaming stuff

[quick basin]

they’re just lost

scummy company, they always find a way to sell you a new chipset

[long briar]

the standard transistor measurements (just like any other small thing actually) is million/metre^2, where Intel 10nm measures 100.76 and TSMC 7nm measures 91.2

the difference while seemingly large, is the most comparable

so intel 10nm is actually more dense than tsmc 7nm

this is why the way they measure lithiography should be standardized

[quick basin]

bro, that doesn’t matter, you won’t convince me. the depths you go to to accept this bs are ammusing

[long briar]

and you can't fault intel for choosing a better number to represent their process node compared to their competitor

[quick basin]

intel 14nm was called 14nm, so intel 10nm is 10nm

[long briar]

how does it not matter?

[quick basin]

not intel 7, simple. and the reason they changed to 7 is to look better after it took them 5 years of struggle to move on

because 28 was 28, 14 was 14, smd 10 is 10

[long briar]

yet their transistor density is higher than tsmc 7nm....

[quick basin]

and the 14nm was probably higher than tsmc 14, what;s your point?

[long briar]

Most people do not understand these concepts to such a level. So to them, TSMC 7nm is better than Intel 10nm because the number is smaller

[near nymph]

@quick basin how big is your 🍆 phallic piece on your body?

[quick basin]

lol

1x15^9nm

[near nymph]

You could say 5 inches. But actually it's 4.55 inches

Like chill the fuck out. People take a piss all the time with numbers

[long briar]

Anyway I've seen enough to conclude that you aren't informed about any of this. You turn to logical fallacies when your argument falls apart. Have a great day (or night, for NA)

[quick basin]

yo, it was like that for 30 years, let’s not change it mow because of some marketing bs

[near nymph]

It's been decades since humans have said a nicer number to look better

[long briar]

69 😏

[quick basin]

you are clearly dumb, i probably know 15x more than you on euv, i’m just saying if it was always the number intel measures it as, it should always be. since when does the competition define you standard?

basic intel fanboy, probably took you 35 minutes of googling to get those numbers, look into the development history of intel 10

[long briar]

Before you come at me with an entire army, at least turn on spellcheck lol

[quick basin]

nah, turned it off to learn how to type on this ipad

[long briar]

Well, that seems like a skill issue then

[quick basin]

well, seems like someone is emotionally hurt

[long briar]

yea, you apparently

[quick basin]

lmao

[near nymph]

I mean looking at the discussion for a few hours... People don't agree with ya for the majority of the discussions. Maybe look into thinking different

[long briar]

aaand here we go again

[quick basin]

so you guys disagree thst intel couldn’t move on from 14 for years? lmao, limus literslly has an entire video on this

he even says exaclty the same thing on intel 7 but ok

and yeah, i do think different from most of you guys cause you are in the US, brainwashed war mongerers, we have a different mindset

[long briar]

I'm Canadian

[quick basin]

we aren’t educated to have overinflated wgos over here

[quick basin]

same crap, no autonomy

[near nymph]

I don't agree with what Intel does. Doesn't mean they ain't right for doing what they do

[long briar]

I'm a Chinese Canadian

[near nymph]

I'm a Taiwanese Canadian lol

[long briar]

Aye

[quick basin]

your opinion, as someone who has been used to normal nm for over a decade i don’t see why change

[long briar]

"normal" doesn't exist

that's why.

[manic torrent]

Looooool normal. You don't know shit about fabs

[quick basin]

well, i was refering to the disagreements you refered to about the tanks, americans think differently lol

[long briar]

At no point did I attack you personally, on the contrary, you have. I don't think you're qualified to say that

[quick basin]

lmao, ok, we always had the normal nm number, now we have a number that apparently represents the comoetitors equivelant

[long briar]

this. I explained it as simple as I could

[quick basin]

It’s pretty much evident

[quick basin]

most people that don’t understand, don’y look at that detail anyways

they just look at model and gen

[long briar]

Which is why it apparently confuses you that Intel 10nm is more dense than TSMC's 7nm?

[quick basin]

i didn’t say tsmc 7nm is better, i am saying intel should compare to intel, not tsmc

like they did for 2 decades

[long briar]

why not?

Why shouldn't Intel compare to their competitor

do we really need to break out the transistor density numbers to replace lithography

[quick basin]

why didn’t they start in 2005 then? or 2010? was it normal for 20 years and now it;s not?

how old are you even? lol

[long briar]

Because AMD wasn't always on TSMC?

[quick basin]

and? their fabs still differed

[long briar]

Wonder how that played out

[quick basin]

you see, you clearly hold a grudge against amd, fucking child

[long briar]

I... don't?

[quick basin]

i’m give 0 shits about any one of them, both are corporate shitholes

[quick basin]

your conversation proves otherwise

[long briar]

I've bought a fair number of AMD based laptops in the past few years, as well as built several systems using Ryzen for Engineering work due to its core counts

[long briar]

My issue isn't with AMD, it's with you.

