public-chat

[fresh flower]

mgs collection is confirmed for steam yes

[graceful burrow]

where

i searched and could not find mention of it
only ps5

[slim mirage]

ps5 controller does the same thing when connected so should be fine

[open flower]

I hope elden ring releases another dlc shit was too good

[fresh flower]

https://kotaku.com/metal-gear-master-collection-snake-eater-hd-collection-1850481173

[open flower]

Oh so when I connect my ps5 to my pc I should click on the ps5 one?

[slim mirage]

yeah

[open flower]

Oh okey

[fresh flower]

Announced alongside Metal Gear Solid 3 Delta, Konami’s Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1 will come to PS5, Xbox Series X/S, and PC by way of Steam in just a few months,

[slim mirage]

i can test if a headset actually works if you want but i dont have the same headset as you so might be different

[fresh flower]

playing mgs3 on an xbox controller is gonna be jarring

[graceful burrow]

the article that kotaku references for including it on steam doesnt mention its coming to steam

[fresh flower]

from the konami press release

`Simultaneously, we will deliver the METAL GEAR SOLID: MASTER COLLECTION series, the most complete compilation that celebrates the 35th anniversary of the series. The METAL GEAR SOLID: MASTER COLLECTION allow fans to play the games as they were, as first released on the latest platforms.

We hope you will enjoy the METAL GEAR series on the latest platforms.`

[graceful burrow]

whre can i find the press release

[fresh flower]

platform(s)

https://www.konami.com/games/us/en/topics/2212/

[graceful burrow]

thank fuck

[fresh flower]

rare konami w

[graceful burrow]

wait no
makes no mention the collection will be on steam

[fresh flower]

pachinko machines stopped being profitable ig

[graceful burrow]

just "platforms"
which could mean ps4 and ps5

[fresh flower]

gamepass also teased it

on twitter i mean

[graceful burrow]

no they didnt
just snake eater remake
not the collection

[still light]

My friend was talking about that last night

[dreamy rose]

i honestly care less about the hardware of the handhelds, i care more about SteamOS. though the hardware is a really good thing to have too.

an APU killing off the 1060 is basically the dream.

[still light]

Need steam os

[slim mirage]

Was for a weird situation for someone who only has a ps4 mic or something

[dreamy rose]

we do need SteamOS to go nuts.

[still light]

I can't wait. My dream is that it becomes the standard for game makers to "craft games for".

[near nymph]

SteamOS runs off Linux... We need Linux support for these games to go nuts 🙂

[dreamy rose]

i just dont wanna be forced into using Winblows

[near nymph]

You aren't forced. You choose to use windows so you can access the applications that run off windows

[dreamy rose]

pretty much am at this point

[near nymph]

What apps do you need that only runs off windows?

[glass lantern]

I don't know if I was in need of a good laugh so it just tickled me way more than it should have but like I was seriously in pain from laughing at this clip too much.

Like perfect timing as well as I have 2 weeks off work so what better time to rewatch Dragon Ball Z Abridged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGnjSWexxzU

[dreamy rose]

i cant use proton because of my GPU and games aren't native to Linux so a chunk of my games don't work for me.

fault of hardware not Linux

[near nymph]

Wait why not get another GPU then?

[dreamy rose]

M part

when Nvidia actually named their laptop parts propperly

[near nymph]

Im thinking about getting a new laptop. Kinda want to dual boot Linux and windows

[dreamy rose]

then go for AMD advantage for that

[near nymph]

XPS15 Looks kinda great. 2 M.2 slots

[still light]

Amd is goated

[dreamy rose]

or in general just an AMD laptop. better chips and best for linux

[glass lantern]

Honestly for a Laptop I don't see the need for more than 2TB of storage, but to each there own

[dreamy rose]

Gaming laptops:

[glass lantern]

Yeh but assuming you have a NAS and a desktop...

[dreamy rose]

Workstation laptops:

[near nymph]

I want my Linux installation and windows installations on separate drives

[glass lantern]

fair enough.

[near nymph]

Plus. Money isn't the problem. NVMe Drives have came down in price significantly nowadays

[glass lantern]

Na I'm not saying that price is an issue, I'm just saying like 2TB drives aren't that expensive and again if I have a NAS and a desktop there just isn't much I need to keep on a laptop.

[stray apex]

Steam is really annoying about keeping games on a nas

[glass lantern]

you can set up a steam cache

so like you "download" the games, but like your not actually downloading them

[still light]

That's what I've heard and the only reason I haven't even attempted it.

[stray apex]

Yeah, but that's extra work

I wanna be able to just tell steam to shove a game over to a nas

[glass lantern]

it a 1 time thing so I think it's worth the set up.

[still light]

This

[low rain]

whats the best gaming gpu under $300 usd

[still light]

What would the Hassel be for Valve to make that possible and why hasn't it been implemented yet?

[still light]

7600

[glass lantern]

to be honest again if every time you have to go, "store to NAS" you will end up spending more time doing that.

[stray apex]

Looks like there's a docker thingy for a steam cache so ig I can just use that

[still light]

All my games would default to NAS

[dreamy rose]

if you want brand new latest gen then the 7600, if not the 6700XT

[still light]

But for honestly 6700xt > 7600

Sounds backwards I know. But it is what it is.

[dreamy rose]

absolutely

[stray apex]

Do I need to set up a dns to use a steam cache
That sounds annoying

[dreamy rose]

i will only recommend the 7600 if you require it to be a Current gen card.

[glass lantern]

to be honest though I don't see any reason to go current gen for AMD.

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rs92FT/xfx-speedster-swft-309-radeon-rx-6700-10-gb-video-card-rx-67xlkwfdv $280

[glass lantern]

except for maybe a 7 - 10% performance improvement in like 2 years time

[still light]

Driver updates maybe?

[glass lantern]

as said 7 - 10%, but half the VRAM of a 6700XT

[dreamy rose]

if they release FSR 3 with frame gen there'd be a reason. there was a leak that FSR3's frame gen is gonna be monster. but thats a hope not a promise.

[glass lantern]

[stray apex]

I've lost faith in Radeon rumors years ago

The best Radeon rumor was that two 480s would match a 1080 so they dropped the 1080to

[glass lantern]

That wasn't the reason they droped the 1080Ti

[still light]

Crossfire was the future!!!!

[glass lantern]

like even back then SLI / Crossfire was dumb unless you only played like 2 - 3 games

2 - 3 specific games

[still light]

The idea is really really cool

[stray apex]

I mean, amd definitely didn't have anything else to scare Nvidia

[still light]

Sing two gpus to split the work load and increase performance. Sounds awesome.

Sing?

[glass lantern]

The 1080TI was released because they already planned to release it, because NVIDIA actually somewhat cared about wowing people back then.

[still light]

1080 is a goated card. I want one just for collecting purposes

[dreamy rose]

years ago.

[glass lantern]

Meh 1080Ti is the more iconic card

[still light]

I never had interest in amd gpus till last year.

Back when it was only ATI it was hot dog shit

[still light]

Regardless of it being the TYE or not tbh

[glass lantern]

Eh ATI had as many bangers as NVIDIA did, it was just in the last 2 years before they sold where they just gave up on driver development.

which left AMD with a steaming mess.

which is AMDs own fault for buying it, and over the odds at that.

[rancid forum]

1080ti was a champ, esp if u bought it used before 2020

[still light]

Before 2020...

[rancid forum]

U could get a 1080ti in 2019 for like 350-400 dollars

[still light]

I'd hope you had.

[rancid forum]

I did

[dreamy rose]

i'm interested where the Charts go on the Steam Hardware Survey. could Radeon climb over that 20% mark now?

[rancid forum]

If the prices on last Gen cards keep dropping, yes I believe by eoy

[dreamy rose]

Steam Deck/Ally is gonna be pushing it there anyway

[still light]

Yes. It will

[still light]

You think by eoy?

[rancid forum]

Well by Sept I hope to see 150 dollar new 6600

That is conservative hope too tbh

150 dollar new 6600 will mean 75-100 dollar used 6600, that's cash money

[dreamy rose]

I'd probably say it'd be likely to happen in 3 months or so. but if the 7600 really outsells the 4060's hard then they have plenty to get excited for.

[rancid forum]

Radeon drivers were a bit rough until this year

[dreamy rose]

6700s being better deals yes but the 7600 is outselling the 4060s.

[glass lantern]

Like I think NVIDIA just plans to sell to people who will buy NVIDIA no matter what and just put the rest of there wafer allocation into AI.

[rancid forum]

I think the 6600 and 6600xt will become the new 1060 on steam charts

[still light]

I think a lot of SI's will use and opt for the 7600 for the lower price points. But at the same time people STILL opt for the nvidia products cause "nvidia".

[glass lantern]

so I don't think NVIDIA cares.

