public-chat

[gentle slate]

?

didnt ask

[rough birch]

I'd assume not, just that'll probably take a bit longer to charge?

[mint yacht]

Longer battery life, as fast charging is bad for that

[strange elk]

Havent even gotten to see Emily's introduction yet

[rough birch]

_ _

[noble gazelle]

Uhhhh WHAT!!!

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/12vhpwr-connector-melting-psu-side

[fossil frost]

<@&750150305383186585> really? hes clearly doing it on purpose now

[mint yacht]

Yes, I'd just like to see something a little more incriminating

[steep girder]

Yes if the phone explicitly supports slower charging modes. Then there's probably a net positive benefit rather than loss if you use a charger which exactly fits one of the slower charging modes the phone can do.

Idk about disabling fast charge. Usually you use a brick which is for one of the slow(er) charging modes

[fossil frost]

fair enough

[steep girder]

So for instance new Samsungs now have at least two fast charging modes. The second fastest one was at one point the top one in previous models. Then there's that default 5V 2A minimum or something. But the fast charging is higher voltages DC output

Amps you don't care about as long as it's enough. If your brick is giving off anything below how much current it pulls, it's probably worse for phone

[mint yacht]

Emily is her name now. Anthony is their old name

[steep girder]

Disabling fast charge software idk. It should be possible because a phone can just set the voltage regulators to step down but that's sub-optimal probably

Then there's also specific chargers which change their own output depending on what the phone negotiates at connection

[mint yacht]

She is transgender. She is a woman

[gentle slate]

I was thinking of setting up the routine thing on Bixby so slow charging gets enabled at like.. 10PM or something

[steep girder]

Which is the same thing as regulating voltage in phone but ideally you want to have that happen inside charger. The charger gets hotter not the hardware in phone

[past egret]

games in 2023 is not over, its actually so fucking back

[gentle slate]

Maybe I acn get an Anker charger that self regulates?

[fossil frost]

she, and her...

[gentle slate]

After seeing what my S9's battery turned into after some time, I'd like to take the best measures to protect my S23's battery.

[steep girder]

Plus you don't care about charger

[gentle slate]

tfw I have to charge my S9 every 2 hours otherwise it flatlines

[rough birch]

... Does Samsung's A series phones have a similar problem?

Oh shit wrong person lmao srry

Wait why did it send as a reply

[fossil frost]

she

[steep girder]

Yes so for S23 here's EXACTLY what to do:

Use a real samsung charger from an older phone. The safest should be old enough samsung charger which says 5V output on the back. That is the slowest charge mode which will keep your battery life longest

But there should be a few samsung chargers in between which also supported by new phones and yet faster than the oldest 'slow charge'

[gentle slate]

Hmmm. I should have an S4 charger around

[steep girder]

Right. Use it!

[mint yacht]

Yeah, she is a woman now, her name is now Emily

[fossil frost]

convinced that they are a troll now?

using russian military symbols?

[rough birch]

Sus tbh

[mint yacht]

Yeah that was enough for me to see lol

[steep girder]

Right but isn't the whole idea that they were (or at least felt) like a woman all along. They didn't 'become' their new identity. They just kind of revealed it to the public and made it known that they prefer to be identified as such?

[mint yacht]

Yeah, my bad for wording it like that

[steep girder]

Well lol that's my whole question. Knowing the kind of person Emily is in terms of character, is it even expected to walk around eggshells so much? Misgendering/misnaming/misidentifying somebody is only bad in the end if it hurts the person in question's feelings.

If somebody is truly confused about wtf is going on and somebody has to clue them in lol

[fossil frost]

they played at being clueless... then they started tagging messages about it with the Russian flag and the ZOV symbol (the Z that the Russian nationalists invading Ukraine are using)

[steep girder]

I think it's more beneficial to explicitly say that Anthony and Emily are the same person it's just that they feel inside as a she and finally decided to make it known publicly that they prefer to be identified as she now with the name Emily. I see no harm in that. I personally have no problem with this. If somebody says they feel a certain way on the inside and prefer to be identified a certain way, I wouldn't deny them that

[rough birch]

I did put 🏳️‍⚧️ on the message so I may be faulted for that

[fossil frost]

but you didnt put the russian flag on it, and ZOV on it though...

[steep girder]

But like misgendering on accident or tripping up by some technicality when trying to discuss the fact itself...
Do you think Emily the kind of person to take serious offence to that and expect everybody to just instantaneously get used to this news coming to light?

[fossil frost]

again, the problem was, the troll was trolling, and purposefully going out of their way to get things wrong, and then started targetting messages with a symbol analagous with a symbol used by the germans in the 1940s

[rough birch]

Nobody immediately has to agree to anything, but they can be at least somewhat respectful

[steep girder]

That's like expecting somebody to become less understanding or more demanding and selfish in character just because they transitioned or revealed new gender identity lol. Anthony seemed like a cool guy from what I'd seen. I don't see a reason why Emily wouldn't be just as cool, fun and Linux loving lmao

[gentle slate]

conversation

[south stone]

LMAO @ Linus Drop Tips Synced to Mr Blue Sky on youtube. XD

[fossil frost]

yeah, i dont get what they are replying to now

[steep girder]

Exactly my point. You don't have to believe in censored speech or be forced to do anything in order to not act like a total dick lol

[steep girder]

Idk I was actually on the fence. I mean I could easily see how some people genuinely haven't clued in yet. What gave it away as definitive proof of trolling? Don't forget all this stuff has basically transpired not even 10 years ago.

[gentle slate]

so to properly use my S23+, I need bluetooth headphones, C to A adapter, new charging brick

tfw you have to buy half the phone package for a flagship

My S9 had the decency to arrive with adaptes, cable, charger, headphones.. sigh

[steep girder]

I mean if it's trolling, that's obviously kind of a jackass thing to do. But with this, you really ought to be 100% positive on calling it out. If somebody is genuinely confused and not trolling, I think it would be far more beneficial to explain lol.

[fossil frost]

they were tagging replies to their questions with the russian flag, and ZOV in the reactions, the ZOV symbol is the russian military Z that means the same thing as the german symbol from the 40s meant

[steep girder]

Z? What German symbol in the 40s do you speak of lmfao

[fossil frost]

the symbol that i cant mention without getting warshipped 😄

[gentle slate]

the one that looks like a windmill

[rough birch]

Tbh that shoulda been the first guess from their PFP + the bio

[steep girder]

Well the name of the party starting with N was just an acronym for Nationalist Socialist something something Party but in German

[fossil frost]

yeah, those guys

[steep girder]

There were a few symbols. None of them were Z as far as I remember

[fossil frost]

i never said it was... i said it has an analagous meaning

[steep girder]

Oh. Idk so you meant zwastika :P

[fossil frost]

the russians are using it as a symbol of their "purge" of ukraine

[rough birch]

Isn't the "original" image an emoji somewhere?

Cause I like the original, if those posts are true

[steep girder]

Idk but that's not exactly a bad word. If you're flying the version they used proudly or cheering it on as a good thing in that context, then yeah, it's evil and racist. Very inconsiderate of the people you're doing it before given that some of them might still be children or grandchildren of those affected by atrocities

The original non-ww2 fascist ones are also generally called swastikas. It's just the name of the symbol shape basically

[fossil frost]

the symbol its self, in the correct orientation, is an ancient religious symbol with many different meanings (usually a similar meaning to the cross in christianity), the german fascist party rotated it 45 degrees and appropriated it and made its meaning to be what they wanted it to be... it still used today in its correct orientation as a religious symbol

[steep girder]

But search up even on like wikipedia Olympics and other international sports during WW2. That was Germany's official flag one way or another. Evil as it was sadly. They were still welcomed in the world of sports for the sake of good sportsmanship.

Tbh since they were so racist and supremacist as they claimed... they had a chance to prove it in fair competitions lol. It was good that everybody welcomed them. There was a point in time when US showed them just how wrong and pathetic their whole ideal was lol

[fossil frost]

and the olympics in germany at the time... they refused to give medals to certain people

[steep girder]

Well wdym. Medals are given by whoever is performing ceremony lol. Like olympic commitee I'm guessing ultimately recognizes official results

Or doesn't. Whichever country is hosting does the rest because it's their stadiums, everything else. They are hosting so they have to set it up. Were the Olympics ever hosted in Germany during ww2?

[fossil frost]

this is gonna be a long one but:

aaaaaaaand warshipped

look up "Jesse Owens"

[steep girder]

I don't get why things like the party name are censored tbh. Imo it's actually beneficial to talk about it and you can use the word in a non-offensive context. It could be not only more offensive but physically detrimental to just ban any mention of it because to this day people have no clue about what truly the evil was and what all those other things surrounding it mean historically

[fossil frost]

its banned because of how people use it against other people now... people are arseholes, and cannot behave... yes it should be allowed so it can be discussed in a civil way... but... people are not civil 🙂

[true kayak]

Am i just stupid or was there never a part 2 of the gaming Minivan?

[steep girder]

Like the N- party name is actually just an acronym for socialist party basically in German. But the key thing to consider is how that name (especially the socialism) were incredibly misrepresentative of what truly the party's intentions were... intentions that sadly got to be actualized and carried out

I mean as always, the socialism technically could be justified to have existed... at least on paper maybe. But it's a corrupt and very broken one at best. Also, again, there was a secret ulterior motive which definitely didn't intend to benefit the 'society' lol

Then there's nationalism which yeah it was hella nationalist. Both economically and the other ways. To this day people conflate economic nationalism with 'racism' or 'fascism' or 'x race supremacy'. Economic nationalism is nothing more than government valuing its own well being before everyone else's in international trade idk

[mighty lantern]

Hey guys

[graceful burrow]

Hi

[gentle slate]

recommend good bluetooth headphones that wont make me go bankrupt

[graceful burrow]

#audio-tech

We aren't Bing ai bud

[gentle slate]

ok carry on with the windmill symbol converastion

[inland oracle]

yeah like that is on topic

[graceful burrow]

Tbf I never participated in that lol

[stray apex]

Apple airpods max

[gentle slate]

ok sponser me them

[rough birch]

Should really let that 🥭
Could make this a joke about Vangougj

[inland oracle]

thinking of getting sonic frontiers, havent been spoiled about anything other than the soundtrack so

[rough birch]

How do you spell his name?

[inland oracle]

is sonic frontiers worth the buy?

[graceful burrow]

I've heard good things about it but haven't played it myself

I've heard more good than bad
For a 3d sonic game that's rare

[molten tartan]

Good news guys

[steep girder]

Economic nationalism simply makes sense for whichever nation you're living in. It means your own elected government represents interests in your well being. The Germans in WW2 went really hard at it and demonstrated how as always it really booms the economy of country. Having said that, this was separate from why they needed the sudden boom. They used the really fast manufacturing of machines and such for one of the most evil acts committed in human history. This is where the bad socialism comes in too because 'everybody in our society' was building the economy but the 'benefit for society' immediately redefined society to just like one party in government's interest. Outside of that, all it meant was serious damage to everyone else in the world

[gentle slate]

Galaxy Buds. Any thoughts?

