public-chat

[full fossil]

yes.

[verbal token]

The message in question

[teal estuary]

no, send it to me

[pure olive]

Send me the money

[karmic flame]

share the wealth coop

[full fossil]

No meeee

[pure olive]

Bro what

[teal estuary]

is that a new phrase for warship?

[full fossil]

Oh Damn

could send it here

[pure olive]

nono spot

Bros grasping at straws lmfao

[graceful burrow]

Maybe #off-topic tbh

[teal estuary]

if they aren't drunk/high, they are doing a good job looking like it

[graceful burrow]

Go argue about veganism there

[karmic flame]

they just need a moment

[teal estuary]

heh, they've been muted

[pure olive]

@vapid smelt rn

[graceful burrow]

Can you post good ones thanks

[full fossil]

seems right.

[verbal token]

I can't because I don't have media permissions, and you are not allowed to share PDFs of research papers because technically they are published materials which would be illegal. (There are workarounds that are legal, hence the move to DMs)

[full fossil]

isn't about veganism, but appreciate it

[full fossil]

send it in DMs

[graceful burrow]

That's what started it
Either way it's not related to ltt, but appreciate it

[full fossil]

it was actually e-waste

[graceful burrow]

Ewaste these nuts

[full fossil]

okay, please put your balls in a chinese land fill

[graceful burrow]

If you'd like we can also take this to dms

[verbal token]

(The original conversation)

If someone wants to start a group DM, I will talk in there

[vapid smelt]

<@&750150305383186585>

[verbal token]

Hey, please read #rules

[dire sierra]

ight sorry guys
forgot about that

[sonic spruce]

Didn’t LTT make a video on nano cell tv?

And what nano cell is?

[graceful burrow]

have you tried googling ltt nano cell

[vapid smelt]

idk that seems too crazy of a idea

[graceful burrow]

i know i'm so nuts and out of the box

[kindred hornet]

The Labs will be testing monitors, right? Any even VAGUE clue as to when we'll get monitor round ups? It's extremely overwhelming trying to choose one and I might just use the garbage monitor I have for now until LTT tells me what to buy if it's just like, a couple months not like, a couple years lol

[vapid zephyr]

I'm fairly certain they mentioned monitor testing yes

[kindred hornet]

Yeah, I feel like they did, tho I'm not positive. Will labs be up and posting monitor reviews soon?

[rare hill]

just got a framework laptop

[kindred hornet]

Nice, Trolly!

[vapid smelt]

https://www.techspot.com/reviews/monitors/ https://www.rtings.com/monitor

[kindred hornet]

Are those listicles or actually good lists tho? Lol

[vapid smelt]

real test with real equipment

[quaint quartz]

I need help

My instagram got hacked so how do I get it back. When I try and submitting a video to get it back it says it can’t be confirmed

[vapid smelt]

what a noob

[quaint quartz]

Seriously I need help

[kindred hornet]

That's harsh. Relax.

[graceful burrow]

Contact Instagram what are we supposed to do

[kindred hornet]

I don't know the answer, but I hope you get it sorted. I'd do what aldonist said, contact Instagram

[quaint quartz]

I tried calling them and it told me to do what I already did that didn’t work

[kindred hornet]

Call back and say you did that and ask what to do next

[graceful burrow]

Call them and tell them that

I still don't know what we're supposed to do in this situation

We can't unhack you

[kindred hornet]

Our community is big enough we could probably buy like a group DeLorean between all of us

[quaint quartz]

It’s an automated message system

[quaint quartz]

I was just looking for advice

[kindred hornet]

They probably have an email address too. Or a "press this number to talk to a human" or something

[graceful burrow]

I be giving advice

[quaint quartz]

I emailed their support email but no number to talk to a real human

[kindred hornet]

Hopefully they respond to the email. How long has it been in business days?

[quaint quartz]

Mark Zuckerberg don’t like human interaction

[quaint quartz]

It happened like 45 minutes ago

[kindred hornet]

True, I forgot Meta bought Instagram. Maybe just make a new account

[kindred hornet]

Yeah, gjve it time, they'll probably email back

[quaint quartz]

I already did but I’m not setting it up until it’s for sure that I’ve lost it

Cause I have so much stuff on it like from sports and all that stuff

[kindred hornet]

If they were a normal non-facebook company, T least

[kindred hornet]

Yeah, it always sucks when something you've put a lot of yourself into goes up into smoke. Sorry man. Hope their email support helps you

[quaint quartz]

Same

[low rain]

He. It wrong tho

[wide seal]

Hey guys is the newest wan show not uploaded yet

[manic torrent]

Your instagram did not get hacked. your poor security practises means the credentials were able to be derived

[graceful burrow]

Did you even look

[manic torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/tried-nothing-flanders-out-of-gif-9662944

[graceful burrow]

I searched ltt on YouTube and it was literally the first video

I mean literally the first

[vapid smelt]

https://www.floatplane.com/post/80IhxKsnqj

[verbal token]

I am one of the three people who listen to the RSS feed, and I was so upset when the ads changed.

[wide seal]

Sorry, so the youtube app on my TV didn't refresh properly so I was searching for it. I even tried refreshing the app and it wasn't there. I restarted it and now it's there. That's entirely my fault. Thanks guys.

[graceful burrow]

If I could bold and italicize literally even more I would

[manic torrent]

red circle

[verbal token]

Aw, for some reason markdown is blocked

[graceful burrow]

Based

[wide seal]

That's on me and I deserve it

[verbal token]

Just send a message containing exactly # BOLD and nothing else, and you will see

[wide seal]

That's on me I'm an idiot

[manic torrent]

Setup my wifi antennas properly. this is ridiculous.

[sonic spruce]

Yes

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/i-highly-doubt-that-alex-moffat-saturday-night-live-doubt-that-doubt-it-gif-21648148

[full fossil]

using an old ass laptop to hold me over until my new pc is complete; it's understandably slow.

[vapid smelt]

does it have a ssd?

[full fossil]

no

no thunderbolt port, optical drive, still uses a pentium, 500 GB hard drive, etc

speed

kinda hitting windows 10 with Tron rn before I get that other thing out to do a goofy activation

[verbal token]

What is Tron?

[full fossil]

debloats

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9szn1QQfas

[full fossil]

no

[verbal token]

No, I asked “What” is Tron, not “Who” is Tron.

[verbal token]

Sorry?

[full fossil]

it's a set of scripts that try to debloat windows as much as possible

[verbal token]

Ah

[full fossil]

takes hours though

a couple to up to double digits

[verbal token]

Why? Is there that much stuff, or that hard to remove?

[full fossil]

been four hours so far considering this laptop is dogshit, though it's not a main laptop

[full fossil]

windows 10 is a mess lol

cant rlly explain well

[verbal token]

Glad I was too broke to buy Windows when I got into technology

[vapid smelt]

Windows is free to use and download

[verbal token]

Actually, I don’t think that was the reason

[sonic spruce]

Windows 95?

I know you had to pay for windows in the early days otherwise use linux

Now you just get a watermark

[verbal token]

I couldn’t get Windows 10 to run on an x86 emulator written in JavaScript on an iPad, so I tried Linux instead and that’s how I got into computers

I remember my first experience using a Desktop was when I figured out how to make an X server run on an app which let you emulate an i686 CPU for iOS.

It was an iPhone 6s, running an app called iSH. I managed to create an X server, VNC into it, and then try to run Firefox for the first time.

[vapid smelt]

6700 xt

[verbal token]

I really wish I had access to a computer sooner, because I ended up giving myself RSI after a year of programming and drawing on that phone

[graceful burrow]

this gotta be the best joke of the day and today's been pretty damn solid

[verbal token]

When I did get a laptop, I basically had studied everything about computers without ever using one. I knew how a hard drive worked, but never used one!

