public-chat

[full fossil]

no it can run on a potato

[solid oxide]

but dual cores aren’t the best when it comes to running Java

[small zephyr]

since you can play it on phones the servers there are even more p2w as normal java servers

[rigid tide]

i use my roku tv i forgot the hz ‼️🔥

[full fossil]

tv gang

i have a 32 inch tv as my secondary monitor

[small zephyr]

and some minecraft server are fucking disgusting in terms of p2w rather pay to play in some instances where core mechanics are locked behind paywalls

[solid oxide]

But those are those servers

Theres like 2000 other servers you could play

[small zephyr]

i bet theres as many minceraft servers as there are world seeds

[rigid tide]

i put whole ass music videos as my wallpaper cause it’s comedy to me (my comedy sucks)

[solid oxide]

Theres more Minecraft seeds

aren’t there like 18 billion Minecraft seeds?

[scenic epoch]

who ping

[solid oxide]

obama

[small zephyr]

i know its a joke considering like everyone who owns minecraft java at least had a own servers once

[full fossil]

true

[solid oxide]

I’ve never owned a server

[full fossil]

i run a server

[full fossil]

thats how much your mom weighs

[small zephyr]

even i owned one back in school it was an cracked one tho since my mom had no paypal and no credit card and at that time you could only use either paypal or credit cards to buy it

[solid oxide]

I haven’t seen my mom in awhile and I wouldn’t be surprised

[atomic vessel]

i moved away so idk
but they should still have them

[small zephyr]

kinda fucked up to be true a game designed for kids can only be brought by credit card or paypal

[solid oxide]

Thats cool

[full fossil]

i used to use a cracked version of minecraft

tlauncher

[solid oxide]

I used Pocket Edition Lite

[small zephyr]

i dunno when i was 18 and finaly could open an paypal account i brought it

[solid oxide]

I just played the demo mode

anybody even remember that?

[small zephyr]

nah you dont play minecraft for singlepalyer you play it for servers

welp or you are an true minecraft nerd and do speedruns

[solid oxide]

Single player is kinda boring

[timid meadow]

I play for the modded vr

[solid oxide]

I started playing Minecraft around 1.3

[small zephyr]

i played it to have fun with friends

[solid oxide]

15fps ftw

[timid meadow]

Rip console edition

[solid oxide]

I meant java but I miss console

[rigid tide]

fighting the urge to fully customize my pc (and paint it! like actual PAINT! not spraypaint) after a silly ghost and pals song im hyperfixated on ‼️‼️🔥🔥

[solid oxide]

I could spend days playing

and thats what I did in 2014

[small zephyr]

if it wasnt that expensive i send it to or get equipment to powder coat an custom case

[rigid tide]

running as fast as I can

[small zephyr]

however powder coating an case that costs 50bucks for 300bucks is not realy itelligent

[solid oxide]

should I do it to my corsair 4000D?

[small zephyr]

🤔 welp when i buy the 4000 or 5000 from corsair im gotta find some hobbiest over facebook or something locally in hopes to find someone who would let me use his booth for cheap

[rigid tide]

awh damn it ill just paint it myself

[rigid tide]

especially since im an ARTIST!!

[small zephyr]

cuz im all about that pink stuff, and spraypaint or normal paint just looks bad

[solid oxide]

you are indeed an ARTIST!!

[small zephyr]

always got bad surface finish and splitters off easily

[rigid tide]

ME: (an artist) ABOUT to paint moths and spiderwebs on my parts and case cause I felt silly

[graceful burrow]

Based artist

[solid oxide]

No my comment got deleted

[full fossil]

TeamLTT continues to perform admirably in the BOINC pentathlon, currently we are sitting in 5th rank but it is not a safe 5th.

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You may not be aware that LTT are competing on a multi-team basis, there are 30 teams in the competition and we are currently in 5th, but we could be doing better. And that's where you guys come in, we need more GPUs for PrimeGrid and more CPUs for yoyo@home. This would mean the more experienced member of the team can be more dynamic in helping to combat threats as they come up.

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[solid oxide]

You serious?

Time to buy a 5900X

[small zephyr]

i used to works as professional painter, so my eyes are quite senstive to even the smallest bad spots im super picky about painting hardware if it doesnt even look great on doors most of the times

[solid oxide]

does the 5950X have more cores than the 5900X?

Or is it just another clock speed bump?

[unkempt widget]

yes

[solid oxide]

I assume its 16

[unkempt widget]

you assume correctly

[solid oxide]

I wonder if it’s possible to make a 13 core processor without disabling any cores

[small zephyr]

fuck ryzen 9 even ryzen 5 is enough in most real world usage

[full fossil]

There used to be tri core processors

[solid oxide]

I know

you used to be able to unlock the 4th core on some models

[small zephyr]

save the money on the r9 and get a better gpu instead

[rigid tide]

last night i had a dream where i got on rog rig reboot and kept on referencing hyperdontia by ghost and pals and creep-p

[solid oxide]

6900XT and a Pentium 3, thoughts?

[full fossil]

You can make as many or few processors as you want if you are a designer, but there are advantages for the architecture to have the counts we see

[small zephyr]

i didnt meant to save that much xD just an ryzen 5 or 7 if you need the 2 extra cores is more that enough

[full fossil]

for gaming yes, thats true, for other things less so

[solid oxide]

Ryzen 7 would be enough for me buying more cores would just be a waste of money

[small zephyr]

i dunno even for video editing etc if you dont make 10 videos a day it doesnt matter if it takes 70 seconds or 90seconds to render

welp its a and example tho

[solid oxide]

I sometimes video edit

[small zephyr]

theres no real world ussage that needs an ryzen 9 or an i9 to be true

[solid oxide]

Gaming

Gaming uses 12 cores

Discord, the game, and 75 chrome tabs

[small zephyr]

i have an older ryzen 1600af and its just fine

[solid oxide]

I have a mobile ryzen

[small zephyr]

i gotta replace it to an 5700x soon tho not because i need but because i want it xD

[solid oxide]

editing on the 5600h is awful on premiere

[small zephyr]

🤨 at least the tdp of 65watts on my ryzen 5 is so low that i can use garbage 20bucks for 5 fans rgb fans

even on the radiator i use em and i know the static pressure of em sucks

[solid oxide]

the 1600af sucks?

[crystal flare]

hello Guys and Gals

[small zephyr]

its kinda welp its okay but i know that it bottlenecks my 6650xt for sure

[solid oxide]

I’m contemplating on getting a 5900X

[crystal flare]

i got a webcam and microphone

[small zephyr]

3,7ghz is just to slow for more recent games

[solid oxide]

I should just stick with the 5700X

[small zephyr]

the 5700x or the was it the 5700x3d?

[solid oxide]

5700X

[small zephyr]

or was it 5800x3d?

[solid oxide]

5700X

[small zephyr]

both of em are fine, i would still avoid am5 for like 2-3 gens

[crystal flare]

i absolutely loathe the fact that so many games want to look like a hollywood production. and i wish game graphics could take several steps back.

[solid oxide]

I was going to go for AM5 but I already have 32gb of ram in my broken intel mobo

I could use

[small zephyr]

considering that like there wasnt an am5 cpu that basicly wasnt self destructive do to bad drivers and bios's

[crystal flare]

1. because then poor people could actually play/run the games, 2. the games could be more affordable.

[solid oxide]

Has radeon gpu drivers gotten better?

[full fossil]

I'm getting a 3950x and a E5-2696 V4 soon, can't wait

[small zephyr]

liek if you are a hardware noob and dont update your bios and enable expo you can fuck your system

[small zephyr]

kinda and kinda not

[solid oxide]

I have radeon integrated graphics

[crystal flare]

damn that felt good to vent.

[solid oxide]

It’s radeon tbh

[small zephyr]

sometimes everything on my screen freezes with the exeption of the mouse cursor somehow

[solid oxide]

I hope my RX 570 doesn’t do that when I put it in my new system while I wait for the gpu

[crystal flare]

i hope to get a rx 580 soon

[small zephyr]

nah the 570 wont do it

the 5000-7000 series may experience it

[solid oxide]

I had a terrible first impression when I got the RX 570 due to drivers

[small zephyr]

as far as i know they are good now, even 5000series is somewhat bearable but anoying af sometimes

[crystal flare]

idk i've seen rx580's do pretty good with most triple A titles

[solid oxide]

Thats good

[small zephyr]

like i dunno if it was the drivers or just windows but opening the webcam app for example literally made the drivers self destruct when opening with my 5500XT

[solid oxide]

The encoder still sucks on the 570

[small zephyr]

welp that cards is prob soon 10years old

okay only 6 years but yeah it shows its aging

[solid oxide]

yeah

but it can still play Minecraft with is basically all I play

sometimes steam games.