[rancid forum]

Well Nvidia no longer has a GREAT board partner

Amd still has GREAT board partners

[dreamy rose]

we will be dealing with "AMD DIVERS BAD" forever.

[rancid forum]

AMD has Power color and sapphire, meanwhile Nvidia has like who, zotac maybe??

[still light]

Lol true. Although AMD updates their drivers fast enough that I have zero complaints.

[rancid forum]

Valid criticisms up until this year

[glass lantern]

Powercolour?

[dreamy rose]

Acer is coming but they are doing everyones stuff

[rancid forum]

Hm?

[glass lantern]

because it's been power colour that has been making the best cards recently

[still light]

Inb4 Evga decides they want to get into the gou game again and goes AMD

[vapid smelt]

It's easy to outsell trash

[rancid forum]

Yea I just said powercolor haha

[glass lantern]

I know you meant Sapphire, but like

[dreamy rose]

they should have given nvidia the middle finger and ran for Radeon

[wispy marsh]

Hold up. AMD doesn't have major OEMS?

Asus. Asrock. Gigabyte. Microstar. Powercolor. Sapphire. XFX.

[rancid forum]

Who said that?

[vapid smelt]

MSI too

[wispy marsh]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6900-xt.c3481

[still light]

Idk how Evga will survive without their gpu sector. Like yes, they make mobos and psus. But when you bought a gpu and it was nvidia. You got an Evga card.

[wispy marsh]

Fun fact: MSi stands for Micro-Star international

[still light]

Wow big if true

[vapid smelt]

Who the fuck calls them by the full name

[wispy marsh]

LG stands for Lucky Goldstar, not Life's Good

[rancid forum]

I just bought a 3080ti evga literally 2 weeks before they announced they were ceasing gpu sales

[wispy marsh]

Trollers

[rancid forum]

Holding onto that for dear life then I'm switching to AMD

[glass lantern]

To be fair according to them while GPUs made up like 80% of their revenue it only made up like 10% of their profits or something like that.

[wispy marsh]

I got a 3090 FTW3 for free the week after they announced they're not longer doing GPUs

[rancid forum]

For free???

[dreamy rose]

they haven't gone bankrupt yet. hopefully they realize the errors in their ways and go for making Radeons

[glass lantern]

so they will be doing better from a margin standpoint

[vapid smelt]

Yeston

[wispy marsh]

It's not with me. It's with a friend who refused to replace it in a system that's running a R9 290X

[still light]

I'd imagine with using AMD as their gpu they'd make more profit off a board using the AMD gpu than they ever would have doing nvidia. Just based off of AMD reference card prices vs nvidias.

[wispy marsh]

We uh, don't talk about China

[dreamy rose]

what i want the most however is the bloody iGPUs on desktop. we NEED them.

[still light]

I want a yeston tbh

[wispy marsh]

You want a powerful iGPU that's performant and efficient enough for you to not behave like a spoiled child? The Apple M series chips have pretty decent iGPUs.

[still light]

I miss the days of the hot babes and dragons and wizards graphics that where on the gpus back in the day.

[glass lantern]

I think they didn't want to go AMD or Intel because they didn't want NVIDIA retaliating against the staff that will be getting laid off.

[still light]

Tye newer AMD cpus you'll be getting that

[still light]

How would nvidia have anything to do with Evga staff if they went to AMD

[dreamy rose]

the 7000 series desktop chips only have the crappy 2CU 610M

[wispy marsh]

You want a powerful iGPU that's performant and efficient enough for you to not behave like a spoiled child? Currently, the Apple M series chips have pretty decent iGPUs.

[still light]

What kinda games are you expecting to run on the igpus you're talking about

[wispy marsh]

I think Bob can introduce your audience and you to some IT jobs if you want

Today, I believe a meagre 50k/y AUD is pretty alright to live in the less expensive parts of australia and have good GPUs

[dreamy rose]

anything that would run on a 1060/1650.

[glass lantern]

Like on a desktop 2CUs is enough to decade and encode video and do basic 3D acceleration and obviously get you a display out.

that is fine

[dreamy rose]

but the 610M is just crap.

[wispy marsh]

The display out is the important part

[still light]

5600G

I don't think that'll happen for awhile really.

[dreamy rose]

Vega is far from RDNA.

[still light]

This is true.

[glass lantern]

Like I don't get the obession with powerful APUs for desktop.

[wispy marsh]

You're just putting the horse before the cart, and you can't see the forest for the trees

[still light]

How don't you?

[dreamy rose]

Dead Budget cards, tf you mean you dont understand?

[glass lantern]

For laptop I can see it because of the power efficiency gains for desktop nope

[wispy marsh]

The amount of fire extinguishing I or anyone have to do for bionic can be considered a full-time job at this point

Where's my money

[dreamy rose]

its not about Efficiency its about being cheap and easy to build.

[still light]

If I can build a micro pc without a dedicated gpu. And just use integrated graphics. I'd do that

[wispy marsh]

Okay, I get your point about being easy to build

[glass lantern]

If your on that much of a budget the second hand market should be your first port of call, in which case you can get a RX 480 for like $60. and if they made a powerful APU they would charge you for it.

[still light]

Imagine instead of buying and needing a separate and dedicated graphics unit to play game X, Y and Z you just plopped the cpu in the PC and it works. Making the form factor incredibly small and enticing to people especially those who want to have a home media center sorta thing.

[dreamy rose]

you dont need to worry about a GPU in the first place if an APU is there.

[glass lantern]

like they already charge you for the weak ass APUs we already get.

[wispy marsh]

It's just, statements like "easy to build" for a GPU is prime material for plugging in this video
https://youtu.be/BL4DCEp7blY

[glass lantern]

Yes, but that means you need to upgrade your CPU and GPU if you want to only do a GPU upgrade costing you even more money.

[wispy marsh]

Especially when we're in the discord server of the company that made this video

[dreamy rose]

if you want a better GPU then you can just buy a GPU. nothing stops you doing that. a CPU upgrade is the same its just up to the user

[wispy marsh]

Nothing says it better than 2 hours of your time learning is less worth the frustration of an improperly installed component, even more so one so basic like the GPU

[glass lantern]

But then the extra money you spent on getting a APU with a decent iGP is just wasted

[wispy marsh]

Unless, of course, your average income per hour is 300+ to compensate for any motherboard that you might be willing to buy

[full fossil]

does anyone know where I can go to get a dualsense controller working on a steam game on mac? the controller works in big picture but not in bioshock remastered

[wispy marsh]

Then, you can fuck up all the components you want because you can afford it

[dreamy rose]

you use the APU for 2-3 years, buy a GPU. get a new CPU a while later if you want or just buy a new APU.

[glass lantern]

where as if you bought a GPU in the first place you can sell that GPU to partly pay for the upgrade

[wispy marsh]

No

APUs are terrible CPU for the value in the first place

[still light]

You're playing bioshock on a Mac and trying to get a Playstation controller to work?

[glass lantern]

Like I am not going to ague this point it's just less cost efficient in the long run and probably even in the short them than going used for the GPU.

[wispy marsh]

What do you call it when you're being repeatedly told something is true to you, when in reality it is either not true or highly subjective or would take you too much time & effort to find the reference?

[glass lantern]

because like if you want to have memory on package it's gonna have to be HBM or be a single module of GDDR so either expensive, or you are not going to have the memory bandwidth for a high performance GPU.

[still light]

What the heck is going on I
In here??? I thought we were just talking about how cool it would be to have a cpu that's integrated graphics were as good as a 1060/1660...

[wispy marsh]

I'm not making this up.

[glass lantern]

Like you could go with eDRAM but then you are limited by capacity

[still light]

Someone explain why eth and sif are mad

[glass lantern]

Wanna reply to the exaxt reason I gave why it would not be cost effective.

[wispy marsh]

Well, because i grew up in a family that heavily abused aspects of gaslighting and emotional neglect that made me wary of such tactics today.

[glass lantern]

By which I meant this "because like if you want to have memory on package it's gonna have to be HBM or be a single module of GDDR so either expensive, or you are not going to have the memory bandwidth for a high performance GPU."

and by high performance I mean significantly more than like a 1650

[wispy marsh]

I said it before. The primary intended use case for including a GPU in a non-APU is to display out. A non-functional requirement is to have better performance. To lump them together is putting the horse before the cart, and not seeing the forest for the trees

[near nymph]

Jesus alot of clubs in Vancouver are stepping up their game. They are using machines that scan IDs to see if they are real lmfao

[wispy marsh]

Functional and non-functional requirements, you can learn it in software engineering

[glass lantern]

Dude I was aguing that high performance APUs don't make sense in desktops

I said that 2CUs if fine for desktops.

[stray apex]

They make a ton of sense for amd

[dreamy rose]

i still dont get how the idea of the APU didnt make sense for you.

