public-chat

[mint yacht]

Last time I saw the voice chat used there? Two weeks ago, 1 person afk there for about 3 hours before leaving

[timid meadow]

The fp vc gets the random group maybe once a week, if that. Alot of us mute and just listen to people go back and forth. Handful of us wont even join if someone we know isnt already lurking

[hasty geode]

pfp checks out

[full fossil]

exactly?

[mint yacht]

How do you expect us to moderate it?

[delicate stream]

why are you making it personal lmao

[mint yacht]

Just saying that it's not used often at all

[delicate stream]

like how other servers do it? is there an issue here?

[full fossil]

im out of counteragruments starter pack

[mint yacht]

We as a staff team simply don't trust any of y'all to be able to behave yourselves in a VC
We used to have public VCs but a couple people ruined it for everyone else

[delicate stream]

sucks

probably cos linus has a lot of teenage audience

i was asking a genuine question how is that trolling?

i get this server has its own rules

but i have never seen such a big public server without vc

you are the one calling me a clown

[zenith cradle]

shocking take

[fossil frost]

teenage or not... people are arseholes... and it only takes 1 person to ruin it for everyone

[full fossil]

shock

[zenith cradle]

s

[delicate stream]

damn what happened here lmao

[zenith cradle]

there is nothing in the message, yet it showed up

[fossil frost]

its the internet in general, people feel safe sat behind their keyboard. so are free to act like arseholes, and they do

[full fossil]

nah you are internet is bad https://jjl.li/achlLUnM

[zenith cradle]

in the public discord of a channel with 25 million subs, i understand your situation

[fossil frost]

­

unicode empty character...

[full fossil]

silly

[crude jasper]

Could do a similar thing to what newegg discord does, they have ranking system where you get XP for each message sent, capped at 1 message every 5 seconds for the XP, and at like level 60 or something you get access to the private channels

[fossil frost]

alt + 2800, inserts an invisible character that is used as a empty marker (used in braille)

[fossil frost]

encourages spamming in the public channels

[crude jasper]

not really ~ thats why the XP is capped to a certain period

i've seen that system work nicely in newegg for 3 years

[fossil frost]

slow mode is set at 10s here anyway

[timid meadow]

Feel like warship might be able to help with that one but im not a mod so idk

[fossil frost]

so every message you send counts

and you can break messages up like this

[crude jasper]

warship would help, and if they are spamming in a dead channel it would be blatantly obvious so you can just punish them

[fossil frost]

and still have them count and make sense

and warship wouldnt ban this either

[crude jasper]

non-issue

[fossil frost]

5 messages, 5 xp gained, for what could be a single message getting 1 xp

[timid meadow]

Thats not necessarily spam tho. Sometimes my brain just works like that. Wife hates it, she'll get like 4 txts from me bc they were all separate but related thoughts that could have been 1 txt

[fossil frost]

if you introduce a system that can be gamed, people will game the system

[dusty rune]

the case of #1106613567966429224 :(

[full fossil]

im going to game you

[crude jasper]

#tech-chat-2 goes off-topic just as much now ~ it wasn't the only reason its forum mode now

[mint yacht]

Yeah cause all the people moved there lol

However, their discussions are tech-adjacent enough such that it isn't a huge issue there

[full fossil]

the word gamble is made out of game and?

[dusty rune]

ble

[timid meadow]

Idk i like threads for build a pc

[fossil frost]

game and gameling, gameling being a person who plays games

[dusty rune]

so if we were to talk about planes vs jedi....

[timid meadow]

Still salty about #1027757333117415424 tho

[dusty rune]

nah tbf tech support being a thread makes it easier for everyone

[fossil frost]

almost like people will do what they do, and if their platform is closed, they will just do the same thing somewhere else 🙂

[timid meadow]

I get why people like it. Id prefer to have both options. But mods have their reasons for their choices 🤷

Just make a "tech support and stuff" channel kek. That way its allowed to go a little off topic

[mint yacht]

Or, y'know, move to the #off-topic channel

[crude jasper]

yeah but off-topic has a 10 second slowmode for whatever reason

why is that?

[mint yacht]

We don't have a problem when like, it's the occasional off topic discussion slipped in-between on-topic things, but when it's over an hour of continuously weird discussions for the channel lol

[mint yacht]

I don't know actually, but I'll ask the rest of the staff and see about it

[jolly girder]

do anyone here use dell g15?

[zenith cradle]

What is TUF reffering to and intending to be? it's Asus entirely right?

it is just another ''ROG''?

budget ROG? 😄

[crude jasper]

The Ultimate Force

TUF is their budget line, while ROG is their top of the line.

but 30 series TUF and afaik 40 series TUF has superb design

[strange elk]

TUF is budget?

[crude jasper]

yes ~ ROG lineup has traditionally always been more expensive than TUF.

[full fossil]

i would say in the lineup anything released under asus’ general name is budget with tuf being 2nd most expensive and rog being most

[nocturne sail]

Wasn't always the case, when TUF first appeared it was for x99 motherboards and it was "military graded" actually high end stuff

but as time went on it became a tier below ROG in ASUS line up

Note, personally speaking, ASUS should not be bought as their quality has sharply declined over the years and nowadays they are no different than Razer: all marketing no real quality assurance.

[crude jasper]

it was military grade still for 30 series

[crude jasper]

....what?

[dusty rune]

the normal asus branding is budget

[crude jasper]

TUF is still budget

[dusty rune]

even my laptop was military graded and i dont think it would survive a fall

[dusty rune]

theyre mid range

[crude jasper]

the TUF GPUs would ~ they are incredibly well built

[crude jasper]

the pricing is budget ~ no

[dusty rune]

tuf is rarely on the list the cheapest options

[zenith cradle]

i feel like asus just makes solid screens generally

Seems like they don't aim for the cheapest, and they very often have great functionality like tilt/rot/swivvel etc

[dusty rune]

look at any 30 series gpu if you want to talk about those, theyre in the middle

[crude jasper]

yet the TUF GPUs are all cheaper than their strix counterpart, and evenly matched or they will trade blows with the base ASUS line

[crude jasper]

ASUS TUF 3080 was $700, budget card.

i bought them ~ i should know

[dusty rune]

asus normal branding is budget
asus tuf is midrange
rog is high end

what is so wrong about this?

[dusty rune]

oh wow you got a good deal one time, surely dictates their marketing

[crude jasper]

one time? the retail pricing was $700 for the ASUS TUF 3080

[zenith cradle]

Something of GREAT annoyance to me, is that any screen builder would every have an external powerbrick

[crude jasper]

also dozens of times ~ not once

[dusty rune]

because you can get a nitro+ for sometimes the cheapest does it mean its budget

[crude jasper]

yes it does?

[zenith cradle]

When sorting for 144hz screens asus, TUF is the cheapest 10 😄

[dusty rune]

the best air cooled model for amd laptops is budget

[crude jasper]

the adjective for "budget" is quite literally "inexpensive"

you cannot argue against this

[dusty rune]

and look at any gpu in the 30 series
the only time tuf is cheaper than normal asus is the 3070ti

and normal 3070 ig

[crude jasper]

4070ti 4080 4090

[dusty rune]

30 series

[crude jasper]

and

[dusty rune]

there arent even normal asus cards for those

[crude jasper]

how can a normal asus 3080 be cheaper than $700

[dusty rune]

cause normal asus is BUDGET ORIENTED and is SHIT

[crude jasper]

that is not possible without a discount

[dusty rune]

an exception is not a rule

[crude jasper]

"3070, 3070ti, 3080, 4070ti, 4080, 4090"
the base 4070 TUF is both cheaper and more expensive than normal asus

[dusty rune]

4070ti, 4080 and 4090 dont include the normal asus

[crude jasper]

and

[dusty rune]

so theyre out of the picture

[crude jasper]

how? that simply makes no sense

[dusty rune]

how can you compare prices from something against something that doesnt exist

[crude jasper]

because the TUF is cheaper than the strix, means TUF models are the budget lineup for those OEMs

[dusty rune]

asus dual 4070 is cheaper than tuf

huh crazy how only 2 gpus have the tuf being cheaper

[tulip wraith]

i always wondered whats the difference between tuf and rog like theyre both asus

[dusty rune]

tuf is cheaper than rog

[tulip wraith]

4090 rog isnt

[dusty rune]

rog is their top of the line, tuf is good but not the cheapest

[crude jasper]

tuf 4090 is cheaper than rog

[tulip wraith]

yea

[elfin solar]

Do people realise military grade is a marketing term?