[small zephyr]

🤔 i bet it will struggle with games like Hogwarts legacy tho

at lest if you want at least medium settings with decent frame rates

[solid oxide]

I got like 70 fps in pubg when I first got it

but that was when I first got it

[small zephyr]

welp in my opinion pupg looks like shit

[solid oxide]

Even with high settings it still does

[small zephyr]

and they most recent spawnoff on phones aint make no fucking sense in terms of naming

[solid oxide]

GTA V ran like GTA V

[winged yarrow]

I had a standard hard drive when I first got pubg so all the buildings would take like 5 minutes loading in, once I landed I'd go prone in what I could only hope was a safe area and I'd watch all the players run around in the invisible buildings

[small zephyr]

since its Players unkown battleground battlegrounds

[winged yarrow]

It was great

[small zephyr]

like seriously PUPG battlegrounds? what did they smoke to green light that naming

[solid oxide]

I had a kingston nv1 ssd and it was pretty fast at loading

I’m planning on getting a samsung 980 ssd 1Tb

[winged yarrow]

It's named after the creator, who also created the original battle royale mod for arma

[small zephyr]

pupg means literally players unknown battleground

so adding battlegrounds to it makes no sense since its already the bloody title

[solid oxide]

True

[winged yarrow]

Yeah, do they call it PUBG Battlegrounds or is it PlayersUnknown Battlegrounds and then other people call it PUBG Battlegrounds?

Oh nah you're right they dumb

It's okay though, it's past its prime now

[small zephyr]

sometimes game naming makes no sense

[solid oxide]

True

[winged yarrow]

Fortnite took over. PUBG's golden days are now copper.

[small zephyr]

like assasins creed 4 black flag should just be called black flag since its literally the prequell to the ac3 story line

like you play the grandfather of the protagonist of ac 3

[winged yarrow]

Is it a prequel to the storyline on the abstergo side tho

[small zephyr]

welp at least its not realy an sequel maybe a little bit on the real world story line that got thrown away since desmond was gone

but since desmond is gone all real worlds storys in the games kinda suck

welp at least they stopped numbering the assasins creeds after 4

[wind pulsar]

@plush rivet Why are you not subbed yet, what a disappointment!

[winged yarrow]

Agreed. The abstergo storyline overcomplicated the story of assassin's creed imo.

[unkempt widget]

am about to cry because of physics

[plush rivet]

Zelda comes out this Friday

[wind pulsar]

Tell me your account details, I'll gladly play it as well

[unkempt widget]

damn botw2 is already coming out, time flies by

[wind pulsar]

I still haven't ordered totk lol

[unkempt widget]

i don't even have a switch near me lol

[plush rivet]

Get ya own copy

Ik damn well you can afford it

[unkempt widget]

on other news, i'm no longer 15

[wind pulsar]

Booo, abandones FFXIV, then my spreadsheet and now myself, tsk tsk tsk

[plush rivet]

Happy b day

[wind pulsar]

Happy birthday!

[unkempt widget]

well it was yesterday but thanks

[plush rivet]

look, spreadsheet is NOT gone I promise

it’s just off season

[wind pulsar]

Look

I'm fine with it being abandonded
It just has to be finished

Because we have more than enough cases that we can just stop with it after it's done

[plush rivet]

Lol fine I need to do the measurements

that’s pretty much 90% of it

[unkempt widget]

also i spilt ink on my airpod case and it kinda looks cool

[wind pulsar]

The main problem are the radiator dropdowns

Those need to be fixed, then I'm already happy
(Visitors can't see the dropdown)

[wind pulsar]

It does, wth

[wind pulsar]

Kinda looks like a darker jade gem

[unkempt widget]

it's like a video game skin

[small zephyr]

its already outthere

release date -10days or something

xD

[plush rivet]

officially

idc about the leaks I haven’t seen a single one yet and I plan to keep it that way

[small zephyr]

🤷‍♂️ welp its kinda offcial as soon they send all the reviewser and streamer etc copys in my opinion

[plush rivet]

not really

the game currently is NOT officially released to the public

[small zephyr]

like all that reviewing companys prob play em days to weeks before the games release so they can publish reviews day one

[full fossil]

[small zephyr]

yeah nintendo fucked up on that part

[plush rivet]

well yeah that’s the point

[small zephyr]

however i bet they send out some review/influencer copys already anyways

[plush rivet]

I’ve been avoiding spoilers this whole time
I want to go fully blind

Only thing I’ve watched was the story recap that’s it

[misty scarab]

Today i learned my thinkpad can charge by usb C aswell, not just the thunderbolt port

[small zephyr]

my thinkpad is so old its usb are usb 1.0

[mild elm]

Big improvement

[misty scarab]

mine is old but it still has SS usb

[mild elm]

SS?

[misty scarab]

super speed

[small zephyr]

but somehow an cpu from like 2007 is good enough to run windows 10 32bit

[misty scarab]

i have a Core i5 6300u or whatever in it

16gb ram and a 512gb ssd

[small zephyr]

mine is intel core due t2400 or something around that

[polar fern]

Sounds like a laptop

[misty scarab]

Running

[small zephyr]

its got a whole whopping 4gb of ram installed of which i can use a whole lot of 3gb since the chipset doesnt support more even if you change the cpu to an 64bit one

[polar fern]

Eek

[small zephyr]

of course its a laptop? if it wasnt it would be an thinkcentre instead of an thinkpad

[misty scarab]

mine still has the red nip in the middle of the kb

[timid meadow]

Love the lenovo nub

[small zephyr]

mine is still with the IBM logo

[polar fern]

Was referring to 6300u

[small zephyr]

and its got the square 4:3 screen

[misty scarab]

yeah i said its my thinkpad

6300u, 16gb ram, 512gb ssd

[polar fern]

I didn’t read that part m8

[wind pulsar]

It's not out yet, no matter how much you twist it.
Do they deserve that leak? 100%

I laugh every time in schadensfreude when I get the news that their main release has been leaked again

[misty scarab]

16gb ram availiable, only using 2 on idle

[small zephyr]

its kinda nice seing nintendo being fucked up instead of em fucking up their fans for being fans

[misty scarab]

if this was running windows it would be using like 15 on idle

[polar fern]

15?

[misty scarab]

my gaming pc has 64gb ram on windows and it uses like 16 on idle

[wind pulsar]

Their last like four main releases got leaked weeks ahead of release and I will laugh every single time

[small zephyr]

we only say schadenfreude without the s

[wind pulsar]

Yeah, if you give it a higher threshold, it's gonna pull more

[polar fern]

My thinkcentre uses like 3-4 gigs ram at idle. Win 10 pro

[wind pulsar]

Cool ig? You still spell it schadenfreude lol

[misty scarab]

still windows being windows though, I garuntee you 1000% that if I had linux it would use less

[small zephyr]

if you install 32 it uses like 12-16 on idle if you use 16gb it uses like 6-8gb

[wind pulsar]

Depends on the distro, but overall yes

[small zephyr]

if you have more ram windows is gonna use it if you dont have as much it will use less

[polar fern]

Not my experience.

[small zephyr]

i mean windows 10 32 bit can run perfectly smooth with 3gb of ddr2 ram

[wind pulsar]

Cool

But you also disagree with almost everything you see, it just leads to pointless debates

[misty scarab]

whats yalls fave desktop environment?

im personally a Plasma fan now and im currently running it

[polar fern]

Went from 8 to 12 to 16 to 24 gig ram windows didn’t use more as I added

@wind pulsar I don’t remember referring to anything you said.

[small zephyr]

of the 10gigs of ram i use atm 8 of that is just windows 11

[misty scarab]

2x32gb for my 64gb setup so I could go up to 128 whenever I have the money

[small zephyr]

when i used 16gb it used like half of that, windows reseves and uses more ram if you have more

like seriously from the 32gb of ram i have it shows 17of it as reserved

[polar fern]

Reserved & used isn’t the same

[hearty spear]

When you boot: Windows probably won't use too much more (unless you were RAM Starved to begin with.) After running for 6+ hours? It'll have more in use than when you booted.

[misty scarab]

discord, spotify, firefox, and other background shit running, I use 22-28gb

[timid meadow]

That seems hella high for general background use....