[stray apex]

Now instead of someone buying a 7800x3d and a 4090

They'll just buy your 7950x3d+7900xtxx

Want to upgrade the GPU but the CPU is still great? Too bad

[wispy marsh]

High performance in a primarily CPU-focused SoC, i agree. High performance graphics for an APU, is slightly different segment of the market.

[dreamy rose]

Budget.

[glass lantern]

Like I just said "APUs" on desktop make sense to me, just not high performance APUs.

[still light]

Why can't we just get along...

[glass lantern]

because you are going to add a bunch of cost to the CPU in the memory.

[dreamy rose]

which is the entire point. killing off Budget GPUs. cheaper, more efficient etc

[glass lantern]

because you are basically limited to HBM for a high performance APU.

[wispy marsh]

Not just budget. There are people who want pretty decent performance while traveling without being tied down to extended warranties and laptop's insane level of irreparability. Even during the era of Steam Deck and ROG Ally, SFX cases exist where you can't simply put a GPU.

[dreamy rose]

its a really good application for HBM actually.

[glass lantern]

for laptops sure

desktops not so much

[dreamy rose]

what throw 8GB on a 16CU iGPU and you're pretty golden.

[glass lantern]

like I think you all missed that I have been repeatedly saying that I am only talking about desktops.

[dreamy rose]

i am talking about desktops too.

[glass lantern]

Yeh then no

HBM is expensive

so you want to put HBM on a budget CPU...

[neon mesa]

High performance APU makes absolutely no sense unless you plan on putting a GPU down the line
They're paired with a very powerful CPU for a weak ass iGPU (like 5700G)
You're paying a lot for performance you don't use

[dreamy rose]

yes, it absolutely makes sense to have a High performance APU on a Desktop CPU.

[wispy marsh]

There technically is high bandwidth memory on a consumer APU, and it's extremely widely available too, with decent graphics performance

Apple sells it

[neon mesa]

And memory performance is really the last thing to worry in an iGPU
HBM is utterly overkill

It didn't even help Vega 64

[dreamy rose]

fast RAM has provided a really good benefit for the RX 680M.

[glass lantern]

Okay so your going to have a APU that costs like $350 - $400 that performs like a 6600 which can be had for $200

[wispy marsh]

For me, an APU is a chip for people to have something to use while they're waiting for the next cpu+gpu king of budget

[neon mesa]

Mainly because System RAM is pretty slow and not used exclusively by iGPU

But for integrated VRAM GDDR is more than enough

HBM just adds cost on what supposed to be budget focused APU

[wispy marsh]

Another reason to not have high-performance graphics for APUs is because of the die size

[glass lantern]

and you can get a 12400F for like $150

or a 5600 for $140

[neon mesa]

An APU will only make sense if you can't get it for cheaper than similar performing CPU + GPU

[wispy marsh]

I assume you would need a CCD's worth of space to put in a good GPU, but it would be such a niche and expensive market that it'd either be a dipping your toes in the pond product or something you're doing to put up a fight against Apple

[neon mesa]

The reason why 2200G was so good
You can't get 1030 perf at $50 back then

[wispy marsh]

It's not something that intel and AMD is trying just yet

[still light]

New Oddheader video is out. Not promoting. But if you guys like Easter eggs and humor. This guy's got it.

[glass lantern]

Like again in laptop a 6600 intergrated into a APU would be fresking awesome in thin and lights.

[neon mesa]

And its cpu side performs similarly to i5-4570 which at the time still pretty pricy used.
So i5-4570 + GT 1030 for $99 in 2018 is huge (2200G)

[dreamy rose]

whatever route they choose they need to be killing off these outdated cards. HBM or integrated GDDR or whatever they need to release.

[low rain]

The previews at this movie are taking too long holy shit

[neon mesa]

GDDR6 memory are absolutely dirt cheap, even DDR5 is pricier

[wispy marsh]

I said it before. The primary intended use case for including a GPU in a non-APU is to display out, while the primary intended use case for APUs is to be good performance for the budget or be compact enough for a 7-litre chassis. A non-functional requirement is to have better performance.

[glass lantern]

but that would be because you can charge like $1500-$2500 for a thin and light

[low rain]

The people in front of me are playing Fortnite on their phones???

[wispy marsh]

Why are they not putting in better graphics in their CPUs?

AMD and Intel have a major investment and business in the graphics division.

[gilded quest]

I think AMD Phoenix APUs will lead to some great mini pcs

[dreamy rose]

wait for Strix Halo

[glass lantern]

2 words memory bandwidth, also in laptops the weak grahpics have a use in reducing power consumption because you can turn the dGPU off and run the iGP for lower power consumption.

[wispy marsh]

Are you asking AMD and Intel to ignore the lower ends of the GPU market where they can reliably product trash that lower-income people or less tech-savvy people will most likely buy?

[neon mesa]

I can't understand modern desktop APU (5600G). vega 7 slower than GTX 750ti that you can get for 30 bucks and a CPU performing like a 3600 which you can get for 80.

[wispy marsh]

I think, their shareholders will say "no". And you can do nothing about it.

[wary summit]

whats the diffrence?

[alpine gale]

Which phones?

[still light]

What movie

[gilded quest]

One is more advanced

[wary summit]

you'll have to guess

[low rain]

Fast X

[wispy marsh]

iPhone 14 and iPhone 13/12?

[still light]

They made another one???

[neon mesa]

Lol i see 12 MP
Must be an iphone

[wary summit]

Should i get 14 or 13?

[wispy marsh]

14

[glass lantern]

3

[gilded quest]

iPhone 14 (advanced)
iPhone 13 (not advanced)

[wary summit]

fr

[wispy marsh]

Wow, you're changing it quick

[gilded quest]

14 pro because 60hz is ass

[wispy marsh]

I'm only telling you to get the 14 because I have it

[neon mesa]

S22 Ultra

[gilded quest]

S23 ultra

[neon mesa]

S23 i heard is a new note 7?

[low rain]

Yep and I just saw like 10 Edgar’s walk in 😭

[wary summit]

whats the diffrence?

[gilded quest]

Snapdragon 8 gen 1 (S22U) is not efficient

[neon mesa]

If the rumors that S23 is like note 7 not true then S23 ultra

[gilded quest]

Newer socs and radios

[glass lantern]

Nokia 1100

[still light]

You're gonna have a good time

[low rain]

Last time I went to the movies the people next to me were just vaping the whole time

[gilded quest]

I've not heard anything about splody Samsungs recently

[neon mesa]

Homestly, Fold is pretty neat

[gilded quest]

I want pixel fold

[neon mesa]

That wide screen estate looks like dream

And i don't need a bigger purse for it

[wary summit]

I'm debating, Between iPhone 12 Pro. Or iPhone 13. Or Xiaomi 13...

[low rain]

The time before that people in skimasks started talking to me

[gilded quest]

Fuck it
Xiaomi

[neon mesa]

Though I'm pretty biased, I'm pretty much a samsung fangirl so there's that

[gilded quest]

Pixel

[glass lantern]

DynaTAC 8000x

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/t3IAAOSwxQRgXvYg/s-l1600.jpg

[wispy marsh]

Imma tell you I don't know how camera works, but to Apple when they say Advanced, it is usually coupled with software. I've heard the iPhone 14 being terrible because of the excessing smootheing of the image.

[wary summit]

Yea, but im getting 2, one for me, one for s/o

[gilded quest]

But not LG OEM'd pixels

[neon mesa]

Samsung's android just feels the best

[gilded quest]

Dual pixel 6a

[wispy marsh]

The iPhones may not have the greatest hardware, but I've been using the iOS ecosystem with my family for the last few years and it's been nothing short of "non-intrusive" and "don't have to set anything up for it to just work".

[neon mesa]

I am very tech oriented but still i look dumb when trying to use friend's phone that uses gesture navigation

[wary summit]

yea, in australia, they're about the price of a xiaomi 13

[gilded quest]

Gestures

[neon mesa]

I'm not giving up navbar over 2cm of screen

[wary summit]

yea, same with xiaomi. Been quite easy to setup

[wispy marsh]

The key part about iOS is that everything that you have in the phone, just works

[neon mesa]

Nothing ever breaks in my samsung thou

[wary summit]

The key part about android, is when you want something, you get it

[still light]

Are yall really arguing about cellphone OS....

Bunch nerds

[glass lantern]

except a semi budget phone with USB 3 transfer speeds...

[gilded quest]

Android vs iOS is an age old debate

[wispy marsh]

I'm talking about Game Centre, Apple Family One, Find My iPhone with the U1 chip that is hella accurate with their Airtags, seamless sharing for notes, iCloud content, pages, numbers, keynotes, reminders, calendars, etc

[still light]

It's not even a debate. Android is the better one.

