public-chat

[full fossil]

☠️☠️☠️

[sonic spruce]

Who’s QD?

[jaunty compass]

Dead? Unlucky

[full fossil]

Search him up

[sonic spruce]

Yeah idk

I mean I guess this is the best I can get

[full fossil]

Guys should I get the oled c2 or alienware uw oled

[manic torrent]

get whichever one you want

[full fossil]

I like the extra fov on uw but c2 is kinda better but

[manic torrent]

I use an aorus FO48U and it's great

[full fossil]

Is that uw?

[vapid smelt]

you mean uwu?

[full fossil]

Stop☠️☠️☠️😭

[manic torrent]

no, it's the same 48" oled panel as in a c1

[full fossil]

Ohhh

Is there any possible way to get the same fov as uw but on top and bottom too?

[manic torrent]

you can change the fov

you can set the monitor to be an 'ultrawide' and just have black bars

[full fossil]

Yeah i tried that and i like it just would be cool to have more view instead of black bars

But i guess uw on a c2 would be like decent size

[manic torrent]

4k on a 48" is the exact same pixel density as a 24" `1080p

27/48/27

[full fossil]

Whoaaaa

Oh wait

Extra monitors thats good idea but i dont lines ill just get c2 alone

[manic torrent]

oh I don't play across them all, I play on the 48" alone

[full fossil]

Oh

Oh thats 48" dang

[manic torrent]

yeah, it's yuge

[full fossil]

What are ur tables depth and length

[tardy terrace]

Oh god, it's so nice having a clean system image after years...

[manic torrent]

it's not straight in that pic, but you get the idea.

uhhhh... normal size, I forget. It's wall mounted.

[full fossil]

Ur table is wall mounted?

[manic torrent]

No, the monitors are.

[full fossil]

can u raise and lower the moniters with that mount, the screw mechanism in the back what is that

[manic torrent]

context pic with wiring disaster

[manic torrent]

yes, it's connected to a stepper motor so I can raise and lower them through home assistant, and I have buttons to do it on my stream deck

[full fossil]

genius idea love it

its a lot of weight though

[manic torrent]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/375436621450969089/1120956371920240670/PXL_20230122_083418477.jpg?width=457&height=607

The stepper motor is much bigger now than the one in the picture. The weight isn't too bad, and it's very strong.

[chrome vector]

Wires are the enemy of the people

[manic torrent]

yeah it's an old pic it doesn't look like that now

[vapid smelt]

will your background/wall paper be of jesus christ on the cross?

[manic torrent]

ooooh I should do that. That would be sacriligiously awesome

[desert ivy]

Anyone else think Floatplane should have an API that bypasses their monetization like Reddit does? Like Luke and Linus are so anti-reddit that I kinda like wish they put their money where their mouth is.

[manic torrent]

uhhhhh

that is the dumbest comparison in the history of APIs and comparisons.

[desert ivy]

How so? Haha 😂

I'm going to love see you try to explain that lmao

[stray apex]

the problem with reddit charging for their API is not the fact that they are charging for their API
that's perfectly reasonable
the problem is that their pricing has nothing to do with their actual costs and is insanely high

[manic torrent]

reddit is a pre-existing social media platform and floatplane is a specifically paid content delivery service?

they are fundamentally and completely different.

[desert ivy]

Yeah, one is a forum aggrgator and other a video service captain obvious. But if Reddit monetizes their platform for 6 dollars a month to see it without ads. How much would the API cost to see it without ads?

[manic torrent]

... the video service has ALWAYS been paid. There is no free tier and there never was.

floatplane is about content creators monetising their own content

[stray apex]

reddit also has a much, much lower per-user cost

[manic torrent]

reddit is about monetisiing user content. Which is fine, but alienating the users -> less user content.

[stray apex]

reddit is primarily a text platform, and while they've recently started self-hosting, for the vast majority of its existence reddit hasn't actually hosted images or videos in posts

whereas floatplane serves exclusively high bitrate video

[manic torrent]

... to paying customers

[desert ivy]

Yeah, they are different platforms captain obvious. I'm talking about pricing. If Reddit charges 6 dollar per user to not watch ads, how much should their API cost to not watch ads.

[manic torrent]

that's not even remotely the point? The issue is that third parties are monetising the data they ingest from reddit via API

[desert ivy]

So, you can't answer it? 🤔

[chrome vector]

I don't mind stuff that needs to be plugged into the wall as much as other stuff. If only everything could be wireless without the downsides

[manic torrent]

I am somewhat sympathetic to reddits problem - but at the same time, it was like this when they fucking bought it, so it's not like it's a surprise.

[stray apex]

I mean, charging for the api isn't really the issue
the problem is how much, and that's entirely their fault

[manic torrent]

oh wires EXISTING is fine, they should just not be visible

[manic torrent]

the problem is that they are charging for the API as a b2b data service.

[desert ivy]

Except people are saying it is too expensive. But I don't think it's expensive at all.

[manic torrent]

which... is not what it is. It's not what it's NOT, but hey.

[stray apex]

it is wildly expensive

[manic torrent]

It doesn't help that their mobile app is absolute fucking dogshit

and people have been using third party apps for many many years.

and yes, it's their platform, they can do anything they want - but of course, users can choose to do anything they want as well.

[desert ivy]

I use their mobile app daily for around an hour or two a day. Most people use the app. It isn't dogshit. It's literally the app responsible for their massive growth. Just because something isn't your favorite doesn't mean it's dogshit

[manic torrent]

The fundamental problem is that it's anti-user.

and for a platform that relies on user content and eyeballs, it's pretty stupid.

[desert ivy]

But Reddit charges 6 dollars a month to not see ads. How much should they charge users in third party apps to not see ads?

[manic torrent]

and when moderate people leave, you're ending up with only the absolute bottom tier garbage

[stray apex]

imgur, a service which literally only serves images which are magnitudes more intensive than reddit's text platform, charges magnitudes less

it's not a question of what it costs reddit
it's just reddit trying to IPO

[manic torrent]

how much should they charge to not get involved in moderation issues that aren't ToS violations on subreddits?

because holy shit

even facebook doesn't do that shit.

[desert ivy]

Dude you can't answer a question. And now are asking me questions that are unrelated. Like a few hundred users shouldn't be able to hold hostage millions of users.

[stray apex]

it turns out that when your platform is literally entirely built on the community and you piss off the hardcore members of your community uh
whoops

[manic torrent]

... if you think they are unrelated then you're smoking the good shit

[desert ivy]

Imgur is giving their API for practically free. No one expects them to maintain that forever. It's the reason Reddit stopped using Imgur. Heck is the reason Linus uses Floatplane too.

[stray apex]

it's estimated that each user costs reddit an average of 30 cents a month lmao

[desert ivy]

Lol. But when I ask you a direct question about pricing your answer is "that's not the point"

[manic torrent]

I'm not answering it because I can't, I'm answering it because I don't care, and I don't think it's relevant.

The problem isn't that reddit wants to charge for things

[stray apex]

reddit isn't exactly serving up shitloads of multimedia

[manic torrent]

the problem is a fundamental nature of approach to HOW.

[stray apex]

they're probably like, 95% text

[long briar]

charging is fine, charging enough that small companies can't run anymore is not

[desert ivy]

😂. Classic. I could answer. But I'm not going to because I don't care. But I'll continue to engage you and try to argue my point in a way I can win.

[manic torrent]

As I said, when your entire platform is user content to users, doing things to piss off your user base is a bad idea

[stray apex]

oh, also, reddit straight up breaks ios text to speech

[blazing lily]

is this the guy who hacked ltt a few months ago?

[stray apex]

and they're not gonna let third-party accessibility apps continue to exist

[desert ivy]

That's my point. You can't charge people on what it costs you. You charge other people on the basis of what you charge.

[manic torrent]

I'm simply telling you the ridiculous rails you've put on the discussion limit the usefulness

[stray apex]

you absolutely charge other people what it costs you if they're contributing to your platform

reddit lives and dies based on the engagement of the community
that is their product

[manic torrent]

ehhhh, they need to profit, but yes, if you squeeze your users, you will lose them

[blazing lily]

the simple solution here is to just not use reddit

[stray apex]

what they're trying to sell is organic user generated content to train LLMs

so they obviously should avoid pissing off the users
which create their product

[desert ivy]

I mean if LLM make it profitable I'm all up for it.

[manic torrent]

.... which is why they are fucking the API.

[desert ivy]

Funny thing I've seen entire subreddits in Spanish filled with Chat-GPT bots. It's eerie.