[quick basin]

and yet you can’t admit that intel could not move past 14nm for like 3-4 years because they could not…

[long briar]

It's not hateful or "holding a grudge" to point out that AMD was on the verge of bankruptcy due to not being able to compete with Intel

I absolutely respect their work, they've done wonders for the tech industry

[quick basin]

yeah, they were in a shit situation, kinda like intel was with being unable to move past 14nm for so long

[long briar]

But you fail to understand how businesses function

These companies aren't private

CEOs are ultimately the slave of their shareholders

[quick basin]

Yeah, i’m aware, they were planning to keep selling 14nm forever right? Then why did their roadmap from the time promise 7nm a couple years after 14?

[long briar]

If AMD hadn't caught up, they wouldn't dare to go past 14nm

[quick basin]

their roadmap says otherwise

[long briar]

Their antitrust fines say so.

This is where this entire conversation started

[quick basin]

and they knew about ryzen 1-2 years earlier

[long briar]

So?

remember the amount of issues first gen ryzen had?

[quick basin]

so you are just saying they started working too late on 10nm?

[long briar]

eh, they were just one generation behind in terms of competition

[quick basin]

well, i would agree if their literal roadmap when skylake came out didn’t say otherwise

[long briar]

that's not bad at all, all things considered

[quick basin]

unless they were clearly and purposfuly lying

[long briar]

One quote I'll leave off with comes from the move Captain America: Civil War. It goes as "No, but it's run by people with agendas and agendas change."

It encapsulates this topic perfectly.

[quick basin]

well, what I see is s company that could not get a good 10nm yield.

you are coming at me with all these philosophical things when I was actually closely monitoring their development of 10nm lol

it just wouldn’t work

[long briar]

Philosophical...?

This is far from philosophical

[quick basin]

lmfao, they promised 10nm for 2018

[quick basin]

i mean you are saying a bucnh of theories about business etc, which are all true, but in this case, they just failed for a while

[long briar]

It's not philosophical at all

[long briar]

They technically got it in 2019

[quick basin]

I’m just not wording it too well, english is not my native language

[long briar]

Neither is English mine either. No excuse for how you engage in discussions though.

[quick basin]

nah, you are just wrong about this with intel

go research the development of 10nm

and about intel 7, you gotta convince linus first lmao

[long briar]

Linus is human. Humans can be wrong. His audio takes for example can be kinda scuffed...

[quick basin]

check dm

[long briar]

LTT audio in general before labs have been a crapshot, if it's Linus, he mostly knows what he's talking about but kinda sugarcoats bad products. If it's anyone else, it could be okay to absolute garbage takes

[quick basin]

yeah, so can you, he talked many times on the matter, more than twice

[long briar]

I did not form an opinion at any point

I tried to keep my discussions objective and verifiable.

That's very different from "feeling"

[quick basin]

well, theres nothing to verify about intel 7, I and many other just think it;s stupid marketing bs

[long briar]

There's a reason even xlite and hardwarebob disagreed with you

[quick basin]

yeah, his opinion

[long briar]

You claim to know more, but you don't have the basic understanding of how fabs work

[quick basin]

We didn’t even talk about how fabs work, tf are you even trying to be a smartass about?

[long briar]

if you understood why intel 10nm and tsmc 7nm was not a fair comparison, you'd also understand why Intel would opt to go with a more appropriate number

Most people don't understand.

[quick basin]

I understand you dummy, You really that dumb that you think you talking to a brick? I;m just saying if intel always had it’s own nm measurement is should stick to it

[long briar]

Ad hominems... again

what does me being a "dummy" or "dumb" have to do with the topic

[quick basin]

i get that intel 10nm has a higher density, They always differ from fab to fab, point is, it;s an intel fab, they had 27, 14, now they should have 10

cause ypu think i don;t get the difference between intel 10nm and tsmc 7

we like discussed that 4 times already in circles

[long briar]

And I'm telling you why 10nm does not justify intel's process node

[quick basin]

and i told you, in my opinion, that should not make them change the naming scheme after 20 years

[long briar]

and you referred to AMD as in AMD with their own fabs

[quick basin]

like is it that hard to understand what i’m saying? no i feel like i’m talking to a brick.

[long briar]

except AMD has bounced fabs multiple times, while having none themselves

[quick basin]

do you even know how euv works?

[long briar]

is it relevant to the conversation

[quick basin]

well you seem to be very skillfull when it comes to fabs, so i’m checking

[long briar]

It is not.

[quick basin]

xD

googled it or what?

[tardy terrace]

Meow, hello

[quick basin]

bro about to become a wikipedia expert on lithography

[long briar]

Hi Peyton, I'd stay out of this chat for now

[whole swallow]

or just mute dnld lol

[long briar]

I have

[vapid smelt]

you two have been battling for 30 mins

[tardy terrace]

ah more pathetic squabbling

[long briar]

I mean he's finally just spewing nonsense now

[quick basin]

bruh, you must have an iq of 5

[long briar]

earlier he had some good points that was remotely on topic

so I'd entertain him on his claims

[tardy terrace]

dnld's profile tracks w/ their personality, too

[quick basin]

‘remotely on topic’ 🤡

[whole swallow]

dnld's dad left to go get cigarettes years ago and they're really hoping being a jackass online will bring him back

[quick basin]

Yeah, it’s to piss off you western snowflakes

[long briar]

I mean, I'm the one with a genshin character as pfp

[tardy terrace]

[quick basin]

that’s American culture you are referring to

[tardy terrace]

Oh dear, one of these people.