[graceful burrow]

Can you stop spewing about politics and stuff

I don't think anyone here gives a shit

[graceful burrow]

What news 👀

[sage quiver]

This is not the server for political/ideological discussion.

[sage quiver]

Aldo pls be nice

[graceful burrow]

Jawa said what I said but way nicer lol

[gentle slate]

wait was aldo considered rude there

[graceful burrow]

Yes

[molten tartan]

I got sent something cool in the mail for free by the company Kodak

[idle nymph]

Yep he Was

[graceful burrow]

Show me now

[molten tartan]

i put it in #creative

since we cant put images in the main chat

[idle nymph]

We blue people can

[molten tartan]

keep in mind im not sponsored by them

[graceful burrow]

How did you manage to get that

[molten tartan]

I just shoot there film stock and shoot film

[idle nymph]

What is even that?

[gentle slate]

Old school films

[molten tartan]

Photographic Film

[gentle slate]

for analogue cameras. Ancient rock age technology

[idle nymph]

Ohhh yeah my grandpa has that

[graceful burrow]

I'm stuck on expired films because I can't afford portra or anything new 😩
I just started shooting a few weeks ago

[molten tartan]

interesting though film is rising back in popularity

[molten tartan]

you from the united states or europe

[graceful burrow]

Usa

[idle nymph]

USA

[molten tartan]

recommend gold 200 or 400 if you can find it

[graceful burrow]

I just got in some lightly expired (2008) Kodak max 400

[steep girder]

Well my whole point is there shouldn't be anything up for discussion in terms of ideologies pertaining to that ww2 stuff. It's simply a monstrous ideology which not only shouldn't be acceptable, but it should be condemned as the pure evil it was (demonstrated in actual history)

But this specifically because everybody gives a sht when it comes to this. This ideology actualized and carried out in practice means that no matter who you are, it could potentially justify you as a target simply because you are a part of some group... to eradicate you with no possible justification

[graceful burrow]

5 rolls
So I'm set for a little thankfully

[eager notch]

Why the hell do I keep getting reccommended Louis Rossman

[molten tartan]

just remember one thing Aldo

[graceful burrow]

One day I'll shoot portra
And an even further day from that I'll get my hands on aero chrome 😈

[molten tartan]

dont burn through the rolls like tic tacs

[fallen cedar]

because he wants your attention

[fossil frost]

because hes very closely associated with similar topics as ltt

[idle nymph]

We will most likely not read allat

[graceful burrow]

I'm not
Can't afford to develop 30 rolls at once

[eager notch]

He's annoying though

[molten tartan]

smart man 👌🏾

[eager notch]

Develop them yourself then

[fallen cedar]

yeah but he fights the good fight so gotta represent

[graceful burrow]

You just do 120 and 35?

[molten tartan]

both

[eager notch]

Wat

[steep girder]

Exactly. Not only some people who opt to not learn about that part of history. But today sometimes it's censored or considered taboo to bring up by name as if it's fkn Voldemort

[graceful burrow]

Plan to
Upfront cost is a bit
Paterson tank + chemicals + sous vide

[fossil frost]

i need some tech solution, such as mechanical legs, to solve my problem of being eaten to fuck by mosquitos today while on the mountain bike...

[steep girder]

But unless you learn your history, you have no way to prevent those historical mistakes in question... you don't even know what they are

[molten tartan]

I rock a Leica M4-2 and sometimes depending on how I feel I got the Nikon F3, OIympus Mju II that I got for free

[eager notch]

Well if you were like me and already had a sous vide, it wouldn't cost as much.

[molten tartan]

For 120, I got the Mamiya C330 and the RB67

[graceful burrow]

I mainly shoot a Minolta xg-7 for 35

I don't have a 120 camera but I have a good condition Kodak tourist I that takes 620
Its unfortunately a pretty tight fit so I can't use 120 in it unless I actually respool it

[molten tartan]

ooh 620 thats a rare one right there

I got some 110 stuff and APS stuff

I got 2 rolls of Portra 400vc for expired kodak stock

[graceful burrow]

I do have a 110
One of those purple and seafoam green Vivitar/avon point 'n' shoots

[molten tartan]

and one roll of something in 220

[steep girder]

WW2 wasn't politics. It was a dangerous half-truth which a delirious nut had paranoid or hateful deeply rooted mental issues believed to be a conspiracy by a serious percentage of the entire Earth's population. Then it was presented as politics to everybody. Sadly they believed it because it coincided with a few other things by happenstance. Like the oppressed group already having centuries' discrimination against them and the nut happened to be in a position of power

[idle nymph]

This is a tech server

[steep girder]

Fair enough I'll stop.

[molten tartan]

oooh some lomography stock

the tiger 200

[graceful burrow]

Checked you out on insta
Some great photos

[idle nymph]

Thanks 👍

[molten tartan]

Ah thank you! 👌🏾

[molten tartan]

Got the funny name too to add on

[steep girder]

Tbh even tech... there are politics as we speak going on by people whose sole aim is to give you less say, autonomy and privacy with respect to all digital electronics in general.

[molten tartan]

might post something tomorrow depending on how I feel!

[idle nymph]

Tech server, not politic rant server

[graceful burrow]

I bet I'll see it

[graceful burrow]

Do you home develop + scan or send it off to a lab?

[molten tartan]

slide film and soon B&W

but c41, I will always send to the lab

[idle nymph]

Also my english skill aint high enough for this

[molten tartan]

Mainly comes down to me being proactive and also supporting local photo stores and buisness

Usually I rock the lab nearby for me

which in the case of San Diego would be George's Camera off University & 30th St

[steep girder]

Well tech rant: picture buying GPU but it gets deactivated remotely by manufacturer because your credit card payment accidentally got declined for monthly service subscription.

You were sold a GPU as minimally some expansion card which is a U that P's G. You own the product and yet later on you were prevented from using it in that sense because you're required to make payments for a service you didn't want in the first place

Now picture not only did that happen but you weren't even made aware of in any way upon purchasing that product about this service subscription and what its implications are...

[molten tartan]

Maybe in the near future before school starts, I'm gonna buy a Negative Supply Scanning Setup

[idle nymph]

This is scary asf

[steep girder]

But finally, picture it clearly being illegal and worthy of at least a refund due to laws in your state because there is a law which gives consumer some warranty that at least product works as advertised out of box... fair right?

Then somebody comes along and claims that you purchasing this product somehow doesn't give you full autonomy as an owner of said product and they still have certain rights to do stuff to it

[idle nymph]

Start making horror books for tech nerds

[steep girder]

Only problem is nobody really defines ownership of a physical good beyond a certain point because it's not up to any person at all. It can't be.

[tardy terrace]

hello friends,,

how
are
y'all

[steep girder]

Well that's the thing... it's already happening. This is just sci without the -fi.

And this sci without the -fi is sadly of that dystopian variety

[idle nymph]

Im hoarding old gpu so if they do that im safe

[golden sorrel]

Who watch the watchers and AI is not a correct answer fot that3.

[steep girder]

Tbh I don't know even if that will prevent driver update from legally bricking your GPU eventually if it gets bad enough. The thing is they are convincing lawmakers that it is possible at all to redefine possession of physical property

[idle nymph]

Well i dunno

But im not sleeping well tonight

[steep girder]

So eventually, if they have their way, any product you bought from them for sure is already 'yours' only to the extent they 'defined'

[golden sorrel]

If manufactures can deside, you are only renting .

[rough birch]

(⁠⊙⁠_⁠◎⁠) I think I agree with Cheeseburger about the book thing

[idle nymph]

Yeah

[steep girder]

Right. Renting is fine. But you're sold ownership over something as a physical good explicitly. Then you somehow end up renting it in the end without any rhyme or reason. Nor did you know about it. Apparently this is already happening with like HP printer.

[winged ferry]

boutta sell my 1660 super for around $100 and im gonna get a rx 6650 for like $250

sounds like a good deal

also im gonna get a new pc case and motherboard

[distant lava]

What would be the best way to reach the team?

I have some vintage development hardware that I think Linus and his team would be interested in making a video about. Similar to the Nintendo DS Dev kit, and the Xbox dev kits, etc...

[winged ferry]

cuz mine is an ugly lenovo legoin pre built case and the shitty motherboard it came with isnt compatible with a lot of things

anyone got suggestions for motherboards under $100?

[steep girder]

Like in a lot of cases, if you buy some physical good which is not whole, 'broken' or simply not what exactly it's supposed to be in any sense. So first of all, it's important to have a real scientific definition of these things if you want to use them for legislative definitions. Not whole and broken are simply 'not the product as exactly advertised' to you. It's simple.

[graceful burrow]

Lucky to have a local
I'm in south dakota there ain't shit here
There's so much nothing here in terms of film developing I've had the thought of doing it

[rough birch]

Anybody happen to know if TiVo ever locked down HDDs in their products? I could just take one from an old box I have

[distant lava]

I have to run now, but if anyone from LMG see's this and is curious, I'd love to speak with you further on this matter.

Please DM me on Discord if there is any interest here. (I promise this would be hardware you'd be interested in...)

[graceful burrow]

Starting my own little film developing

[steep girder]

Tl;dr it's only considered an exchange agreed upon by both parties if they both not only consent to giving/receiving whatever it is but the exchange in question was exactly of those things they agreed upon

Another way to look at it is if you and I were to agree that I sell 3 of my fresh chicken eggs to you for 5 CAD but you paid me 5 CAD and I secretly gave you 3 rotten goose eggs

[sage quiver]

https://linusmediagroup.com/contact-us

[steep girder]

This could also be looked at as a completely different exchange which both parties didn't agree upon

[weary tiger]

avast on my pc pops up a windows that says this but im not on that website or i never visit it

can some one help?

the image is in screenshots

[steep girder]

Which means I essentially stole 5 bucks Canadian from you. However, therein lies another important thing. You gave me the fiver 'yourself' voluntarily and I didn't lift it from you or forcefully take it. That somehow makes it different and we have other names for it like fraud or scamming. It seems to make perfect sense intuitively to everyone. But why is me taking something without your knowledge or forcing it out of your hands different from you handing me it under circumstances different from the terms you agreed upon

[lucid echo]

Terms & Conditions exist for a reason

If the seller didn’t define the T&C clearly, it’s on them. If the buyer didn’t read T&C/research a summary of T&C, it’s on them.

If a GPU is subscription-based then that would be laid out in the T&C

[rough birch]

Google Stadia basically?

Eh, there's also Colab.

[steep girder]

Well apart from agreeing to terms and conditions, what's that other key objective thing that's always implied to happen?

[lucid echo]

I dunno but i’m certain you’ll provide me a paragraph explaining it.

[steep girder]

The very same parties who agree to terms and conditions can comply or break them.