[amber sedge]

For me a computer came first

I got my first PC in 2010 at the age of 4 lmao

it was the old family desktop it was an hp machine

[manic torrent]

I used a computer at a similar age but it was an exidy sorceror, with a 4mhz cpu

[verbal token]

Man, if only I used a computer as a child. Then I wouldn’t be so weird. I mean, I never learned QWERTY because I made the mental choice to use DVORAK before I even touched the keyboard.

[amber sedge]

cause thats what my mom used and then my dad had his gaming pc

but from then on I had to use the family laptop

because my dad broke the pc when he tripped down the stairs when moving

killed the HDD and he was not gonna replace it

[manic torrent]

the irony is that dvorak isn't better enough to learn how to not use 99.999999% of computers 🙂

[verbal token]

Resume:

proficient in typing at speeds of 100 WPM*

[amber sedge]

I only know QWERTY because well thats all I ever knew of

I didn't know anything else existed until like 2017

[manic torrent]

my brother used dvorak.

[sonic spruce]

What’s the closest performance I can get to Ethernet that’s wireless?

[verbal token]

I chose it because of RSI actually. I gave myself damage and needed to go to the physiotherapist because of using Linux on a phone to learn Compsci 😂

[amber sedge]

WiFi 6E

[sonic spruce]

Besides being right next to the modem

[manic torrent]

closest? 6e is faster than gbE

[sonic spruce]

Should I use any devices also?

[amber sedge]

or WiFi 6 since 6E support is so rare

[vapid smelt]

a wireless wire

[verbal token]

Radio, if you are streaming audio

[sonic spruce]

Well I’m broke so wifi5e or 5 is best I got

[sonic spruce]

Gaming

[calm swan]

6700xt

[verbal token]

Or, Radio, if you are streaming video

[sonic spruce]

I’m sorry what?

[manic torrent]

on an aud $120 cheapo AP

[sonic spruce]

So like coaxial?

[amber sedge]

is joke

[verbal token]

Like a vacuum tube

[sonic spruce]

We pay $10 usd for 100mbps

[amber sedge]

no thats not radio

[vapid smelt]

a wireless wire

[amber sedge]

lmao

[sonic spruce]

I don’t think we have that

Dang

[manic torrent]

huh? I am talking about wifi not internet. That is from my laptop on the couch

[sonic spruce]

Can’t I use some special tp link device or something?

[verbal token]

Sure you do! They are the things that glow orange in your radio

[sonic spruce]

Or wifi extender

[sonic spruce]

I don’t have a radio?

[verbal token]

Correct!

[sonic spruce]

Not including car radios

[verbal token]

Next question

[sonic spruce]

Can you send me a link or photo of what you’re talking about?

[verbal token]

I can not send a photo

[manic torrent]

soooo "what is the best wifi that is wifi5, because I have that and no money"

[vapid smelt]

skill issue

[sonic spruce]

DMs?

[verbal token]

Why is there a lead next to my name?

[manic torrent]

noob

[graceful burrow]

no you left out a crucial part
"what is the best wifi that is wifi 5 and also only 100mpbs because that's all i have"

so like
what's the question
you already know what you got

that's the best
thats what you got

[verbal token]

*lead

*leaf

[graceful burrow]

hudder you doin alright?

[verbal token]

I will DM it to you

[graceful burrow]

that's a mistake

hope you like being their personal tech support

[verbal token]

I actually do enjoy helping people

[graceful burrow]

no you dont get it

[verbal token]

Is there something about them in specific?

[graceful burrow]

you'll see, i'll leave you to it

[manic torrent]

I don't accept DMs from people I don't know

[vapid smelt]

redish is a leech

[manic torrent]

a limpet

[verbal token]

I probably have hundreds of people who ask me for tech support, so I don’t mind

[graceful burrow]

like i said, you'll see

[verbal token]

Would someone be able to send the image for me in this channel?

[manic torrent]

can you help me? I need a python implementation of home assistants websockets api so I can subscribe to events

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/no-way-dude-no-oh-bugs-bunny-bugs-gif-22941840

[graceful burrow]

ive seen your github you're more than capable

[manic torrent]

oh I can do it, no question

[verbal token]

You see, the trick is to speak in paragraphs on Discord so when you use ChatGPT to auto reply to DMs, they think it’s you 😉

[graceful burrow]

i bought an arduino pro micro from microcenter the other day and cant find the damn thing why do they make them so small

[manic torrent]

I keep all mine in the same place. I keep stock of the ones I use

[graceful burrow]

i have more than a few pi picos

i need to use for something

[manic torrent]

I have one

[graceful burrow]

i have over ten

[verbal token]

I mean, your loss considering I have two cool 0ms delay monitors in that photo

[vapid smelt]

crts or oled?

[manic torrent]

I lost control

[verbal token]

For shame

[verbal token]

CRTs

[vapid smelt]

crts are hot not cool

[verbal token]

Lol

One is built in to my radio, hence the photo of it

It sits next to my other CRT and my ThinkPad

[gilded quest]

Lies. You clearly have it right there.

[sand moth]

i think that was past tense. he had lost it, now he found it

[sonic spruce]

No dm?

[graceful burrow]

BASED

[sonic spruce]

This is the first question in like 20 days

[vapid smelt]

[sonic spruce]

I did not say that

[vapid smelt]

IDK it looks like you did

[sharp axle]

Does anybody know if it’s smart to plug in a mini fridge in the same outlet as my tv and ps5?

[lunar anchor]

depends on your breaker

but if your house has a good electrical system your breaker should pop if you draw too much power

[sharp axle]

I have no clue. I live in an apartment.

[lunar anchor]

ask the building people then, id guess that it should be safe but i dont know where you live

as an example tho if I were to try and draw too much power from a part of my grid, my breaker would pop and id have to go reset it but everthing would be safe

[sharp axle]

Becaus I have a power surge in the bottom of the outlet and then the top one I would put mini fridge but I don’t wanna cause either a fire or it to just go boom

[lunar anchor]

tho like apartments are often wired in a way where your entire space is on the same part of the system from what i hear

[lunar anchor]

the danger isnt to your stuff, its to the stuff behind the wall

again tho im not qualified to give you this type of advice ask someone in your area who actually knows if your scarfed

[sacred fable]

so if i found not linus using his name on a social media site to promote not linus things using the LTT name how would i go about reporting that or should i just let it be

[graceful burrow]

report it to the platform

[sacred fable]

k thanks

[wide ether]

a

[near nymph]

Hey any Canadians running a nonprofit in BC?

Preferably in the lower mainland?

[manic torrent]

        pipewire: [0, .08,.10, .15, .19 ,.31, .45, .51, .57, .68,  .83, 1.00]

aw yeah. Now the volume is dB based rather than 0-100, which is much better.

[digital dock]

Mini fridges don't use alot of wattage, 300 for start up then like... 100watt while running

[remote idol]

Do akg cables tend to break or am I just unlucky?

[slim creek]

nonprofit what????

[near nymph]

I need to get volunteer hours lmfao for someone

[slim creek]

what country?

[near nymph]

Canada... I mean other countries may work

[slim creek]

where in canada

[near nymph]

BC. I mean he can do remote volunteer work i guess

[slim creek]

nice

[slim creek]

is richmond too far for you?

[near nymph]

Nope... well it is... but dont rly have a choice. need it urgently

lol

[slim creek]

go to icanhelprichmond dot ca

I was just given this site this morning lol

[near nymph]

oh...

Yeah... Thats gonna take some time...to get a position.

[slim creek]

I mean if you're in the same school as me I can help

[near nymph]

My little bro is in high school and well he aint graduating if i dont get him hours. because he's a goof ball and waited for last minute

[slim creek]

I know a teacher who has a list of every volunteer opertunity

[near nymph]

any in Burnaby or Coquitlam? lol or the tri cities?