[misty scarab]

I have 64

[small zephyr]

yeah but none the less it means it can use more and will use more, when i had 16gb ram i was idling at around 8gigs of usage while with 32gigs i use like 10-12 depending how many chrome tabs i open

[misty scarab]

with the idea of windows giving more just because you have it, it doesnt seem unresonable for my usage to go that high

[graceful burrow]

I have 32 and idle at 5-6

[timid meadow]

Ive got 16 and idle around the same

[misty scarab]

menwhile my linux box with discord and firefox both open sitting at 2.3gb usage

[regal fox]

32 seems a reasonable amount

[small zephyr]

im at 10 atm and i only have 4 chrome tabs and discord open welp and all that background stuff as well tho

[misty scarab]

any amount of ram is resonable if you have a use case were you use it all

[regal fox]

for the minecraft server I want to run with mods and also minecraft open it would definetely be better for someone like me to have 32

[graceful burrow]

I wouldn't mind 32gb more

[polar fern]

If you’re using all the ram you’re doing something wrong.

[misty scarab]

i run 64gb and can max it out

[small zephyr]

i got 32 because it sucks not being able the pc when closing an demanding game

[regal fox]

lmao no I wouldn't use all 32

[graceful burrow]

Or
I do creative or cad work and use it all

I bought all the damn ram im gonna use all the damn ram

[polar fern]

That ends up kicking memory ti disk which is incredibly slow in comparison on consumer level hardware

[small zephyr]

when i close games like cod it takes like a minute or two to be able to do anything

[misty scarab]

I spill into pagefile even with 64

[regal fox]

cpu to use for 6800xt?

[small zephyr]

🤷‍♂️ and since it anoyed me not being able to hear some hardcore music while playing cold war zombies i doubled the ram

[misty scarab]

my desktop cpu is the 5800x3d so im good on cpu upgrades for a bit now, next thing is to throw my 3060 ti in the bin and buy something actually worth money

[small zephyr]

just get an 5600x or 5700x they are good enough to not be an bottleneck and give decent performance while not overspending like 250bucks on an low tier am5 motherboard

[small zephyr]

if you throw it into the bin throw it at me instead lmao 😂

[misty scarab]

trust me you dont want it

[small zephyr]

if i get an free gpu i happily take the bruises

[misty scarab]

it only has 8gb of vram

[polar fern]

8 gig is fine

[small zephyr]

welp i like my 6650xt its good enough for me whos only playing in 1080p

[misty scarab]

the gpu I had before the 3060ti was a 3gb card and still I feel limited

[misty scarab]

NO it is not I am ALWAYS using all of my vram

[polar fern]

Uh ok

[timid meadow]

8gb is fine in general. My 1070ftw 8gb still plays anything i want at 4k.

[polar fern]

Calm tf down JFC

[small zephyr]

go play red dead redemtion 2 on maxed settings... you basicly constantly have an not enough vram lower your settings pop up even through it runs like at 90fps

and that is a massive anoyance

[misty scarab]

8gb is absolutely not enough for me anymore

[polar fern]

Sounds like a entertainment use 🤷‍♂️

[misty scarab]

i was thinking of getting a 6950xt

[graceful burrow]

8gb of vram is starting to become an issue

[misty scarab]

but knowing me id end up using all 16 somehow

though maybe not

1440p cant use that much.. right?

right..?

[polar fern]

My current pc uses 2 gig vram & games run fine. 🤷‍♂️

[misty scarab]

on what, very low 25 fps?

[cunning pecan]

linus techtips

[polar fern]

It’s amazing to find how much things can work just fine when you’re not tossing around money.

[misty scarab]

i paid for a 170hz monitor i want to use all 170 damn hertz damn it

[polar fern]

K

[misty scarab]

what about Potassium?

[hearty spear]

there are games that won't even launch on 2GB VRAM today

[polar fern]

Sounds like a not my problem

[misty scarab]

my old card before the 3060ti only had 3gb

Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 3gb from MSI

[hearty spear]

but that also means that "2GB is fine for me!" also has no bearing on anyone else's use cases, now doesn't it?

[small zephyr]

i paid for an 144hz display cuz it was an nicer higher quality option for 150bucks in sale as a stupid 75hz display

[misty scarab]

i splurged and bought a nice resolution and nice referesh rate w/ an IPS display

[terse matrix]

I should make a 16gb 1050 ti

[small zephyr]

but i realized that freesync is kinda garbage tho since it looks the refresh rate to 75hz anyways

[misty scarab]

it costed me 275 bucks but jeez its a nice monitor

[hearty spear]

no it doesn't

[misty scarab]

1440p, 170hz, 0.5ms, IPS so good colours, supports HDR

[hearty spear]

I'm running freesync on a 165hz and I get 165hz

[small zephyr]

it literally does when i turn it on in my monitors osd

[hearty spear]

then you have a configuration issue, not a freesync issue

cuz freesync absolutely goes well above 75 hz

[misty scarab]

my monitor is freesync and it goes above that

[small zephyr]

maybe its cuz its only dp 1.2?

[misty scarab]

tho I dont have an AMD GPU so i dont think freesync is even working to its potential

[small zephyr]

it literally lock me to 75hz in the osd when enabling freesync

[terse matrix]

what do you run?

[misty scarab]

3060 ti founders edition

[terse matrix]

oh nice

[misty scarab]

not nice id ont like it

[hearty spear]

NVidia fully supports freesync. AMD Is cool because they develop non-proprietary standards

[terse matrix]

why not?
saw you complaining about vram earlier

[misty scarab]

not enough vram

[small zephyr]

🤔 somehow i liked the 1000 series founders design more

[misty scarab]

8gb is not enough

[hearty spear]

1000 series founders designs were cool, but blowers suck ass.

[desert kindle]

Bro what are you doing that need more that 8gb

[terse matrix]

just solder bigger gddr6 chips onto it simple

[small zephyr]

yeah but 100series in general looked in many cases more badass

[terse matrix]

like that one guy that made a 16gb 3070

[hearty spear]

have you not been watching? There are games today that will choke on 8GB At 1080

[misty scarab]

games,, also there are many things that can use that much vram

[desert kindle]

My 8gb rx6600 has had no issues running games at max setting 60-75fps

[small zephyr]

like okay the 4090 rog strix is nice but the ones before were kinda boring compared to the 1080ti rog strix

[terse matrix]

for example i got re2 to take up 12gb i think

[misty scarab]

such low fps

[hearty spear]

and that's not all games.

[desert kindle]

That’s more than enough, I can comfortably play at 30

[misty scarab]

60 is absolutely not more than enough espically for VR

[small zephyr]

games like RDR2 run at around 90fps maxed settings 1080p on my 6650xt

[hearty spear]

congratulations, I don't play games to play on FPS that I expected back in the year 2000.

[small zephyr]

i grew up with like 24ish fps on my xbox xD

[terse matrix]

playing 30fps locked fortnite

[desert kindle]

I spent like 2 years just playing wit the maximum of 30fps if I was lucky

[small zephyr]

and considering i play more on my switch somehow as i do on my pc under 30 is still standart

[misty scarab]

also what resolution do you play on?

[desert kindle]

1080p

[misty scarab]

I dont play on the 1080 everyone so loves to bring up, I play on higher

[terse matrix]

1440p is a great middle ground for price

paid £200 for my 165hz 1440p
though its a va panel

[small zephyr]

i dont like 4k, way to expensive getting high refresh displays and gpus capable on running dat frames

[misty scarab]

i paid 275 usd for a 170hz 1440p IPS panel

[desert kindle]

I payed £80 for a used msi monitor

[terse matrix]

nice

[hearty spear]

just because you can put up with a very sub-par framerate doesn't mean other people need to, or should.

[terse matrix]

thats decent

[small zephyr]

my samsung 24 inch curved 144 va is 150 bucks

[desert kindle]

But let’s be honest, for casual gaming 60-75 is is fine

[misty scarab]

bro 24 inch curved you got scammed

[small zephyr]

nope

[misty scarab]

yo dont need curved for 24 inches my guy

[night heron]

i can tolerate 90+ but a constant 60 still looks stuttery to me

[terse matrix]

every so often i see a 4k 60hz go on facebook for £90

[small zephyr]

i love it its perfect size for curved

[desert kindle]

Mines curved 24”

[misty scarab]

i dont consider curved until over 30

[small zephyr]

its a small curve but it makes it easier for the eyes

[desert kindle]

You clearly have expensive taste then

[hearty spear]

after getting used to 144+ sustained??
I notice when it's dropping to 75-85.