[long briar]

lmao

More nonsense I assume, it's wack

he said that Americans are egotistical warmongers earlier

[quick basin]

exactly ehat they are

[long briar]

then I said I was Canadian

[tardy terrace]

I only virtually shoot people.

[quick basin]

chine will teach you lessons in the near future

[long briar]

Dropping freedom in T minus 5

[tardy terrace]

I hope you're aware about the rule against shitposting.

[long briar]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-gif-24418217

[quick basin]

that’s not shitposting. maybe in ur little brain

[quick basin]

yeah, the Russians have better ones, ypures still use floppys lmao

[long briar]

well, at this rate we could probably just call a mod, if they're still awake

[tardy terrace]

<@&750150305383186585>

[quick basin]

lol 🤡

[tardy terrace]

Tired of these kinds of people who think they're "the best" over everyone else. Fuck off, pissant.

[quick basin]

What a clown bunch you are

[long briar]

He's just generally disrespectful, tried my hardest to have a civil, objective discussion with him... and all I got was insults

[quick basin]

cause you are clearly a dumbass lmfao

[whole swallow]

yeah I scrolled up to see wtf the discussion even was and he was just mad hostile the entire time

[long briar]

I'm rarely this patient with anyone actually

[tardy terrace]

Cant wait to see the dumbass back themselves into a corner spouting "amerika shit"

oh wait, they already are.

[quick basin]

I always think that, you just help prove it

glad to see ur country burning btw

[tardy terrace]

I'm sorry you've been huffing methane for most of your life.

[long briar]

wait what's going on now lmao

[quick basin]

lmfao

[long briar]

I know I've had some pretty bad takes in the past but... this guy, this guy is something else

[vapid smelt]

why are you on a western made app if you hate us so much?

[quick basin]

it’s owned by the chinese that are spying on you, and collecting data for when they controll you 🤡

look who owns most of the shares in discord

[tardy terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/smug-funny-as-hell-gif-24661655

[long briar]

I just unblocked and uh... this was Canada

[quick basin]

you go down with the same ship

[tardy terrace]

dude can't even get his geography right, how the fuck are you supposed to insult us correctly

[long briar]

ikr

[tardy terrace]

do better, fuckwit.

[crude jasper]

canadians are teddy bears until they get angry at you ~ then they're like terminator T1000

[quick basin]

as if canada has any autonomy, also an american gonna tell me about geography 😂😂😂

you guys probably don’t know where the uk is on the map lmfao

[long briar]

ez

[vapid smelt]

left side of Europe

[quick basin]

had to search for it

[long briar]

You couldn't tell me where Canada is

[quick basin]

and the fact that you had to send it as proof says a lot lol

[long briar]

2nd largest country with most of its land inhabitable

[quick basin]

oh look, it got nukes

[long briar]

????

[long briar]

[vapid moss]

it's a private company

[tardy terrace]

hi barrington, have you come to watch this idiot be an idiot

[quick basin]

i know as a fact that half is owned by a chinese giant, google it

[crude jasper]

fake map ~ UK, France, sweden are still on it.

[vapid moss]

google? thought you were against western products/services?

[quick basin]

unless i remember wrong

[crude jasper]

tencent owns like 10% of discord ~ thats certainly not half

[quick basin]

I am against google, yes

spyware

[tardy terrace]

please bust out Discord's P&L, as well as all investor relations. You can't? Makes sense.

[quick basin]

wait, i’ll look it up

[tardy terrace]

oh look now you're stupid because you have to look up something

[vapid smelt]

as he types this all on a American design chinese made ipad

[tardy terrace]

do you see how moronic you are

[quick basin]

yeah, tencent is involved

[quick basin]

chinese made

[tardy terrace]

Do you see how dumb you are.

Take a side, pick a fucking lane and stay in it

[vapid smelt]

but american apple gets your money and data

[quick basin]

what does sending me an image to proof that he knows where the uk is have to do with me searching something?

[tardy terrace]

[quick basin]

you guys just lack

[vapid moss]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[whole swallow]

I was gonna play some brotato while waiting for my melatonin to kick in but this is way funnier

[quick basin]

Some data, they don’t missteeat it like 90% of your companies

[long briar]

so uh barrington... he's just been plain disrespectful the past hour or so...

[tardy terrace]

Nah let's just defend, guy's clearly about as bright as a dying lightbulb.

[quick basin]

so dumb pffends you?

[crude jasper]

taking melatonin and looking at blue screen!!? go to sleep

[tardy terrace]

My age is in my profile.

[long briar]

yo xlite he's still going

[whole swallow]

hey it works for me! Better than sitting in darkness with my brain going a mile a minute, lol

[tardy terrace]

Goddamn how fucking desperate are you for an internet argument?

