public-chat

[pliant sphinx]

I hope they scale the efficiency with it.

[slim yacht]

remind me why do we need more than 8 cores again? for gaming that is

[tired glade]

Are you about zen efficiency, come on, give intel a chance

[tender geyser]

for..for….for productivity!!

[dreamy rose]

when AMD makes 32 full cores on a Desktop chip we will have Ascended. but no point now. in a few generations time

[neon mesa]

holy shit the 16 core desktop era is about to last longer than intel's 4 core era

[vapid smelt]

I've never maxed out my r5 5600x while gaming

[neon mesa]

the intel 14nm+++ era was like from skylake to coffee lake refresh which is 4 years

[dreamy rose]

Intel has an 8+16 era its not the same

[tired glade]

AMD calling x900 CPU best for gaming, not x950

[neon mesa]

e cores doesn't matter when it performs good in multi core anyway

[pliant sphinx]

I want it for Video Editing. The 8 core would be nice, if 12, even nicer.

[slim yacht]

huh then specifically for you, it would be useful

[neon mesa]

in reality the X800 is best for gaming without any dual CCD issue

[slim creek]

get an i7 or ryzen 7

[tired glade]

X800 most of time best x3d version

[slim yacht]

then my friend, intel is for you

[pliant sphinx]

Also, I'll be buying 64 gigs of RAM and more storage. Some 8TB HDD it will be.

[tired glade]

Don't forget, there are rumours that 14 gen will drop 2 p-cores

[neon mesa]

honestly i don't mind if performance holds

the 13900k despite only having 8 "actual" cores still top the charts along with X3D chips

[pliant sphinx]

I still can't believe how storage demanding 4K is on storage. Crazy.

[slim yacht]

they couldve just made like 6-8-16 cores line and then make them super efficient. but here we are with this big little super huge 420w thing

[neon mesa]

4k on its own isn't demanding on storage
depends on games texture sizes

[tired glade]

While consuming x4 power

[neon mesa]

i believe intel's efficiency problem is attributed to their inferior fab compared to TSMC than their big.LITTLE configuration

[tired glade]

There is breaking point for consumer power draw, after all

[pliant sphinx]

Aren't X3D chips worse for productivity? Now, I'm asking, if that changed with the 7800X3D.

[neon mesa]

like how nvidia 4000 series is sooo efficient thanks to TSMC 4N node

[tired glade]

They red lining their CPU

[tired glade]

Depends which application

[slim yacht]

its a task specific chip. they advertise it to do gaming specifically

[pliant sphinx]

After Effects, Premiere

[tired glade]

M2 still will be faster

[pliant sphinx]

Well, I am also using my PC as a gaming machine so for me the M2 is still a no-go.

Although it's impressive.

[tired glade]

Mac mini exist

[slim yacht]

you can edit through m2 laptop and then play games on pc

[dreamy rose]

huh. MSI likes fluffy dragons. cool

[past egret]

holy shit adobe indesign fucking sucks

[pliant sphinx]

Thinking on using DaVinci Resolve

[past egret]

MSI twitter manager* likes fluffy dragons

[dreamy rose]

why are you suprised its Adobe?

[graceful burrow]

Holy shit adobe fucking sucks*

[past egret]

indesign sucks more than other things

[slim creek]

(friendly fire will not be tolerated)

[pliant sphinx]

Ecosystem 😭

[subtle lagoon]

7900XTX pain is real, still waiting for Torch to update to ROCm 5.5 so I can run funny text models with high VRAM requirements

[dreamy rose]

i mean its W marketing.

[past egret]

i liked it when it was more subtle

[neon mesa]

this is why i'm on nvidia

[past egret]

their twitter is now more dragons than actually products

[dreamy rose]

i see more products than i do Dragons.

[subtle lagoon]

I mean it didn't cost an arm and a leg

[past egret]

people go there for dragons not really the products afterall

[neon mesa]

the 4080 is like $100 more in PCPP soo

and they destroy in stable diffusion as well

[dreamy rose]

that's why its Genius.

[neon mesa]

though local LLMs are still shit

i usually just use OpenAI API and a local client

still some restrictions, but a lotttt more lenient

[subtle lagoon]

with 8gb less vram though!

[neon mesa]

still faster thanks to CUDA

[pliant sphinx]

I'm thinking on moving to AMD
The Nvidia tax

[neon mesa]

now TPU doesn't really do any other AI benchmark right now but this gives a good picture

[dreamy rose]

its a good deal moving to Radeon.

[neon mesa]

and if your specific load can make use of Tensor it becomes even better

stable diffusion in particular
the A1111 UI recently added TensorRT support through extensions

[pliant sphinx]

Like, seeing Nvidia's AI money

Gaming is just second class now

[neon mesa]

@pliant sphinx there's a good reason nvidia AI money is so big
the 3060 beats the entire RDNA 2 lineup in AI

[dreamy rose]

absolutely, gamers were always treated as second class

[neon mesa]

including the 6950XT

[pliant sphinx]

Cool, but like, I don't use AI

[neon mesa]

i just said the reason why nvidia AI money flows hard

jensen bet big on CUDA Compute early when nobody wants it and won big

[pliant sphinx]

There's competition coming for them

I think this whole AI thing is just a bubble like crypto was. It will slow down eventually but by then gamers will be mad.

[neon mesa]

AI is way different from crypto

crypto is on the economic sector with people only on it for getting rich quick schemes

AI is a technology

[pliant sphinx]

They earn money because the competition is lacking their capabilities

[neon mesa]

you can't blame them for winning because the opposition is sleeping

[regal bough]

I should get a 4090x with a 7800x3d

[neon mesa]

do you need 4090 kind of performance

[pliant sphinx]

But, Microsoft, Google and Qualcomm also are developing their own

[neon mesa]

microsoft google and qualcomm are making the software for the most part

[regal bough]

I have two 1080p 60z monitors

[neon mesa]

they're all still using nvidia's GPUs in the end

[pliant sphinx]

Also, I heard there is stuff coming from Intel and AMD

[neon mesa]

you'd need a monitor upgrade, like, 4k120hz kind of monitors if you want 4090 to be useful

[regal bough]

I plan on it

[neon mesa]

i will change my mind when i see them
for now they're promises

[regal bough]

QLED ultra wide

[dreamy rose]

Computex is real soon. if anythings coming along its gonna be announced then.

[neon mesa]

right now radeons are excellent for gaming
but saying they're good for AI is laughable

[pliant sphinx]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/intel-gives-details-future-ai-chips-it-shifts-strategy-2023-05-22/

https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/18/23687912/microsoft-athena-ai-chips-nvidia

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-04/microsoft-is-helping-finance-amd-s-expansion-into-ai-chips

[neon mesa]

the 4070ti which costs like $700 beats the near $1k XTX in AI
and that's not even where the big scheme is going, AMD still has no answer to nvidia A100 80GB

[dreamy rose]

good cards but when it comes to Competition Specific workloads its gonna suck.

[neon mesa]

and that's on ampere architecture

nvidia is about to release the h100 based on hopper architecture which would be better than A100 80GB
and for reference the A100 80GB is quite a bit faster than 4090 in AI

like AMD right now has no chance in the AI sector

[pliant sphinx]

Everyone has a chance

As you said, it's a technology. Nobody knows what they're preparing, and, Nvidia definitely won't be alone in the market for long.

[neon mesa]

i said right now

it fucking dwarfed the 4090

and it's a fricking 4090

here's another compared to the A100 which is slower than H100 above

AMD on AI space right now is like intel on the server CPU space fighting AMD EPYC

like they literally got no answer

[sterile jay]

is everything on floatplane paid?

[pliant sphinx]

In the tech world, the only thing that matters is "How long you can stay at the top"

[neon mesa]

nvidia been on top since.. forever

the last time AMD has a top card faster than nvidia was HD5970 and that's 2009

[pliant sphinx]

They coud literally make a 4090 rival. But, they said it would basically be a waste of money for them.

[regal bough]

Nvidia also has bad reputation and scandals on their side

[neon mesa]

look at this point it's copium
AMD has their strength in gaming, that's about it right now

[sterile jay]

?

[regal bough]

Ie consumers more likely to keep upgrading at a consistent rate

[neon mesa]

we're talking about AI space

[regal bough]

Oh

I think I need to replace all my razer stuff

[sterile jay]

is everything on floatplane paid?

[pliant sphinx]

https://wccftech.com/amd-says-it-is-possible-to-develop-an-nvidia-rtx-4090-competitor-with-rdna-3-gpus-but-they-decided-not-to-due-to-increased-cost-power/amp/

This is why no 7950 XT (as of now)

[neon mesa]

that says AMD can't make it because it would eat so much power and cost a lot for gamers
not that AMD would go broke

that would mean they CAN'T make a 4090 competitor at the same price and power

[pliant sphinx]

Well yes, if nobody buys it, it is a waste of money for them.