[neon mesa]

Hmm need an IP camera... OLD ANDROID!
Need an AI Tracking motion sensor, OLD ANDROID
Need sensors for VR full body trackers... OLD ANDROID

[wary summit]

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10508&idPhone2=11103&idPhone3=12013

[gilded quest]

Not for everyone

[neon mesa]

You can repurpose old androids for anything

[stray apex]

Face tracking

[gilded quest]

I miss ir blasters in western phones

[wispy marsh]

Just login with your iCloud account, and everything is set up in the background for you. Just like a premade docker cluster.

[wary summit]

IR blaster saved my life once...

[wispy marsh]

You don't have to do much to it to get it up and running

[wary summit]

thats the only thing i envy, but i've got most of that, with xiaomi account, Notes, Photos, Most system apps are synced

[neon mesa]

I wanna buy a comically powerful usb IR blaster to troll

[still light]

No...no... android is definitely better for everyone.

[glass lantern]

Yeh Apple is for normies,

[neon mesa]

Iphone is a phone for everyone
Android has a phone for everyone
-stolen from someone

[gilded quest]

Competition is good

What's the old android motto

"Be Together, Not the Same"

[wispy marsh]

Alright. I haven't used an android phone since the iPhone 3G, i can't do much to convince you

[gilded quest]

And then Google killed Androidify 😭

[dreamy rose]

apple is for fools

[still light]

I think it was "Hello Moto"

[neon mesa]

Google account also does the same and it's universal on all androids

[wispy marsh]

oh boy, here comes another fire to extinguish

[glass lantern]

Thats what I said

[neon mesa]

I loved my moto z play

[still light]

What do you mean by this

[neon mesa]

If only i got the modules for it

[dreamy rose]

normies buy Samsung

[neon mesa]

I buy samsung and I'm not a normie

[gilded quest]

Never owned a Motorola never will. They make bad phones

[still light]

You're right. Casio is the only good Android phone mfg.

[neon mesa]

Samsung android OS simply feels solid. Pixel also.

[gilded quest]

I miss old HTC.

Even the first few pixels were HTC engineered

[dreamy rose]

you aren't a Normie but you still buy a Samsung. there are always exceptions and you are one.

[neon mesa]

My mom also absolutely love Samsung. Got a whole three of them.
A Z Flip 4, S9+ and A31

Idk why she needs 3 but eh her money

[still light]

Samsung is the best phone mfg.

[neon mesa]

I got an S8+ 6GB and the Tab S7

My dad uses an iphone 14 but plans to switch back to android because he's not comfy with it

[still light]

I have the free one the store gave me. Cause I only use my phone for work and discord.

[dreamy rose]

biggest? sure but best? nah

[glass lantern]

Nomies don't care about the freedom that comes with Android because they are never going to look into it enough to know they should care in the first place.

Like that isn't really a dig, like I don't care about power tools I just want something easy to use.

[neon mesa]

I just want a swiss army knife of a phone that can do anything when the time comes.

Same reason i picked an nvidia card since i never need to worry about compatibility on niche use cases

[glass lantern]

except when you do

[still light]

Wtf do yall do with your phones that any of this is even an issue though

[tepid bolt]

All I ask for is a good screen, decent camera, good battery life. That's it.

[signal geyser]

Android's strength lies in being able to offer both experiences.

[neon mesa]

Eh personally use it for whatsapp and discord and youtube only
But it saved my ass couple times on such niche use cases.

[dreamy rose]

the whole android freedom part? go look for emulators on iOS

[still light]

Why am I playing emulator on my microscreen compared to my 42inch 4k oled. Or my 27 inch sony trinitron on the actual original hardware...

[neon mesa]

Because you can't bring your big screens anywhere

[dreamy rose]

have you ever gone outside?

[still light]

If I'm traveling that's when the steam deck comes into play.

[neon mesa]

That's another $400 device

[still light]

Ohhhhh outside? Yea no. That place is scary tbh.

[neon mesa]

And steam deck's screen is not particularly huge so your microscreen argument kinda hits you back

[dreamy rose]

not everyone has the luxury of a Steam Deck

[neon mesa]

Not everyone has a steam deck but everyone sure does have a phone

[still light]

Ohhh we are talking in a "my only gaming device is a phone" scenario?

[dreamy rose]

more a "My only gaming device on the go is a phone" Scenario

[still light]

Yea you'd be right. Largest screened android probably best. I have a Samsung tab 7? Idk it's like a 12inch screen or something and I have dolphin on it and have played zelda and shit on it.

[neon mesa]

Though for portable gaming i rather use my pico 4 vr than a steamdeck device. Ooga booga Big virtual screen

[glass lantern]

I raise you an ipad

[dreamy rose]

iOS

[still light]

I've not owned an Apple product since like 2013?

[glass lantern]

don't iPads use iOS, to be fair I have never used one I was just playing devils advocate.

or more aptly just being a dick

[still light]

I lost interest in Apple products when I couldn't do half the shit I can do on an Android.

[dreamy rose]

iOS is absolutely irrelevant to the discussion's situation. we are discussing Android and iOS barely does half the stuff android can.

again my main point being Emulators.

[still light]

Yea iOS is actually bad. It's super userfriendly for like basic people and old people. Like it does work well and I love the way it feels when manipulating the phone. But when it comes to offerings for goofing around. It's objective that ios doesn't hold a candle to half the stuff android can do.

[glass lantern]

you can't get emulators on iOS, not that I personally use them, but like.

[still light]

Excuse me

[dreamy rose]

while an iPad may be a "Better Tablet" its not gonna do Emulatorsat all

[neon mesa]

Almost as if Each OS has its own use cases
A pointless argument tbh

[glass lantern]

na I'm actually being for real that I don't use them.

[deft vortex]

why isnt my fucking monitor turning on

[dreamy rose]

what matter of horse shit are you speaking ofc android has Emulators on it.

[deft vortex]

I connected it to my gaming laptop via hdmi

[glass lantern]

I meant to say iOS

[deft vortex]

shit is not working

[still light]

Is the laptop screen turning black too?

[deft vortex]

It's pissing me off, i re plugged it, i tried pressing the power button, and no

[dreamy rose]

ofc iOS doesn't because its a locked down piece of crap.

[deft vortex]

my laptop screen is just fine

[manic torrent]

For most people they do the same stuff.

[glass lantern]

Like I just don't use Apple products because I'm cheap.

[dreamy rose]

absolutely no life or just not connecting?

[glass lantern]

so it's just a win by default for me.

[deft vortex]

its completely off

it won't even turn on

DELL s2319nx

is the model

[still light]

Help our man Quack out and out the bs ios vs android argument to the side.

We got a tech homie in need of help.

[slim yacht]

same lol. not that i dont have the cash to buy them, its just that another products offers similar for less

[deft vortex]

im bouta throw this monitor out my window

[still light]

Nah fam. Give it to me.

[deft vortex]

i have it plugged in

ive tried pressing the power button, ive re plugged it 8 times

restarted my laptop

[still light]

Have you checked windows display settings?

[dreamy rose]

what, its a 1080p 60hz monitor?

[deft vortex]

yes

[dreamy rose]

trash

[deft vortex]

do you want me to
BITCH I DO NOT CARE IF ITS TRASH ITS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME

ARE YOU GOING TO HELP ME OR JUST EXPLAIN TO ME HOW ITS BAD

[dreamy rose]

idk shit about troubleshooting a monitor all i know is it sounds dead.

[deft vortex]

i dont either

thats why i went into here

[dreamy rose]

the only thing i can think of is if its plugged into one of the powerboard things and if that'd unplugged or something.

[ebon otter]

did you try the on button?

[deft vortex]

yes many times

[still light]

Is it like an old ass used monitor?

[deft vortex]

its my dads old work monitor

[still light]

Hdmi?

[dreamy rose]

probably just dead.

[deft vortex]

yes

it worked just fine a couple months ago

[still light]

OK, so you've plugged in the monitor and the little screen turns on and you can tell it's on.

You plug the hdmi cable into the monitor than plug it in to the laptop.

And NOTHING happens at all. No screen flashing on the laptop or anything

[deft vortex]

ok so @still light my laptop goes black for a second then back to normal but the monitor doesnt do shit

[full fossil]

gn better. will not support a company anymore as long as an obese troon is a public figure that represents it

[still light]

So the laptop sees that something got plugged in

[deft vortex]

yes

[still light]

Huh?

[still light]

And you checked windows display settings and when you do does it show the drop down menu for displays?

[dreamy rose]

a what?

