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i'm talking the 13980HX vs the 7945HX
in that case yea, its actually best case scenario
AMD draws 20 less and performs better than the intel at higher wattage.
mention of performance with 4090 mobile being nice is not really true itself considering its got carried by the cpu
discord
or what, the 3090 is carried by having a 13900k?
13900k is carried by a Geforce 9800gt!
it is good day to be not ded
no! it’s carried by a GT 210 🤣
its carried by the GT 540M
mornin
Hello, I just joined, I'm trying to diagnose performance issues on a laptop.
whatchu smoking dog
i dont think you know what 4090 he means
it's true that it's basically the mobile version of a desktop 4080, not the desktop 4090, but it's still a great gpu
its a little shitty for 1800 though
complaining about halo product pricing is a waste of time to be honest
although it is funny watching apple silicon demolish the mobile 4090 in premiere pro
faster render times with substantially less power draw
i mean its 200 whole dollars more than the desktop one which is wildly better.
laptops are never going to be equal in value to desktops
it's a waste of time to gripe about it
Nvidia prices these things for maximum gouge.
you can talk to yourself if you want to rage about nvidia
i hate all big three silicon companies
the only reason amd isnt predatory is because they cant compete
Amd > nvidia
AMD = Top Shelf
Nvidia = you failed
ugh
how?
Because I'll spend 350-500$ for a 6800-6950xt vs spending 1k-1.5k for nvidia equivalent all so I can use raytracing? Lmfao
a bit late but 7600 non X
the 7900xtx is the complete full silicon that amd can offer and it still falls far short of nvidia's 4090 which is only 89% of the complete silicon
the 7900xtx is complete silicon? i thought it wasnt
Source?
gpu vendor product pages and techpowerup
"The RX 7900 XTX has the fully enabled Navi 31 GCD (Graphics Compute Die) along with six MCDs (Memory Cache Dies)"
-tomshardware
the complete ada silicon is 18176 cuda cores, 4090 only has 16384
"Unlike the fully unlocked RTX TITAN Ada, which uses the same GPU but has all 18432 shaders enabled, NVIDIA has disabled some shading units on the GeForce RTX 4090 to reach the product's target shader count."
-techpowerup
i dont get how people think that AMD will beat the 4090
oh is it 18432? i only know of the rtx 6000 having 18134
i guess
the full ada silicon would land at 158fps in this testing (im using 18134 cuda cores to represent the full silicon)
amd can only offer 72% of that with the 7900xtx, along with only having 1/5 the raytracing performance
7900xt goated
i mean if you wanna pay $800 for what is the replacement for the 6800xt then sure
id advise just getting a 6950xt if you want an amd card
RED Triumphs!
Triumph is a brand of lingerie. Red is a very seductive color.

I appreciate and highly recommend red lingerie.
let me rephrase that . Reliable Excavtion Demolition Triumphs!
You don't do that
ok the first thing Ill do when I get a job
upgrade my PC. this thing doesnt cut it anymore.
minimum 2TB SSD and 10TB of HDD storage.
but they defeated Builders League United.
and play ff with us
carry my HW ass to EW
all that 2TB of SSD could go to caching all the community made maps on TF2 so you never have to wait for rounds to end. '
squirrel
squirrel
So, i just went through a couple of videos and articles
I want to buy a bigger SSD(2tb!!) and use it as my main SSD(my laptop got only one nvme slot)
I don't know which one to get, I'm a casual gamer and i store some pictures
Not a lot tho
thank you, i'll check it out🧢
caps
It's about 200 USD over here :"")
Samsung 970 evo plus? Any of the Samsung lines. Maybe it's cheaper wherever you are? Idk
the best thing in the world is nuclear power plants
You're not wrong
nah that would be Rocket Jumping.
I saw a dude try this once in Afghanistan
rocket jumping inside if a nuclear power plant 
Rocket jumping?
Mhmmm. 
💀
Howd it go..
Afghanistan is the pinnacle of innovation
It went and then there was just a lot of dust.
man i love April 26, 1986
Do tell use why 
Checks out
inspiring, thank you :)
np
I'll go for that if it's good
Cuz most of the SSD are ±10% in price
Except the ones with crazy speed
They are more expensive
Forget it, it's about 300$
Golly that is pricey.
The best part is
My laptop costs 450$ ish after sale and discount
no fine red mist?
You see, that stuff gets lost in the dust and debris that gets blown all over the place.
Arabic alphabet chart: the 28 letters,
1.Name :alif , shape: أ ,Sound: A
2. baa, ب, B
3. taa , ت , T
4. tha , ث , Soft ‘th’, as in thin
5.jiim ,ج , j/zh
6. haa, ح No equivalent, but soft h, as if you were blowing out a candle from the back of your throat.
7. khaa , خ, Scottish loch, almost as if gargling.
8. dal , د , d
9.dhal, ذ , Hard ‘th’, as in this
10. raa , ر, Soft rolled ‘r’, as in curd
11. zay , ز ,z
12. siin , س, s
13. shiin , ش, sh
14. Saad, ص, No equivalent, but similar to ss
15. Dhad, ض , No equivalent, but emphatic 'D' similar to dawn from the back of the throat
16. Taa, ط , No equivalent, but emphatic 'T'
17. Dhaa, ظ , No equivalent, but emphatic 'th'
18. hain, ع, No equivalent, but a guttural stop similar to the pause in uh-oh
19. ghain ,غ, No equivalent, but similar to 'gh'/'gr', the sound made when gurgling
20. faa , ف , f
21. qaaf , ق , No equivalent, but similar to caught from the back of the throat.