[crude jasper]

yes

However, if it was actually graded for that, it actually is meaningful in electronics. You wouldn't want an F-15 or F-35 falling out of the sky and killing their pilot worth more than his weight in gold

[broken folio]

It could be seen as certification.

(in the correct military use)

Outside of miliatary use the term is meaningless.

[crude jasper]

not really

advanced electronics for military use are very high grade

for something more simple? it means its even worse than something consumer end

[elfin solar]

about to post that. Many things the military use are "good enough" for the job at a certain price.

[broken folio]

military equipment development is so long typically that by the time it enters service it is technically outdated already.

[slate agate]

military grade. (made by the lowest bidder)

[fervent prairie]

What is your current system specs?

[broken folio]

Then you have things like NASA and the like with a specific set of requirements, meaning older hardware is much more prevelant

[crude jasper]

they care less about the lowest bidder for things used in 8-9 figure machinery

[fervent prairie]

Ok PSU?

Well then depending on region you should be able to find a 6700xt new for under 400€.

3060ti or 4060ti are similar performance but usually cost more and you have less VRAM which will be a problem in new AAA games.

[dusty rune]

what about a normal 6700

[fervent prairie]

6600xt/6650xt/7600 and 3060 are about equal in performance and 6700xt/3060ti/4060ti is similar. It mostly depends on price to performance or if you need a specific feature like cuda

Where are you from? Country?@nova plover

[dusty rune]

?

[fervent prairie]

Sadge. It's 349€ in Germany. Did you check multiple retailers?

[dusty rune]

whats the price on the 3060ti and 6650xt though
if the 3060ti is only a bit more, id buy that

[low rain]

I ended up sleeping so imma shower rn

[dusty rune]

whats the price on the 3060ti

depends on the price tbh

[fervent prairie]

2080super is around 3060ti/6700xt performance

So of you can find one for a good price that is alright

[tribal compass]

What’s the next iPhone 14 pro max case for protection ?

[muted iris]

I think

I'll go for the 6950XT over the 4070

[dusty rune]

3060 or smth

yeah about 3060

if youre brave enough

[fossil frost]

a770 is a very good card for the price right now, and its intel, even if battlemage is never released, you can expect a few years of driver updates at least

[full fossil]

exactly

[vague jackal]

y'all... i just found a 28.000 euro audiophile pc with staggering 20 core xeon https://taikoaudio.com/taiko-2020/product/extreme-high-end-music-server/

[vapid zephyr]

A little more than a 3060

A380 = RX 6400
Pro A60 > 3050
A750 = 3060
A770 > 3060

[elfin solar]

That is the type of business Labs could go after.

[uncut arch]

But they did the alien "research 😂:
"Emerging from many years of relentless researching, comparing and listening, the Extreme is the culmination of what is possible in the field of music servers."

[manic torrent]

I'm impressed. I would like to do a back to back comparison of an ewaste PC with a decent DAC 😄

[low rain]

I woke up to a big ass truck with a converter belt leading up to my roof and people on my roof working

[last solstice]

This honestly looks well built

Not 28000 but maybe 10000?

18000 audio phile tax

[tired glade]

What's pro a60?

[molten drift]

Gotta say I really hate Cisco VPN.... So far I'm at 4 reboots as it keeps timing out when trying to connect to it

[wise pumice]

cheese

[terse crane]

@young moon https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1728464274223117?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A7085a4a7-8370-45cd-83e0-e01870959671

[robust saddle]

Guys I buy Rtx 4070 but before I do someone tell me whats better

I also just play (tarkov and dcs)

[midnight pollen]

I'm about to crap my pants someone on FB marketplace might sell me an i9 12900k for $80 - aside from being murdered is it a bad idea to buy this used?

And anyway to check the chip to see if it's been damaged or is the only way to make a build and test it

[distant wren]

Make a build and test

Or send it to a store to test? If they want to help

Or ask to see it workingn? Definitely ask why it’s being sold

[midnight pollen]

It's just some random girl in the woods selling it so hmmm....

[dusty rune]

12900k for 80$ has got to be a scam

[signal badger]

Scam for sure

[dusty rune]

could be one of those that GN made a vid about

where its basically a celeron

[young moon]

Decent i’d ask 100£ lower

[young moon]

Get a 6950xt instead for the same price

Tarkov loves vram

It will eat up crapton of vram but what is DCS?

[zenith cradle]

So i got my rx 6600xt, it is installed, what do i do now, i wanna monitor and test my PC

[mint yacht]

Hwinfo64 for monitoring, 3dmark time spy for testing

3dmark has a free demo on steam

[zenith cradle]

Should i not get AMD software for latest drivers and overclocking?

[mint yacht]

MSI afterburner for overclocking (or just use whatever AMD built into the drivers afaik those are good)

You absolutely should install drivers

Thought that would've been the second step after installing the thing in your system

[zenith cradle]

is it not easiest to install the AMD program for GPUs

what is the program called?..

[dusty rune]

amd adrenaline

[zenith cradle]

my whole PC is AMD

[summer folio]

Lenovo bloatware freezes my ThinkPad up for several seconds everytime I forget to use FN-Key+F-keys(=starting random THinkpad bullshit)

[mint yacht]

You google "AMD drivers" and it's the first link

Then you pick your card, open the right dropdown for your OS, and install the driver

Exactly the same process for Nvidia drivers

[heavy dust]

y’all ever accidentally make eye contact w sm1 in ur class 27 times

[summer folio]

At least ThinkPads are nice to type on

[feral path]

USB HDD made for Xbox, Formatted to function on PC, it has USB 3 and my pc has USB 2
It is very slow

[summer folio]

Go give them a surprise back rub

[heavy dust]

man what are you saying

[terse crane]

@young moon https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/949609032912843
got it down to £725

[zenith cradle]

the last time i had a GPU was 2.5 years ago

[terse crane]

what do you think @young moon ?

[young moon]

Yo wtf look at the gpu plug lmfao

Only half of it is connected to something wtf

[terse crane]

ah yes
just noticed

would the gpu even work like that?

[young moon]

Idk

[mint yacht]

Picture and show us

[terse crane]

like as well as it could?

[young moon]

No image perms here

[mint yacht]

In tech chat 1 then

[summer folio]

Just log in to facebook & the image-url works.

HBO Max just raised prices 50 cent?!? wtf

4$ for HBO Max per month now, idk man

[zenith cradle]

ty btm

[summer folio]

I have streaming services I pay for, but it's a hassle to switch between sites so I just torrent or use pirate streaming sites for actual watching.

(Pirates are well known to spend more money on cultural stuff than non-pirates)

[tepid jasper]

Speak for yourself, I only hijack oil tankers that get too close to the shoreli e

[summer folio]

Yeah, except for games. Only true for all other media.

[gilded forge]

trying to watch the extended showcase, 480p on 5G and the damn thing is buffering every 5 mins and stuttering every 7 secs.

I'm just gonna have to check gamesrecap.io and scrub through the vod later

okay force quitting YouTube worked

[zenith cradle]

@mint yacht i installed everything, restarded PC, and there is no sign of any AMD or Radeon or Adrenaline program on my PC, is it just windows refusing to let me search it up?

[gilded forge]

Keanu Reeves's laugh is so wholesome

[zenith cradle]

no shortcuts anywhere

[gilded forge]

have you used everything search?

[zenith cradle]

The bottom left windows search as always

[gilded forge]

okay yeah that kinda sucks. there's a tool called Everytging Search and it allows you to instantaneously search through everything on your system

[zenith cradle]

is there some ''recent installs'' place to look up?

[gilded forge]

control panel (and the settings app maybe) has a list of all installed programs.

everyone in the showcase's live chat is saying Gollum, Gollum dlc. lmao

I swear anything that isn't an FPS, the chat just shits on it immensely. like Avowed's trailer just okayed and it was fucking awesome. I love the Pillars games. but everyone's like "how does anyone have time for turn based rpg games they're so boring"

oh my god the Series X has so much better exclusives. PS5 exclusives are basically just third-person action adventure games. X|S has FPS, RPGs, Strategy..like it's much more varied.