[manic torrent]

The stupid thing is that this is solvable with changes to API ToS and a few other things

[stray apex]

yeah, it's not like users actually need to make that many API calls

and you can always just require that AI companies pay you more and limit their ability to write content

[manic torrent]

rate limits, app keys (in addition to user auth), ToS that strictly limits API calls for non user use

The issue is also that the CEO came out and said "yeah fuck all the users, imma do what I want"

[desert ivy]

I agree that the price change is problematic to current users. But the idea of 3rd party apps monetizing a social media platform is just unheard off outside of Twitter and we all know they are losing money too.

[manic torrent]

lol, twitter is a terrible example now 🙂 - twitter was a FUNCTIONAL company before (not sure about profit, but it was viable).

[desert ivy]

It had like 2 years of profitability on like their whole history. And that was thanks to the pandemic and was crashing hard before Elon took over. So I don't know how you can say a company is viable when you don't know if it's profitable

[stray apex]

as long as the users are happy and you're showing growth, you can at the very least borrow money or get investors

if perception changes you can't even do that

[manic torrent]

You don't actually need the line to go BRRRRRR. It was viable.

[stray apex]

like, nobody seriously believed pre-elon that twitter would die

[full fossil]

hello public chat

[verbal laurel]

twitter isn't dead i just seen the campinos leaks

[desert ivy]

I remember seeing the opposite. But who knows. Like it was very bad before the elections.

Like companies have an investor phase but at some point the investors lose faith and it's a deep dive crash from there.

[stray apex]

there's a difference between believing that twitter is a cesspool, and believing that it is unviable

[manic torrent]

I mean, they were paying their rent......

[desert ivy]

Twitter has existed for so long, that them existing without profit was going to end soon.

[stray apex]

nah
if you're big enough, you can survive

[crude jasper]

wat

[vapid smelt]

just like the ussr

[desert ivy]

If you don't make money, I have no idea how

[stray apex]

twitter was making plenty of revenue

which dropped a little bit after elon decided that advertisers didn't matter lol

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/money-burn-cash-shoveling-twitter-gif-25356720

[desert ivy]

n 2021, Twitter's annual net loss amounted to 221 million U.S. dollars. Overall, this is a significant decrease from the previous year, in which the micro blogging and social network company saw losses of almost 1.4 billion U.S. dollars.

This is with Pandemic money going on.

Elon Musk didn't help Twitter but they were going to fall either way.

[elfin jetty]

I wonder how long it would take to bankrupt elon

[desert ivy]

Tesla and SpaceX would have to bankrupt and both are doing great.

[vapid smelt]

tesla still hasnt realsed the cybertruck

[desert ivy]

Not even their investors care about that. No one is selling more EVs than them. And no one has shown such growth in production capacity in the history of auto making.

[elfin jetty]

Ok, i know ima get alot of hate for this:

||the cybertruck isnt actually that ugly tbh||

[vapid smelt]

if we dont count china and thier feilds of evs

[desert ivy]

It's probably a good move why would they waste production capacity selling the Cybertuck when they can sell Model 3s

[desert ivy]

The Chinese production capacity is going to die in the next decade or two. While Tesla could expand to Mexico for their production capacity. At least is what I heard some analyst said. I don't know much about Chinese cars, except they've been popping up recently

[desert ivy]

I like it too TBH. Although I'm not sure I would own a vehicle that big.

[manic torrent]

By all accounts they would be better never releasing the Cybertruck

[elfin jetty]

Not gonna lie id love a cargo van in that style

[manic torrent]

Like sure it looks fancy, but you can buy an f150 lightning and a rivian right now.

[long briar]

It's expensive and stupid

[desert ivy]

It's probably a waste they just can't compete with Ford. And the cost of opportunity is too big. Not selling it only slightly hurts their reputation.

[vapid smelt]

40k cyber truck

[elfin jetty]

I mean sure but itd look cool

[stoic beacon]

I was going to make a comment on Ford's build quality and longevity over the last two decades, but then I remembered we were comparing it to Tesla, whose build quality is also laughable

[desert ivy]

Although the idea of a bulletproof car is great. I can't imagine how expensive is going to be to replace after a fender bender or broken glass. Too impractical

[desert ivy]

And Ford stopped selling cars right? Like they only sell trucks now? Having less vehicles allows you to make them better

[elfin jetty]

Yea it seems a bit excessive tbh

[stoic beacon]

Doesn't mean they will. Toyota makes a ton of different vehicles, and they slaughter everyone in reliability

[desert ivy]

Anyone else going to play FFXIV. It's up for me

[desert ivy]

Man, I want that new Prius. Like never thought I would ever want a Prius but the new one is cool. Haha

[long briar]

it would not

Prius Prime is actually kinda nutty now

[desert ivy]

Cool is in the eye of the beholder

[elfin jetty]

Maybe not to you, no. But to me it would be something I'd like

[elfin jetty]

Eh there are some things i would change but i like the angles

[long briar]

an angular car was never the issue

it's a very retro 90s style, boxy and defined lines. Nothing wrong with that

[desert ivy]

People like to hate on Tesla but they singlehandedly changed the industries interior and dashboard design of cars.

[polar rock]

is that the tesla cybertruck

[long briar]

for the worse tbh

[elfin jetty]

Yes

[long briar]

physical knobs and buttons will always be faster

and more reliable

[desert ivy]

I disagree. I don't own one but my brother loves his and I don't see what's wrong with it.

[elfin jetty]

Agreed

[desert ivy]

But it's true that you probably won't have Tesla's lasting 30-40 years. Like Classic Tesla's are likely never going to be a thing

[long briar]

interior design, Tesla was a follower. The dashboard design... you mean the lack of a dash in their most popular models?

[stray apex]

tesla with their stupid fucking touchscreen windshield wipers lmao

oh, and headlights
I don't think those have a physical control either?

[manic torrent]

Tesla forced EVs onto the world.

[desert ivy]

I don't own one, but the people I know that have one never complain about. 🤷🏽

[long briar]

I've never rode a tesla late at night, but just about any lcd screen is really bright at night and I can't imagine how an LCD that requires a backlight would look in pitch black

[polar rock]

i'd rather have physical buttons

[manic torrent]

That is what they did. they created amazing EV drivetrains with decent chassis and ... very very midrange everything else

[stray apex]

that bit is fine
but it did take my parents like four months to get their bumper fixed so

[graceful burrow]

sat in the back of a tesla once
as a 6ft person, shit was uncomfortable as shit

[manic torrent]

They aren't a car company. The cars are wrapping to sell the drivetrain

[graceful burrow]

would not recommend
easily one of the worst backseats ive ever sat in

[long briar]

which is how they started in the first place, first with the tesla roadster that was a lotus evora. Then with the Toyota Rav4 EV which was a Tesla x Toyota endeavor that made Toyota hate battery EVs

[desert ivy]

Probably was the wrong model for that. Like if you don't fit no matter how good a car is.

[graceful burrow]

they were doing uber

i needed a ride to work

[long briar]

There's not a single Tesla that's built as well or as comfortable to sit in as say, a volkswagen Atlas

Teslas are very mid cars with excellent tech behind it

[desert ivy]

Cars are a thing where one brand can't fit all.

[long briar]

But they can.

Toyota and Lexus proves this, Honda and Acura proves this.

[desert ivy]

If they could everyone would buy Toyota.

[long briar]

From the lowest end cars to absolute luxury to racing...

[manic torrent]

except he's right - tesla are objectively mid. It's not total crap, but they cannot match companies that have been doing this for many many decades and have processes in place to ensure shit gets done right and supply of sub-parts is there

[long briar]

They don't need to, they already have one that hasn't failed them in 15 years or whatever

[desert ivy]

But the things you care about are not what other people care about. Like their Tech. To some their tech is even a negative since they want CarPlay

[long briar]

Carplay has been in the base model toyotas for some time now? Same as honda

[desert ivy]

Yeah I mean Tesla's tech is a negative for some people.

[manic torrent]

the thing is - teslas are fine. But now that the novelty has worn off, other people are doing it better.

[desert ivy]

Some people like CarPlay and wouldn't buy a Tesla because of that.

[long briar]

they don't have the fastest EV... far from it. Lucid Air dream(?) and rimac nevera are faster

[manic torrent]

ehhh that's hardly worth caring about

[long briar]

they don't have the most luxuriest

what they do have though, is range at a cost. Model 3 and y are pretty good deals as far as EVs go

[manic torrent]

comparing super/hyper car . Compare it to cars in the same segment.

[desert ivy]

Who cares about Lucid or Rivan or any brand that you can't even get because they aren't really mass produced m

[manic torrent]

you can't get a tesla either, so eh 🙂

[long briar]

Funny, because the decade old hybrid Koenigsegg Regera just smashed the electric nevera lmao

[desert ivy]

You can get them in Monterrey Mexico so I don't know. Those other models aren't available in my city

[manic torrent]

haha, yeah the regera is amazing.