[regal bough]

Simple just get a 1500 watt psu

[neon mesa]

any company can make any prototype card that's faster than every card on the planet

[regal bough]

If those even exist

[neon mesa]

but if power and cost is too high then they simply can't make it a product

[pliant sphinx]

They could. They just don't want to follow Nvidia's footsteps

[neon mesa]

my ass, they simply can't make a 4090 competitor that won't eat 700w and cost $2500

[pliant sphinx]

Mid-range and budget makes the most money and they know it. So they go for that.

[regal bough]

How much better is the 4090x to the 7900xtx anyways

[dreamy rose]

they said 1600 but OK

[pliant sphinx]

Like 20-30%

[dreamy rose]

there is no 4090x.

[neon mesa]

if AMD can make a competitive 4090 equivalent they would release it already

they know their 4090 equivalent is simply trash compared to the 4090

[pliant sphinx]

They want to take midrange and budget, see the 7600

[dreamy rose]

and iGPUs

[neon mesa]

let's keep switching goal post

ohh AMD want this want that

[regal bough]

I think im gunna buy the 7900 xtx

[fallen cedar]

they barely care about consumer gpu's at all, servers is where the big bucks are. Why develope a 4090 competitor so the 37 people world wide can buy one?

[dreamy rose]

do. much better value

[regal bough]

I want am5

I found a nice micro atx board

[stray apex]

they could not
they could at best compete in raw raster... at 250w more

[dreamy rose]

they can. its called RDNA 4

[slim creek]

I like how iphones don't really have much of a difference in chips so you can mostly choose from the look of the phone

[regal bough]

Realistically speaking they probably can

[stray apex]

and that's probably going to lose to 5090 so

[neon mesa]

there's a difference between not wanting to release a product because "oh we just don't need to" and because "it would be total embarassment" and considering the XTX already eats 350w they simply can't make a 4090 competitor

[regal bough]

It’s just not the best financial decision

[stray apex]

no, they cannot release a viable competitor to the 4090

[regal bough]

Maybe not on the spot

[stray apex]

we've seen what it looks like
it looks like a 7900xtx that draws 700w of power

how in the fuck are you even going to get AIBs to build something that will cool that

[neon mesa]

stick to arguing what AMD is actually good at which is rasterized price per performance then i can easily agree
but saying nonsense like AMD can make a 4090 rival but "they just don't want to" is pure copium

[regal bough]

Nah it’s not

[stray apex]

are you seriously going to tell people "hey, we have a 4-slot 400mm long gpu that needs a discrete psu and costs as much as a 4090 and it's almost as good"

[regal bough]

It’s literally just where there market is

Amd makes more money offering lower spec

[stray apex]

no they don't lol

[neon mesa]

then explain why ryzen 3 desktops are gone from retail

[regal bough]

That doesn’t mean they can’t have high end too 7900

[stray apex]

amd makes money selling apus to xbox and playstation

[neon mesa]

AMD is about as shit as nvidia in term of morals

[stray apex]

that's where the bulk of their gaming revenue is

[neon mesa]

they don't care about budget
they fight for budget because that their only option right now

[regal bough]

How good is the series x gpu

[dreamy rose]

okay so the 7900XTX has 6144 cores or 96 CUs, if they matched the 16k cores Nvidia has in the 4090 they would vastly outperform the thing.

[timid meadow]

Amd does APUs best. G series is pog, their console chips are clearly pog enough

[stray apex]

ah yes
they're just going to double the size of their die

[neon mesa]

comparing core count across architecture is never correct...

[dreamy rose]

never said it was practical i just put the scenario out there.

[neon mesa]

a 16000 cores RDNA 3 die would be so big TSMC would straight up refuse because of how gargantuanly shit the yield would be

[stray apex]

yes, amd can obviously in theory build a gpu that competes with nvidia
it would be grossly overpriced, devour energy and be absolutely huge

compared to a 4090
which is already all of those things

[neon mesa]

at that point it's not competing, it's just matching performance

[stray apex]

it's not really competing because it would be an inferior product lol

[neon mesa]

it's like strapping a jet engine to a civic trying to beat a gutted tesla plaid in a drag race

[dreamy rose]

i'd be interested in seeing a 256CU monster

[regal bough]

I still think amd gunna top out in the end

[stray apex]

on what basis

[neon mesa]

people been saying that about AMD since 2010

[regal bough]

Most powerful gpu

[stray apex]

AMD has failed to properly compete with nvidia for like
how many generations now

[dreamy rose]

if Nvidia gets lazy with the 5090 sure

[stray apex]

when was the last time AMD seriously gave nvidia a run for their money

[neon mesa]

their last GPU that beats nvidia was HD5970 all the way in 2009

[stray apex]

why would nvidia get lazy
they're hardly going to pause gpu development

[slim barn]

People also said AMD could never compete with Intel.....

[stray apex]

for all the bullshit nvidia pulls, they haven't exactly been sitting on their laurels

[neon mesa]

nvidia is not intel
nvidia continously develop their shit like mad scientist even with no competition

[dreamy rose]

doing the same shit they are doing with the rest of the cards they make this generation.

[regal bough]

amd and their CPU’s tho

[neon mesa]

one thing nvidia doesn't get lazy on is their halo card

[stray apex]

if intel had managed to stay on track with their foundries, they would still be well ahead of AMD

[neon mesa]

the 4060ti can be absolute garbage but nvidia is never giving up the top spot

[stray apex]

AMD got lucky that intel's fab capabilities stalled for years

[dreamy rose]

thats what i'm talking about, AMD would RUIN them if they pulled that shit

[stray apex]

it doesn't matter, because the 4060 will dominate this gen

[neon mesa]

eh we will see

the 4060 can be yet another absolute garbage like 4060ti

[dreamy rose]

on what basis? the 7600 already more popular.

[stray apex]

the 4060 isn't even released yet

[regal bough]

What if instead of amd pumping and dumping for new gpus every one or two years, maybe they’re playing a. Long game

[stray apex]

it literally does not matter
as long as it's better than a 3060, people are going to buy it

[neon mesa]

AMD lost the chance to play the long game

[regal bough]

Did they tho

[neon mesa]

Nvidia started betting on the long game 10 years ago

[slim yacht]

they still have to release somehow. long game wont work

[neon mesa]

nvidia right now IS their long game finally paying up

[regal bough]

It’s probably rnd

[dreamy rose]

a buildup to that "Ryzen moment" for radeon?

[stray apex]

they failed

[neon mesa]

they literally developed CUDA without anyone asking

[regal bough]

Maybe

[stray apex]

rnda1 was supposed to be the ryzen moment
then rdna2
then rdna2

[dreamy rose]

they havent actually gotten to that yet.

[stray apex]

any momentum is gone

[neon mesa]

they've been trying a ryzen moment since GCN lmao

the R9 Fury X was supposed to be a pascal killer but then nvidia released 1080ti

[stray apex]

yeah, vega was supposed to match the 1080ti or something

[regal bough]

I mean let’s take a moment

[neon mesa]

Vega 64 attempts to fight back but failed

[regal bough]

Amd stock has been shit for a while and it’s on track to increase like 110-130% I think we’re going to see some promising things coming soon

[dreamy rose]

i wonder how much better it would be if RDNA 4 was priced properly.

[neon mesa]

Radeon VII is a colossal failure
RDNA 1 was riddled with driver issues for years before only being stable in the last 3 years

[pliant sphinx]

Do you mind me saying that the pre-RDNA GPUs were also bad because there wasn't any Ryzen and Server money

[stray apex]

their stock price has nothing to do with their gpus

AMD's stock is doing well because ryzen is killing it in datacenters

[neon mesa]

pre-RDNA GPUs are actually more competitive

[pliant sphinx]

What?

[neon mesa]

look at polaris, RX 580 is still AMD's top used card

[stray apex]

the rx580 is literally the best gpu amd has released in like
I dunno, a decade?

[dreamy rose]

Nvidia off making a 2000+ dollar GPU while the 8900XT at like 850 or something

[regal bough]

Still think Amd has something they’re not telling ppl about yet

[manic torrent]

is it a rabbit?

[neon mesa]

there is no magic hidden wunderwaffe
technology is something you develop

[dreamy rose]

course not, there's RDNA 5

[neon mesa]

AMD been behind nvidia for over a decade

[pliant sphinx]

Still, RDNA as a whole brought so much features, RDNA 2 has now very good driver support (yes, RDNA 1 was pain at launch). It fixed most of AMD's issues and made it competitive.