[robust saddle]

Why

[young moon]

6950xt performs like a 4070 Ti pretty much

And tarkov really loves vram it’ll eat up all of ur vram

[robust saddle]

So you telling me to team red?

[young moon]

Pretty much

Got a 3070 myself im soon upgrading to a 6800xt/6950xt/7800xt

How many hours u got on tarkie?

[slate tulip]

I’m Team Blue - best team ;)

[young moon]

Im fairly certain this server disallows such usernames

Yeah rule 11

[slate tulip]

𓀐𓂸
I have a feeling this isn’t exactly appropriate in a username…

[full fossil]

no that’s a good one

Hll m nm is mrkmddrgn nd i m crsed t spk b rmvng vwls

[slate tulip]

Okay, but what if you weren’t?

[full fossil]

on god

[slate tulip]

Who, what, why?

[full fossil]

Dk wht wld hppn. Cn u tll m?

[elfin solar]

Not sure sharing it here is the best idea 🙂

[unreal holly]

Let my balls on fire I don't feel like shaving

[storm coral]

Can sb help me build a pc using 3 Jordanian sites and a tight budget for gaming?

[distant wren]

Het content should speak for itself

As in if it’s what people want to watch people would watch

[molten drift]

Not sure that's needed here. But try the hedge trimmer from landscaped if it's such a problem you need to share with the internet

[violet blade]

why are LED computer monitors so rare and expensive but LED TVs so widespread and cheap

[stray apex]

OLED?

[broken folio]

Because it is easier to get a bigger panel for a TV to work, and scaling it down for monitors and devices is apparently much harder.

[violet blade]

but that doesn't seem reasonable, since they are being adopted in smartphones aswell. the galaxy A54 has a QHD(ish) 120 hz AMOLED display but only retails at 570$

[broken folio]

AMOLED has been around for a good while now, its different to the tech in the Samsung and LG OLED TVs which are quantum dot and WOLED respectively

Another aspect of it is that the technology of developing those panels is VERY expensive. So they start with the most expensive panels first to recover that investment.

[neon mesa]

about 1.5 years late
just looking back at old messages

shortage was a dark time

[violet blade]

but that just poses a new question, why aren't AMOLED screens being developed for PCs?

[stuck cove]

[violet blade]

tech is mature, and panels seem cheap. a samsung galaxy S8 AMOLED QHD(ish) screen only costs 134$

[stuck cove]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1118263901616885872

[violet blade]

and i'm no LED expert, but it feels like it'd be easier to make bigger LED screens than smaller LED screens. just look at yield losses when moving to a smaller node in processor manufacturing

[pulsar hemlock]

i've just been casually playing guitar in my room as you do and because i play through a DAW i can make it very loud as i often do, some motherfucker outside just shouted up to me "play freebird" 😭

[gentle slate]

yall should I become a backseat streamer

I notice so many errors with people streams, I just want to point them out and get them to fix it

[past egret]

the fuck does that mean

[gentle slate]

You could easily extrapolate the meaning of that given some basic internet knowledge and the context in the latter message.

[fossil frost]

or you could just explain what issues you have seen rather than being an arrogant dick about it

[gentle slate]

sry server rubs off on me sometimes

[slate tulip]

😆

[past egret]

all i got from the original message was that you enjoy nitpicking

[fossil frost]

dont we all?

[broken folio]

I expect MiniLED is the likely case to come to PC monitors and devices ahead of QD/WOLED

[past egret]

to a degree yes, but not enough to make a post about streaming

[vapid smelt]

Nearly every monitor is led

[neon mesa]

we just call them LCD because that's what they are

"LED" TVs are also LCD

[broken folio]

Theres all kinds of panel types from TN, VA, IPS and WOLED (LG) and QDOLED (Samsung) and along with mini/microLED thats not really released yet (other than seemingly in the new Apple VR headset...)

the cheapest 60Hz panels are likely to be TN as its dirt cheap, maybe VA in some cases.

[long briar]

60hz is almost always TN or IPS

[lucid echo]

One of the shittier marketing gimmicks

[fossil frost]

"its now LED, because we use LEDs as a backlight"...

[quaint fern]

Where should I go to troubleshoot a problem with an xbox controller hooked to my pc?

[lucid echo]

#1027757333117415424
Good luck!

[quaint fern]

thx

[muted iris]

Well I did it

I purchased a 6950XT, good stuff

[fossil frost]

good choice

[tacit trout]

Is there a place I can suggest a video ??

[fossil frost]

forums

[tacit trout]

tnx

which section do you suggest for me to post a suggestion for a new video in?

on the forum

[fossil frost]

wtf, there used to be a video suggestions forum... erm... no idea now... general?

[tacit trout]

tnx

[vague zealot]

Don't suppose anyone has a Tildes invite spare?

[obsidian prairie]

Is there a voice chat in this server?

[summer folio]

Do people in general mean late sleep or no-sleep-at-all, when they say "all-nighter"?

let's pull an all-nighter

[graceful burrow]

Two, for floatplane subs

[slate tulip]

What if i don’t want to float in a plane, just like, those little arm floaties instead

[mint yacht]

No sleep at all

[molten drift]

It means up all night

[long briar]

[wind scroll]

Anyone tryna buy pc parts

[graceful burrow]

Nope

Put em up on ebay/Facebook

[wind scroll]

I did aswl dw

But discords working surprisingly well

[stray apex]

Not this one

[wind scroll]

Iv noticed🔥

Im just tryna make some money wha with the abuse

[molten drift]

That's not abuse.

Well almost turning 30. Few more hours

[lucid echo]

Rule 5, no soliciting

[wind scroll]

Ok

But when

[gentle slate]

Sure you could say so. If desynced audio and video issues are nitpciking.

or badly gated mics clipping severely.

[misty scarab]

Are the hyper x cloud 2 good

[slate tulip]

Until brooklyn? 😛

[plush rivet]

their ok
not the best i would say tho

[slate tulip]

So young!

[misty scarab]

Anything better though for the price

[gilded quest]

nice

[molten drift]

Had my birthday burrito today as they sent my coupon early .. wishing we had cheese curds near me ..

[tired glade]

Oh, no video today, had something happened?

[lunar anchor]

not really

[slate tulip]

Happy birthday!

[idle nymph]

Good for their price

[lunar anchor]

if you dont want their funky mic thing then there is much better for the price

[slate tulip]

And yum, burrito 😋

[molten drift]

Your 6 hours 8 mins early but thanks

[lunar anchor]

if you insist on a headset mic then they are good

[misty scarab]

As long as it has a mic

[echo canopy]

No https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/hyperx/cloud-2-cloud-ii

[misty scarab]

Link to a better product that costs the same?

Also 7.6 / 10 is bad now ?

[echo canopy]

Thats its average

you can see the breakdown of how they got to the score and raw data

[elfin solar]

I remember my 30th.... that is a lie.

[molten drift]

I'll remember my 30th... I don't drink and will be working

[misty scarab]

Cons
Non Issue 1
Non Issue 2
Non Issue 3
Maybe issue

[lucid echo]

That rtings review also includes similarly-priced headphones and how they compare

[molten drift]

I had no problem with my hyper x could 2's but I use the wireless ones now. I forget the exact model name.

[misty scarab]

For a review website, it seems to have a lot of subjective cons

[fierce moth]

Rtings is a great starting point but it shouldn't be your only stop

[misty scarab]

Rather than pure objective

[molten drift]

Mine were the red and black ones from. GameStop when I had the cloud,2's

[misty scarab]

Amazon has them and that's about it unless GameStop

[elfin solar]

I realised when I was at uni drinking wasn't my thing. Took me three years to learn though 🙂
The odd beer is about all I have now.

[lucid echo]

Headphones are highly subjective, that's why. Some of the cons (noise isolation and sharp sounds) are measurable qualities, though

[molten drift]

I just don't drink it's instant heartburn for me. So I just. Slam water sprite juice and Baja blast down my throat like it's an Olympic sport

[echo canopy]

You can just scroll more and look at how they got to that conclusion

What you're looking at is a TLDR which by default is going to be subjective

[molten drift]

I wonder what chic FIL a will give me for my birthday free food.since I'm their highest level of rewards.