[long briar]

faster 0-60, 0-100, 0-400, and brake tests

[manic torrent]

I mean the delivery times are all months in the future.

[long briar]

literally sniped the record like half a month after the nevera was like "ohhh fastest car in the world" and a decade old hybrid beats it

[desert ivy]

Ah yeah but that's true of the Prius as well. At least in my city

[manic torrent]

the thing is though, it's all "flag" waving contests at that end, there's no functional difference.

[long briar]

oh for sure

[manic torrent]

particularly now we have 0-400-0 testing. This is something that wasn't even POSSIBLE some time ago.

[desert ivy]

I don't trust 0-60 times since I saw the challenger advertising their 5-60 times as 0-60.

[manic torrent]

0-60 times have rollout. That's how they are measured.

[long briar]

no this is industry standard to ignore the first foot or so

wait it's to ignore the first 5 feet right

I don't remember

[manic torrent]

I forget how much it is, but yes. There's a standard rollout.

[desert ivy]

All of them?? I remember seeing a YouTuber saying differently but I have no idea

[manic torrent]

all of them.

[long briar]

nvm I was right the first time around, it's 1 foot

[manic torrent]

if it doesn't include rollout or is tested another way there will be a statement to that effect.

[desert ivy]

I see. Well shady but I guess it doesn't matter if everyone does it

[manic torrent]

it's not shady at all. It's because measuring stuff is hard.

[long briar]

^^ like it'll say 0-60 time xxx and 0-60 with rollout xxx

[manic torrent]

The thing is, rollout didn't matter when the worlds fastest cars were 4 seconds 0-100

[long briar]

I don't blame Lome for not knowing the rollout thing, I only learned of it rather recently

[manic torrent]

I blame everyone for being ignorant! The information is out there! 😄

[desert ivy]

Yeah. My love of cars extend to watching the occasional YouTuber/F1 with my dad and watching The Grand Tour

[manic torrent]

(but yes, this is only something you know if you're a car nerd)

[long briar]

it's one of those topics that while the info is out there, it's not something that's commonly explained unlessed asked first

[desert ivy]

I don't mind being called ignorant when it comes about cars because I am ignorant

[manic torrent]

it's explained if you watch car testing 😄

[long briar]

mhm

[manic torrent]

I might have more or less turned every single bolt on my car and replaced almost everything

[long briar]

i... have not

[desert ivy]

My LTT screwdriver is not a tool. But an statement art piece.

[long briar]

I also haven't had the need to

[long briar]

I'm eye'ing the noctua edition. The rose gold shaft looks so good

[manic torrent]

Lome working on his car

[long briar]

(I'm a sucker for anything pink-purple, including rose gold

[desert ivy]

I'm one of those people that are absolutely revolted by Noctua colors.

[vapid smelt]

nice toe

[long briar]

I have a picture of me doing something very similar when I was like, 3

[fresh vector]

Windows 11 Home vs Windows 11 Pro: Your thoughts?

[long briar]

I tore the RC car apart... like by throwing it

[graceful burrow]

that thing's probably faster than my car tbh

[manic torrent]

I garauntee you that it is.

[graceful burrow]

depends if you need the pro features

[manic torrent]

it's faster than my car, so it's for sure faster than yours 😄

[graceful burrow]

mine's slow af

[desert ivy]

I have a 2017 Prius that I drive twice a week.

[graceful burrow]

old and huge
heavy grandma car

[long briar]

I drive a 2012 rav4 v6

[manic torrent]

it has 1.6kw and it weighs like 12kg

[desert ivy]

It's slow but the gas lasts forever

[long briar]

oh yea you're the oldsmobile guy

[long briar]

with how I drive... I get 400km range

stupid fuel consumption for a relatively small car

[manic torrent]

what, in traffic? 🙂

[long briar]

Rarely any bad traffic actually

[manic torrent]

I have two subarus because I am an idiot.

[graceful burrow]

it's not an oldsmobile

[long briar]

CVT or no

[fresh vector]

I’m going to double down on a desktop so maybe the team viewer could help me have a cheaper laptop but still have the power of that desktop on the go

[manic torrent]

oh god no, wtf

[desert ivy]

I mean if you want to mess with your car I hear Subaru is the brand to buy

[long briar]

k good.

[long briar]

not the new ones, old ones maybe. If you wanna kill yourself over the engine

[fresh vector]

I should rephrase that

[long briar]

use parsec

[manic torrent]

5EAT/6MT

[fresh vector]

Thank you

[desert ivy]

I would get the best tool for your needs. Otherwise you are going to compromise on what you need it the most

[manic torrent]

seconded

[long briar]

Not sure what the front one is, needs facelift cause my god that reminds me too much of the nissan juke and pontiac aztek

forgiven though, I love wagons

[fresh vector]

For a $50 price difference I would just stick with home

[manic torrent]

haha, it's a subaru tribeca, and it was $7k AUD for a 7 seater midsize SUV, so mehhhhhhhhh

[long briar]

Oh!!!

[fresh vector]

well, $50 on select websites

mainly $99

[manic torrent]

I picked up some Sti wheels for it from a mate, they are wayyyyyyy lighter and look much better.

[long briar]

Find some used or old windows 7 laptop and use the key on that. Some people even post it in their listings

[long briar]

yeh

I need new wheels on my rav4, the finish on the stock alloys is corroding

[manic torrent]

the driveline is basically from an STI A-line (auto), and it uses the EZ30 engine from the outback/legacy. The body and interior is all-american, so ... ooof 😄

[desert ivy]

I didn't get what you meant by that. But my point is that if you don't end up liking working with a remote Desktop you are going to have to spend on a new good laptop, and the money that went to the cheaper laptop is going to be forfeited.

[manic torrent]

parsec is perfectly cromulent

I accidentally started coding on my desktop the other day because I forgot I was still parsec'd to my desktop 😄

[fresh vector]

”Let me rephrase that” - Winter 11 minutes ago

[graceful burrow]

that was 8 minutes ago

[fresh vector]

yes it was

[graceful burrow]

now 11

[crude jasper]

Subaru? more like buy a toyota

instead of doing what acura does (using older, more reliable parts) Subaru does the opposite!

[vapid smelt]

but but but the new 2023 Toyota GR86 has a Subaru engine

[crude jasper]

BRZ is one of the exceptions. has better handling than the toyota cause of a sway bar or something

[wraith sonnet]

Dumb question

[vapid smelt]

oi your still up

[wraith sonnet]

Yeah and I have an interview in the morning I really should be asleep

[crude jasper]

its not noticeable unless you drive the two back-to-back however

[wraith sonnet]

Could a RAID 10 be set up to mirror to a drive of the total combined capacity?

Like 6 2tb SSDs mirroring to a 12+tb hdd

Or is that a different type of raid that I'm not thinking of

[desert ivy]

If you went with Raid you'd have 12Tb of ssd drives with the performance of a Hard Drive. I wouldn't do it

[wraith sonnet]

Is there something similar to this that would be valid?

[desert ivy]

Although there are likely solutions for that. Where you write directly on the SSDs and then just backup. On off times

[pure olive]

@wraith sonnet hello

[desert ivy]

I don't know. But you'd probably want a backup solution if your use case allows for it.

[wraith sonnet]

Jesus I think I've seen all the regulars from when I was active on here today

[manic torrent]

All dead

[manic torrent]

Hi5 I have an interview tomorrow but it is 1630 here.

[wraith sonnet]

And that's the last one

You coop aldo, cheese, tkitch, and panda

[manic torrent]

Might as well just use an SSD or two as a write cache for two hard drives.

[manic torrent]

Yes, raid is not backup

[wraith sonnet]

I'm really only starting to look at building myself a server, I have a pretty solid deal lined up for an x99 board

With a CPU and a 1080 if that's needed knowledge

[fierce moth]

raid is a tool in many ways to have a back up

you dont just have raid

[pliant karma]

nice I've just watched chat lol

but also I lost my voice so haven't spoken a single word since the morning so we just chilling in silence.

[vapid smelt]

go find it

[pliant karma]

you stole it coopa

[vapid smelt]

whaaaaaat me never

[manic torrent]

not at all

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/raid-shadow-legends-raid-gif-20940490 raid is todays sponsor

[fierce moth]

💀

[fierce moth]

i think if you have a raid 10 and a off site back up is good

maybe even a cold backup

[manic torrent]

raid is not backup. An offsite backup is backup. RAID is not backup.

This is as true today as when I learned it 20+ years ago

[wraith sonnet]

So it's likely that the solution I'm looking for is going to be raid 5 or 6 and then manually backing up to an HDD for cold storage

[fierce moth]

yeah

but you get to a point where you have so much storage it becomes unfeasible

but that doesnt seem to be a issue atm

[wraith sonnet]

At this point I'm trying to learn this stuff so I can make more than someone that works at McDonald's... Don't work for a boutique SI

[fierce moth]

what are the drives being used for?