[still light]

That'll be a decent little rig

[deft vortex]

@still light ill share my screen in dms its hard to explain

[timid meadow]

Today i learned Nerdcore music is a thing and im kinda hooked

Youtube shows me a bunch of weird meme stuff but im listening to the darknet diaries podcast and the ones hes showing off go hard

[neon mesa]

I have two song taste
One that i really like
One that i like but not as much, mostly to hide the one i really like because it's weird

Playlist 1 for when alone in car
Playlist 2 when have passenger

[hard oriole]

anybody else have a tablet just for their cat

[timid meadow]

My cats give 0 fucks about screens or mirrors

[alpine gale]

Nerdcore is one of those genres that goes either way for me. That said, it's so varied there's something for everyone. Watsky is the only artist I know by name, but there are a few punk bands that cross into Nerdcore too.

[neon mesa]

A lot of kids don't even get the luxury of a personal tablet
Let alone spoiling an animal that

[hard oriole]

my cat will sit there for an hour easy

[neon mesa]

And expensive electronic + pet = expensive mistake

[hard oriole]

i use it for work but not that often so

eh it was like $100

[neon mesa]

Because sooner or later they break it

[hard oriole]

its a glorified remote desktop machine otherwise

[timid meadow]

Im so used to downloading videos i forgot how small high quality audio is. Like 100, 30 min to an hour long podcast episodes downloaded and ready in a couple mins

[full fossil]

fun fact: maxing out the settings is absolutely useless just use high man

[low rain]

I’m at the movies taking a shit

[candid galleon]

can someone give me a tech tip

[stray apex]

If you double click the power button on many Android phones, it'll open the camera

[candid galleon]

i use iphone

tell me a windows tech tip

[stray apex]

On windows 11, if you click and drag a window to the top of the display it'll let you snap it into various parts of the screen

[slim yacht]

you can download ram

[still light]

Nerdcore¿

[full fossil]

You can use something else from Windows

[low rain]

Last time I got a virus

[timid meadow]

Shofu pokecypher is the quickest one i can recommend. Listen to that all the time, just didnt know there was a non memey serious whole genre to it

[ebon otter]

for some reason i have like 50 dif photos of linus, ltt merch, pngs, and weird photos of linus??? i dont remeber downloading them??

[timid meadow]

Listening to a killshot nerdcore cover that goes kinda hard rn

[slim yacht]

tech tip after downloading ram: install malwarebytes

[full fossil]

do you have the ltt store app

[ebon otter]

i might???

but this is on my pc

[full fossil]

check their last edit date

[timid meadow]

Theres an app? 👀

[ebon otter]

how

[full fossil]

right click properties

[ebon otter]

on what?

[full fossil]

well there was a old one doesn't exist now.

[full fossil]

the photos, one of them.

[ebon otter]

done. know what

[full fossil]

and compare that to your browser history

[ebon otter]

they wont match

[still light]

Yea I don't listen to rap. I was expecting 8bit stuff but meh

[full fossil]

weird, where did you find these files

[ebon otter]

in my photos

[full fossil]

yeah i dunno, anything in download history?

[ebon otter]

there is non in download history. only in my photos flies

[full fossil]

weird, could be added by onedrive

[ebon otter]

i dont think ive sinded into that.

[full fossil]

go to properties and click on details, see if there's anything interesting there

[ebon otter]

its onedrive ty

but idk how i got them?

[tardy terrace]

very carefully

[ebon otter]

did linus ever make a book?

[tardy terrace]

for babies, yes

[dreamy rose]

ABCs of gaming

[ebon otter]

i have an immage that is a book cover that says prototype

[ebon otter]

not that it looks like a boiogryphe

[full fossil]

can you send those in like #tech-chat-1 all the images

[ebon otter]

yea

[tame mirage]

Just checking in briefly. Is it as big of a shit storm here as it is on Reddit in regards to Emily coming out? (I am fully in support of Emily’s decision)

That’s the place where you get your kicks

Lmao I’m just fucking around

[dreamy rose]

no

[tame mirage]

Good, because it fucking brutal on Reddit…people are fucking dicks

[dreamy rose]

everyone here basically agrees its a net positive

[dreamy rose]

well its reddit. and what's reddit known most for?

[still light]

Imagine getting upset cause someone makes a personal decision that is for them and doesn't affect you at all.

[neon mesa]

This discord's tighter moderation helps keep the dicks in check

[tame mirage]

Thank goodness…

Because the dumbasses I’m arguing with on Reddit right now are VILE…

[still light]

Don't argue with them. They thrive off the negative energy

[neon mesa]

Arguing on reddit is a net negative

[tame mirage]

Really hurts my heart…

[hidden geyser]

I have things to say about those types of people, but it would be breaking a number of rules

[atomic vessel]

i mean the people who don't like it are probably keeping their mouths shut (as they should lol)

[still light]

It's ridiculous that people feel the need to be mean

[tardy terrace]

reddit is something, for sure. I lurk on there for trans subreddits & funny tech stories

[atomic vessel]

it really is one of the websites of all time

[neon mesa]

4chan:

[atomic vessel]

that's just discount hell

[hidden geyser]

Reddit is infamous as a rage farm

[neon mesa]

4chan is one of those websites that can be absolutely beautiful and absolutely horrible at the same time

[still light]

Is 4chan giving a fuck about the news?

[atomic vessel]

you can find the funniest people and the most horrid people at the same time on 4chan, incredible website tbh

[neon mesa]

Idk i don't check it

[subtle lagoon]

people getting angry over emily's coming out are sad, it's like, are they jealous that she's happier with herself, or are they just generally bigoted, or so influenced by news organisations that thrive off hate to stay afloat, or some weird mix of them?

i wish them a very merry introspection

[still light]

4chan probably doesn't give a fuck cause why would it matter

[dreamy rose]

why are you bothering arguing on a platform that's full of the Terminally online, incels and plain self important idiots

[still light]

It's cause being supportive is lame and weak nowadays.

[atomic vessel]

fr man they gotta do something other than getting pissed over someone being happy

[tame mirage]

Fair enough, you’re right…it’s just amazing that these people think they are going to be welcome in this community…

On a completely unrelated note, my sticklocks and screwdriver came today! And my merch message had an interesting answer!

[still light]

How's the screwdriver feel

[dreamy rose]

Stick locks? still have to test them i guess?

[tame mirage]

Screwdriver feels great! Amazing build quality!

[still light]

I'll never order it myself but I'd like to touch it

[tame mirage]

You can come over and touch my screwdriver, sure 😂

[tame mirage]

I tried them out on my steam deck, Xbox controller I use for my PC, and switch, they felt pretty good not gonna lie

[tardy terrace]

I turned my 2nd gen kindle into a glorified music selector

[tame mirage]

The switch did feel a bit finicky, but nothing crazy

[tame mirage]

Wait how did you put an image in your message? This channel won’t let me?

[storm swan]

I just checked out the subreddit, oh my god

[tardy terrace]

I give LMG money

[tame mirage]

Right…?

[broken crown]

In 2005 maybe

[still light]

I refuse to look at the reddit.

[storm swan]

Yeah its just vile

[still light]

In 2005 pretty sure the fbi ran that website.

[tardy terrace]

4chan is basically a honeypot

[broken crown]

I can assure you they did not.

[wispy marsh]

Does it hook up to the home speaker system

[wispy marsh]

And, should I buy the towels?

[still light]

I KNOW they didn't but the shit that was posted was bait af.

[broken crown]

Well yeah, the mods were shit and the community was shittier

[neon mesa]

Reddit is gold for tech solutions
As long as you're not the one asking the questions
Much like stack overflow

[tardy terrace]

Literally all it does is run spotify (not well, half the functions don't work) so I can pick a song and have it play on my desktop that has a better audio solution

Literally just perma-plugged-in at this point. Although i do still have an olddd copy of a free no-ad version of a wifi scanner app that works wonders

[still light]

Blatantly federally illegal shit was allowed to be posted and I blame them for my childhood to be ruined.

[broken crown]

r/cablep... Can't say it but it's good too. Not really tech solutions but noice tidy cables.

[neon mesa]

Sometimes i question if audiophile can actually hear the difference or the fact that they spent $1000 on overkill hardware generates strong placebo

[tardy terrace]

I've considered it, they look really nice

[still light]

They can't.

[atomic vessel]

i really doubt they can

[candid galleon]

e

[broken crown]

Unless it's the actual headphones or DAC, no

[tardy terrace]

For me it's literally 2nd gen kindle fire tablet vs z490 chipset audio, I'm going to take my chipset's audio

[wispy marsh]

I should do that to my ipad when I get a new one

[wispy marsh]

So, between the two of us, who's gonna receive it first to let the other know if it's worth getting?