[echo canopy]

You can IMO get a better experience getting good IEM and a external mic

within the same budget as well

You can get the Razer BlackShark V2 for slightly worse comfort and mic (altho if youre playing a game like TF2 that wont matter) with much better audio quality
10 usd more tho

[vital niche]

I have razer surround Xs, some sounds do sound sharp

[misty scarab]

Called GameStop they have the alpha and stinger for 100 but no clouds

[misty scarab]

All I'm doing is talking on discord and maybe in game so on headphones doesn't matter

I do need comfort tho, current is a Logitech g whatever but theyre broken now

Sad thing tho is there's no pink colour for the alphas or stingers

[vital niche]

get red and sunbleach it

[misty scarab]

That's black and pink tho

[vital niche]

BLACKPINK is a popular band

[misty scarab]

The clouds are white and pink

[echo canopy]

I could never imagine spending less then 100 on cans. Only IEMs

[misty scarab]

100 is a lot

I'm splurging to even consider 70 for something as mundane as headphones

Considering i just spent damn near 700 for a gpu

[lucid echo]

Almost like different people have different priorities & levels of expendable income or something

[echo canopy]

Im not poor shaming its just hard to get good value out of cans in that price range

Ignoring sound stage a lot of IEMS have much better audio quality and comfort.

[misty scarab]

The Logitechs i got are amazing but they broke and when i bought them they were on sale

So their cost is a lot higher now

They even had a mic

[lucid echo]

Are they fixable at all? What broke?

[misty scarab]

The side the cord goes into stopped working but the right side still works

How are the Stingers and Alphas

Don't one of the LMG staff use clouds? I remember seeing a extreme upgrade video with pink clouds on it

If it's good enough for LMG staff it's good enough for me

[echo canopy]

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority

[gentle slate]

Cloud 2's? Love em. Wear em 16 hrs a day every day

[eager venture]

Can someone help me with my Nintendo switch

[lucid echo]

#1027757333117415424

[misty scarab]

What kind of scam link are you sending me

[misty scarab]

Does the same apply for the cloud alphas

[gentle slate]

idk

[eager venture]

Less tech more hardware

[lucid echo]

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

[long briar]

they aren't a band. onewe is a band.

[lucid echo]

Hardware is tech, there are hardware questions all the time in there

[misty scarab]

I don't click on shady links

Stop trying to log my token

[lucid echo]

That is very much not how it works

[echo canopy]

1. dont be schitzo
2. thats not how it works

[long briar]

yourlogicalfallacyis is probably the most trustworthy site for showing fallacies lmao

[misty scarab]

Never heard of it

[long briar]

Doesn't mean it's not trustworthy

Ever heard of byd?

[misty scarab]

Bring your device ?

[vital niche]

yo kid how old r u

[long briar]

no, the largest electric car company in China

[misty scarab]

Not a kid 😎

[long briar]

you probably shouldn't be proud to not be a kid and not know what a logical fallacy is...

[vital niche]

I mean, they work at AMD

[misty scarab]

I know what a fallacy is, i never heard of that website

[misty scarab]

It's satire if you take 2 seconds to read the full entire thing

[echo canopy]

Another fallacy

[vital niche]

aha

gotteeem

[long briar]

shocking. Are you new to NA?

[misty scarab]

North America ?

[long briar]

no, naturally aspirated OF COURSE NORTH AMERICA

[misty scarab]

My car is not naturally aspirated

[grim ravine]

Murica

[misty scarab]

Considering I've been a citizen of 2 north American countries i think i am not new to north America

[echo canopy]

One second im about to get political || american okay ||

[long briar]

Breh

[vital niche]

America #1 with first frmr president to get arraigned

[misty scarab]

This funeral is sponsored by Dbrand with a Dbrand skinned coffin

[summer folio]

relected*

[misty scarab]

So the cloud alphas are good right

[echo canopy]

Not the first

[misty scarab]

They cost more so they're probably better than the cloud 2s

[long briar]

cloud ii and cloud alpha are effectively the same

[misty scarab]

Why does the alpha cost more

[long briar]

the only difference is cable and earcup yoke

[misty scarab]

What about the cable

[long briar]

and both are just takstar pro 80

[misty scarab]

Dunno what that is

[echo canopy]

Nope, the cloud alphas have a much much better treble response

[long briar]

alpha s however, adds angled drivers which makes it worse than the alpha/c2 because it's not tuned properly

[summer folio]

Sweden have a prime minister that became famous for having used the governments money/debit card to buy Toblerone Chocolate once(illegal, should used her own debit card of course)

[long briar]

source?

[misty scarab]

What does driver's have to do with this, do i need to install specific drivers

[echo canopy]

rtings
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/hyperx/cloud-alpha
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/hyperx/cloud-2-cloud-ii

[long briar]

oh those mfs

[vital niche]

the speaker drivers

[slate tulip]

wait, who does?

[echo canopy]

Tommy

[vital niche]

I misread

[slate tulip]

@misty scarab you work for at AMD?

[echo canopy]

according to their bio

[vital niche]

#TommyForAMD

[summer folio]

Kinda weird USA havent had a killed president in a while

[slate tulip]

oh, and here I thought we could have some sort of cool rivalry

[echo canopy]

We cant see that
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1013145815373598731/1118306070092329061/image.png

[misty scarab]

Well it says that

[distant wren]

You make systems people have to use and he mocks people who make systems. You and him are not the same

[misty scarab]

AMD is good tho

[echo canopy]

AMD mid

[misty scarab]

Me when my CPU can outperform a 13900 in my most played game

[vital niche]

is that the note u put on urself

[long briar]

idk man

[misty scarab]

No that's in my about me

[vital niche]

It just puts ellipsis for me

after superior

[misty scarab]

Sounds like your discord as a skill issue then

[long briar]

the differences in fr can be attributed to unit variance or seal due to a slightly different yoke and maybe headband

[long briar]

no, we actually use pcs

[misty scarab]

I use one too

[vital niche]

Mobile is the skill issue

[echo canopy]

the alphas are measurably more consistent / close to a flat curve in treble
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1013145815373598731/1118306706779275376/image.png

[long briar]

desktop discord supports less lines in bio than mobile

[echo canopy]

overall they are much flatter as well. the alphas also have less distortion. they are just better audio quality wise

[long briar]

you do know that it's highly variable right

Ear gain region is often dismissed past about 10k because you can't get a consistent measurement on it

• your ears are not the ears on the hms they use

it could be completely different for you

[lunar anchor]

yall are comparing graphs without knowing what they mean

[echo canopy]

It is still noticable especially when our baseline is that bad

[lunar anchor]

its great, continue entertaining me

[long briar]

I know what they mean, I don't know what they're after

[echo canopy]

they arent the same headset

[misty scarab]

It has an
AMD® Ryzen™ 7 5800X3D 8-Core CPU with AMD 3D V-Cache™,, an AMD® Radeon™ RX6950XT GPU, with 64 GB (2x32GB) at DDR4-3200 speed

[lunar anchor]

by a glance it seems like they got an early unit with channel imbalance

[long briar]

That's what I'm saying

the differences can literally be down to unit variance

[lunar anchor]

not to mention while they may be tuned different it doesnt really change the fact that both both are probably equally undetailed

[long briar]

you think hyperx tune anything.

take a takstar design, slap a mic on it and go

[echo canopy]

the alphas have much better imaging if thats what youre after

[long briar]

It's a headphone.

[lunar anchor]

they both have subpar imaging

[misty scarab]

The question is if the alpha is worth the 30 extra dollars

[long briar]

if you want imaging, get iems

They bypass your ear and are based on fr only

[lunar anchor]

and the difference isnt very wide. iems will out image basically anything in the sub 300 dollar price bracket

[echo canopy]

yeah but the cloud 2s are horrible compared to the cloud alphas

[lunar anchor]

this is also false

[misty scarab]

What is an IEM

[echo canopy]

in ear monitor. earbuds realy

[lunar anchor]

they are both not good, and are wholly comparable to one another, do you own both?