[wraith sonnet]

Idk an extended family Plex server?

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/piracy-its-a-crime-you-wouldnt-steal-a-car-you-wouldnt-steal-a-handbag-you-wouldnt-steal-a-television-you-wouldnt-steal-a-movie-gif-20041626

[wraith sonnet]

Theoretical maximum would be about 26 users

[fierce moth]

yeah raid 5 is fine

[wraith sonnet]

The irony of one of the users being a fed is not lost on me

And a lawyer

[fierce moth]

its only movies, music and tv shows

so heck even a cold backup isnt really required unless if you dont want to dump all your stuff again in the event of faliure

[wraith sonnet]

Expected average users would be like one or two

[wraith sonnet]

This

[fierce moth]

if it was mission critical data then sure, get that cold backup up and running

[wraith sonnet]

I mean extended family so maybe family photos?

Baby pictures whatnot too

Basically tight nit Mormon family

[fierce moth]

sure

[manic torrent]

The absolute best thing about this is the music was stolen.

[fierce moth]

but id assume you would have a backup of those anyways

[wraith sonnet]

Technically no, it's in a fire proof safe currently

[fierce moth]

but sure, it would suck i would have to get all my library again but its not the end of the world

[manic torrent]

all your documents etc /pictures/ home movies/ THOSE home movies /etc /etc - backup to cloud.

[vapid smelt]

"safe" or a lockable fire proof box

[manic torrent]

I would not backup linux ISOs

[wraith sonnet]

The latter

[manic torrent]

they are all the latter.

[grim ether]

Honestly all you need is 2 cheap WD hard drives in RAID 1 for a solid backup server

its more easy than ever to keep your data safe

[fierce moth]

i just have a single 1tb drive

no issues so far

[grim ether]

I mean all you need is some cheap ones to get proper backups with redundancy going

Its just so easy nowadays, especially with how easy it is to set up software raid

[wraith sonnet]

I mean I do have some interesting isos, but not like the joke kind more like partedmagic and MRI and some other ones

[manic torrent]

If you want actual backup, I would 100% get someone else to do it. backblaze.

[grim ether]

backblaze is good

Or just Veeam Community Edition on a second PC (free after hardware)

[manic torrent]

backblaze have a solid history and offer a solid product

[wraith sonnet]

Aren't they cheaper than DIY somehow still?

[manic torrent]

barely even a backup though.

[grim ether]

Yeah ive never once had a backup fail with backblaze

[last solstice]

Waiting for nand chips to drop in price :D

[grim ether]

wdym? you can do incremental backups on ESXi, normal systems, etc with full restore points, and you can just browse the backup file structure via veeam for free

[manic torrent]

it's more that they don't fuck with it, aren't likely to do weird business shit, change their product offering horribly, etc etc.

[manic torrent]

in the same location, on the same power? it's SLIGHTLY better than raid.

[grim ether]

No im saying on a second system

[manic torrent]

yes, in the same location

[wraith sonnet]

Check pcpp my guy cheap flash is CHEAP

[grim ether]

Yes backblaze trumps it dont get me wrong

[manic torrent]

if the second system is at your friends house... sure. Maybe.

[grim ether]

Veeam is good for those who dont wanna sub to that tho

[fierce moth]

if only backblaze had support for a security key 😔

[grim ether]

Ill love backblaze as long as they keep doing what they are doing

[manic torrent]

it does.

[grim ether]

hassle free, no issue backups

[last solstice]

I want it cheaper :3c. Its honestly mesmarising knowing that the 512 ssd in my system is now worth 30 bucks instad of 100

[fierce moth]

now im slightly more interested

[grim ether]

flawless operation. zero maintenance

Ive never had to fix my backblaze backups ever

Meanwhile veeam chain shit itself from a few days of being down

[manic torrent]

step 1: encrypt your backups, step 2: done.

[wraith sonnet]

Gotta convince my uncle in Virginia to mirror whatever BS I do for the family because I don't trust California as the secondary backup location

[fierce moth]

unfortuantly im still job hunting so i cant pull the trigger yet

[manic torrent]

backblaze does support TOTP though

[vapid smelt]

1TB $30 ssds are not cheap enough?

[manic torrent]

The reality with any backup/failover/high availability is to understand what you are protecting against, and what service you're providing

[wraith sonnet]

That one may not be real

[grim ether]

me who dropped almost 500 cad on 4TB NVME

[last solstice]

No :D

[wraith sonnet]

I believe 500 gb for 30 but 1 tb might be fake still

[manic torrent]

I couldn't do it, I ended up with a 2tb (which is plenty tbh, but 4tb would be better)

[vapid smelt]

well 32-35

[wraith sonnet]

Oh

[grim ether]

I made the mistake of filling up both my slots almost immediately on my board with 1TBs (bought one at beginning and one a couple months later)
decided it will be nice in the long run as I only have 2 normal nvme slots

Im currently running all 3 nvmes tho since I have a pcie x4 to nvme card

[last solstice]

Does this mean 8 tb for 250 or smth ?

[wraith sonnet]

Anyways gn yallstdve

[grim ether]

4TB XS70 go hard ngl

would recommend to those looking for a 4TB NVME

[vapid smelt]

$400 for sata

[fierce moth]

my current server is a repurposed thin client

[grim ether]

oh well thats nice. its just dropped in price a month after I bought it. cool

[last solstice]

Damm thats pretty good compared to sabrant drive

[fierce moth]

i might upgrade the ram if i start hosting minecraft servers

[grim ether]

you can do 8TB way cheaper on SATA

oh wait do u mean SSD

[fierce moth]

not too bad

[vapid smelt]

yes sata ssd

[manic torrent]

T400 isn't mobile, that's a bug, but eh

[grim ether]

yea ok nvm
I want U.2 on my pc

[last solstice]

Storage tech man its interesting

[fierce moth]

i do wanna get a gpu for my server, but unfortuantly i dont have any pcie slots

[grim ether]

give me 32TB SSD of gen 4 nvme speeds

i want

[fierce moth]

so i have to rely on integrated graphics

[grim ether]

igpu is fine on a server

[fierce moth]

not really

[grim ether]

what are you using it for

[fierce moth]

it runs plex

and i want that nvenc

[grim ether]

ah you want nvenc

[agile heart]

that'll be 2k$

[grim ether]

cheaper than buying it in nvme form factor tbh

[agile heart]

what do you even need it for

[grim ether]

id do 2K for a 32TB drive that fast

[agile heart]

GTA6?

[grim ether]

oh I dont

but it would be nice to never ever think about slow storage again

[last solstice]

Imagine

[agile heart]

won't be enough

[fierce moth]

gta 6 is gonna come out when im all old

[grim ether]

u right. the homework folder too big

[fierce moth]

and im fuckin 17 atm

[manic torrent]

it's too late for me I'm already old

[agile heart]

hopefully it'll release next year

[fierce moth]

hmm

maybe, but isnt gta 6 the longest deved game?

[vapid smelt]

CHILD

[manic torrent]

laughs in daikatana and duke nukem

[fierce moth]

hey cut me some slack, i already finished highschool last month

[agile heart]

did you just turn 18?

[vapid smelt]

23

[fierce moth]

im currently looking for electrical apprenticeships

[last solstice]

Man there is no fossil emoji

[agile heart]

you're not even that old

[last solstice]

Or atleast discord didnt find it

[graceful burrow]

No lmao

Beyond good and evil 2 takes that title
Behind that is Duke nukem forever

[fierce moth]

damn

[last solstice]

Star citizen:

[fierce moth]

i looked it up, and it seems that duke nukem forever was in development hell

[fierce moth]

i wouldnt be surprised

[manic torrent]

I saw the quake 2 engine for the first time in a DNF development screenshot.

that should give you context.

[fierce moth]

💀

that shit is older than me

[graceful burrow]

Technically released, even if early access
We aren't talking about those games

[manic torrent]

early access and more-or-less functional is different - and also is not something that was possible back in the day

like satisfactory patches on the experimental branch at the moment are released every few days and are 7.5gb for reasons.

[last solstice]

Man we are early as fuck in humanity

[near nymph]

Dang I wish the Framework laptop has a higher refresh rate display

[manic torrent]

oh we so aren't. I would say we don't have more than a few hundred years tops

[fierce moth]

i played a bit of it, and i clipped under floors quite a bit

[last solstice]

Oo someone that has also been playing the update 8 experimental

[graceful burrow]

You see satisfactory is migrating to a new engine version
Iirc to ue5

[manic torrent]

yes, that's the experimental version I've been playing

[graceful burrow]

How's it run

[manic torrent]

like a hobo who woke up in a basement full of blood and weapons

[fierce moth]

interesting observation

[last solstice]

Prett good tbh solid 60 on a 1080 with ultra setting and upscaling

1080 graphics card 1440p resolution

[manic torrent]

I only get 40fps, but my save is huge. On a big factory SF is CPU limited.