[terse matrix]

curved monitors unless they're being used for sims are just a marketing technique

[misty scarab]

i sit an optimal distance from my 27inch flat so I dont see a curve as necessarily

[small zephyr]

if you sit directly in front of it curved always makes sense its always easier on the eyes as flat panels

[night heron]

va monitors are curved because it helps with the very narrow viewing angle

without the curve the left and right sides of the screen would look washed out

[misty scarab]

you should always sit an optimal distance from the monitor if you care about your eyes that much

[desert kindle]

I have a curved 24” msi optix (g24 I think)

[manic torrent]

lol, not on a 27.

[misty scarab]

these people out here are doing curved 24 lol

[manic torrent]

curve starts becoming useful at 32.

[misty scarab]

thats what I said!

[small zephyr]

i am at optimal sitting distance but compared to an tv you sit right in front of it instead of a couple of feet away

[desert kindle]

I use mine for a sim rig, the curve even on a 24 is very useful

[hearty spear]

if people want a curved 24? Let them have their curved 24.

[paper mesa]

someone needs to talk about 1080p 27 inch monitors lol

[manic torrent]

I have three flat monitors, 27,48,27

[hearty spear]

what about 720p 32"?

[misty scarab]

you think 27 1080 is bad? my grandma has a 50 inch 1080 tv

[terse matrix]

i'd only get a 1080p 27 inch if i was trying to have dual 27 inches and wanted to save a few

[terse matrix]

oh god

[manic torrent]

all pixel densities below 24" 1080 are shit.

[small zephyr]

🤷‍♂️if i would need to choose between my golden ratio 27inch flat or my 24 inch curved i would always choose the 24 inch one

[night heron]

1080p is fine for media

[desert kindle]

240p 50”

[night heron]

on a tv

[paper mesa]

the ppi would make the monitor look like garbage

[misty scarab]

no, she deserves better

[hearty spear]

except that doesn't exist in flat panels 😛
Troll harder.

[night heron]

are you gonna buy her an expensive tv?

[misty scarab]

get her a 80 inch 4k hdr smart tv

[terse matrix]

4k tvs are getting cheaper

[night heron]

because the only real movie media that even comes in 4k form are HDR blurays and a few odd netflix shows

[hearty spear]

I don't want an 80" TV
I literally do not have anywhere to put one in my apartment.

[terse matrix]

the angle is bugging me lmao

[misty scarab]

i dont watch TV so theres no need to buy myself one

[small zephyr]

i dont like 4k bring capable to run it and get an decent screen is still waay to expensive in my opinion

[desert kindle]

My 32” tv already takes up too much space

[manic torrent]

I bought my mother in law a 55" 4k TV

[manic torrent]

yeah it's an older pic, obviously I fixed that 🙂

[small zephyr]

like an 27inch 4k 144+hz starts at like 400bucks here

[terse matrix]

fair enough lol, great

[night heron]

you can get a 4k tv for very cheap but it's not going to have real HDR support, and 4k movies are all HDR

[misty scarab]

housing market where I live is like super " pls move in" now, 60-100k for a standalone house, 2 stories, 1.5k square feet, etc

[misty scarab]

different locations different markets

[terse matrix]

bruh 3 bedroom houses sell for half a million pounds where i am

[desert kindle]

House prices in my area have litteraly doubled in 3 years

[small zephyr]

and 4k tv's under 400are teribble in most cases just get an nice 1080 one instead

[misty scarab]

here 3 bed will be erm maybe 110k?

[night heron]

there are some great cheap options in america but idk about europe

[terse matrix]

lucky

[misty scarab]

well not entirely lucky, consider the area too!

[terse matrix]

true

[misty scarab]

Small town of 7-10k people at most, nearest large city is abt 30-60mins away via car, no pub transport, walking is maybe an option

[terse matrix]

nice background
i think i posted mine in battlestations ages ago

[desert kindle]

My house in England is 3bed 2 bath, it cost £85k 3 years ago, it’s now worth £210k

[full fossil]

there are 2 bedroom houses near me (suburban/rural texas) going for $600k

[desert kindle]

No one here can afford to move anymore

[terse matrix]

the one i live in cost 180 and its worth like 600 now
its crazy

[night heron]

i was talking about tvs not houses

the housing market is atrocious in all of the first world as far as i know

[misty scarab]

i live in rural/suburban PA and here theyd be way way lower

[terse matrix]

exactly

[full fossil]

yeah but people love to make a competition of how miserable they are!

[manic torrent]

yeah digitalblasphemy

[desert kindle]

Yo facts

[full fossil]

TVs are cheaper than ever straight up

[desert kindle]

Hell no they aren’t here

[manic torrent]

yeah the one I got for my MIL was $500. so cheap

[tidal minnow]

How well does amd cope with raytracing when it comes to gpus and stuff?

[small zephyr]

prices are okayish here but no one could move after corvid and now they either move all or no one moves basicly

[desert kindle]

Depends wich gpu you have

[misty scarab]

depends on the gpu but not that it was designed to do

[tidal minnow]

6700xt

[misty scarab]

rt in general for me isnt it so I just play raster even on an RTX gpu

[terse matrix]

ill keep it in mind
i'd send mine in here but im too poor for floatplane lmao

[full fossil]

my 6700 is okay, I'm playing cyberpunk medium rt at 1080p and getting like 60 fps

[hearty spear]

it does okay. NVidia is better at RT, but currently the performance hit is too high to use it for normal gameplay.

[desert kindle]

My rx6600 can handle raytracing on some games, but not with the most amazing frame rated

[misty scarab]

anyway I was thinking of a 6950xt to replace my 3060 ti

[terse matrix]

all amd cards can handle rt
just most are shit at it

[terse matrix]

good idea

[full fossil]

I hope some day it's like AA, rough at the start and later just another setting

[tidal minnow]

Yeah it is just I wanted to use it on roblox and minecraft just to mess around with it. It's not my main purpose of the gpu.

[desert kindle]

Roblox raytracing?

[hearty spear]

for those it'll do fine

[terse matrix]

great gpu for a great price too

[small zephyr]

roblox raytracing that unwanted hated child of lego and minecraft can do raytracing oof

[tidal minnow]

Yeah you used to be able to install 3rd party software to use raytracing on roblox but you can't as of now.

Due to the recent update to its anitcheat

[terse matrix]

they're about as much as i paid for my 6800xt like 6 months ago

[misty scarab]

you mean you could install reshade which wasnt really raytracing it just made the floor look wet

[tidal minnow]

What country are you in?

[misty scarab]

EEUU

[tidal minnow]

How much for your 3060ti 0_o

[misty scarab]

399 is what i paid

[tidal minnow]

How much to buy it from you 0_o

[small zephyr]

the 6950xt is prob double the price around here

[misty scarab]

not selling it unless locla

[terse matrix]

thats not bad
were you an nvidia fanboy at the time or did you just need cuda or smt

[tidal minnow]

U.K?

[misty scarab]

its abt 650 on amazon

[misty scarab]

nah man, EEUU

[small zephyr]

i dont trust amazon on gpu's

[tidal minnow]

EEUU?

[misty scarab]

avaliablility

[small zephyr]

i even trust shady back alley deals more as amazon on pc hardware

[misty scarab]

estados unidos

[terse matrix]

amazon got mine lost in customs for a bit
they failed to tell me my 6800xt was an import from portugal

[small zephyr]

you get more scammed on amazon onk the pc market as you get actually what you wanted

[tidal minnow]

Ahh

[full fossil]

what amazon are you using lol

[misty scarab]

amaozn return policy is the top dog though

[terse matrix]

mhm

[small zephyr]

hmmm not always

[misty scarab]

well i have prime so for me yes always lol

[tidal minnow]

Anyone here selling their gpu and doesn't mind if it goes international? 👉👈

[long briar]

that's probably on you tbh. They always say where it ships from especially when they also mention import tax deposit

[terse matrix]

it wasnt mentioned on the page

[misty scarab]

any time I call they always hit me with the " thank u for being prime. how can we kiss your ass today"

[small zephyr]

it depends if its an amazon market place or regular amazon stuff, since the market place stuff tends to have worse retun plocies liek needeing to pay yourself to send an broken item back for example

[terse matrix]

what type of gpu you lookin for?