22. kaaf , ك , k
23.Laam, ل, L
24. miim, م, M
25. nune, ن, N
26.haa, ه, H
27. waw , و, w/oo, as in wow or boot
28. yaa , ي, y/ee, as in meet
Muh ray tracing
i love muh rt

my god
I havent used rt since metro exodus
theres only one game with real raytracing at this point anyway
but it is interesting to see how much further nvidia is with it
the switch from ips to an lg c2 was more of a monumental shift for me than experiencing ray tracing
absolutely
globally backlit ips monitors are extremely obsolete
practically projector picture quality
almost like they should settle for a while and provide a marginal generational improvement next gen.
nah i hope they keep embarassing amd
I hope AMD continues to do well since RT is still not a top priority for most people
i wish amd was doing well too but theyre not
Jusr getting the performance at a decent value is good enough
This 1000000%
is that what they were doing? i couldn't tell
Fake engineer is after my heart
yeah youre delusional bionic
Nvm I don't like you anymore
But i have no issue recommending 6800xt to people
i mean nvidia is the only option for a high end gpu right now
Its more of a work convenience
far from obsolete due to cost reasons
extremely obsolete
But definitely not innovative
it's garbage tech
I cant change how some enterprise apps interact with the gpu
it's perfectly functional, and has been for decades
riiiight. because 400 dollars definitely competes well with 270 and faster products at 280.
being functional doesnt mean it isnt obsolete
what's your definition of obsolete?
Anything that isn't nvidia
being inexcusably garbage compared to newer existing technologies
being several orders of magnitude worse than other display techs in multiple categories
I've got some friends who got a 6800XT at my direction over the 3080
you wouldn't say a NES in inexcusably garbage compared to an Amiga
Oxford dictionary says Obsolete verb : "no longer produced or used; out of date."
IPS is still the absolute most popular panel type
i would say nes is garbage
the console is dogshit, it's pitiful in performance and the cartridges are prone to failure
6800 is goated gpu atm
I agree
my condolences
Yo
a real friend points them towards a Radeon.
Why its straight up a better gpu long term
Amd the best
yeah unfortunately
Its not even a case of this brand better
I've switched to Linux. Radeon has been pretty smooth :3
Its because of the 10gb shit
Because atm ROCm still doesn't work and not many apps are as optimized for OpenGL as cuda
That 16gb is going to get people much farther
ips itself isnt really that bad, newer ADS panels have 1650:1 contrast ratios and the bleed is grey instead of blue, but the notion of basic edge backlighting is inexcusable
its not that. its because the Radeon is much better a card period.
IMO for long term, I'd just get what works now and switch later
Cheaper and lasts longer
Fedora is pretty nice.
ive only used debian
which means it's not obsolete, just inferior
I don’t get how people don’t use places like eBay and Facebook marketplace cuz u can get stuff for like £100 cheaper and I’ve tried it
Its not as black and white anymore from what ive experienced in my sphere of engineering apps
finally someone says something thats not "Linux sucks fuck linux"
I'd say Nvidia makes the better top-end card atm BUT! I wouldn't pay for one, nor would i pay for the leccy bill to run one
Where radeon was hot garbage in 2017ish now they're just as useable in many places as nvidia
yea. Gaming and OpenGL applications
just ditch Nvidia in general. Gaming is something they dont give a shit about.
I gave up on Ubuntu snaps. I dislike PopOS's interface. Fedora seems to be perfect
except tensorflow still has no competitor
Snaps are shit everyone agrees but Canonical
I thought I was educated in terms of software until I came here
Most of my apps have the option to switch between cuda and open gl
it's not "I'd say", 4090 literally it's own league
yes, but most are more optimized for cuda and thus run faster
what do you mean?
which is the entire point of better graphics cards
Eh not really
Comparing the 4090 to a gaming gpu like the 6800-7900 is like comparing a tank cannon to a sniper rifle.
They all run like shit to begin with
es[
i dont know if bionic is just a master troll or if he needs psychiatric help
You wont notice the change really
Lot more people are very knowledgeable than I thought in pc terms
cant really tell anymore
The latter.
4090 is still a gaming gpu
There's always someone who knows more 🙂
It's a work gpu
bionic must be an amd employee, there's no other explanation
yes absolutely you would. For me the only exception is davinci resolve, where OpenGL is as good as cuda.
he confidently states radeon cards are straight up better when theyre quite literally worse in almost every aspect
so why is it almost 30fps higher than any other card at 4k ultra while being cheaper than previous gen
Im not talking film apps
That said rx7000 series av1 encoders are awesome
its very obviously a 1440p/4k gaming card, that is also used as workstation
NLE, not "film apps"
Im talking Architecture Engineering Construction type
RX 7900 XTX :3
Nvidia has their place but. Radeon slaps.
i use a 6900xt but id be a crazy person if i said radeon is better
They're all hot garbage to run
most engineers I know swear by cuda
every aspect apart from the key one; would you buy it?
if i was buying a gpu today yes i would buy a nvidia gpu
I have a 6600XT and a 3080ti. both great.
Michael is that person that just lives for technicalities and semantics
i dont
the only thing they are frankly inferior for are CUDA workloads.
there are very very few things that radeon is better for
I can see it 100% for physics simulators and the like
you mean other than price-performance ratio?
Like Open Source?
for the price difference and the affected spectrum of consumers, 4090 is definitely worthwhile for how huge the FPS gain is on 4k
pure raster price to performance, open source drivers, and displayport 2.0
nvidia wins in every other aspect
yea xtx was like 40% the perf of 4090 in 4k rt or smth
I would consider the XTX to a 4080... But eh?
Open source will live on far longer than any proprietary crap would.
No?
For my photogrammetry nonsense it boils down to raster and vram at the end of the day and then you end up being cpu bottlenecked anyway lul
Apple vs Android proves this ish
Not always.
yeah ios apps are usually more polished than android versions
windows 3.1 source code still going strong
I like my iphone. This pixel 7 pro I'm using and the Samsungs I've used have been far more buggy compared to iphones.
yea then that makes sense. I've been building 3090 and 4090 systems for engineers for a while now cause they need cuda but also need more than 10gb of vram...
i also had a horrendous experience with pixels
I use both android and ios
Whoops
I use both. iOS is far more polished
I've been really enjoying my pixel 7 pro, what was your experience like?
i used to flip between android and ios every 2 years when i upgraded my phone, but i just got sick of dealing with android
i flip flop between android and IOS every couple of years
you are missing the point. no matter what, open source code is always going to live on. projects will die and forks will happen the legacy goes on and so forth.