[tardy terrace]

fuck if I know, I have dinky hours upcoming so I have to be sparse w/ money

[wispy marsh]

[tardy terrace]

I mean, upside we're training up a new employee to take some of the load off, downside is employee training cuts back on my hours

[dreamy rose]

i mean there's a genuine difference between cheap earbuds and a pair of good headphones but using the way expensive idk

[tardy terrace]

(don't be a yes-person at work)

[neon mesa]

I mean obviously going to shit to decent will be noticable

But audiophiles are on the uber expensive range

[still light]

9/10 people have hearing damage. You won't tell the difference. At least nothing that can't be fixed with an EQ

[hard mirage]

It's part real, part wanting to feel a difference. Like wine taster/ sniffers or whatever

[knotty pond]

Hhhh

[hard mirage]

You can tell the difference between wines but the art of like being oddly specific is mostly made up

[knotty pond]

H I

I m b a c k

[mint yarrow]

Just realized I had a "conversation" with Luke in OpenAI server without realizing it a year ago because discords tag system worked really well at making me think he was just another impersonation account.

Now they're getting rid of tags. Lmao.

[hard mirage]

Eh, hearing damage doesn't mean you can't hear the differences between stuff

[hard mirage]

What was the conversation

[full fossil]

actually <t:-999999999999:R>

[hard mirage]

That Sam Altman disagrees with Sam Altman

[mint yarrow]

I just mentioned how ChatGPT would deny its ability to do things more often if it had denied doing something before in chat history, then he replied "I see this often" or something lmfao.

[full fossil]

I was born <t:-999999999999:R>

[hard mirage]

Fun

[still light]

No, perhaps not, but the differences would not be great enough to telk the difference between a 300 dollar headset to a 2k dollar headset.

[mint yarrow]

asked him if he was luke from LTT and he replied "yeah 😛" and I passed it off as "haha funni"

[hard mirage]

Born in the ice storm of 94, the youngest of 3 but with moose that makes 4

[hard mirage]

I mean some people legitimately can

[full fossil]

ok

[hard mirage]

There is a lot of snake oil, but some folks actually have the gusto to tell

There is merits in spending a bit more than 20$ on whatever brand headphones

[still light]

I'd like to see it

[dusty rune]

oh wow

[still light]

I only say it cause as someone with hearing damage and having experienced various cheap to really expensive headphones it's never noticeable enough to warrant the giant price increase

[hard mirage]

https://youtu.be/z5B_HRBDwvg

[knotty pond]

Nvidia mx350

[hard mirage]

If you are responsible you don't have to kill your ears

If you are like wade and take hearing even a bit seriously

[still light]

Assuming

[knotty pond]

Is hp laptop 15 se 3087 good?

Dw 3087

[still light]

What if I told you, my hearing is jacked from hand grenades and machine guns and other explosions from the miltary?

[hard mirage]

No it will kill your children and also light your house and your school/ workplace on fire

[hard mirage]

Oh, that's no fun, sorry about that

I also wasn't being specific to you

[knotty pond]

….Why

[still light]

Nooooo I'm not upset about it I'm just using me as an example of the fact cheap vs expensive doesn't mean you'll 10/10 be able to tell the difference.

[hard mirage]

If your name is Colby and your hearing is jacked, are you Colby jack?

[still light]

Why...... yes....

[hard mirage]

Oh definitely, people chug boxed wine so

[hard oriole]

i for one can't wait for Emily to make their new debut on LTT 💅

[hard mirage]

I say that like I've had much alcohol or even like it in any way

[knotty pond]

Is the mi band 6 nfc a good watch?

[hard mirage]

Will take some time btw, id say at minimum a year (but I could be wrong)

[hard mirage]

Will cause the US to bomb your house

[knotty pond]

I’m in Greece

[hard mirage]

Yes

[knotty pond]

MR BOMBASTIC BOMBA FANTASTIC

[hard mirage]

Sure but you can get better sound

[knotty pond]

Should I get a mi band 8

[hard mirage]

Yea that's cool

Cuz you don't prioritize quality

I mean sure, but if you ever a better pair you would probably be able to notice something

I'm not even remotely suggesting you do

I'm just saying that there are merits to higher fidelity products

[wispy marsh]

Holy crap @tardy terrace

Asia shipping is no joke

[hard mirage]

People might hear a better more balanced driver and either not care or dislike it because they like house sound

It's fine

[knotty pond]

Mi band zuzuzuz mi band Apple Watch miam miam miam mi baaaand zuzuzuzuz

[hard oriole]

for sure

im just glad that they felt comfortable to come out and cant wait for their return ❤️

and im glad LTT is out there to support them

[hard mirage]

Totally, still sucks to see the stupidity some people think

[hard oriole]

for sure

i spent 20 minutes in the comments of their video downvoting and reporting really bad comments

some were literally suggesting disgusting things its so bad

literally one event from some of these commenters going to domestic terrorism kinda bad

its so sad to see people so angry about something they just dont understand

[still light]

She was my favorite LTT crew member before, she still will be.

[main stag]

Really hope LTT mentions in next weeks WAN show, or make a vid on it, the recent Emby drama. A unpatched known vulnerability (reported 3yrs ago) they failed to patch, actively exploited, and they Emby devs, tell no one, just push a server update, to disable/shut off users servers as their notice of the issue. Many users still unaware of the issue, as the company has not, and will not send out a notice to users, just expect them to go to their support forms and see the posts.

I recall Linus was looking at using Emby instead of Plex....

[silver ember]

Shit there's emby drama? Does this include jellyfin? Just set that up during the last couple days

[main stag]

https://emby.media/support/articles/advisory-23-05.html

https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/118805-has-my-windows-emby-server-been-hacked/

Their response so far
https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/118955-full-disclosure-data-collection-in-the-process-of-botnet-takedown/

[full fossil]

Emily the 🐐

[main stag]

and the exploit vector from 2020
https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/82175-wan-access-treated-like-lan-when-x-forwarded-for-header-is-set-allowing-login-wo-password/

[silver ember]

Well this doesn't seem good for emby users but I think I should be fine for this one

[main stag]

jellyfin a fork of Emby, last i read. much same code.

[silver ember]

Honestly every week it's a new service that's been compromised

[atomic vessel]

holy shit man this sounds absolutely catastrophic

[main stag]

and as long as you dont have the server set to no login for local lan, and no admin pass accounts. should be ok. but....yea it bad

there users reporting they had their server secured, and still got hacked

[silver ember]

I only have my jellyfin exposed to the internet via a cloudflare tunnel and it's only been up for a day or two. I'll take it offline for now watch this play out

[timid meadow]

Looks like a shitshow

[main stag]

i am user jl5437 on their forms. i have not been on their forms for years, and my original account got deactivated for non use. I have been a Emby user since the days it was Media Browser. It was my Windows Media Center replacement. Was very active on their forms, Feedback, reporting bugs testing etc. I got Lifetime membership back when it was super cheap.

[outer siren]

I screwed up.

I put my #1027757333117415424 thread in the wrong category.

[still light]

Welcome to the club

[outer siren]

It's software and hardware, I only marked it as hardware.

[timid meadow]

A new wave of people to be disappointed by plex but we dont really have much for other options kek

[still light]

You gonna get banned for that

[silver ember]

Me everyday

[outer siren]

What?!

How do I fix it?!

[main stag]

I recenlty moved to Plex, which has a much better 2FA setup and i just like it better. Though, i use Infuse as the player on my Apple Tv.

[outer siren]

I'm sorry! I didn't know it was against the rules! @_@

[still light]

Im playing girlfriend you're fine. Someone might just ask a few more questions

[outer siren]

Okay. Thanks. Sorry.

[silver ember]

Is Plex still offering a lifetime pass or is it all subscription model based now?

[stray apex]

Hopefully that nas software Linus is investing in supports media server stuff at some point

[still light]

Plex is ass tbh

Like for local network stuff it's fine

[outer siren]

It's fine for what I use it for.

[ancient crystal]

I don't think I've ever reported so many comments

[outer siren]

Oh. I stream from a cloud server I have at someone's house.

[still light]

Is it local?

[outer siren]

Nope. And all legit, personal rips of the DVDs and BDs I own.

[silver ember]

Respect

[still light]

You don't have to lie to us. It's OK.

[main stag]

i have lifetime.

[silver ember]

I would never have the patience to rip DVDs

[timid meadow]

Im on monthly for plex but they have lifetime available

[silver ember]

I already don't have the patiences to wait for my torrents to download

[timid meadow]

The real play is to rip the dvd for the menu games and special features, then just download a good copy of the movie instead of diying a copy

[silver ember]

The menu is the best part of the movie

[main stag]

most take under a min, if high seeds and u have fast internet. i have 1gig connection

a 50gb BD 4K rip...maybe 2min?

lol

[neon mesa]

torrents more heavily depend on seeder quality and count
you can't download gigabit on dead torrent with 1 seeder that relies on DSL

[timid meadow]

I thought gigabit was gunna make everything zoomy, now i babyrage at others for having slow upload

[neon mesa]

popular torrents are like 100Mbps on a good day

[main stag]

but i do prefer to make my own rips and encodes. my settings, my tweaks in handbrake. higher quality than most torr rips i find

[neon mesa]

and the average torrent magnet can't even do 50Mbps

[main stag]

must be your settings or shit tor clinet. i only use mag links and can max out my connection at ~100MB's

[neon mesa]

i'll give you one of my magnets and you try to do the same

[main stag]

if low seeds or the seeds are upload speed capped, or site u use is limiting your speed due to low share ratio, u get slow speeds. or isp related

[neon mesa]

well exactly as i said, seeder dependant

and most torrents lack enough seeder to saturate gigabit

[twin stratus]

I just realized Twitter has added verified since dates. Elon Musk decided to be "funny" by setting it to 3000 BC

[timid meadow]

Theres gotta be somewhere that gets broken by a date like that. Find it and crash twitter ahaha

[main stag]

there some that take weeks, months to fully get. older ones. rips of things that i can not find a physical copy of.