[stray apex]

no, we'd have seen a smug marketing post about it right before they released it while slashing the price at the last moment because it turned out to be way weaker than they thought

for example, if AMD roasts the 4090 for consuming too much power and costing too much, you can bet they're about to drop a 4090 competitor that draws more power and costs the same

[dreamy rose]

Silicon Wafers are the Wonder Waffles.

[neon mesa]

you can support AMD and still not be delusional you know that right

[regal bough]

Give it three years

[stray apex]

It's not like I don't want amd to do well

[regal bough]

It sure feels that way

[stray apex]

I just have absolutely no faith in radeon now

[neon mesa]

i even gave AMD a try BEFORE nvidia

[pliant sphinx]

If Radeon wasn't a thing you would be buying GeForce for more

[manic torrent]

I have no faith in anything

[regal bough]

Lol

[stray apex]

of the 5 gpus I've owned, 3 were amd

[neon mesa]

we don't hate radeon
we're just absolutely disappointed how they never got a ryzen moment for over a decade

[dreamy rose]

thats what a loser says,

[neon mesa]

intel however is promising, they did so much in just under a year

[pliant sphinx]

"I had issues with AMD back in 2016..."

[regal bough]

I still think we’re gunna get a Radeon moment

[stray apex]

who said anything about issues?

[neon mesa]

actually it's as early as last year lmao

[stray apex]

even if the raw gpu is fine
that doesn't matter if it's positioned poorly

[dreamy rose]

Any Nvidia fanboy

[neon mesa]

and no i switched to nvidia not because of driver problems

[tidal minnow]

Amds rdna 2 and rdna are kinda good now due to more recent driver updates and the latest software is actually avaliable to older generation gpus rather than being used as a tool to make your new one's more expensive and seem better cough cough nvidia cough cough

[stray apex]

rdna2 is good now because AMD is shoveling them out the door at bargain basement prices

[neon mesa]

and really i never deny that RDNA 2 cards are better for gaming right now than Ampere

[pliant sphinx]

No, that's what 90% of people to me are saying and this is their justification to buy Nvidia. I know, LOL moment.

[stray apex]

msrp rdna2 was ass

literally just upselling people to nvidia

[pliant sphinx]

Yep. But, MSRP wasn't important at the time

[neon mesa]

RDNA 2 right now is a good gaming option and i often recommend them to people

[tidal minnow]

So was the 30xx series???

[stray apex]

uh, no, msrp 30 series would have been great if it existed

[tidal minnow]

Anything in the 30xx and 6000 gen were screwed over by gpu crisis.

[neon mesa]

i love how AMD fanboys automatically assume any criticism as being an Nvidia fanboy when you hate both

i mentioned how nvidia is morally bankrupt and the 4060ti was total garbage just 10 mins ago

[dreamy rose]

"i'll never buy Radeon again" is such a stupid mindset to be in fr

[tidal minnow]

So is
"I'll never buy nvidia again"

[pliant sphinx]

Ofc. Only thing it does it hurts the market.

[dreamy rose]

is it though?

[pliant sphinx]

And same for Radeon fanboys

[neon mesa]

amd and nvidia fanboys have brain deficiency

[tidal minnow]

Being objective although hard is the best thing as consumers we can do in this day and age.

Both companies suck ass and we just need to get the lesser one in the end of the day may that be nvidia, amd or even intel ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[neon mesa]

i bought the 6600xt before switching to 3060 12GB, mainly because of CUDA, though the 6600xt was fine af other than the lack of CUDA

[dreamy rose]

wouldnt need to have moved if developers were fair in the first place.

[neon mesa]

there are nvidia fanboys justifying themselves getting milked and AMD fanboys making every fuck up AMD makes as if they're 4D chess moves

[stray apex]

developers are fair
amd made bad gpus so nobody bought them so nobody developed for them

[dreamy rose]

absolutely not. fair would be testing and optimizing for each.

[tidal minnow]

Or nvidias software and hardware were easier to optimise for? We can't really say tbh.

[stray apex]

no lmao

that's not how development works

[neon mesa]

not that AMD made bad GPU
its a simple, no bet no gain
nvidia betted on new technology first everytime and of course they win

[pliant sphinx]

The problem with Nvidia is that RTX and DLSS got them to the top. They walked over AMD with the 20 Series.

But, in the 30 Series, the marketing gone high man. People completely refused to buy AMD.

And now, Nvidia is trying to push DLSS3 to the same relevancy as raster. You can clearly see how things gone downhills, FAST. This is what a near-monopoly does, compared with a large marketing department.

[dreamy rose]

considering the lead Nvidia has had for too long i wouldn't doubt it

[stray apex]

I mean, nvidia's prescient investments into AI certainly help, but AMD used to have like 30% market share

AMD gpus were genuinely just inferior for years

[neon mesa]

AMD fanboys mocking nvidia DLSS as fake frames then suddenly completely embracing it when FSR is out

[stray apex]

DLSS3 = fake frames
FSR3 = just as good as dlss3, guys!

[pliant sphinx]

Did I say that? Lmao

[tidal minnow]

Yeah I don't doubt it either. At this point I canon's really spitball 😭 shame how both companies don't understand how to make a proper budget gpu on their latest gen.

[neon mesa]

you word DLSS as if they're some sort of cheat

DLSS is perfectly valid

[dreamy rose]

FSR3 could be better even

[stray apex]

assuming the 4060 rumors are true, it'll be... the least shit current gen card lol

[pliant sphinx]

DLSS3 is a good feature, but it shouldn't be a main selling point.

[regal bough]

I mean we have fsr

[dreamy rose]

AMD just gets the point more

[tidal minnow]

Unfortunately least shit =/= good value):
Can say the same for amd.

[neon mesa]

refer to my previous message

[stray apex]

dlss is straight up more impressive than rt

[dreamy rose]

FSR is more valid because it works anywhere.

[stray apex]

raytracing is mostly just a matter of dev support and computational power

[regal bough]

You can mock ray tracing can’t you in game engines

[stray apex]

dlss is actually new technology

[neon mesa]

RT is a total gimmick but DLSS was revolutionary
unfortunately it's becoming an excuse for devs to be lazier

[tidal minnow]

Both of them are miles away from understanding it. Amd is just a few millimetres closer lmao.

[regal bough]

Pretty sure even roblox does it

[neon mesa]

then it doesn't make FSR an AMD selling point

because every thing has it

[tidal minnow]

I mean that isn't a BAD thing for consumers.

[neon mesa]

that's like saying minecraft is a playstation selling point

[pliant sphinx]

Most implement it wrong. So uhh

[neon mesa]

it isn't a bad thing, it's good, but it's definitely not something to get amd over nvidia on

back to my original point were, DLSS is a valid marketing point

[regal bough]

Is Sam a valid selling point

[neon mesa]

SAM is just renamed ReBar which nvidia can also do

[distant wren]

FSR still has to be implemented in order for it to Work. 🤷‍♂️ thought DLSS was just working out of the box. (correct me if im wrong).

[neon mesa]

DLSS need game support what are you talking about

[pliant sphinx]

My biggest problem with the 4060 Ti is the 8GB/128bit thing. Like, what. The lack of actual horsepower for the price is another thing

[neon mesa]

you might be thinking about nvidia image scaler which is a driver level upscaler that DON'T need to be implemented but it looks like shit

even then AMD has Radeon Super Resolution which is their version of the driver level upscaler

[tidal minnow]

True. These more recent features would help me choose rdna2 over 30xx but then I would've probably gone that route anyway due to price/performance of amds rdna2 compared to 30xx.
I guess the idea is that it makes you think "neat, I don't lose out THAT much by buying an older card from amd" but again as you said nothing to chose either or over.

[dreamy rose]

Fidelity FX Super Resolution is a driver version of FSR. Nvidia wouldnt have something like that its too nice

[pliant sphinx]

FSR is literally more simple, that's why it works on older GPUs. It doesn't need to utilize special hardware.

[regal bough]

Doesn’t Sam have more overal benefit with how much vram it can access

[neon mesa]

i was very happy with my 6600xt until i needed CUDA
if RDNA 2 has feature parity with nvidia i would definitely keep my 6600xt

[neon mesa]

SAM is an already existing technology, not an AMD thing

they simply renamed a feature called Resizable Bar

[regal bough]

I know but comparing it to rebat

[tidal minnow]

I think nvidia reaching for newer and newer features as a company. Makes them quite revolutionary. Rt and dlss may even end up dominating if they evolve it over a few generations.