[last solstice]

My ass restarted the game barely a factory rn

I should load my save but too lazy to back up

[last solstice]

Jesus

[fierce moth]

currently no mans sky is a alternative to sc (that i play at least)

[last solstice]

What in the actual fuck

[manic torrent]

step 1: think with portals

step 2: ... about 700 hours elapsed in that save, kek.

[last solstice]

I can see why your game is running on 40 fps now KEKW

[manic torrent]

haha yes, that's right.

[fierce moth]

i found it funny that in the nintendo direct, when they announced batman for the switch the live chat was spamming "15 fps"

[last solstice]

24 FPS is all i need

[fierce moth]

eh i just OC

as i have a modded mariko switch

[last solstice]

Once an igpu gamer always gona forget that the game is running on 10fps

[past egret]

trepang is great check it out

runs great and plays great

[fierce moth]

although my switch runs android 11

so it can run pretty much anything

[manic torrent]

The thing is because I'm running 4k at 48", you really do need to be running at native res, and you really do want a smooth frame rate because it takes up your whole vision. Smaller monitor and smaller dot pitch, or with a TV style viewing distance you can compromise, but with my setup you really can't.

[soft karma]

👋

[last solstice]

Id say you would get used to it but i was playing on a 15 inch laptop sooooo

(At 786 or 768 what ever the number the resolution is cause igpu cant 1080p)

Aah the good old days of igpu gaming

[rugged warren]

is the corsair dominator platinum rgb ram worth it or nah

[vapid smelt]

they have many models

[rugged warren]

which 1 should i get

[vapid smelt]

idfk do you need ddr ddr2 ddr3 ddr4 ddr5?

[rugged warren]

ddr5

[manic torrent]

Oh you can, but not when it's taking up your whole vision. That's what I'm saying.

[vapid smelt]

8 16 32 64 128gb?

[rugged warren]

64

but it's tempting to go with 128 tho ngl

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hRQcCJ/gskill-trident-z5-neo-rgb-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3040g32gx2-tz5nr https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pnQKHx/corsair-vengeance-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-cmk64gx5m2b6400c32

[last solstice]

Word of advice dont

Up to you though

[manic torrent]

Zero advantage, possible negatives.

[fierce moth]

128gb is only needed in specific situations

Like massive datasets, or simulations

[full fossil]

okay I can understand 32, but 64? wtf you need 64 for

only needed for some really specific things like zekrom said

[last solstice]

Its 8³?

[vapid smelt]

bigger number better

[last solstice]

Honestly this is the only reason i dislike 32

Either 16 or 64

[pure olive]

1650 > 1050

[last solstice]

But the good thing is we got 48 now

[pure olive]

1650 > 1080

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-a-minute-steve-harvey-steve-on-watch-wait-a-second-wait-a-sec-gif-16746965

[last solstice]

Man i like 24 its such a good number

[pure olive]

coop are you secretly steve harvey

[vapid smelt]

i cant grow his mustace

[pure olive]

goatee but missing stache

[vapid smelt]

@pure olive wait its way past your bedtime

[last solstice]

Did you at the wrong person cause feelsmeman

[pure olive]

i actually live in a different universe where bedtimes dont exist

[fierce moth]

Wait a minute

That means cross universal communication is possible lmao

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/movies-wazzup-scary-movie-whats-up-hi-gif-14851702

my kd

[fierce moth]

Idk why but jazz works well with shooting people in games

[full fossil]

my 5700xt oc hit 300 watts for a sec in 3dmark cause i turned the power limit up 😭

[burnt bone]

whreeeee

[manic torrent]

Hahahahahahahahaha oh man the memes about the whole orcas/billionaires/yachts/submarine/Titanic situation are absolutely banging. Some people are very offended and seem to think that billionaires are people

[broken tide]

@distant torrent if you see this dm me

[hollow zealot]

any one else having problems with their plex severs ??

[dim forge]

Ope thought was in music channel lmao

[desert ivy]

Someone's insecure about not having money.

[manic torrent]

Hahahahhahahahahhahahahahha

[desert ivy]

I like the memes. But I would laugh if they were poor people too. Being rich has nothing to do with it.

[manic torrent]

Oh no, I give absolutely zero fucks about money. I have no desire for it. I mean I need it to buy stuff. But the acquisition of capital has no allure for me.

Oh them being rich has everything to do with it.

[desert ivy]

Saying the rich are not people just reeks of someone who doesn't has money as it's resentful about it.

And*

[manic torrent]

See you absolutely don't understand the core concept

[desert ivy]

I think you are just jelly. I get it perfectly. But let me know what you think and I'll explain why you are wrong. After all the fact that billionaires are people is obvious to everyone else

[manic torrent]

I'm jealous because I'm poor?

[desert ivy]

I don't know why you are jealous. You tell me

If you think having money makes you less of a person. It's a pretty good indicator that you don't have it. Otherwise you'll see how absurd the statement is.

[manic torrent]

"having money" is not the same as "being a billionaire"

[desert ivy]

Ah, I see so at some point the billions take life of their own and suck up your soul. Or how does it work?

[manic torrent]

There are no ethical billionaires.

[desert ivy]

Why not?

I mean you live in the US. You are the 1% of the world. Don't you said you own two cars? And your computer has enough extras to save a couple of lives. Funny how you draw the line at what doesn't affect you.

Billionaires have their own set of values just like everyone else. Then there's the ones that donate a lot and pledge their fortune 🤷🏽

They sound like people to me.

[manic torrent]

I don't live in the US.

Also which is it? Am I jealous because I'm poor, or am I a hypocrite because I am not?

[desert ivy]

Wherever you live. Aren't you a 1% world wide? Or have enough to save a couple lives? Either way people have their own plans with their lives. Like Bill Gates who spends his fortune helping others.

[desert ivy]

You tell me. I covered all my bases.

I expected a little more than the ethical billionaire argument from you. Which comes from the absurd idea that wealth comes at the expense of somebody else. And is just funny seeing that argument from the privileged as if the same argument didn't apply to them.

[manic torrent]

It literally does.

That's what economics is. Allocation of limited resources.

It also shows you fundamentally don't understand power structures.

[desert ivy]

Lol. Except wealth is created by transforming resources into more than the sum of its parts. And I don't get economics 🤔

[manic torrent]

Yeah nah. I don't know what the hell wealth is doing in that sentence, because it isn't a fundamental principle of economics.

[desert ivy]

What? So because you don't get it you just say nah. Can't you take resources transform them and create value?

[manic torrent]

You didn't say value, you said wealth.

[desert ivy]

Hahaha. So now that I used the keyword that you can Google you understood. Ok 👌

[graceful mortar]

my old 1950x- 16315 points
New laptop cpu im looking at 30792 points.......
the CPU that i want 35028 points
my current laptop- 13736
think ill notice the difference?

[desert ivy]

What are you using it for?

[manic torrent]

.... No, you used the absolutely wrong term that shows you don't understand economics

[graceful mortar]

Gaming content creation. my g14 doesnt have teh oomph needed

[manic torrent]

"creating wealth" is what sigma grindset dudes say.

[graceful mortar]

premiere, Forza,

[desert ivy]

What is wealth? How do you create wealth? By accumulating value. What I said is correct, makes sense. You just didn't understood it. 🤷🏽. Which makes me confident that no matter how much you may claim to know of the subject you don't understand the concept.

[desert ivy]

In my experience GPU is what is most noticeable when it comes to FPS.

[graceful mortar]

6700s to 4090

[desert ivy]

That you'll definitely notice. And if you are going for the 4090 you'll definitely need a better CPU

[graceful mortar]

here is what forza horizon does to cpu

lol i would be mad if i jusst bought a new one

[desert ivy]

Yeah the 6900hs is a good CPU.

[graceful mortar]

i do like it but need more

desktop replacement here i come

[desert ivy]

Ah I see, yeah you won't notice the CPU speed as the 6900HS is fast enough. But you'd definitely notice a 4090

[cobalt helm]

Guys does anyone have experience with refurbished phones from certified sellers? I really want a S23 but dont like the 12 hundred price tag :/

[graceful mortar]

youll notice 13763 vs 30792 right?

[graceful mortar]

i do not, i dont even like OEM refirbs with therei " no long ipXX" disclosure.

[graceful mortar]

*cine scores

[desert ivy]

My point is that you only notice it when things are slow. It depends on your workflow. On gaming if your GPU is bottlenecking you won't notice it at all.

[cobalt helm]

Yikes....i mean its refurbished so nothing can be done for the IPX rating....