[vapid moss]

anyway, moving on

[long briar]

Thanks Barrington 💟

[tardy terrace]

clawing for literally anything you deem a dirt mound to stand over us on by 2mm

oh we're done? Boo.

[long briar]

Unfortunately I have to go sleep

[near nymph]

Damn this man is living my dreams. Party with flight attendants

[long briar]

LOL

[crude jasper]

wat

[near nymph]

Fuck irs not loading

[crude jasper]

🤣

[near nymph]

That bonde flight attendant is pretty cute 😂

[long briar]

Oh god

anyway I'm living my dream rn

I literally couldn't be happier with who I'm with and what I have the freedom to do

[tardy terrace]

Oh man the guy was hella cute

[long briar]

lmao

[sonic spruce]

Wtf, does every comapany use 3 pin fans for their cases?

[tardy terrace]

its cheap

[long briar]

pov: you just bought a fractal pop

[tardy terrace]

[long briar]

wait is it actually a fractal pop?

[sonic spruce]

Ck560, focus 2, and pop

[long briar]

LOL

[crude jasper]

people who will care about the better performance from a different fan, will likely be changing whatever good fan they could have put in there anyways.

[long briar]

Yep they are all budget cases and thus, use 3 pin

[crude jasper]

i still use the crud black fans i got in my p400 cause idc

[tardy terrace]

have you guys seen the corsair 2000d

[sonic spruce]

Well between the 3, which should I get?

[tardy terrace]

tower itx case, takes 360mm aio

[sonic spruce]

How much for a case that doesn’t use 3 pin fans?

[tardy terrace]

yes

[long briar]

how about just getting any of those cases and getting some fans like the C12CS if you're on a budget

[crude jasper]

Just buy new fans...

[long briar]

if the budget isn't tight, they're all fine cases still and you can get better fans

[sonic spruce]

Would that be cheaper?

[near nymph]

I'm craving these noodles I had yesterday. So nice

[tardy terrace]

no

[near nymph]

Soo spicy. Soo nice

[sonic spruce]

Oh, ok

[tardy terrace]

god i love ramen...

[long briar]

they're like 12 bucks for 3 and are about as good as cheap fans get

[vapid smelt]

soupy spaghetti

[near nymph]

It's rice noodles lmfao. My white friend brought me there and said it's ramen. I just looked at him and went... Srsly?

[long briar]

yea that's not ramen

[tardy terrace]

either way, i want it

[long briar]

my childhood fav meal with rice noodles was... sweet soup rice noodles? Idk english name

[whole swallow]

posting noods in chat 😮

[near nymph]

It's called Yunnan Cross Bridge Rice Noodles. If you have some Asians around you. You can probably find a store for it

[sonic spruce]

So what if I did like, a deepcool ch560 and got new fans?

[long briar]

basically it's brown sugar, water, ginger, rice noodles and a poached egg on top

I wasn't allowed to have pop as a child (needlessly expensive compared to water), but that was as close as it got

nowadays my taste is just... I eat whatever

[sonic spruce]

Pop as in soda pop?

[long briar]

ye

[sonic spruce]

Ok

[long briar]

We were in rural China, basically farmland/town kinda thing

hell, a small glass bottle of milk was a luxury

you'd drink it in the store so you could immediately return the bottle after and get your money back for the bottle

[near nymph]

When I was in Florida the water quality was poor. Super fucking hard and tasted like shit. It was cheaper to load up on diet soda since they got a buy 2 packs get 2 packs free promotion

[long briar]

damn.

[near nymph]

Fucked up my taste buds with the artificial sweeteners. The water at the store costed more lmfao

[sonic spruce]

So what if I did like, a deepcool cc560 and got new fans?

[crude jasper]

i'd rather distill the local water than buy diet soda

[long briar]

I mean, I've gotten used to boiled well water

I kinda miss having a well to use... just prime with some more water and pump

[near nymph]

Well I'm a tourist lmfao. So... Distilling my own water isn't rly an option

[long briar]

sure

why not cg560 tho

regardless, any of those options would be fine

[sonic spruce]

I will check it out

Does cg560 come with hard drive bays?

[long briar]

yes, 2

[sonic spruce]

Price ig, is there a difference between them?

[round trellis]

hello there

what happened to the "4060ti starting price at 399"

its literally 500usd in india

[vapid smelt]

usa only deal

[round trellis]

its 100 usd extra here 💀

[vapid smelt]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-in/geforce/buy/

[round trellis]

nah bro i made a typo
should've been 4060ti

and its 500 usd now in Amazon

[round trellis]

4 k extra

💀

[vapid smelt]

that is its msrp for your country

[round trellis]

whats the price in us?

[vapid smelt]

The Nvidia RTX 4060 Ti will be priced starting at $399 for the 8GB variant of the GPU. The 16GB variant of the GPU will cost $499

[round trellis]

@vapid smelt
according to google , in us its 399usd (32k inr)
but in india , its close to 500 dude

[vapid smelt]

thats becuase its india

[round trellis]

im disappointed

[round trellis]

i hate my country

[graceful burrow]

I bet there are cool things in india
I wanna visit one day

[round trellis]

theres one upside with thousands of downsides in india

[graceful burrow]

I could do with a bit of culture shock

[vapid smelt]

your food is a huge upside

[round trellis]

that i can agree

[graceful burrow]

Yeah most Indian food I've had fucking rules

[round trellis]

you had some chicken dish type thingie?