My biggest thing is the spam that I don't get anymore
getting the apple itch again
the apple itch will be pretty strong when usb c iphones come this september
dude. I have worked with open source code my entire life. I'm well aware. It's not ALWAYS that simple.
haha yea, i've already had that thought
Bionic is a troll just ignore
bob you're gonna have an aneurysm if you try to have a conversation with bionic
his takes are so bad that it seems like trolling
I'm literally writing open source code RIGHT NOW
he has to be a paid amd employee
I go from s22 ultra to iphone xr and ipad pro on the daily. Just depends on the work
I just have an iPhone se for iMessage.
i have a MBP, Ipad pro, apple tv that im surprised i havent just stuck to iphones sooner
Lmfao raytracing.
when you text someone and they have green messages 😐
already have a nice ecosystem for it
Thank you for your service 🫡
iMessage. making texting more of an argument than it ever should have been.
lmfao it's even worse, xtx is 30% of a 4090
less
either way yea xtx is a bruh
When you let a corporation dictate your social relationships 😐
it gets 1/5 the performance of the 4090 in cyberpunk pathtracing and that's not even the full ada gpu die
I have s22 ultra for personal iphone xr for work and ipad pro to program my flight path but my dji rc is a droid
No it's just convenient
My point is you using something that is designed for nvidia cards as an argument against amd cards....
Haha my tank cannon can put a hole thru 4inch thick steel plate why can't your sniper rifle do that?!
I will say the ipad pro is an incredible piece of tech
I use discord primarily for people my age, but I have to work with people slightly older who prefer WhatsApp or especially iMessage
it's a MIDI device controller program - you can link any button or other control or display on any midi device to a variety of things.
Esp with the lidar scanner
My iPad Pro 2015 is amazing
rt isn't designed for nvidia cards
Nvidia has been developing rt for longer
Ancient by mobile device standards yet gets the modern OS and feels damn fast
wyd if a girl asks you to play 8ball pool and you have to say sorry my text bubbles are green
i use it pretty much just as a digital notepad for uni 🤡
Oop missed out bud
lol girls
to be fair i have only been asked to play pool by men
no but iMessage just works for older folks so
Girls wanna FaceTime while they fall asleep
I end up using it anyways
Yes finally I can press the dance music button on my keyboard to turn on and off my lights
true, like 9/10 of them
inv them to play the real thing 
sorry i cant facetime my text bubbles are green
Except the married ones 😎
try asking a girl to download discord because you dont have facetime
I did that....
if she doesnt is she the one anyways
Nah bb what’s ur snap
sorry I can't participate in this activity due to an intentional choice made by corporate executives
Intentional?
😂 lmao i just found an waifu arduino uno from bigtreetech
That they make iPhone users have an easier time communicating with each other?
hey man it's not my fault that google prioritizes pleasing nerds over getting bitches
Yes.
That they made it specific to iOS rather than pushing for a standard across all devices
Why would they make it standard? There's enough out there already
exactly 😄 - but really I just want a physical volume control, and rather than just ... plug in a volume control thing, I've made this as complicated as humanly possible.
I applaud your journey to salvation, soldier.
YK that meme abt there's 20 competitors, someone comes and says we'll make the best one to dominate all, and then there's 21 competitors?
https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/7/23342243/tim-cook-apple-rcs-imessage-android-iphone-compatibility > Emails unearthed in the Epic trial showed Apple senior vice president of software engineering Craig Federighi saying, “iMessage on Android would simply serve to remove [an] obstacle to iPhone families giving their kids Android phones.”
Sorry if this is out of line. Is fucked up on meds rn but this has to be the stupest take I've every heard period
You say that like this is not anticompetitive, anti consumer behavior
It's an xkcd comic too https://xkcd.com/927/
your point? its 95fps xtx vs 115fps 4090
that's nearly 20% worse
ye this
your mom is free and open source
Smooth brain arguments incoming
You have every right to use an alternative platform, it's not an oligopoly by any means
Whats the price of the 7900xtx
Unlike Intel and AMD back in the day
That’s not what the EU thinks
1k? I think
well the EU also requires audio companies to have an 85db SPL limit so I don't take them seriously at all
So why are we comparing it to a 4090 then
I'm not entirely sure what I'm seeing but it does look cool lmao
that's a lot of planning
What kind of stupid bullshit is that about imessage
because it's labelled as the top tier x900 card with TWO x's
Its should just be by price tier
Like 7900xt isn't xtreme enough
that's nearly on the level of saying "Microsoft should not be allowed to charge everyone a tax on their games sold on OUR product"
we need 7900 xtra xtreme
everyone get your crusading gear in order, theres about to be a Imessage vs RCS battle
like you don't need facetime, EU rules enforcing that is beyond dumb
Uh oh. You said the magic words
Before we can make fun of them dont forget 4090ti super
basically it's my audio layout. my server runs all of the audio.
Cause they need to play semantics and technicals.
The point is, people’s messages should just fucking work between all the devices
7900xtx > 4090 
make fun of them when it comes out then, as we did with 20 series super cards... also ti super never existed
Hey I'm not arguing about which platform is better or worse, they serve different purposes for different users, I'm just making sure that everyone knows that when we pick a side we're slurping up that good copium. Me with my badass Google Pixel™️ 7™️ Pro™️ and my lack of spam calls and anybody else with any other handheld computer they loan from a corporation.
they do, its called SMS/MMS
MMS is stupid
depends on whos buying it for what purpose
All of tech have dumb naming schemes
And they’re 30+ year old standards that barely work
Pixel 7 Pro circle jerk time?
if you're 4k gaming with high budget? you should always buy the 4090, because at that point you're a hobbyist and you can afford to spend money on your hobby
You got a 7 Pro?
iPhones are the only brand that has kept a coherent number scheme
Of course
thats the whole point though of this conversation though isnt it. Who's idea is bettererer to make it the standard
Oh actually nvm there's the pixel I guess
You gonna pick up the fold or the 8 when it comes out or are you keeping it for the long haul?
Wrong entirely super wrong
But then before the pixel was nexus... 4 5 6 and 7 8 was tablets? then to pixel?
