public-chat

[feral spire]

if you know why did you say this

of course, the 3d v cache is quite sensitive, which is why overclocking is locked for them

though the root cause is still the motherboard overvolting the CPU without consent

[wispy marsh]

Ah yes, non-consent is very dangerous

[wind pulsar]

I'm not recommending it to overclock, it's more or less pointless these days anyway- it's just the only CPU in 13th gen right now that actually makes sense getting in every spectrum

[sharp bobcat]

what about 13500

[wind pulsar]

Has been bloated, not worth it

[sharp bobcat]

because if you actually want to recommend not OCing the CPU and just leave it at default

[stone herald]

Hello

[wind pulsar]

That's a dumb argument, why would you not get a 13600K just because you can overclock on it

The 13600K isn't just for overclocking?

[feral spire]

anyhow, feels weird to be back in this server

[sharp bobcat]

I didn't even say it's for OC only

[unique shard]

if i upgrade to a 5600x now how long would i be able to use before havign to update while still being able to play games with good performance

[feral spire]

the only reason why i returned here is because i was alerted of bad recommendations/takes from koki and koki told me to search through his messages to find them

but in other servers, im koki's arch nemesis

[wind pulsar]

Implying it by saying you should go for the 13500 instead is literally the same thing lol

[vapid canyon]

Even if it’s pointless I still do it for fun because why not

If I wanted actual better performance I would’ve bought a faster cpu to start off with

[wind pulsar]

Sure ig

[sharp bobcat]

tho yea, this

[feral spire]

what cooler you planning to use on it?

[wind pulsar]

Zamn, so far the only bad takes have been coming from Koki, so idk what they were talking about

[vapid canyon]

X63 is what Im currently using

It only keeps it cool if it’s under 5.6ghz

Won’t boot at 5.7

[feral spire]

i have seen a stinking pile of them

also, i checked out the pcpartpicker list from your bio

hot damn, 128gb RAM, though, what speed are you able to achieve since you are on zen 4?

[wind pulsar]

Just barely full speeds, it really helped that it's 5600 MT/s

[feral spire]

i see

[wind pulsar]

Though I wouldn't have minded it if it would run CL30, since that's still 10ns

[feral spire]

the zen 4 IMC sucks lol

[sharp bobcat]

what do you want me to do then? Also just an FYI I know Min and he usually recommends AM5 for 'better long term CPU support'

[wind pulsar]

13th gen wouldn't be able to run more than that either, that's just how it is with first to second generation products

[feral spire]

yeah

[vapid canyon]

12th was actually first gen for lga 1700

[wind pulsar]

Can't be that hard to read, can it

[feral spire]

anyhow, good to meet you all

[sharp bobcat]

[feral spire]

something i should have said sooner

[sharp bobcat]

welcome back ig

[feral spire]

its a bruh moment to greet everyone?

[vapid canyon]

Misread, just woke up and not paying full attention

[full fossil]

OMG

[full fossil]

socialization must be weird for you

[distant cargo]

I just realized my butt has recoil

[feral spire]

big oof

[wispy marsh]

Has nms really existed for 7 years already?

[sharp bobcat]

it's not what I mean

I know the guy and we argue a lot sometimes

[sharp bobcat]

yeah

[wispy marsh]

I swear w3 was released only last year

[sharp bobcat]

crazy part is that the industry nowadays doesn't seems to learn anything from them about not fucking up releases and making a bullcrap statement or copypasta apology

they literally went silent for what, three and half years after the initial release? Then the game was in MUCH better state and received a lot of praise since then. No copypasta apology, no nothing, just the devs forgot to pick their award trophy because they were having lunch

[wispy marsh]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sharp bobcat]

hell they even have the balls to criticize EA for 'just stfu and fix the game, don't post anything stupid, don't post any copypasta PR statement'

that was in 2019 or late 2018 iirc

[wispy marsh]

Wow, 2016

[wind pulsar]

And in development since 2013

[wispy marsh]

I bought astlibra yesterday

No more AAA for me for a while

[sharp bobcat]

SF6 doing good rn

well, capcom in general recently

and hifi rush is just based

[wispy marsh]

Capcom just released dmc5, did they not

[real schooner]

Nms?

[sharp bobcat]

no. 2019

[sharp bobcat]

No Man's Sky

[wispy marsh]

I swear it was last year they released dmc5

[dusty rune]

nah its really old

[sharp bobcat]

[wispy marsh]

I'm old, you mean

[dusty rune]

sure

[wispy marsh]

I can't play games at the hardest difficulty anymore

[dusty rune]

dmc5 is easily one of the games of all time

[wispy marsh]

The reaction time you need is way too low

[dusty rune]

i like the guy that beat vergil without attacking on dmd

[sharp bobcat]

oh also respect to capcom they still literally give SF6 a benchmark tool

[dusty rune]

nvm, royal guard only

[wispy marsh]

Doesnt rg do damage too?

[dusty rune]

yeah if you stack it then unleash it deals a lot

[wispy marsh]

From what i saw in dmc4, rg has insane damage pot

[dusty rune]

mb, i meant to say without getting damaged and only rg

6 minute fight lol

[wispy marsh]

No rg in dmc remake

[dusty rune]

the skill to do that is insane

tbh, fighting the normal demons is prob harder than the vergil boss fightt

[unique shard]

i am currently running a ryzen 5 2600 with an a320 with an rtx 2070. If I upgrade now to a 5600 and a b550 then upgrade my gpu later on, how long would that be good for before i have to upgrade to a ddr5 cpu and mobo (i want to be able to get 144+ fps on games like warzone and fortnite)

[dusty rune]

ive had a much easier time with vergil than those red demons that dont ever die

[dusty rune]

you could just buy a 5600 rn without a new motherboard

[unique shard]

really?

[dusty rune]

if you update bios sure

[unique shard]

i thought the a320 was extremely outdated

[dusty rune]

its still AM4

[unique shard]

it doesnt even have support for bios updates anymore im pretty sure

[dusty rune]

it should support a 5600

[unique shard]

ive looked and i couldnt find them

[dusty rune]

which A320 board is it?

[wispy marsh]

inb4 mining boards

[dusty rune]

id giggle

[unique shard]

its an old asus board

[dusty rune]

asus prime?

[unique shard]

yes

[dusty rune]

prime a320m-k?

[unique shard]

a320m-a

[crude jasper]

m-a models are more common

[dusty rune]

yeah it supports

with the newest bios it does

[last solstice]

I need to touch grass more often

[wispy marsh]

Couille bleu is the best cologne

[last solstice]

Bet showering is better

[sharp bobcat]

yea with a bios update only

[wispy marsh]

With showering

[unique shard]

showering is overrated

8 months strong no showering

[sharp bobcat]

[dusty rune]

anyway, update ur bios, buy a 5600 for like 100$ and call it a day tbh

[tender wyvern]

My friend invited me to do go-karting and then the next YouTube short is someone go-karting on that exact same track what are the chances wtf

[dusty rune]

or a 5800x3d if you want it to last longer

[full fossil]

Fr you gotta keep up that cool anime aura

[civic quiver]

Don't some newer AM4 boards are already Ryzen 5000 compatible?

[dusty rune]

although thats sketch

[civic quiver]

also helo

[dusty rune]

we are talking about an old-ish a320

[civic quiver]

ah

[dusty rune]

bought before release of 5600

[sharp bobcat]

[feral spire]

Hello

[last solstice]

This is why everyone should be afraid of the future

AGH WHY DID i decide to wake up on 6 am

[sharp bobcat]

wait, a hundred bucks?

[dusty rune]

something about that

[unique shard]

130 right now

[sharp bobcat]

I see one that goes as low as 85

nvm it's a 5500

121 is the lowest ig, and that's on amazon

[sharp bobcat]

with you on that yt short as well?

[minor rivet]

Is it okay to fidget with ratcheting screwdriver?