[long briar]

They bypass your pinna completely, makes IEMs a bit easier to tune for

[misty scarab]

I don't like in ear at all

[lunar anchor]

get a used pair of akgs or beyerdynamics

[misty scarab]

What

[lunar anchor]

headphones that are good

[long briar]

K612 your best bet, if you absolutely need a mic then ig cloud ii works

[misty scarab]

I only know AKG of those 2

[echo canopy]

They dont preform similarly at all. and it does not matter if i own both of them. They arent the same headset

[long briar]

Dt880 250ohm or 600ohm works too

[misty scarab]

I do need a microphone and it needs to be ~ 70-80 USD or less

[long briar]

can you get an mh751

[misty scarab]

Brand?

[lunar anchor]

beyerdynamic is more known by people in the industry they are sorta comprable to akg, but a bit worse in exchange for indistructible build quality

[long briar]

cooler master

[echo canopy]

AKG has gone to shit after samsung bought them and put their name on everything

[lunar anchor]

i happen to own both of them, and I can tell you that they are not the same yes, but are similar, and neither are very good

[misty scarab]

Unavailable on Amazon

[long briar]

Takstar gm200

[lunar anchor]

they still sell the headphones they used to make, and those are still excellent

please stop spreading misinformation

[misty scarab]

That's a microphone

[long briar]

galaxy buds aside from beans are just about the best tws you can get for android users. Your point?

[lunar anchor]

get moondrop chuu with inline mic its 20 dollars and will sound better then hyperx

[misty scarab]

Inline ?

[lunar anchor]

mic in cable

[long briar]

Nvm then, that's a tonor mic not the takstar headset, cloud ii will do okay

[summer folio]

& AKG famous for having non existing bass response.

[lunar anchor]

they are IEMs

[long briar]

No?

[misty scarab]

Re;

[summer folio]

Sony Xtra Bass Series, now were talking

[lunar anchor]

If you NEED a mic and headset, cloud 2s are not a bad option but if you can live with a cheapo mic getting a used pair of akgs or beyers will be far better

[echo canopy]

Their quality consistency is questionable cross product. Im not saying they dont make anything good.
Just dont look at/for the name AKG specifically anymore

[misty scarab]

Ew used

[lunar anchor]

they are famouse for being reference headphones if you mean, their bass response is entirely there

[long briar]

also k361/371 are post Samsung acquisition and basically the best closed backs under 500 you can get for 100 and 150 respectively...

[long briar]

Tf don't look at brand names at all

[misty scarab]

I have no other mic other than the one on the headset

[lunar anchor]

used audio gear is where its at, headphones dont get worse over time, and you could argue that with the recent craze of noise cancelling wireless over sound older headphones are more futureproof, also akg and beyer have solid build quality

[misty scarab]

If i were to buy one it would have to be in the budget with the headset

[long briar]

Sennheiser, Beyer, AKG all get their fame from a couple good headphones and a ton of garbage ones

[echo canopy]

AKGs do lack base but thats a byproduct of nearly all of them being open back

[misty scarab]

I don't buy used anymore

[lunar anchor]

i would get a cheapo mic dongle and a headphone

[long briar]

idk k612 driver headband wires are too tight so they're prone to snapping at the earcup swivel part

[lunar anchor]

your loss i guess, beyerdynamics used are amazing those things are indistructuble

[long briar]

it's that they're dynamic open backs. Not because they're open backs. Heard of planar?

[misty scarab]

Not my loss, i lost more buying used shit than i would've just buying new

[lunar anchor]

that was issue yes, but brokey wire very easy to notice cus it mean brokie headphone

[long briar]

"skill issue"

[lunar anchor]

use an app where you meet up with the person, try the thing to make sure it works

[long briar]

yes, I fixed one but it's served well ever since

[misty scarab]

I used marketplace

[long briar]

it's also relatively easy to fix as long as you have some amount of soldering experience

[misty scarab]

And there's no trying it if they don't let you

And I'm not driving across state lines just for headphones

[echo canopy]

Didnt assume we would even be mentioning planar due to how expensive they are.
If you're gonna consider them I dont think you would be in the LTT server

[lunar anchor]

idk man i still buy used and I can easily afford buying new, and especially with audio used and cosmetically new means new

[lunar anchor]

do you live in an area with a decent population

[misty scarab]

Define decent

[lunar anchor]

if so there are 100% some used sonys, beyers, and akgs nearby

[misty scarab]

What is "decent*

[lunar anchor]

100K plus people whithin 150 miles

[long briar]

#audio-tech and uh, hifiman (even tho I generally don't like their fit and tuning) make trying out planar relatively inexpensive

[misty scarab]

Hell no lmfao

[lunar anchor]

laughs in spent 6000 on susvara

[misty scarab]

I'm not driving 150 miles for headphones

[long briar]

you misunderstood

[lunar anchor]

i meant population density

are there 100k+ people within 150 miles of you

maybe to large, but like are you near a city

[misty scarab]

Too large and no I'm not near a city

[lunar anchor]

if so considering your in the us look up "beyerdynamic", and "akd" on craigslist

do it anyway cus it cant hurt, there are also the sony references that are good but im not reccomending them rn cus i dont know their long ass cryptography code

[misty scarab]

Pittsburgh is like 2 hours maybe but i don't feel like getting mugged

[long briar]

or if you're in Canada, maybe Kijiji

[long briar]

Sony has like 2 good IEMs and all their headphones kinda suck

[lunar anchor]

point being for 70 murican buckys you can find far far better

[long briar]

K361 my love

[misty scarab]

70 USD to get a New headset with a mic attached

[lunar anchor]

their reference cans arent half bad. and I think you mean their entire line of iems are good

[misty scarab]

And i can get today or with FREE 2 day shipping

[lunar anchor]

yeah 60 usd gets you better headphone, 10 usd gets you a mic

what do you use for a mic rn?

[misty scarab]

The one on my Logitechs

[long briar]

nahh, if IEMs by all their mdr ex type garbage then they have more garbage than good

[lunar anchor]

ahhhh no, i only consider their non ewaste as a product

the ewaste i dont call an iem

[long briar]

Ok fair

have you tried ier z1r before?

I want to sometime but apparently it's huge...

[misty scarab]

@lunar anchor

[misty scarab]

Not in Canada but I'm breathing their terrible air rn

[long briar]

LOL

[lunar anchor]

You can just keep using that as well no

I gtg though cya

[misty scarab]

No because my Logitechs audio is cutting out

I feel like you missed out on like 75% of the Convo

[long briar]

We both did lmao

[lunar anchor]

I did

Send me a dm I'll get back to you later I've got quite a bit of experience with audio gear haha

[long briar]

Yea most of it is kilobuck smh

[misty scarab]

I mean my conditions list is this
70-80 USD
Microphone included
Comfortable to wear for looong periods of time
Don't sound like a tin can
Can somewhat isolate the noise of my neighbors arguing about a divorce

[long briar]

I mean

[misty scarab]

Also need to add, aren't in ear

[long briar]

if it was me I'd find a cheap or free pair of speakers, grab a cheap amp and just play it louder than the noise

[misty scarab]

Ewww speakers

[tribal wyvern]

I was re watching extreme tech upgrade and I think Emily should get a upgrade to her build since she recently transition

[long briar]

?

[misty scarab]

I want more Ultimate Tech Upgrade

[long briar]

You know you many people ltt employs?

[tribal wyvern]

yeah but she used to go by a old name

[long briar]

Reruns if they ever come will happen much much later

[tribal wyvern]

so she should get a new $5000 upgrade imo

[long briar]

and so? she's still the same person

by that logic every person in jail who changes their name or gender no longer has a criminal record

[misty scarab]

I wonder how long I can go before i need an upgrade

5800x3d and 6950xt rn

[muted relic]

Oh yay. My GPU blocks the CMOS pins on my new motherboard.

[misty scarab]

How's the razer black shark 2 pink

[muted relic]

Guess I'm not gonna overclock my ram...

[tribal wyvern]

I think a line has been drawn between that a new tech upgrade

[muted relic]

Damn it. My ram is first generation DDR4 that runs at 2400mhz, but I could get it clocked to 2800 on my old board.

But that took a lotta timing tinkering, which needs lots of CMOS resets to find.

Noooooo I don't wanna buy new ram.