[lucid echo]

That sounds like something for the courts to settle, then

[broken folio]

In the uk, consumer laws would define that as not fit for purpose and a return and refund would have to be given if a repair or replacement wasn't possible. There's also a mandatory 14 day cooling off period for all online or mail order purchases unless they're bespoke. The same applies with anything involving a credit agreement, mandatory 14 day cooling off.

[steep girder]

Which makes the compliance existential in the same exact way and to the same extent as the parties agreeing

[lucid echo]

That’s how all laws and contracts work, dude

Laws against theft don’t physically prevent me from breaking into a house and stealing a TV

[steep girder]

Right. But you're always either aware of whatever that physical good is exactly or not. No in between.

[broken folio]

Indeed, goods have to be labelled correctly or companies will get flooded with returns.

[steep girder]

After that, you might only have not been reasonably diligent enough and misinterpreted/misread/ignored something. Having said that, there is an exact finite amount of things which you are made aware of before agreeing to the exchange

[lucid echo]

That is how modern commerce works, yes

Welcome to hell!

[steep girder]

The person selling you a thing can lie through omission ultimately. That's exactly what happens when they brick your printer because you didn't pay for service not mentioned at all

[lucid echo]

That's exactly what happens when they brick your printer because you didn't pay for service not mentioned at all
No, those things are explicitly defined in the T&C
Don't lie just to fit your philosophical narrative

[steep girder]

But if you think about it carefully, what that's saying is there is a service you must rent upon which this product functioning as advertised (at all) is predicated

[lucid echo]

If HP didn't lay all that out in T&C there would be a class action suit against them in an instant, don't fool yourself

There's no ambiguity here

[steep girder]

So they're really not telling you that you're buying a printer-shaped brick which doesn't work at all + as a bonus it has the rest of your expected functionality but only as long as you pay subscription.

[lucid echo]

They are explicitly telling you that in the T&C

That's why T&C exists. They're not lying, they're just relying on you to not read them

This isn't secret or elusive or existential

[steep girder]

Ok well first of all T&C don't change anything retroactively for sure. You're obviously suggesting that you agreed after the purchase (mutually consented exchange) was made

[lucid echo]

Any subscription you subscribe to comes with a T&C, no company is dumb enough to do otherwise

[steep girder]

But most importantly, the whole idea is that there can be no terms or conditions for owning something. You're not licensed to use it. You own the damn thing. Lol

[lucid echo]

That would be nice, wouldn't it?

Companies go to great lengths to make these conditions very explicit, otherwise they'd be sued out of business. You setup a subscription to pay. That sub comes with T&C which you must agree to. It's very simple

If the thing is inoperable without a subscription, the box will say that

There's no implication or ambiguity here, just loads of legal jargon they expect you to ignore

[steep girder]

You're not getting it. Not only were you not aware about this service and its implications with regards to your printer's basic functionality (lol)... we're talking about something before that: when you bought a physical printer

[lucid echo]

You're just making up a story dude, what is there to get or not get

Show me a real-life printer that completely hides the fact you need a subscription for it to work. Otherwise you're just making shit up to spin a narrative.

Otherwise, I'm out, have fun with your philosophy essays

[steep girder]

There is that exact thing you're missing not to get. It's easy to overlook but insanely important to understand: you bought physical hardware first which is CONSIDERED NOT DEFECTIVE IF IT PERFORMS CERTAIN FUNCTIONS. Those very same legislations like mentioned in the UK are defined through that exact same thing. the subscription is separate from your purchase and turns out to be a service of those exact same functionalities and features you bought as the WORKING PRINTER. The service you subscribe to is basically to keep your product from breaking in the warranty sense.

[tardy terrace]

LOUD NOISES

[lucid echo]

I too can redefine and misinterpret legal terms to fit my narrative

[steep girder]

So you can interpret this in perhaps only two ways. Either they are trespassing on property which is already yours because you bought it. They are already threatening to do so when presenting you with the service subscription 'option'. Essentially subscribe to our service or we will break your printer. An alternative way is perhaps that you allow this to happen... only it's already returnable and they already owe you a refund.

Because you bought not a printer that prints but a printer that prints as long as you pay for a service subscription.

[lucid echo]

You're so right dude, I agree with you completely

[steep girder]

Well I mean in practice I think already it's literally just ordinary box with HP printer inside

[vapid smelt]

Loud purring

[tardy terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gloop-cat-massage-short-cave-tos-bruh-gif-19444159

[steep girder]

They list all of the features. It prints in color with ink, etc, etc. But nowhere does it say that all of those features work until we brick them if you stop paying for service. If that's the case in practice, you'd already purchased a different product than what you were led to believe

If they say that there is minimall a service subscription you can separately pay for which enables exactly all of the functions they brick if your credit declines, then it's fair game.

[lucid echo]

But nowhere does it say that all of those features work until we brick them if you stop paying for service
You're either wrong or lying, because they explicitly say that. I'm looking at a product page right now
"HP+ printer: This is an HP+ printer. It requires an HP account, connection to the internet, and exclusive use of Original HP Toner Cartridges for the life of the printer. More at: hp.com/plus-faq. "
They go on to describe the "life" of the printer in their FAQ

[steep girder]

They don't even have to give you the terms or details for it. Minimally identify the service by name and you now start to have ways to say the consumer is responsible for researching the product. In this case another separate service but it's still responsibility because on box it clearly says the product as is is defined in some part through this service subscription

[lucid echo]

The thing you say they're "omitting" is blatantly on the product page several times, and is detailed in multiple FAQs. It's a shitty practice, but they're covering their tracks

There is no way in hell they straight-up don't tell you anything about it. That's just ridiculous

[vapid smelt]

https://youtube.com/shorts/LdBI9P7brsI?feature=share wanna see a cute cat video? With cute little running cat legs pov

[tardy terrace]

OHHH this is SO GOOD

omg her little noisesssss

[steep girder]

Well yeah but the real doozy is that omitting might actually be describing something else because a feature of printing and scanning unconditionally is different than a feature of printing and scanning sometimes depending on separate product or service

[lucid echo]

They tell you up front dude, a basic search will tell you this

I'm out, this was fun

[steep girder]

But service is the especially problematic one because it's something another person provides to you. So they're providing you access to your own device's functionality. A physical product naturally is hard to abuse because you buy it as well and nobody provides access to or licenses use.

[steep girder]

That chinese pov street cat video where they zip around like mach 5 and parkour over eachother is insane. It's literally first person view that finally warrants 240Hz monitor

Faster than quake pro movements. Like mirrors edge moments but sped up to the point where you can't keep track of wtf happened

[vapid smelt]

I must find it now

[steep girder]

But that 'barn cat' looks more like house cat to me because of how fast it ran... and the camera was pretty loose around just neck.

I don't think you're supposed to do that lol. If you're gonna put something around just the neck, at least make it tight enough so camera doesn't droop lol. My uncle hung a cat like that once apparently. He made an improv leash with just rope around neck. Then the cat randomly jumped over fence D:

[tardy terrace]

ok can we not please

[steep girder]

I personally never do. You're welcome. Just my uncle was a dumbass I guess who couldn't put two and two together

[split bay]

👋

[steep girder]

Have you ever seen a leash that doesn't go around paws as well lmao. Dog leashes I think actually do just hook up to collar right? Then again dog isn't cat who will immediately get tripped out and jump 10x its height over fence

But I've seen it actually. In highschool walking to meet up with friends at park. Out of nowhere like a giant golden retriever or lab thing jumps over full wooden fence my height. Maybe it was a St Bernard or whatever that breed is called. Humungous

[south stone]

So is reddit finally dying?

[steep girder]

Wasnt on leash though and friendly af of course. Big doges are usually friendly if theyre loved. I had no clue in the moment but immediately had no choice but to keep calm and greet it nicely. Lmfao

[heavy dust]

y’all ever hear a song so beautiful and perfect it make you cry

[vapid smelt]

No

[steep girder]

One of more recent ones Rammstein song on new album for the first time

[split bay]

Agreed

[steep girder]

I somehow understood it enough which was pure RNG because I know some words. Mostly I don't though

[heavy dust]

the ending of tsu by drake

is just so perfect

[steep girder]

Drake always makes me cry because the first time I ever heard him rap was as Jimmy in Degrassi together with his friend Spinner. 'Jimmy and Spinner's Sexist Rap' lmfao

[heavy dust]

the way he transitions and the melody is insane

[steep girder]

Which has many layers to it. It was back before he was Drake and a rapper IRL. His character wasn't a rapper either ever at least from what you saw in the whole show. So his character wasn't in the game yet perhaps until that very moment. Anybody who knows about the show because of Drake retroactively knows him as a kid in a wheelchair. But that was even before the season he wound up paralyzed.

Later on in the show their school actually gets shot up by a typical school shooter guy character and he gets one to the back. That's how he ended up in the wheelchair. Which is kinda fcked up now that I think about it. Apart from being a teen show with a school shooting portrayed...

[heavy dust]

what are you talking abt

[steep girder]

Drake before he was a rapper and went by that name

When I was a kid, he was just Aubrey Graham the actor who plays a main character in a show about high school n stuff lmfao. The first ever rap song I heard by him was on that show which was funny

[polar fern]

Mmm

[heavy dust]

what the hell is that

[last ruin]

Looks like a computer case

[steep girder]

But basically I saw him get in the rap game twice. Once in character as Jimmy and the second time as his actual self. Interestingly enough, both times he performs under a different name than his real one. Goes to show something I guess...

[polar fern]

Fractal Design Focus G Petrol Blue

[south stone]

So.... we have rotated motherboards, weird gpu placements, rotated power supplies...

When is the FRONT of the case rotate 90 degrees to the right and have side glass panel + front panel on the same side?

[polar fern]

They have that.

[south stone]

which case? 😮

[polar fern]

Sec

[steep girder]

I don't care which way PSU rotates tbh. Just make it not in a doggone shroud for once

[south stone]

doggone?

[steep girder]

Yes the christian euphemism version

Or gosh darn

[lucid echo]

You mean remove the thing that stops a PSU from killing people?

[stray apex]

I think they mean the case

[lucid echo]

Oh the case PSU shroud, got it

[polar fern]

@south stone

[lean shard]

Hi guys - first time poster. I was wondering if anyone here knew of a way to "ping" LTT management or otherwise bring attention to a story they've covered before but has come back to rear its ugly head once again. Apologies if this is the wrong channel or forum to be asking this.

[polar fern]

Forum or email

[vapid smelt]

no you will get muted or banned if you ping them in here

[south stone]

Oh, but I mean... the other way. XD

[polar fern]

Other way?

[patent dagger]

So I'm building a new rig and want to sell my old stuff but r/hws is still blacked out due to the BS happening at Reddit. They supposedly have a discord, does anyone know how to find that / if it still exists?

[polar fern]

EBay & forget Reddit

[stray apex]

bruh
I RMA'd my 4070 because one fan was clicking
Paid for shipping and everything
two weeks later I get the GPU back
it's the exact same card
I don't think they even did anything to it
the exact same fan still clicks

[polar fern]

Oops

[steep girder]

Well here's the thing: the PSU doesn't kill people (nuh-uh). Shroud kills people (zip-zap) with PSU.