[misty scarab]

they want to play roblox and minecraft

[long briar]

I mean amazon charged me for shipping when I had prime, I contacted em and they gave my money back rather soon

[misty scarab]

never had that even happen to me

[full fossil]

I just hate their monopolistic practices so I try not to use them

[terse matrix]

i got a 1050 ti that i was js gonna mod but im in the uk so that works well @tidal minnow

[full fossil]

Of course there's random niche bs that I can only find on there

[misty scarab]

i have no one else that does it as good here

[long briar]

At the end of the day if amazon is the cheapest then I'm getting it there

[misty scarab]

walmart for sure doenst sell GPUs

[tidal minnow]

Oh I'm looking for something 3060ti/6700xt level

[terse matrix]

Ah ok

[long briar]

Like my Zebra Sarasa Vintage pens

[full fossil]

They do on their website

[misty scarab]

i mean in store

[long briar]

Best price was on Amazon so why not

[terse matrix]

marketplace is alright, just look through there and ask to test it before you hand over the money

[misty scarab]

also just because its on walmart.com doesnt mean walmart sells it

[small zephyr]

the same amazon logistics dude had 5 wifes child briths in an single weeks and could not deliver to me hence item goes back to amazon so i can order it again to get the same shit the week after

[terse matrix]

saw someone selling a 6900xt for £250 before now

[full fossil]

Same
Got my gpu and fans off of amazon and the rest of the system through microcenter or directly from the manufacturer

[small zephyr]

all support does: they give you amazon music subscription you can use without credit card

[tidal minnow]

What the fuck

Sorry for my language but

[terse matrix]

lmao ik

[long briar]

rly? I've never had that happen tbh

[misty scarab]

amazon support always made it right whenever I had any issue

[long briar]

I guess that's region based... polygamy is illegal herr

[small zephyr]

i saw someone selling an asus rog strix 4090, till you saw its only the shround in the pictures

[misty scarab]

their customer support is like really good here

[small zephyr]

they wanted 500bucks for the fucking shroud

[terse matrix]

i could dm you a picture of the old listing lol

[terse matrix]

bruh

[small zephyr]

amazon still owns me 100bucks

[terse matrix]

someone selling a 2060 for £100 👀

[full fossil]

damn not bad

[long briar]

skill issue tbh

[full fossil]

what's wrong with it?

[misty scarab]

It went down!

[terse matrix]

js read the desc
delivery only 💀
fuck that

[misty scarab]

last time i chcked amazon the 6950xt was 650 usd now its 632

[small zephyr]

my payments came late so i needed to manually transfer my money to amazon however i ended up returing it since it was broken but they refuse to refund me or give me back an product cuz i didnt pay? i even send em screenshots and proof i paidf

[misty scarab]

heres one for 629

what do you guys think the prices will be by june?

[terse matrix]

bruh 6600xt for £100
they aint feeling alright

[tidal minnow]

Bruh there's a 3070 for sale for £200 but it's from Bournemouth

[full fossil]

probably same as now
used inventory is balancing out, new inventory isn't selling

[terse matrix]

the 6600xt i was talking abouts in cornwall ffs lmao

[full fossil]

well, 4070s aren't selling lol

[misty scarab]

its 630 rn

for a 6950xt new

[full fossil]

not bad
but new 7000 series cards are coming soon

[misty scarab]

too expensiv

[tidal minnow]

3060ti for £180

[terse matrix]

1660 super one fan for £50 👀

[full fossil]

I mean the price will drop more depending on new card's performance

[small zephyr]

4070s should not be brought by any one so nvidia is sitting on em on masses without being able to sell em and give em an more reasunable pricing

[full fossil]

hard agree
Fuck that thing

[misty scarab]

im asking what it will be by june

[tidal minnow]

What the hell? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/125111703895667/?ref=facebook_story_share

[full fossil]

Again, depends on the performance of the new cards

and price

[terse matrix]

Open to sensible offers

Specs:

120gb nvme ssd (boot drive)
500gb ssd
1tb hdd
AMD ryzen 7 2700x
B450 ROG STRIX motherboard
RTX 3060TI
16gb Corsair vengeance pro
PSU 550w
Case Corsair carbide 275R
AIO ID cooling

Please ask if you have any questions 👍
(This pc is not free)

[small zephyr]

i general nvidia paints itself as holy beings or something but after all that scalping suddenly flagship gpu's are double the price what they used to be

[full fossil]

If the 7700XT is outperforming a 6950XT for $500? expect the 6950XT to drop to that lol

[tidal minnow]

Bruhhhhhh I forgot to check description /;

[terse matrix]

lmao happens to all of us

[small zephyr]

producing em may have raised the costs horever production is nowhere so expensive they need to double the prices

[full fossil]

is it bad that I see "AIO" and think hell no
Immediately replace

[misty scarab]

my pc has an aio and its fine

[terse matrix]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/189698860642632/?ref=browse_tab&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&referral_story_type=top_picks bruh

[full fossil]

Because it's your AIO
I don't trust other people to take care of their stuff

[small zephyr]

🤷‍♂️ i use an 240aio on an 1600af

[full fossil]

overkill but I bet it's quiet as hell

[tidal minnow]

Turn on dms right now there's an offer for a gaming pc with 2 gaming monitors and keyboard and mouse and it's in my town

[terse matrix]

get a couple 780 tis in sli and i'll have the ultimate xp machine 😈

[misty scarab]

i use a 360mm on a 5800x3d

[small zephyr]

not realy Xilence may be owned by bequeit but the fans are realy whiney

[terse matrix]

be careful you dont doxx your town to me

[small zephyr]

even the cheap 20bucks china uphere fans are less whiney

[tidal minnow]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1576461832863593/?ref=facebook_story_share

[full fossil]

Yeah I can't stand the whine
Usually I go with noctua just because of the pitch of the sound they make, I can't stand whine

[tidal minnow]

Idc this pc deal is insane

[small zephyr]

🤔 i prob get an corsair 360aio when i buy the 5700x and an new case from corsair

[misty scarab]

corsair.

[terse matrix]

fe lol
i sent you a friend request

[tidal minnow]

Just LOOK

[misty scarab]

I use an Alphacool AIO

[small zephyr]

corsair aio's maybe expensive horever i think all the stuff they include with em are worth it, the comander pro for example is like 80bucks on its own and the fans like 120bucks at least

[misty scarab]

I just use an Eisbaer Auroa LT

[small zephyr]

or their cases with the rgb fans, 120bucks case that got 3 rgb fans inside each costs 30bucks each so yeah basicly they are kinda cheap if you look at the whole picture

[long briar]

all of which aren't needed anyways

[small zephyr]

not realy if you like rgb corsair literally got the best rgb fans

[long briar]

inb4 he realizes there are 5 dollar argb fans that perform as good or better

[full fossil]

where rgb

[small zephyr]

not realy in my experience in terms of performance corsair rgb fans perform way better in terms of watercooling as any other brand

[full fossil]

All you need is fans with good static pressure for water cooling

[long briar]

https://a.co/d/46JT4mw

[small zephyr]

they nowhere look as good as corsair fans tho

[full fossil]

Right I legitimately forgot people build for aesthetics sometimes

[small zephyr]

if i pay money for stuff i want it to look good

[full fossil]

My case has B
Brown
There is a single brown light on it

[long briar]

how so?

you want your rings?

[small zephyr]

like it may impact performance but im gonna replace the 2 fucking ugly red fans on my 240 aio with cheapo fans

[full fossil]

man on my last build I cut the power to the lights on my cheap fans

[small zephyr]

i want em too look like either corsairs fan and ring rgb or the unifans infinity

[full fossil]

you got unifans money?

[long briar]

^

[small zephyr]

kidna and kinda not

[long briar]

so that's a no

[misty scarab]

My current PC is a
Ryzen 7 5800x3d
64 GB (2x32) of G.Skill Ripjaws 3200 mhz
3.5 TB of all SSD storage
and an RTX 3060 Ti

[small zephyr]

unifans infinity are around 150bucks for 3 so nah i rather get an 250bucks corsair aio and get 3 great fans with it

[misty scarab]

thoughts on this setup?

[long briar]

you're trying to justify expensive fans that don't perform great because it has 100 bucks worth of rgb?

Corsair fans aren't great

[small zephyr]

🤷‍♂️ at least i want my pc looks better as it actually is xD

[long briar]

they're just fine you're paying for the rgb and brand

[long briar]

how about saving the money on aesthetics so it actually runs faster

[small zephyr]

to be true i hate corsair however they stuff is undeniable good

[full fossil]

I'm just trying to process this $150 for three fans

[misty scarab]

150 for THREE!?!

[long briar]

it isn't good.

[full fossil]

they better be maglev

[misty scarab]

I got some be quiet! fans for WAYY less

[long briar]

Maglev is garbage tech

It's a cool concept that never took off for a reason

[full fossil]

I just got some noctua redux, $14 a fan I'll take it

[misty scarab]

what about be quiet!