[manic torrent]

Why wouldn't it be

[pliant leaf]

they all are

even older b4 boards

[crude jasper]

b350s and x370s support 5000

[minor rivet]

Idk I just got hands on my first ratcheting stuff n have no knowledge abt it so just wanted to make sure I don't mess anything up

[crude jasper]

you will not fuck it up

just don't go trying to torque shit to 30lb+

that in itself will be hard

[tender wyvern]

No ofc not

[sharp bobcat]

[wispy marsh]

I just had a mala chicken wasabi kebab. It was good.

[full fossil]

I want chicken marsala

[unreal anchor]

It sounds good

Damn it, now I want lunch

[full fossil]

I also want mashed potatoes

And gravy

[unreal anchor]

I’ll settle for Raman

[prisma sail]

I am also hungry now

[full fossil]

I don’t have any marsala wine at home

😢

[wispy marsh]

Masala dhosai with vadai

[unreal anchor]

Eh, I’ll read to distract me from food thoughts

it might work.

[wispy marsh]

https://www.recipetineats.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Chicken-Doner-Kebab-2.jpg

[unreal anchor]

NO

book thoughts book thoughts book thoughts book thoughts book thoughts

[feral rampart]

yo chat

random qn

[unreal anchor]

I have a random answer

[feral rampart]

How come monitor 1 flickers when you turn on A 2nd display?

[wispy marsh]

Magic

[unreal anchor]

Establishing a connection to the second monitor, would be my guess

[feral rampart]

Thank you

[unreal anchor]

Back to my book I go, to ignore food

[feral rampart]

i do not have the luxury of missing food, if i do. rip

diabetus, now go eat

[unreal anchor]

I’m surprised I’m not diabetic with the stuff I eat. and as for not eating I’m trying to lose some weight

[feral rampart]

fast once a week if you wanna lose weight

[unreal anchor]

I’ll just forgo lunch or cut out on eating desserts

[feral rampart]

fiber helped me out alot in keeping a healthy weight

[small zephyr]

🤔 how extreme would an 32bit intel atom bottleneck an 6650xt?

[unreal anchor]

it’d be a lot easier to lose weight if I didn’t live in the country of bakeries

[feral rampart]

brown bread

boom

[unreal anchor]

If only Germany had cheap brown bread. Weight loss would’ve been easy

[small zephyr]

every bread is kinda brown?

and go buy bread by aldi lidl or netto etc the super market breads are actually kinda good

[unreal anchor]

Netto, the toast bread from there is pretty good

[feral rampart]

the type of flour for brown bread is different from regular bread

[small zephyr]

😂 okay i think the intel atom n280 in my thin client would bottleneck an 6650xt like crazy

single core 32bit at 1,66ghz

[feral rampart]

whole wheat flour

[small zephyr]

🤔 now i know whyn that thin client is so slow i thought it was the weird ide stlye ssd thingy but i suspect the cpu more now

[small zephyr]

EVERY bread with the exeption of toast is whole wheat or other grains bread

[unreal anchor]

Interestinnng makes a note for the future about that

[feral rampart]

i got 3.2 ghz in my 2011 4 core

[small zephyr]

like dinkel or roggen dunno how they are called in english tho

[gentle slate]

I will be ordering my phone today

[feral rampart]

and unsure about this one

4.2 Ghz

[small zephyr]

😭 fuck mihoyo is such a dick in terms of charater banners atm

[feral rampart]

i checked task manager

[unreal anchor]

Those are usually more expensive than the kaiserbrötchen (king bread rolls) or sonntagsbrötchen (Sunday bread rolls)

[small zephyr]

4 banenrs in a row give GREAT chars

[full fossil]

Send chicken marsala pics

[small zephyr]

yeah horever 50cents is still okay compared to the 5bucks on the bakery

[unreal anchor]

Just used deepl. Spelt and rye

[small zephyr]

and no one should get the kaiser one just get the sonntags theya re worlds above

or the good old mohnbrötchen xD

[wispy marsh]

no

[full fossil]

😭

[small zephyr]

lol i didnt knew modding genshin impact would be as easy as it is

[unreal anchor]

Anyone else read a lot here?

[small zephyr]

depents on the kind of stuff

[unreal anchor]

Science Fiction and Fantasy

[small zephyr]

i read a lots of manga/manwha/manhua

like i have prob around 1000-1500 bookmarks for manga atm

[unreal anchor]

that’s a lot

[small zephyr]

i read so much of that shit that i need to write down where im at cuz its way to much to rember else

[full fossil]

I write

[manic torrent]

Should I release my robotic process automation frontend open source?

[unreal anchor]

I just had a dumb idea involving chatgpt, html and book lists

[still light]

Yes

[unreal anchor]

Bluescreen of death on a one year old laptop. what the heck, dell?

[full fossil]

blue screen can be any issue

[unreal anchor]

No specific issue was given to me

[manic torrent]

yeah I think so too

[full fossil]

that happens

[summer folio]

1337 EU!

[unreal anchor]

You are mistaken, it’s 1338

Now 1339

[small zephyr]

i fucking hate unskipable tutorials....

press this button and then press this button i fukcing now stop foring me to take 5minutes for something thats should be done with in 30seconds

[merry gazelle]

so..

the rx6600 is 250 euro

3050 when bi ought it costed me 370 total

and they both look the same msi used the exact same design for their rx6600 and 3050 only diffrences is software i belief

i feel like crying i thought i was gettign a good deal at the time it was during the gpu shortage

[small zephyr]

i paid 340 for my 6650xt

[fossil frost]

just seen parts of the nvidia keynote from computex.... man i hate jensen huang now

[dreamy rose]

way out of touch billionaire tries sounding cool.

[fossil frost]

i knew it would happen eventually, it always does... we found something we agree on

[dreamy rose]

say what you want but there's no way Lisa Su could make a keynote feel this awful to watch.

[mighty lantern]

Is rtx 3050(95w) with mux switch better than 3050ti(85w) without mux switch?

[fossil frost]

it will be difficult to make a worse keynote than that

[dreamy rose]

a Mux switch is gonna result in more performance since it doesn't need to run through an iGPU

[mighty lantern]

So in that case is Mux switch 3050 95w going to outperform 85w 3050ti w/o mux switch?

[dreamy rose]

probably. I'm not sure how Nvidia's laptop stuff works i don't bother with that. its needlessly complicated.

[mighty lantern]

Ic

[dreamy rose]

Wattage is more important than name now it seems cause some higher wattage cards with a lesser number may outperform one with a higher number. it wont happen with a 3050/Ti though with that piddly little 4GB of VRAM

[mighty lantern]

So which would you choose?

Dell G15 or Lenovo IdeaPad gaming 3

[next nymph]

whatsupgamers

[dreamy rose]

i'd go with ideapad because that gives you Ryzen over Intel Core

[wispy marsh]

Mmh, Lenovo thinkpad with intel inside

The vastly superior laptop selection

[slim yacht]

10w different dont do much even with that mux switch. 3050/ti's mobile in general are very gimped

[dreamy rose]

though if you ask me the 3050's are stupid buys with that 4GB vram they could have had 6 like the 3060s.

though in general laptop GPUs are behind with VRAM too

[wispy marsh]

I just have a thought. With DLSS, you no longer need more than 8gb of ram for a XX60 series gpu. We'd just have $399 8060Ti with 8gb of GDDR7

[slim yacht]

i'd honestly go for dell g15. ideapad is alright, but g15 itself have alot of advantages over ideapad, especially cooling

you can easily shave off a good 15 degree's with a pad as well

[dreamy rose]

that's what Nvidia is saying. and nobody agrees with it

[wispy marsh]

If AMD improves their FSR, I am in favour of them selling a RX 9600XT with 8gb of VRAM

It would have 128-bit memory bus and have 3072 shading units, and cost $279

[mighty lantern]

Both have r5 6600h

[mighty lantern]

Ah ic

[dreamy rose]

ah good. you don't want intel for a low power laptop like this AMD is more efficient

[slim yacht]

• superior battery life (with amd) by quite far as well.

[mighty lantern]

Like those are the only ones in my budget. Taxes are sky high here in India.

Which is better between the two?

[slim yacht]

depends on the laptop youre asking. in case of g15 vs ideapad then you take g15 anyday

[wispy marsh]

If you're going for power efficiency, maybe a 12th gen intel with 2P and 6E cores would be good

[slim yacht]

3050/ti have no noticable difference at all

[mighty lantern]

And the difference there is should be compensated by mux switch+10 more tgp no?