[neon mesa]

ReBAR and SAM is the same shit

[regal bough]

Oh literally? Why’d they not call it rebar

[neon mesa]

marketing

[stray apex]

it's only a matter of time before rasterized lighting is abandoned for traced lighting

[regal bough]

Wild

[dreamy rose]

its a better name for the feature

[pliant sphinx]

But, the problem for them is that competition is catching up. Intel and AMD are going for them.

[stray apex]

and with how much nvidia is putting into AI, dlss is obviously going to become more and more prominent

[pliant sphinx]

I hate how they close one DLSS version behind each generation 🥲

[stray apex]

gotta sell those new gpus

[tidal minnow]

True but. 50xx and 8000 could say otherwise depending on how much they evolve their hardware and software. But again I can say the same for amd and Intel.

[neon mesa]

i'm not for RT ngl
Ray Tracing is the "dumbest" way of rendering light and most computationally heavy
and is actually the first way we try to render light back in the 80s but they were too heavy which is why we have our "conventional" lightings
we should develop a more efficient but realistic lighting
i mean nvidia got AI
we don't need to bruteforce lighting by tracing a light ray one by one

[pliant sphinx]

That is the problem, on the 40 Series it ain't happening

[stray apex]

(also newer versions of dlss can actually require new hardware)

[dreamy rose]

i mean Smart Access Memory is more descriptive than "Resizable Bar"

[stray apex]

it's the most realistic, it looks the best, and it's the easiest to develop with (if you have the power)

[regal bough]

I have faith for Amd and their quest to have the most powerful gpu. Simply because I like the underdog

[tidal minnow]

I hope that all of them get better because competition is the best scenario cause that makes the market more consumer friendly cause BAM price drop BAM more features from amd and nvidia to fight each other with BAM more software and hardware packed into gpus. Only way i can see ourselves getting out of this mess.

[pliant sphinx]

AMD's RT has evolved so much in the 7000 Series. And Intel, well, has really good one too considering it's their 1st gen.

[neon mesa]

like look at minecraft shaders, they're not actually ray tracing at all and still look gorgeous
albeit performance is not great mainly because it's java lmfao

[regal bough]

Why sink 1,300 dollars into a gpu anyways when you could buy some amazing headphones

[dreamy rose]

i like AMD becuase their products actually dont stink of Boring

[pliant sphinx]

Java code is f*cked up

[neon mesa]

ray tracing is entirely a gimmick and a computationally wasteful way of light rendering

[tidal minnow]

If you smell both asses of each company you'll smell the same thing.

[dreamy rose]

AMD doesnt smell of 14nm

[regal bough]

Personally pbr lighting

[pliant sphinx]

Yet it made the popularity of the 30 series and 20 series skyrocket. Marketing works.

[neon mesa]

Screen Space Ambient Occlusion combined with Screen Space Reflection already make a reallllyyy good lighting effect

[stray apex]

nah
ray tracing is the future of lighting (or path tracing if you want to be pedantic)

[neon mesa]

the future being using the oldest way of rendering light and is the most efficient way

[manic torrent]

ray tracing is CURRENTLY mostly a gimmick

[stray apex]

the future is to use the best way

[dreamy rose]

path tracing is by and far the more important step towards best real graphics. Ray is baby play

[stray apex]

ray tracing is the most accurate way to simulate light, so if we have the computational power to achieve it then that's the obvious choice

[neon mesa]

it will always be a gimmick if it's just for gaming
ray tracing can be useful for some scientific applications but for gaming they really waste TOO much computing resource when there are rendering methods 5x more efficient

[stray apex]

who gives a shit about efficiency

[regal bough]

Cats

[stray apex]

do you think AAA gives half a flying fuck about efficiency

they can't even be assed to make their games fit in 16gb of vram on release lmao

[manic torrent]

you are talking about at the client. ray tracing is wayyyyyyy less work at the development end

[neon mesa]

doesn't change the fact that ray tracing is the dumbest and least efficient way of light rendering

[regal bough]

Pbr in combination with ray tracing is sexy

[pliant sphinx]

And it needs VRAM. It just needs it. And they're still not giving us enough. It shows that the "real deal" is still not here.

[stray apex]

so?
we go with what's the best available, not with the most efficient

[neon mesa]

ah that makes sense now
ray tracing is pushed so hard because devs can implement it easily

[stray apex]

it's easiest to work with and it looks the best

[neon mesa]

another case of laziness by the dev side

[pliant sphinx]

I just wait for the 4060 Ti to get destroyed in 1440p by newest UE5 games. Lack of VRAM sucks.

[neon mesa]

looks the best? subjective and wastes the most computing resource

[dreamy rose]

RT is pushed so had because of Nvidia trying to fuck the consumers brain into "Nvidia = best"

[stray apex]

not at all subjective
it is literally the highest fidelity lighting option available to us

[regal bough]

I remember when someone once tried to tell me ray tracing only existed with Nvidia

[pliant sphinx]

Marketing works

[stray apex]

unless we start fully raytracing the actual image, rt lighting is as good as it gets

and I kind of doubt we're that close to full real time raytraced rendering

[neon mesa]

so it's a gimmick then

[dreamy rose]

you see what fanboy nonsense does to a MF? no research. no fact checking just outright shilling.

[stray apex]

no?
it's the highest fidelity option

[neon mesa]

only for those wanting the most fidelity like ultra settings

[stray apex]

yes, that's literally how advancements in graphics technology work

[neon mesa]

what's best for the consumer is an efficient light rendering method and ray tracing is the bottom of that list

[wispy marsh]

I wanna see infidelity, not hi-fidelity

[pliant sphinx]

Ultra settings is bad to be played on. Devs use this for the "Do it till you break it" approach with effects and graphics.

[neon mesa]

alright now i have done my part at pissing both sides of the fanboys
i have completed my objective at being objective
i gtg now

[stray apex]

ah yes
DOOM was truly the pinnacle of consumer friendly graphics

[dreamy rose]

when you realise that High and ultra are barely different any more

[slim barn]

What's best for the consumer is quality. And the game looking as good as it can. Consumers don't care about efficiency.

[pliant sphinx]

In many games also a nice FPS boost.

[regal bough]

Is pbr and ibl a good alternative to rt

[neon mesa]

then why don't we have 2000w fermi GPUs
also please kindly tick the @ off so i don't get pinged i really need to go

[pliant sphinx]

id software is the king of making Optimized stuff. Long live.

[tidal minnow]

Pretty much. But if you don't stick at it for more than 2 generations it's gonna stay a gimmick forever ain't it?

I want to be optimistic and hopefully I'm not a fan boy I swear but

Give nvidia 5 years. And I bet you theur features right now (if they actually work on them) will be revolutionary.

I know it probably won't happen but we can hope right?

[pliant sphinx]

There's always competition. We can't see into their plans and to the future. The most likely revolutionary thing to happen is that Nvidia will raise prices every gen.

[tidal minnow]

Welp I asked Google to set a 5 year timer.

[distant wren]

it went off today?

[tidal minnow]

No I just set it.

[distant wren]

oh ... but would you remember why you set the timer in 5 years?

[tidal minnow]

Yes?

[dreamy rose]

thats why its named

[distant wren]

is it possible to name a timer? 🤔

[slim barn]

A timer is just a timer. I think what they mean is a reminder.

[distant wren]

"Alexa put a timer for 3 min"
Alexa : "okay setting time for 3 min"

• 3 min passed "
  booop booip boop beep beep beep beep
  Me: what was this timer for? 🤔

[dreamy rose]

has bro ever used a Callender app?

[distant wren]

reminder and timers are 2 things.
naming is a very hard thing to do in life, and in coding.

[dreamy rose]

it counts down until the Date/Time is reached,

same thing.

[distant wren]

sadly, it refers to a same act, but the wording is crucial.
Source: "Trust me , I'm an engineer :D"

[regal bough]

Literature majors trying to find a use in the world

[slim barn]

A timer is a duration. A reminder is a specific date & time.

[lament crystal]

Huge congrats to Emily, glad she's able to be her true self and I know the majority of this community will support her

[slim barn]

And event.

[manic torrent]

yeah for sure

[lament crystal]

Also glad to know Linus openly supports her

[dreamy rose]

psst. you might not wanna look at Reddit for a while.

if ever.

[lament crystal]

Actually the post on Reddit I saw seems pretty supportive of her too

[dreamy rose]

i've heard exactly the opposite but i dont browse reddit

[lament crystal]

Reddit is usually from my experience a trans and LGBTQ+ positive site

[quick patrol]

Trust me, dont select new comments on youtube or reddit

< needs to be used alot right now on those sites

[stray apex]

as long as you don't sort by new or controversial you shouldn't see anything terrible

[timid meadow]

Was super happy ltt made a public comment that can be pinned. No more is needed from them on the matter. Handled well

[tidal minnow]

I wanna buy a cheap ass am4 aio for the aesthetics. But which one should I go for hmmmm. Is buying a random white one of the Internet a good idea?