[long briar]

corsair has some great cases

[small zephyr]

the thing is i dont want over speced stuff like i only play at 1080p anyways so why bother getting hardware capable for more? to get like 300fps in a game i dont need?

[long briar]

Be quiet is a safe bet, silent wings are pretty good

[misty scarab]

niiice I have some in my pc lol

[long briar]

• new monitor

[full fossil]

you have a 240mm rad on a 1600AF, that's already over spec

[small zephyr]

i rather have my pc perform good enough for 1080p and it being an show case

[long briar]

a showcase for what

[full fossil]

for who?

[long briar]

you show off ur pc and say it has a 1st Gen ryzen

[small zephyr]

🤷‍♂️ i got it for free and since the stock i had on it as makeshift welp yeah i gladly take it

[misty scarab]

i dont care for RGB or anything like that ,id rather focus my money on perfromance

[long briar]

Ik it's technically ryzen 2000 but... no

[small zephyr]

the 1600af 1. is only a place holder 2. is actually the 2600 rebranded

[misty scarab]

the only RGB inside of my PC is the AIO which I have the rgb unplugged, and the mobo light which I think I can disable I just dont fee like installing dragon center

[long briar]

Placeholder? when you spent all your money on corsair fans?

[full fossil]

I have zero rgb

[misty scarab]

I hate rgb

[long briar]

2. I already mentioned it's ryzen 2000 but it's running 1600 microcode

Also placeholder for what? you already said you have enough performance

[misty scarab]

how safe is spraypainting PC cases?

[small zephyr]

duh i got it like 2-3 years ago when i still had less money as now and when it was like 70bucks to have an cheap upgrade over the phenom 2 i used before

[misty scarab]

I want a pink PC

[long briar]

safe if you know what you're doing

[full fossil]

safe, just let it dry and cure, gonna take a minimum of a couple days if not weeks

[small zephyr]

i never said that i only said i only need enough performance for 1080p gaming however that doenst mean i will keep that 1600af for longer since the 3,7ghz arent that good for my fps

[long briar]

You just said you didn't want more fps at 1080p.

[small zephyr]

so i will get an 5600x or 5700x depending on the prices with an better motherboard since my msi board is literall garbage

[full fossil]

ghz doesn't mean anything outside of the same gen

[long briar]

^

[small zephyr]

i said i dont need 300fps i only need ecent fps, yeah but theres some stuff better with 500series and an b550 or x570 board

[long briar]

same Gen arch* because ryzen isn't generation till 7th gen

[long briar]

why are you spending money you don't need to spend

[full fossil]

why not spend that money on a board and a cpu then?

[misty scarab]

just sittin here with firefox open, CPU boosting to 4.1 ghz, 11gb ram usage and apparently 30% gpu usage i think its wallpaper engine

[long briar]

why is wallpaper engine running when its covered?

[small zephyr]

cuz i want it? cuz its mine? and i want to keepp at least the cpu motherboard side for longer

[full fossil]

and if your msi board is that bad, try updating the bios and chipset drivers?

[misty scarab]

"Desktop window manager" and " Wallpaper Engine"

and now discord is using 15% gpu when I alt tan into it

[long briar]

I'm so confused by this guys priorities

My guy trying to justify corsair cooling prices running a 1600af...

Then saying he doesn't need 300fps for 1080p

[small zephyr]

already did horever it was an 40bucks motherboard in the first place it lacks features and having only one single m.2 suck and i cant plug an pcie expansio or something cuz even an 2 slot gpu covers both pcie x4 ports

[low rain]

I’m sick and I have to do a test oml

[long briar]

Then saying that he wants to upgrade cause he wants more fps

[full fossil]

I understand sorta
I mean, I paid 170 for a fractal north case because I adore the wood accents and mesh

[long briar]

That's a niche product tho

Wood isnt exactly common for cases, and nobody else makes it for cheaper

[small zephyr]

how do i need to justify myself in the first place i already literally said i want it for the looks? and that the 1600af is gonna be replace soon anyways?

do you even read my stuff or are just trolling

[full fossil]

If you didn't want validation you wouldn't have asked a discord server of nerds

[long briar]

this

your 1600af is perfectly capable for 1080p.

[small zephyr]

🤷‍♂️ duh ever considering that it maybe still fine but not for all to long since i already seing bottlenecking my 6650xt?

[full fossil]

what kind of display are you using

[small zephyr]

an 5600x or 5700x is more future proof as my 1600af

[long briar]

And if you think I'm trolling, do note I've been helping people in this server since 2018, and have over 90k messages total

[small zephyr]

just an plain old 1080p 144hz display

[long briar]

are you getting enough fps for 1080p?

[misty scarab]

Bottlenecking in general is extremely innaccurate because it relies on an extremely specific scenario for example in gaming where the term is used the most often it will depend on your resolution your graphics settings your current temps (frequency for cpu and gpu) are you hitting boost clocks? What specifically are you looking at in the game at the moment etc.
As soon as you change one variable the result whether a part "bottlenecks" another will most likely be completely different```

[full fossil]

If you want more performance then go for a cpu
Your current cooler can definitely cool a 5700x

[small zephyr]

thats what i said like 10times already imma get an new motherboard and cpu first and then comes the looks

[full fossil]

[small zephyr]

i know my current is enough but if i want an showcase build 🤷‍♂️ getting something that is overkill and looks nice is the way to go

[full fossil]

you said you wanted to buy fans to show off your pc (to who?) with a 1600AF

[small zephyr]

its like no one need custom loops but they do it anyways since it looks awesome

i think i talk again walls

again: before i get another set of high quality fans i get another fucking cpu

[full fossil]

people with custom loops aren't worried about money or choices

[small zephyr]

the fucking 1600af is a stupid placeholder? am i talking in riddles or something\

[long briar]

objectively false. custom loops perform very well

[misty scarab]

this ^

[crude jasper]

go cool a 350W+ cpu with an aio

barely any AIOs are capable of that

[long briar]

people running customs loops often are cooling hardware that can't be cooled in any other way

[small zephyr]

i have enough moeny to maybe get an 5900x or 5950x but i choose to get an 5600x or 5700x instead cuz i will never need that much of improvement i just want something more decent as my current one which will maybe last me for like 5-10 years

[long briar]

... why spend if no need?

you're better off getting a 5600 and a 1440p monitor

[small zephyr]

cuz i know for sure that with the current games my cpu struggles if i want do stuff in the background as well

[long briar]

And keeping the motherboard

[full fossil]

you're talking about a $300 cpu cooler for a $250 5700X, a cpu that can be cooled easily with a stock fan
It's just bad money choices. If you even have to think about money and budgeting for a showcase (again, for who) it's a bad idea

[small zephyr]

nah that b450 needs to go

[misty scarab]

no lol

im running a 5800x3d on a b450 rn

[small zephyr]

i for sure need an b550 or x570, cuz even if its not much that smart memory acces is nice

[long briar]

just get a 5600.

[small zephyr]

and b450 cant use smart memory acces

[misty scarab]

so?

[small zephyr]

as well as the 1600af doesnt support it

[long briar]

if you're considering x570, I can only tell you that... you're no better than someone who doesn't know pcs and just chooses based on names

[small zephyr]

reasons i change to b550 is 1. smart memory 2. it will alst me little bit longer as my zen+ cpu

[full fossil]

what features does x570 have that you even need

[misty scarab]

@long briar with a 5800x3d, would the next upgrade for me be to upgrade my 3060ti?

[small zephyr]

🤷‍♂️ its not about needing some x570 boards are more realistically priced as b550's

[full fossil]

5800x3d is still one of the best gaming cpus around, you could slap a 4090 in that thing

[long briar]

yep. but I wouldn't bother upgrading till it can't keep up with usage

[misty scarab]

vram is my limitation rn

cause I play in 1440

[long briar]

oh, then maybe consider a used 3090 or 6950xt if you don't need rt

[small zephyr]

like decent b550's start at around 130bucks and x570 at 100bucks

[misty scarab]

I was thinking a 6950xt

[long briar]

whatever you want. why tell us?