[twin stratus]

No seriously, go to @ elon musk on twitter and click on the checkmark

[neon mesa]

those dates does not rely on any timestamps and merely plain text most likely
can't break anything

[twin stratus]

I've also noticed to the people who coughed up $8/mo and have a legacy verified account the date extended. Example: Verified since 2014

[neon mesa]

and we solved Y2K kind of problem 2 decades ago

[lunar anchor]

i left plex after they leaked my password the second time

[dreamy rose]

Wireless Communications huh. wonder where i seen those in a handheld before

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS#/media/File:Nintendo-DS-Fat-Blue.jpg

[regal bough]

unity engine > unreal

[dreamy rose]

what garbage. sure its not the best console but at least it sold as one

and its the second best selling console ever

frickin PS2. glorified DVD player

[bitter girder]

I like the MSI dragon

[dreamy rose]

lucky is kind of cool.

tho i like Konqi better

[neon mesa]

Lmao cashed in on my bing rewards
Just got bunch of pocky and coffee for the week

All for free

[dreamy rose]

nice, sucks they dont have options for steam cards though.

[strong kettle]

same

[neon mesa]

I would prefer real money but eh free is free

[dreamy rose]

a lot more people would use it if they did.

[neon mesa]

They offer retail gift card so that works

Grind hard enough you can get an xbox

Not through the sweepstakes

Like some people gather enough point to pay in full an entire xbox using ms gift card

[dreamy rose]

if you could run linux on them, it'd be free PC Upgrades

[bitter girder]

If we're talking about brands who have cute mascots obviously the only one I can think of rn is Lucky

[dreamy rose]

you probably haven seen Konqi before. wouldn't blame you if you haven't, open source stuff isn't massive in the public eye let alone some of the mascots. but EVERYONE at least knows of Tux

[dreamy rose]

Storje

[hard oriole]

i recently got unlimited data at no additional cost so....

[neon mesa]

Inb4 someone say samsung

[dreamy rose]

i'll be honest with you lot. Humans arent cute.

[neon mesa]

Fur- .. ;-;

[hard oriole]

like 700gb of switch games, many TB of movies and TV, etc lol

[dreamy rose]

probably only like 30 games there or smth

[hard oriole]

how do i store it? or how do i get it?

[neon mesa]

"i got 700GB of games"
"Wow that's a lot"
"They're all CoDs"
"Oh so 3 games"

[hard oriole]

a lot of it is actually from my stepdad moving his DVD and CD collections into CD books lol

we ripped them all in a DVD tower rig while we got rid of the cases

[dreamy rose]

ya ever looked at an Animal?

[hard oriole]

17tb on my server plus like 13tb on my main rig

700gb is just switch games lol

which, true, is like, 20-30 games or something lol

does anyone need their entire steam library?

my console is modded they didn't cost anything lmao

[tardy terrace]

[hard oriole]

i kept them on my array just to avoid the data caps

redownload GTA V? no thanks

i only recently got the unlimited

[hard oriole]

before i was torrenting rather strategically lol

[tardy terrace]

i basically hoard my entire library locally

[hard oriole]

my games folder includes all my steam games and roms

so its still calculating lmao

[dreamy rose]

i have fuck all games in my library and like less than half of them Downloaded yet mine already take up 244GB

[hard oriole]

2tb and counting

[dreamy rose]

23 out of 65

[tardy terrace]

2.146tb of games locally

prepped4life

[hard oriole]

as long as i have power i have entertainment for WEEKS

[tardy terrace]

oh wait half my games require online drm

[dreamy rose]

GTA 4 is a Fucking mess

[hard oriole]

3.6TB of games alone on one drive

NEARLY AS MANY SWITCH GAMES AS STEAM GAMES IN STORAGE

some of that data is just a NAND backup of my switch so

[dreamy rose]

always backup your nand reularly

[hard oriole]

my switch is more often an android tablet unless im on a trip

makes for a great in home streaming device

playing PC games via Moonlight

[neon mesa]

bf needs a new PC at roughly $2k
with current GPU generation being shit i'm uncertain on what to pick for
he's not comfortable buying used so a 4080 with 5800x3D and 32GB 3200 CL16 is what pick
could be better, but i will need some input
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3LZXTn

[lucid echo]

seems good to me

[neon mesa]

maybe save money here and there
no i'm not going to an XTX as the price difference is only $100 before someone say it

not worth the 100w extra power usage

[manic torrent]

What resolution is he gaming at?

[scenic haven]

i see nothing wrong with this

[neon mesa]

he got two 1440p144hz

[lucid echo]

you could prob snag a cheaper case, O11 is higher end

[manic torrent]

5800X3D may not give you much benefit, 5700x is way cheaper

[neon mesa]

oh i pick the O11 personally because it looks gud

[lucid echo]

i was about to say

[manic torrent]

Exactly.

[lucid echo]

it’s really aesthetic at that point

[scenic haven]

maybe change the ssd? i haven't heard much good about wd ssds

but i have no personal problems with them

[neon mesa]

i'll my bf later also in term of aesthetic because my priorities are wack

expensive case with budget ass cooler
it's a good cooler, but it's an $2k pc

[scenic haven]

can you go above the budget?

[neon mesa]

i really use the "an" there because i spell the $ as S
and not above budget by a lot

[lucid echo]

i would allocate more budget to the ram, personally

[neon mesa]

i figure it will futureproof better considering it fights 13900k and 7950x
futureproofing is dumb but it's AM4 might as well get the best

[scenic haven]

Thermalite peerless assasian is amazing and is only like 40 dollars more

[neon mesa]

i did pick the PA

[lucid echo]

70 bucks for 32gb 3.6k is kinda sus

but it’d prob be fine

[neon mesa]

oh it's PNY, they're good

[scenic haven]

what is your bf doing on the pc

[neon mesa]

i use one myself

[neon mesa]

gaming and video editing + recording

[lucid echo]

yeah i know zero things about pny ram that just seems way too cheap

[pliant sphinx]

5800X3D fights the 12900K-12900KS

[scenic haven]

fair enough

i was gunna say if he's just gaming and web sutfing just stick to 16gb

[neon mesa]

the 5800X3D still trade blows even with the 13900k and 7950x

not always win, but sometimes win and that's pretty good

[pliant sphinx]

No, that is the territory of the 7800X3D

[lucid echo]

intel quietly hiding the 5800x3d in their 13th gen benchmarks lmao

[scenic haven]

its gunna be a pretty warm pc

are you going to add extra fans or no?

[neon mesa]

just one of the graphs

overall

it's reallly close to the 13900k

[lucid echo]

5800x3d do be solid

[neon mesa]

and 5800x3D is much cheaper than going AM5 and getting 7800x3D

[spiral summit]

Just get a Noctua nh-d15

[neon mesa]

overpriced AND ugly

[scenic haven]

blud thats like hunge

[pliant sphinx]

Look at this for example

[spiral summit]

I mean

[pliant sphinx]

Look at TPU

[lucid echo]

look at this phonograph

[spiral summit]

It's good

[vapid smelt]

$45 dollar coolers beat it in cooling and noise

[spiral summit]

Damn...

[vapid smelt]

Nhd15 is $90-115

[lucid echo]

it’s not not good, it’s just unnecessary

[spiral summit]

Which ones

[lucid echo]

Quite a few these days

[neon mesa]

right, i guess that config is perfect then

[vapid smelt]

https://youtu.be/Mm4hyIHe1PM

[spiral summit]

Thanks

[neon mesa]

can save a lot more buying used GPUs but my bf don't want to eh can't change his mind
the 4080 has dropped like $130 in price so it's not as bad i guess

[vapid smelt]

https://youtu.be/UGM6FcLDckk $60 that beats the nhd15 in cooling and noise

[scenic haven]

thats legit what im saying

[slim creek]

bro mr beast is ruthless he cut out chris from his new video

[scenic haven]

why dont get a 3090 or something old gen. there is really no difference

[pliant sphinx]

There is about 50-60 FPS difference in Cyberpunk on 1080p
Same with Doom Eternal, Elden Ring, Far Cry 6 and Spider-Man Remastered

The 5800X3D doesn't match it's AM5 counterpart. It won even the relative performance test, where the 5800X3D is on a level of a Ryzen 5 7600.