[slim creek]

idk I never asked for the hours

finished mine long ago

[near nymph]

Dunno. I'm currently asking my industry connections in the Fraser Valley and chucking my little brother there for a few days to get him hours i guess lol

[slim creek]

he has like 3-4 weeks left of school right?

if he does then he can use the site

[near nymph]

I think so... yeah

[slim creek]

just apply him to all of the opportunities

[near nymph]

But he needs to submit volunteer hours like... before commencement or whatever that thing is called for graduation

which is like the 17th?

[slim creek]

yeah 13 days its fine

apply him to all of them

he's bound to get one in a week

have you heard of the new minimum wage?

[near nymph]

I got mine at FreeGeek and Covenant House

[near nymph]

yeah... It's harder to slave people away

[slim creek]

mhm

[near nymph]

I slept on concrete to raise awareness with Covenant House. 12hrs for that... then I did abit at FreeGeek Vancouver before they shut down... and a few other small shit around the school

[slim creek]

damn

[near nymph]

I've done some weird shit for volunteer hours.

[slim creek]

I kinda cheesed the whole thing

[near nymph]

Then I was told at the very end everyone dont need volunteer hours because covid

[slim creek]

dad hired me

[near nymph]

Oh... I considered hiring my little brother. Didn't wanna deal with Payroll paperwork

Too much effort

[slim creek]

my dad is goated for doing all the paperwork for the whole family

my sister is 20 and does not know how to do taxes

[near nymph]

Taxes are easy

WealthSimple Tax. Slap in a few things. Bamn done

[slim creek]

even I don't do them

more like hiring an accountant

for free

[keen shore]

How's Canada

[near nymph]

Canada aint bad... it's just fucked

[slim creek]

everything is taxes and substances are decriminalized

[keen shore]

I'm trying to join us mil

[slim creek]

free healthcare is a lie

[keen shore]

Do you still talk to superfish or any of the New Zealanders

A lot of them worked for the New Zealand forces

This guy was sent to us

[slim creek]

I usually shutdown my pc before doing that. I had a few power outages while my pc was on but I got no damage

[keen shore]

If you aren't aware you didn't actually answer whether they should or should not unplug it before or after turning off the Supply

I'm sure you did that on purpose though

You must have sent that guy here

[keen shore]

Goodnight pasty Canadian

[bold echo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/14154lq/dont_let_reddit_kill_3rd_party_apps/ please show some love to this post

[gentle slate]

Yall got any tips on calibrating my monitor? It seems fine, but in games that aske me to calibrate the gamma, the image is either always visible or the game too dark

[velvet marsh]

Probably not great contrast

[gentle slate]

tbh can't say the monitor is bad.

Its better than what my laptop has.

https://i.imgur.com/QdXrFnC.png

1000:1 I assume

[wispy marsh]

Use windows hdr calibration and leave auto hdr on

[gentle slate]

idek if this thing even has auto hdr

[dull granite]

lmao

[wispy marsh]

You can adjust the brightness of the overall OS using settings

Autohdr is in win11 atm

Lol thats the specifications of typical budget monitor

[gentle slate]

how the fuck does my laptop have a worse screen than a budget monitor

[wispy marsh]

Depends on how cheap it is

I reckon laptops 1.5k> usually have the bog standard tn/ips 250nits 28~60hz screens

The only exceptions are apple's

I don't know how they managed to fit a good oled screen within that pricing

[fossil frost]

because they control the supply chain on all of it, and force exclusivity contracts, and buy HUGE bulk from the same manufacturer, and are very manipulative... so the actual cost of macbooks is quite low compared to what you end up paying

[fossil frost]

its also only a 13.6" screen on that one, the same laptop with a 16" screen costs about 700 more, and the only difference is the screen

[wispy marsh]

This is actually amazing value for anyone who can daily drive a mac

[stray apex]

don't think apple has OLED macs?

they do have miniLED, but I think they actually bought a microLED company so it's possible that they're using their own display designs or something

[dull granite]

cheapends on how depend it is

[wispy marsh]

There's a current macbook air with 16"?

[stray apex]

no

I think an m2 15 is rumored though
guess we'll find out today

[wispy marsh]

I can't attend it

It's past midnight for me

[wary summit]

mornin

[wary summit]

Apple: Casualy buys 400 companies in a year

[cold fog]

Who wants to make a whatsapp group about thunder cars?

[wary summit]

THE FIRST PIN IN 3 YEARS!!!

[rapid atlas]

hello people, a good PC Alim 650Watt seasonic ??

Something very stable, please, it is for a server.

[manic torrent]

What?

[rapid atlas]

Hello hardwareBob, what are the rating for Seasonic Focus GX 650W Power Supply ? I don't have tested this alim before, and I need to installe it on my cluster ode for my supercomputer

[manic torrent]

I mean, the specs are like.... On the seasonic website

And if you have a 650W psu, and you're asking about it here, like this, you don't have a supercomputer

[rapid atlas]

😄

[rapid atlas]

Man, you don't know what is a Beowolf ? And if I am asking it is because I need a work horse for 20 years, normally I buy one unit and test it for a year before going big and buy the other nodes, but my normal alim is out of stock, so I am seeking quality advise

[young root]

i love when i'm served ads for shit i'll never interact with

sometimes i interact with ads that in no way relate to me to make the money companies throw at me even more wasted

[elfin iron]

I'm back, but only because I have a meme

Where should I share it?

[past egret]

no where

[elfin iron]

it's an LTT related meme.

[past egret]

same answer

[elfin iron]

[wispy marsh]

[slim mirage]

ISP gave me 100mbps upload compared to the 50mbps previous for free pretty epic I think that's all of virgin media in the UK

High latency and no ipv6 support but slay

[fossil frost]

high latency? really? i get less than 6ms ping on VM

[slim mirage]

Really what hub do you have

[fossil frost]

hub4. i had 11ms with my old hub3

[slim mirage]

I get roughly 20ms average usually around 30 seems to be a lot lower since this upgrade

@fossil frost you might actually just be closer the the cabinet changing it from coax to fiber or the area you are in isn't as busy idk

[fossil frost]

the cabinet is across the road from me, and im in wigan, VMs former HQ town from when they were telewest

[slim mirage]

Lmao so your a lucky bugger then

[fossil frost]

cabinet is about 20 metres from me 😄

[slim mirage]

Did you get the upload upgrade?

[slim barn]

Same increase here. I get decent pings though.

Got the email a few days ago and speedtest was showing it then. Real world wise only used it yesterday when uploading to YT. Made a massive difference.

[fossil frost]

i remember when i first started out in web development, and production web servers were JUST moving from 10mbit upstream to 100mbit upstream 😄

[full fossil]

getting my sis into politics early, 7 years old is a good age 👍

[slim barn]

Any particular party? Or just overall?

[fossil frost]

you are supposed to teach them about politics, and then let them make up their own mind

[dusty rune]

teaching them about politics at 7 years old is uh interesting

[slim barn]

Yes. If only it worked that way and people weren't biased towards one party or another....

[fossil frost]

if only proportional representation was a thing... but it never will be, because that would mean nobody ever having a controlling party, and all politicians having to work together for the good of the people, instead of working for the good of themselves

[full fossil]

yes she is learning very well

[wary summit]

hate America, the government

[full fossil]

I am not american

[full fossil]

where ya from

[full fossil]

Turkey

[slim barn]

No one's perfect.

[oak kindle]

what do you mean proportional representation here

[fossil frost]

if you get X% of the votes within an area, your party gets X% of the seats... rather than first past the post is the winner of an area... ie. 51% is enough to control ALL the seats associated with an area, even though you do not represent 49% of the people there

[summer folio]

1337!

[unique crow]

im i good with rx 580 and a i5 2400?