[graceful burrow]

Really puts in perspective how flavorless the food here is

[round trellis]

tandoori?

[crude jasper]

never had issues with the food where im at

[graceful burrow]

I'm not 100% sure what it was

[round trellis]

idk how it'll be made (in your region) but it's good

[graceful burrow]

You live in the Midwest usa?

[crude jasper]

PNW

[round trellis]

wheres that?

[graceful burrow]

No clue what pnw is

[crude jasper]

pacific northwest

[graceful burrow]

That still means nothing to me

[crude jasper]

so B.C/Washington/Oregon

[graceful burrow]

Ain't shit in the Midwest don't come here

[round trellis]

i do miss some fast food chains in india tho

theres no star bucks , mc Donald's , burger King , Wendy's .etc in my region
only kfc

i wonder why american fast food chains never focus on India too much

[crude jasper]

probably something relating to infrastructure needs

[graceful burrow]

Maybe they don't see a market because it's so different

[vapid smelt]

its like they all have beef

[graceful burrow]

That's true

Most of that stuff is beef

[round trellis]

oh yes

i eat beef tho and i think McDonald's made some special veg burgers for india

[graceful burrow]

I don't think I could give up beef I won't lie

[round trellis]

pricing is a factor

[vapid smelt]

i need to give up beef i have high cholesterol

[graceful burrow]

Cholesterol be damned I'm an American

I'm built for the burger

[round trellis]

also
i got a gaming laptop and it doesn't even overheat while continuously playing for 10 hours

why are people so against it?
i have a asus tuf a17 2021 model

[misty scarab]

quest 2 standalone mode: ya ur controler batteries are 50%

opens oculus link

Quest: oops sorry theyre 20% :/

[round trellis]

my room temp is about 35°

i get 71° in room temps while playing rdr2

[graceful burrow]

Is air conditioning a not popular thing in India like the UK

[round trellis]

i didnt actually play it , one of my friends came over to check the temps while playing it (had it stored in a hdd)

[tired glade]

It's expensive

[graceful burrow]

It was just a general question

[round trellis]

its very expensive in india but i do got one 👍

[graceful burrow]

Pog
The heat is what would kill me about India tbh

I still wanna visit

[round trellis]

i only turn on the air conditioning when it's 40°+

[tired glade]

Visit north parts

[round trellis]

im rn on 34° c

[vapid smelt]

my AC is set to 20c

[round trellis]

Delhi and Mumbai 😂

[graceful burrow]

How often does it get above like. 38c

[tired glade]

Nope

[misty scarab]

ac on 15 all summer

[round trellis]

it depends on the part of the year

[round trellis]

whats the temp?

[misty scarab]

23-36 usually

[manic torrent]

Took it out for a bash... Lost the front bumper out in the field, which is basically a marsh. Gone forever:)

[misty scarab]

-34 winter, 36 sumer lol

[graceful burrow]

Was that flat out or were you holding back

[tardy terrace]

hi bob!

my monitor arms arrived today

I'd share pics but I'm too tired to drill holes in my desk to mount shit

[manic torrent]

Not even close. It will immediately flip.

[graceful burrow]

I figured

[graceful burrow]

Holy shit kek

[tardy terrace]

oh my god the torque

[manic torrent]

Yeah it is absolutely ridiculously powerful. 1.4kw motor

[tardy terrace]

ok, project for you- create a servo weight pulley system that works autonomously to shift weight to the front so you don't fling yourself

[manic torrent]

Or just adjust the remote to progressively wind on power and have one of the other controls adjust how progressive it is? 🙂

[tardy terrace]

My idea is more fun!

have you seen those youtube shorts of a little rc car driving around and requesting things from stores

[manic torrent]

Yeah 🙂

[tardy terrace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlQgaRgv3cw

cutest shit ever, this guy has a great thing going for him

[manic torrent]

Oh, and that's with 6S, the ESC is capable of 8S but it just breaks stuff.

[austere cape]

should the fan clips come already with the box

[tardy terrace]

can you elaborate

[austere cape]

like for the cpu fan

[tardy terrace]

yes

they look like folded paper clips

if there aren't any you can just get creative w/ zipties :D

[austere cape]

also mine comes with 2 cpu fans do i just put one on each side

[tardy terrace]

yes

[austere cape]

also also whats the difference between a cpu fan and the case fan

[graceful burrow]

Where it's located

[tardy terrace]

uhhhh do you want a technical response or generic

[timid meadow]

One is on your cpu cooler, the other isnt

[austere cape]

also also also thank you

[cursive cipher]

where can i look for gpu oc

[tired glade]

What do you mean?

[cursive cipher]

where do i go for tips for gpu oc

[tired glade]

Depends what you oc and how

[cursive cipher]

well not too stressing out the gpu card just itchy bit to get more frames from my shitty gt 710 apparently

[ashen zodiac]

overclocking a card that doesn't have any aux power...