[patent dagger]

in my time shopping for hardware r/hws was always a better experience than ebay

[steep girder]

I mean PSU can always blow up on its own or overheat due to user error or some other factors. But the thing with shroud in most regular mid towers and such is that it's literally pointless. All it can do is guaranteed add heat and if not blow up house still cause more wear to PSU over time

[lean shard]

ya I wasn't literally going to do so, hence the quotes. Just a figure of speech. It's regarding the company Dough (formerly Eve) that I'm sure you've heard of. They're selling (yet another) new product that's nowhere near ready. Still huge numbers of backlogged orders for older products. And the latest news is their discord server was unceremoniously deleted - no mention why, but I suspect it's for PR related reasons.

But thank you for pointing me in the right direction.

[heavy dust]

it looks ugly without a shroud

[steep girder]

Also it makes just plugging in modular cables a rageful experience right away. Literally how do you do next sata port beside the first and only one i plugged in. I barely managed to plug in second sata behind it for bd/dvd/cd internal reader writer i always wanted

In the end i did it basically blind and with index + middle finger but nail side. Not sure if i pushed it in all the way either

[steep girder]

Honestly it's a black sleak box just like shroud and I'm not sure how it would take away from the overall look. On my build for sure

[patent dagger]

Holy shit found it

[steep girder]

There's the cable management thing because shroud lets you have mounting plate for atx board to be a compartment of its own

But your question of whether or not to hide everything from mainboard (which does allow cable routing 'behind' the entire thing) is loaded

Because you're implying that you also have hdd bay shrouded

At least justify to me how hdd bay is any less ugly than PSU being visible lol. HDD to be honest to this day is one of the few things that doesn't come with RGB led in any color other than that classic PCB green. Literally always green + metallic color scheme always. You can always diy rgb on hard drive but you can't hide its ugly bare ass

[south stone]

Imean chances of psu blowing up unless generic with a high end card or gigabyte, are really low.

[steep girder]

Well on mine I got a PSU which fits into shroud but turns out fan hole is only for the next shorter size PSUs

So like 1/3 of my intake I think it is covered up. The shroud either way traps heat. One hope is that somehow it actually acts as heatsink because it's metal. Not sure if there's proper contact for that though.

The other thing is that it implicates more than PSU because HDD is also shrouded beside it. It's basically two compartments beside eachother which look like they keep all of their heat at the bottom of case. So HDDs and PSU only get less air circulation. I think I put a second intake fan at front which at least pulls air to drives

[velvet marsh]

don't forget your insulation pads, so your psu doesn't short

[steep girder]

Case didnt come with it though. It only came with one fan installed and shrouds lol. So no air for hdds I guess lmfao. Just radiating psu near it :P

[steep girder]

Honestly isn't your ground supposed to be the third prong on wall socket?

[velvet marsh]

It's a joke, they're vibration pads

[steep girder]

Right those are important. HDD bay is necessary for hard drives only specifically because it's only place which out of the box can have anti vibration

It's just rubber dampeners around mounting screw holes to that slotin thing

Drive is screwed in and rests only on bottom of that carriage is good design

But again back in my days it was same hdd bay but not shrouded. Same with PSU

[fallow lake]

I just realized

ROG is a pun on the country Asus is based in

[steep girder]

But one way or another, more heat for PSU and HDD is automatically worse for both. It's not theoretical either: HDD bearings literally perform worse the hotter they are. The bearing always wears by design lol. It's just a fact of life. Eventually all bearings die. If they aren't cooled properly, they wear quicker than they would have under lower temps

PSU say what you will about it dying but hotter temps in practice mean less efficiency. I think resistance goes up which means it radiates even more heat tbh because of that. So you actually heat PSU up with hotter temps lol. And it uses more power

But tl;dr the hdd bay is closed off with option to install your own intake before which there is literally 0 airflow to hdds. Only place you can put them

[lucid echo]

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-temperature-does-it-matter/

[steep girder]

And even that one fan you can maximum decide intake or exhaust I guess. One or the other. There is no other possible place for air to go lol. So mine is set to intake always at 100% speed so maybe I create enough positive pressure that it jets out through tiny places somewhere else lol

As for removing both shrouds, you can't. At least not intended to by any easy method. They are riveted in. The hdd bay might be held by shroud. So not only do I have to un-nailgun or cut the shroud out. Then I have to reattach the bay to somewhere else lmfao

The psu shroud roof is shared with hdd bay's. So removing psu top cover means automatically reattach hdd bay as well lmfao.

I have a sata ssd dangling in psu box right in front of modular cable connectors because one sata power connector on that single cable is there and I can reach a data cable

[old crypt]

https://twitter.com/CCNCartoonNews/status/1669335306221522944?t=kKxtebKfPrsMMnlhtW4Ntg&s=19

[steep girder]

Literally using one sata power rail 4 drives just because I can't get to the other 3 sata plugs and connect another cable lmfao

It seems to work though because it's 3 ssd and 1 hdd. Actually my bad 2 ssd and 1 hdd. 3 drives total using sata power.

[round trellis]

why is nvidia still winning with their overpriced gpus

[steep girder]

Plus I don't care about the dangling ssd too much really. It's a second boot with linux on it for recovery reasons. The HDD I do care about though. I ocassionally clone it to new drive and store old one though as backup. It's about time for another one and this time I was thinking clone to 2tb ssd but not all of it. Just music, old docs/pictures and movies. Could fit on 1tb maybe

[round trellis]

well most modern games do require ssd like starfield

[steep girder]

Adventure time never sat well with me for some reason. Do you believe that theory where it's actually real Earth in the future. Then some nuclear accident happened or whatever. Everyone mutated from radiation

[steep girder]

I have a different ssd for that

[round trellis]

nice

[manic torrent]

uhhhhhh

I just have two m.2 SSDs. I'm slightly annoyed I got a 2tb game ssd before the prices nosedived - would have got a 4.

[velvet marsh]

I got 1 tb ssds when they were $200ea

[timid meadow]

Is the youtube ui slightly animated since they switched a while back? Its like theres a moving wavy gradient in the lower text boxes on darkmode desktop. I know its been a long week but im only seeing it on youtube, i really dont think its my screen

[manic torrent]

I have a 1tb main drive. I can't even remember how much it was though

[manic torrent]

I don't see anything

[timid meadow]

Not setup for proper screen record. But theres like waves

Its only on youtube and only in those regions of the page

Ignore the obvious screen door effect from camera filming screen. Can see it to the left of like button

[mild jacinth]

why are u not using screen capture software

[manic torrent]

yeah I see what you mean - but also your colours are fucked

[timid meadow]

I just said i dont have any installed rn

[mild jacinth]

we can see your face i think

sharex

[manic torrent]

my oled shows all flat colours

[timid meadow]

My colors are fine. Setup to look good in my environment, even if not exactly color accurate

Its not an oled, its a uled

[mild jacinth]

no clue if mine is or not

[timid meadow]

But thats not the edge of the screen. Its pulsing from the video. So i know its not my edge lighting

[mild jacinth]

also why am i waking up im supposed to be getting tired

[tribal wyvern]

my family is forcing me to go on vacation, any coping tips you have? I'm bad at dealing w change

[manic torrent]

drugs

[timid meadow]

Definitely a youtube thing that i guess i just never saw? It stops when vid reaches endcard and restarts when i hit play again. Youtube whyyy it bugs my brain so much now that i see it

[tribal wyvern]

I can't do that

[mild jacinth]

idk distract yourself with yt

[fallen cedar]

correct answer

[mild jacinth]

or music

[polar fern]

Heyy! Linus had the wood mouse I shared in here!

[mild jacinth]

since your on vacation talk to ppl even if your shy your most likely never gonna see each other again so make the most of it

[polar fern]

You’re*

[steep girder]

Everytime you manually select a video out of playlist, you have to reset the loop mode to anything other than default 'no loop'

[mild jacinth]

ok english teacher

[steep girder]

It always sets back to basically autoplay after playlist finishes lol

[tribal wyvern]

no thanks

[timid meadow]

Read the context please. Posted a vid. Nothing to do with playlists

[tribal wyvern]

we are going somewhere quiet but I still dislike change and I'm scared I'll ruin it for my family

because they want to go places but I just want to stay at home

[mild jacinth]

fair enough just a suggestion its kinda like the internet where u can be as cringe as u want but no one will know u irl

[polar fern]

You can’t be as cringe as you want. There’s rules.

[mild jacinth]

well ye but

i can do meows uwu >w< purrs

[tribal wyvern]

thankfully I only have to survive 4 days

[mild jacinth]

and it will have no effect on my personal life

[inland oracle]

does anyone else get a thing where folders randomly load slow? they can load instantly 100 times and then they take 5 mins to load / sort for no reason

[tribal wyvern]

even though vacations with other people are not enjoyable

[inland oracle]

i have a fast SSD

[steep girder]

I stopped using HDD for all games. Apart from the playing, there's also the issue of downloading them in the first place. New games it got to the point where my download is faster than the disk can write back. So the download zips on through for a bit. Then it drops to 0 and disk begins to scrape like it never did before. I think it's still not the worst tbh because it caches download to ssd or maybe just ram.

[mild jacinth]

ssd issus ig

hdds still exist amazing

[timid meadow]

Hdds still have plenty of use

[steep girder]

In the end there shouldn't really be a difference maybe because the fastest you can write to disk is its speed.

[inland oracle]

i have a clips / captures folder and it typically loads and sorts instantly and then randomly takes 5 mins to do it

[manic torrent]

I stopped using hard drive because of the seeking noise 😄

[manic torrent]

Just windows things

[fallen cedar]

same

[timid meadow]

My server roaring to life during a Parity check or something scares the shit out of my wife

[fallen cedar]

certified windows moment

[steep girder]

Long term storage with no need for immediate and quick access. Or too much parallel use. Mostly I play my music off of it which is completely fine. Again, I really have no other use for it because I stopped using it as part of game library. Movies are also on it and old documents etc.

[tribal wyvern]

I tend to not care about social rules because I don't understand them

[steep girder]

HDD is extremely useful still for archiving because HDD can't really go ZAP one day out of nowhere and all files are gone lol

[tribal wyvern]

literally all of my social abilities which are severely lacking are not natural and are learned via years of imitation

[timid meadow]

I still run games off hdds just because their cheap, doesnt make as much of a difference as people act like it does in alot of games, especially older titles

[steep girder]

SSD failing can be way scarier, instantaneous and leave you with 0 recoverable data

[slim creek]

does not using hardware acceleration on discord not use the gpu?

[manic torrent]

I mean, it absolutely can and will, but eh

[steep girder]

HDD the controller can fry, there can be mechanical failure, but in the end, there's some way to get most of your data off usually.

[tribal wyvern]

online i deal fine because I can be as direct as possible, there is no hidden subcontextual cues

[low rain]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yP3KyK this good?