[manic torrent]

results vary wildly depending on sub 🙂

[distant wren]

"This comment has been marked"
You have won a price please contact my phone number, to win a price! use telegram to contact the number.

thats what youtube sometimes become 🤔

[lament crystal]

Guess I just stick to the good ones

[manic torrent]

eh, I mean same as facebook.

[neon valley]

good evening

[quick patrol]

Nah, its just disgusting people being disgusting right now on both sites

[distant wren]

well every scammer is disgusting 😄

[fringe copper]

I still cannot fathom how another person can operate with a totally disregard to another human being and how they choose to live their life.

Good on Emily and I wish her well, looking forward to many future appearances and sticking it to the haters. There are still good people in the world.

[mellow matrix]

good mornin g

[quick patrol]

Old people brain washing young and thus the cycle repeats on people just being disgusting if it doesnt harm them

[neon valley]

damn im feeling uncomfortable in my working station but i can't think whats wrong on it

[mellow matrix]

so um, who's this emily person??

[timid meadow]

You used to know her as Anthony

[mellow matrix]

oh, big lad who sometimes shows up in ltt videos?

[timid meadow]

Yea

[quick patrol]

https://twitter.com/emilyayoung1/status/1662594633560387590?s=46&t=J9uHDs3Uhl3nJdEcoZ1Y7A this has the awnsers you seek

[mellow matrix]

I see

[dreamy rose]

real Linux wizard too

[quick patrol]

But yes anthony is now emily and alot of the community i hope are really being postive

[dreamy rose]

i want more of emily talking about linux.

[pliant sphinx]

Linux Tech Tips

[mellow matrix]

ngl I kinda saw this coming

[dreamy rose]

doesn't matter what its about i just wanna see more Emily.

and why would Linus not support her? i mean they had Ivycomb working there.

[stray apex]

who

[dreamy rose]

https://twitter.com/ivycomb

[stray apex]

I have no idea who that is

[dreamy rose]

is a cool dude,

[neon valley]

thank for the news

[amber rover]

Same, tbh. Like Mac Address, but for Linux.

[dreamy rose]

they are kind of a bee that makes music. and worked at LTT.

[quick patrol]

used to go by jessie bee it seems

[dreamy rose]

i think the best moment was when he was in a Jimmy Here Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0rxm7YbG84

[gentle slate]

Shopping for a new phone

Why do all the new ones have those disgusting cutouts and notches...

[neon valley]

what OS you choose?

[gentle slate]

android coz I get free spotify and youtube premium

[neon valley]

noice

damnit my HUION 13 get hotter after 10mins used

is there way to do cooling for it?

[gentle slate]

man the new phones are garbage jesu

Why does samsung have 500 variations of their S23

also gdamn, samsungs are as expensive as iphones.

[neon valley]

just find something that suite your needs

[gentle slate]

theyre all shit

[fringe copper]

Not buying a new phone is also an option.

[wispy marsh]

iPhone is a good phone

[amber rover]

Not really...?

[stray apex]

huh
my steam cache is cpu limited
didn't see that coming

[pliant sphinx]

Preference and model matters

[amber rover]

Apps keep getting heavier all the time.

Plus, like my phone has been through the ringer over the last 7 years.

[clever coral]

i dont even have a phone ATM

[amber rover]

I've got a big black splotch of dead pixels in part of the screen, a weird green line running close by it, part of the integrated case has fallen off, etc.

[wispy marsh]

Okay, my iPhone 14 is a good phone

[amber rover]

I don't even know what caused the first two things, and aside from some scratches you'd have to look for to find, the glass on the screen is utterly pristine.

So I don't think its fall damage.

[wispy marsh]

The new google fold looks good tbh

[gentle slate]

my phone is ded

[gentle slate]

cant get free adfree spotify and youtube on iphone

also reddit is fun isnt on iphone. Also idk how tf to navigate the file system on iphone. Apparently you cant just plug it in and browse the files in windows explorer.

[dreamy rose]

wtf reddit was never fun

i couldn't go 5 minutes without reading "i dropped my side panel"

[wispy marsh]

I have Apple Music, YT premium and Apollo Ultra

As for my file system, I have an iCloud subscription and also vpn samba share on my home server I can use

[summer folio]

who is Emily?

[wispy marsh]

Previously named Anthony

[dreamy rose]

Anthony

[wispy marsh]

Hmm, young lady's complaints just reminded me that I should back up my iCloud files to my samba

[gentle slate]

I assume you are subscribed to yt premium and apple music

I dont wanna pay.

[wispy marsh]

Yep yep, both services for the family, too

Yeah, Linus, apparently the short form of "who are" can't be used because it's mentioning the red light district

Anyway, I have four people who are in both plans

[prisma sail]

Yt music, apple one, gpt plus, protonmail visionary, etc

[wispy marsh]

Protonmail any good?

[summer folio]

it was foretold!

[prisma sail]

Spotify too

[prisma sail]

Visionary is

I enjoy the platform and service stability

[wispy marsh]

There is a small subset of emails that Outlook just refuses to pass to my inbox, and I end up having to use Gmail

[prisma sail]

Mailbox.org is nice too

[wispy marsh]

Proton, hm?

[prisma sail]

One of the benefit is of your email being a domain you own is, you can just swap to whatever provider you want

[summer folio]

it takes ages loging into Proton

[prisma sail]

Or host it yourself if you want

[wispy marsh]

Depending on how they are, I might use Proton or iCloud

[prisma sail]

It doesn’t ?

[summer folio]

does

[wispy marsh]

I have iCloud mail but I don't use it as much

[prisma sail]

If you are well in the apple ecosystem, apple does support you using your own domain there as well.

[dreamy rose]

"Ben Shapiro breaks AI art with facts and logic" whats he gonna say, Humans don't have 7 fingers on each hand?

[prisma sail]

C:

[wispy marsh]

There's a limit, but in a recent version of iOS they've included the ability to let us use other domains' emails

[prisma sail]

Yea that’s what I was referring to, it works

[summer folio]

Does apple have an email?

[prisma sail]

Yes

[summer folio]

[e-mail]
[e-mail]

[dreamy rose]

[e-mail]

[gentle slate]

ok the only iphone within my price range is a regular iphone 14 128gb

[summer folio]

Like that?

[wispy marsh]

Nope, it's not apple.com

[prisma sail]

@icloud.com

[wispy marsh]

It's iCloud.com

[wary summit]

??

[summer folio]

Never seen anyone list their email as @icloud.com

[wary summit]

Get 13 Pro

i have

[dreamy rose]

why an iphone?

[summer folio]

apple bubble world?

[wispy marsh]

[gentle slate]

im exploring my options

[wary summit]

iCloud.com

[wispy marsh]

Get a fire extinguisher ready

[wary summit]

Try Xiaomi 13, I really, really want to get one.

[dreamy rose]

yeah. but would it actually even work for you though?

[wispy marsh]

I hope we get to stay civil

[wary summit]

Or get 13 Pro, 14 is a reskinned 13

[summer folio]

Xiaomi so slow, like I bought 1 new for 50$ & it was lagging

[gentle slate]

idk im exploring

[wary summit]

literally, 14 is not worth it

[gentle slate]

13 isnt even carried in the store anymore

[wary summit]

I mean, you get what you paid for.

[wispy marsh]

It isn't worth it, so i got a 14

[wary summit]

Buy it either, Online, becayse 14 is actually shit

[gentle slate]

cba im getting the s23+

[wary summit]

Its literally an iPhone 13. Like Literally, with "advanced" cameras

@gentle slate https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10508&idPhone2=11103&idPhone3=12013

[dreamy rose]

best option i guess, at least its android

[gentle slate]

shopping for phones has turned into a chore

[wary summit]

those, are really good options, but then again, S23, is decent

[gentle slate]

10 different models per flagship per company

[summer folio]

Plus Ultra? You get a built-in Pen!

[gentle slate]

no just the +.

[wary summit]

why +?

[gentle slate]

coz wh ynot

[wispy marsh]

Apple gonna come up with an iPhone Ultra, sometime in the near future. That'll be five phones each year.

[dreamy rose]

why not the -?

[gentle slate]

Iphone Pro Max Ultra +

[summer folio]

So, penless then?

[wary summit]

Introducing the Samsung S24 -

[gentle slate]

yeah. Dont need no pen

[dreamy rose]

its the same thing as the S24 but not as good

[gentle slate]

S24- will be a rebranded s23+

[summer folio]

What a slogan! S24 Minus - Just a little bit Worse!