[upper gyro]

they are in similar tiers, sure

[wispy marsh]

Yeah

My brother used to have RX480 + 4-core 2600

[oak kindle]

ew

[wispy marsh]

They are in similar tiers

[dusty rune]

depends what you mean by good

[wispy marsh]

Usable for gaming, yes

[cursive axle]

If you can get it cheap enough it’s for sure a good buy

[inland sleet]

Please could someone view my ticket I made in tech support I rlly need help 😂

[cursive axle]

Cheap as in less then $100 for both

[deep niche]

could someone help me

[bitter pine]

With what

[glacial sand]

My taxi driver is absolutely fucking mental

In a bad way

[night linden]

I think my teacher is the only teacher in the world to give homework during the final exam

[glacial sand]

Yea she is mental

[night linden]

he*

[glacial sand]

DiD yOu JusT ASsuMe thEiR genDEr!?!?

[full fossil]

guys

[glacial sand]

Ban mods fr

[full fossil]

its so hot here

help me please

[night linden]

okay wait wait

i have a 1000 IQ idea that i did last night

[glacial sand]

Have you seen the xqc video where they say what does the c in cia stand for and he says secret

[night linden]

so remember the LTT video where they used a green tent and a duct to run PC heat out of a window?

Well basically what you're gonna wanna do is recreate that, but budget version
it works EXTREMELY WELL

so here's what you do, open the top half of your window since heat rises, then stack some stuff, like your dirty clothes hamper or something to put a fan on top, point the fan through the window and turn it on, and close your door

so because the door is closed, it will mostly only extract the heat from your room

and you may be wondering "wont that just make my room room temperature?"

and that's what I was wondering too, and actually the answer is no somehow.
My best guess is that the fan also throws your body heat out the window so you feel cold

But I did that last night with 2 fans.. and omg, it was THE BEST

seriously though, it will extract all of the heat out of your room with no issues (DISCLAIMER: only tested at night because that's when my PC has accumulated enough heat throughout the day to make it unbearable, and when i need my room to be cold, but im sweating so im just gonna try it now)

[manic torrent]

Thermal comfort is not simply temperature. Air flow, humidity, and a bunch of other things also affect it.

[night linden]

this isn't a science experiment

and ive just confirmed it works during the day (not as well, but it works)

[manic torrent]

What you're saying is - exhaust fans work to remove excess temperature, which ... yes 🙂

[night linden]

and it makes no sense how i feel cold, because in theory now it will just be dragging air from the rest of my house in my room

but im not gonna question it and just be happy

[manic torrent]

because air flow

[night linden]

ohhh

[manic torrent]

moving air = you feel cool. As long as it's not horribly humid.

[night linden]

that makes so much sense, my room is a PC case now

[full fossil]

pretty sure in like most months of the summer here even the blowing air is hot

[outer delta]

OpenAI’s ChatGPT now has an official app on iOS, wooooo!!! 🤯🤯

[night linden]

well the thing is

[full fossil]

like when you're in the car and peek your head out its just hot air

[night linden]

the air that is moving is room temperature, it's not outside hot air

now if i reverse the direction of the fan, oh that's stupid

im also using 3 fans to make the transfer more effective

[near nymph]

when ya reach a stage in your life when ya become lactose intolerant

[wispy marsh]

Dyson sells a mop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zEloSLoS4U

[night linden]

why don't they just sell a water safe vacuum

[night linden]

ASMR youtubers gonna start making mop cleaning videos

[wispy marsh]

Er

They don't trust their users with water when it comes to their electronics

[winged yarrow]

name a better trio than the hex girls

[winged yarrow]

Not sure consumer-level vacuums can be water safe

[night linden]

i just realized something really smart im accidentially doing

since my door is closed with my fan blowing air out of my room

[winged yarrow]

ooh a clickbaity intro, go on

[manic torrent]

you can buy them, they are cheap. They just aren't anywhere near as effective.

[night linden]

since hot air rises and most of the air will be coming from under my door, I'll be sure that I'm getting the coldest air flowing through my room

[manic torrent]

shop vac is like $50-100

[winged yarrow]

shop vac isn't water safe

[night linden]

and since my fan and window are up high, it will make sure the hot air is all removed

[winged yarrow]

It can suck up water, but the main vacuum part can't get wet

[pulsar violet]

3 hours till WWDC, which is hype

[winged yarrow]

Or at least not super duper wet

[pulsar violet]

Can’t wait for the new MAC Address

[night linden]

what?
oh the channel

[manic torrent]

.... it's a wet/dry vac.

[night linden]

I thought you meant a mac address

[pulsar violet]

Yea lol

[winged yarrow]

No, I mean like the machinery can't be submerged, but it can vacuum wet or dry, yes.

[manic torrent]

yeah but why do you care?

[winged yarrow]

That's what I think of when I think "water safe"

[manic torrent]

You think "can it be used literally underwater"

[winged yarrow]

Like IP67/8, yeah

[winged yarrow]

I guess I probably think that because the concept of the shop vac seems really common, so the phrase "water safe" doesn't make sense, even though it does.

But yeah @pulsar violet it's like water resistance vs water proofing

[pulsar violet]

Yea, I just deleted it cause my analogy sounded dumb

[winged yarrow]

you can get the screen of your phone wet but not the holes, like you can get the top of your car wet but not the bottom

Nah it makes sense

[manic torrent]

you absolutely can get the bottom of your car wet

[bitter thunder]

I have not slept and my brain is trying its best to not fall under a sleep slope

[winged yarrow]

Yeah but not submerged

[pulsar violet]

To a degree, electrical damage

[manic torrent]

.... actually 😉

[long briar]

LOL

[winged yarrow]

Well, that also depends on the car I guess

[fossil frost]

if the top of your car is submerged, you either have the bottom submerged too, or, you have bigger problems

[manic torrent]

no, I mean, completely. What the hell do you think happens to water on the road.

[pulsar violet]

Ok we are not talking about snorkeling lmao

[long briar]

A lot of trucks and SUVs nowadays have at least some degree of wading depth

[manic torrent]

A standard vehicle in good condition is actually pretty likely to float.

[winged yarrow]

It's all about making sure the holes are above the water. Cars can't hold their breath

[pulsar violet]

Ummm… magic

[long briar]

And even then, cars have to at least survive a rainstorm (when the roads aren't flooded but puddles could be as deep as a foot)

[fossil frost]

my ford mondeo has been able to drive quite well through about a foot of water (for the 15-20 seconds it took me to get through it)... the bently that followed me down that country road... not so much 😄

[long briar]

F

[winged yarrow]

Mine is a 2006 Ford F-150 that was definitely used as a work truck before and has ~170,000 miles on it. I have this strange feeling it won't float lol

[manic torrent]

I'm sure it wont 🙂

[winged yarrow]

I can't decide for my next vehicle whether to get a used 2018 Nissan Leaf for the $4k EV credit from the IRS or if I should get an expensive ass 4x4 🇺🇸 TRUCK

[fossil frost]

the guys car got to the middle of the body of water, and then just went dead... nothing at all, push button start, and it wouldnt do a thing, nothing lit up, and was jammed in drive too, so it couldnt be towed out easily. the guy had to sit there and wait, blocking a single lane road in the middle of the country, waiting for a bently recovery service to come and pick him up

[long briar]

actually, don't basically all trucks nowadays can wade through 2 feet of water at least just due to height?

[manic torrent]

yes, but I was talking specifically about cars

[winged yarrow]

If it can breath, it can drive

[long briar]

eh not quite but close

[long briar]

including crossovers...?

[manic torrent]

no, like... cars.

[fossil frost]

noope, your gearbox can suck the water into it and kill its self

[long briar]

L bozo tbh, analogue cars are just better lol

[winged yarrow]

Okay well then it's not breathing is it?

[fossil frost]

it can still breath air, but the gearbox, which doesnt burn anything, can get flooded and die

[long briar]

^

[winged yarrow]

So is that like running out of stamina in the water like Link in botw/totk?

[fossil frost]

which is what happened to the bently guy, his gearbox had ripped its self apart, as well as him shorting out all the electrics

[winged yarrow]

What exactly is a "gearbox"

[long briar]

except it actually costs a ton to fix irl

[fossil frost]

a box... of gears...