Mainly js for school like coding and shi but sometimes gaming

[steep girder]

Controller can do that. But again, your data is still there. Tbh controller isn't even worst case scenario because all you have to do is replace it. Maybe even possible diy from a donor no?

[manic torrent]

at large risk/cost - honestly if your data is on a single device, it's as good as deleted.

[steep girder]

I mean if it's as simple as replacing chip then what the heck. Mechanical failure is probably the worst case type scenarios but again: there's probably a very tiny portion of those cases where any serious amount data loss happens

[manic torrent]

lol no

also all of those options are wayyyyy more expensive than redundancy

[steep girder]

Well that's the whole point. The HDD is physically harder to wipe data off of. At least in terms of failures and breakage. SSD just the failures can insta-wipe it. It's just a charge in a cell. HDD is more physical position on magnetic surface.

[steep girder]

I mean I guess magnet to HDD is pretty nuclear

[manic torrent]

HDDs can physically fail in a bunch of ways.

[steep girder]

Honestly I still never exactly got an idea of how strong a magnet has to be and how close to wipe an hdd at least a serious portion of it

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/hard-disk-wash-washed-water-gif-14539839

[manic torrent]

I mean, don't get me wrong, spinning rust is great for archival, but again, if you have it on a single device it's as good as deleted

[steep girder]

Well yeah but again the physical failures a lot of them doesn't mean data is erased. The physical failure just means you can't read or write. The data is still perfectly fine on platters.

[graceful burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/hard-drive-break-data-destruction-hammer-hard-drive-hammer-drive-hammer-data-gif-17449816

[steep girder]

But yeah I guess it's immediately expensive and you have to hire like forensic or data recovery people to open it up and rescue data. I heard they use sealed rooms with nice dust filtration because hdd platter lol. So do body shops when they paint. No dust allowed

[manic torrent]

IN THEORY. in practise it's EXTREMELY expensive

[manic torrent]

lol, body shop != hard drive rated dust

[slim creek]

do people here hate prebuilt pcs?

[vapid smelt]

yes

[steep girder]

That drive maybe could still get all of its data read off at least once hopefully for a period of time. But in terms of any reliable use at all, it was as good as broken as soon as it was opened.

[slim creek]

your house is a prebuilt

[mint yacht]

Entirely depends on the parts they use and how much it costs

[manic torrent]

hate is a silly word for it, but as a rule they are more expensive and worse

[vapid smelt]

you said PCs not house

[slim creek]

I got mine during a gpu shortage at a great price

[manic torrent]

... which is why I had to fix the ensuit door.

[keen kernel]

careful peoples heads might explode with that information

[steep girder]

If you open and seal it back, dust already got in. Dust means something will now scratch disks. Scratches lead to more sand in drive. It snowball effects into more and more scratches and bad sectors lol

[manic torrent]

congratulations?

[graceful burrow]

[vapid smelt]

and my great grand dad made his own house like a true enthusiast

[manic torrent]

if you open a hard drive... it's dead. done.

[slim creek]

👍

[steep girder]

Lmfao that's kinda true. In NA most people live in prebuilt. Tbh a lot of times it's prebuilt subdivision as a whole.

[keen kernel]

like a data centre

[steep girder]

Always somebody else has to build it and the person living in it has to buy prebuild.

[gleaming harbor]

that data is no more

[steep girder]

In south Russia where half of my family is from, most people build their own house when it's time to get first residence to own

[keen kernel]

thats actually really cool

[slim creek]

in russia's economy today you could get houses for dirt cheap probably or did the value go up

[steep girder]

It's just a cultural thing in 'Donski Kossaks'. People just build houses lol. I had an uncle who literally the entire time I knew him up until he died was renovating house. He literally was building every day I never saw him do anything else

[keen kernel]

im guessing it would also be like a pride thing as well

[steep girder]

AM radio to that one 'mayak' station which was news, cigarette, coffee and concrete lol

It was more of like a hobby I guess. I mean he didn't have to do anything else. He was already on pension I think and that half of house and yard was his. Pension covered cigarettes coffee and concrete I guess lol

But still I mean people always knew where to get supplies much cheaper for sure than here in NA. Sand piles I saw in front of every yard. Cement and bricks. Boards idk but I think they just chopped and cut themselves. Then that hallmark green coat of paint lol. Brick walls were painted with 'pabelca' which means literally whiteout-ca. It was kind of like chalk and really white.

I guess it was good enough to protect from weather plus it being white is huge bonus because it can get hot asfk in Rostov area. Central AC is usually not a thing. Like fans indoors and if you really need it window ac. All that's ever needed. At night crack the window because it cools down. In the day, close it

[manic torrent]

uhhh

[keen kernel]

lucky being able to crack a window at night i live in aus so we got mozzies everywhere

[manic torrent]

There's a new invention, you may have heard of it, it's called flyscreens.

[steep girder]

Well yeah but it's also insanely cheaper I think. Plus you can get all materials on the low and you likely already know how to build lol. A lot of jobs there are road work, factory and... other construction besides road.

[keen kernel]

flyscreens arnt perfect

they get damaged with the heat alot of the time

especiallly with the reflection of the sun off the glass

[steep girder]

Flyscreens are I'd call a must-have not a nice to have feature before release build. Lots of insects. Especially flies. Outdoor dinner table I remember you sit down and all 1009 flies sit down to eat with you. You kind of just get used to it lmfao

[manic torrent]

what? wat?

[steep girder]

But the real hack is tinfoil. Tinfoil reflects sunlight and pretty much stops it from heating up through window entirely. I remember I tinfoiled a window here and half room literally became colder in the summers.

[manic torrent]

flyscreens go on the INSIDE, not the outside.

[keen kernel]

we have them on the outside

[graceful burrow]

Not in the usa
If I'm looking through the window from inside the building it's glass then screen

[keen kernel]

and that still wouldnt fix the issue of them getting hot and warping

[steep girder]

Does it matter? I mean if window opens inwards, they have to be on outside lol

[manic torrent]

wtf do you live, because I have not seen that be a problem to the point of causing it not to work

[steep girder]

If window opens out, then screen must be on inside.

[normal prawn]

Hi guys, I'm into the world of FPV drone flying and I want to record footage at 4k60(or better) but there doesn't seem to be a camera of which the board that actually records and the camera sensor are separated. Do you know a RPi Pico kinda solution that can connect to a 4k60 Sony camera sensor that is way lighter than a gopro 10 bones which can be used on a drone?

[manic torrent]

what if windows open sideways

[keen kernel]

its over time they get hot and warp to the point of becoming brittle

[steep girder]

But warping is a non-issue. Forget about it. YOu have great uncle who literally does nothing but fix house every day from dusk till dawn lol

[graceful burrow]

I don't think a pico could begin to handle the output of a 4k60 camera kek

[normal prawn]

Anything else with that footprint?

[manic torrent]

over what, 30+ years?

[keen kernel]

5-6

[native crag]

Learn to bask in the heat

[steep girder]

Heat is worth addressing for sure sometimes but again: in Rostov area they do without central AC just fine like 35C sometimes. I think it can get to 40C on occasion. Wouldn't be surprised.

[manic torrent]

what the shit is wrong with your house.

[steep girder]

But entire summers are for sure 20+ by mid day.

[manic torrent]

do you live in coober pedy above ground or some shit

[steep girder]

So tinfoil, indoor fans and max 1 window ac it seems

[broken folio]

Similar in the UK.

[steep girder]

But tinfoil I'm telling you: could literally solve entire problem if you have insulation.

[broken folio]

Though even 1 window AC is very rare domestically.

[native crag]

Get a mini-split if you don't have central AC

[graceful burrow]

I have window ac because the sun just bakes my room
It can be 80f outside and 110 in the room
It's horrible

[native crag]

Why so hot? You dumping heat from the PC in that room?

[keen kernel]

are your walls painted black or something

[steep girder]

Well tbh heat isn't the problem. It's the heatING come winter time. 30+ C continental hot summers means -30+ C continental cold af winters

[manic torrent]

.... because thermodynamics

[steep girder]

But now you gotta produce heat yourself as opposed to simply block it from going in

[broken folio]

Thankfully the UK doesn't get below -5C most winters, some occasions it will get to around -10C and exceptional years maybe slightly lower, especially in the highlands o scotland

[native crag]

RIght. So, where is that energy coming from that's heating the room faster than you can pump out?

[graceful burrow]

Sun is baking directly on a dark roof and my walls
Not the best insulation
Gotta have an ac or get heat stroke

[steep girder]

Because you are cooling pc

[graceful burrow]

No trees or shade
Sun hits it for 70% of the day directly

[native crag]

I see, so it's just poor insulation

[steep girder]

You never truly cool anything. You can't destroy heat or any energy. Only rearrange it.

[keen kernel]

have you tried black out curtains

[graceful burrow]

Buddy the heat isn't coming through the windows that wouldn't help at all

[native crag]

"Cool" is a vacuum of energy

A good way to reduce the heat-load is radiant barriers

[keen kernel]

okay sorry

[native crag]

https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/radiant-barriers

[manic torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-solar-flare-sun-gif-11108552

[native crag]

The day star burns

[broken folio]

Aldonist has built a fusion reactor? sweet 😉

[native crag]

https://tenor.com/view/soundgarden-chris-cornell-chris-cornell-gif-8650261

[steep girder]

Fussion :P

Tbh half fission half fusion is pretty accurate usually lol

[broken folio]

The s key on this keyboard is a pain sometimes.

[keen kernel]

i thought the sun was just fission

[native crag]

No, the sun is fusion

It will fuse all elements up to iron; it's nuclear ash. All other elements past that only form when a star goes supernova; basically elemental shrapnel

[keen kernel]

oh ok

thanks for clarifying that before i make and idiot of myself

[native crag]

A star is in ballance against shedding energy from fusion while fighting against gravity. Once the fuel runs out, gravity wins and the star collapses. The inrush is so extreme that the compressive forces heats up the remaining and thus a detonation occurs

[keen kernel]

i thought it was fission because the sun will expand once its out of fuel

[steep girder]

Fusion nuclear energy and weapons is fusion as in at first then followed by fission. You get the energy for whatever still out of nuclear fission in the end. Fusion I don't think we're developing tech that uses anything from it at all. Fusion reactions do usually result in a different decay chain or whatever. It's unique and also way more net energy. You basically fuse atoms or whichever isotopes together by force which more often than not results in a really radioactive nucleus lol. Those tend to want to immediately decay again.

[broken folio]

Fusion Reactors are currently at the very experimental stage. The magnets iirc burn out very quickly on current models.

[native crag]

The star expands because it loses mass. e=mc2

[keen kernel]

oh ok

i can wrap my head around reactors but the sun is a bit confusing for me

[steep girder]

But again, it's still way different because of things like the fusion can be two isotopes of helium and tritium or some shite. Tritium is next heavier water hydrogen after deuterium. Two extra neutrons not one. But that's what you're using as fuel I guess. The trick is to heat it up into a mechaplasma so hot and contain it. Then you somehow use the energy it produces by powering the magnetic fields or whatever is holding that plasma pressurized to continue fusing. When you've sustained that indefinitely and there is extra power left over for output, you dun got yourself fusion energy son.