[long briar]

No, it is absolutely fair. just because Anthony changed his name and pronouns to Emily, that doesn't make her a different person to anyone

[misty scarab]

I also think a line was drawn

It's like when a teacher would ask "why did you do that" and you would respond like "johnny told me too" , then the teacher would say "well if johnny told you to jump off of a bridge or shove a cactus up your arse, would you do it?
",, When there's a clear line from throwing a paper aeroplane and jumping off of a bridge

[long briar]

if the reason they're being asked that question is because they did something very stupid, It is absolutely fair

[misty scarab]

No it's not fair

[tribal wyvern]

pls don't dead name them

[long briar]

In this case, while Anthony's name changed to Emily, she is still the same person.

The same physical being

[misty scarab]

Emily Young AMD Ultimate Tech Upgrade

[long briar]

wdym dead name

[misty scarab]

Referring to a trans or non-binary person by their old name

[tribal wyvern]

when she posted the video I got scared she started hating Linux, I breathed a sigh of relief after watching it lol

[long briar]

and since when is that an issue? I'm referring to their past.

[misty scarab]

Always love Linux

[gilded quest]

[misty scarab]

It's very rude to call someone by their old name after they change it :)

[tribal wyvern]

I mean I also use arch and collect a ton of plushies so in mine and her case there were bright red neon flashing signs that they and I are trans lmao

[long briar]

And in every video featuring Emily back then, they all have Anthony in the title. You think ltt will go and change em all?

[tribal wyvern]

if you watch her old intel extreme upgrade you can see a bunch of plushies

[misty scarab]

I have a LenOwO Thinkpad running Linux 😳😳

[molten drift]

As a trans woman this is a huge issue

[tribal wyvern]

ctrl+f

[tribal wyvern]

as a nonbinary transfeminine person (not fully comfortable being called a woman) I agree

[misty scarab]

As a human being with basic decency to respect people, i agree

[long briar]

the very vid that started this convo

[vital niche]

@long briar deadnaming is very traumatic to those who have it. Needless to say, this is lost on cis people (me included)

just changing ur legal name is different

Like Deadnaming Prince isnt a thing

[molten drift]

I'm not going to continue this conversation.. I'm already very annoyed at this. .

[long briar]

And when I said "Anthony changed his name and she's now Emily," am I wrong for saying that?

[vital niche]

good question

[misty scarab]

"They changed their/her name and they are now called Emily"

[molten drift]

You could have just as easily said Emily had a different name before they transitioned

[vital niche]

That doesn't work in the legal name only paradigm (cis)

that's not everyone's first thought

[long briar]

Suzi) Passive voice doesn't work on text and Tommy) Then in the actual context of the message, How is "they" any different from name dropping.

[vital niche]

you will always have deadnaming instances

just some ppl are transphobic and some are not

[misty scarab]

They is a pronoun not a name

[long briar]

they is substitute for a name

[misty scarab]

"They used to be called by a different name, however now they are called Emily"

[vital niche]

they as the singular pronoun is forgotten to be the one to use safely

for a lot of society, people were defined by who they married (for children)

[long briar]

then it would've been incorrect as Emily used to be he/him no?

anyways there's so many of these rules

y'all borderline gatekeeping yet trying to promote inclusivity, really isn't helping your own image.

[vital niche]

yeah, and it's mostly taintedby a few bad apples, like Mulvaney

Mulvaney was never a rep for the rainbow

[long briar]

I'm not, I don't support LGBTQ, but I will never hold it against anyone who does.

[vital niche]

Frickin 2-Spirit and Intersex is older than gender affirmative care

and they get added only in some contexts

[molten drift]

Well there's a solution

[long briar]

To me, for as long we're on the same planet there's no reason not to just at least respect each other

[tribal wyvern]

this is like saying "I dont support black people" it makes no logical sense

support doesnt mean attends pride festivals

[vital niche]

There is this term called Allyship

would you want to be that?

[long briar]

No clue what that is

[long briar]

I'll never promote it.

[vital niche]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_ally

One step away from transphobic and way past indifference

[long briar]

CBA to open Wiki

[misty scarab]

Gender affirming care has always been a thing

[vital niche]

shit got warshipped, just read it please

[long briar]

k I read the summary, my take is: I don't support LGBTQ. I don't like how it's being marketed as the next big thing in schools. But the people in it deserve to be respected like any other human being

[vital niche]

Ah ok, this is a misunderstood protect the children argument

I'm not adolescent rainbow so I cant speak on this

[misty scarab]

Except it's not being marketed as the next big thing

[mint yacht]

If you could find out what IC your RAM is there'll be a lot less trial and error
Also, you can hook up your case's reset switch to the Clear CMOS header

[tribal wyvern]

im going to reinstall linux becuase my install is scuffed

[misty scarab]

Which distro

[tribal wyvern]

finally fixed the overheating issue w my PC, which was dust related

[tribal wyvern]

considering im trans, guess

[long briar]

rip context

[misty scarab]

NyArch

[long briar]

it is. That's my entire problem with it

[tribal wyvern]

well close

[misty scarab]

It isn't

[vital niche]

Which right wing news media told u that

There is only awareness of it, not pushing it

nobody's sending anyone down the nurses office for some estradiol okay?

[slate tulip]

so, it's the next small thing? Some people will be happy to hear that

[tribal wyvern]

yeah its wildly hard to get lol

[long briar]

why is SexEd only taught in late elementary and onward

[vital niche]

christians

[tribal wyvern]

i dont personally wanna medically transition anyway hence why I dont feel comfortable labelling myself as fully MTF

[dire brook]

oh

[vital niche]

Fuck those christians, they held us back for so long

[slate tulip]

Fuck those christians
Are you buying me dinner first? ;)

[misty scarab]

My state doesn't require SexEd at all

[slate tulip]

or do you mean "those" christians, and not "all christians"?

[vital niche]

Well, only if we use the loophole method 😉

[long briar]

How is this statement any different from what Christians thought of lgbtq before

lgbtq just hates most religions in general

[slate tulip]

I could roleplay as a Mormon and someone can jumphump us 😂

[tribal wyvern]

i got the RGB ram from corsair B)

[mint yacht]

Ok, let's not

[slate tulip]

haha, okay

[long briar]

what if religions say lgbtq is wrong

[tribal wyvern]

this build was overkill in every way, I think total on everything I spent 2000 GBP

[vital niche]

bc christians and mormons are legitimately transphobic

[slate tulip]

so, how's them sportsballs?

[misty scarab]

Are the razer black shark 2 good

[tribal wyvern]

no

[long briar]

no.

[misty scarab]

The river hounds are knocked out

[misty scarab]

For what reason

[tribal wyvern]

if you want good audio, get from an audio brand like Sennheiser or Dan Clark

[misty scarab]

Never heard of them

[long briar]

DCA are compressed. Sennheiser has like, 5 good headphoens

[tribal wyvern]

which one?

[tribal wyvern]

idk chief I want the Aeon 2 really badly

[long briar]

Based on whose recc

[mint yacht]

They'd rather not be told that their existence is a sin
And they do not hate religion, they simply want the people that hate them for who they are to go away

[long briar]

that's not what the other guy said.

[tribal wyvern]

i am aware this is stupid

[vital niche]

The purpose of religion is to spread like a virus, and thusly they preach and hate

[misty scarab]

Not sure if you were hear earlier but my budget is 80 USD, i need to have a microphone included, need to be comfortable for long times wearing, needs to be NOT In Ear, and somewhat noise blocking so that i can block out the noise of my neighbors arguing about a divorce

[mint yacht]

And the other guy does not have a representative view

[long briar]

in what world does hate spread religion.

[slate tulip]

my line is "neopronouns" that infringe on my religious beliefs. I have zero problem calling you "she", "he", or "they" as you prefer - I'm not calling anyone "angelself", "godself", "dietyself", etc.

[tribal wyvern]

I would suggest investing more and picking up a HD 560S along w/ any shitty mic

[vital niche]

the western 'sinner' mindset

[tribal wyvern]

what about she/they

[long briar]

So because you're a sinner you must hate?