[cursive cipher]

well i dont really mind aux and im using a vga monitor so what i wouldve done with it anyways

[dusty rune]

huh

[ashen zodiac]

i mean it's probably possible to OC it but don't expect much.

what i mean with aux power is that the card is limited to 75W from the pci-e slot, it has no additional power connectors. so you're gonna hit a hard limit where the card simply cannot draw more power, since the motherboard limits the slot to 75W

[manic torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-williams-gif-6037089

[ashen zodiac]

hey VGA monitors if they are CRT's are cool. some can do upwards of 120hz.

sometimes more if you get a good one

[manic torrent]

I'm familiar. But ... it's 2023.

[cursive cipher]

yea yea ik ik its pretty old

[ashen zodiac]

well unless you have an OLED with insane response times a CRT from 20 years ago will have better black levels and detail in motion

[manic torrent]

I mean... I do.

[cursive cipher]

its a vga but its not that old

[ashen zodiac]

[cursive cipher]

like dell E1916HV

standard office monitor

[manic torrent]

The CRT will also weigh 17.2 billion kg

[ashen zodiac]

that's not the point. in terms of value for money a CRT from a thrift store will give you just as good black levels and motion detail than your $1500 display @manic torrent

[manic torrent]

yes, but you sacrifice a whole lot of other things.

[cursive cipher]

standard 1366x768 res

[ashen zodiac]

i have this monster in my collection. 16:9, around 28" if i had to guess. takes 2 people to move it.

[cursive cipher]

you think thats old

try my grandmas old sony does not have the ratio but its ok

[ashen zodiac]

i mean i also own a tv from the 60's but it went kaboom

[manic torrent]

which is why it's unused in a junk room 😄

[ashen zodiac]

if you look next to it there's my PS2, and it's plugged in. i just don't power it up in summer cuz it gets hot and it don't want it to go boom

[cursive cipher]

well on my gt 710 core is +295 can i do more

[ashen zodiac]

@manic torrent that TV is like 300W so.. in my appartment rn it's 27c. not a good combi

[austere cape]

do you play fort

[cursive cipher]

nah

[ashen zodiac]

true. but that TV has a better picture than most modern budget TV's if you ignore that it's not HD.

as long as you stick to DVD's it looks amazing

[cursive cipher]

Dvd flashbacl omg

i still use a dvd drive on my pc

[ashen zodiac]

Flashback? I still heavily use that format

yes i need to get something else to hold that collection i know it's a mess

[austere cape]

flashback? i wasnt even alive!

[ashen zodiac]

zoomer moment

[cursive cipher]

hehe my boi i have crate full of old songs on cassestes and dvd that weighs roughly 17 kilos

[ashen zodiac]

I have you beaten on music collecting I think

i have more that i don't play often so it doesn't get to be in there

[manic torrent]

I gave away all my physical media

[cursive cipher]

is that an old mac i see

[ashen zodiac]

why? it's a fun hobby. i have another cd and a bluray coming in today lmao

[manic torrent]

Should I build a dual CPU 64 core EPYC server (gen1 EPYC 3ghz)

[cursive cipher]

dayum bro

[ashen zodiac]

original 1998 iMac, Rev B

it still fully works, apart from the original hard drive that i replaced

[manic torrent]

because I have enough hobbies, and not enough space, and they are annoying and not well suited to grabby small children 😄

[cursive cipher]

shizzzle drizzle bro got that fine drip og static rgb huh

[austere cape]

lowkey od

[cursive cipher]

did a ssd upgrade?

[ashen zodiac]

od?

[ashen zodiac]

in a machine made 5 years before SATA was invented? lmao

[austere cape]

overdoing

sorry i should use more talk from 80’s🙏

[cursive cipher]

ah i see we going old old

ribbon cables ?

[ashen zodiac]

i was born in the late 90's lmao but od as far as i'm aware is short for overdose

[cursive cipher]

on the hard drive?

is a ddr 4 on single stick of 8 gig okay

or do i buy one more 8 gig stick for dual channel

[austere cape]

noboody says that anymore

[ashen zodiac]

the english dictionary disagrees

[austere cape]

u must be fun at parties

[ashen zodiac]

are you from the USA by chance?

[austere cape]

sorry

[ashen zodiac]

cuz the USA uses fucked up english lmao

where tf does od mean overdoing

[austere cape]

everywhere

[ashen zodiac]

then why isn't it like that in the english dictionary

[cursive cipher]

well im from the south east asia and by od we mean overdosing

[ashen zodiac]

yeah as far as i know that's what it means everywhere

the USA has a lot of words that aren't in the dictionary, dialects and stuff but i haven't heard this one

[dull tapir]

whole english language is very inconsistent

[cursive cipher]

but we dont have to use od that much

[cursive cipher]

true true like you literally have a word for throwing someone out of the window

[dull tapir]

especially pronunciation

[cursive cipher]

and it is defenestration

[austere cape]

not a word

[dull tapir]

in my language we have no spelling like each letter has its own sound

spelling is like slow talking

[ashen zodiac]

i mean yeah, but a lot of english speakers have english as their second language, me included. that creates a TON of dialects

[dull tapir]

same reason why japanese language is precise each symbol has its own sound

[cursive cipher]

yea mine to every alphabet has its own specific pronunciation

[austere cape]

what kind of data?