[wispy marsh]

Intel's processors are vastly superior, that's why Apple includes them in the majority of their overall lineup and professional products

[slim yacht]

either youre willing to bet for a less desirable laptop (ideapad) or you go for an actual decent overall ones (dell g15).

[dreamy rose]

hahah. that was before 2020

[mighty lantern]

Aside from taking notes in college, it'll always be plugged in

[wispy marsh]

The Mac Pro is using an Intel workstation CPU

[dreamy rose]

Ryzen will last you longer off the wall

[wispy marsh]

It is the epitome of professional production prowess

[full fossil]

can no one tell this guy is joking

[full fossil]

thats because the 3050 is as fast as 3050 ti (which is laptop only

[slim yacht]

identical wattage also lol. even with mux you cant deduce which is faster because its not really a fast gpu either

unless youre talking 150w 3070 vs 115w 3070 in a laptop

[dreamy rose]

its basically an MX GPU now they killed those off

[full fossil]

i would not recommend 3050s unless its a desktop 3050

even at that, the only thing it beats the rx 6600 at is ray-tracing

[slim yacht]

i'd recommend rory to get dell g15 anyway over the ideapad thingy

[full fossil]

ewww ideapad

[slim yacht]

i say that because the chassis is so good, it beats legion 7i lol

ideapad is much lower in comparison to legion from lenovo's gaming line

[dreamy rose]

yeah going Radeon would probably be better too. AMD knows how to optimize a CPU/GPU combo best

[full fossil]

i agree

[mighty lantern]

Alright

[dreamy rose]

its also the fact their Advantage program makes sure you know its a good experience.

[slim yacht]

may you have an enjoyable time

[mighty lantern]

Thank you Tutel

[full fossil]

i just saw a hisense laptop wtf

[dreamy rose]

bruh my monitor is a hisense TV

[full fossil]

720p,1080p,4k?

[dreamy rose]

only 1080 60.

[full fossil]

40inch tv?

[slim barn]

240p

[dreamy rose]

24

[full fossil]

man, your rocking a crt

windows doesnt even support that

[slim barn]

Triple mounted 24" crts.

[full fossil]

that must weigh more than your mom

[slim barn]

Yup. She weighs about an urn full of ash.

[full fossil]

uhhh, sorry about that

[dreamy rose]

just looks like this.
https://www.evansclarke.com.au/detail.aspx?id=1027801

[full fossil]

that looks so bad, im gonna buy you a new one

[dreamy rose]

its not garbage but it looks like a generic early 2010s TV

[dim steppe]

any audiophiles here, does galaxy buds 2 pros sound worse on an iphone ?

[slim barn]

No worries. I get the mom jokes. I make them. I just like making people silent after lol.

Still true though.

[dreamy rose]

if you want an audiophile look through #audio-tech

[dreamy rose]

i make the other jokes.

[slim barn]

?

[dreamy rose]

dad jokes

[slim barn]

What if i'm your dad?

Joking. No one knows who your real dad is.

[dreamy rose]

my dad is a Wizard called Merasmus. he disappears fast.

[slim barn]

Even Wizards need milk.

[dreamy rose]

he also has a vandetta against a guy called Jane Doe. old roommate

[next nymph]

it looks like I'll have 6950xt pc after all ;x

pogers?

[dreamy rose]

Radeon is poggers

[next nymph]

yeeehh

rtx is a scam (rt is) amirite?

[dreamy rose]

RTX is Nvidia's marketing and yes they make it a whole RTX tax with extra pricing. have since the beginning.

[slim barn]

Only tried it with MC. Software shaders look better then RT.

[neon mesa]

minecraft shaders are so unoptimized on top of java it's more inefficient than enabling RT in games

for the top of the line shaders one that actually looks good

[slim barn]

As long as I can keep a solid fps and it looks better than RT that's all I need.

[dreamy rose]

there's better uses for RT like going the whole way with PT and going onto a more realistic game but its hard to deny that RT Minecraft looks fricking weird and cool at the same time

[slim barn]

I don't care about efficiency.

[neon mesa]

you don't care about efficiency but wants solid FPS

the less efficient it is, the less FPS you get

[slim yacht]

samsung buds might sound really pale with other phones. especially with their new ldac thing where it detects what device connects to it.

[slim barn]

No. Efficiency would be the work needed for the return.

To me shaders look better than RT and I still get decent fps.

[slim yacht]

airpods 2 pro for example with ALAC cannot utilize its feature on non ios products i.e it makes them sound very weak

samsung is doing similar thing with their buds at the moment

[slim barn]

It's a step forward I guess but yeah, I find it looks weird.

[dreamy rose]

i may Ramble on about old Sega games too much but i really would like to see this remastered with the fancy RTs and stuff. 30 years of Realtime 3D and what a difference it'd make graphically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssPfEPaTaGo

[slim barn]

Yeah. That was an awesome game.

[dreamy rose]

the same low Polly style with realistic shadows and lighting would just be Chef's kiss.

[slim barn]

If I remember rightly though it only had 3 circuits lol

[dreamy rose]

the Saturn version had quite a few more tracks to pick from and even 4 different cars to drive.

[slim barn]

Released in '95. I bought it on my birthday.

I only remember that because it was the same day as my Maths GCSE exam. I was nearly late for it because of that game.

[dreamy rose]

nearly didn't "Do The Math"

[slim barn]

Hey. Lap time is Math.

[still light]

CoolMath4Kids

[dreamy rose]

32 + 32, Do The Math, Atari Jaguar

[still light]

Let splayed lemonade stand and skimp on lemon and sugar, and max the price out. You'll eventually sell one to two cups for the day at 25 dollars a cup that's 50 bucks with your margins being so low. Usually you were the top business person in the class when you did that.

[dreamy rose]

"Blast processing?" blow it out your ass, 64 bit is here!

[slim barn]

On a similar note, Ridge Racer had the best racing soundtracks.

[next nymph]

xD

[dreamy rose]

nah. Takenobu Mitsuyoishi singlehandedly took that title.

though later he did a Song for Ridge Racer on the Vita because look who made it in as a DLC Car!

[next nymph]

my main problem with aiming for rt is that I'm gonna lose fps it seems regardless of vc, while it's not like a 165 hz qhd monitor is gonna get saturated while playing AAA titles anyway in many cases (and it's good if fps is over the hz rate of monitor afaik)

giving up fps sounds sus 2 me

[dreamy rose]

unless you still get 60s with RT enabled,

[slim barn]

I can handle RT. I just don't like it compared to shaders.

[next nymph]

why 60

[pulsar hemlock]

i have a serious question, if you have a computer that ran like a microwave, would you spend £400 on a course to teach you game programming

[dreamy rose]

because 60 is the standard for playable framerate.

[crude jasper]

no

you want like a 3600 at the least with 16gb ram

[pulsar hemlock]

i was thinking that, i have 2 groups of students, on with nasa computers and one with microwaves

[pulsar hemlock]

i have a 3050 and that runs it perfectly

[next nymph]

why would i want standard though, isn't more fps noticeable esp until like 100 or 120 or something

[crude jasper]

they can still program games, it would just be smaller programs

[pulsar hemlock]

i teach unreal and it runs fine

[crude jasper]

coding is more cpu based

[pulsar hemlock]

but these mfs be joining with celeron integrated graphics

like spend the money on a better PC for your child instead of paying that much to get them to learn how to make games

[dreamy rose]

yes but the Visual quality is worth it if is still playable

[pulsar hemlock]

cause its impossible to help them when they're waiting 2 minutes for a menu to appear

it drives me insane

[next nymph]

ok ic xd guess I'll have to try it at some point

[slim barn]

Sounds like they need a whole new system. £400 isn't going to get them much in that regards.