Nexus 4 was a godly device
I am a 4k gamer and I do not and will not buy a fucking 4090 lmfao
Another point to add that you forgot was airdrop. Its surprisingly handy
Depends if I have a job in the fall (and what Google store trade in for 8 pro is like)
I don't really want to get a first gen Google hardware product....but I'd love a fold 2
nice sub 60 fps card man
I have a 3090ti at 4k
Android has nearby share which works pretty well now, so less of a selling point
at least it's better than android beam
Not in the same league
Lmfao 6800 is banging out 100fps at native 4k max settings so I'm not sure what you means.
Love how my name Translates to Huibi here and not Phoebe lol
i like the whole sharing clipboard from macOS to ios thing
Averaged? no it does not
Nearby share was just a decade late to the field
I feel you on the fold, I feel the same way although I think I got that opinion from this chat lmao. I wasn't able to get the Pixel Pass so I'm also banking on the trade-in but I'm sure it'll be pretty good. I haven't decided yet whether I'll get it or not, depends on features.
so it's nowhere near as developed
I’ve airdropped 4K video from my iPhone to my Mac at gigabit class speed
I want the Google Assistant to Bard connection.
but for sharing basic things like images it works fine...
yea? that's wifi direct for yoi
Good enough you can't tell a difference? Destiny 2 max settings 4k resolution. There isn't any stuttering and with a fast paced fps lile that you'd be able to tell. Which you can't. Cause there ain't any.
Not exactly a new standard either, just a better use of it
The data you can share is still rather limited by comparison. My iphone being a work phone and all benefits from this greatly because i can airdrop AR 3D models really easily
^^^^ was going to say its a direct connection to eachother, not going through any external servers
oh for sure
sub 60 fps is good enough?
destiny 2 isn't a hard to run gmae
This guy can't handle the fact you don't need a 2-3k dollar PC to play games at 4k over 60fps.

Console
6800 would be like a cripple trying to walk on the games i play if i played on 4k
it also helps the wifi chipsets for Apple are usually top tier
Why are you playing poorly ported/optimized games to begin with
... jesus christ, what year is it.
what nonsense is this
@long briar since 2008.
It's the year of cheap af gpus.
6800 having that extra vram is already doing miles better than the 10gb 3080 lul
For every GPU that can't do AI
When you drop the price of my entire set up for just the gpu... You're compensating.
As seen by my own 3080
until anything proprietary tech kicks in...
Ahh yes, cause 90% of everyone that gets a gpu cares about AI work
No, just the whales that can buy 'em
“Ai” Ive yet to see it. Just all hype marketing.
Inb4 he realizes 3050 outperforms 6950xt in ai
I mean if you do AI work by all means it's justified for getting whatever is best. Bet for 99% of people gaming is what they use the gpu for.
my bad
But who cares lol
no. most people get GPU for work because people have lives unlike kids like you
based off rabbit logic,no
Um
I may be a kid at heart but I'm no child.
NA is really spoiled
If all you do is game its fine really
consumers are nowhere near 99% of the people buying gpus
I wouldn't say 99% but pretty close, sure, I do think that as locally run LLMs/assistants get better then it'll be more common to buy a PC with two GPUs, one for the AI and one for the graphics
what you'd wanted to say is the 6800XT's performance would be crippled in the games you run.
There is a reason why i went with a 3090ti at home considering my work laptop is an RTX A5500 quadro
I mean they'll call it something other than a GPU and it'll be tweaked different, marketed as a "neural chip" or whatever tf they wanna call it
I have 2 GPUs cause I'm big dumb
NOPE lol
I want a second GPU so I can do VFIO passthrough and minimize my Windows
you are sg right?
kid at heart
I rest my case
Virtual Fucking IO?
Imagine wanting to be an adult.
i wanna see rabbit try and optimize MSFS
no? I'm Chinese... but I live in Canada
So you’re Canadian
Yeah that one, funny enough I think I made the same joke a while back lmao
shit take
Is there another channel to ask about tech problems, i posted something in tech support but no one replied
no?
The F stands for Function
The most boring thing in the world. I would never touch.
Oooo
Nationality is Canadian, ethnicity is Chinese
Tech chat
If you're not familiar, basically I could have a virtual machine and pass the GPU to it so it performs near the quality of a host OS, so I could run anything as my host and game in a virtual machine.
Alternatively, I could watch a video and train an AI in the background
Ohhhhh VFIO means that?
I gotchu
Flight sim is the equivalent of reading Romeo and juliet
Blah. All made-up lines on a map nonsense conjured up by racist colonisers over the span of 1000 years
R&J is a really funny story
GPU Passthrough is done with VFIO (mostly, afaik)
how are you comparing playing a flight simulator to reading literature
Msfs is a good gateway into the flight industry for beginners
It's like the underlying system to a GPU passthrough setup I think @full fossil
Shakespeare at that
But it also works for USBs and etc
It's boring af
in your opinion
Which flight simulator though, because like DCS is pretty fun ngl
Shakespeare is boring cause you haven't done anything with it
Ace Combat is a good sim. 
You can't do GPU Passthrough on Windows (with a spare GPU)?
only intresting if you have a whole setup with VR and all
Dafuq do you do with lit?
War Thunder is the best sim, just don't feed the snail
doesnt nvidia outright block that ability?
Seems like it takes work no matter where you do it XD
iono ¯_(ツ)_/¯
the only way to have fun in the game is feed the snail, gaijin ruined it
everybodies been boycotting them last couple weeks
Not if you're a masochist and you're willing to grind for ages. But yeah the boycott has taken its toll, it's pretty funny.
Fail boycott
yeah its pretty hilarious 80% of 17,000 recent reviews are negative
Steam undid most of the damage
If there's one thing I don't go by. It's steam reviews
oh damn that dude has 2,200,000+ steam points now
I only have 2200
:(
i have 115,000
think i had like 400k peak but i spent it buying a ton of profile things
I've been on steam 18? Years now.
I'd rather run Linux on the host and Windows in the VM anyway
12 years for me and my dads steam account is older than me
You were born after 2003?