[misty scarab]

3090 is just ootq because they still cost a LOT and RT is just not worth it

[full fossil]

you'd be getting crazy vram with a 3090 though, really the only reason to get one

[misty scarab]

i can get a 6950xt brand new for 630rn and itll prob be lower by the time I go to buy it next month

[long briar]

rly? I'm seeing used 3090 a little above a 6950xt price wise

[misty scarab]

im seeing 3090s for over 1k still

[long briar]

yea that's not worth it

[misty scarab]

for PC i only buy new, i just dont trust people to take care of their stuff

[long briar]

They should be like 700 or less used

[crude jasper]

some x570s just have better VRMs/ more m.2s for the price

[misty scarab]

having worked repairs, people abuse their stuff a lot

[long briar]

Ohhh fair enough

[small zephyr]

and another reason i want to change the 1600af, it cant handle the full potential of my ram when using 4 sticks

[full fossil]

fairly sure a 5700X isn't going to stress VRMs

[misty scarab]

brand new in box sealed 6950xts going for 630 sounds out of the question to me cause thats so low for such a good gpu

[low rain]

Me personally I got a b550 cause I like 5’s and I like the letter B

[long briar]

no. B550 at a given price will be better than x570.

[low rain]

B just sounds better than X

Who wants a motherboard that starts with X???

[long briar]

X570 is also more prone to failure

[low rain]

It’s a disgusting letter

And 570 is a weird number

[long briar]

Note that it's literally reject 7nm repurposed for chipset

Which is why it needs a fan

[small zephyr]

having 3600mhz ram and only being able to set it up to 2933 sucks

[misty scarab]

Hell 630 for a 6950xt on amazon just got beat by newegg

[crude jasper]

?

[misty scarab]

619.99 for an ASRock

[crude jasper]

i typed "some" which means specific models

[long briar]

x570 is very costly to implement

[low rain]

I’m supposed to be doing a test but I keep grabbing my phone

[long briar]

A b550 board at like 150 will have better vrms and pcb quality than an x570 at 150

[fossil parrot]

anyone knows the globe they sometimes use for ad's or like roasting the worst pc on craigslist vid?

[misty scarab]

soemone told me my 650w psu could handle a 6950xt and 5800x3d, are they correct?

[long briar]

should be fine

[misty scarab]

its a Enermax Revolution D.F 650

[small zephyr]

x570 boards dropped in prices while b550 raised prices 🤷‍♂️

[full fossil]

a good 650W psu probably

[long briar]

revolution DF is good

[misty scarab]

is the Enermax Revolution D.F 650 a good psu?

[long briar]

top tier actually

[crude jasper]

used market exists and i also typed m.2 slots, VRMs aren't the only relevant important feature

[misty scarab]

i paid 112 for it back in 2021 so I hope its a good PSu for that price and only 650

[long briar]

m.2 will be same-y across the board

[long briar]

there's better nowadays value wise

[small zephyr]

when did b450 max launch again?

[long briar]

But that's 2021, good price

[full fossil]

look, I don't think someone who pays $50 per fan is worried about cost

[misty scarab]

i also got a 3060ti in 2021 for 399

[crude jasper]

sounds a little high for 2021

[misty scarab]

Granted, I had to sleep in a parking lot on a july night for it

[long briar]

Nowadays the default recommendation is rm750e for 99

[small zephyr]

i paid 45bucks back then for my msi b450m pro vdh max, and i hate that board since i only have an 12v rgb header only 1 m.2 slot and stupid placement of the x4 pcie slots

[dire roost]

pretty nice

[crude jasper]

well you bought a micro ATX board, pretty expected to have little m.2 slots

[small zephyr]

no matter what gpu you use on this board if its not an single slot gpu you either choke it with expansion cards or it covers em

[misty scarab]

so I should be fine to use a 6950xt and 5800x3d with only a 650w since I bought a high tier PSU?

[long briar]

yea

[full fossil]

that's pretty much all microatx boards....

[crude jasper]

you're not choking a GPU with an expansion card

[crude jasper]

i just wouldn't advise having a large amount of storage devices

[small zephyr]

if i would have put an soundcard or something in there with my old gpu it would literally cover the fans

[long briar]

nah it's fine

[misty scarab]

I have 3 SSDs

[crude jasper]

thats not large enough

[small zephyr]

and with my new 6650xt it would not fit at all cuz BOTH x4 slots are covered up

[crude jasper]

a large amount is 6 hard drives and 3 m.2s v least

[full fossil]

sounds like you need an ATX board then

[small zephyr]

welp its an 2.9slot gpu tho, but even an 2 slot gpu covers one port and the other one would interfere with the fans\

[crude jasper]

i paid for 6 sata slots i will use the 6 sata slots

[long briar]

6950xt isn't gonna draw more than 350w, 5800x3d maxes 150. that still leaves 150w for everything else which is plenty

and rarely will both GPU and CPU be pinned at 100% load

[small zephyr]

thats why i will most likely get the asus rog b550 cuz somehow its one of the cheapest not brown b550 boards somehow

🤨 i would never thought that an asus rog board is cheaper as an asrock or msi board

[crude jasper]

if you used enough hard drives it'd be enough

[small zephyr]

so weird

[full fossil]

?? I got an MSI b550 with wifi for $99 new
where are you shopping for this stuff

[misty scarab]

people still use HDDs in 2023?

[small zephyr]

welp our prices still are fucked up around here

[crude jasper]

Who doesn't? they're good for backups

[misty scarab]

my system is all SSD

[crude jasper]

cringe

[full fossil]

$$$$$$$$

[misty scarab]

not cringe, theyre fast

[crude jasper]

backups are important 💪

[small zephyr]

and since i always got basicly scammed with dead on arival motherboards from the used markets i only buy em new

[crude jasper]

i also would rather not store a shit ton of video on SSDs

[misty scarab]

anything important goes to google drive

[crude jasper]

thats even cringier

[misty scarab]

its cheap

[small zephyr]

2tb's for 50bucks why bother getting an 2tb nvme for 120bucks

[misty scarab]

SATA ssds exist

[crude jasper]

ewwwwwwww

[small zephyr]

they literally costs mosre around here as nvme's

[misty scarab]

i saw like 85 bucks for a 2tb SATA ssd, much faster than a HDD

[crude jasper]

you just have bad takes man

[misty scarab]

no they dont

[crude jasper]

i'd rather pay for an m.2 ssd than a sata

[small zephyr]

an 2 tb sata goes for at least 150bucks here

[tardy terrace]

if you're lucky and catch a good sale you can get a 2tb nvme for just around $100

[misty scarab]

I paid 100 here for one, maybe a bit less

[echo canopy]

Not everyone lives where you are.

[small zephyr]

welp maybe 30bucks on scammyexpress

[misty scarab]

no it was on newegg

[crude jasper]

satas are typically equivalent in price to m.2 anyway

[misty scarab]

I bought a Team EX2 2tb SATA for a little under 100 usd

[echo canopy]

Anyways, any on hours for a HDD will kill it over time, ssd only need a occasional refresh every few years.

[tardy terrace]

I got lucky and nabbed a wd sn570 for like $109

[crude jasper]

yeah at that price point i'd rather the m.2

[misty scarab]

nice

[tardy terrace]

no more mechanical drives in my system yay

[small zephyr]

if i want more ssd storage i get more nvme's why bother with cables, however if i want cheap mass storage for backups and stuff i rather get hdd's since they are cheaper

[misty scarab]

M.2 only gives like 1-2 second faster loading time over SATA ssd, so for being cheaper I want with SATA ssd

[crude jasper]

they're pretty equivalently priced

[tardy terrace]

m.2 has better random i/o

[misty scarab]

theyre cheaper where I live

[low rain]

Too expensive

[misty scarab]

doesnt really mean much to me

i dont transfer files from 1 ssd to another a lot

[low rain]

I just put my useless crap inside my hdd

[echo canopy]

Mald SSD are good

[small zephyr]

and for waht do you need super fast speeds on an back up anyways its not like i do so much stuff that i need back ups regularly so slow hdd speeds is just fine

[long briar]

ironwolf 4tb draws like, 5w... you'd need a lot of them to make a meaningful difference

[misty scarab]

if I need to install something, and I want it on my E drive, I just set it to install right to my E drive, I dont install it on my D drive than transfer it over

#tech-chat-1 for my drives list rn

[echo canopy]

~14 watts actually

[small zephyr]

welp if you take a lot of pictures and videos on vaccations and family meetings etc having back up storage is a nice to have

[misty scarab]

I have my EX2 set to 2 partitions cause I want to seperate something

[tardy terrace]

i was gonna say what mechanical drive draws under 10w at load? lmao

[echo canopy]

OG iPod mini hdd

[tardy terrace]

ok what 3.5" drive

little smartass /s

[pliant karma]

👀 ayo peyton hello

[echo canopy]

Excuse me I’m above average height

[tardy terrace]

hi panda o/

[misty scarab]

me who is 167cm

[low rain]

If ur like me and have a shit ton of mods for assetto corsa than your gonna need like a 2tb drive for it, so that’s why I have a hdd.