[native crag]

No, it's because the plasma is very unstable. It's super hot, yet difficult to control without it touching the walls in a near vacuum. Once it does, it dumps heat into the walls and thus is quenched.

It's been said that keeping fusion going is like keeping a match lit in a catagory 5 hurricane

[broken folio]

Ah, I knew there was something related to burning or sustaining the reaction, just not exactly what. It is late and my memory is poor at the best of times anyway.

[keen kernel]

okay this is probably a very stupid suggestion but why wouldn't they just keep the reaction in a vacuum as we have the technology to create a vacuum

[steep girder]

The sun is a fusion reactor but way deep inside. It's simple: stars like even the sun are already so massive that their own gravity produces a force strong enough to overpower all electromagnetic interactions on the outside with the electron shells (where chemical reactions occur) and force them close enough to smash two nuclei of atoms together

[native crag]

It's the mass. Need to keep the plasma contained in the field, and held tightly to maintain the reaction

[meager furnace]

How much do yall think I could get for an xbox series s?
I have everything but the box

[broken folio]

There are no stupid questions if you don't know something as you'll learn something probably either way.

[steep girder]

Until they touch. But it's weird because I remember the main thing is to overcome the electronegativity. Literally all 'solid' touching you get when your hand is stopped by wooden table and such is electromagnetic force

[native crag]

The short version of fusion energy is this. Using magnets because we don't have a gravity well that we can control

[keen kernel]

so pretty much the gravity works as a shell and contains the reaction

[broken folio]

check sold items on eBay and take roughly 15% off and you'll get an idea of what they go for

[meager furnace]

Yeah, thats what im doing now just wanted to get other opinions thanks

[keen kernel]

so in theory the problem could be solved by just doing everything on a gigantic scale similar to the sun

[steep girder]

Gravity is a fundamental force which exists between two particles with masses. Here it makes more sense to visualize everything as particles because the mass stays with it...

[broken folio]

They're what 300 new? so probably 225-250 i guess, depending upon how much someone values the box.

[keen kernel]

oh ok

[native crag]

So fusion has been done. The issue is net gain (Q factor). It needs to produce more energy than consumed, and be ecconomically viable

[meager furnace]

Like 200 the box makes a difference for wtv reason 💀

[broken folio]

hydrogen production has similar problems really

[wise plover]

i hate fedex

they broke my pc case on monday

[vapid smelt]

i hate people named chris

[broken folio]

That sucks

[wise plover]

[keen kernel]

so its an issue with efficency

[wise plover]

and its gonna take another week for them to send a new case

[west sentinel]

Everybody hates Chris

[steep girder]

Now where this mass comes from is weird because apparently like 98.something % of nuclei's masses (the masses protons and neutrons "have") comes from the just the strong force binding energy or something.

Basically the force carrier also particles called 'gluons' are the particles which carry the strong force just like photons carry the electromagnetic force. This strong force is what binds the quarks together which compose the protons and neutrons

[native crag]

Hydrogen production is easy, it just takes a lot of energy to separate, cryogenically store, and transport. It's very inefficient

[wise plover]

[broken folio]

That was my point, the energy cost and efficiency rather than the rest.

[steep girder]

But also the strong force has two distinct terms and the second one is responsible for holding the protons and neutrons themselves together in nucleus lol.

But the confinement term I think it's called which holds together the quarks themselves within proton and neutron is where most of the mass comes from.

[native crag]

Higgs field

[keen kernel]

so most of the mass in the atom which is tiny comes from and even tinier part of the atom

[native crag]

Anyways, there's many unresolved issues in physics. Who knows how deep that rabbit hole goes. Will probably take advanced AI to crack those mysteries

[polar fern]

Or just people getting research funding.

[steep girder]

Well before that you can ask is there a rabbit hole at all? Or did we definitively observe that there is nothing else for sure to physics? Because if so, that would mean our own physics is proven to be finite. Don't worry about space time expanding from a start forever. That's still finite irl.

[native crag]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[steep girder]

But so far they haven't disproven but actually are more sure that from the looks of it, our physics is non-local

[native crag]

I've learned enough to know that the more I know, the more I don't know

[polar fern]

We will never be able to solve all the mysteries, as we are limited in our ability to perceive

[steep girder]

A lot of people don't even know that. And actually they are indeed still upgrading the ol LHC in Geneva and smashing things at higher and higher energies. What they're observing is literally new physics laws.

[keen kernel]

technically wouldnt it be impossible for our physics to be finite in atleast our current understanding

[polar fern]

Turn the LHC to 11

[native crag]

That's the billion dollar question. No one can say for sure

[steep girder]

Our own big bang physics can be finite or not. I mean I guess you should never stop seeing new stuff just after the Big Bang as you get closer to it. I'm no expert on that but the whole problem is it's a singularity

[native crag]

Conformal cyclic cosmology. Look that up. It's elegant, but not proven

[polar fern]

👀

[keen kernel]

from a psycological point that is a scary concept

[native crag]

lol, I agree. The universe a giant fractal of sorts shivers

[steep girder]

Idk but pretty sure any of that cyclical stuff was disproven. If you're talking about a big crunch ending back into big bang and then it happens over and over again

[tribal wyvern]

TFW you can either buy a single deka fumo or an entire PC 😰

[polar fern]

A what?

[tribal wyvern]

deka fumo

[native crag]

No no. Not a big crunch

[tribal wyvern]

$800-1000 giant plushie

[polar fern]

… words

[keen kernel]

i guess however we have proven things exist that were previously thought to be disproven so can we really know anything

[steep girder]

What about just in general consider why is it that something can have no end or go on forever. Could it be because you have a finite beginning?

[polar fern]

Windows 11 vs windows 10 be like

[tribal wyvern]

and before you ask, yes i am planning to get one

[polar fern]

One what?!

[keen kernel]

but by thinking like that couldn't it also be that we have an infinite beginning and that everything is infinite

[tribal wyvern]

$800-1000 touhou plushie

[polar fern]

Because I know exactly what that is

[native crag]

You're asking a deep question that no one has the answer to. Here, noodle on this concept.

What came before nothing? Nothing = 0. Something = 1. Something came from nothing. How did that 0 flip to a 1? Mathmatically, what starts as 0 remains at 0.

🤯

[tribal wyvern]

I posted in #off-topic @polar fern

[polar fern]

Ah.

Why?

[steep girder]

Well closer and closer toward the big bang yielding new physical behaviors or 'laws' is quite different from time and space never ending in the other direction. Looks like some grandly opposing two sides of physics to be hoest lol.

[keen kernel]

but from a mathmatical point in theory couldnt something be a 0 or and a 1 because of infinite points of view

[tribal wyvern]

why what

[polar fern]

…

[native crag]

0.0000000000000000001, is still "something"

[keen kernel]

that was what i was trying to get at

[manic torrent]

0 doesn't exist.

[keen hedge]

Can someone help in #1027757333117415424

[polar fern]

Why we talking hypothetical physics stuff in a tech discord

[native crag]

Yeah, I have no answer for you how 0 gained "something"

[keen hedge]

Just posted

[tribal wyvern]

if your asking why i would spend $1000 on a plushie, its because I am very invested in my limited special interests

[keen hedge]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1119077510047613020 help pls

[tribal wyvern]

its the same reason if I had the money why I would spend on a audiophile setup

[keen kernel]

because we have accepted infinite existing is certain cituations as a easy answer for us to understand

[native crag]

Post anything you want. I'm not holding back

[polar fern]

Hand made?

[keen kernel]

maybe we are overthinking things

[tribal wyvern]

they are not hand made, they are just made in very limited quantities and only made once for a preorder and never again usually, and they are also 70 cm or 27 inches

[keen kernel]

because what have we truely provenen and can not be disproven

[polar fern]

Huh

Man if I had $1000 I’d buy some new proper socks & a new winter jacket

[native crag]

Socks are cheap, don't need to spend a grand on them

[tribal wyvern]

when I get a job on my first paycheck I am treating myself to a deka fumo

[polar fern]

Get a job? You’re spending money without an income?

[keen kernel]

take atoms and quarks as a example for 160 years we believed that atoms were the smallest thing in existence then quarks were proven to exist

[tribal wyvern]

I have government money rn but I applied for one recently

or well, my mom did I have minor disabilities

[polar fern]

I’m on SSI. My purchases must be limited

[native crag]

lol, I'm working, and my purchases are limited. Story of my life lol

[tribal wyvern]

i live w my family so I mostly save money and also buy things relating to my special interests

[steep girder]

Yes but today some things are proven beyond reasonable doubt to hold true while we still haven't even found a mathematical solution for it. It's a model at that point. When we solve these things, it's ultimately added as a part of the same standard model we'd been using since pretty much the beginning. We still haven't found any other model which comes even close to explaining some of the most basic crap in physics. On the other hand, it still continues to work from the looks of it

[tribal wyvern]

i mean I will live alone eventually and so I will not have to spend any money on anyone else

[native crag]

Oh, I'm not judging

[tribal wyvern]

I have no desire to start a family

[steep girder]

Those standard model deniers who claim it's arbitrary in some way on purpose in order to control our way of thinking somehow by the luminati need to first find a single little piece of and prove that it's baseless conjecture consisting of some expressions of nil scientific significance. So far I'm pretty sure there are exactly none.

[keen kernel]

okay so our current plan is to hope we are correct

because at a singlar point we are hopeless at agreeing on anything

[polar fern]

Yeah well try living on $6,000 a year with rent, utilities & miscellaneous expenses, Plus the purchases are actually limited to what I’m allowed to buy.

[wary summit]

or, import one from china for 80-100 bucks

[tribal wyvern]

I dont support bootleg

[native crag]

Those claw machines are a scam. Never get a plushie from one

[wary summit]

that's not bootlegging

[tribal wyvern]

I bought my two fumo plushies from Japan online

[steep girder]

But also it would then be helpful if it turns out that luminati truly is behind most of it and we're duped into thinking that more things are observable than not (some simpler explanation exists)... to find an alternative model that even looks like it might work. Flat earthers for instance, apart from that usual error (probably due to closed communities and echo chambering) they make by answering "how do you then explain gravity" with "the flat earth is always rising at a constant rate"...

[wary summit]

thats direct from source

[tribal wyvern]

they are smaller, so its $60 each

[wary summit]

why does everyone think its botleggin?

[tribal wyvern]

They are not made in large quantity

If they only sell 100, they only make 100

[steep girder]

I mean if they adjust their answer to "it's constantly accelerating for some reason at a consistent rate"... if only. Then they wouldn't be mathematically wrong. But that's a perfect example of nil scientific basis.