Now it makes sense why you keep saying 4090 is best. You're not old enough to understand.
nonsense
a card running 45fps on msfs is nothing compared to 82fps 4090
4090 on average is 20% better than an XTX
I didn't know they disallowed it, something to look out for. Looks like it's a kernel flag on linux that may or may not help prevent the hardware from recognizing it's being used in a virtualized environment. Why tf would they set it up like that?
HAHAHAHA shut up
@full fossil like from the gpu out through the igpu path?
^
Hi can someone tell me if i5-7600k is compatible with msi hm110 pro-vd?
This is, in the vernacular of today's troubled youth, quite "wack".
and for rasterization? 25%
Is it worrying if my gpu is "performing below 65th percentile" on userbenchmark? All my other components are running average (or so userbenchmark says)
@full fossil ahh ok.
DLSS 3 is also better than FSR 2
Silicon Lottery my friend
FSR is still good, just not as good
What...?
No it's fine
It's also saying 32.5% below average bench?
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4n7sly/what_is_the_silicon_lottery/
When chip manufacturers like Intel, TSMC, UMC, GF, etc. make wafers, there are slight variations in material quality across the wafer surface, there are local variations in how the lithography, metal vapor deposition, photoresist chemical deposition, etc. are done and this can yield a significant contrast between how good the best chip of a given batch will perform vs how bad the worst chip of the same batch will perform.
When you get a better chip that will in essence overclock better you have thus won the silicon lottery.
absolute nightmare for anticheat
justifying 4090 vs 7900XTX, DLSS 3 being better is certainly relevant
Ok so I may have gotten a bad batch? But there's also the fact that I feel like my computer has been performing worse in games lately.
If it works it's not necessarily a bad batch, it's just a worse performing batch than the others.
If the problem is recent it could be something else tho
I've also tested on passmark, which gives somewhat the same results, that some components are performing considerably below average
Does it work to play the games you're playing?
As fun as it is to benchmark things, it's really just a pissing contest.
What do you mean? are you asking if it's running games? then yes but my performance has gotten worse (I think. I've not actually measured it) which is leading to problems.
Well benchmarking stuff isn't going to tell you much. You got hwinfo64? What's the Temps looking like.
hi
What kind of issues are you having to start with.
Personally, I enjoy winning pissing contests. I maintain a diet of soups, teas, coffees, and water, and maintain a constant supply of similar diuretics
I think my fps is getting lower recently in the same games
I can vibe with this
Temps are fine
You think or you know? Placebo is a hell of a thing.
Fuckin hate placebos when I know better than the person with the placebo effect, but they can't change their ways
I'm pretty certain of it. I usually check fps of my games. Also stuttering
Games start to run worse after playing for a while
Perhaps it's an issue elsewhere. RAM constraints? CPU performance? Are you sure you're checking your temps using like HWMonitor or something?
Is your BIOS up to date?
You got them new fancy drivers?
Tell me about it. Apparently 6800 can't get more than 60 fps at 4k max settings on games. Idk what I'm talking about though.
You got antivirus? Got any bitcoin miners or RATs on your machine?
BIOS update lol
does anyone know if building a pc is a good idea if I suck at most technology-related things
Building a PC is a lot like building a couch from IKEA
So confusing but worth it?
You follow the directions, or watch a video online
Also I can’t get ikea in my country
Building a pc is pretty ez even the Verge was able to make one... Oh wait.. nevermind
Yeah it can be, and once you get the hang of it you can do it again no problem
Ok thx
PCs are full of weird, fake swedish words?
Temps are fine. I've stresstested my computer several times, even the gpu never rose above 80. If it was cpu or ram performance, do you really think that games would perform worse over time? I free up plenty of ram all the time. BIOS is upto date ( Pretty old motherboard so up to date as can be). Yes I've installed recent drivers (not the latest as it was causing issues) Only antivirus is windows defender. Don't think I have any bitcoin miners or anything.
My favorite swedish words are made up, like if I say things like Haͤrgenflaͤrgen
that sounds French 🥖🥖
Didn't mean to put the reaction lmao, how much RAM do you have?
not at all
oui
I only know the following phrase in French:
Mon Bite Est Moyen
It's all I need to pick up chicks in Paris
bite?
Bounjiur, yû śhałl be singèle for yur lifè
You might ask in tech chat or tech-support because that's where the pros like to live, public chat is often looked down upon for the heresy and memery
like what?
Translate “sushi in a lighthouse” to Latvian
This isn't necessarily true. I'm in all three.
Like recently my buddy was using the private VPN I set up on a VPS I have and was asking me to restart the server so he'd get better performance, but I knew it wouldn't change anything since that server does nothing but the VPN. So I spent an hour speedtesting before and after with outline vpn and wireguard and raw on the PC and server to show the change was nonexistent/negligible but he was quite blue-pilled
I have a core i69, 21 sticks of 1 tb ram, 17 different motherboards, a McDonald’s salt cooler system all inside a brick case.
It runs at -7 fps
I enjoy this meme, thank you. It reminds me of a particular DEA agent.
the standard for gaming these days is 16gb, what games are you playing?
Destiny and some older singleplayer games
That could very much be the cause of your stutter
Nvm its -69420 fps now I turned off the salt cooler
Trust me tho, games I was playing were running fine before. It's the sudden performance drop which is concerning
And I'm guessing there were no updates, you don't have chrome or any other memory hog running in the background?
Can someone rate my pc
Playing destiny?
No, the RAM
Well there's frequent game updates (it's a live service game) and such but system updates no not really
Your PC is like a flower in a garden, unique and special, I wish to crush it into bits and use it to scent my bathroom.
And when you play you have nothing running in the background?
Most of the time no
Is it a single stick or two sticks of 4gb?
I use the pc as a bathroom
2 sticks
Also no overclocks as they crash my games
I'm not sure tbh, all I know is 8gb is very little for gaming, but the destiny 2 system requirements does say it's the recommended minimum so I mean it's hard to say
If it's stuttering or having worse FPS in your older singleplayer games as well then it could be something else, you said you stress tested everything?
yup everything
there was also some screen tearing a bit back (just normally using windows) but it stopped
guys my McDonald’s salt cooler has a leak my pc is salty
I’m looking to build a pc, idk what parts to get though, anyone wanna help?
omg the bot blocked my latin
i finally got my pc\
In that case then your PC is like a toilet, and I am secretly a member of a hidden global organization, we call ourselves the Council of Defecation, and we enforce toilet etiquette. Your PC is thusly proclaimed to be a toilet and shall be treated as such.