[ashen zodiac]

data?

[dull tapir]

true i do like english language but it is very inconsistent

[austere cape]

is that not a word in great britain either?

[ashen zodiac]

it is, but what data are you asking for?

[dull tapir]

but dialects in america are not as different as in other languages or britain

[austere cape]

im saying whered you pull that demographic from that most english speakers have english as a second language

[cursive cipher]

i think US of A will have the most amount of dialects

[dull tapir]

french is even more inconsistent than english

[cursive cipher]

yikes bro factbomb here

[austere cape]

^^ @ashen zodiac

[ashen zodiac]

i never said most, and here you go. https://www.dotefl.com/english-language-statistics/

[dull tapir]

most languages do not have a problem with spelling like english does

we are a tiny country and have a ton of dialects we can barely understand each other

it is like a different language

[austere cape]

alot and most are defintley similar terms in US of A

[cursive cipher]

on basic the country with most people will have the most english speakers if it isnt a thirdworld or a under developed country

[dull tapir]

piši što govoriš

[austere cape]

also good on you for speaking without backup in firsthand🙏

[ashen zodiac]

@austere cape india alone has 125 million english speakers. that's almost half the USA population. lmfao

[dull tapir]

means you write what you say so there is no spelling errors

[cursive cipher]

there you go my country alone with the most population in the entire world

[ashen zodiac]

just as a heads up i think it's against the server rules here to speak in other languages

[dull tapir]

imagine if axis powers won and whole world would speak german tho yikes

[cursive cipher]

has many english speakers

[austere cape]

330 million in usa last time i checked thats nowwhere near double

[dull tapir]

it was a quote not language but yes

it is like latin latin is not banned here

[austere cape]

do they have math in usa

[ashen zodiac]

250 million is pretty close, hence i used "almost"

[austere cape]

or britian

[ashen zodiac]

i'm not from either of those lmao

[austere cape]

250 million is about 80-90 million more idk if thats close thats like comparing a car to a hot weels toy

[ashen zodiac]

if we compare english speakers directly it's a LOT closer

USA has a lot of people who don't speak it

[austere cape]

demographics have to be pulled up to prove somebody wrong thats a great personality trait😩

[ashen zodiac]

huh?

[austere cape]

how do i say it in non usa slang apology

[ashen zodiac]

i'm able to back up what i say, you haven't yet, you've just insulted me.

[austere cape]

not insulted directly? just made comments

[crude jasper]

this is pretty easily deduced because english is the 2nd most spoken language if you include secondary, tertiary languages and so on

[austere cape]

😖

[austere cape]

how did i insult you if you dont live in usa? also first one was a joke damn i mean your pretty petty to pull up reciepts like that

[crude jasper]

because you assumed they're american, and your concept of americans is that americans are stupid

[ashen zodiac]

being able to back up what i say is what?

pretty? i assume you meant petty? lmao

[austere cape]

pretty. petty

i did say that

[ashen zodiac]

i mean that stereotype holds up

https://www.boredpanda.com/people-asked-point-iran-on-map-joanna-piacenza/

[ashen zodiac]

i read over it

[austere cape]

maybe dont be a asshole then ☠️learn to read then call me out please try again next time

[crude jasper]

give me other countries doing similar survey as a comparison ~ because without it, this doesn't mean very much

[ashen zodiac]

i was joking if that wasn't obvious, but yea it doesn't mean a lot it's just funny

[crude jasper]

this also isn't a very large sample size either

[austere cape]

also you are grown and im a child think about your priorities and this argument

[crude jasper]

we can say the same for you?

[ashen zodiac]

wtf? you never mentioned your age how tf am i supposed to factor that in?

[austere cape]

@austere cape

[crude jasper]

you're doing... what? victimizing yourself in a public chat on the internet instead of doing something else fun? but instead you just wanna waste the best time of your life here

[austere cape]

kinda commen sense that im young yk?

[austere cape]

😴

[crude jasper]

based off your speech and use of emojis, pretty obvious

anywho

[austere cape]

sorry didnt know using emojis or like doing like a thing accounts to age thanks

[ashen zodiac]

if you are 18 now you would be born around 2005, that's enough to have been a child in the time when netflix was already commonplace and optical media was being phased out. not precise enough at all

[austere cape]

Well thanks for telling me my life story

[ashen zodiac]

lemme use your language as best i can

ahem

fam wtf are u on about bruh

[austere cape]

ur still grown btw

[ashen zodiac]

i'm an adult yes, such an insult damn

[austere cape]

not an insult just a wakeup call to yk maybe be an adult

dont know much cuz im not firsthand but i can just tell ur mentality is shaky or smth idk

[ashen zodiac]

i'm doing more with my life than you, i'm learning my third language. you're wasting your time lmao

[crude jasper]

mmmm

[ashen zodiac]