[wispy marsh]

Oh, the iPhone 14 has

• 1 more GPU core
• 6GB instead of 4GB ram
• BT 5.3
• Satellite calling
• 39mAh larger battery

That 6GB was why I went with the 14 instead of a 13, coming from a 12 Pro Max

[amber rover]

All I want in a phone is that it won't be slow as molasses in 5 years, has a manufacturer that will be around in 5 years, has a 3.5mm jack, an SD card slot, and isn't running iOS.

[dreamy rose]

would be funny if they did that and people realised it was literally the same thing

[dreamy rose]

well iOS immeditely ruins half of those wishes.

[gentle slate]

oh yeah didnt both samsung and iphone ditch jacks

[wispy marsh]

I should get airpods pros gen 2

[gentle slate]

I wont be able to use my headphones with them anymore. Not my earbuds nor my PC headphones

[amber rover]

True, but I wanted to emphasize my revulsion to Apple

[amber rover]

Worst design decision ever.

[gentle slate]

man new phones fucking suck lmfao

maybe ill just replace the screen and battery on my S9+

[summer folio]

Bet! My S6 Edge+ had 3,5mm jack
& All Sony Xperia 1/5/10 I/II/III/IV has 3,5mm jacks

[wispy marsh]

[dreamy rose]

if i ever use an apple product its either gonna be borrowed or a hand me down because fuck giving apple money

[velvet flint]

Wah? Talk about a chat history revival

[summer folio]

Pretty Sure Sony Mark V about to release

[amber rover]

How the fuck am I supposed to use my phone as an honest-to-god FM radio without a 3.5mm jack?

[wispy marsh]

You know, you can get cashback from the Apple store

[summer folio]

Just get a Sony for 3,5mm jack.

[dreamy rose]

yeah its called a refund so you can buy a better phone

[wispy marsh]

That is one way to look at it

[velvet flint]

Don't even remember what I was talking about back then

[amber rover]

Congrats on the gender

[gentle slate]

Man I actually don't know what to get. IPhone sounds like a fun adventure, but a chore to actually use. Meanwhile Samsung is well. Samsung.

[summer folio]

Gender reveal party time!

[amber rover]

E X P A N D B A T T E R Y

[velvet flint]

🤔

[dreamy rose]

if the experience isnt broken dont leave it

[amber rover]

Dammit, wrong reply.

[dreamy rose]

my A11 is probably at risk of that. well fuck

[gentle slate]

@dreamy rose my S9 is feeling slow, the battery life is atrocious and it needs a screen and back glass replacement, the charging jack is fucked and loose and barely makes contact when charging.

[amber rover]

Happened constantly to my mom's S8.

I just count myself lucky it hasn't happened to my S7 Active

[timid meadow]

Im happy with my s21fe so far

[dreamy rose]

well i was talking about the samsung experience,

[summer folio]

Just use wireless charging, that's what I use for my S6 Edge+

[gentle slate]

oh idrc about the experience. it works like a phone

[dreamy rose]

well then just buy any old samsung you see shouldnt matter to you, just dont go buying the A1x-2x-3x phones if you have good cash to spend around

[gentle slate]

i avoid the a series like the plague

I had a budget phone before. What a terrible experience

[dreamy rose]

i mean my A11 was an upgrade from the iPhone 6.

[summer folio]

It's actually Samsung Alpha Series

Alpha > Beta

[faint schooner]

@full fossil see my results

[dreamy rose]

Sigma> Alpha> Beta

Sigma balls

[amber rover]

Oh god, don't even get me started on edgy phones.

[amber rover]

Sigma? More like Ligma.

[dreamy rose]

its so sad steve jobs died of Ligma

[amber rover]

what the hell is steve jobs?

[dreamy rose]

Ligma ballz

[amber rover]

https://tenor.com/view/gman-walk-once-in-life-gif-18803920

[swift moth]

it's a job where everyone is named steve

[dreamy rose]

Humor driver error, please reinstall driver using Correct CDs

[swift moth]

I prefer floppys

[dreamy rose]

CDS NUTS LOLOLOLOLOL

[amber rover]

Linus in a few hours: "What the fuck happened here?"

[dreamy rose]

theres a Stigma on this chat.

[swift moth]

true

I barely pay attention to this channel tbf

[wind pulsar]

That's boldly assuming Linus ever reads anything in here

[amber rover]

True.

[gentle slate]

I think I'll get the s23+

[analog grove]

many, many congratulations to Emily!

[scenic haven]

https://tenor.com/view/zakir-naik-may-allah-forgive-you-because-i-wont-gif-25702260

[scenic haven]

what did emily do

[analog grove]

she let us know she's emily

[scenic haven]

aight

there is 3 of em

[summer folio]

@emelie

[fair stream]

Just came here to say the same thing 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

[near nymph]

Who the fuck is Emily

[neon mesa]

https://twitter.com/EmilyAYoung1

[austere jay]

I hope she does more Linux content when she's ready.

[rugged tartan]

I have risen from my gaming tomb

And I just touched grass LET'S FUCKING GOOO

[dreamy rose]

linux gaming guide 2023 or even 2024?

[near nymph]

Oh God

[silk carbon]

Hello

[near nymph]

Wait... Why are people congratulating someone for coming out... 🤔

[toxic gull]

because it isn't easy

[tired glade]

Something something culture

[dreamy rose]

its hard to do it cause bad people scream

[timid meadow]

[near nymph]

Great... Ya identify as another gender. That's nice ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tired glade]

Don't overthink, you can offense someone

[timid meadow]

Just grab your popcorn and watch pub chat today. Those of us who actually dont understand or care will lurk, while those who "dont care" fight with those who wanna feed the trolls

[tired glade]

Classic

[smoky ravine]

Emily should host Linus trans tips! 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️❤️❤️❤️

[near nymph]

...

Linus isn't the trans person... Why is he included? 😂 I mean Emilytranstips would make more sense

[dreamy rose]

its on brand.

[loud locust]

congrats emily :))

[toxic gull]

Emily ftw

[tiny saffron]

Emily the goat

[timid meadow]

i can hear kids making ET jokes about a trans person already (Emily Trans Tips abbreviation)

[tiny saffron]

this need a rename now

[strong kettle]

is that NSFW

[dreamy rose]

i wonder how many people would say this video is biased or paid by AMD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJT5ZM91dl0

[near nymph]

Mhmm

[neon mesa]

it's LTT Emily bruh

[strong kettle]

oh

[timid meadow]

I cant wait for the bts of the yvonne video to hit floatplane. Love watching those 2 just do cute couple shit even if its slightly padded for camera

[near nymph]

Yvonne is just a great person in person.

[dreamy rose]

a long but fun watch.

[near nymph]

Back in LTX18. She was really nice to me when I was fucking around.

[tiny saffron]

Every one need a friend like Yvonne

prob the most supportive person there is

[dreamy rose]

when did Linus drop the Razor out of its box again?

[near nymph]

Dunno

[tiny saffron]

2017

[dreamy rose]

ah LTX17

[tiny saffron]

time to give Linus something to drop for every LTX

[near nymph]

Gosh... Nothing like a nice quiet place after going to the club...

[tiny saffron]

police station

[dreamy rose]

what he dropping next?

[tiny saffron]

a demon core

[dreamy rose]

Whonock IP Address.

[tiny saffron]

Classified US documents

[tired glade]

Wait, again?

[dreamy rose]

we are just speculating on new things for linus to drop at LTX23

[tired glade]

Isn't his resignation lines up with ltx?

[surreal sedge]

soup kitchen gaming

[dreamy rose]

https://tenor.com/view/soup-can-pyro-pyro-tf2-demoman-demo-gif-19172150

[surreal sedge]

embed fail

😦

[dreamy rose]

Soup Can

[surreal sedge]

cheese burger

[dreamy rose]

One man cheeseburger Apocalypse

[surreal sedge]

whobber

[dreamy rose]

hamburger

[surreal sedge]

burger cheese

[wary summit]

bam bewger

[full fossil]

Its kinda sad how many people are still dumb enough to be phobic

[dreamy rose]

not everyone can be smart

[wary summit]

? its kinda sad, not to be mean, but be all LGBTQIA+ you want, just dont tell other people to explore their options.

[upper storm]

can someone help me convert Wh to mAH

[wary summit]

Google.com

[wary summit]

average war thunder forum

[strong kettle]

Its always war thunder

[full fossil]

It's just dumb from yt perspective

Like I can find plenty of videos (high view counts) that has clear bigotry comments and yt doesn't give two crap

[keen sequoia]

I bought 6 pwm deep cool rgb led fans and replaced my entire case that had random fans all over the place i got like 17 fans now some molex some pwm some msi and some Chinese what should I do with them?