[wary summit]

ok, look if its from like etsy or smth

[tribal wyvern]

I am not judging you im just saying in my circumstance i dont have to worry about this yet

[manic torrent]

yeah wow ok.

[keen kernel]

lol so as a species we are constantly looking for a easier answer for us to comprehend and let us sleep at night

[steep girder]

What needs more proof? That masses attract to eachother just the way we observe them? Or that there is some additional thing happening where the earth is constantly accelerating upwards to explain gravity

[manic torrent]

except that observing the earth is round is fucking trivial and was done thousands of years ago

[steep girder]

Which would imply there's some real life up direction. And things can fall down? The Newton's realization was the very thing which minimized it and so far we haven't observed any proof of behaviors in physics which behave flatly or indicate some upward direction

[native crag]

Gravity is the warping of the fabric of spacetime.
Fun fact: when you orbit a planet, you're actually falling all the way around it

[manic torrent]

That sure is a lot of words for 'I don't understand physics'

[tribal wyvern]

There is a 3-5 month wait between you preordering it and getting it

[native crag]

Orbital mechanics is quite complicated

[keen kernel]

i dont understand why people call spacetime a fabric when it seems to behave more like a liquid

[tribal wyvern]

Its one small company that makes every touhou plush to order

[keen kernel]

from my understanding

[native crag]

"fabric" is more of a mathmatical abstraction to define this idea

[steep girder]

What does a liquid behave like?

[manic torrent]

because your understanding is poor

[keen kernel]

i mean that spacetime seems to behave more like a liquid than a fabric from my understanding

[steep girder]

Physics is non-local

[keen kernel]

well thats why im asking a question to understand it

[keen kernel]

ok

[steep girder]

Well yeah it looks like at one point things are 'foaming' or 'bubbling' once you look deep enough. In reality it's things like popping in and out of existence.

[native crag]

Fabric is often represented on X.Y. But becuase it's 3D, it's happening on X,Y,Z

[keen kernel]

is existence defined in this sense of what we can see and prove is there

[native crag]

Quantum foam is different concept all togeather

[steep girder]

Specifically the opposite kind of. Things either exist in physics or they don't regardless of whether or not we have observed them or even have a possible way allowing observation. Ever.

[keen kernel]

okay

[steep girder]

That's kind of the paradox right there. But it's not a paradox actually. It only makes sense. When you say two completely separate parallel physics. Like ours and some other big bang Universe. How could that even make sense? What you're expressing is some additional law of our physics which separates something we have into two. In some way

[wispy marsh]

Hello public chat

[timid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-gif-25645320

[keen kernel]

okay so the probelm is that my understnading is broken

[wispy marsh]

We have thirteen LTT staff online right now. That's 10% of the company, I wonder what warrants such a gathering.

[steep girder]

But so far, for instance time-space is enough. If you can never access a separate region of time-space from where you are, you have a physics completely separated from this one. It kind of makes sense because you're still seeing everything come from a point back in time where everything started

[timid meadow]

And they arent like random staff either. Super serious team aha

[keen kernel]

so this is because of the limits of light speed correct?

[wispy marsh]

They're all the face of LMG

I'm surprised. Are they performing a Pionteer Potato-worshipping ritual?

[timid meadow]

I was gunna say its gotta be like a private meeting or something but if it were that they wouldnt show as online, you can just set your status as off

[wispy marsh]

Yeah

[full fossil]

Should I trade my 3080 ftw ultra for a 3090 zotac. Fyi, this is free

[timid meadow]

Maybe their fuckin with us. Watching us squirm kek

[wispy marsh]

Let's start the ritual

Boil it, mash it, stick it in a stew
Boil it, mash it, stick it in a stew

[steep girder]

Not sure tbh. You'd have to ask an astrophysicist or something lmfao.

[gilded quest]

for $0? sure

[full fossil]

Si

[native crag]

What's the catch?

[wispy marsh]

Yes and no

[gilded quest]

as long as its legit

[full fossil]

There is no catch

[gilded quest]

how does one make this trade

[native crag]

sus

[wispy marsh]

Zotac should have five years of warranty. EVGA's warranty and support might be a little harder to get due to their waning GPU division

[native crag]

Hopefully there's nothing wrong with that 3090 card

Is that warranty transferable?

[keen kernel]

okay so is the point in time where everything originated a singularity

[full fossil]

Literally no catch, my friend is extremely new to pc gaming happen to get a 3090 pc. I asked him if i could trade his 3090 for this 3080 and he said sum sure if you need it more

I was like okay bet lol

[native crag]

Oh man, that's kinda low

[gilded quest]

bruh

[native crag]

I wouldn't take advantage of someone like that

[full fossil]

He said he doesnt need the 3090 because hes only playing minecraft and roblox

[wispy marsh]

Is your friendship only worth that $1000?

[native crag]

Well, if both of you agree, and he knows he's getting the lesser of the deal, who am I to judge.

But what are you going to say if he wants to play a new game that really could use that 3090. Maybe he might want to raytrace the heck out of Minecraft

[full fossil]

Like im being fr he even said to me I feel like im not gonna use this card to its fullest. Like I told him the magnitude of the card he has. He fully knows

[wispy marsh]

Top your side up with money

[full fossil]

How good this card is

[gilded quest]

yeah

[wispy marsh]

Blood and money don't mix well

[manic torrent]

they really do though

[native crag]

Badly

[steep girder]

From the looks of it. But nobody's to say that we're only seeing a portion of just the dimensions themselves going backwards in order with some uniformities as it relates to time, space and all of it together we can observe

[wispy marsh]

Wars and conflicts? Sure

[full fossil]

Okay

Gotchu how much should I give him

[sage pagoda]

Hey, question, how good is the 4070?

[manic torrent]

nobody is to say? I mean aside from people who have literally dedicated their life to specifically researching and saying that

[manic torrent]

it's 10 better than the 4060

[wispy marsh]

It's 3010 better than a 1060

[native crag]

Nvidia is being very stingy with the VRAM. That low count is criminal

[wispy marsh]

They don't care about consumers. Consumers don't buy workstations that come with one to eight $100k chips.

[sage pagoda]

It's in line tho. The higher up in the series the more VRAM

[full fossil]

I thought 40s had shit vram

[sage pagoda]

The 3090 has more than the 3070, and the 4090 has more than the 4070

[gilded quest]

40 series has whack memory bus widths

[native crag]

I agree 1000% with linus. Nvidia needs to split the GPU off to another company. The shareholders will demand AI and will sacrifice the GPU for it

[sage pagoda]

That's just how it be

[manic torrent]

in line with the garbage they give you, yes.

[keen kernel]

so in theory if time was cylindrical like some have speculated we may just be in a stage of the cycle and we can only see one stage at a time

[sage pagoda]

I just wanna know if paired with a i9 12900k, if it will perform well.

[manic torrent]

if only someone had reviewed it

[sage pagoda]

If only

But 600 for a 40 series, not too shabby.

[steep girder]

But it's weird idk. I mean either there is something verbatim uniform to physics which kind of looks like some super-time or there isn't. If there is, it would be kind of like classical observation is made possible everywhere as a projection of all physics with one additional 'depth' to it. Seems like an additional sus factor with no rhyme or reason.

[manic torrent]

rhyme and reason is not how things work.

[steep girder]

Or it could be truly that everything else exists between that singularity we see time space starts from and wherever you are.

[sage pagoda]

Ooh Rammstein nice pfp

[native crag]

You are in a simulation, and the BOFH is laughing at us all

[steep girder]

That would be cool but often times it turns out to still look like we're insignificant and random. Even our local physics and everything sus about it.

Picture like two really high prime numbers. They count up

[native crag]

James Moriarty just wanted to be happy

[steep girder]

Yuhuh

[native crag]

Someone will get the reference

[steep girder]

Just wanted to be happy ||and kill Sherlock Holmes no matter what||

[manic torrent]

you are insignificant and random. The sooner you come to terms with it the better.

[keen kernel]

well dont all theorys on space time say that we are insignificant and either random or just act in a fractal manner with every little thing affecting the outcome

[native crag]

Don't slip into the hole of nihilism. It's a bottomless pit. Don't go there

[keen kernel]

not much point in saying that as most nihilists believe that they are realists

[graceful burrow]

Go there
Nihilism is fuckin rad

[native crag]

It's toxic. Nothing good comes from it.

I mean, do as you wish. Just telling it as it is

[keen kernel]

fair

[oak kindle]

gives you some good info and ways of thinking to add to your framework

[oak kindle]

not really true, youre projecting

[steep girder]

You guys are talking about nihilism as in dismissal of any and all significance at minimum. That's fundamentally it.

But already you didn't realize how you're using a preexisting positive logic to express that. In fact 'idgaf' is nothing more than NOT 'igaf' lol.

[timid meadow]

"Just telling it as it is" isnt a valid reasoning for a belief. Just because something is (or is to you) doesnt mean it should be

[keen kernel]

essentially your saying that is is a switch with no middle ground

[steep girder]

Nihilism is literally secondary to a positive thing offered first.

[oak kindle]

not really lol, nihilism is the absence of some greater significance of us as a species, generally

[keen kernel]

which it can and can not be at times

[oak kindle]

its not expressing a positive, its by definition expressing a negative

[keen kernel]

its important to see both sides

[steep girder]

Yeah exactly what I said.

[timid meadow]

Why does the world being meaningless have to be a bad thing?

[oak kindle]

its not a bad thing at all

[native crag]

I mean, who wakes up and says to themselves "Gee, I wish I was a slug intead of a human"?

[timid meadow]

Me

[steep girder]

But negative expression is usually defined as that second one. Negative is expressed through a positive.

[oak kindle]

no one? how is that tangential

[gilded quest]

oh to be a carefree slug

[native crag]

Don't embrace the salt

[keen kernel]

as there is nihilism and externalism but both at the extemes end in mental absenteeism

[timid meadow]

Almost anything would be better then being human 🤷

I wanna be a bird or some shit

[keen kernel]

and they can be as bad as each other

[oak kindle]

i mean, kind of? everything by default is a negative until proven otherwise, but the expression of a specific thing being a negative value usually relies on the definition of the positive it could be

idk what the point of saying that is

[keen kernel]

we all need to find a healthy ground on the scale for ourselves

[steep girder]

The most widely used definitions are exactly the opposite of what you said. Pay attention to how you can count up from 0 to 1 an so forth. Only one direction is always expressed as the 'opposing' one.

I believe that one way or another, anything you can possible chat with be it a bot, a human, whatever you believe is a part of something. There's already positive logic somehow idk. Fml

You're not the entirety of existence lol

[keen kernel]

shouldnt it be that both sides are opposing both the opposite and themselves as once you go so far into nihilism it becomes not so different from externalism as they both use excuses to explain their faults

[steep girder]

They are both symmetrical in the way you said only if you say you believe that 'it doesn't matter which side is negative and positive'

[keen kernel]

they mirror each others faults and use similar excuses

[steep girder]

In other words you have two where one is expressed through the other. You say that the one expressed through the other is identical to... the other expressed through one.