[long briar]

it doesn't recover over time

[fossil frost]

new gearbox alone on that bently was £12,000

[long briar]

Just google "what's a transmission"

[winged yarrow]

I see

[fossil frost]

americans might call it the transmission, but its a stupid name

[long briar]

it's the name you'll get the best results from google

[winged yarrow]

Ohh

[manic torrent]

no, that's wrong and stupid

[fossil frost]

the drivetrain, is the whole thing... thats what i thought anyway

[winged yarrow]

So when I say my transmission fluid is too high, it means my car is in a lake

[mint yacht]

Sure

[winged yarrow]

because the transmission is all of the car except for the tires

[long briar]

lol

...no

[winged yarrow]

and the engine

[long briar]

between engine and driving wheels

[long briar]

that includes engine tho

[ancient comet]

I general consider the transmission to only be the gearbox

[winged yarrow]

Then why does Google lie

[manic torrent]

same reason chatGPT lies

idiots post dumb shit on the internet.

[winged yarrow]

GIGO counter off the charts?

[manic torrent]

I mean that's not entirely fair - chatGPT lies because it generates words it is most likely that you want.

[long briar]

I think people forget, chatgpt is a speech engine, not web browser

[winged yarrow]

It's great at making shit up, which makes it even better for subjective things or stories, which is why early adopters of its intended purpose like AI Dungeon do really well

[manic torrent]

it's just really good auto word suggestion

[long briar]

it's always confidently wrong somehow

[winged yarrow]

But it's gotten good enough at making common boilerplate. I think what we realized is that a lot of the world requires really commonplace boilerplate to function.

[long briar]

I asked it a math question, it did about 2 steps correctly and then I was like wtf is it doing

[winged yarrow]

Charles Bukowski once wrote, "The problem with the world is that smart people have doubts and stupid people are confident."

Or something like that

[manic torrent]

dunning kruger.

[winged yarrow]

Yes, I know all about the dunning kruger effect.

I know it from top to bottom.

[manic torrent]

also: 90% of everything is crap

[winged yarrow]

No, it's 80% like the pareto principle

ALTHOUGH my favorite number is 90 since it's the decimal for the ASCII Z which is my favorite initial

[manic torrent]

Sturgeon's law - 90% of everything is crap

[winged yarrow]

and I have it tattooed on my right leg in binary as 01011010

[long briar]

not quite, dunning kruger is "self confidence" based on experience, not knowledge...

[winged yarrow]

Shut up, we know everything there is to know about the dunning kruger confidence, I don't need a lesson on it.

[long briar]

Where people overestimate their abilities or knowledge without experience

[long briar]

then why was it used "wrong"

[winged yarrow]

It wasn't, I'm confident we're using it correctly.

[long briar]

Ok whatever you say

[manic torrent]

The Dunning-Kruger effect effect occurs when a person's lack of knowledge and skills in a certain area cause them to overestimate their own competence

[bitter thunder]

That sounds oxymoronic

If you don’t know stuff how would that cause confidence

[unkempt widget]

because you don't know how deep the rabbit hole goes, and you think your surface knowledge pretty much sums it all up

[long briar]

you don't know that you don't know

[winged yarrow]

In the words of Superman, who probably got it from somebody else, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

I was trying to demonstrate ignorant overconfidence and you backed off, gotta check people on their shit, mane.

[unkempt widget]

you don't know what you don't know

[winged yarrow]

I can show you a graph that XKCD made that makes sense

[bitter thunder]

Sure. Who is xkcd?

[manic torrent]

is that the one with pirates?

[manic torrent]

welcome to the internet, first time?

[bitter thunder]

Oh that singer?

[mint yacht]

Nah

Fun little short comic things

[unkempt widget]

but the confidence goes up after a lot of experience

[winged yarrow]

No, I can't find the one from xkcd. I think I was thinking of the ballmer peak lmao

[long briar]

only when you're against a newbie

[manic torrent]

not as much as the start 😄

[winged yarrow]

Here's another one @bitter thunder :

[long briar]

I've been building pcs for a decade now, still scared to shit I'll do something wrong

[manic torrent]

I like that, but the peak is higher than the plateu

[bitter thunder]

Makes sense

[winged yarrow]

TRUTH

[manic torrent]

see I'm not scared to do things wrong, because I know that occasionally I will do things wrong, but I understand how everything works together and I can fix it.

[winged yarrow]

Look up XKCD if you like nerdy concepts like science, technology, philosophy, psychology, and linux

[long briar]

Oh for sure

[manic torrent]

but I've also been doing this for a very very very very long time because I'm super old

[unkempt widget]

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/impostor_syndrome.png

not directly related, but i found this funny

[long briar]

wait a green got image perms?

[manic torrent]

100% related.

[unkempt widget]

twitch sub

[winged yarrow]

Boosts and twitch subs

[long briar]

wait so, does prime sub count cause I've never used it in my life

[winged yarrow]

ye

[unkempt widget]

yes it does

[long briar]

ohhh ayt omw

[unkempt widget]

xkcd is so fun to just press random on

[winged yarrow]

I just don't do enough hardware things, and in the software space it's a lot easier to fix

[unkempt widget]

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/typing_notifications.png

sometimes it hits too close to home

[manic torrent]

Ah, see I do a nice crossover of both because I love pain

[long briar]

I offer tech support for people who I build for hardware wise since that's what I'm most familiar with

[winged yarrow]

I don't mind pain, I really wanna do more hardware stuff. Like the crane thing that I think you made, I want to make a big ass robot shelf that I can put things on and it places items in a cubby up on the ceiling in an unused corner somewhere

[manic torrent]

I'm working on my midi interface right now, adding a home assistant back end

[winged yarrow]

You using any local LLMs for that home assistant?

[manic torrent]

not currently, but local voice processing is in my immediate future. especially because google started sucking 1-2 months ago

[bitter thunder]

Voice processing?

[winged yarrow]

ah speech to text?

[manic torrent]

for voice commands to turn on lights, play music, blah blah etc

[bitter thunder]

Nice

[winged yarrow]

I remember looking at that one open source assistant for that, the one with the Mimic V2/V3 text to speech engine that runs on a raspberry pi

https://mycroft.ai

[bitter thunder]

Ooh

[manic torrent]

I run an ML based camera buit of software - frigate. It's creepy.

[bitter thunder]

ML?

[manic torrent]

machine learning - "AI"

[bitter thunder]

Ah

[manic torrent]

but I can just go and see what times it saw a person or a car.

[winged yarrow]

Nice, with person/car recognition, too?

Can it recognize?

[manic torrent]

it can be trained with peoples faces, but I haven't done that yet. The door camera is actually a bit shit, I want to replace it.

[winged yarrow]

I have always wanted to have a face recognition unlock and open my door for me

I love security that's completely nullified by serial killers

[manic torrent]

yeah I have a zigbee door lock, so I am going to do that

[manic torrent]

all security is only good against the threat model it was prepared for.

[winged yarrow]

True, if I put an RFID chip in the palm of my hand, my hand could get cut off

[manic torrent]

If you drive a truck through my house, it's irrelevant what lock is on the door

[manic torrent]

or... they could just break a window.

[winged yarrow]

True, if I build an underground bunker they could get a tractor

[bitter thunder]

There’s glass that’s resistant to damage, nunchucks being whipped at it at violent speed

Should install some

[past egret]

or a bunker buster

[manic torrent]

of course there is, but again, what is your threat model? You think people are coming to attack your suburban home with nunchucks?

[winged yarrow]

nunchucks are the best test of a window's durability

[past egret]

or a rock, a brick, a hammer

[winged yarrow]

They should be using those glass hammers that they use to break into cars

[bitter thunder]

I mean no, but what cons are there in having durable glass?

[winged yarrow]

My house should theoretically be so secure that if it catches fire, there's no way to escape.