[crude jasper]

its not very hard to have a decent computer for these things

[next nymph]

rt sounds pretty interesting but I've seen ltt videos people failing to even distinguish it more often than not

[crude jasper]

like $200/160 pound to make a decent used rig

7700k, rx580 or higher

[next nymph]

so like i do feel like i like my fpsses xd

[dreamy rose]

is not hard to buy a decent laptop yet people buy shit ones for whatever reason

[pulsar hemlock]

i know and like they all join on laptops or macs and i especially hate macs because they dont have right click support in the editor so you cant pan around in 3d view

[tidal minnow]

6600xt 10400f build?

[crude jasper]

laptops it is far harder to differentiate shit, you actually have to put in some research to make a pc work

[slim barn]

That a full build? or just GPU & CPU?

[tidal minnow]

Full build. Probably a base 6600 tho.

Definitely have to be used.

[slim barn]

Really puts it into perspective when I can spend that much on a single component. 😄

[dreamy rose]

basically the guide to not buying a shit laptop is
A: does it have a Celeron/Pentium
B: is the build quality good
C: how long does it's battery last you

[crude jasper]

whast

[next nymph]

well if you don't know shit (xd) abt desktops you can end up with 3070 xd

[tidal minnow]

Used rx 6600 for £170 /: I found a 10400f for £50
That's £220 for cpu gpu combo.

£180 on everything else? I mean again. Used case would have to be a thing and a used mobo

What mobo is recommend for a 10th gen intel?

[slim barn]

At worse could re use existing case. But yeah, mobo, ram and possibly psu.

[tidal minnow]

What mobo is recommended for 10th gen intel?

[slim barn]

Dunno. AMD guy here. lol

[tidal minnow]

Same -_-

[slim yacht]

any b series would do

[slim barn]

Nothing against Intel. Just always stuck with AMD for desktop.

[slim yacht]

id recommend b560m mortar. good reps, pretty useful

[tidal minnow]

Okay. B550

[dreamy rose]

they are a better deal anyway. no need to spend on a board every upgrade

[slim barn]

Next AMD will need a new board. At top end of AM4 with a 5900X.

[tidal minnow]

Used b560 with wifi for £40?

[dreamy rose]

yeah, well AM4 has got 1000-5000 so its had a good lifespan.

as far as new products go its dead but its way too relevant to be considered dead dead

[slim barn]

Oh I know. No need to be upgrading anytime soon.

[tidal minnow]

Cpu: 10400f (£50)
Gpu: 6600 (£170)
Mobo: b560m with wifi (£40)
Case:
Psu:
Ssd:
Ram:
Money left: £140

[crude jasper]

anything that can support it

[tidal minnow]

Hmmm if I were someone shopping for a £400 would 16gb ram be more important or 1tb of storage?

Maybe I can get both?

[crude jasper]

you can definitely get both

[slim barn]

Depends on use case.

[tidal minnow]

Good cheap 16gb ram? Country is U.K

[crude jasper]

whats used 1080, 1080ti and 5700xt pricing?

[tidal minnow]

GOOD POINT ill check those.

[crude jasper]

$211 is alot compared to a $120-140 alternative

[slim barn]

Both are around £50 so not that much to stretch budget to and get both.

[tidal minnow]

1080 for £150?

[neon mesa]

1080ti is definitely not as cheap as 6600 (both used) but the 1080ti is on par with the 6600XT
well at the cost of eating 120w more power than 6600

[crude jasper]

5700xt is cheaper used tho

[jaunty compass]

5700 XT

[neon mesa]

i'd definitely take a used 6600 over used 5700xt

a lot of used 6600 still has active warranty
will have longer support from AMD
and is more stable than RDNA 1

best part, 100w less power so you probably don't even need a beefy PSU

and used 6600 price is like under $30 of difference to the 5700xt

[crude jasper]

more around 50W

5700XT pulls 180W undervolted correctly

[neon mesa]

the 6600 can be like 100w if undervolted

it's not like the 6600 can't be undervolted

even then at 180w it still needs 8 pin power compared to a 6 pin on a 6600

[crude jasper]

referring to the PSU statement

[neon mesa]

it's not worth saving 30 bucks getting a 5700xt over a used 6600

[dreamy rose]

hmm. if i got an External GPU thing that replaces the Wifi card would the 6600 be a good fit?

[neon mesa]

the mini pcie the wifi card uses is X4

[crude jasper]

6 pin PCIe will pull 220W

[neon mesa]

if the laptop is PCIe 4.0 it will be fine but 3.0 will chug

6-pin PCIe will NOT pull 220w you crazy lmao

[crude jasper]

the only valid argument there is the driver support, and it isn't too relevant

[neon mesa]

even 8-pin is only rated 150w

[crude jasper]

depoends

[dull granite]

yo

major data leak in poland rn

[crude jasper]

some cables just dont put a 3rd 12v line, if they have any reputation they will

[neon mesa]

guy tryna push 225w through a 6 pin

[crude jasper]

yet i can pull 350W out of one

[dreamy rose]

its 2.0. but the thing is it'd better than a GT 540m thats for sure

[jaunty compass]

Ah yeah I love the smell of fire

[neon mesa]

just because YOU can doesn't mean OTHERS should
it's like recommending the gigabyte P750GM because you got lucky

and if a PSU only has 6 pin you probably shouldn't push more than what it is rated for

[crude jasper]

if your psu company has any kind of reputation the actual physics limitations of copper and rubber will allow more than its rated for

[dreamy rose]

it'd be the same as running off of a 1x lane of 4.0

[neon mesa]

oh lemme run 1000w through a 550w PSU just because it's from a reputable company then

[crude jasper]

two entirely different things and a horrible analogy

[neon mesa]

it exactly fits the analogy

[crude jasper]

learn how conduction works and get back to me lol

[neon mesa]

learn how PSU can't bring power out of nowhere

if a PSU only has 6 pin PCIe it probably can't bring 150w through it

you've been making many bad takes and now straight up dangerous ones

[crude jasper]

also, pcie slot provides 75w

not sure how any of this is even relevant to the 5700xt

[neon mesa]

you're the one starting it

[crude jasper]

the only unsafe cables for it at that point would be something like 22awg at 6 pin

[upbeat herald]

is 4070 worth it or should i go for something similar for amd

[neon mesa]

the cable does not matter
the PSU does
doesn't matter if the copper itself on a 6 pin can bring more than the rated 75w
if a PSU only has a 6 pin it's for a reason

[neon mesa]

depends

[dreamy rose]

get a Radeon thats similar

[crude jasper]

total nonsense

[dreamy rose]

for 90% of people theres no reason to go Nvidia

[neon mesa]

that's a rather bold generalization

implying 90% of all GPU buyers only wants to game which is very much untrue

[upbeat herald]

i have a 1660 Super i need to upgrade i think just wondering what i should get.

[dreamy rose]

Some want to stream AND game. and you definitely don't need an Nvidia for that.

[upbeat herald]

i guess technically a 4060 Ti would be an upgrade on my system

[neon mesa]

bad card

[upbeat herald]

i know

[dreamy rose]

please dont buy that. if you wanna buy garbage buy a 7600. it just less garbage at a better price.

[full fossil]

1660s is still decent

[full fossil]

agreed and it has a good and affordable price

@upbeat herald i am bald

u should stick with the 1660 till the 40 series prices drop

[dreamy rose]

dont even bother with the 40 series

[upbeat herald]

honestly though even some indie games i'm having frame drops sometimes but i do enjoy the odd AAA game and my system can't exactly handle it all at the framerate i want. i will be changing my CPU soon too

[full fossil]

yeah... also apperently the new 4060 gpus are gonna be sold at less than 200 euros

[full fossil]

a 4070 on sale would be worth it

that is a joke 100%

what

[dreamy rose]

not in the long run.

[full fossil]

why

yep less than 200 euros (i read it on a few articles but i still think its BS)

if its less than 200 euros it would suck

[upbeat herald]

you might be thinking of 4060 Ti?

[full fossil]

yeah

[full fossil]

whats ur cpu

who is emily and why does everyone keep talking about emily

[upbeat herald]

ryzen 5 3600

[full fossil]

why are u upgrading it

[dreamy rose]

Editor

[full fossil]

3600 is still rly good

same @upbeat herald

[upbeat herald]

eventually not right now. i want to do the GPU first

[full fossil]

new one or something?

is ur windows optimized btw

[upbeat herald]

IDK?