[graceful mortar]

ahh, ya im maxing both on teh g14 when gaming

[desert ivy]

Like if you render stuff on Premier maybe if it's CPU bound.

[graceful mortar]

true would have to be 30-40% new price for me to deal with it and usually they arent that cheap here

[desert ivy]

I bought a refurbished Pixel 7 Pro on Amazon last month. I figured since they are new the battery will be new. It was a Like New. And it looked like it. Saved 300 dollars in my country.

[cobalt helm]

Thats exactly the price im getting in Sweden (0.7-0.5 of OG price)

(For the Ultra and plus one)

[manic torrent]

People who want to exploit the system and have lots of money say wealth. Nobody who actually understands economics would use wealth in a sentence like that my dude. I'm guessing you also think tax is theft, and that there is no externalities involved in whatever production of value you do, and therefore you deserve all the "wealth" created.

[graceful mortar]

at 0.5 sure. i was saying 0.3-0.5 og price.

[cobalt helm]

Amazon isnt that trust worthy when it comes to phone imo but if it works then a W for you

[desert ivy]

I don't know if it still has the IPX rating. Mine had not such remarks. But I don't care a lot about it since I don't trust that rating.

[desert ivy]

They allowed me to return it if I didn't like it so I didn't saw the downside.

[cobalt helm]

Not everyone takes their phone and Air pods to shower like Carter, especially for me the IPX rating is useless

Besides, ones all phones have replacavle batteries as a selling requirement, then the IPX rating wont mattet much

Tho it might be great to have cheap flagship phones

[graceful mortar]

Sweat is the issue here.

[cobalt helm]

High expectations lol , keep in mind its still a flagship phone and not even a year has gone by since its released date...0.5 is hard to find

[graceful mortar]

ya if you can get teh thing unglued

[desert ivy]

Will that ever happen? Like batteries have no protective covers to save space. If they ever force phones to be replaceable a lot of capacity will be lost.

[graceful mortar]

its a reseller who paid under $100 for it too.

[manic torrent]

"a lot" - really?

[graceful mortar]

ya prolly back down to 1600 if replaceable again

[desert ivy]

Can you return it? If it has problems

[cobalt helm]

Im not sure about that, Do you know of Framework? I love what theyre doing and their laptops are pretty much a Macbook version of Windows (tho not as much horse power but still great) anyway, you can change anything in those laptops , who's to say same thing wont happen for Phones...we cant underestimate Samsungs and Apples engineering capabilities

[manic torrent]

What do you mean "have no protective covers"

[desert ivy]

Why not? Have you seen the size of replaceable batteries things like cameras have?

[cobalt helm]

Yeah then there is room for negotiations lol

[glacial sand]

Yo

Is it safe to assume the 5 people in the submarine are dead?

[graceful mortar]

the more replaceable the less money they make. never underestimate shareholder influence.

[glacial sand]

They have how many hours of oxygen now? Like 2?

[manic torrent]

There's a difference between user replaceable and quick changeable batteries.

[desert ivy]

Yeah. You are right.

[manic torrent]

It was safe to assume this a long time ago

[graceful mortar]

they were dead teh moment they lost communication and decided NOT to surface

[glacial sand]

There was banging heard from the submarine so they could have veen alive

[manic torrent]

No, there was banging heard.

[glacial sand]

They couldnt have just lost power or an electronic thing malfunctioned which would be the best case scenario since they would be at the top of the ocean

[graceful mortar]

cant help if you cant find it. there is a reason teathers exist

[desert ivy]

Even if they found them by now. It would take like 12 hours for them to resurface.

[manic torrent]

.... And they can't get out, and it doesn't even have an epirb

It was a death trap from day 1.

[graceful mortar]

apparently losing communication and continuing what they were doing was commonplace.

[cobalt helm]

You know even with the boards influence, no1 can stop ppl from destroying their phones IPX rating to get a new battery and keep their now old flagship for anothet few years...tho we still have to see what their plans are

[graceful mortar]

its only 90 minutes

[glacial sand]

The owner legit said he hated safety inspectors

He said they were a burden to innovation

Look where that lead him lol

[desert ivy]

I see. I read it somewhere but don't know the circumstances surrounding it.

[manic torrent]

He fired the director of marine operations for writing a safety report. And was successfully sued for wrongful dismissal.

[graceful mortar]

ya but people arent going to pay $200 for a battery swap when they can rool into ATT and get a free one in 10 minutes and have monthly payments

[glacial sand]

He got what he deserved honestly

[cobalt helm]

Not to mention risk fo death being mentioned like 3 times in the first page.... an absolute embarrassment

[glacial sand]

This would make a sick fucking movie fr

[manic torrent]

Completely

[desert ivy]

At least he bet his own life for it. Too many people gamble with others people lives and not their own.

[graceful mortar]

pretty sure there is 5 ppl onboard

[desert ivy]

Yeah. But he bet his own life too.

[manic torrent]

Yes but he literally paid experts who clearly said it was fucked. This isn't stifling innovation, it's a death wish.

[glacial sand]

69 hours under sea near the titanic where they have to cannablize each other or make sects the plot would be insane. Insane plot potential

[glacial sand]

He legit asked for it

I feel really bad for his 18 year old son though

[manic torrent]

.... Cannibalizing isn't the problem. It's dying in the stench of urine and excrement

[cobalt helm]

Your approach is kinda wrong, we need to keep in mind that the ppl on board signed papers saying the owner wont be held responsible if they die, so its kinda their fault for not thinking straight and being in that situation

[desert ivy]

I mean the guy is a moron and irresponsible. But he must've believed it was safe. Like different than the CEO of BP making decisions about safety equipment he's never going to use.

[glacial sand]

They have a toilet system but its basically camping kit levels of bathroom equipment

[manic torrent]

No, they have a piss bottle.

[cobalt helm]

Lol

[glacial sand]

No there was a thing they had let me research rq

[manic torrent]

.... Again. He literally paid experts who said it was not safe. He might have personally thought that but he's an idiot.

[desert ivy]

That's not my point. My point is that he didn't ask of other people what he wouldn't do himself. Like he's a moron, but it's not like other CEOs that take safety decisions that don't affect them.

[manic torrent]

Irrelevant .

[graceful mortar]

sooo basically it is either on teh surface bobbing around somewhere sealed..... or it stuck under something

[desert ivy]

😂. Irrelevant to what. Is my opinion on the guy. You stated yours.

[manic torrent]

..... Or it imploded.

[glacial sand]

Or something big possibly ate the submarine but thats insanely unlikely

[manic torrent]

When you pay experts for their opinions and you disregard it, you're culpable. I don't care what waivers are signed.

[graceful mortar]

can you imagine finally surfacing only to realize you will STILL die by suffocation because you cant open it from teh inside

[manic torrent]

..... In the stench, to the sound of "my heart will go on"

[glacial sand]

Its so fucking claustrophobic bro

Its something out of a horror movie

[desert ivy]

I never brought up any waivers nor said he wasn't culpable. 🤦🏽. I think this whole thing is his fault, and that he's an idiot too.

[glacial sand]

five men trapped inside a tiny 22ft tube with a single window and no seats, thousands of feet below sea level with no way of reaching the outside world.

[graceful mortar]

like bobbing away as the alarms sound....

[manic torrent]

My point is more that he is criminally idiotic, not just idiotic.

Ok so they upgraded from a piss bottle.

Still gonna stink 🙂

[glacial sand]

Yeah

[graceful mortar]

damn bet he was like. "what do you mean no epirb????"

technically they weren't supposed to disturb titanic. so i dont see how they could have gotten in a position where automatic release didnt surface them.

the pressure vessel was bespoke but everything else was make shift

[desert ivy]

The Logitech controller hahaha. They should've bought the Gold Controller for what they were charging

[glacial sand]

The logitech controller is actually industry standards

They use xbox controllers for the military

What if the controller ran out of battery and they crashed because the controller drifted and lost communication

[graceful mortar]

i wonder if they "wheelie " it into a rock or worse smacked it while launching setting up Challenger style events.

[desert ivy]

I know they use gaming controllers. But I expected to use ones from Xbox. Although if they don't sell the wired ones anymore I suppose Logitech is the next logical choice

[graceful mortar]

lol you would think it has enough boyancy to not freefall at insane speeds even with ballast.

[glacial sand]

They spent 250k to die next to the titanic💀

[graceful mortar]

well in about 20 minutes they will see a whith light and Jack Dawson

[desert ivy]

It's as good place to die as any.

[glacial sand]

Thats like spending 500k to explore a volcano which someone died in and the lavamarine implodes in lava 1.45 hours into the ship

[glacial sand]

That is the normal oxygen rate, they probably panicked and used way more oxygen and died way before then

[graceful mortar]

why ask for permission.... just how up and go. or do they mean payment.....