Anyways back to my test 😭

[long briar]

no?

[misty scarab]

Who said that Sata SSDs cost about the the same as NVME

Im seeing a 2TB SATA SSD for 77 bucks rn

[long briar]

Everyone like 4 years ago?

[crude jasper]

188 cm right here

[long briar]

avg 5w, 12tb is avg 8w. If you're talking about peak draw (spin up) then yea you'd be about right

[echo canopy]

It’s 4 idle which I assume isn’t spinning at all.

[long briar]

if it's not spinning it's off lmao

[crude jasper]

No

[long briar]

Idle means spinning, but not writing or reading

[tardy terrace]

n-no.. not always.

[echo canopy]

I was looking at a full nas builds power draw with one

[long briar]

For HDD power consumption numbers?

[tardy terrace]

there's this neat feature called "parking at idle"

[echo canopy]

Yeah it’s ~ 5 watts even in use

[full fossil]

Sata ssd’s are a little more expensive. I got the Leven 2TB Sata ssd from amazon for $62. Dramless but fine for a game drive or something

[crude jasper]

the HDD not spinning doesn't mean its off

[misty scarab]

I got a Teamgroup 2tb ssd for 77

[long briar]

That's controlled by the sata controller no?

[tardy terrace]

controller board has power? drive is on.

[crude jasper]

^

[long briar]

not the HDD itself?

[full fossil]

I remember buying 1TB sata ssd for $110 not too long ago

[misty scarab]

where tf

[full fossil]

It’s getting cheap(er)

[tardy terrace]

are we really parting out an hdd just so you can be right

[full fossil]

512gb sata used to be $130

[misty scarab]

bro no

[long briar]

We were talking about the HDD by itself tho?

[full fossil]

Lmao youngins

[tardy terrace]

The controller board is attached to the drive.

[misty scarab]

a 500 costs 34

my laptop has 16gb ram, 512gb SSD, and a 6300u and I only paid 150 for it

[full fossil]

Yes. My Samsung 512gb 950 Pro was $350

[crude jasper]

an HDD is a hard disk drive, the entire drive is the entire drive

[misty scarab]

you got scammed my man

[crude jasper]

if a part of the drive is on, the drive is on

[full fossil]

Now a 2TB 980 Pro is $130

I bought my 980 Pro for $270

[long briar]

Waiiitttt so. Hard drives decide for themselves when to stop spinning, not the operating system

[tardy terrace]

where tf are you from

[full fossil]

Everything is so cheap now

[crude jasper]

that was a 2015 drive dawg

[tardy terrace]

Drives have the ability to do this, yes. The computer itself can also tell the drive to do it.

[misty scarab]

SSDs were a thing that old ago?

[crude jasper]

Yes?

[full fossil]

Yep lol. My first ever m.2 drive. It was fkn expensive

[long briar]

I was only aware of the latter part. I stand corrected then

[polar fern]

hdd's will spin down on their own if the operating system is not querying for info/settings allow for it

[tardy terrace]

^

[long briar]

Either way, point still remains. you need a lot of hard drives to take 150w

[full fossil]

I still have my 512gb 950 Pro 8 years later. Boot drive of my htpc. Works flawlessly

[crude jasper]

the HDDs aren't the only thing taking 150w

[tardy terrace]

ok, 10 drives at spin-up will blow the psu

[full fossil]

All my hard drives have died lol

[crude jasper]

32gigs of ram will take 12W, fans will take 1-2W or more

[full fossil]

Ssd’s are much more durable

[polar fern]

10 drives spinning up at once would be an interesting sound

[crude jasper]

i regularly hear 6 spin up, not really

[long briar]

which is what I was saying as well, but staggered spin up also exists

[tardy terrace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4

[long briar]

context was 6950xt and 5800x3d on a 650w

[misty scarab]

saw that lol

[misty scarab]

yeah

[pliant karma]

yes I like loud sounds like that

[polar fern]

why dont they just close the door

[misty scarab]

ignore the prices, they arent accurate to what I paid exactly
this is my PC though
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6LrkVw

[long briar]

I was saying even if both were at max load you'd have 150w to play with for motherboard, chipset, ram and storage

[full fossil]

I had 10k rpm velociraptors at raid0 back then. I dont remember them being loud

[tardy terrace]

https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/dataCenterNoiseGenerator.php

[pliant karma]

lol currently listening to that

[full fossil]

I used to hate on ssd’s so bad. Such a bad take back then I’m ashamed. My overpriced babies! Lol

I regret this purchase so much

[misty scarab]

3ssds with 64gb ram

[crude jasper]

i've been running same hdd since 2017 no issue

on for at the very least 25,000 hours

[full fossil]

All the hard drives I bought 8 years ago have died

950 Pro and a 512gb sata ssd is still alive 8 years later

[crude jasper]

this was spinning too, no idle because it's always had something running

[tardy terrace]

i hate to make y'all have emotions this early but I feel this comic is important-
https://twitter.com/alexkrokus/status/1648320844387561475/photo/1

alex krokus (@alexkrokus)

just celebrated my laptop’s 10th birthday <3

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Twitter · Apr 18, 2023, 1:41 PM

[chrome vector]

My all in one VAIO computer from 2011ish has had the same hard drive in it since I've bought it

its touch screen too

[tardy terrace]

god im such a baby im actually crying over this

[chrome vector]

shitty touch screen... but touch screen nonetheless

[crude jasper]

our HDDs are just superior to the cruddy SSD with a read/write lifespan 💪

[full fossil]

Lmao it’s funny

[misty scarab]

my laptop costed 150 usd it has
Core i5 6300U
16GB RAM
512gb SSD
Ethernet Port, SD Card Reader, USB Type C, 2x Super Speed USB, Thunderbolt, lenovo nub

[tardy terrace]

then why am i crying

[crude jasper]

150 usd for 16gb is a steal

run some good modded minecraft on that son of a bitch

[misty scarab]

Lenovo Thinkpad

[misty scarab]

it has a 6300u tho and an igpu, not a gaming laptop

[crude jasper]

it'll run modded minecraft

[misty scarab]

if i wanted to run modded mc id play on my desktop with a 5800x3d and 64gb ram

[full fossil]

My 2 year old laptop @misty scarab Ryzen 9 5900HS, rtx 3060. Bought it for $1400 2 years ago

Still looks new imo. I take care of my sh

[misty scarab]

my thinkpad still looks brand new

and its old enough to have a 6300u

[full fossil]

Im thinking of selling my laptop. I took care of this like a baby. Whoever gets to buy this is lucky

[misty scarab]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/678435194155565077/1105173510227239053/20230508_104118.jpg?width=582&height=558

clean

[mint yacht]

Reminds me of my old Asus A8Js
Which unfortunately I got rid of a long time ago

Still got its GPU though, I ain't gonna get rid of it lol

[wind pulsar]

You certainly see the grease and wear on the keys, but otherwise that looks pretty much new, yeah

[full fossil]

Would probably wipe off too. I use this everyday. Im gonna sell this soon. Might get a mac for the first time in my life

[misty scarab]

why why why why

[full fossil]

I have zero experience with a mac. I have an iphone and apple watch tho

[crude jasper]

im not sure how the hell you can see that

[wind pulsar]

You can see the shimmer, those keys were more or less matte before

[misty scarab]

I hate MacOS with a burning passion, having tried it before too

I also used to own an iPhone, Apple Watch, and Airpods Pro, got rid of all 3, I dislike iOS a lot

[full fossil]

Maybe he zoomed in

[misty scarab]

I switched my iPhone out for a Galaxy, Apple Watch for a Galaxy Watch, and Airpods Pro for Galaxy Buds Pro

[crude jasper]

looks like something i could fix by making all the keys look like shit

[misty scarab]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/678435194155565077/1105174050659115109/20230501_130810.jpg?width=745&height=558

Another view of my thinkpad

[crude jasper]

perfect

[tardy terrace]

♥

[chrome vector]

but... why the watches?

[misty scarab]

wym

[chrome vector]

why use smart watches?

[misty scarab]

why not use smart watches?

[full fossil]

Hi

[chrome vector]

I just don't get them... They don't seem that great a value for the price, unless they've changed significantly.

[misty scarab]

what dont you get about them

[full fossil]

It’s literally a second phone

[crude jasper]

who buys airpod pros man

[misty scarab]

I did

i got them for the ANC