[dreamy rose]

massive external watercooling radiator time

[keen sequoia]

most of the Chinese ones cant overcome 800rpm

I don't think it will be effective
or maybe my power supply because it had 1 molex connector was overwhelmed

[wary summit]

yea, those are the ones hat cost 10 yuan each

[keen sequoia]

The only crabby ones were the ones that came with a genuine acer case .. I got some Huntkey molex fans those go so high rpm and yet so silent it crazy how biggest companies makes the worst stuff

[pliant leaf]

WHAT

well that explains the absence from videos, happy for her but

i need a minute

[neon mesa]

i was surprised too

[amber rover]

So, I'm just a rando that doesn't know her at all, but I've got a stupidly good transceiver, so I am actually not surprised by this at all.

And Emily, if you read this, its just game recognizing game.

[main cloak]

🏳️‍⚧️

[pearl sluice]

I'm happy for Emily, I'm glad she's being herself

[main cloak]

13 years in the closet, i cant imagine what the pressure must have been like. even 1 year for me was enough to blow the closet up

[dreamy rose]

oh hell another earthquake?

[amber rover]

Its been a little over 10 for me. First it was "gotta be sure I'll be safe when I come out", and that took forever, and I finally managed to do so on Thanksgiving 2019. And then it was "gotta be able to afford transition", and then Covid hit, and I got fired, but was swimming in unemployment money, but I saved that shit for paying for rent and stuff because my mom became disabled, and also my truck broke down, so even if I could afford to transition, I can't actually go to any appointments, and UGGGGGH.

[random brook]

I thought it was a joke at first, then realize it's real

I'm so glad for her

[dreamy rose]

WTF is going on with Australia rn. not even a year earlier we had a proper small earthquake but now we had a weaker one.

for as long as i can remember we never even had one until that first one.

[neon mesa]

if something weird happens in australia
the explanation is: "well it's australia whadya expect"

though that mostly applies to the.... big creatures

[full fossil]

Is linus in this server?

[pliant leaf]

it's just

i have been following anthony from fucking 2013, all i know from linux is through him

should i even say anthony when talking about the past? all i'm saying is i had a very specific mental image and this is incredibly unexpected

[slow sonnet]

people love saying twitter is a shithole but yt comments once again proveit wrong by being ever worse 🤣

[pliant leaf]

they're all coming from 4chan, i'm on there rn and it ain't great

[timid meadow]

Noone would get mad if you said anthony by accident, but from here on out the person you are thinking of is a she who goes by Emily

Same person, think of it almost like theyve been wearing a mask the entire time youve known them

[dim steppe]

my aunt gave me a free 7/11 employee vest

[neon mesa]

what's a 7/11 /j

they kinda failed on my place due to local competition kek

[wind pulsar]

Sick, now I feel bad
There's a restaurant that I always go to that more or less only opens at night

I go there see the door open and people preparing things, though I'd make an order

They just took the order, turns out I ordered shit from them an HOUR before they even officially opened

So I just made preparing their work night harder for them lmao

[neon mesa]

put big enough tip and they won't mind

[timid meadow]

Sounds like their fault for having open doors and someone to take your order

[neon mesa]

just make sure to be polite or something as to not be taken as disrespectful money

[wind pulsar]

You don't give tips in Japan

Like, people will not accept tips

[neon mesa]

oh yea

i just remembered watching on youtube about it

[random brook]

What's that Sony phone again with an HDMI in port?

[wind pulsar]

They did that to ventilate kitchen lmao

[pliant leaf]

my friend was chased by an employee for half a block after leaving a tip by accident

[gilded quest]

Xperia Pro

[random brook]

tnx

[pliant leaf]

but that's an hdmi out, isn't it

[wind pulsar]

Yeah, they for some reason make it out as rude but people don't care lol

People generally just don't do that so they have no idea what to do with it

[random brook]

no it's not

[gilded quest]

Xperia Pro has HDMI in for Sony cameras

[random brook]

it's an input for cameras

[pliant leaf]

oh right you can do that weird ghetto thing with the camera

[neon mesa]

back in the netherlands tipping is not compulsory like the US
but they will take it

[pliant leaf]

dutch people will tikkie you for water

[wind pulsar]

It isn't in all of the relevant European countries

[timid meadow]

Is it only for cameras? Or is an xperia pro a cheap portable raspi screen? 👀

[wind pulsar]

Even in PORTUGAL you don't tip and that's saying something

[gilded quest]

Cheap ($1600????)
I actually have no idea of the capability, however the marketing was for use with alpha cameras

[timid meadow]

Oh nvmnd rip thats a price right there

[pliant leaf]

it's a phone that has some specific functionalities for professional photographers, it's a whole ecosystem

[wind pulsar]

I told them that it's fine to tell me that they're technically not open yet they just went 'Nah it's fine'

[neon mesa]

on my place now even you don't tip still, malaysia.

you can but servers can't care less if you don't

[gilded quest]

Tipping has gotten so much worse here since the pandemic

[wind pulsar]

(Portugal is the pisspoorest EU country, hence why I said that)

[neon mesa]

though my half dutch face kinda got me issues here sometimes

[timid meadow]

Servers got beef with the kitchen suprise mf we open now

[neon mesa]

US is extremely hyper inflated in living cost

[wind pulsar]

You can really tell when people migrated into Japan, ngl

Japanese owners are either fake-polite or they're massive assholes, you can tell the guy I go to genuinely doesn't give a fuck (he's turkish)

[timid meadow]

Bro my server pissed me off yesterday. Service was alright, buddy tipped cash, i was gunna tip on the card till she looked at me and said "or you both could tip" im like excuse me????

[glacial sand]

Turkish lol look in tech chat 1

[timid meadow]

I havent even paid yet

[wary summit]

should i get Xiaomi book 12"

[heavy dust]

fake polite is still not a bad thing

fake polite is still polite

[wary summit]

Its, a Windows 11 12" tablet... With Snapdragon 8CX?

[wind pulsar]

It is, he's still telling you to fuck off while sugarcoating his tone

[neon mesa]

what a way to cancel my tip

[amber rover]

For non-Americans: there is no state where 40 hours a week of minimum wage will allow you to rent the cheapest studio apartment in that state.

[wind pulsar]

Fake-politeness also often leads to awkward conversations

[tribal echo]

@late flax Richardwolfman457
#9295 <- Scammer

[heavy dust]

fake polite isn’t supposed to be obvious

[timid meadow]

Buddy added $3 to his tip to be nice but she didnt get a penny from me

[wary summit]

hey, its not bad -

only 17W power draw!

[wind pulsar]

It is obvious since people deal with it every day
Why are you debating this if you don't understand what I'm talking about lol

[timid meadow]

I was opening my mouth to say ill tip on card as she said that bs

[neon mesa]

wew finally my stable diffusion is working again

[wind pulsar]

Correct decision, my answer would be 'Oooor I could just not tip anymore. 😄'

[neon mesa]

17w is big, there are many low power 17w laptop chip that handily fucks it over

[dreamy rose]

that's more intense than i thought it would have been. that one was apparently a 3.8

[neon mesa]

the result of tip being compulsory instead of reward for good service

they feel entitled to it, and i can't blame them considering US employer can underpay them because tips

[heavy dust]

i understand

[wary summit]

sorry, 17w whole system, SoC says 5w

[neon mesa]

ah now that is small

[wary summit]

but i find that hard to belive

[low rain]

I forgor I’m going fishing today and I slept at like 2am

[neon mesa]

because 17w SoC is toasty for a phone

[wary summit]

Prime 95 is 17W

Idle, it draws 2.5w

guys, should i pay the extra $100 t get 1TB over 256?

this is for my GF...

[dreamy rose]

https://github.com/thestinger/daniel.micay.dev/commit/79e44b41190cd5c64c4ccd9fec4301ee6008da53

[wary summit]

dang

[dreamy rose]

nice. GrapheneOS good ending.

[wary summit]

I love android, I can dial down my display brightness, so my dad thinks its off when he confiscates it

[pliant leaf]

why good ending tho

[dreamy rose]

he was kinda a Douche canoe.

don't know if hes leaving for good. don't think its necessary for him to. he just needs to work on himself thats all

[pliant leaf]

interesting

sometimes i really miss android. but the apple ecosystem can't be beaten. samsung doesn't even come close

[dreamy rose]

the basic part is Techlore came out with a video showing screenshots of him being a bit of an ass in a chatroom. Louis Rossman commented that it was informative and disappointing. then he went into Louis's DMs and chewed him out for nonsense like how he is all against him and brainwashed by doctored screenshots and if i remember correctly he said something about it being as bad as attempted murder. then he blamed Autism on his lack of respect when talking to other people.