[desert ivy]

There's a subset of rich people have always died that way. Expeditions to remote areas, etc. It's nothing new. The next place is going to be the a space star then the moon, Mars, etc

[glacial sand]

Im scared elon will go on the first mission to mars and die

He is a billionaire and he is going to space which is like 2.6m miles away from earth so he would be way more doomed than some people 13k feet inside the earth

[desert ivy]

I doubt he'll be able to go in his lifetime. He's 51 years old, and no one is going to Mars in the next 10 years.

[glacial sand]

Humans around 51 currently have the average life span of like what 85

[graceful mortar]

Future research at the Titanic wreck is unlikely after the Titan went missing, expert says. - no one was thinking lets try that again.....

[graceful mortar]

he is in teh US.

[glacial sand]

3 more decades and hes a billionaire so he can use his money for age regress technology which isnt far off

[desert ivy]

Yeah, but the trip is going to be taxing physically. Even if he wants to, who knows if he even can.

[glacial sand]

9 minute ping also

[wind pulsar]

However dumb and irresponsible may be, you have to consider that he's dumb and irresponsible
So yeah, he's 100% going on that trip as soon as it is determined to be save enough

[dull granite]

its the

[glacial sand]

Safe*

[glacial sand]

The?

[graceful mortar]

“She sits majestically on the sea bed; (it’s) incredibly rare for a ship that sunk to be sitting upright.” in all fairness she lawndarted into the seabed.

[graceful mortar]

Rhythm of teh Night?

[desert ivy]

I mean it's his money. If he wants to spend it on a trip to Mars. I think it's way better than a super yacht at least. But the timeline isn't realistic IMO.

[wind pulsar]

You must have a lot of friends if you're doing nothing but correct grammar of foreigners, damn

[graceful mortar]

a yatch that requires bridge disassembly.....

[wind pulsar]

Elon doesn't even own a yacht

[glacial sand]

Well you edited it and still got it wrong so yeah.

[manic torrent]

Given they have no way of knowing...... The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. The porthole is rated to 1300m

[graceful mortar]

what??

[wind pulsar]

That was to edit in an emoji, I stuck to it out of spite lmfao

[glacial sand]

Well thats not my problem🔥

[manic torrent]

All right

[glacial sand]

wtf is this emoji

[manic torrent]

Yeah dude. Read the wrongful dismissal lawsuit, it's gold.

[glacial sand]

Linusgasm is crazy

[graceful mortar]

from teh OF vid i bet

[manic torrent]

The "early warning" system tells you you're about to die. Literally.

[desert ivy]

A self described racist correcting the grammar of people who have English as a second language. Lol

[glacial sand]

English is my third language so checkmate

[graceful mortar]

Hey.

[wind pulsar]

English is my third language too

[wind pulsar]

And that gives you the right to be an asshole, didn't know that

[desert ivy]

Sure Buddy.

[full fossil]

are zalman cpu coolers good

[manic torrent]

do not eat!

[glacial sand]

Didn’t know correcting people is considered being an asshole these days

[graceful mortar]

Guys why dont we just send teh titanic after here. we know it can at least get there 🧟

[full fossil]

i made a typing mistake

[glacial sand]

?? It legit is

[desert ivy]

Sounds like the type of guy who "learned Japanese just by watching anime"

[dull granite]

panasonic blu-ray now 99$
LG 42" HDTV now only for 489$ in christmas in july
go to H.H. Gregg for more christmas in july deals

[wind pulsar]

Zalman doesn't really manufacture any notable coolers nowadays, so I'd say no

[full fossil]

is cooler master or deepcool better

[glacial sand]

Indirect proof assumption

[graceful mortar]

Zalman used to teh THE shit....

[full fossil]

well a lot of ppl do lmao

[wind pulsar]

Depends on the product itself, the brand doesn't matter much

[glacial sand]

[graceful mortar]

only works if captions are synced properly

[manic torrent]

Did you know that until we discovered the wreck of the Titanic, the canonical understanding was that it went down in one piece, because the survivors were primarily..... Women. Despite having witnessed it first hand and being able to describe it in detail, and the accounts matching, it was dismissed as women being silly and hysterical until we actually found the wreckage.

[full fossil]

or is a amd stock cooler fine

[dull granite]

lmao

[full fossil]

what cpu

5600

[wind pulsar]

Anime are not a good medium to learn actual Japanese with

[desert ivy]

You learn languages by studying them not by watching cartoons.

[wind pulsar]

It's at best 'better than nothing'

[graceful mortar]

yes i did know that

[full fossil]

well I mean it can help if you watch a lot of anime

ANIME IS NOT CARTOON

[glacial sand]

Women amirite☕

[full fossil]

It's fine

[dull granite]

amirite?

[full fossil]

thx

[manic torrent]

Like... It's really a lesson on hubris and capitalism and sexism and classism .... It's perfection

[dull granite]

sounds like a rare rock name

[glacial sand]

I saw someone using it in there bio and stole it lol

[graceful mortar]

i mean it was 1912 as well though things were.... diffrent to say the least

[dull granite]

things were fucked back then

[wind pulsar]

Strictly speaking? Yes it is lol

[glacial sand]

It kind of is

[dull granite]

not only diffrent

[graceful mortar]

heavly structured i would say

[desert ivy]

Isn't anime the Japanese worth for cartoons

[manic torrent]

Yeah doesn't make it ok though

[desert ivy]

I knew it. 😂

[glacial sand]

I know alot of people who learned arabic because they watched cartoons on mbc3 so the same can apply to anime

[full fossil]

all anime shows are cartoons, but not all cartoons are anime.

but cartoons and anime are not the same

[graceful mortar]

it clearly was back then or it wouldnt hav eben ongoing

[full fossil]

cartoons have blood and gore?

[wind pulsar]

No, not it isn't
The Japanese spoken in Anime is extremely flawed and simplified, you're will not get past basics lol

[dull granite]

my hate for almost half of the population and minorities is justified because of history!!!!!!111!

[graceful mortar]

adult swim

[glacial sand]

Cartoon is animated stuff, anime is animated stuff in japan

[desert ivy]

My favorite anime is The Last Airbender

[full fossil]

but anime is a different type cartoon

[wind pulsar]

I'm very certain that to a lot of people Spongebob is more terrifying than most horror movies

[glacial sand]

If you watch maybe one piece or something you can learn something from 1000 episodes right?

[wind pulsar]

The best you will learn is some cringy fantasy Japanese

[manic torrent]

It was happening, but it still wasn't ok.

[full fossil]

if you watch somthing like chainsaw man or demon slayer you wil change your mind over that anime ar kid cartoons

[wind pulsar]

You don't need to act like you know what you're talking about if you haven't even learned Japanese

[dull granite]

are you dumb

[full fossil]

no

[dull granite]

cartoon =/= animated kids show

[full fossil]

demon slayer aint a kids show

[wind pulsar]

Neither is Family Guy

[dull granite]

and it's still a cartoon

[desert ivy]

Nope. Unless you study it and watch it without subtitles. But then again you'll need to have a thousand hours on the language before that works.

[glacial sand]

Im not trying to be an expert on this topic. Im saying people can learn languages from cartoons. If people can learn mandarin and arabic which are both extremely complicated languages from cartoons whats stopping anime

[dull granite]

nah

[dull granite]

i mean, i learned some of my english thru playing games and watching english youtube

[graceful mortar]

i mean......

[dull granite]

what?

[full fossil]

[desert ivy]

I'm* what's*. Please speak properly

[wind pulsar]

The way said media is portrayed. I know it is absolutely possible to learn languages via cartoons, but I know it is infinitely harder with Anime specifically

[glacial sand]

Well 99% of learning a language is getting yourself involved in an environment which uses the language you’re trying to learn. If you are genuinely interested in something and know the language structure you can learn from it

[graceful mortar]

thats what teh tobacco companies said and they got shot down.

[dull granite]

and? US law legistrators aren't more right

[wind pulsar]

I actually know a Romanian guy who learned German watching German 'Heidi, Girls of the Alps' when he was a kid, so I know it's possible

[dull granite]

if cartoon are commonly associated with kids shows then they might be just as dumb as most of people

[wind pulsar]

The difference is that the language doesn't get significantly simplified like they do in Japanese anime

[glacial sand]

Well if you watch some slice of life anime and not something that uses extreme fantasy catagorys you could but i dont really know since ive never bothered to learn Japanese

[desert ivy]

Did he study it also? Like TV helps as practice. But you need to study the grammar so you can actually know enough for TV to be useful.