[dreamy rose]

nah that was a joke, its actually Anthony coming out.

[upbeat herald]

i don't know how to do anything with the bios or any of that.

[full fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKogc3ULBjc

[neon mesa]

how many emily we have in LTT?

[dreamy rose]

by optimized they mean removing all the non essential garbage on windows for better performance. or Debloating as its called. you probably haven't

[upbeat herald]

no i havn't

[dreamy rose]

2 afaik.

[full fossil]

7 ig

[full fossil]

go through this

[full fossil]

[dreamy rose]

is there anything wrong with that?

[full fossil]

did i say there was?

[tidal minnow]

Cpu: 10400f (£50)
Gpu: 6600 (£170)
Mobo: b560m with wifi (£40)
Case:
Psu:
Ssd: 1tb kioxia (£40?)
Ram:
Money left: £100

Good cheap 1tb drive is like £43

[full fossil]

whos that for

or u

[tidal minnow]

My friend. Trying to make the best possible build for £400.

[full fossil]

ima be honest u cant get a psu that wont blow up

[tidal minnow]

Well if I find a random case for £10 then that will give me like £90 idh to spend on the rest.

[full fossil]

https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-Turbine-3200MHz-288-pin/dp/B07NKYM62D/ref=sr_1_14?crid=1VD8IHC2YLD1A&keywords=ddr4&qid=1685454992&sprefix=ddr4%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-14
ram

[tidal minnow]

I'm U.K

Sn570 1tb for £40?

[full fossil]

u might just wnna get a hdd ur not gna have enough money

[oak kindle]

get some cheap ok used evga/corsair psu and just some cheap ram, the 10400f will cap it anyways

[full fossil]

used psu i wouldnt reccomend

[oak kindle]

how much is the mp33 or p41 plus?

[tidal minnow]

Ooh msi mag a550bn for £45 on pcpp?

[full fossil]

used gpus are ok tho

[oak kindle]

???

[oak kindle]

yeah thats fine

[tidal minnow]

Mp33 is like £48

[full fossil]

id rather buy used memory bro

[tidal minnow]

£46 for p41

Now I have £55 left for ram and case.

I can just buy a really cheap case.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/sMdcW4

[full fossil]

get a used gpu

save a lot of money

[tidal minnow]

That 6600 IS used

On ebay they're £170 BIN and £200 brand new.

[full fossil]

make a 160 offer

[tidal minnow]

Okay.

What 16gb of ram should I get then?

[full fossil]

cheaptest 3200mhx ram

16gb preferablty but 8 works if ur very strapped

[tidal minnow]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qVXNRv
Only issue is that we need a cpu cooler

And a case with fans...

I'll ask the seller of the 10400f if they can include the stock cooler if he has it.

[dreamy rose]

for once australian prices are somewhat correct

[tidal minnow]

Then I spend my last £20 on a used case with fans on ebay.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155515787450
Will this be enough case cooling?

[timid meadow]

My wife gets spooked by the roar of all my drives spinning up and doing stuff at the same time when something like qdirstat has to scan kek. Glad shes keeping an ear out for weird noises, but amusing nonetheless

[dreamy rose]

doesn't look too bad but that vent could be fake like majority of the ones on prebuilt

i doubt its fake tho.

[tidal minnow]

Oof. Ok. I'm just trying get something nice for like £20-30.

[dreamy rose]

it doesnt look half bad. at least to me.

[fossil frost]

ive bought those cases in the past, for a simple system that doesnt NEED "extra" cooling.. its fine... but, the metal is paper thin, you can dent it by looking at it hard

[tidal minnow]

Ok.

[vapid canyon]

So when I got my gpu it came with a bundled game, Diablo IV, what is Diablo even about?

[tidal minnow]

I just hope I can get the stock cooler for the cpu. When I get it off that guy.

[fossil frost]

ie. as long as you arent putting an i9 or an r9 in it... you should be ok

[tidal minnow]

Hmm I mean. Stock coolers ARE loud. Maybe a cheap £10 cpu cooler would be fine.

[fossil frost]

dont go too cheap on the cooler, i bought a cheapo £9 one from ebay, sounded like a jet engine, but moved less air than an asthmatic hamster blowing through a straw

[dreamy rose]

if you dont like those fantasy top down RPGs then its a skip

[vapid canyon]

So what do I do with it then?

[fossil frost]

ignore it, or offer it to a friend for free... since you got it for free

[dreamy rose]

if you don't want it probably just go hand it out to someone who would like it

[fossil frost]

arctic freezer 7x is £20 and will be better than anything else at that price level.... btw, what cpu are you using?

[tidal minnow]

Bruh
I was literally about to choose that

Lmao
A 10400f

[fossil frost]

yeah, freezer 7 is plenty for that, and quiet... i have it in my sons machine right now 😄

[full fossil]

I use $10 stock cooler on threadripper

[tidal minnow]

A 6600 is probably fine for 1080p gaming. Either way it's mainly for roblox, minecraft and terraria.

A 6600 would even let him play nicely with mods and shaders!

[fossil frost]

6600 or 6600xt? the xt is vastly better than the non-xt

[tidal minnow]

6600 base

[fossil frost]

and my son has a 6600xt in his machine 😄

[tidal minnow]

What games does he play?

[fossil frost]

fifa, fortnite, roblox, minecraft, fall guys

[tidal minnow]

Cool.

[vapid canyon]

Well I didn’t say I don’t like it, I just normally don’t play games like it

[patent stone]

Guys is it possible to view instagram posts without following? Every single website on google for that is a scam...

[fierce moth]

Bruh

It's a private account for a reason

[dreamy rose]

are you admitting to stalking someone?

[patent stone]

Kinda 😂💀

[fierce moth]

Then stop

[dreamy rose]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-gif-23501265

[fierce moth]

We don't condone illegal activities here

[patent stone]

It isnt illegal

[fossil frost]

pay me a grand, and then ill go and get their pictures for you, and then hand them to you... i promise i wont just take your money and laugh at you to teach you a lesson about that

[patent stone]

So nobody can help?

[fossil frost]

people CAN help, but they are unwilling to help you with being an arsehole and stalking somebody

[dreamy rose]

we dont help stalkers no.

[fierce moth]

Anyway stalking is illegal in both my home country of Australia and the United States

[dreamy rose]

its outright illegal everywhere

[patent stone]

Ok then cya guys 👋

[fierce moth]

True

Just easier to say its illegal in the us

As that's where a lot of users are based

[dreamy rose]

i used to think that too, but a lot more people from many other countries are here too

[timid meadow]

There is no kinda. Its either stalking or its not

[broken crown]

Is it possible? Maybe, depends on many factors. How can you do something like this? Get rekt.

[patent stone]

Ok. Then im gonna say yes. I just want to see one specific photo.

[broken crown]

Then follow them or ask them.

Don't be a creep and try to circumvent their privacy choices. Consent exists for a reason.

[patent stone]

Ok but i came here to find the solution without following

[fossil frost]

then thats being a creep at best, and illegal at worst

[broken crown]

What you're asking to do is look at something against their consent. That's at best very unethical and creepy af.

[timid meadow]

TIL Paramotors exist. For around $10k-15k, you can just buy a giant fan you put on your back and fly around

[fossil frost]

yeah, colin furze used 2 of them to build his hover bike 😄

[broken crown]

How he has not lost fingers or limbs astounds me

[timid meadow]

Been obsessed with Tucker Gott since last night

[full fossil]

I wonder if tom scott taught him a thing or two such that the didn't lose fingers or limbs lol
(they used to work together on a TV show)

[broken crown]

Colin Furze is like OSHA's worst nightmare wrapped in a fever dream, and some how he's still got everything attached. HOW!?

[timid meadow]

You can hit 75mph in one of those things. Broooo

[broken crown]

"I'm currently standing in a shack"

[fossil frost]

his very first project got him arrested for firearms offences

[full fossil]

lol

[dreamy rose]

is it considered weird to be doing the exact opposite and obsess over who follows and unfollows you, who likes your posts and that whole thing? i think that's like really weird.