[bitter thunder]

At least if it’s one way durable and lets you break out of it

[manic torrent]

cost. possibly different in terms of the way light refracts or reflects.

[past egret]

waste of money

[bitter thunder]

Make a flat prince rupert glass that’s insanely strong on one side but fragile on the inside

[manic torrent]

In the real world, you have to pay for things.

[past egret]

thats not how that works

[winged yarrow]

Also speaking of good security, if you've never seen it I recommend this REMA 1000 commercial lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwPtcqcqz00

[bitter thunder]

Lol

[winged yarrow]

The only problem with that commercial imo is that I have no idea what they sell

it's like they just decided to be funny and put their name on it, they're a supermarket chain lmao

[bitter thunder]

Having smart tech can be good if you’re smart about it yourself

[winged yarrow]

Speaking of paying for things, do you get special cameras for your setup or are you doing what I'm planning to do and using old android phones?

[manic torrent]

Hopefully I get a job this week so I don't have to eat dog food

[winged yarrow]

well that's a dark turn

[manic torrent]

oh god, phones would be a fucking nightmare. poe cameras are cheap.

[manic torrent]

I mean, literally groceries arrived earlier tonight 😄 we just also got dog food so we have heaps atm

[winged yarrow]

Fair, and if you get the good high quality dog food then it's really only Grade D meat. Not very far from some fast food chains.

[manic torrent]

Two jobs I'm interviewing for are both at least 10k more than I was making before, so that will sort it out

oh no, we get dried food, it's not very pleasant to eat.

[winged yarrow]

Ah

[bitter thunder]

I thought people made better dog food than people food

[winged yarrow]

Meaty crackers

[bitter thunder]

Made for nutrients and not pleasure

[manic torrent]

you feed people to dogs!?

[bitter thunder]

Only the bad ones

[winged yarrow]

pfft I wish I ate food for nutrients and not pleasure, but I've been tainted

I need to spend a few years in the gulag to reset

[manic torrent]

man, pipewire is so awesome

[winged yarrow]

tbh I think everybody could benefit from a few years in the gulag

[winged yarrow]

Nothing better than a good graph

[bitter thunder]

It is. Just wish carla could save connections

[manic torrent]

I think I need to suck it up and integrate bluetooth, so I can answer the phone from my stream deck, using the mic/headphones I use normally (or the speakers, or whatever)

[winged yarrow]

The more complex and feature-proof you make it, the closer you get to Batman

I think that's admirable

[bitter thunder]

Feature proof?

[manic torrent]

I wrote a python library to twiddle it

[winged yarrow]

Like all the features

[bitter thunder]

I don’t quite follow, what is feature proofing?

[manic torrent]

INFINITE FEATURES

[winged yarrow]

I think I mixed it with "future proof" where you make it impossible to be obsolete

But it's the same meaning as "future proof" the way I meant it lol

[bitter thunder]

Ah ok

[manic torrent]

it's why I wrote my MIDI control software to basically be a bidirectional arbitrary message parser which can be configured to do literally anything.

[winged yarrow]

What's your github again Mr. Bob?

[manic torrent]

https://github.com/hrdwrbob/surfacepresser

In a week or two I'll polish and release my robotic process automation manager/runner.

[winged yarrow]

I like the title lmao, since it's basically "Musical Instrument Digital Interface Interface Interface"

[manic torrent]

If I get excited I'll port my pipewire library to the ACTUAL library backend rather than wrapping pw-dump (because I looked at doing it by interfacing with the library and ... blahhhh"

haha yep. In its current form it's likely only useful to me, but with some polish, some pre-fab configs, and a few more endpoints, it will be sweet. It could also then have a GUI to assign controls etc.

[timid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/jfk-clone-high-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-jack-black-gif-18659433

[winged yarrow]

I could see a MIDI interface interface being really useful for home automation. I imagine a control system that plays sounds over a speaker across the whole smart home and combinations of the midi would do different things.

Could be really nice to hear when you ask it to brew your coffee in the morning it plays some nice tune

[bitter thunder]

Universe

[manic torrent]

That's what I'm integrating

[winged yarrow]

Yes, I can also see that being mounted in the wall

[manic torrent]

Yeah was whatever song was playing. The text cycled around

[bitter thunder]

What other stuff do you make?

[neon zenith]

Do i need to unninstal my gpu drivers when i want to test my old gpu? to see if it works and then put the new one back into the case

[winged yarrow]

I would assume yes, but also if you're just seeing that it works then maybe you could skip it

especially if they're both the same brand e.g. nvidia

[neon zenith]

Yes i only wanna se if it works so that my pc boots up thats all and yes they are both nvidia gtx 970 and rtx 3070

[winged yarrow]

then nah it should be fine, but if you run into issues with it not working then go ahead and reinstall the drivers for it. You'll probably be okay, though.

[neon zenith]

Okay thank you

[manic torrent]

A crane, a rescue boat with a robot arm and a retractable 360 degree kort nozzle, custom dash for my car, you know... stuff

[winged yarrow]

rescue boat?

[bitter thunder]

Bit of a maker aye?

[winged yarrow]

Do you think you have a god complex or are you just cool like that?

[manic torrent]

not a great pic but you get the idea

[bitter thunder]

I am not educated in the nature of software but I have a question that you may know the answer to

[manic torrent]

I mean, I have all manner of problems 😄

[winged yarrow]

That's awesome!

[manic torrent]

robot arm

[winged yarrow]

Cool, so a mixture. Just making sure I have what it takes to enter the maker arena. When did you get into hardware/software and which came first?

[manic torrent]

uhhhh, when I was like... young. many many many years ago

For me it's all the same.

[winged yarrow]

Which came first for you, hardware or software? Or did you start with hardware and so technically both?

[manic torrent]

I suppose software more so than hardware

[bitter thunder]

Is it possible to make an image capture software that captures metadata - ie if you rectangle select a screen with an image in it, even partially, it retains the data that you can use to open the full image, or if there’s a link (hyperlink or not) it’ll take its metadata too - and when you browse the image, you can actually click on said link?

Idk what it’d even be called but I think it’s a cool idea

[manic torrent]

sooooo, like google reverse image search

[winged yarrow]

Sorta like on instagram and etc where you can tag people/links in the image?

Or you mean like the thumbnails in the metadata of the image that contain a small but full copy of the image

Which could then be used for back tracking to the original?

Wait, not Google Lens right

[bitter thunder]

Maybe not reverse image search, more like if there’s a link inside of the photo you took, it’ll capture the data of the link and make it clickable even in the image browser, and if an image exists inside the selected region it’d save the data of that image to the capture and you could click on it like it’s a link to open it fully or something- idk how to best describe it

Or if you capture a screen that has a video in its view it’ll be able to save its metadata and you could either open the video via the image browser or just outright play it from the capture?

Describing is hard sometimes

[full fossil]

If only this server had voice channels so we could react to WWDC

[real stratus]

That would be awesome

What do you think the headset will look like

[winged yarrow]

@bitter thunder Well you'd probably have to create a custom image viewer for that, but you should be able to add any arbitrary data to the XMP section of the Exif metadata. I'm not sure if there's a file size limit so you could even add base64 data for videos and etc.

[manic torrent]

or you could just... type words.

[full fossil]

too hard

[bitter thunder]

Neat. Though i know basically no code, I’d need to learn so much

[manic torrent]

oh, if you try hard enough you can bury all sorts of shit in an image 😄

[winged yarrow]

Yeah, looks like there's a few libraries out there meant for adding metadata to images. I could see what @bitter thunder is talking about being cool, but super niche.

Like why embed a video in an image when you could just have a video where the thumbnail is the image?

Links on the other hand, that makes sense, but I think most platforms separate the data (and host it on their servers, like YouTube) rather than share files with that information placed in the metadata.

Technically, though, if the internet gets demolished by legislation like they've been talking about, keeping that in the individual files could make more sense than separating them.