[lucid echo]

They’re not playing 1080p

[slim creek]

is far cry 6 still big?

[graceful burrow]

Was far cry 6 ever big

[neon mesa]

it's a tough choice for him.
hope all get resolved and hope every decision is the best for the channel's future

[lucid echo]

The CPU performance gap isn’t as big at 1440p

[slim creek]

yeah when it launched

[graceful burrow]

How many of the same game can ubisoft make before people take notice

[slim creek]

mr beast is doing his best to avoid the situation

[lucid echo]

i think people have noticed

[scenic haven]

its such dumb drama though

[vapid smelt]

When was Mr beast ltt related

[pliant sphinx]

On hardware, yeah it's kind of demanding on Ultra on the GPU.

[graceful burrow]

Have they?
Why are people buying them?

[neon mesa]

where is your source...
saying it's equivalent to 7600 is straight up idiotic

[scenic haven]

idk dawg

[graceful burrow]

Epic reply gj

[pliant sphinx]

TechPowerUp :)

[neon mesa]

how about actually sending the graph here
oh and 1440p ones

[slim yacht]

the reason why people still go 5800x3D is its actually cheaper + board. and correction, more like matching 7600X

[lucid echo]

‘Ubisoft making the same game’ has been a meme for a hot minute.
People buy all kinds of things.

[neon mesa]

and don't look at nominal numbers
i.e. 60 fps difference say in CS:GO is not the same as 60 fps difference in RDR2

[graceful burrow]

Catch me buying a 5800x3d because I already have a solid am4 system

[neon mesa]

yeah idk who to trust since GN and LTT both show graphs where the 5800X3D is close to 13900k

[slim creek]

jump from 13600k and above is not that much

[lucid echo]

but but but that’s a whole 17fps difference!!

[pliant sphinx]

CPUs are tested on 1080p. That's where you test their power, on 1440p you become mostly GPU bound.

[neon mesa]

though with this i feel like it's a GPU bottleneck
because that's like a whole 5% difference

[graceful burrow]

Amd could barely top it themselves I remember when 7000 series cpus came out
What a beast

[vapid smelt]

Depends on the game, if it doesn't like the extra cache it performs like a 5700x

[neon mesa]

we have seen scenarios where this is becoming untrue especially with X3D chips unique behavior

i will need to find the video for that again

[distant wren]

https://youtu.be/Mm4hyIHe1PM Peerless Assasin cheaper by 19$ bucks? 😄

[vapid smelt]

1080p

[hard oriole]

Yeah

[pliant sphinx]

Does it change anything? You are still GPU bound in most 1440p games.

[neon mesa]

it's a 4080

and the graphs are so flat on graphs shown by @vapid smelt the difference is basically null

like why waste extra 300 going to a 7800x3D for 20FPS when you're already playing at above the 144 monitor refresh

[pliant sphinx]

It's worth it on 1080p

[neon mesa]

and well this was about my PC config i'm about to build if you scroll up more

and it's on 1440p144

[slim yacht]

most 1080p monitors are sold at 165hz anyway except if youre one of those who buys 360hz 1080p monitor.

[neon mesa]

and don't tell me 20FPS is worth extra $300 when the numbers are already above 160 @pliant sphinx

[pliant sphinx]

You pay for a new platform, man. AM4 is dead, while on AM5 you will have next-gen supported for sure and most likely next-next gen CPUs too.

[neon mesa]

i'm paying for now
not beta testing AM5 and paying for promises

[pliant sphinx]

5800X3D is a decent upgrade if you already have an AM4 CPU like the 5600.

[slim yacht]

whatchu mean am4 is dead bro just got gen 4 upgrade recently. its gonna last much longer lmao

[graceful burrow]

They mean it's a dead platform
No new cpus are coming out on it

[neon mesa]

AMD promised to continue TRX4 on threadripped 3000 and guess what they abandoned that socket

[vapid smelt]

I'd rather buy a 1440p/4k monitor then upgrade my 5600x to a 5800x3d

[pliant sphinx]

And AM4?

[neon mesa]

AM4 already fulfilled its duty

[slim yacht]

in terms of that, yes. dead as in nobody is gonna buy it tho, not so much.

[neon mesa]

Am5 longevity is still just a promise
we're not even in ryzen 8000 yet

[graceful burrow]

It's a good thing that's not what they meant then huh

[dreamy rose]

AM4 is dead in the sense nothing is releasing on it but its hardly Irrelevant.

[neon mesa]

let me change the pcpp config to AM5 and it will be much pricier

[slim yacht]

maybe it is what he meant, idk. but the relevance of am4 is still there

[graceful burrow]

@pliant sphinx by calling am4 a dead platform did you mean it as in nothing new is coming out on it?

[lucid echo]

uh no, i’m watching it now, chris is in it

[pliant sphinx]

Yeah, but it will fade away as years go. That's my point, while AM5 will have new CPUs.

[granite tinsel]

i mean officially speaking it has been succeeded by AM5 but we're still in that transitional phase

[pliant sphinx]

Ye.

[graceful burrow]

That settles that

[dreamy rose]

hate me for it or whatever but idc, i don't watch Mr Beast.

[slim creek]

yeah but when he talks it gets cut out before he says something

[pliant sphinx]

Of course, it's just the first gen, so people who have 5000/3000 series (like me) can be just comfortable now. But, we have to live with the fact that AM4 won't get new stuff.

[slim creek]

okay?

[neon mesa]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L94ZsL
that's an entire $200 just for like 15 average extra FPS when already running at above 150 fps💀

[dreamy rose]

Mr Beast isnt the type of content i like to watch. and i hardly see him cutting Chris out of videos regardless if he looses any kind of viewership.

[pliant sphinx]

Okay, but like, my whole point was made on 1080p?

[slim yacht]

if am5 chip can somehow be cheaper + not hot in their next 8000 line, maybe i'd get it lol. as of right now the thermals is a mess

[granite tinsel]

literally got up to defend chris after sunnyv2's video

[neon mesa]

and your point is pointless since the convo was about a build i'm configuring

[pliant sphinx]

You were just saying the past X3D "trades blows" with the new one.

It doesn't.

[lucid echo]

no, he doesn’t
the videos are just fast paced

[neon mesa]

actually it does

[dreamy rose]

again hate me for not watching Mr Beast if you roll that way. i don't care about shit like that. i watch my stuff.

[graceful burrow]

I joined in the middle of this convo is this the whole argument

[pliant sphinx]

Okay, my point was made.
I have nothing to add now.

[slim creek]

shoutout to the 1 guy on this planet who just switched from console to pc and locked his 4090s fps to 30

[neon mesa]

just because it shows "lower" in a graph doesn't mean it doesn't
it's within 5-10% of the 13900k
that is trading blows

like being the last on a 10 item list doesn't matter when the graph looks like a square a.k.a flat

[pliant sphinx]

Btw Aldonist, when do you plan uprading (if ever)?

[slim yacht]

well he can run about everything now

[slim creek]

any game any settings hes living life good

[pliant sphinx]

I'd like to hear how fellow 5600 and 5600X owner see the situation

[slim creek]

the core 2 duo:

[graceful burrow]

I have no current plans to upgrade the cpu, the 5600 does all I need it to for now

No game is strugglin with the 5600 rn

[slim creek]

whats the last good 2 core cpu?

[neon mesa]

i do need to upgrade TO a 5600 since my current cpu is a 2200G

[vapid smelt]

With a 4080 no one would be playing at 1080p too so it's extra pointless

[neon mesa]

exactly, he's going to use it at 1440p144

[slim creek]

depends on the gpu

[neon mesa]

i got a 3060 12GB already

[dreamy rose]

you should be asking me with my Dual Core 2nd gen i5 laptop CPU and Fermi laptop GPU lol

[slim creek]

3600x or 5600x

[neon mesa]

5600 non x

[slim creek]

yes anyway

[pliant sphinx]

👍

I'm planning on replacing my old 1080 Ti. Same with my 5600X, however, I was thinking on buying 8000 Series 8-core (so something like 8700X) when it releases.
But now, the GPU is more important for me.

[neon mesa]

the 5600x, you're paying for the X without any performance difference

[vapid smelt]

13600k / 7600 if you want the best or a killer value 5700x

[graceful burrow]

I've got a 1080 non ti
It's gettin there
Faster than I wish it was

[tired glade]

8700x will be 12 cores

[slim creek]

lock fps to 30 get used to it until then

[slim yacht]

#doubt

[neon mesa]

really? thank god we're not stuck in another 4 core era but with 16 cores

we've been stuck with 16 cores since Zen 2

[tired glade]

We will see