[timid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-turboman-jingle-all-the-way-fly-gif-17307336

[broken crown]

Yeah, that's searching for validation in a void of numbers. Aka. being an Influencer.

[timid meadow]

Thats me in a paramotor kek

Weeeeee

[broken crown]

If you're doing this for business purposes, like LMG does, it makes sense because it's your revenue. But it very easily gets into "does this mean I'm a good person?" "do people like me?" territory.

[dreamy rose]

aren't there tools that do that stuff too?

[broken crown]

Yes but again, it depends on why someone is obsessing over their follower count. If it's your income, then to some degree it's sensical. But if you're a run-of-the-mill influencer, 9 times out of 10 it's why those people feel confident about themselves. It's their whole identity, "I have 10 million followers" is what validates them in life as having some meaning or purpose.

It's not a whole lot different from the feeling cult leaders get, I'm sure.

[dreamy rose]

ok but what if you are small fry in the space

[broken crown]

Then it's even worse, you feel like you're meaningless and have no purpose because your whole sense of validation is small and often very fickle.

I've got a few friends who succumbed to this, it's gnarly.

Tried to turn into a game or DJ streamer, got little support, felt like they were a fraud and terrible at their craft (imposter syndrome) and stopped liking it altogether.

[gentle slate]

Aight I'm getting a black S23+ 512GB. Hope I don't regret.

[crude jasper]

costs under $10,000 if you build one, under 3,000 if you go low end

[timid meadow]

👀

[crude jasper]

and thats only assuming you buy a high end engine, propellor is the 2nd most potentially expensive at $700 for a carbon fiber blade

[timid meadow]

Okay but like. Probably shouldnt go low end. Its a thing holding you in the sky at 30+mph.

[crude jasper]

the parts that would be low end, are still tested to spec

[gentle slate]

Is 512gb overkill for a phone?

[crude jasper]

no

[timid meadow]

Underkill

Gimme 2TB+ phones

[gentle slate]

Iirc newer ones don't have SD card slots.

[dreamy rose]

if you take many pictures no

[gentle slate]

And I easily fill 128GB.

I have over 7k photos on my phone rn

[timid meadow]

Ive only got 128gb on my s21fe and its the worst part of the phone. Ive got a server i can backup to when stuff gets too bad tho

And if i just copy paste the backup, i can vpn in and its all still exactly where it would be on the phone

Like snapshots of the device

[gentle slate]

Phone should arrive Friday. 🙏

[timid meadow]

Enjoy it 🙂

[woven violet]

hello

[gentle slate]

Maybe once I stop being scrooge mcduck, I'll get an iPhone

[heavy dust]

my hair is gonna make me go insane

[dreamy rose]

then get rid of it

[edgy moss]

What do you guys think the most unhated GPU’s are?

[dreamy rose]

GeForce 10 series

[heavy dust]

that’s a terrible idea

[dreamy rose]

no. if you dont have it it cant drive you mad simple

[heavy dust]

having no hair is completely worse

it’s not driving mad it’s just frustrating and i just have to keep it as it is

[dreamy rose]

is this an attack on bald people?

[heavy dust]

i guess so

[still light]

I'm bald...

[heavy dust]

too bad

[broken crown]

That's like a couple months of memes for me

[edgy moss]

Agreed! I’d say the 1080ti in particular

[still light]

Being bald is OP tbh

[heavy dust]

how is it

[edgy moss]

I’d also put in the RX 580 somewhere too

[dreamy rose]

people hate Radeon no matter what,

[still light]

Not me

[dreamy rose]

not everyone but some still have Nvidia bias.

[still light]

Amd is king atm

[edgy moss]

Even the 580?

[still light]

6800 best used card you can get atm

[edgy moss]

Lmao AMD and Nvidia have new cards that perform worse and cost more than the 580 (don’t look this up!!!)

[dreamy rose]

again the massive amount of Nvidia biases stop me seeing a Radeon as a "Most unhated card"

[still light]

Amd rx 6800 is goated atm

[edgy moss]

I’m pretty sure the rx 580 beats the 5500xt and 1630

[dreamy rose]

yes but tell an Nvidia shill

[heavy dust]

that’s true btw

[edgy moss]

Mfw a 6 year old card launched at 200 dollars beats the newest 200 dollar card

I hope that the 5700xt gets put in the same category as the rx 580

[timid meadow]

Any movie buffs in here? Wife and i are looking for terrible weather based horror movies. Weve got Zombie Tidal Wave, Sharnado 1-6, Firenado. Gimme some more

Super specific genre ahahaha

[long briar]

Bro bald buff is a thing tho

[blazing goblet]

I’m techquickie Linus actually pronounced BSOD as bee-sod

[full fossil]

ok?

[crude jasper]

1080 ti, 5700xt*

[mild elm]

the best used card you can get is 4090

[wet orchid]

Guyz i found something amazing . When i look my farm from the satellite i see 100's of black dots 💀

[dreamy rose]

who doesn't?

[wind pulsar]

That's.. entirely correct?

[blazing goblet]

In person I’ve only ever heard people pronounce the whole meaning, not the abbreviation

[wind pulsar]

Uhuh

[long briar]

???

[gilded quest]

Not wrong

So what was with the whole bullshit "the older your account, the sooner you pick your name"

[junior fossil]

is it worth to upgrade from i7 8700k rtx 3070ti to i9 13900k rtx 4080

[crude jasper]

it is rolling out that way, its just super slow and only server admins will get it super early

numerous nitro members have also got it

its just rolling out slowly and randomly in tiers

can't embed here, but #off-topic

[full fossil]

so what happens they send you an email and you change it from there

[wanton jewel]

No it's literally

It's based on account age

Older = you get it sooner

[crude jasper]

if they had direct discord connection it would be shown on their profile
it's entirely random based on tiers
server admins
nitro/old old old
old old
old
new

[wanton jewel]

Ok, that's what discord tells us. I know as much as discord will tell people

[crude jasper]

the nitro subscription is before the period discord stated you get benefits

"Nitro subscribers paying for the ability to customize their discriminator that registered for Nitro on or before March 1, 2023 will also be given early access."

[low rain]

I can change my display name already

I changed it a fat min ago

[full fossil]

so since my account is 2016 and nitro ill get to change it before most users?

[crude jasper]

the old is what will let you change it, not the nitro

because you subscribed after the period. they said it had to be before march 1st

[heavy dust]

opening gta v in front of your parents gotta be terrifying

[faint schooner]

real life gta

lol nvm cant attached photos

[dreamy rose]

Real life GTA mods = Raytraced Puddles

[faint schooner]

lol i was trying to post a pic of the gf new car lol

its right out of gta

[slim barn]

Real life GTA is fun. If you can get away with it.

[full fossil]

google is gonna be deleting any gmail accounts that have been inactive for 24 months

[neon mesa]

people just making their current username the @ username lmao
like @ username0001

[dreamy rose]

these new coolers are interesting i wanna see these paired with the Monster APU

[faint schooner]

Whxixhcones

Lots of cool stuff at computer

[dreamy rose]

latest video.

[young lark]

hey will a B550 AORUS ELITE V2 (rev. 1.0) support a 5700x?

[faint schooner]

spelling is hard haha

[broken crown]

Check their firmware releases

B550 I think probably yes

[still light]

Does it have the right cpu socket

[long briar]

https://youtu.be/i-wpzS9ZsCs

I'm shocked they published it

[dreamy rose]

the products are more important than the cringe moments surrounding them.

[heavy dust]

is it

or are you just delusional

[dreamy rose]

we would steer away from it but corps don't give a shit its even meant for Corps anyway.

[broken crown]

B550 and 5700x are AM4, so yes. It depends on firmware at that point.

[still light]

Bald buff for the ladies is for real

[broken crown]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550-AORUS-ELITE-V2-rev-10-11/support#support-cpu Since firmware version F14, yes

[sonic spruce]

My cousin wants to know what’s a good gpu for a ryzen 3600 and ryzen 3400g?