[misty scarab]

Can't afford any more, and 80 is already outrageous to spend on headphones imo

[vital niche]

yea like ae, aer is too far, fae is like WTF

[slate tulip]

confusing to mix them, but I'll try my best :)

[tribal wyvern]

just means instead of her use "they"

[mint yacht]

$80 will get you something like the HyperX Clouds and that's about as good as you'll get for headsets

[long briar]

...uhm you've got a long way to go... but in that case just go for Cloud ii IMO

[vital niche]

a lot of ppl disregard the look at ur own garden metaphor

[tribal wyvern]

or alternatively use both

[tribal wyvern]

hmmm, samson sr850 + shitty mic

[vital niche]

that is complicated

[misty scarab]

That's what I was looking at but i can't find any that have reasonable shipping times or are in a store within close to me

[long briar]

In fact Idon't know any religion that says "Hate one another for this is the right way to live"

[vital niche]

some people put they first then she @tribal wyvern

what then? there are no rules for this and a chance to offend anyone any second

[long briar]

ALSO this entire pronoun thing is so complicated I end up just calling based on assumption and they can correct me 😅

[vital niche]

and some people get butthurt bc there is no colored username for their rainbow and they yell 'CHECK PROFILE'

[mint yacht]

Taking offence at such a thing is more of a problem with that person

[tribal wyvern]

contrary to popular belief, if you accidentally call a trans person the wrong pronoun they wont get mad at you, they will just ask to kindly correct yourself

[vital niche]

but then 'muh gender dysphorias'

[slate tulip]

I just call everyone dude - according to the nickelodeon, everyone is a dude 😛

[misty scarab]

Godself isn't a neopronoun

Neopronouns are like Ze/Xe/Fae/ etc

[vital niche]

I got banned from a server for refusing to stop calling everyone dude.. it was wack

[misty scarab]

What server

[vital niche]

r/trees

[long briar]

"well you can tell me, or you can have me assume. I should not be putting more work than you trying to figure who you are"

[misty scarab]

Huh

I just call everyone che lul

[vital niche]

should put that in my bio LOL

[tribal wyvern]

not stricitly a requirement, I dont have it really I just prefer to identify as a feminine nonbinary vs a guy

[slate tulip]

https://pronoun.fandom.com/wiki/Godself
https://pronouny.xyz/pronouns/60f13feb9fd41500135ee8e6

[vital niche]

yeah but how about Peyton that one time hahahaa

[long briar]

go right on ahead, I've been just living like this for ages

[mint yacht]

I just stick to they/them unless corrected lol
Simple as, will then stick to what they request

[misty scarab]

Needs to be updated because that's nounself not neos

[vital niche]

but thats too hard for random internet folk. esp for cis people

[misty scarab]

Che is just a term of endearment in second person

[slate tulip]

same. Seems to be pretty safe

[molten drift]

Because that's when people go into the change of life and that information is most useful then?

[misty scarab]

Third person I use they, but second person I'll say che

[mint yacht]

Then that's their problem to deal with and learn about

[misty scarab]

"Che, que vas a tomar?"

[tribal wyvern]

jesus christ the corsair ram visor preset is hurting my eyes

[long briar]

then why should kiddos younger learn abt lgbtq before they learn about their own bodies

[tribal wyvern]

yeah I have RGB ram so what

[stray apex]

Why should children learn about human relationships at all?

[mint yacht]

They aren't? I struggle to recall any information that LGBT anything was being taught in schools at such a young age
I mean sure, they're learning about the colours of the rainbow but that's not exactly related

[tribal wyvern]

in fair to me when I built this PC I had an insane budget that I could even build it when 3060 tis were 700 GBP

[stray apex]

Shall we ban all examples of romantic interaction between human in children's media?

[slate tulip]

eh. if you want to be called "she" instead of "he", that's my problem. If you want me to check your bio every 10 minutes or check some website because you constantly change your pronouns - sorry,that's a you issue. I don't have that kind of time

[vital niche]

Pride Month RAM

[molten drift]

When was the last time you were in school and actively observed this happening

[slate tulip]

and actually had a user join a server with that in their bio, I didn't make it up

[molten drift]

So 90% of Disney deal

[long briar]

perhaps it's just a school by school thing, but I know parents of kids around here about k-3 that have learned what lgbtq is

[long briar]

sexed starts at grade 5.

[tribal wyvern]

no i wanna go purple and pink to match my build

[molten drift]

How is it wrong to learn about it?

[vital niche]

THIS 100000%

[stray apex]

Yeah, Disney is disgusting
Showing our children adults holding hands

[misty scarab]

My state doesn't even require SexEd to be thought at all

[stray apex]

Even worse is when parents kiss in front of their children

Degenerate behavior

[mint yacht]

Oh I was just referring to they/them and no other pronouns lol
If someone's rolling a roulette about their pronouns and then getting offended about it, eeehhhhhh yeah that's on them lol

[molten drift]

-simpsons think of the children gif but I have no embed perms- /s

[misty scarab]

Gender fluid exists

[slate tulip]

exactly. I think it's a pretty reasonable line, lol

[molten drift]

Straight to jail/s

[slate tulip]

"they" exists...

[vital niche]

eh. if you want to be called "she" instead of "he", that's my problem. If you want me to check your bio every 10 minutes or check some website because you constantly change your pronouns - sorry,that's a you issue. I don't have that kind of time

• Gorian

Well stated

[misty scarab]

Not denying that

[mint yacht]

It definitely does
But it's more of a human interaction thing at that point
Yes you can be accommodated for, but you cannot expect the other person to do so on a minute-by-minute basis

[long briar]

since LGBTQ is all about how ones body can intimately interact with another body, IMO it should be taught or brought to light after they get to know their own bodies first.

[stray apex]

Those aren't even real people lol

[slate tulip]

count how many people are currently chatting and how fast chat is movie. And for every single user, you have to check their bio or a link in their bio to get their current pronoun. Even in computers we cache things instead of updating every second

[vital niche]

Intersex and NB is not

[slate tulip]

humans do that to. You interact with me, and you learn "Gorian goes by he. I'll remember that next time I interact with them" and then you don't check again

[stray apex]

How lmao
Should children be taught that it's unnatural to love someone of the same gender?

[mint yacht]

I would like to think that LGBTQ is more about relationships rather than uh, bodily interactions lol

[molten drift]

That is not even close... LGBTQIA+ is about who you are. It is not specifically about intimacy at all.

[long briar]

I don't think it should be taught at all until later on. Which is the case for our curriculum (grade 7 onwards)

[molten drift]

I would love to know how me being a a T has anything to do with intimacy?

[slate tulip]

"Suzie goes by she/her. When I engage her in conversation, I'll use those pronouns" and then it's mostly subconscious. Conversation would be ridiculous if you had to check every user everytime you wanted to send a message

[long briar]

ooo fair.

[stray apex]

Okay, so we should also avoid straight relationships, no?

[echo canopy]

Thats why everyone is dude to me

[long briar]

At the very beginning absolutely.

[mint yacht]

Dude is my favourite pronoun

[stray apex]

Why?
Should children not be taught what love is?

[vital niche]

yeah we have valentines day in class in middle school @long briar

[mint yacht]

(Also fwiw lmao there's so much filter evasion but it's very appropriate to the discussion and everyone is behaving)

[long briar]

yeaaa

bot is deleting like 3 messages per minute rn

[stray apex]

How is lgbtq not filtered but it's bad if I remove the q

[misty scarab]

I use dude a lot too but i prefer "che"

[vital niche]

even if you know the gender, it's dude to me, I just dont give a shit

[misty scarab]

Just like the G is filtered

[molten drift]

I really want to know what me being a t has to do anything with intimacy nex gen you haven't elaborated in your point

[stray apex]

Warship is just super inclusive ig

[mint yacht]

We are looking into it and by looking into it I mean we're discussion if the filter will be changed soon

[long briar]

ok well, that's because it's been used more in a derogatory context than anything else

unfortunately

[slate tulip]

I'm straight, and not attracted to non-cis people. But at the end of the day, unless someone is thinking about consenting to intimate relationships with me, their orientation or transitional status is of no concern to me

[vital niche]

I did discord dating once and was surprised by a ||trap||

[long briar]

Y'all are gonna have to take my word for it that while I do not promote or support the idea of changing your identity (there's exceptions), I will never hold their identity against them. Which is the entire point here...