[manic torrent]

fight them

[austere cape]

you wasted your time for almost up to an hour 🤓

your a child

[ashen zodiac]

[austere cape]

only children do that get me ? anywho goodnight dm me if you need a bedtime story

[ashen zodiac]

you just called me an adult? make up your mind lmao

[austere cape]

^

[ashen zodiac]

on my second monitor, i'm doing stuff in the meantime

[austere cape]

i'm doing more with my life than you, i'm learning my third language. you're wasting your time lmao

[gilded forge]

I still use VHS and im 18

[ashen zodiac]

ayy, it's a cool format. if you have a decent player and a nice CRT you can get a really nice picture out of it

[crude jasper]

film storage is top-tier ~ safe against cyberattacks and has FAR more data density than any HDD or SSD

[gilded forge]

I need to grab a VHS to DVD converter but the software they run on are usually Win7 or earlier

[crude jasper]

so put a piece of crap together and put win7 on it

[ashen zodiac]

which is true

[ashen zodiac]

or just a virtual machine

[manic torrent]

'still'. VHS was obsolete before you were born.

[gilded forge]

real hardware probably not bc of the lac of security patches, VMs probably yes.

[austere cape]

your answering me on your second monitor thats one way to do it

[crude jasper]

lol wut

[wind pulsar]

Anyway

[ashen zodiac]

i'm sorry for having more monitors than you. but here's what i'm doing rn. more productive than you have been the past hour

[crude jasper]

duolingo !?!?

[austere cape]

i have 3 monitors and 1 dual monitor and i dropship i make more then your rent nice 2 monitors tho

[crude jasper]

hope its a language duolingo does decently cuz they're pretty bad at some languages lol

[wind pulsar]

Yeah, Duolingo's pretty good

[ashen zodiac]

japanese

[austere cape]

thats what i do on my 2 monitors thanks for sharing your experience

[wind pulsar]

That's bound to happen, teaching software can't be good at everything and anything

[austere cape]

last time i checked 4 is better then 2 thats usa math atleast ashley

[crude jasper]

yah but theres alternative programs for those languages with lacking knowledge on duolingo

[gilded forge]

babymetal's great

[wind pulsar]

How low is your self esteem that you have to compare the amount of monitors you use

[ashen zodiac]

yus. i'm getting a cd and a bluray in today. i have a decent collection too

[austere cape]

ashley started it😖😖

[ashen zodiac]

i have 3 but go off

[austere cape]

also lifes great rn my self esteem couldnt be higher

[austere cape]

4>3 still soo…

[crude jasper]

fookin local district took the german classes out of curriculum for whatever reason so now i need the lesser quality of online software

[ashen zodiac]

we can tell

[wind pulsar]

And because someone started it, you jump right on it? Are you 12?

[crude jasper]

just ignore him

he wants attention, don't give it to him

[gilded forge]

2 ultrawides>3

[austere cape]

do you have adhd cuz i do too like us people we really just dont know when to give up @crude jasper also you grown people gave me all the attention i need thanks!

[ashen zodiac]

not if you can have a vertical monitor. insane for discord and reddit

[austere cape]

4* i said 4 also 3 still bigger number either or

[gilded forge]

that's true. I don't have a vertical monitor bc my desk is sorta small but I'd love one

[austere cape]

yall not have like college classes or studying to do or posting on reddit about your day

[crude jasper]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4uRbp37AtiweQtd4Ov7om3?si=f6c3be439b154f7b

[gilded forge]

it's summer so no

[cursive cipher]

its monsoon so yes

[wind pulsar]

I earn money by doing nothing so I don't need to do shit

[cursive cipher]

you guys dont have collage in summers?

[austere cape]

if so your 10 years older then me and still responding to a “12 year old” so in retroperspective thag makes you 12 hm

[cursive cipher]

here we do have lectures during summers

[gilded forge]

what kind of logoc even is that

[ashen zodiac]

My displays overhang my desk lmfao

[crude jasper]

cause you have puny desk

[gilded forge]

well I'm not doing summer classes, and school isn't year round for me

[wind pulsar]

I don't think that's how that works, but you are admitting that you're 12 then?

[cursive cipher]

ah i see

[timid meadow]

This is the internet. We all have different schedules. Being online says nothing about what we are or aren't doing

[gilded forge]

my desk is an old computer desk from 2006 that held a box monitor so it is what it is. I'm broke.

[ashen zodiac]

timezones are a thing. for many here it's evening

[austere cape]

okay idc btw nice pc setup what do u do with all that ram anyway

[cursive cipher]

thats the cleanest desk ive seen in a while @crude jasper

[crude jasper]

it's even cleaner now

[austere cape]

sorry i thought est was only thing im american

[ashen zodiac]

why is your keyboard at that angle

[wind pulsar]

Nothing, what's that your business

[cursive cipher]

ayo its evening here

[gilded forge]

better to have more ram than you need than not enough.

[wind pulsar]

Mine's too

[austere cape]

just an inquiry if you do nothing you wasted your money akira

[crude jasper]

i have it at a 5 degree tilt to the right now. that tilt was because of where my chair was cause it was easy to recline and put my feet on corner leg of desk lol