[dull granite]

also US conservatism also is based on "protecting the kids!!!" so they will probably do everything

[wind pulsar]

The Genre doesn't matter, it's how anime is at its core

[graceful mortar]

Objectives. To determine if RJR Nabisco's cartoon-theme advertising is more effective in promoting Camel cigarettes to children or to adults.

so like "supposed to" vs "actually does"

[glacial sand]

You forgot the .*

[full fossil]

anime has a different art style and is mostly targeted at a differend age group

[glacial sand]

Two can play at that game.

[dull granite]

have you ever heard about COPPAs 2019 guidelines for youtube

[full fossil]

no

[dull granite]

by thier definition, hazbin hotel would be a kid friendly video

[desert ivy]

I forgot the what. Finish your sentences. 😂

[wind pulsar]

Not at all. He had to learn it in school afterwards, but he never really studied anything specifically and just did it with trial & error

[full fossil]

i have a test tommorow

[wind pulsar]

Aka going to Teamspeak, joining a German GMOD server as staff and getting corrected by Germans

[full fossil]

help me

[full fossil]

no

no

[wind pulsar]

I wonder what Family Guy, American Dad etc are if cartoons are only for kids

[glacial sand]

What are you talking about im saying you forgot to put . at the end of please speak properly🤦‍♂️

[desert ivy]

I bet that the school part was what actually did it. Friends with English subtitles helped me a lot expanding my vocabulary when I was 13.

[wind pulsar]

No lol

[full fossil]

this is a pc discord not a cartoon discord

[desert ivy]

You got to finish your sentences dude.

[full fossil]

I was watching all that when I was little lol

[wind pulsar]

He was very fluent way before taking classes for it, you don't actually need to study to learn a language

[graceful mortar]

Search vehicle reaches sea floor as teams race to find sub... as teh O2 supply ran out

[glacial sand]

I don’t think anime is speaking a different type of japanese at its core though? I could be wrong.

[wind pulsar]

And you'd be wrong

[full fossil]

is this even a pc discord

[wind pulsar]

I'm not gonna repeat myself, I told you several times now

[dull granite]

PC?

[glacial sand]

Im genuinely confused what the fuck are you talking about?

[desert ivy]

I don't watch anime because I'm not a kid though.

[dull granite]

die

[full fossil]

ANIME is not for kids

[full fossil]

It's a tech discord server*

[desert ivy]

You are correcting me about not finishing my sentences with a period without doing so yourself. 😂

[wispy marsh]

Hello

[full fossil]

yes

anime is not tech\

[wispy marsh]

Are we going to be civil today?

[full fossil]

Who cares

[dull granite]

it's like saying "i don't watch ANY form of computer animated show because i'm not a kid"

[desert ivy]

LinusTechTips is for intellectuals and grown ups like myself. Anime is for children.

[dull granite]

lmao

[dull granite]

self dickriding moment

[full fossil]

damn man got the bot

[wispy marsh]

Fun fact: Linus once thought about producing an anime series about his badminton sessions

[wind pulsar]

That'd be hilarious

[desert ivy]

Probably for his kids.

[wispy marsh]

Hey Akira!

[wind pulsar]

Speaking of;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVT3WUa-48Y

[wispy marsh]

It's for the audience

[full fossil]

no its not

[wind pulsar]

Hey!

[full fossil]

so is anime

[wispy marsh]

[dull granite]

what?

[full fossil]

wtf

[dull granite]

what does it mean

[glacial sand]

Ending with an emoji acts the same way as a period. I get what you are trying to do with the correcting thing because i corrected her but her entire sentence became flawed because safe and save are two entirely different words. Me not using ‘ between im isnt gonna devandalize my sentence

[full fossil]

It's like saying P which I can't say

[dull granite]

die

[wispy marsh]

Yeah, public being public today

[wind pulsar]

So flawed that everyone else understood it perfectly fine

[full fossil]

this is the offical linus anime discord

[glacial sand]

I saw that, their entire channel has videos which are entirely ai generated

[dull granite]

this is fucking discord, everyone who
Speaks like this.
sounds like a fuckin madman

[wispy marsh]

[full fossil]

why

[wind pulsar]

What?

[full fossil]

linus anime tips

[wind pulsar]

I don't know why you would say 'entire channel', which implies that they only use ai generated shit

[full fossil]

[wind pulsar]

They're reserved for Floatplane subscribers since it'd be near impossible to moderate them otherwise

[dull granite]

no?

[desert ivy]

It's a typo that didn't need correcting because everyone got it. And again you didn't end your sentence with a period after correcting me for not doing it. You say correcting someone doesn't make you an asshole and here I am being one to you just by correcting you.

[wind pulsar]

Oh the RPS video is AI generated. They recorded the movements for it, but the style it is rendered in is AI generated

[desert ivy]

There's only one good anime and it's Dragon Ball. Because it reminds me when I was a kid. Because it's for kidsm

[summer folio]

1337 EU!

[dull granite]

wait

[full fossil]

does anyone want me to talk in nederlands

[wispy marsh]

Hey, Lome

[dull granite]

i think it was like one character animated with cgi and anime style and another one was AI

[wispy marsh]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933705073505222666/1095294473732370452/image.png

[full fossil]

hallo

[graceful mortar]

you.... you dont think Russia will egg on its face and turn Zaporizhzhia into another Chernobyl USSR style do you?

i mean i know they dug trenches in the red forest, and pissed off all teh Countries that paid for new containment structure. got radiation poisioning, etc.

[full fossil]

ik ben op discord aan het chatten

hoe gaat het met jullie

[wind pulsar]

How about you have lookie at cool FFXIV screenshot.

[graceful mortar]

is that cat dog? looks teh same to me

[dull granite]

cool, pretty cool

lome don't continue typing

[wispy marsh]

Temptation!

[desert ivy]

Pixar is for kids too and I like it too. Maybe there's anime that's for young teens. But it isn't some deep art form that's for sure. With some exceptions of course.

[wind pulsar]

I have more, but they're probably not appropriate for this chat. x')

[wispy marsh]

I submit

[dull granite]

flinstones

[wind pulsar]

Oh there is anime that's so gore-y I have no idea what to do with life, demand is scary

[wispy marsh]

Reminds me of this one wholesome manga titled "It's time for torture, Princess!"

[wind pulsar]

She's in a one-piece swimsuit with a coat, but not gonna risk anything, yk xD

Wait, I actually have part of it as my profile banner, gg

Completely forgot about that

[wispy marsh]

I'm pretty sure there are some communities that appreciates gatekeeping for preferences on anime and the such.

They're in a place far from here that Rule 2 can never reach.

[wind pulsar]

Low effort screen but good use of mods

[wispy marsh]

AAAAAAAAA

MIQO

[graceful mortar]

is..... is this the new Reddit?

[desert ivy]

In all seriousness there's anime for adults for sure, but most of it it's not. I've watched and enjoyed some, I was just baiting people.

[wind pulsar]

Miqo indeed

[desert ivy]

I'm banned from Reddit for 6 more days.

[wind pulsar]

I am not surprised

[wispy marsh]

I'll bait you.

The elder communities love My Little Pony.

[manic torrent]

.... Wot?

Animated tv shows and movies are animated. That's it.

[wind pulsar]

It's quite the opposite actually

[manic torrent]

What would you know 😉

[wind pulsar]

These days the anime industry revolts around just exploiting as much money from jobless shut-ins as humanly possible

[mint yacht]

Lmao

The censor box

[manic torrent]

And ones that have jobs particularly, because they have more money

[wind pulsar]

I'm not risking anything! xD

[desert ivy]

Aren't the most popular animes, like One Piece, SAO, designed for children, and people on their early teens?

[wind pulsar]

One Piece I'd say yes

[wispy marsh]

You want old anime?

[wind pulsar]

But you have to consider that this anime is also 20+ years old
That's still from the time where people wanted this kind of anime

[wispy marsh]

Berserk, School Days, Yu Yu Hakusho

Guts and glory!

[wind pulsar]

If you could check the screens I considered sending in and verify their safety I'd be happy

[tired lion]

hi everyone

[mint yacht]

Sure

[manic torrent]

It would be just as stupid to say this about western animation

[wispy marsh]

Roadrunner and pkmn is my favourite anime as a kid

[neon mesa]

a lot of anime "for younger people" has a rather deep plot under it

[wispy marsh]

Senko!

[neon mesa]

even some western animation made for kids has deep ass plot
like cars 2 was dark lmao

[desert ivy]

For me is Dragon Ball, I watched some of the original Pokemon.

[wispy marsh]

Senko is amazing

[full fossil]

is curved monitor good for gamming

[desert ivy]

Yeah like The Last Airbender which is my favorite anime. And is made for kids.

[graceful mortar]

catching up on yesterdays live stream. poor plouffe

[wispy marsh]

Livestream?

[manic torrent]

Short answer: yes.
But... It also depends.

[wind pulsar]

Anyway, just my pfp then, it's from the image anyway

[graceful mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRHcTfTfEp0

ya live stream