[round trellis]

i had a old gaming laptop bought in 2013 with gt 730 and i5 3rd gen (was top of the line back then) , i need a secondary laptop for some gaming purposes (totally not for testing hacks in an alt acc) , so can I replace the screen?

[ripe lintel]

pls help:https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1112393171352178799

[spring socket]

Emily's coming out tweet is already getting quote retweeted by bigots...

[earnest cedar]

goddamn, i was like "nonsense everyone on reddit was so supportive", checked the youtube comments and im amazed people this stupid can use a keyboard

[urban ether]

There will be bigots and other unkindly people. The best is to drown them out with positivity.

[spring socket]

Transphobia remains alive disappointingly

[spring socket]

Twitter's been even worse

[exotic stirrup]

You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Twitter and YouTube comments must be avoided at all costs

[amber rover]

At least reporting the youtube comments will be taken seriously.

Well, more seriously than reporting the ones on twitter.

[earnest cedar]

now theres 2 emilys at LTT, gonna have to start calling them emily Y and emily S, or writer emily and editor emily

or emily and other emily but they'll have to fight to see which one gets to be the original

[amber rover]

Next up: a lady named Emma Lee.

[spring socket]

I thought the other Emily left

[earnest cedar]

emily seddon? i think shes still there

shes still on the site https://linusmediagroup.com/our-team

[shell mountain]

Anyone knows how can i play same tracks on multiple windows devices simultaneously

[modern hornet]

Yo another Intel third gen user

My 3rd gen i5 with i5 still rocks ngl (I don't game). Even with 1080p video editing

[pseudo wagon]

GUYS YOU CAN ORDER YOUR OWN LINUS MAID FROM LTTSTORE.COM

[velvet root]

is my linus maid supposed to drop all my expensive china like that?

[pseudo wagon]

Unfortunately you’ll have to linus proof everything… but you get free tech tips, so its up to you whether its worth the purchase

[round trellis]

damn , my laptop takes like 3 seconds to load gta 5

why do people act like it take years to load?

[fossil frost]

not everyone has your laptop

[pseudo wagon]

People have consoles

Of last generation

[low rain]

I have a rx6600 and a 5600G, it takes around 2-5 minutes to load in.

[full fossil]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxdxID-_tsvpqyLh0Hk1JGPNYgTfnI-UTN

[strong kettle]

ssd?

[low rain]

Sn550

[velvet marsh]

I haven’t loaded it in a while, but it definitely used to take a while even on high end hardware.

[low rain]

But even for my friend who has a 13900kf and a 4090 with a 980 pro it takes him a while

[iron orbit]

Hey, how would I move pictures off an iPhone to a portable HDD?

[eager notch]

Linus Deck Tips

[tidal minnow]

Plug your iPhone into a pc using a lighting cable to usb A adapter.

And see if your phone appears in your files.

See through your files and drag the ones you want onto the hdd

[pliant leaf]

there's also a windows icloud app

i think you can move things from the phone to the pc through it

[tidal minnow]

Oh cool

S21 ultra for £200 is that a good deal?

[pliant leaf]

UI is disgusting but it's actually rather convenient

[iron orbit]

I don't use iPhone, trying to see how I can help my mom with it. Haven' messed with one in years and last time I used iCloud it would only back up files to the PC into it's own proprietary zip thing from what I remember. Can File Explorer see the iPhone files nowadays?

[low rain]

My brother is buying a 2060 just because he likes the way it looks

[tidal minnow]

No no no no no no no no no

How much is he buying it for? If its not too bad then maybe its fine.

[low rain]

$240

[vital niche]

Do all the pictures from LTT products need to be updated now with Emily?

[low rain]

either way he doesn’t game so he doesn’t really care that it’s not as good as all the new things

[mint coyote]

Are there any laptops in the 14-15" size that weigh 1.5kg (3.4lbs) or less with either a very powerful integrated gpu or a lower-end 2050/3050 style discrete gpu? I saw the Zephyrus G14, which is 1.7kg, which isn't terrible, but the charger is enomrous and weights another 400 grams.

Hoping to spend $1200 or less.

Thanks for any tips

[round trellis]

yeah but it takes like 30 seconds on my old laptop

[round trellis]

imagine 🤢

[tidal minnow]

Oh cool I found an anniversary gtx 980 for £50

I don't care if its bad for £50 I genuinely like it's designed.

I would sit this on my wall lmao

A 980 for £50 isn't actually a bad deal tho is it. Ain't it like 1070-1060 level?

[pliant karma]

this? go for it lol wall decor

[tidal minnow]

I KNOW! It's an hour drive away though.

[dusty rune]

thats so sexy oh my god

[tidal minnow]

I wonder what the anniversary 1080s look like 0_o

[tidal minnow]

I know -_-

[dusty rune]

do the drive

[native rock]

if I can call someone and the help me and the pc works i would be willing to pay! (I know it sound a little weird i cant just let this biuld go to waste)

[pliant karma]

msi's version of it

question can I find it

[tidal minnow]

Awww gawd that looks cool

It must be expensive

[pliant karma]

There's also Colorful's 1080ti Kudan why does my brain say buy a 1080/1080ti to have as wall decor

[tidal minnow]

This 980 is in my price range to

Too. I could work for a week and get that.

Fuel would be around £10-30

@pliant karma OH MA GAWD

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/941435447100489/?ref=facebook_story_share

That shit would actually be viable in a pc build.

I'm gonna cry I'm gonna cry don't cry

[full fossil]

i read that very wrong

i read that as linus dick tips

[tidal minnow]

I watch those all the time-

[full fossil]

lol same

[gilded quest]

never seen this before on YT

[gilded quest]

damn i kinda like that

[full fossil]

Dislike back?

[gilded quest]

yes
idk if that message is from the plugin or YT itself

[dusty rune]

disabling dislikes is so lame

[tulip tusk]

wth is LTTs new post?
on instagram*

[summer folio]

https://www.instagram.com/linustech/ does not work, you got the link?

[midnight idol]

it's from the video

[tulip tusk]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CsyoWXku_yn/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[tulip tusk]

oh.

that's funny

[summer folio]

Aight, I just get a blank screen

[vital niche]

#tech-chat-1

[tulip tusk]

do u have an account on insta,
else try on a broweser

[summer folio]

not logged in, desktop browser, yes KEK

[tulip tusk]

try logging in

[summer folio]

10 sec delay so annoying

[tulip tusk]

ong, reduce it to 5

[summer folio]

link worked on phone app 🧜‍♀️

[tulip tusk]

ah hahh...

nice

[summer folio]

LTT should rehire maddison for their social media pages.

[tulip tusk]

true

[gilded quest]

eh

I think their new people are doing pretty good

[summer folio]

I mean Linus not CEO any longer, what's stopping them

[gilded quest]

for starters, I think she quit?

so why would she go back

[summer folio]

Double her pay!!1

[pseudo wagon]

SSD?

[fallen cedar]

windows moment

[pseudo wagon]

Lmaoo

mac in the corner

[fallen cedar]

the amount of times ive stared at that fucking circle doing fuck all

[pliant karma]

I forgot about Madison lol.

[fallen cedar]

ugh and then the AUDACITY of Gigabyte to load their splash screen with an "INSIST ON ULTRA DURABLE" logo while it fails to boot

[summer folio]

A laptop without built-in full-size ethernet jack is not worth using.

[tired glade]

Headphones one?

[full fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKYV2qjYIS0&t=88s this made me almost die lol

[tidal minnow]

Gargh should I buy an s21 ultra for £200 on an s22 base for £200?

Ooh a samsung s21 base for £120 but it's an hour drive away 0_o

[vivid hearth]

S22

[summer folio]

Everything is Jack, 3,5mm jack, Ethernet Jack, USB jack

HDMI Jack, Displayport Jack, Power Jack

[summer folio]

S21 Ultra does not have S-Pen, so it's not even a fake Note.

[tidal minnow]

Wait I swear the s21s have s pen? Sadge no s pen?

[ruby lake]

No :(

S22 ultra does

[tidal minnow]

What about camera and battery and other specs?

Is s22 base better than s21 ultra in those things?

[summer folio]

it does not have Built-in* S-Pen, no. S22 Ultra & S23 Ultra are the Note wanna-be replacements

[full fossil]

note 20 ultra slaps

[tidal minnow]

Does base s22 have better camera and performance?

[full fossil]

for some reason i still play doom games from 1990s

[summer folio]

Europe Exynoss land or do you live in other places?

[tidal minnow]

Europe.

[ruby lake]

They're both similar, but the larger, more hertz screen on the ultra can take a toll on its life, battery wise

[tidal minnow]

Oh ffs I forgot about that exynos shit.

[ruby lake]

Yeah that exynos generation is not great (nor is any for that matter)