[bitter thunder]

I am speechless- probably cause tired, that’s pretty neatly detailed. I don’t quite understand the part about saving the video in the thumbnail though or how links are separate in another server

[manic torrent]

basically - nothing is real. You know how you think about a 'file' ? It's just a bunch of sections of data that say when it starts and ends. it isn't a real thing.

like when you connect to a different port on a network, it's just some bits in a 'packet' which is just another thing with a start and an end

[winged yarrow]

Take what Hardware Bob said and extend it to modern server-based computing. Let's say you go to a social media site and see an image, and that image has a link somewhere on there, rather than that link being stored in the image, it's a record somewhere that says here's the image, and in this section of the image here's a link.

NOW let's go more technical, and we'll be speaking in assembly from here on out like a latin class.

[manic torrent]

A filesystem is a database.

[winged yarrow]

Do you have a favorite filesystem?

[bitter thunder]

So to summarize, site has image, image has link somewhere not inside the image itself, link merely points to image

[manic torrent]

ehhh, I care a lot less about that these days, particularly as the differences matter far less.

although reiserfs is the only file system that is proven to murder your wife

[winged yarrow]

Yeah like for JSON (JavaScript Object Notation) it could be like:

{
  "image": "https://my.image/url.png",
  "link": {
    "bounds": [0, 0, 5, 5],
    "url": "https://my.link"
  },
}

So this could describe a record for an image, where there's a box from 0,0 to 5,5 pixels that links to that url

[winged yarrow]

Is that a good thing or a bad thing lmao

[manic torrent]

it's hilarious if you like dark humour 😄

but particularly with fuse now, file systems are just a state of mind

[winged yarrow]

Just gotta be at one

Be in sync with your filesystem and it will be in sync with you 🙏

[gentle wren]

hey i am new here i need help with my window adminastor can someone help me out?

[manic torrent]

yep. And then you get amazon S3 - which is an object store, not a filesystem.

[full fossil]

When is wwdc?

[full fossil]

Oh is at 10am (pdt)

[winged yarrow]

https://dontasktoask.com

[winged yarrow]

I wonder how different modern computing would be if we used object stores from the get-go instead of filesystems like we've got.

[tired glade]

Is it Mac or iPhone Apple event today?

[winged yarrow]

Both

[ocean narwhal]

Do y'all actually think that LLM dialog will ever come to client-side single player games

linbald or luke (cant remember which one) seems to think so but didnt give a good reason

[tired glade]

Oh, volume button iPhone is today

[winged yarrow]

Yes, as these tools are optimized, they will either become available for consumer-level hardware to cope with pre-trained sets (like an NPC) or single-player games will require an internet connection for immersion lol

[finite cloud]

Dub Dub DC 23

https://developer.apple.com/wwdc23/

[placid turtle]

What is going on with EVGA PSUs so many are out of stock and have a delivery fee with Prime. I ordered one two days ago and it’s “undeliverable”

[gentle wren]

i need help please

[finite cloud]

Annnd you know what that means. Apple produce time

[winged yarrow]

Dwarf Fortress + Graphics + LLMs = closest we've ever been to a universe sim

[winged yarrow]

https://dontasktoask.com

[gentle wren]

broooo\

i dont want that

[winged yarrow]

You need to read it to understand why I'm linking it

[ocean narwhal]

the 2nd is what im expecting. It will be a ridiculously long time before LLM's are ready to go on such a broad range of hardware which being fast and effective. If any games come out with LLMs im expecting it to be an always online connection to a datacenter. RIP offline platy

[winged yarrow]

Well, some LLMs could be super heavily optimized, think like a 1B model that's really really good at providing dialogue options for a specific game. A 1B model could probably run on any gaming PC right now, along with a game.

[ocean narwhal]

Thats true

[winged yarrow]

But it would be super experimental and still mess up a lot

[ocean narwhal]

Might be fast enough to run on CPU if they have a small enough model and specifically optimized for the game, yeah.

[winged yarrow]

It's also the question of, like, if you took something like Bannerlord and trained a 1B model on options for that game, how much randomness do you really need to have for it to "feel real"

[lucid echo]

#1027757333117415424

[winged yarrow]

Like you're more so looking for some semblance of personality for individual characters, and a few options of back and forth conversation, but nothing too crazy

[gentle wren]

thanks sanic

[lucid echo]

Could be a blessing in disguise - Might be in tandem with cloud-streaming games with graphics/game mechanics/scope that far exceed what local computers can handle. WAN show has discussed this a few times.

[ocean narwhal]

Singleplayer games being always-online is never a blessing 💀

[lucid echo]

I'm talking massively multiplayer stuff, streaming stadia-style from the cloud. Very different thing

[placid bramble]

could i get a recommendation for an emulator for TOTK?

[stray apex]

ryujinx worked for my legally obtained copy of TOTK

[lucid echo]

I found the later releases of Yuzu to be easier to setup/run stable

[winged yarrow]

I think it's more likely we'll see MMO-style games with LLMs and good text to speech capabilities before single player games. This could make it so that voice actors would give a few preset recordings for many forms of dialogue rather than recording all of the dialogue and save a ton of money.

I use Yuzu but somebody told me there was another one they used that was easier

[lucid echo]

Yuzu has a much better UI imo. I've run totk on both

[ocean narwhal]

MMO maybe makes more sense

[winged yarrow]

I haven't played totk yet, but I do like Yuzu a lot

[winged yarrow]

Yeah like imagine SWTOR but with a much more dynamic story-line

[placid bramble]

ill give yuzu a go ty

[tired glade]

I don't get it

[long briar]

Does Yuzu run better on Nvidia given switch is originally on Nvidia...

Just wondering, cause I've never used it but I want to sometime soon

[lucid echo]

I'm on nvidia yeah, but both emulators are extremely CPU-bound. GPU does basically nothing

[long briar]

Ohh okok

[finite cloud]

Oh wait i understand what you were saying. Yeah probably Mac or something else not iPhone since iPhones are usually the special event later in the year

[lucid echo]

It won't make much a difference I don't think, since it's just Vulkan and not interacting directly with the GPU

[long briar]

Oh vulkan...

[tired glade]

Hadn't it got proper GPU support?

[long briar]

The most broken api...

[tired glade]

Oh, just mac event

[finite cloud]

I mean macs can be interesting from time to time. We might have something Mac Pro related. There’s also a vr headset rumored

[full fossil]

isnt that the api that

has 200fps more on doom
enabled yuzu to work on android

works better on linux

and can asynch compile shaders in emulators

[long briar]

Yes

it's the API that nobody codes for because it's really difficult

and support sometimes just breaks

[winged yarrow]

It would make sense that they release a VR headset before an AR one so they can get the apps and etc down while the hardware catches up to their standards

[finite cloud]

An AR headset? How would that work?

Like Oculus pass through mode but that’s the game?

[winged yarrow]

Well, AR "glasses" yeah

[finite cloud]

Guess that could be kind of cool

[winged yarrow]

The idea is for it to be stylish and small so that you can wear them on a day-to-day basis, replacing the phone partially and making it so the world is UI-ified

There were talks of them developing some AR glasses but the tech wasn't to their standards yet

[finite cloud]

Actually now that I think about it I do recall that

[winged yarrow]

that's a whole series?

Too much effort

uhh

[summer folio]

Again, it is June

[winged yarrow]

It's my birthday month

[vapid crown]

Anyone watching WWDC?

[tulip tusk]

me rn

on their website

[gilded quest]

gonna be the worst wwdc of my life

my coffee maker broke this morning 😭

[ivory marsh]

ye

[vapid crown]

Luckily work is slow so I’m watching on YouTube

[tired glade]

That was pretty cheese from Apple

[gentle slate]

Why is google so intent on giving me content in Bulgarian

[vapid crown]

I didn’t like that WWDC intro…

[open thunder]

nope

[ivory marsh]

yeah that was dumb

[open thunder]

it was awful

[gilded quest]

it was fine

[vapid crown]

Do you have VPN by any chance?