You could be looking at GPU issues then, I remember I had some issues with my old one where I'd BSOD and whatnot occasionally. Hard to say for sure.
It would be wild if it was actually your monitor after all this time.





Yeah that'd be really unfortunate. I've considered it before, and it may be the perpetrator from what prior research I did

Time will tell, ig
It's always time for a new PC

any1 have a opinion on this build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CkcLhk
Looks good to me atm
ok
I have a question on how patreon works in general. If I become a patron today, will I be able to access all the previous posts that my tier could access?
Yeah that's pretty much how it works



With the loss of RARBG where is everyone migrating to?
Wat
I've never used RARBG tbh
But we're not supposed to talk about the specific of that kind of activity here 
- Do not illegally share content. The discussion of piracy/torrenting is allowed on a broad scale, but specific discussion of DRM circumvention is not allowed. Your best bet is to link to the author's official source of the content.
mate if I had the cash this 7 year old pc would be long gone
I'm just gonna last it till it gives out
Just looking to see where the free linux iso community is migrating too.
is anyone here actually insane enough to use circular keycaps
Yes
Could always try to reformat and run that Atlas OS that LTT talked about
Idk what that is I don't watch him lol
I got my mom a bluetooth keyboard that resembles an old typewriter, she likes it
@gilded forge you were saying?
im bored what should i do ?
https://atlasos.net/ At your own risk
Atlas is a transparent and streamlined modification of Windows. Designed to maximize your system's performance and optimize latency.
LEGO
Learn a new, exciting, skill.
Is that the Logitech swag?
Also I just like window's reliability and compatibility
Imagine being bored.
Okay so look at the link lol
Me every day
i dont even know what to do whit them anymore
What are the risks?
Build more
such as ?
@winged yarrow nah. It’s a Chinese brand, now defunct
i cant, there is lego everywhere
Build more tho
It's a tool that streamlines Windows, there are videos on it you should check out if you want your PC to run smoother and be more streamlined as such an old age.
alr
Lube keyboard switches
I'll see. Has it really resulted in performance increases? and is it significant?
cant, keyboard not hot swap, and fuck lube, along whit the lack of it
idk, programming, electrical engineering, 3d printing, welding, mechanical engineering, car fixing, stamp collecting, coin flipping, coin collecting, pog collecting, AC fixing, house repair, keyboard building
Look up a video, I am not God I have not all the answers
Fuck lube is for something else...
i meant fuck lube not fuck lube
yeah why not
ok thanks
Usually because of laziness, but some of those sound fun
If you get good at all of them in the list you can become a supervillain with a base and an army of robots
im already a supervillain, i sneak into house, and bend cpu pin, unplug one cable of the psu, then eat the floor before running away
This is like that one SNL sketch of the evilest supervillain conference with Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.
hey there
i wanna buy a shirt and a hoodie but the size guide only helps with chest and hip width, not the length from shoulder to hip.
has anybody a XXL shirt/hoodie and can tell me how long it is?
ty:)
what is your floor made of
everything
Wait it's a trick question: Molecules
Vinyl -> Wood -> Concrete -> Dirt, Vinyl -> Wood -> Dirt, Wood -> Dirt, and Vinyl -> Concrete -> Dirt depending on where I am
hype, we'll discuss tech tips together
if i can taste that floor first why not
If you are receiving my tech tip then you may be tasting the floor.
But that's all I dare to say
Good day, sir.
ew clean it
what's the best debloater for windows?
kb

installing linux
ironically, to summon a linux entity, the ritual is to say windows
or that
That last amd gpu driver update made my pc reqly unstable
For fucks sake amd didnt you learn from the 5000x launch
Launch was a nightmare i heqrd
Its the 6650xt imnusing atn
Fuck i think i started turturing myself
I never played dark souls but now im startingmwith elden ring
Elden Ring > Dark Souls
I know horever elden is way bmore vast
It's vastly superior especially in the control/mechanics sense for a modern gaming experience.
You're right.
Im already confused af after just leaving the funcking starting area
Like tf am i supposed to do? I know thatbthis dide on a jorse is not an fight for me atm tho
Of course it is....
Did you talk to the guy with the mask
Varre
I dont find anything he says of help
Go to the church that you see
Its triggering me so hard that the running is on O and sneakimg on l3
Inb4 public chat becomes an Elden Ring walk-through chat.
But he tells you to follow the way the campfire points
lol. I've gotten higher speeds on T-Mobile 5G than my Gigabit Fiber at home.
Download atleast
the maidenless mofo?
Yes
okaz i suck at elden ring i cant deal with the controller lazouts
dunno i lend it from my library
we need elden ring battle royale
like i dont pay 70bucks for a game where i will rage quit every 5 minutes
agreed
You got elden ring from the library???
yes
Dafuq library is that. That's cool af.
wtf
they even have halo cod etc
disc games?? if only disc games were a thing for pc still
i genuinely miss owning discs
I'm surprised they haven't locked physical disk down with like 5 console limit DRMs
I don't. I love not having to worry about space.
Anyone know how to reach Jensen? Just found a server over 100 lbs, heavier than the "heaviest ever." I wish to challenge him for this title.
i miss em to cuz when you physically own it whos gonna take it from you do to licensing bullshit etc
Yea he's my emergency contact gimme a min
Cheers thanks bro
When corporations start revoking the right to privately owned property digitally. There's gonna be bigger problems than "haha suckers I got a physical copy" just wanna make that clear.
Guys, if I buy a pack of 3 Corsair ql120 fans, does the kit come with everything I need to use them or do I need to get the commander pro thingy
i only know that the aios come with em
nice all my controllers now hang under my monitor stand
Well... Birthdays in two weeks but I'm working so... Guess I'll do Moe's and chic FIL a for dinner post work cause I am not seeing any other good birthday deals. Anyone know of some on the USA I should look for to get free stuff on your birthday?