[broken crown]

@young lark If your firmware is older, you'll likely need to flash using a 3000 series CPU, then it should boot if it's a higher-end 3000 series, switch to the 5700x, reset your BIOS to flush any stored 3000-series settings and start configuring.

[sonic spruce]

I think it’s a rx 580, am I wrong?

Note: $100 usd or less

[long briar]

if you're buying new, yes it will come updated out of the box

[broken crown]

Depends how new. Often times they're older stock that's not been updated.

Some vendors put the firmware version on the box's sticker

I think Gigabyte might be one of those, don't recall

[long briar]

Asrock at least updates b450 for ryzen 5000 out of the box

I'm almost certain gigabyte also updates

[still light]

If you're buying a b550 board from gigabyte atm yes it'll be ready to gon

I was worried too when researching aboutnitncauseni heard about when they first came out they weren't updated.

Can someone tell me why amd is so much better atm than nvidia?

[gilded quest]

Value.

[dreamy rose]

i mean look at em.

[broken crown]

It might be. It really depends how old the stock is.

[stray apex]

because rdna2 didn't sell so well, and they really, really need to get it out the door before they come out with the 7700/7800

it's already fucking over 7600

[solid cedar]

Who tagged me

[dreamy rose]

they have a lot of those to get through.

[robust rose]

can't feel air coming anymore from my laptop and the fan and vents are clean

does that mean that my fan is toast? I checked and it's spinning

[dreamy rose]

in a workload or idle/desktop

[robust rose]

workload

[stray apex]

is it throttling?

[robust rose]

yes, I'm having to disable turbo boost to not exceed 97c

with turbo boost of, it's around 86c max

changed thermal paste several times and it didn't work

I used HWInfo to try to stress the fans to a 100% of their capacity to see if I could feel any air and still no air comes out

I can hear them tho

[dreamy rose]

are you feeling an Intake vent or something?

[robust rose]

nope

[dreamy rose]

try all the different vents you can find on it

[robust rose]

tried already, no air come out or gets sucked in any of them

dunno if it's a voltage/software issue or if the fan is toast

[dreamy rose]

this is just sounding completely illogical to me. maybe its the fact its 4AM but i dont know.

[rose cipher]

couple hours

[mental mortar]

They should do more LTT 3d printing videos

[dreamy rose]

what would they mass print?

[tender geyser]

when is ltx again?

[mental mortar]

Doesn't have to be mass printing stuff

[slim creek]

would apple support the pro iphones for a longer time or no?

[mental mortar]

Like the 3d printed pc case and stuff

[dreamy rose]

no

[slim creek]

like imagine an iphone 11 pro not being supported

[dreamy rose]

in a few years sure the 11s would be out of support

[slim creek]

like 2-3 years

[dreamy rose]

but Pros have no reason to be supported longer than the normal model

[slim creek]

you can still download the newest apps with an unsupported phone right?

[dreamy rose]

the only reason they exist is for the higher price not better product

[dreamy rose]

as long as the App supports it yes.

[slim creek]

alright then its all good

[dreamy rose]

i was stuck on iOS 11 in 2019-2020 and the support was fine.

[slim creek]

my ipod touch still gets security updates

[dull osprey]

My PS5 Disk drive doesn't read games; it's dead I guess 😔

[slim mirage]

consider it a digital version now 🙂

[young lark]

wait so i need a 3000s series to update it incase it does not already come updated?

[broken crown]

Likely yes

Unless it supports CPU-less firmware flashing

Some motherboards do, not many though.

[young lark]

and what happens if i do not have a 3000s cpu? do i need to try and see if the motherboard comes preupdated

[tidal minnow]

What pc specs are the cbox one x's cpu and gpu comparable to?

[broken crown]

Either get a mobo running at least firmware F14, or temporarily buy a 3000 series, use it, then return it.

Some places even lease out CPUs for this purpose.

Like they'll give you a loaner 3000 series for a week. I think Microcenter does this?

[young lark]

yeah but i do not live in the usa

[broken crown]

Well, could always just buy a 3000 series CPU temporarily, if you need to for flashing firmware

Then return it when done. A bit costly but that's most commonly how people handle these kinds of firmware transitions.

[stray apex]

It looks like apple is giving pro models the newest chip and non pro one year behind, so it's possible that pro models will receive an additional year of support

[broken crown]

Just be careful when returning it to specify something like, "CPU not compatible with motherboard firmware," they may not accept a return if you say it was only used for flashing. Some retailers can be shitty like this.

[young lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aBiTr6tpcs Does this work?

[broken crown]

Q-Flash Plus Update BIOS without Installing the CPU, Memory and Graphics Card
Oh damn, yeah it will

Yeah you don't even need anything socketed. Nice, it's one of the few that supports this.

[young lark]

hey lets go!

[broken crown]

So you don't even need to worry about a 3000 series to flash it. Just get your 5700x, 'Q-Flash' it if needed, and you're good to go.

[young lark]

and its only like 140$

[broken crown]

Aorus boards are pretty good. I've got the B550 Aorus Pro V2.

[young lark]

i am getting the Elite v2

[jaunty compass]

They added a drum

[young lark]

so i just look up how to qflash right?

[broken crown]

Yup

[jaunty compass]

Bro
QFlash is a pain in my ass

[broken crown]

It's easy. You just nuke a USB stick, install the .EFI or whatever files, follow the instructions, have patience, and it should just work.

[young lark]

it has the button as well on the motherboard

[tepid jasper]

go get the doctor to check it out then

[long briar]

??? almost every modern board now does

[jaunty compass]

I bought a b365 board off of eBay but it was from a cyber power system so the normal bios wouldn't work

I had to use the dos update tool instead

[broken crown]

Do they now? I've not followed closely for a couple years.

[jaunty compass]

And then I had to mod the bios and flash that

[broken crown]

I thought it was still just the higher end mobos that did. The "Pros" and "Elites" and such.

[long briar]

tech advances really fast yea... just a few years ago flashback was a rare feature. Now it's rather common in even midrange boards

[broken crown]

Ooh, nice nice

[long briar]

I believe some budget boards have it too

[still light]

Just a few years ago gpus had sub 6gb of vram and it was "enough"

[broken crown]

lmao, and Nvidia is still trying to say 8GB ought to be enough for anybody

- Bill Gates

[long briar]

not anybody, otherwise 4090 wouldn't have 24gb. the market they target for 8gb (with exception of 3070) is 1080p gamers which 8gb is enough

[tepid jasper]

now if only motherboards could include the post code lcd screen on normal motherboards instead of the fucking 1 gajillion dollars ones

[jaunty compass]

I play games from a few years ago so my 6600 XT is fine in general at 1440p

[broken crown]

Or just give us a standardized header we can plug something into, like a car's OBD-II.

[jaunty compass]

It was a good purchase

[broken crown]

I'd much rather an I2 bus or something we could plug into and run a diagnostics tool against.

[slim mirage]

what linus sponsors have you used or tried because of the sponsor segment?

[gilded quest]

None

[broken crown]

None that I can think of

[slim mirage]

really?

[broken crown]

LTT Store I guess?

[gilded quest]

Wait, shit, I did a trial of a VPN maybe. But I didn't end up paying so does that count?

[elfin solar]

None. I just don’t do adverts lol
Someone’s advert interrupting what I am watching is less likely to get my money.

[gilded quest]

I don't buy things from advertisements

[broken crown]

I almost always skip past them or end the video early before the last. I used to stick around for the credits to see if one of the editors I know did that video, but lately meh.