[gentle slate]

no im in bulgaria

[winged yarrow]

Listen, the algorithm knows you better than you know yourself.

[ivory marsh]

mac

m3?

[summer folio]

Warshipped just censored June month kek

[vapid crown]

The WWDC stream is behind according to MKBHD tweets lol

[open thunder]

the design language of the animations definetely looks like were getting the apple vr shis

[tired glade]

They so cheese this time around

[gilded quest]

15" air

[ivory marsh]

15" mac air 🥱

[gilded forge]

currently watching WWDC - Ive learned ti hate shitty corporate friendly edm that these companies use

[tired glade]

3 pounds is like 1kg, right?

[ocean narwhal]

apple vr, VOM

[gilded quest]

to be fair, 15" air could have been a press release next week

[summer folio]

Did Linus adress June month related changes to his company staff on latest WAN show btw?

[ebon laurel]

the moment that cursor popped out i thought it was the xr announcement

[ivory marsh]

that notch is still dumb

[gilded quest]

1kg=2.2lbs

[ebon laurel]

biggest tease ever

[gilded forge]

always has been

[ocean narwhal]

what does that mean o_O

[tired glade]

Oh,1,3kg laptop or so

[unique galleon]

I'm not interested unless it has a touchscreen

[tired glade]

Oh, still m2

[ebon laurel]

why isn't there a macadress channel for us wwdc dorks

[winged yarrow]

iPhone Fold incoming

[summer folio]

I take that as a no

[tired glade]

Is iPhone today?

[winged yarrow]

I kid

[vapid crown]

I hate these graphs

[gilded forge]

probably a tease or an iOS announement

[tired glade]

Wasn't last Intel MacBook like 5 years ago?

[unique galleon]

I'm guessing it's a U series i7 lol

[winged yarrow]

2019 I think

[ocean narwhal]

I never watch the entire WAN shows so I probably skipped it even if he covered it

[ebon laurel]

99% of these features are just copy pasted from mbp

[tired glade]

4, so 9 gen or 8 gen Intel?

[gilded forge]

"only 15" laptop that does it all" ...... sure

[vapid crown]

I would be amazed if my 2015 MacBook Pro still gets the new macOS. I don’t use it anymore though.

[ebon laurel]

damn pricedrop though

[winged yarrow]

Can it support 4 additional monitors though?

[gilded quest]

no pricing?

[tired glade]

Oh,same price as cheapest 4090

[gilded quest]

oh fuck
that price tho

[vapid crown]

1199

[ivory marsh]

that m1 air still carries

[gilded forge]

lmfao

[gilded quest]

4080*

[unique galleon]

I'm thinking that'll be 8GB of RAM and 250GB SSD

[vapid crown]

8gb of ram is gross

[gilded quest]

yes

[unique galleon]

💀

[tired glade]

You can get 1300$ 4090, somehow

[winged yarrow]

8GB of RAM is all you need right?

[vapid crown]

Chrome entered the chat

[gilded forge]

when the headset gets announced I'll be waiting for "final cut pro"

[gilded quest]

new? used doesn't count
illegal methods dont count

[tired glade]

Wait, its just 8gb?

[unique galleon]

All you need to run a web browser

[summer folio]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/134bdr5/she_exactly_looks_like_anthony/

[tired glade]

Used

[gilded quest]

8GB of ram is cringe; but not as cringe as 256 storage

[tired glade]

Cloud,for 19.99 a month

[warm terrace]

Nice that the Mac airs price went down

[winged yarrow]

New line of chromebooks looking great

[ebon laurel]

m2 ultra

[vapid crown]

Can it run Redfall

[ebon laurel]

gahahahhaha @vapid crown

[unique galleon]

Unironically yes

[gilded forge]

framework Chromebook kills tho

[ebon laurel]

not even the m2 ultra

[tired glade]

Oh, still against Intel Mac

[tulip tusk]

Apple making WILD claims about M2 💀💀

[tired glade]

Haha

[summer folio]

Can they run old Windows 98 16-bit x86 software/games?

[ocean narwhal]

is june month some dogwhistle shit? who cares

[winged yarrow]

You right

[tired glade]

192gb not bad

[gilded forge]

they always put "__% faster" in their keynotes

[winged yarrow]

prolly

[unique galleon]

I bet 192GB of RAM costs a fortune

[vapid crown]

Imagine the price jump when you upgrade that memory

[tired glade]

No AI buzzwords

[summer folio]

Radical!

[full fossil]

I smell slowmo

[tulip tusk]

Who tf needs 192gb though?!

[gilded quest]

yeah their comparisons are actually meaningless since they don't back it up with any data/benchmarks

[warm terrace]

NASA

[tired glade]

After effects people

[tulip tusk]

Ik, and most if it is proven wrong

[gilded quest]

professionals

[summer folio]

Ikr? 64GB SSD/Harddrive is enuff for anyone

[ocean narwhal]

just need 4 48gb sticks soo $800+?

[tulip tusk]

still, that's insane

[winged yarrow]

I like to have 14 monitors with 15 chrome tabs on each one, so 192gb actually isn't enough

[ocean narwhal]

oh wait im mistaken

can you get 48gb sticks yet?

[tulip tusk]

6 MONITORS?!

[warm terrace]

HAHA

[tulip tusk]

WHY do you need 6 MONITORS

[tired glade]

For 8k render 196gb isn't that much

[gilded quest]

eh, if your company is paying for it, who cares

[warm terrace]

Price powerhouse u mean

[tulip tusk]

true

[full fossil]

Cameras maybe

[summer folio]

3*32" > All

[vapid crown]

How is the Mac still bad with external monitors. PCs can handle more than 6

[winged yarrow]

stonks 📈

[tired glade]

Big mac time

[warm terrace]

Not this shit again

[gilded forge]

and why does anyone need 22 simultaneous 8k streams

[vapid crown]

RIP INTEL MAC PRO

[winged yarrow]

With a large fry and a sprite

[tired glade]

Is it still on AMD?

[tulip tusk]

that iMac gonna cost as much as a whole Porsche 911 💀💀

[ivory marsh]

imagine paying 50k for an intel mac pro

[warm terrace]

I bet

[tulip tusk]

ONG

[tired glade]

Wait, just 192gb?

[warm terrace]

[gilded forge]

but can the Porsche fever moanas Island beach scene?

[summer folio]

Why are you guys talking about apple, nobody in tech uses apple products, they are for average joe sheeps

[tired glade]

Last Intel big Mac had up too 2tb of ram

[tulip tusk]

probably

[full fossil]

it can grate cheese faster then ever - apple, 2023

[tired glade]

So it's downgrade

[tulip tusk]

sorta

[vapid crown]

Do the wheels still cost $1000

[tired glade]

250, it was 250$

[gilded forge]

bc whether or not I like it, Apple has a huge impact on the tech world

[tulip tusk]

but 6 PRO DISPLAY XDR

[winged yarrow]

Wrong, I use a macbook for discord and a linux workstation to code

[vapid crown]

Oh that’s the arm lol

[polar fern]

New Mac Pro 🥳

[tulip tusk]

6999$ 💀💀

[granite tinsel]

holy shit apple did it, they did a new mac pro

[ivory marsh]

wow only $7000! 💀

[vapid crown]

Hell no

[tired glade]

Up too 192gb of ram,that can be pretty big downgrade

[heavy dust]

who compliments the fat girls at the gym so they remember you when they’re fit

[granite tinsel]

and now the apple silicon transition is complete

[gilded forge]

why does anyone need a $7000 cheese grater

[winged yarrow]

Solid strat

[vapid crown]

Intel be shaking

[warm terrace]

[tired glade]

Movie production

[polar fern]

$7k for a top end product is not bad.

[full fossil]

na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye (rip intel macs)

[heavy dust]

Buy low sell high

[gilded forge]

they couldn't make it look... appealing?