Red Robin's
But they are all birthday month I mean purely on birthday
What do you mean exactly then. I guess I'm not understanding.
You want free shit for your birthday right?
Yes
On my birthday. So I can try and plan my pre and post work stuff. Red Robbin is valid all month so I don't need to plan as much.
Ah I see what you're saying now.
hi
Hi
I love how Linus is talking about that direct die frame keeping the dies from cracking, yet he's showing us up close that it is cracked lol https://youtu.be/LuVpwB1s8iU?t=365
2nd ccd on the bottom right corner
it's be funny to see a dude in a suit come to your front door and say "hi, you have breached your licensing agreement. come with me."
and that little chip can easily kill a cpu, (teenage me being upset with a tiny tiny tiny chip on my athlon xp killing it)
I still have that cpu in a box of other random pulls from over the years as well
Reddit charging $12,000 for 50 million third party API calls
Bye reddit
i would not cry reddit being gone
ikr
I use it for news and stuff
i swear to good some stuff on reddit is the darkest parts of humanity
reddit is tame compared to how it was a few years ago
i get news from nowhere
they cracked down on lots of the disgusting/illegal shit
my take about news? fuck it all
bruh I only use twitter in desktop because I can't stand not having Twidere back. I've used Boost for reddit for so many years niw
yeah but its just going to thermal throttle when you run anything thats under heavy load
Wow Linus looks sleep deprived in that Noctua video
i would
i get a TON of information from some of the forums
that and Quora
Quora is pretty dogshit but typically, some random dude on Quora or Reddit had the same issue you did, like a decade ago
Does Noctua recommend me buying the new NHD-15 for a 65w CPU? No. Am I going to do it anyways cause that cooler looks really awesome? Probably.
Yeah, it's not gonna give me any performance, but it looks awesome and basically guaranteed to be silent due to the low load

i have an 240mm aio on an 40ish watt cpu

🤷♂️ and somehow the cheap chinese rgb fans are quiet and strong enough for that radiator
I got the be quiet! pure rock 2 on my 3800X. Works perfectly fine.
my first pc cooler upgrade was the pure rock slim 2
but that was basicly a decade ago
be quiet is a great cooler brand that nobody ever really talks about
They are juuuuust under Noctua in performance
my aio is from bequiets daughter company to my knowledge
nut to be honest the core of the fans mostly come from the same manufatorers anyways, only the fan blades and casing looks and perform different
to my knowledge its xilence
and they are actually more ugly as noctuas
red NOT RGB red just looks bad
rgb requires different plastics which can be a downgrade to a fan (cue p12 and p12 argb)
you're better off buying a pa120 or smth
It's smaller, performs as good, the fans are worse but you can replace them easily with better fans, and most importantly its cheap
thermalright c12cs?
I have returned

if you mean the fans its uphere fans
🤔 fuck i have to much time and boredom
I mean
I used a Prolimatech Megahalem for an i3 4170 build
with two fans too
and if you wonder how big it is, #screenshots message
i started learning making molds with fusion360 and welp i never gonna use em xD
Lisa Su and Jensen Huang are quite similar
Both Born in Tainan
Both immigrated to the US
Both CEO's of semiconductor companies
Where is Tainan
Is the ltt mini screwdriver on sale?
Where is Tainan (2)
Taiwan
btw speaking of LTT screwdriver
thoughts on noctua ltt screwdriver
Thanks Mr. CIA
what it gonna do? add cooling to the LTT driver??
It better be the best screwdriver in existence
Ranked top #1 on tech screwdriver articles
Just use their pantone colors
How dare you mention Pantones in this chat
Handle will always be slightly uncomfortably cold
is anybody else OCD about their file organization
Rip
I never like how my files are organized and it drives me insane.
5 for 10bucks
c12 c is 3 for 12 bucks but are more reliable and perform better
me sometimes
Yes, which is why I hide the icons on my desktop
well the propriartary controller was dead but that was fixed with 5 bucks amazon next day delivery
Why not lapping the 7000 series instead of delidding?
And putting spacers in the cpu 'backplate' (behind the motherboard) to just compensate for the height?
same #screenshots message
I just realized
this server never had a vintage hardware channel
It's because it still falls under the same category as the other stuff
makes sense ig
always. I have an hdd that just has everything on like 20 different subfolders
You'd be surprised how often us OS Agnostics are willing to discuss any and all flavors of firmware
🙏
Who is the female equivalent of Ryan Reynolds
Aubrey Plaza
Christina Hendricks in Firefly
depends on the roles, btw very broad question; playful comedic and having a great character.
Adored by the masses
Lara croft actress for a while?
I really hope I can find Baja blast in stores soon
Not gonna happen, god damn Taco Bell treasonist
You can tho
Honestly, how dare you speak against the KING?
Oh yeah you can just buy Baja Blast too ig
Doesn't count, not the same, if it ain't comin from a tap, it wack
How do I dare speak out against Burger King... With my mouth and thumb. And we don't have a taco bell within ,30 mins so.... You wanna pay my gas?
Not in my area yet.
What's the local cost atm
I was talking about Taco Bell, Taco Bell is the king.
Of gas for my engine 4.45$ a gallon
Ew
Nah fuck that. You paying way too much you on the west coast?
Cheaper to get an EV at that point, that price is disgusting
You live on an island?
RIP reddit. $20,000,000/yr for third party app API use
Would be cheaper to get a bicycle with a giant fly-wheel
I mean we have other things just not a taco bell..
And I only drive my car like 2 maybe ,3 times a week.
Now THAT, in the vernacular of the modern youth, is wack
Which is why having bought it on 8/1/21 it has less than 8,000 miles on it.
With gas prices like those, I'd sure hope you barely drove
Sounds like a premium opportunity for an EV
Not at all.
We have no external power and my landlord is not going to install it so... Not useful for an ev
Even with the low solar charge you'd have, it would definitely be better for an EV, even if you had to purchase a heated garage, purchase an array of solar panels, set up the wiring and the batteries, it would be cheaper than a full tank of gas for 10 years
As well as I work from home so it's literally grocery shopping or going to play magic the gathering and micro center are why I drive.