[gilded quest]

I also use floatplane soooo

But even on other channels, I mentally tune out during ads/sponsors

[neon mesa]

linus' recent video's sponsor
i used it, but not because of linus

[slim mirage]

theres a way i would never use but ive bought a few things after seeing them on LTT like PIA and possibly the z fold 3 but cant remember if samsung were involved in the sponsor

[neon mesa]

particularly xsplit vcam during the pandemic era

online meeting and stuf

but the rest either i don't need it or out of my price range

[slim mirage]

oh i see how that could be handy i just use nvidia broadcast for that

[neon mesa]

back then i don't have my 3060 to use it lel

[gilded quest]

I've bought many products that I've learned about from LTT videos

But not from sponsor segments

[dreamy rose]

yes cause Namco

[slim mirage]

i did like the ridge wallet sponsors but i cant justify that much on a piece of metal same with dbrand nice skins and such but just cant pay $26 for a piece of vinyl i would probably get the case if they made one for my phone but they havent

[gilded quest]

Yeah I don't care for skins anymore

[still light]

I've never used a "skin"

[gilded quest]

I'd consider a dbrand grip tho
Also project Killswitch

[neon mesa]

nord

[stray apex]

Glass backs are so shit though

[gilded quest]

But, tbh, I've never had an issue with cheap Spigen cases

[slim mirage]

i dont take my steam deck anywhere that i would need a solid rubber case on it

[gilded quest]

Nord the VPN
Nord the OnePlus phone
Nord as in the Nordic region

Which one

[neon mesa]

i think it's obvious

[slim mirage]

i take it oneplus are still down hill for decent phones right now?

[dreamy rose]

Skins are stupid

[gilded quest]

OnePlus Nord Buds

[neon mesa]

though nord sucked compared to alternatives

mullvad is only $5 a month
proton is also $5 a month
and i'd trust these two way more than nord

though i use windscribe because $3 a month, only paying for the two servers i need

[stray apex]

Doesn't mullvad not have auto renew now

[slim mirage]

i just use PIA because it was the cheapest i only really use my vpn for torrenting ubuntu and debian ISO's so its not that big of a deal to me

[dreamy rose]

why use a VPN for that? torrenting isn't illegal piracy is

[stray apex]

Do you know what an ISP id

[dreamy rose]

and no you cant pirate linux.

[rancid bloom]

Guess who ordered themself a new laptop!!!

[gilded quest]

You did

[dreamy rose]

Specs?

[gilded quest]

What do I win

[long briar]

Eh they're like every other company now

[rancid bloom]

A hug :)

[gilded quest]

How do I file for a restraining order

[dreamy rose]

good question best of luck

[rancid bloom]

8GB RAM
Ryzen 7 4800H
Full HD 15.6 inch display
Fingerprint sensor
Windows 11 Pro

Although i'll be swapping Windows 11 for Rhino Linux pretty much immediately

[still light]

Why

[rancid bloom]

Why what? Swap to linux?

[gilded quest]

How much

[dreamy rose]

turning Ubuntu into arch are we?

[rancid bloom]

£550

[rancid bloom]

Pretty much 🤣

[rancid bloom]

1. It's my own operating system that I created, it'd be stupid not to use it
2. I've been a long-time linux user and just prefer it

[young lark]

just confirmed with the seller, most of their motherboards come preupdated for the 5000s series @broken crown

[dreamy rose]

we should come together and storm the MS headquarters again for refunds

[rancid bloom]

Half tempted to ask for a refund of the windows license ngl

[young lark]

mullvad is very privacy focused more than proton i would say since it does need any identifying information to sign up for it

[rancid bloom]

Legally they have to now irrc due to the lawsuits

[dreamy rose]

if you can please do. i wanna know if i can take back 200+ dollars for extra storage.

[long briar]

it's literally your fault you paid for it

[rancid bloom]

You can't, thought they did

[young lark]

i do not think this build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b2Vyv3 will have any incompatibilities since pcpartpicker does not mention any

[rancid bloom]

I wanted the laptop not the OS that came preinstalled on it

[long briar]

you'll save... 5 bucks at most

[rancid bloom]

I can install my own OS thank you 🤣

[long briar]

oem licensing is really weird, if you have market of scale on your side, windows follows

[long briar]

you can, you can also just replace the os that came with your laptop

howso?

[dreamy rose]

if you buy directly from the manufacturer could you technically ask for added storage if you wanted instead of the license for a shit OS?

[long briar]

not for oems

[rancid bloom]

What OS do you run @dreamy rose

[long briar]

OEM's pay dollars if not cents per key because all microsoft wants is market share

[slim mirage]

Ok let's just say I was being sarcastic about the Ubuntu and Debian installer isos what would that mean?

[rancid bloom]

OEM's wouldn't have to pay if they shipped Ubuntu by default 💀

[dull osprey]

😭

[long briar]

they also wouldn't sell as well

[dreamy rose]

i'm on a 11 year old laptop with a Fermi GPU, while my whole games library runs on Linux i'm stuck on Windows 10 cause of fermi.

[long briar]

you're thinking from the perspective of someone who is fine with tinkering

[broken crown]

Very nice. Then you probably won't need a firmware update at all. Happy building!

[dreamy rose]

still got linux on that dualboot though

[slim mirage]

Driver issue

[rancid bloom]

I'd argue the reason Linux is less popular is because people dont care about their OS. As long as it accesses a browser it's fine

[long briar]

Most people want something that you buy and just works.

[dreamy rose]

card issue not driver.

[long briar]

ChromeOS does this.

[rancid bloom]

Tbh Linux just works, it's just very picky about hardware 🤣

[young lark]

thanks dude, hope this goes well (i will drop the ram to get that linu's luck)

[rancid bloom]

ChromeOS is Linux, a very bastardised version of it, but still Linux. It's based on Gentoo.

[slim mirage]

Skill issue then idk tell the card to run Linux have you tried that

[long briar]

That's why I mentioned it. It works and that's all it needs to do

But Chromebooks do not sell well in higher end models

[bitter lodge]

Hey

[dreamy rose]

Linus himself said that ChromeOS is the key to that year of the linux desktop like 10 years ago

[long briar]

Because you don't end up saving any money to go ChromeOS over windows

[slim mirage]

Why aren't Chromebooks arm wouldn't they run playstore games better that way?

[long briar]

you're not an oem. you're the end user

[dreamy rose]

Fermi does not support any form of Vulkan.

[rancid bloom]

Probably because ChromeOS is a terrible OS anyway. It's way too locked down and restrictive.

[long briar]

Had you read the context for that message you wouldn't jump to that conclusion

[slim mirage]

Just like idk shout at it I guess

[dreamy rose]

i need to replace it thats what,

[rancid bloom]

I need a hand with my coursework rn, is it Windows Defender or Microsoft Defender?

[slim mirage]

Swear it depends on the version of Windows

[rancid bloom]

It does, i mean currently on Windows 11

[dreamy rose]

i just don't have the money to hack together an external GPU solution.

[rancid bloom]

ty

[long briar]

it costs like a dollar fifty for an oem to include windows, OEMs can choose to add whatever cost they want on top of that... and the entire laptop

[dreamy rose]

what, 10 has it called Microsoft defender?

[slim mirage]

Google calls it Microsoft defender antivirus so who knows lol

[long briar]

it was renamed to just "windows security" in 22h2 iirc, but people call it Microsoft defender

[rancid bloom]

Alr then microsoft defender it is

Writing a policy document for my tech support unit rn

[dreamy rose]

Ah. 22H2. yeah not on that one.

[rancid bloom]

Alright, ty

[still light]

The ladder

[dreamy rose]

it should only be called Microsoft Defender if its going to be on all Microsoft hardware.

[rancid bloom]

The ladder

[long briar]

it's been discussed a lot in this server, but the entire argument just doesn't make sense as laptops aren't built as you order, you choose your spec and the oem's warehouse ships out the correct config. Issue is that shipping without windows is such a niche market that the logistics for warehousing and such overwhelm the cost savings.

[dreamy rose]

i really dont care if its negligible for them i dont wanna pay for shit i dont use

[crude jasper]

i mean... it's a very short process when they install OS

[long briar]

It's not the installation, it's the cost of storage for something that would sell very little of

[dreamy rose]

or i just wanna get that money back.

[long briar]

go build your own laptop then

businesses aren't out to make your life better, they're all out to make money

[still light]

Msi raider 11800h with a 3060 call it a day it's like 1400 bucks

[long briar]

AMD advantage is you lose nvidia efficiency and hardware accel for a fancy red sticker

[slim mirage]

you obviously havent heard of nvidia then

[long briar]

????

[dreamy rose]

not good enough that its only them offering decent options.

[still light]

Never heard a truer statement

[long briar]

making money is the only way to put food on the table and survive.