[misty scarab]

I'm the G in LGBTQ and i would no problem dating a trans man (FtM), it would be the same as a cis man, because they're both men

[molten drift]

You realize that's contradictory...

[mint yacht]

Guacamole?

[echo canopy]

You can not like something and still not be a ass

[vital niche]

I identify as a man who watches MCU movies

[misty scarab]

Yes I'm a lettuce guacamole bacon tomato and quail sandwich

[molten drift]

I've yet to see it on the topic in question

[long briar]

wait what is middle school for yall (age wise)

[misty scarab]

6-8 grade

Which is 11 to 13 usually

[vital niche]

er wait or was that grade school, idk I dont think I ever got any

[long briar]

for us it'd be grade 7-9, which is I think 12-15ish iirc?

[stray apex]

We do Valentine's day in elementary school

[vital niche]

awwwwww

[echo canopy]

cringe

[misty scarab]

I was 13 in 8th grade and 16 in junior year of high school

[stray apex]

Treating human relationships as taboo is cringe
And so is not letting children give each other cheap candy

[vital niche]

I hated necco wafers

[long briar]

but notice how people just give it to others regardless of gender. Some may call it naive but I think it's just innocence that deserves to be left alone until later.

[mint yacht]

In the UK we have primary school and secondary school, the former from 5 to 12 ish, the latter from 12 to 17 ish
I think your middle school maps to most of secondary school and a little bit of primary school for us

[long briar]

ic.

[stray apex]

?
Children don't feel attraction, that doesn't mean you shouldn't teach them what it is

[misty scarab]

7-9 is old middle school it's different now

[echo canopy]

Human relationships are not taboo. Just the idea of having one as close as that is cringe to me. Especially how in some cases scaring it can be to some children

[misty scarab]

In my state
Elementary was K-6
Middle was 7-9
Highschool was 10-12

But now it goes like this
Elementary is K-5
Middle is 6-8
Highschool is 9-12

[mint yacht]

How many children run around having a crush lol

[stray apex]

What do you even do for Valentine's day at school
In elementary and middle school everyone just gives each other cheap candy and cards

[vital niche]

ikr?

[misty scarab]

Children meaning minors or?

[long briar]

back in the day, we all gave stuff like ferro rocher and kisses lmao...

[mint yacht]

Yeah I suppose

[misty scarab]

If you say all minors are children than that means someone who's 17 is a child because they aren't an adult

[stray apex]

Legally, yeah

[long briar]

Do they still call it crush in older people?

[misty scarab]

But you can separate children from adolescent from teens, etc

[long briar]

that'd be youth but

[vital niche]

we call it like vs like like

[mint yacht]

I think context defines what I said a little better than I currently could

[long briar]

I got it

[misty scarab]

Yeah context can apply too

[echo canopy]

Thats fine but its with the idea of "that special person" behind it.
The action itself isn't bad but the reason behind it

[gilded forge]

https://i.imgur.com/2RCJCFY.png you're welcome.

[long briar]

ok so I'm not out of touch lmao... I'm Chinese a lot of these things are actually new to me

[vital niche]

ah, prevent chafing with a bear

[long briar]

yk, this is the first conversation on this topic I've ever seen remain relatively civil

[vital niche]

ah yeah, same I'm Indian it's hard for me too

[stray apex]

Romantic relationships are literally one of the foundational elements of human culture
Either rewrite culture to suit your puritanism or teach children about it

[sonic spruce]

What’s the sub $50 usd pc case, must fit z690p mobo

[echo canopy]

"like vs like like" depends from person to person. I talk to single people in thir 40-60s (family) and they still refer to their crushes as crushes

[vital niche]

nonwhite ppl always have it the hardest with rainbow discussions @long briar

[long briar]

I guess so

[vital niche]

our parents never understood noncis shit

my parents were ARRANGED

[long briar]

I see. But the meaning generally stays the same regardless of age

[mint yacht]

yeah same lmao

[urban thistle]

Got the new username

[echo canopy]

Its important to know about but not exactly partake

[misty scarab]

My parents are more traditional so I've gotten my fair share of chanclas but they're more understanding now a days

[stray apex]

Sure?
An excuse to eat candy is not exactly what I would call intense romantic relationships

[long briar]

LMAO

[gilded forge]

https://i.imgur.com/8fsmsa1.png

[stray apex]

What do you even think we do for Valentine's in elementary school

[gilded forge]

thank you warship

[slate tulip]

I think it's an important topic. If you don't give people an opportunity to learn, then you breed resentment, and enemies

[echo canopy]

to flirt or crush on. Yeah, kids did it even then

[stray apex]

Sure?
literally every school requires that you give everyone in your class the same thing, or nothing at all

[slate tulip]

if you just tell people "It's not my job to educate you!" and then insult them, you aren't encouraging them to learn, you are just sending them directly into the arms of bigots who will make them feel better, and they'll learn and then pass on bigoted behaviour

[misty scarab]

I remember always being uncomfortable when my school did the valentines thing cause i always wanted to give the candy or card thing to a boy but like it wouldn't have went down too well (this was way before Windsor, or Obegerfell)

[vital niche]

try that with shiny new egg crackers

[stray apex]

On the other hand, people are not obligated to put up with bigoted opinions

[gilded forge]

make cardboard mailboxes and make shit out of construction paper before confessing true love to some kid in the class.

[slate tulip]

I have no clue what this means, lol

[echo canopy]

Nope. In my schools specifically you could "buy" candy for someone else. Altho most people did it anonymously

[long briar]

Oh God who even says bigoted

[vital niche]

ppl dont even know the bigoted opinions

[stray apex]

See, that's not a thing in the US

[long briar]

also the term bigot is pretty funny...

[echo canopy]

I LIVE IN THE US

[gilded forge]

this is hilarious

[slate tulip]

no one is obligated to do anything - but regardless of your obligations (or lack thereof), there's still consequences for your actions

[misty scarab]

Yes it is

[vital niche]

bigot vs a monogot

[stray apex]

Huh
Might just be the west coast, then

[echo canopy]

East

[stray apex]

This is why the west coast is better

[misty scarab]

It's not but ok

[long briar]

OH!!!! I heard about this. Where you pay like a dollar or so, write their name and room number on a small tag and a little note, then the organizing team would tie it to a piece of candy and deliver it to the person?

[echo canopy]

Sure

[stray apex]

Also we get the wan show at something resembling a reasonable time

[slate tulip]

a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
I mean, it's pretty spot-on term....

[echo canopy]

Not exactly that but yes

[mint yacht]

I should actually watch WAN shows rather than ignoring them all the time lol

[vital niche]

obstinately or unreasonably attached
does not apply to ignorance
which is a lot of nonwhite ppl

[stray apex]

They're interesting sometimes

[slate tulip]

I disagree. If you don't know why you believe something, that's unreasonable imo

[long briar]

how did they become 4 hours long

[vital niche]

I mean, do you see trans ppl in Africa?

[echo canopy]

what a wild card

[mint yacht]

Rambling and forgetting that they've a timer

[stray apex]

Isn't Africa largely still pretty homophobic

[slate tulip]

aren't ALL publicly available shows a "Wide Area Network Show"?

[long briar]

Ah. I haven't watched in a while

ever since they hit 3 I've been busy since

[echo canopy]

very, and racist for a specific kind of what most americans would refer to as just "black" as well

[vital niche]

the ah nus is eleeecked

[mint yacht]

Because previously it was mostly used in a derogatory sense

[long briar]

it's been used more derogatory than anything else

[mint yacht]

And so it was added to the filter a while back

[vital niche]

GOD, there I used it

[long briar]

it just so happened that this is the one conversation where people weren't flaming each other

[mint yacht]

Ok this time be careful about evading the filter

[gilded forge]

yes i cant be pinged now

[stray apex]

Do you think there are children on discord too young to remember g being commonly used as an insult

[gilded forge]

which is cool

[long briar]

@gilded forge smh

[gilded forge]

damnit

[vital niche]

I think that's a good thing

[long briar]

LMAOOOO

[mint yacht]

I don't want to imagine that and I'm not even '''''old'''''

[echo canopy]

Pings are actually your user UI in text and your name in it is client side "sugar"