What you're doing is expressing an additional loss of order between the two or something

[keen kernel]

on the surface they are like yin and yang but they are more like dr jekyl and mr hyde

they cant exist without each other but ones consequences affects the other

ig its just personal choice or which extreme you prefer

[manic torrent]

Being a slug would be awesome

[fallen cedar]

would it

[steep girder]

Well you're oversimplifying it regardless. There have long been was invented to express things like partially ordered algebras and such

[native crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvIh8JvyaYA

[steep girder]

But still ultimately somehow by even being involved with this here physics means that there already exists some kind of positive logic having occurred

[manic torrent]

From an ontological perspective, nothing matters is setting the value of everything to the same - therefore if nothing matters, everything matters.

[keen kernel]

i guess that is true but i struggle to wrap my head around that sort of thinking but i guess that comes with age

[manic torrent]

Nope. Generally just random luck.

[wispy marsh]

Us chinese have a saying "if everything matters, nothing matters"

[keen kernel]

it could also be negative at the same time

[steep girder]

Well yes but back when there was just 'everything AKA nothing' it was neither of those. But somehow an additional thing occurred. In reality, clearly an insane amount of things got simply 'counted' into existence.

[keen kernel]

so there is a middle ground between nothing and something

[manic torrent]

Roll a different universe. Different gravitational constant. Different value of pi. Different Planck length. Any of these constants varying by even a little generally causes complete collapse.

[keen kernel]

is there proof of this

[steep girder]

And those counts themselves were double counted together which I guess looks like complexity now. I literally just expressed a separate count of a count which makes their intrinsic counts lose order with respect to eachother. At least that's how we intuit this.

[manic torrent]

That's how you Intuit it. But you fundamentally don't understand the nature of it.

[manic torrent]

Of what specifically?

[keen kernel]

that any one those constants would cause a collapse

[native crag]

Hypotheticlly, in a multiverse, this is the only one you can exist in, so this one is "perfect"

[manic torrent]

Yes.

[manic torrent]

Wrong as well

It's the only one you do exist in though.

[native crag]

Yes, the one suitable for life (as we know it)

[keen kernel]

only in theory although which is the whole point of nihilism vs externalism in theory there is a higher power in theory there isn't we cannot know for sure if things in theory are work when applied

[manic torrent]

Sooo an infinite number of universes with a countable but huge number of stars/planets and this is the only one?

[native crag]

Maybe 🙂

[winged ferry]

Is it bad to leave my pc out overnight and for a few days without the side panel on

Will it get super dusty or anything?

[manic torrent]

.... What? That's mumbo jumbo my friend.

[vapid smelt]

yes a monster will get inside of it and take your gpu and ram

[manic torrent]

People do it all the time. Some leave it like that. It's fine.

[manic torrent]

That isn't how infinity works

[native crag]

Yeah yeah, you're saying an infinate habital universes too

[manic torrent]

What I'm seeing is a lot of linear thinking applied to non linear concepts

[steep girder]

Right. But instead of focusing on being inside also consider how taking some ranodom portion of our physics for 'no reason' like a part of a rock and some volume of air beside it. It doesn't exist either. You're literally looking at countless combinations of things which don't exist as parallel separate universes. At least there's nothing we can observe about this.

So certain physics laws which don't exist and aren't happening

[manic torrent]

A rock isn't physics.

Do you mean physical object?

[keen kernel]

we cant know whether a small change in the starting values would cause a massive collapse in the universe as we dont have proof

[manic torrent]

We do, that's the whole point of physics.

Again, literally people spend their whole life on this.

[steep girder]

Well that's a good question because yeah: it seems like there is a 'numbers' side to all things in the big bang universe and 'stuff' that those numbers describe idk.

[manic torrent]

No, you're just waffling about things you don't understand.

[steep girder]

To be honest yeah. Definitely I'm not the person who can properly explain any of this or come even close to doing so lol

[keen kernel]

yes but that doesnt mean everything must be true and definite

[manic torrent]

Next you'll be misunderstanding Schrodinger's cat.

[steep girder]

I don't even understand a lot of it.

[manic torrent]

What? You don't know shit about fuck

[steep girder]

To be honest even Feynman a long time ago said he doesn't understand either. There are these numbers we use but basically fck if I know what they mean lol. We use them but don't know where they come from or fully understand even what they are.

[digital quarry]

sup

[keen kernel]

well then explain as you are pretty much saying that stuff must be true as it just is

[steep girder]

Literally Feynman himself said that. At which point he stopped persuing that train of thought because it's no longer science. He even began expressing subjectively lack of understanding numbers from the same voice he was using to formally express his scientific work. Red flag red flag lol

[manic torrent]

What stuff. I said a very fucking specific thing. You're saying "oh but we don't know!" Which is vague and handwavy as shit.

[steep girder]

Everyone decided that this is exactly the most optimal scientific interpretation of QM (but actually everything) possible. It's actually the right answer by being optimally free of baseless additional expressions I believe. It also happens to be the most popular interpretation by far.

[manic torrent]

Because when you pontificate on the nature of the universe you disappear up your own asshole very quickly

[steep girder]

Scientific interpretation is an oxymoron. The idea is you don't interpret anything. Interpretation means saying something additional with respect to what it is you're interpreting.

[timid meadow]

Pub chat went from "you dont always have to detach yourself" to "My BIG WORDS are bigger then yours roooaaarrrr"

[manic torrent]

There are many types of science. Some of which require significant interpretation. Others can be shown with a proof.

[thick agate]

5G brainwaves go brrrr

[steep girder]

Significant interpretation you're probably referring to theory. Something is there but there is not yet any observed proof ruling out multiple explanations

[manic torrent]

Science != Physics.

The set of physics is part of the set of science.

Nobody ever did it

[steep girder]

In biology there are a lot of examples like that. One way or another we know life on Earth began. Or even at some point in time there somehow showed up these prokaryotic cells and eukaryotic cells. They are different. One evolved out of the other perhaps. Officially 'correct' answer. Eukaryotic cells evolved out of Prokaryotic not vice versa. Officially 'correct' answer.

But we actually require a theory to explain something. Having said that, there are theories which require less explanation than others. Sometimes it boils down to just pure likelihoods of something happening even 'randomly' with respect to other things. If you can't justify anything beyond that...

[manic torrent]

Thanks for explaining science to me

I had no idea.

[steep girder]

Well yeah but the thing about scientifically significant interpretation idk. I'm pretty sure there's no such thing

[manic torrent]

You're pretty sure?

[steep girder]

There should ultimately be a portion which is significant and a remainder which is pure interpretation.

[manic torrent]

I guess fuckin millions.of scientists are totally full of shit, you have the answer right here.

[full fossil]

hello bob, how's ya doing

[steep girder]

I mean perhaps the very thing I was trying to show with the positive logic?

Idk. Nobody is wrong for interpreting things so long as it's consistent logically and algebraically.

If there's anything signified by science, all the power to them. It's probably the reverse case because you can't dismiss it.

But again, at that point I fail to see how it's not just scientific theory.

[keen kernel]

have things calmed down a bit

[full fossil]

seems so

[keen kernel]

good

was starting to get a bit heated

[full fossil]

Give it time, it may come back lol

[keen kernel]

lol

[wise kettle]

Why do I always miss the fun stuff

[keen kernel]

lol

[full fossil]

bc you are slow

[wise kettle]

☹️

[keen kernel]

bit mean lol

[full fossil]

ahh sorry about that:_

[keen kernel]

dont say sorry to me

[manic torrent]

you know. Angry at the world.

[full fossil]

Who isn't at this point

[pliant karma]

lol the first random airdrop

[full fossil]

Srry there Mr jake

[wise kettle]

Eh I don’t care

[sharp bobcat]

😔

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/yelling-cloud-old-man-news-gif-14394596

[full fossil]

Where can I find a replacement charger for my inspiron 15 5558? Seems like my old charger died

[native crag]

So there's a dell part number on the back of it. You should be able to find a new-old stock replacement. Also, there's plenty of alternate Dell PSUs that are compatible as well, but you'll want a list of them

Amazon usually has them

Do NOT get some random generic PSU. You'll want the Dell branded one

Many generic PSUs don't sense voltage correctly, and will cause a Dell POST error code. At best, they won't charge the battery but will boot the laptop. So again, get Dell

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Original-Dell-Replacement-Inspiron/dp/B01AV3NV6U

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXGO6QSC5Fg ' So again, get Dell'

[native crag]

I can smell his skunkweed breath from here lol

Ok, I'm going to call it a night for me. Bashing my head into a server due to VSS errors caused by an EDR agent. Fun times /s

[acoustic pond]

Night~

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-and-seek-good-night-baby-yoda-hide-cute-gif-17010762

[unreal thorn]

You're not an "influencer." You're a criminal and a sinner.

[polar fern]

In fluid stir

[unreal thorn]

I agree

[wispy marsh]

[full fossil]

life boring

[vapid smelt]

then restart and pick a better charater

[full fossil]

Already play through 9 characters

Gets boring after a while

[wispy marsh]

What's interesting today?

[full fossil]

It's raining heavily, that's interesting.

For me tho.

[broken folio]

Looks like another sunny day ahead

Also, my dog has just stunk the room out and looked disgusted by it and slinked off. Send gas mask.

[full fossil]

Gas masks are the being dropped off at your location

[broken folio]

She'll be back pretty soon when I get breakfast.

And of course will act as if nothing at all happened.

[polar fern]

Life is not here for your sole entertainment

[full fossil]

Who said it was, tho youtube is

[polar fern]

https://youtu.be/eJaNDQ-jkxs

[full fossil]

bad vibes

[lunar anchor]

damn the warwick accoustics aperio is sooo fuckin good

I dont think i need he1 anymore

[full fossil]

[lunar anchor]

i dont like the source unit

but i think that integrating it into my desk is gonna be worth it

honestly think its replacing my utopias its enough of a step up to warrant the lack of ease of use

[full fossil]

Imagine doing some overclocking in the wooden pc and it gets so hot it gets set on fire

A nice campfire

[vapid smelt]

no need just fail to insert the 4090 power adapter correctly

[glacial sand]

Can i eat your profile

It looks appetizing

[full fossil]

Nahh just buy a gigabyte power supply

Or a Asus flagship motherboard

[glacial sand]

Its 9 am why arent i sleeping

Ok good bye

[hasty hazel]

9 am where i live too

and i didnt sleep 💀

[glacial sand]

I have finals

[hasty hazel]

good luck man.

[hasty hazel]

wya btw

[glacial sand]

Kurdistan

[hasty hazel]

cool

[remote idol]

It's 2am for me

[glacial sand]

Wya, west asia?

[hasty hazel]

im in kuwait

[glacial sand]

Oh💀💀💀

[hasty hazel]

ltt lovers worldwide babyy

[full fossil]

That’s a lot of continents we are covering gentlemen’s

[glacial sand]

I think we have everyone

[full fossil]

I mean just in this conversation alone