Find a used Kia Soul EV for $16k and get $4k back via taxes. 113mi of highway range, more with city driving. Charges overnight even on an extension cord
I rent not own I can't get a garage or do any of the rest your saying.
Tax credits vary on area...and often don't apply to used evs ...
EVEN IF you had to purchase land to do all of that, it would be cheaper than a full tank of gas for 10 years
You do realize that I use like 30$ of gas a month tops?
Ridiculous
$4k is nationwide for used EVs per the inflation reduction act
Frankly, appalling you have to spend that much on gas
30$ a month... For total usage of gas for my car is not that bad.
You gotta link for that?
It's the price of a gym membership
People pay for those?
Only fat people
Beginning January 1, 2023, if you buy a qualified used electric vehicle (EV) or fuel cell vehicle (FCV) from a licensed dealer for $25,000 or less, you may be eligible for a used clean vehicle tax credit (also referred to as a previously owned clean vehicle credit). The credit equals 30% of the sale price up to a maximum credit of $4,000.
The c...
yeah, ,i dont understand gym memberships... just keep your money, and run outside, or cycle outside...
I just walk for cardio and I don't lift as much anymore
Is the ltt mini screwdriver on sale?
Outside is hot
and?
I'm fragile /s
Also yeah it depends on where you live lmao it gets to 105 here + humid + mosquitos and it's like bruh why did my ancestors think this was a good idea
-10c or +30c outside here, ill be in shorts and tshirt, running, or cycling 🙂
105 is 40c
I mean we hit 100f in the summer regularly that's when I just walk around when the sun goes down or walk around the Walmart doing laps when it's late
Why walk around Walmart for free, when you can work for them and make money
yes... yet world class runners use that as their minimum training temp
Cause it's air conditioned...
How many people fall under the category of world class runner?
It's like 36c atm
And cause I work for a insurance company making far more than I would at Walmart
Well I am one
Back when I worked Walmart I got like 4mi a day in
Which I am doing while chatting here.
not a lot, but, humans are perfectly capable of running in that heat, its just that most people are too soft to try
Soft isn't the words I'd use
ive ran in 40c+, and im no world class runner... i just convinced myself that if i didnt run that day, i wasnt having the food i wanted to eat later on that day
I just don't wanna run because I'm in a time warner cable commercial-style rut, I like bicycling more
Lmfao fucking goof ahh
I can't run I have a bad knee
Low impact. Swimming, elliptical, etc
I hate swimming 😂
i have a missing ligament in my right knee... a 65 yo friend of mine has 2 replacement knees... a 64 yo friend of mine has her leg fused at the knee... we all run
I just admit I hate working out so I don't do it. Not gonna lie. I did it for a living for 5 years.
We get it boomer.
and those 60+yos are better runners than some 20yos i know
I would swim if there was a good place to do it that was open later in the day
Scar tissue is holding my right kneecap
im a millennial, dont use an insult if you dont understand it
does anyone know if there's an app that can give back android auto or auto-like functionality back to the phone?
OK boomer.
Hello there

People who own houses are boomers in my book
Anyone that lives in utah is a nerd
People who act high and mighty and think being in pain is a personality trait and telling people there's no excuses ever are boomers in my book.
That's it I'm building a dam on the border of Arizona to block you from the Colorado river
i never said i was in pain, and i never said theres no excuses, what im saying is, that a lot of the excuses that people make, are just that, excuses that boil down to "i just dont want to"
Try me bitch
Which is perfectly fine.
and if you "just dont want to"... then just say that... dont make excuses... not wanting to do is perfectly fine
But the mormons!
They believe they we had a giant civilization in North America before the pioneers and everybody else
They believe nothing more outrageous than most more-than-philosophical belief systems.
Yes
meta quest 3 getting revealed tomorrow 👀
nice, for 5000$
idk its supposed to be a "consumer device"
This is getting racist
price is speculated to be around $600-$700
Joke joke joke joke
State-ist *
No it's locationist
Oh wait thats right were allowed to mock our own country?
ok this price is ... acceptable ... maybe
i dont want to complain
its ok though
also new controller design
Listen he was only saying that anybody born within a predetermined radius of the following coordinates (39.419220, -111.950684) are nerds
yes, for me its to expensive but ye
Sound accurate imagine not living at 0, 0
nvm its supposed to be under $500 US
dont you want to have your website https://sites.google.com/view/romgi-productions/home on an own domain?
nah sites.google.com is the best domain
Pssh I wish I could afford to live there
(i own google)
Skill issurv
okay...
where can i contact the mods? should i ping they?
I also own microsoft, amazon, apple, tencent, and valve
i have only a question
send me a steam deck
My dad works at nintendo
multi core im guessing?
lol would be quite the overclock if that was single core 💀
oh fr I wouldve thought a 13900k would dominate single core
also, it depends where the cpu was cut from on the silicon wafer
centre pieces tend to be slightly better
dont they all get binned to ks processors though
yeah
I think so
im gonna build in the new fractal sff case in a few months i think to finish off my build
intel also has special "golden" cpu's where its guaranteed to be the best possible cut
but that means i will temporarily have an itx mobo in an atx full tower case
and those are reserved for special customers
do they even still make those
like linus
which will be so weird looking
and aren't those just the special edition ks chips now
which is just better binned 13900k/12900k
"i won the silicon lottery" mfs when they get 1 more fps than the average cpu
bin the ks chips lmao
mfs who dont even oc
🤔 okay i think the next 3D printer i will get will be one i make myself
the ks chip is already the top bin, that's why they're rare as fuck
i just saw 1300x1300 heated beds
im buying intel cpu intel gpu to try out deeplink
I have a friend who said he won the silicon lottery with his 3060 and he said that it performs better than the average 3070 💀
average nvidia purchaser
average ati purchaser
💀 how
im literally buying a 13400 non f
you can find cheap computers on facebook marketplace from moms who have gotten mad at their kids and sold their pc for cheap

